Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Do You Want To Be My Friend?" (w/ Liz Feldman)

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Happy birthday to Matt and happy DAY to all of us because Liz Feldman, creator of Netflix's No Good Deed and Dead To Me, is here on Las Cultch! The multitalented sunbeam of a human joins our hosts to discuss making friends in mid-life, getting her start at the Groundlings in LA, and the cultural shift that came with The L Word. Also, casting No Good Deed, still getting starstruck after years in the biz, and creating what you want to watch. All this, the fascinating story of how Liz came out to her parents, how getting a Cameo is stressful, season 3 of The White Lotus and its new theme song, and the fact that there are too many goddamn coffee places within a specific vicinity in Los Angeles. Liz's new Headgum podcast with friend of the show Jessi Klein is called Here To Make Friends and it launches on March 14th! Check it out, as well as everything Liz has done and will do! Waka waka waka!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I want to wish my sister, Matt Rogers, a happy 35th birthday. Thank you so much. And you know, I wanted one thing for my birthday and it was for us to match. So we're wearing these gorgeous knits. I don't think I've really sat down and looked at and felt the quality. Beautiful garment. Yeah, it's really good.

It's a nice garment. Now, just because we're numerology experts now we've really discussed numbers. Yeah. 35 feels like the right age for you. Sturdy. You think? Yes. I meant to be 35. I like the right age for you. Sturdy. You think? Yes.

I meant to be 35. I think 35 looks good on you. And I think 35, Matt Rogers at 35, like I will always say this, the name Matt Rogers, so nice. You like that? It's a great classic name. You like that?

You like that? It's a great classic name. And there's something about Matt Rogers that translates in some essential way to the number 35. It's like, it's good. You know what? Recently, I was watching a YouTube BTS video with the stars of White Lotus, Michelle Monahan, Leslie Bibb and Carrie Coon.

And they were asking each other, what age would you be, if you could pick any age? And wouldn't you know what they all said? 35? They all said, I would be the exact age I am right now. I would be the exact age I am right now. And they were all so gloriously being actresses to each other. And I absolutely love and worship each and every one of them.

Those are three great actors. But it was just so funny, because they were like, I wouldn't change a thing. I'd be the age I am right now. And I agree. I would love to give 30 another go. You would. Because that was 2020. 30 was stolen from us.

30 was stolen from us in 2020. I would love to just have that year of, I'm 30 now. You know, like, which, it's fine. I feel like this is, us in our 30s is an extended, obviously sort of like extrapolation of that feeling. You could always be one of the Hollywood legends that lies about their age. Okay.

Okay. Now, By the way, you know why you like Matt Rogers? Why? And why I love Bowen Yang? No, three syllables. Three syllable name. And that's actually apropos.

Yes, we've got a three syllable name legend. Three syllable legend. By the way, thank you for saying happy birthday to me. I'm so happy. We're in matching looks, not just because I wanted us to be in for my birthday, but we took new photos for the podcast. Kiss this one goodbye.

Kiss it goodbye, even though this is iconic. And can we just say, this has done us so well. I like that my pores are visible. I really do. I'm not I'm not joking. It's transparency. It's transparency culture. We did not expect this to be the one. This was so good. This was a good one.

I'll miss this one a lot. I'll miss this a lot. But you know what? It had its moment. It had its moment. And like the first half of my 30s, we're turning over a new leaf. We are officially a nine year old podcast. Yes, the podcast. This is the podcast is nine years old. 2016. Yeah.

We started now. It's March 20, 25. It sure is. And who better to help us bring in this ninth year of our lives. I'm very excited. With our three syllable guest. Yeah. So basically this person is, this is how I met this person. On a Zoom audition for the show No Good Deed, Amazing show.

Which she created. And I was in my bathroom in New York because it was the only place I could get good lighting. So I put the Zoom, I opened the Zoom, put the computer laptop on the top of my toilet. Yes. This was in Long Island City? Yes.

And I was like, I hope I can make this in some way charming. Did the Zoom audition and, spoiler alert for the show, I do a lot of cocaine in the show. So I'm in my own bathroom, like miming cocaine, just like off the shitter, off the shitter. Literally, look, every time, you don't know this, every time in that audition, I went down to go like, Mima line of Coke snort,

I was staring into my toilet hole. That's pretty good. My toilet hole. First of all, let's not pretend that's the first time you've ever done that. Okay, more to come in this episode for that. Also created Dead to Me, his new podcast with a friend of the show,

Jesse Kline, we're gonna talk all about. And truly lovely to have her here. Everyone, please welcome into here is here as my friend Liz Feldman. Thank you. Oh, my gosh. I'm thrilled to be here. Well, it's our thrill. What are your birthday wishes for our friend, Matt? Talk to me.

And I wish I knew it was your birthday. Yeah. So that I would have come with some sort of gift and or a matching sweater. Your presence is a gift. I love what you are wearing. It's a vibrant green. Thank you so much. Kelly Green. Kelly Green. I would say this is Kelly gift. I love what you are wearing. It's a vibrant green. Thank you so much. Kelly green. Kelly green? I would say this is Kelly green.

She's giving Kermit. She's giving Kermit. Who's the best muppet? Wow, fuck. Fozzy Bear. Yeah, that's the right answer. Because I love funny guys. He's sweet too.

He's sweet and also for some reason, my daughter loves Fozzy Bear and says Waka Waka around my house. So what do you think it is about Waka Waka that she latched onto? Does she have the comedy bug? She has the comedy bug. She does. Can I tell you that yesterday in the car I picked her up from school, gave her a snack,

wasn't enough. She was still hungry. And I said, what are you hungry for? She said, hungry for boogers. Oh! And she knew she was making a joke. Body work comedy. And I laughed so hard that I've only validated

that boogers are funny. There's something about, she just knows how it hits the ear, not to say boogers, which would have been funny, but hungry for boogers. She said, I'm hungry for boogers, which I think is really a strong, strong statement. What are you hungry for? I'm hungry for boogers. She said, I'm hungry for boogers. Which I think is really a strong, strong statement. What are you hungry for? I'm hungry for boogers.

You know who she is? She's the next Sarah Sherman. She's the next Sarah Sherman. No higher praise. If I could be so lucky. I think you might be luck. Wow. I can't believe there are two of these sweaters in existence.

Okay, so this is what I wanted to say about this. We don't even own these. Okay, so my friend Jared, who I'm dying to introduce you to, Jared Frieder, everyone knows him. That's a reader, Katie, publicist, finalist, or Kyle. He came to help us sort of art direct the shoot. He buys two of everything. He had two of these.

Was this what he was dreaming up that you would be matching? No, because we told him, we gave him like 20 minutes notice. We're like, get down here, we need extra clothes. Like I did not pack enough for the shoot. I totally didn't realize that I should have packed for this. He came with doubles and this is just a thing. His retail behavior is that he buys two of each.

What is that? There's there's a pathology there. There's a pathology there. But I have to say, I feel like it's really worked out because it's actually sort of stunning on both of you. Can I say it really does work on it's actually sort of studying on both of you. Can I say it really does work on us both? It works on you both. It does.

I'm always hesitant to match because it's all, with Matt especially, because it gives Tweedle Dee Tweedle Dum. But that's who we are. You're right. I mean, no, I'm not feeling Tweedle Dee Tweedle Dum. I'm feeling Tweedle Hot and Tweedle Stud. Tweedle Hot, Tweedle Stud, title of that.

Okay, so now- Oh my God, I love that for us. What's the Tweedle blank. Tweedle Stud, Tidal of that. Okay, so now- Oh my God, I love that for us. What's the Tweedle blank, Tweedle blank for you and Jesse Klein? Oh wow, that is, wow, Tweedle, oh shit. You knew, I'm putting it on the spot. But the new podcast you guys are starting is about adult friendship.

That's right, it's called Here to Make Friends. Here to Make Friends. And it's really about how hard it is to make friends in your midlife. Yes. Which you're not quite there yet, but wait till you see. Wait till you turn 36. Oh, the algorithm, the algorithm is telling me I'm in my middle age. What is it telling you?

So a couple of things. My per- okay, I almost said my personal trainer and I guess I am just going to say it because that's what it is. I have a personal trainer I've started with and he goes to me the first day we ever started working is like, he goes, it's actually really good that you started now because at 35, that's when your bone density starts to go. And then at 36, that's actually when you lose any metabolism you've ever had. So it's really good that we're getting to work now. And I'm like, and so then I get randomly served

on Instagram, this like, you know, when you flip through the stories and then there's one that's like a targeted ad, it's like how 35 means you're definitely middle-aged. It's like all of a sudden, everything had always told me like, you're young, you're young, you're young. And then hit 35 and they're like, you're middle-aged, you're middle-aged, we're changing,

we're moving the goalposts back. 35 is middle-aged. I need you not to be middle-aged because I'm so much older than 35. No. No, I feel like middle-age is 40. I'm gonna be honest. I'll co-sign you with her.

As life expectancy grows, shouldn't middle-age move up in number? Yeah, somebody said middle-ages until you're 60, which I thought was generous. That's kind of major. That person's a legend that I wanna meet. Have them on their podcast. Yeah, I'll have them on our podcast.

