Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Baroque B*tch* (w/ Cecily Strong)

Episode Date: July 21, 2021

Meet Cecily. She is a 525 lb. father of three and the star and producer of the incredible new musical comedy series Schmigadoon! on Apple TV+. She's also CECILY STRONG, baby!!! Matt and Bowen are join...ed by one of the best to ever do it who is a recent Emmy nominee for SNL and truly a dream guest for Las Cultch. Cecily shares what it was like to stage and perform the numbers in her new show, work with the fully insane cast (Chenoweth, Dove, hot Aaron Tveit) and sing live, "Les Miz style". Also, RHONY (Cecily does a Ramona and you....must hear it) and RHOBH (Cecily does a Dorit and you......MUST hear it), the impact of Strangers with Candy and true clown Amy Sedaris, Bottle Rocket and Owen Wilson culture, thoughts on All Stars 6 and memories from favorite SNL sketches (AKA the Terrazano's sketch with Ryan Gosling. Seriously, look it up). Do you like shitting in a public restroom? Don't you think Cici's Pizza should stay open as marijuana legalizes nationwide? Big questions. Cecily (obviously a full star on this ep) has a book coming out: This Will All Be Over Soon. Pre-order that!!! And stream Schmigadoon!....you baroque bitch ;-) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 Goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. My sister in the chat. My sister has entered the chat. You look, you still have the same glow, the same sun kiss on you from the island. I might have done a shirtless hike before. Today?
Starting point is 00:02:42 Oh, my God. I missed Griffin. Oh, Griffith, mama. Griffith. I'm sorry. How dare you? It's actually really close to number eight. It's Griffith. It's Griffith. How dare you? How dare you? I meant to say Griffith. I actually knew it was Griffith as soon as the word
Starting point is 00:02:56 Griffin left my mouth, I thought. You knew it wasn't right. I screwed up. I messed up. I actually want to reveal this to the readers. So, Bowen Yang famously came to visit me in Los Angeles after my breakup last year. And he came to my aid, and you got right on a plane like my sister
Starting point is 00:03:14 and the other half of my heart. Was so happy to. It was not an inconvenience for me. I had to be there. And you got here during one of your breaks from SNL, famous sketch comedy program. More on that in a second and you get here and we're having several days of fun yeah except one day you say and i brought you to griffith and i sort of showed you griffith we hiked griffith yes and one day you say to me i think i'm just gonna chill today and just like hang out I was like okay so I go for a hike
Starting point is 00:03:46 no no no we both needed a day I think we both it was a mutually agreed upon day like a separate day which is so healthy of us yeah and then
Starting point is 00:03:55 we truly had the same idea because I'm sort of hiking Griffith I look a hundred yards in front of me and it could have been no one else's calves but the iconic calves of one bowen yang stomping the yard getting the steps climbing the heights of griffith and i ran to him and i said our break is over i'm hiking with you again and i said oh God, is this real? Is this you? And I think that's just the way the world is telling us that we cannot be apart for too long.
Starting point is 00:04:30 No, no. Even though we create the distance for a good reason, like magnetic poles. We know codependency, okay? Oh, we've seen it. We've seen it up close and personal. We've seen it up close and personal. I know Michelle Obama.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Hey, clown. Jester, you have done it again. Constantly raising the bar for the circus and doing it foolishly. So get this. Get this. This is probably going to be my favorite episode we've ever done.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Oh my God, I agree. I agree with you that it's going to be your favorite episode that we've ever done and my favorite episode we've ever done. This has been a long time coming. This is written in the stars. It was written in the stars, as Aida the show once said. And I will say this.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Two episodes into Schmigadoon, a show that my sister wrote for. Oh, bro. Oh, come oh come on well you wrote for the show consulting producer you know like that kind of the entry point you know writer's room what is lifting i'm just i'm just i'm just demystifying this for for the reader i'm just letting you know that like how perfect is it that that it was my first post-snl writer's room for it to be a show that was that is about you know oscars and hammerstein musical or that era of movie musical oscars and hammerstein you know that one no stop i just i literally just woke up from a nap don't do this it's true i facetimed you right before and you had the blinders on you sleep with those things i can i tell you my circadians are fucked ever since I've worked at Saturday Night Live,
Starting point is 00:06:09 a sketch program. More on that later. Circadian rhythm. Such a sort of, I love the way that sounds. Circadian rhythm. Something about those words. The blank fills itself. Circadians.
Starting point is 00:06:19 It's one of those. Anyway, I need that to sleep now because yeah i need i these have like padding on them that really press down on your on your sort of orbital bones and your right and your brow bones in a way that really relaxes you immediately i highly recommend um yeah anyway we're surprised to see you wearing them what i was gonna say was that this year we're both getting our first episode credits oh we are getting our first episode credits because my episode of q force comes out on september 2nd and mama you i guess i guess this europe what episode did you write of schmigadoon one of the
Starting point is 00:06:55 best shows i've seen recently one of the best shows i've seen the whole world episode three with julie klausner wonderful one icon and friend ofcon and friend of the show. Friend of the show. Shmigodunits on Apple TV+. Stars are guests, Keegan-Michael Key, Christian Chenoweth, Alan Cumming, Fred Armisen, Anne Harada. So many parents of camera. When I saw Anne Harada,
Starting point is 00:07:18 I fell on my hole. I fell off my chair onto my hole. I was like, this is how you know the casting director got it genius genius casting I mean Telsey we gotta give it up to Telsey come on Bernie Telsey
Starting point is 00:07:35 it's actually real culture number 51 come on Bernie Telsey but first and foremost it is a perfect showcase and vehicle for our guest. You know her from Saturday Night Live. She's one of the best to ever do it. What?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Literally, I was talking to Sudi the other day. I was like, one of the best to ever do it. One of the best to ever do it. I rarely get starstruck. How often do you and I quote... Terrazanos? How often do you and I quote Terrazanos? All the time.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Almost weekly. Almost weekly. We watched it. We did a watch party for Terrazanos the other day. how often do you and I quote Tarazanos? how often do you and I quote Tarazanos? all the time almost weekly almost weekly we watched it we did a watch party for Tarazanos the other day we were just like this is this is one of the all time greats anyway
Starting point is 00:08:13 enough of this let's bring in our guest Emmy nominee please welcome into your ears oh come on Cecily Strong! oh my god finally
Starting point is 00:08:23 guys that was so hard to be quiet through all of that. Did you notice I was doing sign language applause? Yeah. You had that going on. That is applause. That's sign. No more silence. No more silence.
Starting point is 00:08:37 You're in the Zoom. Here we are. I am in. I have missed Griffin. I'm here. I'm so happy oh my god we're so happy to have you I literally you're my favorite
Starting point is 00:08:50 I fucking love you I'm upset honestly like it was like when Bowen first got the job at SNL and Sudi first got the job at SNL I was like Cecily what's your life I have to know everything and I said the same thing to my dog about Bowen and Sudi that's who I talk to.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Lucy. That's my Sid. Yeah. I mean, I can't believe it's taken this long to do this show. The fate's aligned in this way. No, I can't believe it. But this is a worthwhile occasion. I needed to wait until you were a consulting producer.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. Until Bowen got to that level. Until I was a consulting producer and I got an got to that level until i was a consulting producer and i'd gotten an eye mask with padding on it and yes for you to have a book coming out oh we forgot to mention the damn book um oh my god we can't hear jesus this will all be okay in the end it's it's it's really i mean it's i love that you just called it This Will All Be Okay in the End. Wait, what is it? No. The title is This Will All Be Over Soon.
Starting point is 00:09:48 No. Oh, my God. But you know what? Griffin Park and This Will All Be Okay. I love that. No, this will all be over soon. Are you kidding? I love it. I've been tearing through it.
Starting point is 00:09:57 I've been reading it so diligently. And you got a more This Will All Be Okay in the end. Kind of fine. This will all be over will all be over soon no you can't oh my god you can't you can't yeah that's the sequel that's you can't oh my god this will all be you know a thing at some point oh no griffin park's own bowen what did i do what did i do last last week i did this i i fucked up a name i really gotta like get my head checked or something my favorite thing is when people mess up names but they're strong and wrong about it like sudi green is the best with this she said to me what did what did she say? You know Chris Colfer from Glee? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:46 One time she just said so many times, Chris Koffner. She was like, Chris Koffner, you know, Chris Koffner. And then she said, Christy Brinkley, when she meant to talk about Christine Baranski. And so she's just like a fount of that. So maybe you're just catching the bug, Beau. My roommate and gay husband kevin is very much that way i like to think of it as like a midwest mom thing he also was like tell
Starting point is 00:11:10 them i say hi oh sure tell them you say hi on the podcast i'll start with that now here i am doing it but like one time i was making lentil soup and he was like and you're making yentl soup tonight papa can you make me hello yes papa can you legume me oh shit bro yeah well you know what i just think i must be forgiven i demand forgiveness because this nap which i timed to end minutes before this started. But when I've had some red wine, 8 p.m. to me is like midnight. Wine o'clock. We actually,
Starting point is 00:11:54 I have a Moscow mule. And can I tell you? Right. I was going to ask. Yeah. But I didn't want to, you know, bring up anything personal.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Right. Well, this could be anything. I mean, I have, I have a delivery. This this is this is pho broth okay well that's a plastic alcoholic pho maybe something i don't know not for me for the girls out there alcoholic pho yeah i'm not that's not for me either no what what what red wine are you drinking i'm, so I have, I get cases of red Burgundy scent. Oh, gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I'm a member of the Burgundy, this is Elgin Selections, yeah. I used to belong to a wine club, and I felt that it was, and it really encouraged me to drink a lot of it. And then all of a sudden, you have so much. I know, but I've gone beyond the wine club and I just ordered the cases. But I do love red burgundy. How's it hitting you tonight? What's it doing for you?
Starting point is 00:12:54 You know, it's nice. I'm feeling a little silly. I think I have TMJ. Oh, no. What? Is that like pre-lock jaw? What is that? I think.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Who could know? I just know that it was, I was, my jaw is hurting me. Well, you know, how much can you open said jaw? Why don't you show us? Why don't you show us? But it's in here. Is it cracking? Oh yeah, no. It's cracking.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It's doing like the like, you know, kind of pops. Oh no. Oh, no. Oh, shoot. You know what? That's been happening to me lately, too. And I just. Has it?
