Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Down... In... Finish..." (w/ Alison Brie)

Episode Date: February 15, 2023

Take your tops off, readers! Because today Las Cultch is letting it all hang out on an episode with ALISON BRIE! Yes! The writer and star of Amazon Prime's new film Somebody I Used To Know joins Matt ...& Bowen to talk getting physical, getting hurt, getting naked, getting rimmed on screen and getting a perfect husband (who even makes a cameo in this ep)! They're *also* talking Glow, the rigor of professional wrestling, attending a clothing-optional art school, the perfect Ayden Mayeri and the also perfect Molly Shannon, Ferris Bueller's Day Off, sneaking HBO as a kid, The Real World, The Rosie O'Donnell Show, photo booth culture as whore-at-the-party-reveal culture, mini golf, baggage claim blockers and cat haters! TW: the word "hole" is used many times on this episode. Fill YOUR hole by listening to it. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 Okay. It's an absolutely massive hangover. Yeah. Oh. I think it's the perfect balance with the day we had yesterday. Yeah. Or can a 32-year-old man get a hot flash? Is that kind of what's happening?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah, absolutely. It could be. You're hot? I'm so hot. So I'm in Bowen's apartment, and he's downstairs, and I'm upstairs. So the heat sort of rises. And he's already on the fourth floor of a four-story building. So maybe I'm thinking, it's very hot in here. You want to turn on the AC?
Starting point is 00:02:20 No, girl. Are you sure? Because I'm going to use the heat. It's kinetic energy. Yes, but it might wear you out. No, girl. Are you sure? Because I'm going to use the heat. It's kinetic energy. Yes. But it might wear you out. No, girl. I'm okay. Don't you worry about me.
Starting point is 00:02:28 What did we do yesterday? Do you want to tell everyone what we did? We had a full day. We went to Brooklyn Crab, which was my old stomping grounds. And it was very... What's that song? I don't know why I'm frightened. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:40 I know my way around here. Yes. That song. Yes. And you even... By the doll. You told me the bathroom that you would have violent, poisonous shits in. You are such a jerk.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Because- Go ahead, say why. Because you were prescribed a very aggressive Z-Pak. What happened was- And so if there was a period in your life, yeah, you took these antibiotics and they were so aggressive, you had to go to the bathroom. This is why I'm always angry at CityMD and Urgent Care is because they, if you go in and say, hey, I'm sort of feeling,
Starting point is 00:03:09 you can't even finish the sentence. They say, we're going to put you on a Z-Pak. And even if you were just there like sort of a month before and they had put you on a Z-Pak, they at those establishments, which is, I believe you once called it a fast, casual antibiotic restaurant, the CityMD and Urgent Care. Exactly. They'll just put you on another Z-Pack.
Starting point is 00:03:26 So they put me on two Z-Packs in a row. And I thought, I thought I was gluten intolerant. I thought something happened to me. My body just changed. And so I said to Bo and I was like, that was the restroom where that would happen. And you told me that after I had taken a long visit,
Starting point is 00:03:41 that was a true moment. I did feel connected because I looked down at the toilet. I said, Matt has really used this plumbing plumbing i have a lot of formative memories there and i want to shout out amber who was our waitress who was she was the only one on the floor okay and you know it was a gorgeous day in brooklyn and so the place was popping and she took care of us we had two crab royales i was doing my crab cracking for you guys i was really using my skills everybody matt picked up a claw and said this is a dungeonous it's my favorite crap he demoed crab cracking it was so cool i was like i'm at the museum so that was great and then we went to shipwreck mini golf oh that was great rosés were flowing and i made it halfway through
Starting point is 00:04:25 the course before i started sobbing oh yeah yeah it's okay she's still going through it everybody yeah so you know what that happened was we sort of got together to view uh film this morning okay and potentially connect to orgasm in just a second who's just heard about both of our noxious shits that's actually always how i dreamed i would meet allison brie i think it's level setting a really honest candor for the rest of the episode and a friendship well you know what's funny i truly believe this i actually saw allison brie about five years ago at griffith park and i literally was like but i'm not to go up now and say I'm a fan because I think in like five years time I'm going to get on a Zoom with her and my best
Starting point is 00:05:10 friend is going to talk about when I was overprescribed antibiotics and then I became essentially like a shit monster. So this is actually, this is going according to plan. Yes, I agree. But it was a fabulous day. I am hungover as a result. And you're kind of not.
