Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Brownheart Like Braveheart" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: September 7, 2022

It's time to catch up with the culture, the drama, the too-online mess we have all been watching happen before our internet eyes! Firstly, Matt and Bowen bring the truth to this episode by breaking do...wn humiliation in Iceland to humiliation in Fire Island. Plus the Lea Michele illiteracy rumors (who believes what?!), the Leo DiCaprio break up rumors, Maren Morris' fuck you to the transphobic trolls, beautiful Icelandic horses with perfect gait, Florence Pugh's film festival fits, the heatest of waves, and of course, much more! Get into IT! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo, or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?
Starting point is 00:00:43 Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.
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Starting point is 00:02:17 culture? Yes. Oh, yeah. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. High level of brownouts today in LA. So if I melt down, just blame Mother Nature. Oh no. You hate to hear that. She is soaring. The temperatures are in the triple digits. LA is under attack by heat.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Period. By heat. Ain't that the story? I'm going to be there in a few days and I'm not really looking forward to it. Bring your skimpiest clothes because honey, you are going to want to be very prepared for the heat. I just came from Palm Springs. My brain is cooked. Tell me how your LDW was. Such a good LDW. I spent a lot of time in my favorite locale, the Ace Hotel Pool. I was sort of like, you know, vibing as they say.
Starting point is 00:03:07 And I thought if this was heaven, I would say period. Period. Yes. If this is heaven, honey, install the pearly gates. I don't see them. Boo. Cut to me with a frozen Paloma, salt or tahini rim. At Tropicale?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Well, we haven't even made it to Tropical yet. And you know we went to Tropical. See me sitting by the pool. Frozen Paloma, salt or tahini rim. Depending on which one of the binary you want that day. And then sipping with your legs in the damn water. Watching
Starting point is 00:03:39 flops just like flop around. The strangers of it all. The characters you meet. Yeah. If that's heaven, sign me up for heaven. Sign me up for heaven. Subscribe,
Starting point is 00:03:51 subscribe to heaven. I, I love you. What I, I know it's a place you love to go. Would you say that you are, you know, Ross Matthews level sort of Morgan McMichael's level Palm Springs.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I can't claim it as a zip code yet. But I do know that I will end up at the Tropical Bar, a completely other shade other than I am now because of baking in the sun at some point. Let's say when I get to 65, 66, I'll move out there. You'll be in the outdoor area.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah, post up in that outdoor area where it's very OC out there. Oh, speaking of which, we literally saw Vicki Gunvalson there that one time, right? I was just going to say, this was before she was like a sort of figure to us, but she was really very
Starting point is 00:04:35 central in the restaurant. She was sat very visibly. Yeah. She was really living her tropical fantasy. You and I had such opposite weeks, I would say, and such opposite
Starting point is 00:04:47 climes, climates, you know. Well, tell us about your climb, Miley Cyrus. Well, here's the climb,
Starting point is 00:04:53 okay? And can we say, it's a rule of culture, it's the climb. It's the climb. It's a rule of culture number 30. It's the climb.
Starting point is 00:05:01 It's the climb. Period. I was working in Iceland and it was one of, it was a life-changing experience okay so i do have to come out and tell come out now i have to tell the readers a story that um really deals with shame oh my god you're gonna do this i'm gonna do this because i talked about in therapy i told you you were the one of the first people i told i support this 100 and i want you to go off now queen okay queen this
Starting point is 00:05:25 is truly the honesty zone it's crossed over into the pod period the honesty zone is indefinitely canceled but every now and then we'll bring it to las culturistas okay now i had a day of work where we started out at a waterfall one of of the many waterfalls, gorgeous waterfalls in Iceland. Had a day starting out there. Just couldn't believe what I was seeing. Was like, wow, I'm very lucky to be working, period. I'm lucky to be working in this environment. Wow, what a life.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Well, you were having one of the best days of your life. Yeah. To say nothing of the animals that you met along the way. Well, I was gonna say, next stop was the Laxness Horse Farm, one of the famous horse farms in Iceland. Ben Stiller was just there
Starting point is 00:06:13 riding one of the Icelandic horses about a week ago. Huge star. Huge star. Director, even. Huge A-list actor-director. Emmy-nominated director. Best of luck to him. Best of luck to him. Best of luck to him. At the big show.
Starting point is 00:06:28 At the big show. And got to ride an Icelandic horse, which, it's crazy. It's horse eugenics, because the Icelandic horses can't leave. Oh, no, I'm sorry. No other horses can enter Iceland. And if an Icelandic horse leaves Iceland for any reason,
Starting point is 00:06:43 it cannot come back. I'm sorry is this spiritual no it's not spiritual it's i think it's just like uh because all the icelandic horses are purebred horses they're between the size of a pony and like a full-on mare so basically they don't want any fuckery with other horses not of Iceland because it could fuck up. It's for diseases. It's for disease reasons, mostly. Period.
Starting point is 00:07:10 But, you know, sort of when I say it, it sounds like eugenics and it's unfortunate. It did sound like that when you said it. Most horses, I think 99% of horses only have four walks, four gates, right? Icelandic horses have a fifth gate, a fifth walk. They were given a little bit more. God must have spent a little more time on them. On you. You.
Starting point is 00:07:35 The fifth walk is a trot. It's called a tolt in Icelandic. And I was shown a video of my horse handler riding this horse bareback while holding a full glass of beer. Picture your favorite beer filled to the brim. And you're holding it to the side while you're on an Icelandic horse that is galloping at such a steady clip and at such a steady level way that the beer, not a drop of beer is spilling out. Oh my God. isn't that amazing that is so incredible and so what happened i'm telling you matt you would have loved this i'm i'm wrapped right now and it really is you were truly in a different environment than me you sort
Starting point is 00:08:18 of in the mountains with the horses me in the pool with the Palm Springs residents. Like this is a tale of two cities that I've, that I've ever heard, ever heard, never heard a tale of two cities like this, like this. Now I was having, as you said, one of the best days of my life.
Starting point is 00:08:36 And I even told you this when I, you did, you reached out to say that when I prefaced the story that I'm about to tell the readers to you, I said, this was one of the best days of my life. I thought I'm so lucky to be experiencing these experiences. And then at one point, it's a new deal.
Starting point is 00:08:53 They're turning the cameras at the horse farm. I have a costume on that is five layers, both top and bottom. I have crazy layers. The sound guy, Kirtan, puts a crazy rig on me with the wire, just the wire behind me. So, you know, a sound person will typically put the microphone, tape it to your clothing, around your decollete, your
Starting point is 00:09:14 neck. I'm just, you're a showbiz legend. You're very seasoned in the business and the ways of set life. I'm aware of where the mic is placed. We can just say it like that. We don't have to say too much of this verbiage. I know where the mic's going. It's true. It's too early to say legend in my career, I think.
