Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Bottom's Choice" (w/ Patrick Rogers)

Episode Date: August 2, 2023

HAUS! Readers, it is time for you to meet a sister. Dear friend of Matt and Bowen, Patrick Rogers, joins our hosts to tackle culture and be their astral guide. Nicole Kidman's AMC ad: how much longer are we doing this? Should we ever stop? Should it reboot? It's discussed. Matt and Bowen reveal something huge about when they went to see Oppenheimer. The girls discuss Iceland's pleasures, Björk's genius, Taylor's Eras... and next era, what they want to see from Lorde, and Tina Knowles Lawson's Instagram. Also, the Renaissance World Tour was attended for the second time, and Matt, Bowen and Patrick guess what Act II of Renaissance will hold for Beyhive members. All this, attending a Spice Girls concert in the midwest dressed as Posh Spice, Victoria Beckham at large, what happens when someone Leaves The Band, RHOBH, RHONY new and old, a preview of Ubah Hassan's hot sauce taste test, Bethenny's whole deal recently, summer, "global boiling", the expensive art world and restaurant group sizes. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas.

Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. What we were saying before we got on was that I went to the movie theaters. You went to the movie theaters, but it depends on which one you went to, doesn't it? It depends on the brand. I had a worse experience because I didn't go to an AMC and see Nicole first. At what point will we say, God, there's no way that I asked

this question without sounding awful. But you know that no matter how you sound, I will understand. I know you do. I can't say that for them. Please understand me when I ask this. Have compassion. Have compassion for me. For whatever he sounds like in the next second or two, just have compassion.

And in the seconds beyond. I think... When will it not be a sort of security blanket kind of thing? Are you coming for me? I'm not coming for you. I'm coming for... Like, at some point, we're going to have to free Nicole from this. I understand.

And here's what I'm actually going to come out and say. Okay. This is actually really crazy to even go here because our guest today is actually... The Nicole Authority. One of the Nicole girls. Yes. And Naomi. Darling May. One of the things that's happening

in culture is the Nicole Kidman AMC thing. We're getting diminishing returns. The cheers are starting to get less. And I've been to the cinema and it felt like last year, like everyone was like screaming and gagging for Nicole.

And now it's kind of like, I think what we need is a 2.0 version of it. Well, first of all, there's no way the 2.0 lives up to the 1.0. I would agree. And

this is why you go out while you're on top. And I think we've like, we've lost that thread. And I, please have compassion, we've lost that thread. And please have compassion for me

as I say this. And it makes you all self-conscious to go to a regal. Here's the thing. You just notice when it's not there and to the point where I'm like, oh, is it now part of the movie going experience? Which is a testament to her star quality.

Absolutely. You know what I mean? But like, here's what I'll say I really don't want to see. I don't want to see any Nicole Kidman AMC gay Halloween costumes come October.'t want to see I don't want to see any Nicole Kidman AMC gay Halloween costumes come October

I want to see two things Barbie and Ariana Maddox at the Vanderpump reunion and the revenge dress and the revenge dress

I want to see all my gay guys trying to get into that garment which by the way is not a practical garment for a reunion because you have to sit

but she looks amazing sitting. She looked incredible. She really pulled it off, didn't she? She really did. And I want to see my Jenna Lyons is out there. Oh, that would be really good, a Jenna Lyons costume. With what she calls a landing strip.

Yeah. Not exactly what she thinks it means. No, not. But, you know. I think that we both could be Jenna Lyons. I mean, yes, both of us. You and I, we would both represent different parts of Jenna Lyons. What part would you represent?

I would be Jenna Lyons pre-Veneers. And you would be Jenna Lyons. The binary. The binary. Pre-Veneers and you would be Jenna Lyons post-nose job. Which I only say that because it's all a genetic condition. And like, I actually think this is an amazing

case study and get the work done. It's all gender affirming care. Do you know what I mean? Well, speaking on this, did you know that right now there was a news article that says that Hollywood actresses are en masse getting work done right now during

the strike. So they're going to their doctors and there is actually a huge movement amongst Hollywood A-listers and B-listers. Oh, don't forget the B. It's actually real culture number 49. Don't forget the B, listers. They're all moving to get their work done now because the strike is going to go on for a while.

So we're going to be seeing all the girls with new faces, heads, knees, shoulders, toes, etc. Full head transplants. I can't wait. I say get them. Get them. Should we get some?

I might get a little third eye. I want a little eye transplant. You want a third eye? I want a third eye. Speaking of the third eye. I think this is the perfect transition. There is some cards on the table. And cards on the table? There's some cards on the table and cards on the table.

There's some cards on the table. Thank you. We have, can I just see what the deck is? Here we go. We brought our sis in.

Ask your guides Oracle cards. We need to get into these. We're going to get into these. I don't trust anyone to tell me my Fortunetta like my girl. And this actually

is a moment in Lost Cult History because I think probably the number one most referenced person tell me my Fortunetta, like my girl. And this actually is a moment in lost culture history because I think probably the number one most referenced person on the podcast is probably Sudi. But that's only because we've known her much longer. We've known Sudi for decades. Decades. But there was a before and an after.

It's a movement, not a moment. It's a movement, not a moment. One day my sister shows up and goes, I was talking to House. And I was like, who? And then I didn't even have to ask it out loud because I was like, there's that guy. You felt threatened.

I did not feel threatened. I was actually so overjoyed. Why are you shaking your leg? I was not. No, my sister moves out to LA. I miss her terribly. And then I see this person come into her life and I say, it's all going to be okay.

And I said, I had to bring her into your life. And then it was kind of a beautiful moment. I'll never forget. I love house so much. I love house as in the unit house and the individuals that comprise house. Yeah. So this is the big episode for the readers

because they get to meet house. And what I am pointing to on the table, cards on the table, are these astral guides, oracle cards. And he said he was going to bring these to the podcast recording.

And I sort of just, in the back of my mind, was like, I don't think he even really does that. And then you came in and asked, do you do this? And he said, no. Oh, no,

it was actually the lovely woman we just met. It was Enid who asked, do you do this? And he said, no, but I can do it. Yeah. Which is a perfect way to answer.

That's actually something that everyone out there needs to know about astrology. Even if you can't do it, you can do it. Because like, watch this. So I've pulled out this card. This is intuition and inner child. So what I'm seeing for you- Not a tarot card, by the way.

What I'm seeing for you is that you need to honor yourself. And if you don't start honoring yourself now, you never will, Bowen. And if you're not laughing and smiling and playing with the inner child every day, you're doing it wrong. I am literally on a reparenting journey. And how could you have drawn that card

were it not for the cosmos? I have the gift. And so does our guest. And so does Sonia Choqu so does Sonia Choquette. Sonia Choquette. What a name. Choquette. Choquette.

Oh my God, me in the bedroom. They call me a Choquette. I'll be... Oh, so you're the choker. I actually hate choking sexually. Yeah. I don't like it. I don't like when people...

Because people also get crazy about it. It's hard to regulate. Well, yeah, because you can't breathe. Listen, if you like choking, I bet you're a damn Republican because you hate the regulation. Okay? Oh my God, I'm so shook. I know. I think we need to cut straight to this

and bring our guest in. Wouldn't you say? Ladies and gentlemen, and non-binary friends, please welcome into your ears House, a.k.a. Patrick Rogers Wow it's your moment House and now they get to hear your iconic like midwestern voice

finally say the word house so midwestern Indiana yeah Indiana born and raised baby corn fed Midwest best and I bet that people when they knew that you would come on the podcast when they went on today, they thought that you would have a voice

sort of like us, like sort of a faggy voice. Yes. And then you sort of come in and you have sort of this like authoritative. Yes. What would you say? How would you call yourself?

Sort of a choker voice. Oh. I think. You don't choke. I think. If they like it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know,

bottom's choice. Bottom's choice. Is what I say. Title of app. Title of app. See, here I was thinking the title of app would be house, but already it's bottom's choice. Bottom's choice.

Now, can we go back to something? Yes. Could I? Nicole Kidman. Yeah. Just because I feel like. We need your input. Yeah.

So I think one thing we have to say is anything that is that iconic and prolific needs to end at some point because it's like in Christopher Nolan's Batman, you become the enemy of the story. That's what they say in the movie. That's what they say in the movie. You become the enemy of the story. We can't keep doing the same ad

and a sequel? Honey, come on. There's never going to be anything better than the original. But didn't they say that she was filming a sequel? They said that they were writing it. They've been writing it for two years. Apparently it's not been approved. And I don't blame them.

Yeah, of course. For not approving it and for taking this on to write it. But I will say, you go, you sit in your AMC, you've got your slushie, you got your popcorn. Nicole comes on. And whether the movie is bad, whether the movie is good,

you're in your entertainment church. Period. And she is the pastor saying, come on in, baby girl, and just relax and enjoy yourself. And it's nice to be led into that. I think that's a really nice way to start a film. So then where do you stand on this then? Should it end

or should it be a pastor? It could never, it can never be again. Yeah. It can never be again with her. Right. But my God, they should try something else.

Maybe Darling Nay could do something. Darling Nay could do something. Well, then that would, that really does come off as like, Nicole didn't want to do it. Yeah, you know. It should be like Enya Taylor-Joy. I thought you were about to say Enya.

Enya! Welcome to the- Enya should be back on screens. Enya should be back on screens. Did Enya ever act? Mmm. Who can say? Music videos.

That's rule of culture number 80. Did Enya ever act? Who can say? Enya at the Oscars, may it be? Lord of the Rings, Fellowship of the Ring? I was saying, this woman is a performer. Insane. Insane. It's a disservice that she's

in Ireland, in her castle with her cats, and she will not leave. She will not leave. She will not see us anymore. She doesn't care. She doesn't care. Do you think she has a recording studio in the castle? She does. You know this? Yes. There's an article, famous article from five years ago where they're like, Enya's this

misanthrope, recluse. They go, they talk to people around her. There's all this stuff about her castle, her studio in there and stuff. It's fascinating. It's Irish Bjork. It's very Irish Bjork. Very Kate Bush. It's Kate. Our weird girls who we love. I love it. You know when they were saying that Billie Eilish is the new Kate Bush and know it's Kate our weird girls who we love I love it

you know when they were saying that Billie Eilish is the new Kate Bush and we all laughed and I cried now I get it and I cried

and I cried but I get what they're saying like young prodigy kind of like doing something different yes anyway I just wanted to put that out there

no I think it's an interesting comparison I think it's more interesting that than when people say like Caroline Polachek or something. Oh, Caroline Polachek.

Which I don't think is necessarily as similar. We love her. We love her. My God. My God. We stan. We stan.

I don't think that that's really two of the same things. I just watched that. They just released again. You know how Billie Eilish does the same interview? Yes.

Every year. Every year. So this is the sixth one. And I think it is a thing of like, Nicole, it might be needing to end because it's getting

to the point now where she is like watching herself from six years past and she's kind of just like, yeah, man, like I feel like, I feel like the loop

has closed on it. Whereas it's like, I don't know how much longer she'll do it, but Billie Eilish as of late seems like a very adult person. Whereas like, I think what's been fun about those Billie Eilish interviews is it's like, I don't know how much longer she'll do it, but Billie Eilish, as of late, seems like a very adult person. Whereas, like, I think what's been fun about those Billie Eilish interviews

is it's like, oh, look at her figuring it out. Like, as she goes, like, look how she changes. And now she's just sitting there and she's just like, wow, I can't believe I've done this every year. I really was young. And there's nothing else being offered in the vein of why we're interviewing her. It's just like, it's been a thing. I like the concept.

It doesn't have to be, like, Richard Linklater. I do like her more and's just like, it's been a thing. I like the concept. It doesn't have to be like, Richard Linklater. I do like her more and more. Oh, totally. Yeah. You know, that little Barbie song. The Barbie song is good.

