Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "An Attack On Leos" (w/ Matt, Bowen & Friends)

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Just a snapchat of life from a Sprite and Diet Coke house in the Fire Island Pines! And this one has special guest appearances by Josh, Aaron and Whit! Matt and Bow discuss creating a body by god with glute bridges, share their roses and thorns of summer and give a rave review of Sabrina Carpenter's Short N' Sweet. Also, a takedown of male celebrity Leos, Blake Lively's approach in interviews and Chappell Roan firmly stating her boundaries. Leave Jen and Camila alone, Affleck and Mendes! And hey, Oasis, give it a rest! The Iconic 400 is on the way! GROWL!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Tell them what you're doing.

Tell them about what you're in process on right now. I am chopping up some shallots and garlic for a make-ahead sauce later. Now, can I ask you a question? Please. Is this an Alison Roman recipe? We have been enjoying tomato season.

With the end of tomato season with Alison Roman, which is not your favorite food, but one of your favorite girls. Oh, no. Let me tell you something. Tomato sauce? Concentrated tomato flavor. Any concentrated tomato flavor I'm into, it's just tomatoes itself.

And do people agree with me out there in the community? It's a wet vegetable. You don't like the wetness of tomato. I think it is the texture that I don't like. Is this a point of contention for us, or do you just fully embrace it? I embrace. I just think that you have to love the whole thing. It's not.

I don't have to do anything. Okay. Okay. Okay. I just, I'm trying to manage a house here. We're on Fire Island. You kind of are the mom of the house. It's okay.

I love to be that. Yeah. And this, this trip, especially I've, I've been very domestic and I've been, been very administrative.

Not very, but I've been like, hold on, touch more. Oh, hold on. We have someone's coming in for taking a break

from his glute bridges. If you, if you think that we can't speak into the mic or we're going to get in trouble. This is Aaron Jackson, everybody. We're here on recording live

from the Fire Island Pines. This is live. This is live. Aaron Jackson. Wow. Live from the Pines. This is live. This is live. Air Jackson. Wow. Live from the pines. What thoughts on culture do you have outside of the culture of glute bridges? I was doing glute bridges because I haven't moved my body in six or seven days.

And what thoughts do I have on culture? Fat asses are important. Yeah. Who is the fattest ass in media? Just kidding. You don't have to say that. No, we have to know this. The fattest ass?

Oh, probably MTS. Megan Thee. MTS has the fattest ass. Megan Thee Stallion. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That is body by God. Wouldn't you say? I would say.

Front runner for title event. Body by God. I mean, we are here in the pines, so we're seeing a lot of Body by God. Yes. Each one to each one. Each one to each one. Well, right now we have a gorgeous view. You sort of went over there so we could see each other, but you don't know. I actually got to take a picture. Oh, I've enjoyed this room all week.

You want to take a picture? Oh my God, wait, hold on. There's another special guest coming in hot. He wasn't doing Gloop Bridges outside, but it's Josh Shrive, everybody. I'm listening to the album Is This It by The Strokes outside. And Bowen, you do not talk about The Strokes enough the album Is This It by The Strokes outside. And Bowen, you do not talk about The Strokes enough. I don't talk about The Strokes enough. You and your listeners need to put

respect on The Strokes. It's anti-man the way you behave. I don't talk about Is This It by The Strokes, but I do talk about This Is It by Michael Jackson, who is the strokes of his day. To quote Charlene, all is forgiven, Michael. All is forgiven. Is that a Charlene quote? Charlene Incarnate publicly has forgiven Michael Jackson.

Can we say this has been such a Diet Coke house? And Sprite! Oh my God. It's Sprite night. It's Six Flags over Pine. It's Sprite night. Oh, they should make a Six Flags here. That would be good.

That would be good. What rides? Well, let's not be too ambitious we can't have a big coaster on the island I think one of them should be called thank you for that dose of reality I just want to bring us back here because it feels like it's getting out of control I think one of them should be called the Daniel Nardicchio

Patti LuPone rider adventure he has to get he has to get all the items for Patti LuPone's rider. Oh my God, that's amazing. You know, that's like actually the plot of Princess Tati's Bayou Dip. It's like, we have to get all the musicians to play a big show.

It's like, okay, cool. This is a theme park ride, right? We're supposed to feel some danger. Ooh, I have one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hedda Hunt. And you're a rotten kid and Hedda Lettuce is hunting you.

Oh my God. With a gun?is is hunting you. Oh my God. With a gun? With her barbs. Oh my God. Which are just as lethal. Deadlier than any. I really don't like this one now that guns came into it. I'm sorry.

We're sorry. But there's danger. There certainly is. What are you guys all packing up to do? Are you guys going to go somewhere? I'm actually just getting some ham and cheese and then I'm going to go back outside. It's been a Diet Coke house and Josh has been very sort of, I would say,

Italian in his way. He's wrapped meat and cheese. Okay, good. Is that Italian? Yes. French? You need a house mother to make sauce and you need a house daddy to wrap up meats.

And I'm going to Pine Pantry to eat the sandwich. Okay, great. Bye, boys. This has been an amazing Snapchat. Snapchat. Okay, great. Bye, boys. This has been an amazing Snapchat. Snapchat. It's back. Snapchat is back

and that's exactly what this is. This episode is just a Snapchat of what it's like to live in the pines. Can we do a terminology swap?

Yeah. Because podcast doesn't really, it's not a great word, right? Podcast is over, you think, as a word? Of course, it's not a great word, right? Podcast is over, you think, as a word? Of course, we have to tie the word to the concept.

The concept of podcast is eternal. Can I be honest with you? What's a better name for podcast? Snapchat. That's what I was just going to say. This is why I'm like, can podcast now be called Snapchats? I think from now on, yeah. I think that the fact is, if anyone was going to be able to sort of swing their big, fat, thick, juicy podcast dicks and make this a real thing, it's us.

It's us. Can we just say our dicks have never been bigger? My dick is not a drop of saline. I'm huge. I'm ready to swing it like Hank Aaron. Who's that? Famous baseball player. Oh.

Let's try another one. I'm ready to swing it like Barry Bonds. You know that? Famous baseball player. Oh. Let's try another one. I'm ready to swing it like Barry Bonds. You know that. I don't. You don't know Barry Bonds? Who is that? He's actually the all-time home run leader, and he was a famous San Francisco Giant.

And do these men have huge dicks or big bats? I mean, they were just amazing hitters known for hitting home runs, which is the analogy that I'm making. What about this one? I'll start a little bit easier, and then we'll get to the really good easy one. Sammy Sosa.

I do know Sammy Sosa. Baseball has been very, very good to me. You... I was love bombed by an ex-baseball player once. Holy fucking shit. Tell this entire story. No, it's not. I'm not telling this entire story.

You were loved by a former baseball player? He came to the Siri house actually. Oh, actually I remember him. But he's a former college, I think he was like, I forget what division, but he was a baseball boy while he was in the closet. And you go back and look at his old baseball pictures and you're like, oh.

One thing we share is we both saw each other's love bombers coming from a mile away, but didn't see it ourselves. What does that say about us? Blinded by love. Blinded by love, title of app. Blinded by love, but I'm saying the friendships, like accountability check. If this ever, if we ever get

love bombed again. Oh no, I'm, first of all, you know I was on the front lines being like, hey, no. No, I know. Although he did charm me like that. For a second. For a second. But this man took me by my arm and took me for a turn about the room like I was Elizabeth Bennett. Like I was Elizabeth.

Like you were Charlotte. Yeah, it was Elizabeth. And then it's Charlotte. What's her face in the book? Anyway. Aaron's leaving. Bye. Is it that you really want to get to the sandwiches or is it that you're just over us?

