Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "An Emergency With Our Closest Friend" (w/ Cole Escola)
Episode Date: May 22, 2024Broadway. You don't get bigger than THAT. And today's Las Cultch guest, gleaming diamond of the culture Cole Escola, is headed there, honey. "Oh, Mary!" is the show AND the moment, and Matt & Bow...en welcome its star and playwright to discuss reasons for dick appointment cancellation, how it might actually be the time for our civilization to end, and whether or not 45 deserves a turn to *dazzle* on Broadway. All this, Cole's refusal to discuss the Met Gala, the time Bow and Cole saw a Dutch production of Les Miz, new Nicholas Galitzine theories, the best bathroom cruising and birding locations, and the question of whether or not our assholes are the same color as our lips. Also, dream casting for the future of Oh, Mary!, pills, how to battle giardia when it hits your household, theme party etiquette, a lot of tension and a ton of other fucking nonsense. You wanted Cole?! Well, they're here, queer and USED to it (hearing how much Matt and Bowen love them). See Oh, Mary! at the Lyceum starting in June! 12 Weeks Only!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, man.
Where?
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Oh, my.
Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Look over there. Is that culture? Yes.
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Well, we do praise God. Praise God.
By the way, just so everyone knows moving forward, this is officially a Judeo-Christian podcast.
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Old or New Testament, can it, Missy.
You had a really tragic energy coming in.
Not tragic energy, but you were a little ornery.
You know what?
I actually, as I was walking here today, I was like,
am I going to show up as my bitchy self today?
Or am I going to put up a front?
No.
But I'm choosing to be authentic today and say,
I'm in a bitchy mood because of two things.
And you know when two things go wrong
and then everything else is the third thing?
Well, you know, for the domino effect to happen.
Now go on.
Two dominoes have to fall.
Or one has to fall.
But one has to knock into the second.
That's actually rule of culture number eight.
For the dominoes to fall,
one has to fall into the second.
Not our best.
So, tell us what happened.
Well, the first thing was, today I was coming back into
New York City. Welcome,
by the way. Thank you so much.
I'm from Long Island, New York, because it was
of course, the Day of Mothers. Mother's Day, I spent the. Thank you so much. I'm from Long Island, New York, because it was, of course, the day of mothers.
Mother's Day.
I spent the day with Katrina and co.
And I came back in today and was going to open my AirPods.
Classic comedy.
They fell out onto the train tracks.
Classic comedy.
And would you believe there actually was a moment where I was like, can I go on the train tracks and get my AirPods?
And I said, can you imagine that type of death for me?
Third rail.
And then you were going to get railed tonight.
Okay.
So then the second thing was I get a text like immediately after the AirPods are gone.
I did not hop on the track that says my dick appointment that I had to cancel.
And I wanted to discuss the reason that he gave.
We don't know the reason.
We're about to get the big reveal.
No.
And I said, the snake is eating its own tail in the gay community
when it comes to reasons
for canceling on dick appointments.
Because we've heard them all.
This is one I've used.
Having an emergency
with his closest friend.
I said, you know what?
Just say that your friend needs you.
When you said closest friend,
that was the tell.
I'm having an emergency
with my closest friend
and they really need me,
dot, dot, dot.
Really wanted to hang out
wondering about later
or maybe when you get back to New Yorkork this is fine this is not a big
deal i'm just saying i've used that excuse i'm not sure what the better excuse would be those are
two severe words that are used in proximity to each other that is suspicious emergency closest
emergency and closest friend like it's not just something came up An emergency came up
No it's just a friend
No the closest friend
So what I'm saying is
We need to come up with a new excuse
We need new excuses
And I would love to brainstorm today
Yeah
With our noted queer guest
One of the biggest queers
That's gonna be really fun to talk to them
Yeah definitely
But I think that
I really needed the dick after the
AirPods went away. I was already excited about it.
You know who wants to fuck you?
My dad.
We can't talk about this. No, actually, don't tell me
what I can't talk about. I'm in a bad mood as it is.
I'm not comfortable with you talking about your father
being attracted to me.
So Bowen has
been sort of
hitting the gym.
And you better get comfortable
with Lost Coach becoming
the poster children for sex
because we're working so hard in the gym.
I went to Barry's today,
but this isn't about me.
This is about Bow.
My dad said,
when you did the Mother's Day bit
with your mom,
who was perfect.
Very, very sweet.
My dad goes, Bowen looks fucking great.
And he's saying fuck more than ever.
Bowen looks fucking great.
He's been in the fucking gym.
Fucking looking toned.
Big arms.
You don't have to know anything.
Okay.
Don't piss me off.
Go ahead, calm yourself down.
Because you're out of control
is this what they call transference
I don't know what that means
we're not psychologists
he rubs himself
I'm getting transference
this is
an auspicious day
we have our guest
joining us
back by popular demand.
Literally, they beg.
They beg us to do.
They beg and plead and it wasn't the right time.
And this is the right time because guess what?
It's day one of their much deserved time off before previews begin for O'Mary on Broadway.
You don't get bigger than Broadway.
You don't get bigger than Broadway You don't get bigger than Broadway
There's no way up
There's not any bigger stage
A lot of people have been asking
I swear to God
This is a conversation I have constantly
With people in the community
How do you think they'll make it bigger and better
I don't think they have to
And that's my answer to every single individual
Thank you sis
Bigger and better
Shut up
I said
Shut up
It's already big and good
It's already big and better
Bigger and better
Look Bowen
I'm so happy
That you have this
Oh shut
See now I'm pissed off
We're so angry
What else do you want
It is
I'm sorry
And I said this
I had the privilege
Of going opening night At the Lucille Hortel.
I walked out of that saying, that is the funniest comedy play ever written, ever produced, ever performed.
Why do we want more?
Stop it.
Let me tell you something.
Certainly.
Stop it with that colonial attitude.
Certainly the best thing that's been at the Lucille Hortel.
Say, hey, all right.
Let's not do that.
The best thing that's been at the Lucille Hortel. What about hey, alright, let's not do that. The best thing that's been at the Lucio Lortel.
What about the Lyceum?
Everything before it sucks.
What about the Lyceum?
Lyceum, more like I-see-um.
Flopping.
I-see-um all flopping.
At the Lyceum.
I-see-um.
There's been no good theater.
There's been no good.
There's been nothing of salt until now.
And we were all talking about that,
actually, right before we got on mic.
We were all saying how,
thank God.
There's been no good theater for decades.
Well, Cole came in and they said,
thank God I decided to do the show.
Not since what show
has there not been good theater?
I don't think there's been anything good
on stage since Mame.
Sarah Jessica Parker agrees.
Agrees.
June 26th,
previews begin 12 weeks
at the YCM.
Only,
give this person
a fucking break.
Please.
Give Conrad Rickamore
a goddamn break.
No, I say continue to work him.
Yeah.
He needs to stay busy,
keep the voices at bay.
Crazy people.
Everyone in that show,
everyone in the show
is insane
and the people backstage
are even crazier
Hannah Solo
Peter Smith
dear god
Hannah and Peter squawking
oh my god
selling their little baubles
selling their baubles backstage
trying the best they can
to get on stage
good luck I say
this one's never getting sick
have fun with the little marbles and spilling them
all over the floor. This one is never
going to trip. This one's never
getting sick. And if they do
trip, you're going to see the bloomers.
I'm sorry, I'm spoiling the show.
I'm spoiling the show, aren't I? Well, here's a spoiler.
It's incredible.
And so
is our guest. And when I say
they beg, I mean the audience begs
the audience literally begs us to have Cole back
because they don't like
our other episodes
they get mad when we
they get furious
we're in our polarizing flop era
and it ends today
with our guest
the one and only
Cole Essoa. Oh my God.
Don't talk when we're talking.
Don't talk when we're talking.
That was rude.
How dare you?
Don't you have enough stage time?
You are trying to get me ruined.
Yeah.
How so?
I never said,
I never said that there's never been any good theater.
Who are they going to believe,
you know?
Me or you?
You're going to get me in trouble because I'm part of the community
now.
I love every show that's ever been written.
Yeah, that's true. Ever been performed.
Well, what are the top three shows?
Top three shows of all time? Yeah.
O'Mary. No.
Our Town.
Our Town.
Thornton. My Town. Thornton My Town
Thornton
and The Town
Oh I love The Town
Blake Lively was so good in that
Blake Lively, come back to Broadway
I would like to see that
I would like to see that
Ariana
Come back to Broadway
So Cole would do this bit
way back in the day
what would they do now
they would pretend to be like
I mean
how about you tell it
I butcher this
I just
it's a character
that's like all my other characters
it's just
crazy woman
crazy
crazy woman
all she cares about
is getting Ariana Grande
back on Broadway
honestly you're in the right place you're in the right place.
You're in the right place.
You have a direct line.
Well, no.
Ariana.
This is all set up to say, first day on set of Wicked.
My friend, Cola Scola, does this bit where they pretend to be this old woman, this theater-going woman, who all she wants.
She goes to every show, but all she wants.
Ariana, come back to Broadway.
We miss you, sweetheart.
Get on this side of the footlights again. I see
you at the shows. Yeah.
Do something besides Jason. Come on.
JRB. Come on.
It's all the same. You said
that before coming on the mic too. JRB's
all the same. No.
No. You are getting me
so... Can you
imagine what you just did
I have mucus
a cough in my mouth
I was getting mucus up
oh my god
we need to start this over
let's start this over
I think we need to start this over
listen
I think the listeners
need to know that
I've been doing
eight shows a week
for a long time
yeah now explain
you sound hot
explain what's going on
so this voice
is
tired
yeah
now what's the pre-show ritual this voice Is Tired Yeah Yeah yeah yeah
Now what's the pre-show ritual
Greathers Past Steals
Atomizer
What do you do
I do
I vocal steam
I meet with Tony
Tony
Robbins
Oh
Robbins
Tony Robbins
Tony Robbins
To censor you
Yeah
Bring it on to earth
God he's good
Yeah
God he's good
People forget
They do forget People forget how good he is, he's good. People forget.
They do forget.
People forget how good he is.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
But I don't want to forget about the dick appointment excuses.
What's your sort of whole
read on that situation?
You know what? I think just saying
I need to reschedule.
Yeah, totally fine.
I need to reschedule.
Because it's so anxiety inducing
because then you have to be like,
oh no,
I hope your friend's okay.
And then,
otherwise you're an asshole.
Now I'm worried about this friend.
Closest.
Closest friend.
What kind of emergency?
Because not for nothing,
but if it's a real emergency,
we might not be able
to reschedule.
You're going to be grieving.
Yeah.
This is an emergency
with your closest friend.
How do you know
Thursday is going to work?
You don't know that?
You have an emergency
with your closest friend.
An emergency
with your closest friend?
You don't know anything
about the future.
You can't plan out anything.
Text them tomorrow.
How's your friend doing?
Well, I think I might.
How's your friend doing? It's like think I might. How's your friend doing?
It's like, it was the kind of thing where it was like,
it went a little bit beyond like dick appointment
because of how far it went in the sexting.
And there even was some verbal.
There were some voice messages sent back and forth.
Do y'all do that?
Gay culture is, gay courting,
gay courtship is over-promising, under-delivering gay courtship is over-promising, under-delivering.
Constantly.
Over-promising,
under-delivering.
Don't you think?
My mind went to the Olympics.
My mind went to Carrie Struth.
Well,
they're right around the corner.
You going?
You going?
Yeah,
I'll be there
because I have to promote the show.
Right.
In July.
12 weeks.
When does that end?
I can't remember.
Help us.
3, 4, 5, 6. Five, six, seven.
Carry the one.
Carry the one.
We came up in the same community.
We came up in the same community.
We both came up in the same community.
Carry the one at the same time.
Amazing.
I don't know.
Anyway.
You'll be in Paris.
I'll be in Paris for the Olympics promoting O'Mary.
Yeah.
Now, do you think they know who she is?
Being that she's, I'm reading in my notes, a former first lady of the United States.
Well, you know, I think a lot of people forget.
Yeah.
Well.
People forget.
Can I be honest and say you were on Seth?
It was perfect.
Seth Meyers, a friend of the community.
Yeah.
And a little too friendly, I think.
Well, total gay guy.
He's arriving at that.
Let him cook.
You're right.
Let him come out.
Let him cook.
Let him cook.
