Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Choices, Honey" (w/ Chrissy Shackelford)

Episode Date: January 18, 2017

I got news for you, bitch — this episode of Las Culturistas has hills & valleys. HILLS. AND. VALLEYS. Your Culture Tsars Matt & Bowen are joined by the radiant Chrissy Shackelford (@ChrissySh). Though the repartee is amicable at first, it eventually devolves into the most contentious moment yet on the Las Culturistas podcast. Aside from this drama, Culture Topics include Chrissy’s Orlando Plans, WB’s “Popular,” Jeremy Piven, the 2017 Award Season, "The Devil Wears Prada,” Your Inner You vs. Your Outer You, Winona Ryder, Wynona Judd, Ashley Judd, Horror Movies, and much much more.LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh my gosh, can you believe it it's time it's time to grow another episode it's time to grow um we are here let me just i want to just take a quick second to take stock take an inventory of all the catchphrases that have really truly organically sprung up on las culturistas i was thinking about this the other day We've got You Can't Even Get Your Life Of course I don't think so honey Yes All the doodah day Ticks and tacks and look there are more coming honey

Did we just create another one? It's time To grow. Well that's one between you That you and I have had for quite some time For many years. You guys are getting a true glimpse Into our friendship and you know what? Today on this episode you're gonna get an even closer glimpse into a larger relationship which is the relationship that bone and i have with our guests oh my gosh let's off and esteemed guests let's list the credits honey because you know they're important oh she is she is the star and

writer of her solo show diane Trangela presents Not Dry Yet. Yes. At the UCB theater. You can see it running. And she also is on the UCB mod team, The Classic. Classic comedy provided by The Classic. And she was also a former cast member in Characters Welcoming UCB. She teaches at UCB.

She is a queen. Take her class. Take her class take her class characters with chrissy shackleford and she herself is a character and you'll be hearing that today wow thank you so much chrissy this is a huge historic culturistas moment because your name has been dropped at least once in every maybe besides henry and sudi the most referenced person absolutely i would say thank you so much i am a mythical creature in this world i'm happy to be coming out of the forest i'm so happy to um expose yes an expose this is gotcha journalism from youtube journalism i want to be treated with

the same amount of love and respect that you treated your boyfriend on the last episode i will probably even more i'll probably even treat you better yeah because i was trying to be very like keep it professional which i know and then i wept yeah i was about to say like it didn't feel that way when that whole long like three minute ode to henry about how wonderful he is and he truly is he deserves every word you said about him but i don't know I will not be shaded for my love. I was going to say during that episode, and this is just the last episode, I feel like there wasn't enough of a reference to your relationship. We got here and I was like,

I was like, boom, we got to keep professional. We're not going to talk about me and Henry's relation. And then he was like, what? Boom was like, we must talk about it.

We have to. Why compartmentalize? I guess you're right. We're so transparent on the show why stop exactly why stop at the bedroom why why drop the veil now you know you guys are very transparent on this show and one of my favorite things i've told you both separately is how you're always coming back from a hiatus and i feel like offended that i am not on an episode where you're coming back from a hiatus i wanted to talk about it for. Because I wanted to talk about it for an hour.

I know. I wanted to talk about your hiatus. Chrissy did say that whenever she came on, she wanted the first about 45 minutes to all be about the hiatus. Okay, well, I mean- What have you guys been doing? Who's been to China? Yes, yes. Who had a hard time with an apartment?

Right. Chrissy- Who's going to Orlando soon? Who just went to Orlando? Wait, Chrissy, you just hit such a nerve. Yeah. I'm going to Orlando soon. At the end of January.

I'm doing four days at Disney and only one day at Universal. But I am going to Harry Potter World. That is how you do it, though. And have you been before? I went when I was four, so I don't remember. So this is my first time, yeah. Not to bring Disney into this, but it is a whole new world.

Since you asked, we're there. That was cheap. Oh my, time, yeah. Not to bring Disney into this, but it is a whole new world. Okay. Since you asked, we're there. That was cheap. Oh my. Yeah, it was horrible. Low hanging fruit. I'm ashamed. Wait, I'm so excited for you. And can I also tell you, I planned Nicole Silverberg's whole trip to Orlando.

And then she just told me she had to cancel it because Branson got, he's going to Slam Dance, the film festival. Oh, great. He's going to do a Katie Skeleton's film katie skeleton's film which is amazing which is amazing i'm so excited for them but also god damn it i know what a shame i have to say knowing nothing about anything you just said just hearing that slam dance is the name of a festival sounds like a middle school film festival and i'm sure it's very prestigious but if you tell me a film festival is called slam dance slam dance sounds like what you call it's like a spring formal yeah who's going to the slam dance but it's like the alt

dance yeah it's like right half the gym is like a basketball court for the for the boys who like don't want to dance and half the gym is like a dance floor yes now chrissy who are you going to orlando yeah tell us um i'm going with my sister and her husband and their kids and my mom. Oh, great. That's a good cross-section because how young are the kids? Well, she has five, so they are four, six, eight, ten, and twelve. Wow. She really pulsed those out two years. That's insane. It is insane because me and my siblings are very far apart in age. Me and my sister are ten years apart and my brother and I are five years apart.

So technically we're all five apart in age. Wow. So that will be very fun. So you will get, you'll be gagged because all the age groups are represented. I will see it through a child's eyes. And you'll get to do everything. Well, here's the thing. What?

That's a lot of kids to be going around Universal within one day. We split. I believe they split because they do this trip every year. So they'll be like, we're going to take the of kids to be going around universal within one day we split i believe they split because they do this trip every year so they'll be like we're gonna take the older kids do this one adult because now there's four adults for five kids which seems very manageable the littles are gonna go do the teacups while the olders do this thing okay i get you and a lot of them are like old pros except for the two the four-year-old one maybe yeah the four-year-old is like gonna wear her princess dress oh yeah just one of those really put your game face on the universal day because that's a lot to do in one

day but you can do it you can do it we've done it you need to get an express pass and you get a park hopper okay don't know what any of those words mean and i see me after okay consult with okay thank you so much see me after you're also gonna miss rachel winanski and david sidorov are gonna be there in february 28th oh very fun i missed them by a whole month and you would have just missed them right you would have missed me I'm going to just miss them. Right. You would have missed me, Matt, and Sudi because we were very tentatively planning a trip out there early March when Sudi was going to be on hiatus.

But then that fell through because financially it didn't make sense. So I did just miss you by a month and a half. By a month and a half. Absolutely. So you just missed. By the skin of your teeth, you missed us. Yeah. But the thing is, though, to plan a trip there right now is kind of a waste because so much

good stuff is coming to Orlando in the summer. Can I list just a few? Oh, boy. I really opened up a Pandora's box. After this, we'll move on. But I do want to say coming to Orlando this summer is Avatar in Disney World. Animal Kingdom is opening up the Avatar, the world of Pandora. Wait, is it based on James Cameron's film?

Yes, it is. No. Yes, it is. It's an entire world. It's going to be an animal kingdom. Okay. Because an avatar, obviously we have animals. I don't know.

I don't know. I never saw the movie. I just remember avatars like that Halloween, everyone in college, like hot girls painting themselves blue and have their tits out. Like that's what I remember of Avatar. Do you know how many times I got told I look like Jake sully not as a human as an avatar as an avatar they were like you look like jake sully when he becomes it's the white it's the wide eyes that's really that's sweet it's the large i don't think it is sweet it is always nice to be compared to a

celebrity yes it's always nice i when i was younger when everyone was doing that doppelganger day on facebook yes and i was like i don't know what mine was uh every one of my friends was like i don't really know yours either but i guess if i had to say maybe misha barton oh god was that at the time was it a compliment or was it a deep insult i don't think ever saying like i don't know if you have one but maybe something is ever come now I have to ask you Matt if there's an avatar ride where is the zero dark 30 ride some gender equality in the parks that's all what would the zero dark 30 attraction look like you do you follow Jessica Chastain into into the like into the compound.

It's a ride where hardly anyone goes on it, but it's critically acclaimed. You're right. Can you believe these sirens in the background? What the heck? Obviously, someone out there is like, come on, get to the culture that Chrissy experienced as a child. Yes, we will do that.