Befriend them. Yes, exactly. They feel like a good friend. Do you have a theory on why it's harder to make friendships in your mid-adulthood? Yeah, I mean, I think in part because when you're a kid, all you have is your friends. You're just there to play, you're there to make believe,

you're, you know, you don't have judgment or, you know, needs that are clear. Yeah. You know? I feel like I barely have them now. Because you're 34. I don't have... I really don't have needs. Yeah, talk to Matt's trainer, because he'll tell you at 37.

At 37, that's where you identify your needs. No, it is true. You know what I was thinking about the other day? Remember when you were a kid, like a young, young, young kid, remember this sentence, this question? Do you want to be my friend? Yes! I used to ask that question on the playground,

and even then it felt so intimate, but it was like this intimacy that you're allowed when you're a child to ask a pure question like that. Oh my God, I could cry. Truly. But that is true. Like, you're allowed to be intimate and vulnerable and yourself when you're a kid. And I think by the time you get into your mid-30s, 40s, I'm just being generous by saying that.

I really just mean over 40. But no, but when you get to be an older person, like there's a history that you have behind you. There's like a present that you're living in where there's so many stories. Like it's like when you go on a first date with somebody and you're like, which version of myself am I going to give? Like, am I gonna tell them, my brother and my sister, you know? And so Jesse and I were really lucky because we became friends in the writer's room of Dead to Me.

And I knew who she was and she knew who I was and we were both sort of like, you know. Excited to be around each other. Excited to be around each other. And then when we started talking in the writer's room, I realized that like everybody was just watching us sort of kibitz and chit chat with each other. And like, we just had so much in common.

And I was so excited. And I, you know, you feel that sparkle inside with that new friend thing, which, you know, I'm a happily married gay. I've been with my wife for 16 years. So I don't, you know, I don't get to do the first date thing, but that felt kind of first datey.

And it was really like, it was really sweet. And so we are weirdly kind of like friendship nerds. We love to talk about friendship. And by the way, you guys are... We're the biggest friendship nerds. But you are such wonderful friends to each other. Like it's such a pleasure to listen to your show, not just for the funny and the pop culture of it all. So that I feel relevant and I sort of know what's going on

in the world, but also just because like you are kind to each other, you are like the living embodiment of yes and. Oh! That is such a nice compliment. It's true. Very sweet. That is, oh thank you, Waze.

My girl that I love. I mean, you guys love each other and it's like, it's snark free in such a wonderful, like fresh way. You know what's interesting about that? I think because we were two gays doing a podcast talking about pop culture in the beginning, like in the breakdowns, people would talk about our podcast and we would get snarky all the time. And I'm like, is this just because we're two gay guys because we're not snarky at

all? As in like the comments? Like people that were like trying to explain what the podcast was. They would call us snarky and we'd be like, I guess, but that's not. No, I would actually call you devoid of snark. I would see... You guys are so like authentic and I would say very kind-hearted about your approach to pop culture. We'll quip. We'll quip, quip, quip. Oh, we'll give you a quip and we'll give you a dragon to read.

It's rule culture number 49. Oh, we'll quip and we'll give you a dragon to read. But no, I mean, I do think it's like, that's very nice of you to say. I wonder if it's like, well, it's you and Jesse. So it's like, you guys are obviously iconic comedians, by the way, two wonderful showrunners I've worked with. So are you actually, this thread, this comment, okay. Jesse Klein's show ran, I love that for you.

And this was no good deed. But I wonder, are you kind of rolling the dice on some people because you're like Oh, we want to be friends with this person. Like we're sort of like the whole point That's the whole you're not you're not playing it safe. Oh, not at all. You're not bringing in like Oh, no, we are playing it safe because at first, you know how it is when you're You need well, it's also like people don't know what your show is. So like no, we're not gonna Chastain's not coming on yet She will she's she's never hit the podcast or kill. Yeah. I mean, you know, so we do have our white whales, you know Of course as I've heard you guys talk about Of course we know we have our white whales

but for now we are mostly having guests on that we know on some level because they trust us enough to come on without having heard an episode because the show doesn't come out until March 14th. But the whole point is that we want to make friends and we feel excited that we got to make friends with each other. So now we're like, who else could we make friends with? And the excuse of just inviting them on the podcast and then essentially like bum rushing them into friendship

and then cornering them and basically putting pressure on them in front of a microphone to be like, but would you want to have drinks with us? We want drinks. Yes. Answers always yes. That's like the sort of blue sky fantasy, like not end game, but like that's the,

like when you say like, can we be friends? Is that the image like eventually we just get like, call each other up for like drinks, like in prom too. Yes, a thousand percent. Okay, yeah. Like my ideal or Jesse and I have the ideal that like maybe at the end of the season we would have a group hang like a last supper. Oh, I love that. You know, yeah, you guys are invited. Oh, my God. I'm doing the podcast next week.

Yeah. But when I we wanted to get you, but I felt like you're very busy. No, I wanted you both on together. So available. Or if you want to have just him, I feel like you're very busy. I wanted you both on together. I'm so available. Or if you want to have just him, I think he should have a moment with both of you. Yeah, he should have a moment because he's like our son. He's your son and I'm like the exchange program, you know. Absolutely not. Kid from the East Coast.

That is so now we know what Bowen really thinks of himself. No, I'm just like, you know, I'm from these coasts. That kind of thing. But Bowen, if I may take this moment to say what a fan I am of yours. Likewise, Liz. That means so much. It means so much to me. I am a, you know, obviously long time fan of the show that you're on. It's called Saturday Night Live.

Correct. And, you know, I've been watching this since I was a young child, but you are such a fucking bright light on that show and truly, and I just, you're fucking brilliant. Thank you. Oh my God. It's his birthday. But when you get behind that weekend update desk, like I just, I like, I like lean forward. Yeah. I get the proverbial popcorn out. I know it's going to be fucking great.

It's, you know, what I love about it is that it's a hit or miss. Well, that's that's the show. But that is it's true. Nothing's perfect. Nothing's perfect. And I love that about working there. It's like, oh, I tried something. Yeah, but you never fail because you're you. Liz, that's so nice.

It's very true. It's true. Did you check out the 50th? I did. I did. Well, I thought there's a very handsome guy on the red carpet. It's true. Did you check out the 50th? I did. What'd you think? Well, I thought there was a very handsome guy on the red carpet. Oh, yes! No, no, no. Just a real fucking star on the red carpet.

He looked great. By the way, his audition, just to go back to that for a second, I want you to know where that audition came from because we were, I had written the part, we were casting the show, couldn't find the guy at first. We were looking in, I don't know where the hell we were looking, but couldn't find him. And in the middle of the night, I, shit you not, I was like, cause this is, I'm a weird, like,

I wake up with ideas kind of person. It was like three o'clock in the morning and I shot up out of bed and I was like, it's Matt Rogers, it's Matt Rogers, what am I doing? I'm so happy that that happened. I swear. The spirit moved you. The spirit moved me.

It was like somebody whispered in my ear and then I couldn't shake it. And then of course you nailed the audition and. That's very kind. You know, it is hard on, it's hard when you audition on Zoom. No, it's terrible. I've never had a good audition.

Yeah, that's the thing is it's like. You have clearly, but. Oh, I do it all the time. I put myself on the self tape all the time. I did it yesterday. Like it's. Heroic. It's hard. But I really loved you as a, you know, as someone who obviously a name I knew and respected so much

when they told me that you were actually gonna be on the zoom, that's when you're like, okay, well, you know, here we go. But it is hard. It's hard to like connect in a way. It's hard to really get adjustments. It's also, you're seeing someone in a literal screen, which is different than the screen they'll be on ultimately.

So it's bizarre. So I wanted to ask you, like as a creator and as someone who auditions people all the time, like do you miss the in-person auditions? Cause you're a director as well. I mean, you're so multi-talented. So I would imagine that like part of getting in there and like getting Clay on the Mound and really working is part of what you love. And it's so different now.

Clay on the Mound. Clay on the Mound is, is that a Judy Greene thing? Yeah, it's like, it's a thing that like Judy and Celeste and I always say, get Clay on the table. I love that. I like Clay on the Mound kind of hits the ear better. Yeah, Clay on the Mound I'm interested in. Auditioning is so different now. Well, it is.

I will. I'm just a person person. I like people. I like to sit here. I mean, I love the fact that we're doing this in person and not on Zoom. And so, yeah, I really do miss the personal, the interpersonal stuff that you get. Also, I used to be an actor. Right.

I know what it's like to go in that room and, you know, be nervous or unsure of the choice you're making. And then the people over there looking at you is so vulnerable. So I at least want to be there for the people to be like, hey, I got you. Like, it's fine. There's no like, we'll work on it. We'll do it. You know. Yeah. So thank you for doing that from your bathroom on Zoom. Like, ultimately, it was either that or like, I wasn't going to be able to do it. Honestly, it's one of my favorite

roles I've ever played. Maybe my favorite role I've ever played. It's a brilliant casting because I know exactly what you mean. It's like it's a very specific kind of person. And for Matt to just sort of be like this perfect invisible hand throughout the entire season and say, like, it's just you're so good in it. He is so good in it. And Matt Rogers, Ray Romano, what chemistry.

Who knew? I just saw him at the 50th too. And he's at 50. Oh, so he's great. I mean, that was all the talk. First of all, you were incredible in the show. And what a great improviser. So many of his best lines were from your head to your mouth. Not from my little typey typeys.