Let Seth Meyers come out
on his own terms.
Right.
So,
uh,
you said on his show that,
um,
you did almost no research because,
and I think this is so smart because
you would have written jokes that were like,
well,
that's going to get a laugh because
that's where she was born.
Yeah. Well, I got
a lot of people...
The story has been fucking annoying.
No, no, no. Just two people being like,
oh, this person does no research
and now they get a play on Broadway?
Yes, actually. Wow.
And I'm like, you don't understand
the decades of work
that went into this play.
Yes. It literally has been.
Yeah.
15 years?
15, 18, 19.
Oh, God.
Actually, though?
Carry the one.
Please.
Someone else carry the one.
Yeah.
My back hurts.
My back hurts.
Someone else carry it.
Carry it.
Carry it.
They're pointing.
You at home.
Carry the one.
So, why do you think she was so crazy?
Mary? Yeah. What do you think she was so crazy Mary
yeah
what do you think it was
I have no idea
she was hysterical
that woman
she was
she was kind of silly
yeah
she's just a silly little gal
right
she liked to have fun
with her friends
go shopping
yeah
you know
and then Abe kind of
tied her down
yeah
oh that's my worst nightmare
if I were a cabaret singer
so the character of Mary and I think If I were a cabaret singer, so the character of Mary,
and I think Mary historically was a cabaret star.
Yes. Yeah, it doesn't work out.
You marry this guy, he's president,
and then you're like, I would go
crazy. Yeah. It is a perfect
Who Among Us. Yeah. I've talked
a lot to Michelle about this.
Obama? Yeah. You know, because
she really wanted to sing.
Really? She's really been
wanting to sing
for a long time.
What stopped her?
Her bad voice?
You know,
they released a picture
of Michelle Obama
the other day.
She looked really high.
High?
Yeah,
she looked like
she was having fun
like at a resort
or something.
Well,
look,
you're going to get me
in trouble
with more than one
community tonight, okay the dc community
you're not even gonna be able to go down and do it at the lincoln theater my tony bye bye
i mean my tony gone gone thanks a lot reactions to the tony noms this year
there's too many i actually should be one award. Yeah.
For the whole show.
For the whole show.
Yeah.
With how many nominations?
Just like two.
Okay.
It should be down to like two people.
Oh, that's good.
I love that.
It makes it even more heartbreaking.
It should be Hillary versus Trump.
Yeah.
And.
Oh God.
Yeah.
Trump would be a better actor,
wouldn't he?
I mean, Hillary can, depends on the show. Right. You're actually right better actor, wouldn't he? I mean,
Hillary can,
depends on the show.
Right.
You're actually right.
Well,
Hillary can produce stuff.
Trump could produce stuff,
but Hillary couldn't do,
you know,
like Angels in America.
Whereas Trump could,
Trump would be an amazing Roy Cohn.
Trump would be an amazing Roy Cohn.
I mean,
he knew him.
He knew him.
That's his mentor.
I think he'd be a good,
what's his name?
Pryor.
Pryor. Trump as Pryor. Yeah. Trump good, what's his name? Pryor.
Pryor.
Trump as Pryor.
Trump as Harper. Trump dazzles as Pryor.
Can't you see it?
I can see it.
Because you can spell it out.
Trump has never been better as Pryor.
Dazzles.
Oh my God.
Just the word Trump over Angels in America.
America is great again.
That's where we're going.
Yeah. That's what's going to happen. Make Angels in America? America is great again. That's where we're going. Yeah.
I mean, that's what's going to happen.
Make Angels in America great again.
Wow.
Oh, my God.
That's title of app.
Title of app.
Make Angels in America great again.
Oh.
Trump dazzles as prior.
Trump dazzles as prior.
You have to say it in that voice, too.
Now we're in hot water with the Kushner community.
Okay.
And the Mike Nichols community.
That's okay. No, they would love it. Hey. And the Mike Nichols community. That's okay.
No, they would love it. Hey, hey,
their checks are clearing. Yeah, that's absolutely true.
You don't want to put butts in seats?
Put Trump on Broadway.
We're all scared to say it. Put Trump
on Broadway if you want to save Broadway.
We're going.
Big ass around the boards.
I'm saying boards I'm saying
I'm saying
what are we so afraid of
talent
what are we so afraid of
that we might like it
yeah
I think America's
too afraid
I know
of yeah
100%
that's why we're in this mess
that's why we're in this mess
yeah
if we just put him on Broadway
this is
honestly
not
not
an answer
if I were to go to him right now and say,
yeah,
look,
if you drop out 12 weeks,
Oh Mary,
would you do that?
No,
not at all.
I don't care who it would save.
Yeah.
I think that's really noble.
This is my time.
It's my year.
Of course it is.
Yeah.
No,
I don't want you to give up
thank you
I do think we could
recast some of your castmates
hey
let's get them out of there
put Trump in
put Trump in
yeah
sorry Scully
sorry Scully
later
Trump would be a great
Mary's teacher
yeah
cause honestly
Trump would get the same reaction
as James when he walks out
just the audience
James walks out
and the audience goes, oh.
Fuck yeah.
Sorry, can we cuss? I forget, is this
ex-Christian? No, this is
Judeo-Christian, but
the whole religion is like...
It's fake?
How did you find
that out? It's about control.
Okay.
As I put my coffee
all over myself. You know, I went to the museum the other
day. I brought my mom to the Brooklyn Museum. Lovely.
Congratulations, by the way. Thank you.
I know you've been meaning to get there for years.
Yeah. Very hard
to get it. Most
empires last three, four hundred
years. Yeah. We're due. We're done.
You think so?
It's curtains for me. You know what podcast I love? Yes. We're due. We're done. You think so? It's curtains for me. You know what podcast
I love? Yes.
The Kelsey Brothers.
The Kelsey Brothers. Who are the
Kelsey Brothers? Travis and
Jason Kelsey. And they have a podcast?
And they're actually very charming.
No, they're great. They actually...
Oh wait, that's how I first heard I Don't Think So, Honey.
Because they started it.
And then you guys kind of...
It's the first time gay people have taken from...
Straight.
Straight football players.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This podcast called Fall of Civilizations.
Oh.
And every episode is...
Wake up.
Wake up.
Every episode is a new civil...
Like, you know...
You wanted them on.
Now they're here.
Now they're talking about the fall civilizations!
And yeah, they're being didactic.
Roman Britain.
Yeah.
The fall of Roman Britain.
The Bronze Age collapsed.
When you say Roman Britain, as in when Britain was Roman?
Yes.
And how that fell apart.
Yes, yes, yes. It's fascinating.
It's really interesting stuff.
And I think people don't realize.
But here's the thing about history.
I get annoyed when people are like,
we're doomed to repeat the mistakes.
And I'm like, I think we're doomed no matter what,
even if we do know the history.
That's just how...
Not me.
No, certainly not you.
Not you.
Well, congrats.
Thank you.
Can I tell this story, Cole?
You can tell it, but you better be careful.
I don't know what story you're talking about.
I basically had a little mental breakdown over the summer.
Oh my God, that was hilarious.
We were all laughing about it.
Yeah, I remember.
The group thread was just screaming.
On fire.
On fire.
I go to Amsterdam.
You were in Ghent at the time?
Yes.
You were in Ghent at the time yes you were in Ghent at the time
I was posting my close friends
gonna be in Amsterdam
you said
maybe I'll come see you
yeah
I said I will pay
for a hotel room
if you come
and hang out with me
and you were
so
kind to do that
kind
I was
in Ghent
everyone's kind
I was in Ghent
yeah and then we had a lovely day together and we I was in Ghent. Everyone's kind. I was in Ghent.
Yeah.
And then we had a lovely day together and we were in the park.
Yeah.
Was it you or me?
We were just like, we should go see a play tonight.
Yeah.
I can't remember.
God, I can't remember who it was.
What did you guys go see?
We're like, let's go see Les Mis.
Yeah.
And then we looked up tickets for that night, bought two tickets to Les Mis,
sat in the mezzanine,
all in Dutch.
In Dutch.
The ugliest language ever.
Not a gorgeous language. Bad, bad language.
Bad tongue.
And hilarious.
Songs in Dutch?
No way.
Oh, wow.
That's generous.
Thank you.
Did any song survive the language?
I mean, One Day More was pretty cool.
Yeah.
Of course.
What about those harmonies?
The harmonies.
One day more!
Yeah.
That's good.
That was great.
That was really good.
That was too good.
Jean right here.
Stop it.
Trump, look out.
Trump, look out.
Hey, Trump, I'm coming for you.
Hey, Donald Trump, I'm coming for you, baby.
It was a lovely time.
It was one of the worst days of my life.
Well, for me, it was nice.
No, it was incredible.
Thank you for being there for my sake.
Watching Les Mis in Dutch.
Yeah.
It was like going to the opera.
Yeah.
You know?
Exactly.
Now, did y'all sort of do a post-mortem after?
What do you mean?
We just couldn't.
We were so moved.
Yeah.
Oh, we were very moved.
All we could do was walk.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We just walked.
It's a beautiful city for that type of thing.
Oh, yeah.
Be careful.
Be very careful.
Tread lightly.
You're right.
I tread much lighter
sorry I'm just
reeling
reeling
from the subway
from the airpods
the airpods went down
there's gonna be
no dick in my butt tonight
I think
there's still time
there's still time
I did think about
getting like
on the apps
and being like
who
yeah
Samantha who
Christina Applegate
Christina Applegate
who I share a birthday with
so please be careful
that must be where all the talent gets born
oh yeah
me, Joe DiMaggio
Christina Applegate
that's pretty good
that's a really good trio
yeah
day over
now
what are the hopes and dreams for this time off you have before the previews start?
I want to get back to me.
Yeah.
I believed that.
I'm sorry.
Thank you.
Don't let this change you.
Well, no.
I think what's happening is.
What?
Don't let this success change you.
Yeah.
Thank you.
One thing that everyone's
been talking about in the group thread that you're not in
is that you've changed.
Thank you.
And that you've become
a big star.
You went to the Met Gala. That actually
happened. And if you think I'm not going to ask
about it and who you sat next to,
you didn't...
You weren't correct.
I think they're just going to sip on that. You didn't... You weren't correct.
You're just going to sip on that water?
Well, I'm not going to forget the question and you're going to run out of water.
At some point, you're going to have to
come up for air, boo.
Oh, not that.
And you asked for them to come back.
Can we please...
No.
We don't have to talk about it.
No, I was going to say, have to talk about it No I was gonna say
You looked stunned
Can we talk
About
The abuse
Mariah Carey
Precious
Oh you matched
Every inflection
Yeah
Can we talk
About
The abuse
In your household
I'm talking about
What did you say
Talking about
Repeated instances
I'm sort of making it up now
But really
Mariah
Was never better at acting
than that moment.
So grounded.
Can I tell you something?
No, please.
Can I just throw it out there anyway?
Watch Glitter again.
It's not bad.
Of course not.
I've never seen it.
Do yourself a favor.
I will.
Watch a couple movies.
You have a lot of time off?
Yeah.
So, you know what you gotta watch?
And this is, one's a real suggestion, one's not.
Okay.
Watch Glitter, lol, that's the bit.
You really should watch The Idea of You.
Both of you.
Oh, I used to have the Anne Hathaway necklace.
Yeah, I was mesmerized.
I loved it.
And I cried at the end.
That man is made out of milk.
Well, Matt's theory is that he's AI.
Now, do you like him any better now that you've seen this film?
So, get this. I'm not convinced he's AI. Now, do you like him any better now that you've seen this film? So get this.
I'm not convinced he's not AI at this point.
But you don't mind.
But I am a big fan.
And I think if Nick Galitzine is AI,
then we need to just cut Fran loose
and start doing the AI thing.
Because if Nick Galitzine is AI, which is still my theory, then I think that's the future. Let him take our jobs. Yeah. And start doing the AI thing. Because if Nick Galitzine is AI, which is still my theory,
then I think that's the future.
Let him take our jobs.
Yeah.
We're not booking them anyway, sweetheart.
He's made out of milk.
Explain.
Go on.
Look at him.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Imagine taking a bite out of his cheek.
Yummy.
Actually, I think you could.
Yeah.
He is milk duddish.
Yeah.
And I say this in a very, like, horny way. I think he's very attractive. Yummy. Actually, I think you could. He is milk dud-ish. And I say this in a very
horny way. I think he's very
attractive.