But Matt, anything else you want to plug for Disney? Yes, of course. I just want to say, moving away from Disney now, because of course we have Avatar opening. We'll see. There's going to be a ride where you fly on the back of a banshee. And apparently beneath you and in between your legs, you can feel the beast breathing. And you can feel the warmth of its body.

Apparently, this is what I hear. Okay. As yet unconfirmed, that's what I hear. And also, there's going to be a navi river journey apparently at the end you're gonna go through like this big scene where the tree of life is like amazing and lighting up and um sinking to the songs and it's like kind of like a family-friendly river journey with this amazing finale where you feel the beast between your legs very family-friendly i guess it would and then you get wet at the end you'd have to bring your

own beast on that one but um but uh i don't know then you get wet at the end? You'd have to bring your own beast on that one. Okay. Wow. But I don't know if you get wet at the end, but also apparently there will be bioluminescent flowers and all throughout the land. And when you touch it, the plant will respond to your touch. Who knows? But and then moving away, moving back to Universal, of course, we're getting Jimmy Fallon the ride. Yeah.

Replacing Twister, which is a real thing. If you want to ride Jimmy Fallon, head down to Orlando in April. Is it just a ride where he rides other celebrities' coattails? Oh! Is it just a ride where he keeps reminding us he's friends with Justin Timberlake? Oh! I don't think so, honey. You know Jimmy Fallon's a friend of the show now.

Jimmy Fallon is a friend of the show, providing Henry Kapurski an opportunity to meet the first lady, Michelle Obama. Okay, well. So watch your mouth. Jimmy Fallon did blackface. Yes. You're not wrong. That is true.

And never apologize for it, because no one ever really cared. And then brought back the Chris Rock impression at the Golden Globes. Okay, Chrissy, let's ask you a question. Yeah, that was insane when he did that, though. Yes. Chrissy, let's ask you the question we ask all our guests. What was the culture that made you figure out that culture was for you? Yeah, what made you say culture?

I might want to proceed into finding more about this culture. Yes. Well, as a huge fan of the show, I did think about this question. Okay. She came prepared. And many of my culture moments had been taken, I will say. That's okay. That's okay. That's okay.

You can read. But I have one that I am shocked you guys have never talked about on this show. Power Rangers. What is it? No. Okay. Beast Wars. Okay.

Let's keep guessing. Pokemon Girl. Well, who do you think I am? Sailor Moon. No. Sarah Michelle Gellert. Closer to who I might be but jennifer love hewart very good loved her episode of women's world where they did love sabrina the teenage i love no so tell us okay so the wb show that was on 99 2000 i put up a facebook status about like six months no seven seven did not shake my god my god i don't know i was really shaped by happy the dog and simon huffing paint

no everyone was shaped by the title and happy as happy we ever would she's gonna say like an everwood girl what do you think it is popular yes yes ryan murphy's popular i one i should say it was a huge TV on DVD girl. Remember when that was a huge thing? Yeah. When TV shows got on DVD. Me and my mom would watch that website called TV Shows on DVD. It would have all the release dates for shows that would come out on DVD box sets.

That is what you got for Christmas and birthdays is TV shows. Yep, yep, yep. At least for me. I got the popular disc sets season one and season two. I also watched it when it was on WB. Real quick, box sets were so expensive. Keep going. They were.

Oh, my God. Yes. And for no reason like $45 for like a season. Forget it. The $85 for like the big long shows. For like the shows that were big and long. For one season, you got $ got 85 let me tell you i'm calling you out name it you would be shocked how expensive some of these probably aaron sorkin

that assholes are charging for every word so popular popular ryan murphy show on the wbd do you guys watch it no it's the only it's n. No, it was actually pre-Nip Tuck. It was before Nip Tuck. Right, I guess so. And this is before I knew Ryan Murphy as a thing. It was this high school show with this ridiculous satire, but also lived in the genre of a high school show. But then out of nowhere, there's a character called Mary Cherry, and she's from Texas. And her mother is Delta Burke. Her name is Cherry Cherry.

There's one episode where all the women get trapped in a bathroom. It's called Caged because they're all on their period. So they're all like freaking out together because they're all on their period and they all reveal their secrets. Mary Cherry played by Leslie Gross, who's gone on to do nothing, which is a travesty. I mean, she pops up in some shows. She was on What I Like About You, that dumb Amanda Bynes show dumb amanda vine show oh wow yeah yeah yep yep she was like a friend um they're all comes up with this like one girl had uh webbed fingers and toes like that was a story on the

show and they treat it with like such uh like cliche not cliche what's the word um camp camp it seems like a campy show about high school which i feel like or you know you were Oh, like, not cliche. What's the word? Camp. Camp. It seems like a campy show about high school, which I feel like, or, you know, you were saying it's like a satire on high school shows, which probably wasn't really lampooned up until then, in the late 90s. What did you just say? Lampooned. He said it very strangely, but he said lampooned.

Excuse me. I speak multiple languages. He does. He speaks French and Mandarin. I'm so surprised. I'm not surprised he speaks lampoon. Excuse me. I speak multiple languages. So you were so... He does. He speaks French and Mandarin. I'm so surprised that this... I'm not surprised he speaks multiple languages. I'm surprised he's using that as an excuse. That my tongue is maybe not suited to certain words

when I say it very quickly. Is that what you say on dates? Yes. I speak multiple languages, so my tongue is a little fucked up. It's a little crazy. my tongue's a little crazy i love this i can't believe i didn't watch the show you must i still have the dvds they're the i've sold almost every if i ever want to get these i've had if i ever want to get horny real fast

you can just go you can search nip tuck because you know who i love who is the star of nip tuck what's his name julian something yeah julian something he i actually think is super duper hot yes he is and he got it in on that show sexy i know it was really just the feeling of that show is like this is what sexy feels like i know a young person ryan murphy's pretty good at that he's pretty good at capturing that like kind of like illicit feeling. I will say Popular was not a sexy show. And one of the other things that shaped me culturally is the movie Drop Dead Gorgeous. Oh, I love that movie. Come on.

Come on. I think actually one of the best comedy movies of the movie. What a stacked cast too. You've got Amy Adams, Denise Richards. Amy Adams in her first role. Yeah. In her first role. First role.

A casting call from that town that they shot in. Yeah, she was doing dinner theater. She was just a girl in Boulder doing dinner theater. Boulder, Colorado. And then she just got it. And now she's incredibly obnoxious. Look at her trajectory. Any one of us could be picked up in our little

town and then become an incredibly obnoxious star. You don't like Amy Adams. I like watching her act. I'm an Amy Adams apologist. I love her. Her Vogue 73 questions was so charming. Oh, I see. I haven't watched the only Vogue video that I watched was Taylor Swift's. Oh, that's terrible.

What is this series that Vogue is doing where they I just was like, they're mostly bad. They're mostly bad, but some of them and they're completely scripted, but they try to play it off as if it's like in the moment. Best part oflor swift's vogue 73 questions advice you'd give to a young singer get a good lawyer i love well this brings up another thing that you posted recently matt on your i won't say the word because you hate the site um that like photo series that the celebrities were doing of like this is my my outer life, this is my inner life.

I really hate when celebrities give little hints that my life is really hard. Yeah, secretly behind this, I'm just insecure and really a lot like you. And would you believe that someone actually came for me after posting that and said, and said, Matt, I hope that you said oh my god and said matt i hope that you become famous one day and you hate it and who said that to you was a fucking ann hathaway who

said that to you no you don't have to name names i won't name names i'll just say the person the person is no longer my facebook friend and i've never been happier amazing just a toxic person i don't care if for you coming to the defense of celebrities, if they don't have a sense of humor about themselves. For me, one of the biggest requirements for you as a person living your life is you've got to have a sense of humor about yourself. So when Anne Hathaway is up there like, okay, cool, yes, I'm going to do this project where I show my inner self and it's going to be miserable because I want everyone to know

that really deep down I'm very insecure. It's like, you know what, Anne Hathaway, we could guess that. We're people too. We don't need you grandstanding about it it's my biggest problem with like those people like i get what you're saying about amy adams because like she also did that in that photo series i think that was my start to being like and i was so disappointed with that because i'm like god please have a sense of humor about yourself like have fun with this i'm sure in her work she seems like she does. I'm sure she does. In her work, she seems like she does. Yeah.

