Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Animal Style" (w/ Caleb Hearon)

Episode Date: April 8, 2026

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Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding-Dong. Las Couturistas calling.

We're talking nails on both the hands and feet. We're talking pedicures, manicures. Feet nails. How we like to get them. Yep. The hangups that go into scheduling them. So I go like, my nails become like, PICA, is that what it is?

It starts to flake. I peel layer by layer of keratin. I guess what we're all saying is we're nail biters here. This is a nail biter community? I've since been reformed. I've since reformed. They look amazing, I have to say. No, I don't know about that.

They look great. And that's that you have such a nice jewelry. you want people to notice it clearly. So when everyone looks at your fingers, it's like they better be together those little cute. Sure, sure. But you are, you're chronic with it. You are a chronic biter.

That is how my anxiety manifests. That's right. You know when I was a little boy, I was flexible enough to put my toe in my, toenail in my mouth. And then my mother saw me, saw me doing it one time. I was like seven or eight.

And she was, she sat me down like I had like done something really wrong. And she was like, I want to talk to you about what it is. you've been doing. Was the fetish born or killed in that moment? I guess killed because it was like it was really serious. It was like I really want to talk to you about your behavior.

It's like I had been doing drugs or something. Like this has to stop. You have to stop putting your foot in your mouth and biting off the toe. Now. Don't worry. I don't do it anymore. I can't, only because I can't get it up there. We were talking to our guests.

I bet you could. All right. We worked out. Talk guys are a visual medium. Cannot put his own foot in his mouth. This is what it's all that. He can. We're our guest is, um, the habit is returning is, as he's saying, because he's dealing

in with a stressful sort of. He's in a stressful situation where nails get bitten. Yeah. Um, I, I'm not, oh my God. Oh, he's wearing ugs and a matching sock. Wait, guys, am I supposed to be talking? No, hold on one second. Hold on one second.

Talk in, talking 15 seconds. Our guest is wearing ugs. And that's not all he's contributing to the culture. So true. So true. You already know it. You know it. You love it.

Yeah. It is the current sort of... Current fucking reigning. The current fucking reigning. Model comedian on HBO Max, which I did have to double check it is back to being HBO Max. Just going forward, we all know it's back to HBO Max. It's not HBO. It's not Max.

Or it is HBO, but then it's not Max. It's HBO Max. Valerie cherishes HBO Max. Quite. And he's in this movie that is coming out soon called The Devil Wers Prada 2. Two. The squeak will. The squeak will.

That actually is the sequel. If there's any sequel, that's a sequel, it's Devil Wears Prada 2. Absolutely. You're in the sequel. How's that feel? Okay, let's bring him in. This is our good friend. Everybody please.

Welcome, Caleb. We're hearing. You know that our listeners have been begging for, all they want to hear is you, not us. Well, you guys refuse to have me on. That's not really true. And this was a bit on your pod. Do you, let's unpack this? I think you, I think you, you were talking with someone about how.

Did I do a bit about me not coming on last hospital? Yeah, I like, we never invited you. Oh, that's really funny. I mean, you guys have been avoiding me like the plague. What is it? I don't feel this is true. I honestly, I feel that what it was was there was an era where we were kind of doing guests, not like, on the Zoom and I was like this has to be an in-person thing.

I don't do, I really won't. I hate the Zoom podcast. You've done it right the whole time. I won't do it. I won't do it for mine. It scares me. Do you guys, did you guys?

Because I hate it. I feel like I'm not being charming. I feel like I'm doing a really bad job. I just can't connect on Zoom. Based on the example, the cases, the cases that you've, the data points that you've collected thus far,

which is what, like a handful of times. When I did them, because when we did, when I had my showkeeping records with Shelby Wolsey back in the day, back forever ago, we would do Zoom episodes. Well, we really did Zoom episodes because both of our dads died unexpectedly.

So we had to be in different parts of the country. So honestly, maybe it was like profound grief. Yes! Maybe it was like us both being in psychotic grief. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I really, I do not feel that I did a good job on the Zoom episodes. I just hate- Because you were psychotically grieving. Yeah, psychotic grief and also the lag.

Yeah, it's the lag. I hate like, because also with the Zoom of it all, it's especially like during the pandemic when we started, it was like, okay, here's like a pretty big guest that we've booked. but of course they're never going to see us in person at that time. So they got on Zoom. And having a lag with like someone that you're trying to, like, you know, impress or that you respect. Yeah. You can't have a lag with Cameron Diaz?

No, you can't have a lag with Cameron Diaz? No, no. You can't do it? Wait, can I ask you guys a question? Yes. I've never gotten to ask you as this and I am curious about it. And it's obviously okay if you don't want to talk and we can cut. No, this is wrong.

We're not cutting. Have you, look, I'm just going to ask. Go ask. Don't be afraid. You guys are so cute together. Was there ever a moment? Was there ever a moment that we romantically sexually and more? Or considered even.

Was there ever a moment? No, it would be like siblings. Totally. You know that feeling? Totally. It's like if you and Shelby were to. It's a little different, right? As siblings in grief.

It's a little different. Okay, I was just checking because I just wondered. In like a way where it's like any two gay guys. You know what I mean? It's sort of like any two gay guys are like, huh? It's like, of course it runs through your mind, but then quickly relationship becomes what it is. But I do think it's that thing of like, so we're working on something together and I was talking to one of our collaborators on it. And it floated through my mind like, huh, should our characters have like a thing that they explore?

And then our friend was like, well, the thing is like with you guys in a show that's about two gay guys, it's like if they don't kiss, you kind of have to say why. And I was like thinking about what the why was. I'm like, oh, the Y is like platonic friendship. But then once you get on that track, it's like, well, is it more interesting to explore it because of that? Is that the surprising thing? So what I'm saying is, Bowen, there's something I wanted to tell you for years. Just kidding.

That would be so awesome. If you guys have any big reveals that you've been waiting to do and you wanted to do it in the episode where I'm here, I would really love that. Oh, this is going to do numbers no matter what. We don't need to do a big review. We're going to save that for like a clunker. Imagine we need to like a slunker. Imagine we needed like a sweeps episode of the podcast.

It was like Matt and Bone getting engaged on Lascaultries. That's like when there's like a lion loose in Wisteria Lane. I would love that. I would love to be part of that. Yeah. We can officiate when it happens. You guys should for a stunt. You guys should be there for a stunt.

Absolutely. People have done it. Wait, what's your, now can you tell everybody what your nail journey is? Oh, my nail journey. Yes, of course. I'm so sorry. I will get off track a lot during this.

My nail journey is that, okay, so I kicked, during COVID, I kicked two habits. well around COVID. Yeah. Nail biting. I was a horrific nail biter. It would bite shit down to the nubs. Bleeding.

Bleeding. Crazy style. Yeah, we're talking. Doing that. And then we're talking, it's giving nub. And then my fear of death, I really got over. Hypochondria. My hypochondria fear of death was wrapped up in one thing.

Really kicked that. Yeah. I was like, that's probably just going to happen to me someday. I made peace with my mortality. Probably. I'm not certain, but it feels like it. Probably. So I kicked those.

But yeah, I'm back just like last week, I started picking at my nails again. And it's crazy. How did you kick it? to begin with. Picking and biting? Yeah, picking and biting. I just stopped. Whoa.

Cold turkey. I just stopped. I was like no more. I had to be really mean to myself for a minute. But then I was able to be sweet to myself. But I had to be mean at first. Every time I would pick up the finger, I'd be like, Caleb Daniel. Yeah.

This is disgusting. Put it away. Because here's the thing, they are filthy. They shouldn't be in there. No, they shouldn't be in there. And I'll tell you what I don't love is the sort of casual. away, a mother will just watch her toddler pick something off the ground and put it in their mouth. I guess at a certain point, it's like... You're exhausted as a mother.

They need it, don't they? Don't the babies need it? Because they need it. Dr. The germs. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, you don't want them to have no germs, right? Right. Certainly it's not a judgment. All the moms out there. It's just, it shocks me when I see something on the ground that then goes in the baby's mouth. Yeah. Totally. But I'm a nail bite or lifelong. How often are you guys eating something off the floor? Just let's get into it. I ate my lexper off the floor the other day. Which one is

that? What is that one? It's glamour. That's satelopram. That's SSRI. So it just fell on the bathroom floor. Terrible place to fall. And yet You ate it off the bathroom floor. And I feel, and every time I take something off the floor five second rule, I'm like, well, didn't they do a myth

busters on how that is absolute garbage? Like, it's not real. Like the five second rule is like, it's dirt He put that away. On your bathroom floor, Bowen? It's really bad at Bowen's house because he's constantly missing the toilet bowl. Bowen. It's like a hose.

Wait, what? It's like, it's like in those crazy movies where like a, not you opening. Not you like a phrase. You know what like a fireman's bad at his job and it's like, whoa! That's like Bowen in the bathroom because it was a big al-anaconda. Don't. Sorry. Don't.

What zone of the bathroom for did it fall on? Pretty close to the bowl. Yeah. Really, Bowen. Pretty close. Oh my gosh, this actually is deeply good for me to hear because that's the kind of thing I would do, but be a shame to talk about. And you're standing in bravery right now in a way that actually will move many in the community. Can I really get vulnerable here?

I feel good with everybody in the room. Okay. Just if anyone were to witness me digging in my nostrils for shit, I would be dead. I would move planets. I would go away. I would leave this earth. I don't even have a lot of shame about it. I'm in my nose.

Can I tell you something? Can I take a step further? Please. And be vulnerable. I feel comfortable with everyone but one person in the store. Yeah. And I'm not going to say who.

And you brought them here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my assistant. She's doing elder abuse to me. No, I'm in my nose, obviously crazy style. Yeah. And not only would I be embarrassed

for someone to see me in the nose, I'd be embarrassed for them to see what I sometimes find. Yeah. Because let me tell you, Can I just tell you something? You're in your nose crazy style and what's in there is animal style. It's animal style. Do you ever feel your nose like this and be like, oh, there's something really in there?

Yeah. And then you get in there and what you pull out is like pretty long and hard. Yep. Can I say that? Has that happened to anyone? Absolutely. I think we all have a nose and we'd all be crazy, ridiculous fools to say we haven't dug in there and found something crazy style, animal style. You ever just sit in somewhere and you feel something hit your shirt and you realize, you realize it.

It's, it's, you realize a little bit of ear wax has fallen out of your ear. I never had that happen, but more. It's really gross. A bunch of people just shook their head no, so obviously I'm pretty suicidal. No, no, no, no. Kimmer guy shook his head nose so violently that it was borderline judgmental. Nick, no, no, no, no. That is fucking hurt so bad.

That sucked. People in the comments say if you've had earwax fall out and you felt the weight of it hit your shirt. I hear to negotiate you off the ledge because I, too, deal with ear stuff. It happens. Like, you ever take your AirPods out? Oh, that's like, no. It's like, oh, that's covered in the stuff. That was like the glamorous girl version of what I was talking about.

If people were being really honest with themselves, sometimes a little chunk falls out. And I'm like, I have to get up on the cross for all of us. But like, yours was so normal and you should never be ashamed of that. And also, to be fair, like, you do shove those AirPods in there. You shove them in. But I want to know more about earwax if you're willing to share. Totally. So there have been a couple of times in my life.

It's not zero. It's probably not north of 20. It's probably somewhere in the zero to 20 range. I would say plus, like definitely north of five, south of 20. Okay. I have been sitting somewhere. I have felt a mass leave my ear. It's while you're sitting down usually.

Totally. There's been some sort of shift movement, ruffle, yep. I feel a mass, something with weight, heft, leave my ear and fall on my person. I feel the weight of it hit my body, not unlike a punch landing on my body. Yeah.