Stuck in my head. Oh my, well, in the film too. Perfect moment in there. I saw it again last night and I almost cried. Wow.

I've had more emotional reaction the second time seeing it than I did the first. The first, I was kind of just like, overwhelmed and like, I can't believe this movie. Like, wow. And reaction the second time seeing it than I did the first. The first I was kind of just like overwhelmed and like, I can't believe this movie. Like, wow. And then the second time I think I was ready to receive the messages a little bit more.

And I was really, really moved by it. And that part is like when they show all the images and cuts of different like women and girls throughout their life. I was like, this is pretty special. I was moved. I was moved. I was teary eyed. I laughed. I got teary eyed.

I had the full, you know, emotional story. Even on Lexapro. Especially. You can do it. You can do it. You can do it. Should we confess something, you and I? What?

Our experience with another movie. Oh. I think we should. I think we should. Here's what I'm going to say. I think everyone. Here's what we're going to say. And you know this is true.

Special Ops Lioness. Is this what we're gonna say and you know this is true special ops lioness is this what we're talking about no we didn't make it through Oppenheimer you guys we saw it in a theater movie theater

in a movie theater in AMC neither AMC nor Regal tough Village East by Angelica huge theater

of many happy memories in that theater have seen the room there. I've thrown plastic spoons at the screen there. Classic New York theater. Classic New York theater. Saw Bridesmaids there

for the first time. I was like, I will always remember this moment, you know? I will always remember this moment of Oppenheimer because one, the concessions line

was too long. Down the block. Down the block. Any manner of speaking. And then, the movie itself, our main thing was is Flo Pugh gonna have

tits out every scene she's in? She deserves better than this? Is Emily Blunt gonna be an alcoholic nag in every scene she's in? She deserves better than this. That's like the theme of Christopher Nolan's filmography is that the women in them deserved much better than that. But, I mean, literally,

my thing with it was, with my one precious life, no more three hour movies. They're going to keep coming. Well, yeah. I mean, they show no signs of stopping. But my thing is like, by the time Barbie is over,

the bomb hasn't even gone off. Right, right, right. And the bomb was going off in little ways up until the hour and a half mark for us anyway, where Matt was truly jumping out of his seat and we were like this is not did you see this

I haven't yeah right and if you enjoy it please if anyone enjoys this movie I celebrate but for us

in that moment on a Monday night after the weekend we had did we do that weekend I don't know I think we just like hung out.

A big weekend. It was a big weekend of hanging out. But you were so relaxed from it. And then to go into Oppenheimer and get jilted around. Oh, this is what I wanted to say about the Angelica of it all. You feel it.

And this is not a drag on them. It's a kind of a drag on the movie because I realized I've had this problem with Christopher Nolan's movies a lot. I can't hear them. Like when I saw Interstellar in what I thought was a great movie theater years ago, like I've given that movie the benefit of the doubt and I tend to give his movies

the benefit of the doubt. Actually, I'm a huge fan of his. I couldn't hear this movie and I could not hear Interstellar to the point where I was just like, what is it? Like, is it just that everything is so, the score was so it just covered the whole movie in a way that his scores do.

And I was just like, girl, I can't win my one precious life. I haven't seen the film yet. And I'm a big Christopher Nolan fan. So I'm excited to see it. Going back. Yes, going way back. I just mentioned Batman.

Who else has heard of that film? No. But I will say I saw Tenet when it was out around the pandemic and that film was so confusing to me. I felt like my grandmother trying to watch Matrix.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I kept turning to my friend being like, what is going on here? And you're a smart guy. Who said what to who? I went to college. Yeah, you're a smart guy.

I'm educated. I know some stuff. 100%. I couldn't figure out who was what. And poor Elizabeth Debicki, legs in the air. She looked eight feet taller than everybody. He didn't know how to shoot her.

And you know, as a six foot three man, I respect these tall girls. Respect these tall girls. And I don't like when men don't know how to film them. They got her in an SUV, legs out in the air. She's looking like Clifford the Big Red Dog. It's a sick way to treat a woman, I think. I would agree.

The thing is, in this film, how tall do you think Emily Blunt is? 5'9". She looked 5'11 in the trailer. She looked really tall. I don't know what that is. Is he filming them from up? Trying to get up their skirt? Why are they looking so tall? Here's the thing.

Literally, to go back to the Florence Pugh of it all, she really was nude the entire movie. You're going to not be able to handle it. And there's no reason for it. And that's my girl. I know. We love Flo. The reason is that there's sex. No problem. We love that. Heard of it. Heard of it. But then that character, that person in real

life, sad little ending there. Then where's Killian's cock, okay? I'm sorry, but, like, why is the woman nude the whole time? Yeah. You get Flo tits, you get Killian cock. That's the equation. That's the equation. For a happy film.

I'll tell you what. Because on paper, every project looks like it's going to slay. Yes. Right. So, you can see why she would want to do something like this. Christopher Nolan is one of our current auteurs of cinema. I think any actor actress would kill to have

a role. Of course, I think she saw the role. At least it wasn't the housewife. I'm sure she thought there was something interesting there. She's never done sex like that. I mean, I'm thinking Lady Macbeth. Was there that much? I don't think so. Right. There was famously when Harry Styles ate her out in Don't W think so. Right. There was famously when Harry Styles

ate her out in Don't Worry Darling and then she was pissed about it. Remember she was like stop reducing this movie to just the sex because then Olivia Wilde was out there being like

in my movie only the women come. Remember that narrative? Olivia Wilde in my movie only the women come and then you find out at the end

all the women are being brutalized. Well, yeah. They come to grips. They come to grips with the fact that men are the women are being brutalized. Right. Well, yeah. They come to grips. They come to grips with the fact that men are their oppressor. Oh God.

But Flo, you know what? Flo, I think, well, I was going to say, Emily probably looked at the script and said, I'm the nagging wife, but at least I'm on a horse.

And I'm like, they can shoot me tall. Fun to be on a horse. I'll say that. Yeah. Actually not fun. Not fun to be on a horse. Run horse for camera.

Guess what? This crew, and I love this crew, but this crew decided to have a drone. And of course the horse don't know what the fuck that is. No. And then I almost died. I didn't tell you this? No.

Almost died in Iceland. This wasn't the narrative that you came back with from Iceland. The other narrative from Iceland was that I had a piece of used toilet paper, my own used toilet paper stuck to my shoe. And then everybody on set saw and... Walking around set with a shitty piece of toilet paper coming from his pants. With a big brown on my pants. Big old brown. Big old brown.

But the other narrative... Iconic. The other narrative was riding on horses. And wouldn't you know, the drone, even hundreds of yards away, these horses can clock. They were spooked. Yep. Yes, they were spooked. And then I almost fell off.

Not a horse can clock? Not a horse can clock. Not true with these girls. Not true with these girls. A horse could clock. A horse could clock. Famously. Famously.

So you almost got bucked. I almost got bucked. And there was part of me, though, that I was like, this is a good way to go. Chic way to die. Chic way to die. Bowen Yang was on set in Iceland. He was thrown from a horse and passed. Now, I remember the narrative.

You loved Iceland. Oh, we need to talk about. Let's say that. You guys have both had incredible Iceland experience. Because I just got back from Iceland a few weeks ago. Tell us about your Iceland experience. Iceland is one of the most magical places I've ever been. The people are so funny.

Yep. A deeply funny people. I've never seen you so happy when you came back. It was one of the best vacations I've ever taken in my life. First of all, with Josh and Aaron, who the readers know. And they're just the easiest

people to travel with. I mean, you know, we've done Fire Island with them. They're very easy people to be around. And they know people from their improv days. Big improv scene in Iceland. Big, huge improv scene in Iceland. You would never know this. Randomly. Who would guess? I wouldn't guess that.

And so their friends from improv have a summer house. Take us to the summer house in the south of Iceland. Waterfalls everywhere. We're going to... Fosses. Fosses. Fosses. Golgafoss. Golgafoss. Which ises. Fosses. Golgafoss. Golgafoss. Which is their backyard foss.

Golgafoss. We're seeing puffins and manatees. They eat the puffin. They eat the puffin there. I did not. I did not partake. Not great. What's a puffin?

It's a little penguin. Gorgeous little bird. They're eat for sport? Not often. Not often. It's like an old Icelandic tradition, but they don't really keep it up with it anymore. They eat puffins, don't they?

They eat puffins, don't they? Don't they? But no, it was just like, the people were amazing. Reykjavik's so darn cute and charming. They're obsessed with water. House knows this. House and I used to go every Sunday

to We Spa in LA when we both lived there. It's just one of the great institutions in Los Angeles. We got to go to Sojo Spa. I was saying, we need to do that soon. It looks amazing. It's amazing. What's Sojo Spa? It's in Jersey.

It's in Jersey. It was what I was going to do before Beyond That. It's like five floors. It's incredible. You also need to join us at, what's the one we went to? Governor's Island? The Governor's Island Spa. It's a little bit of a trek, but so is Jersey.

I'll go. I'll go. It's a trek, but they take the ferry right there. They have their own ferry. Oh, that's nice. It's really Spa. It's a little bit of a trek, but so is Jersey. I'll go. I'll go. It's a trek, but you take the ferry right there. They like have their own ferry. Oh, that's nice. So, you know. Spa ferry. But anyway, they're obsessed with spa culture.

Where did you go? Did you go to Blue Lagoon? Went to Blue Lagoon. Went to Blue Lagoon. Did you go to Sky Lagoon? I think so. I can't remember the other name. It's outside Reykjavik, but I think it's Sky.

But you're on the water and you're in like these rocks. You went to Sky. And you're in the water. You went to like these rocks and you're in the water in a hot lagoon. It's insane. Now, can I ask, when they say hot lagoon, just how hot? A perfect temperature. 92 or something. And you walk up and they, with

all of these, they've walk up bars and you have your like wrist thing. So you're clock, let me get an Aperol Spritz. Clock, let me get a da da da. Clock, let me get some wine. I'm tipsy as hell let me get a da-da-da. Clock, let me get some wine. I'm tipsy as hell looking at- You would love it. I would.

This is so the vibe. Looking at the stunning ocean, the clouds are passing by. In summer, it's a nice 60 degrees. Like, it was just- Sun don't set till 11.30 p.m. Yeah, that was part of it. And then I said, let's go for New Year's Eve.

And then they said, well, that's when there's only three and a half hours of sunlight or whatever. Yeah, tough. And no one's going out. That's New Year's Eve and then they said, well, that's when there's only three and a half hours of sunlight or whatever. Yeah. And no one's going out, is what I heard. Highest density of... Puffin. Of Puffin. Sorry.

Highest density of people who write novels per population. Isn't that beautiful? Novelist per capita? Yes, yes. Fascinating fact about Iceland. This is the thing about Iceland and the Icelandic people. There is no original sin. The Vikings just got there. No one was there. Let's build a town. They didn't have to kill anybody.

Nope. Didn't have to like make anybody feel crazy or oppressed. They don't have the guilt. They don't have the shame. And I'll tell you what's one cool other thing is that there's only one real gay bar because gay queer people are so integrated into the culture that they

don't need for their own safe little space. They don't really need it. They're out at all the straight bars with everybody else chilling, hanging out. I was like, this is so cool. Like, it was very, very special. And the actors there. Can I just say,

the people who played my family, I probably talked about this already, on Nora from Queens, it was like the Meryl Streep of Iceland. Really? And it was like the leading character actor of Iceland and they've known each other for 30 years. They're like, hey, how are ya?

And then they're like, we love doing comedy. Because they're like, all we do here are like Nordic noirs and it's so depressing. Everyone's getting raped and killed. Oh my God. On our shows.

