Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "An Honest Conversation”

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

Two lil bros are absolutely on their Charizard in this episode of the podcast Las Culturistas, and an honest conversation is had. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay, so here's the deal. When was the last time with Darcy? We were in person for Darce. But this is a very distinctly different vibe because Matt and I are sitting in this beautiful table in our wonderful home. In our quarter share home in Fire Island in the Pines. The address is. Two, two.

Just kidding. Leap that out, Doug. We don't even have the team. team we don't have it we don't have the team here oh my god this feels like well no we've never done this without the team this is our first time flying without the fucking wheels without the what like that the wheels flying without wings flying without you know what's interesting you started the conversation we started talking and you said i can't believe the love I see. And that called to mind Jordan Sparks, who famously in the song This Is Mine Now, she said, I can't believe the love I see. And then when you said Flying Without Wings. You said Flying Without Wings. Ruben Stutter.

Recalled Ruben Stutter. But don't change the subject. You got nominated for the Emmy. And I'm very grateful. I've never been prouder. Girl. The way tears. The way tears were streaming. Or streaming all over the sandy

beaches of Fire Island. The way that I felt true love for everyone at SNL. Specifically the people who crafted that show. The crew. the cast, the writers, you can't live without them

you can't live without the writers and can we say the scream we let out when we saw the words Aidy Bryant Trill, Aidy Bryant Trill, lead actress outstanding lead actress, I had to scream my ass can we say deserved? oh please, the subtlety

the grounded the comedy, the comedy. The comedy. The show had its best season. The show had its best season. And that story is so, so, so, so, so perfect and hard to tell in terms of them wanting to do it in the grounded way that they wanted to. I mean, like, that show, you watch it and you do feel, I do feel very comfortable. I'm like, I'm there in Portland. I'm in a fantasy version of Portland. You feel that you're in Portland the entire time you watch it and you do feel I do feel very comfortable I'm like I'm there in Portland I'm in a fantasy version of Portland

I feel that I'm about to go to Poc Poc to eat a delicious meal say that say that sayville that this is a bit we've been doing that's sort of I think on the lower ends of the bits should we catalog the bits for the readers

well I just want to say that this morning just to sort of lower ends of the bits. Should we catalog the bits for the readers? Well, I just want to say that this morning, just to sort of do one of the bits, I would say this morning, my rose was seeing that my sister got nominated for an Emmy because of how hard I know that you work and how much of a star you are on that show. And you are, it is history. You are the first featured player ever to be nominated.

And that is my rose. And my thorn is being snubbed. I was snubbed and it's disrespectful. And Hollywood owes me an apology. And it's my thorn. Oh, I will. My snub is the greatest snub of this year. Do you agree?

I agree. And if I see. Have my back. And if I see anybody in the television academy, including you, I'm going to fight you after this. Girl, we are throwing hands tonight. And that's my thorn.

See me with them nominated hands. I'll fight your snubbed hands. And I would say my rose of this conversation is the love I feel for you. And my thorn is the fact that you're going to fight me and I know that you are an ugly person inside. My rose has been feeling

so supported from you this entire time that I've been here. Truly as soon as I saw your face, I lit up. My thorn has been every time that I've been in the presence of you, I felt the need to violently attack you for the way you transgress, for the way you voted against yourself in a way. Can I say that my thorn, my rose rather, has been that I genuinely feel like I've gotten closer to

you on this trip. And I didn't think it was possible. And my thorn was when i got closer i hated what i saw i'm so disgusted i'm disgusted i'm disgusted with your behavior do you want to know something i did last night though that we i had not done in our friendship ever what was i helped you fucking three sheets to the wind i carried you you really wait i really now I'm sort of remembering what went down on the beach. I was wasted. You were, you fucking fell so beautifully. It wasn't like a bad fall,

but your hat kept blowing off your head. And I said, Matt, don't wear the hat on your head. You should hold it. The dexterity of your hands will help you hold on to the hat. And you wouldn't listen as usual. But then you tripped over yourself

and you really made a meal of it. You really made a meal of the fall and said, I can't go on. I did not think I could go on. I also want to say like, it's so crazy really because I think Pride Weekend was what it was.

And then the 4th of July, we had a time, but you were not present. I was not there. What was, how was your, tell me how your 4th was it was amazing I don't remember it because this week I have cracked

in half I'm telling you I have been raging every night and if anyone on this island wants it they've gotten it or they're getting it that's beautiful I don't think you've I would not frame this I wouldn't use this language that like you've been broken or that you've I would not frame this I wouldn't use this language that like you've been broken

or that you've cracked like I have I told you the I think less than 24 hours ago I was like I was like you are in the rarest form

and I have never I truly did not think I could love and admire you more as a friend and I do I'm telling you and I mean this

it's your rose it's that's my rose and there is no thorn that's a huge for there to be no thorn. You know what I think is... We're looking at roses, by the way. We're actually looking at... We're looking at, we can say, sort of

a tacky table. A tacky table of fake roses. And also, oh my god, we sort of are seeing some of the girls come in and out. Patrick Rogers, aka House, he just scurried back upstairs, but the house is at... We have a wonderful... Future guest of the show, Patrick Rogers, is just kind of is at, we have a wonderful. Future guest of the show, Patrick Rodgers, is just kind of walking around.

We have a wonderful assortment of sort of a coterie. I think the coterie is strong this week. It's a good group of people. It's one of the best groups to be in Fire Island. To be in Fire Island. And that's on period.

And that's on period. And I would stack this house up in a fight yes with the television academy or otherwise well certainly with the television academy who fucked up this morning i don't even know who's nominated for the host who i don't know i'm guessing rue paul yeah needed a ninth emmy i don't know watch the show hot dog watch the i deserved i'm not even this is like like this is i am kidding i don't i'm not kidding matt like shut the fuck up no you you were you were the reason why people watch that show you and you facilitated dozens of people watched it stop

you facilitated such a beautiful tone and environment for that show. And it was really my first, one of my very first like comfort watches during, during quarantine, like post summer. I was like, okay. Like in the winter,

which was when I needed it the most in the winter of 2021, I needed that show. Well, listen, the Christmas special. I love, I'm saying the fall into winter and the cold months of new york city i needed those blankets and anyway you were fantastic well anyway listen

because i know how hard you work and you work fucking hard bitch you know what i will gas you up i will shout out my girl robin deedy i would say the black robin shout out we got the noms can we can we actually acknowledge some snubs though? Let's talk about the snubs. Z-Way. Z-Way was snubbed. Z-Way was snubbed.

Girls 5 Ever was snubbed. Except for Meredith Tardino was nominated for screenplay for the pilot. Renee Elise. Renee Elise, Paula, Busy, fucking Sarah, snubs on snubs. Tina Fey for guest star.

Name another legend that could play Dolly Parton in this manner. You were snubbed for guest star. Name another legend that could play Dolly Parton in this manner. You were snubbed for guest actor in the comedy for Girls 5 Ever. And I'm so upset at the Television Academy this morning. But here's something we can talk about

for future awards seasons. I love this for you. Oh shit, I forgot about my own good news. I will never shit i forgot about my own good news i will never let you forget about your own good news what are you doing i'm gonna light a blunt light a blunt you deserve it matt rogers's show his pilot that he filmed i love this for you starring vanessa bearer molly shannon mama mama mama puna patel puna patel we got a Patel. We got Aiden Mayeri. We got fucking Paul James. Love her. And an actress to be named later.

But I'm so fucking excited. Congrats to the team and the cast and the crew. I mean, are we... Look, I know it sounds like a typical showbiz circle jerk, but I think this is another instance of, wow, talk about people who work fucking hard. Vanessa, Jeremy Byler, you I fucking love them

can we talk about the fact that Jesse Klein is show running Jesse Klein icon inside Amy Schumer icon her book iconic book of comedy essays truly one of the superior ones ooh we love Jesse mama the way Michael Showalter directed the film

Michael Showalter put respect on the name I'm standing there in one of the name. I'm standing there. I'm standing there in one of the scenes, and I'm like, there's Molly Shannon. There's Vanessa. There's Michael Showalter. I'm like, what is going on? You've earned it.

You've worked for that bitch. You really have. I'm going to be a Showtime diva. And I can't wait. You and Z-Way. You and Z-Way, baby. You, Z-Way, and William H. Macy. And William H. Macy,

darling dear. The funniest man on television. Funniest man on TV. The funniest show on television. Ooh, I love... We can also say because we're going to be real. A lot of these nominations are flopped down. A lot of category fraud happening.

Well, first of all, I don't think we have to name names, but a young girl went to Paris and got nominated for Best Comedy Series. And we're going to have to say oop on that one. Yes, that's all we can say unfortunately because it's too overwhelming

to think about otherwise. But of course, congratulations. Congratulations. As I sort of ash on the white table. Oh, we were talking about the table setup. It's a tacky. It's a tacky table. There are elements of the house that are tacky.