Starting point is 00:13:29 I need to come out of the shadows and say that it's been happening to me because it happens and I get so frightened. And I'm like, oh, my jaw is literally coming off the hinges that I'm too afraid to tell anybody. And that's the first thing you need to do in order to make the situation better. I know. I tell everybody because I assume it's cancer right anytime yes it's got to be the worst thing you know what's interesting about opening mouths i had a singing teacher in uh or uh in like college i took like voice lessons for two semesters and he said to me one time you know men when they sing,
Starting point is 00:14:05 don't have to open up their mouths as big as women. And I was like, is that true? And he was like, yes, because male resonators are different. And I was like, I don't,
Starting point is 00:14:14 I think you're just using a bunch of words, but like, he was like, when you sing, you shouldn't have to open your mouth very wide. You actually, you don't have to, but women it's different.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And I was like, cause we have to but women it's different and i was like because we have to flirt at the same time and you flirt by showing your damn tonsils uh-huh that dangly thing that's swinging the back of my throat yeah but i also think that's not true called it the cathedral oh it's my cathedral darling yeah fran bennett you've been using your cathedral quite a bit on the apple plus tv show schmigadoo oh that was very good we finally got to it um wait i have i have to say now two episodes are out so far and i'm obsessed with it i i everything about it i love like i love thembles, the way that they shoot the scenes. I love the long shots that don't cut away.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I love that we're just seeing performers. I love the singing live. Because if it's not live, it's faked really well. Is it singing live? Yes. It's singing live. Yeah. But is it Les Mis style where you all have an earwig in?
Starting point is 00:15:22 We all have earwigs. I think there was only one part that I've done so far that I know wasn't live. And that was the very end of Enjoy the Ride because we were in the tunnel and there were like these three big men pulling us. Oh. And so it was like, oh, you know, and sloshing water. So we couldn't record that sound live. Yeah. So is that the end of episode two?
Starting point is 00:15:49 That's the end of episode two. Where you sort of go into the tunnel of love with Aaron Tveit. And that's how we get through the tunnel of love. Mm-hmm. These men are pulling us. It's three men lugging you. Wow. Movie magic.
Starting point is 00:16:00 In Waiters, yeah. Movie magic, Beau. Movie magic. Well, it really is. I mean, that's the whole point, right? And like the direction, like Barry Sonnenfeld is a genius. And that long shot specifically that really hit me was,
Starting point is 00:16:14 I think it was in the pilot when Aaron, when Danny Bailey sings to Cecily, Can't Be Tamed or that song. He's so good and hot. In the beginning, it's just a long, long take. And I or that song. He's so good and hot. It's just a long, long take. People are loving it. I'm loving that. What?
Starting point is 00:16:31 That he's hot? The Aaron Tveit heat on the internet. Oh, yeah. It's been there. I mean, ever since Grease Slot. That's when I found out about him. Mama, ever since Next to Normal. Yes, Next to Normal. I had not seen Next to Normal to normal and actually when i did end up seeing next to normal um he wasn't in it he had moved on as you know people and people move on they move on they do um but he had gone and i was so bummed because
Starting point is 00:16:57 i remember seeing him on the tony awards and i was like who is that he's good and hot he's good he's great he's great he's great. He's great. He's great. He's great. Dove Cameron. What a legend. Name another legend. A freaking legend. What's her deal?
Starting point is 00:17:11 Yeah. I mean, she's, she's sort of like unreal. I mean, I don't know. She's kind of like, you know how you meet some people and you're like,
Starting point is 00:17:19 I'll never be cool enough to understand your world. Is that dove? That's dove to me. i think she's just so i mean it's like devil asked me like when we were at the doing the premiere parties and it was like what are you gonna wear are you gonna change when we go to allen's and i was like am i gonna change are you have a second look i barely got this look together i'm hoping this stays on me and then she's like wearing a leather pants and jacket ensemble and then she was like what are you gonna wear to your party and i was like i don't even know i can't tell you dove i can't tell you my favorite dove cameron moment is when she was doing this is a deep dive but she was doing Hairspray Live
Starting point is 00:18:07 and I I mean Amber Von Tussle is a part for Legends Only and I did see the original Broadway cast with Laura Bell Bundy and the High Harmony was launching I mean I had chills I was the gayest little kid there
Starting point is 00:18:24 and I was crying when i heard the high harmony and you can't stop the beat my mother my mother turns me and she's like why are you crying it's a happy song and i was like i can't tell you now how gay i am like but that's why um but anyway she played amber von tussle in the the hairspray live and there was a part where i don't know i think it was on Jennifer Hudson's Instagram. Jennifer Hudson was recording Dove singing and you just hear Jennifer screaming in the back, Sing, Dove! Sing, Dove!
Starting point is 00:18:54 Sing! Screaming at her the word sing. And I was just like, And she did. Can you imagine Jennifer Hudson screaming the word sing at you? And your name being Dove. I? And your name being Dove. I wish. Your name being Dove.
Starting point is 00:19:10 How are these parties, tell us. Oh, they were so great. We missed you. We miss our consulting producer, but you do what you have to do. I know. I'm out of town. She's booked and busy. I feel like I'm in purgatory right now
Starting point is 00:19:26 I'm neither here nor there on my coast which sounds so elitist of me but I feel like nothing's happening in my world well I think that's not true I think that's abject falsity I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:19:41 there's things happening obviously but I'm like I feel like I'm like away from the action and I've kind of just been like he wants to be at the party there's not that much action we had two parties you threw one? I threw one
Starting point is 00:19:56 that's right I couldn't come because you invited me I think I saw the email and I was like well I can't go but I am going to see you soon for what is it called? This is all going to end. This is all going to be okay. This is all going to be okay in the end.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Before we know it. Before we know it. This is us. This is the perfect, we've slipped into some perfect, can we call it guerrilla marketing or whatever? It's like, this is, please. As a guerrilla, I say, yes. Here's how you gorilla i say yes here's how you mark it baby here's how you mark it i feel like now no one listening will forget the title this will all be over soon coming in august come to great barrington in the berkshires if you want to see me cecily heidi
Starting point is 00:20:41 gardner have a conversation about this beautiful, beautiful book. I know. And I'm going to try to talk about the book and not you two and how wonderful it is that you're both doing this. It's such a testament to who both of you are. Oh my gosh. You're so wonderful. You know, I don't know if the people out there know this, but you don't get paid money for those things.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And that's not what it's about. This is just a real labor of love, a friend being a friend. And it's so kind. What date is it? What day is it? August 7th. We're coming. I want to go.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Come. You gotta go. I'm going to be in camp. I would love nothing more than a comp. Matt, I'm going to drive up. You want to share a car and we can play some music? Let's do it. I love this.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I love that. And I'm going to have a cocktail or three because i fucking love heidi too or a red or a red burgundy i just saw heidi in la oh my god ain't she the best what was she doing what was she wearing she was wearing cool some some of the coolest duds you've ever seen everyone was well dressed i i did a little thing with keenan chris heidi and chloe and it was style all around come on and all the Everyone was well-dressed. I did a little thing with Keenan, Chris, Heidi, and Chloe, and it was style all around. Come on.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And all the cunt names. Wow. Hadn't thought about it like that. The cunt names. Well, I'm kind of, I'm always going there. Yeah. I'm always thinking about sound and rhythms. What are the sounds?
Starting point is 00:22:01 What are the sounds of the situation? That's great. You want me somewhere, but what are the sounds? What are the sounds of the situation? What are the sounds you know what are the what are the sounds of the situation that's great you want me somewhere but what are the sounds what are the sounds involved sort of where are the sounds where are they coming from how loud are they like what are the consonants i love a good consonant well here's the thing i can't be serious for a second boan i've been waiting for you to be serious this whole time i've been waiting i know but there's something about okay there's there's something about Schmigadoon, you know, being the stacked cast
Starting point is 00:22:27 full of, you know, musical theater people. And then there's something about, there's something to us as fans of sketch comedy and us as people who can, like, track queer sensibility or find it in people and Cecily being someone
Starting point is 00:22:41 who can deliver on that always. Always. There's something about Terrazano specifically where there's something about terizano specifically where there's a moment in the end i'm sorry i'm sorry cecily we're bringing up terizano's sorry this is co-wrote it with franta sudi okay you never do this to me yes that's it you know bowen i knew what you were gonna do it's it's the way she says this to me we never do this to me stop yelling at me my dad was a really messed up guy
Starting point is 00:23:05 messed up guy this to me not a Tarantanos and then Gosling is losing it yeah Gosling's losing it bringing up the dad
Starting point is 00:23:13 the tough relationship with the dad he's a really messed up guy he's a really messed up guy can you never do this to me it's this bridge
Starting point is 00:23:21 and tunnel girl that's just like don't tickle me like that like stop but like it's her her action It's this bridge and tunnel girl that's just like, don't tickle me. Like that. Stop. Her action is stop. You know and you know it.
Starting point is 00:23:37 And everyone understands everything that she's saying in her head. They all feel sorry for her. Her story is the toughest. Her dad was a really mess of kind. Readers, you have to watch the Terrazano sketch. Literally, just type in SNL Terrazano Cecily. You'll find it. And that hair is just so bad.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Oh, iconic. It can't be. The Kyle Richards sort of moment. I can't. By the way, we have to talk about Housewives later because I know you love you know it this has to be a two part episode probably if we get into Housewives
Starting point is 00:24:11 yeah trust me it will be but we have to talk about the sequel sketch which is Domenico's with Adam Driver and that is the coffee that's the BK Joe's thing or whatever but there's a moment there where Krav Maga and then
Starting point is 00:24:28 you tell Heidi's like well I think it's great and then you go I forget what the exact wording is but you go when this movie comes out you're gonna want to kill yourself kill yourself because you sound poor because you sound poor
Starting point is 00:24:43 I'm just saying that as the only person here that's gonna tell you the truth you sound poor because i'm just saying that is the only person here that's going to tell you the truth you sound poor when this movie comes out you sound poor come on these are like money lines i can't i'm telling you, I literally, I can't. I just had a moment where I flashed back to, oh God, Moe Shandon. Like way back, way back. And then I was like, I can't even believe that like, I literally, it's just so gay and lame. I was like, I can't believe we're talking to you
Starting point is 00:25:19 and I can't believe I know Vanessa, I'm going to be on that fucking show. I was like, this is crazy. I was like, these are the funniest women in the world i love you anyway that's like it's like uncool to say but like anyway i keep cheersing i'm doing very mom things on zoom i did asl applause i love this long sleeve what what is that is that like a tie-dye moment? It is, but my friend had a baby, and she loves tie-dye. And I'm wearing it because I was cold. I'm not a normal tie-dye kind of gal. But my friend Bianca really loves, what is it, indigo?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Is that this dye? Yeah, the indigo dye. Uh-huh, the indigo dye. Yeah, and tie-dyeing. Oh, so she made that. I was there. I ordained. Officiate?
