Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Constant Comment” (w/ Nathan Lee Graham)

Episode Date: January 31, 2018

Simply, one of the best episodes ever - written AND performed by artist, actor, singer, writer, director, Grammy-award winning Las Culturistas icon Nathan Lee Graham. Basically, all you need to know i...s that Nathan comes into the studio with a piece of paper that has SEVEN “I Don’t Think So, Honey's!” pre-prepared - that’s the level of craftsmanship we’re speaking about here. For real: Nathan is one of the kindest people to roll into this studio and one of the most gracious interviewees. Sorry folks, a pro is a pro and we can ALL learn something from Nathan Lee Graham. Hear about Nathan’s amazing career, his new show “LA to Vegas”, PLENTY of Zoolander gossip, and much, much more (Eartha Kitt, Toni Collette, the Grammys….you know…Las Culturistas!)This episode is an…”iconic drop”.  “I don’t have to star in anything, but I do have to steal it” - Nathan Lee Graham. SUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:25 Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And I'm excited for a certain kind of reason. Okay. What is this? Well, two things. Okay. Number one is today is my mother's birthday. Happy birthday, Katrina. Happy birthday, Katrina Rogers.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I very nearly just said her age but it's it's unkind to do that oh sure i mean i think the stigma is be slowly slowly being actually i have to talk to her about that okay i don't know if she would feel you know like i would like if i said her age that would offend her i don't know maybe she's one of you know she can't speak for i can't speak for her i would never even try okay Okay. What's the second reason? Well, that we're going to be in Orlando in just five days. In just five days. We are going on vacation.
Starting point is 00:03:10 We're going on vacation. It'll be very fun. Watch, look out for, be on the lookout for a new installment of our horror anthology series. Yes, a daily horror anthology series that we produce on the spot called Four Nights in Orlando. I literally edit the videos while I'm in line for Space Mountain and, you know, post them while I'm on Space Mountain. And while I appreciate you doing that because it is the majority of the work,
Starting point is 00:03:32 I also feel salty when you have your face in your phone, bitch. I want to be connected to you. I'm in post, honey. I understand that you're in post, bitch, but I need to be connecting with you about the decor because you know that's the number one gag about Disney World is the decor and the amount of effort that they put into
Starting point is 00:03:48 the queue. I can appreciate the queue experience just fine well we'll see I'll report back next week and I'll just really quickly thanks to everyone for all the nice things you guys have been saying about our Vulture recaps for Drag Race and for Top Mono we'll keep them coming for the next
Starting point is 00:04:04 you know 50,000 weeks hopefully next, you know, 50,000 weeks. Hopefully the seasons will continue for 50,000 weeks. So there you go. And continue on. Now, I'm noticing our guest doing something right now, which is gagging me very hard. Our guest came prepared. Truly prepared and with the ensemble to gag as well.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Oh, the ensemble is a gag arena. A gag arena, gag arena. Is your scene first and herd second. Yes! Because our guest understands that podcasts are a visual medium. We say it all the time. Yes. Okay, so let's please introduce our guest.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Who is our guest? I'd like you to tell them because it's sort of an icon to me. And when I found out that we were going to have our guest on the show, I did have a moment. Our guest, I had a moment because I leapt out of my seat as soon as HPJ sent us the ask. And, you know, there's just a litany of credits to go
Starting point is 00:04:54 through. Oh, so many. We'll just cherry pick a few. I love cherry picking. What does cherry picking mean to you? Well, first of all, we need to get back to your A segment, your A block. Yeah, the A block. Discuss the A block.
Starting point is 00:05:07 You've done a couple of things that I love. You've said the word bitch, which is my go-to word. I say it to myself every morning. Absolutely. All right, bitch, let's get up. Let's go, let's go, let's go. And then you get us off of it. Katrina, is your mother Katrina?
Starting point is 00:05:17 My mother's name is Katrina. Okay, here's the thing about your age. You can Google it. There you go. So that's out. And then also Space Mountain, I was around when Space Mountain was built. In the 70s? Yes, because I'm that
Starting point is 00:05:30 old bitch. And wait, what was the how did it feel to know? But I don't look it. You don't look it. No, not at all. Now let me tell you something. I want to revisit this. First let's introduce our guest because I want everyone to understand and know what this is coming from. We're going to go back. We're going to rewind. We're going to rewind to the beginning of to rewind. Like we did in Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:05:45 To the beginning of the B block here. You can currently see our guest star in the fantastic new show by Will Ferrell, Adam McKay, Steve Levitan. These legends. Yes, my family's on. Tuesday nights at 9. It's called LA to Vegas. LA to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Fantastic new show. Packed with jokes. Packed with jokes. And that's a requirement. Absolutely. On Fox or Hulu or Fox Now. Yes. There you go. I actually watched the episodes on Hulu. Thanked with jokes. Packed with jokes. And that's a requirement. Absolutely. On Fox or Hulu or Fox Now. There you go. I actually watched the episodes on Hulu. Thank you very much. Quick plug for
Starting point is 00:06:10 Hulu where I should pronounce it in its correct way. Hulu. Hulu. The way that the one Ann Dowd has pronounced it. Ann Dowd would pronounce it Hulu. Yes, of course she of the acting studio, acting teacher at Cap 21, so we have to take her word for it. And Julie Andrews with the liquid U.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Julie Andrews. The liquid U, that's what that is. The liquid U, perfect. So LA to Vegas, please watch it. So, so funny. We implore you. Thank you, guys. We implore you on it.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And so, so funny, and this is just truly, and we'll talk about this, this is a formative role for me. I'm shook. Todd in Zoolander and Zoolander 2. Of course, the amazing phrase My mistake, Jacobean.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Your mistake indeed! But just the lip quivering. Oh, perfect. You can't beat that. I did come up with the pronunciation of Jacobean, by the way. That's the tea. That's the tea and that's And we're having tea. And we certainly are.
Starting point is 00:07:03 We're drinking tea. We're actualizing this What kind of tea are you having by the way? Green Green pomegranate Constant comment Ooh Constant comment That's the title of this episode honey
Starting point is 00:07:15 That is already We know Come on This is on fire And you know what Just starve the screen You've seen him in the comeback oh my god
Starting point is 00:07:26 another legendary another legendary moment scrubs honey okay scrubs okay scrubs come through come through scrubs it's actually rule number 64
Starting point is 00:07:36 of culture come through scrubs and Sweet Home Alabama oh my god with Ms. Reese with Ms. Reese and
Starting point is 00:07:44 and star of the stage in the original Broadway cast of Priscilla Queen of the Desert well yes a sweet home Alabama. Oh my God, with Ms. Reese. With Ms. Reese. And, and, star of the stage in the original Broadway cast of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert. Well, yes. He knows the queen? He knows the queen.
Starting point is 00:07:51 I do. All of them. All of them. Each and every one. Each and every one. And there's just so much more. There's literally so much more to love. And one of the few Americans
Starting point is 00:07:58 to do Absolutely Fabulous. And Ab Fab! What? Are they like Harry Potter where they require a British cast? well it's a British institution you have to achieve a certain level
Starting point is 00:08:08 of high society and also I just want to say something yes I hope to get to the point one day where I can step forward
Starting point is 00:08:15 and say end this credit because I love that you know there's credits that are important to you well you know what
Starting point is 00:08:22 I knew I had arrived when my agent said to me Nathan Nathan, there's a breakdown. And it says we want a Nathan Lee Graham type. Stop the presses. Stop the presses. The presses are stopped in their tracks. Stop the presses. I have a follow up to that.
Starting point is 00:08:37 But just please welcome our guest, Nathan Lee Graham. It's not even a Nathan Lee Graham type. We have the real thing in the studio at this moment. Yes, honey. The real one. Yes. Okay, the follow-up to that is- And Miss Dumbo.
Starting point is 00:08:48 And Miss Dumbo. We are recording in Dumbo. And Miss Dumbo du jour. And Miss Dumbo du jour. I need to ask, what was the breakdown for? What was this role? I didn't even hear anything after that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, you just blocked out. I just blocked out. Did you inquire about booking it yourself? No. Because there is a Nathan Lee Graham type. I want someone out there to, you know, I. I just blocked out. Did you inquire about booking it yourself? No. Because there is a Nathan Leigh Graham type. I want someone out there to, you know, I want to pay it forward. I also want to judge that performance. There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Absolutely. And how close did they get to the real thing? Right. Oh, my God. It can't just be all, you know, eyebrows and cheeks. No, no, no. No, it's more than that. Though there's the cheekbones for days.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Come on. Well, thank you. And jawline. No work done yet. But I'm not above it. No, none of us is. I'm not above it. Did you watch the Grammys?
Starting point is 00:09:31 You know who I'm talking about. I do. Unfortunate. I don't think Gaga got work done. Are you crazy? I think it was just the makeup, honestly. I think it was just the makeup. You are a damn fool.
Starting point is 00:09:44 She's pulled back. She had an overdrawn lip. No. Now, you can pull back without actually having any work done. Like with Ru. Ru does that. RuPaul does it and looks 30 years younger, of course. Right, so this is what Marlena Dietrich did for years.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Marlena did it? Yes, absolutely. She looks different is all I'm saying. All right, all right, okay. But none of us is above work. No, no. I'm just thinking she's just a little young to get that amount of work. right, okay. But none of us is above work. No, no. I'm just thinking, she's just a little young to get that amount of work.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Look, please. You have a little bit done over the years, so you look like yourself always. Absolutely. There you go. And that's how you get the cast of Real Housewives of Insert City here. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Also, if you look like you've had work done, it didn't work. That didn't work. Honestly, the- That's a rule of culture. That's a rule of culture. Number four. Number four. If you look like you've had work done, it didn't work. That didn't work. Honestly, that's a rule of culture. That's a rule of culture number four. If you look like you've had work done, it didn't work. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Now, here's a question I have right off the bat. Yes, please. Did your character in Zoolander and Mugatu have a romantic slash sexual relationship? I need to know. Listen, if we do three and four, I can't tell you. Okay, fine. But I will say, just in terms of canon,
Starting point is 00:10:50 Mugatu and Alexania Etaz, Kristen Wiig's character, in New Englander 2, were romantically linked. I don't know if that was... Is that true? I don't know if that's canon. I know that Todd enjoyed watching them.