Well, that's also you providing a space for that, which is another compliment I'll give you is that like it's so rare. Okay, I'll say this good leadership, like what you show is just rare. And so one of the things I loved about working with you is how decisive you are when you've gotten what you wanted and how you move on like confidently and everyone else can feel confident around you when You know when a leader is just like we got it and we're joyfully moving on and and then no one has to go home

And feel strange or odd or anything like that because it's like we did it and Liz always included a fun run I mean, how could you not? When you have Matt Rogers, you're gonna let him do his thing No, I just mean like for everyone at home It's, it's like that take at the end when it's, you kind of got it and it's one for fun and it's that chance to like improvise. And if you're lucky to really connect with a character and have ideas for it and like it's a collaborative set, like I found that a lot of the stuff that was in the show ended up being from those runs. I would say you wrote probably half your lines. If not more. You know, I don't know about that.

He's a writer too. I don't know if you knew. But like, just being in that type of environment where it's just like, constantly, obviously the cast is the cast. And if you haven't watched No Good Dude yet, you should. You should. I mean, you get to see Matt Rogers with Lisa Kudrow,

Ray Romano. I mean, it's pretty amazing. Did you ever, this is a weird question because you've worked in the business for so long. But like, do you get starstruck? Do you get nervous around talent? Do you guys get starstruck? Yes! Definitely.

Oh. Maybe you. Do you still? Well, I do. I've had recent moments of starstriking. Yeah. Especially at SNL 50. Oh, that was crazy. Oh my god. Well, that was every single famous person in the entire universe was there. I know this is not a brag,

but there was just a remarkable number of them who were like, I love the podcast. And we were like, and to both Matt and I, because Matt and I watched it. And it was like every two minutes, it was like crazy A-lister. Who are some of the surprises? We can say it.

We can say it. Claret Ains. Claret Ains. So basically like whenever I see anyone like going over to Bowen and being like, oh, Bowen, I'm like, yes, because Bowen, I agree with you, is the star of SNL, is the truth and the light. And it's Bowen. And the 50th, everyone's excited, talk to Bowen. Claire Danes turning to me and just calling me by my first name. I was like, I can't believe it.

Best actress ever. The greatest. And then we just had a moment with her. Claire Danes, and then two minutes later, Sarah Danes, and then I was like, I'm so excited to be here with you. I'm so excited to. Best actress ever. The greatest. And then we just had a moment with her. Claire Danes and then five minutes, two minutes later, Sarah Jessica Parker, Matthew Broder coming down the stairs,

SJP clocking us, bowing to us. Stop. Wow. It was SJP. I mean, she puts the pop in pop culture. Yes, she does. She is the New York woman. She is the New York woman. She is the New York woman.

Do you know what I mean? Absolutely. Like, anyway, so like, sorry to answer your question and this just turned into a whole name drop fast, but like. I mean, I asked you, I'm like asking for that. I'm sucking the names out of it really. Of course, of course, great, there you go. But you with the kudro and with.

I mean, listen, it's almost like, it's not even that I get starstruck. Sometimes I get starstruck. Most of the time I know I'm gonna see the person. If it's a surprise, if it's like I'm running into them at a party and they're like, I listen to your podcast, like that's different. That's like, you know, like sending a sweet shiv

down my spine. But like with Lisa Kudrow, I had been watching Friends every night and her name came up in casting and I was like, but I watch her every day, I watch her on my TV every day. I was very excited to meet her. But then I know that I have to present myself as a leader. And thank you so much for what you said.

That's very, very kind to say. But I know I have to like, you know, I have to be confident when I meet her and not treat her like she's this thing that is unattainable to me, because then why would she want to work with me? Yeah, because she's very much quite there. Attainable. Yes, she's very much right. She's interested in you.

I'll tell you, this is a true story. This morning, I'm getting ready because one of the great parts about my job, especially when I'm in development on a new thing, is that I get to sit and meet actors and they just like, you know, they just go, do you want to meet so and so? And I go, yeah, it's like going on a lunch date with the most random, wonderful people. So this morning, I'm getting ready to have breakfast with Pamela Anderson. We were just talking about her in the car.

We are obsessed. She's, and I don't use this word often, a queen. Yeah. She's a queen. And I'm looking at myself in the mirror and I don't have makeup on and I'm like, you know what? She's not gonna wear makeup. I know that that's her thing. So I'm like, you know, do I show up at breakfast

with Pamela Anderson with no makeup on? And I take one look at myself in the mirror and I go, you know what, I'm not working from the same baseline as Pamela Anderson. Stop, please. And I was like, spackle it on, spackle it on. She's a Canadian queen. She doesn't give a fuck about anyone else.

She doesn't, but I, like, I wanted to feel like, you know, I was presentable, so I did put some makeup on and I was still like a 14th as gorgeous as she is. Starstruck? I wasn't starstruck. No, you just wanna be. No, right, because again, I'm like trying to be like, let's collaborate on something maybe, you know,

but like I do sit in awe is what I'll say. Like I'm not maybe struck, but I sit in like complete respect and awe of people who, especially like her, people who have been through the fucking wringer because of pop culture, because of our thirst for her fame and her gorgeousness and the way in which society has objectified her

over and over again and truly turned her into an object. And let me tell you, she's fucking brilliant. Yeah. She's so smart. So she's way better read than I am. Like she was making references and I'm nodding like I know what she's talking about. No idea what she's talking about. I mean, I was just so impressed. So impressive. She's she has a criterion clause that episode where she's really

good. She knows every fucking. She was naming movies. She was talking about Jenna Rollins movies. Oh, yeah. I mean, like she's she's just such, knows every fucking... She was naming movies. She was talking about Jenna Rowland's movies. Oh yeah. I mean, like she's just such an impressive human being and given everything that she's gone through, like, you know, to have your story be, to have your story be stolen

is I think kind of almost among the worst things that can happen to a person, you know? Like that's her story to tell. And, you know, I get that it seems like it's part of the universe and it's, you know, up for grabs, but that's really rough. Right. Ugh, we're so done with New Year, New You. This year, it's more you on Bumble.

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I will say, going back to what Matt was saying about your leadership, this is such a backtrack, but he was coming off of that set every day, being like, I mean, Liz Feldman, what a fucking queen. Like, truly was so, so, so happy and grateful and learning so much from that experience. And it all shows. That show is so great.

Thank you so much. It's fantastic. Thanks. And also you have to know how nervous I was. Like, because it will be one thing to book a show with Lisa Kudrow. You know what I mean? Like, cause that's another thing is it's like

BTS for the readers and everybody at home. It's like you open your email, you're lucky enough one day to get any audition, because they're very rare now. You know what I mean? And you open it up and it's like, it's the new Liz Feldman show, which is already so exciting in and of itself.

Everyone loves, it's such an exciting name to see yours when you're an actor too, because you know it's gonna be, like I would imagine that every actor is taking out all the meetings with you because they loved it to me and they see No Good Deed and they see this. There's just so much potential for them to do things. You know what I mean?

And like every character is interesting, which is rare, but it's like you see, and Lisa Cujo is attached. That would be enough to give you a panic attack, even on an audition where you're not actually gonna interact. And then it's like, Ray Romano, the name that really took me out was Linda Carnolino. Took me out, like true acting hero of mine.

And it just didn't stop from there. I was a huge fan of every single person. And then he goes, it's like the Super Smash Brothers of television. That's brilliant. Absolutely. I thought that and I used it in press. You did. You did. But that's true.

And but but here's in. I attribute it to you. I know. I did. I give you credit. I didn't need the attribution. I'm going to go to. I was going to say here's where I go down on you. Here's where we 69 is.

You showed up and I swear to God, he stole every fucking scene he was in. He stole every scene he was in. Matt Rogers and Ray Romano turned into this like comedy team. I mean, you look out, Bowen. Yeah, I know. I mean, it could be Ray sitting there in that matching sweater.

In that sweater, yes. But for some reason, I mean, like you would never think like Ray Romano like saw to the earth from, you know, although you're not from too far apart from each other. Maybe it's like you're- Because he's Queens and I'm Long Island, so there was enough there, you know what I mean? But again, like, and I watched him since I was a kid.

I'm the same. I get the vibe. And what a great fucking guy he is too. Yeah, he's a great guy. It's like a set of mentions. Everyone was very nice. I love it. Very, very nice.

And to be honest, that was like the whole goal that I had is now that I get to be a person who, you know, picks actors and hires crew and stuff, I'm like, I want to go to work and be surrounded by people I really enjoy being around. Nice, kind, talented, but people who inspire me, people who are like, you know, if I'm going to go leave my two year old daughter at home and my wonderful wife, who I actually really like, you know, I want to my wonderful wife, who I actually really like. I wanna show up to people who I feel like are my family. And it was so nice because we really did create that

on No Good Deed. This is friendship nerding. This is being a friendship nerd. Where you're saying you and Jesse are friendship nerds. Yes, oh, 100%. This is nerding out about the right chemistry of people, in a way. Yes. And in the writers' room too, I would imagine,

because what I loved most about the set, and I'm experiencing now on another show I'm working on, is I go over to Video Village, and it's like a bunch of people. Like, you have such a great group of ladies that you work with. Yeah, we have a good group. Like, Kelly.

Yeah, Kelly Hutchinson is one of my best friends of 30 years. We were college roommates. Where did you go to college? We went to Boston University. There we go. We lived on Commonwealth Avenue. And we were roommates. She was an acting student.