It's always Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Yeah. And then they're like, this is fun. They're like, we want more comedies. So you go there, it's like this incredible community spirit. And then the reason why you were there was to see Bjork. Bjork. Do a DJ set. Yes. So talk about

this. So basically what happened was Bjork was supposed to do her concert there. She's doing like a flute orchestral moment. Yes. Well. I saw this at Coachella. She couldn't make a flute orchestral moment. Yes. Well. I saw this at Coachella. She couldn't make get the flutes to Iceland because of some

It was a supply chain thing. It was a supply chain thing. Yeah. And so she was like, shoot, well, anyone who is outside of Iceland and bought flights,

I'm going to do a DJ set for you. Bjork said, shoot. She said, darn it. She said, darn it. Oh my gosh. And so she said, shoot. She said, darn it. She said, darn it. Oh my gosh.

And so she said, I'm going to do a fabulous little DJ set for you. And so the way it was explained to me was there was supposed to be a big concert in Iceland and then she said,

I'm canceling it if you are from Iceland. Sorry, girl. I'll be back later. But international ticket holders got a special DJ set. And how could they tell? Based on like where you purchased.

IP address. Well, I'm sure your credit card. You understand? You understand. So anyway, we go there. She holds it at her friend's art gallery. It's 100 people. That's it.

And we're scheduled. It's supposed to be like two and a half hours. And we're like, is she going to do a full two and a half hours DJ set? So we get there. She's in her garb. She dressed up. The girl is fully in a green wig. And like,

there's some fungi out of her. And like, she's wearing like a gown and like a cape and the whole thing. And she's just up top, like five feet above us, just like a little bit above us. And like saying hi. And then she does up top, like five feet above us, just like a little bit above us and like saying hi. And then she does a two and a half hour set.

She starts with 40 minutes of classical remixes that she does herself into tropical beats, into hardcore rap, into like indie remix. It is the most insane DJ set I've ever heard in my life.

She's just like fully like jumping with the audience, like getting her life, sweating her tits off. It was unreal. One of like the most sacred experiences I've had. She was amazing.

I'm so glad you had that. This woman, did you ever listen to the podcasts? Yes. Like she does like for each album? Yes. This woman knows music in a way that you would never

believe. It knows everything about everything. It's crazy. I mean, even Sugar Cubes. I mean, she was like 11 writing insane music. I mean, she is a prodigy in like the truest sense and continues to evolve, which is exciting to like have an artist you've loved since you were a kid and they keep doing new things, you know, doesn't always happen. Doesn't always happen, you know? Like, it's really interesting when you have someone who has that stamina. Yes. Because they don't all.

Because some of them are, you hole up in their Irish castles with their cats and don't come out. With their cats and won't say hi to me. Is that kind of flop, though? I mean, are we, let's take Enya to task because, come on. Come on.

We need it. We need it. Give it to us. What is the other Enya song that's really good? It's Only Time. Sail Away. Come on. We need it. We need it. Give it to us. What is the other Enya song that's really good? It's Only Time. Sail Away. Sail Away.

Yeah. That is a fucking gorgeous song. What was the CD that was like pure moods that would come on? Celtic Moods. Celtic. And that song was always

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we did just see Beyonce this week Oh I mean The East Rutherford Show and I love when I love whenever anyone plays

MetLife and they go New Jersey Contractually I think they can't say New York Yeah You know what I would do

if I was one of the girls and I'm gonna act it out If I was Taylor Okay And this is I'm going to act it out? If I was Taylor. Okay, okay. And this is, you have to understand, when Taylor Swift is on stage at MetLife,

she's Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yes, the whole time. Unless it's the Evermore or Folklore section. She's only Taylor Swift when it's Evermore or Folklore and when she does

the surprise songs. Go. And also, you could argue that Taylor Swift makes an appearance sometimes in the Fearless section. Sure. So this is my impression of what I would do as Taylor Swift if I'm sometimes in the Fearless section. Sure. So this is my impression

of what I would do as Taylor Swift if I'm on stage at MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Be cheering for me. Woo! Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

Woo! Yes. Thank you, everyone. It's so fun to be in New Jersey tonight. Woo! Woo! Hi, New York. Ah!

Ah! And then I would go, ah. But! Hi, New York. Ah! Ah! And then I would go, ah. But you know what she did in 1989? I think I have a pretty solid memory of this, and it's been documented, recorded. I think she went, it's nice to be in Jersey. Ah! Some people came in from New York.

Ah! And even Connecticut. Ah! And the people booed. Shut up. You suck. Play the hits. Fuck you, Taylor.

This sucks. Play blank space. Why, girl? I think she felt like she had the responsibility to do the entire tri-state. You know what I mean? Yeah, she was like, some fishermen from Maine. Rhode Island, Queens Queens stand up all of a sudden she becomes like Rhode Island Queens Rhode Island Queens what do you think so this is a Taylor Swift community right here what do you think and i'm really already willing

to jump ahead what do you think is the next era of Taylor Swift? Well, first of all, it's August 1st, so let's say Salt Air and the rocks on your door. Do I say the August prayer? That's the August prayer, so I'm glad we got to that. Because let's break down all the eras. There was Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift was very much Taylor Swift, like

I'm country girl. Then Fearless was country superstar. Country superstar, let me dip into Faith Hill aesthetic. Let me dip into, yeah. Golden girl. Golden girl from the country. Yeah. Then Speak Now was Disney princess.

Disney princess. Yes. Red was pop crossover country superstar. Yes. I'm a woman. I'm a woman now. I'm a woman. And I've actually been through things.

Jake. So now we're ready to talk about Jake. Where's the scarf, Jake? Yeah, where's the scarf? And that's like the color, the imagery that was the first like sort of, really Taylor Swift really started to come out. She crept out.

She crept out. And then she jumped back in. And then she jumped back in. But 1989 was Imperial Phase pop superstar in New York, bitch. First Imperial Phase, some might argue. Yeah, Girlfriends first. Every Night is a Girl's Night. Yes. Barbie. First Imperial face, some might argue. Yeah. Girlfriends first. Every night is a girl's night.

Yes. Barbie. Very that. Very Barbie doll. Barbie. I mean, girl's night only. No boys allowed.

Boys just can. If Margot Robbie was around at the time, she would have been in the squad, et cetera. And she wasn't around at the time. Can you believe we got every single stop she was introducing someone to come out on stage.

Oh, you know who we got? You know who we got? Who? Uzo Aduba. Uzo Aduba. Wow. From in treatment. From in treatment.

It was so funny because it was literally like, I think there was like six models came out. And then she literally goes, and now you know her from Orange is the New Black. And everyone was like, and then she was like Uzo and Uzo

comes out and stomps the runway everyone's screaming she had a good stomp I bet she served she did she was ready first of all

she doesn't not serve she doesn't not serve I did do something last year at the Emmys night before party where I was very excited to see her

the only person I was excited to see and I did go up to her and say I'm a huge fan. She goes, thanks. You're calling her out? I'm calling her out a little bit. I was a little disappointed.

And now I know that sometimes I should try to avoid that energy. You know what I mean? Yes. What if this now makes the circulation and it gets back to Uzo Adubo? Uzo Adubo. Uzo Adubo.

And it's like, oh no, I know who he was. I don't like him. I don't like him. Uzo Aduba. And it's like, oh, no, I know who he was. I don't like him. I don't like him. I don't like that. I would respect that. I don't like that guy. I don't like that guy.

Oh, that's the guy from SNL. I don't like him. Uzo Adubo comes out. I hated Fire Island. She thought his politics were wrong. She disagrees. She disagrees. You know, this is like when I went to the SAG Awards and I ran into Robert De Niro.

And I said, thank God we finally met. Yeah, this is really, that's a good line to Robert De Niro. And he laughed. Thank God we finally met. That's really funny. I was drunk as a skunk. Yeah, you were with Louis Vettel

and that pissed him off. Oh yeah, Louis was fussy, fussy. And I was getting my life. Wasn't there someone else you went up to? I, God, am I going to say? Zoe Kravitz. I went up to Zoe Kravitz and I held her hand and I said,

baby, you can say faggot. She said, no, he goes, no, he's not giving her credit. He said, baby, in that dress, you can say faggot. I'm sure she could. I think she considered it. She said, thank you. Baby, in that dress, you can say faggot. To Zoe Kravitz.

Yeah. I was having fun I'm sure well yeah did we meet anyone every time I've been with you to the Emmys that was sort of like

pre well Michelle Williams and Busy Phillips was that first year oh that was an iconic first meeting yes Busy Phillips was coming back

from the bathroom right behind us with Michelle Williams and she looked at us and she goes you guys are doing it right with those drinks you were double fisting

cocktails of course and then did she reveal that she knew who you were? She did not reveal. But then when she came on the podcast, she said that she did know at the time, which I don't busy. I don't think I believe you. No, I think she did. I actually think that you are well known.

It is known who Bowen is. Yes. It is known. It is known. It is known. But Uzo. oh, 1989. Oh, I was going to the end. Okay, okay.

Go back to the era. We got sidetracked. Okay, so what I was saying was, then there was 1989, which was Imperial Phase, pop star, like, nah. Then, of course, there was the great fall in the media reputation,

and then that was the great album reputation. The greatest, one of the greatest albums of all time, Reputation. You're right, you're right. It is so important that we speak that because some of these girls, I think they don't know there was a narrative and it got put on that album

and it was false. There were many lies spread. I'll tell you, one of the lies that Taylor told herself was that that album was a failure because in the Miss Americana documentary, she on camera doesn't get the Grammy nominations and she's like okay well I just have

to make a better album and I almost had to stand up and scream at the TV because I was like no this was the album. This was the album. You need to say that direct to camera. Reputation was the album and we've actually said it many times because it actually won album of the year again this year. It did. It won album of the year at the Culture Awards. No it didn't.

It won best era. It won the eras Award for Best Era. Oh, it won the Eras Award for Best Era. Another great award. Yeah. Equally esteemed. Equally esteemed. So then after that was, of course, Lover,

which was Queer Rights, which was, of course, love is love is love is love. It was The Color Rainbow. It was giving Purple Clouds, Pink Clouds, Lisa Frank. Lisa Frank. And then we, of course,

had her doing interviews again because reputation was there will be no explanation there is only reputation I am not speaking to you because you did me wrong but if you listen to the music I'm actually happy

happier than ever that's not Taylor no that's Billie but keep going then was followed by Folklore which was of course Pandemic

like Country Girl yeah Folklore I'm a Folloric gal. I was just talking to someone about this too over the weekend. The album that turned them onto Taylor. The album that turned Patti LuPone onto Taylor. Was folkloric?

Was folkloric. Remember she tweeted? She was like, I just went for a drive with my daughter. We put on the new Taylor Swift album. She's a poet. She's a poet. Hey, better late than never, Patty. Yeah.

Patty. And you know who Patty likes? Sondheim. Sondheim. Yeah. She likes writers. Yeah, she likes writers. She rarely listens to people

who do not write. Know that. Know that. Then After Folklore was, of course, the superior album of the pandemic, which was Evermore. I get in a lot of trouble

about saying this, but House and I are together on this. It is such a powerful statement. Winter Girls. There's nothing quite like it. No one's ever written anything quite like it.