I've never been over you. And I never will be. You know, before he said. Have you heard of Julius Dazzle yet? We will talk about Julius Dazzle. Don't you worry. Have you reviewed Julia's Dazzle yet? We will talk about Julia's Dazzle. Don't you worry. Let's chat about Julia's Dazzle here. Can I?

And remember, I've been wanting content with Julia's Dazzle. So maybe this is where it starts. So Matt came a few days after the rest of us, but we discovered this bottle of rosé in the fridge. One of the most gorgeous form factors in all of glassmaking, glassblowing history. I can't believe this. Everyone Google Julia's dazzle.

Julia apostrophe S dazzle, the word dazzle. And you will come across the most. There must be some golden ratio thing going on here. It's just so pretty. You know, it's not just us. I posted this to stories. Miss Ago King Wotum herself goes, that is a gorgeous bottle. I said, yes. It's really just us. I posted this to stories. Miss Ago King Wotum herself goes, that is a gorgeous bottle.

I said, yes. It's really getting around. Can I say something? And this is going to really hurt some people's feelings. Lisa Vanderpump could never. Any like- We add much love to Lisa. We love LVP.

No, but like there's something about this bottle of Julius Dazzle Rosé, 2020 we should say. It's not a bad wine. This is the part where you hold up the bottle of wine and you say, great year. But here's the thing about 2020. I'm never holding anything up with the year 2020 on it and saying great year. 2020 can't

have that. This is the only good thing to come out of that year. It's a rule of culture number eight. 2020 was not a great year. No, no, Matt, come in. Matt! Matt! Too late. Come in. Come in. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

I guess this would be your podcast debut. Is this Whitaker's podcast debut? Do you want to say hello to everybody? I think the only other time I've a little bit appeared on the podcast. Was also when I was coming back from a pantry run. Beautiful. And that's how you prefer it. You prefer the space.

What are you looking at? What are you looking at over there? I can't see your computer. New York Times Wirecutter sent Grilling Challenge Week 4. Well, we're letting everyone know about Julius Dazzle, and we're letting everyone know about the beauty of Julius Dazzle, and we actually just said this

is a 2020 wine, and it may be the only good thing to come out of 2020 because you know how you're supposed to hold up a wine bottle and say great year? So hard to do with 2020. Hard to do. Hard to do with 1968. Oh my do. Hard to do with 1968. Oh my gosh, to say nothing of 1969. The moon

landing was big. I guess that was a pretty good year. I don't think any of the 19... He'll be in and out, everyone. Whitaker's going to be in and out. You know, Whitaker is in the next room, but I would say he is one of the kings. Well, you know, he actually made it onto

my Instagram story yesterday. And it was a little bit objectifying. People always get thrilled when they go, who is that man? And I say, don't even bother. Yeah, don't even bother. He's wifed up, honey.

Honey. Well, let's talk about the big... Wait, can you get me a Diet Coke? No, there's Diet Cokes behind you. Oh, never mind, honey. There's Diet Cokes behind me. Don't worry, don't worry, don't worry. Thank you, though.

I know you would have done it. So it's been a Diet Coke household. It's been a Sprite household. Now, I always say... I'm good. I always say that Sprite, what people think ginger ale does to your stomach on planes or, you know, on the ground,

they're actually thinking about Sprite. It's the same thing that when people are like, I love, I want to read a Joan Didion book that I haven't read before. I go, no, you're actually thinking of an Eve Babbitt's book that you've never read before or that you've already read. Open it. Oh my God. Not a better sound in the world. It is the most satisfying thing I've ever heard. It's literally more satisfying than when you're with a man and he goes, I'm coming. Yeah, I don't care for that. I don't care about that at all. I don't care if you come.

I don't care if you come. Can I say it's really close to number 30? I don't care if you come. But that's actually quite refreshing. De-center the orgasm. You always are saying this. Have we not, as sexual beings, been on either side of the like, well, it's okay. You know, like, I don't need it to happen. I don well, it's okay. I don't need

anything from anyone. I don't need anything from anyone and no one should need anything from me except my positive vibes. I wanted to ask you this. How many times have you come in this house on this trip? That's too personal. Is it? Do you want me to answer? Bowen, let's think about this. Did I ask

the question? Do I ask questions that I don't want answers to? Don't talk down to me. I've come twice. Before I got here. Before you got here. I was like, I have the room to myself. I was thinking that.

How many times have you? Have I been away from the room? Or have you come in another room? Can I be honest? Please. I went into the bathroom this morning and I shot. I came. You shot.

I, you shot. You, you, you, you, you came. I almost said shot a load. It just felt too much. Sorry. You guys know what happens to us when we get into Fire Island. We get a little bit loose. A little loose.

And before you levy accusations of us being dua and always on vacation, this is the last vacation. This is the last vacation. But we've also had a lot, we've had work travel. And it's been, I would say it's been a fruitful summer. Should we reflect on summer? Is this that episode? Well, you're literally rolling your eyes with every

single word, so I don't know, should we? It's an important thing that we should all do. We should all reflect on this season. Okay, let's reflect. Highs, lows, roses, and thorns of the summer. Rose, bouquet was Culture Awards. And

was being in Vancouver for June. I really loved that experience. I was just reconnecting Culture Awards. And was being in Vancouver for June. I really loved that experience. I was just reconnecting with Andrew. And roses as well. Spending time with my friends. Spending time at home. I did not really... Because of the strikes last year, it felt like the summer wasn't really real.

We were all just so stressed and the vibe was just bad. It was very stressful. I did not feel a sense of like relief or like respite, even though the strikes were happening and like we're all just sitting at home. Agreed. It did not feel good, but this year felt nice. What about you?

Thorne, I'll get to later. I'm going to say my roses are so plentiful. I would say my rose, oh good. We're doing roses and thorns of summer. So think about that right well right now i'm going but wait let me come on the track mad as hell now that i've finished the album is this it by the strokes i want to say it's the original short and sweet oh well don't worry we'll get to short get to your army of quite frankly millennial gay men need to understand this and you need to

have julian casablanca on the pod yeah you're anti-man. The way he said, quite frankly, millennial gay men, it was truly a way to drag us. The way he said Julian Casablancas also made me feel like he likes him more than us. How many times have you come in this house this week? We've been asking people. Great question. Keep in mind, he and Aaron have been sharing a bed the entire time.

One. One. Okay. One in the bathroom. Oh my God, one in the bathroom, yeah. One in the bathroom Okay. One in the bathroom. Yeah. Oh my God, one in the bathroom, yeah. One in the bathroom. And two in the pink. Wait, so should I say my rose of summer? Yes, please, please. I think my roses of summer, honestly,

were on that same trip. Seeing Taylor in Amsterdam was a rose when we were all together. Oh yeah, that was a huge thorn. And also, specifically swimming in the sea in Sicily was such a rose, even though I famously got stung by a jellyfish there, which I'll just transition into my rose. I mean, my thorn. I think my thorn was pretty much everything that happened that day after I got stung by

the jellyfish. That was a rough day. It was not good emotionally, physically, spiritually. I'm sure financially. You got to swim in the Ionian Sea, which is magical. But then... The clown came back to bite. The clown came...

Because you did clownery. But you didn't do clownery. I actually was doing no clownery. And I had... Other people were doing clownery. But sometimes when other people do clownery, the clown bites you for some reason. I know.