I think, I don't know. I also think, you know, the thing is with Anne Hathaway is you consistently get the feeling that she doesn't have a sense of humor about herself. But with Amy Adams, I had never seen that before, so I was disappointed. But I just think there's nothing funnier than people who take themselves so seriously. I know. Like like it's just so it's so messed up by funny you mean not funny well i mean i i feel bad for them because obviously like they don't have like humor in their lives they're not able to see themselves like and and then like have a laugh about it like obviously they've got some other issues to work out like

and that that sucks i feel bad for them but also like if we're gonna have to look at you all day every day in the media like don't don't expect don't expect me not to be like i'm gonna poke fun at this because lighten up do you know what i mean yeah that's fair matt and i went to philly this weekend and we had we were listening to we listened to two full lady gaga albums in the car ride down there. Okay. And the conclusion that we reached as a car was she is great because she is so goofy, does not take herself seriously,

but also takes herself so seriously at times that it's easy to make fun of her. I think she knows that about herself. I also think, like what I'm saying is like it's an ebb and a flow. Like Amy Adams,

she might have had a weird day that day and was like, I'm actually going to really give in to this like indulgent part of my personality and do this weird thing. Whereas I gaga has had parts of her career where she does take herself super seriously and she doesn't succeed and her fans aren't as excited about it because we can see that's happening and then other times like when it's more joyful and

fun and you're actually just doing what you're put on this earth to do which is to entertain and to like you know make everyone happy and feel feel emotion like that's what you're supposed all i'm saying is one time she was in paris and the paparazzi were hounding her and so she put a bed sheet over her face and then pretended to be a ghost and said i love that and i i love that it's unimpeachable you cannot hold anything against her anyway but i will say there is something that and i noticed this during the golden globes that i feel like young celebrities, especially feel like they need to manufacture a humorous personality for themselves.

Like I, I'm, I guess I'm just remembering from when I was a kid and watching award shows like, I don't remember like Halle Berry or like Julia Roberts, like trying to have this outer personality of being quirky. It feels like this is something we are now asking of our younger, like Hollywood a-listers like Emma Stone and Chris Pratt.

And I love them and they are like probably humorous people, but it seems like something we are expecting of them. Yeah. You got to be able to kill it on a talk show. Exactly. And now you like can't really be an Anne Hathaway where it's like, no, I am just like a talented actor and I am probably a little crazy.

Just don't let me speak in public. Like, let me just like read a teleprompter. I like Anne Hathaway where it's like no I am just like a talented actor and I am probably a little crazy just don't let me speak in public like let me just like read a teleprompter I like Anne Hathaway's work I just think like you know she was probably asked to do that project and she has the ability to say no to it if the notoriety and the limelight

makes her so miserable and all this stuff if that's true then she didn't have to do this exactly you know what i mean very meaningful she probably thought she would reach so many young girls but also like fuck that photographer too who like i'm sure he came up with that idea and thought it was so novel and genius i know but then parts of it were fun i mean you see you saw the one that's right oh that Oh, that one was amazing. And it was fun. I mean, there were a lot of opportunities there to have fun with that project. And I don't care. I don't really care to see, like, just so you know, like, my real life is like, I am just like you. And I do sit in the dark.

Real quick. I don't care. I'm just like you. I sit in the dark. I understand. I get it. I just sit in the dark. I understand. I get it. I just sit in the dark. I know you're a human being.

Real quick, let's just do both of our poses right now to each other, and we'll just describe them to our listeners. Okay. Bowen, you're first. Bowen, how does the world see you? This is my outer life. He's smiling. He's smiling, and one of his shoulders is pushed forward, and he's got both hands flat

on the table. And he's looking up. And what is the real you? Oh, he's like a little mime, like a French mime. Like a French mime. He's trapped in a box. My mouth is going. His mouth is a perfect circle.

And it's almost like he's about to get hit by a car. No, I look like I just walked into a room that said surprise yes but you but you kind of knew it was but i kind of knew it was gonna happen yeah okay so now i'll do me this is how i think the world sees me outer life oh just a brilliant brimming over one shoulder okay this is very matt matt can vouch for this this is very taylor swift uh on the 1989 world Tour. Her first number, Welcome to New York. It ends and then she turns and then the song ends on a beat and then she, right on time, just tosses her hair back and looks to the audience right behind her shoulder.

Just like that. It was very good. I'm doing the Taylor Swift finale and I know that's how you all see me. I do see you as a Taylor Swift finale. And now who am I really inside? Okay. Okay. He's thinking like,

it sounds like he's thinking of the post. No, his pose is thinking. He almost looks maniacal. He looks like he's, he wants to telepathically move something. But he's like happy about it. Okay.

Now he's motioning for us to describe his face more. No, his eyes are very strained. He's smiling. It seems like he's trying to make his veins pop out of his forehead. Yeah, I don't like this.

I don't know what... It seems like he wants us to say a certain thing about his face and we're not getting it right. Oh, no. You guys were good. That's good.

Okay, and that describes how you feel on the inside? Yes. Okay, Chrissy, your turn. Like a maniacal face thinker. Okay. A maniacal face thinker. Okay.

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Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I turn my outer life. Here we go. Whoa! Oh, shit. So basically, this is how everyone sees Chrissy. She is fucking chill as fuck. She's got two peace signs up, but also the peace signs are not like...

They're like loose deuces. They're loose deuces. She's giving loose deuces. She's looking down at the table, and she's basically got a little smirk on. She's fucking chill as fuck. Okay, and now inner on. She's fucking chilling. Chill as fuck. Okay, and now inner life. Let's see it.

What's your inner life? Oh, she's putting her hood on. She's putting her hood on. Oh, and she's covering her face with her hands. She literally did what Anne Hathaway and Amy Adams would do. She's covering her face. You are part of the problem, Chrissy. She looks like a crazy ass ghost.

My inner life is nobody look at me. That's accurate. See, now now i'm seeing a different side to this whole amy adams and hathaway thing is maybe they thought it would be funny oh look maybe they thought they were ironic and above it yes maybe they thought they were commenting on the comment they always get which is you take yourself too seriously but i doubt it i don't know then somebody should have been there to be like and this doesn't read oh yeah read okay tell me your intention does not read we're talking about the women in this shoot but also can we talk about how bullshit it was when when john legends two things were

identical which i i don't know if that's a comment but like john give us something john legend i didn't sign up for john legend as like the personality me neither and all of a sudden we're getting yeah well she has my name I like her but she has my name and I that really is screwing up my chances in the modeling industry modeling like funny tweet industry

I'm a big John Legend fan I love John Legends music I just feel like I don't know like why all of a sudden are they like these don't why are you forcing John Legend down our throats it feels like that doesn't it and their relationship especially like any celebrity couple especially i feel like this has been happening a lot with dax shepherd and kristen bell is like oh so many news i like them and i like them both and i like them as a couple and I like their work. Yeah. But I feel like like Refinery29 which I really like

it just I see so many like relationship goals things like that. And I'm like I don't need relationship goals. They've just been together for a long time.

I think they genuinely love each other. No, no, no. And I'm not mad. You guys are coming for me. You guys are coming for me. You hate Dax Shepard. I guess I'm just saying

I never want to see like relationship goals. I actually love Dax Shepard. I guess I'm just saying I never want to see relationship goals. I actually love Dax Shepard. Been a huge Dax fan since Punk. You gotta be a Dax fan. Did not like Without Paddle. Oh, right, right. Without Paddle.

Wait, so Dax Shepard was on Punk'd with Caitlyn O'Connor, right? Who is Caitlyn O'Connor? From Always Sunny in Philadelphia, the blonde. Is that her last name, O'Connor? She was in... Caitlyn Olsen. Caitlyn Olsen. Caitlyn Olnor? She was in... Olsen, Caitlin Olsen. She was in Punk'd? I didn't know she was on Punk'd.

Maybe that was a later season that I didn't watch. No, she was definitely on Punk'd. She definitely was. Nothing more iconic than Justin Timberlake crying. Yes. Was that in Punk'd? Did that Punk'd? You know, I can't remember every prank.

I just can't because I was watching Jamie Kennedy experiment at the same time. Oh, wow. We're back on culture. Yep. We're back on culture. Well, here's another thing I want to talk about. I have a lot of trickle-down culture is what I'll call it.