It really takes you back home to your hometown in a way that it's a place. It really puts you there in a way that I think is so specific. And I'm still trying to figure the album out. And that's how you know it so specific and I'm still trying to figure the album out and that's how you know it's good. I'm still solving it. During the Evermore era of the

Era Store, you hear Tis the Dem Season. You're horny. You're horny. That's about the hometown, baby. Amen. Amen. Then Midnight's Darkness. The theme is, of course, being up late. Yes. The theme is anxiety. The theme is of course being up late yes the theme is

anxiety the theme is agita and yet the theme is best believe I'm still bejeweled when I walk in the room I can make the whole place shimmer what is the next era

well you know there are reports that Max Martin and Shellback are back in the studio with her. Yes. What does that mean though? It means imperial pop. It means like undeniable pop hooks are coming back. Bangers. Not that Midnight's didn't have them, but Midnight's was, I think Midnight's was less sort of. It's a little

lo-fi. It's a little lo-fi. It's a little bit like vibes. It's a little bit like, it's a little vibes. Yeah, exactly. It's a vibey album. It was actually, I think, exactly what I predicted it would be, which is, what did I say? It was like early 2000s.

Yeah, like Death Cab. Death Cab vibes. Like I thought that. Of the indie pop era. Yes, indie pop era. Like what's that called? Such Great Heights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sort of situation.

Postal Service. Yeah, Postal Service. Like that type of thing is the closest we've gotten from her to that. Jack Antonoff is definitely very immersed in that world and very interested in that world.

And I think as a consumer of Taylor, I'm very interested to see post-Jack a little bit more, a little more coke, a little less K, you understand? A little more coke, a little less K. You understand? A little more coke, a little less K. Yeah, I'm ready to get her back on her feet. Okay.

Yeah. Okay. Without Jack. I don't think we need Jack for a minute. I like what he's done. Big fan of that guy. Big fan of that guy. Love Jack. But I just think that artists need to work with new producers and expand themselves.

And I think sometimes when you get into these relationships and these patterns, you can be creating similar things for a number of... So would you say... Yeah, go ahead. Well, I was really quickly... We're going to ask the same thing. Would you think so?

How do you feel about what Jack did to Lorde with the Yellow Album? The Yellow Album. The Yellow Album. The Yellow Album. Sunset Cruise. With Sunset Cruise. With Sunset Cruise. What's it called?

It's called Solar Power. Solar Power, yeah. With Solar Power. Which is famously an album that Jack Antonoff did to Lorde. Yeah, he did to Lorde. I think so. I think that Lorde has been a darling of critics for a very long time. And I think sometimes having a miss makes you even greater.

And I think sometimes in your early career, having a miss like that can make you hungrier and ready for, in a new way for an era that's more exciting. So I'm hoping that the lesson is, you know, Jack flopped. Now I fly. I hope so. I hope so. God, I hope so.

I fucking love Lorde. I love Lorde. But I will say this. There was not a bone in my body that could get into that album. Melodrama? That is one of my favorite concepts. One of the perfect albums of our generation. It's a perfect album.

And to go from that to Yellow Album, it's shocking. It's really shocking to the system. I think maybe there was just like, there was this thing and I think there's this thing

with Lorde where it's like, she took a really, she took a much bigger swing than I think she thought she did. Yeah. Yes. Because there wasn't anything to latch onto with that album.

Like, even the first single, like, people seemed excited about it for like, I was excited for exactly 24 hours. I was going to say 48. And then it kind of went away and I was just like, yeah, there needs to be something else. Also, maybe it didn't feel as fresh

and new as she thought that was going to sound. Because Harry Styles was kind of doing a similar type thing, at least aesthetically anyway. It felt like really pop and a lot to latch on to. Does that make sense or is that bad? No, no, no, that makes sense. Ultimately, which is a house saying, ultimately,

I think that the production wouldn't have stopped it if the writing were better. I do think that that album was not written as well as melodrama. And I think that the production exacerbated that. And I do think that having an album flop like that could very well be great for her. I think there's many lessons in failure and as many lessons in failure, more so probably than in success.

And so hopefully, you know, she takes that and makes a really strong, beautifully written album because melodrama is so well written. I mean, I actually, with all knowledge of the fact that melodrama is her greatest work to date, I still prefer Pure Heroine because of where it takes me back to. Which is like right after college.

Right after college. I remember I was like, this is so lame, but I was like very much in like a place. I was like experimenting with weed a lot, like smoking a lot of weed for the first time.

And like listening to like 400 Lux and being a little stoned and like walking around New York, I felt that I was like killing it. And like, I just love pure heroin so, so, so, so, so, so much. And then melodrama,

I can fully respect is like probably one of the greater albums of the past, like, 20 years. Who's to say that Solar Power, though, in, like, two albums from now is gonna be, like, her reputation? Do you know what I mean? Because there really was a stench on that, on reputation

for a long time. I don't think there was. From the media, from the media, I think there definitely was. I stood her because she wasn't talking the media, I think there definitely was. Well, they replaced her because she wasn't talking to them. I think that the audience loved Reputation. Yeah.

Well, I just remember the day that Reputation leaked. I remember this day. One person in particular, I won't say his name, it was like, ugh,

do you want me to send you Taylor Swift's disgusting, bad album? And I had already listened to it at that point and I wanted to be like, I'm enjoying it. It was not Kola Skola.

It was them. It was them. It was them. Here's what I'll say. I will cop to this. When Look What You Made Me Do first came out, I was like, no. Yeah. I will go on record as saying,

which by the way, it's now, first of all, when she does it in concert, you're living and screaming and now I love it and I get it. When it first came out, I think I didn't like the whole angle of like I'm antagonizing the media back after like all this stuff.

And if you really think about it, like that was such a difference from what she had done that I was just like, I did not get it, did not like it, did not like the video. Whereas now I want to go back and I want to like lightly just slap myself in the face a little bit and say, shame on you. But also with Taylor,

there's always typically besides anti-hero, there's backlash from every lead single. I mean, that's one part of being a Taylor fan is you're always a little off put by the lead singer. She's made the wrong choice, I think a couple of times. Many times in spite being, you know, this master riddler of sorts

the lead single she gets wrong a lot it's an Achilles heel of hers oh interesting you know who doesn't ever get the lead single

wrong Beyonce yeah Beyonce's lead single is never wrong break my soul formation break my soul

was and you hear it in the concert when you're at reputation break my soul goes off so hard and talk about a little bit of...

Renaissance. Renaissance is what I mean. Sorry, sorry, sorry. What did I say? You said Reputation. Sorry, I'm being stupid. I'm being... No, but that was wrong.

Well, no, no. But I can kill that instinct. Do you know what I mean? But what if you hadn't said something? Then I would have been out here saying we were at the Reputation World Tour and Beyonce said Break My Soul. Don't fight in front of me.

My God. We're not fighting. We're coming back together but I'll tell you when we would have fought is if he had let me be out here looking like a fucking

dumbass like I would have yeah like you would have out here saying we went to the Beyonce show Reputation Reputation

I'll tell you what though I would like to see Beyonce's cover of Reputation please she would rip it up maybe that's Renaissance Part 2 any cover I wish she would if Renaissance Part 2 is of Reputation. Please. She would rip it up. Maybe that's Renaissance Part 2. Any cover.

I wish she would. If Renaissance Part 2 is just Reputation. Act 2 is just Reputation. Renaissance Act 2 is just Beyonce recording Reputation. This is all the best. She would slay all the songs.

She would slay all the songs. Do you guys have any theories on when Renaissance Act 2 will be? Or what it will be? Every one of my theories has been wrong. Has been wrong and exhausted like

the fact that there's not been any videos at this point i think it's iconic it's never give it to us yeah don't ever give it to us also you know what i've been doing the withholding i love the withholding yeah you know what i've rediscovered just a sidestep for a second and i do want to talk about this but i have been all over tina noson's Instagram. That woman makes me laugh so much. She's funny. When she does her corny joke, she goes, hi everybody,

it's time for a corny joke. And she'll just tell the worst joke you've ever heard. And she'll end everyone with being like, you know, that's funny. And also she acts sometimes. Like there's one, wait,

I have to play it. She's an actor. She's been in movies. There's one, she has been in movies. She was in that movie with um she is I will say like one of the most charming social media presences I like social media with older

people like there's less it should be for parents it's a parent thing it's more enjoyable I don't like when people are too curated on social media like it's fun to just have Beyonce's mom telling corny jokes and shopping at Costco, you know? This was my favorite video I watched yesterday. I actually showed it to my mom.

I said, Mom, you need to be more like her. It was just on the sidewalk. She's eating. It was on the sidewalk. And this is what she says. She's sitting with Solange. Is that Angie Beans? It's Angie Beans.

Oh, okay. So it's Tina Nolce giving direct to camera. This is what happens. Hey, can we be high? We're at a little sidewalk cafe in Paris. So it's Tina Nolst giving direct to camera. This is what happens. Good. And then she puts the camera to Angie and Solange. And they wave. Just then she puts the camera to Angie and Solange. And they wave. Just eating lunch on the sidewalk.

So we're about to get our grub on. So we're about to get our grub on. So we're about to get our grub on. I'm saying that before lunch. It's not sex in the city. It's more like lunch in the city. I said absolutely. So true. So true.

Perfect. The simplest joke structure, I would say, which is, we're outside in a little cafe in Paris. Not really. We're in New York City. Just perfect little... That's the bait and switch.

That's the bait and switch. Genius. Genius. Tina Knowles, she really has it. I will say in that family, you don't get a ton of comedy. No, you really don't. Not since Goldmember.

And it's nice to have one of them be a comedy girl. Oh my god. And you realize like, oh, so she's the comedy girl. Because you got the serious daughter, the indie daughter, and then you got the mom who's the comedy queen. She's more wacky. I do more

jokes. i will say i wanted to say about the concert what i appreciated was when america has a problem when she's in her b uniform she's doing physical comedy it's campy and really silly and it's the most campy i've seen her in years it's really fun like i just love seeing her with that little wiggle in her b costume it's so silly there was comedy in the show when she goes to sleep. Yes. Cozy. Cozy.

Yeah, that's comedy. And you know what? It's not comedy, but you can tell she's like, because Formation, I would say, was like her, like, I do stadiums now, and it was severe. It was very like, we're here on a mission. Albinized. And that album is very incredibly like personally

like heavy, politically heavy. All of that. Renaissance is the first time we've seen her in years be like the key changes during Love on Top. Like the look she's getting she's like oh. Like she's like she's just having fun. She was. She was. And it's the only thing she even said. She's like it's about enjoying life.

Yes. She said it during the concert. She gave a Wendy Williams. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I don't think she expected as many key changes

as she literally cut us off. Yeah, she cut us off. We were doing the love on top key changes. She said, OK, give yourselves a round of applause.

And it was a little bit like good job, but it was a little bit like, OK, stop. She told London to shut up, too. People were going crazy in London. And then I remember her being like,

alright, alright. Give yourself. It's embarrassing that we're the audience that couldn't go on mute though. I was on mute. We were. We were on mute. We were on mute the whole time. The audience that's done the best so far is Nashville. And so I think whatever the stop she has left, please

everybody do your best. Go on mute. Go on mute. So tell people what this is, though. It's during energy when she goes. Big wave in the room. The crowd gonna move. Look around everybody on mute. And then you're all supposed to stop what you're doing. For four counts.

And the worst is when you look around and everyone gets it, and then you have two people that are like, and I'm just like, no. What don't you understand about mute? Yeah, what don't you understand? Speak to a mute person. You know what they're not doing? Talking, screaming, singing. They're mute.

Also, it's a command from Beyonce. I would advise that you listen, you know. To the song here in my heart. That's what I was thinking. What if she had said, I want to do a special song tonight?

I would have been out. I would have fallen out. Are you kidding me? One of my favorite vocals of hers. I mean, it's such a good song too. Beautiful song. I am alone out across the road. Speaking of this.

He just jumped out of his skin. He didn't expect that. We need to get Dreamgirls back on Broadway. It's been too long. You're right. And London Weston got it and they added listen to it.

Doesn't make sense narratively, but I want it. They did it as a duet. They did it as a duet. I don't care. I love it. America, Broadway needs to get Dreamgirls back on stage.