I would say I like the high ceilings. Love the high ceilings. Love the sort of simple, clean lines that are then broken violently by driftwood beach signs in the bathroom and in the kitchen. Yeah. With your typical like... Live, laugh, love type.

Yeah, exactly. We were told billionaires have once stayed here. And I say that's a lie. And I say this is a case for the FBI. Also, we're here with Josh Sharp and Aaron Jackson who are upstairs sort of napping. And I will say this. The damn landlord really tried it.

Really tried it. We didn't have power for the first I think 36 hours. Not because of the hurricane, because of the flop behavior. And we have to say entering this house Oh, is it one of our kings? It's a girl's fight of a writer

Matthew Whitaker who's brought in a case of Diet Coke he's bringing in sort of a case of Diet Coke looking absolutely stunning how was the gym sad the gym was sad

the gym was fire it was sad and dark as usual you know that basically what's been going on before you got here it was really

because when he first hit the island it was like you could feel it was like a seismic shift so sort of everyone would see our group approaching and you see all their eye go directly to him 100 and how could it not my eye goes to

him all the time honey my my eye wants my eye sneaks out of the damn house to go to him my eye scurries to the beach to see him on it um no i I mean, a stunning man. Sometimes I just take photos of him when we have lunch. He doesn't know. Is this true? Yeah. I've told you that, right, Matt? That sometimes when we have lunch, I just take pictures of you? Yeah, well, now you know. I did tell you that, liar.

What did you say to me? No, I'm not interested in the dick and balls. I'm interested in digging into that ass. Anyway, no, I'm just kidding. I'm really respectful. And we love his boyfriend, Tom. Should we talk about your overall, because I will say, as I said earlier, I've never seen you more in your element than here.

I am so happy. But I'm also, talk about how you are sort of self-defining right now, because I feel like you are really enjoying your time. And it makes me so happy that you are fully experiencing everything leading with your joy, which is so infectious. But do you feel like a changed person at all? That's kind of what I'm getting to.

Can I tell you what it is? It's a combination of anytime I'm around my literal number one, who I, and my rose of my life is being close to Bowen Yang. My thorn is that one day one of us is going to die first. And that is going to be really shitty after. And I just feel like...

You can't make me think about this. No, I really hope it's me. I swear to God. No, it's got to be me. Because I can't live through it. I will mourn the greatest loss anyone has ever mourned. Do you ever do that thing of like, and throughout our

decade plus relationship, I know you've probably done this, like the people really close to you in your life, if you ever like are alone with your mind for a second and you think about if they ever died. Oh no, no, no. I thought about if you ever died one time and I broke down. I literally I had to lay in the bed. I was

like, I even just thinking about the grief I would feel. I was just the bed I was like I even just thinking about the grief I would feel I was just like I am leveled I'm leveled I will cry I've had moments not when I've thought about my friends dying what would that be like but I've thought

this is an honest conversation this is Las Culturistas an honest conversation let's put a pin in that because I do want to talk about I want to explore how we arrived at this concept of an honest conversation. But I have had multiple moments that I can so vividly remember. Just us, you and me walking down the street, sitting in a room, no one saying anything to each other. Clucking like hens in the hen house.

Clucking like hens in the coop in the hen house. I turn to my friend Matt Rodgers and I think to myself, anything to each other. Clucking like hens in the hen house. Clucking like hens in the coop in the hen house. I turn to my friend Matt Rodgers and I think to myself, I wish everybody had this, a friend like this in their lives. Girl. I want this for everyone in the world. You're pushing me to the edge. Honey, you've been teetering at the cliff. You have pushed me to the edge of the cliff.

Oh, you've been at the cliff, dear. And I, can I say? You are Mufasa. So this is the deal. This is the edge of the cliff. Oh, you've been at the cliff, dear. And I, can I say, so this is the deal. This is the answer to your question. Long Island for me is the cliff. And so when I'm here, I find myself walking all the way up to the edge of the cliff. And then I go to Fire Island and understand it's the closeness to the ocean. It's, it's, I'm Pisces, rising Pisces, cancer moon. So it's water, water to the ocean I'm Pisces, rising Pisces, Cancer, Moon

so it's water, water, water, water so here we are sort of surrounded by water as is want to do on an island that's a rule of culture we're surrounded by water as is want to do on an island and so what rule is that?

what number? 58. It's rule of culture number 58. Okay. So when I'm here, I'm sort of soaking in and absorbing like sort of the angst, the sort of difficult nature of

growing up here slash how much fun I'm having and also the crew could not be stronger. Oh, the crew is stronger. And it's about energy and it's about, it's about, you know, sort of being a fun succubus. 100%. To each other.

Here's, let me illustrate an analogy. Let me know if it makes sense or if it doesn't. And I will. You coming into Long Island in order to get here is this is this is the motion i'm tracking okay you're going you're you might feel like you're regressing a little bit you're going you're moving back in time oh this is i'm revisiting an old version of myself and then you get but then as soon as you come here to the island, to Fire Island, and you feel the sense of relief, it is so powerful. That force propels you forward, not back.

It's like a slingshot. You had to get pulled back first in order to fucking barrel ahead to the person that you were meant to be. I think that is what is happening. And the people and the vibe and the weather and all those other things. Wonderful. But those make the slingshot shape. And you are going the greatest distance. And also just, you know, alcohol, marijuana, all the girls. We shout out to everyone.

But it has been, I think, my favorite Fire Island trip. And we've had some good ones. We've had some great ones. I've had some great ones and this really is up there. Let's say this. You were not here the first night, but the drag that we have seen, Jan Sport leveled

our gay ass collectively at the pavilion on Thursday. I heard nothing but rave reviews from everyone on the island about the vocals are not a joke. And also. And the jokes. She's got jokes.

And like, we were laughing. We were gasping. We were just. You gotta see fucking Jan Sport. Okay? You gotta. And she's not being done justice on All Stars 6. Okay?

I know she had the big win. But she's not being done justice in the totality and the totality but overall she she does not come off looking bad no she comes off like jan sport which i mean people should just get over i don't know what that means because you know what i realized no no no it it means it means the leah michelle energy but that but you guess what about Lea Michele? Can sing her ass off. Can sing her ass off.

But here's the thing. This is what I realized when we were watching. So then I came in the next day or the day after and we went to Tina Burner. And we're going to get to Tina. We're going to get to Tina. But I mean, that is a drag performer. There can be drag artists, drag, drag models or whatever. Drag fashion.

The way you're dragging right now, but you're absolutely right. But, but, and drag Queens or like if you, if you want to go pageant, it's like, there are different,

like, you know, lanes to drag. We all know this. And Tina burner, like, you know, like it has like her wonderful,

wonderful legacy on the show show but you go and see her live and it's completely out of the orbital of that completely it's a drag queen it's a drag performing perform i mean like not in the terms of like performance and like the general conceptually but she's on a stage entertaining she's an entertainer and we're laughing constantly also i just want to say jan sport like drag queen pop star doing that like well i guess rose as well yes but and but has the appreciation for comedy in a specific way like stand meg salter like since the beginning like you know i fucking love jan we're gonna shoot jan you're coming on jan you're coming on um because you i mean i i fucking love jan i'm jan i'm so sorry i

missed you but then let's talk about tina well can i yes t then tina on friday fucking evening or was it saturday it was uh sunday it was sunday that's another thing you guys like cracked cracked in half i don't know what i don't think you're cracked i think you have it's good it's fine It's like very good. Evolved, yeah. It's like I became like the Charmeleon version. I think I was already the Charmeleon. I'm certainly not the Charizard.

No, I'm a Charmeleon right now. I think you're on your way to Charizard. Well, that just means I'm old. Honey, sister, look at me. I am. I think you're in your Charizard era. I think I'm on my Charizard right now. If the title of that didn't have to be an honest

conversation it would have been your Charizard era oh my god I think you're in your Charizard era Charizard era honey it can be so powerful it is so powerful I'm telling you

and I'm just gonna say I mean pl plowed. You've been getting plowed. And I do think like that, that does, it gives you like a jack when you really get fucked. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'm so happy for you.

I'll be thinking about this guy. Yeah. You're going to, you're going to be using it. And I'm going to say, I'm going to say on the phone. While I was getting fucked. Yeah. He said the to be using it. And I'm going to say, while I was getting fucked, he said the words, Lil Bro. And wait,

and reader, if you're thinking, oh, that's awful. No. Think about it. I was like, think about it. Oh my God.

I literally, it worked. So I don't know what to say. Can I tell you? It's Long Island. You told me that and I was like, whatever.

