Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Dazzle Me" (w/ Hunter Harris)

Episode Date: July 8, 2020

Welcome to the post 200th episode era! Ghislaine has been arrested! Hamilton is up for public consumption! Fire Island has been geo-politically canceled! And now Hunter Harris joins Matt and Bowen to get into her work at Vulture, some insight into Quibi possibly being a food delivery service, the sham that is the Golden Globes, a movie's need to be quotable (Aaron Sorkin!!!), Timothee Chalamet vs Lucas Hedges, and the legendary film Erin Brockovich being the culture to bring culture into Hunter's world. Plus a very serious debate about if Matt and Ben should be giving us a follow up to Good Will Hunting. Also how A Star Is Born and Jackie are just so so good. And some I Don't Think So Honey's you must hear! So much more is discussed so hop to it! Go follow Hunter's extensive skin care routine and feel the glow. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Oh, my goodness. Las Culturistas.

Ding dong, Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And I don't know. I miss you being in my physical space. I know. But I think this is better when we have a guest. It's better that the three of us are all in separate spaces so that there's no, you know, we're not doing. I understand how it works.

Okay. I don't need you to sort of explain to me and micromanage my understanding of things. I'm not doing that. I just miss you, okay? And can we just be emotional for once? Yes! You know what? We're only ever vulnerable when it's on Matt's terms, I feel.

You're so stupid. Shut up. Whenever I want to have a moment with my friend, the walls are up. That's actually interesting. It shields up. You know what I'm saying? But the roles switch from time to time.

From time to time. Although, I have to say, this is not the sort of note I wanted to start on. I wanted to start on a very celebratory note. What are we celebrating? The female parts in Hamilton. Okay. Okay. I skip the whole thing. i just go right to the girls you just go right like when i found out that disney plus was streaming hamilton i went right to um miss renee elise goldsberry well i watched philip asu do helpless yeah but i sort

of needed to check in on all my favorite numbers and i want to say, I don't think So Honey is tied to this, but I am very happy that Hamilton is on for the public consumption. We're going to get into the category fraud that might be at play at the Oscars because it's eligible for Oscars. It's not. You had told me that it was eligible for Oscars.

Well, okay. So this question was actually just answered for me. Let me find an answer to this. Okay. It was, it is not eligible at the Oscars. Yeah. Other awards are still possible. This is what Just Jared reports.

And this is Just Jared. This is Just Jared. So who knows? But it says the film version of the Broadway musical Hamilton will not be nominated for any awards at the 2021 Oscars because the film is not eligible okay but let's see here I don't know maybe Emmys maybe Emmys we're gonna figure this out if anybody works um in any of the academies let us know what the esoterica is around this because we'd love to find out more but really I was just I was just celebrating the performance of it all. They're wonderful performances. A lot of culture has happened in the last few days.

Few days, really. Ghislaine is under arrest. Ghislaine is arrested. Fire Island is basically canceled. Oh, gosh. Geopolitically canceled, I would say. You wouldn't be caught dead going there i think no more unfortunately um so we're having to mourn that as cisgender gay men who have class privilege to go on vacation

and then um gosh so much so much else right so you will not be going to fire island this summer i haven't ruled that out yet because i have stop i have i have i mean i'll just say it my friend julio is there and he's just staying in the house and he's so if you're gonna go down julio's gonna go down with you right now is what you're saying i'm saying if i were to go to fire island with my friend julio for another week that we rented this house before the pandemic hit then we're just gonna stay in the house and not go out which is kind of what you would just stay in the house sort of sequestered because you know what i'm not even about the the nightlife and the bars and the drinks and the kikiing and when it when it's normal circumstances you just have to go to the damn beach i just know i just

want to sit by the pool and read and i know that sounds so like i don't know it sounds so rom-commy and stupid but that's truly what i like the most about those traps like you think you think that you represent a boring character in the rom-com that is the one who sits by the by the pool and simply reads simply reads it's it's it's a trope that i am okay with with embodying you know what i'm saying well you know what happens to that character most of the time in rom-coms when they come in and they're very much the person who reads by the pool what they usually end up having the wildest journey they usually end up really sort of dating you know the wild child yeah what's there what's like the flaw what's like the inherent flaw in that character at the beginning of the movie in act one boring bitch boring bitch and then the opposite of that flaw is compelling bitch usually well something

will have to happen to you that makes you say you know what i'm actually going out yeah and it's like a so the everyone has to celebrate your choice to sort of like go out yes um the funny story is this actually is a plot line of a film oh you are gonna play in the future oh yes that's true well we'll see we'll we'll see okay so so new york magazine just came out with i with it with its tv issue i would say so there's there's the mckayla uh mckayla cole profile from i mean alex john alex phenomenal i cried at the end um there's the quibi piece um and uh and there's a lot of just good tv journalism going on right now because it's emmy season who cares um our guests a lot of people care a lot of people care i'm sorry i shouldn't i shouldn't be and we have an emmy contender here in the chat we have an emmy

contender we actually have we actually have two emmy contenders here in the chat i forgot i was also eligible you're also eligible we have supporting actor in a comedy uh contender bowen yang here today in the chat yes and bowen yang is eligible for emmy nominations this year as an actor yes and it is for his work on saturday night live and aquafina is nor from queens a short title a short title so and our second emmy contender is my co-host he is is eligible for outstanding game short short no i'm not eligible for that even though i make a real run for what are you what are you eligible for get this outstanding short form non-fiction or reality program for game show yes a tiny tiny tiny title, tiny, tiny title for a category. Tiny title for a category,

but not tiny title of the work. No, let me say, size does not matter when it comes to how good a television program can be. Absolutely not. That's why we have James Corden carpool karaoke win every year. I mean, that's art.

And that deserves the Emmys. And that's a long title. I am so excited that our guest is here. We've wanted to have her on for so long. We booked her pre pandemic even. Yeah. And I want to find out what she thinks of, of the Emmy chances of us.

Well, I just want her. I really trust her. I feel like she's this preeminent. She's this preeminent Twitter voice. I mean, we're constantly scrolling. When you and I are together, Matt, we're constantly scrolling through her,

through the day of Bieber. We have been known to go right to the page and just go, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, Hunter, Hunter. We go, ha, ha, ha. Oh, Billions not nominated, logging off. Logging off. A photo of Phaedra Parks.

You know, we laugh and laugh. She is, her writing is so phenomenal. She just wrote some, she just wrote an amazing short profile on Haim. And she wrote this piece on James Cameron's upcoming movies. I was just mentioning that I was thick into the article she just wrote, which is, you know,

all about James Cameron's announcements of Avatar sequels. It's not about James Cameron's Avatar sequels. It's the announcement. It's rather about the announcements of new dates and new information about Avatar sequels,

which has been really a cinematic narrative on its own. Amazing. And we thank her for that writing. We also thank her for the writing. The article she resurfaces every July 4th about Jackie.

And it inspired me to watch Jackie the other night. And I forgot how wonderful of a movie it is. Well, one thing I love about our guest is she doesn't let things go. No. Just like us. And so she has not let Star is Born go. She's not let Jackie go. We have not let Star is Born go.

I mean, she doesn't let things go. And I identify with that as someone who just on our last episode i think you and i both share this we talked a lot about a star is born including why does she do that do that do that do that do that to me yes yes i feel like she is also the sort of also the preeminent voice on a star is born so we're so excited to have her she's a she's a writer at vulture um and uh famed skincare routine that we all are still talking about glowing to this day glowing glowing in the chat positively glowing on zoom glowing on zoom early front runner for title of ep glowing on zoom okay and we're blasting out her ears she just took her airpods out Okay, unmute. Go ahead and unmute. So everyone, please welcome into your ears,

Hunter Harris! Okay, hi. I am panicking. I've gone through two sets of headphones through the course of this. Don't panic. It should be okay. The first thing I want to say is don't panic.

I want you to just breathe. All right. So we are back and something revolutionary has happened. We had to stop and figure it out, but we did. We did. We did. Hunter,

talk to us about where your head's at and with, with, with the Emmy race right now. What are your feelings? What are your predictions, thoughts, feelings, and plots?