Yes. America has a problem. No Dreamgirls on Broadway. That's my culture number stage. America has a problem. No Dreamgirls on Broadway. That's Recoacher number 99. America has a problem. No Dreamgirls on Broadway. Amber Riley was ready to come over here and win the Tony in a heartbeat. It would have been 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. That easy.

It's actually important that we say this out loud on this actual particular podcast because when we said out loud that we needed a Sweeney Todd big budget revival it then happened. We got it. So this is a podcast where things get spoken into existence. Yes. So that's just what I want to say about that. The Broadway League is number one listener.

They're a Katie. They're a Katie. Everyone on Broadway is. Well a lot of them are readers, publicists. A lot of them are finalists I would say. Finalists I would say. A lot of finalists on Broadway. But I want to say in terms of the Beyonce of it all what is the act 2 when is it coming

I think it's a totally because if you look at the design of the act 1 renaissance it says act 1 renaissance like renaissance is the name of act 1 so act 2 I think is going to be a completely different thing completely different vibe I think renaissance was the house album I think act 2 is

I still think she is going to do some sort of country thing. She definitely will. I think it will be, whatever it will, will be heavily instrumental. Like, I do think it's going to be like rock country.

Like, it's going to be using like real instruments, like live band type vibe is what I would imagine where she would pivot from this. Maybe acoustic? I see I could see but do you remember when she was in Vegas and she had the girls band and there was all girls and she'd that live rock band I think something like that kind of this is the first tour where she's had she's had the boys back yeah you know because for a while there it

was it was all women on stage yes boys. Boys are back in town. Boys are back big time. Yeah. And Beyonce would often say, ladies! Right. It's actually real culture number eight. Beyonce would often say, ladies! The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.

I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy.

We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV Plus. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists.

We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me.

It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.

Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.

Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as

a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We have to ask you the question. Patrick Rogers, house, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Okay, so I thought about this. That's good.

For once. So when I was growing up, my next door neighbors were these lesbians called Debbie and Carol, and I was obsessed with them. And I was best friends with their daughter, Lauren, Lauren, L O R N E.

That's spooking me. Last name, last name. Just take a guess. Last name. Last name. Just take a guess the last name. Michelle. No. This is just the craziest last name. Batman.

No. B-A-T-M-A-N. Lorne Batman. Batman. Lorne, if you're listening to this, I love you, girl. Was it Batman? B-A-T-M-A-N. Did you pronounce it Batman?

Batman. Yes. So not Batman. Well, you know. Batman? Batman. Yes. So not Batman. Well, you know. Lauren Batman. So this girl was how old? Your age. We were whatever, six or seven.

So this girl was how old? It's obviously a different age every year. So you were six or seven. So this was in 1995? Something, yeah. So it was very much established. So Lauren Michaels was very established and so was Batman. So essentially when you name your daughter Lauren Batman, you know exactly what you're doing or you should. Yes. Okay, Lorne Michaels was very established and so was Batman. So, essentially when you name your daughter Lorne Batman, you

know exactly what you're doing or you should. Yes. Okay, sorry Debbie and Carol, you kind of Well, they kind of did something iconic there. This is in Indiana too, though. This is, you know, this is cornfields. Okay, so she was my best friend. We were really young and we were obsessed with the Spice Girls

and we, I wouldn't listen to it at my house. I would't listen to it at my house. I would only listen to it at Lauren's house. And Debbie and Carol knew I was obsessed with the Spice Girls. And they knew what was up. They knew I was obsessed with Posh Spice. And they took me to see the Spice World movie with Lauren. And then they used to take me on vacation with them. They took me to Key West.

They knew I was gay. And they always did things to let let me kind of you know well they surprised me and took Lauren and I to see Spice Girls on tour oh my god Deer Creek Indiana and they let me they dressed me up like Posh and we got to go I got to go to Spice Girls live and I was dressed like Posh and I was just like getting my life. It was the first time I was like out in the house, like kind of dressed girly. And like me and Lauren were just like roaming the concert like on top of the world. And it was really kind of like I was like, oh, like, yes, like this is this is like this feels right. This is life.

So it's not even just, not even just the Spice Girls, not even just the Spice Girls on tour, but like inhabiting Posh. Inhabiting Posh, I got to free myself of some of the already cultural notions of like being a boy and like liking boy things at a very young age because Debbie and Carol knew and let me kind of, you know, be a little gay boy at their house. As it were. This is really important because it's right before Britney, but we're the generation

that kind of missed the Madonna boat in terms of our childhood. So Spice Girls giving you girl power in your face and having that also mean you can dress like us is a huge deal for little boys. There's something... This is bizarre what I'm going to say, but something about the 90s was very flavorful.

You know what I mean? When I think of the 90s, I think flavors. Flavors. Is that stupid? No, because's just like, when I think of the 90s, I think flavors. Flavors. Like, is that stupid? No, because literally, like, I was watching, like, an Instagram story of someone, like, in their car

blasting, like, old school Mariah, and I was like, there's something, like, I'm immediately there, and it's like, it's even more evocative than the 80s to us, obviously,

because we weren't alive at the time. Like, 90s, it was like, they figured it out. They, like, dialed it to the exact right numbers. Well, it was maximalism in it out. They like dialed it to the exact right numbers. Well, it was maximalism in a way that our pop stars don't do as much. We got Gaga, you know, in her streak.

But I felt like the Spice Girls are dressed as their names. Yeah, they're very saturated. I guess that's what I mean. They're like cartoon characters. I'm scary. I'm dressed scary. I'm posh. I'm dressed scary i'm posh i'm dressed you know they're they're giving

you cartoon characters and archetypes yeah that you could affirm yourself at yeah and also they're giving you sex and they're giving you like fun and playfulness and like you know as a gay boy growing up like it was like oh they you, really got to be themselves fully and like do these tours together and be friends. And it was very, you know. They were also doing like claiming of sexuality and using the word feminism and talking about girl power and also putting sisterhood first and like making that message in their music way before people were talking about that in like a intellectual sense. Well, of course, obviously they were. Their catchphrase was girl power. But literally like well of course obviously there was girl power but literally like we there were five-year-olds saying girl power and i remember i like that was the first

time i had ever even heard the word feminism is when like in spice world when they're dressed up as each other and one of them is dressed up as jerry and they're like feminism blah blah blah and i was like yeah feminism like me a seven-year-old. Feminism. I'm a feminist. No, I know. And also, truth be told, I still think the music's great. I still think they're one of the best girl groups we've ever had. Totally. They are icon status. That music, if you listen to the records,

I'm sorry, I remember being at the concert, Deer Creek, Indiana, me dressed as Posh, and they were doing Viva Forever. And I sobbed my little gay eyes out. I was like absolutely just like, oh my God. What is the best Spice Girls song? Oh, that's really hard. Two Becomes One.

That's a really good one. Two Become One is iconic. Who do you think you are? I mean, I think the answer is Wannabe, but I would say Spice Up Your Life you can't ever get away from it. When they come out in the end of the movie and they're coming out of

the fog and they're like la la la la la no it's a dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum it still gets me hype I can still listen to it if that's blasting at the afters, I'm going to be like,

oh, yes. Absolutely, yes. Also, that movie's fun. The movie is so funny. The movie is so great. And by the way, we always say, Posh turns out a comedic tour de force. She's a genius.

I mean, her 73 questions with Vogue is one of the funniest things I've ever seen in my life. This is the funniest single word anyone has ever said. What's the cause you care about? AIDS. AIDS.

When the guy's like, do you think I should give her my grandma's old wedding ring or this new one? And she goes, ugh, don't give her that ropey old thing. That ropey old thing. And then when her assistant comes in and she goes, I need to get you another dress. Where would you like to go on vacation? Kenya!

Kenya! She's a freak! I love her. I'm still waiting on my outstanding achievement award. There is so much about it that is so good. So many moments. It's endlessly rewatchable. And also when she can't do a handshake, you think maybe this woman has never shaken a hand before

she goes up and it's like off and then it's off again she's convinced that she only has one angle which is also there's a moment where she hugs someone you can tell she's so not used to greeting people

how are you great to see you. Aids. No, she says, my award for outstanding achievement, or she says, my outstanding achievement. Outstanding achievement award. Because remember, the Lost Culture is a cultural award. We have a Victoria Beckham Outstanding Achievement Award.

And for her role in the Spice World movie, right? Right. That's what it's for. That is what we're referencing. I mean, there is a part of the movie where, this honestly might be part of the culture that made me say culture wars for me in terms of sense of humor.

There's the scene where they're all doing the obstacle course and Posh, it's revealed that Posh is just walking along on the side in her heels. Yes. I screamed. I said that and that is the gayest shit I've ever seen.

Like for me, like to be screaming at her walking around the side, like, look, she's like, doesn't want to do the physical obstacle course. Like she's too cute for it. Like, I loved it so much. This dress is dry clean only, Melanie. Shut up, Cherry.

Shut up. Remember, what is it? What was it? It goes, it goes. I haven't seen this since the 90s. I spy with my little eye something blue and they go, hospital. And Victoria goes, shut up, Cherry.

I will say like, she gets the comedy bits. Yeah. That stuff like that. She is like very dry. Sense of humor. Very British. Very funny.

Like she can deliver a line. You know, she's great at it. Holler is underrated. Holler. I want to see you. Yeah, that's incredible.

I just took a hard left into Holler, but we have to acknowledge that Forever, is that what that album is called? Yes. The last one. The third, yeah. I mean, it is tragic when you listen to that, though.

You're like, it's missing Jerry, even though it's like, did we ever miss it that much? That's the thing is it's like, in all these groups, when one of them leaves, it is over. Fifth Harmony was ended when Camila left. One Direction was ended when Zayn left Yeah

Because it's so crazy that Harry was still in had that Harry wasn't the first to leave the group and I think Zayn has come Out since and been like yeah, literally the only reason I left was because I wanted to be the first to leave Yeah, what do you get out of that? It stands you apart It says I'm the solo artist, and then he did not really, well, he like, he did, but it's like,

then he disappeared for like five years, didn't he? I think that's for like other reasons. Right, right, right. Cause he like pushed Yolanda Hadid down a step. Did you laugh?

I did not. Okay, there was like a drama where like, he like, wait, there was like, so he famously was with Gigi Hadid. And then there was like a drama where like,

there was like a domestic dispute with Yolanda Hadid of the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. In her fridge? In her fridge. Not in the big fridge. I'll never forget. He pushed her out of the fridge. And that was the step. I'll never forget.

We were in Palm Springs together, which by the way, we've talked about that faded Palm Springs trip. I can't. When we got kicked out of the house. But that was when I got house into Beverly Hills because you fell in love with Kathy Hilton site on scene. I did. You got it.

You got it immediately. I just, I did not realize that there were like funny people on the show. Oh yeah. You know, I just thought they were all bitchy or something. Like I just, I really didn't watch it.

So I didn't know. And that was just, my context was like, Oh, people like to watch them fighting. I watched the show these girls are making me howl these are funny funny girls

he loves the old New York New York is his girls I know they're just so fun I mean Sonia and Ramona and Luann and Beth and Carol I mean they're so good I'm just watching the old one right now I did a speed watch of six just to like get to the part

because I think we, is it Dorinda's in there? Dorinda's not in there yet. Dorinda comes season seven. Seven. Six is Carol. Six and Dvarchop. Six is literally,

no, no, no, no, no. Basically I wanted, I wanted to watch the, you're not, this is going to come out of nowhere. I wanted to watch the first episode of Aviva and then I wanted to watch a bunch of little episodes in between and I wanted wanted to watch the first episode of Aviva.