And then the more I thought about it, I was like, no, it's the hottest thing I've ever heard. No, if you told me that, and I was like, whatever. And then the more I thought about it, I was like, no, if someone called me little bro, whatever the dynamic is, whatever's going on, I don't care if we're like 10 feet apart while we're both naked. If you call me little bro from across the room, even, I will. I will orgasm. I'm telling you, what it did to me, it's like Marion Cotillard's Oscar speech

it was life thank you life, thank you love Olivier D'Aul, what you did to me you rocked my life you truly rocked my life I I

I'm speechless now thank you life thank you love and it is true there is some angels in this city and when he said little bro to me during sex that was you rocked my life

that was Mario I was doing the Oscar speech in my head which of course made me come and it is true. There is some fire. There is some fire on this island. And it happened down by the river. Wait, that's iconic.

And we need it. We've been coming up with great catchphrases all week, but that's a new one. It is true. There is some fire on this island. There was some fire. I mean, let me tell you, the fires were burning. I was transported.

And also, like, you know I'm not out here, like, bottoming. I know. I know. But there's a, something has changed within me. Something is not the same. Wow. I have to also remark, the in-person energy. Different.

Fuck the Zoom. I'm sorry. Fuck a Zoom. I mean, we need it. We're going to keep doing the Zooms. But fuck a Zoom because this is unbeatable.

This is unbeatable. And even though, you know, we're going to hear from the girl who is that engineer, Doug. Doug. And she's definitely

going to be like, hey, you know, 24 seconds in, there's a full boat in the background because right now you can hear a boat. We're so sorry. We're on an island. And it is surrounded by the water as they

are wont to do. But anyway, what I'm saying is you know that that's different. And this energy, this is... I'm clocking it, girl. I'm clocking it. We might have to be... I'm traveling. I'm carrying. And I'm clocking it, girl. I'm clocking it. We might have to be... I'm traveling.

I'm carrying. And I'm traveling to New York City, first of all, more often. More often. Because, I mean, that's just something too. It's just like,

and now the shock, the New York shock is worn off. You got to be here. Oh, and I fully believe that you are an LA queen right now and that you've really settled into that city and that environment

and you have your support system and you're thriving. We have Patrick Rogers. House is talking about moving here and I'm not even stopping him. But here's the thing. Well, this is the thing. This is what I want to say. You have figured out the balance of those places. On your

Charizard era, it's all about balance. It's all about truly flapping your wings, wagging your tail that's on fire and roaring to the sky you are

you are doing you have figured out your identities in both places in both environments and it's really beautiful to see

I think that not everyone has that I don't I mean you know it well I'll just you know what

let's just get a little real. It's an honest conversation. This is an honest conversation. It has kind of sort of been a hard year. Like personally, identity-wise, like, you know, in terms of relationships in my life, things have been up and down. Of course.

And like, honestly, just, you know, we have to have moments of clarity such as this. And we thank the moments in our life that are a little bit more emotionally chaotic because when you do emerge from said era, flop era. Flop era. It's so true.

We literally said in our new artwork, we're going into our flop era. And then I really truly do think for a few months there at the beginning of the year, we were in a flop era. You and me? No, no. I'm'm talking about i don't know how you feel but your energy got much better as the year went on and at the beginning of the year i was flopping january to um beginning of april i was very much at a very low point and i that's what i'm saying like when you were emotionally at a low point we call that the flop era that is the flop and so

now i feel like literally here we are sitting here on our charizard and and we are obsessed because you have an emmy nomination and my goddamn show is going and it's fun to celebrate the good things it's so fun to readers readers hey readers this is the thing if you're going good if you're going through a shitty time right now we're with you we've all been there in some fashion. It will not be defined by your trauma. But when the stuff is good, you gotta celebrate it.

I gave a little, this is an honest conversation. It's an honest conversation. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome.

And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her.

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My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem

going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. The lovely folks at iHeart asked me to write a little commencement speech for the class of 2021. I might have briefly mentioned this. Yes. My i kind of like i wrote this i wrote this thing out like very quickly and i kind of read it back i was like this will do and at the time i kind of rolled my eyes at my own speech but like basically what i was saying was just like celebrate

this when that's like the only thing that matters because after you leave like a structured place like school life's not going to tell you it's like it's never going to give you any opportunities to like really genuinely just like be happy for yourself yeah you have to make your own checkpoints at a certain point and therefore like you you create your own benchmarks going forward like should i have kids like oh i i can't be happy unless i have a kid or unless uh i'm in a relationship or unless i have this job or thing that i want like that's when shit starts really fucking, that's when you got to really tend to your own garden. Because after,

after you graduate, it's like you, you never really know when to like get out the confetti. That's actually really, I never thought about how going to school, they really do set like that is a, that system sets up celebrations regularly. Yes.

And so, and so yes, my speech was like, celebrate this now, but give yourself chances to like, keep like triumphing very silently to yourself in your life, even when no one's around or, or whatever. And I don't know,

does, am I making any sense? That makes perfect sense. I smoked a little weed. I mean, this is, we are, we're hungover.

We're stoned. But here's the, here's the deal. As you were saying that, you know what? I was laughing in my head and heart because I was like, do you remember two weeks ago when we were on our toxic shit? Oh, we were being toxic. Guys, readers, I think that every word of that episode, we stand by. But we also know we were in, there was the depths.

There was the depths. A snake had bit us. We had to suck the venom out. A hundred. And that was us sucking out the venom. And we've emerged as new people. And we stand by conceptually what we said in that episode. But also, like, we were not those people forever.

No, only for an episode. Only for 90 minutes minutes and here we are sort of hydrating first of all and hydrated because we're in our what charizard shit and well you have to really be careful when you bring water around charizard but that's a whole other conversation that i don't think we have time for today um but one thing i will say is that it's never been more clear to me that you have to hydrate because it's like when you come to a place like a vacation spot and you are, in essence, raging. When you pee, you're like, oh, that doesn't feel right. That feels heavy and hard.

Mom, there's crystals in there. I just know it. And so in order to avoid a situation where you pass a kidney stone and dear sisters of mine have had this happen to them. It's not a day in the park, to put it mildly. And you must be drinking water. It's rule of culture number three. You must be drinking water. It is one of the most important parts of survival. Wow.

Food, water, shelter, stream confetti. Come on. It's rule of culture number 18. Food, water, shelter, stream confetti. Let's talk about music. Let's get into a talk about music. I don't really, what's worth mentioning? Girl, I mean, just the,

can we say who's really taken over the trip? Robin. Robin has really taken over the trip. Robin, we love Robin. Sade has taken over the trip. The mood setting that my sister was capable of the other night. When Sade was out and we were on this bay and we were sort of, and by the way, we have to get to the grill.

Oh, wait, we got to talk about the grill because I got to shout out my sister, Matt Rogers. Wait, I didn't know I had power of grill. Oh, you were fantastic. It's part of, it's in my blood, I think. Picture this. This has happened to me. And I did, I did think to myself, this is, I'm so just purely happy right now.

We're on the bay. There's a grill outside. I'm with my friends. None of us can cook. We've got a lot of meat. And then I said, I'm going to give it a shot. And then Josh Sharpe says, I think you're, I think you're a grill daddy, man. And you said, I don't know about that. And you're like, I know. I genuinely have a shot. And then Josh Sharpe says, I think you're a grill daddy, Matt. And you said, I don't know about that.

And you're like, no, I genuinely have a feeling. And what did you do that night? You put out the meats, you flipped them, you gave them the perfect char. One of the better burgers I've eaten. I have to yet again

celebrate myself on my Charizard grill skills because guess what talk about fire talk about fire can't even cook without it i hence the charizard hence the charizard oh and then so on top of it all to bring it back to music yes the 1985 album classic promise by shaw day was playing and and reader let me say perfect chill summer evening vibe if you want one while you're doing the dishes while you're cooking while you're cleaning while you're doing laundry what oh it's so whatever you're doing i honestly feel like this is like qvc energy like we are selling shaw day to the audience and the readers are

going to be like baby we know we've as the kids say been new we've been new about shawday about shawday i was saying yeah i was um i'm just laughing because i i did not expect us to get this deep into shawday and robin when i kind of was expecting i i honestly can i tell you something can i be honest i was like i wanted to i wanted no i'm dragging myself okay i wanted to transition into music and talk about new music that's come up. But then I was like, wait, I'm dragging myself. I was like, wait, what? And also, we kind of already did that

with the Doja Cat of it all last episode and two episodes ago. I'm sorry. And why not celebrate the music that's out now? Well, Doja did make an appearance this morning. Doja made an appearance this morning. We actually did sort of do the Doja wormhole

because sometimes you are wont to do that. Absolutely. And also, we should also shout out the ladies of the morning show. The Apple TV Plus show that we have been putting on when we want to wind down. And when we watch it,

