Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - BONUS | Cultch War: Before The Storm

Episode Date: November 6, 2017

Welcome to: Cultch War.It's fight week: and fight week...is...an acrimonious affair!!!Listen to this "Sportscenter Style" Cultch War preview and be completely compared for the Battle Royale. Matt and ...Bowen breakdown every matchup, every bracket, and every personality. Catch up on all 18 comedians, why were they chosen, their weaknesses, strengths, histories, and x-factors.Blue-Ribbon Panel of Judges: Joel Kim Booster, Michelle Collins, and...and a MYSTERY judge!!How the fucking shit are you not going to Cultch War?Don't hate yourself for the rest of your life. In 5 years, it would cost $850 to see this lineup. BUT TICKETS NOW!Tuesday, November 7 -- Villian -- 8:30PM -- 307 Kent Avenue, BrooklynTICKETS: http://nycomedyfestival.com/event/cultch-war-dont-think-honey-deathmatch/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 bitch! Oh, and I can already tell this is gonna be an acrimonious affair, bitch, cause we're doing this bonus episode in preparation for our show culture tomorrow november 7th at villain in williamsburg 8 30 p.m uh 307 ken avenue between south second and south third street get there early doors opening at 7 30 and again this is tomorrow people tuesday, November 7th at Villain in Brooklyn. And I don't think there could be a more fitting title than Villain. Than Villain. To describe your team.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Absolutely not. No, no, no. First of all. I have villains on my team. It's true. Multiple people have characterized your team as the team of villains. You are wearing red. you are wearing red you are wearing red um and potentially that will be um sort of that might be a winning stratagem is that you guys
Starting point is 00:03:12 will be so aggressive so malicious so so um invective you have you will all have such invective to spew at my team of do-gooders. Have you heard from your teammates? Are they strategizing? I've certainly heard from my team, and they told me that we shouldn't worry at all. I've heard about wardrobe choices for my team. I've heard about wardrobe choices. Do you fucking know what Greta Teitelman's gonna wear? No, you don't.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Well, guess what? Elise Morales approached me today and said she picked out something real fucking cute. Is it? And also, she told me that she's not worried at all. Is it a short sleeve electric blue versace why would you give it away i guess that's i'm not saying you undermine your own team here in this moment it's so funny it's so funny that you think that i'm undermining it's
Starting point is 00:03:55 so funny it's so hilarious okay you do well first of all let's just say that this is going to be a bracketed format of i don't think so honeys. Yes. And they're just going to go at it. And so here's how the night is going to play out. We're not going to give too much away. But first round with all of our competitors is going to be about people. They have to take to task people, whether or not they're celebrities, a sort of a group of people that does a specific thing that gets on their nerves.
Starting point is 00:04:26 The category is people, and that is open to interpretation. So we've asked all 18 of our competitors to come in and prepare something that would fit under the umbrella of people. So that's round one. The victors of those rounds will move on to round two, and the category is? I'm so sorry. The that's round one. The victors of those rounds will move on to round two and the category is...
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'm so sorry. The Little Things. Yes. The Little Things. Am I saying that right? Yeah. Okay. It's the Little Things. It's like those little ticks and tacks. The Little Things. And again, very wide umbrella. Yep. And then there's going to be a third round based on those winners and that's going to be user's
Starting point is 00:05:02 choice. So they've come prepared with several I Don't Think So Honeys. Very few of them will get to do all three of them because listen, this is a competition and that's going to be users choice so they've come prepared with several i don't think so honeys very few of them will get to do all three of them because listen this is a competition it's going to get fucking down to the wire it's going to get down to the people are going to be cut there's going to be tears shed they're going to be tears shed but that's the business baby that's the business that's the culture that this show if nothing else is a crash course for the biz and i gotta say and you were you were saying there couldn't be a more appropriate venue name than Villain. There couldn't be a more appropriate night for this to fall on. On what else but election night.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Election night. 2017. The night decisions get made. The night decisions get made about warring sides. Yeah. And this is it. Oh my god. Now, this won't be a democracy.
Starting point is 00:05:43 No. No, no, no. No, no, no. But it will be judged by a blue ribbon panel. A blue ribbon panel. You could say it's an oligarchy of judges. We have the amazing Joel Kim Booster. Joel Kim Booster, whose Model Minority CD is out now.
Starting point is 00:05:58 The CD is out. The CD. We call it a CD. We call it an album. Well, you know, I call it a CD. It's no longer a compact disc. I guess you're... Well, I'm sure you could get it as a compact disc.
Starting point is 00:06:07 No, I don't think so, honey. You don't think it's available in that format? No, because it's printing costs. Have you ever thought of that? I don't know. All I care about is supporting my friend. Okay. I don't care how I do it.
Starting point is 00:06:18 If I have to pay a little bit more, that's more money in Joel's pocket. Tell everyone about our second judge. Our second judge is Michelle Collins who I would pay the printing costs hundreds of dollars I'd pay. Hundreds of dollars?
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah. And then you would distribute the albums yourself, the physical hard copies yourself? If it was more money in her pocket.
Starting point is 00:06:37 No, I'm not pandering to judges. I feel like that's what you're doing. And meanwhile, I've taken on- I don't need to do that. I've been victimized
Starting point is 00:06:43 by the judges aggressively. Well, just one in particular which is joel and joel has come for my team and i've mentioned this before he looked at the roster when it first was released and he said a lot of heavy hitters on matt's team someone's feeling confident that someone being me he assumed that my team would not have the fire in their bellies to win this and take a victory home for Team Bowen. This is real weak sauce what you're doing right now. I'm not being weak sauce. You're trying to come in as a victim.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I'm not coming in as a victim. I've been victimized. It has been inflicted upon me. Okay, fine. Take that mantle. So this is what the majority of this bonus episode is going to be. We're going to go through the first round matchups for all 18 comedians on our teams. We're going to give a little background. We're going to give backgrounds. We're going to go through the first round matchups for all 18 comedians on our teams. We're going to give a little background.
Starting point is 00:07:27 We're going to give backgrounds. We're going to go through their histories. Why were they chosen? Why were they chosen? What are, this is going to be, what would you say this is? Sports center style? I said sports center style episode
Starting point is 00:07:38 where we go through all these matchups and talk strategy, talk how they've succeeded in the past. Talk shit. Talk shit. Talk shit. And I'm ready to start doing that right now. Let's get into round one. Okay, so this round one is titled
Starting point is 00:07:52 The Dark Versus The Light. And we have on team Matt, Pat Regan. And we have on team Bowen, Dylan Maron. Now, Bowen, talk to me a little bit about the contestant you've chosen, the culture race that you've chosen, Dylan Maron. Sure. So before I do that, let me just walk through historically what he's done on record on the podcast for I Don't Think So Honey. Sure.