And then I wanted to watch a bunch of little episodes in between. And I wanted to get to the last episode of Aviva. The leg. The leg. Because the leg is truly one of the most incredible moments of television. The only thing that's fake and artificial about me is this. I'm sick of it. I'm sick of being called fake. She just goes crazy.

And then she goes, here, Heather, take it. I'll crawl home. Throws her leg over. I'm like, being called fake. She just goes crazy. And then she goes, here, Heather, take it. I'll crawl home. Throws her leg over. I'm like, this is wild. She took off her leg and threw it. And threw it. It's history. I love when you watch the reunion of that.

Because I recently also did watch that episode and the reunion. She goes, Andy was like, how did you get it off so fast? Because you must have taken it off. You must have been preparing to do that. She goes, I was definitely preparing to take it off and there's a little button and only I know where it is. So she was saying like only I know where the button is on my leg to take my leg

off so I can pick it up and throw it or slam it on the table as it were. It is, I mean it's so clearly produced and she did come in like ready to do that. And she was cooked right after that. They were like, we can't have this. We can't have this. But like it was, everyone in that restaurant and that they were like we can't have this we can't have this but like it was everyone in that restaurant in that party

was like laughing gasping screaming every like fucking Kristen ugh okay wait no I'm not

ugh on Kristen and I'm excited she's coming back the first season of Kristen was good and she's coming she's coming back to Legacy

to Legacy oh that's right she is coming back to Girls Trip but you're gonna get Bowling a heart attack Kristen Taker and I'm just like,

we don't. She was good her first season. Her tagline the first season was what? I may not be smart, but I'm pretty. Yeah, but I'm pretty. But the way she says it, her line,

which maybe tells you that like she hated saying it. But I'm pretty. I think she thought it was funnier. I think she, okay, so this is what happens when comedy, when girls do comedy but don't. Yes. It's like she thought that she was doing a play on

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed. Like pretty girls, like doesn't mean we're not smart. She thought she was getting ahead of it. And it just like, there was not enough of a structure to like get that across. So it just sounded like she actually was stupid. She's not Tina Knowles. She's not a comedian.

She's not a comedian. Of course. We know this. We know she's not Tina Noles. Bone was saying before we got here that he was watching Old Rony and now we know what season and was comparing it to New Rony. Are you caught up on New Rony? I'm caught up on New Rony.

Who are you responding to? Well, I thought the Jenna when her comment about her glasses fogging up from it being cold was really funny. She's funny and she's a little awkward and there's some things that aren't housewife when her comment about her glasses fogging up from it being cold was really funny. Yeah, she is funny. She's funny and she's a little awkward and there's some things that aren't housewife-like about her,

which I think is interesting, you know? So I'm responding to her. She's, of course, the star of the show now at this point. I think that Brynn is, of course, going to be great. You know, she's kind of hasn't been like much this past episode. She was absent the last time. but enjoy her.

I like when she asked why Jenna got a free pass and Aaron was like, I guess I like her more or whatever. I like Aaron. Yeah,

Aaron's a good, I think she's gonna be a good, not villain, but you know, she's gonna be confrontational. She is the one that arrives on screen

outside of Jenna. Aaron is the one that arrives on screen and pops the most yeah like i i think that she she's very dropped in and like she she to me gives new york in a way where it doesn't seem like she gives a fuck i think this season is going to be interesting i think by the end we'll see real personalities out of them all but right now i'm getting two to three personalities, real authentic people who are also TV characters and the rest are still figuring things out. Yeah, I think so.

And I think things take time. I don't really judge a season based on the first two, three episodes. You know, it's very early. I think we need five or six to kind of sort out how things are going to play out. But right now I would say people who I can see actually being players in the show would be Jenna, Brynn, Aaron. Yeah.

The whites. The whites. I do like the non-whites. Wait, I'm so sorry. I did not mean to make it about this. I was like on side until this episode where she was like, oh, God, you'm so sorry. I did not mean to make it about this. But I was like, eh, on Psy until this episode where she was like, oh, God, you guys like going to the dollar store?

You guys clearly didn't grow up poor. And then that like opened up her narrative. And I was like, that's... I like Psy. I like her now. Here's my thing. I like them all. I like Uba.

I think she has to... I think we're about to see her open up in a way. Like the coming attractions for next week. Coming attractions. The preview for next week. Like, I'm at the drive-in the coming attractions what's gonna happen

with Uba on the big screen like so next week Uba is looks like she cries and breaks down we love that and I'm like when are we gonna see

the core of Uba guess what what I ordered Uba hot oh yeah what's Uba hot oh Bowen Uba owns a hot sauce business. Oh, I love.

Called Uba Hot. I'm getting some. So, okay, here's what I'll do. When it comes to me, I will bring it and we'll do a live tasting. Oh, smart. That's good. Maybe that should be on our additional episodes. Yes. Uba Hot Tastes. Uba Hot Tastes. Uba Hot Tastes. Oh, my God. So, she's got, like, an acclaimed

hot sauce line. It comes in three flavors. Oh, I love it. Yeah, I'm forgetting exactly what they are, but like they're here. I'm actually going to Google it because I'm actually of hot sauce culture. You are of hot sauce culture. I love to watch the show Hot Ones.

Okay, so there's Habanero Hot, Fresno Mild, and Serrano Medium, which kind of is just three different temperatures. Okay. But I like that. It's an African gem. Uba hot is a hot sauce that can be used to make any meal delicious.

It adds flavor and brings a sensational taste of Africa to your palate. Our dream is for you to enjoy Uba hot with all your senses. Love and spicy sauce. All my senses. What do you think you're going to try it with? And so about Uba, it says,

I have a passion for good food and beautiful things. That's her about? At a very young age, my mother taught me that life should be experienced with all our senses. We're sort of getting a theme here. This sort of is hot sauce, but in five dimensions. Yeah. Does that make sense? How many dimensions are there?

It depends on the theory. The max is 10. 10? Yeah. Talk about that. The max number of dimensions. Well, you can look it up. I'm not the best person to explain it.

You're not an expert? Like, so one dimension is like... What do we call this? Quantum physics? Yeah, it gets into string theory. But again, I'm not an expert on this at all. All I know is that I love five-dimensional stuff because it's like, that's like,

I think that's when like time travel starts to happen. You learned this from Oppenheimer. From Oppenheimer, I did. When I walked out, I learned. When I walked out, instead of,

instead of watching, watching Flo's nips go up. Each of our products has an extraordinary mouth-watering flavor and is named after a precious gemstone, ruby,

strength, inspired by my two fellow Virgo nieces whose love has given me strength. Two Virgo nieces? That's given me strength two Virgo nieces then there's yellow tantalite rare and special

inspired by my beloved mother and my roots the one who taught me to see the good in everyone and finally emerald honorable inspired by my favorite

quote by Marcus Aurelius whatever anyone does or says I must be emerald and keep my color I know you will love Uba hot as much as I do

as it was created to make moments in life bold, delicious, and spicy. Love and hot sauce Uba. I like Uba too. I like Uba. I like Uba even more now. Yeah. Now that she's like a hot sauce connoisseur, who knew? Who knew? Gotta get her on Hot Ones. I think that what we need

is Uba on Hot Ones, but I think if we're gonna get a real housewife on Hot Ones, unfortunately it is going to be Bethany. Yeah. She's the most famous. Did you see Bethany's insane Insta story eating crawfish and shellfish? I'm fascinated. It was really wild. I've never, it's interesting to

see someone like her film themselves. I think from housewives get used to being filmed all the time and now can't stop filming herself or something. Because the most, it's like, I feel like it's constantly being an opinion about whatever she's got,

but it's near constant filming of herself. Bethany is interesting to me because I've had this thought, and tell me if this is like a stupid, unsophisticated thought, not that it matters, but like on TikTok, the this is like a stupid, unsophisticated thought, not that it matters, but like on Tik TOK, the aesthetic is always for me as I'm watching her. I'm like,

she has lost her mind. And then she'll go on like the today show and talk to Hoda and Jenna. And I'm like, she's the most composed. She's the queen of England. She's the most composed woman. She knows exactly what her, like she knows how to talk to these women.

I wonder if TikTok, she just thinks that works for her, you know? Did you see when she made that salad and it was all celery? Yes.

And I've seen her like eat tuna raw out of the can, raining tuna. Well, cool down because I like that. And it was sick and nasty.

I'm saying I've done that but to see her do that and film it on TikTok is shocking. I haven't yet filmed myself eating raw tuna out saying I've done that, but to see her do that and film it on TikTok is shocking. I haven't yet filmed myself eating raw tuna. That's what I'm saying. She basically made a salad that was diced cherry tomatoes, chopped celery, and like mayo with lemon.

Yeah, tuna salad. That's why they call it tuna salad. That's why they call it tuna salad. And I'm watching her eat this and I'm thinking there's been a break something's happened the joke's on us and the dollars in her bank account

because here we are talking about her, making her money by the way, I guess she's also iHeartPodcast she's an iHeartPodcast and we love her, listen to the show it's really good stuff iHeart encourages intrashow antagonizing they want us to fight amongst each other podcast. And we love her. I love that. Listen to the show. It's really good stuff. I Heart encourages intra-show antagonizing.

They do? They want us to fight amongst each other. Oh yeah, big time. It's like Super Smash Brothers. If they, if Nintendo, if you make a Super Smash I Heart radio edition. And we'd be like the ice climbers. We'd be like the ice climbers. Because I don't want to fight you.

But you and I fighting, you know, Nikki Glaser. I love that. I would pay to see it. We love you, Nikki. We would never fight you. Only in a video game. Only in a video game where you can actually get hurt. Should we do some cards?

Yeah. Let's do some cards. Oh my God. The host of the show over here. All right. All right. I'm sorry. I'm my boss.

So how does it work? Not to recess with house. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild

night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You've told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on CityTV+. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations.

I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened,

I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999,

a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. Looked like a little angel. I mean, he looks so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.

Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.

Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the My Cultura podcast network available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How does this work? How does this work? Okay, so I got these cards

when I was seven years old. My aunt was a Reiki healer and energy healer. And she gave me to these when I was young so that I would always have my energy on them. I was going to say, that's why they're falling apart. They're falling apart. So basically, these don't tell you your future. They actually just read your present energy. So it's not going to be able to tell you what will I do and da, da, da.

It's about answering questions now to lead you to answers about your own life. So, you know, a question you could ask, I'll give you some examples so that you can think about this. Also, if you want, you can privately think the question, but it might be-

I don't think that would be good for the podcast. No. Okay, yeah. So, can we tell the cards? I listened to All Too Well 10-minute version two times this morning. I think that would be good for the podcast. No. Okay, yeah. So. Can we tell the cards? I listened to All Too Well 10-minute version two times this morning. That's where I'm at. Okay. So basically, like, what do I need to move through this emotional imbalance I'm having?

Could be a question. Or what should I focus on in life to be happier? Or et cetera, et cetera. Okay, I have it. So ask me the question, and I'll help you re-navigate the question, re-tool it for the cards. You're going to shuffle them, lay them out, pick three,

and then we'll go over them together. Okay. You want to go first? You go first. Okay. We already have a sense of your state. I'm shuffling them? You're shuffling them. Okay. So I to go first? You go first. Okay. You, you, you, you, we already have a sense of your state. Am I shuffling them?

You're shuffling them. Okay. So I'm shuffling. And should I sort of ask my question? You should ask your question out loud. Okay. To the cards and the astral guides and, and house.

I want to know how do I release fixations and negative thoughts that aren't serving me anymore. I want to move forward in a genuine, real way without fixation on the past and ways in which I've been treated unfairly and move forward with compassion for myself instead of what is happening. Okay. So keep thinking, and when you're ready, lay the cards out, and when you're ready, lay the cards out,

and then you'll pick three. All right. We'll think of the answer. You've had these since you were seven? Mm-hmm. That's really beautiful. I'm ready. And now I'm going to lay them out, and I'm going to go like this.