Starting point is 00:09:28 You have to wait a couple years. Jennifer Lewis herself said that you have the it factor. We'll get to that later because I have things to say about that episode because it was truly one of the best interviews, conversations I've been privileged to listen to. More on that later. That's not true, Alan, but continue with your story legend. The wire gets looped behind my back and typically, you know, they put the mic pack on
Starting point is 00:09:50 your waist, clip it to your waist. And again, I have layers and layers and layers of clothing on me. I go to my trailer to- Relieve. Relieve, defecate, take a big step. Can I just pause for one second? The fact that relieve and defecate sort of mean the same thing, they feel so different. Like I'm stepping away to relieve myself and I'm stepping away to defecate. You're saying the same thing,
Starting point is 00:10:15 but the words you use can change everything. And it's a rule of culture number 49. The words you use can change everything. Well, defecate has some more fricative sounds. There it is again. It's so fricative. Like the cut, the foot.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It's the def-a-cate. It is letting you know something sharp, hard, and very real about life is happening. Defecate. Relieve. Just do it. Relieve sounds so meditative, sounds so natural. Defecate? That's hard. Anyway, continue, iconic friend.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I go to the bathroom in my trailer and to take down my pants, I have to sort of move my scarf, move my poncho, take off my pants, take off my thermal leggings underneath business take take
Starting point is 00:11:09 down my compression garment that's sort of like helping me snatch a little bit for camera business yeah which is which is what you know what the the costume department gave me movie magic and then movie magic the wire is still sort of mind you tautly behind me my running down my back running down to the waist of the pants which is at this point on the floor or close to the floor i'm not one of those poopers who you know and this is no shade yeah some of these people and the most iconic people let's just say are the people at public urinals, elementary school style, who put down the pants to the ankles.
Starting point is 00:11:52 Yeah, I think those are the most iconic people around. And it shows the confidence that only people out there are aspiring to. You and I have a long way to go to get to that level. Well, and also, Bowen, you have to understand, some people, they have to get fully nude to in order to pee or defecate sorry everyone for the fricking fricking word again that word fricking fricking found it sorry to these men and to these women and to anyone out there listening but those icons are wearing rompers and you can't just do whatever you want okay you can't just do
Starting point is 00:12:26 whatever you want in a romper you have to get a legend legends so true jennifer lewis it factor legend what happened next i go i turn around everything looks. I flush the toilet. I zip up. I pull up my compressions, my leggings, my pants. Yeah, you're thinking at that point, period. Period. I go, let me just re-jigger the wire a little bit, and I'm good to go. Mm-hmm. I have a huge poncho sort of draped over my ass as well.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Got it. I feel a little tug behind me as I walk out to set. We're shooting outdoors, mind you. Yeah. And I'm also in a crazy wig, color contacts. I look stupid. For the comedy of the show, Aquafina is nowhere from Queens, a very comedic show. Am I giving too much context?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Maybe. Really? What happened? I walk back to set. There's a bunch of horses all around. Crew people. Wonderful Icelandic union paid crew people. Fulfilled lives.
Starting point is 00:13:40 They're so... These people have worked on every set you can think of in Iceland. The Northmen, Halo, every Nordic noir you can imagine. They are figures of esteem and respect. Executive producer Anna is saying that she's on the end
Starting point is 00:13:53 of her seat. Okay, I'm getting there. I walk right in front of Video Village and Sasi, the iconic former model who is now our production manager, Polish German beauty, coolest girl on set at the function. Figure of esteem, respect, and great beauty. Is calling, is making restaurant reservations for the entire casting crew every night at the most exclusive places in Reykjavik.
Starting point is 00:14:20 This woman has power. This woman has seen, this woman understands. Kings, queens, legends. Kings, queens legends queens legends she's seen it all she knows she's dined with them yeah she you would think that she has not experienced much shame in her life maybe maybe that's a projection maybe maybe i'm assuming too much she was poised she turned we have not interacted too many times at this point i hear her call out my name she goes oh bowen you have um you have a little piece of paper dangling behind you i go what and before i pull up the wire to see to fish up what was caught on it because i assume it was on my wire the director peeks out from behind
Starting point is 00:15:06 Village and he decides to get involved. Who really runs the set. The director is someone who runs a film set, a TV set. Sort of is the leader. They're a figure of esteem and great power and authority.
Starting point is 00:15:21 They're a figure of respect. And if you look silly in front of them that's not great you are the jester flop period you're the jester flop period and the great clown clown square known as a film set our director the great jordan kim comes out and goes oh yeah what is that oh i fish up the wire it is a used wad of toilet paper full of brown and when you do say brown you do mean your poop your poop was all over your my defecation I've never felt everyone should. I've never felt more embarrassed in my life. Sister. Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Isn't that, is that, can you imagine a professional environment? No. Humiliating. Can you imagine a more humiliating moment? I can't let you hang out here by yourself. So I said to you, if you shared this story, that I would
Starting point is 00:16:28 share something as well. No, no, no, no, no. I had a Speedo and I ruined it when I was sick in Fire Island. I sharted in the Speedo and I had to throw it. I threw it over the ledge. I threw it over the ledge.
Starting point is 00:16:44 You littered with your shark? Matt. I did go down and get it and put it in the garbage. Just kidding. Did I? This will be one of the great questions of Las Colas Reyes. Did I go down eventually and pick up the Speedo and actually
Starting point is 00:17:00 dispose of it or did I just throw it over a ledge at Fire Island? It's not giving honesty zone if you're not being can i say something no one will ever find out the answer to this question it will be my great secret but this is the thing it's a secret for you and no you did not have to tell anybody this period well i'm saying actually i i take it back you would have to volunteer this story to someone like me your best friend and i don't judge you for it many would say my girl your girl and i would say that i there was no escaping the truth of the matter there was no escaping the shame of being in
Starting point is 00:17:43 front of all your co-workers on a set right on a foreign set with people that you are you have only started to get familiar with there is no competition at all your story is the humiliating moment of a lifetime i was simply trying to be charitable in my sharings because I feel so sad that you flopped in the clown square so hard as to be covered in your filth in front of figures of great esteem, respect,
Starting point is 00:18:14 beauty, leadership, and talent. Did I mention there were former models on this set? Polish-German legends. They had a great fortune of beauty, these people. They had a great fortune of beauty. Not I.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Well, it gets better. I don't even think I told you this part. Tell me more about it. I'm mortified and I race. Well, first of all, sweet Jordan, God bless him. A kind, effective director. A good friend of mine. Who shouldn't have seen that?
Starting point is 00:18:44 Who shouldn't have seen all that? He shouldn't have seen that, but I've known him many years and he's, you know, he good friend of mine. Who shouldn't have seen that? Who shouldn't have seen all that? He shouldn't have seen that, but I've known him for many years and he's, you know, he's wonderful. As I run away after realizing what had happened, he says to me, it happens. No.