And lo and behold, I look down. And yes, it's a little glob of earwax. Yeah. All that to say. say, I want to ground everybody in the fact that I am human. Yeah. And I have a body that produces things like earwax. I'm not here to, please believe me when I say this, I am jealous.

Do you mean that? My earwax gets logged. Gets logged. It doesn't, I wish it clumped. And I'm sorry, is that an okay word to say? Clumped? Clumped? I wish it clumped.

I wish I had nuggets of earwax. I have a disgusting, thin film. that stays there and will sediment into its own layer fuse with my skin and the rest of my dermis for the rest of my life. I was going to say, I think I'd rather be like Caleb and having it fall out because at least then there's the relief of knowing that that said mass is no longer in your body than go through what I know my sister goes through, which is to have sort of blockage because that becomes ear infection.

And that's the worst thing that could ever happen to a human. Her having no ability to defend herself or step in, and just you being like, she has blockage and she's in trouble. It's talking about me. Yeah. Oh, wait, no. I thought you made your actual sister. No, no, no. My sister to my right.

I thought you were bringing up a biological sister who was nowhere in the room. And I was like, that's insane. And I'm completely addicted. Yeah. I mean, I would then call her my bio sister. You're my sister. She's my bio sister. It's making it seem really fucked up when I ask you guys.

Can I, speaking of bio, which I thought was a term that we like didn't really, this is like a prefix that we don't really use anymore but apparently people so I was I was out yesterday with my friend Ian and we were at this place and then these two pups come in two guys and like it was like a little fun like daytime sort of like party thing at like out of space

two pups come in guys guys in their pop outfits how ppped are they just the head or they doing the whole thing? Head and torso totally all all like belted up all ppped up all ppped up above the waist up from the waist up popped up from the waist up from the waist up kind of gives like a dochi lyric.

Up, no way. Actually. It is? It is very. Yeah. Alter ego. I know my girl.

So, and I might be totally butchering this, please, I hope this makes it to threads and they have a lively spirited debate about this. They will. But. I'm sorry,

I'm crying. Okay, so. This is how I cry. Sorry, I'm crying. So, apparently. people in the pop community call like canines bio dogs

and I'm not sure about that Biodogs is so funny You're just gonna have to like It just begs to like have the terminology changed five years from now because it's like what we used to call like A-Fab queens bio queens and drag right and now it's like

No that's an A-Fab queen, great or that's just a drag queen, no need to like If you want to get tunnel down and to drill down into like the, oh, that's a fab person dressing up in female drag. Great. This is a piece of information. Every once in a while a piece of information about our community makes its way to my doorstep that asks me, how progressive are you? What are your values really? How do you feel about bio dog?

This is a moment where I have to ask questions of myself. And I'm not, I don't have the answers right now. We're not going to answer them here. And I, again, might totally have butchered that. Yeah. And I'm not going to say who told me. Yeah. It was Ian.

Ian did it. Ian did it. But I, I, I, I'm with, I'm with you. I'm like, wow, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. And I, and I don't want, because I feel like it's a dog, it's like a right-wing dog, it's like, keep that shit in the bedroom.

But I am like, but I don't know how much of that should, should, should, you know, cross the threshold. It's a great question. There are, I do think there are things like, look, gay guys, I love us. Yeah, anyways. I have questions about us in many ways. Always. There are things that we do and say and no

that were only meant for us, I think. Yeah. That once it breaks containment, I do fear that, I don't feel that straight people can fully understand what's going on with us sometimes. And so sometimes straight people learn about a thing, particularly conservative people.

They learn about like a very niche gay thing. And I'm like, baby, you were never supposed to know about that. I'm so sorry. And also it's like, I, okay, I'm going to go here because you went there, I'm going to go here. We're being vulnerable today. I do believe there should be separation

between the straight and gay communities because I don't need to mix with them. I find their morals really in the gutter. I think they're all cheating on each other. I think all straight people are liars. I've never met a straight woman that isn't cheating on her husband with someone she just met on vacation.

We're looking at the women. You all cheated on. I know you have all cheated on your partners on a vacation with your girlfriends. And that's why you want to go back to Antigua. That's the only reason why is because of the surfing instructor you met. People are cheating.

People will be cheating. And they're lying. You guys, I, okay, friend of a friend, wow, this is juicy. Go. Friend of a friend. She, woman, her husband, mega dickhead, like military asshole. Bio man. Bioman.

Bioman, mean, conservative, homophobic. All the bad things you can think of. This guy sucks. He's the worst. It was revealed to me recently at a lunch, no less. Lunch is the best place to get gone. Yeah, absolutely. Dinner starts to feel a little, it's like, oh, it's night.

We're being kind of nefarious. Lunch is like, we're walking in the light of gar. And honey, it's lunch time. And honey, it's lunch right now. Honey, I think my lunch has been served. What do you want? Wife, cheating on military husband. With?

With a man 10 years younger than her. It's not age inappropriate, by the way. It's all good. They're all in their 30s, 40s. Cheating on a man 10 years younger. And a lot. Cheating a lot. Cheating regularly.

Caring on a very explicit affair, waiting until the kid leaves high school to leave him to be with the other man. Yeah, planning to cheat. Planning to cheat. That's a whole other world of it. Planning she's cheap, but how long can she keep the plan under wraps? Oh, I don't think he's very bright.

Okay. Yeah, I think she could really do it. And women are very cunning. Yes, they are. They mostly use it for good. It's actually roller culture number 10. Women are very cunning. They think they're very smart on vacation.

But they cheat. And, you know, one time I was, actually one time, this was recent, I was talking to a straight woman and she was confiding, she felt she was confiding in, like, her gaze that she had cheated on her new husband. Not new. with someone she met on vacation, and I'm listening to her, and it took everything in me to not be like, you know what I hope is happening?

I hope your husband is cheating on you. Do you hope that? If you are cheating on your husband gleefully and, like, getting away for it, yeah, I hope he's cheating on you too. That's mutual cheating. Yeah, I would hope that someone isn't just getting cucked up, popped up from the cup, tucked up from the waist up. Say that.

Cupped up from the tuck top. Yes. From the cuffed up, from the waist up. Would you, you could be an amazing rapper. Oh, I have it within me, certainly. I definitely have it within me. I think, but I was thinking just now, vacation is such a, vacation is really what you make of it.

One hundred percent. The vacation can be cheating. It can be relaxing. It can be relaxing. It can be so many things vacation. It can be, wait, that has your real coach number 15. It can be so many things vacation. It can be cheating.

It can be relaxing. It can be museums. It can be museums. Don't forget. That's actually a really good one. Those are like the three vacations. Cheating, relaxing museums. Yeah, you can break them all down

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Open your free IHAR radio app. Search the Cito Show. And listen now. Are you an itinerary vacationer or are you a cheater? I'm a, oh, that's the binary. Well, I was experimenting. I don't love an itinerary, even though the last trip I took friends on was mostly itinerary driven. But actually, no, there was moments of loose unstructured time.

Matt, pertinent to you and your story, Matt is a newly white guy who loves Asian culture. I've been to Asia like pretty much more than America this year Are you wearing kimonos yet? Because that's where it usually ends up Do you have swords in the house? Here's what I'll say I learned how to dress myself

In the hotel last hotel that we stayed in And the outfit that they gave Oh yes, yes How would I describe that? It was it was it was like a modern Tatami sort of like Rio con sort of thing Yes and when I stepped out

In the garb And I saw myself in the mirror I said, I belong here. Wow. And that's why I'm having what I'm calling I called it to you my big Asian year. Big Asian year. Yeah. B.A.Y. It can be a very Asian year for you. And I think yeah, a lot of white guys

who go down the path of being obsessed with Asia. I'm obsessed with these guys. Most of them have never been. That's one part of the issue. Right, right. It gets into samurai swords pretty quickly. It gets into kimonos pretty quickly. It won't get there for me. It usually gets into an ironic facial hair. And right now your facial hair is looking very handsome and normal. This is kind of where I stay.

Yeah. I don't think I'll go somewhere crazy. You guys both look great. Thank you. Thank you. Likewise. I have to say, thank you very much. And I was just admiring these frames. Thank you very much. Are these new frames or are these sort of signature frames?

I want to tell you I've been wearing these for a decade plus. Yes, these are the signatures. These are the ones. Thank you. And it's seeing them in person that really is the high impact. You guys are special. You guys are special guys. You guys are special guys.

I like seeing you on this little couch. I like being in the room with you. Really? And that's why we have to do it again. I see you so often in my phone. But to see you get guys in the phone. This is nice. This is nice.

Can we just take a moment to say this is nice? This isn't nice. We need to go to dinner. It's like a jacuzzi being here. The fly. Hello. Hello. Hello.

I have to say that one thing about where I was just at, which is Pouquet. Right. You don't even need a hot tub. Yeah? It feels like a bath wherever you go. Is that true? Humid. Well, I guess it would.

How do you mean? How do you mean? I just, I guess I guess I went there at the perfect time because. And I'll tell you something. And let me ask you this question. Is it possible that there's more salt in the water, in the seawater there? Of course it's possible. I felt so amazing.

I literally, I realize, I realize that seawater really does heal. Hmm. Ocean water heals. What happened to you over there? Do you guys feel me? Anyway. Ocean water makes me. I had the most incredible vacation in Pouquet and went in the ocean.

And I literally left being like, okay, note. self, you have to go in the ocean. Yeah. So this is the thing, like, this is so well observed, by the way, this whole, like, white guy in Asian culture thing. Like, I've really thought about this ever since, like, just whenever you bring it up, because it's like, there's different, so many different ways to be white guy in an Asian culture. You can do like the Hassan Piker thing where he goes to China and now he's like China Max to the gods.

He's not white, though. Oh, sure. We'll take that out. But you know what I mean? I think leave it in. There are a many different ways to do it. Well, what's on. Are you white or what?

Okay, can I say We're saying white guy into Asian culture But it is, it literally can apply to me Where I go, I'm like one of these like weeby guys Who like goes to Japan and loves it, I go to China and I love it, I go to like I have not been south of China crazily Or north of Australia, north of five south of 20 Well, you loved parts of China

I loved parts of China No actually this this past summer I was like I see it all. You see all of China? I see, well I'm not see it all but I see I see the, I see the, the gamut of what this can be and it's pretty crazy. You described your experience at Disney Shanghai as not

being great. Because the kids are shitting on the street. Are shitting on the sidewalk. Kids are shitting on the sidewalk. Because that's Chinese culture. It's like they're from the countryside where it's like you just the kids are the kids squat. There's a little pocket. There's a little like clip on thing at the butt and then they just squat and they shit on the... There's a clip on the butt and they shit in the park. There's a little square. The flap. There's a flap on the butt.

Uh-huh. Oh and they shit on the ground. That's what I meant. I thought there was something or septical. to capture the pool, but it's just going straight to the ground. That's Chinese sort of... Not digging it. Hope that's okay to say, not digging it. No, no, there's nothing to dig. I don't like that at all.

No, there's no, like, you can clutch your pearls. Meanwhile, in Pouquet, you once, any, any person that you talk to there, any woman that you talk to there, sometimes they'll just come up and they'll go, ca. And that means? That means, like, thank you. Like, hello. Kapunkka, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like... Swati, swati, swati, ka.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I just love ka. I just, I love ka. That's really sweet. So when you're like a feminine woman, you go, and then the men go, cut. Well, it's more clipped. And there's a lot to be said about that, by the way,

if we want to dig into it. When I'm abroad, people mostly say to me, move. Or get out of the way. And do you? I try my best, but those places are so small. Yeah, that's the thing. You go to another country, they're not used to seeing a guy like me.