Starting point is 00:11:03 That's perfect. Okay. Was that your direction on set? That was your action? The backstory? That's what I decided to do. Absolutely. You made a choice.
Starting point is 00:11:13 I did, and I started tonguing the dog. Now, the original dog, her name was Kiva. She passed. She did. Well, she was old then. But they thought we had drugged her up or something. I said, no, this bitch is just old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I wasn't calling her out of her name because she was old then but you know they thought we had drugged her up or something i said no this bitch is just old yeah yeah yeah yeah and i wasn't calling her out of her name because she was a real actual bitch yeah after 100 the bitch was old yeah it was old but even
Starting point is 00:11:32 if we were calling that dog a bitch i'm sure it will be a positive oh absolutely for me 100 yeah it's such a positive thing yeah she booked that role she showed up to set even though she was old she she came for you every time. Betty whited her ass all the way to that set. And I don't know why people gag when people come for you every time. No! Hello! Because they're still coming for you. Right. They certainly are. Now, here's
Starting point is 00:11:55 what I was gagged for when we were doing the A-block, as our guest called it. The A-block. An accurate term. I think that what probably happened was you were briefed about, we do a segment called I Don't Think So, Honey. Right. And you came with a list-
Starting point is 00:12:12 I did, indeed. Of grievances. And you added something. You came with seven topics. This is too good. This is historic. Because let me tell you something. These two rarely come with one.
Starting point is 00:12:23 And then we remember we have to do our own segment and have to make one up. But I do have two options tonight. I'm happy to say. I came with one prepared, which is usually one more than I have. Okay. So I noticed that you wrote. That's beautiful. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Yes. I noticed that you wrote something down during our discussion. And I would like to know what that is. Well, I just wrote something down to refer to something later. Okay, I understand. All right, so he has something to say. You know, like Dan Rather does on Rachel Maddow. Dan is always on Rachel.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Well, you know he's an icon. He's an icon and Rachel respects him. You know, you have to. And Dan Rather, he kind of says sassy things about Trump. Yes, he does. Of course he does. He's very sassy. Yeah. Nathan, do you have any opinions he does. He's very sassy.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Nathan, do you have any opinions on how often Rachel brings on presidential historian Michael Beschloss? You know what? You can look at his hair and tell how many times he's been on because it's changed. Michael's. Yes, Michael's has changed over a period of time. He was like, well, listen, if I want to be on this bitch's show all the time, I need to get my pussy up. Level your pussy up. Level your pussy up.
Starting point is 00:13:29 As I would say. And zhuzh it. And zhuzh it. This is every single conversation that Rachel has with Michael Beschloss. Wow. Let's bring on presidential historian Michael Beschloss. Michael, has Donald Trump ever done, has any president ever done this? Sorry. Rachel goes, Michael, is there any precedent for what Donald Trump has clearly done that is clearly unprecedented?
Starting point is 00:13:53 Michael Beschloss says, no. Rachel says, watch this space. And it cuts and it's commercial break. Watch this space. That's what happens every time. And it does happen every time. And he's always, you know, flummoxed and surprised. Yes. She's becoming a beautiful
Starting point is 00:14:08 caricature of herself, I think. Explain this. A beautiful... In that, like, she gives it to you every ball, aka she gives you literally the same demeanor, the same take, pretty much every time, but it's always right. It's always good. She's spot on. I adore her.
Starting point is 00:14:23 She's number one. She's number one. She's spot on. I adore her. She's number one. She's number one. She is the female Walter Cronkite. Yes. There you go. That's rule of culture number 100. Rachel Maddow is the female Walter Cronkite. Write that down, kids. Write that down.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Listen and learn, children. Listen and learn. I have to be tuning into Rachel Maddow a little bit more because let me tell you, my number one political source of news right now is The View. Well, and you got to be tuning into Rachel Maddow a little bit more because let me tell you, my number one political source of news right now is The View. Well, and you got to be careful with that. You truly do because they're rarely accurate.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Yeah, the blue cards are not always on spot. No, they're rarely accurate. Also, I think Meghan McCain has a cold this week and it's really adding a whole new dimension to the annoying there. To the timbre of her tone. Yeah, which is already sort of like it's it's already kind of voice you know i yes not to uh talk negatively about a woman's voice oh no god no no no me too that's the same but that's what we do that's what we do that's what we do you know it's in a loving way and like you know even the list that we'll get to in a moment
Starting point is 00:15:23 yeah it's not that I'm a negative person. It's just that I do what I'm told. You have things to say. You know, I have things to say. And yeah. Yeah. No, but the thing is, I try to like Meghan McCain. I try very hard.
Starting point is 00:15:35 I try very hard to. You try five days a week. I try five days a week from 11 to 12. There you go. Oh, my God. And that's much more than we do with people we know. Oh, yeah. Personally.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Isn't that interesting i would actually go as far as to say i know more about what she thinks than my even my closest friends yes travesty maybe it's because i assume i already know but you know what you want to love her you want to get to know people you want to share you other people's opinions this even gets to one of my things oh um which i'll just throw out there throw it out there it's both sides I can't take it oh no no no no no I can't take it it's not both sides
Starting point is 00:16:09 no no I'm sick of hearing that phrase it drives me bananas and that's all I can I don't have to go on further with that but it just drives me bananas although there is this
Starting point is 00:16:17 there's this crazy study that was just released go on about the study where they tracked they basically tracked back the sources of tweets that were being retweeted by both Black Lives Matter
Starting point is 00:16:30 activists. And Blue Lives Matter. And Blue Lives Matter activists. And they all went back to the same Russian hacking factory. Yes. Wow. So, and equal proportions. So what the conclusion was, was that there's basically two Russian
Starting point is 00:16:44 troll hackers sitting next to each other somewhere in like Siberia. And one of them is tweeting something on the extreme right side and one of them is tweeting something. And then the other is tweeting something on the extreme left side just to sow chaos in the U.S. Yeah, because they want to stir things up so that each side sees each other as a caricature. They'd like us to have a civil war, I believe. Well, you know, a house divided. There you go.
Starting point is 00:17:14 A house divided. There you go. As the saying goes. As the saying goes, a house divided. There you go. That's actually rule number 14 of culture. A house divided. There you go. You know what? We're going a little trigger happy with the rules. It's very similar to my expression
Starting point is 00:17:30 which is, if the shoe fits, okay. Listen, we are getting a little trigger happy with it, but this is the thing. People need to keep up. Yes, they do. This is a lightning round. You need to keep up. This is a special special podcast. We trained for this. It's not a lightning round. It need to keep up this is a special special podcast we
Starting point is 00:17:45 trained for this it's not a lightning round it's an enlightening round thank you wow that is brilliant that's and let me tell you something thomas jefferson you're one of the most brilliant people i know oh my friend my friend and that was amongst the most brilliant things you've ever said it's not a lightning round it's an round. And I stand on the shoulders of giants and they're sitting right next to me at this table. Very much. It's the last thing to go on a woman,
Starting point is 00:18:11 her shoulders. It's the last thing to go on a woman. Wait, we need to talk about Nathan's ensemble. Okay, yes, because you came in with the necklace of the year. Do we call this a necklace? It's from Hawaii, yes. Yes, I love it. They're like shells.
Starting point is 00:18:26 What is it? Describe it. They're black shells. Big black shells. Big black shells. But they're formed into these little sort of balls. Black balls. Yes. And they're around my neck. Black balls
Starting point is 00:18:41 around my neck. Black balls around my neck. But let's just talk because because the color story is, is it monochrome? How would you describe it? I'm wearing all in black and white. Yeah. So it's all black and white. And technically,
Starting point is 00:18:52 black and white are not colors. Right. They're basics. They are shades. And you know, I can be a very basic bitch as well. We all have it. I think we all can.
Starting point is 00:18:59 I think we all have that. And so we are going to Orlando in a short amount of time. Well, there you have it. There you have it. Now, are you shady about Orlando? I am not shady about Orlando. Because people have televisions there.
Starting point is 00:19:13 They do. Absolutely. You know what? A beautiful answer. If you live in Orlando, you better tune into Fox Tuesday nights at 9 and watch LA to Vegas. I like this fucking show. I was watching it today and I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:26 okay, jokes. Okay, jokes. And you've got great actors. Okay, can I tell you, I'm gagged for the lead actress of the show because... Yes, she's very kind, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Of course she is. She is lovely. Can I tell you, the way she... Kim Matula. Yes, Kim Matula. Is that how you pronounce it? The way she delivers jokes,
Starting point is 00:19:44 you say, that's a nice person. I can't describe how I feel that way. It's a feeling. It's an essence. It's a tone. And she is so wonderfully smart and politically minded and just a great, great woman. I'm obsessed.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Do you know where I know her and where you may know her from? She looks familiar. She looks familiar. That's because, did you watch the second season of Unreal? I did not. She plays, did you watch Unreal? I don't know why I asked. I did when I found out she was in it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Okay. Good. Okay, so in the second season of Unreal, she plays, like, they get a black suitor. And they're like, it's the first year we're going to have a black suitor. So he was a former NFL player, and they put her on on the show and her dad owns an NFL team. And they want them to get together. But she ends up fucking the executive producer who's gross. There you go.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And that's the meaty role. A lot of conflict happens there. And she, you know, she does an end up. She's fantastic in every possible way. She's a delight to work with. She's a wonderful person. And I can't say enough about her. No, she's great. She's lovely. to work with. She's a wonderful person. And I can't say enough about her. No, she's great.
Starting point is 00:20:46 She's lovely. Also, my man is on there. Dylan. And this is another one. We were talking about my top five before Bowen got it. And you were mentioning that we were talking about Jonathan Groff as I am wont to do. And you said, is he a mainstay on the list? I said, yes.
