Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Can We Talk About Nicolette?" (w/ Pat Regan)

Episode Date: November 7, 2016

Your Culturistas are BACKKKKKKKK! Bowen has returned from really far away China, Matt is reveling in the memories of sunny Orlando and is also back, and they are joined by star of the Las Culturistas LOST EPISODE, Pat Regan — and they get INTO IT, honey! They talk Lisa Kudrow, Finding Prince Charming, The Bachelor, Friends, Greys Anatomy, The OC, Pat’s love of Laguna Beach and of course, Nicolette Sheridan from Desperate Housewives. Soak it up, Culturistas. This is necessary medicine before Election Day!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's been a little bit of a hiatus yet again. We've returned. Well, I've returned more specifically. More. Yes. More. I would say more significantly. I've returned.

I know we both went on vacations the last time we spoke. I'm not going to dispute that yours was the more significant vacation. Bowen was just in China, which is a country in Asia. Which is a country in Asia. It is literally on the other side of the world. Which is a country in Asia. It is literally on the other side of the world. It's a perfect 12-hour time difference. I cannot stress enough

that you cannot have more of a time difference than 12 hours. You can't have more of a time difference than that, honey. And you know, I was in Orlando where the time difference is the same, but the difference,

you have a lot more fun there than you do here. So I will say that. Yes. For a second, I thought you were going to difference, you have a lot more fun there than you do here. So I will say that. For a second, I thought you were going to say that you have a lot more fun there than you do in China, which probably is still true. Well, probably. I would say the primary difference between Orlando and New York City, which is where we live and where we're recording this from, is that you have more fun in Orlando and there's more sunlight for a larger portion of time of the day. That's accurate. Yeah.

I would say those two things, Orlando being a little bit closer to the equator than New York City happens to be. However, they do share a hemisphere, which we can't say about China, which again is an Asian country. This is all true. Yeah. This is all true. We do share a northern hemisphere with China. Absolutely. Never said that.

I just want to say that I never said we didn't share a northern hemisphere. Toilets flush on the same direction. Yeah, absolutely. never said that i just want to say that i never said we didn't show it on the same direction yeah absolutely never said that never claimed that we weren't in the same hemisphere you just play the tape roll the tape okay yeah let's play let's literally play back the tape we don't have the tape guys we have such a special guest we're already laughing a lot because of him we're already that's true that's true we're laughing so much because of him matt let's let's list off the credits. Let's list off his credits. Well, first his mom has a friend who once met Colin Quinn on a beach and

told him that he did comedy. Another credit of his is that a Swedish... Sorry. Another credit of his is that a Swedish woman once... Oh my god! This is so funny!

A Swedish woman once told our guests that he would do well in Europe sexually. He has a teen cousin who has a vest that was featured in an episode of Scream Queens by Ryan Murphy. Yes, also he was unceremoniously blacklisted

from the third installment of my show, Live on Broadgate. He's currently on a hiatus from UCB's Lloyd and I. Everyone give it up for Pat Regan. Hey, wow. We also forgot to mention that

he is the star of the last episode of Lost Culture Reads. You may remember from Instagram. We recorded an episode with Pat months and months and months ago,

really, when Lost Culture Reasons was just a baby podcast. Oh my God, yeah, our first guest. And our first two-time guest. And now your first two-time guest.

I guess what happened was for our listeners who weren't there, there was a technical glitch. There was a technical glitch. It was a technical glitch. It was a technical glitch. And it was a good episode, I think.

It was a great episode. How did this stack up compared to episodes that you've been able to listen back to it? Right, I know. My memories of it are very fond. We were getting our sea legs as podcasters. But you were such a phenomenal, resplendent guest to have on

because the repartee was on point. Right, it was quick. And I want to say right now that I already said off air, but I want to say on air that I'm at a tough job right now that really frazzles my brain. And I don't even know if I'm going to be able to talk about culture that much, but I'm going to do my best that I can. That's okay. Because most of the time when we record this, we're very tired. And we make a point of saying how tired we are.

And I actually think it helps us get more loose. It's like when you wake up in the morning and the first thing you do is you write. You free write because it just unloads the brain. Whenever I wake up, I journal for three hours. Absolutely. And then I turn all my screens off and go back to bed. And that's my day. Wait, hold on. Tangent. This reminds me of a really good

joke in a Chrissy Shackelford character. Hi, Chrissy. Hi, Chrissy. And we know you're a listener. And I want to shout out. Actually, I'm going to shout out this character. Hi, Chrissy. Hi, Chrissy. Hey, Chrissy. I know you're a listener, and I want to shout out... Actually, I'm going to shout out this character. It's your busy friend, Kate. And this is also in Chrissy's one-woman show called Diane Shangri-La Presents Not Dry Yet,

which you should see running at UCB Chelsea. And also, I want to say, I'm now going to perform a line from it, which is a spoiler, but I'm sorry. Okay. Wow. Her character says... She's like the busiest person ever, and she says, here's a typical day for me. I wake up at 6.45 in the morning. I roll over, check my phone.

All of a sudden, it's 2.15 in the afternoon, which is very true to life. I mean, very frequently I find myself not getting out of bed until well into the afternoon. Do you guys turn your screens off an hour before bedtime? No. Me neither. And I won't. I never will. There's a new lifestyle trend where you do, it's a tech-free bedroom.

Have you heard of this? No, I haven't. What? A lot of young mothers are doing this in my office. No tech in the bed? No tech in the bed. I could never. Just no phones.

It's a phone-free, laptop-free zone. Wow. So, you know, who knows? Where do these mothers get the time? I know, and where do they get the discipline? You know what I mean? With the, you know, vibrators. Sure. Absolutely, that's true. Because we all know that mothers are getting none.

They have to totally rely on themselves. The husbands can't do nothing right. Well, now, Pat, I don't think it makes any difference that you're difference that you feel fried because of this job. That's how we got off on this ride. I feel like we're still, we're getting off to a great start. Totally.

We'll talk about culture in the way that we know. We'll do either low touch or high touch. We'll talk about culture as appropriate. Do you know what I mean? You know, I just want to say what you're missing out on from the last episode is we did talk a lot about Pat's love of reality television. Right. And that was a bit, that ended up being, I think, the theme of the episode. And you know what else we talked about last episode that made me realize it for myself?

What? Is that we talked about Lisa Kudrow. And since then, I've identified as someone who Lisa Kudrow is my comedic icon. Yes, absolutely. And I didn't identify that way before the episode and then we talked about it and i kind of found that in the episode what is the lisa kudrow vehicle of choice for you romey michelle's high school reunion that's actually one that no one ever really shouts out because it's very like it's it out and vogue to say

you know the comeback lately which i mean come on and also friends obviously lisa kudrow famously most famous from friends i truly think that i make up a story that i tell people like it's true but i i think it's not true i think i made this up but that lisa kudrow was teaching at groundlings and someone i say someone i knew had a class and lisa kudrow was supposed to be the teacher and then and then they got there and she wasn't the teacher they had said because she'd booked friends yeah and that's not true i think i made made that up. Somebody also made up to me one time, I think, that Lisa Kudrow

taught Kristen Wiig at the Groundlings, specifically. I bet I told you that. Did you? No, I'm not sure. She did teach, I think, Will Ferrell, and that class of people. That's true. Kudrow taught Will Ferrell? I'll say this. I think Romy Michal's history is so good. I think it's, I truly, it's my

thing that I'll watch when I'm like in the worst mood. I want to like give up on comedy and it's truly a joke a minute like – or a joke in 30 seconds. And they're all funny jokes. And Lisa Kudrow is so like effortlessly funny in it. It's like – She's a true – She's an inspiration for sure. The fact that she was like a biology major at Vassar.

I didn't know that. She was able biology major I know I didn't know that She was able to turn it around You didn't know that? And she got out Biology major at Vassar She turned it around Have you seen her commencement speech? I know almost nothing about her

I only have seen Naomi Michalas' reunion And Friends And I like Friends To this day But I think that Lisa Kudrow If you watch it back Friends holds up But you really realize

That comedically Lisa Kudrow truly carries it on her back She her back everything like she has to get dumb just to like keep like the mat leblanc afloat you know i know for sure she was doing all the work um no watch her vassar commencement speech it's really it's wonderful did you know two things did you know that lisa kujo improvised the monologue in romeo and michelle's high school reunion about how she created glue. No, are you serious? Literally, that's an improvised monologue. Because she gets really technical in that monologue.

Yeah, and there you go. That is using your degree. Yes. Right there. Oh, right. She used her biology degree. Because did you know this? She majored in bio at Masser. Yeah, I actually didn't know that until now.

Okay. Also, a second thing I have to say is, Pat, you are growing your hair out. No, I'm not. Yes, you are. Oh, my God. It looks good. What are you talking about? Stop it.

I'm not my facial hair. For one, I really feel like this about my hair. I feel like I invented my haircut. It looks really good. I think you should keep growing. This is always a problem I run into with my hair. For one, right now, I didn't shower shower this morning so it's like natural oils like right those are important to it when i shampoo it won't look like this anymore absolutely identify with that for

two um it won't stay this length like it'll grow my hair always reaches one point where it looks just right but i can't freeze it in time critical yeah so that's something i struggle with struggle with. But I think that also because there's no kind of design behind my hair. Sometimes it does look how I want it to look, but I can't control when or where. So even as recently as three hours ago, it looked shitty, and now it looks good, but I can't. Well, that's the crux. I'm sorry, that's not the right word.