Starting point is 00:26:08 The officiant? Yeah. Officiant. And her wedding was a lot of indigo tie dye, too. Was this the one in the desert? Yes, it was the one in the desert. You showed me pictures. That looked very chic.
Starting point is 00:26:20 It was great. Yeah. Where in the desert? Did you go far? Did you go to like just had a joshua tree moment where's the um iron man mountain or where they shot iron man it was there oh how cool get to go where they shot iron man well and i certainly incorporated that in my speech it's great to gather here at a spot where robert downey jr was not far away their favorite
Starting point is 00:26:47 actor robert downey jr and their favorite character iron man i just like had to think for us hard two seconds about what his real name is and then i found it tony stark tony he found it oh i was like robert downey jr what do you mean who has to think about that? I know. I mean, look, Robert, you forget how long in the game RDJ has been doing it. But, you know, I recently worked with Cybill Shepherd, and I told her, I was like- What? Well, I did. I love Cybill Shepherd. Love.
Starting point is 00:27:21 And so I told her in between takes, I said you know i have to tell you one of my favorite movies is chances are i was like you and robert downey jr louis wasn't that his name yes yes um and so she was like she turns to me and she goes oh you know he couldn't be allowed he couldn't be left alone at that time you know he had to have something with him at all times couldn't go to the bathroom alone he really you know that was a hard time but you know we had the chemistry we had the chemistry
Starting point is 00:27:49 so that's why so I was just like and I was just my jaw was on the ground I was like I love the movie I think the most whenever people are like
Starting point is 00:27:57 what movie made you cry the most my answer for such a long time was Heart and Souls Cecily I always talk about Heart and Souls. You do? Heart and Souls.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I've never seen it. Kira Sedgwick. Alfre Woodard. Forget it. Mr. Hug-a-bug, hug-a-bug, hug-a-bug. I'll cry now. Be careful. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:20 He won't be there. It was so good. Bowen, you must. It's like so like it's so romantic is the wrong word but it's so like um it's like 90 early 90s cheese but in the best way like oh my god charles groden tom sizemore rdj killing it miss elizabeth shoe oh we love elizabeth shoe yes this sounds very baroqueantic is not the word. Baroque is, we need to start describing things
Starting point is 00:28:47 as Baroque more when it applies. And I think, I've never seen Heart and Souls, but I feel like it applies. But you think it's Baroque. Baroque. That's what you got no money. Baroque bitch.
Starting point is 00:29:00 That is Baroque. Baroque bitch. Wait, wait, but that movie at the end where Keira Sedgwick goes, go and live the life that I don't get to live. And our DJ is just like,
Starting point is 00:29:14 yeah. And she goes, I wish I could just give you a big hug. And then they can. This is a spoiler. Anyway, it's so good. That line reading was honestly gave me goosebumps. Matt's very good at the recital. I'm an amazing actress.
Starting point is 00:29:29 People don't know yet, but they will. I've started to book more roles in film and television. Now, have you done a lot of Keira Sedgwick? I feel like you should do more. Well, you know, Keira Sedgwick is not far away from my best character, which is Sutton Strack. Yes, yes. Oh, really? Of course I know Sutton.
Starting point is 00:29:44 This word violate is really too much for me. I violated you? Wait, I need to bring out a thing to just, I'm using this to relax my face. It's so I don't cry. It's so I don't cry. Do you feel like crying? Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:29:58 As a white woman who got called racist. I don't want to talk about race. Hey, we're not gonna do the implosion of white women this season on oh yeah new york and beverly hills it's amazing what do you think both of you i want to know what you think about the the real housewives of new york ratings being so bad and now there's like all they're blaming they're blaming ebony ebony are you kidding me it's unbelievable crazy ebony is like i i think ebony is so amazing and wonder and i'm like i don't know how she does it i don't know how you can want to be around that all the time and she has so much patience
Starting point is 00:30:38 and then to be blamed and there's a ramona singer in the world and we're blaming Ebony. Bowen is the number one anti-Ramona Singer girl. Oh, I don't know if he, I think I, we could be competitive in this. I have really, really not liked Ramona Singer for a long time. Oh yes, I'm sure that's true. But I think I've thrown away my chances of being asked back on Watch What Happens Live because I did it over Zoom last fall.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And they did a segment where they were like, okay, Bowen, you're just going to like rattle off your thoughts about housewife stuff between Potomac and New York and all this stuff. And I was like, sure. And then they got to Ramona. I was like, she's a white supremacist and blah, blah, blah. They didn't show it. Well, then Ebony tried to ask it. So, clearly you did make a mark. and blah blah they didn't show it well then Anthony tried to ask it so yeah you did make
Starting point is 00:31:26 a mark I hit a nerve but Andy seems like actually peed I don't know why would you be why would you be going to say that
Starting point is 00:31:32 white supremacist I wouldn't I wouldn't use those words I don't know why we have to can we just talk about something fun I don't want to talk
Starting point is 00:31:39 about a girlfriend stuff I don't want to talk about race religion or creed what I don't want to talk about this all the time that's not what I want to come out I want to talk about race, religion, or creed. What? I don't want to talk about this all the time. That's not what I want to come
Starting point is 00:31:46 out. I want to be sexy and have fun. I want to push her down the stairs. I've said this. I don't want to talk about COVID. I'm talking about COVID. COVID this, COVID that. She's a super spreader. And that needs to be said.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I love all the times that show the camera and she's just on the side of a pool. Adjusting her face. Posing. All you need to know to know just how unhinged that woman is, is you have to remember how she walked down that runway that one time.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Oh my god. And her father drank a lot actually. So this is actually very triggering. Very triggering. This is a really inhabited, a very lived in, literally, Ramona. This is very good. Have you worked on this?
Starting point is 00:32:35 I just watch so much TV. And the Housewives really a lot. And this season especially. 80 always would be like, I'll do, I have, I can do impressions like as the show's happening.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yes. Oh, and then when they're off. Yeah. Interesting. I will forget who Sutton Strack is after this season.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But right now, she's my number one impression. Sutton. I just love how they all, how they said her name. That's Sutton. Well, that's just Sutton being Sutton. Classic Sutton. I just love how they said her name. That's Sutton. Well, that's just Sutton being Sutton.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Classic Sutton. Classic Sutton. Can we also talk about, what do we think about whoever is dressing Sutton? Okay. You know, some of them are heads. There's some misses, but yeah, who's dressing Sutton? I mean, for the confessional look.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Sutton is not like an unattractive person no she doesn't have a bad figure but sutton's being dressed poorly she has very expensive clothes right she clearly has taste if she's like running her own boutique but it's like i think she's just hiring a bad stylist quote unquote for these for the show she looks like a fake christmas tree she looks like a fake christmas tree she looks like a fake christmas tree like like a fun christmas tree that someone gets like and they're like it's a different color than usual because we want it to be different this year it's like why she looks like that shirts her it's tacky yeah and also and i want to ask her like how when's the last time
Starting point is 00:34:00 you've gotten a compliment that wasn't like this this is fun and different. Like when people only say fun about what you're wearing. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, she can look great. She's in great shape. I just would love to challenge Sutton. If you're listening to,
Starting point is 00:34:18 you know, get a different stylist and see what you can do. Cause I bet you look great. Who is the best dress to you guys? On Beverly Hills? Out of everyone. I'm very loyal with my fandom and it's always Erica. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Erica is inspired art for you. I mean, yes. And I'm supporting her through all of this. And I think Dorit is like, she's gotten whatever, but it's like Dorit is just wanting to be Erica Dorit is the one that said your panties are showing or you're not wearing panties here's panties which is like
Starting point is 00:34:53 the most conservative nasty thing to do and then it's like now she's in bucket hats and dressed like LL Cool J yeah playing lawn darts or whatever it was this season. Remember, what did they not know? They were like, what's this called? Horseshoe? What is that? Yeah, they didn't know Bocce, I think. And she was truly dressed like LL Cool J. Yeah. She is. She always goes for it. And like, the thing is, like, I wonder.
Starting point is 00:35:18 I actually, yeah. And that's yeah. I'm actually doing like an LL Cool J thing right now. I don't know Erica. What did you think about Erica? When you hear what's going on. I'm just worried she cheated all those people. And now I'm doing a wedding line that I'm really excited about.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Orphans and widows? I mean, when you read it, it's really sad. It's really sad. It's really sad. And I'm loving my room in Bucca di Beppo. Wait, it was the only thing that was going to me out to buco di beppo i was like i need to go in what's it called the sunrise room or whatever the fuck the the it's like an italian name i forget but it's i must go i must go and like she kept saying all these like oh please i
Starting point is 00:36:00 would have an easier time getting george to make with a woman. And it was like the same, like, these are like my gay jokes that I tell. Boy, George would never fuck a woman. He's gay. He's gay. Because he's gay. So he would never, ever make out with a woman. But I would have better luck getting him to do that.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Jagger. It's like half Bjork. It really like starts to like dip into Bjork or Icelandic or something. Her accent is so peculiar. It's untraceable and she would say it's because she's a citizen of the world. And when you're a citizen of the world,
Starting point is 00:36:35 you pick up all different cultures. That's true. I've been watching it with my mom and she laughed at Dorit being like, when you insult someone's outfit, that is below the belt. Have you ever
Starting point is 00:36:52 heard Heidi talk about their, like, the way they greet each other? No, who's they? It's my favorite. Like the housewives because they spend so long and they're like, oh, I love this. What is this? Is this pink? Look at this. It's pink. I love it. Guess what it is. I'm wearing. Yes, I'm wearing what you wore. I'm wearing the purple. That's really fun. Look at you. This is fun. Oh, look at this.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Look at the wall. Oh, my God. Table. Table. I love it. And you're in pink and this is table okay ah what fun a lot of a lot of airtime is dedicated to like what people look like literally because it's like kathy thinking that garcelle was kyle like that that took up like multiple what do we think is happening there oh we love her perfection utter perfection every now and then I get a really good Kathy Hilton. Because you know she doesn't move her forehead. She'll be like. Who is Hunky Dory? No.