I was a TV student. And we used to smoke cigarettes in our apartment with the windows closed. Yes. Because that's what you did. Because you had a dark in her life. Yes, we did have a dark in our life. And we just got like, you know,

really stoned on really bad weed and drank horrible wine and have the greatest time. But she was an actress on Broadway for many, many, many years and was like, you know what, I think I want to try my hand at writing. Sent me her script and said to me it was her first show and we've been working together ever since. And I mean, she's truly one of my best friends in,

I mean, 30 years of friendship. So I have her and then Silvert Tree, who's my producing director, is an incredible director, but like we're good friends. And so I'm just in it for that. Like I'm in this whole business for friends. Yeah. That's all it is for me is connections. It's human connection with people.

You know, I want to create that with people at home that I maybe never get to meet. But I also want to create it with the people that I get to see every day. So I was because of the 50th and everything, I was talking to Kristen Wiig, and you guys were in an improv group together years ago? What were those days? Chrisel Wiig is what I like to call it. Chrisel and I were, we were in the Sunday Company in the Groundlings together, but even before that we were in an all female improv group, which was obviously called the last women on earth. And yeah, I mean, like we go way back. I was a bridesmaid in her wedding

This obviously predates SNL, oh gosh, yes, we were children. I mean, I think I met her I was 22 years old In LA we met at the groundlings we we met on like a like a wow improv class at the Groundlings, which is just like a drop in class. And I think we saw each other and we were like, oh, that's we oh, you're funny. Connected. We were connected. Definitely. That's very much us.

That's very much us. And I'm getting all mournful now because I'm like, I think it's still happening. I think it's coming back from the pandemic. But like something about like improv culture being kind of wiped away is really sad because that was the way that you and I made friends with people at college. It's how I've made so many of my dearest friends. Truly. That's how it's why I went to BU.

I was visiting a friend, my friend Dan Fogler, not to name drop, but a wonderful actor. And he was at BU. He was my best friend from high school. I was coming off a TV show called All That, which was my first show. Well, yes. Well, yeah.

I've been doing this a long, long time. And I was like, fuck, I just want to go hang out with my friend in college. He's like, well, I'm auditioning for the improv group. You should just come with me. I'm like, I don't go to school here. I went anyway, got in and they were like, well, if you went to school here,

you could be in this group. And I was like, okay. So I didn't transfer. I wasn't even going to school. I went into the admissions office, filled out an application, did an interview and I got in and I, that's why I went to be you. That's crazy. That's even more because I would tell people, one of the big reasons I went to NYU was because I did all my research and Danger Box was like the group that I was like focused on and then I went. But that's a whole nother level.

Like you were literally led and motivated by that. I was quite literally, I didn't even know like what I was gonna study. I didn't even care about any of it. I just wanted to be in the improv group. Wow. And I made like one of my best friends for life in that group.

I'm still friends with so many of the people from the group, you know, and then out here in LA, all my original friends were from the groundlings. I did that for five and a half years. Isn't it wild how that works out? Like we tell this story sometimes, but you know, so many of our friends from those comedy groups, I was a hammer cat.

So I did a sketch comedy and Bowen was danger box, he did improv, but we were kind of all one big community. And so many of those people are like still working, super successful, still our friends, you know what I mean? It's just, I remember when Rachel Bloom won the Golden Globe. We were at home, at my apartment.

Yeah, we were at Bowen's apartment in downtown Brooklyn. And I was like, you know what's wild? Like, I think we might've been right. Like the people that we thought were special, like actually are. Yeah. And then that obviously like in so many ways has proven to be true, but it is sort of like,

you have to check yourself at that point. You're like, wait, am I okay? Like, am I living in like a simulation where it's just like, how could this be, how could this actually have been the destiny of us all? Like whatever that means, you know what I mean? Not to be rude or whatever, but it's like, you talk about like the friends that you made

all the way back then and like, it's really possible to have those communities endure. It is, it is. And I mean, like when I was in the Sunday Company at the Groundlings, Caitlin Olson, Dax Shepard, you know, and by the way, all three of us were cut. What? You, Caitlin Olson and Dax Shepard were cut from Sunday Company? Yeah, sorry. I have to fix my bra strap because it's so ugly. I guess I'm getting skinny. You're wasting away in front of us. Wait, who the fuck cut you guys?

I mean, listen, it happens, but it is actually in a weird way, the best thing that ever happened to me. So it's like the people that I know who get cut in their own. And like, it's like your Jenny Slates who like go on and become. I mean, Jenny's brilliant. So brilliant. I have I'm friends with several other gals. Yeah.

And one thing about us on the 50s, so many of them showed up. It was amazing. So many people came and they were all so happy. And they're all doing so well. So well. This was my thing. There was just no bitterness at this thing. And I was expecting, it's even bitterness for me

where I'm like, oh God, like, aren't we all so tired? And aren't we all so stressed out about this big show? And it's all led up to this for like so many years. And it was all love and warmth. And I have to say, as a person watching it at home all six and a half hours of it or however long it was very long. But I was I could I could have kept watching. My wife and I were so excited to watch it. And, you know, like that mean that's SNL is is sort of like a family reunion for the audience, too.

Oh, that's you know, because so many of us like grew up watching it. My brother used to show my brother seven years older than me, he used to show me episodes that I in no way should have been watching, you know, at like five years old. You know, so these are all people that we've all grown up with. Right, but it goes back to this like improv thing where, I don't know, it's just harder and harder for people to like connect in this like scaled up way where it was like you were just meeting so many people whenever you were doing shows

or whenever you would like do like rehearsals or practices or whatever, you know? And developing together too is such an important thing I think in terms of grounding friendship. You know what I mean? How many times do we go to each other's shows where there was like 14, 15 people? One time Bowen and I did a show for one person.

Oh yeah. And we were like, it was at the pit underground. Oh sure. I remember the pit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I've been there. We were performing as our filthy, slutty, lip sync duo. Duo, slut.

Perfect. So his name was Slut and my name was Fuck. Together we were slut. And we went essentially for a half hour. Why do you guys come up with this stuff? That was actually our peak. Do you remember when I would look at my Google calendar, I bet I still can.

There was so many Sluck. Sluck was all over. Everyone wanted to book Sluck. Sluck opened for Joe Kim Booster's first special tape. That's right. Oh my God, that's hilarious. Sluck was everywhere. Sluck has performed everywhere. Now I'm embarrassed I hadn't heard of Sluck. No, That's right. Oh my God, that's hilarious. Sluck was everywhere. Sluck has performed everywhere.

Now I'm embarrassed I hadn't heard of Sluck. No one knows about Sluck anymore, but Sluck may return. Sluck will be at the first Trump Kennedy Center on Earth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He wants that. Oh, I love it. You know what we should do? I'm going to say it right here on air to put the pressure on you.

We should get a super group of queer improvisers together and do a charity show for trans youth. Oh, that would be amazing. Yes, okay. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. No pressure even. Let's absolutely do that. I think we should do it

because there's some really brilliant improvisers here in LA too. Oh yeah. And I've had the great pleasure of Drew Droege. Oh, legend. Yep, I mean the greatest. The greatest. Sam Pancake, some really wonderful people. Oh greatest, Sam Pancake.

Someone's nearly one of the people. Yeah, I mean, we should do that. We should absolutely do that. Do you know Brandon Scott Jones? Yes. Yeah, Brandon Scott Jones from Ghosts. Yeah. He was like-

I think I did a improv show with him. Yes, in fact, he's one of the ones that, from the very beginning, it's just so wild how so much really paid off. I was talking actually in my group chat the other day about how UCB really did create some incredible actors because that space in Chelsea, it was like that thrust stage and because it was so small and because the audience was so engaged, because there was an era, I'm sure in LA as well, where it just felt like everyone

was so excited about improv'm sure in L.A. as well, where it just felt like everyone was so excited about improv and sketch. Yeah, I think it was around, you know, it's definitely a 2006, 2012 ish around there when SNL was like really hitting in that era because of like, I think like the way it was, you know, corresponding with

politics. Yeah, it was just it was in the air that like to succeed in comedy, you had to be at UCB and be around it. It felt like in New York Oh, yeah, we flew to New York from LA with our show just to perform at UCB. Wow, yeah Del Close I did do Del Close Yeah, the 24-hour. Yes, we went on at some hilarious hour like four o'clock in the morning For the morning three in the morning that was an The bitch shows were the best part. The bitch shows were the best part. Four in the morning, three in the morning. That was an incredible experience.

That was awesome, yes. Four fifteen in the morning, I went out and did like a thing where it was like everyone, it was all gay guys and we were all pretending to be Boston straight guys. And I came out and I remember I ate a carrot off the ground and I was, and I literally did this whole stupid bit where I was like,

should I eat this carrot then? And everyone was like, no, no. I was told afterwards that it had been in someone's ass, the bit performance before. And you had eaten the carrot. Someone had put the carrot in their ass and left it on the stage. And when I came out, I didn't know that.

And so I took the carrot. I was like, I'm gonna eat this carrot. They were like, no. I put it in my mouth and ate it. Let's not pretend that was the first time. Yeah, that's my kink. My kink is parrot ass. Just pull it out back.