So they're very, very interested in me getting out of the way. And I share that interest with them. I don't want to be in the way. It's one of my least favorite things to be. Who wants to be? wants to be in the way. Oh, I hate being in the way. Love attention. Some people love being in the way. Well, they're addicted to it. Some people don't know how to

not be in the way. There's being in the way and there's being on display and I'll pick the latter. And that is my housewife's tagline. That, thank you. That was really, really beautiful and powerful. Thank you. I didn't know I had that in me until just there. I knew that you had it within you. I guess I should have more self-belief. I knew that you had it within you the whole

time. I never doubted it for a second. How long have you guys been doing the show? Ten. We just did ten years. This is we're very much in the midst of our 10 years and also our 500th episode was we were supposed to do like a big like showcase episode for it like we were going to do the 500 best things in culture stupid list and we've totally missed it and now i don't think we can we're well over 500 now literally who has the time to do a podcast i don't know i certainly do but i don't know how you guys do no no no no you don't i'll say when you when i have there have been times that you guys have put out this podcast that i have said surely someone's going to step in soon. Like you guys are so busy then I'm going, there's no way this is happening still. It seems like it's so hard.

I don't know how you guys do it. With two people. And you know what's funny? Like we thought like, oh, Bowen's up, does it now. Now the podcast can like be something like that. Like we'll do it fresh every week and it can always be topical. And it hasn't been able to be that. Yeah.

Banking is the name of the game. Banking is kind of has to be the name of the game. Any tricks for you when you bank? Like don't talk about. Yeah, tips and tricks. Don't talk about the kick cat robbery that just happened. Yeah. It did just happen.

Well, people are always trying to bring up the kickout robbery, and I hate that. Now, just, like, just chit-chatting. Like, I feel like I'm so lucky because it's just me and a guest. And so it's just my schedule to mostly worry about. I mean, Nicole, who engineers the show and Chance Who Produces it. Like, there's two. But mostly, I just get to ask questions. I just throw questions out, and then I go, that was so interesting what you said.

I have found the last few, like, big discourses that have happened. I have had, like, really, what seemed like, really unpopular opinions. Like, for example, the Timothy Chalamey stuff with the ballet and the opera, I think people were being insane about that. People were being completely insane because they're a little tired of him. Yeah, that's not fair. And that was really what it was about. The chapel roan of it all.

I could not believe that we just took what this one person, like, put on their Instagram as total fact, as total Bible, and kicked her ass again on social media, only for the security guard to come out and be like, guys, she never asked me to do that. I work at the hotel. I thought there was a problem. So I went over there. She did nothing. They have a particular problem with chapel. To me, it's so funny because every chapel discourse is like,

she will literally be like, she will literally be like, hey guys, please just like don't chase me down the street. I'm going to dinner. Right. And then the whole internet will be like, you stupid ungrateful. Yeah. How dare you? You fucking ungrateful bitch.

You, we are going to take you down. Don't come to Rio. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're banned from the city. You are disinvited from our great country. It's like, Hardin? It's really crazy. And also, Chapel is a Missouri girl.

And I have to tell you, this was never. supposed to happen to us. No. This poor girl, I'm like, this, I know, it's just so, I'm like, give that girl a break. Give her a break. I have been saying it the entire time and I'm just like, but because you want to know what else, it's so boring. Like, it, all of these things are just so boring.

How should we treat Missouri celebrities? You, Chapel, Nikki Glazer, John Ham. You know, Nikki still lives in Missouri. Yes. Yeah. I love that about her. Nikki moved back to St. Louis. You know what, the way, if you should.

should treat us is I think I get pretty lucky everyone's pretty nice to me I think most I mean it's gotten a little weird recently but most of the time I think people are very like hey you sorry love your stuff blah blah and then they like run away I love that and I'm happy to take a picture or whatever but I think just like what I mean by that is like I don't know it would be pretty jarring a lot of these people who get famous like they did have some kind of preparation they had they grew up with money or they went to like a big fancy school or they like they were around rich people at some point in their life, like, when you really come from, like, rural ass Missouri and this shit just happens to you, totally cool, awesome privileged life, wouldn't trade it.

But it is like, I really feel for chapel. I'm like, that is a fucking crazy experience. It's a very, very different weird thing. And I'm just, yeah, I wish people would give her a break. That being said, Chapel, love you girl. Please tune out to this part. The memes about it are very funny. I can't escape the fact that the memes are funny.

Always good. The memes are good. The Zelda one is really funny. Wait, what's the Zelda one? It's like it's the great fairy from n64 from O'Coreen of Time pulling Link's hair like just found this. And she's like she looks like chapel. She's got like red hair and like all this like trellacy stuff in her. Yeah.

And it's that that made me laugh. The memes are very funny. You also go on every once in a while you will pop up on my phone posting something that I have never heard about my like you. Like you'll post like some kind of cartoon figure I've never seen in my life and you'll be like back at it with this bitch. And I'm like, I don't know what these little games are but I want to come play with you. Yeah. I want to come play your little games. Please play.

I don't know them. Come, come, come. And I want to be involved. I feel like you have so many fun games. I'm really settling into this new life of just like, I can, maybe I just, I'm a little concierge for people. Maybe you should get on Twitch. That's Hassan's, that's Hassan's domain. Leave it to Hassan.

Leave it to Hassan to be on Twitch, to be talking about politics too much. Leave it to Hassan to be too much. Talking about gay guys too much. I said this, I said this when I went on a show, he was talking so freely about game and I said, Hassan, you better fuck a man or hush it up. This is what I'm saying. And I would say absolutely first in line for that. You want to fuck Hassan?

Oh, deeply. Oh, my goodness. And can I say, I think all these people like coming for Hassan want to fuck him too. I'm sure. He's handsome. I like him. I like, I like Hassan. I don't need to, no offense, brother.

I don't need to fuck him. But I think if he wants to- I don't need to fuck him. I would just be first in line if there was an option. Like, if there's going to be a sweepstakes. I think if he wants to keep talking to the Austin, the little gay guy on his podcast. Yeah. He wants to keep talking to Austin crazy about gay stuff.

He needs to fuck somebody. Has he been talking crazy about gay stuff? No, just like, he'll be like, when I went on his show, he was like, he was like, Austin's a selfish top. And I was like, let's take a pause. So what, like, what do you think that means? Let's take a pause on that. What do you think?

Let's take a pause. I want to talk to everyone about what we think that means. Okay, wait. Straight quote unquote guys, and this is again, Hazan, I believe men. Totally. But like straight guys are, they love to talk and bandy about our little terms

and multiple men at SNL well-meaning great guys would just randomly turn to me and be like God, gay guys really have it figured out. You can fuck whoever you want. They love this. And I'm like, stop. They love this. That's not true. Straight guys love to, we do not have it figured out.

I don't know if you've noticed, it's not going well for many of us. No, yeah, no. Me personally, I'm chilling, but my straight guy buddies will love to tell me nothing more than they'll just really, in a moment of weird introspection, we'll just, just be at lunch or something and they'll be like, God, the way you guys can just get a blowjob on command.

And I'm like, hey, not true. Hey, what's going on? Your wife is in the bathroom. What is going on? Like, it's really insane. But do you know that's what I'm saying? Hello. It's like whenever I feel like there's, like,

why's in the bathroom cheating? Judgment towards our community. I'm like, here's the thing. We're just so out loud and proud and exuberant about our mental illness and about like what's breaking us down and has us broken as a community and individuals wearing. But like the straits are so like repressed about how about what they're bullshit that they end up doing duplicitous mean nasty things to the people they love the most like they have not interrogated why they would make some of these choices because they haven't had shame. Yes.

Are you guys doing monogamy? Can I ask that? How's monogamy working right now? I'm open to that. I'm not familiar. Me and my boyfriend are distance. So it's like, where's he live? London. But very abroad. Good God. So it's kind of like, it's kind of one of those things where it's just like, you know, you're, you figure it out. You're, you're writing it out. Yeah. It is, it is, you know, it's never easy.

Monogamy for you? Well, I don't know. This is what I'm thinking about. I was in an open relationship most of last year. And I was always kind of making fun of open. And I was like, oh, I don't really want to do that because I wasn't dating anyone. Right. And then it came to date someone and I was like, oh, God, maybe they're on to something over there. I can't be carrying on multiple relationships

That's not for Caleb No, no, no, not that Open was fun I don't know There's some, look, I do get a little jealous I'm not gonna lie to you Of Monog Of other people

Both, no, I In open, I will say Like there are a lot of people That are open that are like, I love when my man comes home And tells me about this hot guy That he fucked and I'm like, not me I don't like it

It doesn't turn me on, I don't like it I don't mind it Knowing that I'm gone as much as I am And whatever But monogamy is coming up a lot lately and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know what's going on. Is it coming up a lot?

In my head, because I'm like, I want a family. Oh, you do, you do, you do. Eventually, yeah, I want kids. Like, that's a big goal of my life. And so I'm like, what am I going to be open with kids? Like, I'm going to have, like, a kid and be like going out to see. Like, I don't know. People do it.

I'll never. I don't understand that, but people do do it. I also, yeah, every once in a while, of course. I get swept away with the idea that I'm going to meet someone. Yeah, you get, I don't know. You guys ever get that idea that you're like, oh, my God, I'm going to meet someone that makes it so easy and fun to just lock in forever. Totally.

Am I a total freak? Am I the craziest thing you've ever heard? No, no, no. What if having kids is like the glue? That makes the open work? That makes the open work or the monog work. Well, this is a great question. That locks you in.

Yeah, what? And we'll never know. That's what I'm curious about. I don't know, but I'm just wondering about it all. I feel like also another thing is like I'm now 36 and I don't think I require or have the urges to be like thinking about being on the prowl in the way I was. Like, just monogamy in terms of energetically makes more sense because I'm like, yeah, that sounds a lot easier and I don't have to deal with someone.

You know what I mean? Like nowadays it's kind of like, it's not like it was where I could just hop on a dick when I was 25. You know what I mean? I'm just like, okay, what's going on? Yeah, I've had lunch and dinner. But is someone knocking? Because I'll answer.

Now it's like, okay, let me do the mental math here. like, I don't know. You guys on Grindr? I have it. I am on it again and I am about to shudder again. I'm just like, this is, there's nothing here. Yeah.

Also, because are you showing face on there? Yeah. Yeah. I'm getting banned a lot. So am I. I get banned from Grindy. You know, I have to text. Oh, that's so funny.

Who works at Grindrinder, this poor sweet soul who has no business getting these nasty vile texts from me. And I text him and I go, I'm in Oklahoma City. I'm as horny as I've ever been, and I've once again been banned from Grindr for impersonating Caleb Heron, which can I say that of the gay guys to impersonate, I have to imagine that Caleb Heron is not high on the list on Grindr. I don't feel like that makes a ton of sense. I say the same thing to the guys who are like, you're catfishing. I'm like a femme Asian, like. Yeah. You guys hate fat people on here. You hate Asian people on here. Like, no, I wouldn't pick Caleb. Right. You know? I wouldn't pick like, I wouldn't make, that doesn't make sense. No. We wouldn't fat caverns that way. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We wouldn't. We would. We would. We Right. I know who you catfish as when you do it, and it's never your sense. It's never me. Yeah.

It's Hudson. It's Hassan. It's Hassan. I got banned one time because I was in the Tampa area, and they were like, we knew it couldn't be you. I was like, no, I'm just weird in here. No, I just had to go to Tampa. I actually just sometimes come to Tampa.

It's like a thing about me. If you had just sent me a message, we could have gotten into it. I would have told you all about my part-time Tampa life. Yeah, I do have fun on Grindr. I am, like, regularly meeting people. off of Grindr, I would say. Really. But like,

I'm very specific about it. And I'm very like, yeah, I don't think, it's not how it was when I was like 20. I know. You know? When I was 20, I was like,

I was like, I'll do anything. I was doing A-NON when I was 20. What? Wow. I was meeting strangers without face pics when I was 20. Yeah. Can't be doing that anymore.