I have a theory that people's assholes
are the same color as their lips.
I think you're wrong.
I'm going to tell you you're wrong.
Why you're so brown?
Don't presume
the hue. Don't presume the hue.
Don't presume the hue. That's actually rollercoaster number eight. Don't presume The hue Don't presume the hue Don't presume the hue
That's actually
Roller coaster number 8
Don't presume
The hue
No
That's not the color
Of my hole
Let me see mine
No
Wait
No
Wait
Wait
Wait hold on
Okay
That's gonna be the picture
Okay
We all just took a picture
Of our beautiful lips
And I don't know You don't know. Your hole can't
be that color. I can't see it.
Yes, you can. Take a picture.
Squat over your phone. You've never taken a picture of your booty hole?
No.
Cole, please.
Oh my god.
You've seen it. I've not seen Cole's hole.
I've seen a gorgeous
shot on a close friend
of Cole's amazing ass
oh sure well
I mean it's easy
it catches the light so perfectly
it's hard to take a bad one
give yourself some credit
I'll give myself a little credit
I don't think I made the close friends
it's not the close friends
it's another thing
it's another secret third thing oh it's a finsta it's another thing. It's another thing. It's another secret third thing.
It's a finsta.
I had a horny finsta. I guess I still do.
Is it done? What?
I don't really maintain mine.
Me neither. I think I took six pictures
during the horniest time of the
pandemic.
We have to
forgive ourselves for everything we did in
2020.
Especially electing Joe Biden. Especially Biden. we have to forgive ourselves for everything we did in 2020 oh yeah
especially electing Joe Biden
especially Biden
we should have given Trump another chance
we're giving him a chance on stage
you're right
now I think O'Mary would be
the perfect show for him
I think he would be so good as Mary
in a way
let's really actually dreamcast Trump in something.
So you're saying, oh, Mary.
Gypsy.
Gypsy.
Heartbreaking.
Heartbreaking.
Haunting performance.
Haunting.
Why did I do it?
No.
Why did it get me?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
I'm going to have to leave.
No, don't go. Follow me in the background. This is not a no. I'm going to have to leave. No, don't go.
Follow me in the background.
This is not a good time.
Who is that?
Who is that?
It's someone else.
It's an original character.
It's an original character.
Listen, there's a Patty.
Ronald Dump.
Ronald Dump.
There's a Patty-sized hole,
shaped hole in Broadway.
Yeah.
And he could fill that out.
Appeal to Patty now
to return to Broadway.
She is.
She is. Oh, she is. She's called the roommate. Her and
Mia Farrow at the Booth Theater.
You're kidding. She was just being like dramatic
about the quitting? You're kidding.
You're kidding. We love her. I love her to death.
Oh wait, sorry. You think women aren't
allowed to change their minds or
wait, what's this?
What I'm saying
is what you said
before you got on the episode which is that
women are crazy hysterical
and can't make up their minds
that's what you said
how dare you
I am gonna kill you
I wish you would
no airpods no dick
why should I keep living
yeah
great color for you by the way thank you That's no dick. Why should I keep living? Yeah. Yeah.
Great color for you, by the way. Thank you.
And they're popping.
Thank you.
And you did that on purpose, didn't you?
I did.
I did.
You're a warm tone.
Well, this is the other thing that I wanted to talk about.
Okay.
Color theory.
I really want to see one of those color theory people that like-
Who put the things over.
I know.
Me too.
I'm obsessed with them.
Me and Claudia O'Doherty.
Yes.
Love Claudia. Hi, sweetheart.. I'm obsessed with that. Me and Claudia O'Doherty. Yes. Love Claudia.
Hi, sweetheart.
Great legends.
Go to bed.
We really, sorry, people are probably like angry at my hoarse voice, but we really wanted
to see, there's this woman in LA who does the color theory thing, who was
the wardrobe supervisor
on The Nanny.
She has many Emmys.
She knows what she's doing.
But then we looked and the prices were like
Broadway prices.
Literally, I can buy half a ticket
to Oh Mary for that.
It was like $1,000
per
session. Or oh it was like a thousand dollars per um session or maybe it was like
there's i bet you there's someone who does that here right in new york city i know where you live
did they design costumes for the nanny i mean i don't know what to tell have you ever had that
done no i want to say but i was just watching an asmr video last night of course where they do it
of course you were.
I don't even think
I know what it is.
You get off on that stuff?
Yeah.
He does.
Splued all over.
Ew.
Splued all over himself.
Matt's classically
olive tone,
but I think that
makes him neutral.
So Matt,
that means you can wear
any color.
This is the truth.
I actually came here today
and I was going to wear
a yellow shirt.
I was going to actually
follow up on the Taylor Tomlinson episode.
Yes.
Where I said that I bought a yellow shirt at a museum and I never wear it because why would I?
I actually put it on today to wear it to this.
It looked good.
Looked at myself and said, this is not my color.
But you don't know if it's like, oh, it's the cool undertones.
It's the blue undertones of the yellow that don't suit you.
You probably do have a good yellow.
You probably do.
Can I say when I'm a little bit more tan, which is happening, it's in process, I can do yellow.
But this was not, we are not there yet at this juncture.
And then the step beyond that is like, are you a cool yellow or a warm yellow?
Right.
And I would never know what this is.
So I guess I have to do
this sort of test.
This is why it's dangerous
to be like for us
because we don't know
what we're talking about
and so for us
to just sort of
posit all of these
oh I'm yellow
I'm blue
I'm
it's dangerous.
You're so good with color.
Yeah.
We've all seen
The Apartment.
Thank you.
Not all.
Well it was in the pages of Vogue.
Oh.
What was that?
Remember it was in a magazine?
Apartment Therapy, I think you're thinking of, or The New York Post, or I don't remember.
I really don't remember.
You have a really good relationship with The Post.
Yeah.
I do, yeah.
Well, they reviewed the show.
Look, The Post has always been very good to me.
Yeah.
What's your favorite review you've gotten?
Probably the long one.
Because they said everything.
No stone left unturned.
They went there, honey.
They talked about the play, me.
Yes.
Like everything that you can imagine.
The play, me, everything.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
I'm thinking about it right now.
Do you feel like you can't wait to get back up there?
I am excited for a break.
Yeah, good.
That's healthy.
That's so healthy.
Thank you.
I think health is important.
That's one of the reasons I wanted to come on here.
Because I don't... The play is doing fine. fine. We don't need the press. Okay. I want to talk about health
because as queer people in the community, we're not healthy. We have a different relationship
from our upbringings to health that invariably does affect circumstances
and basically like human rights.
So true.
Well, when one of us is sick, we're all sick.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Should Oh My God be the title of ep?
We've got a lot of great ep.
I don't think so. I actually don of great ep. I don't think so.
I actually don't think so.
I don't think so either.
But thank you.
I mean, I think health is wealth at the end of the day.
Well, Bowen would know.
Oh my God.
We're back on this again.
We're back on this.
Since go.
We're back on this again.
We're back on this.
Guys, I'm going through a tough time.
Are you?
Let's talk about it.
Let's go there.
We'll be right back.
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And we're back.
Actually, it's probably what we'll put up for the break.
Before the break, Bowen
was going to open up
to us about
what he's going through. I would love for them
to just host this. Oh my god, please.
That would be amazing. Everyone would be so much
happy. What happened? Hillary Clinton,
what happened?
By the way.
What?
Say what you want about Hillary.
And I will.
And you will.
And I will.
It's a great title for a book.
Just in general.
What happens?
The book can be about anything.
It can be a cookbook.
And it doesn't have,
Hillary doesn't have to write it.
It can be,
anyone can write any book
and call it what happened
and it would be great.
No punctuation.
What,
before I want to hear about
the pain you're going through,
now you have to cast
Hillary and Trump
in a show together.
Oh!
Night Mother.
Night Mother?
Night Mother's good.
That's really good.
Who's mother, though?
I think mother is Trump.
Yeah.
Oleana.
Oleana.
What's that one?
Oh. I just know that it's a two-hander.
A two-hander? Waiting for Godot.
Waiting for Godot.
Waiting for Godot would be not
to watch with them. What about
Chocolat?
The movie. What about Amelie
the musical?
Which I did a reading of, so be careful.
With Pippa?
No, then it was Rachel...
Lee Cook.
Lee Cook.
Because it was going to...
We wanted to do like a sort of
she's all that,
Amelie sort of like,
hey, what about this?
Sister stories.
Sister stories.
We called them in the business.
Yeah, it's sort of like how,
you know,
Detroit is a sister city of like, I don't know, Paris.
Minneapolis, Detroit, the twin cities.
The twin cities.
Sister cities do be random.
Yeah.
You're like Shanghai and Des Moines?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's funny.
I find it amusing.
No one's laughing.
What is New York City's sister city?
Couldn't tell you.
Couldn't tell you.
At all.
Couldn't tell you.
You know what I just...
A lot of these cities
wish they could be our sister.
Well, you know what I just realized?
No.
The second city,
I'm telling you,
the second city is called that
because it's like known as like a second city.
You didn't know that?
No.
And then I understood
why there was also one in Toronto.
Famously also a second city.
Also a second city.
Sorry to everyone that lives there. I love Toronto. If I had to live in another city that wasn't New York, it would in Toronto. Famously also a second city. Also a second city. Sorry to everyone that lives there.
I love Toronto.
If I had to live in another city
that wasn't New York,
it would be Toronto.
Really?
Toronto.
Toronto.
Very cute gays.
All the second cities have cute gays.
They do.
Chicago and Toronto.
Yep.
I would say San Francisco.
That's not a second city.
It is.
If you're like consultants.
I actually do. I'm looking for a consultant
for what
I don't want to say a bad word
but one time a psychic
told me that
oh is this the psychic
that scammed you
no the community is very upset
this is a different one
oh Matt
who said that my
my husband is wearing a suit
well that could be anything
your husband is wearing a suit
it's the charlatan it's psychic it's made up it wearing a suit. Well, that could be anything. Your husband is wearing a suit.
It's the charlatan.
It's psychic.
It's made up.
It's a suit.
A hazmat suit.
Oh.
To get near that dirty hole.
Hey.
Ew.
What'd you eat last night?
Chinese broccoli.
Golly.
Hey, that's my people.
Chinese broccoli?
Yeah.
It's not actually Chinese, is it? That was very, very racist of you to say.
Even more racist than what you were saying right before you got on.
You came in here and you were saying a whole load of racist stuff.
Chinese broccoli?
Is that what the bats were eating in the wet market?
You said that.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did say that.
I did say that.
I was saying that while I was peeing to myself.
Yeah.
And I was...
And Bowen was right there. And Bowen was right there. And I was saying that while I was peeing to myself. And I was... And I was being...
What was that guy's name? Larry something?
Hmm?
Larry Craig.
Oh no, don't cut this out at all.
I think enough time has passed and that
guy, you know, his whole life was ruined.
Did he die? I think he is dead at this point.
Let's call bathroom cruising as a
closeted man, Larry Craig. Larry Craig-ing. Let's call bathroom cruising as a closeted man.
Larry Craig.
Larry Craig.
Have you ever hooked up in a bathroom?
Yes.
Yes.
Oh, and by the way, tell the story because I realized that I'm sorry about this.
We were doing our episode with Dua Lipa and you were telling the story.
I've told it many times.
You have told it before, but I did redirect the conversation in an irresponsible, annoying,
and very Matt Rogers-coded way,
and so I want you to take the floor.
Tell us about how you had sex in Madrid airport bathroom.
That's the story.
Okay.
Have you?
No.
I don't think I could.
Hygienically.
Get hard?
Yeah.
I don't think I could do that in a bathroom.
Yeah.
Because of the smells
or because of the awareness of other people's proximity?
I think growing up gay
Sorry
Oh no
No go there
This is good
Go there
I just
We'll be right back
I want what's best for everyone
Hold on one second
We're back
We're back
Okay and you were crying? I'm I don't know what's best for everyone. Hold on one second. We're back. We're back. Okay.
And you were crying?
I don't know.
I don't,
I just don't think I could.
No, sure.
Ideal place for an encounter?
Um, probably, um,
Country.
I want a country.
Okay.
Time of day.
I'm going to say Canada.
I'm going to say Toronto.
A hotel room in Toronto.
Okay.
We're being stupid.