That's the double-edged sword of having short hair is that it's hard to style and tame. We all know that pat regan's minority is white gay with uh hair you can't tame that's that's pat regan's minority his specific that's my diversity identity politics also am i and as per my face i think that i never have wanted facial hair but i just like i'm used to being someone who doesn't have to shave every day or even every other day okay and now in my late 20s mortifyingly i have to um i have to shave like every other day and it's like i forget i forget so hard so what is so hard what are you looking at spots and i have and it's like sure sure it grows in the air we

all have patchy but sometimes it goes grows in fine it's like oh you have a little scruff and it looks good but again i can't control it so listeners at home pat has a little bit of scruff i think it looks this is i think it looks really good i think i think we need to take a photo of pat right now and post it um and also you should use it for his tinder but pat i'm not on tinned okay you're not on tinned i have a quick question before we get to tinned pat what are we looking at right now? Like, no shaving for the day? Right now, I don't even remember when I shaved last. Probably, like, honestly, probably, like, Sunday.

Okay, so it's been, like, four or five days. Yeah. This looks good. This is a good one. Yeah, yeah. And then, like, for hair, like, I just thought yesterday, wow, I don't remember when I got my haircut last, which means normally when I have that have that remember it means that I'm thinking about it and usually when I'm thinking about it it means like it's probably

time because like you know what annoys me and this will be fascinating for the listeners at home who cannot see this it's like the sides here get too bushy the burns and it looks gross to me and I feel like it makes my ears look gross and all of a sudden like I don't

feel sexy. Oh, no. Well, no. That can't happen. We all have to do things to make ourselves feel good and sexy because we all deserve that. Ladies at home, I want you to repeat this mantra at home. I deserve to feel sexy.

Come on, girls. I deserve to feel sexy. Thank you. This is also a self-help podcast. Wait, do you guys still do the thing where you find rules of culture? We do. We pepper in some rules every now and then. What are you saying? You're not a listener? No, I actually haven't.

I'm so bad with podcasts in gen. But if I did listen to a podcast, this would be a podcast I'd listen to. Do you think so? We're at the top of your hypothetical list. Here's a quote from Dan Glaser once said. That's similar to that. God bless. Dan Glazer once said this quote.

People don't understand that when I say I almost made it through the first episode of your web series, that's a compliment. Of course. It's a huge compliment. Yeah. The fact that you clicked on a web series that I made is huge. The fact that people listen to this is huge. Right. No, it's genuine.

It's so self-indulgent. Because us. It's so self-indulgent. Because us doing this is so self-indulgent. What? I mean, to a degree. No, it's also like... I'm kidding. It fully is. I am not a podcast person.

Yeah. So I'm not sure how much people are listening to other people's podcasts. But I feel like it's rare to listen to people's podcasts. Except for this podcast, I feel like it's rare to listen to people's podcasts, except for this podcast I feel like does get listened to. I wouldn't know what podcast to recommend to you, Pat. I wouldn't know what... One time my cousin's girlfriend's mom took my phone and downloaded a bunch of podcasts

and, like, talked to me about podcasts for, like, a family party, and I left that family party thinking I was going to listen to podcasts, but I just didn't. People tell me to listen to Bitch Sash because I like the Housewives. Oh, yeah. You know what's a podcast that I feel like a lot of gays listen to is... I would say What's the Tea? We all know What's the Tea.

We mention that a lot, but Throwing Shade. And now it's going to be a television show. It's like a bitchy gay podcast about celebrity and pop culture. Brian Safi, and I don't know the woman's name there's a woman who's very funny yeah I forget her name

whenever I listen to like something like that where it's like a bitchy gay I'm always like I always get like I'm always like it should be me and then I can't enjoy it

and that is the tragedy of the gay community is we just can't support each other can't support each other yeah it's true can't support each other

we're not happy for anyone that deserves it that's sam smith he should be lifted up absolutely first oscar faith first gay oscar first gay oscar winner of all time and pat pat had a famous line about that i have famous what was your line i say that and i use this even to this day in my stand-up as a dated pop culture reference, that I see that people always get mad at Sam Smith for saying he was the first gay man to win an Oscar, but he didn't mean that. Literally, that's just something you get to say if you're gay.

Oh, I love this joke. If I ever win an Oscar, I'm going to say that. And should I ever go to space? I don't care who's been to space. I'm the first gay man in space. Yeah, absolutely. Remember when Lance Bass was truly going to be in space oh right what a gay thing to do you know i didn't so much care about that it's okay i cared more that lady gaga was supposed to be the first performer who's going to have a concert in space wait in 2015 what happened to that right what

happened she was supposed to be on the virgin like space cruiser in terms. What happened to that? That's how it feels. What happened to that? She was supposed to be on the Virgin Space Cruiser. In terms of what happened to that, I think it's quite obvious that is logistically unfeasible. That's actually really real.

I was so looking forward to that. And she's now in a group. I guess she wants to be more grounded. You know, I used to hate Lady Gaga back in her initial,

I feel like this is her kind of second life in a way, in entertainment. Is that true? Would you agree? I would say that she, like a phoenix from the ashes, has risen. Thank you. And that's what I meant by that. And I used to, in her first iteration, she annoyed me.

But I think I might have been straight even then. So maybe now, things I liked when I you i died it all flip-flops like did you know that when rosie was when it was rosie versus donald i was on donald's side oh my god i was 19 i mean so what what my mom used to call rosie o'donnell quote too opinionated and so i know that's how i felt that's long island and rosie versus elizabeth i was on eliz side. Oh, that's just inexcusable. But Elizabeth, I liked her from Survivor. I know. When she was Elizabeth Falarski.

We can talk about this all day. Maybe we will. Right. I will say that I don't begrudge you of a Donald fandom. Because I loved Donald Trump during the impression. Yeah. I was just 19 and dumb. I thought Rosie was obnoxious.

And that's what I subscribed to. And also, what was I going to say? Oh, and that's, I think, why I didn just 19 and dumb. I thought Rosie was obnoxious, and that's what I subscribed to. And also, what was I going to say? Oh, and that's, I think, why I didn't like Lady Gaga, too. I remember there was always a news story where she would be at a Mets game, and she'd rip her shirt off for no reason, and I'd be like, and nothing is enough. Or she would take someone's seat. Didn't she take Seinfeld's seat once?

I think in his Yankees box. I think, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she did that once. And then she ripped her shirt off. Am I adding that part? I like it, yeah. I think like in his Yankees box. I think yeah. And then she ripped her shirt off. Am I adding that part? I don't know. I was pretty out when she turned herself into a plane. She turned herself into a plane.

She was like a flying dress and was like I'm so happy to be the first plane woman. And it was like during an art pop promo and like she flew around. I want to be the first gay man to be a plane woman. But wait what else was I want to be the first gay man to be a plain woman. But wait, what else was I going to say?

Oh, also, oh, I wanted to use this to like our conversation from a couple of conversations He wants to use this as a platform. I knew you had an agenda. Okay, what are you,

what are you using? No, to talk about, because you were talking about Lance Bass and I want to talk about Gay Batch. Has anyone been watching Gay Batch? I caught an episode the other night. And I think it's truly bad.

It's so bad. Can I tell you what episode I saw? I just want to clarify to listeners. By Gay Batch, I mean Finding Prince Charming. Kind of gay. Finding Prince Charming. Now, Gay Batch is definitely, I wish, is what it was called. Gay Batch.

It should be called Gay Batch. Honestly, that was such a home run. They fucked it up. I hate when people take ideas and fuck them up like that was on like the gambit but also i think this watching it like i was watching i'm like maybe this just maybe like marriage is for everyone but bachelor is just for straights you know what i mean like maybe god made that like just for straight people because it does feel like it's just not right like something about it like doesn't quite i mean the logistical question that i've had since the beginning is like what's stopping all the gay guys that are the contestants

from fucking each other and like right at each other like you really you legitimately can't what are you gonna do go in there and like like sandra bullock and ben affleck like be a forces of nature like and handle them in a certain way like i don't understand so for one i think this like for one gay batch is much hotter than all the suitors, except for a couple. I truly think. I can see looking at it and being like, yeah, he's hotter in that I think about a hotness in an objective way. I guess he is a hotter person in that you would see him on the cover of a magazine before any of the other ones. But I'm definitely more attracted to a lot of those other guys.

Well, I think that almost none of them are in terms of having a hot personality. Gabe Axler himself has almost certainly just come from a lobotomy in every episode. And for two, he's objectively hot. By the way, I know someone who did get a head from him. Great. In the community. In the community. And that's all I'll say. I guarantee. Wait, him. Great. In the community. In the community. Oh, my God.

And that's awesome. I guarantee. Wait, mouth. Can you mouth? Can you mouth? What? I don't. I literally.

I'm mouthing. It looks like he's saying. It looks like he's saying. We don't say what it looks like I'm saying because maybe someone will be able to get it. All right. Well, it looks like you're saying something wild. Okay, Pat. So was it good head? I don't know.