Starting point is 00:05:25 I am. Oh, okay. I am. Oh, but are you hearing about Borgs? What's Borgs? Oh, my God. Borgs are sweeping the nation's college campuses. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:05:35 It's B-O-R-G, stands for Blackout Rage Gallon. And this is the recipe. You fill a milk jug, like a gallon container with half water, half vodka. Then you put electrolyte mix in it, like a liquid IV or like whatever you want. Is that what you just made me? No, you think I would have given you a Borg? Okay, Becca, producer Becca is saying it's crazy. They're their own jungle juice jugs.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Exactly. But you make, but it's, this is the thing. They're hangover proof because you put in water you put an electrolyte mix some sort of caffeine in it as well i think they are truly truly a phenomenon right now and i am curious to try well that's incredible i think i'm actually you know what's happening right now i took three tylenol and so i'm starting to sweat it out so this is perfect this is all good but listen what i was saying was we were watching a film this morning the film is called somebody i used to know and it's on amazon prime now you can stream it you
Starting point is 00:06:29 should stream it so this movie we loved it's vivid it puts you in it yeah bowen and i were saying we loved the turn oh the turn people in the biz know what the turn is and there is a turn in this movie that you don't see coming we loved the turn going into act three is structurally about where we can plot it that's the coordinates of it there's a turn in the movie between our guest's character ali and this man that she's been pining for it's in a bedroom and that's that's all we'll say but it is masterfully executed and we thank you for joining us here on the Script Notes podcast. This is Script Notes. I'm John August. But no, I mean, Bowen, how huge is today? This is amazing. Today is huge. This is amazing. We have loved our guest since the beginning. You know her from being an incredible talent. Oh my goodness. Legendary. Let's just say this.
Starting point is 00:07:24 One of the most iconic characters in television history for me is Trudy. Trudy Campbell. And something I say often to people who cross me is you'll say anything to hurt me. That's I think high praise. I think we're both Trudys. We wish
Starting point is 00:07:39 we were Peggy's, but I think we're both Trudys. Is that because you and I are at all times ready to whip out a choreographed dance at an event? Yes, and I'm holding my gloves always. I'm always holding my gloves. I mean, listen, just happiest season,
Starting point is 00:07:56 spin me round, I mean, promising young woman, community iconically. Horse girl! I mean, on and on and on. Let's go. Just like truly such an amazing, amazing actor, writer, producer. We're so excited.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Please welcome Alison Brie! Oh my God, what an introduction. I mean, it's so earned. I mean, I am so flatteredattered i am so excited to be here i have to tell you both for the first time ever um that i'm such a fan of both of you i am a huge fan of the pod i am like a fire island super fan god wow wow. The Fire Island came out. No exaggeration. I watched three times once per day. Once per day.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I watched it Friday night. It was like, oh, my God, it's out. Got to watch it. Watch it Friday night by myself. My husband's out doing something Saturday morning. He was out again. I was sort of like having like a lazy morning. It was like, yeah, something cozy.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I'm going to put on Fire Island again. I'll just start it. I'll just start it. Oh my God. And then I watched it again. Sunday, went for a walk with my husband. And he was like, oh my God, you watched Fire Island twice? He was like, without me?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Oh, without me. Okay, there it is. He was like, you can fly through this. And he was like, well, I have to watch it. When am I going to watch it now? And I was like, I'll watch it again with you tonight. Oh, my God. It's a good Sunday movie, I think.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's a great Friday night movie. It's a great Sunday movie. It's honestly a great time, anytime movie. And it's truly one of my favorite movies of last year, if not my most favorite. And I also have been doing. I've been talking about it a lot on this press tour because everybody's like anytime you do a rom-com people are like, is the
Starting point is 00:09:50 rom-com back? And I'm like, yeah. Did anyone see fucking Fire Island last year? Allison. So Matt, I want you to know that in my senior year of high school production of Pride and Prejudice, I played Lydia. Oh wow. So I was really connecting you to know that in my senior year of high school production of pride and prejudice i played lydia
Starting point is 00:10:06 oh wow so i was really connecting to your energy two lydia's in the chat there's two ladies in the chat and i really identify with that character as well just being like coming in oh my god yeah coming in with like kind of obnoxious energy and like needing attention and you know prior to dave like just going after the wrong guys oh too impulsively the way art imitates life i'll say that or life imitates art it's both but um you know what's funny is like when it was like announced that i was going to be playing like the lydia comp everyone like on twitter was like oh matt is of course Lydia. Matt is the only Lydia. I was like, okay, everyone relax. I can say it, but you can't say it.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Exactly. Oh my god. Also, Matt, I love that for you. You were so nice when you mentioned it in an article and that was so, you mentioned I love there for you and Fire Island and I felt really moved. That was so nice. I'm leading the
Starting point is 00:11:05 Andrea Risborough style grassroots campaign to get a second season for I Love That For You. Yeah, and all things for Matt. I mean, listen, put that energy out there. Speaking of, Aiden Mayeri very much in this film.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I'm obsessed with Aiden. Dave worked with her on After Party, the limited series of Apple. And here's the trajectory. Dave works with her on that and was like, she's so funny. She's the best. Then Jeff Baina and I asked her to be in
Starting point is 00:11:38 Spin Me Round. And then I got to experience firsthand what a fucking dream she is. She's so incredible and truly spins comedy out of very little you know like and then dave and i were just like can you just can we just roll this along and you'll come do our movie also and i adore her she's the best i mean there's a moment where she's great at just like throwing it away, but it has high impact. There's like a moment in the movie where your character tells her to do something that's very surprising and she just goes, wait, what?