Okay. race right now what are your feelings what are your predictions thoughts feelings and plots okay so my only real thought about the emmys is the way that imdb will prioritize a golden globe nomination or win over an emmy nomination or win um that just makes no sense to me considering who actually votes for the golden globes sure um but otherwise i feel as you know i'm just along for the ride listen yes i'm along for the ride too and i feel that isn't it funny that there was ever a time where we thought the golden globes were like of prestige like i remember being little and like watching and being like well the golden globes are like one of the biggest ever like you and then you really find out that it's like 85 foreign journalists right truly like you can count on one hand the people who vote for the golden globes and also they all like do you remember i think it was last year um when a golden globe voter profiled drew bar Barrymore for some like very small, very random magazine. And all of the quotes were fabricated.

That is a true story. What? Oh, my God. I promise you. This was I think it was either last year or the year before. But like so many of the quotes like didn't make sense and yeah it came out somehow that she that the reporter who wrote this who is a golden globes voter again to say um she like took quotes from that she like overheard or something from like a junket somewhere

i don't know just and sort of pretended there was a piece to write and they're still in the hollywood foreign press association they're still in the Hollywood Foreign Press Association? They're still a voter. I think you could truly just have a pile of bodies and still be in the Hollywood Foreign Press. Yes. Wow, wow. But no, so all I'll say, when it comes to the Emmys, I, you know, I'm just as curious as the next gal.

Sure. Okay, can I ask a dumb question? In what way is IMDb prioritizing Golden Globes wins over Emmys wins? It's like... In the star meter? No, not in the star meter. It's like when you're on someone's actual profile, there's that little yellow box that says nominated for two Oscars

or two wins, something like that. One Golden Globe. Right. But the Emmys, you truly have to click on it and go to like the full awards page to see any emmy nominations or wins which i think is a hilarious metric okay there's foul play there's foul play and speaking of long names of categories my favorite category ever is supporting actress in a made for television movie miniseries or limited series like just like the longest title for anything and then they fit like truly like laura jern's performance in there with

like someone who is in like a miniseries only you've seen on the bbc like it's just so funny and like also comedy and drama just like the the spectacle that is the placement of categories when it comes to the golden globes is something i love oh yes absolutely now hunter i've heard you talk in interviews about how as a journalist maybe you enjoy writing about film more than about tv or is that is that is that a fair assessment do you still feel that way now where you i do in some ways okay i just watch so many more movies and i have like a much clearer sense of like film history and not so much tv history so i do feel like i'm a little bit more in my depth

when it comes to movies totally um and that is primarily what i cover at vulture yes because you're not because you have you can be conclusive about what your assessment is over of a film more than you can a tv show where it's like, well, I wonder what will happen next season. Like, I don't know. TV is a little bit more boundless in that way, which is good. Right. And also, there's so many more hands in a TV show than, you know, one movie.

Totally. Totally. So you would say that when it comes to, and when we say film, what we mean is Avatar. And so when it comes to the film the the film industry's future what are we looking at here and can you shed light on just can't so we can sort of manage our expectations about the next time we'll see nateri yes um i think honestly we'll get an avatar movie every five years until i fucking die. Yeah. James Cameron will not stop. Um,

he, I think he's like locked himself into like a cryo chamber with, and like a horcrux has had their own cryo chambers. Yeah. So that, so that we'll just get them forever. Um, I remember one of my colleagues,

Kyle Buchanan, whenever James Cameron announced, um, that he was going to make all these avatar sequels it was like originally just one sequel and then it became like 25 kyle said like r.i.p james cameron will miss you making regular movies and not just avatar until the end of the world um but no it's funny i actually have not seen the entirety of the Avatar movie. Really?

You have not? I haven't. I just... It's long. It's long. I just couldn't get into it. I'm like... It's long and life is short.

No. Sam Worthington never came to fruition. No. Isn't it weird that he is the star of the biggest film of all time sam warvington he was in approximately one film and it was that i mean this was no no you are forgetting that he did at least one like christian movie yes i think it was the shack but I'm not sure. The Shack. Yes. Was Octavia Spencer in The Shack? I think she was. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But Octavia transcended that. Those movies always sort of sneak in. Yes. Right.

She had a career after that, and he didn't. Right. Octavia is checking every box she needs to right now. I feel like Ma is such a jackpot for her. Because now she's part of a modern camp classic, I feel. And now she gets to, like, go on and keep, like, getting nominated for these supporting actress roles that are, like, emotional labor roles. I don't know. Whatever.

Octavia, I mean, I hope she, like, gets nominated for, like, a meaty role that is not her, like, being someone's sidekick. But I feel like with Ma, she really, like, cashed that in quick and good and now she doesn't have to worry about that right i just love her cultural capital exactly the cache is the yeah what i what i was kind of floored came and went was her show truth be told on apple tv plus or whatever yeah which was basically murder she. Essentially, it was like, literally, it was Murder, She Wrote, but she had a podcast. And I literally thought, wasn't she supposed to redo Murder, She Wrote? Were they not rebooting Murder, She Wrote with her?

With Octavia. I thought they were. And then all of a sudden, I saw the show Truth Be Told. And I was like, what is this? Because I never heard about it at all. All I heard about from that whole entire endeavor was the morning show yeah and i was like what is this and when is it coming out and then i realized that it had come out four months prior and it was literally the trailer was murder she podcasted and i was like did this become this or i mean who

who can never know with with these like streaming launches anymore but can we talk about how there is there has not been like a successful streaming platform launch that i can think of besides net i mean like disney plus is a huge oh disney plus yeah okay because because but we're all doing these report cards on like hbo max you know uh uh what like And HBO Max, Apple TV+, and Quibi. It's like, say the word, Quibi. Quibi. Quick Bytes. Huge success.

And obviously, the report card is they didn't do great or they didn't impact as well as they wanted to. But I feel like besides Disney+, what has been, in recent memory, like the big streaming platform, like unveiling that's launched. That's been like gangbusters, you know, I think HBO Max has been successful because they do have a big backlog of movies that were like previously unavailable. It seems. But again,

I did watch only one HBO Max show and it was truly the worst thing I've ever subjected myself to. Which one was it? The Anna Kendrick show. Oh yeah life uh-huh yes yeah i i literally can't i can't even try unfortunately well i respect that um i just was wallowing and i had to do something but even even for you hunter like you can't you can't appreciate how ridiculous it is or is it not even that interesting? It's like too banal to be good. It was just too it was too crazy to be good to me.

It was like so out there. It was so like what was out there about it? I don't know much about it. OK, let me tell you. Every episode is a relationship in her life with a man. And I think like halfway through the season, it's a flashback to the Anna Kendrick character when she's 12 and she has a crush on a boy and he like sort of ghosts her

and they're at boarding school. And then she tells everyone she has cancer and to gain sympathy, obviously. And then she meets him at a bar like eight years later and they want to you know kiss and then she runs away I was like I can't do this anymore I'll tell you

what I cannot that doesn't sound good but for me I wouldn't even I wouldn't even get there because I don't know maybe I shouldn't be saying things like this like but I just can't. I cannot with Anna Kendrick. So many bad wigs also got us to that point.

It was too much. It was too much. I feel bad talking about Anna Kendrick because we have the same birthday and that's the first thing I think about. And you don't want to attack someone with the same birthday as you and that would be tough.

It's a holy day. It's a holy day. So what sign is that? Leo. We both have Whitney Houston's birthday holy day. It's a holy day. So what sign is that? Leo. We both have Whitney Houston's birthday, August 9th. Oh, wow. Okay, so yeah, we're not going to speak ill of the girl because clearly there's something there

that puts her in line with Hunter and Whitney, the two sort of one-name icons. Those are the two. Hunter, Whitney, and Whitney. Yeah, actually, it's rule of culture number 43. The two sort of one name icons are Hunter and Whitney let's let's quickly sidebar on this because I feel like we haven't really explored this yet celebrities you share birthdays with is there like an implicit like connection

empathy there like I feel this way about Ethan Hawke and Emma Stone and Seal even. These are the three people I share birthdays with and I'm like, don't come for them. Those are my people, you know what I'm saying? You, Ethan Hawke, and Emma Stone? And Seal. Isn't that great? That's such a mixed bag. I know. I mean, like three very different people

and I don't really find like I have that much in common with the three of them. But I feel connected to them. Matt, do you know who your birthday is? I actually that much in common with the three of them, but I feel connected to them. Matt, do you know who you're? I actually am literally a twin with the person that is, shares my birthday with. And do we know who this person is? Eva Mendes.