That's, that's Chicago 20s, you're in your 20s, you're doing anon. Say that. Say that. Say that. I had like,

I had like a, like a really, crazy six-week period on Grindr, when I was in my, like, 26, 27. I had a six-per-what-when I was seeing, like, I'll just say like four or five guys a week. Like, I was just like, I had discovered it. Yeah. And I was just like, I am on this. And it was like, I was having like a little sexual revolution in myself.

I say it's a six-week period because it had to end. I got syphilis. Of course. Totally. That's the bottleneck. The pirate STI. That'll happen sometimes. Yeah.

An STI that we truly should not even be saying if it's not in a pirate taxi. I thought it was a joke. I was like, yeah, syphilis. Sure. It's just like, no one gets that. Got it. Matt, I heard a story about you on the way over here today. What's the story?

My assistant, Michelle. Yeah. We're driving over here together. Shout out, Michelle. Love you, girl. Shout out. So sorry about everything. I'm a nightmare to work for.

She used to work at a restaurant in Brooklyn. Uh-huh. And I have to confront you. What's the rest? Oh, God, what happened? She said that you came in. And she said, you, were not very nice. I wasn't nice. No, I'm kidding. She said you were a total sweetheart.

Because can I tell you? Like, I was like, he's industry. She was like, he's the loveliest person on earth. First of all, A, I am industry. And so I go in there and I'm like, I make sure that everyone knows that. He's been on the other side. I, I, I, I, by when I say I'm industry, I mean, I'm restaurant industry for 10 years. Like I, but I was so shocked that I was possibly capable of that. I know. Well, no, I'm totally kidding. What restaurant? dinner party. Okay, yeah. Okay, yes, yes, yes.

For somebody's birthday? Yeah, said you were lovely, and I just thought that was really sweet. I was really scared because when she said, I was like, oh my gosh, like, I love Matt. I hope this is a good story. Because I will say when I hear,

when I hear, like, somebody would be like, oh, Renee Zellweger came into my coffee show. I feel bad that Renee got the pole. But like any celebrity. We only say her because she's noted lovely. She's lovely. But it's like, they'll say some random celebrity

and they'll be like, they were kind of rude to me. And I'm going, I don't really believe that or listen to that, only because it's like, so many times I'll hear someone say that and I'm like it sounds like they were just like kind of in a rush and having a bad day They didn't like dress you down in front of everyone or something. They were just like I spin a latte, you know, and it's like that's not mean. That's just being a person who has 20 things to do

So I wondered and then it was that you were well I'm happy that that ended the way it did that story because I will tell you people acting crazy like that in restaurants. I can't abide by it. Bowen and I had a beautiful night at Veselka once. Oh really? Do you remember our faded night? I do I do. I do. But I do. Do you do? Do you do? Do, do. Do you we talk about it because I think it was best case I think things happen exactly how they should have they were meant to well I it was funny because you were writing for SNL and and this is years ago this is 2019 yes this is this is after my first season you were screen testing it wasn't your first right your first season writing yes yes yes yes yes I was like I was like going to go can we go can we like go out and get food after my thing and we bowen took me to Veselka and I was like I feel

like I was like you're going to be on the show right You told me that? I feel like we talked about it. Yeah, and I was like, even back then I was like, I don't know. I think like I just literally was like they would never put an Asian person on. And I was like, they're not going to put two gay guys on. Right. So I left that meal being like, Bowen's getting on the show and this was a fun exercise, but like, I'm not getting this job.

And then that is what happened. But it was, it was so, you were so sweet and lovely to me. And I was nervous about the things. I was terrible to the staff. You were horrible to the staff. You berated them. And then Matt came in just to be mean to them and then left. Didn't even like have a bite with us.

Came in, berated them left. Yeah. Awesome. And I made sure it was Michelle. Yeah, yeah. Get Michelle out here. Yeah. Get out of here.

Fuck you. Bring her in, get her out. But it was so lovely and sweet. That was nice. That was Chicago days. What was the year, what was the year post that you defected? From Chicago? From Chicago.

I left Chicago, if you can possibly believe it, in May of 2020 to move to Los Angeles. Okay. Well, at that time, that was kind of a, that was the time. Because L.A. was, you know, quote on. quote, nicer place to be at that time. Totally nice. So you could be outside. And I was driving for Uber Eats at the time.

I had no job. I had quit my job to do comedy full time in January of 2020. Let's all have a laugh. And I thought, I thought things were on the up. And then COVID happened. Nothing happened. I was making no money. So I was driving for Uber.

And I was like, I'd rather be driving for Uber with the windows down. Yeah. While people are dying left and right all winter. Yeah. I was like, let me get out there. So I moved to LA then. Love. Yeah.

I mean, it's all like, like, we're just a little, paths to virgin wood and then meeting back up again. Isn't it so cute though? Like guys, we've been doing this for a minute. And that it's now at the point where it's just like, oh like, how long have I known Bowen and the answer is 17 years? Jesus Christ.

That's crazy. It's going to be half our life soon. Half our life soon. That feels crazy just to quantify like your adult life is... Met you in 2008, so what? Do we round up and say 18? Technically. Technically. And a couple years you guys will have had more life knowing each other than you did when before you knew each other. I know.

You know what I mean? That's where I am with New York City. I'm like, I've spent most of my life here. It's the only place I've been an adult in. Am I robbing myself of something? Don't know. How do you mean? Like, by saying like, oh, I haven't lived anywhere else.

But he knows where he's going when everything goes down. Where you going? Ontario. Really? Why is that? Lake Muscoca. Just lakes. Just there's no, there's no.

If you look at all the map overlays, it's like no wildfires, no tornadoes, no earthquakes, no floods. He's got his like prepper. It's interesting nowadays. I think we all got to be preppers. No, it's interesting nowadays because you talk to people and you realize some people in your life have fully prepped. Like we are our friends who's a couple, I was over there at their apartment like a few months ago. And they go, yeah, we're both getting guns. And I'm like, what?

And they go, well, when the grid goes down, we both need a gun in case one of us goes. I was like, excuse me? They were like, yeah, well, if one of us goes, and we're like, yeah, well, if one of us goes, If one of us goes down, you need someone to cover it. I was like, you guys have really thought about like... Who are these people, these lesbians? Yeah, guys. See, it's the lesbians that are doing it to me.

And I heard something even more concerning recently. I was at a lesbian, more concerning than gun, if you can believe it. I was at a lesbian's house recently. They told me that they said, yeah, several of us just got walkie-talkies. I said, I'm not paying attention to them. I very clearly am not tapped into what you guys are. For their compound that they're, like, already like... I said walkie-talkies.

If it comes walkie-talkie-talkie time, give me the gun. If it comes walkie-talkie-talkie-time... I'm not doing walkie-talkie time. Well, I go, I go, like, if the grid goes down, I'm out. I'm sorry, I'm killing myself. I'm not doing walkie-talkies. I am not doing walkies. I'm not doing generators.

I'm not, because then, what, we're camping, and I hate that. I'm not camping. My love, when my Wi-Fi goes out, I almost jump out a window. I'm not surviving when the grid goes down. Not at all. The things I find the space in my heart and soul to complain about, my current present life, Yeah. You wouldn't want to see me.

Also, it can't be that those things are called walkie-talkies as the technical term. No. No, no. There's got to be a more technical term, right? Whatever it is, when the grid goes down, those nails, bye-bye. No. God, don't do close-ups on them. It's really embarrassing.

No. I'm not doing walkie-talkies. I'm not doing survivalist stuff. I will come to the lake with you for a little bit if I can still, like, drive. But I'm not, if the grid goes down, I'm not doing it. One of my friends drew a map, drew a hand-drawn map. Hot. I guess of how to get from.

New York to this piece of land that their family owns in Pennsylvania in case we need to escape, I said, yeah, I'm just not, I'm obviously not reading the things you guys are reading. I'm not, I can't be involved in. We're running different races. Yeah. Like, you're trying to fight like, like, with people. I'm like, again, fighting with my microwave to work. Yeah. I'm like, what is going on? I have a different challenge. Oh, the whole grid is fully working better than ever. Yeah. And I'm barely surviving. The grid is up. Yeah. And I'm barely getting by. I mean, in theory, it's Ontario for me, but it's like, who know. Like, at that point, I just, I just hope I'm there when shit goes down.

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And listen now What do you guys want out of your life Can I ask you an earnest question? Yes We think gay guy We'd been vulnerable What else can we be? Ernest

I think we can be all sorts of things That's really what this podcast has What do you guys really want? What do I really want? You know what? I think I would like I think I like my life And I like the way it's developing

And I want it to continue But it's I stopped Like I said the other day I was like, I don't really believe anymore in making plans after like six months, like six months ahead. It's like I can see my schedule and I can see what I'm doing for a few months. But like I don't,

I couldn't wrap my head around a five-year plan or a grand plan for my life because I feel like that would weirdly be limiting. I'm like open to things because I've surprised myself so far, I think. And then in terms of like, you know, the romantic stuff and like all of that, Like I think that right now I'm in the mode of like I just want to follow good feelings and what is meant to be will be. Yeah. But I can't. I don't know.

I can't. I can't. It's not that I can't make goals anymore. It's just that like I don't think it would be useful for me. I'm just kind of like, let's just see. Everybody's feeling that way. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't think anyone can see the future, which is a real. I don't know if that's new or if that's like always been kind of happening or what. But I really don't think so many people living right now that are like, our age or younger, are really thinking 20 years from now and going like, I know what that'll look like. Because this is the first time in society. Someone was saying this on what, like Al Jazeera or something. Like this is the first time in society where we are mourning the future in advance. Right. That was pretty scary.

We're not. This is the first time as a people that we're like, oh, 20 years from now, well, that's, that's. It's so uncertain that like I can't. And that puts you in a crazy existential funk where you're like, what the fuck am I supposed to do now if like if I, there's nothing to reap like in 20 years. I just watched this incredible documentary called join or die. Have you all seen this?

Join or die. Join or die. Has anyone heard of this? What's join or die? It's so wonderful. This guy, and I don't remember anyone's names from it, sorry. But this researcher or research for a long time like like governments and like societies and like little different like regions

and I think mostly in Italy at first and then he came back to the states, he's from the states. He basically did research on like what makes people feel cohesive? Like what is the basis of community? Like what makes rich community where people feel bought into their democracies

and like what is that thing? And he basically started charting it with like involvement in social groups like Kiwanis or the Elks Lodge or choirs or like choral groups or you know these things that we used to have so many social clubs like the women's suffrage movement.

started at like a women's social club. And like like many of like W.B. De Bois's like speeches came at like social clubs, like places where people gathered to be like part of like societies and things. Like third spaces. Exactly. But the as like mistrust in the government and like disenchantment with democracy has gone up and like a pretty straight line inversely,

association with like groups has gone down. And I was so fascinated by this. It's a really, really good documentary. It's on Netflix. Shout out you guys. Shout out. Shout out. You're doing great things.

Love y'all. And all the streamers. And all the streamers. Yeah. I just love the guys. Physical media. I hope everything streams forever. And it will.

And stop sending movies to theaters, by the way. Can we stream them? And it was really, really good though. It was really fascinating. And I was like, oh, yeah, we're really not in groups anymore. Because and like the perfect sort of recipe for whatever, like, little manipulative. things is like there's there's a reason like we're less and less motivated to go and and seek out these spaces and clubs and stuff yeah because we're on our phones we're on our phones and

also there's not there's no real belief I think on the on on a masco I just was reading maybe yesterday morning about this town I think it was in Oklahoma that their city council and their mayor you're obsessed with Oklahoma by the I love Oklahoma can't get enough of it yeah cannot get enough of it right shout out to Oklahoma readers what are your other ones Katie Katie Katie Freeders, Katie's Publissies, Publiss and Kyle. Oklahoma fans of this show. Shout out. They're their own subgroup now.