I actually didn't talk to the person. I found out through a second party. So, Pat, let's just – it sounded like you were going to use the pod to do something. Oh, no, no. It's still a bit of a bad show. Oh, you just want to bring it up. Oh, yeah. Was there a treatise on gay badge that you wanted to –

So for one, I think it's really bad like gay batch is so bad for two it's like yeah it's like all their dates are like to a yard to do outside yoga and for two like um like like this is a moment from gay back oh so for one all the people are like not as hot objectively as you were saying like as gay batch but also like personality wise no one's hot and like it's a bunch of shitty people right it's a bunch of shitty people there's one kind of funny one on it and he is like not even that funny but he's the only he's like try to find a not funny gay person and like all of these people are so not funny except for one who's like kind of funny but he thinks he's like too funny and like Is he the little

the femme one? Yes, the little femme one. The last episode I watched, the only episode I've watched is when it's the final four Oh, I haven't seen yet. Oh, I haven't seen yet. And the sister is being such like a knowing like reality TV bitch. She's like

so basically are you here for friendship or for romanticism? I look at you and I see friendship. And the one little blonde guy is like, is that what you think? To Robert. And he's like, and it's like a talking head of Robert being like, my sister is definitely someone who speaks her mind.

And it's just like, Jesus Christ. It's just so recycled. I love when someone comes into reality TV now understanding the assignment. I feel like that blonde one, this is my favorite quote of him. Him and another one went on a two-on-one date with Gay Batch where the date was doing outside yoga. The yoga portion went well for this blonde one. The blonde one already had a good connection with

gay batch from his previous date where they made a scent they made a i heard about this yeah so they went and they kissed and then like this date they did outside yoga and then they each had like a section of the date to have a conversation with gay batch and uh the um so the blonde one his sex his second part date was walking through a barn so they walked through the barn like past and he did that didn't go well for him so they were talking and he was like yeah the conversation seemed really forced and then they cut to the conversation and gay bachelor's like so what's your favorite color and and the kid goes uh well i actually really love all the colors but i do identify with blue it was really crazy that's so stupid because at

that point it's like how did they fucking make the top four or five or whatever he ran to me but he because he is like kind of the only of all the contestants with a really good body you know what i think that probably went and i think that if you see gay batch has a really good body he probably wants that that's probably why you went on the show. I don't know. It's just like – I have to say I truly don't think that the Gay Batch is good looking. I think if you want to look at him as like a specimen, as like a piece of meat, like he's like hot. I think once you add his personality, it's – yeah, it's like awful. But I think as a physical body, he's attractive. I have a theory that Gay Bat was deliberately

designed at every stage to be like the antithetical opposite of Drag Race. Because here with Drag Race you have these entertainers, these people who must rely and peddle in personality.

The whole show is about self-love and self-acceptance and like all this stuff and you're working towards professional success but meanwhile Gay Batch is like completely shallow, like so stupid so frivolous, completely devoid of any

personality. I think that's just the other side of the reality show coin that Logo wanted to like chuck off. Yeah, I could see that but also like then they should have gotten like hot like physically hotter people like some of them it's just like there's no they're like oh like there's no way oh if you look at straight batch like everyone there is like has a porn caliber body and like is at least like can they're like they're like they have conversations, but in a way that for some reason is at least compelling to use Chopin. I identify the most with Blue is what you're trying to listen in on.

And they're not even that – But all the buzzwords were there for me in the show, which is what – I was checking my boxes. I had to hear the words going into tonight, and I had to hear the words I'm definitely falling for Rob. And I heard both those things so I'm like what are you going to say? It absolutely delivered on being what it said it was going to be. Because it's stupid as fuck and they said

those things. I wanted like more. That's fair. I didn't want it to be good but I wanted more. Well what do we feel about Lance Bass on the show? My favorite thing is when Lance Bass comes in the house and he's like, fellas! And then they go, Lance is here. Lance is here.

We know something's going to happen when Lance is here. I just loved it. It's the most excited any people have been that Lance came into our room for a long time. I don't know. He's fine. He's whatever. Lance is someone who is friends with a lot of people I respect,

but he... Like who? Jamie Lynn Sigler? Sure. Lisa Vanderpump. Yeah. Yeah. They're close friends.

Do you respect Lisa Vanderpump? 100% as a businesswoman, as a reality star, and as a restaurateur. I respect Lisa Vanderpump. As a restaurateur. But it's like him I don't see it. Right. Like it's like he's I don't see it. Right. Like, it's like he's not necessarily interesting by association. Yeah.

I'm like, why are you friends with him? I don't get it. Totally. But maybe he's more interesting. But I've seen him on, like, Watch What Happens Live, and he's still boring. I don't know. Of course he is. For me, it's just like, don't be boring.

You know what I mean? Don't be boring. Don't be boring. That's the, oh, that's just like the death knell or whatever. Like, that's just like the, thatell or whatever like that's just like the they were all boring to me as a gay person

and that's like a reality person like do you watch regular batch either of you no I literally can't bring myself you know what

is a good gateway to regular batch what is batch and pair yeah batch and pair batch and paradise is literally so good

and it's so but what's the difference have they only had one season of Batch and Paradise there have been three seasons what is Batch and Paradise so Batch and Paradise

is during the summer it's a resort in Mexico where just like singles from the Bachelor world Bachelor universe just come and live and kind of hook up

oh so it's like an all-star season it's an all-star season but and then like at the end of every week there's um a rose ceremony and people have to leave if they have no one who's like interested in themstar season. It's an all-star season, but at the end of every week, there's a rose ceremony, and people have to leave

if they have no one who's interested in them. Oh, I'm trying to fuck them up. And by the end, during the end of last summer, there was three engagements. That's huge. Yeah.

Three engagements? Three engagements. Pat is holding up three fingers to drive the point home. Three engagements. And, well, so there's this one girl who's been on,

I think Bachelor only once, but she's been on, also, because some people have been on Bachelor itself like a couple of times. Sure, yeah. But this one girl, Ashley I, has been on, hasn't been on Bachelor only once. Ashley I. They call it, and she always brings drama, so they call her Ashley I of the storm. Oh, no.

Wow. No, but everyone hates Ashley I because she gets so emotional, but she's, to me, very interesting. And I won't ever hate someone like Ashley Ai because I think all that Ashley Ai is guilty of is, like, feeling, you know? Absolutely. But she's always crying. She kind of looks like a Kardashian cousin. And she just, like, she's a virgin, 24-year-old virgin, which is beautiful.

And she, like, she was was gonna lose it to this guy she met like four days wells because he was kind of like a bachelor you you were if you were in the bachelor university would be a good get to lose your virginity but um can i ask you a question when you mouth the name of the person that got head from robert seppelveda junior before were you just saying their last name at first i just just said their last name And then when I was looked at Do it one more time Just last name? No, full name

I can't believe it It's loud and clear It's loud and clear And I am devastated I know Okay, so Batch and Pair, great gateway, you're saying. Yeah, oh yeah.

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We talked about this before. Totally. Culture that shaped you. When did you say that culture when would you say culture was for you this is funny i think that my answer during last episode to this was reality no it was lisa kujo was romey michelle's high school reunion okay that's how we got into that lisa kujo place but you know what i'll change answer. The culture that really did shape me the most is Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Cool. Okay, yes.

I think I do remember this being an element of your answer. Yeah, I think I said both of them. I wish I had a vocabulary for Buffy. It's so good. It's like one of those things like Gilmore Girls or like Veronica Mars

that people really like. Oh, I love Veronica Mars. But I just missed. See, for me, I hate Gilm, but I love Ron. Why do you hate Gilm? I just feel like Alexis Baudel does not make a single choice with any lines throughout the entirety of the series. Yeah, but meanwhile, but Lauren.

No, I'm done with Lauren Graham. I'll pass on Lauren Graham. Lauren Graham is the whole show. I don't know. I just feel like she's likable, but it feels like she's working so hard to be likable that it exhausts me it's a little bit too much quirky girl yeah a little bit too much she pulls it off at the end of the day she is likable but it feels like she probably goes home and like is asleep as soon as her head hits the pillow because she's like worked so hard to be likable but why do we vilify her for that

i don't vilify her i'm just like he has an opinion i can't sure okay yeah i'm just like I can't I'm exhausted I'm exasperated I have nothing left to give to Lauren Graham but I do and then Alexis Baudel just the opposite like give me something

like Jesus Christ she was good on Mad Men did you ever watch Mad Men Baudel was on Mad Men Alexis Baudel was I did watch I actually think that literally everyone

on Mad Men was good because the writing is so good see I watched Mad Men but I didn't see the last maybe season or two seasons. You must have missed like the last three because I think she was on— Or I could just not remember. Honestly, maybe you don't remember. I remember being shocked when I saw her in the show just because she's in such a problem.

I'm picturing you watching Mad Men with like a gap, with your mouth like jaw on the floor. I was just like, my jaw just dropped. I'm like, Alexis Pledel? Like later on in the show when Nev Campbell jaw on the floor. I was just like, my jaw just dropped. I'm like, Alexis Padel? Like later on in the show when Nev Campbell was on one episode. Oh, I didn't watch that. That would shock me. Yeah, she played

literally a woman on the plane. I love Nev Campbell. Yeah, she was fantastic. Oh, and that's another piece of culture that did shape me is Scream.

I love Scream. Really? You weren't too young to watch it? I didn't watch it maybe when it came out but I watched it young and like maybe

when I was like seventh grade I watched it and I think that I was like in love with that movie because it was so funny and it was so scary

and it was about like teens in a way that I like always have loved. I also like truly love the first scene of Scream.

The sequence of Drew Barrymore like it's so good it's so defining. And I love the first scene. The sequence of Drew Barrymore. It's so good. It's so defining. And I love the last climactic scene. They're both so good. Did you see Scream 4? Yes, and I loved it.

You did like it? I love Emma Roberts. You love her? Tell us why. He loves Emma Roberts because she's a great bitch. I don't know why she's a great bitch. I love her in Scream Queen Season 1 so much. I don't know why she's a great bitch. Like, I love her in Scream Queens season one so much. I don't know.