I know. That's what I don't like about the clownery. Oh, trust me. There's been so many times in my life where I was doing no clownery, the clown bites you for some reason. I know. I know. That's what I don't like about the clownery. Oh, trust me. There's been so many times in my life where I was doing no clownery, nothing of the sort, and the clown just came out of nowhere, bit me, and then got away with it. Okay? I'm sorry. Gotta float away from this. Gotta float away. Do you have any

roses and thorns of summer that you want to share? It's Josh Sharp, everybody. It's Josh Sharp. Oh my god. Roses and thorns. This week has been all roses. This week is all roses. This has been a fabulous week. Gaia Gabe, Julia Stasling. What's my rose?

Actually, Graham Avenue Quinceañera was one of my roses. Josh Sharp. One of the events of the season. Graham Avenue Quinceañera. A couple weeks ago, it was my 15-year anniversary of moving to New York City. And I've only lived off the same subway stop. Graham Avenue. Congratulations, Quinceañera? A couple weeks ago, it was my 15-year anniversary of moving to New York City. And I've only lived off the same subway stop.

Graham Avenue. Congratulations, Quince. We have to have a Graham Avenue Quinceañera. So we bopped around a bunch of spots. And then can you tell everybody what the game was?

Like everyone, everyone who arrived. Oh, everyone was assigned famous Williamsburg celebrities. And they had to wear their headshot and their description that Josh had written

for them on their chest. Who are the famous celebrities that were? People like Joy Behar, Bo and Yang. Is she a famous Williamsburg celebrity? She's a headlifter in Williamsburg. She was born there. Joy Behar, me. It informs a lot of her work. You, Julio. Julio.

A lot of mob people, I found. A lot of mob people. I think like some painter. I was a painter. I was someone. That was a rose. That was a rose. I don't have a thorn off the top of my head. Yeah, that's good. You've had a nice summer. I've had a nice summer. Yeah, okay, good.

I'm happy that you had no thorns. That fucking rocks. I'm sure there is one, but I don't have it right now. I don't live in thorns. Okay. Yeah. You live in the light. I live in the light of Christ. I'm about to shower. Do not describe the way my naked body looks to your listeners. Okay. Alright, I won't to shower. Do not describe the way my naked body looks to your listeners. Okay. All right, I won't do it.

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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.

Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.

Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Should we get into short and sweet? To have Josh Sharp transition us to short and sweet is so remarkable. Really major. I don't know what this was.

Producer Josh. I mean, he was out there listening to The Strokes and then he said it was the original short and sweet. We've had sort of a heterosexual cis male energy as well because before you got here, it was the 30th anniversary of Grace by Jeff Buckley and we listened to that the whole way through. Actually delightful poolside. Sure. Shut up.

No, I'm not going to shut up. Fuck you, bitch. Fuck you back. Let me be a straight guy for once. Okay, I'd love to see you try. Go ahead. No, I'm not an affect. And then we watched 20 minutes of Conor O'Malley content today. We watched his new short film, Corys, which you should all check out.

It's insane. Starring friend of the pod, legend of the pod. Annie Donnelly. The one, the only. Put some respect. Put some respect on Annie Donnelly's name. Immediately.

Did she win Kulture? No, Pat Regan won Kulture. She did not win. But she spiritually won Kulture. She spiritually won Kulture. If you were at Kulture years ago, you are a winner. Pat Regan won culture. She did not win. But she spiritually won culture. She spiritually won culture. If you were at culture years ago, you are a winner.

If you were at culture at villain, I want to say like 2017, 2018. It had to be 2018. Yeah, something like that. Reach out and you will win a special prize, which is us telling you that we love you. If you were at Villain and you reach out to us and you let us know, we will list your name at the end credits of next episode.

We will visually list your name in the next episode. We'll read the names. We will read the names. We're in dispute on what's going to happen. Let's talk about the album of the year. We really are ultimately such gay guys. Because you know what I realized?

This is going to be the, I think, fifth time I get on this podcast and you're no better. No. And basically say, this is the Album of the Year because I genuinely believe it. Well, so far,

what have we said this about? We've said this about... Eternal Sunshine. Eternal Sunshine. Cowboy Carter. Billy. Hit Me Hard and Soft. Hit Me Hard and Soft.

I'm sure at some point we said it about Chapel Rowan. In fact, we called it the album of the year. We actually won album of the year two years in a row. And so now we're saying it again, so five. But there was one before that, I want to say. We never said Tortured Poets was the album of the year. No.

We just said we love Tortured Poets. But, and Brat, of course. Oh, Jesus, Brat. And then Duo, we said it was up there. Yes. And I think Short and Sweet is, pound for pound, my favorite album. It is so good. It is so good. And I know that no one can argue. From the first seconds to the last seconds, brand new, clever, funny, point of view, underrated vocalist. Oh, yeah. Try and do one of these riffs.

I'm with it the whole time. I'm never bored on this album. Not a second. Not that I was born on the others, but there's just something so... She really lightly tugs at your attention for the 36 minutes, short and sweet. Yeah. And we're saying thematically, obviously, too.

The title is... It touches on this general thread of like a short ephemeral relationship that sticks with you. Yeah. She said like, it's about how the short relationships are ultimately the ones that fuck you up the hardest, which-

Don't we know. Can confirm. Honestly, like, yeah. And I think that I thought it was just like a cute little title based on her own stature, her own very demure- Five heaps, to be exact. Very demure, very title based on her own stature her own very demure exact very demure very mindful very considerate stature check that out on tiktok if you open tiktok you're gonna get

a very demure result if you know you know um but yeah no and then to hear about that it's about like the brevity of relationships and how frustrating that can be when you allow yourself to really uh commit to that emotionally. I absolutely loved it. What's your top track? And it's okay to say the basic thing. I think, and I'm not even worried about that. What I've been doing lately, and keep in mind, this album has only been out for four days as of this recording.

Wow, that feels crazy. It feels like it's been with us eternally. Matt Whitaker said this. But I have been doing the thing of keeping the album on repeat, of course, but doing Don't Smile into Taste. I see. Because Don't Smile is actually a phenomenal closer. I love it.

Just go and listen to that song. It's literally a perfect throwback. We were saying the other day that Taste was giving a little bit of Shania Twain and I mentioned the divinals. I touched myself. And I gasped when you told me this. Yeah, shout out to Talia Crane, who I was having the conversation with Talia about. And she pointed that out. I was like, oh my god, that is it. When I think about

you, you'll just have to tease me. Yeah, it's living in the same world. So when you do that sometimes, I feel like it's a little bit of a not just not to so when you do that sometimes I feel like it's a little bit of a levy of a rip it's not a read

I'm not saying you're reading but I'm just saying it's just that like pop songwriting like tends to like yeah sure overlap with other

pop songs yeah and I think it's great what I'm saying is the divinal should sue this woman based on what Bowen Yang just did

no I'm just kidding but yeah no Taste is insane. It is an insane song. And what I was saying is it's a perfect throwback, pretty much song to song of the late 90s for me. Like it's giving you a little bit of late 90s Shania. It's certainly giving you like-

Are you talking about that song specifically? Yeah, it's also giving you like throwback to like country moment. I was saying remarkably coincidence is Ladies of the Canyon, Topanga, Joni Mitchell. Classic sounding.

Yeah. Tagging myself, Coincidence. Coincidence. Tagging myself, Coincidence. Whitaker tagged in and said Coincidence

is his favorite. That doesn't surprise me at all. Breezy, beautiful, Laurel Canyon. And about Sean and Camila, which is one of your top issues. Well,

Matt Whitaker, he actually is running and he's writing on getting Sean and Camila back together for once and for all. You'll be hearing about it on the revival album, Tall and Testy. Tall and Testy! Really good. Testy's. Damn. Well, I think there's not much else to say is there what I'm kidding this is a podcast about

pop culture I'm trying to transition out of our little guest drop-ins okay nothing more to say from him well yeah so I love taste absolutely think please please please an espresso sing on the album they sound great and I think my favorite song is sharpest tool yeah

that tracks. Now, come on. Josh, you can always contribute. I would say, ultimately, Someday is a banger. Last Night, I know, is the single, but it still holds up. You're a loser. You're a big loser. What Julian does with his vocal stylings on the original Short and Sweet is this it. You know what's crazy?