I'll pull a little Hillary Clinton. I want to trump up trickle-down culture. I do want to add it to your lexicon of culture words is as a youngest sibling, I feel like you get trickle down culture from your siblings yes and i have an older brother and he would sometimes just leave like give me movies on dvd or like go rent things be like watch this because he wanted me to be in his eyes cool yes so i watched a lot of like pcu do you remember that movie with like jeremy piven he was like this is the precursor to old school and i was like okay and then i watched like old school or um i'm trying to

remember the like biggest one but thoughts on jeremy piven that's on jeremy piven um you know what a few years ago he had that whole thing if he had to back out of a movie because he had mercury poisoning it was it was speed the plow on broadway speed the plow um and i didn't believe it so since then i've been like you you get mercury poisoning who the hell are you the tiniest window uh in which i loved him was when he was in scary movie three don't you think he's hot i think he's so hot i think he's so hot he's very short and i'm very tall so i can't i can't i don't know i can't even comment well i like them in the movie serendipity there's something about him where i think jeremy piven is like really attractive all right is it because of entourage because i did i watched all seasons of entourage and had those boxes i think i think

it might be because i remember watching and i know it's problematic walk around and scream and i'm like oh god i don't know i'm attracted to that guy okay um matt i'm just gonna point out matt is feeling a certain way because he's commented on just like men and and and placing value on them based on their looks jeremy piven the guy from nip tuck and i think this is the theme and i think we should talk about this matt what's going on yeah what's going on i'm just have a type i guess no i'm kidding um i don't know. I just, I happen to think those two, which you said the words Jeremy Piven,

and like, I don't know. I do, you know what it is, and here's what it is. Yeah. Because at the height. He's figured it out. I did just figure it out. He's figured it out.

What is this? At the height of my hormones raging, the two of them were stars of shows. Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. so now i have an association yeah of course yes yes we've drilled down to the core of culture which is which is it's like what lauren michael says about snl cast yes people's favorite snl caster when they were in high school yeah um that's actually interesting because whenever anyone asks for like my top five

like when who's your top five celebrity crushers like guys oh like the ones on your list that like if you were making that celebrity and that celebrity wanted to bang you yeah right cheat on your partner all from your teen years my number one is always going to be justin timberlake wow okay i didn't know that i didn't know that i love justin and i love chris pine i'm not surprised but chris pine though didn't come into didn't really break out until i know he transcends oh wow i always get chris pine and chris evans confused in that like i know the differences but i have to actively think of both of their faces for me to distinguish

them in my brain that's fair it's insane how many leading men that are that are all just handsome white dudes named chris it's like such a joke yeah it's such a joke to me it's like we need more handsome white men named chris in film um i was thinking about this today in fact because um joel can boosters tweet are you reference that or no no what did he tweet he tweeted um i'm gonna try to get this i'm paraphrasing obviously he goes this was a real puzzle, but, um, Chris Evans is Carrie. Chris Hemsworth is Samantha. Chris Pine is Miranda.

And Chris, uh, Pratt is Charlotte, which I think is, which I think I would need to, I would need to unpack it a little bit more. Sure. But what were you going to reference?

Oh, um, because you texted me and was like, who is Tom Everett Scott? Because my Instagram handle is now Tom Everett Scott. Yes. We're very confused. We're like, who is this Tom Everett Scott?

I knew it was. Just click the picture. The guy from that thing you do. It's the guy from that thing you do. Never seen it. And I changed it to him recently because I saw La La Land. And he comes in at the end. At the end.

As Emma Stone's husband. Spoiler. But also this year. Spoiler. Go see La La Land. He comes in, he was in the MTV series Scream this year as one of the high schoolers' fathers.

And I thought it was so comical to see Tom Everett Scott in an MTV show and then to see him in this Oscar, probably nominated movie. And I was thinking about, he's one of those like, i'm happy that he is one of those white men in hollywood that started as a leading man in that thing you do and has now been relegated to what like most women in the industry are is there like he appears in like a private

practice episode right you know he he didn't go on to have a leading role. He's just like, I do cameos on shows. Right, right. Yeah. That's more common. I'm feeling like something I said before is unclear and I just want to clarify. Oh my God, what? I just, because this is like getting to me. I just want to say, it's important to have a sense of humor about yourself. If you're in the public eye and you don't have a sense of humor about yourself, I have no time.

And that's what that is. It's that thing that like RuPaul says, you knowPaul says. Watching Wizard of Oz, the world is fake. And once you realize the world is a joke, then you can live in it easier. I'm butchering whatever. But that's the heart of it. It is an important thing to remember. You have to have a sense of humor about it all

because it's all fucked up. I agree. And that's why I like Emma Stone. I like Emma Stone too. Can I tell you why I like emma stone i like can i tell you why i like emma stone today yeah today okay because he has a new he has a new reason every single day he has an emma stone word of the day calendar this is why when people come for emma stone i'm like yeah but she's actually cool so basically you know how like there's the movement of like ask

her more on the red carpet yeah about the dresses so ryan seacrest i guess the other day asked emma stone tell me about your dress and emma stone goes well okay it's pink and has stars on it and i thought that was funny and then she didn't go she didn't say any more anything more about it i'm sure she seems like a great person it's just matt and i saw 20th century women yesterday and now i gotta see the more i think about it great movie the more i think about it... It's really good. The more I think about it, the more I'm like, oh, it sucks that Emma's gonna get the Oscar and someone like Annette Bening,

who has never been awarded... Has she never? Never been given an Oscar. But that's not Emma Stone's fault. It's not her fault, but it's also... I don't know. Well, I think that it's the fault

of awards. Yes. You know? Like, there are so many different movies this... There are so many different types of movies this season to, like, compare them next to each other is almost impossible because they're... It's, like...

I thought Moonlight should have won directing at the Golden Globes. Yes. But that doesn't mean I don't think La La Land was directed poorly. No, no, no. They're completely two different movies to me. So, to, like like compare them to each other i i get why we have like the oscar system that we have because it's exciting for people to watch and see who wins and the competition everything yeah but can i tell you what i think would be

like the best way to do it what is to like say okay we're gonna have the oscars every everyone from all the movies are going to be invited. We're going to invite everyone. It's going to be a celebration of film. And no one knows what's going to happen at the Oscars. And then throughout the show, there's like five different points where they give out an award for a special achievement. And that way, there's no competition. There's no best actress. No one has to feel bad because they were worse.

No one even knows that they're nominated. You get invited to the show you show up and then it's like throughout the show there's not even any qualifications for what's going to be given out it's like these were the five achievements that we feel deserved this award so then it's like if you want to give annette banning an award she gets one and emma stone could get one too you know what i mean seems very very socialist. I just feel like, who needs this? Is this like participation trophy millennial conversation? No,

because not everyone gets one. In fact, less people get. You liberal snowflake. You know what? You liberal snowflake. Tommy Lauren is my virgin marriage. How dare you?

Tommy Lauren, who today said, why aren't we praising the white people who helped end slavery? Okay, let's keep going. I don't know. You know what? I think about that every day. I wake up and I'm like, the white people who helped end slavery? Okay, let's keep going. I don't know. You know what? I think about that every day.

I wake up and I'm like, the white people don't get thanks enough. Actually, no. We like talk about fucking what's his face? John Brown all the fucking time. But was he white? I don't know. She's a fucking snowflake. Oh, yeah.

Talk about needing attention. Anyway. I can't with her. She's from my hometown. Oh, she's from your hometown. No, no. She's from technically somewhere else. She lives in Dallas, and that's where they film The Blaze.

And I am famously from Texas. I don't even know. I just feel like it's bullshit, the competition thing, because at the root of it is needing to be the best and make other people feel bad. I don't know. I think we should do away with the whole thing. Wow. I don't necessarily think it's better

when they have 10 nominees for Best Picture because it's silly. Yeah. Not all those are. And also sometimes an animated movie gets put in there and you're like, these movies are so different. To compare them to each other

and to choose which one is better is insane. That being said, I love award shows. I mean, yeah, me too. Every time I print out my ballot, I pick who's going to win. Print it out. So let's talk about that. Fill it out. Talk about what?

Let's talk about what? So you've seen La La Land. Yes, I've seen La La Land. Yeah. And you like it very much. I did like it. Yeah. Come for me.