Starting point is 00:18:57 And I, and this is what I said, staring at the ground, walking away. I go, no, it doesn't and i run back and i run i scurry back to my trailer and see that there is at least two wads of used toilet paper on the ground in the trip that i had that had come off the tail that my my little wire tail on the way over. And there are teamsters, PAs, kind of like,
Starting point is 00:19:29 who have been there all along, who probably have gone, what is that? My girl was set decorating. Period. I was props department. I was, I was giving production design.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah. Special effects. Special effects. Special effects. Practical. You were making movies this week. Bam. It was movie magic. It was movie magic.
Starting point is 00:19:53 And I walk back to my trailer and I go, oh my God, I've shat all over this set. And so I was, I could not bring myself to talk. I could not bring myself to talk about it to anyone until the last night where Sasi took us out for drinks. Legend. And then at one point I did say to Sasi, well, I was telling the story to two other people at the bar. And then Sasi was sitting next to me and she had over, she was in another conversation, but she overheard me recounting the story. And then Sasi goes, you know what, Bowen,
Starting point is 00:20:27 I'm so glad that you're like, you have a sense of humor about it now because I was so scared that I had embarrassed you so much by letting you know what was happening. And I said, no, Sasi, you did me such a favor. She goes,
Starting point is 00:20:41 I just wanted, she was like, I had to let you know before more people saw. Yeah. And she, I just wanted, she was like, I had to let you know before more people saw. Yeah. And she, I really do think she saved my life. She is a heroine. I have to say that Sasi has stepped forth and really taken
Starting point is 00:20:55 her place in the Las Culturistas canon and it is actually our honor to announce that Sasi is a winner of the Legend Award. The Las Colteristas Legend Award. And she might be nominated for more. And the nomination, the full nomination will be Sasi, the Icelandic production manager who told Bowen he had shit.
Starting point is 00:21:22 On his costume. On his costume. Yeah. I mean, she is a nominee she is a recipient of the legend award and that does not mean she has won the legend award at the culture awards but today she is or was it the icon award that we give there's the
Starting point is 00:21:39 TFR legend award there is the queendom award I think she's up for all those categories a fairy legend award. Right. There is the Queendom award. Of course, the Queendom award. I think she's up for all those categories. You're right. I think that we already have a nominations leader, but we can't announce yet.
Starting point is 00:21:54 We can't announce just yet. Just around the corner is going to be the Lost Cultures, Lost Culture Awards nominations. Just around the corner. It's going to be a category reveal first. And then at a later date we will reveal the nominees because there will be new categories and some uh some remnants of categories from last year some remnants just like what bowen was leaving all around the set
Starting point is 00:22:18 okay okay hold on and then very quickly just to cap off the story i did also tell sarah sherman and celeste yim because i was so embarrassed and i like i was on a text thread with them already you gotta tell people i think you i did i didn't know you have to own it and i texted them i was like you guys the worst thing one of the worst things that's ever happened in my life just happened to me and they go what what happened and then i told them and then sarah god bless her said you know i was just with a costume designer on a job and she was like, and she has worked with every single
Starting point is 00:22:50 actor you can think of. And she goes to Sarah, every actor, period, has shat their pants while on the job. And that is, I need to believe that in order to survive this. And here's some, just if this helps you, here's some actors.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And so when we say that every actor has shit themselves while on the job, I just wanted to name some actors and they've all shit themselves. Geena Davis, she shits herself. Jessica Chastain. The great Jessica Chastain has pooped. Tom Hanks. Tom Hanks pooped. Yes, Angela Lansbury poop pooped and she sometimes would poop
Starting point is 00:23:27 in her costume because she's an actor and every actor has done it yeah melanie linsky your sharonan has been pooping uh for several years now in big films and here's a transition for you harry styles chris pine jemma chan fl, Florence Pugh. They all shat themselves on the set of Don't Worry Darling. Yeah. And Olivia Wilde shit herself in her acting costume and her regular clothes as a director on the set. Incredible.
Starting point is 00:23:56 So it's not just exclusive to actors, it's also directors. Wow. Oh yeah. it's also directors wow wow yeah oh yeah the real housewives of new york city are back for another bite of the big apple look who it is joined by elite new friends rebecca mackoff have you ever heard of her but things could change in a new york minute she had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her?
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Starting point is 00:25:24 Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs
Starting point is 00:26:11 with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:26:45 I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude. And Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show.
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Starting point is 00:27:33 Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's talk about, should we talk about what's been happening in Venice? Did you see their fucking looks? Because Florence, she said, I'm showing up for one thing, but you get
Starting point is 00:27:53 a moment. That leg and that shoe, she was giving movie star arriving. Period. Once a year at Venice, Once a year at Venice, there is one person who cements themselves
Starting point is 00:28:09 as a legend, if they have not already, with a Valentino haute couture look that features ostrich feathers. 2018, that was Lady Gaga in that pink thing. That was Valentino. That iconic photo of Gaga at Venice, when it was raining just a little
Starting point is 00:28:25 and there was just those droplets like reflecting the flash oh my god that's one of the most beautiful photos ever taken and we also have to say becca producer becca has just like chimed in and says also the purple because the purple was amazing she showed up looking like honestly i would have accepted that as the look. As the carpet look. She literally showed up in that purple just to arrive in Venice pre-costume change. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:28:53 that was the look. I was good with it. Then this, I was like, okay. History is made. It inspired me, honestly. It's like, this is the aesthetic. I was like, I am a short legged person, and so is florence and she's making it work let's let's just say let's just pause for one second to say pidgeotto it's pidgeotto huge it's pidgeotto down and here's something about pidgeotto
Starting point is 00:29:17 pidgeotto is a is a star is an actress is a talent and is in her prime and this is what i was thinking when i was driving from palm springs today it required much of my thought i think we have a generation of these young girls these movie stars who are turning fashion zendaya gives it florence just gave it fucking timmy chalamet gives it like Like, my girl showed up, the young girl showed up backless. Completely backless. You gotta give it up.