Starting point is 00:12:13 And it's just, it's very Aiden. It's very high impact. She's on a hike or something. She's like, what? What? It's great. Like 90% of Aiden's role in this movie, somebody used to know is over FaceTime and she still gets some of the biggest laughs in the movie. My favorite is there's a scene where she's like emotional on the phone and crying. And I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 00:12:35 I got to go. And while she's crying, you just hear her voice go. Yeah, I have to go too. And that's just her improvising. I don't know. I just love her so much and i love you guys so much oh allison brie and also your sister's with our sister betty gilps betty i mean
Starting point is 00:12:55 my soulmate betty gilpin i love betty so much we talk every day i love her oh my god that is that glow is really this show that like i don't think really portrayed a female former friendship turned into rivalry back into friendship like that is that arc was so perfectly calibrated between you two and you guys were so good in it i thank you so much i loved it i always felt betty and i would always be like the main love story of this show is between these two women and that's always what the show was going to be about and like of course marin is great and there's like will they won't they with that going on but like the heart of the whole show was these two women and i loved it i love how they tapped i mean it's because the show was made by so many incredible women like our showrunrunners, Liz Blahive and Carly Mensch were so great and like so smart. They're playwrights.
Starting point is 00:13:50 The writing was so nuanced and cool, but also they just let us do everything. Like we'd be having, it's like one scene we'd be shooting some crazy screaming match, sobbing, and then we'd be in the ring and I'd be like you smell like butt to me I'd be like rubbing my crotch they really let us improvise in the ring which was so fun. Have you kept up with your wrestling? I haven't kept up with my wrestling per se but I keep up with my strength training I mean I'm super strong I'm super strong. As a result or did you always identify as strong oh my god not always like as a kid not athletic at all like drama nerd in high school not athletic at all and then but i've been training with i have this great trainer that i've
Starting point is 00:14:39 been training with for probably like 10 years but sort of more more casually when i started doing glow it was like okay let's up the ante like we did 90 of our stunts on that show like we actually lifted each other and threw each other and did all this stuff and it felt so powerful and great so i feel like that clicked everything up a notch and then it just felt really good so i just stay have stayed kept up with it for mental health and all the reasons. Oh, that's perfect. Yeah. I love it. Because that was a show, I think Betty was talking about how that show would really just psychically take some sort of expenditure too, because you are just like throwing people down for multiple takes over and over again. Like that has to have some benefit as well as like psychic challenge to it.