Created in these sleeves. Which songs are about Shawn Mendes? Yeah, and which ones are about Shawn and Camila? Barely legal. Oh, God. Oh, God. Barely legal. It's crazy the sort of sexual power

that Shawn Mendes has over these women. Ironic, in a way. No? Well, okay, so Shawn Mendes also has a new song, a new album out. And I was watching the video and it actively made me mad. And what about it?

It's like him being shirtless and playing his guitar in the woods and being like, and I'm just like, God, you really are just like, I don't know. I don't trust him. You can move to the woods

and be shirtless and play the guitar and put on an album. The thing that pushes it over the edge for me is like, and this is not saying that like religion is bad. It's just that like, you can't find God. It's too much going on at once. You got to like give it to us in little pieces. Do the Christianity album later.

Here's what I'd say. I agree with you 100%. Sean, leave these girls alone. Like just leave these girls alone. Like, just leave these girls alone. Like, if... Just please. Hey, men. Leave people alone.

If you know you're a fucking loser, just leave them alone. Like, if you know you're going to bail on them later, like, if you know you're going to be too sensitive for life later, just leave people alone. Just go be annoying yourself. Go to the woods yourself without the cameras.

He annoys me, man. You said something that really resonated with me the other day. You're like, I'm finding my husband. I'm finding my husband. I think I'm in husband mode too now. Officially, I'm in husband mode. I'm not literally no longer fucking around. Well, because if it's not your husband, then it's

16 million Shawn Mendeses who are like giving you the fuckboy energy, bring the cameras out to the woods to film me shirtless playing guitar. And then, oh no, I have to totally bail on you. It's like, guys, get it fucking together. I'm not saying that like I don't have empathy for people, but I'm just saying stop stringing these girls along. Stop stringing these people along. Govern your ass. You just want attention.

Govern your ass and your emotion. You know who you are. Just relax. Stop with the attention seeking. Period. Is what I'm saying cogent? Absolutely. Or am I on Fire Island cracked?

No, I think maybe it's a mix of both. Matt Rogers does what? I was just going to say, you know who made me think about this? Ben Affleck. Leave her alone. Leave her alone. I can't stand him

I know I know poor Jen so all she did was like be a lunatic spend 30 million dollars on a movie about this love listen to me

she is a lunatic but guess what but she's not harmful to society no she's a lunatic who is obsessed with love and a love addict and a romance addict

and like you know all those different things and he just keeps coming back because he can't get his shit together. And Shawn Mendes, if you're not careful, that's going to be you in 20 years. I'm just saying,

is that a read on Ben Affleck's age? It's just these guys who like can't help, but string these girls along. These, these emotional artistic girls who buy into it and believe it when people come to them and say, I'm giving you everything. And then they take it all away.

These guys are jerks. And they're gay too. And they're running around here. Oh, no. And you know them. You might be them. Turn it off. Turn it off.

If this is you, turn this off. If you're this guy, turn this podcast off right now. This is for water signs. I think there's some water sign fuckboys. Let me look up their signs. Ben Affleck, astrologicals. I think there's some water sign fuckboys. Let me look up their signs. Ben Affleck, astrologicals. I'm sorry, Sabrina. This was supposed to be about you today. But what happened was you got

fucked up by Shawn Mendes, and now we're talking about this type of guy. So think about that. We need to bring Channing Nicholas on the podcast. Oh, he's a Leo, Ben Affleck. Color me unsurprised. Oh my God. Now what is Shawn Mendes? He is. It's already a thing. Leo, son. Oh my God. Two Leos. They're both Leos. This is so fucking funny. This is crazy.

How do you feel? We're in Virgo season now. How do you feel about Virgo season? What I feel about Virgo season is I'm going to say my famous line. I'm supposed to marry one of you. And let me tell you something. I know Virgos love to be right. If you have an instinct about me, you are right. Come get it. I'm ready. Wow. Oh, so this is really good. This is a really good way to draw them in. It's for you to be like,

you want to be yourself, your Virgo self? Come find me so you can be type A about my ass. Listen to me. Just be nice. Just be nice and supportive. You can be right all the time. Who is Scorpio romantically compatible with?

It's just so funny that Shawn Mendes and Ben Affleck are both Leos, and those are the examples I was using, because they can't fucking help it. They can't fucking help driving these women crazy. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Earth signs.

Send a soft hay. Like Sabrina says in the song, you send a soft hay on a Tuesday. I hate the soft hey yeah just like hey like I'm back get out of here what I hate hey get into it launch into your you Bowen Yang has

expressed this before he hates to just be texted one word like hey like hey you want to know what the reason is why are you wasting time hi hi the only thing the eyes the other person can say back is hi and hey. Like, hey. You want to know what the reason is. Why are you wasting time? Hi. Hi. The only thing the eyes of the other person can say back is hi, and we're wasting time here.

Hi. Hey. I think I always text you with a purpose. Oh, no, actually, but I don't have to. You do. You don't have to, and I don't mind it from you. I would never just say hey to you, though. I would say, like, hey, girl, or hey, queen. Sometimes at work, though, I'll get a text and it'll be I would say like hey girl or hey queen sometimes at work though I'll get a text and it'll be like

someone being like hey I'll be like what like this show's on Saturday like tell me yeah what do you need from me what's up I'll be there I'm not difficult I promise anyway I feel like I identify with not being difficult to such an extent that that must mean that I am.

Can I be really honest with you? Yes, please. I wouldn't describe you as the least difficult person. I'm not the least. I'm a little bit difficult. I think you can be difficult, but I wouldn't describe you as difficult. But I would say you have the aptitude for being difficult. And I would say, flatteringly, the same to you.

Yeah. The same about you. When do you consider me to be the most difficult? I honestly don't know what the context would be. I think you, when you know something, you are very good at conceptualizing what you need and you communicate that. And when it's not given to you,

then you will vocalize that in a way that I find so respectful. I understand that. What about me? What about me? Difficult. Maybe sometimes communication. Maybe sometimes like getting responses from you or locking you down. I'm very bad at text.

It's not. And see, that's not difficulty. Although maybe it is. Sure. It registers as difficulty to the other person. I'm just. Something happened in the last three, four years. I got so bad at emails.

I got so bad at texts. I am not chiming into the group chat as much as I would like to. Yeah, something happened. I never feel like I can't get a hold of you, though. So maybe that's... I wouldn't say it's an issue. I would say the both of us are not issues.