some of the lines, some of the dialogue sort of is so shocking like when jennifer aniston who's a famously one of the two big stars of the show calls the whole room of men bozos bozos and then says america loves me so i own america and we got a couple of, are you done? And just, we said Jennifer Aniston is stepping on the neck of that script. She is straddling it and riding it. She says, you don't run

my day. I run your day. And I really, I came in I've never seen it before. You've obviously seen the whole thing. It's camp. It's camp. I'm literally during that boardroom scene with I've never seen it before. You've obviously seen the whole thing. It's camp. I'm literally during that boardroom scene with Jennifer Aniston, I go

from the way the shot was framed, I was like, this is very Mommy Dearest. This is very like Faye Dunaway in the boardroom. Yeah. Right, Mommy Dearest? Bury that. Pep Scola. For sure enough, it basically turned into that scene

where a woman is yelling at a turned into that scene where she's, where a woman is yelling at a room full of men, how she's the shit. And so I'm like, oh, this is actually knowingly perhaps camp. I would argue that it is, although some,

then it gets so we've, I think we've talked about it. Cause I think I've told you on the show that I have fully gone through it with the show and that you've enjoyed and that you enjoyed it. Well, the first time I tried to watch it, it was, I was like, what is going on? Because it does take itself seriously,

but also is that? Right. And it kind of needs that in order to be true camp, like reveling in the bad taste, but kind of still allowing some degree of like, this is actually, I'm taking this serious. And once you settle it, once you, this is actually, I'm taking this serious. And, and it's done.

Once you settle it, once you, the audience member, the reader, if you were settled into that, then you go on the journey and you end up. And I remember I watched it with my parents. I watched the whole thing with my parents.

This is like the fourth time I'm watching it again. It's insane. What is, I don't know. So my dad at the end of the last episode, literally his eyes got wide and he said, wow, that was great. Great.

I was like, I agree. It goes there. It goes for it. And you're going to continue to watch. I will continue. Because it's been on during our Fire Island trip. We're not raging and stomping, sort of twisting and turning on our Charizard. The morning show has been on sort of lulling us into a

stupefaction. I will say just to paint a picture. Our fire Island house is very much just like, let's just like sit by the pool, do stupid bits, drink, and then we'll go see. We got to talk about how to let us invest.

We've sort of, and we didn't know. Okay. So sorry, put a pin in everything we've done because it's disrespectful that we Gotta talk about How to Let Us Invest It. We've sort of... Did we talk about Tina? Okay, so, sorry. Put a pin in everything we've done because it's disrespectful that we sort of dangled the Tina Burner carrot and then just simply moved on.

Yanked it away. Tina Burnter. Killed it. Her mixes were so funny. So funny. Dancing down, hilarity, drag queen. Don't disrespect. Do not disrespect.

Because you know why? You don't know anything not disrespect because you know why she like she's also like on another level and like she's actually been through this probably insane thing of like being on the show she seemed unbothered she seemed genuinely unbothered by it in a way that felt

I was jealous of I was like oh that seems so healthy that like you were able to just go through the apparatus of how that show presents you as a person and come out the other side being like, oh no, it doesn't matter. I'm still doing my

work as a drag performer and doing it so well. And this is my thing. This is what I wanted to say earlier with the Jan seems like Jan. I'm like, no, Jan is just a great queen.

And anyone who's on that show is, is at the very least a great queen. Cause it's like, we see like drag artists, like in every city at every level, like in every sort of style or, or, you know,

like background. And it's just like, it's not to lump them all together, but it's like, there's validity in any kind of way no i'm actually doing the opposite i'm not lumping them together because there's validity in every kind of drag and if there's a drag queen who can sing and do musical theater numbers and like all that shit then great if there's a drag queen like fucking busted who

wears the same dress and wig at every single gig she's done for the last two years, and does the Zatarain's jingle as one of her numbers, then that's valid and amazing too. It's more than just valid and amazing. It's transcendent. It's important. It's never before seen. It's crucial. Unafraid to reference or not reference.

Unafraid to reference or not reference. Eat it, snort it, fuck it, lick it up, give birth to it. Another club. Another club. Another club. Train. Another club. There could be a hundred people in a room, it fuck it lick it up give birth to it another club another club another club train another club there could be a hundred people in a room and only one so i feel like dude but am i making sense about you are making perfect sense like basically it makes no sense to compare what it

is is let's say it drag race makes you think you know what good drag is and you don't you actually don't because you have fun for people who are like I only see Brooklyn Queens or I only see the Hell's Kitchen Queens it's like it don't matter it don't matter it never damned it

it never mattered all we're saying is Jan being edited as a try hard on the show and face cracking when she didn't get her musical win that's because once you hear jan fucking sing you'd be doing the same thing now mind you gg good fucking smoked that madonna challenge oh my god but that's because it was what was for drag race meanwhile if you were in the crowd at the jan show and she's singing the way she sang at the fucking talent show on All-Star 6, you would be throwing 20s. Oh, my God.

100%. 100%. And this is what I mean. Like, to bring it back to another example, like, when you and I went to that fan pride thing at Knockdown Center and saw all those incredible drag queens and kings and it was like everything on the spectrum of drag was like presented there and i thought to myself every one of those performances i loved yeah because drag is already incredible to begin with yes and also performance drag whatever let's just let's arrive at the top of the mountain and say head of lettuce we had a lot of fucking gagged i mean the most like politically incorrect quote-unquote offensive like just dour person you could ever see perform and she is entertaining you are crying laughing

the entire time we actually were doubled over there was a time where i honestly this is crazy to say my belly hurt oh yeah my belly Aaron was saying it's like that suburban mom thing I'm like I can't feel my cheeks from laughing oh wow that's really good that was a good Aaron and a good suburban mom I don't know I'm sorry I don't know suburban mother sexy mama

sexy mama hold on let's start that over Aaron Jackson was saying like it's like that thing of like I can't feel my cheeks when I laugh like It's very that I felt like the ab workout was happening, as you know. What are you doing? I'm just laughing because you did it perfectly the first time. And then I butchered it.

No, you did it perfectly both times. You are an Emmy-nominated sketch performer. So I understand that perfectionism. But I don't want to... No, it's staying in. The whole thing. Because that right there. That right there't want to... No, it's staying in. The whole thing. Because that right there.

That right there. No, I flopped the second time. That's right there. That's the perfection. And that makes you close to God in drag. And this is exactly what I'm talking about. This is why you deserve the Emmy nomination and the award over Rue's because you can actually do Rue better than Rue.

Sorry, we're keeping that in. You have just thrown darts at, and we're talking about loving drag queens. You're throwing darts at the queen. Oh, I'm not missing. And I'm not missing. You better not miss, but I didn't.

But I didn't. Sexy mama. Sexy mama. Had a mama. Head of lettuce. What can we, I mean, just the funniest fucking, funniest fucking, I mean, Cherry Grove's finest.

I was, I was like, I was, I was, I was talking to someone in line for the bathroom when we got to Cherry's. They were like,

oh my God, like, are you excited? I was like, you know what? I think head of lettuce is actually the thing I look forward to the most

every time I come on, time I come to Fire Island. Because she didn't perform last year and that was like really sad. And so I was just so happy to see her again. I mean, this is going to go ahead and be a Hedda Lettuce stan account. And now we must talk about Busted. So this was cathartic in all the ways it's used on the podcast, that word. Oh, and in the literal sense, in the podcast sense. Catharsis.

Catharsis. And we've seen Busted in the past, but there was something special about last night. It was, it was, there was a jack. I'm telling you, there's a good energy on the island. Because he got fucked by a guy who called you little bro. He called me little bro. And your jack lifted all the other jacks. I genuinely think it's like when WandaVision at the end,

or rather, you find out this happened at the end, but really, I guess it happened at the beginning, started it all. Started it all. When Wanda sort of screams and all the sitcom world kind of comes out of her, I honestly think that when I was getting fucked by the Bay, by this hot as he was so fucking hot.

I showed you pictures of him to you on the gram. Very handsome. And when he said little bro, I became Wanda in that moment. You created Scarlet Witch. You created Eastview. Is that what the. Believe Westview.

That's Westview. But you know what? I really want to go to Eastview. See what the hell that's about. Let's see what Eastview? Is that what the... I believe Westview. Westview. But you know what? I really want to go to Eastview and see what the hell that's about. Let's see what Eastview's about. I don't think you created... Because that's out of pain and grief.

You became the Scarlet Witch and that's very much Charizard era. You had your power come into yourself and you've changed form. I'm telling you. There's something.