Starting point is 00:15:24 You know? Totally. some benefit as well as like psychic challenge to it you know totally it's like we would shoot these wrestling matches for hours you know if you watch a wrestling match on tv or live and those guys are insane like and women like the craziest most amazing athletes they're like acrobats and i don't know they're crazy i mean crazy great yeah yeah but you know their matches are like 11 minutes and then we would just shoot one for like eight hours nine hours yeah yeah and everyone thinks the ring was like padded which it was not although sometimes we do some of the big moves onto a pad because when you're doing it 20 times you're sort of like i got to
Starting point is 00:16:05 protect my body but people always asked if we if we got hurt there were like a few minor injuries on the show but for the most part i would be like of course i never got hurt but it hurts like the day after we would shoot a mess i felt like i was in a car accident yeah you know and it's your adrenaline dropping oh totally and totally. And even shooting it, even just in front of a crowd who are background actors that are paid to be there still was really exciting and you
Starting point is 00:16:33 could feel them even being kind of shocked. Because our stunt doubles would get in, show everybody the choreography and rehearse and they would get to see them do it and then it'd be time to shoot it and we would come in and do it and you could feel the background being like, oh, shit, you're going to do it. Like and then we were like, we're like, like, that's my girl flipping in the air and being slammed down. Like it truly was. I wasn't really like a WWF person.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I just like it. It was a phenomenon when when I was growing up. But did you guys like partake in any of like the watching of the wwf like did you know what the rock was cooking or smell what the rock was cooking rather i mean i hate to admit that not really like prior to doing glow that's totally right it was it's so it was huge it's like so worldwide popular and somehow still sort of niche. Like obviously, yeah, yeah, of it. But I never really watched it. And then, you know, when I read the show, when I read the pilot, I went back and watched a bunch of the original glow, which those are wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So fun. And they're doing sketches and they're like, it's like a wild. Yes. It's a variety show. Yeah. But then once we were working on glow, we went to some big WWE raw matches, like at the staple center downtown and got to sit like in the front row and
Starting point is 00:17:56 watch these people. And then, and it was so cool to watch having like a better idea of it. Cause our coach Chavo Guerrero jr. Was a real wrestler and taught us all the inside stuff like fuck people who think that wrestling is quote-unquote fake because i watched a guy overshoot a jump and knock out his front two teeth and continue wrestling for like eight more minutes like no it is oh my god yeah he wait they didn't fully come out they like went up into his gums his front two teeth
Starting point is 00:18:25 like up into his gums he had blood streaming out of his face he got out of the well first he hit it and fell and we thought that looked too real like normally when they fall they do a big cell right of like ah and he just silently like he was just like really on the ground yeah and then blood started pouring out of his mouth, down his body. And he ate a tag team match. So he like tagged his partner in, got out,
Starting point is 00:18:49 standing right in front of us. I heard him yell to the medic. They're up in there. Title of ep. Oh my God. The medic like slapped him in the face, sent him back in the room by the end of it. Everyone was covered in blood.
Starting point is 00:19:01 And I was like, I'm obsessed with this. This is the coolest thing I've ever seen. Oh my and was it just yeah no it's hard for us like watching that together we were like bonding all took up a full front row it was so fun yeah i mean i feel like you live the dream of working with um a nice circle of people because it's like aiden's been in multiple things with you i feel like you've been in multiple things with Aubrey Plaza. Molly. Yes, I meant to say Molly earlier.
Starting point is 00:19:31 The crossover. I'm obsessed with Molly. Molly and I have been in like four movies together. Oh, yeah. Promising Young Woman, too. Oh, my God. Yes. Okay, wait. Promising Young Woman, Spin Me Around, Horse Girl, the other movie little
Starting point is 00:19:47 hours little hours uh-huh it's because molly and i are like and aubrey we're all like the jeff bain of players that have all been in like four out of five of his movies um that's a good roster i adore molly oh my god molly's energy oh yeah molly she's the best. No, what I love about her is, like, when she gets on set, what I love is just watching her process. I feel like she really loves to, like, physically orient herself. Like, that's, like, her way in, you can tell. It's like, she's like, well, you know, I feel like, you know, my arms, you know, yeah. And she's, like, kind of getting her own body into it. Totally. you know my arms yeah yeah she's like and she's like kind of getting her own body into it and it's so you know what's with her it's really hard to talk to her without talking like her
Starting point is 00:20:30 like sometimes oh my god i always i'm like molly isn't that funny don't you think that's funny because that yeah you're so funny that's hilarious wait you think that that's so funny i love that molly's enthusiasm is totally real. And like, but she'll, you'll be telling a story and it'll come in like, you'll be like, oh my God, Molly, I have to tell you a story. And she'll be like, what?
Starting point is 00:20:54 What? So yesterday, I was at the supermarket and she'll be like, you were? And you're like, yeah, but that's not, wait, that's not, I'm just gonna set up. That's not like the funny part of the story. I don't know if it's so cool that you were there. Oh, my God, which market? You were at the market?