Yeah. Oklahoma. Yeah. Oklahomaans. Yeah, I can't do it right now. But I was reading something that this town, they approved a giant like AI data center, the city council. And the town like got together

and like marched into city hall and turned in like a fully signed petition to have all of them recalled. Everyone on city council and the mayor entirely put up for like recall vote immediately. And it was like this surge of like they do not want this fucking data center. They're being sold out by their officials.

But it's, you need, it needs to be on that kind of scale for people to believe that we can affect change because we can. It just needs to be scaled down to where it's like manageable to take bites. Yeah. Like somebody was saying like the other day, it's like even with the protests,

like I feel like we were often hearing like this was the largest protest in history or like this was the biggest day. Like it still feels like when you zoom out and look at what's happening in the world. I understand that thought of like, okay, well, how many times have we heard that? And yet it feels like the world is getting worse and worse and worse. But then when you think of community on a small scale, it's very easy for me to think about people walking into a town hall and making change because people would be forced to listen. I think what's like so shitty is it's like it doesn't matter anymore how large like a voice we are

saying we don't want something. We're so separated from the people that can make change and make power. and they're so siloed off from us that it's like totally fruitless. Yesterday they did like attacks the rich rally in the Bronx and someone was like, it was great. Like it was just like people who already know this. But like what they were like so like, I don't know, like it felt like interesting. Like we weren't sure like where this was all going.

And I was like, oh no, the fact that you guys even like gathered is kind of like the win. Right. It's like what you're saying. It's like these movements start out of literal like biomass like. living, breathing creatures, like coming together for whatever reason. Yeah, I'm really of two minds about it because I feel also that I had this conversation with a lot of friends after like 2016, because it was a very funny experience for me as someone who had lived my whole life up into that point in Missouri that so many of my friends on the

coasts for the first time were being like, we got to pay attention to the middle of the country. And I was like, oh, were you guys not? I was like, oh, I was. And so that was really interesting to me. I learned a lot from that moment. And then I have this kind of feeling that I'm like, something is going to have to give eventually with the fact that like so many people like leftist, like goodhearted people who really want a brighter future for all of us. We say that things are so dire right now and we say that like this is really as bad as it can get. It is so existential.

And then the truth is that if a bunch of us moved to other places and started like having hard conversations, I think we have the winning argument. I think good people who want a better future that is not controlled by a handful of billionaires actually have the winning argument. argument and a lot of working people who don't vote the way we think maybe they should agree with us. Yeah. If we if it's so existential, a bunch of us are going to have to move to places like Ohio and get to work, and we're not doing that. And so that's okay, but we're going to have to like eventually do something about the cognitive dissonance of the statement that things are existentially dire and we we have to take drastic measures. And then also nobody wants to move to West Virginia. The thing is though, I feel like, like, yes, it's okay that people don't do that, but if if that's not,

going to be the case. If we're not going to engage with them in like a real way like that, then we have to at least, I think, make sure we're not siloing off in a media way. Right. I really want, and this was almost, and I don't think so honey for me, but it's not. But what I really want is for Democrats to start being who Republicans say they are. Yeah. There's Republicans keep saying that Democrats are these like transgender leftist radicals who want to like destroy the billionaire class. And then you cut to Chuck Schumer. And it's like, he's not on estrogen. He's not sucking dick. He's not doing anything for working people.

There's just nothing. And then their whole pitch, like Gavin Newsom's whole pitch is like, hey, I'm not so different from the Republicans. And it's like, well, bitch, can you be? Right. Can somebody be? Does anyone have any interest in being different than these fucking cretans? Like, yeah. It makes me feel fucking crazy because you look at a place like Missouri where Trump wins by, you know, 14, 15, 20 points, whatever. And then abortion, they pass the strictest abortion being in the country. And then they put it up for a referendum.

And the people vote it down by three points. So that's a 20 plus point swing between Trump. winning and a very contentious progressive issue winning with the same voters. Same thing with legalized marijuana. Same thing with raising the minimum wage and giving people paid sick leave. All very leftist ideas. They're winning on the same ballots that Trump is winning. So we very clearly have a candidate problem.

And I think if the solution was people like Gavin Newsom coming in with like a slick haircut and not wearing a tie, so we think he's regular, spare me, coming in and parroting the same things they're talking about, we've already had that choice. We've already had that choice and it didn't work. So I just feel crazy all the time. I feel fucking crazy. I mean, I was watching something yesterday about like, well, it looks like Kamala Harris is running again. And so that means that her and Gavin Newsom will be at the top of the polls.

And I'm like, well, that just sounds like a lot of wasted time. Guys, why? Because. Let's run someone crazy. Let's run someone, let's run a fucking, like, kooky leftist art teacher from like Middlebury, Ohio. Let's run someone nuts. Let's just go crazy with it. I just don't think, I'm sorry, but I just don't think Kamala and Gavin are going to do it.

No. I really don't. I mean, it's just never going to happen. I, it's, because it just goes back to the thing of what people didn't like, I think, holistically, was that he was the type of, like, you can even tell him the way he does his hair and the way he talks. And he comes out and says things like, we need to be more culturally normal. And that's going to, like, what does that mean? What does that mean? What, yeah, what exactly do you mean by that?

And he is, like, so slyly, or he thinks he's so slyly homophobic. Meanwhile, it just is homophobia. Also, any, any Republican with any level. of like acumen is going to destroy him on that culturally normal shit. I know he thinks he's courting middle voters, but brother, you grew up rich in California. Yeah. Your culturally normal thing is not going to fly in the middle of the country. Like it doesn't fly with me.

I'm like culturally normal. I don't feel anything like you. And it's not because I love trans people. I do. But it's like I don't feel related to you at all because you're like a slick career politician who you want to be president so bad that I like, ew, ew, I hate it. That being said, I think of getting. gay guys with podcast per president.

This country would be in such a good place. Oh, God. But he's always, he's always, you know, I'm confident we could do it. I think we can do it. And that's how we make a great team. Rogers Heron looks good on a long time. In Supreme Court?

You would be incredible on the Supreme Court. You would be incredible on the Supreme Court. Yeah. You in that robe? I was going to say. Thank you. Why did you want to push back so bad, though? No, no.

I was just thinking I was like, because he wants to move to Canada. I want to move to Canada. I don't want any of this. Speaking of culturally normal. Oh, my God. Wait,

we haven't asked Caleb the question. We haven't even asked Caleb the question, which is how did you become culturally you? Caleb, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Okay, let me ask you, is this supposed to be one thing?

No, it can be anything. It can be like, it can be Missouri. It can be like a movie, a show, a song, a singer. It can be any.

Yes. Okay, I have so many things to say. But wide open spaces, album by The Chicks. Wide Open Spaces, the album by The Chicks. Formerly Dixie.

Formerly Dix. We're not doing that anymore. The Chicks. That album has everything. It has your mom and your aunt scream singing along in the car. It has heartbreak. It has killing a man who cheated on you.

Sorry, abused you. It has, he probably cheated too. It has, it has fun. Dance tunes. It has fiddle. Wide Open Spaces by the Chicks is one of the greatest pieces of art.

ever seen in this country. Thank you. And it really is what the American project was all leading to. Since then, who knows what happened? White Open Spaces by the Chicks. God, I love those ladies. Yeah. The American Project ended and failed when, when, you know, when the whole fucking thing

happened. Yes. When they got in trouble, by the way, most people don't even remember this. When the chicks got in trouble. They were right. Not only were they right, but they didn't even say anything that crazy. It was one concert in Paris or London. Yeah.

Where Natalie says, we just went to. you all to know, we're on the good side with you. We are ashamed of this war and we're ashamed the President of the United States is from Texas. That's a fucking softball. I said crazier things. That is insane. They were right and they should be

God, I love them so much. I could cry. I love them. They're so special. And Natalie Mainz is so principled. Absolutely. And so talented. And I love her.

Yeah. I love this. And you know what's crazy is it's like the the gas lighter album. So good. Which I also love, which was their most recent album. I'm like, I hated that it got tougher for her.

Yeah. Because her fucking husband, the guy for Adrian Pasadar from Heroes, which was such a disappointment as a Heroes fan, that he was such like a, you know, what is it, tights on my boat? Yes, that's about that. Like, that was so disappointing. I'm like, wow, this woman couldn't even catch a fucking break. Brought her backstage at the Hollywood Bowl?

Yeah. Adrian Pasadar, it is on site, brother. It's really on sight. If I see you in the streets, we need to have minimum a strongly worded conversation. Yep. Maximum, glove up, let's box. He's not on the streets anymore. I don't know where he's out.

He's too scared. No, there's no way. But White Open Spaces, this, when did you encounter this album? Wide Open Spaces came out in the late 90s, so I was a very young, I mean, most of my early, my mom is like my biggest inspiration in the world, and like pretty much everything good about me

is because of my mom. And most of my, like, music taste comes from my mom, like, blaring songs in the car. Yeah. And us, like, driving somewhere. I mean, we just always had to go somewhere. Like we always had to go like she was always rushing to get to work and drop us off at the babysitter or like we had to go to like like they just feels like we were always driving. Yeah.

Because we were. And yeah, I just, she would play. I feel like I really came to understand when I got a little bit older that like country music by women at that time was really giving framework for a bunch of women who didn't have like a formal education. Yeah. Giving them a framework for feminism. And it's not like they were sitting around chatting like that. But it was the feeling of like I never saw. the women in my life so alive is when they were listening to the chicks and shenaya twain and jody

martina martina mcbride faith hill like the list goes on and on and on and we and wilmac like it just really yeah it made them light up in a way and i think it's because it was like music for them about their lives it was so empowering and so i really fell in love with that music because i saw all the women in my life like come alive to it yeah and yeah the women of my life were always just genuinely for the most part funnier and like more vibrant and interesting than the men who were talking over them. And the talking over women thing has become like kind of like it got like beat over the head nauseatingly, I feel like to a point. But really when I was growing up was like these women couldn't get a word in edgewise

and they were funnier and smarter. And that drove me fucking insane. And yeah, seeing them like listening to like the chicks and singing along, I just felt that there was something going on that was like very special. And I fell in love with it because it was just the best feeling in the world. See, and I also wonder in the aftermath of all that happening, how frustrating that must have been for women who probably were being told by their husbands,

like, we don't fucking like them anymore. Like, we're burning their albums and doing the CDs and like how shitty it must have felt. Yeah, I also feel like, I don't want to, I want to make sure that when I say that there wasn't a formal education around feminism, the women in my life were feminist in ways that people who have only studied in a classroom

could never, like, their feminism was still important and real and powerful. they were taking stances and making swings and stuff. I just mean like... Formally. Formally. Like there wasn't this thing that I experienced when I went to college where a bunch of people were sitting around talking about ideas

and being like, this is why this should be this way. And like this is an example of this. Like it was more just this lived experience of like, yeah, these shitty annoying men. Yeah. Like ruining your life at every turn. And you just kind of having like, I think like, yeah, I don't want to be... There are many women I have known in my life that have had to stay with a man

because they just could not afford to live without them. Right. And the things you have to put up with to be in that situation, yeah, one of the only times I saw them feel really like, like, really lit up was when they were listening to this kind of music. Because they were- It is liberating music. Yeah, they were telling stories of like what it might be like to like,

and I think that's, there's a catharsis and being like, what if we just killed them? You know what I mean? Like, there's like, that's what I love about music is like, you live in a different world for three and a half minutes. And like, for three and a half minutes, people were living in a world where it was like, you know, I cathartically had this experience

and listening to this song where I, I fucking killed my husband with my best friend. Or I got, I helped my friend that I'm seeing struggle out of a situation. It didn't actually happen. But cathartically and like, you know, metaphorically was lived in. Right. But it's like, the thing about music is that it is accessible. Yeah.