We did not actually ask you to expand on Toronto.
What do you love about it?
What makes it an ideal place?
It's not trying to be New York.
Thank God.
No.
This is my impression of Toronto.
Hey, we're not New York.
We've got a couple restaurants have fun
let us know if you need anything
bring your kids, don't
actually don't
please don't
it's six of one
we've got a quote unquote beach
they do?
oh it's a lake
can I tell you something?
don't ever sleep
on a lake. Oh, it's a lake beach. Yeah. Can I tell you something? Don't ever sleep. Oh, I love a lake beach.
Don't ever sleep.
Claudia, wake up!
There needs to be a gay lake.
And there really is.
There is.
Yeah, there is.
Where?
Epcot.
That's actually rule of culture number two.
There is a gay lake at Epcot.
That is one of the gayest lakes but I'm saying
there needs to be like
lake house culture
for gay people
yeah
the Germany pavilion
at Epcot
I'm so mad
the most relaxing place
on earth
the Germany pavilion
at Epcot
go there
bring a beach chair
have a sauerkraut
and a fucking
pilsner
and a pilsner
honey
that's where I'm going to be all June.
For relaxation.
You're working.
Yeah, well, for Pride festivities, Epcot.
Well, Trump's going on the first week of Broadway.
Yeah.
Because Cole's still going to be in Epcot.
Cole, we keep trying to get you to come to Disney with us.
Well, you don't.
Yes, we do.
You never have.
Well, would you do it?
No. Yeah, I didn't think so. You don't. Yes, we do. You never have. Well, would you do it? No.
Yeah, I didn't think so.
You don't like it.
Being gay.
Growing up.
We'll be right back.
Okay.
We're back.
You just hate it on principle.
That's not true.
You can say.
BDS.
Wow.
I don't like you two together.
It's too much. I don't like you two together. It's too much.
I know.
I know.
It's too much.
Yeah.
Too much of what?
Calm down.
I agree.
Yeah.
No, I bet I would like it.
No, no, no.
You don't have to say that.
I think you would because I think you'd see the irony in the whole thing.
John Early and I once went to
Disneyland. Yeah. Well, that must have been
fun. It wasn't.
Why? But
Splash Mountain was fun.
And I wish, we both wish we would have just
like done it again and again.
Well, you can't anymore because they've
renamed it Princess Tati's Bayou
Dip. But it's the same.
You still splash.
Very much the same but they've taken out
everything that you love
which was the racism
and you were saying that
before you got on the mic
and they've replaced it
with Princess Tiana
because that's how
you correct
the wrongs of
the ills of the world.
Again,
I said this when I was
peeing to myself
as a joke.
And we were both
Larry Craig-ing.
And we were both
Larry Craig-ing.
I was looking for sex with closeted men.
Of course I was going to say that stuff.
Yeah, of course.
You were trying to attract people.
Yes.
Please.
Please.
Don't get it twisted.
I don't ever want to get it twisted.
Can I say something?
What?
I can't think of anything more embarrassing than getting it twisted.
A lot of other embarrassing things.
Truly, but like, what's more embarrassing than getting it twisted. A lot of other embarrassing things. Truly, but like,
what's more embarrassing
than getting it twisted?
What do you...
First of all, ouch.
How do you feel?
Just generally?
A lot better now, honestly.
Okay, good.
I was not in a good mood earlier.
And now I really am.
Okay.
I'm very happy to see you both.
Do you think you're gonna have
S-E-X with someone else?
Can I tell you something?
No. I did you something? No.
I did the thing.
Sorry.
I did the thing.
We'll be right back.
I did the thing where I over scheduled myself on dates this week.
So it's actually, I'm going to reveal, okay, that my guy canceled tonight because I'm going
on three dates this week with three different men.
Sorry, everyone.
I'm actually trying to find a partner actively.
I would like that for myself.
I recently discovered about myself
that I would like to be in a relationship.
That's great.
I don't think you're ready for one though.
I don't think I am either.
No, you're just not ready for one.
But being ready for it and wanting it
is two different things.
That's true.
Right.
Yeah.
Someday soon.
What do you think it'll take?
I think you two have to stop being friends. Yeah. Someday soon. What do you, yeah. What do you think it'll take? I think you two have to stop being friends.
Yeah.
Well, everyone's so intimidated by him.
True story.
It just, like.
I say, no, no, he's great.
I lie.
I go, no, no, he's great.
He's easy.
He's going to love you.
Yeah.
And then I go.
And then, old mother-in-law over here.
Nothing's good enough for her son.
The last two guys I've dated have been like,
I'm nervous to meet Bowen.
And I was like,
don't be nervous.
He's my best friend and the kind and the best person ever.
I was nervous to meet you.
Yeah.
When did you meet?
40 years ago.
40 years ago.
Well,
it obviously went well.
Y'all did all of Europe together.
Yeah. That was ago. Well, it obviously went well. Y'all did all of Europe together? Yeah.
Yeah, we did all of Europe.
That was 84.
84.
And Berlin was East and West.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
And we didn't know which was which.
And so I was trying to buy jeans and they said, we don't sell those here.
That was good.
That was a hilarious misunderstanding.
Yeah.
Well, you were just saying before
that you miss Germany the way it was.
That's what you were saying.
And you gave a specific year, too.
Cool.
Oh, my God.
We missed you.
There goes my Tony.
There goes my Tony.
Oh, it's a fucking shoo-in.
Thank you.
Do you see me get actually genuine there for a second?
No.
I said, we missed you.
Yeah, we did miss you.
Don't say that, though.
I'm sorry.
I'm embarrassed.
Do you not like to say hi to people after the show?
No, I love it.
I love it.
Yes.
Good.
Okay.
Because we didn't like go backstage or anything.
Well, there's not a backstage at the Lortel.
Oh, it's a theater moment.
It's like you have to come into the...
Everyone clears out
and the notables sort of stay behind.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The friends.
The friends.
Can I reveal at this point
that the opening night party
at the Lortel run,
the off-Broadway run,
was at Houston Hall,
which is a pretty very straight venue.
There were sports on the screen.
There were sports on the screen
and I thought that was kind of
the perfect, perfect touch.
I didn't see it the same way as you.
Oh, you were stressed out.
You didn't like it.
I thought, change the channel.
Yeah.
Totally, totally.
No one listened to you when you said that?
I didn't say it to anyone.
I just felt it.
You thought it.
But it's a big beer.
That was your biggest mistake.
That was your first and biggest mistake.
You know what would be fun to play at a bar?
Yeah.
What?
QVC.
I agree.
Oh my God.
Gay bars should be played.
QVC.
I 100% agree.
Yeah.
And that would drive business, which is what you care about.
Yeah.
The economy.
Absolutely.
Jobs.
Yeah.
Bringing jobs back to America.
All these companies.
There's nothing more American than QVC. It's actually roller coaster number 98. Yeah. Eight. There's nothing more American than QVC.
It's actually roller coaster number 98.
There's nothing more American than QVC.
Because it's a conversation piece.
You can talk about it.
You don't have to pay attention.
It's not like, oh, well, now Mamma Mia's on,
so I guess I'm going to watch it, which is what I do.
No, there is no through line to follow with qvc no no
actually in fact there is the absence of that completely which is why it's so great
peek behind the curtain to when i shot i love that for you the people that had to play the uh
on air people you just have to be always talking yeah you literally it was it's actually so funny
when you watch because they end up saying some crazy things sometimes just words together in like a soup that truly are just like and look at this
diamond pendant now i love this for graduations for funerals for you know and i and my mother
had a pendant and i always remember my mother especially now today because janine is gonna
turn around and you can see the pendant from the. It's like nonsense gobbledygook.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It's nothing, but it is everything.
If you can watch it on mute
and it still looks like things are happening,
that is the mark of success for that,
which I love.
And it gives you moments like the planet moon.
Oh, the planet moon.
Is the moon a planet?
Tell me you know about the planet moon.
Yeah, the planet moon, Liza.
Also, you know what's really wild?
Actually, they do watch second by second to see if the sales are going up and down.
And it does correlate to how charming they're being.
At any given time, there are a million plus people watching this channel.
And gauging second by second whether they're buying something or not
to the point where like it actually corresponds with the i guess salesman flopping or not i love
the economy you said that i love the economy yeah i love inflation yeah keeping up with those prices
yeah keeping up with the price yeah we gotta keep up with those prices. Yeah, keeping up with the prices. Yeah, we got to keep up with those prices. Raise them a little bit and then give us something to aspire to, you know?
Yeah.
Was that the big conversation at the Met Gala?
Can I get some water?
No.
No.
No.
No.
Don't bring them anything.
You like your job?
Is my lawyer here?
No, your lawyer's not here.
Who's your lawyer?
You want to shout him out?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
Elizabeth.
I bet she rocks.
Elspeth.
Elspeth.
Elspeth.
Have you seen all the commercials for that show Elspeth?
No, but I really want to watch the show.
It's supposed to be good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love.
Kari Preston is a legend.
Good wife.
Oh, yeah.
I didn't watch The Good Fight.
Me neither.
I should.
Christine's mad at you.
She is. Have you met her? No. Christine Baranski we're talking about I should. Christine's mad at you. She is.
Have you met her?
No.
Christine Baranski we're talking about.
No, she's mad at me.
Right.
Well, I think we can...
Because of all that stuff you made up about me, what I said, like...
I didn't make anything up, sweetheart.
It's so funny that you try to come here on what is our show.
Uh-huh.
Because even though we made a joke about you hosting it, it's our show.
That's really interesting.
Is it interesting?
It's interesting.
I-N-C-H-E-R-S-T-E-E-N.
Got it.
I think that
Archie Punjabi is having a moment again.
Thoughts?
Where?
Under the bridge.
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Wait, what is she doing right now?
Talk about Bjork Under the Bridge, though. I didn't go to Bjork Under the Bridge. Oh, you didn't. now wait talk about Bjork under the bridge though
I didn't go to Bjork under the bridge
oh you didn't
did you go to Bjork under the bridge
no
they were working
did what did she do a concert
she did it she did a concert
slash set under the K bridge
K bridge bridge to sort of insinuate that there'll be ketamine use under the bridge, which I find
to be... Now as an iconic sober person,
what do you think of that? I'm disturbed.
Yeah. Whoa, careful.
The table is making noise.
That's because Bowen is shaking.
He's humping.
He's like a dog. I don't
think
gay people and drugs
go together. I actually agree.
I think let's just put a
pause on it. Let's put a pause on it
until I figure it out.
What's going on? I need to get in there.
No, I'm busy with my show
right now.
If you and Trump swap places.
Absolutely. Come fall.
I just want to open it up.
Open the community up and look at it. Cole, if I want to like, I just want to open it up, open the community up and like, look at it.
Cole, if you were to put out like a missive to the community across the world and say, stop it with the drugs for like a month, people would do it.
I don't think they would.
I think they would.
These gays love drugs so much.
I'm going to do it in October.
Well then.
I'm going to do it in October.
Was there a favorite drug back in the day?
Just weed.
Yeah.
Just baking.
Just baking.
Waking up and baking.
We call it wake and bake.
And we were really fun
wake and bake
sucks
it was awful
it's really bad
I'm sorry
if you're a wake and baker
no I just feel bad
it was awful
it was like
no of course
no yeah
it's a huge
alarm bell
moment
yeah once it becomes
wake and bake
that's when you have to
stop and take uh huh a second to reassess and bake, that's when you have to stop and take a second
to reassess.
And I guess that's what we're saying to all
the gay community who's really the biggest
problem within the gay community is marijuana.
Marijuana use is out of control
in the gay community. These gays are too
stoned. Yeah, they M
out.
Have you noticed that
Taylor Swift has started to talk about weed a lot in her music?
Has she?
Yes.
In her music?
Say more.
Like, the Tortured Poets Department is an album about a chaotic, manic relationship,
and she references, like, always being, she was with someone that was always stoned,
my friends smell like weed, et cetera, da, da, da.
Oh, yes, yes.
You know what I mean?
I hate that.
I hate the word weed.
What do you like to say?
I don't know.
I don't like pot at all.
You know what I say? Reefer.
I don't care what you think.
Reefer, weed, pot, marijuana.
It's all pretty bad.
I think reefer is funny because it's stupid.
Green. Flower.
Never flower.
Yeah. 420. Never flower. Yeah.
420.
Bowen.