Starting point is 00:21:09 I love going to the market. Tell me. I'm glad that you said that about getting to work with great people. I think it's a big part of why I've been making my own work more and more. Like, Horse Girls, Bigger Round, somebody I used to know are the three films that i've written and produced and so cool it's great to be on that side of it getting to put people together i mean when dave and i were putting this movie together we definitely were just like we just want to hang out with our friends and also with people that are good people like we want everyone to be super
Starting point is 00:21:40 talented of course but there are so many talented people in the world how about there's no assholes how about we just get people that are like also really good fun people and then the whole energy on set is going to be fun and positive and it really was it felt like a wedding yeah weekend uh because you guys would you guys shoot in washington in in like the bulk of the movie in Oregon, kind of in and around Portland. We had, so we had shot Dave's directorial debut, the rental in Oregon,
Starting point is 00:22:13 kind of on the Oregon coast. And then we finished it doing, I don't know, five days in Portland. And we sort of set this movie in the Pacific Northwest just to get back up to Portland. Cause it's such a great, so great.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. The people are great great the food is excellent it's like an amazing music scene all of that stuff um and beautiful so we set it in loving worth leavenworth washington uh and we just shot like our last three days up in washington in leavenworth which is actually looks like christmas all the time. And is this like Bavarian style? I was like, where is this? Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:22:49 yeah. It was real. It's so beautiful. It's one of those towns, this movie, like where it looks like you could like eat the, like the building, like every building is a gingerbread house.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of that, that vibe of like, it's so idyllic. And there was always just like a gorgeous mountain and then all of a sudden they're tubing in the river i'm like okay where and because i've been thinking like you know when you get to whenever you're going through your
Starting point is 00:23:16 downs in life you're like i have to get away and where i've been picturing in my head to go recharge is literally what was in that movie. Totally. How do I get there? Nature. I mean, first of all, it just adds to production value also.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Cause you turn the camera any direction and you're just like, Oh my God. Yeah. Wow. But I, I hadn't thought about it when we were writing it, but we wrote it during COVID lockdown in 2020. And I,
Starting point is 00:23:42 part of me does wonder if kind of what you're saying, it was like us writing our fantasy of like and then we'll be tubing down a river and then we'll be at a reindeer farm like out in life it felt like such a fantasy of course by the time we shot the movie it was fucking freezing we were like oh really oh sure and then they're like action and you stop everything from chattering and your little labia then they're like action and you stop everything from chattering and your little labia folds up inside your body and you deliver and hayley joel went right in the river so that had to be very cold for hayley he had to go all the way in but we put him in like
Starting point is 00:24:17 sort of a full wetsuit it did he that was real commitment hayley joel's incredible like i mean he's so funny he fully commits he's amazing truly you know we wrote in that the character was doing the worm in that one scene and then we'd never even talked to him about it and like the day before we were like oh hayley um can you do the worm we never asked but do we could maybe put a different dance move if there was something else and he was like i've been watching videos online and practicing in my hotel room and i taught myself yesterday and i think it's gonna be great and he does such a good job and he actually dislocated his hip while doing it no no he did it so many times for so long i know poor guy but he's okay oscar nominee oscar nominee i mean never forget no i
Starting point is 00:25:01 mean that is so fun to get a dislocated because you think like it's like oh what project did you injure yourself on what project did you injure your hip on dislocated your hip somebody i used to know yeah the most physical role of my career that action movie somebody i used to know well it's an allison brief set you know people are getting bumped and bruised exactly you gotta go full in. Physical. Physicality is important to me. She saw a wrestler have their teeth go up and then they're gone.