Starting point is 00:37:52 You know what? I keep losing. Red Bull has caffeine. Red Bull has caffeine. It's who is Hunky Dory? She's genuinely asking. Who is Hunky Dory? Tomasina.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Peeping Tomasina. And what I loved is when she was like, she goes to Rinna. You have to handle this. This is your house. Thomasina peeping Thomasina and I love what I loved is when she was like she goes to Rinna you have to handle this this is your house this is your house
Starting point is 00:38:11 you have to make this right and what we don't want to do is push anyone to the edge oh my god and you know she was such a bully oh yeah
Starting point is 00:38:20 with her drinking game yeah but I was just showing out of context the bunny the context the bunny. The bunny? The bunny for the baby shower. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And it was like, that scene, just out of context, is so amazing. Their faces in it. I highly recommend a second view. Oh, and actually, I brought the bunny. And there's so many close-ups. Everybody's like crying. And the bunny's in that wrapping paper. So for the ASMR fans too.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Yeah. It's huge. It's good for everyone. It's good for everyone. There's something for everyone in The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, but never more so than that scene with the bunny. Anyone has a way in. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:01 The news development this week on the Erica front is troubling maybe. She got hit with the $25 million. The claim is that she took $25 million from Tom's firm that might have been embezzled from these clients. And this is starting to actually implicate her
Starting point is 00:39:20 in all this stuff, I think. I think the money, for sure, there's like monies intertwined. I don't think Erica knew what Tom's doing. And look at the way he talks to her. Do you think that man told her a thing about what he does? And also, I don't think she would,
Starting point is 00:39:35 not to say like she couldn't understand it, but I don't think she would understand it because it's not her business. And also like, and when I say that, I mean like it's literally not a business that she works in understands i don't tell you know if just because i'm dating someone i don't tell them what i'm doing no exactly he and he's just not telling her anything no and not that she's mother theresa or
Starting point is 00:39:58 a great person but i just don't think erica was like i think's so, we always like drag a spouse in and especially like the woman's fault somehow. You know, like Jenny Jones, it was her fault, right? And not a homophobic man who shot another man. Guys, I'm bringing it back to Jenny. I've been upset about this for a long time. Matt, were you obsessed with Jenny Jones growing up? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:24 She wasn't my girl of choice I was more Ricky was more my culture I fucking love Ricky Ricky had a poem There was always a rhyme introducing I forget I was just watching my friend Shane
Starting point is 00:40:40 sent me one recently It was like you're too fat to be a drag queen or something But it you're too fat to to be a drag queen or something but it said you're too bad to be a drag queen jack sprat could eat no fat and his wife could eat no lean girl you are too fat to be a drag queen and it was and then every time they introduced someone they'd be like next up meet cely. She is a 525 pound father of three. And it was like, how dare? But also, like, that's how I want to be introduced from now on.
Starting point is 00:41:18 This is Cecily, a 525 pound father of three. Father of three. And her friend Bowen says she is too fat to be a drag queen. She's here to promote the book This Is Us Not Going Anywhere Soon Till the End of the World. And again, she is a 525 pound
Starting point is 00:41:39 father of three. Honestly, wow. Okay, so I didn't know that that new information came out about Erica. But Bowen, what are you thinking? I'm thinking, I keep getting pulled in all these different directions, but I think I'm landing
Starting point is 00:41:55 at a place where Matt and I watched the most recent episode together where she meets Kyle, and she fully has a breakdown, and you're like, I'm kind of convinced that... I do think Bravo is, you know, doing their best to, quote unquote, protect her, which I think is valid and noble and whatever. But now I am convinced that, like, she probably just had no fucking idea.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I think that two things can be true. I think that she can have no idea what the hell that was. And I think that she also might have idea what the hell that was and i think that she also might have to give that money back because it's not hers i don't think that i don't mean to say i'm not on her side and that she should keep that money no i just don't think she should go to prison of course not or be like or be implicated in like i cheated people out of a plane crash or whatever you know what i mean it's that's when she's like i sing very gay songs yeah at gay club what i'm not here to like cheat
Starting point is 00:42:52 victims yeah it is so it is kind of funny though that like pretty much her entire narrative on the show and in her career is, I have a lot of money. And now it's like, the money is from these tragedies. And that like, you know, not all of it, obviously, because he worked on other things, but like, you know, it's dark and sad. And I think she'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:43:21 I do. She will be. I think like she didn't start off with money and she like talks about that she's always worked hard i think it's like now the narrative will be i got less money like i think she'll make the new narrative and she'll be fine she didn't need tom's business ever no maybe like very early on to get started to buy some things but she's always been talented she's always been talented and i have to i'm sorry to bring this back to estenelle but the one thing i appreciate about your sketch where
Starting point is 00:43:49 you played her basically is something that my my parents really appreciate is um is that you do you know what i'm about to talk about to say where you know i'm just laughing that your parents loved it is the part where you you're singing the song and then you count to five in Chinese or you count to four in Chinese. You go, E-R-S-S. In Mandarin, yeah. Man, it's so funny. Anyway, it's a perfect Erica Jade impression, we have to say.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Well, you know, when I did a Chinese opera in college directed by Chen Shizheng. You did a Beijing opera? Mm-hmm. Well, Chen Shizheng. You did a Beijing opera? Mm-hmm. Well, Chen Shizheng directed it, but that's why I know how to count to eight in Mandarin. Oh, my God. And I was playing a three-teen prostitute. We went, ah, yeah, and then we, yeah, and I was the head of the ukulele group.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Oh, my God. I was the uk of the ukulele group. Group? Oh, my. Brigade. I was the ukulele captain of the prostitutes. Oh, my God. What a powerful position to be in. You can be the ukulele captain of the prostitutes. Is that what you said?
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yeah. It's either that or Baroque bitch. I don't know. I kind of like Baroque bitch. Baroque bitch. That's just a good one. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Can I take this in? It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part had me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude.
Starting point is 00:46:51 And Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dude.
Starting point is 00:47:08 We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules.
Starting point is 00:47:24 New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:47:57 At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:48:38 We have to ask Cecily the question. We do have to ask the question. Bowen, what's the question? I forgot. Cecily, the question is, we ask this to all of our guests, and that is, what is the culture that made you say, culture is for me? This is formative culture
Starting point is 00:48:52 that made your life move into a cultural direction. Sure. Well, I would say that my culture, for sure, was Strangers with Candy. Oh. There we go. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:49:04 And I watched it on a landline, dragged out in front of the TV with my gay friend, Graham Kostick. Have we talked about this before? No, but is this the Graham we know in New York City? Different Graham. Different Graham. Different Graham.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Okay. But it was like, I was like a sophomore in high school and we would just be on the landlines laughing, watching Strangers of Candy together. And was this your gateway into like Second City and like who Amy Sedaris was and like all these things? Definitely Amy Sedaris. But, and I also like, I'm always, I think like weirdly waiting for Guffman and all the Christopher Guest movies, Catherine O'Hara and Strangers with Candy. And then, weirdly enough, Bottle Rocket were like my favorite formative comedy.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And like, this is my world. But especially Strangers with Candy, it was like the fans of that show and me. It was like, that's my world. Those are my people. These are all really good. Bottle Rocket's interesting, too. like that's my world those are my culture these are all really good bottle rockets interesting too like that's like that's a wes anderson that like people it's the first one it's the first one yeah i love i think owen wilson is so funny in that movie he's great i mean like i i i don't
Starting point is 00:50:19 think i've ever seen him in anything i didn't like him and i found him like very appealing and i think he's like a star and i love his little nose i think he's fat i had such a crush on him for so long but it felt like i think wes anderson without owen wilson is just not doesn't do it for me it doesn't think no and i think like the movies are great and they look cool but i think owen wilson is so funny and there's just something about just like such a person with low self-esteem, you know, like just kind of like not a, who's not great at things,
Starting point is 00:50:49 but that you root for. Yeah. I mean, was that, was that, was that the first Luke and Owen feature? Like, like was that the first time you saw that?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Like you were introduced to him? Yeah. Cause they, they did it in college. It was like a 15 minute film. And then they, they made a full movie. And I will say,
Starting point is 00:51:06 this is the one where I always have like, my gay friends will go now that's interesting. And which one was that again? It's like, we're all on board for best in show and strangers of candy. And my bottle rockets really where I D where I go off onto my own. No, I love that though,
Starting point is 00:51:24 because bottle rocket, there's something No, I love that though, because Bottle Rocket, there's something about, I feel like, and I'm not just saying this because you're contextualizing it with these other queer works, but I'm like, I feel like,
Starting point is 00:51:37 because I think Waiting for Guffman and Strangers with a Candy are kind of queer in some sense. Very much so. I would say very, yeah. It's almost exclusively. If there's a drag race challenge about you, it's like...
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yes. But Waiting for Guffman, I feel like, doesn't... Well, you know, I mean, like... Corky. I mean, like, Corky is gay. Gay icon. I mean, if Parker Posey's given a chance to shine,
Starting point is 00:52:02 you've got a queer... Teacher's pet. Teacher's pet. Come on. You've got a queer... Teacher's pet. Teacher's pet. Come on. You've got a queer ride. I got a great pantsuit for my wife, Bonnie. And he's in a Judy Tanuta shirt, dancing. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But Bottle Rocket is... I watched it last summer, weirdly, because I was researching crime movies. Not crime movies, but like... Wait, no. Am I getting it wrong? no am i getting it wrong you might be i don't know but i want to hear more no no it wasn't it's not quite no i was trying to write i was trying to write a crime movie and then i wanted some dynamic to be like similar to
Starting point is 00:52:36 bottle rocket where it's um owen like the owen wilson character is kind of dragging luke's character along and all these like and all these schemes and luke is luke has is kind of dragging Luke's character along and all of these, like, and all these schemes. And Luke is, Luke has just kind of been broken out of this, like, you know, he didn't even get broken.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Yeah. He was in a mental hospital, but it was voluntary. But, and then the doctor's like, why are you jumping out of the window? And he's like, he didn't know that it's a voluntary hospital and he kind of needs this. So he's pretending
Starting point is 00:53:06 to break out for Owen Wilson who's going like, call, call. He needs that. He needs that. And they do go on to pull off all these heists. Well, they rob Luke Wilson's house.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Right. And he takes the earrings and he's like, you said, I told you just don't take the earrings. Right. I got those for my mom for her birthday. Yeah. It's just a good,
Starting point is 00:53:34 like, it's a great loser, but lovable loser. But, and it's friendly. His friend tries to take care of him. Yeah. You know what I'm realizing?
Starting point is 00:53:43 Owen Wilson does a lot of two-handers like he's like a very he's like always loki too well i mean loki like the shanghai noon shanghai nights of it all wedding crashers famously like it feels like owen wilson is great at reacting he's just always he's just yeah he's he's there to underline what's what the reality is and what's going on. Yeah. I appreciate it, too. Someone who's great in an ensemble or a team. Yeah. Someone who can fade in but stand out. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:54:14 We know you. Exactly. And support and lift and be there for the others and doesn't need all the attention and lets other people shine. I think it's great. Cecily has her face all the way up to the camera. She's completely filled to the frame. And let other people shine. I think it's great. Cecily has her face all the way up to the camera. She's completely filled to the frame. And let other faces shine.