Now that Scream Queens is an anthology, like, I don't know that we need Scream Queens and American Horror Story. Sure. But I, and I only watched, like, I didn't end up watching all Scream Queens. But I love the pilot of Scream Queens is so good. And it's also, like, joke a minute also. And so I love Emma Roberts in that. I love her in Sc 4 like there's i've never seen her and like not loved her i want to see what's that movie she's in like recently that's

like there's a game on your cell phones that teens are playing and you have to like jump off of a building for points oh i know what you're trying yeah i want to see that and it's like her in her underwear um did you watch american horror story no i watched the first season i loved it but that's also because i love love connie love connie i mean she's a i loved her can i tell you brief brief brief tinge i just went to universal studios and i did the halloween horror. But it's not unlike you. Well, anyway, there's an American Horror Story themed haunted house and I do not watch American Horror.

Like, truly can't deal with anything. But you don't like horror? No, don't like horror. Don't like to be frightened in any way. Famously, Matt could not get through Stranger Things after this deferred. I actually couldn't. No, I didn't even try to watch

the first episode. I'm too scared of even the thought of it. I watched Henry Watch It, and it was too much for me. Honestly, watching Henry Watch It might be too scary for me, even. There was times when he was gasping, and I just didn't like to see that. So for American Horror Story, Haunted House. They did the first season, they did the freak show season and they did Hotel

so I'm kidding you not there was a Lady Gaga actress who was jumping out and it was very titillating and horrifying and my sister we got out of the haunted house and she was like you guys need to go home

and watch American Horror Story and know how well done that was. That was so well done. And I was like, absolutely not. But basically what I'm saying is that American Horror Story haunted house is a thing. And then what was depicted in it was those things in the black latex suits. Oh, yeah. They were very scary. Wait, that was in the first season. The first season. Yeah, that was hot. I guess it was those things in the black latex suits oh they were very scary that was in the first the first season yeah that was hot i guess it was hot i was straight for that and there's a lot of

like gay stuff in it i know but you know who's the hottest person on that show bar none evan peters in the in the in what season all seasons oh no there's the guy in the first season is really hot. Evan Peters, the blonde guy. No. What? Oh, Dylan McDermott. Yeah, he actually is like a hot daddy guy from my childhood. Oh, yeah. He was on a show.

I've never seen him before. I wasn't familiar with him. I think he was on a show called Dirty Sexy Money on ABC when I was little. And I used to watch him and be like, oh, that's. When you were little. It came out in 2008. Yeah, I was so little in 2008. Not a lot of people know this about me, but I only got big in my 20s.

Anyways. Connie, can I just say about Connie? Sorry that I took us on that tangent. No, I think we need to go down. I'm glad because I would have never even remembered about Dylan McDermott. Connie Britton is the best part of American Crime Story people versus o'dave simpson wait did you watch american crime story you would know you would have loved selma blair i love that and all that whole crowd because they're very like real hot stars at beverly hills too it's like oh sure yeah that's

like all like every once in a while real hot stars at beverly hills there's like a new character that comes in and someone's like oh were you friends with that group someone's like, oh, were you friends with that group? And someone's like, no, I wasn't friends with that group. And they mean the group of people that were friends with Nicole Brown Simpson. Yeah. It's like very fun. Was Faye, is Faye Orange County? Faye is Beverly Hills.

Beverly Hills. But Faye is someone who like pops up in every reality. Like she's on like the Kardashian sometimes. She's like always around. She, when I say understands the assignment, that is actually a quote Danny Visconti once said about Faye Resnick. She understands the assignment, that is actually a quote Danny Visconti once said about Faye Resnick. She understands the assignment of being on reality TV. My favorite Faye Resnick moment was once in this past season of Beverly Hills.

Oh, what was it? So there was a new person, Catherine, famously whose husband, Faye Resnick, alleged in her book that Nicole Brown Simpson had an affair with before she got murdered. This is like drama so this man I think is now in the picture but his wife is now friends and his wife was now like on the cast and she joined mid-season and she said like

she said this she said I don't carry a dagger for anyone but I carry a dagger for Faye Resnick oh my god and then she like they were at a dinner party and like which is like faye's always lurking around the dinner parties of that show and she was like um so she's sitting across from faye and she's like starts trying to pick a fight and like she's like just like saying mean things to faye and like she's getting all worked up and then faye

like says something back i forget what but then she like interrupts herself and goes oh and you look beautiful tonight by the way it's just like such a good move I love it oh my god that is you should watch American Crime Story though because I feel

like Pat's favorite scenes would be all like the ridiculous scenes where the Kardashians pop up like dad come on let's not wait in line

at the restaurant and then like they had this truly stupid scene, an otherwise amazing, brilliant show, where the first scene of episode three or four is like... Rob Kardashian. Robert Kardashian is taking the girls and Rob out to brunch.

And he's like, I'm sorry, how long is the wait going to be to the hostess? And she's like, oh my God, you're that guy from television. And the Kardashians look at him and he's like, yeah. She's like, I mean, it's an hour wait, but I can get you a table. And they basically bring the Kardashians over to their own table and all the Kardashians are like, cool, amazing, dad, they love you. And he says to them, David Schwimmer, call back to friends, says to them, now, now everyone I want to tell you something you

should be treated well because you're a good person not because you're famous and it's so fucking heavy handed but I like this is how the Kardashians were made that is how they were made in that one moment at that one restaurant the thesis of American crime story

is wow what a shame that he got away. Also, this is how the Kardashians were made. So, callback to last episode where one of the rules of culture was have to mention, where when you have to mention something, you always have to mention it. Yeah, have to mention. I have to mention that, for one, David Shimmer,

like, I can't stand him, but I am, like, so attracted to him and sorry to myself. Especially in that piece of content of, I to him inside of myself especially in that piece of content of um i'm so sorry i mean that piece of art that is the um american crime story because i've seen like bits and pieces of it you think he's more attractive in that than he is on like friends i just i yeah i guess i don't know i saw it and i was like oh he's like really attracted or maybe i just didn't remember how attracted i was to him in that inference. He is like beguilingly attractive. Yeah, what is it?

But you hate... I don't know what it is. He's like, oh, you don't? It's like, I wish I didn't. Right. Because once you see it, you can't see it. So who is your favorite male friend? Shrimp?

Sexually. Sexually, Shrimp. Really? LeBlanc all the way. No. Not for me. Oh, LeBlanc was like an early game. Schirmer's the only one that, yeah, I guess.

For me, LeBlanc is too heavy-handed. But Schirmer gets that too. I think that, I don't know. I think LeBlanc got actually way hotter as he's gotten older. I think he's more attractive now on episodes and shit. I like him when he's way young, in young. Like, in the very early Friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like him when he gets, like...

I don't like him for late Friends. And Chandler, like, maybe personality-wise. I wish I could say I got the Matthew Perry thing. I don't really get it. Does anyone get it, though? I think people get it. I mean, I think... I think a lot of people get it.

I think a lot of people are, like, attracted to his personality. Which is, like, a very female thing to say. Did you know that? It is. I love his personality. Did you know that Matthew Perry went to rehab three times over the course of Friends? I think for Joggy's Bow.

Cocaine and alcohol, I think. For his personality. For his personality. I recently read 145 facts you never knew about friends. For some reason, that was shocking to me. But wait. Do you love Jennifer Aniston?

I love Jennifer Aniston. I love her too. I really don't respect people that don't like her. Neither do I. My mom doesn't like her. Why? She kind of only doesn't like her but is it because why i'd love to she kind of only doesn't like her like in like relative to courtney cox and she's voting for trump no that's good um i don't get i feel like i feel like not liking jennifer aniston is a very trump

voter i think my mom loves courtney cox and she feels like courtney cox gets overshadowed i understand but also like she probably doesn't care anymore. This was years ago. But one time she said, I love Courtney Cox. I've known Courtney Cox since Family Ties. Did you know that Courtney Cox was the biggest star when they started the show? Yeah, Family Ties. In Leah Remini's book, which is just an incendiary read.

Wait, whose? Leah Remini. Who is? You know, of the King of Queens. The wife of the King of Queens. I hate her. Scientologist. I hate King of Queens Scientologist. I hate her.

Former Scientologist. You don't like her? I hate her and I hate Kevin James. Definitely gotta say, Kevin James, no thanks. But Leah Remini, I say, thanks. No, she was mean to my dad once. She was? Tell us.

That's such a Long Island story. Tell the whole thing. He used to work in ad sales for Viacom. But before that, for UPN, I think when Hersha... I don't know what the... King of Queens was syndicated on UPN, I remember. But I don't know what the deal is with that. But I just know that he had to be in her park at some point, and she was mean.

Oh, that's unfortunate. That's so unfortunate. I know. I hate when celebrities are not nice. Tell me your heroes. But wait, do you, what about her book? She wrote a book. It was called like The Escape from Scientology.

It's definitely not called that, but let's say it is. And basically in it, oh my God, what was I just talking about? You're talking about like Aniston and Courtney. Oh, oh, oh, oh. She says that she was up for the role of Monica, and then she saw Courtney Cox walk in, and she was like, we knew it was over. Well, Courtney Cox is uncommonized, but also Jennifer Aniston, her parents are famous, aren't they?

Or her dad is famous. Yes. And also, here's some tea on Jennifer Aniston. Did you know that she was offered to be a cast member on Saturday Night Live, and she chose to be on Friends instead? I mean, a trillion more dollars. Yeah. Yeah.