Starting point is 00:29:52 I... It was Laura Flynn Boyle. Yeah. Countess Luanne, obviously. I have to say, you know how we've been saying for so long, like, there are no movie stars anymore, there are no real movie stars anymore. I kind of am starting to disagree with that yeah i mean i just named three
Starting point is 00:30:10 and then you think about tom holland like all these people are good they're hot they're really talented they're you know they're different than what usually gets shoved down your throat zendaya in particular, like she, to me, I think I was thinking about how she has like a one name, like she has a mononym and I'm like, yeah, you,
Starting point is 00:30:32 cause when you can give legend, give legend, legend. And that's a rule of culture. Number 100. If you can give legend, give legend, legend.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Venice is interesting. I'm excited to see The Whale. That got a great reception. It was very fun to see Brendan Fraser get emotional. It was a huge Brendan Fraser week for me, actually. Really? A lot of people are watching The Mummy this week a lot. Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Girl, The Mummy 2 was on television when we were getting ready one night in palm springs and i realized i haven't sat and watched this movie in some time rachel weiss that was a moment in screen history when she rocked that bull die and she was snatched rachel weisz is such a star. Yeah. And Mummy 2 was the moment. And that film is incredibly scary and dark. And there is a moment where a mummy sucks the life out of another guy. I was really upset and distressed by it. That's really scary. It was so scary, Bo.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I think the mummy is due for some sort of grand return in the culture. Here's something. They just refurbished the attraction in orlando okay so the mummy ride in orlando right now and things are absolutely popping off in orlando we're going we're going in january by the way do you hear about this epic universe have i told you about the epic universe yes you've told me every time have i told the readers that there's a classic monsters land with frankenstein dracula yes all that and then there's been more leaked about it and this is the rumor that the like diegetic of it like is that it's now the year 2022 and it's like a museum land
Starting point is 00:32:18 and the the frankenstein castle is now run by his great-great-great-granddaughter, Victoria Frankenstein, who apparently is a legend and invites you into the Frankenstein Manor for an experience with classic monsters, like in a zoo setting. And of course, in great universal rides and attractions fashion, something, period, goes, period, wrong, period. And monsters are unleashed. Let me tell you something right now as I point in your face. Get into it. You don't have to tell me.
Starting point is 00:32:53 I'm already there. I'm into it. Remember that Lone Star song? That was iconic. Iconic. Wow. I love this premise. Victoria Frankenstein.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Victoria Frankenstein, who I want to be everything and more. Who should play her? This is what I said. Okay, who should play? Everyone, readers, get together with us on this. We need to start dream, fan casting Victoria Frankenstein.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Victoria Frankenstein. She runs a manor and she says, come here, I have something to show you. Who is it? Who plays her? Florence. Florence. You might have missed this earlier when you were talking about Piggiotto
Starting point is 00:33:27 saying she's a star, she's an actress. Piggiotto? Piggiotto? That's literally a hook. Piggiotto? I'm shaking my fucking ass. Period. Piggiotto is a short...
Starting point is 00:33:44 Piggiotto as a bop Pidgeotto that is actually really really really something we should think about we should think about that Pidgeotto is a short haired queen much like Miss Flo Florence showing up in these looks
Starting point is 00:34:00 amazing it's Florence Pidgeotto down Florence that's it looks amazing it's florence pugiotto down florence that's it she's taking flight i choose you as they have always iconically said i choose you choose you talk about that as a moment talk about what it feels like as a pokemon to be chosen by the master i choose you oh my. It's an iconic emotion. Three words, monosyllabic words, in the
Starting point is 00:34:30 culture forever associated with this IP. You can never say I choose you in a setting without evoking Ash Ketchum. Sorry, Sarah Bareilles. Sorry, Sarah. By the way, we love that profile of her, the New Yorker. Oh my god. so i've now
Starting point is 00:34:46 seen her in it oh and i have to tell you congratulations to the entire cast who just left because this is a perfect show sarah borelis where is the tony on her mantle we should consider putting it there i listened to after sleeping on it for so long finally listened to the now like seven year old album of what's inside like her singing all the waitress songs when he sees me when he sees me is truly when she takes it down the octave again at the end when she goes once two again when she when she's like wailed the whole thing I loved it when he sees me in the cast recording
Starting point is 00:35:29 it's a great it stands out as a character you know sort of like number right like it's Kimiko Glenn it's it's like and she's incredible she did a great job with it did a great job but then to hear Sarah just give it like a precision do you know what
Starting point is 00:35:46 i mean and and have it still work so well as a song i go wow like i almost like this better dare i say i mean they're her songs you know what i mean like i think that she's always going to be connected to them in a way i do think like in terms of she used to be mine i think like jesse mueller really sang the shit out of that song. But I will also say, on the duet, You Matter to Me, Sarah just is so, you know what I mean? Like, her sound, the way she acts, like, the way she tells a story is just so simple and present that, like, it's perfect for moments in the woods
Starting point is 00:36:24 and, like, it deserves to go down as like one of the best interpretations of that. Because she's just so thoughtful with every note and every word. She's thoughtful. And literally, that's what that song is. It's there's thoughts. Thoughts. It's thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts, thoughts. And so, Sarah is able to just be pinpoint accurate with like the way she places where you're
Starting point is 00:36:46 feeling things and it's just it was a treat and a treasure and like honestly that is the type of thing you want to see when you go like to see life theater period and moments in the woods is a perfect example of especially in sarah's take on it of the jennifer lewis thing of like i don't cry i make them cry like i'm not crying as the character i'm i'm just i'm doing i'm making choices in order to try and evoke something from the audience and it works yeah i was being facetious earlier when you were like that was an incredible interview because you were placing a lot of it on me. But it really was, she was such, like, the book is great. You finished the book, right? The book is incredible.
Starting point is 00:37:31 I finished the book so, so, so good. She's just like, not only is she so incredibly entertaining to speak to, it's just like, it's just always such a ride. But also, like, she really is smart and she's seen a lot like this story about being conned by this guy that she fell in love with. I mean, she's just done and seen so much. And so like every single time I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:57 like in the same vicinity as her, like you walk away, like feeling like, well, she's just a force of nature. And reading the book, I kept reminding myself or being reminded that patricia on i love that for you is so grounded in something that like
Starting point is 00:38:14 you don't really get from jennifer lewis the persona the person who writes like you know her life yeah patricia is something completely different and i'm sure but and yeah i'm sure that jennifer still like finds her way in somehow but it's so not like jennifer lewis you know what's funny is that when we were doing it on set they definitely had the option to make it jennifer lewis like i will say she definitely gave you some takes that were like really grand and like you know a lot of power in the way that um jennifer expresses it which is an action where so like every other take she would really throw one away and i've noticed that's what they used every single time. They really gave such a... The moments where
Starting point is 00:39:07 she has so much heft are like, that's so powerful. And they really... It was just really well found. Yeah. I should just say that I was very sad to miss that interview, but as I told you on a text note with Joel Kim Booster,
Starting point is 00:39:24 who just got back from burning man a transformative experience for him um i did not mind i did not mind listening to the two of you talk just one-on-one it was so lovely to listen to i was so i was just beaming the whole time for both of you i was like Matt has found a mentor and a peer and a friend in this amazing person. And she, you can tell she respects the hell out of you. It's very nice. It's very nice.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And honestly, like I had just, I don't know. It's like, but she does, she is onto something when she says, when she said that thing, some people just have a little bit more. Like I was thinking about that with Sarah when I was watching it. I'm like, some people just have a little bit more like it's.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And yeah, it's, so I just like think, you know, we're going to see if she gives it on Wednesday is Ms. Leah. Wow. That is right. That is within 48 hours away.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Yeah, I'm very excited. I was saying to someone that it's not like a full insurance policy to have Leah be Fanny. It could still be bad. I mean, of course it could. Anything could be bad at any time.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That's culture. Anything could be bad at any time. Any time. You know what's funny about all this Don't Worry Darling stuff is it's like the reviews have come out and some people are like, it's not that great. anytime that's culture anything could be bad at any time anytime you know what's funny about all this don't worry darling stuff is it's like the reviews have come out and some people are like it's not that great you're like oh wow all that went into like something that now is not that great obviously i haven't we haven't seen it but the reviews are sort of like lukewarm on it and i
Starting point is 00:40:59 will still go see it i'm so i'll see it i'm very excited but like it is funny that like sometimes like all this stuff goes into stuff that could be better at any time. It really could. For all of the chatter around it, for all of the marketing dollars that go into it, sometimes it's just like most of the time, I would say even. You're just like, was it worth it?