There's something. But anyway... You should externalize this change somehow. I'm telling you. There's something. There's something. But anyway, you should externalize this change somehow. I'm bottling it up and selling it. And literally, I'm telling you,

if people want it on the island, they're getting it. And I'm, but one thing is, I will sort of address one situation later in my I don't think so, honey. I honestly just want to keep

this tone going in terms of, oh, busted. We need to talk about busted. Busted. You've never seen a drag queen do the Zatarain's jingle no less than 20 times it was Josh and Aaron described it as like

a bit like it had bit DCM bit show energy where it's just like this is going to be the bit for 15-20 minutes it's just everyone the Zatarain's the bit for 15-20 minutes is just everyone the Zatarain's jingle plays throughout any scene and everyone in the whole fucking place

gets rowdy rowdy so for DCM bit show energy but what we mean by that is there used to be an improv festival there used to be an improv festival

called the Dog Post Marathon and there was a beautiful culture of shows that were on at like 3am where everyone had to be um a diaper baby walking around in diapers with like shit pouring out of it like not real shit but like doing improv sets with like it was just and people got really it was like you it was like you were at like a

fucking pub it was like it was like a this is gonna sound crazy but it was like an improv comedy woodstock moment and truly like you talk you want to talk about getting fully cracked. It always was on the same weekend as Pride. So I would be cracked in half. I would be doing my 5.30 a.m. bit show. I mean, I famously ate a carrot off the ground that had been in John Gemberling's ass 10 minutes before. And that sort of, when you get to that place,

you've cracked. You've cracked. And so you could be on your Charizard, and that's when it's sort of, I guess... Oh, Charizard can fade. Charizard can be defeated. Can be defeated. I mean, you don't want Blastoise around.

Oh, no. Wow, that's so interesting. It's the beauty of Pokemon. When you're at your Charizard, you still... There is still an A an apex predator out there. And Plastoise is that big turtle apex predator. To know that.

So that's why it's always like, you know what? Be happy now. Be happy now. But think about this. A dragon is going to fucking kill a turtle no matter what the hell. Not when the turtle has cannons, hun.

Not when the turtle has cannons and not when the dragon is made of fire, which will be extinguished by water. I'm saying this not because I want to. I'm saying this to keep us safe. That's why. And then you better hope that you have a good relationship with a Venusaur.

Because if you're a Tarzan with a good relationship with a Venusaur, if you play for the same team I do in hand quotes, then you're going to be okay because that Venusaur could handle that Blastoise. So Venusaur wants something in return, which is to what? Not have you kill him. Literally. That's why it's important to keep the relationship good.

Sort of the Charizard and Giselle. Who's Charizard and who's Venusaur? Well, Venusaur is Charizard and Giselle be Charizard and who's Venusaur? Well, Venusaur is Karen and Giselle be Charizard. No. I don't even know how you could disagree. Karen is Charizard. Uh-huh.

No, you cannot. Someone who looks as fucking like horrid in her dress and her outfits cannot be Charizard. Giselle cannot be charizard oh so you so so here's the deal i'm just going energetically energetically oh you're right energetically no you're right then then karen is blastoise i believe that wendy is becoming blastoise no wendy is becoming like literally like mewtwo like being like how did her body modify yes no yeah which we love

she is genetically altered she's being she's her phenotype is being altered yes and Wendy we were looking so literally we watched Potomac this morning also so basically here's what happened we woke up this morning and I kind of had like a really good feeling about the day

and also I found out yesterday that I love this view was going to series. And so I was like so excited. And also I did know that you were getting nominated today. So we woke up, I sort of got a bottle of champagne because I was like, this might be fun. And I brought breakfast for my sister. And you didn't actually, I didn't even say thank you.

No, that's not why I do it. You know, I guess I just felt that we were in that moment one being and I was like, oh, so we, and I felt that we collectively did pay for it, but you paid for it and I didn't say thank you. I don't care. That's not what this says. Well, you got champagne.

You got the champagne. Then we started to really happily head back home because we knew that we had the nominations a little bit later, 1130. So we were like, we have more than enough time to not only just watch Potomac, but then take like 20 minutes afterwards to just like sit

with Potomac. Potomac delivered. Potomac really delivered on all fronts. We got a new housewife. We have the new have the housewife in her sophomore season who has a big storyline already coming out the gate. I mean, the Candace, the one who's potentially depressed and it's kind of hard to watch.

We met Candace's bonus children. Bonus children. Who are adorable. Naya and Mateo. Mateo looks so sweet. And Naya was, she was giving star quality. Chris lights up around the kids.

Candice giving, I think motherly energy. Motherly energy. When she was helping Naya on the homework, I thought, wait, she looks good doing that. She looks happy.

Candice helping out with homework. And then they're walking through that math. It was a very easy math question and she did call it an SAT question. It was easy, but we still love the energy. Math was a theme in this episode, wouldn't you

say? In a hilarious way, there were lots of numbers and equations being worked out on screen in real time. Like when the new housewife, Mia, said, my husband is 38 years older than me and he's 68 so they go are you 30 she goes no I'm 36 and they go

well that doesn't make any sense someone's lying and then she goes well guys I can't do math and Ashley who honestly kind of gave it to you on this episode Ashley was actually really fun she goes that's an easy math question that's an easy math question honestly kind of gave it to you on this episode. Yeah, Ashley was actually really fun. Ashley was actually really fun. She goes, that's an easy math question.

That's an easy math question. But basically, the sound bites flying out of Karen were plentiful. Plentiful, plentiful, plentiful. And Giselle was trying and Giselle thought, okay, I've had these in the can,

these lines in the can that I'm going to hurl at Karen because I bet you so, so, so, so hard. And any, any Bravo watchers that she rehearsed the line, then I'm just going to tell the truth. Your cheating truth. Your drunk truth. Your broke truth. Broke truth. Like, she, like, she rehearsed that 100% and she really wanted them to land

because she was holding out truth you're this truth and I was like we hear it we hear it or as Karen calls her

old jizzy old jizzy but Karen I think I think she did not give it a second thought it flew out her mouth what is it you're a broke

whore from Hampton University and everybody knows it i mean i mean the girls are coming for each other's necks and it's thrilling to watch also how rude wendy was to mia a guest in her new home oh can we when she goes when she because w had a, she threw a party for her new tits. Yeah. Which look unbelievable. Unbelievable. And the chop that Wendy is rocking now, the hair is looking great.

Oh my God. And I think there's some other work that was done. Of course. But guess what? Who the fuck cares? She's a professor. Not me. She looks stunning.

Let her do it. And there is this little bit of a narrative like, oh, let's talk about the work because if people aren't honest about their work, then they get dragged on the show. I'm like, I don't fucking give a hoot. So then she goes to Mia, and I didn't like this from Wendy

because it was a little bit. It was a little villainous. So what have you done? Because it looks like you got a lot of it. And then Mia did list all her surgeries. And owned it. She was like, oh, I've done all these things they did a flashback to a dinner that

Wendy and Karen went on where Karen was like I'd like to introduce you to my friend Mia and bring her to your nude interlude party her name is Mia and then Wendy goes her name is Mia alright then alright now like why is that moment so funny it was because it's delivered well Mia. All right, then. All right, now.

Like, why is that moment so cool? It was because it's delivered well. It's delivered well. Because Wendy is actually, she knows how to deliver things now. But then we have said that the line, address me correctly. Is iconic. Has aged very well.

Dr. Wendy, address me correctly. That's aged very well. It was a great freshman season for her. It's going to be a wonderful sophomore season. And I think she's moving to center couch. I mean, obviously, Karen and Giselle will be center couch. They will be

on Andy Cohen's left and right. But Wendy is sliding to the center, I think. Wendy might get just, Robin might get sort of placed out. Robin is not it's not a good vibe and I feel very bad because I feel like

oh she's really struggling during the pandemic she thought she was going to get married I mean it's about when there was such a to do about her getting married again

like it was such a triumphant end of the season for her and now the fucking pandemic like you just hate to see someone struggling like that. I hope it turns around because when Robin's fun, when she's happy, she's fun. When she's fun,

she's fun. She's so funny and great to watch. She's such a good mom to the kids. I'm so happy. I turned to you in the credits. I was like, I'm so happy. We needed it. We didn't even know we needed it. Also, I will say about Robin, Juan was laying into her.

Juan was being a lot because you could tell the camera started rolling and he was like i really don't actually like that this is happening in my life so i'm gonna be honest about it because maybe it'll change you sleep all the way in till 2 p.m like like like and he was just dragging her and you could tell she was like i mean it's true so i can't be upset. But you can tell Robin is... It's not a good start to the season for the Green-Eyed Bandits. Unfortunately. They're not on their Charizard.

I really have hope for Karen. I'm rooting for Karen, as always. I'm on Team Karen. Always. Sorry, Giselle. Rooting for Wendy, although I fear that she will be villainized very, very, very quickly. You think Wendy will become villain status?