Starting point is 00:21:01 And then I was thinking about people on my list further than that. Yes. Mr. Dylan McDermott is on that list. Listen, what are you then I was thinking about people on my list further than that. Yes. Mr. Dylan McDermott is on that list. Listen, what are you going to do? He's suave and cool. Suave, cool, handsome as fuck. Handsome and as talented
Starting point is 00:21:12 as all get out. Oh, of course he is. We are actually having, which is one of my, I don't love this word when people ask me, are you having fun? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 First of all, it's not fun. No, it's work. It's work, but it's enjoyable is a better word. It's enjoyable to do. Yes, enjoyable to do. It's work. But it's enjoyable is a better word. It's enjoyable to do. It's such a joy to do. Fun is for, like, you know, Space Mountain.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Yeah, that's exactly what you do when you go to Space Mountain. You want to have fun at work. 16 hour days. It's not fun. Because also Space Mountain is not enjoyable. No. Especially when you get off. The neck is all out of whack. But, Dylan is a dream. Everyone is so when you get off. Yeah. The neck is all out of whack. The neck is fucked. But Dylan is a dream.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Oh. Everyone. That's great. That's great. He's so fun to work with. He's great. And I saw that there was an episode which also featured Dermot Mulroney. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Another dream boat. Another true dream. He will be returning. Okay. Dylan McDermott and Dermot Mulroney. In the same show. And that's a risk. It's a huge risk. Huge risk. And who was our third pilot on that?
Starting point is 00:22:10 Josh Duhamel. Josh Duhamel. That's another dream. This is a show full of hands. Yes. You know, I was sort of like, okay, well. Thank you. You had to have a fan. Yeah, the vapors. You have the vapors, honey.
Starting point is 00:22:26 I mean. Mixed vapor rub. Talk about. Okay. And she's also stunning too, Kim. Oh, yes. She's gorgeous. Everyone on the show is just gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:22:36 You're just like, get out of here. It's lovely. Lovely. And this one. Oh, please. No, come on. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:22:42 There you go. Take it. So talk about this role because, I mean, it's just. Bernard. It's Bernard. Bernard Jasser is his last name. Jasser. Jasser.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Two S's. Have we heard the last name on the show yet? We haven't. Okay, so this is breaking tea. Yes, breaking tea. Breaking news, honey. Bernard, everyone's been saying on the blogs, what is Bernard's last name? Jasser, bitch.
Starting point is 00:23:02 We can confirm it is Jasser. Bitch. Jasser, bitch. We can confirm it is Jasser. Bitch. Jasser, bitch. Now talk, because I feel like Bernard is so much more than the, and I hate to use this phrase, the quintessential gay flight attendant.
Starting point is 00:23:14 He is someone with agency. He is someone with. I have to agree with you and he will continue to show you that agency as the shows unfold. I love. Yeah, as the episodes come out. Nice.
Starting point is 00:23:26 They've been so kind to Bernard, and we're having a great time. And just you wait, Henry Higgins. Just you wait. Just you wait. See, and usually a show on a plane will make me anxious, because I am, of course, famously an anxious flyer. But I put Phil right at ease listening and watching to the show. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And we get off the plane, too. So we're going to get off the plane. There you go. I mean, of right at ease listening and watching to the show. Yes. And we get off the plane too. So we're going to get off the plane. There you go. I mean, of course, it's the nucleus of the show. It's the central character of the show, but we get off that plane
Starting point is 00:23:52 and you get to see other people's environs. Yeah. It's like the New York City in Sex and the City. The plane is like another character. Exactly. There you go.
Starting point is 00:24:00 The plane is the fifth lady. The fifth lady. Yes, jackpot, honey. Jackpot. Jackpot Airlines. Have you, did you ever, did you have to like, this is, this feels like a very, you know, weird question. Did you have to talk to a lot of male flight attendants or just flight attendants in general? We have someone there on the set.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Great. And as a matter of fact, I did an interview this morning. Can I mention what I did it on? Yes. Cheddar. Cheddar TV. Okay, Cheddar. Cheddar TV. Okay, Cheddar. And they asked me this lightning round sort of game show questions about phrases for flight attendants. I was like, bitch, I just played one on TV.
Starting point is 00:24:32 I don't know any of these things. So that was very interesting. Right. And I got most of the questions wrong. That's fine. That's fine. It's fine. I got the job.
Starting point is 00:24:41 It's true. But what's interesting is that we do have someone there. And it's very interesting to see them come in and say, we don't do that. You're stretching this. That's funny if you tie it in with that. See, I have a question about that person, though. If they're so good at flight attending, why aren't they up there doing it? Right?
Starting point is 00:24:59 Retired. There you go. Okay, well, that's a quick answer to the question I have. So now I feel more comfortable. Yeah, retired. Now I feel more comfortable yeah retired now I feel more comfortable with the whole thing yeah
Starting point is 00:25:07 you know flight attendants love them love them I will say the male ones I may or may not have had a little tiff
Starting point is 00:25:16 tryst a tryst not a tryst wait wait does tryst imply two more people no it's just a tryst
Starting point is 00:25:23 a menage a trois no it's not see that's what I was worried about so maybe I'm I used It's just a tryst. You're using a menage a trois. No, it's not. See, that's what I was worried about. So maybe I used the wrong word. No, a tryst is merely when you hook up with a flight attendant. I just hooked up with a flight attendant. You did?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Wait, spell the T-M-B-S. This was right after college. This was a while ago. Oh. But he was real interesting. He had like, his name, first of all, his... His name was not Bernard. No, his name was not Bernard. His name was spelled with an S-K-Y, Skyler.
Starting point is 00:25:47 And so of course he took that to the fucking Instagram bank. And at the time, this was 2012, already had like 40,000 followers. Yeah, redundant much. Skyler in the skies. He was like an Instagram famous flight attendant. Skyler in the skies and a freak in Instagram famous flight attendant Skyler in the skies and a freak in the sheets oh anyway
Starting point is 00:26:07 but he mile high indeed mile high indeed he had he showed me like they get these like
Starting point is 00:26:15 printouts every day of like their routes and all this stuff yes we have those as well right
Starting point is 00:26:21 and it's it just it just seems like an untenable lifestyle. And so hats off to people who do that. I always equate them to actors because they have to feel out the audience. Yes. They have to know what people are feeling, what they're going through.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Yeah. Sort of attend to them because you're stuck together. Right. Like in the theater. Yes. For those moments. And it's like, we we gotta deal with each other and also every passenger
Starting point is 00:26:48 is judging the flight attendant I do it too I just realized I do this but I was literally on a flight a couple weeks ago and I was like okay what's the deal with my flight attendant are they friendly are they cute what are they doing are they quick
Starting point is 00:27:03 and you do. You judge them. And they do the same. Like when someone steps on stage. And they do the same. I bet they do. With every passenger. That's probably fun for them. Oh, I'm sure it is.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I mean, it keeps them going. Yeah. Oh my God, I've never really thought about that in my life. It keeps me going. Especially with our extras. We have extras who fly on jackpots. Is that a similar relationship there? Are you treating them with the same sort of
Starting point is 00:27:26 arm's length? In general, yes. I don't mean for you to make some blanket statement. No, but in general, yes, because you want to have a professional sort of thing going. But then as far as Nathan, two fellow actors, I assume that some of them are actual actors
Starting point is 00:27:41 who are a part of the extra... Of course I'm very kind to them. Because you want that sort of camaraderie and all that sort of thing happening yeah but in general i don't want them near me right of course no get them away and also they can eat after me exactly they can eat after me after i'm done after you're done i was on a set and this this this background person finished was looking for like there were weren't outlets where we were filming. And so she was looking for this outlet. And then I was looking for an outlet, too.
Starting point is 00:28:09 But then she had, like, taken this outlet before I did. And so I was just like, hey, you know what? That's fine. And so I went to the PA and I was like, is there an extra outlet for my phone? She goes, you know what? We're going to kick that Rosemary off of hers. And I was like, no, no, no. I was like, no, don't do that.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's crazy. She was like, you get priority. We're going to kick her off. I was like, no, no, no, don't do that. It's crazy. She's like, you get priority. We're going to kick her off. I was like, no, don't. Absolutely not. Because then that does reflect on you, not them. It does reflect on me. It's like, well, Bowen Yang knocked my phone out of its port.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And I was like, no, no, no, please don't do that. So anyway. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies?
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Starting point is 00:29:11 We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude. And Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes.
Starting point is 00:29:29 What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dudes. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.
Starting point is 00:29:43 Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean.
Starting point is 00:30:08 He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:30:23 At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
Starting point is 00:30:54 as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists.
Starting point is 00:31:19 We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. You know what? But what happened? What was the inevitable thing that happened? I went and found my own outlet. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And all was well. All was well. Well, listen, you paid it forward. Paid it forward. Now, I have not really seen that many pieces of art that focus on the life of a flight attendant. No, we're one of the few. I guess the last one was that Gwyneth Paltrow movie,
Starting point is 00:32:25 View from the Top. You ever seen that? Was it a film? It was a film. It was not a television show. Well, there has been a television show, but it was before you both were born, and it was called Flying High, and it starred Connie Selica. So you have to sort of look that up.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Connie Selica. I'm giving you some deep dive there. Please. Also, they had that Pan Am show, but it wasn't a comedy. Right. Wasn't Margot Robbie in that? Yes, she was indeed, and she was wonderful in it. She's wonderful, period. Jennifer Goodwin. Also, yes, Jennifer Goodwin as well. I'm sorry to interrupt. No, please, let's interrupt all
Starting point is 00:32:57 the time. Also, I think I may be making some history here. I might be the first out flight attendant on network television. That is stunning. Series regular. When you take into account that the majority of those flight attendants probably have to be gay, right? But also, I don't want to assume.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Well, I mean, even just outside of that. I mean, that's huge. That's huge. Amazing. Trailblazer. Trailblazer. I mean, I'm sure you made some sort of history with even Zoolander. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:33:28 Even like, you know what? Nathan's been done making history. Done been. That's what I meant to say. Done been making. Done been done making. Done been done been. How was it?