Starting point is 00:08:11 When he was on his committed episode, his dedicated episode, he I Don't Think So Honeyed, quote, Lady Gaga, where is your performance of white allyship for Black Lives Matter. And for the live show for the first installment we did, he, I don't think so, honey, casting Laura Dern as Shailene Woodley and Reese Witherspoon's adversary in Big Little Lies when she played their mothers in Wild and The Fault in Our Stars, not respectively, but you know, Fault in Our Stars for Shailene, Wild for Reese Witherspoon. So took to task two wildly different things on the spectrum. One was something that was, you know, a very sobering attack on a role model, on a moral authority in the pop star community and the pop star sort of pantheon. And then the other was clearly, you know, a nice, more lighthearted attack at casting in Hollywood. I have problems with both of these. OK, well, before we get into that, I have immense issues. I just want to say that that range is very impressive. It's exactly what
Starting point is 00:09:09 I'm looking for on my team. I mean, he certainly was using a range of vocal styles. I mean, everyone can hear him absolutely fucking scream and shout because some people feel that they need to do that. I don't think so, Honey Live. He was absolutely screaming and shouting. It was really unseemly. On the record, on his episode. He was very quiet. And I'm saying that I want that range. Sure, you know what? I guess you don't know what you're going to get. Are you going to get Dylan Maron at a 10 or a fucking 1?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Well, if he's going to go for fucking blood, then he's going to be at a 10, I assume. Well, I hope he certainly comes with something a little bit better than Lady Gaga, where is your performance of white allyship for Black Lives Matter? Because you know what? She is now on the record big time for Black Lives Matter. I have to say, this was too early to attack her for something like this. No, it came at just the right time because I had even sort of rebutted with, oh, her song, Angel Down, is about Trayvon Martin.
Starting point is 00:10:02 And I'm with you there. But he expected even more he wants something very literal very overt something that isn't necessarily coded in that way in the way that she did for born this way yeah i guess so so i think that's absolutely fair and you can bet and guarantee that he will be at a 10 screaming his fucking dulcet vocal i'm sure he will you know i got he has a voice for podcasts. He knows how to use his instrument. God bless him.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I also take issue with this casting Laura Dern as Shane Lee Woodley and Reese Witherspoon's adversary in Big Little Lies when she played their mothers in Wild and the Fault in Our Stars. So what are we saying here? There's a world where we don't cast Laura Dern in Big Little Lies? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Or we cast her as something different? Because I'm down with Laura Dern.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Of course we all are. This feels like an attack on Laura and Renata, which I don't sit, does not sit well with me. You are deliberately, you're being willfully obtuse. I don't know if I am. Because what he is doing is he is taking to task casting, casting just the way that women are wronged in casting in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I don't know. With age. I think there's nothing wrong with Laura Dern being cast, by the way, in a flashback in Wild as Reese Witherspoon's mother. It was a flashback. Reese Witherspoon played
Starting point is 00:11:13 her young version of herself, which was in her early 20s, and Laura Dern was appropriate for that part, so do your research, Dylan. And then she earned an Oscar nomination for that. And so, I don't't know i feel like this just
Starting point is 00:11:26 doesn't check out for me he's attacking the larger problem the overarching problem which he's very good at doing because he has to look at things with a keen observational eye wouldn't you say yeah that's good that you can repeat that from what you said before my thing i'm not repeating anything i'm saying all new words sweetie okay well so let's talk about pat pat let's talk about pat here i'll give you the background on Pat. Pat, of course, the Lost Culture Races Icon Award winner. He's been on both I Don't Think So Honey lives. I mean, he's an iconic part of the show.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Of course, he was on our show, and he did the iconic, which earned him the title. He did the iconic I Don't Think So Honey people who shame me about posting too much on social or about ever being on my phone ever. That was iconic. It was so iconic that it was animated by Lulu Krauss in Giphy form. And then we have him on our first I Don't Think So Honey where he accepted the title of Las Coteras' Icon Award.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Restaurants who cover their outlets so you can't charge your phone, incredibly on and then we had the iconic on the last last culture he says i don't think so honey alive he said i don't think so honey these young girls which i will grant you is iconic find a problem with my find a problem with my man let's go down the list shall we let's go down the list shall we one people who shame me about posting too much on social or about ever being on your phone ever. I mean, that's just, that's the opposite of just, I mean, you know, clearly he has the range to make it succinct or wordy. That is something that is just, that's going to be his Achilles heel. He's just going to tumble and stumble on his own words. And he's not going to be able to cogently communicate.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Wow, you attack his diction. I'm not attacking his diction. I'm attacking his communication, his way to concisely communicate an idea, which he's not doing in this first example. So there's that. Number two, restaurants who cover their outlets
Starting point is 00:13:13 so you can't charge your phone. This is fake news. This is not something that is, this is a thought that we've all had. This is not like an, oh, aha. We've had it, but we haven't expressed it,
Starting point is 00:13:23 and that's what makes it a beautiful idea. We've expressed it countless times now haven't expressed it. And that's what makes it a beautiful item. We've expressed it countless times. Who is out there saying, who's out there? Talking about restaurants and coffee shops with no outlets is the new complaining about airplane food. It is hackneyed, well-trod territory. And Pat, I expect that from you. You are disgusting inside and out. And so third, these young girls, I mean.
Starting point is 00:13:42 You cannot. It's almost, you can't poke holes in it almost, but almost because these young girls referring to gay men, young gay men is, you know, toying a little bit too much with gender. Oh, I don't like you. And so I don't know if that's, you know, going to sit well with the audience
Starting point is 00:14:01 who is going to be very well read, very well educated. And, you know, I And I worry for Pat. I worry for Pat. I don't know. I don't worry about him at all. I think he's the Last Culture Isis Icon Award winner. I think that he has been described on this show as being someone who is one of the most underrated comedians
Starting point is 00:14:17 out there in New York, if not the universe and the world. And I'd say... For the record, that person did not extrapolate that far. I would give the edge to Pat um no that's not fair and you would give the edge to dylan absolutely so it seems like we're we're at a draw we're at a we're at an impasse here here we go let's move on to the second matchup which is entitled lifestyle queens now team out we have on team matt we have elise morales and i just want to mention, during New York Comedy Festival, she also has the show Roast of Your 15-Year-Old Self,
Starting point is 00:14:50 which is one of the best shows, so look out for that. Now, Elyse Morales was an early guest of Las Cotterias. We did an entirely Harry Potter episode, and she did an I Don't Think So, Honey that went with that episode. She did that Pottermore weighs Hufflepuff more than other houses. Which, can we clarify, what does that mean? It means that when you are on Pottermore and you go to take the test to get into a house,
Starting point is 00:15:14 it's weighted towards Hufflepuff. So more of the answers end up in Hufflepuff. Yes, and she was, I don't think so, honeying that, which is, for me, very academic. Very academic. Very genre-specific, and it was very successful. Sure. I listened to the episode today.
Starting point is 00:15:27 We were gasping and gagging. And then she did her second I Don't Think So Honey, which was truly amazing and clinched her spot in this show for me. I never forgot this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Was people who still care about Kim Kardashian's sex tape and you need to go back and listen to this. I Don't Think So Honey, to me it is well-researched. It is funny. It is incisive.
Starting point is 00:15:49 It is revealing. And it is shaming of people who are wrong out there in culture. And that is what I don't think so, honey, should do. I am very confident. So how should we do this? Should I rebut or should I say? Go ahead and tell me what's wrong. So I will grant you that both of these were fantastic, I don't think so, honeys.