Me and Eva Mendes have the same birthday. Absolutely. You're the same people. We're incredibly similar. Yeah. We have very similar energies. Like it's actually, we kind of sort of bring the same vibe

you actually i'm not even joking this is true you guys know i know yes i'm not kidding and also i i i have to say the other young girl i shared a birthday with is someone who's it's almost like the industry has decided that she's famous or maybe rupaul's drag race has decided that she's famous but madison beer yeah I don't know about that. Young girl, Madison Beer. Gonna have to Google that one. Gonna have to Google that one. Well, let me say she's recently become famous

in the eyes of Drag Race because she's guest judged and she's been a quote-unquote celebrity contestant. I don't know who she is or what she does, but we do have the same birthday. And she's really stormed onto the scene apparently because list of famous birthdays march 5th she's first and then eva mendez is second okay that's disrespect it's it's insane disrespect and then i'm like that does not make sense is she like a

gen z thing and then maybe i'm maybe i'm no her agents know what seo is and then they just like figured it out they They called Google. Well, she's an American singer, says Wikipedia. Okay. Well, now, Hunter, this adds so much more depth to whenever you use a Whitney GIF, I would say. Oh, yes, of course. This is huge. I feel like you and Ira are the, I keep saying this word, but preeminent.

It applies, folks. Preeminent Whitney GIFif a deployer i would say and that's a huge honor and that's history and that's history and that ah that's history that is a moment most pleasing to me in my career what a moment wow i mean she really like that that meme has really stood the test of time in terms of like the past two years it's been a thing i don't see it going anywhere whitney really was a trove of good memes i mean second only to like tiffany pollard or really everything she did was funny well matt you and i saw brandy cinderella the other night it's on youtube um and she is just turning in a solid performance there and you're just like

what like but there's still like this very like meme friendly quality to it i think matt you're making a face well i would say this i would say is it as much of a performance as it is whitney houston coming in there and being whitney houston yes but that's really all you need but then she's when she says it's just like the way she lands the words i'm like she is so she's funny she's funny she is you get the sense that she was like such a funny fun person to be around and also when you watch like archival footage of her and brandy in the studio like brandy singing why are you down there and she goes why are you down there formative formative Formative to me. Formative to Hunter. But you get that it's like she's just trying to help Brandy,

but it's that sort of thing where it's just like yelling. Yes, yes, yes. Wow. I feel like Hunter is this very exciting purveyor of culture, and she's serving it up to all of us, and we're like, oh my God, yes, and she's the authority on this. So, let's just talk about why A Star is Born, why

Jackie, why your touchstones. Because I feel like you have a rotation going I think, Hunter. Would you say that's fair? I guess I do. I actually have a Jackie poster right here. Oh my god.

Very good. What Star is Born memorabilia do you have? Anything? Okay. Well, there is a photo on my refrigerator. Okay. And I have, I guess, just the record. Oh, the physical record?

You have like a... I took it from the national board of review awards honestly 10 out of 10 yeah yeah there's so many like photos in it and all the stuff um i was like the physical product but also the music yeah yes yeah um what else i have so i had like a makeup artist like like pre-coronavirus obviously and she was like looking around my apartment like do you work in movies and i was like yes i'm like looking at like a succession poster on the wall i have a i'm like i mean no um it was so embarrassing um but yeah i don't know i think i just like movies that are fun to talk about and also things that just like stick in my brain. And I don't know.

I just, maybe I can't let stuff go. No, you like this. I like what I like so specifically. I know, same. Trust me, I identify with this. And I think what you like and are is you like stunts. You like things that are easy pulls. Like I think like once Lady Gaga turned around and said, what?

And he said, just want to take another look at you. You probably felt like a sort of elation, right? Yes. Like, I think like once Lady Gaga turned around and said, what? And he said, just want to take another look at you. You probably felt like a sort of elation, right? Yes. Oh yes. Yes. Same ascend to a higher level of being.

Exactly. It's like drama. And to me, that's what makes movies good. And that's why I like, if it's a little campy or stupid, as long as it's memorable and it made you feel something like, give me movies like that. Nine times out of ten

i think absolutely yes yes i but i feel like hunter has the same ear for phonetics the way that matt and i think we do we're like matt and i like connected over the way people deliver lines but hunter wrote a whole vulture piece about the way peter peter stars guard says what did we accomplish in jackie and like that's like and it's only because of the way he delivers that line or the way he pronounces accomplish right like dig into that yes yes so in jackie it really does not make sense to me why peter stars guard is there yes um playing bobby kennedy because it just like does not he does not like match the energy natalie portman in this movie so it kind of feels like

an odd match um but he has this scene where he's like very distraught and he turns around and like with utter seriousness says oh what did we accomplish and it's like and that's like not even how it's said but like that's how i hear it in my brain it only matters how it travels yes through time it doesn't matter how it was said it matters how it travels through time and space yes it's just like so just wrong yeah and i can't get enough of it i just i love the meeting of like this very serious very like oscar baity movie and i say that with love because i do love this movie yes and the way that he is like so obviously out of his depth but the

way that he's like still going for it yeah but the way that it just like stops your heartbeat it's so wrong i love it yes yes it's that one line that plays on a loop in your head yes yes that's what leads to the damn chain of pieces i'm actually reading yours on closer right now so can you what is the one line in closer that plays on a loop in your head oh my gosh there's so many in closer because i was active on tumblr and you know yeah and it was a horny movie it was a horny movie we can say the reason why closer really hits is because it's one of the horniest movies of all time. And because everyone in it is hot,

which is important. And Closer, it's like the classic line. Long is the most fun a girl can have without taking her clothes off. But it's better if you do. She's got a ton. And she makes the most out of literally almost everything she's given,

which is like, it's a very stagey, like written movie, but she does. Yeah. She does give you, I don't love you anymore. Goodbye.

And hello stranger. And there's just a lot going on and it's, it is camp and it is sort of like it it's again, it's it, they happen in the movie, but they travel through time and space. Even the way she says, my name is Alice

Ayers you're like whoa yes yeah yeah yeah Mike Nichols it's so weird that it's a Mike Nichols movie to me it's always been like it doesn't it doesn't fit into the Mike Nichols like like you know sort of like whatever it just doesn't

it doesn't feel like one of his things anyway that's just my stray observation everything every line sort of like whatever the it just doesn't it just it doesn't feel like one of his things anyway that's just my straight observation everything every line in that movie is like so it's so pithy it's like yeah the hottest person you know on their most clever day and it's like just give me like a slice of that oh the hottest person you know on their most clever day yeah i mean it's just definitely something people would say. Then we have in Social Network, you did a piece on Social Network, which is let's gut the frigging nerd,

which again, it's one of those things that jumps out. I just watched the Social Network the other night, and I was like, there is something about this movie, and it's like, I wouldn't call it a need to be quotable, but it's like, sometimes it's like when a movie is trying to be quotable, you have to say, oh, honey. You know what I mean? That's every Aaron Sorkin movie.

But this one works because the story is compelling, and I feel like it does speak to our generation, which is something I think that should be sort of noted. I guess it's hard to note when something is speaking for your generation and feels of the moment, in the moment. But it's like when you look back at the Oscars of that year and you see that the King's Speech

took Best Picture that year, it's like that movie could have been made any time, with anyone, by anyone. It felt like Sorkin writing about Facebook in that way at that time. Yes. Felt like a moment that we didn't appreciate. And so I'm willing to forgive its like little moments

where it's so impressed with itself. Because it should be. It like is impressive. It's good. Well, all the Armie Hammer and Max Minghella scenes I don't care for. And it must have been like that it was hard to shoot around Armie playing both parts.