I think she's like... She's not. But the way she's treating Mia, I mean, that's not going to be like a villain thing, but it's like she will come across as... I think Mia is much more savvy than Wendy thinks. And I think Wendy's going to... It seems like they're setting something up where Wendy and Giselle

are going to go after Mia. Well, no, because I think what's happening is Giselle decided to run her mouth about Wendy's marriage. Oh, right. And that's why we see that clip of Wendy being like, mm-mm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I love to see is the Karen and Wendy hurricane that will come for Giselle if Giselle says the wrong words about Wendy's marriage because she was like, I see you

for everything everyone said that you were. Yes! Oh, I love that from the trailer. If, I hope what they're setting up is that Wendy and Karen reconcile their past conflicts and band together because that would be so powerful. Reader, if you're not watching Potomac,

this is a good season to start with. Last season was a really great one. It's a long one, but it's really worthwhile. I can't recommend it enough. And as I say to people, this is like what everyone says right now, or a lot of people are saying to me. They're like, I didn't even watch Housewives before,

but now I'm, in terms of like, when I'm like, do you watch Housewives? And they'd be like, yeah. And like, I didn't until very recently. I'm one of those people. And I gotta tell you, I'm not like of like, um, when I'm like, do you watch house? I was going to be like, yeah. And like, I didn't until very recently, I'm one of those people. And I, I gotta tell you, I'm not like all the way in there.

Like I do have my blind spots and I have not seen most of the seasons from even the cities that I love to watch. But Potomac is really, really, really excellent. It's just a fun show. It's like, and it feels different than,

you know, like Beverly Hills has its own identity. It is what it is. And I've been loving it this season. New York is flopping hard. than, you know, like Beverly Hills has its own identity. It is what it is. And I've been loving it this season. New York is flopping hard. And I say this with love for Ebony K. Williams, who I think is actually great. She's great.

But I just don't think there's enough. There's not enough there there in terms of the cast, not in terms of Ebony. I think in terms of literally being five women, it's just not taking off just it's it's just not taking off and so it's like and all the only places they can go are like what like the hamptons and it's like it's like it feels repetitive in a way but wait where what's their big trip this season well right now they are in um salem that's right that's right which actually is funny

um but i don't know I just feel like it's it feels culturally repetitive too because we're dealing a lot with Ramona being like a Trumper who was bad during COVID and like you know Ebony's trying to engage her and it's the election and that's another thing is like where New York is

is during the election and it just it's not a fun place to revisit because you feel shades of the tension and you feel shades of like the anxiety that we were all experiencing in every frame of the show it's not fun to watch

it's just not a fun culture to be sitting in so that's why we don't talk about it like as though we were Charizard's no one on that show right as though we were Charizard. Right. Oh, well, no one on that show right now is in their Charizard era.

Literally, no. I mean, they're sort of in the flop era, each and every one of them. Except I would say that Ebony is probably someone who's on her Charizard a lot. Ebony came in and she is doing a great, great, great job. Very fun to watch. It's just that she doesn't have a lot to work with.

We should just briefly say that we are celebrating not just Kathy Hilton on Beverly Hills 2, but Miss Crystal Kung Minkoff. Crystal Kung Minkoff. Is a welcome addition. Crystal the Kung Minkoff. Crystal the Kung Minkoff. Ziwe was hanging out with her all Pride Week.

I was so jealous. And then can I tell you something? I told you, right? Oh, yeah. No, no. Ziwe was like, I'm going to try to get Crystal to come to your house party. I was like, no, do not bring Crystal. Crystal Kung Minkoff coming in.

Well, she would never come. She would never come. Walking into that house and being like, hey, I'm Crystal. I would be like, it's iconic behavior. I was like, you are everything. I would be like, no, you cannot see my terrible belongings. Please leave. Honestly, I would just take her upstairs

and I would be like, there's a roof deck. Let's go upstairs. We would light a blunt. I'd be like, you're fucking killing the show. And she'd be like, I know. I watch it too. And I just feel like it's a better show with me. And I would say it dead ass is because

the way that we have the combination of Sutton, who I am a slutton. You're a slutton. I am a slutton. And she is doing what she needs to do to secure the diamond. The diamond is fused to her hand. She'll never let go. She'll never let go. And she's doing what she needs to do and the combination of her

doing the most and Crystal being that bitch that gives you nothing nothing and is like okay is it's Tom and Jerry it's beautiful it's cat and dog

it's like it's like Crystal is truly like like there's that when I told you about this this fight quote unquote

that they had on the boat in Tahoe where Sutton's like I feel like you really disrespected me and then Crystal's like, okay. And then for the,

for at least five exchanges, for the next five exchanges, Sutton says something. Okay. Okay. So Sutton says something. Okay.

Like, just like, she does not, she will give you nothing and then she will, and then she, like, she will bide her time and then she will fucking come for the juggler.

She comes. She comes. She's coming in the next episode because this last episode iconically ended. So we've had this line. Oh my God. I haven't even seen this, but the way you describe it to me. We're watching it after this.

Beautiful. So basically, they're at, so Lisa Rinna is trying to make amends with Garcelle because Garcelle has her gorgeous eyebrow raised at Rinna who she thought she knew, but then her behavior towards Denise Richards last season was untoward and it was uncouth. So basically, Rinna is now doing the most

to try to court Garcelle's friendship again. So she has Harry Hamlet, her husband, make his famous bolognese for a birthday celebration for Garcelle and just to celebrate getting all together. So they're doing this little celebration for Garcelle and just to celebrate getting all together. So, they're doing this little celebration for Garcelle. They bring out a

cake and then there's gifts introduced to the mix. Cut to the other end of the table, Sutton says, I didn't know we were doing gifts. You have such a good sentence. And Kyle's like, yeah, yeah, we're doing gifts. And Lisa Rinna is running the show. Garcelle is, of course, gifted the most stunning items from Crystal.

Jewelry. Just like stunning. You know, she's getting bags. Oh my God. By the way, we haven't even brought up Erika Jayne, which is, whatever. So then you see Sutton just become despondent. Because here is Crystal having given the best gifts, and you can tell that she's just fitting in because Sutton does not like to not fit in.

She stomps away from the table, but not before she says to Kyle, I don't like being around people. I don't like. I can't pretend. I refuse to pretend. I'm walking over there. He's such a good Sutton. Lauren.

Lauren. And so- Matt has a Sutton. Well,. Lauren. Matt has a Sutton. Well, you know, he has a Sutton. Which could be good. Could be interesting. I'm not putting Sutton alone out there. So Matt has a Sutton. Matt has a Sutton. And you know, because Sutton's dropping in to do update.

Sutton's dropping in. Sutton's dropping in. Sutton's track is dropping in to do update. And you know, it would be fun to have two Suttons. Very Vanessa doing Jennifer you know. Oh my god ladies and gentlemen and your host Sutton Strack

You know she'd be so excited. She would be a nightmare. She'd be a nightmare all week. Do you think that she would be like I don't think that's funny. I don't want to do that because I don't want to appear insensitive because actually on the show i did have a couple moments where i just didn't know that i was being insensitive and i i was not educated so educate me educate educate me

tell me you're that girl tell me you're that girl that wants to write with the writers on tuesday um so anyway sutton is like i don't like her and I am owed an apology to Kyle who is again iconically in the center of it all and the ladies

start to kind of mosey over because the bolognese was gobbled up because again it's famous it's famous and who doesn't

fucking love bolognese and also they did the great work of showing you Harry Hamlin and his garden earlier so these are all natural ingredients

I love his garden he's on are all natural ingredients i love his garden he's on his charizard he's on his charizard so basically they've gobbled up the bolognese and the lady starts sort of walking over to another area of the stunning home that lisa rena lives in to sort of have another cocktail and they're one by one noticing that sutton is irate so sutton finally says i can't pretend that everything is hunky dory to which Kathy Hilton replies who is hunky dory and the camera lingers on her face just to sort of confirm that she is serious

you can see Kyle sort of like sort of shake her head Garcelle has a moment of concern Erica's I think I fell out and then they cut back to Kathy she genuinely wants to know who is hunky dory Garcelle has a moment of concern. Erica's, I think, I fell out. And then they cut back to Kathy. And they cut back to Kathy. She genuinely wants to know who is Hunky Dory.

Like, there could be, who is this woman in Beverly Hills that I haven't met? Hunky Dory. I can't pretend that everything is Hunky Dory. Well, I don't know who that is. Who is that? And if I don't know who you are, you don't know who you are.

That's a Jared Freider. That's Jared Freider's housewife's entrance. Did you know that? If I don't know who you are, you don't know who you are that's a jared frieder oh that's jared frieders housewives entrance did you know that i think if i don't know who you are you don't know who you are which doesn't really make sense it doesn't make sense but that's what makes it perfect exactly um so anyway finally in the moment of the silence of after hunky dory crystal does make her way over she's like what's wrong what's the matter what's wrong? What's the matter? What's going on? And Sutton goes, I have owed an apology by you because you said when I walked into your hotel room to return your coat. I violated you. That you were naked. And then you told everyone I violated you.

