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Episode Date: April 6, 2018

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Hi, guys. We're not starting off with our standard ding-dong Las Culturistas calling because we are here to show you a little preview of what our Patreon episodes are like. So for $5 a month, you can donate on our patreon page patreon.com slash lost culture restus and um we're gonna give you some great specific content yes and i'm matt rogers and i'm the other host and when i speak on this podcast about rupaul's drag race it resonates yes absolutely absolutely i don't know why i went into that accent um but guys we are talking about rupaul's drag race season 10 all season long in addition to our vulture recaps this is um really i would

say slightly better than our recaps because we're having real-time conversations we're realizing things as we're talking about them wouldn't you say yeah i would say as the as matt rogers the other host of the podcast who does uh the the Patreon as well, that I think that it's really very good. Yes. So thank you so much, Matt, for that beautiful, beautiful, for putting beautiful words to that. And we hope to see you on Patreon. So enjoy this episode. This is us recapping RuPaul's Drag Race Season 10, Episode 3.

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that recaps RuPaul's Drag Race. We're so sorry we've missed a couple of episodes, but we are so happy to be joining you guys again on Patreon. Thanks again for donating. And and to be fair it was like the beginning of the season we didn't miss much totally totally we all had time to digest what's happening and speaking of what's happening i'm really really into this season already oh i love this season

yeah i think this is a great season i think we have amazing queens not a lot of filler queens happening here sure i mean mean, this is competitive fish. If the first queen out is already providing the most entertaining meme of the year so far, that's huge. Miss Manji. Miss Manji.

I don't know if I like it as much as everyone else seems to. I'm just admiring how long it's been. It's been a full week and a half, almost two weeks since she's been eliminated. And this thing is still going. It's pretty crazy. It makes me feel like she'll have a life after the show.

Well, that's the thing. It's like, I don't think she's coming back. Well, yeah. I mean, like friend of the show, Josh Sharp is like really trying to put out like the secret into the world of actualizing that she's going to come back by saying she's going to be a bring back.

She's going to be a bring back. But like, if you saw her watch a pact with Michelle, like Michelle, like you can see the world of actualizing that she's going to come back by saying she's going to be a bring back. She's going to be a bring back. But like, if you saw her watch a packing with Michelle, like Michelle, like you can see the look in Michelle's eyes when she realizes like, Oh wow, you're so funny and charming.

Yeah. Oh, I wish you could have. She literally says, Oh, I wish you could have stayed longer. And so like, that's telling you right there that like Michelle, like they've shot the whole season.

Like Vanjie looks completely different. She's gotten like facial hair and a different hair color. Like this is post season. They're shooting this. And it's clear that she does not make a return. Unless Michelle Visage is the actress of the year. Of the century, honey. And she would have to be. I think Michelle is a very talented person.

I think Michelle is incredibly talented, and I love her as a judge. And anyone that doesn't like Michelle Visage, I think you really need to look within. Look, and I'm not... I don't mean to name drop, but I'm going to name drop a little bit i wrote i wrote for logo some like fun ad copy that like she bob the drag queen and cassan from fire island um performed and like i was on set for just a few moments but like michelle was just reading them cue cards that prompt her like a fucking pro she's she's an amazing did she seem to enjoy the words she did she was she

was giggling at a few jokes and then she like punched up some jokes on set she didn't know that i was like she didn't know who i was i was just kind of standing to the side but she was like she was like how about this and and the director was like yeah that's great and i was like yeah that is better like she is a total pro there you go there you go honey you think she would win drag race i think so i think honestly like i know michelle visage i know like people say that like you can't have the show without rue hosting but like in some alternate reality like she would be an amazing host of the show but you know what though rue is the host and rue really doesn't judge michelle judges yeah it matters what michelle says rue doesn't say shit rue makes decisions based on whatever one around him says and mostly michelle

the only time and yeah even like i'm trying to think of the last like critical moment like critical room moment that she's like really critiqued someone and all i can think of is like aja during the studio 54 challenge and all stars 3, where Rue was like, you know, the 70s weren't that long ago, which we've established to be false. But that was even going off of, that was piggybacking off of something Michelle said. Yeah. I mean, even this, even this year, she said about Aquaria, it's very exciting. She's very exciting. Her drag is very future forward.