Starting point is 00:41:18 And then you think would people have been talking about this movie if it didn't have all these things? Maybe they wouldn't. Maybe it's a good thing. And this brings us to an interesting question. Is all press good press? Is it better to be talking about this?
Starting point is 00:41:34 All press is not good press. No, I really disagree with that. Yeah. It depends on the value assessment of good in service to a goal or something if the goal is to like talk about it then yes like i think that's what people mean when they say that but i'm like it doesn't it's very hollow and not that it doesn't leave you feeling good after you know right even yeah you hate to feel uncomfortable yeah right yeah or at least we don't like to feel uncomfortable
Starting point is 00:42:07 like just no i'm just saying that you hate to feel like uncomfortable around something like that's probably the thing you want to feel the least when you go see something like especially like when you go see someone perform live and it seems like they're really nervous or like that there's an icker on the project like it is distracting totally totally and um with funny girl i'm just excited period to see it and uh that's it but it's but what i'm saying is like it's not a guarantee that leah michelle will like save broadway just by virtue of being in the show oh and then i i had heard too that like back in the glee days when they would go on tour she would sing i think the first season the first year they did
Starting point is 00:42:49 this she would sing don't rain on my parade and she only did it like twice because after both times it was like this is too much on her voice yeah so i wonder what's gonna happen with this with this iteration of like her singing this song. Interesting. It's so funny that you bring that song up in particular and also Jennifer mentioned that song last week. She mentioned that being such a moment because last night
Starting point is 00:43:16 Barbra Streisand's Don't Rain On My Parade actually came on at Quads, which is the great Palm Springs bar where they show all of these like iconic videos and everyone just sort of like points at the screen and screams um but they did play don't rain on my parade by barbara and it really is such a shred from so many different perspectives like she's so present on screen and such a star and she sounds unbelievable
Starting point is 00:43:47 and the shots are great and the narrative is moving and it's a really great movie moment. And then you remember like, yeah, like someone else is going to have to do it now. And that Barbara thing still does creep on in. I mean, but at least, you know, she's going to be able to sing it. And at least we're seeing her on the second damn day she does it. So if she runs out of gas in the tank, it won't have been an hour performance. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, I kind of wish we were. And I don't I don't mean to say that, like, I don't appreciate you taking me to see the show. Well, I'm curious. Well, I'm saying that I might see it again, like a month later when she doesn't have the new Jack, the Broadway Jack Jack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Before she can see any damn reviews, it's going to be really interesting to see what the, what the blank theater critics say about her. I'm really interested. We'll be seeing it the day after reviews come out. And that's also huge for the show to have it. This is what I'm saying. It's like, the Funny Girl press,
Starting point is 00:44:51 that was not good press. But I think that show's going to sell tickets. They have. But again, that Funny Girl press, even as it bleeds into the Leah of it all, I'm like, we're not going in with great energy. Even the Leah can't read stuff. You're like energy. Even the Leah can't read stuff, you're like, I hate the Leah can't read thing.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I just don't think it's that funny. I just think Millie Bobby Brown, that meme of her being like, hey y'all, I'm about to hit some faggots with my car. That to me was at least funny because it was so stupid. Leah Michelle can't read. I get that people are dragging Jameela Jamil because she's like,
Starting point is 00:45:24 this is ableist. And it's like, Jameela Jamil because she's like, this is ableist. And it's like, oh, Jameela, stop. But also, it is sort of ableist. And also, it's just not that funny. She can read. It just doesn't make me laugh. The difference between the Millie thing and the Leah thing, though, is that Millie, being Millie, was very, very, very shaken by that. And it's still, like, you cannot.
Starting point is 00:45:46 I think she, like, was doing interviews in tears, being like, this is such a cruel thing. But at least it's funny. Whereas with Lea Michele Can't Read, she's just like, yeah, I can read, it's sad. Like, why are they doing that? And it's just like, yeah, she obviously can read. But the Lea thing,
Starting point is 00:46:03 the funny thing about the Lea thing to me is that in that new yorker piece she's like why are people saying that i can't read i would show she goes i would show up to the glee set every day and know my lines i can read and you're like that's something that you would say if you didn't know how to read that's what's funny i guess her response moment yeah the the joke itself is like fine whatever um but her response to it because she's leah michelle and you kind of are like what a fucking yeah idiot she is i mean like that is the that's the fun part to me yeah it's like it's like introducing yourself and be like hi i'm matt and I'm not lying about that. Yeah, yes. She's like, what do they mean I can't read?
Starting point is 00:46:48 I've read so many books. Here's three books I have read. Okay, mama. Slow it down, reader. Slow it down, reader. It's interesting. I don't feel bad about calling her an idiot on this podcast. She's not a reader,
Starting point is 00:47:04 so she won't listen. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff. Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute. She had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy.
Starting point is 00:47:29 What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom, and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
Starting point is 00:48:02 See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production
Starting point is 00:48:31 in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.
Starting point is 00:48:52 We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer.
Starting point is 00:49:14 I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
Starting point is 00:49:37 Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I wanted to talk about very quickly. Oh. Do we want to talk about this Leo thing real quick? What Leo thing?