Starting point is 00:33:39 What was it like to work with Mila Jovovich? First of all, she is a delight. I bet. She really is the best. When we did two, 15 years later, she said, fuck, in Rome, on the set, because I hadn't seen her until she did her stuff. And she was like, why do you look the same?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Why do you look the same? Ben Stiller, also, first day of my shooting, stopped all the production and was like, Nathan Lee Graham is here today on the set. Why the fuck does he look the same? All right, let's get back to it. Because you know what? Ben Stiller, God love him, has aged a little bit in the 15 years since. Still handsome.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Very. Very handsome. And such a delight to work with. Of course. I really, I love him you know that's a sex symbol that no one really shouts out oh i've always been into ben stiller ben stiller's hot always done especially like especially in zulian or when you saw his body well i think that was a fake body well well you know what tropic thunder fine but like it's by the time you got
Starting point is 00:34:39 to tropic thunder it was like whoa there was like a scene where they were like doing like a like a fake montage of like the vh1 model or whatever and they cut to his body and it was absolutely ripped and of course like of course that at the time was like whoa I have a boner for Ben Stiller but that could not possibly have been his body yeah it was it might have been a comedic Owen Wilson's that was his real body though um I do okay let's address this thing that nathan's just brought up because do you have what what is your what is the regimen what is what what is keeping this intact because the children should know unless you don't want to give that away which is which is fine you can't give away all your secrets you can give away the recipe and leave one thing out and there you go there you go and they have to figure it out on their own. That's rule of culture number 81. You can give away the recipe, but leave one thing out.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So here's the thing. I don't do anything special. Okay. It's the majority of it's jeans. Jeans. And I don't mean, you know, like Gloria Vanderbilt. Not the ones you wear. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Gloria Vanderbilt jeans. Okay. Okay. She makes jeans? She used to. She gave some good jeans to her son, though. Mm-hmm. He looking good.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Yes, Jordache, Gloria Vanderbilt. Oh, yeah. You know Jordache. Yes, all that. The Jordache look. It is Jordache. Anyway, you know, I'll pull out the old references. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:35:57 So here's the thing. I just take care of myself. Yes. I do eat properly. I work out three to four times a week. There you go. I have, you know, I just, I take care of my skin. You know, especially when you have to wear makeup on the set.
Starting point is 00:36:11 Yes. I, you know, I clean my face and everything with strict regimen, morning and night. So I do take care of myself. Well, you have to. Yeah, but part of it's genes too. I mean, like, if you've got fucked up genes, sorry. bitch well to quote mila fuck why why why does he look the same mila that's so funny i love imagining the fury that was that was like in there because you know she can serve some fury yeah and she's so amazing she's an amazing mother an amazing musician oh
Starting point is 00:36:43 that's amazing yeah great fantastic you. Fantastic. That's great. You forget, like, wait, was Miss Christine in Zoolander too? Yes. She was. Okay. I love Miss Christine. I love Miss Christine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Lovely, lovely, lovely. You know, I get along with all of the people I've worked with because I'm the person that's not directly in conflict with anyone. Right. I'm usually cast as, you know, that person that is just not, you know. Yeah. Which, which really does just like,
Starting point is 00:37:09 behoove you, just to like, be that sort of, Because when you go method on set, as I'm sure you do, you're then not stirring it up. Right. Whenever I'm cast as the major villain in a,
Starting point is 00:37:20 in a, in a picture, I'm always stirring it up. Listen, I don't have to star in anything. I just have to steal it. There you go. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Now that's got to be a classic Nathan line. Now let's get into the upbringing, shall we? Sure, sure, sure. Oh gosh. Now we're going to ask the question that we do ask every guest, and that is what is the culture that steered you in a cultural direction? It was when you said, if you were Pocahontas,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and there was the course that was culture, and there was another course that was just a certain other kind of culture, this is the course you chose. That is a convoluted way to ask the question. Movies, music, books. Television shows, books, hometown.
Starting point is 00:38:07 What made Nathan Nathan? This is going to sound a little long-winded, but my mom said to me, because I was her first child and she was a young mother, married, but young. Important. I mean, you know, no bastards around here. Some of these single mothers out here.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Some of these bastards. Roaming free? Right? No. No Hamiltons around here Some of these single mothers out here Some of these bastards roaming free Right No, no Hamiltons around here Okay How does a bastard, etc Thank you The question didn't get answered in the musical Thank you
Starting point is 00:38:38 You're gonna start the musical with a question? Fucking answer it Answer the question That's rule of culture number 14 You're gonna start the musical with a question. Answer it. Exactly. But you can't handle the truth.
Starting point is 00:38:48 No, really? Okay. Your mother. Yes. So, so she would sing to me because she didn't get into the baby sort of talk or whatever when I was in her womb.
Starting point is 00:38:59 So I, I sort of feel as though I was predisposed to be some things sort of artistic. Yes. Then she said I was predisposed to be something sort of artistic. Yes. Then she said I was born and there was lots of lightning. I was born at 1.01 a.m. on a Monday. I love that. And she said that my feet came out. Feet first.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Feet first. Usually not good. And then they were like, oh, dear, what's happening? Push him back in, turn him around. What? Uh-uh. And then use these things called forceps. Which they don't use anymore because I was born in the Middle Ages. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:39:33 To pull my big-ass head out. My mother says my head now is the same size as it was when it came out of my womb. Oh, my God. I was like, you know what? Really? Now you got jokes. Mom, don't embellish. But anyway, I digress.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And then, you know, they would plop me down in front of black and white films so you know this is before Turner Classics and all of that sort of thing and I used to conflate Broadway with movie musicals oh sure and then of course immediately I started working when I was
Starting point is 00:40:04 six so you know where was home And then, of course, immediately I started working when I was six. Uh-huh. Yeah. Nice. So, you know. Where was home? Where did you go from? Well, I was born in St. Louis, but then sort of raised in Los Angeles and back and forth.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Because of work? Right. Yes. And so Bad News Bears Go to Japan was like my first film. And then, you know, it was a glorified extra and I had done Sanford and Son and all of these sort of things. As a kid, it doesn't matter. You're in stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:27 Yeah. Yeah. So and then my first show was The Wiz, the first national tour. I was a munchkin in Los Angeles because they would hire the kids locally. Yes. So that's how it all sort of started. I started so early that I don't really know anything different. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And I've never done anything else. Yes. Yes. But that's how you know that it's what you all sort of started. I started so early that I don't really know anything different. And I've never done anything else. Yes, yes. But that's how you know that it's what you're meant to do. Well, in a way, in a way. Yeah. I mean, some people can become disillusioned along the way. Right, right, right, right. You certainly have lean times and, you know, abundant times.
Starting point is 00:40:58 But I've just been very fortunate, knock on wood, to have always worked. This isn't wood what we just knocked on ice. We'll let everyone know at home. It's that thing called MD something. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. knock on wood to have always worked and this isn't wood will be just knocked on i just want to let everyone know at home it's that thing called md something oh yeah yeah yeah i mean it's wood but it's like chips of wood right chips and this is a veneer and right anyway well there's wood just i'm gonna tap on wood now there you go do it perfect you guys heard that there you go so all you superstitious motherfuckers exactly thank you get out. Get out of here. And a dose of salt. So that's really how sort of it happened.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And I was always inspired by big, huge movie stars. Betty Davis, Joan Crawford, the whole thing. Anything sort of typically known as gay now, which just simultaneously means good. Yes. It truly actually does. You know, just it's the same thing as good. So did you watch Feud? of course yeah you were a fan
Starting point is 00:41:48 oh absolutely and I knew all of that stuff before watching it right right but I enjoyed watching the the depiction yeah the depiction and the layout
Starting point is 00:41:55 and how the gals did they did quite well I thought I think it's a shame that it comes out the same year as Big Little Lies and everyone made it like a competition between them
Starting point is 00:42:04 because naturally that is what happens at the end of the year when there isn't awards. They do make it a competition. They do pet the women against their teeth. But I couldn't believe that Jessica Lange would give the performance that she gives in that last episode and go unrewarded. Like, Nicole is amazing. Right. I think deserves everything.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Wonderful. Ooh, that last episode of Feud. So good. That was. In the living room. So good. That was... In the living room. So good. Yeah. The whole conversation between all of them.
Starting point is 00:42:29 When Judy Davis goes, Legends all. As Hedda Harper. Hedda Harper. As Miss Hedda. I loved all of that. So good. Yeah, that's sort of how I got into it.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And, you know, not to be a cliche walking around, but it really is one of those things where I was just enamored with people who are really good at what they did. Yes. And very early on. Yeah. And then, you know, subsequently got to work with some people that I idolized, you know, like Eartha Kitt. Oh. Eartha.
Starting point is 00:43:00 We were just talking about her performance as Yzma. Oh, yes. The other day. Which she did pretty much up to her dying day. Yeah. Wonderfully. Yeah. Oh, she's a legend for all time.
Starting point is 00:43:11 But just Eartha, there's just footage of her being interviewed. There's just little snippets of her just in different settings, but just saying these delicious things. Yes, iconic drops. Yes yes that's that's the perfect description iconic drops like like just her about her not needing a man yes and compromising and compromising yes yes yes and she just like just has she like laughs away questions she'll be like she'll be like what like like just ridicul like, what? Ha ha ha ha ha! Like just ridiculing the person
Starting point is 00:43:47 who's asking her these questions. Well yeah, it's like how dare you? Exactly, it's like why would you ask me that? But what a perfect way to be like, no what you just asked me was stupid. Is insane. And I refuse to answer. Well we had a delightful time doing the wild party on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah, please talk about it. I was gonna ask you, you said you worked with her, yeah. Yeah, that was a, I mean, I mean you talk about a wonderful Broadway cast. And I don't wanna leave anyone out, but I'll start naming, you said you worked with her. Yeah. Yeah. That was a I mean, I mean, you talk about a wonderful Broadway cast and I don't want to leave anyone out. But I'll start naming, you know, names of dear friends like Michael McElroy and Norm Lewis and Tanya Pinkins and Tony Collette and Mandy Patinkin. Oh, my gosh. Leah Hawking, Sally Murphy, Jane Summer Hayes. Oh, gosh, gosh, gosh.