Maybe. Both twins or whatever. And so like both of them feel robotic in this way but social it's so weird to watch it now and to like hear things like friend request or like or like remember like the scenes where they would come up with these like now like the relationship status part right and you're just like

oh yeah like someone had to come up with that and like probably felt excited I don't know that's it's I think it's a someone probably at vulture wrote about how it's like a more relevant watch now than it was when it came out yes alice in one more did um yes for our friday night movie club a couple weeks ago but i think it is i mean to matt's earlier point i think it is a movie and a script where the dialogue takes itself as seriously as the people saying it do. Does that make sense? I think Aaron Sorkin is perfectly matched

to write someone who is arrogant, obnoxious, and thinks everything they say is actually so quotable because they're writing their own history as they're living it. And that's, I think, why it's such a prescient movie

because that's how we live now is to be documented and recorded right i also think that he is a really i i really like his work because and this is a way i would sort of consider shonda rhimes too it's like they get dazzle you know what i mean like this is the movies and so we should be entertained by the way that people speak and act and react. And so I think that's sort of whenever anyone's like, do people talk like this? I'm like, people aren't in movies all the time. And so we can be, like, for example, that first scene, we talked a lot when we did our list. One of the most impactful moments in culture history, as we've said it is runy mara and the social network yes

and it's like you would if you were her in that movie you would walk away from that table five minutes into that conversation because it's so insane but i do love that the movie's like watch what a spectacular asshole he is i'm like we're gonna write it spectacularly so i'm into it oh let's take a quick break and then we'll come back and ask Kendra the question. Okay. It's time for the question. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that.

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Listen to Haunting starting on October 22nd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So now let's ask hunter harris the question i'm so excited and curious to know what the answer is hunter what is the culture that made you say culture is for me this is the formative culture that made you step into a cultural direction okay i feel like i i promise not pandering no but it's aaron brockovich oh my god honestly you know what's okay let me tell you go go speak you don't know how many times i watched aaron brockovich between ages like 12 and 15 it might have been at least i mean it was minimum twice a week um wow i broke the dvd i did have a portable dvd player that i watched it on um and i'm just telling you

i saw that movie and it was like okay here we go here we go yeah now what was it two questions what was it about it that hooked you so and another thing is what why was that movie so available didn't it feel like it was always on or like for some reason people our age that like didn't we're not the demographic for that but we have such a sort of vocabulary for it my theory is before hunter goes please answer those questions but my theory is that it is the quintessential based on a true story movie i think not not like maybe not it's not the most important or biggest one but like to me it feels like it's about what this one person did and i don't know like came from her circumstances to like do this thing and she's like and it's great cinema just

to walk to just watch julie roberts like curse and be that woman that's my like yes amorphous theory but hunter yes what like what is the appeal the perennial appeal to you i think i think it's a combination of everything you guys just said that it was always on tv it always felt that way for a certain amount of time and before it was even always on tv it was always on TV. It always felt that way for a certain amount of time. And before it was even always on TV, it was always like at my local blockbuster and I would just see it and not know what it was. And then I just, I mean, I love Julia Roberts. I think she's like,

even the performances of hers that I don't like, I love. Closer is like kind of one of them. But yeah, I just, closer is like kind of one of them um but yeah i just i think that it is like seeing an incredibly famous person in a new way and seeing them how you always kind of suspect or hope they acted in your life on screen i think that's part of it um and also just like is a steven soderbergh movie like it is just so watchful it has so much momentum and and she is like how everyone wants to be like you want to be like that like fun and crass and you want to have her boobs and you want to like have her legs and like even when I'm like I guess Aaron Eckhart is hot I don't know he's very hot in. Honestly, I completely forget he's even in it

until he appears on screen every single time. I'm like, is so the Julia show. And I think it really is a perfect storm because it's A, Julia Roberts, who was the biggest star in the world. B, you heard that she was getting incredible Oscar-worthy reviews. So there's that.

Then you see what it is, and she is super sexed up and she's cursing so there's like this edge that you're curious about that's like sort of when it goes hand in hand with everything else you're like how could this not be the moment and then when it like fulfills itself by being a box office success and getting the Oscars. It like cement its moment in history. And I have to say, I am ashamed and embarrassed that it did not make the list. Wow.

Yeah, absolutely agree. I mean, like it's, I feel like that is the, among the more quotable films of that period. Right. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Well, it just so happens. I think I look nice. And as long as i have one ass instead of two i'm gonna wear what i like thank you very much if that's all right that's okay with you okay with you you might want to look into those ties anyway never forget that's all you got lady two wrong feet and fucking ugly shoes dazzle me this is what i'm saying

you have to dazzle me what is the line where she's like, oh, fuck. It's like the other lawyer. Yes. And she's like, how did you get like 653 signatures? They're called boobs, Ed. And she's like, blowjobs. Blowjobs.

That's earlier in the movie. That's earlier. Okay, okay. That's when he says, what makes you think you can just walk in there and get what we need? I know what you're talking about. They're called boobs, Ed.

And then she said, I performed 634 sexual favors. I'm quite tired. Yes. Very good. Very good. And also, I mean, her, talk about dazzle me, the monologue that she delivers to Aaron Eckhart when he asked for her number.

Oh, yes. With all the numbers I just gave you, I'm guessing zero. You're going to call it. You know Shonda studied that specific monologue multiple times. It's like such a perfect match of type of dialogue and performer. She is, you can tell, and I love Julia, but you can tell whether it's explicit or implicit,

she can be, you know, she can get what she wants. Yes. She's Julia Roberts. She's Julia Roberts. And like, I have heard every now and then that like, you know, she can be sort of like, she gets what she wants. She is the biggest movie star in the world. And, you know, you don't get that, I think, by being necessarily the nicest person in

the room. But who needs the nicest person in the room? you don't get that, I think, by being necessarily the nicest person in the room. But who needs the nicest person in the room? I don't. I want someone who can do what she does in Erin Brockovich. And she can speak to me however she actually wants to. For the rest of my life. I saw that movie and it just like set my brain on fire. I was like, oh my God, this is Chinima.

Chinima. Also, we all know what pg and e is pg and e exactly i honestly especially now with coronavirus i'm like i'm gonna snitch to aaron brockovich every single day like this is not how things are supposed to be run yes we all have to be aaron brockovich in this time i just have to i think the most electric moment in the movie for me is where Ed fires her and she storms in and she goes, what was I supposed to do? Check in every two seconds?

Yes, it's called accountability. I'm not talking to you, bitch! It's, that scene is so perfect and that performance, oh my God, and rest in peace. Conchata Farrell

put some respect on her name. Conchata Farrell put some respect on Conchata's name because she was also iconic two and a half man fish. Yes. And Albert Finney, rest in peace,

rest in peace, Albert. Albert Finney, rest in peace. He's fantastic. And also, wait, we're forgetting about

the Miss Wichita monologue. Oh, with the flannel and the crown. Which I actually, I went to school for screenwriting. I went to school for screenwriting. I went to school for TV writing and I had like a minor in screenwriting. It's weird the way that NYU dramatic writing works. Like I studied all of it and I had a screenwriting teacher refer to this moment as a really good example of when you get sort of the underlying motivation

of a character. And she referred to moments in other screenplays as the Miss Wichita monologue moment. And that comes like in the middle of the movie. Yeah, we were watching some other movie and she was like, and this is Miss Wichita. And I was like, you rock. Incredible.

You got your money's worth. A hundred. I mean, I don't know about that one. There's a lot of money we gave to the institution. But yeah, no, that, what did she say? She says, are you going to be something? Are you going to be another thing? I have to survive because I'll tell you the truth.