Starting point is 00:50:57 That he broke up with this girl like days after her 25th birthday. And that this is the pattern that he dates women until they turn 25. And then he dumps them. Here's my take on that. It's just like, okay, then like girls, if you know this,
Starting point is 00:51:11 then you know this. He's just this kind of guy. Don't date him. What's sad to me is this. So this latest girl, Camilla Marone, she weirdly her mom. I've read this today.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Her mom dated Al Pacino. So something's going on there. But it's a family of star fuckers. That's funny. Period. There's like a show in there or something. Star fuckers. Stars Gourney Weaver and Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Yes. Gag. It's like Heartbreakers with the same cast. Amazing. She posted something on her Instagram like a year or two ago, a picture of Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall who, with the caption,
Starting point is 00:51:56 a love like this. Now, mind you, the two of them had a 25-year age difference. Camilla and Leo have a 23-year age difference. And it's like, oh shit. Like you've been like pilled into thinking that like this kind of May, December thing is like, right.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Amazing or ass or like good. Or that it's like classic. Which whatever, and this is not to say, and I think everyone's being very clear in the discourse, whatever of it all, that age differences in these relationships are not inherently bad, but the thing
Starting point is 00:52:30 that is troublesome is that there's a pattern in Leo, and maybe that does mean something is maybe morally tricky about a man dating a younger woman. But I think, and Katie Ruth Ashcraft wrote this, and Jezebel, our good friend Katie A,
Starting point is 00:52:46 she was saying that this is actually a good thing because now we can, like, just make fun of that model of older men dating younger women. Or who exploit, or who, like, fall into a pattern of exclusively dating younger women at, like, a very young age where you're like, wait, this is, like, now you have, like, a pop cultural reference to that and be like, oh, he like doing the leo thing yeah it's sad you know yeah the leo thing is often things that i find are it's just kind of interesting how he does a movie and like you know it's the oscars you know what i mean like it's it's the big thing it's leo the movie star and then him when he's not being leo the movie star is literally
Starting point is 00:53:25 in like a bad t-shirt a shitty hat like on a huge yacht like just a too big of a yeah of an expense like and obviously not great for whatever body of water it's in with these young, young, young, young models that are then completely replaceable. But yet when he shows up and he clocks in and he sleeps in a bear or something for the Oscar, everyone's like, god damn it. The great movie star. And it is
Starting point is 00:53:58 sort of like, he might be the last one. And Ben Affleck, I think, gets to make, you know, he makes a lot of like transitions between prestige and trash throughout the years and people seem to accept him back but it's true like the male movie stars do get treated
Starting point is 00:54:14 with a degree of like ah let him do it which is like we've tossed away so many of these women because they like because of whatever and like these guys their tit popped out or something they had work done god forbid
Starting point is 00:54:29 because of the oppressive patriarchy blah blah blah but like you know it just feels like it never like I think that Bradley Cooper could show up at the Oscars with poopy coming out of his pants and people would be like well mama he did a Star Wars movie.
Starting point is 00:54:45 He's a classic movie star and he does it all. But Gaga couldn't. Gaga could not come covered in poop. If Gaga came covered in poop, it better be by her own design. It would be curtains. It would be curtains for Gaga. I think even that would be a bridge too far
Starting point is 00:55:00 for our Lady Gaga. Honey, and me even telling this story to the public about my own poop journey that might be it for me okay it might be curtains for beau it's fine i had a good run i really did you had a good run you've been able to do amazing work i i have i have um what do you have anything else to talk about i have one more thing to talk about i mean uh what is the topic that you are going to bring up i was just going to bring up i'm bringing some negative stories to the chat but this one concerns our former guest and another legend maren morris yes i think she is really doing it right
Starting point is 00:55:45 period she's really like taking these narratives that are being like foisted upon her and she's just like nope I'm gonna like actually win out in this way she, Maren is funny and we knew this
Starting point is 00:56:01 but Maren's a, she's got jokes Maren gets it and for basically anyone that doesn't know out there that's listening, any of these readers, she basically is just getting really ripped to shreds by the demons like Tucker Carlson and
Starting point is 00:56:16 Fox News, because she basically called transphobia what it is and said that anyone has a place listening to country music at her shows etc because she dared call out someone's transphobia is britney aldean fucking yes jason's flop wife jester flop in the clown square she might be nominated next year um but this is this this really made me laugh was that um, first of all, Brittany tweeted,
Starting point is 00:56:47 she was the one who tweeted like, I want to thank my parents for not changing my gender when I was a tomboy. And then I love this. I love this girly life. Brown heart emoji. Brown heart emoji. Brown heart? Brown heart.
Starting point is 00:57:00 I think she's part of the poopy club. And then- I think brown heart is the title of that brown heart one word like brave heart and then brown heart like brave heart that's the title of that yeah and then maren tweeted um it's so easy to not be a scumbag and then she says sell your clippings and zip it, Insurrection Barbie. I think that's a really good- Wow, Insurrection Barbie.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Sell your clip-ins and zip it? Ooh. You know what's crazy about Insurrection Barbie? People would buy her. The insurrectionists would buy her and they would have Insurrection Barbie in their homes. Their kids would be playing with Insurrection Barbie. That's where America's at.
Starting point is 00:57:45 There's so many homes that would buy insurrection Barbie. Just a militant Barbie intent on taking down democracy would fly off the shelves. It's going to be huge this Christmas in insurrectionist homes. You think Maren made a mistake? No, I think she- By bringing insurrection Barbie into the world? I think it is a funny, I think she... By bringing Insurrection Barbie into the world? I think it is a funny, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:58:08 sketch, Lauren. I think Insurrection Barbie is kind of hilarious. And I would even like if Maren Morris came and cameoed as Insurrection Barbie, but also that would make her need to dress up like an insurrectionist and who really wants to do that? Well, maybe some of the new
Starting point is 00:58:24 cast members of of snl yes keep an eye out for um that announcement soon and uh but anyway no i think that she's um playing it online and in life and probably live on concert because the woman's voice is incredible she's a great performer and i'm seeing her on October 17th. Oh my God, where's she playing? The damn bowl. Oh, that'll be so good. Marin, I blasted 80s Mercedes minutes before we started this recording.
Starting point is 00:58:54 What a song. I will never stop saying it. I just have to say too, the bones. Oh, the bones. It's a bop. Did you see? Marin has been actually posting a little bit about this,
Starting point is 00:59:08 but she auditioned for Wicked on Broadway and got a callback. For Glinda? For Elphaba. For Elphaba. Yeah, yeah, that feels good. And I was like, I would buy a ticket to this. Defying Gravity. What a song. No, no, no, of course.
Starting point is 00:59:24 But I'm saying Define Gravity. I meant to finish the sentence. Define Gravity by Alain Marin would be so, so good. It'd be incredible. Anything else you want to bring up? Mama. What? I think it's time for I Don't Think So Honey. Okay, Mama. I think it's time indeed.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Do you have something? I have something kind of weird. I have something kind of weird too. I think this is one of the weirder wacko episodes and I think it's okay to sometimes get a little weird, a little wacko, get in touch with your kind of kooky side. You know what I mean? Especially
Starting point is 00:59:55 as we get into fall, it's going to become a little bit darker, a little bit colder. You can try some things out in the privacy of your home. Getting a little weird and kooky, trying that new hairstyle, putting on that makeup you know what I'm saying? You know, just like
Starting point is 01:00:11 just get a little weird. You know? You think you're going to have a little weird moment this fall? I might get a little weird this fall. Like I think I might try something different. You know, maybe do a little what about a little ear piercing for me? Ooh, and
Starting point is 01:00:27 I think you're going to pierce the ear that not many people expect. The left ear? Which one's the gay ear? The gay ear, I think, is the right ear. So you think it's kind of queer for me to pierce the not gay ear? I think either ear,
Starting point is 01:00:43 it's queer. That's a rule of culture. What number was that? 75. That's rule of culture number 75. Either ear is queer. It's queer. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.
Starting point is 01:01:03 I love that. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy.