Starting point is 00:44:21 I'm leaving people out. And I hate that. Brooke Sonny Morber. Just a whole list of wonderful people. Miss Toni Collette. Mr. Mandy Patinkin. Yeah, true. I mean...
Starting point is 00:44:35 And Eartha, of course. Of course, Eartha, but, you know... Stuart Zagnett, Adam Gruper. There you go. It's all coming to me. There you go. I can't believe Toni Collette sometimes. I think she should be
Starting point is 00:44:45 one of those Yancy Arias I'll just keep throwing please just as they come for the rest of the episode I'll just talk about Toni Collette
Starting point is 00:44:52 please and you can chime in with more names with more names no I mean she's I mean listen
Starting point is 00:45:00 what do you say what do you say well it's like we had John Early on the show and he that's his beloved is Donnie Collette. And he always does a wonderful impression of, I wanted to make my mother proud.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Make my mother proud. Of course, in The Sixth Sense. Nathan, is there opportunity, enthusiasm, interest? I mean, this feels like such an obvious question to return to the theater at some point. Oh, please. I never want to leave it. But you're in L.A. now. Well, I am.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But, you know, you have time off. We do. And you always prepare to do things on the... I forget. You can't really, if you are a serious person, a serious artist, you can't really ever leave anything. Especially if you want to come back to it. I just saw Hello Dolly and Bernadette's back on Broadway
Starting point is 00:45:50 and Victor Garber is there as well. These are people who do tons of television as well. So, you know, but they're back on stage and you can't, if you really want to, you know, I hope to be ubiquitous in that kind of way where you just keep it going.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I think you're already there. I think, I think it's just about scaling that up. Yes. I have a question. So you said you've been doing it since you were very, very young and it's always been a part of your life. Was there ever a moment where you were like,
Starting point is 00:46:15 you know what, let me set this to the side for a second and just see if I have another passion or anything or not at all? Not at all. Okay. And I thought about it, but I never did it. Right. and then it got to be too late well at that point where i became such a weirdo um you know such a specialized person yeah that
Starting point is 00:46:35 my lens of seeing anything was always through that sort of artist lens sure and uh so really i'm not suited. To do anything else. To do anything else. I feel that way as well. Yeah. Same. If anyone asked me to ever do anything besides sit here and talk, I would vomit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I mean, you know, I love to talk. That's true. On occasion. But I mean, that's also performative, right? Right. And I have to have something to talk about. So it means I have to keep working. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:02 Right. You got to get those projects to be able to talk. You gotta do it. You gotta just do it. You know what, I hope this is the same for the both of you, but I would talk to anyone in this room, even if we didn't have jobs, even if we weren't working, I would talk to any of you.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Let me scan the room. Yes. I think I'll talk to you all. Yes, absolutely. Thank you, thank you. HPJ just fanned himself and put only his fingers on his chest, which like this. That's where they go. Which means he's been hanging out with us too much. He gave himself two fans and then placed his hand on his chest like he was Bebe Zahara
Starting point is 00:47:36 Benet in that one music video. Cameroon? She was the first winner, yes. The first winner. Do you watch RuPaul's Drag Race? Yes. It's okay if you don't. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:47:47 I do. Yes, but- I do for the papers. I always say- For the papers. For the papers. No, of course. I've had a friend on every episode.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Oh, really? You know, at least one person. Oh, you mean like in terms of the guest judges or like the queens? Both. Really? Wow. So I hope to be a guest judge on that show someday. Oh, you would be a fabulous guest judge. And I Really? Wow. So I hope to be a guest judge on that show someday. Oh, you are on the path.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Fabulous guest judge. And I adore them all. And I think what Ru is doing is so important. Revolutionary. You know, just bringing it to the children. Absolutely. Bringing it to all the children. I am, I would be remiss, my publicist would not be pleased if I did not mention.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Dan. NLG, NYC, Le Jazz Classique. That's the new jazz album that i'm working on this year and it will be completed hopefully by the end of 2018 we're going to talk about this album but we love that is is this true that you are technically a grammy winning artist i am do you have the grammy at your house no because when you're part of nine soloists, even though I did 10 numbers. You have to pay for it?
Starting point is 00:48:48 You have to pay for it. And I technically have two. We won seven for Best Classical Album of 2005. So it's still, you know, it's there for me. It's there. I just haven't bothered to do it. Sure. We actually wrote that to you
Starting point is 00:49:02 that you have to pay for the actual statue, which was such- Because it goes to the composer, William Bolcom for the, this is the songs of innocence and of experience. Um, William Blake, we put to music and,
Starting point is 00:49:15 uh, it's very heady and wonderful. Like this three hour cantata oratorio sort of thing. Oh my God. And I was just privileged enough to, to be a part of it. Oh, that's so cool.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I mean, but you're, I mean, you're, you're, you're, you've got the G and the E got. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:31 that's true. So is that the only one you have thus far? I got to get, yeah, I got the G. I got to get the T. You'll get the E and the T, of course.
Starting point is 00:49:38 The E is going to happen. Alec Mapa says, and the Emmy goes to, I said, listen, bitch, if that happens, you're going to go to the ceremony with me.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Why did I say that? Because other people were like, wait a minute. You better have a plus two then. But it was so kind of him. I adore Alec Mappa. He's so talented. Talk about Alec. He's great.
Starting point is 00:49:57 He's a hero of mine, just for very obvious reasons. I've loved him for a thousand years. Oh, my God. He's just the best. He is the best. And he's so generous and so supportive and lovely. And just super talented. You wouldn't think anything less.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I mean, he is like Kim in that you see them killing the jokes and you're like, that's a nice person too. But with Alec, it's like, I mean, and you know, this visibility, blah, blah, blah. But it's like, you know, you weren't seeing any. You still aren't. I mean, you weren't seeing like a queer Asian person. No, you weren't. And you still don't see enough of them. And so, well, listen, you don't see enough of anybody.
Starting point is 00:50:32 No, you don't. I believe. Now, let's get a little political. I believe that, you know, there should be some sort of gay representative in everything. Because there is. Yes. I mean, I was just lost here on pearl street by myself that's a gay lost on pearl street and there's one and just one and that's all we need
Starting point is 00:50:50 okay and you represented them so well yeah thank you thank you on these cobblestone streets you understand how does that present a queer narrative go ahead and explain that being lost on pearl street presents a queer never this is bowen's area of expertise. Go on, Bowen. Orientational disarray. There you go. There's one. Oh, my God. This is a proximity to water.
Starting point is 00:51:15 There you go. There's number two. Number three, cobblestones. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. So I just think that we should be everywhere in every story. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:24 It's not like, oh, he's gay. No, it's like, no, this is another person. This is another narrative. This is another fabric of the human existence. The tapestry. Yes. There was one show that I couldn't believe didn't have a gay character because it was such a gay show. Now I don't know it.
Starting point is 00:51:42 But even like, I don't know. There's some shows out there where I'm like, where is gay here like i just and you don't see it that could literally be any show should have a game well i started doing those roles and wanting to have those roles uh before any even some of my uh wonderful gay colleagues uh did and it wasn't about just you know banging people over the head it was like no um these roles are being written and straight people are taking them and winning awards so why don't you want to do them why do you feel like you have to be validated by only doing straight roles yeah straight none of my straight actor friends go around and say oh i'm so sick of playing straight roles there you go
Starting point is 00:52:19 can i tell you what grinds my fucking gears off? Is when people are saying that Timothee Chalamet's character, Elio, in Call Me By Your Name, is bisexual. No, bitch. That is gay, man. I think it's based on the book. Is he bisexual in the book? He is in the book because in the ending,
Starting point is 00:52:38 which is not depicted in the movie, both of them have future relationships with men and women so on some technical level okay in that movie he has a straight experience and is gay okay tell me elio like the pizza elio's pizza which no one's talking about okay all right which is so great no the rectangle yes that's delicious no one's talking about the fact that elio was named after the pizza italian listen it's square no pizza. Italian. Listen, it's square. No, it's not square.
Starting point is 00:53:07 It's rectangle. Rectangular. You can cut it into a square if you want it. And a crispy bottom. Crispy bottom. Beautiful. We're going to go right past that. Really, really good.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I was going to go in, but now you know what? We're going to go past it. I just got it. I just got it, unfortunately. It took me long. I was on a lag. It's all right. I was jet a lag. It's all right. I was jet lagged on that joke to call it back to LA to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:53:29 But listen, he's not buying that movie. He has a straight experience like we all do. We all suffer through that. And then we get to gay. Do we? I haven't. I haven't. Really?
Starting point is 00:53:39 What are the gold? Gold. We're not platinum. In terms of sex, yeah. Platinums are hard. Platinums are C-sections. C-sections, yeah of sex, yes. Platinums are hard. Platinums are C-sections. C-sections, yeah, yeah, yeah. They never touch the vagina.
Starting point is 00:53:48 In terms of a vagina, I've never touched, I've never seen one even with my own eyes. I have a joke about this, but I can't say it on air. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. We'll revisit it later. We'll revisit it. And then, you know, we'll let these boys leave the room.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Yeah. I want to touch on something, because you just talked about, you know, we'll let these boys leave the room. Yeah. I want to touch on something because you just talked about, you know, just, you know, having that representation or just having gay actors play gay roles. But I do want to talk about and ask you about your experience with being an actor, a gay actor, at a time when diversity wasn't this buzzword. Where it wasn't like this thing of like, oh, this is actually desirable, where it was actually so institutionally challenging for you to actually book these roles
Starting point is 00:54:32 and play these things. Like, I mean, how do you square that now? Like, is that, I mean, it's obviously positive, but like, was it? It was difficult because I would go in for gay roles and they would say I wasn't gay enough because they didn't know any gay people like me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Who sort of didn't, you know, have come in with a pink bow and an immediate limp wrist and, you know, over the top and sort of Paul Lynn, which I had no problem with either. Right. But I was like, no, we're just really sort of regular, normal people. I said, I can be elegant at times. But, you know, it was hard for me to get a role. And the first gay role that I received was The Wild Party.