You don't have to like, at the time, you don't have to like pop Thelman Louise in the VCR and like watch a story or a parable portraying like feminine power in this way. You can just like turn it on the radio or you could like pop the CD in the car as you're driving as it's like in the weather of your life like the like just is in the climate of your life. Yeah. Like that's the tricks are fucking major. I'm I'm I need

to go back and really give wide open spaces like a full list like like track to track listing because I always go to fly. Fly is my incredible album. Incredible album. But White Open spaces you're right. That is like just the three of them on that cover just like light on their feet. Well that was like that and fly were like

the wide open spaces in that were like the peak. commercial peak peak. Yeah. And the music was great. Yeah. But also, but not ready to make nice was also, but what was the, oh, taking the long way. That is just like, that's the album of the year when where you're like, fuck yes. At least that was like the only, like the vindication that we could have hoped for at the time.

Now I think long term, it's like, of course we're all like on the same page about the chicks. It's unfortunate what happened to them. But like them winning album of the year for taking the long way. And I thought Gaslighter was like a success. I loved Gaslighter. success though. I feel commercially it did well, right? I think so. It was deep in the pandemic when it came out. I don't know how much it was like. Yeah, I don't know. I remember I would listen to it constantly when it came out. I loved them. How do you sleep in night? Oh, my God. That music video is great too. In Texas, man. Ooh, yeah. Also, another one did you guys ever see, I'm always evangelizing about this. Did you guys ever see Monique's Queens of Comedy set? Yes. This set changed my life. Wait, and also, I'm sure you've seen. I'm sure you've seen. the one where she went to the women's prison? No, I'm not.

Oh, she has such an incredible set at a women's prison where she goes and it was just, they were living for her and I was just like, people don't talk about her talent as a stand-up. They don't talk about her talent across the board enough anyway. They disrespect her at every turn.

She's been ahead of it at every turn with the open relationship stuff with like, I'm not shaving my fucking legs. Hello. I'm not campaigning for an Oscar. Like, I'm not doing this shit that you're telling me to do. Monique is everything.

Her Queens of Comedy set was one of the first times. I mean, I grew up in such a, like, fatness was either, like, a bad thing or a joke. Like, best case being fat was a joke. Worst case and more normal was it was, it was, like, this horrific thing to be. Like, oh, my gosh, if you were ever, if anyone was fat, it was like, they were, like, dying to change it. And it was really seeped into, like, my personhood.

And Monique was genuinely the first time she opens that Queens of Comedy set. She came out and, like, she was big fat woman at the time. And she came out in this, like, leatherette, like, sexy, slinky little thing. And she walked out and she was like, every fat bitch in this room should be on their their feet clapping for me right now. Yeah. She was like, skinny bitches don't have. what it takes.

Yeah. Skinny bit, like it just like. They just like, she just like went in and I have, I had never seen a fat person like own a room like that. Yeah. And it was genuinely one of the first times that I was like,

oh, maybe I don't have to hate myself. Like maybe there is a reality where I can just like myself and feel confident. And I owe so much of my like six, like any success I have or any like, um, confidence I have on stage. I genuinely owe at least in part to watching that set for the first.

100%. It's so good. But if you're listening to this, readers, publicist, Oklahoma publicist, I'm coming to you now. If you have not seen this set, go watch it. It's really fucking amazing. Also, like, that set 100% and then this prison set I'm referencing, I'll never forget.

One of the bits in any early stand-up I watched at that time that stuck with me was hers from that prison set. It was her reckoning with homophobia. And I remember at the top, the homophobia that she was feeling. And I remember at the time I was probably like 14, 15, 16 years old, so hyper aware of when someone was being homophobic, especially in a stand-up comedy set, because I was like, I really wanted,

I respected the art form and knew I wanted to do it someday or something like it. And she went on this run about how like, she was pretty sure that one of her sons had a gay friend. And she was like, and this gay kids coming over, and I'm like, what the fuck? And then she did this run about how like her son looked at her and was like,

what do you care if he's gay? He's a good person and like I love him and like it's not a big deal. And she was like relating it to how she knew a lot of the women in the audience were lesbians. She's like, who here's gay? And there was like, yeah. And it was just like this way to reckon with this ugly thing about her that she recognized was a part of like the fabric of what she thought at the time. But like she was working through it in a real way that didn't feel. icky as an audience member or didn't make me feel shitty as a little gay boy watching it. I was just like, this is how you, I think, you know, walk through like a phobia that you had. And maybe this could be a note that, you know, every iconic male straight comedian that's, you know, aged up now could take.

But it was just more interesting for her to unpack what she needed to unpack than to be like, this is what I don't get. This is what I don't get. this is what I don't get. It was just, it was more developed, and you're right, I think, is because it was her womanhood that was allowing her that lens. Yeah, she gave permission. She really gave so many people permission to be themselves.

Yeah. Genuinely. I love her so much. And she gave us the iconic quote, the whore jumped out. The whore jumped out. Your behavior was horror-like. Hoar-like, and the hoar jumped out. And jumped out.

And jump back in. Charm School was, we owe so much to Monique on Charm School. and it's not even like top 10 of what we owe her thank you for but goddamn she was so good on charm school that's why there's no rules is because it was after charm school that she won the Academy Award that's why I say there's no rules in entertainment you can do anything as long as you're good enough because Monique like hosted Charm School

and then after that won the most prestigious award within like three years after Charm School won and deservedly so and by the way didn't do the whole campaign bullshit yeah no just just completely annihilated any job she's ever been given in a way that is also singular and memorable and real star quality because there's not another moni no there's not another moni in so many different ways there's not her like vocal delivery her cadence her like her point of view her bravery her courage her choices artistically there's just not she just doesn't get the credit and she played a horny inappropriate

freaky legend on the parkers and we have to have to thank her for that she was chasing that man down the halls and it was inappropriate but really funny and i love her so much i would also say one of one of the top ten things that i think we do oh her for is in beer fest when she was when she said i'm a break your dick off when she was riding someone's penis i'll never forget the beer her performance in beer fest and you can it's supporting actress nomination was deserved for beer fest as well A film that I'll remind you exists. When did that come out?

I mean, had to be 2006 or 2007 because the peer pressure that I must have felt to go see that. The peer pressure can only be described if I was there it had to be during the time

where it was socially advantageous for me to attend the film. If I was seeing beer fest at Islet movie theater it must have been 2006. These are phenomenal answers, Kayla. I could go on and on and on. Yeah, these are those are two

that really stick out to me. also the movie miscongeniality. Of course. Hello. Give some favorite elements of the film. Sandra Bullock is, once again, one of the best things that we have to offer the world as human beings and in the universe, really. I would hold her, I would put her in a very small class of people that we should show to the, we should give her work to the aliens to say, this is what we can do. Yeah.

Yeah. This is what a movie star is. This is what a movie star is. Bring that back. I mean, she really is so, there are a million, million moments, but really I was rewatching it recently. and one of the moments of psychotomy has been she's on the plane, okay, going to get her makeover

and she's watching the videos of like the queens. Like she's trying to learn how to give an acceptance speech. Yeah. And she's like, and she's like really going for it. Yeah.

I just was like, God, to be as like charming and genuinely good at acting and also fucking DNA funny as she is. Yeah. Many people think they have it and they just... And they just...

I will never forget the way she says when Benjamin Brat brings his like hot new girl to like the bar and she's eating ice cream. He's like, I'll take a gin and tonic and she'll have

and then Sandra goes, milk. Milk. So good. So many people, yeah, we just don't have enough Sandra Bowles.

Shatner, Candy Bergen. Oh, Candice Bergen is so fab. When Candis Bergen stands up and the crown is perfectly on top of her head and the, hello.

Talk about directing a film. Let's talk about directing a film. We're not directing films anymore. No, we're not. The crown should be placed. Yeah, honestly, that was good.

And I also like Ben. Benjamin Bratt, he was an iconic haughty of the time. Michael Kane, legendary performance. So good. He's with me. He says, he's with me. He says, the year we lost, the girl was a deaf mute. You can't compete with that.

You can't compete with that. It's so funny. Please. This woman has no talent. Legend. Legend. Will you desist? Desist.

So good. That movie's amazing. It's amazing. It's incredible. They just had, oh, God. I just took the flight back. from Thailand and they had like Sandra Bullock's entire

discography. Thank God. And I did choose to watch discography discography by the her sound, her unique sound. Imagine she had like, she was famous enough at one point where she could have been like I'm doing music. Remember when Reese Whitherspoon flirted with that after Walk the Line? They were like, well you know

she's so good and walked the line. But they were like maybe she released an album and I believe that that was like flirted with for a second, but no. Because this is the year when Scarjo was coming out with music. Like, the girls were, the girls of that ilk were, like, coming out with, with songs. Oh, it'll happen for me. I'll do it. Anne Hathaway, have you heard her song Burial?

No. Sorry, Anne. So, Mother Mary. She's done a song with Charlie XX, X, X, X, X, Jack Antonoff. And I believe she co-wrote on it. Yes. Oh, my God. It's called, this is your burial.

Oh, my God. She's giving, like, sort of Gaga, Charlie XXXX, X, Pop Star, and her other movie coming out next month. It's called Mother Mary with Michaela Cole where she plays like it's like a sapphic like pop stars sort of like weird freaky deaky little. And by the way

talk about another person that we should give up to the aliens to show what we're capable of. Anne Hathaway. Anne's performance in of course everything but we can we do not talk enough. Richard getting married? About what's that now? Rachel getting married. Keep going. Keep going. Okay. But let me raise you this. Her performance in

Brokeback Mountain. Oh please. Her on the phone when she just goes, she just makes a little noise. Hello? It's called acting and we don't see it enough anymore. No. She's so goddamn good in that movie. She's so fucking good in it.

She looks incredible in Western shirt. Everyone else got all the air, but like, and I also appreciate that movie for what it did for Michelle Williams, and she deserved that. Yes. But Anne got lost in the conversation, and she was giving a great blonde performance. Yes.

She was phenomenal. She was phenomenal in that movie. And I, yeah, she really is. What was the one you were saying? Rachel getting married. I haven't seen it. Crash has a car. Oh, you're going to love Rachel getting married.

She's proud of it. She's like in recent interviews has been like I, like, they asked her like what's like an undersung role of yours? She's like, I'm really proud of Rachel getting married and as she should be. I'm going to watch it. I got to say too. I did recently watch, rewatch the clip of I Dream to Dream and you forget she did it in one take. Yep.

Like it was done it was done live in one take right there in her face. And you think like, because Lea Miz kind of when you look back at it, are like, oh, iffy about like the, the very close up singing and sort of the way it was done. She killed it really singing and using her voice and acting it in a way that was. Oscar worthy? She's not fucking around. Can you tell us about the big film? That was part of two.

Do you know what is so funny, you guys? When I had kind of like sworn off auditioning for the moment when that audition came through, I was like, I'm not really auditioning right now. I'm really tired of like going out for stuff. Yeah. And just kind of like not really, I felt like I was self-tapping all the time. We all go through air.

I was like that where it's like, I'm self-tapping constantly. The things I end up getting are from a friend anyway. Right. I just was like, I can't do it for a moment. I need some space to breathe. And then this one came through.

And I literally in my head was like, if someone asked me to put $5,000 down on if I would get it or if one of you or like Benny Skinner would get it. I almost didn't audition because I was like, this is so one of those guys. Like I was like, this is like a Matt Bowen,

Beny. And I taped for it anyway And it was so fucking fun It was so cool And I By the way Someone should put us And Benny in a movie

The four of us Please We'll write it Hello Someone write down That we have to write that Someone take a note Remind me to write this film

Can someone just write that down But it was so fun It was crazy to be a part of And Anne is so Like most I think Disney people Will tell us if I'm allowed

To say this or not But most of my stuff is with Anne in the movie and she's so phenomenal. I think that Disney adults would tell you. Disney adults will let me know. Disney adults will let me know what I'm allowed to say it. Anything's possible. They're wearing the hat.