I don't think I'm up to it. I think about that all the time like if milk goes bad it's like are you gonna be one more thing i'm telling you that's gonna be my next column because truly it's like it sticks in my brain yeah oh yeah you should write about that would it be like a like a one line that plays in a loop or would it be like a like a more holistic view of it because you need to like you love this movie it's clear i do love this movie um how would you want to approach it i don't know it might be a one-line thing or i just oh my god i love this movie it's just so good you know what's interesting to think about

when it comes to julia roberts i feel like because she was like the a-list actress when we were sort of growing up or we feel like she was always around yeah um 1990 was kind of her like big moment right like after mystic pretty woman and so she became like a huge star but when aaron brockovich came out she had only been famous for like 10 11 years and so it's really interesting to think like this is the time in an actress's career when they sort of coronate her. You know what I mean? I read one time that the mean age of a best actress winner is 29, which when you're younger doesn't seem crazy. But then when you hit 30, you're like, wow. The moment in an actress's career when they decide this is the moment we're rewarding her is like roughly 10 years in.

When they're 29, they win Best Actress. They have the moment. And then there's that period afterwards. So it's like two things with Julia. It's like understanding that that's where she was at that moment. We just thought she was like the A-list actress always was, always was going to be. But like the decisions that she's had to make since that moment in her career, when she was A, not only just the box office phenomenon of the 90s, but also she ended the 90s winning an Oscar.

And it's been 20 years since that happened. And she has still been able to sort of like be interesting. Like I think that her performance in homecoming is one of the better tv performances we've seen and talk about her in august dosage county and you know she's really decided to stick with developing as an actress and not like do box office box office box office or or be a behind the scenes person but it's interesting the way that these hands are dealt to young women i know because the industry is like figure it out now like we're not gonna help you as much it feels right but it's interesting to me to think about julia in the

past 20 years since i'm only now realizing that's how long it's been since aaron brockridge see that hurt when you said 20 years, doesn't it hurt? Just, you could have just rounded down. I could have just not said anything at all, but it's important to note. You could have said she got the statue in 2001.

Yeah. So it's only been 19 years. I could, I could have softened the blow a little bit, but I refuse it's Corona and I'm, I'm, I'm delivering hard blows. It has been two decades since Aaron Brockovich fever.

It feels just like yesterday the old the other thing i want to say about aaron brockovich is as a movie is that it shows like the real socal i think where it's like right i feel like you're seeing like what la is actually like and it's not this glamorized version of it but it's like the very grounded realist like steven soderbergh like here's here's like the way that like Magic Mike was like, this is kind of the real Vegas and kind of in all its gritty glory. Like you were seeing like Irvine and I don't know,

just like, or Inland Empire-y kind of California. Am I making any sense? Was Magic Mike in Vegas? The second one was. Oh no, no, no. Yes, yes. Nevermind. Tampa.

Cut that out. Famously Tampa. No, don't no, no. Yes. Yes. Never mind. Tampa. Cut that out. Famously Tampa. No, don't cut it out. I like when we see the real raw. Okay. I meant Tampa. Steven Soderbergh's Tampa. Well, now my point is completely.

Well, he has like that visual style that always makes it look like it's like 530. You know what I mean? It's like that filter on the camera that's like. It always looks 530 and hot. Yeah. Yes. It just p.m you're not sweating you're about to be yes yes you and you've been working all day in every shot it's like when she would get home like and those like horrible shots of like her going through her apartment like that was like the cockroaches running around i felt so anxious and tense for her when she gets hit by the car i mean that's at the end of a work day yeah that's the end of a work day the filter said

she's been working a bunch and also not for nothing but this is a part of the script that she really sells is when the cockroach runs across the drain yeah and she throws the plates and she goes who lives like this we're going out also when she's when she's trying to find a new job and she's just like looking at the newspaper and just certainly with her left hand i'm like you go left-handed yeah it's like doesn't even make sense but i just love that line yeah that asshole smashed in my fucking neck open and open and shut wait what when she goes um when she's calmly giving her testimony and she goes and he came around the corner like a bad out of hell and then and then the guy is like a surgeon yeah spends his days saving lives yeah and then he

said something about like oh you have two kids or you have three kids she's like yeah he's like oh are their father is a father helping out yeah yeah which one yeah no there's two what's your point like oh and also wow wait another iconic part of the movie we can't forget is iconic marg helgenberger performance cherry Cherry Jones performance. Cherry Jones. I'm going all over the place. Marg and Cherry both really deliver. I mean, when she tells Marg there's a problem with the water and then Marg runs out and she says, The kids! Girls!

Get out of the pool! Get out of the pool! Get out of the pool! Yeah. What an amazing film. I might have to watch that soon. I might have to watch that soon i might have to watch my boyfriend has never seen it okay neither has mine and he won't watch it with me why i think i'm actually gonna

make him watch it with me tonight bowen yeah you can come over yes he knows that if we watch together i'm just gonna quote every line yeah but i already did that with like half of the social network does your boyfriend love you yes then he should let you do you live together now we get personal hunter i have to say something so out of pocket and maybe inappropriate you have such a beautiful laugh and this is your blessing the ears of everybody who gets to hear your laugh now hunter okay i'm not going to toot my own horn, but yes. You have an excellent laugh. I love to laugh. Say it loud, laugh it proud.

That's actually the title of that. Say it loud, laugh it proud. Laugh it proud. Oh my god. So to think that Erin Brockovich, the film, is now 20 years old has shaken me to my core. But I would like to know um in the past year or so

because it's been like a pretty light year for movies like what have you said what has come out has anything this year been like to you notable are you kind of forcing yourself to watch television these days because the prestige has had to move to the small screen or or are you into quibi i feel like when you say quibi you have to like say it three times like quibi quibi quibi yeah you're not like cursed well yeah it's hard to say it's hard to just say it once um okay i don't know it's like it's been such a weird year because literally nothing has come out how are they gonna even do the oscars it's so weird i'm i mean they're i don't i think it's gonna be such a weird award season that it's like not even gonna actually end up happening um i mean the last movie i saw in theaters was never rarely sometimes always the eliza hitman um like abortion teenage like drama set in New York City

that I really loved and then before that I was like really hype off the Invisible Man the Elizabeth Lawson movie. Oh yes okay I don't watch horror but I heard it lit it up. It it's like been a minute since I was like what? You were scared?

I was scared but I was also just like so just floored by everything that happens i couldn't i couldn't i mean she could she could very well be nominated for an oscar for that if nothing else comes out for the rest of the year i mean we could be seeing that i think sure i mean maybe we'll get um tenant in you know a month where do you stand on the tenant discourse okay i feel like it is gross and unethical and immoral to try to release a blockbuster movie in the middle of a global pandemic that's just how i feel and i cannot imagine anything more irresponsible and i'm saying this as someone who wants to see the movie but also understands when what time we're living in um but ultimately i think it will be

as satisfying as every other christopher nolan movie and then some guy will try to explain it to me and i'll say you know it is what it is um and how satisfying are christopher nolan movies to you right as you exit pre-explanation of front by this asshole whoever that person may be how do you are you a fan i yes i generally am a fan i didn't like interstellar and i didn't like the prestige but i did like dunkirk enough and i liked inception enough and um oh insomnia i liked too the pacino one right i'm surprised you didn't like interstellar more though because they gave you a they gave you some dazzling some dazzling drag in that movie i feel like when like when anne hathaway tearful lisa explains that one of one theory she has is that love is the answer. Right. And the Ellen Burstyn scenes at the end are just so,

they really go there. Ellen Burstyn is in a hospital on like a ring-like planet or something. Yes. Yeah, it's beautiful. It is drag. It's drag. But you did not enjoy it as much as Dunkirk, which I hated.

I thought at least Dunkirk was like cool to look at. Okay. And also every guy in Dunkirk just like looked like someone I knew. So I was like, whatever. He's like the crooked teeth version of my friends, I guess. You know what?

I just remembered. Timothy Chalamet is an interstellar. Oh yeah. Doesn't he play the son? He's one of the kids. Oh God. It's so crazy to think that Timothy Chalamet was just recently a working actor who you could see in such series as Homeland

and bit parts in Interstellar and now he's like the moment. The moment. Where do you stand on the Timothee Chalamet versus Lucas Hedges of it all? Oh, my God. I bet you have takes. I...