But no, what I was saying was like, the style of the stage being thrust and because the audience was so engaged and it was so small, it created such good actors because they could do such small stuff. Choices, yeah. Like I remember Middle Ditch, Aubrey Plaza,

Ellie Kemper, Darcy Carden, Brandon Scott Jones, like all these people that ended up having success in television. Yeah. They came from an era where you could develop as a live performer, but it's still, it fed the on-camera work. Because it was black box thrust. Yes. It was just a thrust space.

Yes. So you could like... I miss that space. Kind of like play to your angles. I don't know. I'm not making total sense, but like it was. Kind of like play to your angles. I don't know. I'm not making total sense, but like it was a way to like play to like an angle slash camera or just to play to an audience that was in front of you

in that thrust setting. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's interesting that you say that because the Groundlings is a proscenium. It's a very, it's a much more sort of presentational theater theater. And the characters tend to be bigger. Yes. I remember hearing that and being like, should I move there? Because I always got the note I was too big.

Speaking of Kudrow, was it season two of the comeback where she does like Groundlings classes? With Jimmy Fallon. By the way, Jimmy Fallon should also be in our live show. He's our favorite person. One of our favorite people. I love him. He's wonderful. And, you know, I have known him since he was, you know, a wee improviser.

I love him and I'm so proud of everything he's becoming. And so much more to come. Wait, what were we just talking about before that? Oh my God, I'm so sorry. Thrust stages, groundlings, proscenium. Oh, Lusicudro was a groundling. Yes, yes, of course. And then a teacher? And then a teacher. And she said, recently we were talking, she said she was a terrible teacher. I bet that's not true. I can do it. I could never teach. I couldn't either. Nope

I used to teach that sketch not at UCB. Oh No, I I'm not like I I can only like lead under great duress You were you under direct because you didn't show that on no good deed. Did you find yourself under duress? No, no, I think I just mean pressure. Like, you know, external pressure. Like, here's a multi-million dollar budget on your shoulders. Like, don't fuck it up, you know? Do you like show running?

I do. You do? I do. It's like a sickness, but I do like it. It's so hard. It's very hard. It's very hard, but it is 11 jobs in one. I like eight of them. You know what I mean? What are the three you don't like? Therapists.

Yeah. I mean, I actually don't mind that part. I don't mind the managerial stuff and I don't mind the interpersonal stuff. I don't love the tech stuff. I don't love that. And I don't love like props meetings. You know? Who does? Like just going over like, here's the props. I don't I don't love that and I don't love like props meetings

You know, who does like just going over like here's the proper I mean like I'm not a detail person which I'm much more of a macro gal and My wife is micro. I'm macro and so we make a good pair, you know, and But I do really like it because I love coming up with something from nothing It's like this part that I'm in right now where I get to just sort of dream up a new world. It's so fun. I get to people my world. I get to create a writer's room of people I wanna spend time with

and then think of actors I wanna work with. And I- She pointed to us, everyone. She pointed to us. She gestured. Lucky us. It was more of a, no. Oh, God.

Guys, 100%. I would work with you again in a heartbeat and I would work with you for the first time in a heartbeat. I would be lucky too. No, no. Bowen? She offers you a part right here now. No.

I'm like, wait, how do I sound right for that? We don't really compete for, no, cause you don't audition anymore. Because I don't think I'm good at it. Bowen. I'm a bad auditioner. No, I can, I can, I can talk to that. He always booked.

Like I remember, I remember back in the day when we, when we both were up for SNL, I remember I was like, when you booked that, I was like, wow, he books, cause he would book all the time. And I felt like I had to book SNL in order to make a career happen. Interesting. I was like, I was like,

this is the only thing I'll be right for, because I always got the note too big, too big, too big. I just thought I'm never going to work on a camera. But me, you're not too big for me a camera. Don't you agree with this now? I watch him on Nougat D and I'm like, there's no one more compelling to watch on screen. Okay, no more. First of all, almost every reviewer thing

that was written that I read, because I don't read them all, but like, they highlighted Matt Rogers, who by the way, is in a cast of very, very, very large cast of characters. I mean, there's nine series regulars and people are talking about Matt Rogers. You know, who's in many episodes, but you know, like, you speak for yourself.

I can watch them in anything, in any kind of thing. And yeah. You guys are being too much. I saw you and I love that for you. And I'm like, who is this guy? I love that show too. That show was gone too soon, man. I agree, I agree.

I can't believe no one wanted that. Like when, cause they went out, they went out to pitch it again. And I was just like, this is like, you have so much proof of concepts here. The second season was fully written. I feel like I can say all this now because it's been a long time. But I was just like, that just goes to show the industry is in such a rough spot that that show was good. Yeah, it had fans. It had like you can put it on a Netflix homepage

with like Molly Shannon in the fucking. Literally no reason for people to say no. No reason for a network to say no. Yeah. And yet, whatever. Well, it was an unfortunate timing thing. It was that you guys were a victim of a regime change, you know, which is like.

Tons of regimes changing. Yeah. Yes. Anyways, all this is lovely, but there's a question we have to ask you. OK. So Liz Feldman, this is the question that we ask all of our guests. And you'll be no different. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Hmm.

I'm going to say the culture that made me say culture was for me was the original L word. Wow. You know, this is really good. Thank you. So Kate Manning must have been huge. I mean, yeah, because she was on no good deal. ICOM. Yeah.

Well, here's the true story, which is that, you know, there was nothing for lesbian culture in terms of, you know, really being in the mainstream other than when Ellen came out. You know, but that was a she really died on the cross for us on that one. 100%. Truly. But it wasn't necessarily about, you know, affecting sort of pop culture. That was about society to me.

Yes. You know, her coming out was about changing the temperature of how we feel as a society about gay women. All respect for what she did. All respect. But the L word was different because it was a fantasy. But it was a fantasy that was set in a reality that did sort of exist. It just didn't exist for me.

Sure. You know what I mean? And you're saying the L word is cultural instead of societal? Yes, I do think the L word is cultural. I mean, societal, I think, then as a result. Yes, yes, yes. But cultural in that, and listen, I'm gonna say a few things that may be offensive to other queer women out there, but I'm a gay woman who grew up in the 80s and 90s.

We had no role models, no direct role models. We were grasping at straws. We were grasping at an MTV VJ Duff. We were grasping at the girl from just one of the guys, which was an 80s movie literally before you were born. But you know, there was nothing for us that we were grasping at Mary Stuart Masterson and some kind of wonderful who was a straight person.

It seemed sort of gay, you know? There was iconography there that you could relate to in an abstract way, yeah. Like, thank you, Katie Lang. We appreciate your work. But when The L Word came out, There was a iconography there that you could relate to in an abstract way. Yeah. Like, thank you, Katie Lang. We appreciate your work. Sure. But when The L Word came out, I remember watching it with my one lesbian friend that I had in

Los Angeles at the time and just thinking, oh my God, it's possible. It's possible. Where are these women? They must exist. They must exist. And we were so enamored of this culture and this sort of group of friends that were created on the show that I kind of think we manifested it because we eventually met them. Yes. And I was a stand up at the time and I was writing and stuff and I was doing stand up at

Dinosaur Weekend, which for the dear readers, that is the lesbian sort of like Coachella, if you will. And I was doing stand up and the L Word gals were doing a like, you know, meet and greet kind of thing. While the show was still on? While the show was still on. And somebody took them to come see my stand up. And I had been doing the silliest vlogs. Yeah, I said vlog. That's for me. Oh, don't say it with your chest. I had been doing these veryiest vlogs. Yeah, I said vlog. That's what I don't know. Say it with your chest. I had been doing these very silly vlogs with some other lesbians where we essentially like recapped the L word. We made fun of the L word and recapped it and they had been watching

it unbeknownst to me. The cast had been watching these vlogs. Kate Menning came up to me and said I'm a huge fan and I almost fainted. This is like the hottest woman alive. Sarah Diska Parker coming up. 100%. Yeah. And I was like, well, I'm a big fan of yours. And we have been friends ever since. Oh, my God.

Dear friends. She's one of my dearest friends. She's great and no good, too. She's wonderful. I wrote the part for her. I mean, it's like, it's it's who else could be that person? You don't even like obviously, you do know, but like when it hit on Netflix and everyone freaking the fuck out when they saw Linda Cardellini in bed with Kate, like it was like,

how much of that was you being like, he, he, he, the lesbian, I'm feeding the lesbians right now. You had to know. You have to think about your audience a little bit. Of course. Because then you'll think back and you're like, you're an audience that wanted that at one point. Exactly. You forget about that. I think that's the most important thing to do when you are in the very lucky position to create shows is create something

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You know what I mean? And it's like, thank you for reminding us of this because it's kind of the same with gay male culture. We've been spoiled our, you know, whole cultural lives. There've always been queer men at the fore in some ways, but I feel like there was this wasteland of a period in the aughts and especially in the 90s. But like, I remember just being on IMDB message boards, being like, is this actor?

Like that was our only way of figuring it out. Right. And now how many like, not open secrets, but like how many people just like are gay and are huge stars. Huge. And they're either out or it's not that they're not out. It's just not a thing.

It's not a thing. Exactly. It's just no one really talks about it. And I guess it's better, right? It's better. It's like you have like a Coleman Domingo who's like a best actor nominee twice over now. And you're like, oh, it's not hampered you in any way.