Starting point is 00:16:07 But the same problem lies in, this problem applies to both of these, which is her areas of expertise are a little too narrow, a little too specific for my taste. This is unbelievable. Of course we know Elise is the authority on Harry Potter. We know Elise is the authority on the Kardash. We know Elise is the authority on the
Starting point is 00:16:25 Kardashians, but what is she going to talk about outside of those two things? You doubt that she has expertise in other areas. I really do. You know, Elise is a genius at branding her own topics of her topics, but
Starting point is 00:16:41 I'm really worried that she won't really have that much else to draw from. That's unbelievable to me. And I would like to add, re-Kim Kardashian and shaming people who still care
Starting point is 00:16:51 about her sex tape, I mean, why should we, why should we not care? It's what put Kim Kardashian on the map. It's what's, it was the seed crystal
Starting point is 00:16:59 for her amazing empire. So I don't know why I don't think I would love to keep talking about Kim Kardashian's sex tape. The issue is not people who care about Kim Kardashian sex tape it was people who have a negative opinion on Kim based on the sex tape but we need because she said she was merely a girl
Starting point is 00:17:14 with a fat ass and even fatter dreams and that to me honey is a classic joke sure I mean um a classic joke or um something that puts a little bit too much focus on the beauty standard around our assets. You are unbelievable. So, you know, I'm a little offended and worried about Elise, so there's that. Well, she told me that she picked out a red outfit, which will slay, and she is not worried about your team member. Go ahead and describe what this person's all about. Greta Teitelman. Now, she is someone who knows her frame of references so, so clearly. I have to say, this I Don't Think So Honey that she did came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:17:53 She did I Don't Think So Honey at the second live show, I Don't Think So Honey, French Manicures as Pedicures. Yes. She was able to roll out so many good zingers. Your foot isn't handing me my menu at Nobu. That was good. That's pretty fucking iconic. If you can whittle it down to one line, I think that's the sign.
Starting point is 00:18:14 That's the mark of an amazing I don't think so, honey. And that's why I picked Greta. She's able to distill something so clearly. Look, her I don't think so, honey, the way that we wrote this out. This is sort of like Matt did a very good job of really getting these written down. Her I don't think so, honey. The way that we wrote this out, this is sort of like, Matt did a very good job of really getting these written down. Her I don't think so, honey. Four words. French medicures as pedicures.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's it. That's all she needed to say. You know what I will say? I'm gonna give it to her. She did an amazing I don't think so, honey. She represented herself very well. My concern? All style, no substance.
Starting point is 00:18:42 Already I've heard her say, talk all about the outfit she's going to wear as if that's going to carry her through. Guess what, bitch? You just talked about your, about Elise's outfit. That's going to be in addition to. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:18:54 She came up to you and was like, my outfit's going to be fierce. And then we looked down at what her I don't think so honey was and it's French manicures as pedicures. This is someone who cares a little bit too much about the aesthetics and not enough about the content, honey.
Starting point is 00:19:04 That's her point of view. You know what know what bitch i certainly hope she can spread her wings i hope she surprises us because i think the judges are going to be watching and i think the judges are going to be saying huh are we going to allow ourselves to get fucked over by someone who is not very versatile is she going to be working on representing our brand i don't know i want something that's not based in fashion i want something that's not based in fashion. I want something that's not based in skin deep. I want depth from Greta. And I don't know if we're going to get that. You are trivializing these industries of beauty and skin care.
Starting point is 00:19:33 And frankly, that's not feminist of you. That's unbelievable to call me unfeminist on this podcast. I support women. I just need them to deliver more than just this. Why are you demanding more of women? That's awful. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that.
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Starting point is 00:20:13 The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are,
Starting point is 00:20:57 there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest
Starting point is 00:21:28 and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part had me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. body image, and years of work.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob gronkowski guess what folks we're teammates again and we're gonna welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes i'm a dude you're a dude and dudes on dudes is our brand new show we're gonna highlight players peers guys that we played against legends from the past and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them and we'll get into the types of dudes what kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards.
Starting point is 00:22:47 We got freaks. Or dudes dude. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude?
Starting point is 00:23:03 We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's move on to our third matchup, shall we? Yes. And this is a doozy of a matchup. Yes,
Starting point is 00:23:20 this matchup is boys we used to be in love with who are now our co-hosts on other shows. Now, as an added addendum. Let's give the backstories here. Let's give the backstories. So you go first. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:30 So representing for my team is Dave Mazzoni. The first time I ever saw Dave, we were freshmen in college. I could see right through him. I said, that's a closeted boy from a small suburban town. In Rhode Island. Because I see myself in him. I am, what what in love with him uh proceeded to get obsessed with him we did a show together um where i pined for him all summer
Starting point is 00:23:53 long eventually i think it was like nine months after we did the show we did end up like becoming better friends and you know you put two people, things happen. I believe we were in maybe a five or six week relationship, which he ended. Yeah. And fully broke my heart there. And, you know, looking back, we also made the grave, I think, at the time mistake, but maybe now it's totally fine and funny. But we moved in together as roommates right after this ended. And he was like, because we can do that, right? And in an effort to prove how cool I was, I like yeah absolutely i'm totally fine with that we moved in together
Starting point is 00:24:29 those were hard times but everything has made us so strong and dave is now one of my sisters he's one of our sisters he's our orlando sister orlando sister and that's why i feel so confident with him going out there to represent Team Matt because he knows Team Matt. Team Matt has sucked his dick. So I feel like – and Team Matt's dick has been in Dave's mouth. And so that's why I feel very confident that Dave is going to bring it home. He hates when I talk about that. That's fine. So that's the back story? And I will now say that i don't think so honey's that he's done well i feel
Starting point is 00:25:09 like let's let's let's okay so let's go back and forth on the backstory okay fine um uh and so i'll give my background and then i have a little bit of a rebuttal i want i want to sort of point at something that you just talked about fine um but i'll do that after this so sam taggart is on my team um sam taggart was a mutual friend uh when i first met him uh with our very good friend matt and i's very good friend henry melcher um and uh sam knew henry uh through chicago and sam was visiting new york one day when he was but a senior at uva and he was recently out of the closet still very masked still very performatively straight and was wearing flannel and was just this clean-cut all-american quote-unquote guy and Henry just very lightly just sort of you know considered the possibility of setting us up and I
Starting point is 00:26:01 was like oh well I don't know let's let me, let me see, let me meet this guy first. And then at the time, Henry and I were roommates and I walk up to my roommate, my first apartment in New York on Avenue A. And, um, when I first saw Sam Taggart, I was like, yeah, I'm in love. And, um, you know, proceeded to pine for him, uh, for a couple of years until he finally moved to New York city after he graduated um and you know struck up a friendship where I sort of kept my feelings for him repressed and under wraps for a while and really had to reckon with that for a long time which I think really um propelled my emotional maturity but anyway um and then one moment that I share with Sam is that I spent New Year's with him in Chicago, New Year's of 2013. And we drove from Chicago back to New York with a pickup truck full of his stuff and his dog Gizmo on my lap just nipping at me, just biting at me.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It was a beautiful relationship. But you know what? It was one of those experiences. We listened to Fleetwood Mac, Tusk. We talked about uh great music um i really felt a connection with him and then when he dropped me off i knew i knew that he was he was someone that i would be connected with for life now i finally confessed my feelings for him um and you know he did not return those feelings and i was devastated and so there was a we we both decided it was a good idea to, for a few months, not talk to each other. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:30 And then we finally did revisit the friendship. What grew out of that was a beautiful, creative collaboration that has created successful, successful franchises such as Live on Broadgate. Yeah, same here with me and as live on broadcast. Yeah. Same here with me and like, Oh, and what else? Um, live on broadcast,
Starting point is 00:27:50 like homo high. Don't fucking challenge me. What else? An upcoming project that is, um, has yet to be announced, but that will be revolutionary. Um,
Starting point is 00:27:57 so I just think Sam and I for, I bet it'll be, it'll feel just like the rest for me, for me coming out of this really emotionally overwrought place of unrequited love to um you know successful relationships i meet with sam almost weekly um to talk about our ideas and how to execute them and produce with me and dave yeah um you know that's that just shows you the growth and i just want to say i actually spoke to dave you know just today well sure i mean that's that's your cadence. Very close with him. That's your cadence.