Not us water signs. We're not these Leos. Not these famous Leos out here like absolutely running the show. If you're a Leo listening to this, congrats. Congrats on the scorched earth that you will lay in your wake for the rest of your lives

unless you self-examine. See, this is so funny. Shawn Mendes was born on, and we didn't mean this to be a Shawn Mendes drag fest, but the fact is, it is what it is. He was born on August 8th, 1998. He's a fiery Leo sun with a rebellious Aquarius moon. This is

literally the biggest red flag ever. This opposition reveals that our man was born on a full moon and wants the lion's share of attention and affection. He will suck you dry. He will suck you dry. And that's what's happening here with Camila and Sabrina. By the way,

CXOXO and Short and Sweet, both, a lot of them are about Shawn Mendes. And that feels like, girls, we can do better. Ladies, let's get our short asses up and out there in the world where there's billions of other

men. Many of them aren't even Leos. I have to say, it's helpful to be in a place like Fire Island as a gay man and be like, wow, there are just so many. And then that's both like reassuring and also like neutralizing. And you can sort of come at it

in a Rorschach test way of like, this can be whatever I want it to be. And I don't know why I'm relating this back to Shawn Mendes. We were, funnily enough, the day that the It's Giving Share moment happened, we were shooting, it was our wrap day shooting at the Ice Palace,

the underwear party scene. Well, what else? What else? Oh, I guess there's the rest of this album. I mean, so Sharpest Tool is my favorite song. Okay. Love it. It is also about that thing of someone giving you so much and, like, then taking it away. What else do I love?

Oh, Bed Chem. Just fun. Bed Chem is fun. When you know you're going to absolutely have a lot of fun jumping somebody's bones. Like, all the musical influences are very clearly drawn and delineated or whatever, but like she just makes it her own.

Okay. So between taste and then good graces to me is, is giving like, I think it's giving my 90s, like, yep. That's exactly right. R&B dance,

like R&B and dance, like beats. Bedcam is very like, has like the Luther Vandross guitar, I would say. Anyway, just excellent all the way. Mariah Carey would smile down on this album.

Smile down? I just mean from- No, I know that. I mean- That also feels like a joke. I wasn't making a joke. You weren't making a joke. I just meant that she would smile on this album.

Like she is smiling on this album. I don't know why I did that. I think it's just, I hold her in high regard. Of course, no, no, no. I'm obviously thinking about Mariah right now because her mother and sister both passed last weekend. Very sad.

If you read her book, you know, those were tough relationships. And sometimes those are the ones that are the most difficult to lose. So I really hope she's okay. And I did not mean to make light of that. Neither did I. What I was trying to say was that Mariah would be, is so proud of this album just because of not only like the wordplay it reminds me of like the lyrics that Mariah would write

when she started to have a lot of fun I misadvert Mariah but yes what do you mean? just like when she kind of like broke out of her like Tommy Mottola moment like we'll call the earlier years of her career the Afanasiev years Walter Afanasiev

was her big producer and then when she stopped working with him like and she was having more fun with like her R&B sound and getting a little bit more like you know goofy and silly in her lyrics and stuff it just this album reminds me of that like this it feels like you're getting to know someone better when you listen to this album and she's obviously been around for a while Sabrina andpresso, and she's got a pretty well-defined public persona at this point. Even in the six, seven months, she's been like very famous.

But prior to that, she was kind of known as just the other woman in this Olivia Rodrigo situation who apparently that kid also is of this, you know, Shawn Mendes, Ben Affleck persuasion of, can you please leave these people alone? Yeah, and then later on, like, I'm queer. And then he came out.

Yeah. Yeah. It's a very Leo thing to do. Anytime, anytime, anytime anyone comes out of the closet in any fashion, it's Leo behavior. We're not saying we hate Leos.

We're saying that the worst version of Leos is someone to avoid. And you know, it's true. And the Leos out there listening and the Aquarius is no two, especially you Aquarius men, which is why when I look down here. And the Aquarius is no two, especially you Aquarius men. Which is why when I look down here and I see Shawn Mendes as a Leo with an Aquarius moon. The Aquarius moon thing is what

kind of like messes up the signal a little bit for Shawn. It's like he wants to be an Aquarius so badly and he thinks that being an Aquarius, that he thinks that the internal Aquarius life is to be shirtless and play the guitar in the woods. But it's like an Aquarian would never do that. By the way,

I just want to say something about Camila. She's a Pisces. So this is why you love CXOXO. See, this is why I need to speak to her is because I'm like, listen to me. He will never stop because he knows he can get it from you every single time. So you have to be,

you have to say CXOXO to this relationship, queen. Okay, so let's just lay this out. Between Pisces, Scorpio, and Cancer, between the water signs, Pisces, y'all are the most vulnerable. And, because Cancer and Scorpio, we got our exoskeletons,

we got our hard exteriors. Yeah, not me. A Cancer, I will always love a Cancer. A Cancer is just pure light, pure joy, pure sweetness, is kind of walking along the beach, being cute. Very that. Scorpio, we are scary, and we can sting you and kill you. You're the crab on the beach.

No, the crab on the beach is Cancer. What? So what do you mean? You're the scorpion on the beach. We're the scorpion on the boulder. Holy shit. So you've come into our domain. A Leo, a lion could crush me, but I, with my stinger,

could kill you. Yeah. Even though I am also sensitive. Crab could bite. Scorpion's going to sting. Crab can pinch. Crab can hold your hand, though. Isn't that sweet? But a scorpion,

a scorpion is vulnerable to sting. Crab can pinch. Crab can hold your hand, though. Isn't that sweet? But a scorpion, a scorpion is vulnerable, is delicate, can be easily broken in half, but can sting and kill you. Wait, what's your astrological sign, Josh? I'm an Aquarius. Get out of here. No, we love...

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Because being on a vacation with you and Jared and Patrick is a very housewives rich experience, which I love. This is also a nice reset to be like, oh, that's right. Here to play like the strokes. Did you just spray me with water? I didn't mean to. I was filling up the ice.

We're more of a Jiminy Glick house. This is a Jiminy Glick house. This is a Jiminy Glick house, and we told the RPKFs, we watched Conor O'Malley, and we loved the rubber. Yeah, we did a lot of boy stuff. What movie are we going to watch tonight? Before I got here,

you guys watched Alien. We watched Alien, which is not a, that's not a bro-y movie. That's a pretty gay movie. I mean, yeah, I guess, but I'm just saying like- All the men die first.

Energetically though, like, you know, it's a rough and tumble movie. I mean, yeah, I guess, but I'm just saying like... All the men die first. Energetically, though, like, you know, it's a rough and tumble movie. Sure. And then we are going to watch Step Brothers tonight, which is probably one of the bro-iest comedies, but you don't want to watch Step Brothers? Aaron's never seen it. Aaron's never seen Step Brothers? And it's

so like Dix the Musical. It's so like... Zoolander was the other thing. See, I mean, my opinion would be I'd rather watch Zoolander. And I say that as a proud member of the Big Money Players Network. Double Feet Shaw. Double Feet Shaw. So long.

Not that long. Big Money, Step Brothers. He's in that one too. Both Will Ferrell films. I want to watch Zoolander. We've also been extolling Nathan Lee Graham. Yeah. Because...

My mistake. Your mistake indeed. My Graham. Yeah. Because... My mistake. Your mistake indeed. My mistake, but we were... I went out with Aaron and Josh last weekend and we smoked a little bit of weed

and... You're kidding. I know, but then Aaron was reminding me of... Because we went to go see Titanic with Nathan Lee Graham as Ruth. Oh,

as Rose's mother. And you never saw Nathan as... No, I never saw Nathan Lee Graham. Also, the great Ruths have... Ruth is always my favorite part of the show. Yeah, it's amazing. Incredible. The hardest I've ever laughed.

the... But Nathan Lee Graham has a moment where he just goes... Ruth breaks down. He just goes, I'm black! I'm black. I'm black. And it's, everyone's crying in the audience because it's Nathan Lee Graham

screaming at the top of his lungs, wearing like a little pussy bow top blouse, screaming, I'm black. It was, it's true theater comedy. Do you think that show will go on and on? It's here. There's nothing I fear. And I know that that show will go on and on? It's here.