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Starting point is 00:27:06 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I felt too seen. Um, dragged. I'm NK, and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying, and I was inconsolable. It was just very big sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong
Starting point is 00:27:35 with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case listen to basket case every tuesday on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts i've heard you talk about how well for spin me around spoiler there's this big crazy orgy scene
Starting point is 00:28:19 that's all we'll say but like i remember you talked about that scene in an interview you were like it was shocking to like show up to set that day even though i wrote this yeah this thing the set piece but it's like it's i think it's so cool that you get to honor the process of writing it separate you're not like thinking ahead and i think that's good i think that doesn't hamper the writing process itself because then like you would just limit yourself as you're coming up with ideas or as you're putting words on paper, right? Sure, totally. I mean, it always fascinates me. I mean, and I'm so new to writing and just have done these movies over the last like five years, I think. And it amazes me all the modes of the process. Like when you're writing it it you're visualizing something right you
Starting point is 00:29:05 feel like okay i have this clear vision and all three movies that i've written were then directed by the person that i wrote them with you know so you're sort of like yeah we're locked in on kind of what this looks like and then you cast it you get to set and all the actors are bringing their perspectives and that's really fun and opens it up in a cool way of even stuff you know the way each actor thinks about their own character is going to be so much more specific to them and and nuanced in a way than even we've been thinking about the characters while writing them so i kind of always love that that watching the actors bring stuff in and ask questions that you're like oh i never even thought about that that way like yeah and then watching things come about like yeah that orgy scene it's funny it's wild so jarring like to see so many a room full of so many naked people
Starting point is 00:29:57 like faking sex acts specifically is a jarring thing to to witness in person and on the one hand it was so like beautiful because all of these italian background actors just were so joyous and like having a great time we cast all um couples like they're all they were all real life interacting together already knew each other um and were like comfortable with having a great time. We cast all couples. Like they're all, they were all real life. Oh, interacting together already knew each other. And we're like comfortable with what they were doing. And we basically said, just do whatever you feel comfortable.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Like we didn't go around to each couple and be like, you'll be relating him and you'll be taking it from behind. You know, we were sort of like, we've kind of put everybody just around the room. Dealers choice. Except that like, you guys have to be standing. You guys have to be on the couch whatever you come up with great
Starting point is 00:30:48 and everybody was still comfortable really going for it in ways that i was like whoa um which it was it was so much to take in and i felt very grateful that everybody was kind of giving us their all in a way yes and the funny thing to think about is actually that by the time we were shooting that scene it was so toned down from like the original draft when jeff and i are just really fucking around well there were some really specific things we wrote that then even when it just came time to like send the script out to actors like i actually think the role that aiden played there was a line in the stage directions early on that was like so and so like pops out from
Starting point is 00:31:34 eating his asshole and says blah blah blah and like truly as we went to send it out we were like maybe you know maybe we'll just make that a little more vague let's get the thesaurus out okay rimming not eating his asshole but i do appreciate that on the page it said eating his asshole eating his asshole but then like you don't realize when you're writing something that if you write down eating his asshole you will get a call from someone who's like so what are you thinking about for the asshole do you think we see it do you like it is a call it's a call it's a call but it's also like a call from someone's manager being like hey um we want to talk about the so sherry's uncomfortable eating asshole yeah like what exactly are you hoping to show um and then exactly all the stuff of like so should we place a fake asshole over the real asshole are you hoping to see whole and we're like we don't need
Starting point is 00:32:32 to see whole we don't need to see whole um i actually shot a scene that got cut from this movie i did years ago called sleeping with other people that Leslie Hedlund directed. Oh my God, yeah. Such a fun movie. So in the movie, it's like me and Jason Sudeikis. It's kind of like a play on one hearing with Sally, like we're not going to have sex with each other and just be friends and we're having sex with other people. And my character has this sexually obsessive relationship with Adam Scott, who's this sort of sociopathic doctor.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And there's a scene where I come to his office and we have sex on his desk. And at the start of that scene, we're making out, then he like flips me around, bends me over the desk, pulls my skirt up, pulls my underwear down in the stage directions, goes down on me from behind, then flips me over and we have sex. So two things. One, the day that we shot that scene the camera's doing this move around the front of the desk so you're not seeing it's like you see from the side maybe you see a little of my ass as he's you see what's going on then it pans around to the front so it's just on my face as he goes down behind me and yeah it was so hot on this stage that we were which is such a nightmare you're like so sweaty