Hmm. She's a tough question lucas hasn't been in anything he's been in enough to compare them okay all right the last thing lucas stays out of the conversation though you know what i'm saying he does he keeps to himself yeah well he's not he's not a capital s star i mean this is our star and actress debate timothy chalamet is a star and lucas hedges is an actor yeah actress yeah i think that's true i i think lucas could be a star he just chooses like not to be he does have big working actor energy he is so good that i think he takes away from his own startup because he's so sunk into the walls of the products like for example i just watched ladybird again the other night and this scene with lucas hedges like when he's auditioning with giants in the sky

it's like you just you take for granted that he just feels like a kid doing it and it's this it's this genius performance of like that i think he pulls off even better than sersha which is like kid sort of trying his best to do this but still thinking about the fact that he's auditioning it just feels so authentic and then his coming out scene to sersha it it hurts my chest how good he is in it it's just so good and timmy when he comes into the movie he's just like this swagger is just dripping off of him and you get immediately why she would like fuck this kid but i think it's also because we're seeing these people through her eyes and when she's talking to lucas she's like, he's sensitive. I love him.

We have, we've like named a star together. Yeah. And then when she sees Timmy, she's like, oh, he's like hot. We need to get this together. And really doesn't have time for me. And it's like that sort of negging that he does. Oh man, he's so good at it too. He's so good.

Unforch. Unforch. Why do we say do we say on forge well because it's like he because i want i because i get why you said it but let's just examine as a trio like what what how do you solve a problem like timothy it's not even a it's not a problem it's not a problem it's not a problem but i don't think it's good to be star so quickly yeah right yes thank you it's for his own well-being right i think i like the progression of lucas hedges where it's like not made for an oscar early in his career is super talented but also like isn't like on the cover of yes i mean it's on the cover magazines in the same way that like timmy is right you know the

fashion of it all is where it sorts the like the sort of groundbreaking fashion presence that is timothy chalamet i'm not really ready for but i also understand that i better get ready for it because i have understood now that he will be around for the next yes i'm gonna say 40 i think she's here to stay lucas can pull off the high fashion when he wants to, like the GQ cover. Right. Like those looks were amazing. I feel like it's very much,

just to like totally reduce this down to something terrible. It's very much a Jackie Marilyn dichotomy. We're working on that. Interesting. I was gonna say like Leo and Matt oh matt oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yes yes that no that's absolutely better yes yes yes yes although did matt really compete with leo for like the hearts of america i mean i don't think so in the same way but i think goodwill hunting

definitely engendered this kind of like goodwill towards yes just like wanting to see matt damon just win right very that and matt was coming in as like a student i was like someone who like wrote this exactly yeah yeah i think that's part of it too academic fish academic fish we of course have have not seen matt damon write another thing i think that's okay i don't really because they have an academy award yeah which does not we need the follow-up and also it's like but i don't know the fact that matt damon has rarely ever been on that's behind the camera or like writing anything since yeah like to me is like well did we sort of make it look like these boys really slated at their young age then in 1997 just

to kind of make them stars of course maybe that was part of it yeah okay or we could say what no one wants to say and it's that ben is the talent i think there could be something to that there is because unfortunately ben does have some talent when he wants to uh employ that or when he wants to do a paparazzi walk with anna de armas which is also cinema also cinema pretty much he is i mean benath like he does give it to you um in terms of stardom we definitely have moments one of my favorite moments in any of his performances is him as batman when he goes to serve gal gadot a drink and pours a quadruple into a glass with just like it's the most lived in thing i've ever seen and you sort of see in her eyes when he's pouring the drink she's like uh-huh okay we're going for it and i

it doesn't feel directed to me it just feels like something that just happened wow he did not win for directing did he hit an oscar no no he wasn't even nominated for right it was a controversy the hollywood foreign press gave me award and the oscar said not yet wow and that's how you know i mean that hurts that hurts they don't have it together when it comes to the directing nominations i mean it's been said a million times about how many times they've passed over women but i mean the fact that and he's getting re-canceled it seems because because one owner writer said something i guess but um the fact that mel gibson was recently nominated for best director like for hacksaw ridge in 2015 i believe it was and yeah or was it 2017 really it was more recent than yeah it might have been it was 2017 yeah i think it was 2017 Or was it 2017? Really recent. It was more recent than, yeah. I think it was 2017.

Yeah, I think it was 2017. I'm just looking it up. The fact that we allowed that one, it's just like, wow. And that not being the number one controversy of that moment is insane. The fact that they had it so- But he was still on round tables.

He was still campaigning. It it's like that was so recent i mean it it blows my mind people conveniently seem to forget when powerful rich white men do these sorts of things and like yes people are vocally upset about it and like there's a conversation about it, but they do not seem to face repercussions because no matter what, if you're nominated for best director, which is the highest award for leadership in our industry. Then you have not faced consequences for that. Like maybe he's not acting as much anymore. That's not really a consequence for what he has done and seems to continue to do like because he's still reaping huge benefits in other areas yes yes this was 2017 hunter can we yes it was 2017 wow berserk crazy crazy um okay uh i feel like we need i need to hear it from hunter's ears

and i and i kind of tried to from hunter's ears we need to hear it from Hunter's ears. And I kind of tried to. From Hunter's ears, we need to hear it. I'm sorry, from Hunter's mouth to my ears. I know, I know, I know I sort of asked this in some form earlier, but like why A Star is Born? Why this A Star is Born? What do you, what is it about the characters? I mean, Jackson Maine feels like a fixture

in the Hunter Harris Twitter narrative. I really just want to hear you sort of extemporaneously talk about A Star Is Born to me and what's so perfect about it. Well, okay. I think it is... I honestly just like being surprised by things. And I was,

I did not expect to like a star is born. I did not. I think I'd seen only the Judy Garland version before. And I was like, okay. I'd like heard all this drama behind the scenes. I was like, I don't care about Bradley Cooper.

I'm like, I mean, telephone is the most important song to ever have been recorded but I'm like not a huge like little monster yeah right and then I just walk into this movie five minutes in I'm like oh this is not gonna go well for me um it was so good I was like I was

just so won over by how big it is how loud it is how earnest it is which is like not a word I even like to leave my lips wow um but I was is which is like not a word i even like to leave my lips wow um but i was like this is like a movie yeah like we're watching a real movie that is like so carefully and intricately put together um and like the music was really good and and then it's just like you know talking about a movie is to me the best part of it yeah

i could walk out of that movie and truly just there's so many theories about like are they sleeping together do they actually hate each other do they go to the same colorist is arena shake about to leave bradley cooper right like all of these things and then it's like they do the oscar performance and you're like, this is truly the most intimate thing that I've ever seen. So definitively, what is your opinion on what happened with their relationship throughout the process that was a star sport? And where are they now? I think I think maybe they were

kissing. Yeah, they were kissing. Yeah. They were kissing. But then I think it was just, you know, intensity, passion in the moment. I mean, the fact that Dave Chappelle

is in this movie is like also crazy. Right. There's a lot that's insane about the movie coming together. The fact that Lunel is like one of my favorite comedians in this movie.

Like, thank God. Thank God. Anthony Aramos plays the gay man. that lunel is like one of my favorite movies in this movie like thank thank god god um anthony ramos okay anthony ramos plays the friend that for some reason was listening to yonkers by tyler the creator just fully into the year 2018 yonkers was in the movie? Yes. It's what, it's what plays when Lady Gaga goes to his room, knocks on the door, says,

what do I do? He's drunk. We can't have sex. And it's like, who was listening to Yonkers? Okay. Got it. Got it.

Got it. That's a mystery that I still want to solve. Maybe that was Anthony bringing that in. Sure. Did I misinterpret? I feel like Anthony's

character was gay. He was gay. I don't think he was gay. Really? Got it. Got it. Got it. I feel like he was a gay. See, this gay. I don't think he was gay. Really? Got it, got it, got it. I think he was a gay. See, this is what I'm talking about. And this is the discourse.

Name one other movie that we could have this debate about. No. Fully years later. Honestly, yeah. And the conversation will continue because it's my favorite thing about movie changes. It's so much fun to talk about. It's so much fun to talk about.