I don't know what that was.
Go to bed.
I've never seen you do that.
Go to bed.
Your tongue fell out of your mouth.
Bowen goes.
I'm sexual.
I'm sexual.
You were a sexual bully.
That was me rimming the air.
You're gooning.
Do you know what?
Eat ass.
Every now and then. You know what? I stopped. Yeah You're gooning. Do you eat ass every now and then?
You know what?
I stopped.
Yeah, good. Is that because you got sick?
I got, yeah, giardia.
I had giardia for like six months.
I was like, oh, I guess my stomach's just weird now.
This is a great story.
You'll want to put this in the book, okay?
And it's coming up right after the break.
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Hi, I went to a dietician for my acid reflux
and they ran all these tests
and they said here you need to poop in this jar
and mail it in
I said no questions
absolutely I'll do that for you
take my poop
hey you take it
and what they make you do is like put a bag, like a little, you tape basically a piece of paper onto your toilet seat.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
And you poop onto that paper and then they give you a little scooper to, I hope everyone at home is eating a nice big chocolate cake right now. And you scoop the poop and you put it into a little cup and
you mail that in to, I think, the government. And what do you think they do with the cup?
They lick it clean, mama. Again, I hope you're eating chocolate cake with your mama.
And if you are eating chocolate cake right now, it's poop. It's poop. Is it poop?
And, um...
Is it poop?
Is it poop?
Okay, so...
Then they came out
with Giardia.
So, well,
then I met with the dietician
and she goes,
um,
have you been
camping recently?
And I was like,
no.
I haven't been camping
since I was 12. What kind of weird question is that? And she was like, no, I haven't been camping since I was 12.
What,
what kind of weird question is that?
And she was like,
you have this parasite that is common with people who've maybe been
camping,
drinking contaminated water or from,
and does she get there?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I was like,
Oh,
and then, but so the. And then I was like, oh.
So the process of confirming that you have Giardia in order to get the antibiotics is like mailing in your poop.
And I'm like, I don't want to be mailing my poop.
I'm leaving that behind.
So no more acid in it?
2024, I'm not mailing my poop anymore.
I said, new year, new me.
No poop. I am not going to that mailbox
with a jar of poop.
That's completely insane.
Yeah.
I've had it before and it hasn't
stopped me.
It was horrible and I got it
on Fire Island and you saw me.
Yeah, it was bad.
It was not good.
Ew, you like watched him?
Yeah.
We shared a room.
No, but I watched you get your ass kicked.
Was I really?
No, you did not.
Don't tell them that.
They don't want to think about us like that.
No, I was insinuating
that you were watching him
have like explosive diarrhea. Oh, I thought you were insinuating that you were watching him have like explosive diarrhea. Oh, I thought
you were insinuating that I was watching him.
Isn't that funny? Were we sharing the bed
when I had to keep
getting up? Yes, we were. And we also shared the bed.
The only,
only, only time I've
ever, and it was bad. Like we
both had like growing up moments in that. The only time
I've ever blacked out. Oh.
From the 4th of July,
where like they found my wallet on the boardwalk
and it was this whole like community effort to get.
That was the only time you've ever blacked out?
Good for you.
Yeah.
Really?
I would say so.
I didn't really ever black out in college or high school.
Hmm.
You sound like you don't believe me.
No, I'm trying to go through the Rolodex in my mind
to think of times I've seen Bo and Yang sloppy. It was
so scary because I've never
had a black box in
the memory of like, oh, I don't remember what happened.
Well, we got you back the wallet.
Got me back the wallet. And
thank God because a lot of
fat credit cards. I hope everybody's listening to this
because this
goes back to what I was saying about health.
Yeah. You were saying that right before we got on.
Yeah.
You were saying you hope COVID comes back.
Yes.
Yeah.
Stronger.
Because like a gay.
Yeah.
It over promised.
And under delivered.
You think COVID under delivered?
Compared to what?
Compared to what? Compared to what?
Compared to what?
That's a really good question.
Season two of Veep?
I mean, you gotta be specific.
I know, I'm sorry.
I guess compared to...
Difficult people.
Okay.
Are you...
Yes.
Yeah.
Did you find something ever since...
Matt, come on, screw up.
You're right.
I shouldn't even go there. Did you ever find something since Downton on, screw up. You're right. I shouldn't even go there.
Did you ever find something since Downton Abbey
that you liked as much?
Yes.
What?
Gilded Age.
Coming up, I was always sort of like sidelined.
Like I was sidelined.
We're going to take a break and not come back.
We're back.
We're back.
The Waltons. I don't think I know that. Is that about. We're back. The Waltons.
I don't think I know that.
Is that about the Walton family?
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
They're a family named the Waltons.
It's not like the Walmart Waltons.
Because you were saying before you came on that you love Walmart and the family that...
I love their business model.
Like, why is that controversial to say?
They're doing very well.
And they're funding O'Mary on Broadway.
Why shouldn't I be proud of them?
And yes, they're funding O'Mary on Broadway.
And I'm very proud of them.
What they're doing is legal.
100%
Yeah, they're cutting corners.
They're underpaying.
It's legal. If you have a problem with them They're underpaying. Like, it's legal.
If you have a problem with them, take it up with your president, Joe Biden.
The one you both wanted so bad.
We did.
We wanted him so bad.
We really did.
Yeah.
We really did it.
I didn't even vote for him this time.
I wrote in...
But I will vote for him.
I wrote in...
Judy Garland. Trump. I wrote in Ivanka. You wrote in I wrote in Judy Garland
I wrote in Ivanka
You wrote in Ivanka?
Where is Ivanka?
She'll be hitting trail
Ivanka!
If she came out she was like
I have been wanting to be on this podcast
She's like
I want to talk about health in the gay community
I bet she does.
Yeah.
Jardia.
My husband has Jardia.
He can't get rid of it.
Jared.
Jay Kush.
We can't give him a cool name.
No, that's not cool.
Jay Kush?
Even Kush, terrible weed name.
Yeah.
I don't like that. Ganja Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't like that. Ganja?
What about Ganja? No.
It's bad. We really haven't come up with something good.
I think reefer is good.
Molly is so reefer. You think reefer is good?
I think reefer is funny. Who has reefer?
I love it. Let's go smoke reefer.
You love it.
Matt says it in a fun way
smoke reefer
let's smoke reefer
I got Jared
be saying it too
not Kushner
Jared Frieder
Frieder
Jay Fried
reefer
I'm looking at you like
I'm not sure
like I'm a crazy guy
like you're a crazy guy
I um
you love
what's it like
kissing James every night
gross
why don't you tell us?
Oh, stop.
Wait, we share a leading man.
We share a leading man.
We share a romantic interest.
Romantic lead.
I'm sorry.
That was my brain.
Not what it used to be.
It's okay.
I think it's getting sharper all the time.
I think you're getting smarter every day and stronger.
Yeah.
I gotta say, I love to read.
I'm reading books again.
We're taking a European trip
and Bowen described
the desire to
read.
And I thought that
that sounded so boring.
Yeah.
It's good for depression.
It was so,
it was really good for
the bad moment
that last summer.
Mm-hmm.
Was I, I was probably even boring you to death with it.
I was just like, I've been reading a lot.
No.
The thing is like you actually, and this is the scary part.
You did not seem different at all.
That is terrifying.
It's because he was lying.
Right.
It's because it was all lying.
It was all a lie.
It was for attention.
No, the bad moment was like in london and i was
like i have to go somewhere i can't be like i can't be here for i'm sorry i keep shaking the
table and then by this by the time i was in another place and i was among friends or a friend
it was like this is much better so you were lying or wait what are you saying yeah you were lying i
i was lying by the time you got there is
not is not real and you and you were saying that we'll be right sorry uh no we're back no you really
didn't seem that's terrifying that's terrifying do you talk to anyone no yeah yeah okay are you
both in therapy like for real yes with each other each other. You know what I just started doing? What? EMDR?
Uh-huh. Controversial.
Is it controversial? Yeah, it's controversial.
Well, I can't wait to hear everyone's opinion on it.
Can I just say, what I really
cannot wait for is for
everyone in our beloved community to tell
me how I should
be doing it. Well, no, but
I didn't mean to undercut.
What is controversial about it?
It killed JonBenet.
It was EMDR that did it.
Yeah.
Wait, why is it controversial?
I think it's just,
I think it's a relatively new form of therapy.
Oh, okay.
It's like,
there's a lot of debate around it.
And it killed JonBenet.
Wow.
Someone had to.
Matt. Matt. Okay, it's a comedy Wow. Someone had to. Matt.
Okay, we have to cut that out.
Okay, it's a comedy podcast.
Oh my God.
Okay, then be funny.
Shit.
God.
You said before you came on here, you killed her.
So what the fuck?
Oh my God, and the burping.
Remember that?
And the burping.
What?
What was that from?
The parents?
No, no, no.
The guy that killed his wife. What's it called? That documentary. And? The parents? No, no, no. The guy that killed his wife.
What's it called?
That documentary.
And then he was.
Oh, oh, oh.
The Jinx?
The Jinx.
No.
No, it's not the Jinx.
The Jinx or was the murder in Boston?
No, no, no.
That guy that like he killed his wife.
Uh-huh.
And then he was like in a bathroom on a live mic going pee.
And he's like, of course I killed him.
Oh, the jinx.
Yeah, the jinx.
Have you guys seen what Jennifer did?
No.
What's what Jennifer did?
It's on Netflix.
It's like truly the most.
It hits hard because it hits close to home for me because it is this Asian girl who felt so pressured by her parents to succeed that she.
Killed them?
Killed them.
So that hit home for you?
That's what you just said.
On the mic.
It wasn't like Cole
who said all the nasty things.
No.
This is on mic I'm saying.
No.
Not that I relate to her
killing her
wanting to kill her parents
or killing her parents.
It is this thing of like
she must have felt
like I
it's like y'all
if things did not go
a certain way
like I would have been I would have killed my parents.
No, I would have, like, been, like, in that, like, kind of, like, y'all.
You're saying you get it.
Yeah.
You could have seen yourself going down.
No, not killing her parents, but.
Oh, my God, this is so crazy.
That's not what I'm saying.
Everyone that watched the Mother's Day episode of SNL the other night that said, oh, look, Bowen's mom. That's not what I'm saying. So everyone that watched the Mother's Day episode that I sent out the other night that said,
oh, look, Bowen's mom.
That could have turned out really different.
I'm saying, I'm like, my life turned out.
It was so many things aligning.
And it was this.
No, I think what you're saying is very cogent.
I think this is good.
I'm not saying I wanted to kill my parents.
You're saying you understand the circumstances in which this is good. I'm not saying I wanted to kill my parents. You're saying you understand the circumstances
in which this girl did.
You're saying you identify with,
sympathize with,
and trust her to be president.
You want Trump on Broadway acting
and this girl president.
What Jennifer did was slay.
She was like a compulsive.
She lied about going to school
because her parents were like, it was so crazy. She was like a compulsive, she like lied about like going to school because like her parents were like,
like it was,
it was so crazy.
I love liars.
I do have to tell you,
last night I watched the Lisa Rinna Lifetime movie,
Mommy Meanest.
You gotta get into it.
It's good.
It's based on a true story.
It's about a mother who terrorizes her daughter
to like control her by texting her like horrible,
vicious things from
several burner phones.
This is based on a true story.
Lisa Rinna is just like,
I don't understand what's happening.
She's the mom.
She goes in her closet, sits down at her computer,
and just types.
These soap actresses are
so good.
The soaps really get people like Julianne Moore came from soaps. Meg Ryan came from so good. The soaps really get people,
like Julianne Moore came from soaps.
Meg Ryan came from soaps.
Who else?
There's like a famous,
oh, Margot Robbie was in Australian soaps.
Neighbors.
Yeah.
Isn't that what it's called?
Neighbors.
And I believe Chris Hemsworth was also on that.
And maybe even Kylie Minogue back in the day.
Kylie Minogue was definitely on a soap back in the day.
Yes, that's right. Shout out to Kylie Minogue. Just saw her in Minogue was definitely on a soap bat yes that's right
shout out to Kylie Minogue
just saw her in Vegas
that was a great show
oh congrats by the way
thank you
I rolled my eyes
I rolled them right back
okay
yeah
wait
isn't Bethany Frankel
in a Lifetime movie
yes
she is
and it's another thing
where it's like
I have a daughter
and it's weird
it's
they really are pivoting
to like it's me against my daughter.