There's nothing I fear. And I know that the show will go on. Wait, remember the other night at Showtunes when they played My Heart Will Go On and it was just like everyone. Silent. Everyone just really allowed it to take its space emotionally, culturally, and sonically in that space and that hallowed grounds of the pavilion. And My Heart Will Go On played in everyone through the... At the end was just like totally enraptured

and just, you don't get more iconic than My Heart Will Go On. You just don't. You just don't. But even in these like shots of Celine wearing basically nothing or whatever, just looking so gorgeous, it just makes, it reminds you of her famous quote, which is, it's not about the song, it's about the performance. She's not thinking about the music and the material necessarily. She is just thinking about how to deliver.

And that is so apparent. She is such, she is one thinking about how to deliver. And that is so apparent. She is such, she is one of our big guest singers. I mean, she, remember, never forget

that one of the nominees for best note ever sung was at the very beginning of Every Night in My Dreams at the very beginning of How We'll Go On.

Every night in my dreams. It's one of the best notes ever sung. This is Celine Dion is on Iconic 400. This is the time to say. Wait, didn't we agree? Who was? Number 400 was Blake

Lively. Number 400 is Blake Lively. This is before the It Ends With Us drama. By the way, can I say, okay, i don't think i was totally aware of like exactly what was going on with the it ends with us drama when we talked about it me neither we did not know yeah i i was like very much like oh well team blake duh and then i've since seen like the youtube clips of her interviews talking and i'm like oh maybe it's not as cut and dry as i thought like and now i'm just like wiping my hands of the whole thing being like, well, I hope everyone is happy with their huge hit film.

It's just why I just, I know press is hard. I get it. It's very exhausting and stuff. It's a lot. I just can't imagine being on camera and saying things like she says on camera to some of the people she talks to.

I'm like, wow, this is crazy. You're not even pretending. You're not even pretending to try and be kind to this person. I'm talking about, congratulations on your bump. Well, congratulations on your bump. I was like, oh, this is wild. And it really just flew out

her mouth. I can't quite tell in that situation, though. Like, should she have commented on it? Maybe not. I don't know. I mean, like, here's the thing is it's like,

and again, like, I don't know, but I would imagine like, if you're the kind of celebrity who part of your deal is you do announce things like, yeah, I'm pregnant. You do announce things like we're getting married.

You do have like a public relationship that you benefit from. And also you're out here like, you know, with a lifestyle brand and like selling, you do have like a public relationship that you benefit from. And also you're out here like, you know, with a lifestyle brand and like selling, you know, beverages and like, you know, your hair stuff and like being like, like, like a front facing public celebrity. If someone says to you, congrats on your bump, like you're going to get nasty about it back. I don't think so, honey, quite frankly. And I don't use those words until the end of the episode. I know it's early for me to say that. But it just feels like a little bit like, okay, everyone's allowed a bad day,

but then there's a lot of bad days on those clips. I think this dovetails nicely into a conversation that we as a house have been having. Which is what? It's just so... Hello. I really envy that you can just go that dick and hole out. Aaron has returned from the pantry.

He's wearing a cropped Rugrats tank top and a Speedo thong that shows off his- And he's here with some cold brew concentrate. Gorgeous body, glute bridged body. He did glute bridges so he could walk over to the Pines Pantry with nothing on, two Band-Aids and a cork and a Rugrats mini t-shirt. He doesn't even know

who they are. We said, Chucky is one of them. And Lil, Tommy, and Jell-O Cup. Okay, so you learned it since yesterday. Yeah, and look, and Josh is I think Josh has the fattest ass in showbiz. Josh has a gorgeously

fat ass. The twins do have gorgeous asses. Aaron, do you have a comment on the Blake Lively controversy that people want to know? That the September issue cover is kind of boring. Oh! Tell that to Baz Luhrmann. Directed it. Wait, what do you mean the September issue? She's on the cover of Vogue.

Oh, she's on the cover of Vogue and we're saying it didn't give? Oh, is it here? I brought it. Oh, we have it? We have to get it. We have to look at it. I'll go get it. I get Vogue to my house

by Ashton. Chic. I've never, since 2024. Well, please bring it out because I would love to see this. Because you're a media elite. And September issue

was the issue. They made a whole documentary about it. Yeah. Well, what did they say on the doc? That it's a big issue. I don't know. I don't really keep up with it. Okay, great. Like by boss. Well, to be honest with you, I think this is stunning. The colors might be, yeah. The colors are not giving September.

I mean, she does have some iconic hair. Of course. I have thought that since Sister of the Traveling Pants I'm like oh my god her hair is so thick and gorgeous how do we feel about this I don't believe has ever had a stylist Blake Lively just taste

Matt is silent I think she could benefit from a stylist we all could an objective eye I'm a fan though here's the thing I think she could benefit from a stylist. Well, we all could. An objective eye. I'm a fan, though. Here's the thing. Here's the thing.

It's like, I'm a fan of all these people. I don't want to turn on the TV and see them be nasty to interviewers. That sucks. I don't want to think that. We've been talking about Miss Chappell's week where she has really… Oh, Miss Chappell, yeah. Well, Josh and I are obsessed. Josh brought this up. It's obsession worthy that she is calling

anytime she talks about the work she says the project the project she's like I'm so proud of like I love what we do I'm so grateful for getting to do to work on the project yeah that is such a way of like separating it obviously but being like don't you see

I'm going to outline for you why it makes no sense for you to like run up to me and like unload all your emotional trauma onto me when all i'm doing is like putting work into this long-term project that i've that i've made and of course it's going to elicit an emotional response for me because it's music and the way that like music is arranged and oriented around like worship is kind of weird and fucked up. But that is like, that is what she's like trying to rail against.

And it's hard, but it's hard to change that because it's so set in how it's been set up since whatever, like a hundred years ago. Yeah. I think it's like so much simpler than people are making it out to be, which is she's an artist. up since whatever, like a hundred years ago. Yeah. I think it's like so much simpler than people are making it out to be, which is she's an artist. Her job is to put out music. She doesn't owe you one second of her time and energy. And she's making that really clear. And she's letting

you know, she's not one of these people that's going to be out here pushing her personal brand, like, and attaching it to herself and being out there and really trying to market that she is an artist who refers to what she does on stage as the project, which means it's separate from her. It's outside of her. And when you come up to her and you see her and you invade her space, she's

saying, that might be okay for other people. It is not okay for me. And she is worst case scenario, she pulls a d'angelo and she gets so fucking like rattled by this that she's like i'm moving to the woods i'm never putting in another album again like don't don't let it get to that point no the way i feel is like i fucking love her as an artist i love her music her music has like really bit like it's already even though it's only been out for a

couple years like it's been there for me like it's inspired me i've like really felt my feelings to it and my thing is i just want her to do it for as long as she possibly can however uh however she can do it so if she's giving clear signals like just fucking lay off just enjoy it for what it is because she's a human being yeah And I think there is a huge difference between her and the other people we're talking about who make their... You know what I'm saying? They've had the... Not the training wheels

on, but they've had a steady... Some people love it. Some people love it. I think there's a world where... I do believe that Jennifer Lopez calls the paparazzi on herself. You know what I mean? I believe that she filed for divorce from ben affleck on like the two-year anniversary of their big wedding because she wants people to think about that she wants a documentary out there about her personal fucking life not everyone is like that and i think that is why

chapel feels the need to come out and be like listen me. I am not like these people who want this type of attention all the time. Like there's no part of me that thrives off of my personal space being something valuable to you. Like I don't want you thinking about me and my personhood. She also said, don't call me Kaylee. It's incredibly invasive. Like, and so when someone makes it that clear that they're not up for consumption in that way,

just fucking lay off. Because guess what? There's a lot of people who out there who are, if that's something you fucking thrive on. And then there are also people who are like, well, then why is she like doing the VMAs? That's so stupid. Because that's the project.