Starting point is 00:55:09 In 2000. With Arthur. Yeah. 2000. Wow. And then how long had you been auditioning for screen stuff? I never really wanted to do film or TV. So it had happened, but it just happened. And then of course, even on stage though it was
Starting point is 00:55:26 it was never sort of an overtly yeah gay rotten nothing and i had been working right so uh you know it was sort of maybe flamboyant or over the top or charismatic oh yeah it's so funny when they put a word in there that they think doesn't when they think isn't like hitting it over like one thing i go in for a lot of assistance and i i get officious a lot yes like officious um well-dressed uh we've said on the show like fastidious fastidious that's a new one we're seeing a lot you know dapper uh you know foppish foppish i mean foppish is yeah that's you know what they want but sometimes like when when they just will say gay it's interesting to go into the room and see what else people have prepared because some people will come in with this sort of caricature yeah and it can be confusing because you don't know who's casting it maybe they do want the caricature
Starting point is 00:56:22 or maybe they do want when i read gay i'm like maybe i'll just go in as myself and that'll be enough because i'm gay but it's confusing because it's like from a casting standpoint what do they want how can i represent this um like with integrity it's very kind of confusing you know it starts it starts with the material yeah if the material is good um that's all I really actually care about. If the writing is good, that's where you start. And then you can get into the minutia of personality acting. Yeah. You know, but just ask John Wayne what that's about.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Sure. You know, or any major star you can think of. Very rarely do you have a Meryl Streep. Right. Who will step into a role and becomes that person so intently that you can't believe that she played someone else at some point. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:09 You know, and I don't mean that as a bad thing. I just mean, that's not as, you know. It's not normal. Right. It's not normal.
Starting point is 00:57:18 And also it's like, sort of not in vogue now. Right. You know what I mean? There's not a lot of actors you can say besides Meryl. And there's not a lot of like you can say besides merrill and there's not a lot of like i think people like for example like say margot robbie's age that do the chameleon
Starting point is 00:57:32 thing and that's why when everyone's like like somebody asked a question recently who's the next who's the merrill of like our generation and someone said searsher ronan i'm like that you know that's close but really it's like nowadays, because you need a personal brand and everything, you don't see a lot of people stepping in and out of things and disappearing. Because it's important that we're also able to see them slay it on a talk show. Someone that says Jennifer Lawrence is the next Meryl,
Starting point is 00:57:57 it's like, well, there's a big difference there. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Although I did see that she'll be playing a Russian woman so that would be fascinating I saw that that would be fascinating
Starting point is 00:58:11 we'll see we'll see I think what happens with that sort of thing with the Russian thing is people leave out their voices and a voice is a part of the character that you're developing and so I just want to put that out there sure they're forsaking the voice for the accent yeah complete your character with the voice you have to complete follow through that is really like roger federer yes yes yes that's that's very
Starting point is 00:58:37 true i never thought about that until this second and when you can't figure out why you're not loving someone's performance it's usually their voice. Oh! Can I tell you, sometimes with Kate Winslet, and I think she's usually brilliant, but sometimes when her American accent seems extra-American, I'm always like,
Starting point is 00:58:57 what's going on? I think she's better when she speaks in some sort of European dialect, and I read that English and Australian actors have a specifically hard time with the American accent because of the R's. Like they speak, the R's are like that. And then the R is like a hard thing.
Starting point is 00:59:16 So I can really hear them struggling to do that. Just one thing that kind of distracts me. And also Nicole Kidman and Naomi Watts clearly have the same vocal coach because they have the same voice when they do American roles. Maybe there's only one in Perth. Maybe there's only one in Perth. On the west coast
Starting point is 00:59:33 of Australia. I love Perth though I love it. You have televisions there. We love you Perth. We love you Perth. All of our listeners in Perth. We're coming. We're coming. I don't think so honey in Perth. It's coming live in 2026. There you go. Perth. I would love to visit. Perth. We're coming. We're coming. I don't think so, honey, in Perth. It's coming live in 2026. There you go. Perth, I would love to visit.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Perth is the only place in Australia I have not had the privilege of going to. What? You've been everywhere else, bitch? Shut up. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:59:54 You haven't been to the Outback, you hoe. Now, I... Ooh. We just made a left turn. I just don't like lies. Yes. Lies and fairy tales.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Lies and fairy tales. That's the Bowen Yang story. Official. You know what? Fine. I own don't like lies. Yes. Lies and fairy tales. Lies and fairy tales, the Bowen Yang story, official. You know what? Fine. I own up to my embellishment. Listen, you've got to do it
Starting point is 01:00:11 when you can. When you can. You're talking like you're Elizabeth Hasselbeck herself been to the Australian outback. Legs and shoulders, the last thing to go on a woman. And it's legs now.
Starting point is 01:00:25 Oh my God, this is fantastic. Now, okay, this sounds like it's legs now. Oh my god, this is fantastic. Now, okay, this sounds like it's a I've been prefacing all my questions, but this is a little... Yeah, stop doing that. Yeah, I'm ready. It's actually rule number 13 of culture. Stop apologizing for yourself, you stupid bitch. You know what, Nathan, I'm gonna ask you
Starting point is 01:00:40 straight. Please. Is this, is LA to Vegas, does it feel like a reunion with will and maybe you're not seeing him every day on set but at least you're well this is how it feels it feels as though the tonality of the show is is so him yes and that is so special to me good because it just feels like home you know like i get his humor uh humor. And so because it's close to mine as far as this genre is concerned. And I love the fact that it's so fast paced that you actually have to watch it twice. It really is.
Starting point is 01:01:16 So which is great because you can go back and like, you know, did they say that? Oh, they did say that. So, you know, it's great. And apparently I'm putting the gift game oh of course you are full blast you can give a reaction you've been on the gift you've been on this gift you know i had no idea but then you know the children are telling me now the children know that i'm full on gif but it's it's the face it's it's the face it's the body it's face face body face give them face body face and more bb zahara, face, body, face. Give them face, body, face.
Starting point is 01:01:45 And more Bibi Zahara. We're very into Bibi Zahara Benet and her music career. Yes, underscoring. Underscoring. Underscoring. You are providing the material so you should be very, very happy and satisfied. There's no better line there's no better interaction
Starting point is 01:02:01 in Doolander than the one you have after the coffee is spilled. No, the latte, the foamy latte. Which we did 14 times. That was shot 14 times. 14 spills? 14 spills. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:02:11 And the reaction is the same because if it's cold or hot, it's the same on screen. For sure. Right? Yes, yes. And I remember Ben being rather perplexed about the coffee not showing up on the t-shirt. And he said, this is the gayest t-shirt in the world because we were wearing two exists and that's when two exists just came out but it wasn't tight enough
Starting point is 01:02:30 because it had to be you know I have a nice I can't believe I was going to say I have a nice chest I have a defined chest yes a defined chest is what I meant to say I have a defined so we needed the shirt to sort of frame to say. Oh, oh, no, no. I have a defined, so, so we needed the shirt to sort of frame it
Starting point is 01:02:49 and come away from the crevice. Which I think it did a good job of doing. Right, but what they had to do was they had to cut it
Starting point is 01:02:55 on the sides and sew her up because we tried to do it with a little clamp but it was pulling in the wrong spot, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Okay. Movie magic. That's what they call that movie magic. Yes. We'll be learning about that when we go to Universal Studios. We will.
Starting point is 01:03:09 I mean, we... And that was B-roll. That wasn't supposed to be. Really? We were doing that for Ben's benefit. A plus. If that wasn't in the movie,
Starting point is 01:03:18 I mean, we wouldn't know because we would never have seen it, but that would have been a real loss. A real loss to cinema. It's an inherently queer moment. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:03:29 It's rippled out. You know, it's one of those moments that you are watching. I mean, Nathan's laughing, but it's true. It's very gay, and thank God. And also, that's how I know I love Will Ferrell so deeply. Because, like, of course, then he became, like, sort of the poster child for, like, 15-year-old high school kids
Starting point is 01:03:46 being like, oh, yeah, San Diego, whale's vagina, dude. Ha ha! But, like, no, what they don't understand is there was the foamy latte. Foamy latte
Starting point is 01:03:55 makes me bloated and gassy? Yes. Yes. I mean... Farty and bloated with the foamy latte. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. My mistake, sir.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Your mistake indeed. I mean, come on. My mistake, Jacques Aubin. I'm sorry. We're, sir. Your mistake indeed. I mean, come on. My mistake, Jacques Aubin. I'm sorry. We're in the presence of. Oh, you're right. We have to be perfect. And just originating the pronunciation.
Starting point is 01:04:12 I mean, there's just so much to unpack here. When I looked at it, I said, that's the way it sounds. Jacques Aubin. Jacques Aubin. Even hearing you say it now. Jacques Aubin. Oh, my God. I mean.
Starting point is 01:04:24 And we did have to cut because it was too much laughter after I first said it I was like what is everyone laughing about because that's that's why I actually thought it would sound I'm sorry how is it supposed to be pronounced I don't know I bet no one knew
Starting point is 01:04:40 you know but I said Jacobin you know I guess it didn't have to be sort of French on the front side of it. Ah. Ja. Yeah. It could have been Jacobin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that doesn't sound right.
Starting point is 01:04:53 Or like Joachim or Joachim. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Jacobin. Jacobin. But I thought he's a designer and he's trying to be, you know, a fancy designer. Yeah. Even though he's only done the piano tie.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And so I wanted to pump him up. Yes, yes, yes. Jacobin. Beautiful. That actually happened one other time in cinema history. Alicia Silverstone, instead of Haitians, said Haitians. And they went to correct her, and Amy Heckling, the director, was like,
Starting point is 01:05:21 don't you dare correct her. She will say Haitians each time, and it will be in the movie we can certainly party with the Hadeans it's so good it's brilliant so good one of the best ever I think
Starting point is 01:05:35 Jakob manages it out just I don't think I have two more favorite movies than Zoolander and Clueless and that says everything you know the night we were shooting that particular scene as well was right around the time that Al Gore had won and Bush had lost. And then by the time we finished, it switched.