For sure. What would that have been like if we knew Jennifer Aniston as a cast member of Saturday Night Live? Things could have turned out a lot more differently. I feel like it would cut away now. We would see a different... Yeah, like we could go to that world

and like two of us wouldn't be here. No, I really... I enjoy Jennifer Aniston very much. And people that are always like, well, she has no range. I'm like, she doesn't need to have range. Also, I don't have any range. Yeah, I think that she's let herself.

Fuck you. I think she's let herself get too bogged down in tabloid culture. Like, look at Lisa Kudrow. Friends ended and Lisa Kudrow, she made web therapy just because. And she made the comeback just cause and she like like lisa kujo is like a comedian and jennifer aniston is a comedic actress who's pretty i think oh that is a big difference being a comedic actress and being a comedian. That is so real. But maybe Lisa and Jennifer's experiences at Friends sort of shaped their trajectories a little bit. Because Lisa was always seen as the comedic crutch of the show. And Rachel as a character was like the ingenue.

That's true. Bowen has pulled up a Pat Regan status on his phone. And I'm wondering what selection you're about to read. I have to say pat one of the funniest people on facebook ever oh my god stop it he's given out this accolade recently i have i've said i texted you and i texted henry about it i'm like literally pat is killing me on facebook and henry goes been my number one for a while and henry does have rankings that he he's very you know you don't think he's watching you all but he's explicitly... Henry, he's very...

You know, you don't think he's watching you all, but he's watching you all, and he's got a list. Absolutely. And look, I have to co-assign, because, Pat, I think this is some of your best work. I think this is one of your most iconic posts. I'm going to pull up my favorite Pat Regan. Let me ask you this.

Does it reflect in the numbers? Because sometimes it doesn't. It doesn't reflect in the numbers, which I think is just a true travesty. But I'm going to read this one first. Cool? Go. This was, okay, I'm sorry.

Just to contextualize this. Oh, my God. Wait, this is my favorite, too. Yeah, read it. This was after the third debate. And Pat had this whole run about Tiffany Trump's number, like what she wore. Her number! And so this is.

Her ensemble, we should say. Her ensemble. This is what Pat posted, like, sort of as, like, not a button to the whole series, but, like, as a piece of the whole thing. Yes, it's so good. It would be a fun piece for, like, a morning talk show to have

Ivanka... I can't read this! Okay, let me start over. I can get through this. It would be a fun piece for a morning talk show to have Ivanka and Tiffany come on and give Chelsea Clinton a makeover and go through her closet and throw out all her bad clothes and teach her how to have star quality. And at the end, they walk her down a runway in the studio

and she is so confident with her new look. And the host says, Chelsea, you look absolutely stunning right now. Let me read it, bro, because you're portraying. But the important question is, how do you feel? And she's like gushing. I feel amazing. So confident. I know with this look, I'll definitely have the tools to succeed

I'm really glad I listened to Tiffany and Ivanka and then they bring out her friends and family to react to the new Chelsea and it's just Hillary looking nonplussed like I've worked so hard for women though tears down my eyes.

It's so funny. Oh, thank you for reading my piece. Of course. Why aren't you going to write a book? What? When will you write a humor book? You're such a storyteller. Oh, I know.

Get on the mic, you idiot. You've got to talk into the mic. This is seriously insane. I don't know that that's... Also, don't withdraw when people praise you. Yes. Accept. So sorry.

I'm so sorry. I accept the praise. I accept so sorry. I accept the praise. I accept the praise. I accept the book deal. I brought you here. No, thank you. I am so intrigued by Tiffany Trump. Yeah.

I don't know why. Something about her, like, she did not exist. Like, okay, so in season... No, she didn't. In season five, Buffy, or in the season four finale, like buffy'd been the only child like throughout the series and no and then the in the finale what was her friend but in the in the um finale her mom was like buffy like go like watch your little sister and then like michelle trachenberg comes in as dawn her little sister who's in it for the rest of the series and we've just never seen her

then it turned out that she's like a key that like uh like some like forces like uh implanted memories in the entire uh in in like everyone's minds to like ask that buffy would protect her like extra special because she's like a key to like hell or something i love i love but that's what like it feels like with tiffany trump it's like she's never like literally there have been like interviews where they're like this is your only child, right? I didn't even think that the brothers were real before this election. It was just Ivanka. And it's like, okay, fine.

The brothers are real. And then now it's like, Tiffany Trump, where did you come from? But I'm obsessed with her. It's like, you know what? I get that fascination because, Matt, this will be a reference that you and I get. It's very much Lexi Gray season three. 100%. Yeah. I mean,

Pat knows too. Pat was a huge crazy fan of me. Yeah, but you don't still watch. I'm like, I'm not this current season, but I've watched,

like when this season goes up on net, I will watch. Wow. Oh my God. I will say about Luxie Gray, they did, Shonda did plant the seed

for Luxie in season two. Yes, and. They mentioned her. Yes. Right, yes. No, I recently went back and I recently went back two. Yes. And. They mention her. Yes. Right. Yes. No, I recently, like, went back and. It's genius. I recently went back and re-watched.

And they do mention her. She's a med student at Harvard. Yeah. Like, when Meredith's, like, mother or whoever is in. Thatcher's. Thatcher's daughter. When Thatcher's wife is in. So it's like, how's Lexi?

And she's like, oh, she's in Harvard. I remember. I saw that. Yeah. Brilliant show. And that's what I like. That's what I like about those shows that you could tell there's planning. Because then it's like legitimate storytelling and not just making it up as you go.

Where is Kyler Lee? I know. Is that who played Lexi? Where is she at? Is that who played Lexi? Yeah. I know. And you know who else where is?

The woman who played Teddy. I love her. Oh, Kim Raver. Teddy Kim Raver. Our favorite. Oh, Kim Raver. Teddy Kim Raver. Our favorite. Wait, no, no, no. Bowen and I for years

have been raving for Kim Raver. Did you watch her on 24? Yes, Audrey. Did you watch her on Lipstick Jungle? I wanted to but I literally

couldn't fathom watching that show. No, she was in Cashmere Mafia. Right, right, right. Yes, oh my god, that one. I don't know. There's one more

that's like the Kim Raver trifecta that I'm not getting right now. 24, Cashmere Mafia. She was in some Second City TV short. Oh, was she? Yeah. I've never seen it. With Tina Fey and Amy Poehler and Rachel Dratch.

Oh, my God. We need Kim Raver. Kim Raver is like the real deal. I love her. Do you know Kim Raver? To me, it reminds me of a time when Kim Raver was the actress that you were always pleased to see on television. And that, for me, also at that time was Sarah Paulson.

And Sarah Paulson... Wait, who is that? Sarah Paulson? Oh my god, American Horror Story. American Horror Story. And she also plays Marcia Clark on American Crime Story. Big television actress. What does she look like?

She was in Carol. I've never seen Carol. Truly... Who was she in American Horror? She's someone different every season. It's an anthology. I've only seen first... Okay was she in American Horror? She's someone different every season. But who was she in... I've only seen first... Okay, I knew that.

Shut up. I've already established I've only seen first season. So who was she in first season? She plays like a real estate agent on the first season. Oh, I love her, but I don't remember what she looks like.

Okay, well, you'll... I'll Google it. She plays Lana Winters on the second season, which thank you, Ryan Murphy, for that gay ass man. Wait, what was I going to say? I was just going to say that Sarah Paulson, of course, has now

blown up and I wish that Kim Raver would blow up in the same fashion. But she did blow up. There's some people that just blow up on TV and I'll give three examples. Two of them we've already discussed, so it's easy. One of them is Kim Raver. Ravers, whatever. Please say who I want you to say okay i don't know

if i will the second is lexi gray's character like uh i mean lexi gray's actress the pilot also not another teen movie right before and right before she got on gray's there was like uh um i'm remembering an entertainment weekly article that was like this is these are people who like the industry wants to be successful but they can't be and she was right before she's on Grey's Anatomy or not even right before a bit before she was on a show that I watched with my dad that was like about a group of friends I think it was called reunion yes reunion it was so good and she was on that show and they cancel before you solve the mystery I love those shows that are like a mystery there's everyone i don't watch harper's island or like um oh my god it's like a it's like a murder mystery like there's murder

mystery shows i love i'm on edge of seat wanting to know what the third person oh okay the third person is i think her name is emily van campen yeah emily van camp yeah she was on brothers and sisters and she was famously on revenge and she was's the lead of Revenge. And she was also on her start on Everwood. Yes. She's big time. She's big time, but she's only on those non-Shonda nighttime soaps. And when you've done that many nighttime soaps and you've never worked with Shonda, there's a story there.

You know what I mean? There's a story. Maybe she might be diff to work. Or Shonda doesn't like. Diff. She might be diff to work with. No, I get the sense she's such a pro. Don't you?

Sondra? No, Emily McCann. I think she's actually really, really good. And also so fun to see her play like a fun bitch. I know. Because she had played all these kind of like goody-two-shoes characters. But your revenge?

No, I only caught some episodes. Revenge is so good. All right, I will Netflix that one. It's really right i will so bad i will netflix that one it's really bad but good you have to watch the next one i make and watch it's really good to just netflix and watch the entirety of it because it's fun to watch something good like right now we're watching veep but also i want to watch something just bad yeah that's really good for that like it's bad in the right way where you're like like every every moment's like it's like a tense like glare between like two socialites who have like secretly murdered

each other yeah so you didn't nail my what i wanted you to do you didn't say who i wanted okay who did you want me to say i wanted you to say elizabeth mitchell who played juliet on lost and then they gave her the show v which was about the aliens coming to the starring Marina Baccarat as the reptile. I feel like her... Marina Baccarat has for some reason exploded. Wait, I don't know who that is. She played the truly boring wife on Homeland.