Yep. What I'm doing, readers, is I'm spreading the cards out like this, and now I'm to pick three that are calling out to me. Yep. Take your time, Tasia. Okay. Take your time, Tasia. By the way, we saw the trailer for Color Purple, the movie

musical during the Barbie movie yesterday. That looks good. Okay, I pick this one's calling out to me because it almost fell off the table so there's one. This one's making itself known to me and I'm going to say

the final card that I would like to pick out is and I'm going to sort of go left with myself here it's this one because it was on top okay those are my three cards okay so these cards are basically your guides

we'll go over the theme of each card and then we'll try and find a little narrative for you between the three. Got it. It's a little storytelling. Pleasure. Can we show it to the camera? Yeah.

Okay. Pleasure. Divine goddess. Fulfillment, abundance, satisfaction, contentment. The divine goddess smiles upon you, urging you to step into her luscious and beautiful garden and drink from her well of vitality and joy. Relax, have fun, and allow the good times to roll. Life is to be enjoyed, not endured. Whether it's

a fun day at the beach or a rousing sexual romp with your lover, the divine goddess reminds you that there's nothing holy, superior, or righteous in resisting pleasure or hiding your beauty. She stepped into your life to remedy the sad fact that you're not taking joy in much of anything of late and have lost touch with some of your inner beauty. Life has become black and white and shades of gray, and you're missing color. She advises you not to postpone your wards until you're in heaven. Instead, she encourages you to enjoy a little heaven on earth. Indulge your soul in some delicious food, good friends, great music, and playful fun.

Use her sparkle to inspire you to embellish your environment, redecorate, whatever will make you happy. This is a harvest for you. It's a time of abundance and flow. It's time for you to share your beauty with others and be generous. Don't fret about overindulging or getting carried away. Get used to the beautiful life and consider it your birthright to dance in the divine goddess's garden. Her question to you is, how good can you stand it? I think I need to order a glass dildo.

How do we get there? Let's finish the cards before we get there. Yeah, yeah. Let's get the narrative, honey. Compromise. Master teacher. Master teacher. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay. So I have so far pleasure and master teacher master teacher oh my god okay okay so i have so far pleasure and master

teacher compromise your master teacher is reminding you that nothing is entirely good or bad even people and that every person has their own version of reality which may not necessarily agree with yours instead of feeling wronged by those who refuse to submit to your point of view, give up your righteous and rigid demands and broaden your perspective to include the interests of those you struggle with now. Mentally move toward the center and open your mind. Although it's easy to feel indignant and defensive as you've dealt with the current impasse, the truth is no one is trying to harm you right now. Instead, your detractors are simply supporting their own interests and priorities,

which are different than yours. Rather than reacting emotionally to their resistance, strive to understand and work to be fair. Your master teacher's message for you, accept that your interests are no more or no less important than those of the people around you. The only way for you to progress to higher ground is

to compromise. Okay. Interesting. That is interesting. Celebration. Celebration. Joy guide. Which, by the way, these are really positive cards. Yeah, it seems positive. There's death in there.

Yeah, I don't want that. There's suffering. You got an incredibly positive reading. No, the cards are giving Hot Girl Summer. And you are having, for the most part, I would say, a joyful time, even though there are moments of hardship. Yeah, I'm just... Sorry, I don't mean to... No you know, hardship. Yeah, I'm just, yeah.

Sorry, I don't mean to. No, it's okay. Final card. Okay. You're entering a period of great expansion. Your joy guides are at hand, ushering you into a season of abundance, celebration, and hospitality. You're loved and accepted and trusted by those around you. This is a time when life gives back.

You may become engaged, get married, get a promotion, land a deal, or just get a long-awaited lucky break. Whatever you desire, your joy guides are urging you to prepare for because it's coming. Realize that as life's tides turn your way, the soon-to-become realized positive flow of events isn't just a fluke or an accident or the luck of the draw. Rather, it's the natural outcome of your unwavering efforts, your commitment to your dreams and goals, your joy guide's message, plan for the party.

You're going to soon have a reason to celebrate. Oh my God, I love my reading. I know. Yes, this all feels very right to me. So how good can you stand it? How good can you stand it? Whoa, that's like really good. That's a rule of culture number eight.

How good can you stand it? So I think, you know, I think it's pretty clear, the reading. I don't know if we, it doesn't seem like anyone's confused here. I would say that for you, the one thing it seems like it's asking, the compromise is probably going to be the hardest part. But it seems like if you can reach that within yourself, you're in such a period of joy that that is the blockage for you. And it feels like when you finally can make that peace, you're already in this really brilliant new era. It's a compromise within the self.

Yeah, because only I can make the decision. Oh, but this is all you. You know, this is a battle between you and yourself. You're right. There's nothing in those cards that's like, and no one's holding you back. These cards aren't about anybody else. Yeah, you're right. And all they do is read your energy. So it's only

telling you what you already know and what you know is that this is hard for you right now. Pleasure. Divine Goddess. I mean, it was talking about, you know, eat good food, be with friends, dance a little. We did all that on Saturday. And we've been doing that. And also, I'm about

to have a very fun August in time, and this is great. Good reading. We've been doing that. And also, I'm about to have a very fun August in time. And this is great. Good reading. Good reading. Good reading. Good reading. And now it'll be Bowen Yangster. Oh, I don't know.

I feel like this might be tonally different. No. It's going to be very positive. I might get some of the darker ones. No. That's okay. You know what? I don't want to see death.

Well, we might. But if you do get death, death is about the ending of something. Yes. And that's a positive too in many ways. For many people, the end is the best way to start something new. Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. You have to end to begin. That's so true.

That's a rule of culture. That's actually a rule. He was so stripped by me. It's rule of culture number 75. You have to end to begin. Did you do your question? Oh, I'm so sorry. I'll do the question and then I'll do the question and shuffle for a bit.

Put your energy on the cards. My question is, what are the means by which I can connect to all the parts of myself? I feel like my struggle lately has been sort of a disparate evaluation of like me. And I feel very fragmented. And how do I make it all whole again? Yeah. And how do I do that? Yeah.

Okay. That's a great question. Great. Oh, my spread. Girl. That's okay. It's what it's meant to be. It's what it's meant to be.

Okay. It's meant to be cluttered. Okay. Okay. What's calling out to me? Only you can answer. Yes. Yes.

Yes. I was going to say her. That's correct. That's the one good card. That's all. That's fine. That one too, baby. Pick it out.

Put it on the table. Last one. Here we go. Number three. Don't mess this up. Don't mess this up. This is the big decision. This three. Don't mess this up. Don't mess this up. This is a big decision. This one.

There are three cards on the table. Three cards laid before me. First one, discontent. Let me see. Discontent. Muses. Muses. The muses.

My muses are a little, you know. You know. Every reading has their own lesson. This is a dark card. There are ghosts and phantoms and I don't like that. Some snakes. Okay, but I actually think this card has a lot to teach. Okay.

Okay. So are we listening? We're ready. Okay. Sooner or later in our evolutionary process, each of us begins to realize that it's not the having that fulfills our souls, but it's the act of creating that brings us satisfaction.

Contentment and what we've created, no matter how grand, inevitably subsides, and our creative juices get stagnant and long to flow. That's why the once ideal partner ceases to mesmerize, the perfect job eventually becomes mundane, and the great adventure becomes tedious. Although there's a lot to be said for enjoying what we have now,

we must nevertheless respect the fact that our basic nature as creative beings is to create. Without the process, we can't be fully content, at least not for long. Your muses are present and they're calling on you now to embrace your creative discontent and undertake new projects. Their message to you is see your frustration as a longing to learn more, expand more,

dare more and create more. I got to get a glass dildo. I got to get a glass dildo. I gotta get a glass dildo. Dildo, mama. You made a joke because you know it's true. No, it's so true. Oh my god, I can't believe I drew this. And that's why you made the joke that you made. No, no, no, no, no. Okay, second card.

Deceit. Deceit. Deceit. This is actually gorgeous. I love... Guardian angels. Okay, I know This is actually gorgeous. I love to see it. This is Guardian Angels. Okay, I know this card has a lot to teach. Okay, I think this is a teaching card as well.

This is actually one of my favorite cards. I'm at a teaching hospital. Just get that and see. It's too funny. Well, you know, when you're doing two readings and one person gets one. I knew I was gonna get the dark one.

I love it. Let's keep going. Okay. Your guardian angels are present, alerting you to the fact that all isn't as it appears. Pay close attention to what's going on around you

and within you. You'll notice that vibes are in the air. You'll notice that vibes are in the air. Now you'll notice. Your guardian angels remind you that your own treachery and deceit are subtle and difficult to see. After all,

no one wants to believe they can or someone might hurt them. Sometimes it's a deliberate attempt. Other times it's an act of self-protection at your own expense. Deceit and manipulation need not be maliciously intended to occur or be damaging. Often it's just the result of thoughtlessness or fear. Your guardian angels urge you to trust your vibes completely when it comes to your suspicions

of yourself and others. Please equally scrutinize your own deceptions. Either case leads to dead ends and disappointing outcomes. Ask your angel guides to protect you from your own deceits. Have the courage and integrity to be honest with yourself.

Your guardian angel's message right now is, we will watch over you. Now, are they my muses too? Your guardian angels? My guardian angels. No, you got muses and guardian angels. Your muses are saying, create, create, create. Well, then my guardian angels are saying,

don't trust the muses. No, no, that's not what they're saying. I don't think. We'll get to the narrative. We'll get to the narrative. We haven't even gotten to the end yet. How can you make a narrative? Balance.

Wow. Period. And now all of a sudden it makes sense. Period. And now what's this say? Divine teachers. Divine teachers. We both have teachers in ours.

You are good students, I find. Not me, not as good as Bowen. No, but still. I got very distracted. You're back, but I was trying to be nice. I was a good test taker. You're in the delicate process of learning how to properly balance the flow of give and take in your personal relationships.

And it's time to evaluate. Are you giving too much, leaving you resentful and angry? Or are you withholding when you could give more, leaving you feeling guilty and defensive? Your divine teachers can help you learn how to better align your relationships so that you neither give nor take too much as a means of controlling others. They counsel you to be honest about your motivations when dealing with others. You know in your heart of hearts what drives you. Do you create dependency in and control or do you withhold for fear that you might be taken advantage of, keeping people

guessing? Your divine teachers are on hand to help you answer these questions. They lovingly assure you that relationships are the most difficult of all spiritual classrooms and the lessons of proper give and take are the most difficult skills to learn. Have compassion for yourself as you seek balance. Ask your divine teachers to help you become more aware of how you give and receive in all relationships, not just the romantic kind. Their message to you, there's no difference between giving and receiving love. I love it. I am creating my own suspicion in the deceit by an imbalance of give and take.

And that is all fueled by a discontent with In your creative life. present situation in creative life and in stagnant endeavors. What do you see here what do you see sorry i i want to know well i do think it's interesting i find that when i do these there is always this and you can create it yourself so whatever but there is always a little narrative between first second and third and you know you do choose as it is. But I do think that like for me, the first one is it's saying this is a core issue that is going on that is causing this fragmentation.

Yeah. Seems like that is what the answer is for that. And then it's almost giving you these sort of backup reasons of why that's happening and it's this deceit is i find it's always self-deceit when these cards are being used and it's always almost um usually when people get the card they know immediately what it is that they're saying to themselves or or whatever self-deceit they have and then to get the balance of, you know, relationships and stuff is sort of interesting because then that relates to the deceit too.

It's sort of saying like these relationships, you know, I'm having da-da-da, I'm not seeing myself clearly in these and it's all a larger sign of creativity. You have to listen to yourself. You have to trust creativity. You have to listen to yourself. You have to trust yourself. You have to trust your insights. Thank you. No, but I thought that was really good reading.