Starting point is 00:28:36 But I would like to point out that you deciding to move in with him as a display of you being cool just is a blatant display of your poor judgment. And I think that is something the judges should consider. Why would they consider that I have poor judgment? I think they'll consider, wow, what a long journey it's been clearly they they still have a collaborative thrilling relationship that he's allowed to be on this that reverberated and they've been through much more difficult stuff together than you and sam we have been through the ringer and you and sam what you have a mere crush on here's here you didn't go through a relationship what was the marriage what was the what was the ringer matt that i had to bear the brunt of some of this too in popular rehearsals where you two would bicker like fucking children yeah that was definitely much harder for you than
Starting point is 00:29:14 it was for me mine sam's past has not trickled down and reverberated out in a negative way towards our other collaborators the same way that you're in dave you would be nowhere if it wasn't for me how dare you how dare you play king maker with me bitch you don't bite the hand now listen dave has done some incredible i don't think so honeys in the past and i am so proud to have him on my team dave's first i don't Think So Honey on just the third episode of Las Culturistas was people who say they don't vote this is someone with a civic mind he said on the episode it is there are
Starting point is 00:29:54 people in other countries who would die for the opportunity to participate in government and he represented that and it was so beautiful and then his next I Don't Think So Honey was people who say Britney Spears sucks now. So that's someone who not only has a mind for government, but a mind for propping up women. And he wants to see women supported.
Starting point is 00:30:17 And he said to the whole crowd, Britney Spears raised you. And we, the children, had forgotten that. And he reminded us all, I dare you to say something negative about these I don't think so honeys. Okay, totally. Good, I don't think so honeys. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Don't really have anything critical to say. Good. Really just took the form, understood it, went with it, hit it hard, communicated all these things effectively. I will say, you know, both of these are about people. You know, what is the little thing that he's going to talk about?
Starting point is 00:30:49 It's actually the first assignment. It's the first assignment, but you know, he'll make it through the first round, potentially. I'm saying there's a 50-50 chance, but you know, what's he going to come up with for the second round if he makes it that far with the little things? Or what's his user's choice that isn't going to sound redundant? That's i'm worried about for dave so you know we'll
Starting point is 00:31:08 see and um i hope i i hope that we um i hope that he makes it far enough along for him to see that talking about a lack of versatility it actually segues perfectly into sam so why don't you tell us what sam has done with his i don't think So Honey. So Sam has really made history at Las Culturistas. His I Don't Think So Honey on his episode was I Don't Think So Honey, Las Culturistas podcast, not talking about the new Instagram stories.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Now, this was the day of Instagram had launched their stories feature. One, that's historic. Two, you're already explaining. Say the other one and then qualify. Oh, no, no, no. Let me just finish on this first one. The second historic thing about this
Starting point is 00:31:51 I Don't Think So Honey was that he was the first person in Las Culturistas history to I Don't Think So Honey the hosts. Okay. Huge, huge, huge. And he did it very well with energy, with fire,
Starting point is 00:32:02 with biting wit. Okay. Now the second I Don't Think So Honey was via Troll Bull, one of the first early adopters, with fire, with biting wit. Now the second, I don't think so. Honey was via troll bull. One of the first early adopters also historic of the troll bull of drawing from the troll bull was Kelly Clarkson. And he, I remember that one.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Cause there was like a lot of, there wasn't a lot of words. Well, no, he was just taking something that he didn't really have expertise with. And he still did not let that affect his performance. He still came with such emotion, with such fire and you know what? That
Starting point is 00:32:29 to me is a star. I don't think so, honey. Culture icon. Here's what I'll say. He's going to take home the money. If you think you're going to come onto the Lost Culture Recess podcast and not only disrespect me but disrespect Kelly, you're not going to get very far. What does that have to do with his performance? I'm just saying that you karmically you make a choice when you when you decide to come for kelly
Starting point is 00:32:50 and to come for me you you make a choice and karma will come back around and karmically he is on the show as i've selected him yeah i mean that's your choice baby i think it's very self-hating of you to choose someone who has come for you in the past for your choices i think it's disgusting that you would not support kelly in this moment where she needs to be supported meaning of life is out right now and i just hope that uh you know what it's not even a hope it's i know that um the heroes will prevail here and someone who's been on the side of pop stars and wants them to succeed will definitely take it over someone who came in and trashed someone else so okay no you're right you're right you're right um we have diametrically opposed contestants in this matchup.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Absolutely. And we will see which side karma favors. We will. How about that? Let's move on. We have the Titans of Intellect. Titans of Intellect. Now, on my team, we have Amanda Duarte.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Just talk about a moral authority here. She is able to take what is happening in the moment, process it, digest it and give you a clear cogent opinion on something okay that you didn't even know you wanted to hear sure sometimes you know i'm not saying everyone agrees with her that everyone should sort of um you know follow to the letter what she says but most of the time she's right and most of the time she is able to um you know really fucking slay an argument and her most of the time okay that's not what i meant that's not what i meant for it to sound like i'm saying 99 of the time now i heard i don't think so honey at the second live show was the movie blackfish via the troll bowl
Starting point is 00:34:21 and she was able to pull out these amazing, amazing facts and just really just take an academic approach, Socratic approach to taking down the movie Blackfish. Her facts were, don't make me hungry for sushi. Yeah, that's a fact. That was her fact? You would say that's not a fact? I would say that is some hokum.
Starting point is 00:34:43 That's not hokum. How dare you reduce Amanda Duarte's words to hokum. She couldn't find a way to feasibly attack the movie Blackfish, so she decided to take a comedic route and say it made me happy. You know what? This show is not comedy. This show is about truth to power. What made the Blackfish a not good movie you could have said not enough um
Starting point is 00:35:07 saw not enough uh input from the movie from of in the movie from uh sea world's perspective sure i mean do we expect her it's not very feminist feminist of you this is crazy it's not very feminist of you and this might be a preview of what the collective team strategy will be is to sort of cut you off, just hit you low with this fact, frankly, that Matt Rodgers is not a feminist. It's insane to say I'm not a feminist when there's someone on my team in this very matchup, actually, who's one of the hosts of the podcast Missandry with Marsha Belsky and my teammate Ray Sonny,
Starting point is 00:35:49 who's representing for Team Matt. Her I Don't Think So Honey's in the past are, when she was on our show, Twitter people who ain't got a blue check coming for her. Absolutely. And her I Don't Think So Honey live was Elizabeth Moss via the Troll Bowl. Now, this was iconic. Iconic. She hit everything.
Starting point is 00:36:08 When I put Elizabeth Moss in that Troll Bowl. There's a lot to hit. And she hit everything. She hit everything you could clock Elizabeth Moss. She even went as far as to say Top of the Lake was boring, which it is. You know, and that's like in the deeper, like, things you could hit about Elizabeth Moss. Obviously she got Scientology. Obviously, you know, all these things.