When I left right away. And she said, so what is it that you want? Do you want an apology? I'm sorry you're upset. She goes, sorry, I'm upset. I want you to not use the word violate. And Crystal goes, no, I'm not taking back that word. That's what the word is.

If you don't understand the word, look it up. Violate. It's to access someone in a way that makes them feel unsafe. It's to violate their privacy. It's to cross boundaries. a way that makes them feel unsafe. It's to violate their privacy. It's to cross boundaries. And that's what it was. I felt. And Sutton is, she's losing it.

I'm violating you. I'm violating you. She's acting like Reese in the morning show. Uh-huh. Absolutely. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. So Sutton stomps away

and she says, what am I? As Christopher says, you're jealous of me, which is iconic coming from that type of girl. Sutton. What?

Jealous of what? Your ugly leather pants? Kyle Richards screams, no! As if a slur has been said. No! No! Cuts to Rinna has been said. No! No! Cuts to Rinna.

Cuts to Rinna, who is aghast. She can't believe, she goes, no, you don't say that. You don't say that. Smash cut to the pants. The words to be continued. I have not seen a second of this. And the way Matt has described it to me, the way he just did, which is, get the fuck up.

That was just, that was a one person show for you to just perfectly give you all the imagery you need to have been right there with them. You gotta be watching it. It's just fun. It's just fun. It's just fun. I didn't start,

I never watched an episode of Beverly Hills except for the finale last season with Denise and Rona. That was my first one. I was like, okay, this is fine. And then started this season with all the titterings about Crystal Kong Minkoff. I was like, I got to watch. And reader, I have not been disappointed.

She's moving to center couch. Oh. She's sliding down the couch. Like a speeding train. And honestly, I'll tell you what. I mean, Kyle's going to be sitting next to Andy. Probably Rinna's going to be sitting next to Andy. I don't know. Who's Kyle going to be in? Oh, Erica will be sitting

next to Andy. So Erica will be in the hot seat and Kyle. And then I'm telling you, next to Kyle is Crystal. Next to Erica is Sutton. And I think that's what's happening. I love this. We were talking to our friend Ty Mitchell about this yesterday. He came by. Sweetheart doll.

And also brilliant writer. Brilliant mind. Just based off tweets, guys. Okay. But he was talking about Crystal Kung Minkoff. I mean, I forgot what he said specifically, but I was like, yeah, like she is really coming in

without like that like freshman season energy. No, she's a part of it. She kind of doesn't give a shit. No, because she's rich in a real way. Her husband directed The Lion King. She's on her Charizard. But she literally has perspective, which is something a lot of these women lack,

but she has perspective in life, which is that, oh yeah, I grew up Asian and I teach my kids Chinese and I make dumplings. You know, it's like, she like is connected to something outside of her own inner life that makes it, that makes you kind of like not care about someone like Sutton coming at you.

But what's brilliant about this conflict is that they're both making themselves feel victimized in valid ways and invalid ways. Sutton, not valid. Crystal, I would say maybe valid. Well, there's been moments where crystal has lost me just like the word violate in the way that she's saying it because they do cut to like moments where she's told the girls about what happened and you see it happen yeah yeah sutton runs in she has the coat she sees that crystal's like

undressing what's going on here and she puts the coat down and leaves and then crystal has blown it up and to the well no she is entitled And then Crystal has blown it up. Well, no. Which she is entitled to do. The footage, though, it does seem like Crystal, like, from the audio, it's like, she's like, I'm naked.

Like, what are you, like, I'm sure she was, like, in the corner, like. Also, she doesn't know if the cameras are following her in. Exactly. You know, she's new to being on TV. And then Sutton,

instead of closing the door, immediately goes, I'm just gonna run in get closer to you drop this like that spatially i'm i'm team crystal here that is kind of really fucked up yeah i mean so in the ways that she was telling the women about she was like it was like really she calls her like there's the whole i am not a peeping tom oh yeah we need to stop with this language and sort of like so you can see crystal sort of leaning in which fucking go for it you're a housewife but like there has been moments where

i'm like there's fallibility there and vulnerability there oh sure she's been very vulnerable on the show and shared a lot yes and i don't know killing it and we're not even halfway through and we haven't even talked about fucking erica who Joel and I talked about it last weekend. You did. I loved what you guys had to say. And you know what? I normally would apologize to the reader for us talking about the same shit.

Whatever. But no, we're in our Charizard era. You can turn it off. They can turn it off. It's fine. Join us next week. There's so many other great podcasts. There's Urgent Care.

Urgent Care. Seek Treatment. I mean, the Stradio Lab boys always put on other great podcasts. There's Urgent Care. Urgent Care. Seek Treatment. I mean, like, the Stradio Lab boys always put on a great show. I would say they do it like no other. Yeah, so there's so many other podcasts that you can listen to if you don't want to hear us on our charizard doing Sutton Strack impressions and dreaming of a world where she hosts SNL.

Because I want to see that world. I want my children to see that world. I want my children to see that world. I want to see what flop dress she comes out in the beginning to do her monologue. Like something with like a fucking happy chameleon on it or something. She wears those weird patterns and I'm like you run a boutique?

I love her. God, like fucking her buying the Vetements shoes. I'm like no, don't buy Vetements. That's not you, Sutton. You should have some more self-awareness you're not vet ma okay i'm wanting to go to sutton the boutique i'm wanting to go there because i do believe that she is posted it's like vanderpump at at like um sure like you'll see her if you look oh yeah she's there why wouldn't you i heard that she eats dinner there every night.

Yeah, it's her restaurant where everyone fucking worships her. Specifically, like, probably the staff are like, whatever Lisa wants. Yeah, she says, darling, I'll do a Prosecco. Just kidding. She probably drinks, like, really nice champagne. That's an amazing Lisa impression. I mean, God, the talent. Lauren had his chance.

Lauren had his chance. And he literally did. No, he literally did. But I flop. I do say this with every genuine ounce of fucking flesh and cartilage in my heart. Matt Rogers, the funniest motherfucker. The funniest person. Funniest person.

I just don't accept it. There's no one like him. Funniest person. Anyway. There's no one like him. I don't accept it. The funniest person in the world is Lily Collins. Is Lily Collins and then Matt Rogers. Fine. Fine. Fine. I'll take second. But to disrespect Lily like that. I know. I'm sorry. She wasn't nominated. It's fine. I'm so proud of you. I can't even make

I can't even tell you girl. Bitch. I'm so happy we got to be together for it. Me too. In a real way. I know in a real way for both, for both things. Yeah. Well,

you told me, you told me a few days before when I wasn't seeing you that it got, it hadn't gotten picked up, but to, it was nice. I was told for a while, like it looks good. And then the,

Oh, but you know, the old Hollywood push, they never tell you. They never say a word. Word. Um, let's sort of,

um, move on, put, put, put a pin in this sort of charizard uh moment to just say that right now we're going to sort of step into i don't think so honey and while i don't think so honey is inherently sort of i don't want to say negative what's the word um uh biting yes aggressive um We only, we are still, we're going to dip into this world and then we're going to be right back on our fucking Charizard

and we, we hope you are and we hope you do that too. And we've met a lot of you. We've met, it's been really nice to meet the readers. As I said,

the last episode that I was on, we said the exceptions are the readers. The readers are the real ones. And so I genuinely hope each and every reader starts to prepare themselves for a mindset to be in their Charizard.

Is Mercury out of retrograde? No, it's not about Mercury. It's not about communication. It's about personal. It's about self-definition, personal power. You understand? It's internal. It's always with. It's about self-definition, personal power. You understand? Personal power. It's internal. It's internal.

It's always with you. So you can always externalize that power in you. Yes. Come on. Come on. At Cartole. Ass. This fall on Bravo.

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Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast presented by elf beauty, founding partner of I heart women's sports. Let's do, I don't think so. Honey, let's do it. So basically I don't think so.

Honey is, or it has usually been a one minute. I don't know what it's going to become in the future because it might be on its charizard at a certain point at this stage of evolution that i'm currently in why would i ever tell any girl not to evolve so i don't think so honey is right now a 60 second segment where someone performing said i don't think so honey sort of goes off i'm doing air quotes on pop culture um pop culture in ways large and small. We've had sort of, I don't think

so, honeys, that were about Jennifer Garner, you know what I mean? Actually, house member and member of this house, Patrick Rogers, did that one. And then we had, like, I don't think so, honey, you did the sunset. The sunsets, which was a flop, and that was back in my

flop era. That was in my flop era, I will admit. No, don't buy me, honey. We should see the sunset the sunsets which was a flop and that was back in my flop era that was in my flop era I will admit no don't we should see the sunset tonight by the way I would love to see the sunset that has to be

on the docket it is cloudy though but so anyway it is time for I don't have my phone would you mind I can time you and you can go first

as you want to do just don't look at my text because there are surprises happening oh okay seriously some big bros texted. Oh my god, that was so funny.