No, because it's really not a thing. It's not a thing. And so far as you guys being brunettes shouldn't be a thing. Sure, sure. And being Asian shouldn't be a thing. Like you're a talented artist with something to say. That should be the thing. Exactly, which gives me hope for like the way

that like trans people still keep getting vilified and keep like getting put through the wringer in terms of like, oh, we like them now or we hate them now, we like them now. It's like, it seems like society has not figured out how to feel about trans people, especially now, but it's like, oh, but you literally have a trans best actress nominee

despite all the things that she's done. She's still a compelling actor. She's still delivered an amazing performance. It just gives me, it's like, oh, like if we can extrapolate, hopefully that means something in the near future that's like pretty incredible, I don't know. But that is one of the things that I love about the entertainment business

and about being storytellers is that we do sort of help society tip, you know, and I think we were so close to a tipping point with the trans community and with the perception of trans people. And unfortunately, the forces of they scapegoated them, they scapegoated them. Yeah. And they pulled them, you know, in this tug of war to the other side and turned people forces of... They scapegoated them. They scapegoated them. Yeah. And they pulled them, you know, in this tug of war to the other side and turned people against them just totally based out of fear and bad statistics.

It's also wild because that show, The L Word, gets rediscovered all the time. In fact, when I was at Coachella last year, Renee Rapp performed and she had the cast of the L Word introduce her because it's her favorite show. Of course. And just like, watching them all come out. There's a Gen Z audience. Like, I'm joking now. Yes, I mean, you know, the L Word came back.

Yes, the next Gen. And I think it was the next Gen Gen Z. You know, that was less for me because I, you know, was more of an OG fan. But it was also just, I mean, just even fashion wise and just the way in which that we present ourselves. Like, when I was growing up in the 90s, it was very flannel shirt, unfortunate haircut times.

What was the haircut? I mean, I had a mullet. I did have a mullet. Oh, yeah. More of a late 80s mullet. More of a late eighties mullet, more of a late eighties mullet, like more of a junior high kind of vibe. Or like even middle school.

My style icon at the time was Alex P. Keaton from Family Time. Wow. By the way, I didn't realize this, that he was like a conservative icon. Well, not an icon, but the bit of him was that he had liberal parents and that he was Michael J. Fowler. Not of my kind, but the bit of him was that he had liberal parents and that he was a 1980s young conservative man

being like, this is the way we're gonna do it. I didn't know that. He was the outlier of his family and I loved that show unknowingly because I was the outlier of my family. So even though he was playing this conservative Republican kid, I related to that character

because it was almost as if he was the gay kid in his family. The inverted, yes, I love it, got it. But then the L word, like the fashion was like on point, they were hot, they had cool haircuts, they did cool things, they went out, they forged this whole community and life that I just wanted so badly. And the irony is that just a few years later,

I got to have it with those actresses who played those parts. And like, I just, you know, manifestation is real, baby. Oh, I know it. That's actually so, so true. So true. It's also so important to hear you say and to remember, write something that you would wanna watch

because that actually makes creating so much easier. Yeah. It's one of those sentences. I'm almost connecting it to an improv thing, which is this always makes it easier for me too, which is if this is true, what else is true? It's just an easy generator, but like write something that you would want to watch is like, of course, I would do that. You know what I mean?

And like, and also if you're thinking about it that way, you're not the only one, you know? Like, so it's, it's really easy fun in. Yeah. Also, it's going to make it a better right for you. If you want to, you know, if that's the kind of thing you're going to be interested in watching, you'll be more interested in writing it too. And it won't make it as painful of a process though. It's always painful. When was, when were you out? So like how far along in your queer journey were you when Elward fell upon your lap? Oh, I was, I was pretty far. I mean, I was like 26 or 27.

So I mean, that's how long of a dearth I was operating in. And I mean, I was, I, I kissed my first girl at 16, totally seduced by a girl who had gone to boarding school. Oh, she knew things I didn't. Yeah. Thank you so much. And I didn't really know exactly what I was because I had actually weirdly been boy crazy before I had kissed a girl then became girl crazy.

Yeah. And so, you know, this was long before fluidity or even bisexuality was like a really accepted thing. Yeah. And so I wasn't really I was like still sort of trying to figure myself out. And my mother at 17 years old, I'm a senior in high school, gave me a letter and she said, you're going to read this in the car and I'm going to I'm going to drive and you're going to read it in front of me. And she was driving me to my SAT tutor at the time. And I opened it up and it was two poems.

One poem was a daughter talking to the mother. It rhymed and it was something like, I don't know what to say when a girl walks by my way. I think I might be gay. And I'm reading this and I'm in no way, shape or form ready to like come out. Then the second letter is actually a poem from the mother to the daughter, also rhyming. And it says something like, you know, have no doubt, we'll figure it out, like that kind of thing. And I was stunned. So my mother outed me at 17. I'm going to guess a full five years before I would have probably done so myself. And so that really started my journey.

Did that feel like an act of kindness or an act of like shock? Like it like, oh, I please. Yeah. What did it feel like an imposition? It was a shock. I would call it a shock because I wasn't ready. Of course. And I appreciate that she saw me, but she almost like saw me too well. It's like, you know, she saw the X-ray version of me where, you know, like it was bones and everything.

And I wasn't really ready for that. And I was mostly not ready to tell my father, who at the time was quite homophobic. And so I was like, please don't tell dad. I mean, it's 1994. 1994. So please don't tell dad. And then of course, that night, my father, who's like very Brooklyn comes home and he's like, your mother said you might have something that you might want to talk

about. You have some questions. And I'm like, let me tell you who I don't want to ask these questions to. Yeah. So I said, I just, I have to say, I really admire myself at that age because I was very self, I don't know, I felt I was self possessed. And I said, yeah, you know, I have been having questions, but it's okay. You know, and, uh, you know, I have been having questions, but it's okay, you know, and, you know, I think I like girls, but I also like boys and blah, blah, blah. And he kind of started to cry, which was very shocking because he's a really tough guy. And then he said he wanted me to go get my head checked by a psychiatrist.

And I said, I'll only go if you come with me. And I was like, it was just such a weird time. Did you go? So we went and I was 17. All I really cared about was driving. Like I wasn't ready to like profess anything about who I would be or end up being with or anything like that. So we go all together.

She gives me a psychological evaluation. We all meet separately with her. Then we all meet together as a family with her. She said I was the most mentally stable teenager she had ever had in her office and that I didn't need therapy, but she recommended that my parents stay on. Wow. Icon. I swear to God we walk out of her office. My father gave me the keys to the car. It's the first time they let me drive the car home.

Have you written about this? This is incredible. I've written a version of it. I did a short film with my sister, Rebecca Feldman, who's a very talented writer and director in her own right. We did a short film called My First Time Driving. But I should say it's worth a revisit. It's worth a revisit. Yeah, that's stunning. Just like that image of them allowing you to drive them while they've been told that

as full grown adults, they may have like more to figure out. I mean, it's wild. I mean, I mean when I was a little kid, I'll never forget one of the things that my dad told me and I internalized was my dad's also a very Long Island guy and I remember he said to me, he was like, I know everything and if you ever have a question you come to me and I will give you the like, I know everything. And if you ever have a question, you come to me and I will give you the answer because I know everything. Okay, cool. And so I think that he was just trying to make sure I didn't act out and go try and,

I think it was well intentioned. Everything my father ever did was well intentioned. But internalizing that and then realizing that he, like any man in the 90s and aughts, like that's like, my dad is a varsity football, baseball coach, and then the culture around us, very like patriarchal, male dominated culture. And I do mean in all ways, as we all know,

but to start to feel like my identity was at odds with what that society was saying was tough. And it wasn't like I could go to my dad with that question because I don't know that in 2004, he would have had the right thing to say. Ultimately he did and was lovely and is lovely and such a supporter and like such a wonderful, lovely man. But it's hard when your parents are supposed to be this thing.

Yeah. And then you realize they're human. And so it sounds like in that story is what happened was not only did you confront and realize your parents humanity, but it was confirmed for you. It was. It really was. And and my parents had marital problems. And I realized, too, it was my mother who had sort of whispered in my ear saying, tell your father that you won't go to therapy without him.

Oh, that's odd. And it was because she really wanted to go to therapy with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was sort of trying to save her relationship. And, you know, spoiler alert, they're divorced. But, you know, that was the beginning, certainly, of seeing them as fallible, vulnerable people, for sure.

And all of that catalyzed by your mom making you read this poem in the car. Yeah, exactly. It's like something was kind of foisted on you in that way. Yes. And I think it's because my mom ultimately is a very liberal and very accepting person. I think she knew who my mom ultimately is a very liberal and very accepting person. I think she knew who I was for long before I did. And I think she knew that I had a father that would be oppositional to that. And I think she was also trying to sort of embolden me and protect me and also literally change him.

And it took a minute, but he is a totally evolved person in that way. He's 88 years old. He was midlife. Yeah, midlife. God willing. I hope so. But like, you know, he like gave a beautiful toast at my wedding. And, you know, I mean, like he has really come around.

It's lovely to see people change, sure. But men change. You know what I mean? Like, to watch a straight man, like, that's a very, you have to be, and I don't get a lot of credit, but I will say that, you know, I really respect when my dad stands up to his friends who like Trump.