I almost more on Mickey Waffle sweater today. That would have been really cute. I know. Okay, so I almost got on a tangent about Mickey. Okay, so. My mentally ill brain. So, okay, you and Ann, most of your stuff is with Ann. She's so lovely.

Yes. She's so lovely. I hadn't had the pleasure of meeting her until the film. warmest, loveliest, most energetic, like really made me go inward about how much energy I bring to work. I was like, I need to step up. Like, if Anne Hathaway is as busy as she is

and she's bringing this level of like, I think I'm a warm, energetic person, but she was bringing, to the point where I literally at one point was like, Anne, I just have to say, like, the level of energy you bring every day is psychotic. I do not know how you're doing it.

Like, I'm so in awe. And I'm like, how do you find the energy? And she's like, I just tell myself that I have it. And I'm like, you are on another level than me. When I tell you, she's going before shot, she's going into like what's supposed to be her office and being like hey you guys can we talk really quick like can we collab like I think this vase would be different for her and can we move this over here like a true fucking artist yeah and not in an annoying way in a way that's like genuinely respectful of everyone's craft like knew what everyone did like yeah I just was very her and and Marilyn Stan like all of them watching them work I was just like wow this is really I knew it would be cool because I'm a huge fan and I like watched the original as like a closeted 11 year old boy in Missouri and like it yeah I could cry like it was just so sweet and cool but she was um she

was a delight and such a true talent it's crazy fuck yeah a true pure talent going from like conversing like this to being like uh all right and speeding and then just fucking into it acting like I don't know it feels sometimes silly to compliment people on the things that are like yeah they snap right into character and they knew all their lines but it's like she's so busy and she's operating at such a high level on and off the camera I yeah I'm I'm a huge fan and I'm very inspired by her actually. Oh my god, Caleb, that's not, no, this is, this is so worth talking about, like, yes, we're talking about someone who's, like, acclaimed at their craft, but it's, like, it's important to, like, kind of pop up in the hood for other people and just for us, like,

amongst ourselves, amongst friends. It's like, oh, because then it, like, gives it a reason for being. Then it, like, motivates, like, if we're lucky enough to, like, be in front of the the camera again in that capacity, then, like, yeah, like, you're inspiring my ass to be like, oh yeah you can be like collaborative in that sense and like way in because I am so used to like the pecking order of the call sheet or whatever and I'm like okay like I'm not I'm not like number one here let me like let everybody else make the decisions for me but it's like I'm just saying like please talk about this stuff yeah it's really inspiring I'm like very I fucking love acting so much and getting to watch people do it at that level and people who have like or look if if

if Ian Hathaway or Merrill Streep or Stanley Tucci wanted to be nightmares on that set, they could totally get away with it. And people do. And they just opt not to. And I feel like, yeah, I just feel very inspired by that. And it makes me even more frustrated with the people who show up late and don't know their lines and things that I'm like, look, if Anne Hathaway can show up on time, be kind to everyone in a fucking 20 mile radius and like genuinely give warmth and attention to

everyone and know her lines and kill the performance and care. I'm like, you can do it too. You can do it. You know what I mean? And I'm mostly talking about men. but yeah I just am so inspired by her work ethic and yeah being part of the movie too is really fucking cool so excited you know what's kind of what movie two is kind of like

it feels like there's like a reassessment of it happening is interstellar it feels like it keeps coming up yeah if like over the past like six months or so I keep hearing people being like actually have you watched that because it's great and she's one of the best parts of it where she's she has that I remember is that rant When you first watch it, it's like very random where they're like banging their heads against the wall,

but how they figure out like the time space continuum or whatever. And Anne Hathaway is like the only woman in America who could sell this. But she's like her eyes well with tears. She's wearing that like pixie cut. She's like, what if love is the answer? Hello? Could it be love? Wake it up?

And I'm like, I'm like, on the page, I'm like, huh? And then I'm like, what? And like, I'm full sobbing. I'm like, what if it's love? Yeah, what if? And then it kind of was. And it was love. Spoiler alert, it was love.

He's in that little library. Yeah, I'm spoiled. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a crazy fucking movie. That's a crazy movie. Not so. At the time, I couldn't hear it. Right.

Like, because the sound, I mean, we usually have some guys in here who, like, are down to clown with Chris Nolan movies. They're not like, here you are. No, I don't really like the one. All right. He doesn't really like Interstellar. He doesn't really like Nolan.

No, no, I'm sure he's a fine guy. I don't like him. Kiss ass. You know what I can't fuck with? I watch the Dinos documentary. the dinosaur documentary on Netflix recently. Do you guys see the interview about this? I saw it. I didn't press play.

Wow, don't watch it stoned. No. What the fuck is going on? What happened with the dinosaurs? There's a part of this documentary. It's narrated by Morgan Freeman. Obviously, incredible choice. Hope he got paid a lot.

I'm sure he did. It rained for a million years at one point, I guess. What? So what the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, yeah. That is so crazy. I shouldn't know anything about that. The passage of time,

like I literally almost had a panic attack. I was so scared. They start talking about the dinosaurs. basically the fact that humans exist is crazy and our lives are so small just so you know and the idea that it rained for a million years is going to go ahead and be something I should have never heard about. And this is separate from the Ice Age, which was by the way a whole age where it was ice. Hello.

And the dinosaurs, by the way, they were here, then they weren't. Now maybe they're birds. I'm not, can't be involved. They do say that they were likely birds. They were like, well, it's just that any color we like apply to them is just is conjecture. Yeah. Like in Jurassic Park, it's like, that's not what they looked like. They might have had feathers, babe.

Yeah, we don't know. They could have had feathers. It's really scary, but the idea that it... What's... I'm going to try to cry. Because the idea that it rained for a million years is so crazy. What do you mean by that? Rained.

Lava. First of all, a million years happened. Right. Let's start there. Yeah. The documentary, first thing it does, it puts up an Earth clock, takes it back to 260 million years ago. That didn't happen in my personal opinion.

Do I mean that? No. Am I, I just can't process the idea that there's been 260 million years. What do you mean by that? What can't you process that? Like, where do you fit into that? Basically like the 1400s is where everything had to start for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. On Caleb's timeline, everything started in like the 1400s. They were speaking English. Which, can you imagine being alive at that time when you're always filthy, everyone's sick and you're probably going to die from like a sword? Right, but I understood some things like the little hats they wore, understood maybe some things they were saying. I get the fashion. But I'm scared of everything that happened before that, and I'm scared of everything that will happen after this.

Yes. I think it's because there's no meteor portrayal of it. Of dinosaurs? Of the years that it was raining. You should have on, like, whatever extra screen you have lying around, just put on, like, misozoic-era screensaver. Yeah. And you should just see what the world might have looked like back then.

Yeah. Just there. Ask Google AI. What were the vibes? during the million years of rain. Give me vibes. Give me million years, rain, vibes. Because you've seen the 1400s on TV and in movies. Yeah. And you can

process that because you've pictured it. Yeah. I think you have not pictured raining for a million years. Which, of course you have it because because there's, because... Do you, okay, so I guess the way you're talking right now, Bowen, it feels like, are you guys comfortable knowing that it rained for a million years? I can believe, I can believe that it happened.

But the Dinos documentary, it's just one, one movie, not a bunch of parts. Yeah, it's like a part. It's like a part. episodic. It doesn't stress you guys out at all to like think about like okay. No, it stresses me out a lot. You guys have been friends for 17 years. Right. Imagine that whole time. It rained. It was raining. First of all. And would never stop. Would never stop during the whole time you've been friends. Right. And then let's say that goes on for basically another million years. Another million years. 17 is such a small. At least though, then you are born into a world where it rains and you never know life where it doesn't. So actually you'd probably get pretty used to it. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really. good point. Totally. I wasn't born in the rain,

so I have trouble understanding it. Scary. I can only lock into stuff if I'm stone now if I'm watching. Oh, don't watch the perfect neighbor.

What's going on? Oh, that's tough. What's going on? The perfect neighbor. Also, Netflix, shout out. Shout out. It was an Oscar nominated

documentary that I put on the other day, which is, it's entirely police body cam footage that they strung together to create a narrative and it's, I can't even get into it.

Oh, yeah, about this. I didn't know what it was about and I put it on and I had been too stoned to watch that and I wasn't, I had to lay down for like three hours afterwards. It was terrible. Horrifying. But what's better high on Netflix is age of attraction. Don't know it. I thought you were going to say age of Adeline.

I thought you were going to say age of Adeline. Age of Adeline. No, age of Edelonstone is the best film ever. What's age of attraction? Age of attraction is a Netflix television series that is new. Basically it's about all these singles get in the house and no one can reveal their age. It's love is blind, but for age. The one question you can't ask is how old are you?

Until you make a connection and then you go to the promise room and you put a promise ring on each other's finger. Once you're engaged to each other, then. It's like it's basically Love's Blind, you find out the... At that point, you're going to move in together. And only then after you've made the commitment to move in together, can you reveal your age? And it's like, you know, wouldn't you know it?

Like, people that you would have never guessed where 60 are, like, people that look 35 are really 22. And then it's about like, okay, we've just realized, this person that I've been getting to know for four or five days that I thought was maybe within a 10 year age range for me. We actually have like a 33 year age difference. And what does that knowledge do? And what is the dynamic? How does it change when we're living together with that knowledge when I introduce you to family members that come in?

And what's great about the show is it starts like Love Island where they're coming into the villa and it's like they're blown out and their makeup is perfect. And it's like they're perfectly like, you know, airbrushed and like the filter is on. And then once they start living together, it becomes like a real docu-series where it's just like, I just don't understand how can you be celibate. But last night, like, ride me and have an orgasm. I just don't understand like why we can't go there. And she's like, if you can't understand my celibacy, then what am I even doing here? He's like, you're not celibate. We fucked.

We basically fucked. I just didn't put it in you. She's like, I can't believe you'd even say that on camera. She wrote him, no penetration and came. Not that it's the details No, but I'm confused as well No, but there was a moment You have to watch it

Yeah, like and it's just It's crazy. It's like It's the way it devolves And from one type of reality show Into another I think it's kind of a flip on the form In a way that I was appreciating Like I was in because it was so silly

And stupid And then once that disappeared I was just like I couldn't believe how personal They were getting And what it was picking up And I'm just like, wow, we're in it In a way that like after the

honeymoon phase of meeting someone, you're then in it. Yeah, and I, but, but they like really, they, they went hard when it came to like, you know, mapping in terms of the way they were shooting it, the way that the people were feeling at the time. Like, it was good. Get high and watch it as well as good. I might have to. I'm really, yeah.

For nothing else, I'm wondering if maybe you would do me the favor of sending me the timestamps of the celibacy stuff. Yeah, but the thing is it's so much better when you've seen what comes before it. Like, I can't even describe. to you that like the way that they're filmed and like it it goes from full of love aisle you tried to watch i try but i've not gone to like the the look and feel chef you felt it had like a little bit i was just like i this is not like grabbed me yet because i think you need to wait for the actual reveals where you're like oh even eyes of a viewer thought this person was 40 years you know

older or younger or whatever yeah i mean like i yeah i guess i should give it the the biggest age difference is 33 years and there's another one that's 27 years and like you really really can't, like you're blown away when you find out that's what it is. Oh, I don't believe it. You mean it? You're really blown away? You mean it? Twice I was blown away.