Just pull down from your screen. Okay, stop, watch. Sometimes I just forget where things are on my phone in terms of the emojis. Even Charizard forgets. Okay, and this is with love, you guys. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey and his time starts now.

I Don't Think So Honey being a bad kisser in 2021 yeah like and and we need to be brushing our teeth oh i get that a lot of people are on vacation but when i'm when i'm kissing you and it i and i i just i say this with love it tastes like chicken feed not feet feed chicken feed i should not be in the barnyard when i'm in the pavilion okay i should not be in the barnyard when I'm in the pavilion. I should not be in the barnyard when I'm in the ice palace. I should be in those zones. When it's feeling like chicken feed

in my mouth, it's going to be a no on that one. I don't think so, honey. Too much... Sorry, but teeth? I'm getting teeth. You're getting a lot of teeth. Gums, tongue tongue kiss me with lips 15 seconds or i don't think so honey and i'm some people play hard to get i am easy to get

like if you want it you're getting it but don't come at me with these gums teeth and lip and only lips i do think so, honey. Them, I don't think so, honey. You bad kissers. Chicken feed. And that's one minute. A minute and six seconds. And you know why you went over the time?

And I wouldn't even say you went over the time. You went your time because you're in your Charizard era. I was entitled to those six seconds. You were very entitled to those six seconds. And here's the thing. Would you agree that... I can already tell you I will. No, no maybe you won't there is no such thing as a good kisser but there is definitely such a thing as a bad kisser because i think that okay i would consider

myself a good kisser but it's always a dance with the other person and so that's how i feel well i and so and so it's about making the other person look good whatever improv nonsense but like improv school 101 nonsense but like i you can only be a bad kisser if you're being inconsiderate of your of what your partner is signaling that's the thing is it's like why are you trying to run shit right now? Aren't we here together? Like, I just feel like sometimes when people are dominating the energy of the kiss, it's like, well, you are a narcissist.

You're an egomaniac. There's actually two people doing this and it's sociopathic behavior. When you come in with an agenda. Also, I'm sorry, but if people love this, like go off, but I don't need a tongue all the way down my throat.

And I'm telling you, some people do. And I'm sure you've met some of these girls that are the jabbers. The jabbers, the javelin throwers. Jabbers, javelin. Just chill. And there are the people who really turn, but there's a different kind of person who pushes their lips together in a way to make it

feel like the head of a spear. It's also the same sort of concept of a jab. You're jabbing at me with your fish mouth. And by fish mouth, I mean, like, they turn, they make their lips conical and start to jab me. It's very,

very untoward. I just also want to say that if you're listening to this episode and we did experience a kiss together, I'm not talking about you. No, no, no, no. He's not talking about you. Let's just say there's been

experiences that could have been better and people need to be respectful and not act uncouth. That's all it is. Just think of it as a dance. It's a dance. It's a dance. It's like a samba. It's like the Viennese Waltz.

There you go. I love that. So now it's time for Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. It's like the Viennese Waltz. There you go. I love that. So now it's time for Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. It's another boat, Doug. We're sorry. That's another boat, yeah. So sorry about that. He's going to say, yeah, well, one hour 18 in, you got a boat sound happening and you know,

didn't love that. Just let you know, I can work around it, but that girl we loved that we love him all right so this is bonings i'm just not are you ready his time starts now i don't think so honey bug spray i mean nominee you're not even doing what you're supposed to do so what are you doing putting forth this image of no bugs when what do i see on my leg oh a damn zika insect yeah a damn tick a damn wasp kind of hovering around my ear which is an erogenous which is an erogenous zone seconds yeah damn you know whatay? I'm talking to you off specifically. And no, don't send this shit

because you won't make this right unless you actually change the formulation in your product to bend off insects in this time when insects want everything to do with my flesh and my type O blood and all of my life force. They're takers.

You are endangering me. And off. Five seconds. If you don't change the formula, I am going to be throwing hands. That's one minute and two seconds. And you, I've never seen someone more entitled to two seconds. Thank you. I was entitled to this. You know, I've been diligent about my coverage,

about replenishing my bug spray coverage, still waking up with bites. It almost like makes you question, is this placebo? Is this placebo? Is this sugar water? Is this sugar water? By the way,

a cinnamon roll is no longer a cinnamon roll. It's sugar bread. Sugar bread. That's the opposite. We don't have time to get into it. We don't have time to get into it. But i would like confront the creators of this bug spray i just did this placebo oh yeah yeah yeah okay off if you're listening you gotta check the vat of the thing or whatever i'm looking at you right now i'm'm holding you right now. Read the ingredients. Let's see. Alright.

Let's just get into it. So in here, well, it says directions for use. Well, no, no, no. I want to know. I actually don't know. Give it to me. It's sort of like my phone with the emojis. I just never know where it should be. Oh, I'm sorry. I asked you something that... I think you asked me something that ended up not having an answer.

Ended up not having an answer. Which we wanted to know the ingredients of off, but they're not going to say it if it's not, if it's placebo. Active ingredient. Oh. Deet, which is the thing.

What the fuck is that? Deet? It's the thing that is supposed to keep the bugs away. Throughout a percentage, throughout a percentage. How much of this do you think is the actual thing that's supposed to be in there? How much do I think they put on the bottle? How much do I think they're telling us?

Yes, let's start with that. I think they would tell us and I think that they think this is a lot. I think they would tell us 6%. Well, it's 15. I expected it to be, I need it to be higher. Well, this is the thing is it's like you never

know with sort of, it's like when you have a drink and it says 2% calcium, you're be higher. Well, this is the thing. It's like you never know. It's like when you have a drink and it says 2% calcium. You're like, well, that's not a lot. It really is. No, I know. It is one of those things. But other ingredients, 85%. What are the other ingredients?

Why is it we're not being transparent? Oh, the vagary. SC Johnson, a family company. Give me that right now. I mean, SC Johnson, a family company, please reach out. No, don't even reach out. If you hearing this this is not a dialogue check the formulation because it might be sugar water okay because not for nothing but there's an emmy nominee that's getting bid up

and and this is post covering herself in your product. And look, I mean, I feel like it's not a placebo because a placebo, it can't be double blind. If neither of us know that this is a placebo, then what are you doing? Anyway, that's it. But thank you for framing it this way. I'm an Emmy nominee and I'm getting bit by bugs and it's just not okay.

And as someone who was snubbed, let's just say this. The rose of this episode was the Charizard sort of energy that we feel despite a snub. Despite a snub. Oh.

But... Charizard's never won an Emmy. Never. And he's one of the greatest icons of television. One of the greatest icons of television. Never a snub. Oh. But. But. But. Charizard's never won an Emmy. Never. And he's one of the greatest icons of television. One of the greatest icons of television. Never won an Emmy. That's fine. He's still Charizard. And my thorn was having to really, really, really sit in the fact that my girl's been getting bitten

up. It's okay. It's okay. We will weather these together. I am so happy that we did this. We had an honest conversation. We had had an honest conversation and yesterday we were supposed to record the pod yesterday and it wasn't the vibe and that's why i'm saying when you feel the vibe is off especially in a zone where their vibes have been so good you have to sort of drift away from that and yesterday was not the day to record the pod you said that to me and I thought, well, maybe. And then I thought to myself, there has been trust built here. My instincts have, my spider spence was tingling.

But I trusted you. And I don't do that with a lot of people. And yet I went on this journey with you and it was the right choice because of course. Very jump then fall. Jump then fall. You know, there hasn't been a lot of Taylor on this trip. And we need to change that actually. I played Willow the other day and I sort of got a sense from the girls that they didn't want Willow to be on

and I was like I'm not going to force it. We're going to educate them about Taylor. It's fine. I mean listen, Tina Burner, thank you for putting Welcome to New York in your mix. And Tina Burner has a wonderful New York mix. Of course she's got Sinatra and Welcome to New York. Those are the two. When a wonderful New York mix. Of course, she's got Sinatra and Welcome to New York. Those are the two.

When Welcome to New York, those are the two. Those are the two New York songs. Well, Frank Sinatra and Taylor Swift are sort of the New Yorkers of Hollywood. You know what I mean? When you see them in your mind's eye, you sort of think New York City. And on that sort of note, on this jubilant Charizard era sort of benchmark. Checkpoint, I was going to say. How do you feel about ending with a song?

I feel really good about it. Welcome to New York. It's been waiting for you. Welcome to New York. Welcome to New York. Harmony. Welcome to New York. Welcome to New York. Harmony. Welcome to New York. Did we do it?

It's fine. To end on a failed harmony. No, it's fine. We're in our Charizard. We're in our Charizard. Bye. Bye. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.

Or stay with his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13

to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman.

I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question. What kind of dudes are these dudes? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.

Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels

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