Yeah, that's the project. It's separate from the way these certain people will engage with her, which is, yeah, I think the sort of quote unquote backlash to it is so interesting because it is a lot of people being like, but what if they're like, what if they're neurodivergent

or what if they're like, they have social anxiety or what if they blah, blah, blah? It's like, well, they should also just take accountability for what they do to the, what they do unto this person. It's not like,

it's like chapels going up to them and waiting for someone to like respond. I'm sorry, but I'm sorry. The defense of people who are getting up in her face is, but what if they're neurodivergent? Which is honestly, give me a break.

No, but it's honestly like part of this thing where it's like, well, then she shouldn't be taking bigger gigs and also like some people

like have social anxiety. It's like, well then, well no. That's people who feel entitled having, and that's what she's, that's what she's talking about.

and she even says, she's like, and if this makes you feel a certain way or if this makes you feel angry if this makes you feel like something's being taken from you that's not my problem and you need to assess yes which is important anyway the vma's performance is going to be fucking legendary yeah i just know it i don't know anything i'm just saying like it's it's gaga paparazzi it's like it might not be at that level necessarily but i'm saying like, it has that sort of power

and expectation around it when like, I mean, I remember where I was like seeing that performance. You know what I mean? It was the summer of Gaga and then we were all like,

what the fuck is she going to do with the VMAs? This year might bring the VMAs back in many ways. On a Wednesday. Because doesn't it feel like, I mean, it's such a good time for pop music

that like, it feels like the VMAs are worth tuning into again. And maybe this is just indicative of this thing where the pop music landscape needs girlies. Yeah. We've gone without pop girlies for too long.

Is Charlie performing? No. I would love that. It's just Sabrina and Chapel for now. Love Charlie's New York mag. Oh, it's done. Incredible. David LaChapelle.

Yeah, David LaChapelle. One more thing on the chapel of it all, which I think is something that's also getting lost, is it's not like she goes up on stage and waves and smiles. She goes up on stage and she's chapel-rown. She's singing like very, very, very few people in the industry can,

performing at 110% in drag, giving the show to an increasingly large amount of people, which is incredibly exhausting. So it's not just like, well, this is what she signed up for, whatever. The rate at which this has accelerated is truly wild. And it would be one thing if it were, what I'm saying is like, if she were just performing in basements, she'd still be acting

like Chapel Roan, which is a lot of energy. So it's not like everyone else. It's like, she's actually giving you more and more than everyone, which is why you love her. We love how maximalist she is. We love that she hearkens back to a time that was big and emotional and energetic. That's part of who she is. And also that speaks to how much energy she's using. That's something

you have to remember too. She's not going up there giving you nothing and coming off. It's not easy for her to do what she's doing. Were you at the show at Brooklyn Steel where she it was during her keyboard set, and it got a little quiet, and she was going into

my personal history stuff, and then there was just some chatter in the back. She did the whole school teacher thing, which I thought was great. She's not a warm person, and that's wonderful. Wonderful, even. It's great. It's wonderful, even. She's like, guys, there's talking going on back there. The whole theater was, wonderful even. It's great. It's wonderful even. She's like,

guys, there's talking going on back there. I don't think the whole theater was like, whoa, oh, okay. Like she's not like, she's not there to like,

I don't know, be like this like beautiful, benevolent, you know, like Gaga-esque pop star, which Gaga, I guess did that back in the day, which maybe,

I don't know. But like, I think maybe like we need to like rearrange the paradigms around like how a pop star, which Gaga, yes, did that back in the day, which maybe, I don't know. But I think maybe we need to rearrange the paradigms around how a pop star is supposed to make us feel and how we're supposed to act around them. Just treat people like people. Treat people like people, whether you're a fan at their show, who's up there looking at them, being like, wow, they're amazing. I put them on a pedestal. That's a person. If you are a celebrity who's in an interview and someone says something you don't like, treat them like a person. You know what I mean? Like just, I think everyone should treat, if you're on fire Island and you come up to me and you see me treat me like a dog, treat me bad, treat me like you think I am.

No, actually treat everyone else like a person. Right. What people on Fire Island love to do to anybody is just hurdle facts about niche actresses. That's just what happens. Sometimes you'll just be standing and someone will come

at you from your left and be like, you know, she won the Oscar for Best Actress in 1964. And I'd be like, I'm like, okay.

Oh. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us?

I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV Plus. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.

Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian, Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian, Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.

Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.

We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. like, what are y'all talking about? I'm like, everyone's talking about fucking I don't know. Alien, like the Alien movies. I was like, I guess I had not ever seen an Alien movie. Oh no, I saw Covenant. I just never saw the original Alien, Aliens, Aliens. So you've seen, but you watched Alien the other night. We watched Alien the other night. I loved it. Yeah, it was great. You've

never seen that. I've never seen it. It's pure horror. I just know it's a horror classic. You know what I have seen? I have seen Prometheus. And Prometheus I hear is very it. It's pure horror. I just know it's a horror classic. You know what I have seen? I have seen Prometheus. And Prometheus I hear is very fun. It depends on what you're looking for. It's pure lore. It's like the origin. Yeah, it's like truly the origin story. But I remember I saw Prometheus

in college because I... Fassbender? Well, I wanted to see Michael Fassbender. I'm also a Charlize fan. Of course. And I had it in my head that someone I was going to see the movie with, even though he was straight, we could maybe have something happen. And then I realized, like... Was he a Leo?

I probably could find out. Do I know this person? You actually... Text me. Okay, hold on. You're actually going to die when you find out who this is that I'm talking about. Wait, wait, wait. This person is a Gemini. Wait. What? Wait, wait, wait. okay hold on you're actually gonna die when you find out who this is that i'm talking about wait wait okay this person is a gemini wait wow wait wait wait what are you what is this true

who is this person yeah yeah yeah yeah okay okay okay okay okay i can't say it on the mic this person is a gemini he's um he's potentially well known um This person is a Gemini, and we went to go see Prometheus together in college, and I thought the whole time that something could happen, and I'm telling Bowen who it is right now on text, and that's who it is. I had a suspicion. Oh, my God.

I love that first name, by the way. Me too. I had a suspicion. Oh my God. I just, I love that first name, by the way. Me too. Such a hot first name. Okay. So any more thoughts on Sabrina Carpenter,

short and sweet, or else, or should we move on to I Don't Think So Honey? No, let's move on to I Don't Think So Honey. I just, I do really want to put out there. Juno is so good.

Juno is so good, of course. I think, again, don't smile. Love that as a closer. Yeah. I also love, you don't have to lie to

girls if they like you they'll just lie to themselves like that's a great lyric if they like you they'll just lie to themselves like you they'll just lie to themselves and I do think the highlight of the whole thing is I might let you make me Juno and then she goes you know I just

you know I want to put out there once again. I'm looking for a husband. Yeah. That is the energy that I'm. Six, five, chest fun, blue eyes. Just kidding. Those are the worst.

Those are the worst. That's, that's danger. Let's move on. I don't think so, honey. Let's move on. I don't think so, honey. This is our 60 seconds. I went.

This is. Do you have I went. This is. Do you have something, Matt? Yeah. Okay. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

Ben Affleck. And I'm not over it. And I have actually done. This is actually the trilogy because I've done. Yeah. I don't think so, honey. Ben Affleck and JLo critics the first time. When they first got together, I said, let her get her best nut if that's what she wants.