I mean, I can remember tweets, Hunter's tweets. She goes, Jackson Maine at the Grammys. And then it's so much fun to talk about i mean i can i can remember tweets hunter's tweets she goes jackson main at the grammys um and then it's the gif it's the video of the person in their car going this is so humiliating i mean you can have so much fun with this movie yeah and also her turning around to say what he could say anything it is meme it arrived at the right point for meme culture trailer was so good the trailer was one of the best of all time and also not for nothing but for the trailer to not only like promise something amazing but then the film delivered on that moment that that moment that ah is forever film history still still yeah yeah wow and her performance is fucking great she's great she's great c97 is that is that the right number? C-98. C-98, as we've said before,

I mean, fully improvised. Unhinged. Unhinged scene. Unhinged dialogue. It could not have possibly been written. That's my theory. But what are your thoughts, Hunter, on the way that the movie ends?

Yes. Like in terms of the I'll never love again of it all, do you agree that the movie sort of lost its way in the second half? Or does it not matter to you? No, no, it definitely does lose its direction,

but it almost makes me love it more because of its flaws, because it was so close to being so perfect. I think that I'll Never Love Again is like, you know, not to bring it back, but it is just a fake Whitney Houston song. Yes, it is just a fake whitney houston song yes it is and yeah it's like that part just seems like a little bit too like hollywood to me the movie had its own

iconography until it was trying to be other things for some weird reason to the lurch yeah like shallow was so its own visual and like it had own visual identity until she gets, and maybe this is a comment, I doubt it, but until she gets just like usurped by Hollywood and gets that new manager, then it feels like from that point on, not only does she feel like not the character we've known, but the movie doesn't feel like the movie we've been watching. And if you were really going to give him the benefit of the doubt, you would say this is a comment on how things lose their voice and become sort of amorphous after a while when you allow money to suck away. Fame distorts you. Right. There's that, but also I just think it just maybe wasn't

a very good second half of the movie. No, after the alley billboard, it kind of loses the sense of itself it couldn't heighten that is the inflection point because i i don't know matt were you in the theater with me but i remember seeing that and just gasping i was just like oh my god like this movie is off the rails now like this billboard is ridiculous well the billboard i think was the last acceptable thing in the movie yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then exactly because it was just like this moment it's like we understand she is now like joke famous

like it's like it's like we get it and that's because that's when you knew that she did not have a last name right oh she does have a last name well she does main or no no what her maiden name no no um okay one of my sources sent me an Academy screening Q&A where Bradley Cooper says her last name

is Campana, which is one letter different than his mom's name. It's just the fact that it's Campana is like so on the nose. Can you believe Allie Campana had that been her name? They had to take it away from gaga she would not have been able to stop i think that what the problem for me with the billboard is that the billboard plus the hair yeah the manager plus that scene where jackson main says if you don't dig deep into your fucking soul yep It's like, it's just, it's all so on the nose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We get it.

Right. We're supposed to think that she's this, this, and this. Right, right. It's too personal. Also, the movie, I think, very stupidly does have the attitude that pop music is dumb. Right. Which we hate. It's not the tone I think they should have struck.

Right. But Hunter, what are you going to say? I was going to say that in interviews, Bradley Cooper defended the pop songs and Lady Gaga didn't. And that Diane Warren defended the songwriting. That is really fascinating. I mean... Yes.

And yes, you're right, Matt. Gaga, if her name had been Ali Kampana, if the last name was figured into the final movie, Gaga on every single press stop would have been like she's Italian it's actually it's actually Bradley's mother's name we changed it one letter I mean you almost wish

that it had been so that we could hear her talk about like how she identified even more because it was an Italian last name and it was actually Bradley's mother so that was special um but ultimately that's the weird thing about the movie that i think they got really wrong is like the reason that lady gaga is such a force and like the reason she hit so hard and the stage so hard is because she made fun music that was like from her spirit made people dance and like that it seems weird that she would be the one to be like and then she sells out because we know that's not making pop music

isn't selling out and he was so clearly what's what was wrong about that situation like he was not right in trying to continue to micromanage her and like maybe she didn't get involved with the right people right but it i don't know like i said act two completely just i think it just made the wrong choices that's all and ultimately we have to look forward to the sequel we have to look forward to the sequel the three of us love it so much it's one of our favorite movies i think it's the only movie recreation like in terms of the original ones, they don't have a sequel. I do want to see what Allie Mayne does from here.

Yeah. When she walked off stage. Though I want a sophomore album for sure. Oh yeah. Who do we think, who do we think the co-star is? Ryan Reynolds. I think that would be beautiful.

I don't know why I said that. That's just the first word that I thought of. I love that your reaction to Ryan Reynolds was just an oof. Oof. What about, I don't know. I'll have to think about it. Yeah, honestly, and we put it to the readers, who would you like to see star in the sequel to A Star is Born

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i can speak to something that's in the new cycle okay that's perfect so feeling good i love when everyone's talking about this i love when you go topical and if and i can't wait to hear your take on this this is matt rogers's i't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. People who talk about Hamilton like it's Starbucks. Hamilton is not fucking Starbucks, you freaks. Hamilton is not McDonald's. Hamilton is not this commercial bullshit.

We get it. You're a democratic socialist. You hate money. That does not mean you need to fucking rail on Hamilton like it's fucking mass media hamilton was created from the souls of artists of color and every time you get on there and you say fuck this and you say hamilton what you're saying is you haven't seen it because had you seen it you'd be shouting in the streets you'd be campaigning out there for renee elise goldsberry

to win i don't care what she's eligible for whatever it is you would be basking in lamar odom jr you would be respecting lin-manuel miranda because yes he may be a quote-unquote irritating presence to you but he is also a genius and hamilton is not something that you can talk about in terms of like, oh, it's eating up the media narrative. It is a work of art. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute.

Thank you. And did you feel this is happening? A little bit. And there's this weird phenomenon where people are taking cover behind Toni Morrison hating it to be like,

wokely be like, oh, so see, like it sucks. Like, I don't know. It could, both things could coexist where like, yeah, Toni Morrison hated it for whatever reasons she hated it. But also like, it sucks. Like, I don't know. It could, both things could coexist where like, yeah, Toni Morrison hated it for whatever reasons she hated it.

But also like, it could be like a good musical written by. You would never leave the theater after seeing Hamilton and say, fuck that, I didn't like that. Because it's literally blood, sweat, and tears, and emotions, and performed so beautifully and so painstakingly. And it's so obviously like looking at the way you can, um, perform theater and trying to find new ways and innovations on that idea.

So that for you to say like, fuck that, I didn't like that or act like it's something negative for the world. That's so annoying to me. And people talking about it like it's McDonald'sdonald's is so crazy like it's this thing to be consumed and not just like an artistic achievement and i guess it's ultimately like says something about its artistic achievement that it's gotten to that point but this isn't like some it's not garbage and so if you're out there thinking it's garbage like you should watch it

and you can watch it on Disney plus now. So, but anyway, yes, not that I'm promoting it. It doesn't need my promotion. Like, and maybe it's like uncool for me to say, stop attacking this extremely popular thing.

But the people that are like eating up the space on Twitter saying how Hamilton is uncool. It's like, that is one of the least cool things you could say. I think. Yeah. Everyone's just having a good time reliving it. That's just been what's nice about it.

For people who have seen it, it's been nice to just relive it and be like, oh, yeah, I didn't get to see it with Philippa, and she's doing great. Maybe I have an emotional attachment to it, because when I saw it, it was two days after Pulse. Oh. And I remember thinking, it was like I had never felt that bad. Like after the Pulse shooting, I was like so devastated. And there is like a lot in it about gun violence, obviously.

And so like there was these segments of the show that I thought carried a little bit more weight because of what had just happened. And I was so emotionally raw. And it is such an emotional show. So it's not like, but then again again I don't feel like I'm out here defending it because I have an emotional attachment to it I just think it's ridiculous to consider something that obviously came from like some like

a love of something with any other commercial bullshit that's like taking away from people who endeavor to see it or like buy into watching it. You know what I mean? For sure. For sure. Hunter, what is your opinion on Hamilton? I have no opinion.

I've never seen it. You're like, I don't give a fuck. I'm along for the ride. No, I was going to watch it probably this week. Actually. Okay.