Starting point is 01:05:56 I'm sure you've told this before, but this is huge. That had to be seared into your memory whenever you watch it. Yeah, it was snowing in the city at that time. Oh my God, this has to be inared into your memory whenever you watch it. Yeah, it was snowing in the city at that time. Oh my God. This has to be in some movie trivia. IMDB trivia.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Yeah, because we were all watching it once we started. That was a very long day. I remember it being over like 12, 14 hours. And he was winning and had won Florida. And then of course, all that nonsense. Wow, wow, wow. And just to go back to the wardrobe, i will say and you and you still do but the body was snatched the body was snatched snatched and it was like that i was like that that guy so funny and and look at him
Starting point is 01:06:38 wow and the fashion icon what he's saying by looking at him wow is he wanted you. Yumpy, yumpy, yum. This is great news. This makes me so happy. I hope this makes you proud. Yes, it does. Actually, recently, we recently met. Actually, Will Ferrell, did you watch his SNL that he just had? I did.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It was a fantastic episode. Fantastic. Fan-fucking-tastic. And I actually was in the writer's room because our dear friend, Sudi Green, is a writer on the show, and I was there for it, and I ran into our friend, his name is James Anderson. James Anderson. He's a writer on SNL
Starting point is 01:07:14 for many years, and I told him he wrote a sketch series called Deep House Dish. And he wrote... Oh, I remember this. Oh, you remember Deep House Dish. Of course, of course. That changed my life in terms of knowing that people got my sense of humor like i was like i can keep going on and existing in the world because someone gets it yes that to me was like that your entire performance in that movie i was like oh my god yes god just like a formative piece
Starting point is 01:07:41 you know yeah so thank you so we love telling you that. I appreciate it very much. So thank you for everything you've done and continue to do. Yes. LA to Vegas, fantastic. I can't wait to keep watching it. Just, it's good. We're preempted tomorrow night, I believe, because of another comedy at the White House. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Oh, sure. That broad comedy. Yeah. Dark comedy. Can you even fathom the nonsense that is Omarosa Manigault going on Celebrity Big Brother within a month of leaving the White House? It's truly. But it goes beyond irony. And I don't know what the phrase is.
Starting point is 01:08:17 It's not funny. It's not even like. Yeah. It's like I don't even know what it is. It's tragic. It's a phantasmagoria. It's like Chukovian or something. Sure. It's just I don't know know what it is. It's tragic. It's a phantasmagoria. It's like Chicovian or something. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:08:26 It's just, I don't know. It's beyond. It's beyond. And also, it's like you see her name and then the rest of the cast is like, oh my God, there's not even anyone here that's going to understand a word of what's going on. It's like Lance Bass, who I don't know,
Starting point is 01:08:41 maybe he's lovely and very intelligent. He might be. I don't know, but he should stay away. Oh, I mean, yeah. In any case, he doesn't have to go near Marosa. I didn't know if he was a secret close friend of yours. No, no, God. I mean, not no, no, God, but no.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Lance owns a TV. Lance owns a TV. No, Lance owns a TV. He does own a TV. I don't know. I think he probably watches like- Lance's friends have TVs. Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:03 So I- So let's- have TVs. Yes. So I. So let's. Yeah. Lance is on TV. Unfortunately, Lance's friends are every gay in L.A. So we have to wind this back. And I love the. What is that?
Starting point is 01:09:14 The thing he did. The race. The thing he did. Amazing race. No. Not the. The. In France.
Starting point is 01:09:22 What's it. What's it called? The Tour de France. The Tour de France. Yes. I love the Tour de The Tour de France. Yes. I love the Tour de France. Lance Armstrong. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:09:28 The other Lance. The other Lance. Wait a minute. Which one were we talking about? We were talking about Lance Bass from NSYNC. I conflated them. And you know why?
Starting point is 01:09:38 You know why? Because they're both blonde. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this actually lets you get away with Scott Frey because you got them confused I adore Lance Bass is he affiliated with the Bass Shoes
Starting point is 01:09:50 absolutely he must be and the bass guitar and the bass fish oh right he was part of the band he actually was interestingly enough the bass of NSYNC and his last name is Bass
Starting point is 01:10:04 that's irony that's irony no conflating Interestingly enough, the base of NSYNC and his last name is Bass. That's irony. That's irony. That's irony. There you go. No conflating. Words. Now, let's move on to our segment.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Yes. Our ending segment, I Don't Think So, Honey, which Nathan has come so prepared for. Yes, I'm prepared with my little post-it. We're not going to be able to get to all of them. I'm just going to read them off. I think you should read them off, and then whichever one you feel you connect with the most in this moment, that's what the one you'll do. Or you feel connected with. Sure, for sure. And we already got one out.
Starting point is 01:10:32 So my thing is, if you get in front of me, either on the road or walking, you have to go faster. Oh, yes. That drives me crazy. 100%. If you're listening to music on your headphones, you should be the only one hearing that music. 100%. That's a big one of mine. Especially on the subway.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So far, that's crazy. I'm guilty of being on the other side of that. I'll just leave this out there. Too much riffing. Okay. Too much riffing. I'm guilty of that, so. Yeah, too much riffing is not good.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Just not good. Not knowing what you want when you get to the counter. Oh. Thank you. Drives me bananas. Yes! There's the passion. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:08 We already went over both sides. Yes. And then I have one here that's really sort of minutiae. Okay. But it's explaining something that's obvious more than once.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Okay. It drives me insane. I know what you mean. I think I want to hear your I don't think so, honey, on too much riffing. I sort of want to hear it about the counter. Okay, it's a face-off.
Starting point is 01:11:29 I think the reason why I want to hear mine is because, and I think listeners will agree with me, it's more bitchy. No, you like it because it has to do with you. I like the counter one. This motherfucker. I like the counter one because it's a slice of life and everyone can relate to it. Oh, what? So we're going to hear another one about how someone who has a problem in a restaurant, tale as old as time.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Speaking of tale as old as time, you should never start that song off with riffing. So here's my- To start us, first of all, a riff or an oromante or anything. Oromante. You know, something like this, a grace note. They happen as a form of musical emotion. They have to come from somewhere. They have to be earned. So you can't really do a riff at the top of a fucking song unless it's so specific.
Starting point is 01:12:21 Yeah. You know, it's like, why are you riffing? Ms. Barbara, way we were. Yeah, why are you riffing? There you go. There's nothing to riff about. You know, it was like, why are you riffing? Ms. Barbara, way we were. Yeah. Why are you riffing? There you go. There's nothing to riff about. You know what?
Starting point is 01:12:28 I think, fine. I will concede and let Nathan do the one on riffing. I'm going to jump in there on that counter, though. We'll have a little bit of a counter. You know what? Yeah. You can do whatever you want with your time. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:12:39 It's rule number 63 of culture. You can do whatever you want with your time. You want to shake it up. You want to do 30, 30. You want to do 50, 50, 50, 50. You can do whatever you want with your time. You want to shake it up? You want to do 30, 30? You want to do 50, 50, 50, 50? You can do whatever you need. Well, you definitely don't riff when you get to the front of the counter. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You know what I'm saying? Not knowing what you want. That's literally me. Why don't you know what you want? Why don't you know what you want? I thought you were going to riff. I thought you were going to riff. Why don't you know what you want?
Starting point is 01:13:00 No. Now that I'm here. You're dead. You're dead. You're dead. Okay, so. Especially at the movie theater. Especially at the cinema. You mean to tell me you don't know what dead you're dead okay so especially at the movie theater especially at the cinema you mean to tell me
Starting point is 01:13:06 you don't know what movie you want to see you oh that's ridiculous time on the way to the theater to figure it out see what I had
Starting point is 01:13:13 to assume you were going to say was when they go up to the snacks concession stand and they don't know what they want that too
Starting point is 01:13:19 that too to go up to the box office and not know which flick. It's like, what is happening? I want them to spontaneously combust when that happens. Also, they're all so different at any given point in time.
Starting point is 01:13:32 You're never going to see X-Men and Spider-Man at the same thing. So if you can see X-Men or Rachel getting married, you choose. Choose. Choose. This is amazing. It's not Sophie's choice. It's not Sophie's choice. Because guess what, bitch? It's not dead
Starting point is 01:13:46 after the fact. You can go see it later. This is a communal I don't think so, honey, and I'm loving the spirit. So let's have Matt go or I can go first. I'll go first. So we'll do one minute each on our topics and then we'll throw it to Nathan. Will you put me on the clock?
Starting point is 01:14:01 So this is Matt Rogers. Wait, hold on. I said I had two, right? Yes. Oh my god. I know I have a bad memory nowadays. You want me on the clock? So this is Matt Rodgers. Wait, hold on. I said I had two, right? Yes. Oh my God. I know. I have a bad memory nowadays. You want me to go first? No, no, no. I'll go first.
Starting point is 01:14:11 I know which one I want to do. Okay, so this is Matt Rodgers. So you worked on the phrase, I don't think so, honey, as much as you can. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. This is Matt Rodgers' I don't think so, honey,
Starting point is 01:14:18 as time starts now. I don't think so, honey, when I watch an award show and it's as if there's only one movie or one song or one album that came out that whole motherfucking year. Bruno Mars and his little ass.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Let me tell you something. 24 Karat Magic, sure, when I first heard it, famously on a party boat, I did gag and I shook my kind of,
Starting point is 01:14:37 a little bit for a white boy, kind of big ass and I sort of enjoyed myself but if I had known, bitch, by the end of the year that it was going to take album record song performance
Starting point is 01:14:50 bitch I would say I would eat my hat because let me tell you something there's no way that it's the best written song and best performed song and best produced song in the whole year and also happens to be on the best album of the year no we need to spread the wealth bitch and I don't want to open up this oscars conversation and then see the shape of water
Starting point is 01:15:09 wins every motherfucking thing because i'll be very upset bodak yellow should have won something because it's the only song on the club that will have you winded at the end fuck these award shows then only give out to one thing that's one minute wow it's my best one and i've done in months oh my goodness inspired inspired and you know what's uninsp. Wow. It's my best one I've done in months. Oh my goodness. Inspired. Inspired. And you know what's uninspired? Award shows that only give awards to one thing. Thank you. That's true. That's true. Diversification.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Diversify it up. Also I want to say one more thing about the Grammys. How dare they? And I said months ago, I said if Ed Sheeran beats Miss Kelly, Miss Pink, Miss Gaga, and Miss Kesha for that pop vocal performance award, the gays, that's when we storm the castle. And what has happened, what has occurred?