And that was like something that you never hear. Yeah. Like you never hear Rue go out of her way to be like, except with Yua Hamasaki, Dilly Departed. She did say a couple of times, she could really take a cue from the pageant girls about learning how to take a critique. Absolutely. Yeah.

I mean, that was probably like, Yua was fine and like, you know, she didn't, you know, obviously she like made some huge missteps in this challenge, but like her biggest problem was that she talked back all the time. Yeah it was weird yeah i don't know if that's an edit necessarily it could be could be but like some of the stuff was like it's like okay but the judges were remarking on it yeah right and every i think ross this week was like she always has a clap back carson carson said that oh yeah ross wasn't there um and then michelle confirmed she's like it's always a clapback yeah um i love nico totorello's suit oh that was fun that was a really good suit the grid the white the white grid yeah i was like oh my god where do you think you got that oh uh top shop

probably something really fancy yeah fancy boy um so you uh do we have any good feelings about her do we feel kind of whatever i feel like she could have done more well we i mean you and i like had a blast making fun of how truly like insane balls to the wall insane her interviews have been um before the show uh i don't know she like she was giving you some cool like as, Asian-inspired looks that were, that, like, are distinct from other Asian queens on the show. She was giving you very elevated, like, dowager empress fish. And, like, that was cool. Like, as a Chinese person, I was like, that is really cool to see, actually.

Like, we haven't had a fully Chinese queen, which is different, like, of course, from, like, Kim Chi, a Korean queen. References are different. The aesthetics are different. Obviously, he was a very different queen from kimchi i thought it was cool to see some like cheap how motifs but like i didn't think she had what it took to stay any longer yeah i don't know i think probably i'm looking at this list now especially this year it's such a competitive year like i was saying like calorie calorie even like in a weaker season, she would have done better.

Totally. But like, you can say that like comparatively she is like, she was positioned as like, you know, the Sasha bell or Magnolia Crawford of her season. She didn't come with the materials to win. You know what I mean?

Like that was her best drag outfit. Right. Like was that body suit, which maybe somewhere else is, is like best drag. But meanwhile, she's very talented. best drag but meanwhile she's very talented yeah no she's good yeah she's good she's certainly good queen i mean it's just it's just like we were saying it's tough to look at the list and say that's a competitive one right you know and actually you know maybe her being an albuquerque based queen is different like she has different resources than all these la and new york and

chicago based queens even the southern queens i feel like might be more like they can pick up a rhinestone thing like from the store because all all the women are doing it or something i don't know i'm talking out of my ass yeah but um but yeah i mean it's a strong roster it's you know it's so strong and actually like this the strong queens are kind of surprising me like i would never have thought that cameron was capable of that runway me too like i just obviously i don't know a lot about her because i really wrote her off but then that runway was good that runway was like it reminded me of um whenever trinity k bonet would struggle in the challenges but then hit the runway in something yeah fierce yeah yeah yeah like that's what like that bird

runway the feathers runway for cameron was like pretty awesome yeah it was good and even like for a second i was like oh well that's too similar to eureka's but eureka was giving you goth but cameron was giving you villain she was giving you like literal vulture yes like fucking charlie's in snow and the huntsman yeah no she was giving you vulture and eureka was giving you kind of like yeah can't be raven like haunted house yeah goth moment right which i also loved i love the eyes i loved i loved i thought i kind of think eureka had the best look of the night i think that eureka had the best look of the night. I think that Eureka had the best look of the night, yes. I just think that Cameron was not far behind. Right.

No, I agree. Yeah. And they were very similar. Most of the runway looks were great. I thought this was a strong runway. Cameron was lucky because she was literally saved by it, although I did know that Mayhem was going to be in the bottom. Sure.