And would you vote for it for best picture? What else? I don't know what else is going to be nominated. Have you like it very much. I did like it. Yeah. Come for me. And would you, would you vote for it for best picture? Um, what else? I don't know what else is going to have you seen moonlight. Yes. I loved moonlight. Okay. So, and you've seen Manchester by the sea. I have not seen Manchester by the sea.

Man. Is it depressing? Well, that's what I hear. And I don't, I don't like Casey Affleck that much. I mean, no. Who does? I mean, I think many people. That's so insane i think many brooding men

love casey affleck and would herald that as an amazing performance and probably it is i just haven't seen it and i don't care too but i probably will at some point because i like seeing all the movies that are nominated you know i don't know i feel i i agree with i did see it and it's just shocking to me that like he's won everything because to me that must mean like there just might not be a lot of excellence out there besides him because while I thought it was good it wasn't this like you know the way I feel about Oscars is like you should give something an Oscar if like the performer truly elevated the material and did something that almost no one else could do that's when i feel

like something deserves an oscar and i didn't see that with that performance i don't know well that wasn't signature to me the my castable theory i put up on facebook of devil wears proud is the most well okay explain explain this i agree no i well yeah explain it i will now people were bringing other movies to my attention and i am taking that into consideration. But what my criteria was, if any other person did this, would the movie work? Or would the movie be as good? And I do not think Devil Wears Prada would be as good if specifically Meryl Streep and Stanley Tucci were not in it. And Emily Blunt. And Emily Blunt is on my list.

But if you have to narrow it down to two, I think Meryl and Tucci really make that film, those performances. And if there were other people in those roles, it would not work. I feel like with Tucci, Alan, what's his face, could have been great. Alan Cummings. Alan Cummings would have been perfect. I was going to say Alan Tudyk. Yeah, Alan Tudyk. I feel like a lot of people could have done the Tucci role.

I disagree with you there. However, I think Meryl Streep it's very hard to debate that. It comes down to Meryl and Emily Blunt for me in that movie. And that's fair. Emily Blunt is also on my list. And I think that Meryl Streep was nominated for the Oscar for that movie the same year as Helen Mirren won for The Queen.

I'm almost positive I'm right. Anything with Queen Elizabeth is like awards bait. Meryl showed up to the Oscar in like a chunky necklace and like pants and like god bless her and like a fucking like surgical scrubs like she did not give a shit she was just there to have a good time she was an extra on gray's anatomy yeah yeah i just think we need to be thinking just because someone cries a lot or like does this like i guess like dramatic heavy lifting thing you gotta think like okay but

could any trained actor or actress have done this and probably for many of these performances that win an oscar the answer is probably yes but you're not thinking about like the kinds of choices merrill had to make to create that character of miranda pri for herself, despite it being very well drawn in the novel and the screenplay, like that is true comedic excellence. Yeah. Like creating that character. That's true. Amazing film acting.

And she has so many important lines in that film that she delivers under her breath. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a choice, you know, and another actor would like do the actor thing of like i'm looking you in the eyes and i'm delivering this sincerely like harshly but she's just like i'm walking around i'm like busy i'm doing it under my breath blah blah blah my

favorite line that she delivers on her breath in that movie is and if you don't have that harry potter book don't even bother coming back and then she she's like looking down and then there's like a slight cock of the head at her desk. Like imagine getting the script for Devil Wears Prada and you're the actress. How many actresses that go in and audition for that say that's all like that's all. You know what I mean? Like all. No one does. That's all.

Yes. Nobody does it except Meryl. Or which makes the character lived in. Yeah. Not a caricature. 100 percent. Or when she sees the steak and she goes what is this i don't want this

and then she and hathaway throws a plate of steak right so dramatic throws and hathaway's great in that movie too she is really good yes the plate breaks in this i will never forget just steak being thrown into the sink. I would have eaten it. I'm so upset. Also, one of my favorite lines, besides the whole cerulean mom line, my favorite is,

yes, by all means, move at a glacial pace, so you know how that thrills me. I love. Or florals for spring. Groundbreaking. And Emily Blunt, one of her most amazing lines is I'm just one stomach

flew away from my goal weight that I mean that's good that's just a well-written line yeah yeah yeah or I love my job I love my job I love my job or when she

she's when Anne Hathaway needs to go into the next room and it cuts to Emily Blunt and she just goes like she just snapped with her hand like go bitch my favorite is when she like she's at her desk typing and she sees andy the

hannah hathaway character and it's like what have you been some hideous skirt convention and then she laughs can i tell you amazing amazing performances and you know what now they're talking about it yeah maybe one of the best cast movies like at least of the past 20 years thank you i will say also mean girls i think that a performance that should have been nominated for an oscar is rachel mcadam oh of course that like gretchen was incredible too and it's a shame that that girl isn't a huge star now. I know. I think she had the curse of being a child star. Oh, yeah. Party of five.

Party of five. I think that that monologue, the Caesar monologue, is so good. And also... The gold tubes, the white gold tubes. The white gold hoops. Do you do that for your high school auditions? I wish I had. So good.

But also, Rachel McAdams in Mean Girls, like, the character of Regina, like, that defined high school bitches. Yes. You know what I mean? And that's another role that, like, any other actress auditioning for that would have read so, like, too literally or too on the nose. And she just mutters things under her breath. And it's perfect.

And an amazing, I can't remember what years they came out, but your first introduction to Rachel McAdams is The Notebook. And then all of a sudden, you see this bitch in Mean Girls, and you're like, okay. I believe the name years they came out, but your first introduction to Rachel McAdams is The Notebook. And then all of a sudden you see this bitch in Mean Girls, and you're like, okay. I believe The Notebook came out after Mean Girls. Okay. Well, my first introduction. Within several months of each other,

and they were both fitting at the same time. And you're like, okay, this girl is a star. It is a shame to me that Rachel McAdams is not a star because I love her performance in the problematic movie, The Family Stone. I think she's so good in that. And she's so good in Mean Girls.

She's so good in The Notebook. Matt and I have a favorite line from The Family Stone. Let's hear it. Sarah Jessica Parker goes, Look, I don't care if you like me or not.

And Rachel McAdams goes, Oh, of course you do. Of course you do. My first exposure to Rachel McAdams was that Rob Schneider movie The Hot Check. Yeah. That was her first thing

but she was not great in that but she did a perfectly acceptable job and she had to play she committed to it she committed to the Freaky Friday

Rob Schneider thing I feel like we were all captive to Rob Schneider's career and that everyone thought we had to see movies that Rob Schneider made and nobody

wanted to but we all saw Juice Bigelow and we all saw The Hot Check did you say steak? no I said mistake that Rob Schneider made and nobody wanted to. But we all saw Juice Bigelow and we all saw the hot chick. Did you say steak? No, I said mistake. Oh man,

you got me all excited. Oh yeah, when they make that joke about that like overweight woman how she like can't press the buttons on her phone.

It's so funny. It's so funny. That was comedy. Also, Juice Bigelow, male gigolo was Amy Poehler making fun of a person with Tourette's.

Wait, was she Tourette's or was she narcolepsy she would just be like at like the baseball game that was amy puller but there was also a girl with narcolepsy who fell asleep in her soup and then he had to tie her ponytail

to the banister so she didn't drown in her own soup that was comedy then oh my god and we all watched those movies that's the thing as high schoolers you are just a slave to what's in the movie theater on weekends yeah we're all pretty much the same age do you remember when there was like horror movies were like back yes like house of wax with Wax with Chad Michael Murray and Paris Hilton. When Paris Hilton fucked Cousin Skeeter.

The puppet? No, the cousin. What? What are you talking about? Because Cousin Skeeter was a show on Nickelodeon about a puppet. The boy in it. Not the puppet, the boy. Well, the boy is not Cousin Skeeter.

Oh, I didn't know. Cousin Skeeter is the puppet. Pretty funny to think about Paris Hilton fucking fucking a puppet though right probably i would love to see paris hilton guest on the muppet babies yeah who am i gonna fuck here look at that little baby animal oh my god it's low-hanging fruit to make fun of paris hilton not really no she's djing in ibiza right now making 10k off 10 minutes of bullshit is she djing she's a fucking dj voted for trump so no she did she she did absolutely did how do you know that tweet or you just assume no i think she um like there was some report i mean it might have been fake news but i i'm i

believe it. Fuck. If some fucking asshole in like middle America believes anything, then I'll believe anything. Are you a horror movie person, Bo? No, I don't care for him. And you are not a horror movie because they scared you. Oh my God. Matt is so scared.