Starting point is 00:36:34 But to say Top of the Lake was boring, that's truly cultural commentary. Sure, sure, sure. And I don't think that, I don't know, I don't see a threat here. You know, um, this is the,
Starting point is 00:36:47 the threat is that Amanda will succeed with flying colors. You are at a loss. Every round because she has demonstrated versatility. She knows how to talk about every which topic. Now she certainly is, has demonstrated hokum how dare you she is hokum you cannot hokum hokum not throw the word hokum at someone with the intellectual prowess of amanda duarte how dare you i have hokum i'm not i'm not attacking ray i'm not attacking ray yeah well maybe that's your problem it's because you have not chosen wisely. You see my team is impenetrable.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Absolutely not. I see Ray devouring Amanda. And this is the narrative that I want to point out is that, you know, the rosters went out. People were like, oh, advantage Matt, advantage Matt. But then slowly these matchups came out. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wasn't going into a victim narrative there as the matchups were released people started to say the collective din was oh wait this is more of a toss-up than i
Starting point is 00:37:53 thought it would be and i think that's absolutely what we're seeing so you know don't don't don't don't count on don't count your you know your wins and your advantages just yet matt that's all let's move on to our next battle matchup which which is former Planet Hollywood front of house staff. Now, these are two gentlemen who used to work the front of house at Planet Hollywood Times Square, and my, have they grown from that point. They've grown from that point, and they've grown from a specific incident
Starting point is 00:38:17 where I believe Tim Murray did tell us this privately off the record that when they did work at Planet Hollywood together, they didn't really interface or interact that much, Michael Hartney and Tim Murray. But one time, I believe it was a chef or someone in the kitchen had done some shitty thing to Tim. Well, it was a dispute in the kitchen,
Starting point is 00:38:36 like you have, where Tim, I think, asked for something. Yes. And the chef acted like it was a much bigger deal than it was. And Michael Hartney jumped in and just told him to give him the fucking thing because it wasn't a big deal. So, you know what?
Starting point is 00:38:49 You got quite a quite a titan on your team there. Michael Hartney is on your team. And, you know, he's he's a force to be reckoned with. Someone who is able to just step up and be that. That right, that corrective force in the world. I understand. Look, I'm not even going the world. I understand. Look, I'm not even going to front. I also wanted Michael for my team.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I lobbied hard for him. He ended up on your team. It's certainly a concern of mine that he isn't on my team because he certainly shut it down with his I Don't Think So Honeys in the past. He's been absolutely amazing. What has he done? First time was on the first live show, I Don't Think So Hone in the past. I mean, he's been absolutely amazing. What has he done? First time was on the first live show, I Don't Think So Honey. They famously closed the whole show.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Closed the show. Until Sunita Mani came up from the raffle. But he closed the whole show with, I Don't Think So Honey, people who say their favorite movie of 1995 was The Usual Suspects. Topical. And that Facebook, well, stop.
Starting point is 00:39:40 It was topical. Now, how dare you? Because it was topical. It's topical right now in this moment, I'm saying. Of course, Kevin Spacey. But it was topical. He was talking about that Facebook game where people were posting years that they've been living. He chose to go a topical route on that evening, yes.
Starting point is 00:39:55 And he made a great Kevin Spacey joke. If I wanted to hear Kevin Spacey lie for two hours, I'd ask him about the women he's fucked. Right. I mean, what a great set-up punchline. Right there, just, he is able... He's a stunning, stunning I Don't Think So Hunnier. A stunning humorist. And I just want to say, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:15 he is someone who has strong opinions about a lot of things. Right. And I will say, he is almost always right about that. And what was his other I Don't Think So Honey? I'm sorry, his other I Don't think so, honey? I'm sorry. His other I don't think so, honey, during his episode was people who come for Moana.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And here is my problem. We have a very film-centric mind here. Okay. And I don't know. I guess the judges, again, are they going to see a lack of versatility on your team? Are we, again, are we getting caught up? Again, that's been the argument that I've leveled against your team all this time. What do you mean, again, that you're dealing with that?
Starting point is 00:40:52 You're dealing with people who obviously deal only in the world of fashion, who people only deal in the world of film. Harry Potter, Kim Kardashian, people. Who only deal in the world of attacking us and the people that we love, which is Sam. I'm just saying, Michael, you know what? If you're going to come to I Don't Think So So Honey, and if you say a fucking I Don't Think So Honey about a movie or anything in the world of cinema, don't think that's not going to register, okay?
Starting point is 00:41:14 Because we see you, bitch. We see you. We see you in your limited scope. Okay, well then, if you're going to talk about any myopic sort of areas of expertise, why don't you talk about your your i'm proud to my teammate is tim murray now his first i don't think so honey and i don't think so honey live was harry potter bullies he's never read it he's not gonna read it stop bullying him he's not gonna do it that's a shaming and shaming shaming yep well stop shaming him and he won't
Starting point is 00:41:43 shame you and his second one which is on our episode, was people who slide into my DMs to ask about my friend. Now tell me what's comparable between those two. We had two stunning, I don't think so, honeys, that made us think about our behavior. Yeah. And they were cultural and they, both of these, I don't think so, honeys,
Starting point is 00:42:00 created a shift in the way people behaved. Absolutely not. Where's that shift? What would you say that shift has been? I i would say that people when they heard him on las culturistas talk about don't fucking contact him and ask about his friends and his dms i bet he's got no messages since since that i just think it it's he made a social point he's coming from this very unrelatable place one with one with the har the Harry Potter sort of the anti-Harry Potter sentiment. But two, implying that people are sliding into his DMs to ask about his friend or bringing that up.
Starting point is 00:42:35 It would imply that he, A, has a hot friend, which not everybody does. And B. We all have a hot friend. And B, it implies that people are DMing him and I don't get that many DMs and I don't relate to that it's alienating to me I think that that makes you unusual
Starting point is 00:42:52 because I think most of us get DMs whether or not we get five ten or maybe even one or two a day we all get DMs we all know what DMing is all about you can't say that and I think that we can relate to him on a Harry Potter level too because some of us just like maybe we're not into it.
Starting point is 00:43:09 It's this cultural, this idea that we all have to be part of the same culture. He represents so much. There's so much brevity. I just want to say. And levity. Just to bring up that anecdote again about that Planet Hollywood incident in the kitchen. Phew. Tim Murray owes Michael Hartney his career. Wow, this is. So just think about that Planet Hollywood incident in the kitchen. Tim Murray owes Michael Harney his career.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Wow, this is... So just think about that. I think we'll see what happens. Okay, next matchup. We have someone who's been coming. They're both going to come very hard. They're both going to come very hard. That's going to be one to watch.
Starting point is 00:43:36 That's going to be very much one to watch. These are all... You know what? First of all, just as a point of view... I'm getting excited. As a point of unity, I think you and I have done a very good job with these matchups.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Amanda Duarte did, and this is why I have done a very good job with these matchups. Amanda Duarte did, and this is why I respect, just to go back to Amanda really quickly. She asked if there were any male-female matchups or any non-same, like homosexual, you know, same-gender matchups. I said, there's no male-female matchups, but there is, and we'll get to this later,
Starting point is 00:44:00 there is a male non-binary matchup, but I don't know if that's the same thing that Amanda is talking about. I think to think that... And she sort of, you know, she said that was very interesting. And I think I admire one of my team members who is able to question my decision making. I like that. I want that. Well, I think it's actually trash that she questioned the decision making because it's a gotcha moment. It's wanting something to be... She said it was a private conversation. No, it's a gotcha moment. It's wanting something to be a... She said it was a private conversation.