Because I didn't care for her dress. Yeah. But her eyes were great, and her makeup looked great, whatever. She's an amazing queen. It's just were great and her makeup looked great, whatever. Like, she's an amazing queen. It's just like, the choices in this episode were so weird.

Like, the choice to just totally fade into the back of the commercial and not say anything or do anything. Right, right,

right. Here's a thought, like, because you and I are both kind of disappointed with the best drag runway from last week. I just think it's,

yeah, some of them just like obviously didn't sure the assignment but i'm saying like like it's weird that like all their best drag looks like when there's no hard theme applied that like they kind of stumble and it's actually not probably not their best yeah but when there's this theme of like feathers i thought so many of the looks this week were amazing it's like oh that would have been your best drag had it not been for this theme right yeah i mean asia o'hara's outfit like this week i loved i loved i loved it's so funny i really loved it and i loved it so much more than what she did for best drag yes because to me asia o'hara

i've been not super on board with her the first few weeks because it feels so gaudy to me. It's so pageant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Her best drag was so much. The color. Right. The makeup. I don't know.

The hair. It was just so passionate to me. The fact that it was a ballroom dress. It looked like someone who was doing their talent in a pageant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was just not into it. But now, in this episode, I feel like she got creative. And then when you see her looks outside of the show, like on Instagram and like what she wore in like the conversation with Sasha Velour, like she's got cool stuff.

It's just like her wigs are great. Yeah. Like, I don't know. I just from what she's presented in the competition besides this episode, when you put that up against what she's presented outside of the show, I'm like, it feels like we're not seeing your best, best, best. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I do like her as of this episode.

Got it. I'm still not totally sold. Like, the dress. I was, dress was great. I was telling you, I was frustrated that, like, the judges were, like, going gaga over this Tweety Bird reference.

They were like, the reference, the reference. But it's like, okay, well, Monique gave you a Cookie Monster thing, and you guys like didn't bat a fucking eye yeah i mean my thing um i'm just like griping about their no no i totally agree with you i mean it was weird it's weird how much monique is just getting kind of brushed aside this episode she got a lot of focus but i don't know like i think that monique is definitely one of the better ones yeah she's so great to watch and it's weird to see her getting kind of an iffy edit yeah where you're not really sure where this is gonna go like did the show really think we were gonna go for like oh monique is really pushy in the director thing. I was like, I don't know if she's pushy. I just think she's helping.

She's directing alongside Michelle and Carson because she's the team leader. And like, she came up with the stuff. Sure. I mean, I think some of the moments can read as micromanaging. Yeah. Like when,

um, like when mayhem was up, I don't know. Mayhem was lost. Mayhem was lost. And like Monique was trying to give her like something to to use but like it just looks like it's such an easy thing to be like oh look pointing at fucking monique she's being real micromanaging yeah it's really weird it's

weird it's weird also like i feel like they're just as easily was a narrative of like monique saying to camera mayhem is doing nothing because like the whole episode mayhem was and also that would have served the narrative better too because she ends up in the bottom two i just think they didn't get that like sort of like talking head for mayhem maybe that came came forward about why she was being so quiet i feel like we have to kind of guess that it was because she got chosen late exactly but she was shut down from the beginning And you didn't really understand why she was catatonic. Yeah, I think it would have been nice to hear about that and for them to push that narrative

instead of this Monique is bossy narrative. Totally. Because really all they were trying to do, and even Asia said, Monique is really effectively running her team when they were putting their makeup on. And so for them to then turn it into like, Monique's being too much,

I thought was weird. I was like, yeah, but if you're not going to do anything, you're going to end up in the bottom two. And then so Mayhem did. Good thing she fucking killed the lip sync. Oh, yeah. Although like there was a second where like until the air guitar became too much on Yuhua, like I was like, oh, like this isn't a total like opening shit thing.