Starting point is 00:54:32 No, I remember, so wait, Strangers with Candy, this is iconic gay Stephen Colbert. Strangers with Candy is my favorite thing ever. And you certainly, I know it's like so boring to be like you couldn't do that show now you could you really couldn't but maybe you could i mean it's so funny though that like you maybe could you know what you could do you could do like a 15 minute show you know what i mean like you you could get like they could do like a 15 it could sneak in there like the way like i think you should leave somehow snuck onto netflix and i'm like oh my god this is the funniest thing ever so funny that i almost can't believe it was made
Starting point is 00:55:08 fuck i know oh my god i think there is there is a really tiny sliver of space where you could make it today because that is the character of jerry blank that she is like offensive to everybody um and but the problem is there's so many people who think like that's what they do for comedy and they're like sure it's just offensive deal with it and you're like but well it's not funny i wouldn't consider like amy sedaris to be like edgy comedian you know like i don't think she was ever going she's a clown exactly there it is and but i mean it is troubling to think like you could like you couldn't have like a principal black man the kind of thing and like there are there's just so many good lines with the supermodel in that episode it's like i'm doctor something something supermodel 10 years ago a modeling
Starting point is 00:56:00 agent told me what my dreams are and you can too and then when she takes the test to see what her things it's like what's your favorite color lemon rest she's lying what's your favorite animal kitten i mean in the in the first scene of in the second scene of the first episode, you have Stephen Colbert writing on the chalkboard, and don't make it. Fag me. Yes. Fag me. And we don't know what exactly the Native Americans did to the buffalo, but it was something because they all committed suicide
Starting point is 00:56:45 by jumping in front of the white man's bullets. You know, you know, I think that I hope you feel, I'm going to tell you what people have told me and that I haven't taken to heart, as she pours some more burgundy. You got to like really understand like how wonderful you are on that show and on every show but but but really on this show that is so tough to crack like you really are are pretty incredible well that's
Starting point is 00:57:16 very very sweet bowen i mean i think the world's a few and so i'll take that from you i think it's like i love it so much and i you know was attached since 2018 or whatever and so i got take that from you. I think it's like, I love it so much and I, you know, was attached since 2018 or whatever. And so I got a lot of time with the material and got to say, hey, can we lower the key of this song, et cetera. But I think it's just, since I loved it so much, it was, you know, and you love something, so you'll be better at it.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it really is like so special. There's something powerful about it being shot. Like one of those, you know, golden age musicals.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And did you ever meet Chris Gatelli, the choreographer? No, never met him. I feel he is one of my favorite parts of this whole thing. And I feel like my favorite note I've ever gotten. And I think like, you'll appreciate this.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And he was like, when you just about how these old stars used to like flirt with the camera really because of these wide shots. And it was like, you know, these women are doing these scenes, but it's like, Oh,
Starting point is 00:58:19 he's turning out of the camera. And it was like, and if you'll notice next time you watch it, anytime I dip in that show, my head is out to the camera. And was like and if you'll notice next time you watch it anytime i dip in that show my head is out to the camera and i think just from now on anytime i dip i'm looking at a camera and i'm like thank you chris catelli that's my favorite note i've ever gotten and i know we all should do that we all don't know if you just watched the jimmy fallon something stupid sketch i had a dip and i head to camera this is one of those lifelong notes that you just really it really is it's one of those oh i love it i love it i will say also like i had just had another light bulb moment
Starting point is 00:58:59 which is that kristin chenoweth played velma von tussle with dove cameron who was amber von tussle in the hairspray thing and also just watching kristin chenoweth with dark hair playing this thing and oh yes i do and like i just feel like she's just giving you every chenoweth at such a high level and my one friend texted me he was like chenoweth is a standout on this show. And I was like, well, imagine she wasn't. Imagine she wasn't. Like, imagine Chenoweth came in and we were like, oh, yeah. No, Chenoweth is going to come in and give it to you. She didn't really bring it for this one.
Starting point is 00:59:34 She didn't really. Chenoweth wasn't landing in this musical theater show called Schmigadoon. She's so great. And I feel like she was like the first that I was active, like, quoting. Because she does things like that. I guess I do. I guess I do. She has so great. And I feel like she was like the first that I was active, like quoting because she does things like that. I guess I do. She has another one. She goes, OK, I'll do it. I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:59:54 I'll do it. That's in a later episode. But just get ready for it. OK, I'll do it. And she's three foot six. She's three foot six? She's three foot six. And her hands are this big. One of our shortest icons.
Starting point is 01:00:15 She's a tiny lady. She is. And then Alan singing that song in the second episode is so freaking funny. Are you gay? And so sweet. I mean, I feel like I cried the whole thing anyway in a good way good tears good cries and i will say this speaking of crying like the second episode you are so good and you're giving us parts of cecily that we've never seen and that's what i love i'm like i like I like that scene. Spoiler alert, big,
Starting point is 01:00:45 big beat here. So people can skip. But when you guys decide you're going to be, when you guys decide you're going to break up temporarily, I'm sure I hope, um, you are so good in that scene. I'm just like,
Starting point is 01:01:00 wow. Like, I don't know. I just, whenever, whenever like my favorite people on SNL get like like 80 with shrill and like I'm telling you when you guys see Vanessa in this show Vanessa has a scene in the pilot Vanessa has a scene in the pilot where I'm just like I was
Starting point is 01:01:16 I literally I in the scene I'm like receiving the information she's like telling it to me and I'm like I was literally crying and i'm like i i was literally crying and i was like the camera isn't on me but they're good i'm giving good stuff but i'm crying because she of her performance like it's so funny and so good and so whenever you guys get a chance to show like another shade that isn't you guys being the best clowns i'm always like i just i get so excited and and like in watching this i like, this is so exciting. The cheers of a clown, as they say. I think all of us
Starting point is 01:01:50 are very good criers. I don't know that I haven't really been tested in that way yet, and I'm really nervous for that day. I cried on high maintenance, but yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It wasn't like, but it wasn't that kind of like really. I would eat my shoe if you're not a good crier. I know you are. Because you feel things. He's a really good crier in real life. Like sometimes like Bowen in real life, when he cries, you can tell he's been trying to hold it back. And then he cries and you're like no
Starting point is 01:02:26 oh yeah it doesn't happen often I cried today to Bowen on FaceTime oh yeah I love to hear it I'm a big crier you gotta you have to get these cries out astrologically what's your deal oh could you guess
Starting point is 01:02:42 are you a Scorpio? No. Are you a Taurus? Oh, God. I'm a Taurus moon. I'm an Aquarius. Aquarius. Aquarius.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Okay, got it. And this is the mystique. This is the intrigue that Cecily cultivates. I guess. That Scorpio intrigue, I guess. Not at all. I'm in a fucking tie-dye. This is Aquarius, baby.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Yeah, that's very Aquarius. And you would never guess with all this blue around me and this blue shirt and the fact that I just said I wept earlier, but I am a Pisces, rising Pisces, Cancer Moon, Pisces in Mercury as well. There's water all over my chart. When you said
Starting point is 01:03:22 no, I'm not a Scorpio, I had to sort of shudder because you know who's one of the Scorpio kings is Bon Yang. Well, listen, my dad and my brother are both Scorpios. I just,
Starting point is 01:03:31 I have no water in me. Yeah. And yet you are still, you're still in touch with your emotional center, your emotional power. But it is very much like it's an intellectual
Starting point is 01:03:41 trying to understand my emotions. Yes. Right. Oh yeah. I relate to that. Definitely. that definitely yeah definitely relate as opposed to being like just help take take me away which i that's my hilarious impression of a water sign you know yeah sometimes i'll be like i can't i there's the water signs in my life are being exhausting right now well okay i have a really basic question which is in that scene where you guys uh have that have that breakup i mean how many takes was that how
Starting point is 01:04:11 many takes did you do total and did you save it for your coverage like what like what was that like no i think i cried every take good every and both sides because it also i feel like when you when we were doing it and the other thing is we didn't have to we didn't do a lot of takes which I really loved about Barry he was kind of like if he got it he got it and he was like if a director ever says to you let's get one more just like that he's like they're wasting your time I love this Barry because and also they had to spend so much time setting up these shots it's just like the amount of time that people put in. And there's COVID.
Starting point is 01:04:47 So to not mess around with 8,000 takes was great. But I think also when you give something to the person that's on camera, then they give a better performance too. Always. 100%. I feel like it's kind of crazy too like now almost everything that's coming out now like has been shot during covid like it's weird to think that now like we used to think that was like a novelty like oh it was shot during covid like they pulled it off but now
Starting point is 01:05:16 it's like everything that we're seeing now that's new has been shot during covid was that was that was that shot at a time when that was very hard? In the fall, right? Yeah. I think it was just like, again, like everything else that was being done. It wasn't like very different from SNL, I guess. But, you know, it's like you're being tested. But in Vancouver, because they didn't have an outbreak like us, so they would shut down if like testing couldn't keep up like if you could if the test couldn't get done fast enough this is the science way they say it if the testing
Starting point is 01:05:52 couldn't get done in the labs that's what she was saying then they would shut you had to everybody had to shut down so it was really like they weren't shutting down because of cases they were shutting down because of testing but we wound up like we got through the whole show and we didn't get shut down we were really lucky but i also think like you make a commitment to each other like we get to do this and we get to do musical theater especially and we get to sing and we get to kiss and dance and hug that it's like then then don't go out to eat. It's fine. We can make this commitment for seven weeks because we get to work. Yeah, that's really fair. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:06:32 So there's kissing. There's more kissing in the show. So maybe there's a little bit more kissing. I can't wait to hear. I can't wait to see you and Aaron's vape come out the other side of that tunnel. And I hope that they bang. I really hope they bang.
Starting point is 01:06:48 We'll see. Well, I guess you'll have to tune in Friday, July 20th, 23rd. There we go. Not everyone can do that high-waisted thing, but he's really doing that high-waisted thing. Yeah. He's like a little Newsies body, that tight sort of musical. Well yeah he's like a little newsies body that tight sort of musical he's in a little newsies cap too yeah yeah but i will say i just want to and not to you know blow anything but there's going to be a jaime camille that's going to be very i think
Starting point is 01:07:19 another exciting thing for an audience there's gonna be a be a what? A High Make Camille. Another hunk. What is that? High Make Camille. Oh, there's another hunk coming in. There's another hunk. We're getting another hunk. And we're getting Jane Krakowski. We're getting the hunk of Jane Krakowski come on. A whole hunk of talent, more like. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:40 The hunk in every way. Yes. She does the splits behind me. Upside down and i won't you'll see she's amazing speaking of death drop and splits and talent what are we thinking of all stars six because i know you're a super fan right okay what what was the last i had a very crazy week but you know what it is i There's like some people I'm like, okay, let's get through a couple of these. I'm actually liking Ginger Minj a lot.