Starting point is 00:33:45 and gross being like this is gonna be like in my butt cheeks um yeah so i had like nude underwear on a nude thong under like my lacy character costume thong the idea was like the thong would get pulled down but the underwear underneath would stay on right we did three takes total the first two takes everything stayed where it was supposed to the third take everything came off and we both just things just proceed obviously you know adam scott's not getting touching fully i think it's more like forehead to cheeks you know and yeah and my face i don't know what happened but leslie hedlund comes running in and she's like well that was the one oh my god it seems so real it seems so real i've heard of this happening like my i have a friend i won't say who because he's not sharing the story but
Starting point is 00:34:39 i will share it for him anonymously he was doing a sex scene with an actor that he had kind of been like flirty with yeah sure and they were it was a long day because like it was like an involved sex scene oh my god and you're getting multiple angles yeah and so ultimately like a third of the way into shooting it things like because i've only worn this once actually in fire island it's that like weird little sock and then there's the there's the strip that goes over your whole it's like a like a tape that sticks to like the top of your ass so that yeah it's weird it's like it's like a codpiece and then a thing they have this for women where it more just you tape it kind of above your pubic hair in the front then it goes all the way around and there's like a little heart that tapes above your butt it's a little heart yes it's actually
Starting point is 00:35:29 adorable it's super romantic it is because it folds that's nice it's cute oh i kept it can you imagine i reuse mine on every job i have the same one it's my security blanket um no but this guy was saying that like it was like a third of the way through them shooting this and it was falling off and the other actor who again like i think they ended up fucking afterwards sure he was like i think we should just not i think we should just get rid of it and and the guy was like okay so then they literally just shot that like pretty much just like kind of not doing it but like not not not not smushing genitals they were smushed right not insertion but like smushing was happening it was frauding it was
Starting point is 00:36:13 fraud we're gonna say they frauded i get that those little things like you always end up sweating them off because you're so nerd like you you have all this adrenaline from shooting that kind of scene and even and i'm like so comfortable clearly with nudity and even with scenes like that like i actually always think it's funny how embarrassed actors get about it and i'm kind of like whatever just another scene who cares like the stakes feel to me just as high as like a super dramatic scene where i want all the emotions to flow perfectly versus a sex scene. But the last thing I'll say about the Leslie Hedlund movie Adam Scott scene is then they cut
Starting point is 00:36:50 that part out anyway because everybody thought he was eating my asshole and apparently audiences did not. They did not. They had very strong negative reactions. I'm about to ask this to me. Of course. I'm asking a silly question potentially. Was this before intimacy coordinators?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Like, was this a time when they were on set? Way before. Yeah. Okay. Way before. Yeah. I mean, intimacy coordinators are so new. Like, we didn't have one on Glow until our third season.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Really? Hmm. Yeah. And then, of course, I had already shot my most graphic sex scenes like season one yeah oh sweetie your guy my pal which actually did make me a little nervous it was my first time doing like full nudity and then they were like oh he cast rich i was like oh great that's so nice it's a person i know and a second later i was like no yeah that's the thing i mean i think he'd be comfortable with me saying this at this point but the guy i was doing the the sex scene with in fire
Starting point is 00:37:50 island zane we were dating at the time and it it and it made it a little weird weirder the layers on it there's layers you know what i mean and then like i remember the intimacy coordinator came in and i've shared this on the podcast but my involuntary response to some questions she was asking i started crying i was really nervous and also that it was like this the content of the scene was you know it was edgy and you know it was very complicated and complex and your character gets taken advantage of and you're unaware that this other thing and so it was weird it was like she asked she was like it's very that thing you were saying she was like how are you feeling about the scene i was like you know i can't wait let's do it right let's just get let's do it i heard it's like fight choreo right it's like very blocking it's like and then she goes right and then she goes well
Starting point is 00:38:36 how do you think your character feels about the scene instant sobbing i was like i'm so sorry and i was very accurate i feel like i have to honor this emotion and I'm sobbing and I love that for you though I literally asked her I was like do people do this like do they break down she goes it happens way more than you think and people wouldn't admit
Starting point is 00:38:56 but it makes sense see I feel like it's like crazy to think that we didn't have intimacy coordinators for so long because it's so nice to have another person didn't have intimacy coordinators for so long because it's so nice to have another person there to talk to all this stuff although as i say that i i've maybe never worked with one because uh on i just would always i'm too comfortable you know sure sure because it was mostly on glow where by the third season of glow, I was so tapped back into my true nature, which is loving nudity and being really open about that stuff.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And it kind of became a running joke where they kept asking me if I wanted the intimacy coordinator, but for scenes that I was doing by myself, like no joke, there was a masturbation scene that actually ended up getting cut. Also, these audiences need to stop reacting negative to you getting your nut can they let me get my nut hello but it made me laugh that the scene was like me in a t-shirt and shorts getting under a comforter putting my hand under the comforter