I thought it was pretty done deal from the beginning when she lifted her head up and started the whole song. I mean, she was... And then when she started plucking feathers up, I was like, oh! Her eyes were perfect for it, too. Her eyes were so good for it. And what a great song, Celebrity Skin.

It was a great song. It was a great week for guest judges. I thought Nico was very engaged. Yes. And I thought Courtney Love gave us great sound bites. Literally, she goes, she was meh. I mean, I don't know. I love Courtney Love's voice now.

She's just like, so sleepy, so funny. We did see the resurrection of Eureka this week. Yes, which is great. She was so funny in the challenge. One of the best runways we've seen. I love that runway. Yeah. And she was funny in the challenge.

Yeah, girl, we know. That is, like, Michelle was right. Like, the fact that she could deliver that line and make it funny in the challenge yeah girl we know that is like michelle was right like that the fact that you could deliver that line and make it funny and memorable is great yeah and cracker was great crackers like really really really coasting in a lot of like goodwill good work yeah cracker was not uh killing it on the runway though yeah you don't think i just thought it could have been exciting and it wasn't exciting. I like literally don't remember what she even wore. She had, she did the whole green blue thing.

It was a dedication to her best friend who passed away. Remember that she's like a dark wig on. She was doing her voiceover during the runway was like, I'm not doing a character this week, but the story behind this look is that the day after my best friend passed away, a green and blue bird like landed on my window like made a nest on my window and i took that and this is a tribute to them yeah i guess the

look itself just isn't standing out to me sure and and this is the thing i was thinking about this today like i don't buy crackers whole self-branding thing of like i'm crazy it's like no you're actually really polished and you always have you're always very put together like don't say you're crazy if you're not crazy i think the barbie on bath salts thing is like a is like a misbrand because it's like that's what i'm saying not you're not out of control you're actually really smart and measured and she's like yeah bob's my drag mother oh she goes funny runs in the family but like there's some other comment she made where she was like yeah i'm crazy but it's like no you're it's fine that you're not crazy because you're good

unless there's something we don't know i mean we've seen i mean we've seen her live like she's she's not crazy i mean like there's not that's not the narrative and no i don't know bottom two for that maybe oh my god miss cracker liked my instagram of my instagram of me um with my easter ham that i made this weekend she did she liked it and i was like does she follow you i think she follows you too really i think she follows us because remember we saw her one night and like like we both went up on stage or something and like her her publicist i know that it was like her manager her manager was like you guys hitting us up yeah and it was like oh you and we were like yeah we run this sketch group or something or like we were like oh yeah that was back then yeah

and this was like years ago i remember the first time we saw cracker i never forgot her yeah and then she and then yeah her manager was like put us in touch and probably ran her social media at the time yeah and like followed us on twitter and instagram so um well we love cracker yeah cracker she kind of like was in the back of the narrative this episode um but speaking of stepping to the front of the narrative i think think we should probably talk about Dusty. Dusty. Oh my God. And I know that was like...

It was, I mean, yeah, like I've been through this, I've been through this kind of crazy week with my parents where it was just like, just old wounds sort of reopened around me being gay and like we haven't really made progress,

but it's okay. this isn't to vilify them it's just like we there's still a lot of middle ground that we have to cover in terms of like understanding where the other person's the other side is coming from but and i like i am very much in the zone of like wow it's very specifically because they're immigrants and it's part of the reason why but i'm like god most white families um you know already have this leg up where it's like culturally it's like there's there's more common ground to go off of and like this is so unique to me and like blah blah blah blah blah i was being very solipsistic about it but then to see dusty like talk about this whole thing

was so emotional and i was like oh this is obviously not exactly what i went through but like quite similar quite similar i went to a fucking conversion therapist and like my parents were like like my dad yeah the way i came out the first time was like my parents found something on the computer and like as soon as duchess said that i was like oh my god i was like already on board i was already like wow i already relate to this so hard. And then to hear like the parents' reaction and then the conversion therapy and that fucking pastor, I was like, Jesus.