Starting point is 01:08:11 She killed the last episode. I always like Akaria. Yeah. Akaria. Akaria C. Davenport. Where are you guys at? What are you thinking? Yeah, I was disappointed with this last episode. I appreciate this season for making me like queens
Starting point is 01:08:27 who i didn't have any opinion on before um i'm like oh like i i like that i i am into raja yeah i like that i'm into definitely a better showing for raja yes much yes much yeah she's like really fun also i have to tell you like in this last episode spoiler alert if you haven't seen it skip ahead but scarlet envy got eliminated and i've been liking scarlet envy i like i constantly feel like she kind of gets the short ends and i'm like her drag is really good and i don't i don't know i just just she's tough for everyone. And one of those everyones might be me. But I say that with respect and go, and she's gorgeous and great at it. As they all are.
Starting point is 01:09:12 And there's one other queen that is not for me. But I'm like, who cares about it? I don't want to criticize these amazing queens. But I'll say it and I'll mouth it to you. Okay. This queen drives me nuts. Oh, okay. Okay. This queen drives me nuts. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:25 My dad wanted me to sing for his friends and would beat me and that's why I can't do this choreography. And I'm like, the only person that can say that is Michael Jackson. Yeah. You were a guest. You helped them with their roast oh i loved that
Starting point is 01:09:48 episode yes i don't know if i helped much but i was there you did you were great no you were great wait but what what season was that season that was all stars for all stars for monet you were helping monet and valentina my favorite queen but i guess and i didn. Monet, who was like my favorite queen, but I couldn't say, and I didn't know, like I was doing all stars. I didn't know that I was going to be seeing Monet. And then I was like, well, this isn't fair because I'm going to, of course I want you to win. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Sure. So you were like a Monet fan from back. Oh, big time. Yes. Yeah. Love Monet. And saw her one woman show. My birthday in New York was great.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Oh, right. You had on my favorite guest judge introduction line, which was, well, you look cute. And then Rue goes, Cecily Strong, you look cute. And you said, I don't get cute. I get drop-dead gargaz. Gargaz. Yeah, gargaz.
Starting point is 01:10:40 That's a very James Anderson reading on it. I was just going to say, how dare we talk about these queens without mentioning that peppermint is in the goddamn show schmigadoon friend of the show friend of us all uh friend of us all when she turned around i was like oh my god i didn't know miss peppermint was in this miss fortune teller was a huge deal and it was like especially also because it is a love letter to Broadway that it was like Peppermint made Broadway history. Made Broadway history. Was the first trans woman to originate a role.
Starting point is 01:11:15 Open a show. Oh, to originate a role. Yes, yes, yes. And head over heels. And I'm, it's so, she's just like, she makes history all the time and it's like no big deal to her. And she's so funny and so amazing. Another Aquarius. And I hope that I'm like, if we get a season two, I hope that it's the world's less COVID-y and like we get to have more of Peppermint.
Starting point is 01:11:35 Because it was hard to get, it was hard to fly people out. Of course. Like Bowen, you were supposed to be in the show. Right. But we couldn't, you know, timing got changed. Sure, sure. Of course. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:44 And then Estenal was happening. I've heard, I mean, timing got changed. Sure, sure, of course. Yeah. And then that's not what's happening. I've heard, I mean, I don't know where, so by the way, the show is co-created by Cinco Paul and Ken Dario, wonderful people. And when we closed the room, there were very interesting directions in which the show could go. Because you'll see, without spoiling anything,
Starting point is 01:12:05 you know know it just things are left in a very interesting place not in a way that you would expect even now as an audience member I'm very excited for people to finish this season I have a prediction I have a prediction for what's going to happen and I've only seen two episodes and I didn't write
Starting point is 01:12:21 in the room and wasn't the star or producer of the show so understand that I'm you were not a consulting producer no I wasn't a consulting producer I'm just like a fan so readers know I'm just like you when I say this the way I think it's gonna end is that it's gonna be like Jurassic World and I think
Starting point is 01:12:38 the characters from the show are gonna creep into the real world I really think that oh that's interesting I think Chenoweth is gonna i think the last shot is gonna be chenoweth in like um a gelsons and she's gonna be walking through and she's gonna you know she's gonna be walking through the gelsons and i'm like ma'am you need you what is this yeah she's gonna be in gelsons an la supermarket you need to wear a mask ma'am coven's gonna be and she's like oh no i don't. COVID's gonna be in the world. And she's like, oh no, I don't!
Starting point is 01:13:05 And that's gonna cut to black, and then you know season two is gonna be like Jurassic World, where the dinosaurs sort of come into the world. Everything was beautiful at the Bellsons! At the Bellsons! At the Bellsons! Did you ever see
Starting point is 01:13:20 Barbara Streisand do that with Anne Hathaway and Daisyisy ridley i heard it yeah so there's like a featurette that is like her coaching them and she it's so funny because she's just like giving the notes like and she like watch barbara direct is i just i love it and you have to watch the featurette of Barbara doing all those songs with people. You gotta. I absolutely will.
Starting point is 01:13:48 That's all I had to say about that. Bowen, anything on Barbara? Any suggestions? Anything to add about Barbara? We love Barbara. We love that she only does movies now where she is sitting down. Sitting down. I want to be comfortable.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Sudie and I saw, one of my favorite memories of my life is when Sudie and i went to go see barbara the the music the magic the memories at barclays and it was barbara back in brooklyn and we went and we were sitting all the way in the back and sudi and i like we were so excited we love barbara so much i was raised on barbara like funny girl was on like every day in my house so um we're there and she before every song she had like an interlude that was like well you know they told me that they the label told me they wanted this picture for the cover of the album and it's like
Starting point is 01:14:37 a picture that's bad and she's in the crowds and she goes well you know i told them i wanted this picture and it's like the picture of the album and then everyone's like and she goes well you know i told them i wanted this picture and it's like the picture and then everyone's like and she's like and you know it did win the grammy for best album cover so anyway this is the way we were and she would go and sing and like kill it she did papa can you hear me and it was like bracingly good it was insane but before every musical number from lentil before every number i'm not kidding so you can verify every number there was a preamble that was someone told me they thought one thing i told them another and i was right and then she started to go off on politics this is pre-election so she went off off on politics and one woman like behind us was like,
Starting point is 01:15:26 we don't want to hear this. We want to hear you sing. Shut up. Shut up. And we're like, what did you think was going to happen? You came to a Barbra Streisand show in the year of our Lord 2018.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah. Did Barbra, did she go Patty and go like, who was that? Did she put the spotlight? She didn't hear it, but I'm happy she didn't because I think she would have. I'm? She didn't hear it, but I'm happy she didn't because I think she would have.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I'm glad she didn't hear. It would have derailed the entire show. Barbara's shouting to the nosebleeds. Who said that? Who said that? Who said that? No, I want to talk. Let's talk.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Remember Manila Luzon's insane Barbara? Oh, that was, I mean, it wasn't. It was borderline something. We love Manila. We do love Manila. Do we love Manila? I love Manila, but maybe that's just like because I get
Starting point is 01:16:18 Manila Luzon a lot. You do? What do you mean? It's more like I'm being, it's like self, like I like her because I'm loving myself when I say that. People tell you you're giving Manila Luzon? What? More like that we look alike. No.
Starting point is 01:16:36 I take, I love that. I think sort of. I think Manila's gorgeous. Yeah. I very happily take that. I just, I don't see it for either of you okay well i can't wait till my concert when i go well you know when a lot of people told me enough like manila luzon but you know what i said i think i do
Starting point is 01:17:00 and i was right i went on anyway here's the way we were and then i went on to be right people they went on to be right have you been dying to sing on a televised program that wasn't saturday night live because you can sort of like really pop off oh probably not no really there's like a safety to saturday night live kind of that it's like because it's sketch comedy it's always like we get to be character-y. You don't have to be good. You know how like I have to get so drunk to do karaoke. I don't like karaoke because I feel, this is going to sound really obnoxious, but I don't like karaoke because I'm in pain afterwards.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And I don't like to feel like I screamed. And it's hard to sound, it's actually hard to sound good. You're like, you never know what the key's gonna be and you're like oh this is the weird part of the song i don't totally know right right right i'm always like practicing beforehand and like that's not a fun night what song do you think bowen and i do every time we do karaoke and have the harmonies on lock what song do you think we do oh that's tough i don't think i know the answer to this myself shut up there's so like i just feel like that could be anything because there's a lot
Starting point is 01:18:11 of like you know it could be like oasis wonderwall it could you know that would be like a confusing one it could be cranberries it could be take me or leave me no we've actually never done take me or leave me which is kind of shocking never done take me or leave me we do've actually never done take me or leave me which is kind of shocking never done take me or leave me we do bowen we do let me be your star from smash but it's not on karaoke i don't think we've done it on a screen on a screen with the words on it how do you do it we do it well we've done it live we do it live with a piano and we we know we we're off book we don't need no you don't need the. You don't need the words. We don't need the words. Do you understand?
Starting point is 01:18:47 Who do you think is the Catherine McPhee? And who do you think is the Megan Hilty? This is an easy question. I would say Bowen is Megan Hilty. Yes, he is. Oh, thank God. I'm sort of Catherine in my mix at the top. And then Bowen comes in with the breast.
Starting point is 01:19:04 You are ready to date Yolanda's ex-husband. Oh yeah, I'm sort of Catherine in my mix at the top. And then Bowen comes in with the breath. You are ready to date Yolanda's ex-husband. Oh yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready 100%. Yes. I still talk to my dog like Yolanda talked to him. Are you ready for dinner, my love? Hello, my love. Do you miss Yolanda?
Starting point is 01:19:21 I feel bad for her. I feel like the lines really... Oh, good evening, my love. Would you like something in my mouth? Good evening, my love. Oh. She's... I feel so bad for her
Starting point is 01:19:30 because I feel like the Lyme's really kind of... Well, Lyme's disease, a.k.a. Yolanda Hadid syndrome. It's kind of like Lou Gehrig's ALS. I call... Yolime's disease. Yolime's disease. Yolime's disease.