Well. Do you feel like you got any clarity? A little bit. A little bit. Yes. But I think I'm like working myself out of. I'm getting to the last one, which is the balance. I'm like I'm inching closer towards

this to get out of this. Which no problem. I love it. Well and this is kind of more closer to the present I would say. It's the third card whereas this is past order. What was your third

card? Celebration. Celebration. Yes. We'll be celebrating. We'll be celebrating and balancing. And we are celebrating. And we are celebrating. I mean, I feel very hopeful about the future. I think that it's the halfway, well, it's not the halfway

point of the year, but sometimes it feels like at least end of summer, like sort of my summer is just starting and then through fall and the winter is always when I feel like things are the most difficult and then they get so much better for some reason like narratively like my years always get better at the end of them maybe it's because I have like a routine thing that I do every year but um it's hard now when there's like so much less routine than there's ever been because we're all not working and stuff. But maybe

this like time of having like more solitariness and like less filling up is an opportunity to achieve this balance card. You know what I mean? Who does know? Who does know? I'm telling you. Who can say? I do think that I

always think of September as a new beginning just because school starts. And for so long, you were kind of like in that mode. And so I always think of like, I like the back half of the year. Like I like later summer into fall into winter. Like that's where I rev my engine. Really? You know what I said out loud the other day for the first time? And I felt very like, like almost like, actually, you know what I'm going to do?

I don't think so, honey. This is amazing segue. I don't think so, honey. This is amazing segue. I don't think so, honey. This is, this is really good. Our segment where we take one minute to go off on something in culture that's really grinding our gears.

Matt Rogers is struck by some inspiration. I'm really excited to do this. I love this. Because I believe it. This is Matt Rogers' I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey, summer.

Oh. And it's fine to say it. Okay. It's too fucking hot. I don't Think So Honey. Time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey Summer. And it's fine to say it. It's too fucking hot. I don't want to be out in the sun that's that baking hot, especially not during global boiling, which we're in. It's not global warming anymore, honey. It's global boiling.

The whales are beaching themselves. They can't take it. I saw a clip today, an otter was trying to steal a surfboard. The girls are going crazy in the water. Why? Because it's heating up. And I'll tell you what else is heating up.

Me, too much. I want to be inside in the air conditioning. I don't think so, honey, if you don't have air conditioning in the year of our Lord, 2023. I went out on a date with a guy. He said, I don't have air conditioning. I said, that might be a deal breaker right there. Because you want to know why? I don't think so, honey.

Summer. And one of the things you need, and they're actually saying it's no longer a luxury it's a necessity it's air conditioning so i don't think so honey summer i do think so honey the fall i do think so honey the winter catch me then and i do think so honey the spring five seconds otherwise i'm uncomfortable the humidity the dryness both of you i don't think so, honey. That's one minute. I don't like summer. Too hot. But you do. No, I don't! Okay, all right. I don't!

I'm sorry, I wasn't, I'm sorry. I enjoy my powder. I enjoy friendships, dancing, and more. I think you're being a little deceitful to yourself. And I don't think so much summer. I have to trust my vibe. The vibes are in the air. The vibes are in the air. The vibes are in the air.

When your card said that there were vibes in the air, I really felt that. And it's not a lie. Vibes are in the air, always. You know what I like to do with my girls during the summer? Vibes? Happy hour. Love.

I will say right now, and the day we're recording this, this week is spectacular weather in New York City. We're going out for happy hour after this. Of course. Let's go. Of quirks. Of're going out for happy hour after this. Of course. Let's go. Of corks. Of corks.

Yes, of corks. Oh my God. You know, the birth of the X of corks was the very first day that we met house. Wow. Oh, it was the L.A.

I don't think so. Honey, when you iconically did your I don't think so honey on Jennifer Garner. I gaze who stand Jennifer Garner. Oh, it was gaze. Who's I don't think so.

Any gaze. Who's the Jennifer Garner? And I think my favorite bit was that is your favorite dessert meringue. Yeah, it was Gaze who's... I don't think there's any Gaze who's the Jennifer Garner. And I think my favorite bit was that, is your favorite dessert meringue? Oh, yeah. That was good, House. Thank you. Although she's making a comeback. You be careful. That was years ago.

That was years ago. I wouldn't do that now. Alright. This is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey The Art World. I'm just trying to get a couple paintings for my new apartment and why is it the most expensive thing ever created why is it so expensive i i believe in compensating artists i believe in paying for a piece of art i will pay an inappropriate amount of money. But some of these price points are actually psycho.

And I'm not paying $50,000 for a little jade horse. Mama, jade is one of those things that my sister, and I have said this all the time, my sister especially, she goes, jade is one of those gemstones that really only Asian people care about. And so therefore, you have to price it in a way that's not so exclusive.

Make it so, because the market is already small. It's already going to be something where like, I don't want to pay that much money for it. These prices would make you, you guys know me, you guys know that I kind of dish out cash for things in an unreasonable way. I pay some of these paintings I go, not in a

million years. And that's one minute. Jade. Didn't Gwyneth Paltrow say you got to put a jade egg up your vagina? Did she ruin it? Did she ruin jade for Asians? I think she did because what she was doing was she was trying to stimulate the, I think, the vagina, the tissue to help re-lubricate. Right. I'm sure that was expensive.

Well, then this is the thing. Like, I've never, like, jade is ours. You know what I mean? And now I can't even get jade off the fucking streets. So what is this? You're, like, looking to populate your new apartment? I just have some walls that I want to, like... I have some big walls, let's just say.

I heard that about you. I just want... I heard Bowen Young's got big walls. I got big walls. Sugar walls. Sugar walls. Tastes like cream. Tastes like cream?

I heard this. I hope so. I hope your walls are so big. Pure for Men makes a nice cream for your walls. Really? Yeah. And I have gotten compliments. I've had the coffee sugar.

Not the coffee. I've used the butt bomb. Yes, it's called the Stay Ready Cream. This is not sponsored butt bomb. Yes, it's called the Stay Ready Cream. This is not sponsored, by the way, but it's the Stay Ready Cream. But it really could be. I've done the Stay Ready Cream.

And people are like, that's nice. Yeah, that is nice. I like the butt bomb a lot. Yeah. All of Pure For Men's products. Pure For Men is really, really doing it.

I think that they found a market, they found a niche, and an audience with money, and they made a good product. Very smart. They really thought about it. They were like, of course these people

want things to make that area fresh. Yeah. Because we get self-conscious about all of it. So let's make you feel, help a girl out. Yeah, totally. Totally. And that's like the art world. The art world could really take a page from Pure For Men. The art world.

I just want to say so many wonderful people have reached out and said, I'm a dealer. I can help you out. I appreciate you. But I just want to say that the system itself seems a little broken. They're wheelers and dealers. They're wheelers and dealers. Well, they made that film about it.

Oh, yeah. Was that the one with Jake Gyllenhaal? Yeah. And they're all killers. They're killers. And that scares me. I have to trust the deceit Jake Gyllenhaal? Yeah. Yeah. And they're all killers. They're killers. And that scares me. I have to trust the deceit. The vibes are in the air.

Wow. That was about the art world. That was about... Well, you never told... If you would have told me about the art world before the reading... You should have asked the cards, Josh. I should have asked the cards. You should have been more specific about it.

The cards are yelling at you to not get finagled by the art world. Honey, these people on First Dibs are selling David Hockney prints, posters of things for like thousands of dollars. I go, not in a million years. Not a poster. If I knew who David Hockney was, I would be

appalled. Famous gay. You would love him. You would love him. We'll Wikipedia after this. Yeah. Anyway. Call me David. Call me David. Call me David. It's giving Stan Smith being like, Howard Hashman sounds cute. We have to say real quick. He sounds cute.

We have to say this real quick. We went to see Here Lies Love. Oh my God. I can't believe we didn't talk about Here Lies Love. And it was great. It was amazing. We had such a great time. But Matt didn't know.

The Marcos's. Didn't know. And so he was like cheering when they won the election. I didn't know the Marcoses. Didn't know the story. And so he was like cheering when they won the election. I didn't know who Imelda Marcos was. I thought she, I actually thought she was a pop star. So the Marcoses won the election and then Matt's like, woo, and then I give him a look like, no.

I found out she was a dictator. And it really bummed him out. I know, but she's, you know, she's got nice clothes. So it's tough. It's so hard when these women have nice clothes. It's hard. You want to hard when these women have nice clothes. It's hard. You want to support women even when they're dictators, I find. As a gay man, I want to support women.

Evita. Evita was a big fan until I heard out she was a singer. Maleficent. Maleficent. Big fan. Ursula. Big fan because they look interesting. They look interesting.

They're funny. They're funny. This is your I Don't Think So Honey house. Are you ready? Okay. All right. This is Patrick Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now.

I Don't Think So Honey going to a restaurant with more than four people. Oh! First of all, I hate to see the look of a waiter look like, oh, God, am I going to have to deal with this all night? Ten of your best gay friends and you all order espresso martinis. Well, guess what, y'all? It's going to take us 45 minutes to get a beverage now. Period.

It is so annoying. I don't care about Splitwise. I don't care about Venmo. What I care about is I can't hear anything anyone is saying at a restaurant where there's 10 people around the table. You can't get a drink. You can't get your food on time.

You can't hear anyone. I'm like, huh? What? I already have a hearing problem. Restaurants are supposed to be intimate dining food experiences. And when you're with so many people, you do not get that. You're wasting the experience. Even five is too many because you're not connecting.

You're not saying, hi, how are you? How was your week? And so that's why if you see me at the restaurant, it will be four or less. Trust that. Trust that. Whatever happened to hi?

How are you? Whatever happened to hi? How are you? Customer service. Customer service. Whatever happened to customer service? Here's what I'd say.

I've been to dinner with more than four people. I've been to dinner with less. I always enjoy it with less. I agree. I hadn't thought about this. And also that moment when the waiter comes over, he sees a bunch of gays and you understand.

And it's not even like they know the gays tip well and stuff like that. It's like, can I do a dirty martini? Can I do it on the rocks? Can I get three olives with blue cheese? But that's 13 people now. And so then he has to get all those drinks out at the same time. They have two bartenders behind there. So then the two bartenders have to make 13 drinks come

out at once for your table when there's 40 other tables. It is pure mathematical nightmare. I do the same thing that you're doing right now, which is I also have been restaurant industry in my past and I get stressed out when I know something is annoying. Like, for example, splitting checks. I always know it's annoying. I always know it's annoying.

I always know it's annoying when someone orders like that thing. You know what I mean? I always know it's annoying when people are like, just bring it out whenever it's ready to come out. That's like literally not how it works. So I understand. And it's manageable with four or less. You will have a great experience.

So true. I think dining, I love it with two. I find I connect really. I love to have a sensuous meal with someone and enjoy the conversation. And that could be three people and that could be four. But it should be an intimate experience. Yes. Agreed. Yes.

You know, it's a great date night. It's great connecting with close friends. It should not be your birthday of 20. No. Sorry. Because guess what? All 20 people are going to have a complicated order because be your birthday of 20. No. Sorry. Because guess what? All 20 people are going to have

a complicated order because we're all the same. Yes. Go to karaoke instead. Go to karaoke. Go see Oppenheimer. Go see Oppenheimer. No.

And that's where we end the podcast because I'm not having that. The energy suddenly became we've been here for two hours and that's how you know that true friends have been talking.

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We basically previewed UbaHot taste test. Yes. We introduced readers to House, which was a long time coming. Huge moment. and we connected with each other like no one could at a dinner with more than the people in this room and that includes Donnie that includes Bahid

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