You'll like it. You'll like, do you like theater? Yeah. Okay. That's fine. And I actually respect that. We actually respect that.

So listen, Bo and Yang. We'll find out if I respect you after you're out on Think So Honey. Okay. Yeah. This is going to be an extemporaneous one as it usually is. Extemporaneous. Can't wait for extemporaneous Bo and Yang. And his I Don't Think So Honey starts now.

I Don't Think So Honey calling me kiddo in any sort of flirtatious capacity. extemporaneous can't wait for extemporaneous mo and yang and his i don't think so honey starts now i don't think so honey calling me kiddo in any sort of flirtatious capacity it's i feel like it's i don't know i mean i'm not used i'm not over here using daddy that often either like i'm not acknowledging any generational gap in my sexual parlance with people so kiddo feels like the opposite of daddy but it's sort of offensive for the same reasons it's not offensive but i'm saying it offends me for the same reasons calling me kiddo i think it just kills the sex for me i'm like okay so you are gonna infantilize me in this way that feels a little troubling and i don't really want that as part of our dynamic and you calling me kiddo i don't know do you it feels like you're in it feels like you want to be like you know

what's his face like lenny kravitz and hunger games or something does he say that i feel like he does i mean he might not actually say call jennifer lawrence kiddo in the movie or in the books but i feel like he would and that just makes me feel uneasy um i love lenny kravitz and hunger games and he's very sexy but just for for someone I met off you know Tinder to call me kiddo I don't want it I don't think so honey of course Lenny Kravitz was never more sexier than when he was in the Hunger Games yes absolutely

yeah I hadn't thought of that before Bowen that is assuming a lot and like I for some reason I don't mind it when someone calls me the handful of times someone has even facetiously called me daddy. I'm like, Oh,

haha, that's funny. And like, hopefully I won't have an issue with it when I, as I get older, but, or as I hope to be called it as I get older, but to be called kiddo now at my age,

I just, I don't, I don't enjoy it. I don't, it sounds patronizing. Yes, yes, absolutely.

Exactly right. I feel that what they're saying is like, hey, in my initial interaction with you, I'm letting you know that I'm the authority figure in this relationship. Which is not a conversation we've had prior. No. We have not laid out the terms of this exactly.

Hunter, I think it's time for Hunter's I Don't Think So, Honey. Oh my goodness. I feel a stirring. I feel a quickening. laid out the terms of this exactly hunter i think it's time for hunters i don't think so honey okay oh and goodness i feel a stirring i feel a quickening okay this is hunter harris's i don't think so honey her time starts now okay my i don't think so honey is about mr joseph gordon i don't think so honey i'm not i will not allow the jose Joseph Gordon-Levitt industrial complex to rise again. Oh, my God. Here's the thing. I don't think so, honey, because the most lonely I felt is when all of my friends had a crush on him after 500 Days of Summer.

And I knew that was a bad movie. Yes. And I knew he was a bad boyfriend. Terrible movie. And I knew better. Yes. But I was shy. So I just went along with it.

30 seconds. But I'm tired of it i don't think he is a very charismatic actor i did not like when he hosted snl and make him laugh i thought that was very upsetting i have not forgotten it still haunts me to this day and 15 i don't think so honey he's trying to have um he's trying to resuscitate his career hit record joe i don't think so. Oh my God. And that is one minute. What?

I don't even know what hit record Joe is. I have to come out of saying this. Is it a production company? It's not exactly a production company. It is his, I think at one point was a platform where you could like upload videos similar to, you know, whatever like vine i see

yeah tick tock something but it was like it created all of that um and then at some point i think he took the material to like make it into his own thing but now his his twitter handle is still hit record joe and he still has these like automated tweets soliciting like you know advice reactions whatever and it's just all so incredibly internet in 2011 that yeah i just cannot yeah he really had a moment of sort of a gradual chalamet where he really became the one for a little bit but it didn't feel like it came out of nowhere he had like earned it he had been on third rock from the sun he had like done all these indie movies remember brick like he had like done all this cool stuff and then had that moment with

500 days of summer and i think what happened was he just started he thought of himself as an auteur a little early i think he branched out into two. He fully tapped out, I feel. Because in Dark Knight Rises, it was fully set up that there would be another franchise for him. For that character. I completely forgot. He was in that. Yeah.

He was like a Christopher Nolan favorite. Remember that. Yes. And for some reason, I don't remember him in those movies. But I do remember him vividly in don john like don john to me don john was already on the decline see i love don john is that insane i loved luper i've never seen it oh it's worth it i i feel like it would hit with you because scarlett johansson is giving you a certain amount of drag in that movie too i was talking to i was talking to someone and they they

just did an impression of like of joseph gordon levitt in the trailer where he's like he does this crazy accent where he's just like nothing gets in the way between me and my porn or whatever i don't know like porn yeah he's he's like really really he's doing he's doing he's doing rod sterling slash me doing um the comic book or Snake in The Simpsons being like, nothing gets in the way. With a dash of like... Jersey Shore. The dash of Jersey Shore. Like, I feel like he, yes, he wants to resuscitate, but to do it now is so interesting.

And I feel like he just like took a weird left turn and then was just like producing theater for a while. Like, I don't really know. I was not aware of that. Honestly, maybe he would, he now, cause now that we remember he was in blockbusters,

maybe he like, after getting a taste of that was like, fuck this. I don't want to do this right now. And then wanted to sort of do his own thing, but they are interesting choices. Yes. Yes.

Okay. Some would say. The choices have been interesting. And Hunter, you're just done with him. You don't want to see him anymore. I have just never seen it for him. Yeah. So I really, there's like nowhere to go for me.

There's nowhere to go. In regards to Mr. Gordon-Levitt. I like him and thought that this is my own long island like trauma but i thought he was so hot in don john i'm looking for my community out here oh wow yeah but i won't find it in this zoom for too long long islanders have not had culture that specifically caters to them. Shut up, Bowen. That's what I'm saying. You rude.

No, it's the truth. Well, wow. What an episode this has been. I can't think of a better person to kick off our post 200th episode stretch than Hunter Harris. You sort of become, this is really the beginning of our new era which is uh we do it's like our bc is like before the list and after the list we do bl and al yeah so this is like year one al and we thank you so honored yes and actually i think this is the birth of a segment that matt and i had kind of talked about before we might do a new thing where we talk about a thing that should

have made the list and is in some ways even better than anything on the list and i think the first inductee onto that list is aaron brockovich i think so i mean i i have to say thank you so much thank you hunter if this is if this is the beginning of a precedent where everyone that comes on the show says their culture that made them say culture was for them and then we immediately decide if that's worth putting into the culture list i love that for us because it gives us authority yeah amazing well hunter thank you so much where can where can they follow you on damn twitter um i tweet at hunter y harris and you should be following in fact i think we made a rule of culture a while back like if you're not following hunter harris and you should be following in fact i think we made a rule of

culture a while back like if you're not following hunter harris then you don't get it you don't get it also um hunter your skincare i'm sorry this is another uncute thing to say but your skincare routine um was it on the cut or was it on strategist this is on the cut on the cut oh then you had an into the gloss feature as well well. I mean, Skincare Queen, Hunter Harris, please check out the routine. I just ordered an ice face mask. Great. Oh, I love those.

Really? So do they work? I mean, I think they're very soothing. I don't think they actually help with your skin. Oh, really? Okay, so I'm looking for like a de-puffer. Get a jade roller. You get a jade roller.

Is the jade roller just kind of like... It's lymphatic. Maybe, but if you put it in your freezer and you whip it out morning and night and the cold just sort of like depuffs and it feels nice. It feels like a nice step of like. All right. I'm going to try it. I'm going to have a cold face for the next several weeks. Okay.

We thank you. We thank you. Okay. At Hunter by Harris on Twitter. Thank you so much, Hunter. We always close each episode with the song. Maybe it's time.

What? How? Oh my God. We forgot the words. Is that what it is? Whenever you're listening to the stars born soundtrack and like the Jackson main song comes on, you're listening to the Stars Born soundtrack and the Jackson Maine song comes on, you're like, what the fuck is this? And then you go,

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