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So, so well rendered and so well described and communicated and i and it like what i got so emotional and i texted you as like i was like holy shit dusty this week yeah and you were like don't say anything else i was like okay but just so like you know ticks back i was surprised by what i saw yeah i i thought it was like gonna be like a basic emotional breakthrough like in terms her drag or something, but it was that. It was that, and I was like... Because I saw when Blair was talking about how close she is with her mom.

Which is great, which is beautiful. Yeah, and they cut to Dusty. Yeah. They cut to Dusty, who was looking over, and that piqued his interest. But I love that Dusty's takeaway wasn't bitterness. It was, I'm really happy to see people like Blair have supportive families.

It wasn't like, well, Blair's advantage because she has a supportive family. It's like, no, this actually is good and it makes me happy. And like that, because I oftentimes will come away with like a bitterness where I see very like beautifully open supportive families and I'm like, God damn, I don't have that.

I never will. But to see Dusty like walk away from that and be like that's really beautiful was like really powerful for me so yeah i and you know i've read dusty for filth on the pod but like but like now like i kind i mean like i don't have to be the biggest fan of her drag but like as a person i'm like oh thank you for like showing me this yeah thank you for this i'm grateful that the show is able to show me this side of her. I mean, seconds later, the runway was like a five. Sure.

I thought everyone, I thought everyone was great this runway. That's just me. I was. I don't know. There was just like too much. Like whatever was hanging down from Dusty's arms. I was like, it just seems too much to me. But it was good in the challenge.

She was doing like a poison ivy fish. She had like red hair. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. I liked it. I was into it. It was different it wasn't like it was a lot to watch it again it was a lot of like whites and blacks and like your standard colors but like i i appreciate when people like went all out with like the colors of the feathers yeah or went all in with the concept totally

totally um i actually really kind of liked uh the vix's runway look this time. It was good. I liked the way like she was working on the runway. Totally. I liked, I pretty much liked it from head to toe. I thought it was a fully executed concept and like sort of an A to C on the theme. You know what I mean? Totally.

Yeah. Yeah. The theme was feathers, but you know, she didn't come out there and do a predictable feathered look like someone say Blair did. Exactly. You know,

she was, she's praised her on the runway, but I think that has a lot to do with her face. Because... She looked beautiful in her wig. Because her dress was not all that. Like, if I'm looking at the Vixen's dress and Blair's dress, I think the Vixen's dress was more impressive, actually.

Sure. It was very well-structured in architecture. Let's talk about the Vixen, since we're talking about her. Listen, the Vixen has been she was mixing it up and it's by her own volition and like she she's very deliberately doing and behaving in this way and it's not good or bad it's just very like just the way she is just the way she is she's confrontational she's confrontational but like it gets to the point where it's caustic like yeah, she's, like, getting the fear in Aquaria's eyes out. She's, like, really trying to freak Aquaria out.

Yeah, no, she's trying to intimidate her, for sure. It's a bullying. And she knows it, and she cops to it in this episode. Yes. And she even says repeatedly, like, well, I can get to you, so I'm going to. To the point where Aquaria leaves the room. And then the other queens tell her like maybe this is not necessary right and she's like no actually it is and it's just it's just a world view that is like

okay bitch if that's what you want i mean you can choose to take the ribbing that all the queens give each other and somebody said something about your wig that you borrowed for your best drag if you want to take that yeah and really attack based on that critique you can do it that way but you could also take it as just like yeah girl like you didn't have your own wig for your best drag look like it's you're worthy of being read for it exactly and it's like okay well if you if you if you want to dish out all this like aggro like learn to take it dude like you know what's funny too is it's just like aquaria was like you didn't use your own wig for best drag and then vixen goes well actually i did have my own wig for it and then she was like so what and then i wanted to be like what do you mean so what then the answer is then why didn't you wear that way use your own fucking wig and then monique was like oh the vixen just shut aquaria up i was like that's