Were you? You love horror movies? I like, I'll tell you this about myself. I loved going to a horror movie with a group of friends. Maybe there's some guys there and acting real scared when i was not that was me in high school high school yeah i even remember in college one time being so drunk and on the bus back there was we went to dirty six and you had to take the e-bus is what it was called um back to campus and being on the bus and the lights kept going out on the bus and i was making out with this guy i was sitting on his lap and every time the lights went out, I would be like, I'm scared

of the dark. And he was like, are you serious? And I was like, are you serious? And I was like, yeah, it's this weird thing about me. I'm scared of the dark. It's like a thing with only me. I get really scared when it's dark. I'm really scared of the dark.

And I need someone to put their hands on my shoulder. That's what i did i all up and down his body do you guys did you guys go see saw in the movie theater no no i haven't seen the saw movies i will say okay this first saw is really good and this is like what got my friends on to horror movies and inside i was like fuck this has to be every weekend now because once that movie came out all of a sudden horror movie after horror movie after horror movie the grudge came out the grudge oh you know what I fucking hated was the remake of

the hills have eyes where they fucking like rape a pregnant woman Emily DeRavin from Lost Claire from Lost gets raped in a trailer by a mutant and then like the father gets impaled on a tree and burned a lot like it's just like porn it's just the father gets impaled on a tree and burned a lot like it's just like porn it's just tortured porn but like under it's so bad like i yeah i fucking hate horror movies you

know what it's not that i don't care for him it's that i really dislike them but not in the same way that matt dislikes them is that like it's it's like i just don't like um you know they offend you they offend me it's like why am i watching this i hate violence i don't i don't like it i don't respond to it yeah i mean that's fair I don't like it. I don't respond to it. Yeah. I mean, that's fair. I don't like horror movies now. They're just not interesting to me. If you can make like a really interesting horror movie, I'll probably be into it. But I'm not like going to go and see a horror movie.

Right. Oh, my God. My worst date ever was. Let's hear. Was a few years ago. It has something to do with culture. It has something to do with horror movies, which are unfortunately part of culture. Okay.

I just want to keep you on. I just want to keep you guys on track. Okay, please. Okay. So anyway, we were my sirens earlier. First date with this guy was the week of hurricane Sandy.

And we're walking down Eastern parkway, uh, down like a ravaged wasteland of Brooklyn. And it was kind of romantic. Oh, um, so he told me, told god how many pictures did you guys take next to like a lamp pole that was a little a trees trees that were just like completely yeah just destroyed don't worry we're okay he told me his name was like fucking Patrick or

something and I was like great and then the. Was it something different than that? Okay. So then, so then we, so then it was a great first date. We just took a walk. We kissed. That was it. And then like about a month later, we go on our second date. And then he wants to take me to see this movie, The Collective or The Collection or something. It's the same people who made the, produced the Saw movies. It's some bullshit, like paper thin, like it has no depth to it at all it's a bullshit horror movie

and within 20 minutes i was like i don't want to watch this and we left the theater and he was he was very nice and saying oh yeah let's not watch this but it was his idea to go take me there and then he just like in a tense moment he was like oh yeah by the way my name is lamar and i was like okay well we're done what wait wait why did he explain why he lied because he was because he was afraid of like the internet and he was afraid of like people finding out who like i don't know so once you were like i don't like this movie he was like i think this is over so i need to be you don't like this horror movie That's thick. He was like, I think this is over, so I need to be – you don't like this horror movie, so I'm going to be real with you. My name is Lamar, and we're done.

That might have been it. I just truly to this day don't understand what was going through his head to A, like think that – Maybe he thought like – Yeah, and B, lie. Like on the first date, first pass. So anyway. Maybe he thought you were so so real like so real that you

couldn't even get through this fake ass movie that he was like i can't be i can't be fake with this person who's so genuine yes that's probably what he thought that's definitely what he thought yep i've met i i'm trying to think of a movie i've walked out of oh bone and i walked out of guardians of the galaxy yes calm for us during it i fell asleep during it i went back to watch it again, not in a theater. And I was like, it's fun. Well, the thing about Guardians of the Galaxy is it's not good. And if you think it's good, you're wrong.

Come for us. Come for us. Can I say something about a Monster Calls, this new Felicity Jones movie, who did not have a great run of it at Saturday Night Live this past weekend. But that Monster Calls movie, that's Groot. That big tree man that Liam Neeson is voicing. Oh my gosh. It just looks exactly like Groot.

And I'm like, how are you going to make this movie and we're not going to compare it to Groot? You know, big tree things are having a moment right now. Groot. Mm-hmm. The guy from Stranger Things. The guy from Stranger Things. I didn't finish Stranger Things.

Redwoods. Come from me. I didn't really like Stranger Things. I didn't finish Stranger Things. Redwoods. Come from me. I didn't really like Stranger Things. Okay, interesting. Come from me. Didn't finish the series. I know you didn't watch because you thought it was too scary. I liked it.

I enjoyed it. Tell me. Explain. I don't know. Was it Wynonna? No, I loved Wynonna. Yeah. Like you say Wynonna like she's Wynonna Judd when she's Wynonna, right?

Wynonna, Wynonna. Do you think she'd correct me? That's what matters to me. Like you say Winona like she's Winona Judd when she's Winona, right? Winona, Winona. Do you think she'd correct me? That's what matters to me. Would Winona correct me? With a big hobo bag and a cardigan holding a coffee? Yeah, she'd be like, it's Winona actually. All right, ready? Who's the better Winona?

Winona Judd or Winona Ryder? Oh my God, no contest. Ryder. Wow. Interesting. I bet all the Trump voters would disagree. Winona Judder. Oh my God, no contest. Ryder. Wow. Interesting. I bet all the Trump voters would disagree. Winona Judd. Yeah.

Well, who's the better Judd? Winona Judd or Ashley Judd? Because I have my answer locked and loaded. I would say, based on what you've said so far, because of the popularity of all those Ashley Judd movies that were like thrillers around the time when you were a teen, probably Ashley Judd. I didn't ask for you to guess, and you are correct. It is Ashley Judd movies that were like thrillers around the time when you were a teen. Probably Ashley Judd. I didn't ask for you to guess and you are correct. It is Ashley Judd. Would have been a senator

Ashley Judd had she won her Senate race. No, she went for Senate. She went for Senate in I think Virginia I want to say. Wait, I did not know that. I didn't know that either. And I was like really rooting for her. Was it close? Probably not. But it was like, it was right after Clay Aiken ran for Senate in North Carolina and. Do you think clay aiken running for senate is the reason trump is

president i mean oh you thought he was like well he's doing it so why not i feel like al franken is the reason or gary coleman or gary or arnott wortsen eiger what what what office did gary coleman serve when everyone was running for governor of california he didn't he was running Or Arnold Schwarzenegger. What office did Gary Coleman serve? When everyone was running for governor of California. He didn't serve. He was running. I'm sure Arnold Schwarzenegger has a lot to do with Trump. Probably.

Probably. How do you guys feel about Alaska posing for... She was on Apprentice. Alaska Thunderfuck. I just saw her tweet something of like, I post on this thing for posing on a motorcycle ad for apprentice nbc hashtag team carson because carson cressley's oh my god wow i don't know i really don't know what to think about the whole apprentice thing right now because it's weird donald trump was tweeting about well the fucking ratings tanked with ar Schwarzenegger.

That sucks. And then Katie Couric mentioned, which I thought was a good point, isn't he the executive producer of that show still? And why is he shit-talking his own show? So that little Twitter fight with Arnold, I feel like, because Arnold just tweeted back. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Arnold tweeted back, like, well, I... Fake news.

He was like, I hope you serve our country well. You know what? That's 100% what it is you serve our country well you know what that's 100% what it is trump was like you know what we're gonna have a little twitter feud because the people fucking love it and i was watching biden on the view the other day and um one of them asked him he had the whole episode they had biden on and they asked him like why do you think because his point was like you know no one ever heard hillary's plans it was all she was always on the defensive it was this whatever and they were like what went wrong why didn't we ever get to hear hillary why didn't we ever hear about her plans for like everyone

getting free college etc etc and he was like look you got the media and they have two options they're gonna report on hillary's plans for everyone to get free college or they're gonna report on donald trump says grab him by the pussy you can only really put all your resources on one which one are you gonna pick you pick the fucking donald trump grab him by the pussy thing and so you couldn't ever hear the positive aspects of what hillary had because it was so inundated with this Trump nonsense, whatever it was. And so really, she never actually stood a chance because this is the first election we've ever had, which was in the age of social media where you can just fucking totally flood everyone's feeds with this stuff.