You know what I mean? My dad will give it to these guys that like Trump. Like, and you know, my dad was a phys ed teacher, like varsity sports coach for a very long time, surrounded by attitudes that suck. Attitudes that fucking suck. And it's really hard to be the person being like, hey, knock it off, like care for women,

care for minorities, care for queer people, care for trans people. But there's a lot of people out there doing it. And I think it's important. And I also, I just want to acknowledge that change is very difficult for some people and you do have to be brave. You have to be very brave to do that. You really do. You really do.

And I have to credit the fact that my father married a woman 30 years younger than him. That always helped. After my parents got divorced. And so, you know, she has really helped him modernize. Wait, but can I can I just say that question you asked earlier of when you were asking, what's the age that you wish that you could be? Yeah. My answer is 35. Really? Yes.

Because I got married at 35 and that was such a lifelong goal of mine that I thought would never be possible to be married. I don't know why I had to make it to 35. Yeah. My lifelong dream. And that's on being queer. And that's on queerness.

If I make it to 30, I remember saying that about my mom. Please. The moment I make it to third, I remember saying that about my heart. Oh yeah. Please, the moment I realized I was gay, the moment I remember, I was 11 years old, and I remember the moment, I remember thinking the emotion was abject terror, cause I was like, I'll die for sure. Or like, the world would have totally changed

from what it is right now for me to like, ever be okay with this or tell people about this. Yeah. So yeah, honestly, like you say, like to make it to 35, but I couldn't see 35 for myself because as you were saying earlier, where were the examples of it? Exactly. Where were the examples in media of us? Yes. Yeah. It's true.

I mean, like, so, so yeah, this would have pointed to to have said that, but I, you know, when I was growing up for most of my adulthood, gay marriage was not legal. And it was, I took it so personally because why is that a dream I'm not allowed to have? And so when I finally met my wife, I was 31 and we didn't get married till we were 30, till I was 35 because it literally was illegal because of Prop 8.

And at a certain point, I got so mad that I was waiting for like a lot of change to do a thing that I felt very inherently, you know, wasn't my right, was my God given human right to be able to express my love for another person in front of my family and friends. And so we actually went to New York where it had become legal. We got married legally in New York,

then came back, had our like wedding wedding in LA and six weeks later, Prop 8 overturned. Wow. So you could've waited a little bit longer. We didn't wait for the man. No. Yeah, we did it the way we wanted to do it. That's good.

Yeah, but that was a wonderful time in my life, 35, and just being able to fulfill this dream with this wonderful person, my wife Rachel. And so I would say 35. Okay. I think it's a very, for some reason- You love this age. It's a good age.

It's a good age for you. Well that works out, because it's the age you're gonna be next, right? Yep. I can't wait. November, baby. November, okay. He's my Scorpio child. Oh, okay. Scorpio child. I'm Pisces. Of course you're Pisces., right? I can't wait. November, baby. November, okay. He's my Scorpio child.

Oh, okay. Scorpio child. I'm Pisces. Of course you're Pisces. I'm Pisces. Do you know that Pisces are like my people? Oh, I love them. Cause what are you, a cancer?

No, I'm a Gemini. You're a Gemini! Oh yes, no, but we all get along very well. Well, I mean like Scorpio, like we have our like bang. Well, Scorpio and Gemini, we get a bad rap. I think Scorpio and Gemini is really because everyone clutches their pearls when we tell them who they are.

And we're like, it's not. Calm down. Yes, you're right. You guys are the ones that get the big reaction. Yeah, we do. And I always get aw. Well, Pisces, I, for some reason, like I gravitate especially professionally towards Pisces.

Silver Tree, a Pisces. I think we have the same birthday actually. Kelly Hutchinson, a Pisces. Yeah. Yes, I mean, Carad Apollo, another wonderful writer Kelly Hutchinson, a Pisces. Yeah. Yes, I mean, Karad Apollo, another wonderful writer on the show, a Pisces. Yeah. Mm. Maddie Dollywale, another writer on the show, a Pisces.

You know what? Your shows are very Pisces. Oh, how interesting. I believe that they are, because it's like with Dead to Me, it's like, which by the way, I actually have to say while you're here, that's gonna be looked back on as one of the great shows.

That's one of the great shows. Thank you so much. It's one of the great shows with two of the great performances. Agree, agree about those performances. I just, I mean, they're so brilliant, but the fact that it's a relationship that on paper on the beginning of the show,

should not work at all for X, Y, Z and beyond reasons. But it's just the connection and the empathy that they have for each other. Cause that's really what it's based in is empathy. That's very Pisces. It is. Well, I feel like you guys have a very similar- Scorpio Pisces is everything.

You guys have a lot of empathy for each other. And I think that's what I'm talking about when I see like there's that warmth between you. It's an irrigated system. It's water kind of like the pipes are working. We're a water cycle. We condense, we precipitate. Okay, yeah, we're mixing metaphors, but it still works.

I get them still. They're mixing, but I'm liking them. You know why that happens? It's because I often don't understand the metaphor. No, I don't quite stick the landing on the metaphor. I don't know my words, but I do know my heart. That is one of the most Pisces sayings, and it's my saying.

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And I Don't Think So Honey, to sort of break it down, is a 60 second segment where each person on the podcast, its host and its guest or guests, goes off for 60 seconds on something in pop culture that absolutely needs a dra-dra-dra-dragging. And I sat in the car, we were just driving back from our shoot. And I said I had something and I'm gonna do it. This is something that is in the culture

and it's remained, it's not as big as it used to be, but I still, it's more personal. Anyway, here we go. Okay. This is Matt Rogers, I don't think so honey, his time starts now. I don't think so honey, Cameo. I can't, because here's the thing,

it's not that I don't like it as a service. I do think so honey, like everyone, like getting money from Cameo, doing it, participating in it. Whenever I get a Cameo gift, I can not watch it. I'm too embarrassed that the person is talking to me. Like if I ever open a Cameo like years ago, you got me one for my birthday

from Sandra Diaz Twine Survivor icon. And I literally had to watch it in pieces like throughout a couple days because I couldn't believe she was talking to me. It's so intimate, Cameo. I don't think so honey, you're looking at me in my eyes through the phone. My friend Nico got one from Tom Sandelvolve the other day

and I've never watched it because I can't watch Tom Sandelvolve doing cameo. Too embarrassed, like it's like, it's just, it's something. I don't know what it is. It's like when the culture awards happens and people send in their videos. There are ones I have never watched. I just can't.

I don't think so, honey. Celebrities, live your life. Don't think about me. Don't talk to me. I'm on cameo for $35. Nico got one for Tom Sandoval to talk to you. No, it was Nico's birthday a couple of weeks ago and he was sent one from Tom Sandoval.

And I was just like, I saw all my friends talking about it. And I was like, I can't watch it. There's something about, because I've gotten them from like housewives before, because those are fun ones, because you know, they're all on camera now. And you get it and you're just like, oh, like, I don't know, like,

what they're told to say to you in a way that they're- It's a little humiliating. It's not personal, it's literally filtered. And so maybe it's that I think I'm wasting their time, but then again, it's like they're getting paid and they're getting paid. Yeah. The cross section between vulnerability and inauthenticity. Yes. Correct. Because like it is vulnerable because you're like they need thirty five dollars.

So you know what I mean? It's like getting fucked with a bag on your head. Oh, yeah. Exactly. You know what I mean? It's it's it's. Don't totally get that. But yes, again, I don't think I understand my own metaphor. It's intimate, but it's like, they don't know who you are, what you look like.

Yes, and they're like saying things about you and it feels a little patronizing. Oh yes. And also, but like, because you're an empathic person, you feel a little bit like embarrassed for them. By the way, I used to do cameos all the time. I was gonna say, he's been on. I used to make money doing cameos,. By the way, I used to do cameos all the time. I was gonna say, he's been- Well that's interesting.

I used to make money doing cameos, especially during the pandemic, because you could just sit there on your phone, you're made of nothing but time, and just cameo, cameo, cameo, cameo, cameo, cameo. Like that's not it. It's specifically the act of receiving one. Now that I've done this on the podcast,

I'm gonna get tons from my friends who like throw 50 bucks. By the way, it is my birthday. So that's true. Now, now it's really going down. If you had to get a cameo from somebody who was. Yes, it would be a housewife. If I had to get a cameo from someone. Well, you know, I got a cameo from poverty a really long time ago from Survivor.

And now she's our pal. So I guess who's the housewife I can't really go up to because I'm just too scared. You were quite brave with the housewives. You're braver than I am. Well, I've been on Watch What Happens Live with a bunch of them, but I don't know. It's like maybe one-

Lisa Barlow. Lisa Barlow I've met. Yo, Lisa Rinna. Lisa Rinna. Get me a cameo from Lisa Rinna, I'll be happy. By the way, she and Harry Hamlin have a new podcast and they get into it. Yes, let's not talk about the husband.

Let's not talk about the husband, it's called. Oh, I love that. Okay, so that's mine. Bo and Yang, do you have an I Don't Think So Honey on today? I can't believe I have to follow the two of you. Oh my God. Don't worry. Oh, please. We don't think so.

No, don't worry about it. This might still be a topic of conversation by the time this episode comes out. I think if you're talking about it, then people are talking about it. This is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey, and it's time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, oh, the White Lotus theme song sucks now.