not what i saw it's like oh the vixen's being like painted into this corner where she doesn't really know what to say i mean it looked like someone like reading appropriately and then someone respond responding back like really well no you're you're wrong like it was just like it was like i don't know you know and like it wasn't it's not anger it's just like it's just like it's reactionary to the point where it's like unnecessary it's like um it's like what it's like what about ism you know it's like when people are like it's it's what about ism which is like reminiscent of like soviet russia and trump where it's like you criticize someone and they're like what about this thing yeah and like that is literally the definition of what about ism i'm not saying

vixen's really doing that but she's just like that's not true like she's completely discounting what you're saying with no with nothing to back it up yeah there there wasn't i think the reason why it seemed like aquaria was shut up is because like there was nothing to say back right it wasn't like you know and then at a certain point it was just the vixen being like a bully being and just getting in someone's face and being like oh yeah i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna intimidate you until you leave and then she did so she got what she wanted but luckily um you know i mean look the vixen backed it up for me this week yeah like like the look the look was good and she was great in the challenge she wasn't great in the challenge but she she didn't lose the challenge you know what i mean like she didn't

have that much of a part whatever i mean but i just thought her wearing the sandwich board and being like this doomsday person was like really funny i think we can get used to seeing the vixen that's definitely i mean they're gonna they're gonna keep her around i think six more weeks at least yeah to be honest sure like i think probably like gonna her around. I think six more weeks at least. Yeah. To be honest. Sure. Like, I think probably, like, going to stay around. And I think it will end with an Aquaria. Versus the Vixen. Vixen lip sync.

Not necessarily an Aquaria Cracker one. Not Cracker. I think that's over. That's not going to stick for very long. I just think it's over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, like, I don't think people care anymore. Because now I think Cracker is going to be like, oh, people think I'm copying her. I'm going to do the opposite thing as she does every single week sure well we we can say that cracker versus aquaria was

the precursor to aquaria versus vixen yeah absolutely without the scene for that without that you didn't have the other um i just i don't know of course aquaria versus vixen like that's a tough one because it's like you you it's it's a tough one because it's like you, you, it's, it's a tough one because it could potentially become tough, like socially, you know what I mean? Like you have this like really young, like white sis sort of like attractive, like sort of probably wealthy has like a lot of means because of the

Instagram following everything. The kid, white gay kid from New York going up against this like woke protest south side of chicago someone who's more of a performance queen like comes from drag in that area like so to see those two things in conflict that's it's hard it's disappointing you know i don't i don't necessarily i'm not looking forward to that yeah well i mean i mean it's it might be worthwhile to just observe yeah as all of those things are. I mean, you wish they didn't happen, but.

Right. I also, Aquarius, look, this runway was, I thought it was a really nice, strong choice. You just never can see it winning. I know. Aquarius always like, it's always great, but it's never like. It's never like, you know,

what Eureka came out in this week. Right. I did love her best drag look that was great though that was great like the concentric nose rings was gorgeous yeah but then i was watching um i was watching uh tutor boot um or fashion photo review which they really should just call it tutor boot right um but uh they raven was like I'm so tired of the two big nose rings like apparently it's been a thing

sometimes Raven just says bullshit and I'm like shut up Raven yeah Raven like has such a chip on her shoulder like she she hates Sasha she used to hate Bob like she like is just I don't think Raven's like a great person well I don't know I guess I like her on the show but um you know all right

so who i have left here is monique monet and blair you know monique i thought she looked amazing on the runway and was good in her challenge i love i guess like i guess to be honest with you you have to kind of assess like what the team did because she was the team leader and that commercial was not good was bad so it was kind of a little bit of, she got lucky by not being judged on the runway. Sure, but it just sucks because I mean like last week was absolutely this weird hit job and now it's like,

oh, well then to have that. Yeah, let her get this week. To have that be confirmed by like, oh, she actually didn't do well this time. It's like, it sucks because it's like, oh, well those other times don't count. House guests and house visitors. Or house visitors and house guests so funny i thought it was so funny also

these huge big titties that she's doing that are like pillows what is going on with that i don't know but she seems to think that they're and the judges think it's funny so sure why not but she those are recurring breasts. Recurring breasts, honey. Recurring breasts. Okay, let's talk about Monet. So you have an interesting take. You think Monet's stock is plummeting a little bit.