Starting point is 00:44:26 No, it's a gotcha moment. And I think that she is asking gotcha questions and I also think that to assume that we would just make these pairings based on gender is very small minded. Obviously these are some very specific and carefully curated matchups
Starting point is 00:44:41 and I personally feel insulted whether or not it's you that feels insulted by your teammate, that'll be something. Okay. But again, just things you're putting out into the karmic atmosphere that are just really questionable. And again,
Starting point is 00:44:52 I really question your team. This is all coming from karmic scholar, Matt Rogers. Okay. Now let's go to the next matchup. Sure. Let's do that. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Let's move on. This is Southern Bells. Now we have someone from a little bit of texas and someone from a little bit of georgia here we go now um representing the great state of texas where the hair is big and the sticks are juicy we have chrissyackelford. Now, this is, to me, one of my very favorite people on my team. I can't wait for this. Now, I say this knowing full well that her first I Don't Think So Honey on our show was, quote, Matt fucking Rogers. Now, what an interesting, curious thing for you to bring up my self-loathing but go ahead now
Starting point is 00:45:46 it's it's different though okay because she came for me because she wants me to be the best version of myself and she came for me because i was interrupting you during your i don't think so honey absolutely and she knows she loves this show so much that she wants to see it fair and square and and to its fullest potential and she wanted to give you the space. And also she wanted you to have the space to humiliate yourself. You know what I mean? We don't need to hear my voice to hear the garbage that you spew. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:15 She said, no, no, no, Matt. Don't interrupt him while he talks. Let him drown himself. Okay. So I see a really smart game player there. And she knows how to get to you. And also, you know, the most difficult troll bowl topic in that first I Don't Think So Honey was Julie Andrews.
Starting point is 00:46:32 And she pulled Julie Andrews, and she was able to make a compelling argument against international icon Julie Andrews. And if that's not the markings of a great champion of I Don't Think So Honey, this is someone who could win this whole thing. Now, I just want to say that it's very curious that you bring up this stratagem of this gambit of, you know, she is going to just let the other side, the other person destroy themselves. And, you know, I identify with that. I feel like your team and your whole the conversation that you've directed at this point has been very anti me, anti Bowen.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Team Bowen is bad. Bowen's going to suffer. But blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I champion my team. And so, you know, it's sort of like the Democratic Party. Like what was their message during the election other than no Trump? Like what like what were they going to do for the American people? It's very reminiscent of that. And it's interesting that you bring up Chrissy's strategy in this way, where it's like, I might just let you destroy yourselves because your platform has no elective stand-in other than no Bowen. So, you know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:47:39 That's not true. I think I have a well-rounded team. I think Chrissy's going to bring it home. And I absolutely think she's going to destroy whoever this is on your team. This is Shalewa Sharp. I've had multiple people come up to me and say, her, I don't think so, honey, at this live show,
Starting point is 00:47:54 which was white people who clap on the one and the three instead of the two and the four, was one of the most incisive. It was very good. Funny. one of the most incisive, funny. It was very good. So it came from such a good, real place. I mean, only Shalewa could have done this. It was very unique.
Starting point is 00:48:17 She's a musical person. She has witnessed this firsthand. She saw a problem. She attacked it. It was a great I Don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey heard around the world. People are still coming up to me and saying Shalewa, that's the icon. She's incredibly worthy
Starting point is 00:48:33 of being here. In fact, when I mentioned to Chrissy that she was going to be competing against Shalewa, I did see some reservation on Chrissy's face. But I think that will drive her. And I think that Shalai will be buried in the sand you know Georgia is really uh this new they're calling it yollywood I'm sorry not to hollywood yollywood it's where stars are born it's where stars are born it's where all
Starting point is 00:48:56 the industry is going to end up in at some point because there are tax breaks for film production there well so we're gonna all you know, we're people working in this industry might end up in Atlanta at some point to shoot a TV show or a movie. And, you know, we would want to stay in Atlanta's good graces and maybe give Shalewa a well-deserved win. I'll just say,
Starting point is 00:49:18 I mean, I'm not, we don't need to give her any win. In fact, I think what we're going to see bowen is uh live on stage tomorrow night we're gonna see the night the lights went out in georgia how dare you yeah how dare you and look speaking of if we're gonna talk about states if i hear one more fucking time from chrissy shackleford about blue bonnets the dixie chicks fun barbecue places in Austin, 6th Avenue in Austin, UT Austin, whatever the fuck about Texas.
Starting point is 00:49:50 I'm going to fucking lose my mind. She's proud of where she comes from. No, she's in your face about where she comes from. Like my opponent, Matt Rodgers, who always has to bring up at every fucking moment that he's from Long Island. Because I survived it. No, I've survived Canada, Australia, Colorado. Oh, no, the oppressive places that are Canada and Australia.
Starting point is 00:50:08 The oppressive places for a white male. Get that free health care away from me. Long Island. You're absolutely disgusting. I'm an immigrant, and I've come so far. There he is playing the victim again.
Starting point is 00:50:18 So, I refuse to be a victim. I'm going to quote Toni Morrison. I'm not the victim. I refuse to be one. And that is absolutely my narrative. I share I'm going to quote Toni Morrison. I'm not the victim. I refuse to be one. And that is absolutely my narrative. I share so much in common with Toni Morrison. Let's discuss these next beloved pair. Now, this is technically our only non-homogendered pairing.
Starting point is 00:50:37 This is Gabe Gonzalez versus Peter Smith. Now, Matt, this is Art Queers. Yes, Art Queers. My contestant is Gabe Gonzalez who I'm proud to have on my team and let me tell you something it was a bilingual I don't think so honey that was historic
Starting point is 00:50:52 and he did it on baseball via the troll bowl it was incredible he tackled being a young boy being expected in fact culturally expected to watch baseball. There was this. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Was so layered. Yes, it was. It was international. It was an international. I don't think so, honey. And he attacked America's pastime. And Las Colas is a very American show. It.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yes, it is. And to take it that far, I think this was a real challenge and he hit a home run a grand slam if i might uh use some baseball terms he rounded all four bases and he slid home for the for the win he was the houston astro he was the houston astro now um you're right he was able to pull from his own personal experience in such an artful way he talked about his uh upbringing as in a puerto rican household what baseball sort of meant in that household i will say um that he you know he might have he might have alienated some people you reach you had to reach.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Not even in the cultural... Why would that alienate? I don't watch baseball. I don't give a shit about baseball. He didn't pick the topic. It was the troll ball, honey. Yeah, but if he's gonna... He had to make a cohesive argument against whatever we picked and he was able to slay it. No, he didn't make it
Starting point is 00:52:20 relatable to me. He talked about the only good thing about baseball being seen in the guy's butt. That's not relatable to me. What? He talked about the only good thing about baseball being seen in the guy's butt. That's not relatable to you? No, because the only relatable thing about baseball is getting to go to the games and eating the food. So the fact that he didn't mention that to you
Starting point is 00:52:38 makes it down the drain? Absolutely, down the drain. Down the fucking drain. You are a wench. I want to talk about my team member in this matchup, Peter Smith. Another disgusting wench. No, no, Peter has lended their talents so many times.