Yes.
A lot.
And you know what was so bad about this movie was like, it literally just ends with Lisa Rinna.
Spoiler alert.
She just like gets caught.
Yeah.
And she doesn't even like change.
She's just like, well, I did it because I want us to be close friends.
Yeah.
And the daughter's like, you're a fucking crazy person.
She goes to jail for two days, gets out,
and then the daughter moves out.
That's it.
There's like no, there's no campy fight.
There's no anything.
I mean, it's Gypsy.
It's Gypsy.
It's Trump and Gypsy.
Yeah.
I think we found it right off the bat.
It is Trump and Gypsy.
Why did I do it?
Why don't I get me?
Hey, butter boom.
It's just kind of giving like, what's that bear?
Yogi.
Yogi Bear.
Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of giving Yogi Bear.
Brad Garrett.
Yeah.
Everybody loves Raymond.
That's really good.
That's really good.
Everybody loves Raymond.
Yeah, that's really good.
Why did I do it?
Can you do Patty Heaton?
Why do Kelsey Grammer and I get ostracized for being Republicans?
Uh-huh.
It's actually a really good question.
Why?
Why?
It's just their beliefs.
It's just their beliefs.
We'll be right back.
I'm sorry.
And we're back.
We're back.
Well, would you host a talk show?
Yes.
Because I,
I feel like Broadway is
over.
Well,
it's over,
but I feel like there is something.
You gotta be,
you guys gotta be careful
because this is my community now.
You're right.
You're right.
Broadway is,
I think for you,
is this fair to say?
It's like the goal.
It is.
It was always the goal
the secret dream in the back of my mind was always like
that's so cool
how do I get to Broadway
this could not have happened
everyone thinks I'm joking
oh fuck you
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that
ugly
I remember you saying this to me
and Celeste and Celeste and I were talking about it afterwards
oh that's so cool like it's amazing
I feel like
I thought every gay person was always
just secretly like wanting to be
on Broadway
don't you think a little bit?
have that dream
not quite as much as you guys but I think
yes I've like had like the flash
of the fantasy and honey honey, you will.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
For me, it's just like,
I don't think that's like...
Frost Nixon.
Frost?
The two of you.
That actually would be good.
I'm Nixon?
I think so.
I think you have a better Nixon.
I'm not a crook.
Oh my God.
Sly.
Sly.
Better than your Trump.
Oh my God.
Let me tell you something.
Who is that?
I can't wait to get to Broadway. Who is that? I don't know. It's tell you something. Who is that? I can't wait to get to Broadway.
Who is that? I don't know. It's sort of like
Who is it? It's like
you doing Fallon doing
Trump. But it's like a cartoon villain.
Like I can't
It's not Jafar.
It's almost Jafar.
To get back on track. It's
very cool that you're doing Broadway
and is the fantasy to stay there for the rest of your life. I would like to keep working on track. It's very cool that you're doing Broadway and is the fantasy to stay there
for the rest of your life.
I would like to keep working in theater.
Why just 12 weeks?
I work with a numerologist who,
she's very powerful, this woman.
Her shoulders are so broad.
You think it's because of the numerology?
Yeah.
She's got this kind of sexy kind of,
ooh, like,
yeah, she's got this sexy gait.
She just walks real bow-legged.
Yeah.
And I love her.
And she said, 12.
Yeah.
She looked at me and she said, 12.
Is it actually the goal for you?
Like, because I saw you talking about this on Stradio Lab.
Someone else would do it?
I would love for someone else to play Mary.
Really?
Yeah.
And would you want some A-list person to drop in?
I don't care.
I would want them to be good and funny.
My dream is Titus Burgess.
Oh, my God.
In a way that almost would make me be like,
wait,
maybe you're too good.
Don't,
don't.
It wouldn't be that.
It would be different.
That's what I was going to say.
But that would be good and like thrilling.
But like,
yeah,
imagine.
Yeah,
totally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I can picture how Titus's wig would be different too.
Like the stupid curls
Have you had so many conversations with people where they cast it at you?
No
Really?
No
Do you want to start?
Sure
I mean, frankly, you'd be great
No
Yeah
No, I wouldn't
But you don't think I'd be good?
As Mary?
Hey!
No, I'm thinking I think you'd be good? As Mary? Say no more. Hey! No, I'm thinking.
I think you'd be a good Mary's teacher.
Yeah.
You have the skull.
If I had to cast you in the show,
it would be as...
If I had to.
If I had...
Gun to my head.
Leading man.
Gun to my head,
I would just tell them to shoot.
But...
I would say, I can't
cast Matt in this show.
I would say, just shoot me.
But,
don't actually feel bad for me.
That makes it real, you monster.
Don't be like, this is my friend, breaking
down, crying, weeping.
God damn it.
You really are driving us apart.
I really, I
hate us together.
If Bowen's Mary, then I would want you
to be Mary's teacher.
But I can also see a world
where you're Mary and you're Abe.
I would love to.
See, I think I'm better cast as Abe.
You put all your little Asian guys
as Abe, don't you?
Yeah, you were saying earlier before on mic that you fetishized them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I do.
Not to put her, not because of Titus.
I didn't, it's like such a, within that circle.
But like, I think Krakowski.
I was just going to say like, John Krakowski.
Yeah.
I mean, oh my God, wouldn't Sedaris want to do it?
Absolutely.
Gosh.
That'd be amazing. She would crush.
But I would love to write
plays, I would love to keep writing plays
for other people to be in.
I mean, what's
very cool is that I think
it's like at this point you just get to do
anything and everything.
I don't know. Can we be
earnest? The industry is really
amazing. That's true earnest the industry is really amazing
that's true
the industry is really amazing
right now
yeah
everyone's really excited
and everyone
is happy
earnestly
yeah
no one deserves it more
yeah
nobody deserves it more
fuck
you
no
cause I'm not doing this
you this is
you are not the host
of this podcast
it's my podcast
and sometimes it gets earnest
thanks
I hate that word though
earnest?
yeah
deserve
deserve
oh sure
cause we all deserve
of course
everyone deserves
can I say something?
no
I guess
you are
you are
the sister you never had
you are whatever You are... The sister you never had.
You are... Whatever.
You know you're our idol.
Stop it.
I mean, it is perfect.
It's also...
I mean, watching the show...
It's the best thing that's ever happened to me in my whole life.
This show being produced.
And I'm trying to soak up everything that's,
that's happening right now.
Cause I know soon my turn will be over and that's fine.
All our turn.
We all get a turn and we get to the back of the line and we wait and we
wait and we wait and then we get our turn.
Well,
you got to get fast pass.
This is why you need to go to Epcot with us.
Oh my God.
You gays.
Cut every line.
Yeah.
Okay,
fine.
I'll go to Epcot.
Honestly, I, one Honestly, one day.
One day.
The next time we're on one of our eight-day trips.
Here's why I wouldn't go.
I don't want to be on a plane about it.
It's a three-hour situation.
I don't want to take a plane about it, you know?
But I don't want to go to the airport, get on a plane, be at the airport, get my luggage, all for Epcot.
Like if I was in wherever, where is it?
Virginia?
Orlando, Florida.
Exactly.
And if I was in Orlando.
They would love O'Mary down in Orlando, by the way.
You think so?
Of course.
Yes.
Liars, both of you.
I smell it.
I smell it seeping out of your pores, the lies.
The weed.
The weed.
The marijuana.
The pot.
You two pot smokers, I've had enough of you two pot smokers.
I've had enough of us too, to be quite honest.
But I would go to Epcot if I was in Orlando already.
All right, okay.
So we just have to figure out a way to trap Cole.
Get me in Orlando. In Orlando. Entrapment. Central Florida. have to figure out a way to trap Cole. Get me in Orlando.
Entrapment. Central Florida.
We can do it.
What's that face for? I don't know.
I don't know
if I can do it. I don't know about
like
really Florida in general.
What a hell of a drug.
But yeah, you do have to kind of
go there to go to Disney World. so that's I guess where we're
rubbing up it's just it's the plane
correct it's the airports
you don't like to fly?
I don't like it
it's very scary
because
growing up gay
I just like
I never got to soar
and to be that high like Like, I never got to soar.
And to be that high, like, it's like, everything.
It reminds me of like what I didn't get growing up.
And I'm sorry, I have to go poop really bad.
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Are you pooping a lot?
I do poop a lot.
That's good.
You poop a lot?
I'm a vegan
mmm
so all of this really
supports the idea
that I've had
which is that Cole
not to actually
earnestly
get on health
but I find you to be
very healthy
thank you for saying that
overall
it's one of my main
initiatives
going to Broadway
make Broadway healthy again
bring healthy back
bring health back to Broadway
people think oh capitalism's ruining theater because ticket prices to broadway make broadway healthy again bring healthy back bring health back to broadway
people think oh capitalism's ruining theater because ticket prices are right i think
we eat right we get the good eight hours of sleep we need yeah finances will catch up
do you sleep well because you eat well i don't sleep well you don't sleep well I stay up every night till 5am
seriously
yeah no matter what
what time do you get up
if I'm on my own
I'll wake up at
like if I have
nowhere to be
nothing
yeah
3
really
so you're nocturnal
nocturnal
always have been
does that bother you
that you don't see the morning
alright
yes
what do we do I don't see the morning? Yes.
What do we do? I don't know.
Birding. Birding?
Birding. Like when poop comes out? This has been a thing.
This has been a thing with phones. Oh, you want to like go
look at birds? I've thought
about that because I need a hobby.
It's actually... Do you bird?
I've started to. Do you have an app?
I have an app. Merlin is the one
that the Cornell
Institute of Ornithology
or whatever
like they have a department
oh they're really
problematic actually
well because you're
the president
you were saying
before you got on
yeah
and it's been your mission
yeah
to problematize
to kill the birds
oh my
kill the birds
tuppence
that's
very well I mean it's interesting because that's that feeds into my I don't think so kill the birds tuppence Barry?
well I mean
it's interesting
because that's
that feeds into my
I don't think so
you sang
that song
at Queers Live
I did
oh that was so fun
it means a lot to me
should we do it again
we should do it again
it means a lot to me
that you came to the show
thank you
it really means a lot
what if we did Queers Live
at like Radio City Music Hall
yeah let's do it let's do it tomorrow actually we did Queers Live at like Radio City Music Hall? Yeah, let's do it.
Let's do it. Tomorrow? Actually, we were
offered a show at this other thing. Maybe
we should do Queers Live. Maybe we should do that. That's fun.
That could be really fun. In Orlando? In Orlando.
And then that's when we get ya! Yeah.
If you can get me to Orlando for a gig,
I'll go to Epcot with you. Okay.
But really quickly, I've gone birding
for just like
curiosity.
So much fun.
Where do you go?
The parks?
Prospect Park, Vale of Kashmir.
So literally like historic cruising spot, but it is the best spot for birding.
It's so funny.
Sure.
Yeah, my husband said that too.
Peckers about.
Oh, honey, I was just looking for a bird.
Next thing I know, I've got Jardia.
This character is
a caricature.
Yeah.
It's so fun.
Get a nice pair of binoculars
and then you go
in the mornings
and it's all these old...
How much were they?
How much were they?
The binoculars.
Go ahead.
I actually bought a mid...
They were in the way of a phone
you bought them.
No, no, no.
I bought a mid price.
I mean, they do go crazy.
I bought like 80 bucks.
Oh my God.
They were only $300.
They're expensive.
Yeah. I bought one for 80 bucks and then... But They're only $300. They're expensive. Yeah.
I bought one for 80 bucks
and then,
but then you go there,
it's all these old women,
but the activity itself is free
and the old women there are-
Old compared to-
Okay, all right, all right.
You gotta be careful
with these words.
Boomer.
How about that?
Generational.
You can't, okay.
Are they stupid
is what I'm saying.
In a group.
Well, it seems like
there's a lot of walks.
There's like a queer birding group
and there's like,
you know, like whatever, like different- Queer birding group like a queer birding group and there's like you know like whatever
like different
queer birding group
queer birding group
it's already redundant
redundant
but
and then there's like
all these like guys with cameras
but it's like nice
it's like you get all types
and it's free
and then cameras
guys
ugh
god
that makes me so horny
I love guys with cameras
I love
oh my god
to be lensed
and it's
it's just four different people
telling you like
there's a scarlet tanager today.