It's not customer service. Let Mike White make his creative decisions. He is at the helm of this hit series that you are privileged to be watching. You're privileged. You are sitting among, you're listening to three people who know the ins and outs of showbiz very well. And I'm sure none of us here have complaints

about the white lotus theme. It's a new take on it. It's gonna be different and it's a new location. As the tagline of the poster says, same luxury, new reservations. Something has to be new. Really good job guys. I'm just happy to see Lisa acting down. I'm happy to see Parker to see-

15 seconds. Parker, I'm happy to see Michelle and Leslie and Carrie and all of the stars of the White Lotus season two. I'm just happy it's back. Oh, I'm so happy it's back. Everyone's moaning and bitching and groaning about the new theme song. It's because the second one was such a bop.

Of course. But they didn't even, it wasn't, here's the thing. It's like, had they tried to make a bop this time and it like kind of flopped, that would be one thing. People would have been even more pissed. But this is just, this is like a score. This is like a different vibe. It has a tie sort of like inflection on it. Yeah. And also the fact that people are even

talking about the theme song at all shows you how powerful the show is. Because when do you ever talk about theme songs? And disdain. I dare you to even hum another one. Like there's there, it's very hard to make one that breaks. Like there's, it's very hard to make one that breaks. Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. That's a 20 year old theme song. We love you, Charitna. Yes, we love you. I'm loving White Lotus this season.

Oh, I mean, we're only one deep though. We're only one deep. I mean, I'm in, I'm in of course. But I watched the first episode twice. I have to say my favorite moment of the whole episode was when Carrie Coon goes upstairs and she's been being sort of left down by the friends and she has that one sob.

I was like, oh my God, that was, and I was waiting for Carrie Coon to Carrie Coon. And you know she's gonna coon out of this. She's to carry down. One of our favorite actors, I would say. She's a very versatile and very effective actress, I would say. She's fucking brilliant. She pierces. Yeah. And I love that whole cast.

I mean, I think it's great. You know who else I'm obsessed with is Amy Lou Wood, who's the British girlfriend? Oh, oh, oh. The younger girlfriend, Rae. She's great, man. I have a Goggins hat. I love it. I love it.

I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. You know who else I'm obsessed with is Amy Lou Wood, who's the British girlfriend. The younger girlfriend, Rae.

She's great, man. I have a Goggins head. I love Walton Goggins. Yeah. I love him in everything I see him in. He's going off. And also to say nothing of Parker Posey. And let me tell you something.

A lot of idiots on Twitter dragging the accent. What? You relax. No, no, no. Relax, everybody. You relax. Oh, come on. You let Parker Posey do her thing. Okay, no, no, relax everybody. Oh, come on. You let Parker Posey do her thing. Okay, Posey's gonna Posey. And let me tell you, what a delight.

She just opens her mouth and I'm like, I'm like smiling immediately. There's something that she can just fucking eat the scenery. I love it. She wasn't the queen of indie movies for not, like she knows what she's doing everybody. Calm down. Like you don't know how to make a choice better than her.

And I would suggest you shut up. Oh! Yeah, we're rewatching Waiting for Guffman. Can you please? If you fucking got. When she, in this last episode, she goes, scratch my arm. Oh, I love that.

That was good, I enjoyed that. I'm like, I wonder if that was a fun run. But I bow down to Mike White. He's so good at what he does. And evidently he does it all by himself, which is so impressive because I need a room full of writers to lift me up and to help me see everything through. So. Brilliant. Yeah.

You know who's going to be on the show in a few weeks? The speaking of amazing actress created by UCB, Natasha Rothwell is finally coming on Last Coach. We are so excited. You're a UCB legend. Huge fan of hers. Yes, she's great. Yes, I love her.

All right. It's time. Okay. So I feel, okay, I hope that, okay. Yes, okay, so this is a big moment. It's a big moment. This is Liz Feldman's I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready?

This is gonna tear up. I mean, I don't know if I'm ready, but it's happening. Yes, you are. Okay, this is Liz Feldman's I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready? This is gonna tear. I mean, I don't know if I'm ready. Yes you are. Okay, this is Liz Feldman's I Don't Think So Honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so honey. The Pete's Coffee Shop moving in across the street from the fancy Starbucks, which is next to the blue bottle,

which is literally also across the street from a coffee bean in my neighborhood. No! Yes, there is an empty, beautiful piece of retail, real estate that could be literally anything. It's going to be a Pete's coffee. Look, I have nothing against Pete's. And I will probably even go there first as I've just experienced to explore, but then probably also just every day cause it's on my side of the street.

But Jesus fucking Christ, how many coffee shops can one square block hold before a fucking sinkhole forms and we all get sucked into the abyss of corporate caffeine driven capitalism? The empire is falling honey. No one needs that many options for where to get a peppermint gingerbread caramel chocomocalate.

Okay, it could be literally anything. Five seconds. It could be a Planned Parenthood, it could be a trans health care clinic or a Xanax store. Yes, Xanax store. I won't because of RFK. Oh, and that's one minute.

A fourth coffee shop. I wish I was exaggerating. A fourth coffee shop in one square block. Can I ask? Yes. Favorite of the four. Yep, that's a doubt. Favorite of the four.

And why is it inserted here? I'm gonna be honest. I walk past all four. However, that's a doubt. Favorite of the four. And why is it inserted here? I'm gonna be honest. I walk past all four. However, like go to a local coffee shop. You're so right. Yeah. And I usually do. I was gonna say blue bottle.

But I like a blue bottle. But it's Starbucks, it's Peet's eventually, but it's Starbucks, blue bottle. What's the fourth one? Coffee Bean. Coffee Bean. I do like a coffee bean. I mean it's a coffee bean,

but it is a coffee bean in a parking lot. It's in a parking lot. Right. Of an Albertsons. Yeah, yeah, but it is a coffee bean in a parking lot. It's in a parking lot of an Albertson's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you guys have Albertson's. That is a big Albertson's, that one. She's a big girl. Big, big girl.

Oh, we used to have Albertson's in Colorado. They're all gone now. I think the only ones that are left are in California. That's sad. Not me mourning. A chain. A chain, after Liz just artfully took down our corporate driven group. I have nothing wrong with corporate entities and I shop at places that are very corporate.

Well this isn't I Heart podcast so shape up. Yeah, no, no, I love you, I Heart, I Heart. But, I Heart, I Heart. I Heart, I Heart. But, I mean, but truly like if you're gonna peel back your efforts to like help people and employ people and protect people then I'm gonna peel back your efforts to, like, help people and employ people and protect people, then I'm gonna peel back my dollars. There you go.

100%. It is egregious to have four on one block. That's crazy. That's silly. Like, when that space opened, it could— We were so excited by the infinite possibilities of bagel store mayhaps. Of course. You know, a flower shop that, like, wraps things.

You love mayhaps. I do. You know what's so funny that like wraps things. You love mayhaps. I do. You know what's so funny? You wrote mayhaps into one of my character's lines. And I had never heard anyone say the word mayhaps before. I love mayhaps. We're connected.

Yeah, we are. Is mayhaps in the show? Do I say mayhaps? I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you do. Yeah. What is it? A mouse?

Per snaps? Per snaps. Per snaps. Per snaps isaps. Per Snaps. Per Snaps is Kelly. Kelly took mayhaps and fucking, and put it on its little side for Per Snaps. But yeah. Per Snaps is mayhaps is like cool queer sibling.

Sister, yeah, definitely. You queer words, and I appreciate that as someone who also does this. Yes, I feel like we are very simpatico. I love wordplay, sorry I said it, but I do. I'm a lady of letters and I like to mix it around and make them sound fun. There was one improv I did that there was like

a tiny little meeting about whether it was too much of a swing and they left it in. Do you know what I'm talking about? Sigorns? We hit a slight snagorni weaver. No. You have to keep it. They were it. We hit a slight snag or any weaver. Now, you have to keep it. They were like, he has to do with the real way because we don't know. But like, we do like it.

And I was like, let me tell you what made it into the show. And let me tell you what made me laugh every single fucking time in editing. We hit a little snag or any we've got a little snag. You get that's and that's an ad lib. That's an ad lib. Man, when he's he's with Ray and they're... Well, I don't want to give anything away for people, but he's with Ray. And there's maybe a room that maybe has a little bit of a stench.

And Ray's trying to say, oh, it's rat piss. And he's like, that's human piss. I know what human piss smells like. I was single once. I loved that line. I was single once as him. It tells you so much about the character. It does. It does.

This has been so much fun. I agree. What an honor. I feel honestly like when I was asked to come on, I really thought I was like dreaming or something. This is like truly, truly a dream. Super honored. I'm a big fan of you both.

I think you're both incredible humans and also just hilarious and a gift. Liz, you're a true culture maker and you literally, I'm so glad we got to talk about the arc of the L word to now for you, which is truly speaking to your impact and the way you put really important things into the world. And I feel like I, this is going to kill me for saying this, but I go on your Instagram and I'm like, oh, thank God we've got like, you're still on it, you're still like out there like saying the thing politically. You do be saying the stuff and it's important.

No, it's important. You say the stuff and I love that you say the stuff. I need to say the stuff more. Both of you are very outspoken. Are motivating me to say the stuff more. I think right now the stuff needs to be said and if we're not gonna say it, who will? Yeah. I mean, and with that, here to make friends, March 14th,

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