And all you're ever talking about is Trump. And when you're the star of the election, I'm not surprised he did win at the end because who was the big star of this election? Donald Trump. He was all over the news and was never not. For the past two years, he's never not been in the news. So I guess it kind of makes sense that you couldn't get a word in edgewise.

And this just goes to show you that um matt rogers still gets a lot of his really truly deep truly deep political analyses from the view yeah which is great okay guys loves the view guys we we're running out of time let's move on to i don't think so oh my god oh my gosh wow that's insane i'm so sad i i don't know if my episode is worth the hype i'm just gonna say no no no it's worth it's 100 worth the hype what what is going on i don't know i feel like we haven't come up with any catchphrases in the show you know we haven't come up with plenty we haven't taken down here we go here we go so now this podcast is becoming very self-aware

and i i honestly i i would i would throw bone to the wolves right now and i'd say how dare you how dare i what how dare you start this show talking about catchphrase stocking up on all of our catchphrases you self-indulgent piece of shit look this is what i posted last night and you i don't know maybe save this for an i don't think so honey no i don't know i have my i don't think so, honey. No. I don't know. I have my I don't think so, honey. And for the first time ever, I prepared it. Oh, my God. Okay. I'll go after I don't think so.

I don't know what to do for I don't think so. Okay. Here we go. Okay. But Chrissy. But Chrissy. I'm about to get roasted here live. Chrissy, do you truly think that this is not worth the hype?

I think it's been so worth the hype. I don't know. I mean, I was telling Matt that I feel like the only hype was matt and henry and you guys no i don't know well listen the thing is henry's not my boyfriend christy you haven't met a celebrity in the past week have i have i met a celebrity you haven't met a celebrity in the past week that you can talk about oh no i mean we'll have like michelle obama well and just to hear henry speak it's just a joy you know he's a lovely a lovely, a lovely boy. Um, well I did. Wait,

hold on. I do want to talk about the Oscars one more again. Yeah. One more again. Yeah. So you're a big fan of it. Yeah. And what,

and, and what do you think is the, is the best movie of the year? Go ahead. Talk about it. Go ahead. Talk about it. As bone eats his goddamn snack here.

Sorry. He, she can, I'm listening. Okay. Chrissy. I love so many different movies for so many different reasons. But what's the best?

Because one of them has to be the best. What's the movie that made me feel the most in the two movies that made me feel the most while watching them, like have actual emotional reactions to? I'll say three. Were Moonlight. I felt anxious during the whole film, which I thought was very good. La La Land, I was just like mesmerized the whole time. Sometimes I was a little bored.

I will say that. There we had some slow moments. And then Pop Star, I laughed my goddamn ass off. We loved it. So if it's about emotional reactions that I had in the theater, I would say those were my top three. I also loved The Lobster and The Green Room made me very scared oh the green room the green room made me very scared it was that's a I don't I've never heard of this movie green room um it had Anton Yelkin I think

it's his name who passed away like right right right a month after the film like got released that's really sad that was really Really, such a freak accident. Oh, yeah. That was not good. I think he's a very good actor. It also had that actress who I think has the most ridiculous name, and I don't know why we don't make fun of her more for it,

Imogen Poots. Imogen Poots. Absolutely. Come on. Imogen Poots, and she's really giving a vibe of an Imogen Poots. It was like, if we were to write a character

that's this girl as an actress, we would name her Imogen Poots. Imogen Poots. Wow. It's a character that's this girl as an actress, we would name her Imogen Poots. It's a character name. It's not a real person's name. Neither is Imogen Heap. Can we quote our favorite line from Popstar? Yes. That's an amazing name.

No, wait. Deborah. Deborah. Is that short for something? I think Deborah. It's not Deborah. It's Deborah. Oh, is that short for something i think deborah it's not deborah it's deborah oh is that short for something i think deborah me matt and sudi lost in the theater loved it loved that movie also the whole the whole number of the i'm gonna fuck you like we fucked bengal that was good the best part of it to me was the girl dancing the whole time just the way she was the dancers were amazing it was amazing i thought that movie was fucking very funny very funny movie and like honestly to me better screenplay than la la land

well if you want i'll talk all the doodah about that's a less culture about pop star and i need to go back and watch again because i've only seen it once in the theater is that i think it's a perfect example of a comedy movie not getting bogged down in plot which i think is a problem with modern comedy movies is that they feel like they're a slave to this three-act structure of like setting something up the thing goes dead goes down and they have to fix at the end which pop star does do but most of the fun parts of that movie is it like going off in these tangents that feel like sketches within a movie, but you're following the same characters. 100%. That's like a very, now that the comedies that have been popular over the past 10, 15 years are like the Apatow comedies.

I feel like, you know, it's a common theme in those movies that Act 3 sucks. Yeah. Or that they get really slow. Right, right. Or even that the act two sucks the act the act two suck because it's just the longer stretch of the movie where it's like it's the middle and you know there's not that much i feel myself sometimes wanting to be like oh i want to watch that movie and then realize i only want to watch the first half of it and i will turn a movie

off and afterwards like the things i remember loving about this movie are already done so i'm not going to finish it i love it when those movies get even more fucking crazy in the third act. Like, you know, movies really good. Pineapple Express. I've only seen it once. I like it. The movie gets so fucking insane in the third act. And like, to me, that's like.

That's where they have like the warehouse fight. Yes. Right. Okay. And like, it just keeps getting more insane. And I feel like that's how you heighten. Like, I mean mean in for example like knocked up which i think is so good it's so good like 80 of the way and then it just it fucking

just really slows down there i saw knocked up with friends from church and the kid sitting next to me was um he had been homeschooled for most of his life, but had integrated into our high school. So still kind of a homeschool kid. He was a part of our church. He sat next to me and the whole time he like shook his head and put his head in his hands like in a disapproving way. And I was like very much laughing, you know, I was doing that thing called laughing and he was judging at the entire time.

You? Judging you? Judging, yeah. Everything? Everything. Just everything. What would 12, 13-year-old Chrissy Shackelford think of the Las Culturistas? She, I think she would be like, finally there's like a voice to me.

You guys are holding each other. No, Matt's holding me. I hold him. 12-year-old, 13-year-old, loved culture, wanted more. I didn't have that many pop culture obsessed friends. She loved the gays? Yes. Yes.

And here's the deal is that. Ryan Murphy. Sorry. Like Ryan Murphy was super formative for me. Yeah. That show popular. And this is a longer conversation for a longer podcast, but I went to a very Baptist school where the head pastor has a very anti-gay policy and put up a terrible sign on the church for the sermon the year after I graduated from high school called Why Gay Is Not Okay. Oh, my God.

He's the Christian correspondent on Fox News now, and he's a huge Trump supporter. He's he's terrible and I'm sorry if anyone from my high school is listening to this but I think he is terrible and I think he's a horrible person and from then on I was like I think I've cut ties with my high school. You know what I hope that they are listening. I hope everyone from your

high school is a Las Culturistas fan. There are people from my high school now who are like cool and whatnot and have evolved from we were certainly brainwashed in high school in my opinion i used to think the devil was inside me but again this is a longer conversation for a different podcast this is the thing the devil was inside me to bring it back to rupaul to bring it back to rupaul it's like i kind of if i were to see that today and see that sign that says why gay is not okay like i I would just laugh because it's just now it's not even a fence. Yeah.

Now, now, because, because you, you, because you broke away from the matrix and you were like, Oh, this is just very comical.

But of course it's hurting someone, but still anyway, well, the world is terrifying. Um, certain parts of it. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean all of it, but like certain parts of it where people haven't evolved. Yeah. And with that, that's a perfect segue into at least my I don't think so honey. Okay.

So you want to go first? You go first. Yes. I will go first. Now I don't think so honey for those of you listening at home is your favorite segment. I mean it is the touchstone

of Las Culturistas. We put one minute on the clock. We rail against something in culture that's grinding our gears. It's getting us. We get into all the ticks and tacks all the doodads for one minute. It's our skin raw. We got to itch's getting us. We get into all the ticks and tacks, all the doodads for one minute.