Oh like they're like pointing it out to you.
Or it's like they're politely being like do you see there's
a there's a nuthatch today. It's so sweet.
It's very sweet and you go I heard
I heard. Leave me alone.
Leave me alone. No no no it's not even that and then
I'm sorry looking at
a bird up close in the binoculars
in 3D space as the light's hitting it,
it is like incredible.
And it sounds more healthy than like gambling.
Totally.
But it feeds the same impulse.
It feeds the same impulse.
It's like, I want to win.
I want to catch the thing.
And it's like, all you're doing is looking at a bird.
You're looking at a bird and then you think, who's that going to hurt?
Exactly.
It's really nice.
If they want their privacy.
It's one of those things,
it's one of those hobbies
where I'm like,
why the fuck do people get into this?
And then you do it once
and you're like,
oh, I get it.
Promise.
And it seems like
it would be something fun
to add to traveling.
Like if you're traveling
and you're like,
ooh, I'm going to see
what kind of birds they have here.
A big yellow.
A big yellow.
Oh, the big yellow.
Oh, I went to Canada
and I saw all the big yellow.
I'm genuinely excited
to do that when I go.
This would loop back around
to activity I can't do
because of colorblindness.
No, I'm colorblind as well.
You actually are?
I am.
It doesn't matter.
I can't tell the difference between green and brown a lot of the time.
Neither can I.
Yeah.
It's because you're red-green colorblind, right?
Same.
So when I was a kid, I would color the tree.
Sorry.
Okay.
I would color the trunks of the trees green.
Yeah.
And the leaves brown.
And I would get points knocked off.
Yeah. Minus two.
And there were only a few points.
And there's only, yeah, like ten points.
My sister, I used to think she had
green hair all my life.
Because she had brown hair and it looked green to me.
I thought peanut butter was green.
I probably still do, to be honest.
Blue and purple, impossible.
Same.
Sometimes weird ones like orange and green. Have you ever worn those glasses? Yes, to be honest. Yeah. Blue and purple. Me too. Impossible. Same. Forget it.
Sometimes weird ones like orange and green.
Have you ever worn those glasses?
Yes, but they're a scam.
Oh.
Don't you think?
Oh, really?
I've never tried them.
Oh, they're a scam.
I was going to say like, oh, that would have been a fun thing for us to do today.
But they're a scam.
Honestly, we did a Secret Santa and my one friend got me those glasses and it ended up
being like, I put them on and I'm like, well
if this is what everyone sees normally
it's hell. Yeah. And
I just thought, because you know
those red glasses? Right.
I just saw like red.
Like I didn't see anything. No.
New. I wonder if
they bought the cheap ones or something.
I mean certainly. Who is this friend?
Name them. Chris Schleicher.
Chris Schleicher.
Oh, Chris, you cheap bastard.
Totally.
But also... He got me like a set, though, at the same time.
It wasn't the only gift.
He got me like a shirt.
What is it?
So you're a spoiled little...
Your daddy's spoiled little brat.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
Always have been, always will be.
Yeah.
Never will change.
Never will grow.
I love a brat.
I love a brat. It's so fun. Mary. I love a brat. I love a brat.
It's so fun.
Mary's kind of a brat.
I love, yeah.
Total brat.
Total brat.
Total brat.
Bratty girl.
Bratty girl.
I'm a brat.
I know that about you.
Yeah.
They demanded a very nice hotel room.
Did they?
In Amsterdam, and I gave it.
Yeah.
The Sofitel?
Sofitel.
Sofitel.
Did we get breakfast the next dayel Sofitel did we get breakfast
the next day?
no we did
we did
yeah
great breakfast
I love breakfast there
I think maybe my favorite city
that I've been to
is breakfast
is breakfast
Amsterdam
breakfast is great
Amsterdam
London's great
keep naming cities
well
I like
I forgot the rest
I loved Bruges actually, I like, I forgot the rest. I love the Bruges,
actually.
I like California.
Oh my God,
this is going so south.
I love Atlantic Ocean.
It's time for
I Don't Think So, Honey.
Just before,
our friend really
embarrasses themselves.
Oh, I'm in a cave.
I'm doing a thing
with a cup.
Golly.
I'm in a cave.
It's a visual medium.
You look silly.
We got cameras
since you've last been on
now
this is
I don't think so honey
one thing hasn't changed
one thing hasn't changed
we still do this
god damn segment
okay
I don't think so honey
we rant and rave
against something
in pop culture
that's not so great to us
no
and I had an experience
this weekend
and I would like to talk about it
okay
tough couple days
for my girl.
This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so honey,
his time starts now.
I don't think so honey
if you show up to a theme party
and you don't have anything on
that's the theme.
Maybe they're coming from work.
And it's, no.
Did I tell you something?
Stop it.
Okay.
Because I haven't even been in,
I hadn't even been doing that for 10 seconds
and you sided with all of them.
And that says a lot about what's going to happen
going forward. You're going to side with them
outside of this dynamic. And I
agree with Cole. I'm sick of us.
Because if you're going to keep doing this,
I'm seconds into my I Don't Think So.
I'm doing a really good one that no one's ever talked
about before, which is that as a theme
party, people should dress the theme.
And you undermine me.
Just sit there and count down how
much time i have left during my time how about that i'm sick of you at a theme party let's say
the theme is new year's eve i want to see a couple hats and glasses please for christ's sake because
i show up if you do that again then we're gonna to have a huge problem. Five seconds. This podcast is over. I agree.
I don't think so, honey.
That's one minute.
Now, wait, hold on.
Was the theme New Year's Eve?
Because that's fun if it's not.
It was Tom Nye's birthday party held at the house of Tom Nye and Matt Whitaker,
and they had a New Year's Eve themed 30th birthday for Thomas.
And I show up, and I don't know if everyone is too cool
but no one was doing the theme
and I looked silly in a white jacket,
fun glasses, and
a vest.
And I'm the only one dressed
for the theme and then I get
looked at once over by everyone and I'm like
it's the theme.
See if it's a party and gay guys
are there and they once over you...
Give me a break.
Get out. Stop it.
It's like, I'm dressed perfect
and y'all just look like you put a flannel on
and rolled out of bed.
You're on your way to Animal afterwards.
I get it.
They're ordinary.
Everyone wants to look their best for Animal.
The sip and twirl of Brooklyn.
I want to apologize to you.
That would be appropriate, I think.
I'm really sorry.
If you were offended.
You almost had me there.
Girl.
Almost had me thinking.
I'm really sorry for interrupting you.
I didn't mean to do that.
No, that's okay.
You were right.
I don't mean to bring up past, you know.
What?
Oh my God.
Did I interrupt you?
That's just what the viewers love.
Equivalent injustices.
No, 100%.
You know.
What happens is, Cole.
What?
Sometimes I get over-caffeinated for the podcast and I get excited.
Yeah.
And especially when we have a guest that I'm really excited to talk to and really like into.
Yeah.
I will often do the most to say the least.
But can I tell you, I don't mind.
And people seem to think that I have a problem with you like kind of like getting over enthusiastic.
And it's like, that's what I love.
And I really don't care.
Yeah.
It's called a podcast, bitch.
When they go for Bowen, I'm like, why are you infantilizing Bowen?
Like, I'm just like, like.
I'm a child.
To them, it seems like infantilizing Bowen like I'm just like I'm a child to them it seems like
it's like Bowen Yang
if Bowen Yang ever thought
that I was out of pocket
I have heard it
and I would hear it
and I would think
that that's something we share
Bowen loves diapers
wearing diapers
we were talking about this yesterday
me, Josh Sharp
Max Wittert
at a party
and we were saying that
people we just want to try one day where we're in adult diapers.
Just to see what it's like.
Because the models on adult diapers are just, the way they cast models for adult diapers is so amazing.
Because it is these people.
Well, I've been in those rooms.
Oh, yeah.
Well, and you never booked.
Right.
But it's people who, and this is why you didn't book.
It's because it's people who look happy, healthy.
And now you look better.
But back then, you probably looked really gaunt.
I was drinking and trying to get work as a diaper model.
And that was my low.
That was my rock bottom.
I was hungover, you know, lost my phone, lost my wallet.
I would show up to these castings, put on that diaper.
It's, you know, me and Geena Davis up for the same spot.
That's tough.
And she's, you know, the picture of health.
Yeah.
The picture of health.
Academy Award winner.
Academy Award winner. Going to be very believable on the diaper.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
It's just Thelma.
Yeah.
But then, of course, neither of us got it because that's how this fucked up industry
I'm sorry
I gotta say it
well I have to tell you something
she booked it
they just
they replaced her
with the coke bear
they put the coke bear
over her
the cocaine bear?
yeah
yes
from Elizabeth Banks' movie
but can I tell you something?
what?
now with this play
world's your oyster
it really is.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Wait, you really,
but you want to wear,
like, would you wear the diaper,
like, in life,
like, under your pants?
In life.
Like, just walk around?
Just to walk around.
Would you pee-pee?
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
If you're going to wear it,
use it.
You might as well use it.
I don't know if I would poop, though.
I think I would pee all over myself, but I don't know if I would poop though I think I would pee all over myself
but I don't know if I'd
poop on myself
but we just wanna try
one night at the club
listeners are gonna hate
this episode
it's so much poop
I just tell
I'm telling you guys
right now
I have to say
you brought it up
it would be right in line
with how they felt
about our other episodes
recently
so that's actually okay
alright
I have something yeah Ivan I don't. So that's actually okay. All right. I think I have something.
Yeah.
I haven't,
I don't think so.
Oh,
that's great.
And this is,
oh,
not three missed calls.
Oh,
Oh God.
That's like always a little disconcerting.
You know what I mean?
I can wait.
Okay.
Well,
uh,
where are they from?
I'll never know because it's like random numbers.
It always gives me a little bit of anxiety.
No,
no,
no.
Okay.
This is Bo and Yang's. I don't think so, honey. And it's time starts now. I always gives me a little bit of anxiety. No, no, no. Okay, this is Bo and Yang's.
I don't think so, honey.
And it's time starts now.
I don't think so, honey.
Pills.
You want me to put what?
Where?
In my mouth?
Here's what my mouth is for.
Smiling.
Saying a nice compliment to a friend.
You look amazing today, both of you.
How are you going to get better when you get sick?
Sucking.
Fucking. Rucking. Fucking.
Rimming.
No.
Not for swallowing a little rock that might not make me better.
It might actually make me feel worse.
This mouth is exit only.
That's right.
Nothing goes in.
If I have my druthers,
if my perfect day is if nothing goes into my mouth.
If only stuff comes out like a funny joke, a word.
15 seconds.
Vomit.
I'll say it.
Just kidding.
I need to eat.
But pills make everything a vaccine.
Or actually, I would love a microchip in me if you could just download a cure to the brain.
That's one minute.
That was a mess.
That was perfect.
That was a mess.
Well, it seems like that was polarizing.
Let me tell you something.
I'm going to get emotional.
Go there.
If you get sick, you better take pills.
Because I know it's been very tense between us today.
But if anything ever happened to you, I would not be able to continue on.
And I'm not going to let Cole
get between us.
You really have Drifted Wedge.
By the way, we now know
Bowen Yang eats with his butthole
and vomits with his mouth.
Oh, yeah.
I'm trying tonight.
Desperately out here.
Okay.
Okay.
I like this dance.
Okay.
Worming. Now it's the anus. Let. I like this dance. Okay. Worming.
Woo.
Now it's the anus.
Let's warm up our bodies.
That feels good actually.
Relax.
Roll our shoulders back.
Do you do little warmups
before every show?
I do.
That's good.
Conrad really has taught me
a lot about
That's a pro.
He's a pro
about like
protecting
and yeah.
He's not even like
actively teaching me. I'm just like watching
him going like this is cool here's how you
do cat cow that was so
mean that was so mean Matt
yeah I'm racist
that's a Tagalog thing
yikes you better cut that
you better cut that
can I say in a real way yes
what happened with realized love at the Tonys?
Truly.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Isn't that weird?
Thank you.
It was so good.
I guess an overcrowded season.
Was it though?
Or just like a lot of shows?
I don't know.
It was such a beloved show.
It was so good.
It was so original.