Starting point is 01:01:19 We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.
Starting point is 01:01:52 See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty,
Starting point is 01:02:30 founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.
Starting point is 01:03:33 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.. His father in Cuba. Mr. González wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
Starting point is 01:04:26 as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I have a good idea. Okay, this is Matt Rogers. I don't think Sony's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. There's never been a sunscreen that won't sting you in the eyes why have we had shark tank for so many years and no one has gone on with the invention it's sunscreen but it can get in your eye
Starting point is 01:04:55 and doesn't sting for me this is the most obvious invention anyone could possibly think of and yet here we are in the year of our lord 2022 no No one's even thought of this yet. Every sunscreen you put on your damn face. And let me tell you people, readers out there, I hope you're protecting your son in these times of great heat. Because if you step outside, it's like a demon heat. And please be protecting yourself with SPF. It's different for everyone, but get some on your skin now. If you don't, I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Back to your eyes stinging and sunscreen sliding, sweating down into your face. 15 seconds. Suddenly you're unable to see. I don't think so, honey. And then the pain sets in. It is pain unlike you've ever felt. And it is because no one has come up with the invention.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Brought it to Barbara. Brought it to the sharks and said, sharks, are you willing to go down with me? No, I don't think so, honey. What a shame. That's one minute that was beautiful now what kind of sunscreen are you using that would sting you and you're like are you spraying it on are you i'll tell you right now that i put super goop sunscreen on my face have you heard of this no relationship with there's different kinds of super goofs on super goop sunscreens which do you know which one you're using is the the it's heavy white so i think you can probably look into they make a
Starting point is 01:06:10 matte sunscreen and which feels very apropos oh i just got it i just got it and that one kind of goes on i'm sorry i i normally i don't do puns or wordplay that well but it's but it's a secret power that you'll reveal later in your career. You know what I mean? Yes, yes. Yeah. Because right now you can still do so much types of comedy, but later, when you go into your pun era in like 10 years, people are not going to see that coming. That would be so cool.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Comedians should have like eras more. Comedians should have eras more. Absolutely. I love it. And Absolutely Not in like the Chappelle way Like oh he's in his like transphobia era I feel like there should be like I'm in my clownery era
Starting point is 01:06:53 I'm in my Comedia era I'm in my pun era I think comedians need to have more eras 100% Like you know what I mean We need Huge massive reinventions Comedians need to have more eras, 100%. You know what I mean? We need huge, massive reinventions for comedians.
Starting point is 01:07:13 We kind of do. I want Amy Schumer to come out next comedy album with a short blue bob, and the theme is deconstruction in space, very neo-futurist you know what I mean like that's what I want from Schumer next go around next press cycle I want Schumer to basically do a Julio Torres
Starting point is 01:07:33 impression yeah I want lesbian Ali Wong with no hair like Sinead O'Connor it's all hair based for you which is what eras are let's just be what eras are. Let's just be real.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Eras are just hair. Eras are just hair. It's actually real culture number 92. Eras are just hair. Like pink has never gone through another era either because our hair has always been the damn same. Blonde? Pink? It's been blonde mostly.
Starting point is 01:08:06 It's been blonde more than it's been pink. When you said, this is a very interesting gay who's on first because you were like blonde and I was like pink. And so then you were like blonde. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Pink is blonde.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Blonde, pink, pink, blonde. It's gay who's on first. It would be a hugely successful bit in the vaudeville. And this is what I'm saying. I want fucking Bo Burnham to have a vaudeville era. Yeah. This is what I want. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:40 I have one that's a little weird, as I've said. You keep saying it's so weird, and Bowen, I just want to tell you something. I've seen a lot of really weird stuff, and so for your I Don't Think So Honey to be truly weird... It's going to take a lot. Yeah, because I've seen, like,
Starting point is 01:08:56 turtles swim. I've seen, like, whales give birth. Weird. I've seen a lot of weird stuff. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey the term double fisting sometimes just sometimes it's just holding two drinks it's not like someone you know taking two drinks to the head and that's why they need to hold two drinks at the same time it's also co-opting the kink community hello also unless you're edward 40 handsing it it's not really what you think it is when you go oh you're double fisting it's always
Starting point is 01:09:33 like anytime someone says oh you're double fisting 30 seconds it's in that tone of like oh someone's like gotten a haircut it's it's in in that delivery that is bothersome to me. I have not double-fisted in a while. No one's said that to me, but I was watching Potomac, and then Candice says it to Giselle, and I was like, don't do that. Just say you're holding two drinks.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Sometimes you're holding two drinks for any other reason than to say I'm double-fisting. This is a bad term. It's giving 2010. It's giving college for me, and we don't need it in the culture. This is a bad term. It's giving 2010. It's giving college for me and we don't need it in the culture. And that's one minute. I think that something is going on here.
Starting point is 01:10:11 And as someone that has newly become obsessed with therapy, I'm going to therapize you. You are uncomfortable with the word fisting. You are. You don't like that it's being used. I'm saying it shouldn't be used in this context. I love the word fisting. Examine that. Because words matter. like that i'm saying i'm saying it shouldn't be used in this context i love why is that examine that examine that because words matter right but that's not really an answer to the question why
Starting point is 01:10:31 don't you think people should be saying double fisting and they should say something else like i'm holding two drinks when it's just sort of is it because of fisting the word no ending it's because the term double fisting carries with it this like pizzazz and flair when people use it they're like ooh double fisting and you're like don't do that i'm just holding two drinks it's not don't editorialize me and how do you how when when if someone were to say to you you're double fisting what's your fear about how you'd be editorialized? I have no fear. This is not a fear. I go, it's a gripe. I go, no, I'm just holding two drinks, sir. So you think that double fisting shouldn't exist at all as something anyone ever says?
Starting point is 01:11:16 It just, I don't know what it's supposed to do. Like if someone is Edward Fortyhands, which I have not seen since college either, I would go, well, that person is doing Edward Fortyhandsing, which I have not seen since college either, I would go, well, that person is doing Edward Fortyhands. What about this is not clicking for you? You don't think that when someone says to you you're double fisting, that you're not taking it as an accusation and maybe you have an issue to examine on your hands?