Starting point is 00:52:55 They've helped us out in the past. With their Annette Bening impression that still has people talking with their own I Don't Think So Honeys both at the live show and on their episode. Now this is Peter's I Don't Think So Honeys, both at the live show and on their episode. Now this is Peter's I Don't Think So Honeys were as follows. And I think Peter,
Starting point is 00:53:10 this is historic. Peter drew the first troll bowl on the episode. For a short period of time, we were giving our guests the option of drawing from the troll bowl during their recorded episode. And I gave them a hard one, I did. And you gave them a hard one
Starting point is 00:53:22 and they pulled the hardworking middle class. I think they nailed it on the head. And then at the live show guests who come into my home, I give them a can of pop and they leave it. I mean, that's just a full story right there. That's, that's a baby shoes.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Never worn for sale. Baby shoes. Never worn. That's a full story right there. I see a red flag here though. Why? They use the word pop and that's wrong. that's wrong. That's a full story right there. I see a red flag here, though. Why? They used the word pop. And that's wrong.
Starting point is 00:53:47 No. That's wrong. That's part of the storytelling. It tells you that they're from the Midwest. I don't need to hear that. Why not? Because it doesn't... Then I don't need to hear that Gabe was in a Puerto Rican family.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Listen, him saying the word pop... Them. Them saying the word pop, you are a fucking traitor not a feminist not transphobic matt rodgers them not saying soda took me out of it okay all right so you're gonna level the same argument against me that i leveled against gabe that's fine that's it really took me out of it okay so this is another draw another draw. We're seven for seven draws. So here are our last two. Yeah, I give the edge to Gabe, and you give the edge to Peter. There you go.
Starting point is 00:54:30 This next controversial matchup, and I couldn't be more thrilled that it's controversial. How dare you. The Facebook shaker uppers. Facebook shaker uppers. We have Marsha Belsky for Team Matt, Nicole Silverberg for Team Bowen. Now this. I have a hero on my team.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Let's talk about the backstory here. Yes. You think you have a hero? I have a hero on my team. No, you have a martyr on your team. Yeah, that's fine. That's what you have. That's Joan of Arc.
Starting point is 00:54:54 It's not the same as a hero. I believe that they are one and the same. Okay, so a little bit of backstory. Nicole Silverberg posted this extensive, exhaustive, and in an amazing way, this list of things that men can do to support women just in everyday ways, but specifically in ways that deal with sexual assault. Just talking about believing women, talking about supporting women in the right ways, talking about not taking their space in these conversations, which is something that we've, anyone, male or female, but mostly male,
Starting point is 00:55:26 can learn. And she posted this amazing educational, not pedantic article, pedantic article, that was eventually published on The Guardian. Nicole subsequently received death and rape threats on Twitter and Facebook, on all the platforms. And matt's teammate marcia sort of came in uh very nobly and uh uh as a sign of support and solidarity said men are scum which got her banned from facebook for 30 days now this is a horrible story on all just every part of the story is just very very very um you know depressing and and demoralizing in some way they both went through a lot they both went through a lot and i think nicole rightfully when this matchup was announced um sort of she called it fucked she called it fucked which you know what we'll give it to her
Starting point is 00:56:16 it's a fucked matchup that but that's what i love okay here we go and this i'm not the one saying this this is matt you know what i think that, it's better that they go up against each other. Why? Because we could see, because they know in their, they know that this will cause them both to go 150% because they look at each other and they have utmost respect for each other. You don't think the other would throw the competition for the other person?
Starting point is 00:56:47 Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I think that this, I looked at the list and I saw the two of them and I said they must go up against each other because look, what they do and what they stand for is 150%.
Starting point is 00:57:02 You couldn't say anything about them. These are two incredibly necessary people. I think it's so fucked up. Facebook banning Marsha, and they have since lifted the ban because I think they've seen the error of their ways. By the way, Mark Zuckerberg is a fucking maniac. What a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:57:19 You know what I found out? He owns 98% of the wealth in the millennial generation. He owns almost everything. That's disgusting. He's just a fucking piece of shit. And Facebook is crazy for not banning these fucking monsters, real monsters who pose real threats to people. And Twitter.
Starting point is 00:57:35 And Twitter. And they ban Marsha. And Nicole has to fucking go through all this garbage just for spreading what is necessary in the world so you know what pit them against each other i only care about a good i don't think so honey i'm this is gonna be this will what they've been through they're gonna bring to that stage and they're gonna bring the fucking heat yeah this is you know what this one this one really i feel this will be intense i feel such a mix yes exactly i feel such a mix. Yes, exactly. I feel such a mix of emotions.
Starting point is 00:58:05 I'm excited. I'm scared. I'm happy. I'm terrified. All these things. I just repeat. Let's talk about what they've done. So my Marsha has done.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I don't think so. Honey, freedom of speech. I'm telling you, this is someone who is not afraid. She has no fear to take on the First Amendment of our Bill of Rights. And you know what? Knowing it's going to be recorded and played nationwide for millions. Listen to Imposterity. And this is someone who, I'm telling you, I see nothing getting in Marsha's way.
Starting point is 00:58:38 Okay. Now for Nicole, she has demonstrated such versatility. I think I have the versatile queens on her episode of las culturistas she i don't think so honeyed quote you showed me the movie joy on an airplane and um i believe um one of her uh little sound bites in that one was um i would rather um the plane go down with the president on it and at the the time this, this was pre-inauguration. This was president Obama. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And she was so willing to, you know, sacrifice the life of one of our best presidents. And just so, just to drive one of the best, one of the best. And, um,
Starting point is 00:59:16 you know, she is not afraid to throw her political alignments aside to make a point. Um, and then her, uh, second, I don't think so. Honey,
Starting point is 00:59:23 was that the live show? Second live show. She was the first trouble draw of that show. Jennifer Garner second, I don't think so, honey, was at the live show, second live show, she was the first Troll Bull draw of that show, Jennifer Garner via Troll Bull. I believe she used the phrase Capital One Bitch. You know,
Starting point is 00:59:33 I think she did really well with that Jennifer Garner because then she shared afterwards when we spoke to her afterwards at the intermission, she said that she actually loves Jennifer Garner. And the fact that she's able
Starting point is 00:59:44 to turn that part of her brain off, her, you know, let me just go easy because I love Jennifer Garner. No, she's going to go for blood. No, she came hard. She, in fact, even came for her marriage. She came for her marriage. And that, to me, presents a problem. Okay. Because if you're such a feminist, why are you trying to tear down another woman for her marriage?
Starting point is 00:59:59 And also, why are you attacking a movie with a female lead? I think Nicole Silverberg is a wolf in sheep's clothing. I think that she is branded as a feminist and someone who shakes Facebook up in a good way. But I see through it, and I see someone who wants to end the careers of young actresses who embody spirit, grit, and grace. I won't question Marsha's feminist um alignments her her beliefs
Starting point is 01:00:29 but i will just ask the listener right now go back about 45 seconds um and just listen to the part where matt rodgers refers to marcia as my marcia why the possessive why the possessive he's possessed is marcia she doesn't have a problem is it. Is Marsha chattel to Matt? Okay, well, let's think about that. Marsha should fly with the other eagles. Matt is not a feminist. Okay, and this is- It's unbelievable that you are such trash.