And then I was like,
when I saw that it got almost nothing,
I was like, oh, maybe it wasn't eligible. Maybe it was last year and then it was like when I saw that it got almost nothing I was like
oh maybe it wasn't
eligible
maybe it was last year
and then it was fully eligible
it was eligible
but you know
it's like
summer movies
how they're like
less likely to
get nominated for Oscars
people didn't remember it
yeah I guess
or I don't know
that's the only explanation
I can think of
yeah yeah yeah
like it just was like
totally blanked across the board
pretty much
I was like
that's so surprising.
Yeah.
So this is actually going to be Cool as Skolas.
And they said that it has to do with Feed the Birds, Tup and Sabacc.
Yeah.
Something along those lines.
Another Mary.
Yeah.
Very interesting.
Well, this is Cool as Skolas, I Don't Think So, Honey.
And their time starts now.
I Don't Think So, Honey.
The scene in Mary Poppins where they go to the bank.
The movie is six hours long.
It is.
That scene comes in at hour five.
Right.
Takes up another hour.
They get a song.
The men get a song.
And I understand the point of that scene is to be boring to show like, oh they need Mary Poppins, this is boring
30 seconds
you know what, thematically
have that scene have no music
you know, it's Mary
brings the music in, and for that matter
no music before she comes in either
okay, you know
except for maybe the
children dancing to show that they want
music, you know because when was the last time you watched Mary Poppins? You know? Except for maybe the children to show that they want music.
Yeah.
Because when was the last time
you watched Mary Poppins?
I watched The Returns.
No, but this isn't...
No, it's been a while.
You haven't watched it
because you're scared
of that bank scene.
That's what I'm saying.
And that's one minute.
You're so right.
And can I tell you something?
Yeah.
The whole arc of Mary Poppins,
that movie,
is like,
not to bring drugs in again,
it is like,
it's all a come down after they go to cartoons.
Yes.
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your teeth hurt and you're like, oh my god
why did I smoke all that pot?
She's a drug addict.
Why did I wake and bake?
Why did I wake and bake and fly in?
She was like,
so fucking stupid and Mary Poppins is
so fucking dumb.
Racist.
You were saying before, just like every woman.
You said that before. Mary Poppins is so saying before just like every woman you said that before Mary Poppins is so dumb
just like every crazy
hysterical woman
now
I'm so mad
Julie Andrews
drag her
Julie Andrews
can fuck
can fuck
I bet
you know what's crazy
what
is she has fucked yes and you know you think about Julie Andrews and you don't fuck. I bet, you know what's crazy? What? She has fucked.
Yes.
And you know, you think about Julie Andrews and you don't think about fucking, but then
not everyone has seen Victor Vittoria.
Her whole career after Sound of Music was, I need to like, let go of this girl.
I think she made a movie with Blake Edwards where she was like, topless.
She made several movies with him.
Right after.
And there's a lot of subtext in Princess Diaries about how she's a nymphomaniac.
I don't think so honey can i coin a phrase i don't think so honey that was the kelsey well now now it's done now it's done now and now i just feel silly about the whole i don't think
something though yeah i think today this podcast and you guys are back.
Thank you so much.
A lot of people are going to say that. We've had a fallow period.
I'm not even kidding. A lot of people are going to say
they're back. You guys are back.
And I want you to be friends.
Earlier, I wanted you guys to not be friends.
Can I tell you something? There's nothing you could have said
that would have come between us.
Really?
That really made me scared.
Really?
Really?
What do you know?
Well, should I?
Don't.
Yeah.
Don't.
That's the dichotomy, Bowen.
Don't.
Me.
Yeah.
Did I?
No.
No, I really just, I was worried and now I'm not.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I hope this episode inspired confidence.
And I hope it inspired.
Period.
And I hope it inspires.
Go see what? Wicked?
Oh Mary. Go see Wicked the movie.
And Oh Mary on Broadway.
How do you think Wicked the movie is going to be?
Pretend he's not here.
Oh, I can't wait.
And I've never seen it on stage.
You've never seen it on stage?
I think he would like it on stage.
I know I would.
I know I would.
You gotta go.
You gotta go.
It's that thing where I forget that you can just go.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You absolutely can just go.
In fact, I'm like, I don't have tickets.
I'm like, oh, you get tickets.
You get tickets.
I was going to say you should go tonight, but it's Monday and famously they're dark.
It's always dark.
Except O'Mary will not be dark on Mondays in the summer.
Wow.
Perfect.
Perfect.
So then when are you dark then?
Sundays.
You did tell me this.
Yeah.
That's so genius.
Is that strategy?
No, Conrad's like very, very, very, very religious.
I'm kidding.
I was like trying to search my mind
to remember if that was true
no way
it's deeply not
deeply not
he's such a heathen
oh yeah
he really is a heathen
he believes in
like upending
all social norms
yeah
chaos
yeah
this is a Judeo-Christian
podcast by the way
so we have to
sort of
float away from that
yeah
you did inspire me
to go see
Hello Dollar League
by myself
wait
where?
because when
Bernadette was on
oh yeah yeah yeah
I think you and I
had a conversation
I was like
I gotta go
I never went
I couldn't afford it
at the time
it was like
I could not get tickets
and couldn't afford it
and I feel so
fucking crazy
that I didn't go see that
I feel that way
about Patty and Gypsy
yeah I couldn't afford tickets
at the time. You know what's weird? I saw a
matinee of it and
at the time I was like
she was marking and I felt
crazy thinking that but like
I think she was.
Laura Benanti crush.
I can't imagine doing that
eight times. See and that's why I don't go to
matinees and it's no shade and't go to matinees. And it's
no shade, and I'm sure everyone does. But
I also think that the performers know what I'm talking
about. You know what I mean? Like, you're not giving out a Wednesday
matinee. When I see a play, I see it on a Thursday
night. Oh,
great. Why do you think Thursday night is the
best? I am always like,
oh, weekends, that's too many
shows. They might be tired.
Tuesday, they're just coming back.
Yeah.
Wednesday, sometimes they have a matinee
and then they have an evening show.
Thursday's perfect.
So Thursday is right before that weekend show.
They've had enough time to, you know.
But now, having done several weeks off Broadway.
When do you feel strongest?
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
It really doesn't matter.
Like some days I'm like,
oh my God, that Sunday matinee was amazing. days i'm like oh friday night it really is like so then
that's how patty was i i mean listen yeah it's patty i i don't need to be convinced at all like
i was just like oh i think because i was with my family i think and at the time like always but we
were being sort of like you know cognizant about
how much we were
spending on it
they were like
oh let's go to a
Wednesday matinee
or whatever it was
and I remember
leaving being like
oh I wish that
that could have
lived up to
what my little
gay brain made it
which was
absolute roaring
performance of a
lifetime at all times
it could have been
the audience too
it absolutely could have
how do we love you
one of the best how do we love you we want you to live we want. Hattie, we love you. We want you to live.
Corky, we love you. We want you to live.
A line that we quote all the time
from Waiting for Catherine.
Corky, we love you. We want you to live.
It's so funny. Catherine O'Hara would be
a great Mary. Oh my god!
Oh my god!
So would Parker.
So would Parker. Oh my god. would Parker So would Parker
Oh my god
I mean
But she's off doing
White Lotus right now
No she's not
Oh
She was fired
Today
Oh my gosh
Chaotic behavior
Oh no
Personal differences
You're kidding
Guys I'm kidding
Okay April Fool's.
You know what I love to say?
What?
You're kidding.
You're kidding.
You're kidding.
Oh my God, you're kidding.
You can do it so many different ways.
No.
I'm auditioning for you
because I really want you to want to cast me in the show.
You want me to cast...
You want me to want you as Mary.
No, that's not what I said.
No, I don't want that.
And I don't think I'm right for it. No, yes, you are. I think, yes, you are. No, that's not what I said. No, I don't want that. And? I don't think I'm right for it.
No, yes, you are.
I think, yes, you are.
Yes, you are.
And the right casting
is me as Abe
and Mary's husband.
No.
Not gonna say it.
Cool.
Whenever I get auditions,
I'm always thinking like,
oh, Gideon Glick
should get this.
Oh, Matt Rogers
should get this.
I feel that way
all the time.
Yeah, but actually less as of late.
As of late, I'm kind of like,
hey, I'm in my bag.
Like, I actually have a big audition this week,
and I actually think,
no, I don't think there's anyone that could do it like me.
Wait, but I don't think you will get that one.
No, it's too soon.
It's too soon.
Yeah, you're right.
You're not ready.
It's too soon.
It's too big an opportunity. I only too soon. Yeah, you're right. You're not ready. It's too soon. It's too big an opportunity.
I only just started.
Yeah.
Well, listen.
No, you have to kiss a lot of frogs before you kiss.
You sure do, queen.
You sure do, queen.
We are three neophytes here.
Am I too mean?
No.
No.
Okay, okay.
You're not mean enough.
I love being mean.
This is Broadway, baby.
Broadway.
You watch your back or you wash your mouth?
You know what?
I'm actually at work.
I'm upset for you.
Why?
Well, actually, no, I'm not because you're going to have Sundays off.
Yeah.
This is a real thing.
You have to go see The Sunset Boulevard with Nicole Scherzinger.
Wait, is that coming here?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Sundays.
I'm telling you, I went in the West End.
It was so great.
She is perfect in it.
The concept that they went for, Jamie Lloyd, really good.
It's an all-queer cast, right?
I wish that were so.
Right?
Just because they were gorge.
It's all-queer cast, right?
You're kidding.
It's Queer's Live.
It's Queer's Live, right? Are you making... You're kidding. It's Queers Live. It's Queers Live, right?
It's all queer.
That's what I was talking about.
It's like a fully like queer crew.
Everyone on the team is queer.
Is AMAB.
AMAB.
What's that?
Assigned male of birth.
Bowen is the face of AMAB.
I'm the face of AMAB.
Wait.
But something I do want to say
is I need everyone to buy tickets
to Bernadette Peters on Fire Island.
Wait, oh, is that happening?
That's happening.
I need everyone to buy tickets
so that they add a Sunday show.
It's on a Saturday.
But I think maybe it already is sold out.
It's on a Saturday in June or July.
But that's what they did for Patty last year.
They sold out so quickly
that they decided to send a show.
I'm like, maybe Bernadette wouldn't want
to add a second show, but I would,
I'm dying to see her.
Look to the camera.
Make your plea. Mom.
Dad. Add a day.
Add a day.
Add a day.
Add a day of Bernadette Peters
on Fire Island.
Growing up. I'm sorry
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
yeah
that would be amazing
yeah
I mean
we saw Patty
I saw her twice
I saw both nights
oh yeah you were there
you were there that weekend
I don't know how
who got me in
I bought the ticket
for the second night
the first night
I bought tickets
I need to know
what day it's happening
because we're
you gotta go we're gonna be there that June well Bowen day it's happening because we're going to be there
that June. Well, Bowen's working all of June
but I'm going to be there. Doing what?
People's Court? Yeah.
Oh, you would be great as like
a judge on one of those shows.
Well, he's not very fair. He barely
even let me get me through my I Don't Think So Honey.
But you have to be more entertaining than fair.
Right. You're so right.
And if there's one thing Bowen is, it's entertaining.
Entertaining.
Yeah.
As in making,
you know,
dishes.
He's going to show
his butt in a movie.
You hear about this?
That's why I've been
going to the gym.
You're going to see
squats.
Ass.
Squats and hip thrusts.
I've never seen
my butt hole.
And keep it that way.
Because of the hair.
Because of the hair
and but just
it's the color.
Is it real hairy down there? Producers are puking by the way because of the hair because of the hair and but just it's the color is it real hairy down there
producers are puking
by the way
all the producers
are puking by the way
they're all fired
all fired
um
we have to end
the episode I believe
oh no
because there's
but I just wanted to
read a book
for you guys
instead of
instead of
us ending every episode
with a song
can you end the episode with an excerpt from a book?
Yeah.
Okay.
Success is counted sweetest by those who ne'er succeed.
To comprehend a nectar requires sorest need.
Not one of all the purple hosts who took the flag today
can tell the definition so clear of Victor A.
As he defeated dying
on whose forbidden ear
the distant strains of triumph ring
agonized and clear.
That was J.K. Rowling.
Yes.
Speaking about trans rights.
Bye. Bye.
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five-year-old Cuban boy, Elian Gonzalez,
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Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.
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We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists.
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