We gotta itch our skin raw. We gotta, you know, shed the bad skin like a snake does and crawl out of our issues with the cultural. All right. All right, here we go. I just talked and said nothing. Okay, Matt Rogers, I don't think so, honey.

Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. South Brooklyn. You're the most overrated fucking part of New York. Bitch, I don't think so. If I want to go to you, it takes me an hour

and a goddamn half. The subways inside of you are fucking shit. If I ever see the R train again, I'll spit on it as it comes in. I don't care who's on it. I don't care if the conductor

will come for me. Go ahead, come for me. You live in South Brooklyn. I don't think so, honey. Bay Ridge, I don't care who's on it. I don't care if the conductor will come for me. Go ahead, come for me. You live in South Brooklyn. I don't think so, honey. Bay Ridge? I don't fucking think so, honey. If I want to go to a theme park, I'm not going to Coney Island. I will go to Sixth Grade Adventure at the Port Authority at Midtown, which at least lives up to its name.

At least you're getting there, and you know it's going to be a little bit of a challenge, and you're fine with it because at least there's good things about it. There's nothing good about South Brooklyn. If I want to go to fucking South Brooklyn and drink a mim a mimosa it's 48 dollars bitch i don't think so honey i don't think about i don't care about you park slope moms and dads looking all hot with your kids you don't care about them they're accessories to you it's all about the image with you it's all about the aesthetics i've been to north brooklyn i loved it the subway access amazing i feel sorry for you guys the l is going to shut down i live live on the Upper East Side now. Span trial, I more like it. And I'm gagging.

I don't think so, honey. South Brooklyn. Okay. Wow. Your kids are accessories. It's very upsetting. Wow. Very upsetting.

What if all of your listeners are from Bay Ridge? What if every single- Move out. Listen, you have the ability to get out, okay? I'm sorry, but... You're talking about it like it's fucking Scientology. It is. It's a cult.

South Brooklyn is a cult. I can't believe we didn't talk about Scientology. That's what I'm saying. What about the heavy Chinese immigrant population in Bay Ridge, huh? What do you have to say to them? Yeah, what do you have to say to them? I have to say to them that it sucks that they live in such a shitty place. I have to say to them it sucks that they're commuting on the R.

Yes, okay. It's the land the subways forgot. it's the land the subways forgot it's the land the subways forgot i work in red hook brooklyn there is literally one i'm done i'm done making excuses for it it's hard to get around in north brooklyn and you're saying the train access is bad in south no honey i don't know if you ever heard of this it's called the g and it's also called the j and it's also called the z and yeah wow and it's also called the l which is nailing it no matt rogers is the only person in new york who thinks the l is nil i lived off the l when i was staying with sudi who housed me when i had no home she housed me and henry and we lived off the l and let me tell you something. I got my life for daily.

Okay. Okay. Three weeks. You're not living there long term. I live off the six now and it's a joy every day for me as a joy. No, that's very nice. No,

because it's not a joy because you know what? The six and the four and the five are narrow trains. They're not wide. You know, it's a wide train. The R, the Q, the W,

the N. Is this your, I don't think so. If you have so much to say, this is, this is Bow. Is this your I don't think so? Bowen, why don't you, if you have so much to say. This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. This is going to end very bad. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

Matt fucking Rogers. I don't think so, honey, bitch. I am doing so much work day in, day out trying to promote this goddamn podcast. I wrote a post at 2 a.m. last night saying, hey, if you like Lost Cultures podcast, leave us a rating or a review on iTunes. It would really just be

a signal boost for us. And honey, I have never seen you do this. Have I seen you ever make one piece of promotion? Shut up. Make a poster? Make a quote poster?

I have. Design the goddamn logo for this podcast? No, bitch. No, you haven't, bitch. I am. I pour my heart. I am pouring my,

you do not take up my space in my I don't think so space in my eye. I don't think so, honey, bitch. I don't think so, honey, Matt Rodgers, for nodding his head at me with contempt in his eyes as I tell him what is what with this. I give comedic value. I come up with... What? I give comedic value. What are you talking about? I am the one who always steers the conversation back to where it should go.

Joel Kim Booster has said Matt Rodgers is the bull in the China shop, but I am the shop owner trying to assemble everything back together. Bitch. I didn't know he said that. Bitch, I am. I am. Joel Kim Booster has said Matt Rogers is the bull in the China and the treasure, but I am the shop owner trying to assemble everything back together. Bitch. I didn't know he said that. Bitch. I am. I am the North star.

And that's one minute. That's one minute. I think that you are a lost young child. I think that you are a lost young child and never forget that you respect your elders. And I'm older than you. Can I please do my, I don't think so.

Yes, absolutely. But this is, this is not resolved but we will i guess we'll have to we'll have to just resolve this on the next episode wow there's that conflict the christy shackleford episode of las colteristas ended in conflict thank you that's the okay all right here we go christy shackleford las colteristas time starts now i don't think so honey matt fucking rockers you do not you do not interrupt a fucking i don't think so honey you got one minute uninterrupted to talk you let bowen speak i am whatever the kid's name is he is britney spears let bowen speak leave and that's why that's why i run shit around here chris crocker i'm messing up the levels i am sorry alex but you do not talk during somebody else's I Don't Think So Honey. I am not even a host of this podcast. I am a devoted listener.

Did I get to talk when I Don't Think So Honey? Bowen did I Don't Think So Honey? Austin? No, because it wasn't in the room, and I wouldn't have because it's his I Don't Think So Honey. And I cannot believe you would shit on your own. I Don't Think So Honey would shit on your podcast. Pull down your pants. You're taking a shit on your own i don't think so and you would shit on your podcast pull down your pants you're taking a shit on your podcast you are the reason that people you know like like lose their dreams because they do not keep the sight of what was the goal

you are changing the goal you are actively changing it you are you are the crack in the pipe that is flooding the house that's gotta be over a minute that's a minute wow so chrissy shackleford has just said you are the reason dreams die to me you are the reason people don't get their dreams. She looked at me and said that. It's because of you. You are the crack in the pipe. I have to tell you something. You're flooding the house. I've never. You're flooding the house that God built.

I've never felt more joy than when you didn't know Chris Crocker's name just now. I know. And I felt bad. And I could say it. I know. And I could look you in the eyes as you came for me and I could say Chris Crocker. Chrissy. Chrissy. Careful what you wish for because look, you were worried.

Chrissy Crocker. Chrissy was worried about this episode not being, not living up to the hype. Honey, this is. Incendiary. Incendiary podcast. This is a historic episode. True conflict coming out. I will have a discussion with you. We will discuss.

When I look at you, Bowen Yang. We will discuss, bitch. Chrissy and i will bounce back from this because we have to work together on a bus called the ride and we have to turn it on yeah we have to turn it on for all of those tourists and what about you what do you not care when we talk about selena gomez and you and i we have a we have a personal conflict now we have a conflict and we will resolve or not let's see let's see bitch you should you should get a therapist in for the next episode yes is this the this the end of Last Culture East, thus?

Tune in next time to find out. Tune in next time to find out. Our thanks to Chrissy Shackelford. What a wonderful... What are the dates of the show? I've got a show this Thursday. Don't know if the episode's going to be out by then. That is okay.

February 6th, though, is my final show of Diane Shangri-La. And I want to say, I have seen Diane Shangri-La Presents Not Dry Yet two times, and it's so good. And you should see it because it's truly great character work. It's smart. It's really good writing. It's a great performance. You should see it. I second that.

I saw it just this past Friday. Loved it. I think the ending, I'm not going to spoil it for anybody, but the ending is truly fantastic. It's so funny. It's so funny. It's so funny. And also, just one more thing. Bone and I's last show of Popper Let's Amazing Earth is also this Friday. Come, because it's going to be the last time you can see it, you guys. I'm going to be there.

Oh, good. And it's really good, and we're so proud of it. And it's been such a nice, good, long, happy run at UCB. And also, please come out to Henry Kapurski's A Little Night Music on... January 20th? On the 20th as well at 11.30 p.m. at UCB East. That will be so fun. Chrissy Shackefer, thank you so much for being a guest.

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