Twice I was blown away. The rest I was like, okay, yeah, I knew that I saw this coming. See, because I have the gay guy scale of like, you know how they can age trees with rings? Yeah. I can do that with torsos now because of being on Grindr since I was 17 years old. Like if I just see a torso, I'm like 43. Oh my God, that's amazing. You know how you can tell.

We need to get the list of, we need to give a list of gay powers. Oh, there's a list of gay powers. Have you heard of this list of gay powers? this? No. So it's like any gay man has like six of these like 80 gay powers. Maybe I have the list of math, map reading, telling aging men based on their torsos

like, you know. Torso aging needs me in there. So I don't have the list of gay powers, but the gay thing I do have is my Ariana Grande tour set list that I made when I was high on the plane. And I said this to my one. I said Ariana set list, my version spelled with the B. So it says my version. Hello. With the heart. Hello. And I think it's perfect. I really believe

you. His encores were insane. Didn't make any sense. This is my Ariana Grande concert. Intro end of the world short version into yes and to be all right. Inter true story. Into supernatural. Then she takes a break because she deserves it. Then we go back into the past. Breathing one last time. Ari, think about it. Dangerous woman. Take a little bit of a break. Yes, it's time to honor positions. You're building a breaks for her. Because she deserves it. And POV, after POV, I'm sure we have like a beautiful like montage and like an eternal sunshine into the song, Eternal Sunshine, Twilight Zone, no tears off to cry, break. This is when we're being a slut.

Into you, break up with your girlfriend, the boy is mine, seven rings, we need a break. It's wicked time. Popular into every different show. There's a different musical theater cover. Into, think about it, Ariana, the way. Break. God is a woman. Break free.

Thank you next. Down. Encore is. imperfect for you and we can't be friends. We can't be friends as the encore works. Imperfect for you doesn't make sense. I think it does. It can be friends is awesome.

Of course. I love different musical theaters song every. I think we'll see something like that. It could be fun. We'll see something like that. Stone on the plane. So high on the plane. I could have done real work.

This is what I did. Your team pinging you left and right. Need to hear back. X, Y, Z. Can you check your docu sign? I'm like, I'm busy with my version. Please do dot loop. Please sign, sign, sign.

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Okay, it's time for, I don't think so, honey. This is that segment we do. Oh my gosh, okay, yes. It's time. And so this is, we put one minute on the clock, and we sort of shred. You know what I mean? This, this mic has been drooping the whole time. I think it's not worth it to fix it now.

That's okay. But I do just want to say, I think it's probably okay, right? I sound okay. All right, that's a little BTS for y'all at home. You have something? Yes, I do. I do have something. Okay.

This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many's time starts now. I don't think so, honey, you asking me if I talked about you in therapy. Oh. This is none of your business. I don't. And the thing is like, be prepared for the answer. You know what I mean?

Because you might ask, did I come up in therapy? And I might be like, yeah. And then you might be like, oh. And then either you're going to ask me what happened. I probably won't say, but you're going to intuit that it probably wasn't great. Or that you were a long discussion. or you're going to be like, oh, cool. And then you're going to spin out for hours about how you came up in therapy.

And I don't think so honey that I'm going to tell you. So you're going to be alone with that spinning. Also, like, true narcissism reveal to ask, did I come up in therapy? Even as a joke, my therapy is my therapy. Your therapy should be your therapy. I'll never ask if I came up in your therapy. But, like, and I just feel like at this point, it's like, what happens between me and Stacy is between me and Stacy. And you have to respect that relationship.

And it's one that I've built over time. We have our thing. You stay at home. If you're asking, you probably are in my therapy. And that's one minute. Wow, beautiful. I liked that. Thank you.

It's happened a couple times and I'm like, do you want the answer? I don't think they do. I don't think they do. I don't think they do. A guy? It has been, three people have brought this up to me. Have I come up in therapy? I haven't asked you that question.

No. I don't think you've asked me. You wouldn't ask me. Did I come up in therapy? You do come up once a session. Sure, sure, sure. But it's like, it's the equivalent of like lurking on like a message board or like searching your own name. Yeah, it's like you don't want to know.

I actually don't want to know. It's better for you to not ask and it's better for me to not tell. Just stay out of it. Yeah, I just stay out of it. It's my business. My version. My version. By the way, when I say you come up in therapy, it's just because you're so constant in my life.

So you're always, you're always there. Can you see that I did not inquire further? No. Hello. And those are boundaries. Yep. My version, my bestie, my boundaries. Boundaries, my version.

Boundaries, my version. Taylor's version. Taylor's version. Anyways, okay, are you ready? Yeah, okay. It's actually pertinent to this thing we were discussing earlier. This is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so honey as time starts now. I don't think so many Q-tips aren't supposed to go in your ears.

They keep telling us this, and yet no amount of PR, of messaging, of whatever. It's too late. Yeah, they're in there. You can't. The bell has been wrong. We cannot unring the bell. You're never going to win, Big Cotton. I'm so sorry.

It's okay. This is what happens when it's, it's done. I don't know who released Pandora from the box, but this is all we're going to do with Q2. We're not going to clean our keyboards with this. We're not going to be crafts with this. We are going to stick this in our ear, whether it's good for us or not. And, honey, it's the only thing that's digging

these little is hitting these veins to get that ore out of my canals. Q-tips, there's no point. There's no, it's fruitless, it's futile. Let us do it. Stop it with us because then you're going to get me angry because I don't like being told what I'm not supposed to do because guess what? I'm going to be doing it. And that's one minute.

Bowen hates being told what two and not to stick in any of those holes. Don't tell me what goes where. I'll put shit where I need to put shit. Exactly. And the thing is like, you're right. it is the only way to really get in there. Get in there and get it out of there. I'll do a pencil every now and then.

Oh, goodness. A pencil! Bowen. A pencil. Like the eraser side, of course. Pardon? I need a fine point. Bowen.

You are doing a scantron in your ears. Bowen, that's really bad. I want you to go back to Q. Now I'm definitely like, if you didn't like his, I don't think so, honey. Now have the context that without the Q-tip, it's a pencil. It's a pencil. Sharpside in. There's lead.

There's lead. Poin, that's so scary. It's also crazy as a noted fan. of the television series girls that you would shove anything in there that could perforate in your drum because God knows that was hell. Nothing smaller than an elbow. What? That's what she says. That's what her mom says in girls. Nothing smaller than an elbow.

Nothing smaller than an elbow in there. Becky Ann Baker? Hello. Becky Ann Baker. A great star. Love her. A great star. Okay, well that was me. Okay, my turn. Are you ready? Okay, I think so. Okay. Well, this is the moment people have been waiting for. This is Caleb Herons. I don't think so, honey.

His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Innovation. We're innovation is not needed. Oh. Enough. We have done too much. There are so many things that we already know about.

I'm going to start off by saying car door handles. We figured that out in the 1960s. Oh my God. In the 1960s, it is a little thing that you pull that opens the goddamn door. I've had it.

Why is it a button now? Why is the button hidden? I have to rub my hand around the entire frame of the door to find the button. I have to knock on the door three times and answer a troll's riddle to get out of the fucking vehicle.

No more new car handles. 30 seconds. What else? Diet Coke. It was working. When I asked the restaurant if they have a diet Coke and they say, we actually have a housemade, artisanal Italian. We all have something else and it's a fucking problem. Diet Coke at the restaurant. We are innovating things at the BlackBerry should have been where we stopped with phones. Why are we on iPhone 17? The BlackBerry was a perfect phone and we ruined it. Plains are getting smaller. Why? You guys already figured out how to make maximum money for us and make us more uncomfortable. The overhead bench should get bigger. The seat should get bigger. Stop innovating things that do not need to be innovated. Thank you. And that's one minute. And it is at this point that I will say first, this is a, we needed to talk about this.

And I want to talk about hotel lights. Hello. Oh, my God. It's not the first time it's come up. You need to put your key in there for it to work. Oh, forget it. Oh, I'm so sick of it. Hotel lights.

What was the other one I was thinking of? Toilets everywhere? Toilets? What's going on with toilets? They won't stop innovating. Because you want to know what? Everywhere does self-flush now. And they're like, oh, well, just hit the button.

the buttons are getting smaller and they're hiding them at different points on the toilet. Yes. They're guys, they're putting out new toothbrushes every day. We've certainly figured it out. We've figured it out. There are things that we just figured out. No new car.

Now if you want to put the car and drive, you don't pull, you just turn like an LED knob. No. Stop. They're even coming for our shit with the glasses. Hello. Don't innovate on the glasses.

What's happening with that? The fucking Rayband meta. Yes. It's like, no. Nobody ever. wear that in front of me. Yes. Ever.

Ever. Ever. Using AI to, like, respond to emails. Yeah, forget it. You make... $85,000 a year to respond to emails. The least you can do is fucking hit the keys, bitch. I have had it with the innovations. Knock it off. Knock it off.

No offense to anyone who's using. I just don't like it. No offense to anyone who's an innovator. Anyone who identifies as an innovator, no offense to you. But just direct it at the right thing. Ten year gap on innovations. That's what I'm asking for. I truly agree.

and there was another there was another one oh with email I hate seeing at the at the bottom of Gmail the suggested responses sure never makes any no I'm telling you sometimes it'll be like well that's a perfect response and I'll that's a that's a perfectly level of response or a good response to this email and then I actually think about clicking it I'm like no can I based on principle I'm not using your answer I auto populated one on accident recently because you know how Gmail now would just like if you accidentally hit tab it'll like type it out for you devil. It typed out scarily exactly what I would have said.

Like lowercase like, hey y'all dashed out. Like it is my exact email voice. It typed it out for me. Word for word, what I needed to respond. I deleted it and re-ty typed it. Yeah. I mean,

I'm not doing it. No. I'm not doing it. It's scary to me. And I hate that it knows me. It's marching into the Oklahoma City Hall. Yes. It knows me.

I will say, Caleb, you have gorgeous Asian eyes. You know what, Bowen. Thank you for saying that. That is so beautiful and special. You have a gorgeous. lash length on a beautiful brown

almond adjacent eye. People often think that I am not white. And I'm not going to lie to about that. Sometimes people think I'm Pacific Islander. Sometimes they think I'm Hispanic. Why would you lie about that? I would never lie about that. And that's what I'm telling you. Sometimes you guys, people think I'm not white and every time I receive it as a beautiful compliment and really don't know what to say after I say, unfortunately,

I'm just white. Of course I think being white is an embarrassment. It's one of the worst things that's ever happened to me. And also, we can't deny their privileges. No. That's all you have to say. Do you guys want to unpack white privilege? I was thinking today was the day. Yeah. It's time we did that.

Anyway, that's for next time Caleb comes on. Yeah, you will return. And also, we should do dinner. What's do dinner? Let's do dinner. I actually don't know why I thought you were an L.A. person.

Well, I used to be. Yeah, you were. That's why I thought this. But now I am a New York person. Okay, well. We can eat dinner whenever we'd like. We're going to the fly. Look out restaurants.

A real jerk is coming through. Three. Three real jerks are coming in. But just, oh my God, we leave and we get a reputation. We were only lovely. Oh, that'd be fun, though. It'd be kind of fun because at least we would know the truth.

Yeah. Yeah. That's how I always feel. Yeah. I know the truth. When I hear rumors about us and I always am, I go, I know the truth about the three of us. The truth of this episode was that it was a blast and you got to listen to so true. You got to watch the special.

You got to watch Devil Worst Prattah 2. You do. DWP. To be promoting Devil Wears Prouta 2, just congrats. Also funny for me to be promoting. It's like, I think they've got it covered. I don't know. I look at that cast list

and I'm like, yeah, sure, Lady Gaga, yeah, sure, Rachel Blum, Caleb Heron. Hey, we do who we wanted on the show. Thank you guys for having me. We love you. We end every episode with a song.

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