Oh, yeah. And now she's on some other show. Oh, yeah, I hate her. She's gorgeous, though. I think that... Oh, but with Kate? Oh, Juliet. I was thinking of Kate... Oh, but with Kate... I mean, not with Juliet. Oh, Juliet.

I was thinking of Kate. No, Kate, Evangeline, Lily. Juliet is the blonde. Juliet's the blonde who is truly amazing. And America fell in love with Juliet. But I felt like she was never really in anything else. She was the star of ABC's next big sci-fi show. And it just didn't really work.

It just kind of didn't end up being that great but she's an amazing actress and she was in Santa Claus 3 as Tim Allen's wife. And that's something. It's just kind of funny now who doesn't even want to act anymore and she only does blockbusters is Evangeline.

Evangeline is like, you know, I'm not interested in really acting anymore but she will be in the but she will be in the occasional... Occasionable. She will be in the occasional... Huge fucking movie. You know, I recently posted this, that, like, it's not fair that Blake Lively has a post-Gossip Girl career and Leighton Meester doesn't. Because Leighton Meester...

Much better. ...didn't go into that show being who we were going to talk about because it was supposed to be a Blake Lively vehicle but Leighton Meester just did amazing work throughout the entirety of it. But then someone posted that she's about to be in a sitcom with Adam Pally. Oh, that's cool. I think she'll be fine.

I think she's worked. I just haven't seen her. Blake Lively's in them but I guess because I was friends with Taylor. Can I tell you one thing that I think it works to Leighton Meester's detriment is she is interchangeable with another soap opera scene. Rachel Bilson. I was about to say Rachel Bilson. But all the OC people besides Ben McKenzie aren't really working. Right.

No, I know. Another tragedy. Well, Rachel Bilson is in Magnum ice cream bar commercials, and she's also in chapstick commercials for kind of just a generic chapstick right now. She's in commercials for chapstick. But I want the actress who played Kirsten, I want the actress who played Marissa's mom. Kirsten was amazing.

They were such good actresses on the show. No, you know who is amazing is Joy Cooper. Joy Cooper, yeah. Melinda Clark, baby. Yes, Melinda Clark. So good. Yeah. And can we talk about Nicolette? Nicolette Sheridan.

Nicolette Sheridan. Let's exhume her. Wait. Famously was slapped by Mark Cherry on the set of Desperate Housewives. The title of this episode is Can We Talk About Nicolette? Even though we never did. Can we talk about Nicolette? Even though we never did. We talk about Nicolette. The answer being

no. I was never a Desperate Housewives person. Hold on. Before we move on from Nicolette, Matt, you and I have to talk about, we talk about this regularly, but her character Edie's death on Desperate Housewives. It's so good. Epic. Just her being chased

out of her house. She dies four different ways. She dies four different ways. It's like a domestic dispute in her house. She gets choked out. She gets choked and then you like and there's so many fake outs

for her death so she gets chased out of her home after she was strangled and then she gets into her car. It's pouring rain outside and then she gets

into a car accident but that's not it. She gets out of the car. A wire has fallen. A wire has fallen somehow and then she walks into a puddle. She's sopping wet and then she accidentally somehow gets her hand on the

exposed wire and just dies. I think literally what it was was the wire had fallen into the puddle and she stepped in the puddle and got electrocuted in the pud had fallen into the puddle and she stepped in the puddle and got electrocuted in the puddle death by puddle wow just what a crazy fuck and also she tried to kill herself early in this early in the series when she tried to hang herself because carlos didn't want to like be with her anymore what a stupid truly i have these questions about this

about um desperate housewives we can we have answers Number one, whatever happened to Terry Hatcher? Number two, remember when that was going to be like Marsha Cross was back and was like, back from what? And whatever happened to her? Number three, who is the best of all of them? Oh, absolutely.

Let's answer in order. Is Nicolette on the same level as the rest of them? Boy, oh boy, you couldn't have asked better questions. Answer fantastic questions, Pat. First question, Matt has alluded to this in the past. I believe it was on Sudi's episode of Lost Culture Recess. Whoa.

Terry Hatcher is one of those actresses, much like the guy who played Matthew Shepard. No, not Matthew Shepard. Matthew Shepard. Oh my God. Oh my God, no. The guy who played Dr. Shepard no not Matthew Shepard oh my god oh my god no um the guy who played Dr. Shepard

on Lost um uh Matthew Fox Matthew Fox Matthew Fox Terry Hatcher will come back

every 15 years and you're like are they dead and we'll be like were they dead where have you been and then she'll have her like

moment where she wins a golden globe is like wow couldn't have been more of a has-been and now I'm back and then she literally would disappear

right she lives for vindication. So the answer to the question is relative. We don't know. We don't know what's happened to her. We don't know where she is. Second question was Marcia Cross. Yeah, well, it's kind of the same question with her. I think Marcia Cross, wasn't she like a

teen heartthrob? She was on Melrose Place. She played like a villain on Melrose Place and there was a water cooler episode where she took off her wig and revealed a huge head scar. I truly don't really understand what was the big deal about that. I think she was an alien. I don't know if she was an alien, but I think she, or I don't know.

I don't either. It'll be funny if she's not an alien, but also, but yeah, but think like Desperate Hot Spice was like the same for her too, right? Where it was like her big comeback. She was amazing she was fantastic she was they all were amazing and then it was kind of strange when they were all up for emmys except eva the first year oh we know that terry hatcher will win the emmy for her portrayal of susan because she's really the star of the show and also the narrative of like Terry Hatcher coming back but then they gave it to Felicity Hoffman and it was wild

no this was the Emmys okay but the Golden Globes remember this? No Golden Globes Terry Hatcher won. No no no remember this Golden Globes was this it was Terry it was Terry Marsha I forgot about Felicity. I think even even Eva was nominated for the but then guess who won?

fucking Weeds Weeds leader Oh I hate her This might have been another year Because the first year They were all nominated Terry Hatcher didn't win The second season And then the second season

They were all nominated And all lost All lost to To Mary Louise Parker Mary Louise Parker Thank you But I don't like Mary Louise Parker

But for the Emmys It was true shock When Felicity Hoffman Walked away with the Emmy Right Because they thought Terry was going to win Now this bleeds into

your next question, which was... Oh, is Nicolette Cherry on the same level as the best of them? Your question was, who's the best? Oh, right. That was four. That was question four. That was question four, Nicolette. And the answer to who's the best is actually, scientifically and

statistically, Eva is the best. Wait, why? Because she's the best. She was the best comedic actress. She was also very good at the dramatic stuff. Was very, just a very strong actress. Wait, see, right. Eva is the best.

She was the hottest. She was the funniest. She was the best with the one-liner. And she is my number one comedic influence. I think that number one. I'm not kidding. Really? She was very good.

Whatever happened to her? The way I delivered my one-liners. Is she so around? Eva Wood. She was on a show it was like they were trying to like do like a send up of telenovelas remember this last show

I think it was called telenovela oh yeah it was called telenovela and then she she like executive produces some stuff

and stumps for Hillary a lot and stumps for Hillary thank god and posts on social and posts on social and your answer to the question is Nicolette

Sheridan as big a deal as the rest of them? Well, this led to a lawsuit, honey. This led to a true lawsuit. On the show, I mean. They started to act like, yes, she was, but really, the fun of Edie Britt was always that she would pop in and be like, Susan, and say something

like, truly bitchy, and like wash her car in her lingerie, and be like, oh, I just figured I'd be like, Susan, and say something truly bitchy and wash her car and her lingerie and be like, oh, I just figured I'd wash my car and be really, truly like, sorry, everyone out there, but this is true. She was the slut. She was the evil slut. She was great. She was the bitch goddess, which is what you need on the show.

So good. I feel like they started that series. It was going to be like the next Sex and the City, and it just fizzled so hard. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever. I think that I forgot about Felicity Huffman and i think i like her the best i will say definitely the best at being tired desperate housewives did have a good run at being like this the night soap that had like season-long arcs that were solid it was such a good show in the first season i

recommend everyone watch the first season it just got so bad i love those shows that are such there are some shows that's like if you stopped writing this after the first season. I recommend everyone watch the first season. It just got so bad. I love those shows that are such... There's some shows that if you stopped writing this after the first season, it would be perfect. Glee. Glee. To an extent. I think two shows to me are if this show stopped at the end of the first season, it would be to me truly perfect art. But

that's the nature of television. If it is successful, you have to just keep making it up then it becomes worse. One of them is you have to just like if it is successful you have to just keep making it up then and then it becomes worse. So it's like one of them is Friday Night Lights. That's up to being written after its first season

would be truly perfect. And also Girls also the same way. I actually think the last season of Girls was the best. Really good season. I think that

go back and watch the first season. I'm not saying like Oh I think the first season is amazing but I think this last season was really good. I think it was good but I think that the first season. I'm not saying like... Oh, I think the first season's amazing, but I think this last season was really good. I think it was good, but I think that the first season was unbelievable. I think that

this last season was watchable and good, but I think that it has had some unwatchable seasons in between. Oh, there have been some clunkers. But I think that this season was good, but there are still some moments that just don't feel real. There's no grounding to them or it just feels made up, but the first season really felt like very good

honest yeah like very specific you know there's an episode of the first season that's called all adventurous women do yeah and it's the one of the best episodes of television it ends with hers dancing to they dance to dancing on my own and also that's the episode which has her fight with Andrew Rannells in the bar. Oh yeah. It was nice to see you. Your dad is gay. Oh yeah.