Starting point is 01:15:56 A song that was bit a little bit, by the way, by, with the three girls, Left Eye and... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kandi Burris has a songwriting credit on it. Someone is coming against you. Yeah, no scrubs. No scrubs. I don't want no scrubs. You know what else I don't want?
Starting point is 01:16:10 No Ed Sheeran showing up on my television. There you go. Taking an award from all my girls. Dan's leaving. Bye, Dan. Bye, Dan. Just as we're talking about the dirty ginger. All right, so that's my...
Starting point is 01:16:23 I don't think so, honey. Also, kind of strange that we're awarding we're awarding a song that says i'm in love with the shape of you that objectifies a woman's body in this year the year of time's up shape of water there you go shape of water yeah you know what oh that is a sign it's gonna win fuck as mila once said right it's all right okay as mila said as mila once said fuck um use on the clock we're on the clock. It's all right. It's all right. Okay. As Mila said. As Mila once said. Fuck! You's on the clock. We're on the clock. Here we go, Bo and Yang.
Starting point is 01:16:48 All right. I just noticed that there's two iconic Milas, Jovovich and Kunis. Yes. And with that, Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey. Las Culturistas listeners who keep telling Matt and I to comment on Britney Spears' Instagram. It is not.
Starting point is 01:17:07 We have no onus to do this. It's too sad. It's too tragic. It's just as sad as Omarosa going on Celebrity Big Brother. Don't make us do this. It's, you know what? We love you so much. We will do anything for you.
Starting point is 01:17:20 But except for comment on Britney Spears' Instagram. Negatively. Negatively. Because we're not going to do that. I didn't even know she had an Instagram. She has an Instagram, and she's having fun. She's having fun. She's doing a lot.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I love that. We love it, but people are just telling us to be snarky about it, and we're like, no, that's not our job. We don't want to drag people down. We don't want to skewer people. We don't do that here. Very positive. You know what?
Starting point is 01:17:46 This is what it is. It's punching down. So I don't think so many people who'd want us to punch down because that's not what we do here, honey. A lot of culture is just we lift up, we punch up, we do things up, honey.
Starting point is 01:17:57 And it's up we go. That's one minute. Up and away. Up and away. It's up we go. And I have to say, I absolutely concur. If you think you're going to tune into this podcast and hear something mean about someone who, you know, has been through it and, you know, maybe can't speak for herself and defend herself, you're not going to hear it here, honey.
Starting point is 01:18:17 You're only going to hear snark about masked drag performers Zac Efron and the like because they are in control. They are. There you go. So, Nathan, we've arrived. Have you reached any clarity about what you want to speak on more? The riffing, the counter. I think...
Starting point is 01:18:35 I mean, we talked about what I really have a thing about already. Okay. But if I must go on... You must. I think we should just put the clock on and see what the fuck happens. That's what I think. Should we do that?
Starting point is 01:18:51 Well, listen. Here's the thing about it. He grabbed his beads. Here's the thing about it. There are a couple of things that get on my nerves. Okay. First of all, we'll just go down the list. The getting in front of me really does bug me because it's like, okay, I'm not walking fast enough.
Starting point is 01:19:06 I know. I don't think so, honey. I walk fast enough. I'm going to start the timer. Here we go. Go, go, go. I don't think so, honey. I walk fast enough.
Starting point is 01:19:14 But if you think you're going to get your little butt in front of me. Little butt. And then walk slower. No. What is that all about? No. Especially on these streets. On these New York City streets. No one's coming for me on these New York City streets. No. What is that all about? No. Especially on these streets, on these New York City streets.
Starting point is 01:19:26 No one's coming for me on these New York City streets. No. Along with my bag, which works as some sort of rudder. Yes. You know what I'm saying? And it keeps me going. It keeps me going. So I purposely walk just slow enough.
Starting point is 01:19:39 So they can't get around me. 30 seconds. So you know what, honey? I don't think so. I don't think so on the road either. I don't think so on the road either. I don't think so on the road either. You're going to get in front of me, and I'm already in the middle lane. I'm in the middle lane.
Starting point is 01:19:52 So if you really want to go that fast, get in the fast lane. Yeah. Get in the fast lane. I don't think so, honey. You're going to get in front of me. Get in front of me and go fast. Not slow. Don't slow it down. Oh, now I'm in front of him. Five seconds. That makes it sound like some sort of psychological thing. You want to get in front of me and go fast oh not slow don't slow it down oh now i'm front i'm in front
Starting point is 01:20:06 of him five seconds like some sort of psychological thing you want to get in front of me oh it ain't gonna happen oh i don't think so honey and that's one minute so and you know what masterful that's how that's this is the impact that will have no one will ever do that again no one will ever do that again to anyone at least say hello And guess what At least say hello Before you fuck me up Exactly And breaking my stride Yes
Starting point is 01:20:29 Nobody gonna break my stride Nobody gonna hold me down Oh no I got to keep on moving And they gotta keep Come on placement No riffing there No
Starting point is 01:20:41 Just a clear note And let me tell you something Here's the tea. My head is hot. Because we're having so much fun. We know that we have listeners. We have seen the diagnostics, I think is the word.
Starting point is 01:20:56 We know that you're in. The analytics. The analytics, sure. I don't know my words, but I do know my heart, my famous saying. I know we have people listening here in San Francisco. I know Los Angeles that you famous saying. I know we have people listening here in San Francisco. I know Los Angeles that you guys listen. I know we have some people in Orlando that are listening, and I know you're on the open road.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I know this is not a situation like New York City where you don't think this applies to you. Well, guess what, bitch? We're talking to everyone that gets behind the wheel of a car and tries it. Yes, don't try it. Don't try it. Especially if I'm in the middle of the lane. My thing is that, and you know what? If I'm going by the speed limit rules and you have an issue, an issue with that, take your ass to the fast lane.
Starting point is 01:21:37 Get out. Go to the fast lane. Get out like the movie. Get out directed by Jordan Peele. Starring Betty Gabriel. Starring Betty Gabriel Starring Betty Gabriel Who was robbed of an Oscar And here's my thing
Starting point is 01:21:47 Don't you understand satire? Some people who come to me and say I don't get it What's there not to get? That's another I don't think so Who the fuck didn't get that movie? It's like
Starting point is 01:21:57 It's a satire What's a satire? Well then read a book Read a book bitch It's not unsubtle Read a book bitch Read a book bitch Read a book bitch
Starting point is 01:22:04 It's actually a real number 48 of culture Read a book. Read a book, bitch. It's not unsubtle. Read a book, bitch. Read a book, bitch. Read a book, bitch. It's actually a real number 48 of culture. Read a book, bitch. Oh, Nathan gets it. Nathan, Nathan's joining us on these. This is a episode. An episode. This is a episode. Read a book, bitch.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Read a book, bitch. Read a book. This is so great. This is one of my favorites. All time favorites. All-time favorites. Oh, 100%. What do you think, HPJ? Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Absolutely. I've had a B-A-double-L. B-A-double-L. Read a book, bitch. You don't know what that means. He brought it to this wall. LA to Vegas. Oh, Tuesday nights at 9.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Tuesday evenings. Yes, honey, on Miss Fox. On Miss Fox. And then someone's like, oh my God, I don't know if I want to watch. I said it's not Fox News. Yeah, right. That's just two different things, boo. God, I don't know if I want to watch. I said it's not Fox News. Yeah, right. That's just two different things, boo. They thought they were supporting the evil conglomeration.
Starting point is 01:22:50 No, it's two different things. And Disney has bought us now anyway. Thank you, Disney. Thank you, Bob Iger. Thank you, Iger. Thank you. Our president. No, please, no.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Stay, stick in your lane. Did you just hear that they want to possibly buy the 5G? What? Like a network and the government to possibly buy the 5G? What? Like a network and the government wants to buy 5G network. What? And then have the phone companies rent from them. That just came out today. No, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I don't think so, honey. Because they think that China is going to spy on us through the 5G network. Oh, my God. And they want to control it and have the phone companies rent from them. I'm just saying. Wow. But you know what? China gonna spy and the big gag is you know it could happen oh my god i don't even want it this is this is this is getting this is getting real and bleak okay you dropped a bomb on me i think this episode on me baby this is gonna be where we finish the episode
Starting point is 01:23:45 You dropped a bomb on me Baby You dropped a bomb on me Oh we went out together Iconic drop Iconic drop And thank you everyone for listening
Starting point is 01:23:57 Yes And you're welcome for this episode you stupid bitch Thank you so much Nathan Lee Graham I've had such a pleasure You guys are wonderful
Starting point is 01:24:04 The pleasure is ours The pleasure is ours. The pleasure is ours. So much fun. I hope to come back and do a little guest spot. Oh, no. Anytime you want. Literally, you tell Dan to get in touch with us, and we will make it happen. There you go.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yes, usually around awards season. Oh, absolutely. We would be honored. So are you an Oscars aficionado? Yes. Yes, okay, cool. we would be honored so are you an Oscars you know aficionado yes yes okay cool that's HPJ just looked at me
Starting point is 01:24:28 with hate in his heart because because basically he emailed and said I think we should do an all Oscars episode I said bitch we already did that
Starting point is 01:24:36 and here we here we sit but also HPJ I wouldn't have changed a thing about this episode and this is all entirely like not shit the viewers
Starting point is 01:24:43 the listeners need to hear right exactly which is probably means we should wrap it up we'll wrap it up wrapping it up change of thing about this episode. And this is all entirely like not shit. The view, the listeners need to hear, which is probably means we should wrap it up. We'll wrap it up. Wrapping it up, wrapping it up. So with a W finishing the hat, wrapping up the app.
Starting point is 01:24:54 As Stephen Sondheim once said, wrapping up the app, wrapping up the app, tying in a bow, making it just so wrapping up the app. Tying in a bow. Making it just so. Wrapping up the app. Bye. Bye. Bye. Forever
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