Turns out, now I'm like, you know what? I should never have given that advice because you know what? She went back to her best nut and it blinded her. Sometimes your best nuts blind you and then all of a sudden, here you are heartbroken because a man can't only said he was a man. And it's like Sabrina Carpenter said, just because you leave

like one doesn't make you a man. Ben Affleck, get it fucking together. Now he's dating Kick Kennedy. Give me a goddamn break. First of all, I don't think so many of the Kennedys. RFK Jr. actually killed us all dead. You know what? I'm done. By the way,

what microwave did that man go into? Because Jesus Christ. Cheryl Hines, hello? What is going on? What is going on? What is going on? Now Ben Affleck is in the family? I don't think so, honey.

Ben Affleck, it's a mess. Get it together. And that's one minute. Crimson Banner. Crimson Banner. That is who you do not trust. Yeah. We are done.

We're done. We're done with the Leos. We're done with this. Actually, this is an attack on Leos. Full out. Should this, this is an attack on Leos. Full, full out. Should this episode be called an attack on Leos? Yes.

Not, what was the other one? Aquarius. Aquarius, bright, silly, whatever. Attack on Leos. I feel like that was the last episode. The last title that we said on the episode. Oh, white blessed and. No, no, no, no, no, no.

White fair and blessed. No, I forgot it. forgot it my brain what's your astrological sign aaron jackson trustworthy trustworthy hard worker stubborn beast of burden oh we know you're stubborn loves um luxuries yes well what's that you're drinking? Orange juice? This is tangerine juice. That is very Taurus. To not drink orange juice, but drink tangerine juice? You would never make it at Honcho. Never.

I want to, but I think I would never survive. I would perish. It's very smelly. And that's why the city smelled nice when the boys were gone. So this is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. Do you have something?

Hold on, I have it. Yes, I did just have it. Did you write something down? Oh, no, no, no. I have it. I have it, yes. Okay, this is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey

as time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey Oasis reunion happening. This is a toxic relationship. This is a toxic brotherhood. The Gallagher brothers are not meant to be together any time. Like, this is a toxic relationship. This is a toxic brotherhood. The Gallagher brothers are not meant to be together. Anytime, like, this is the thing.

They, like, attack each other in the press, but then they always are like, but we might reunite. Stop it. This is such- I'm over it. I'm over it. Pick a lane,

stick to it for the rest of your life, because guess what? We don't trust you. Like, Oasis is one of those bands at this point now. It's like, have they earned this kind of fervor and like media attention? Like, I don't like,

they're not like Lauren Hill level to me where it's like, we will just like put up with the, the wacky behaviors. 15 seconds. These are two men who are so toxically bad to each other and to the world. And this little game of like, we might reunite and now we've reunited, and we're playing all these shows only in London

and Ireland, or only in the UK and Ireland. I'm not coming to you. Come to me. And that's one minute. Well, you know, I think two boring white people, Oasis is like Lauryn Hill. Yeah, sure. You know what I mean? But even Lauryn will play a show, and Lauryn's not like,

Lauryn's not like, Lauren's not like, I'm doing another album. She's like, no, I'll just tour with this one masterpiece of an album that I wrote. Yeah, with arrangements that are different every single time. Right.

At Oasis, it's like, okay, besides what's the story of Morning Glory? Like, I can't tell you what the, like, I'm sorry, the Oasis heads out there, but it's like, that's the album. You know what I mean?

Like, otherwise, it's Slim Pickens, Sabrina Carpenter. This might surprise, Slim Pickens, another highlight of the album. Of course. This might surprise people to hear, but I'm actually overhearing or knowing anything about celebrities.

Like, I know we talked a lot about them today, but that's only because, like, that's the news outside of, like, the DNC. So what should this podcast be about now? Well, I'm just saying, it's just like, I would rather talk about

the things that they are a part of and doing like artistically. Than the behavior. But the behavior is what's forced down our throats. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

And I wonder. Let's talk about the work. I wonder if the thing with It Ends With Us is like, it was so difficult to market because it is essentially what it is that it's hard to to market because it is essentially what it is

that it's hard to get out there and say what the movie really is. So they did lean into this whole thing of like the drama or whatever. Yes. I don't know if the movie was a success and worked because of that, like financially and commercially, because it was like a huge fucking success. Right.

But also I guess the book is that famous? The book is that famous, but there are not, there was supposed to be a sequel in the works and I don't think that sequel is happening anymore because of the drama. Oh, I see.

So, that's where we are. But see, this is the thing. It's like, the behavior affects the work so much. Yeah. So,

yeah. Well. Well, that's the summer. That's the summer. I think we will earnestly start. I think we have to start doing Iconic 400 soon. Well, you're difficult to get a hold of and pin down.

I'll do a better job of responding to my emails. No, you've actually been the one being like, let's do this. I think when we do start the list, here's the last thing I want to say about Blake Lively. I'm looking at all the positives and there are so many. I'm not going to the positives, and there are so many. There are so many positives. I'm not going to let this press tour. The Iconic 400 is a celebration of these people.

And she does have iconic hair. She has a lot to celebrate. And you know what? I do like this photo. It's just very... Is there more pictures in here? When you think September issue, when you think Baz Luhrmann, it's a little muted as I think people's

issue with it. God, the Vogue September issue is so big. Yeah, you can't even find other pictures of her in here. I mean,

it's just too much. It's too much. Oh, there's a great picture of Julia Roberts in here. Good for her. She needs one. She needs a good picture.

I mean, she needs to be photographed more. All right, well, listen. This has been Lost Culturistas. Dua Libre. to be photographed more. All right. Well, listen. This has been Las Culturistas. Dua Libre.

Why so? Dua Libre. We're going to enjoy the rest of our vacation. We hope wherever you are in the world, you are having a nice wind down of your summer, winter,

if you're in the southern hemisphere. And Leo, really think about what you've done. Think about what you've done. Consider changing signs. Isn't it a bummer that they also get

like the heart of the summer too? Like they get to feel whatever. Fall is where it's at. We're so excited for fall. Oh, I'm so excited. Can I also say there are some Leos out there that I really like. Of course.

Here, let's look at famous ones at least. Let's end on a positive note. Yes. Best Leo celebrity. Jennifer Lawrence. Love her. J-Lo is also a Leo. Oh, wow. Two Leos together. See, that's why

we're talking about it. Oh, Madonna's a Leo. Kylie Jenner's a Leo. This says it all. Daniel Radcliffe is. Meghan Markle's a Leo. Daniel Radcliffe is a demure Leo. Barack Obama is a Leo. Sure, sure. That tracks. Lisa Kudrow. Demi Lovato. Dua Lipa. All these people love attention. Charlize Theron. Oh, wow. Mick Jagger. That tracks. Lisa Kudrow. Demi Lovato. Dua Lipa. All these people love attention.

Charlize Theron. Oh, wow. Mick Jagger. Whitney Houston. Joe Jonas. See, we do love Leos. We love Leos. We're just kidding, y'all.

Best sign. Best sign. Bye. Are we always at Nepal? With a song. Slamp it is. I don't know what that was. Slamp. Oh, should we tell them our new bit?

What's the bet? When someone is saying something you don't like, in the middle of the sentence, you start going like this. Tell me something I really don't like. Long Island sucks. I suck at too much air and I get the heck out of it. But you're supposed to just growl and roar.

I'm pretty scary, huh? Wow, maybe we have Leo energy. Ooh. Bye. Bye. Bye. Las Culturistas is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and iHeartRadio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Hans Sani. Produced by Becca Ramos.

Edited and mixed by Doug Boehm and Monique Laborde. And our music is by Henry Kaburski. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question. What kind of dudes are these dudes?

We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13

to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.