Starting point is 01:00:55 You have a shitty ass. Your mom never taught you how to wipe your ass good. It's funny. I feel like- You have an ass that has shit on it. I've been hearing this insult handed down. I believe Tim Murray on social media called, said I have a shitty ass.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I said you had a shitty ass, and I'm happy that he picked it up. Well, Tim picked it up, and the fact that Matt's team members have to resort to borrowed language is quite tragic. They can't come up with their own. You smell like poop because there's so much poop.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Let's go to the last. I don't know how to wipe your ass. Let's go to the last matchup. This is Diva Deluxe. This is Diva Deluxe. Diva Deluxe. I looked over at Hot Engineer Will and he was just like raising his eyebrows at that. Hot Engineer Will.
Starting point is 01:01:40 At that run. I think Hot Engineer Will is exhausted. Yeah, well, you know what? He's getting paid. Okay. So this is Diva Deluxe. And this is a huge one. run i think hot engineer will is exhausted yeah well you know what he's getting paid okay so this is diva deluxe and this is a huge one this is the this will end round one this will end round one and you know this is this is diva deluxe you know what i mean like this is diva deluxe these are
Starting point is 01:01:57 deluxe divas and this is as big as it gets and the reason these two are paired together is because they both created moments in a second i don't Think So Honey Live that stopped the world, world stopped. Carry on. And it took a minute, but it did carry on. But they were shocking moments. Shocking. Let's go through them. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:15 What did Michelle do? On my team is Michelle Buteau. Now, this to me is an iconic, iconic comedian who I'm so thrilled and gagged she's doing this show. Her first I Don't Think So Honey, I Don't Think So Honey Live, I mean, we were justged she's doing this show. Yes. Her first I Don't Think So Honey at I Don't Think So Honey Live. I mean, we were just honored for her that she even was there. Yes.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And she came out and shut down Act One. She went last. She said, people who don't fuck with the song Despacito. And by the end of that song, by the end of that
Starting point is 01:02:41 I Don't Think So Honey, You love Despacito. I fucked with Despacito. Yeah. And I was who she was talking to because I love i fucked with despacito and i was who she was talking to because i didn't fuck with despacito and i have michelle buteau to thank um i'm gonna cross party lines here and i have michelle buteau to thank for um being the first person to ever say the words or the name cardi b yeah and my presence like that was the first time
Starting point is 01:02:59 i ever heard about cardi b yeah this is someone who sets the tone of culture absolutely and her second i don't think so honey when she was uh invited to be a guest on our show was if you're invited to my house and you don't bring shit yeah i don't think so honey really um setting the tone for etiquette in people's homes uh henceforth sure i mean you know both of these are about behavioral things and for her to sort of want to be corrective about behavior is dangerous and unwieldy and you know she wants to tell me how to live my life that's that's not gonna be that's not gonna fly when you've been living it incorrectly okay so my um oh i'm so excited for my teammate uh my team member for this this is annie donnelly now she what she did at this live show was let's just
Starting point is 01:03:43 walk through this beat by beat she comes on stage with a giant fucking hat of her own the hat was big sun hat black sun hat bold pink lip rude to come into our house and not wear our hat but anyway stone cold look on her face like she was too fucking good to be there and we were gagged from the second she walked on stage with that look on her face we were like oh my god diva deluxe diva deluxe and then she walks on stage stacks the our own culturistas hat on her own hat she knew what she was doing she came prepared she came correct and she i her i don't think so honey was matt rogers and bowen yang now people have definitely come come for before, and I don't think so many that we know. But this was above and beyond explosive. And I will say, before we get into this, I will reference something that she did on social media.
Starting point is 01:04:32 She challenged herself, and she posted a status a few months ago. Like the status and I'll read your ass like a fucking drag queen honey and she got hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of likes read almost all those people to filth god i mean she's a dangerous person dangerous person and it's definitely it's definitely going to be very um very interesting to watch and see what she does i just wonder have we seen the best of what she can offer? We've seen her. I just wonder, can it get any better or bigger
Starting point is 01:05:08 than coming from the host of the podcast and roasting us as a pair? Absolutely. As individuals and for what we stand for. I don't know. I think she might have
Starting point is 01:05:15 blown her fucking load with her huge, you know, penis. Her Facebook post about reading people like Draftford, just hundreds of comments deep. That was the Benghazi hearing of her.
Starting point is 01:05:25 If Annie is Hillary, that was her Benghazi hearing, just the stamina, just putting up with people's bullshit, being like, hurry up on your reads. Why aren't your reads coming in? She took her time. She was cool as a cucumber the whole time,
Starting point is 01:05:41 delivered on these reads, with Joel Kimboosters, we'll bring up as an example. She said, and I quote, the whole time delivered on these i don't think so on these reads like call it with joltkin boosters we'll bring up as an example she said and i quote fat feminization more like microdermabrasion get your skin fixed you ugly slut or something like that holy fucking shit i mean come on you're i am i am just girding my loins for what you will say i'm not saying that it's not going to be a fucking fight, but you know what? That's why it's Diva Deluxe. That's why it's Diva Deluxe.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And I just want to quote a couple more things from her. Oh my God. Just to take it back to her. I don't think so, honey. Um, she said, Matt Rogers,
Starting point is 01:06:14 can, can we hang out? Can we be friends? Cause it seems like all your friends get famous except for you. That hurt. And then she said to me, and Bowen Yang sponsored by spoke, no sponsored by warby parker
Starting point is 01:06:25 honey it's you want to get fucked it's called 1-800-CONTACTS 1-800 and then she said she emphatically added a period to that whole whole piece by saying 1-800-CONTACTS hunty go back and listen to the audio because the audience is fucking, they go fucking crazy. Almost as much as they were screaming from Michelle Buteau. Almost as much. You have to listen to the audience during Annie Donnelly's. I don't think so, honey. The audience is just wailing and screaming and going, ah!
Starting point is 01:06:56 This battle pairing is going to shut it down. It's going to shut it down. It's going to shut it down, and that will end round one, and then there is a little bit of a twist. There's some twists up our sleeve. So Matt and Bowen, the two of us, we each have a steal of someone who's been eliminated from the other team who then will compete on our team in round two. Yes. So then we have a redemption, which is one of us just taking back one of our own eliminated team members to fight at our side once again so truly if they lose the first round it's not over now they can still go on to win again this is
Starting point is 01:07:32 going to be very much a gag this will be judges joel kim booster michelle collins and a surprise third mystery guest judge which will be revealed which will be revealed now um we can't wait we hope this little rundown has given you all the context you need this is consider this a primer for uh going into tuesday night november 7th yes tomorrow tomorrow culture and i don't think so any death match 8 30 p.m 7 30 p.m doors at villain 307 kent avenue yes buy tickets now because you don't want to get to the door and have to pay a little bit more, honey. A little bit more, honey. Again, it's a part of New York Comedy Festival.
Starting point is 01:08:10 We're so excited. So excited. It's going to be a bloodbath, but also a love fest. A love fest and a bloodbath, absolutely. That's the beautiful thing about all of this. This is all for love, all out of love. What we did for love, this show, bitch.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Yes. Now, Matt, any closing thoughts? Fuck you. Fuck you. That's it. Bye. Bye. Forever. what we did for love this show bitch yes now Matt any closing thoughts uh fuck you fuck you that's it bye forever dog this has been a forever dog production executive produced by Brett Boehm
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