Yeah, I was talking to a friend of the show, a friend of the pod, Sam Schloss, and we're both like, okay, she's coming out with the same Bob wigs. It does seem very uh repetitive she gives you the kind of short wig every time yeah short wig you know glittery like sequined rhinestone thing like two red looks in a row her best drag was red her feather look was red too i believe and and if you look back on the sponge dress like some of some of the execution, the execution was not all the way there.

Well, I like the sponge dress because I think it was interesting to watch. It's a great concept. If you're interesting, you go a long way with me, at least, when it comes to the looks. But, like, Monet, her dress this time was just not interesting.

It's not interesting. She didn't try to win. And I'm saying and the challenge too like i get that she was like leading the charge but like she she got lost by like asia by all these other people by aquaria and definitely not yuhua but you know it's like also the thing is like these people who do the voiceovers are like the narrators um they don't know how to make those exciting at all just like talk to the people talk to the people make it funny that's why it was great that blair's team didn't really have a

narrator until the very end where it's like it starts with like an anecdotal thing of like she's just walking down the street like it was a narrative until boom yeah let's do voiceovers i have to be honest i was a little surprised to see blair in the top three yeah i didn't think she was that good in the challenge. I mean, maybe her team was the best and she was the leader. And so that's why she got there. But she was just kind of like acting her part well. You know what I mean?

It wasn't like a winning performance. Totally. But she was like fun opposite Eureka and Cracker being like, oh my God, you know, like that was fun. It was definitely fun. I just thought like, that was fun. It was definitely fun. I just thought, like, I don't know. It just, it was bizarre to me to see her in the

in the tippy, tippy, tippy top. Sure. Yeah, and the dress is elegant. It's okay. But it was fine. Yeah. And then finally we have, oh no, that's Blair. That was Blair, that was it. I mean, so we have Asia O'Hara win the week. We had Mayhem and Yuha in the bottom three. Mayhem slays Yuha bottom two yuha with that lip

sync um and yeah and now where do you think we stand it's been shaken up a little bit because well truly like we thought mayhem was a front runner maybe well this is i mean like i've said this about a lot of seasons like seven especially um and even nine, but this is not a filler queen in sight because Cameron's stock rose way up for me. Yeah, it's pretty even. It's really even, and there's still like 12 queens. There's like 11 queens left. You have to think about if they're going to be eliminated

for simple things, then what is the weakness of every queen? For me, Mayhem, I think she just might not be like a superstar. She's not a performer. You know what? She's not gonna like hold your attention at a show. Yeah, to me, she's not like screaming out. She doesn't grab your attention, you know, the way that someone like,

Alyssa does or Katya does or like, you know, any of the like stars of the show. Right. Like even like people you remember, like Laganja, you know, they get your attention yeah yeah like that's what makes you a star at one of these shows and mayhem is kind of

just like good at what she does and we know where she comes from right but if you if you put detox next to mayhem yeah mayhem would fade away yeah yeah yeah um so then you've got dusty who again might just might not have the star quality but it's good but it's good i think like blair is interesting i think cameron can't act and perform and we'll get nominated get nominated get eliminated for that vixen i think is someone that like might have some like trouble later later later on like just really bringing the looks i think the looks are gonna be a something also like you get this is she super dexterous in performance like a something also like you get this is she super dexterous in performance like in terms of acting sure sure like is she gonna give you the same

thing every time i'm sure she can turn an incredible lip sync yeah but you know and then miss cracker she's pretty amazing all around monet like maybe isn't showing us what she can really do aquaria maybe performance will be an issue yeah although aquaria has been solid. She's doing good. She was great in this challenge on a performance level. And she was fun in the lip sync extravaganza on episode two. I don't think she's a bad performer. And I came into this season being like, Aquaria, oh God, she's just an Instagram queen.