Starting point is 01:19:42 If I ever do get Lyme's, I don't have Lyme'simes I have Yolanda Hadid syndrome like that's how I'll tell people did people say because I didn't watch Beverly Hills before this season did she have Munchausen's no she had limes
Starting point is 01:19:56 I'm sorry I'm sorry but there wasn't that is just what Lisa Rinna heard she got a text from a friend and while they were in Dubai and she was in like a black turban and they talked it out though she was like I just had a
Starting point is 01:20:14 friend I just my friend told me I got a text I don't know what it means and they were all in turbans in Dubai talking about Munchausen and that's why we love that show Beverly Hills
Starting point is 01:20:28 is great and also Beverly Hills is great New York when it's great is great and Potomac
Starting point is 01:20:33 is always killing it I'm so late on Potomac and it did so much for me I loved it so much
Starting point is 01:20:42 I just got into it and I'm like very ready now for this new season to binge. We're only two episodes into this new season, and I think it's interesting so far. I don't think it'll quite reach that ugliness as last season, which kind of helps. I didn't love the ugliness for it.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I didn't love it either, but it did fuel the second half in a way that felt interesting I was like well I'm watching I'm like I'm keyed in every single moment now yeah Bowen was on watch what happens live with Monique with Monique Samuels yeah so that was like oh wow yeah like during the thick of it oh wow
Starting point is 01:21:18 it was like this it was like the episode it was the episode after that that like barnyard like like fight and I was just like the wine barnyard the wine barnyard yeah oh i know uh well i was like you know i support you moon i didn't i didn't say i support you monique but like but like they like threw it over to me they were like but what do you have to you have to right yeah they're like what do you have to say about all about all this potomac stuff i was like i just hope there's space for radical compassion.
Starting point is 01:21:47 And you said, fuck Ramona Singer, that white supremacist. She said, I hope she dies alone about Ramona. I said, I hope she dies alone. I said, she's a white supremacist. I said, I hope she dies alone. Well, of course I'm going to die alone.
Starting point is 01:22:02 Absolutely, we're all going to die alone. But I hope I look fabulous doing it. I want going to die alone. Absolutely, we're all going to die alone. But I hope I look fabulous doing it. I want someone to hold me. Remember that scene last year? Oh, you're a really cute guy. What a cute guy you are. You guys are really cute guys. Cute guy.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Hot guys are here. It's so humiliating. You're like, how is this happening? My 50 best girlfriends and two hot guys are coming over. What? I just invited my 50 best girlfriend. You're not one of them. Big deal.
Starting point is 01:22:27 You're not one of them. You're embarrassing me in front of hot guys. Because your vagina is out. I don't want to talk like that, okay? Vagina. Because that's not what's sexy, okay? Sexy is, you know, tickling with a little feather, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:42 It's not anything nasty because now you're being nasty, okay? Okay, wait. And oh my God, poor Sonia and her thing about Garth. Oh, Sonia. Do you remember when she called someone? Well, I'm going to talk to you. Too much is sad this season.
Starting point is 01:23:00 What are your thoughts on the rumors that Bethany may return? I loved Bethany. I got to say it. And you know why I loved Bethany? Because nobody burned Ramona Singer like Bethany Frankel. And I could watch that all day, every day. You don't support other women.
Starting point is 01:23:20 And then, like, the waiter would come over and Ramona would say something. Bethany would be like, what is this? Well, now she's just telling her, like, i guess we're doing this now because it's some weirdo talking telling her fucking word it was always like just out of nowhere she would just and ramona was like oh bethany i don't and it was just like bethany burns ramona so well yeah i don't like bethany i think she's chaotic evil but I will say she is unfortunately a star and funny. And when I was recently, my friend Patrick is watching.
Starting point is 01:23:50 Very funny. He was watching New York from the beginning and it's the season two reunion when they're like ganging up on Kelly Ben Simone and they're like, you can't talk to her. It's like talking to Humpty Dumpty. She's so funny.
Starting point is 01:24:04 And my other favorite moment is when she puts on that tiny little bikini to tell Luann about Tom. Oh, my God. So I heard something. Is it about Tom? Tell me it's not about Tom. It's about Tom. Just don't tell me it's about Tom. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:24:19 And then she goes, when it's like, question mark. I just heard a rumor about you period that was like I couldn't believe her life fell apart in slow motion for so long I can't believe
Starting point is 01:24:38 but she looks so great and I that's the price that she paid to some witch that it's like her life is pricey and she And I almost know that's the price that she paid to some witch. Yeah. That it's like her life is pricey and she, but she looks so good. She looks so good. But isn't that Ramona's deal with the witch too? I need all of their, like, don't you want their doctors? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I mean, they all look incredible. I mean, they all do, right. They all, there's bones, structures, and bodies that I don't have access to. But the doctor, I want to know because I think they look so good. Yeah. You know, like I said, like whenever I'm home and I've been home a couple times recently and I make my mother watch Housewives with me and she doesn't naturally like it. So every time I put it on, she always comments like, wow, that one's had a lot of work done.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Look at the work on that one. Wow wow they've all had so much work done and I'm like mom we're post this like yes this is the way they look we're posted we can't comment I was like I can't I turned to her I paused it. Sheena Marie is 25 and she's got Botox and she goes these women they have too much work done I'm like
Starting point is 01:25:42 mom this is just this is what it is and then she's like i don't know i just don't like it and i'm like yeah but like 25 year olds like have botox now and look stars and like all this stuff and don't you think like somehow they look different like everybody looks the same when they get work done to a certain level and they just look like themselves they look great i know i don't see it anymore they've bypassed something yeah they did there's it's good i don't know because i'm always like guys i tried electrolysis five years ago once so i don't know what anything good you know that's like as like crazy as i get i used to crest white strip everyone.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I think I'm overusing them. I'm not. But you look, you have great teeth. Bowen has really good teeth too. Bowen, you do the crest white strips. I haven't in years. I think you should. I think you.
Starting point is 01:26:36 We're serving face. You should accordion style it. We're serving face. Did we all watch Legendary? Yes. Oh my God. Face. I mean, wait, what was her name?
Starting point is 01:26:44 Shannon. Shannon. Mother Shannon. Mother Shannon. Oh my God. legendary yes oh my god face i mean wait what was her name shannon shannon mother shannon mother shannon oh my god wait matt has to matt has to watch legendary are you not watching legendary no no i watched season one and then i i've held i haven't i've been she was really great i haven't been able to i almost like more i want to watch it all on the block right now i have to watch all these keanu reeves movies um to do the episode of the Keanu thing I'm doing on HBO Max Movie Podcast streaming now presented by Art Media thank you and HBO Max
Starting point is 01:27:11 you're so good solo Matt did you listen to it? I listened to the beginning I haven't listened to the whole thing you were so good and so funny thank you for listening to it anyway it's been cute I'm going to listen to it you guys cute um but uh anyway i'm gonna listen to it i just wanted you guys both need to come on i'm gonna have you both on um and that'll be a fun
Starting point is 01:27:32 bring us on to talk about you should convince hbo max to have yentl on the platform and then we'll both come on and talk about yentl uh yes i have to see what movies are coming up and pick one for each of you um and also I just feel like there's so much like I want to watch Loki I want to watch Legendary Bowen's yelling at me because I still haven't watched Watchmen like there's so much and I want to watch this on White Orchid or whatever this like
Starting point is 01:27:55 new Mike White show White Lotus yeah I heard it's unbelievable there's so much you've got great Jennifer Coolidge work, great Connie Britton work, Steve Zahn. Hello. So good.
Starting point is 01:28:10 For a second, Steve Zahn, I mixed with Ian Ziering. Do you say Ziering or Ziering? Ziering. I haven't said either. Bowen's never said either of their names. For a second, I was like, wow, Bowen's a real fan of Ian Ziering.
Starting point is 01:28:28 But clearly, you're not. Natasha Rothwell is in it. Oh, yeah, Natasha Rothwell. Oh, how do we love Natasha? Come on. The queen. Come on. And talk about someone who's overdue to...
Starting point is 01:28:39 Bowen, we need to get Natasha on. We need to get Natasha on. Next week. We should ask her for next week. She'll do it. need to get natasha on we need to get next week what we should ask her for next week did one of the best comedic monologues i've ever seen at ucb where she played a flight attendant and it i i anyway watch it just search it natasha rothwell ucb flight attendant monologue she's so fucking good she and and not obviously she's done bigger things than that ucb monologue but like no she'd appreciate that i think yeah her roots
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Starting point is 01:30:34 Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.
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Starting point is 01:31:45 My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if
Starting point is 01:32:24 you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Anyway, I think it's time to move to I Don't Think So, Honey. So I think we've sort of moved to that episode,
Starting point is 01:32:49 that point in the episode where we do I Don't Think So, Honey, which is a 60-second segment that we have here on Lost Culture Reefs. By the way, my hand just sort of rang over. Look at this Speedo I got sent today. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. That's cute. That's really cute.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Right? It's from Homoco. It says, yeah, look at that. Homoco. Anyway, they sent it to me. And my hand ran over it. And so I just had to show it. That wasn't product placement.
Starting point is 01:33:19 It was literally right here. Look what I got from Homoco. Okay. it was literally right here um okay so this is a 60 second segment where we absolutely pop the f off sorry on some an item of culture or anything in the world really that we just feel like dressing absolutely down and it's done in every single episode of lost college and this episode will be no exception so bowen uh i do have something okay this is matt rodgers i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey the seat covers for toilets thanks but no thanks it's made of shit fabric like what is this it's like it's like the consistency of half a piece of toilet paper and then you have have to negotiate it. You have to cut out the middle part
Starting point is 01:34:06 so you can lay it down over the seat so you don't, like, fucking, I don't know, get a little bit of piss on your ass skin. Grow up. If you're a gay man who eats ass, you can sit down bare ass on a goddamn toilet. I'm over it. Also, not for nothing,
Starting point is 01:34:20 but if I don't want to have that little piece of piss on my ass, what you do is you take the toilet paper and you you do just so you get it off or do what i do just take four strips of toilet paper and creatively put it on the seat it's also going to be better than that fat stupid shit that they put on there also while i'm at it, automatic toilet flushers, thanks, but no thanks. I'm going to do it myself. I don't need to have you in my head afterwards. What if I leave the bathroom and then I'm concerned that you don't flush?
Starting point is 01:34:54 I know there's a button, but you can't always find it. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. Baby, at the gym, at the airport, at all these places, I'm like places i'm like at the airport it's the most important place mama so you what you do is you take four pieces of toilet paper and do it on the seat because you can't negotiate with these toilet seat covers yes you can't you have extra half second to align mama they're not negotiable sweetie i don't think so honey no sweetie no no no this is we're having this discussion you can you can take those covers
Starting point is 01:35:30 darling deer and you can blot them on your face if you want to get the shine off too those absorb well i'm not very shiny ever hun because i put sunscreen on every day so i make sure that i take care of it well maybe not for you blotchychy bitch. All I'm saying is, you have to do so much business to get the toilet seat cover on the toilet bowl seat, and I'm just like, I'm sorry, but I'm in here because I have to shit now. I think I'd love to ask the toilet
Starting point is 01:35:55 what I've done to start the toilet flush when it starts. Because I'm always on the damn seat, and I'm always on the damn seat. And I'm like, now what has my body done? What movement has happened?