Starting point is 01:11:38 Hey, you're double fisting. I definitely don't have an issue. You're being Garcelle to me right now. You are Erica. To my Erica. By the way, can we just talk about how rotten this season is i i'm over the season this is a bad season of beverly hills i just have to say like the first of all i guess the fact that it's all moved online and like off the show to yeah i hate it no lame and i just think like you obviously need like
Starting point is 01:12:04 something to change at that point, just because so much of the narrative is like, not what's actually happening in the show. And then every now and then there'll be like an iconic moment or one of the, one of the women does something funny, but like this Diana thing the other day with Sutton, like the way that all those women just sat there while Sutton just cried and cried while Diana is laughing, a fuck, gleefully
Starting point is 01:12:26 calling her a cunt. Yeah, that was wild. And none of them really said anything besides Garcelle and I was just like, you can just feel it getting ugly. Dark in a way. And I will say that it's not necessarily like when it's dark you don't like watching it, but when it becomes like
Starting point is 01:12:41 dark and also inactive and not not fun it's static yeah it's static darkness hearing an erica jane's laugh i'm sorry that little cackle is just nails on a fucking chalkboard it's the worst sound here's what I really need. I need Crystal to say something to Erica Jane about the earrings, and I need her to not back down. If she's going to now bring up the fact that it's $750,000,
Starting point is 01:13:14 but I need Crystal to do that, or maybe it's just not the show for her, but she needs to come hard. If she's going to take on this Erica Jane plotline about the $750,000 earrings, she better not back down and get afraid of Erica when Erica lashes out
Starting point is 01:13:30 because you can handle her. You dwarf her. You have actual money. Your husband is great. You have a family. Don't be scared of Erica. Don't be scared of Erica. No one should be scared of Erica. She is one scared of Erica. No one should be scared of Erica.
Starting point is 01:13:45 She is one of the most pitiful people in the public eye. I mean it. But Crystal, too, I'm like, none of these people are giving the give. We need to be giving the give. And we love Garcelle, but Garcelle will often just sit there when something happens
Starting point is 01:14:01 and go, that's not right. And it's just like, oh, then, I don't know. Yeah, of course it's not right. And it's just like, then, I don't know. Yeah, of course it's not right. Then get up in there. Let's get up in there. Make something happen. Get up in there. This is why I need Potomac back ASAP.
Starting point is 01:14:15 Unfortunately, like Midnight's, it's not coming out until mid-October. And you and I seem to have a disagreement about the Salt Lake City Season 3 trailer I go I loved it the season 2 trailer was a masterpiece in trailers
Starting point is 01:14:32 I loved the season 3 trailer I mean when Heather revealed her black eye I was like absolutely who did it that's we already have a whodunit on our hands and that's because Salt Lake is and will always be first and foremost a's because Salt Lake is and will always be, first and foremost, a crime thriller. Salt Lake City is a crime thriller. I'm a thriller. I just think the
Starting point is 01:14:53 black guy might be a big, big nothing. Might be a big burger of nothing, as we call it. Nothing burger. All I know is we did see in the footage, Heather absolutely tossed Whitney. Heather and Whitney, that is, if that friendship goes, you go, what else is happening? I just,
Starting point is 01:15:13 I will, these are women of great esteem, great respect, great beauty, great talent, and beauty, great talent, and great fortune. And great drama. And great conflict.
Starting point is 01:15:32 They have a great fortune, these women. They sit on great fortunes. So to see them in conflict is... Really troubling. It says end of days to me. It says it's giving end of days. It's giving end of days to me.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Period. Period. Potomac needs to come back. As I've said, it's the best vibes of any city. The women look absolutely gorgeous in that photo. Period. Oh my goodness. I need these women to go.
Starting point is 01:16:11 I'm actually excited for Mia to come back in. You know what? Let's see what Mia's giving. I'm not upset about Mia and Big Daddy either. What's it? Big Daddy.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Whatever. I don't know what his name is. But Mia gave us some iconic moments in the last season she has a big heart I know Giselle she has a big heart she has a beautiful heart
Starting point is 01:16:38 she has a beautiful heart and I've met Giselle and she has a beautiful heart and like I was a dancer wearing and she has a beautiful heart beautiful heart and like i was a dancer wearing gowns at a place that served lobster and steak and lobster it was a five-star restaurant it was a five-star restaurant where we served steak and lobster and i did wear a gown i was not a stripper cut to two episodes before i was a stripper Mia no we need to give Mia
Starting point is 01:17:07 the give she is a legend that's funny anyway Potomac needs to come back and also whenever Candace talks about her big feet whenever she says
Starting point is 01:17:23 your big feet and then they get into a conversation about whether or not that's like size and insult i size this sure but then sometimes like at the reunion they did i think cut to a close-up on the feet see that's what we need we don't need this darkness we need the question of is it okay for a woman to say another woman's feet are too big discuss this is why potomac is the best. It's funny. These women are funny. Okay. I mean, let's not also forget that Potomac has seen it's probably the darkest
Starting point is 01:17:52 days on any other franchises. Yes. And it, but there is another dawn. Yeah, there is another time. Period. Period. Um, I want to tell you before we go about one song that I recently listened to which actually was snubbed in the great global songbook and i wanted to shoot it your way okay just so
Starting point is 01:18:13 it's this is more of a for your consideration from me to you um as the nominations approach you know what i mean right around the corner and um we think about recognizing iconography. And here's the song. Stand Out by Tevin Campbell from the Goofy Movie soundtrack. Oh my God. Can we just give flowers to Tevin Campbell? Yeah. Flowers.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Can we talk? Iconic Tevin Campbell song. Stand out. Amazing voice. Iconic Tevin Campbell song. Stand out. I'm all in the crowd. Even if I got a shot out loud. Amazing voice, Matt Rogers. You've never sounded better. And what?
Starting point is 01:18:55 Sorry, I'm just crying. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you cry. I didn't mean to make you cry. But Tevin Campbell was out here sounding like the 90s. Take me back to a time and place, King. Now, take me there. And I'm so happy he's come out of the closet recently. I'm so happy he's living in his true self.
Starting point is 01:19:18 He's someone who really was giving the give. I'm sorry. My new phrase is give the give. I've noticed it. Which really can apply to so much. And Sarah Sherman did kind of help bring this into my lexicon. But Tevin was giving the give since day one. Since he burst onto the world stage.
Starting point is 01:19:38 When he says in the track, it's a piece of cake. Are you kidding me? Also, do you remember a Goofy movie? The character of, I believe it was Roxanne. The most beautiful woman in the world. The most beautiful dog in the world. The most beautiful woman.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Dog woman. In the world. She said, this is a woman. Let me hold my books to my developing chest. Notice my bangs. Even more beautiful. Notice my bangs. I'm going to look even more beautiful than Kate Moss.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Notice my bangs. Just a great beauty. A figure of great esteem, respect, beauty, talent. She loved to read books. One of the best things to do. Couldn't be Leah. I'm sorry. Now we're fully in the Leah Michelle can't read sort of bit.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I have to say I fully believe she can read. I believe it. Some of the longest books in print. Some of the longest books in print Leah Michelle has read. Roxanne though, Roxanne and Max had just one of those romances that you're
Starting point is 01:20:49 like, I hope this works out. I bet they're still together. I bet they are still together fucking like dogs. Roxanne is a gorgeous dog woman. Beautiful. Beautiful. That's rule of culture number 77.
Starting point is 01:21:07 Roxanne is a gorgeous Dog woman Beautiful Beautiful We end every episode with a song I gotta listen to it again. Bye. Korean! Korean! On Thanksgiving Day, 1999,
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