So good. So good. Foreshadowing. Foreshadowing. Spoiler alert. But anyway I'm very happy that we talked about

Desperate Housewives. Me too. Me too. Even though I don't watch it I'm glad too because no one talks about it and I hate when people act like something

never happened and I feel like all of america acts like desperate housewives never happened well i will say this and i think i've said this to to you definitely before matt um desperate housewives like ushered tv back into like narrative stuff right for a while like 2000 to 2004 it was like reality reality reality reality that's why they're called the real housewives is it was because desperate housewives was a huge hit and they were like okay let's do a reality show with people like this they wanted to combine the two hits of that

moment which were the OC yeah which brings me to the last thing I'll see the first one I see was the first one the last thing I'll say is that I truly love looking at beach well we didn't tell you this is over yet so that's not gonna be the last thing I'll say is that I truly love Laguna Beach. Well, we didn't tell you this was over yet, so that's not going to be the last thing that you say. No, but I'm just saying the last thing I'll say before I die.

That's going to be the last thing I say. I truly love Laguna Beach. I truly love it. And Pat drifted away. It was so crazy. He got up out of bed. He looked at us. And he said, I truly love Laguna Beach.

I truly love Laguna Beach. She went into the light. Wow. Don't you, my favorite scene of television, of movies, of art, of literature. You share yours and then we'll all share ours. Mine is the scene from the first ever episode of Laguna Beach where it's Morgan, Elsie, Lo, and Christina. I love that I named Morgan first. All sitting around a table on the deck planning a party with notebooks.

And they're like, okay, let's plan a party. And they all write notebooks. And someone's like, well, it should be like something cool. And someone's like, I know, black and white. And it's right, a black and white affair. And they all like write it down in their notebook. It's so funny. My favorite scene of film television history.

And keep in mind, that one's mine, so you can't take it. Yeah. I think we all were going to say that. What a horrid, horrid question. I have mine. Should I go first? Yeah, you go first. My favorite scene in all of cinematic history

is the scene, the last scene in the episode of the OC when Samara Armstrong's's character anna leaves to get on the plane and she's leaving seth cohen and he's begging her to stay and she says cohen i have to go and basically she leaves and there's a beautiful song that plays while it's playing if you leave and i remember crying and i remember i started crying without knowing I was going to cry. I just started to cry. And my mom was like crying as well. And I was like, oh my God.

I guess you guys, you were good. We know. We love the OC. What happened when she said, confidence Cohen. Wait, was that the end of the first season? That was first season. It was first season. What a good show.

Anna was like a character that like really came on and just like was supposed to be a recurring part and then all of a sudden her arc was up and I was just like, oh my God, this character cannot leave. We've already fallen in love with her, which is a line from Desperate Housewives when they come to get the baby

from Gabrielle and Carlos and Gabrielle goes, we've already fallen in love with her! And then never forget when Gabby did this insane thing where she fixated on the toy. Yes, that was a beautiful moment. That was crazy. So they took this toy. She like personified this toy that she found as a baby. And she literally couldn't let it go. She was getting crazy.

She was having a nervous breakdown. And also, never forget the scene where she let the balloon go in the park. Yes, first season. Because they were trying... For second. Because she didn't get nominated for an Emmy, they were trying to give her a more dramatic heft,

since that's really the only thing that was missing. Because her first season was all about fucking the long guy, right? Exactly. I mean, her first season was just to be like the sassy one. The sexy one. The sassy, sexy one who like fucked the high school kid who was literally a 30-year-old man. When you think about that, to fuck a high school kid is crazy. It's fully crazy and I literally can't believe it happened on that show.

Bowen, favorite scene in all of television or film history? Favorite scene in all of television, film, art, as I believe Pat said. Or art. Or literature. Right. Or literature. Grey's Anatomy. This is controversial season.

Season five. Ooh. I don't remember it. Oh, my God. Sandra Oh comes home. I forget what the context was. It's not in the episode. It's in the performance and in the delivery of this one line.

She confronts Owen. Yes, I know this one line she confronts owen yes i know this scene she confronts owen about something and she just like really really like owen's over there season five yeah yeah so stoically she just like late season five or early season six i might be getting this wrong but she stoically like takes him to task and then matt you know this line and then she ends this like just delivers it devoid of emotion. Then it all cracks at this last line. Yes. She goes,

Yes. And it will... You took a piece of me. And that... And it will never happen again. Sandra Oh. Goddess. Icon.

Goddess. Icon. I love her. Television. I love her. Screen. Goddess. I love her. The fact that she never won an Emmy for Grey's Anatomy it means the Emmy's should be cancelled

can I say something that really happened to me there was a year it was Sandra Oh's last year on Grey's and it was one of her last it was actually I think her last episode of Grey's and she where she talks to Merida he is not the son you are I think she had an episode after she where she talks to Merida he is not the son

you are I think she had an episode after that where she was the narrator of it you know what I mean and it was like it started with like her being like who are you how did you get who are you where are you how did you get here and it was like those

and it's like how did and it's like her that's what you say to a patient to like let them like to see if they're like cognizant and then it like ends with her being like who are you like where are you and it's like it was so good i walked around new york city for a full like four months telling people that i thought that that episode should have been nominated for an emmy award an episode of season 10 of grace and annie oh my god she didn't stop doing great work i mean she totally could have hung it up but she she kept doing great work till Anatomy. Oh my god. She didn't stop doing great work. I mean, she totally could have hung it up, but she kept doing great work till the very end.

Oh my god. Oh my god. Wait, no. There's so many great Sandra Oh moments. Like, how about... It's not difficult. It's unbearable. Wait, when is that?

Oh my god. In the second season when he's interviewing all them no no no this is in season four where she has to report that she fucked a person

yes yes yes here it is a detailed report on my sexual history satisfied and they're like we have to do this it's like our job

like sorry sorry sorry and she's like it's not difficult it's not difficult it's unbearable but it's like attached to a whole monologue it's so good part That's not difficult. It's unbearable. But it's like attached to a whole monologue. It's so good. Part of that monologue, she goes,

I am... Oh my God, so good. I was his hand. I was his hand. And now I'm a ghost. And now I'm a ghost. And the best is when... For that, I want to be on my tombstone.

When she says, she goes, I was the unseen hand to his brilliance. And then she literally, a tear rolls down her face and she looks away from the camera and she goes, excuse me, excuse me. And then she resumes the monologue and like, it's just, it's so fine. It's so fine. And also never forget. Somebody sedate me. me wait when's that first season oh my god who are you who do you claim to be season one season two it's been a while but also um remember that stint where it's like her and mr feeney in minnesota mr feeney the guy who plays mr feeney oh my god no i don't remember that so she remember

they take their boards or whatever not their board like they're like um i think it's yeah their boards the one that yeah yeah the one that kevin or fails because he's fucking jackson oh this is so i i'm so late at this point okay well wait can i just say it would have been really nice if christina yang like meredith gray's best friend to like fly back from europe to like check in on with her after her husband died i know and that's my biggest problem i think with gray's best friend to fly back from Europe to check in with her after her husband died. I know. And that's my biggest problem, I think, with Grey's Anatomy is they started it out with all these characters and we bought into the world and everything

and then it's like, oh yeah, and then Izzy left and never came back because we don't like her. But also, I'm Shonda Rhimes and let me just give Isaiah Washington a chance again because I don't really care though he said faggot. And I will save this for my I don't think so, honey said faggot and I will save this for my I don't think so honey

okay I want to say one more thing attached to that I want Addison to come back for one episode Addison Addison couldn't come back for one episode

totally one of the best characters she was one of the best characters no the answer is no because Grey's Anatomy is a husk of its former self right but like Addison

oh that entrance line her first line oh what does it begin hi you're sleeping with my husband. So you're the woman that's sleeping with my husband. And you must be sleeping with my husband. And now they ever,

whenever anyone cheats with like, truly since then, whenever anyone cheats on their spouse, everyone's like, what, Meredith did it? And it's like, it's not the same. Everyone always acts like it was like a husband. She lit didn't know. I know. Meredith lit didn't know. She lit didn't know. I know. Meredith lit didn't know.

She lit didn't know. Meredith lit didn't know. And also she was Christina's person. One other thing I'll say that I meant to say. You are my person. Is when you talk about the OC. The OC is an example of a show that would be perfect if it stopped. Remember they did, they opened it up with the first six episodes like before, like in

August as like a preview. Those six episodes should have been like the whole series. They should have ended it right then. It would have been perfect television. I thought the should have ended right then and it would have been perfect television. I thought the full first season was fantastic. It was good but

the second season is where it's fucking at. No. Grey's Anatomy? No, no, no. Oh, the OC. I threw back to OC. No, the first season

was perfect and then the literal first episode of season two was Marissa screaming and throwing that chair in the pool and that's when you knew it was over.

The OC started with a six episode build up that ended with them coming out of Tijuana with Ryan carrying Marissa's screaming and throwing that chair in the pool, and that's when you knew it was over. OC started with a six-episode build-up that ended with them coming out of Tijuana with Ryan carrying Marissa. And I had my favorite moment of all of television, which is when Ryan— I know, like the second episode or maybe the first where Luke punches Ryan in the face and says, Welcome to the OC, bitch. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's like the first episode. I always do that to people.