She's pretty good. She's a performer. She's a solid live queen. Who do you think's out next week oh that's tough um i could see uh i mean like monique's just like skating down the middle and i'm worried for her um but i can also see honestly i mean cameron's been skating down the middle too even after this week so i don't know i'm saying it's like we have 11 11 evenly matched queens and like that's that's huge like yeah it doesn't actually whittle down to like an even field until like no we're gonna be set to see

people go yeah we are i would say right now leading the charge for probably gonna be out is probably cameron only because we saw a big weakness here which is that she's not really like a super performer in terms of acting. And she's not going to make it. She's not going to make it past the match game. I don't think, no, I don't think we'll see a snatch game. Yeah,

that's good. That's where we might not even see snatch game from some people that would kill it. Oh yeah. I hope they, I hope they do it for more people. You know what I mean? Yeah,

yeah, yeah, for sure. I think I hope they do it earlier. I hope we see it with eight people or maybe even nine. Yes. Okay. So Matt,

do you want to end, uh, uh, end with i have complicated feelings i have complicated feelings on this yes um sure okay great i can start too you start okay great here you go this is bowen yanks i have complicated feelings on this and his time starts now i have complicated feelings on when the show still goes on even when rupaul is clearly sick yeah what the hell was going on this even when RuPaul is clearly sick. What the hell was going on this week? I have complicated feelings about RuPaul not being in tip-top shape. I know that she takes care of herself very well.

She hikes every morning. She meditates for hours every single day. If RuPaul is sick, if RuPaul cannot speak, if she's suffering as she's talking, I say call off the, call off the day, you know, everyone deserves a sick day every now and then,

even Mama Rue. 30 seconds. So I have complicated feelings on the show, trying to very, um, you know, very, uh,

uh, just overtly cover up the fact that he's sick and like ADR and dubbing over his voice. 15 seconds. Um, in the mini challenge and god that main stage was really tough to watch rue was towards the end towards the end she was really withering so five rue i hope i'm sure and this was months ago but i hope you feel better and that's one minute listen um i thought it was so weird too so distracting that she was not feeling so distracted i'm actually not feeling well right now. And I said to Bowen,

oh, Rue is like acting how I feel right now. No. I'm on a lot of bad and drill people. All right, I'm ready. Okay, this is Matt Rogers's.

I don't have complicated feelings about this. His time starts now. I have complicated feelings of when they pick the teams. Yeah. Because, uh, for a show that's supposed to facilitate like positive vibes and everything and inclusion it's like why would you feature something that's so like evokes a painful memory for a lot of

people which is like being picked last i love this like honestly every time some queen gets picked last it just makes me feel like oh this is a juvenile part of the show that is only there to exacerbate drama that we don't necessarily need like project runway they do this thing where they pull um they pull like stuff out of a bag like oh the bag is here like now we know a team is going to be randomly chosen because like i don't know it's just more respectful seconds i just don't know if we need it i think we could randomly assort the teams um and you'd still be able to get the dramatic pairings that you want because you go back and produce it like you could five seconds rig it a little bit whatever but having them pick is mean and it reminds me of

a bad time so i have complicated feelings about that thank you that's one minute that was gorgeous man thank you i totally agree with you and i hadn't really thought of it this is the second week in a row they did it and i was like oh god where it's clearly affecting people's moods and mayhem i think it dictated the people's moods and mayhem. I think it dictated her whole day. And Eureka was picked last week, too. Yeah, and then it started a whole chain of events there. I don't know.

I guess that then it does get them worked up and emotional. So sure, why not? But I just feel like it's an emotional terrorism that I don't know that is necessary. Yeah, very specific to people being gay. And it really resonates with people who like probably stood around in gym class their whole life long

or pick last for being here yeah I mean like for being effeminate or being not good at sports

like that was like always like an anxious moment me me me me me me me yeah it sucks anyway I have a couple

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