Starting point is 01:36:11 I'm so concerned. What phantom has passed? And there's nothing worse. And you know these toilets I'm talking about. The white toilets. White. And they're like, oh, sorry. I guess I thought you were done.
Starting point is 01:36:22 Because most people would be done right now. You're like, I'm peeing. Get over it. They flush so aggressively, too. They're like the ones that go. And then the water, you get the splash back. And I hate that. When you have the water from the toilet bowl, from the flush, the aggressive flush, hit your butt.
Starting point is 01:36:42 And then you have to deal with that. I'm like, get out. It's like a hard enough thing to shit at all. And now you're going to make it this much difficult? I don't think so, honey. And if I'm in a public restroom at a gym or an airport and I have to shit, I don't have time to do the toilet bowl cover.
Starting point is 01:37:03 It's an emergency. Because, right, we're not choosing to go number two in public if we can help never once in my life i literally i don't i don't know what it is but like i would rather i'd rather die i'd rather die than like then like go to the bathroom in a public place like no that's sacred that's what my toilet bowl at home is for and I just like it's like everything about it it's like that's the crack in the stall door that is
Starting point is 01:37:34 wide like are you kidding like anyone any goose and gander could like look in here and see me in the throes and now I'm like thinking about that the toilet seat cover is constantly sliding off it's an untrustworthy lock
Starting point is 01:37:50 for sure untrustworthy lock also the toilet seat covers like are not wide enough to cover the whole seat so it's like just like it's like you're not aligning this is I I also have a huge fat ass so it's like it's not working
Starting point is 01:38:07 wait get a screenshot of this it's gonna be the episode thing did they get it they got it they didn't they're fired if they didn't they're fired wow yes okay okay trying to save your job we got it okay we got it huge okay um now bowen yang is gonna pop off yes so you disagree with mine and i will see if i disagree with yours this in essence is bowen yang's i don Think So Honey. Her time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey is CC's Pizza's closing down, going out of business, right as marijuana legalization is really starting to take off in this country. It is the
Starting point is 01:38:54 ultimate quintessential stoner chain restaurant. And yet I'm in Cleveland, Ohio, the land that you would think would, of the free you would think, the land of the CC's Pizza's you would think would of the free you would think in the land of the cc's pizzas you would think and i brought some exquisite edibles with me on my trip here and i thought i'm gonna pop one of these 30 seconds uber i'm gonna go to a cc's pizza and eat alone because i'm willing to
Starting point is 01:39:18 go on that journey for myself i don't care who sees me i am am going to the CC's Pizza alone. And yet, I open up Google Maps. I type in CC's Pizza into the search bar. All of them pop up on my map. They say permanently closed. We have failed. This is an I don't think so honey to society for letting CC's Pizza fail right as marijuana legalization is about to be a popular phenomenon in this country. And I think it's terrible timing. It's diabolical timing.
Starting point is 01:39:49 It does feel like that's on us. Yeah. It is on us. And that's one minute plus. I feel so bummed for you. I'm so, I'm devastated. Bless you. I felt it coming.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I was going to say something else. We're going through Bowen's problems, but you still can bless your friends. Thank you, Bowen. He will always bless me. It's actually rule of culture number 99. He will
Starting point is 01:40:21 always bless me. Are we talking about Bowen or god depends depends on your creed some cultures corner of the internet corner of the internet you know that's i really just wanted to really put that out in the conversation cc's pizzas were really an important part of the fabric of chain restaurants in this country and the fact that they're gone means that you know we're deprived and we were like finally it is after me yes pot is legal and what happened
Starting point is 01:40:51 to CC's? it's so shitty too you know that everyone at CC's is just like so bummed because they were about to make huge money I know it makes me pout it really makes me pout Cecily are you ready for an I don't think so honey
Starting point is 01:41:07 oh sure I knew it and I just apologized in advance no don't do that don't do that mine is me guys no this is Cecily Strong's I don't think so honey
Starting point is 01:41:21 her time starts now I don't think so honey her time starts now okay i don't think so honey woodchucks okay i am trying my little fat ass is trying to grow vegetables in my garden and these motherfuckers and i am like a zen buddhist and i can't kill anything and these motherfucking woodchucks i looked out of my window the other day and six of them are living in a hole they have like the montreal underground mall outside of my house i have had to borrow well not borrow i've taken used cat litter and ground up blood is like this powder that you have to spread i am on like farming blogs to try to understand how to deal with these motherfucking
Starting point is 01:42:04 woodchucks and i was out there in like flip flops holding a big stick the other day. My dog fought with a baby woodchuck. It was the worst day of my life. And I was going, Lucy, no! Lucy, no! And these motherfucking woodchucks ate my broccoli, they ate my lettuce, they ate my sunflowers.
Starting point is 01:42:20 And my little fat ass is trying to grow my vegetables in the Hudson Valley. And that's one minute. The other day. This is awful. The other day. We got the other day twice.
Starting point is 01:42:32 The other day. My little fucking ass or whatever you say. My little fat ass is trying to grow my vegetables to eat. My little fat ass. That sucks, man. That fucking sucks. These little motherfuckers. And they look so man. That fucking sucks. These little motherfuckers. And they look so cute.
Starting point is 01:42:48 But they just... Why wouldn't you let Lucy fight them? Because I was like, I can't see my dog kill. And I can't see my dog get beaten up by a baby. What if she wants to kill, though? Listen, I can't have that. It'll change our relationship. It's too late in the game.
Starting point is 01:43:09 Have you had Lucy killed anything to your knowledge? When a dog kills or when a dog like, when a dog like does something, even on a couth, I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Like I don't, I want to see them as like my pet, not a killer. I peed on my friend's bed on Thanksgiving once. Oh my God. And I was like looking at her and I was like,
Starting point is 01:43:25 I don't even know who you are. As I walked in on it. I don't even know who you are. Who you are. She's shitting and pissing. And it was like, because she was like showing off to their pug, Banji. It was like the two little girls going off to smoke cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:43:43 It was like two little dogs. And my dog was like, want to see something really bad? I'll poop and pee on their bed that motherfucking chaos demon and then yeah and I was like I have to go take a walk around the block cause then I broke a wine glass and I was like forget it
Starting point is 01:43:58 Lucy and I have ruined everything this is Thanksgiving we've ruined Thanksgiving you know what are we gonna do about these woodchucks I'm trying to figure that out. We gotta help. Reader, if you have any suggestions, please send them our way. We'll let Cessna know. And I know about kitty litter. And I have all
Starting point is 01:44:14 the powers. The ground up blood. The ground up blood. It's 49% blood. Isn't that gross? I mean, I get it. You have to make your whole home stink in order to deal with wood checks and that stinks
Starting point is 01:44:27 to me you said Montreal Underground Mall and I got the full picture I really did yes exactly an empty well not empty
Starting point is 01:44:36 and I also have now I have like six little spikes so anytime you walk around my house you always hear like ehhh ehhh
Starting point is 01:44:43 because they're supposed to be like sonar i don't know nothing works nothing works and and they're really they're really killing the garden yes when they get in i mean they they eat it all what are you trying to grow i'm trying to grow broccoli i'm trying to go broccoli i'm trying to go sunflowers cucumbers tomatoes roma tomatoes i'm growing cosmos i'm growing they're like the harry hamlin of the hudson valley i am very much harry hamlin i don't have the pool because we don't have the fire problems right remember the little fire pool but i felt like i got it i understood harry hamlin yeah yeah you really do you really
Starting point is 01:45:26 do well cecily this is a new i don't think i've heard you talk about gardening before this is a wonderful new i'm not a good gardener and that's the other thing is like whenever people come over and they're like oh let me i could teach you how to do this and i'm like no no no no that's it's like that's like would you say that to an eight-year-old with a science kit? You wouldn't say you're doing chemistry wrong. Let them explore. That's true. I like that. I like gardening as a thing you find.
Starting point is 01:45:57 Yeah. It doesn't look good, but every now and then I get to... I've eaten some of my lettuce so far and basil, tomatoes. It really tastes better because of the emotional effect. Yeah. And some days it was like, you know, dinner's all you got. Some days dinner is all you got. It's a rule of culture number 48.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Some days dinner is all you got. COVID really bummed me out today. So I'm just kind of, I'm counting on dinner to make up for it. Don't be bummed. I don't think it's... No, I'm a little bummed all over again. I really am. Oh, I meant, I didn't actually mean today.
Starting point is 01:46:37 Oh God, I bumped everyone out. I meant that as like, that's when I want dinner. No, no, let's not even think about it. We're okay. We're fine. I'm here in LA County and I love my mask. We're going to keep vaccinating peeps. Say that.
Starting point is 01:46:50 Yeah. Say that. All right. Listen. And on that hopeful note, on that hopeful note, as we look to the future, as we look to the future of vaccinated, safe America. Yes. Wow. I should think of Chenoweth
Starting point is 01:47:08 what I'm thinking is going to happen this again is another one of my predictions as not a consulting producer or even the star producer of the show I think
Starting point is 01:47:16 we're going to see Kristen Chenoweth sort of throw off all the dark clothes and she's going to be bright and I think she's going to have a big number where she gives her
Starting point is 01:47:24 classic like that whole thing and I think i think it might happen oh i don't know i'm shaking my little shoulders everything was beautiful at the gelson at the gelson um anyway you laugh because it would be good it would be great I would love it it's a great idea and
Starting point is 01:47:49 as a consulting producer something to think about yeah something to think about something to think about okay well everyone please watch
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Starting point is 01:48:24 Yeah, we're gonna see. Who knows what the future may hold, but I won't be on it maybe one of us will be maybe neither of us will be who knows yeah we're gonna see who knows what the future may hold but i won't be on it everyone you'll be crying on vanessa's show i know i hope i get i'm very excited for it yeah you should ask the writers room for that i know when i go in to visit the writers i'll be like, so I really think I should cry. When I go in to visit the writers. When does that happen? A lot of times. They say hi.
Starting point is 01:48:55 They do? Shows that I've written for they pop in and I say hey what's good. Sure I guess. I guess I'm not invited in there yet so i guess i don't know but i would like to come just message ernie let me know i'm around anyways um god damn it you are the best and this was literally something that we've waited for for a very long time and we're so excited for you the show the show is so good at plural because you're so great for you. All of us. The show is so good. Plural.
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