The whole Oliver Trask. Oh, so good. So good. New, new, new thing to people. The whole Oliver Trask. Oh, so good. So good. You knew. You knew. Thank you. The New Year's kiss. Oh, come on.

We thought Oliver was going to be good in the beginning, and then all of a sudden he was fully crazy. I remember it was like one of those Fox promos that were like, next OC. And it was like, Oliver, no! The screen goes to black and you hear a gunshot. Yeah. And it was like, oh my god. He was fine a second ago.

Yeah, exactly. He literally wasn't a mental case a second ago. Let's move on to I Don't Think So, Honey. Wait, no, I want to say more. I don't know my I Don't Think So, Honey. Last time it was people who came for Selena, but now no one's coming for her anymore, so I have to be true to that.

I mean, no one's coming for her because I think she's really sick, right? Isn't she not well? She's in rehab, I think. But not for drugs, though. Oh, maybe. I think she might be in rehab for her mental health.

Oh. Sometimes they're connected. Sometimes. I honestly don't know what's going on. But I think I literally read something that was like, they made a clarification. They were like,

she's not going to rehab for drugs and alcohol.'s not going to rehab that's for drink drugs and alcohol she's going to rehab to work on her well-being if you're famous you can be hospitalized for exhaustion yeah that's true um all right i have a good i don't think so honey i actually i have two and i'm gonna do to do 30-30. 30-30? Okay. Yeah. All right. This is, this is unprincipled.

Are you going to time me? I'll time you. Okay. All right. And then do I, should I just end you at the first, or what's the deal? Okay. No, you know what? I'm only going to do one.

Okay. All right. All right. Ready? Great. Yep. Matt Rodgers, I don't think so, honey. Time starts now.

I don't think so, honey. Shonda rhymes. And you know what? I bet a lot of people are going to be very surprised to hear me come for Miss Shonda today because I obviously love her work. I obviously am a fan. Long time fan. Long time listener. First time caller to you,

honey, because I have a bone to pick with you. And guess what? You might have thought you got away with this, but you didn't. How dare you? I don't think so, honey. Give Isaiah Washington a homophobe a second chance on your show and then constantly still drag Katherine Heigl in the media. You better stop pretending to be all about women when guess what? There was one woman out there who was a little outspoken, and then she gets kicked off your show, and you constantly drag her through the mud when you have no reason to.

I don't think so, honey. Isaiah Washington called T.R. Knight a faggot in the middle of the woods, and you thought it would stay in the woods, honey. If a tree falls, maybe no one sees it. But if someone says faggot, they get punched out by Derek Shepard. And guess what? The media knows. And also, Shonda Rhimes hates gay people. There, I said it. Just because one rim job on ABC does not make it okay to bring Isaiah Washington back,

I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. Oh, my God. Some people think if you lick a butt on primetime TV, it remains all bridges. You think Shonda Rhimes hates gay people. I think that Shonda Rhimes, um,

uses us as props, but never, I, why never a gay man in grace except for one episode arc because Shonda Rhimes doesn't really, she didn't care about gay people until she needed to break down a new frontier and she's like what haven't I done yet oh yeah rim job on television

also I think that like I don't watch here's the deal I don't hate Shonda Rhimes and I'm like I'm pumping this full of air because like whatever but I will say that like it's not acceptable that she gave Isaiah Washington a second chance like that.

And be like, oh, well, it was to wrap up this character and this relationship. And it was like, fuck that. Because there's never been more, like, plot lines hanging than with the Izzy character not returning. I mean, there's so much investment in that character early on. She became a lead of that show. And then for her to just go away in that way. Like, literally, they should have just killed the character off. character early on she became a lead of that show and then for her to just go away in that way like literally they should just kill the character off i mean we all know that famous monologue

at the end of season two two but and that did make her leave but i think that for us to for it to be equal we need to see alex leave the show i mean to see what she does for that because if alex left the show and she didn't bring izzy back then it would be the same but she if she if her defense is because she wanted to wrap up all your strings of christina and she like't bring Izzy back then, it would be the same. But if her defense is because she wanted to wrap up all your strings of Christina and she owed it to that character, then I think we need to see Alex leave, if that makes sense. Isaiah Washington called T.R. Knight a faggot

and then he said the word faggot again in the press room at the Emmys. And he just was ugly and he's a homophobe. No, I agree. Why did she give him a second chance? I don't understand. And then drag Katherine Heigl in the media as if she hasn't been drug enough.

I don't think she's that bad of a person. Give me a break. Neither do I. And she's in? What is she in right now? She's in a CBS show with Laverne Cox. I don't really know. And also, I'll never forget, when that all happened, Katherine Heigl was out there to

the press being like, this is really upsetting me, the fact that he said this and he shouldn't be speaking in public. And I will defend T.R. Knight to my dying day. That's my really good friend. And I'm like, wow, that's really cool and exciting that she had his back and that's her friend and everything. And she wasn't afraid to say anything. But she doesn't get any accolades for that. She only gets shit for the stuff that she said. For example, with calling out knocked up

for a little bit of sexism which i'm sorry but watch the movie like it is a little bit sexist like sure like whatever but like i i think it was like kind of anti-feminist of like the everyone involved the katherine heigl thing i think it's really kind of a shame yeah and i don't think so honey okay all right wow i have to of mine. I'm really nervous. That's okay. I'll go next. Maya, I don't think so, honey. Matt, do you want to keep an eye on the clock for me? Yes. Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey

starts... Okay, I'm sorry. Can we start that again? Because you did not say the word now. I just thought it was intuitive. Sorry, it wasn't. Okay, you ready? It starts now. I don't think so, honey.

People at Shanghai Disneyland who cut the lines, especially at rides like Soarin' over the world, over the landmarks of the world, when it's a three-hour wait, mama, people in China do have no sense of decorum and waiting in lines, respecting the queue. They cut, they cut, they cut. They snake through the sardine-packed lines, the little maze of whatever people that are just trying to get on fucking Tron light cycle run.

They say, excuse me, excuse me, I have to meet my parents who are waiting for me up front. Bullshit, you have your parents here with you. You're there alone because, look, it's a one-child-only policy. You're there. You're used to being alone. And I see right through you, honey. I don't like this disregard for the basic rules of society, honey. China, you are a farce of a country.

I'm ashamed to be from China. That's one minute. Bowen Yang is ashamed to be from China. You heard it here live on Last Culture Recess. Maybe not live. That was a heavy, I don't think so, honey. They both have been pretty heavy so far. They've both been heavy.

They've been heavy. Yeah, that opens the doors. It's a reflection of our moods. Bowen is going through something right now. And it's Bowen's birthday. Are you just tired? I'm tired and this is an adjustment week and I'm just having to

consider a lot. What's adjustment week? You got back from China. Didn't you hear his I don't think so honey? Yeah. I just hope there's not something really wrong. What do you suspect is mercury in retrograde or is that the excuse that i always make but i want to save you but i can only save myself that's a shitty song from the second half of Prism by Katy Perry. I love that.

I was trying to give Pat more time to think. Okay, now I have one. Now that I realize it doesn't have to be about necessarily pop culture, but like just about the world around us. You can do anything that upsets you. Anything. Totally. I'll give you the time, Pat. This is Pat Regans.

I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey, about people who shame me about posting on social too much or about ever being on your phone ever. Because people act like if you're in a conversation with them that you have to, have to, have to be engaged. But how about you? Engage me.

And you know what I mean? I have my phone. Let's not ever guilt anyone for being on our phones when we all do it. I don't care if I'm staying on the subway steps and you need to sidestep for a second. Because guess what? Can't we all like take a deep breath and not roll our eyes quite so hard at each other for being on our phones and second secondly i will always post my truth on social media on facebook.com on twitter.com no matter what and i will do that i will post every single thought that ever answers into my head and i have a right to do that and

for those of you who do not post every thought that comes into your head, well then I feel truly sorry for you that you're so ashamed and embarrassed or that you don't have thoughts that are interesting enough to post. And honestly, I will never not once ever again feel badly for speaking my truth because I used to do that and guess what? It almost killed me.

Is this going to be what saves you? Yes. That's one minute. Beautiful. That was wonderful. That's one minute. Beautiful. That was wonderful. God, what a fun episode. And the last thing that I'll say is I truly love Laguna Beach. Guys,

you can catch Pat Regan when he returns to Loin Knights someday. You can also catch him on Twitter at P.O. Regan. And it's really... Yeah, I knew it. I knew it. He's my favorite little present.

I love that. I will say, full disclosure to the listeners, I came into this episode a little flustered because Pat had a hard time finding the building. Well, no, that's not true necessarily. But I had to go outside. I had to go outside and try to find Pat.

We just missed each other and Pat went into the wrong building. That's not true, Ben. Well, Bowen, I have to say, you're commended for doing a really good job of hiding that. But no, look, we've come a long way since that, haven't we, Pat? Oh, totally. Yeah. And I want to say, too, that my maps on my phone said that 250 Mercer was up over Waverly, and it's, in fact, several blocks below that. Absolutely.

And then I want to say that the man inside this building directed me to the wrong elevator shaft, and I went up to the wrong pillar. But that is where I met my husband, a hot man man who told me where to find the B building and how did they tell you that you would do sexually in Europe he didn't mention Pat what's the last thing

you'll say I truly love Laguna Beach and can we talk about Nicolette thank you guys last but not least I'm Matt Rogers

and I'm Bowen Yang and that was Pat Regan our guest thank you forever dog we'll see you guys next time bye yeah forever

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