Starting point is 00:39:58 totally alone and they were like do you want to do you want to see the intimacy coordinator i was like i don't know to choreograph my own like hand and myself no i'm okay to do it by myself there was on on horse girl and i guess horse girl was sort of pre-intimacy coordinator yeah right before yeah and but but i felt like i had an awareness because i had written that and I was a producer on it. I was really taking all that stuff so seriously. And I became your own coordinator, essentially, which was strange because we shoot this super, like that's the weirdest sex scene I've ever shot.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It's like a dream sequence sex scene with these two different actors, John Reynolds, who plays my love. We love John Reynolds, Matthew Gray, Goobler we've known john for years john was like a brooklyn comedy boy with us like we've known him for years and years and years so funny such a sweetheart he's so good yeah he's great he's so funny and he's very like channeling like young judge reinhold oh sure there is something
Starting point is 00:41:03 yeah that's great there is something like vintage i hate that word yes it's fast times it's like i've always tried to put my finger on on him because he's amazing in search party and there is this like nice i don't know like patina to him he's so lovable and he has kind of like a breathiness it's almost john hughes too you know what i mean it feels of that era you know it's like that he would have fit right into that coterie yes totally but it was so funny to me to like i'm the person then taking him aside to be like okay so in this scene um that we've just rehearsed you know you're gonna unzip the back of this suit and i just want to make sure that you know
Starting point is 00:41:42 that when you pull the suit off of me i'm not wearing a bra underneath and you'll see my my breast and at that time if you feel comfortable i think you could put a hand on my breast and i would feel comfortable with that if you feel comfortable with it but also you absolutely don't have to and he would just be like yeah i feel comfortable with it sure um but the way is are we talking too much about sex scenes no i love it please tell the readers are gonna be reading they're doing a close reading of this episode all that we were gonna talk about but i didn't realize how many great stories i have about this i love it so on horse girls so the scene is it's like becomes a dream sequence right where it's me and john reynolds we're kissing the way we wrote it
Starting point is 00:42:25 is sort of like they sort of start to have sex and then he turns into matthew gray goobler who's playing like my favorite actor on a tv show that my character watches and now we're in this dream sequence and then a bunch of other weird stuff happens so we had planned this elaborate camera move and then of course immediately on the day realized that like we don't have a budget to do like we're like oh yeah we don't have a fucking crane that's gonna like pan over this actor's back like we were gonna pan over their back so it was like well we'll shoot with one actor we'll all take a break we'll shoot with the other actor and we'll just hide that it looks like one shot but it's not really so then of course on the day we're like oh we can't do that it has to be one shot
Starting point is 00:43:01 so jeff bainer who's directing is like okay i figured out how we can do it he goes we're gonna push in on you guys on the bed like you're laying oh my god they're gonna swap out oh no we're gonna do a cowboy switch oh my god so we're gonna push in so we're tight on you and john reynolds we'll get all the way close up on your faces he'll kiss down your body then matthew will kiss your body and you'll like do the rest of the sex scene to completion so we start to rehearse it we start to realize like okay so they both have to be in the room at the same time not only that but you can tell when if one of them gets off the bed for the switch the whole bed moves so that's off the table everyone has to stay on the bed so it's a closed set we've got jeff baynett with a monitor in the room with us and just like the camera guy
Starting point is 00:43:53 and the focus puller that's it and me and these two guys i'm topless here's what would happen they would both start on the bed matthew's off camera but his hand is on john's back like ready to tap in wow it's truly oh my god then john would lean against the wall like a child who's traumatized tuck his knees into his chest like avert his eyes and me and googler like finish faking sex through an orgasm it is the craziest i was like i've done sex scenes with people before but never in front of my other love interest like simultaneously and jeff is in the room queuing everything because it's all timed off the camera so it's like it's like a closed set with nobody around great everyone's like comfortable and cool. And Jeff's there going,
Starting point is 00:44:46 John down. Matthew in finish. Like it was like, it was just the fucking weirdest. Down in finish. Title of app. Down in finish. Title of app.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Down in finish. Classic down in finish. Classic down in finish. So I'm, Down and Finish. John Down. Classic Down and Finish. Classic Down and Finish. So I'm proud to pivot to this movie. I'm proud that all the nudity in this movie is non-sexual nudity, which I'm very into. I want to talk about this before we ask the question. Yes, Bowen, bring this up. I just like it being a celebration.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I really, really loved how nudity in the, so not to give away too much, but it is through this nudism theme and sort of like character trait in this person who, but it's so delicately, like the crumbs are left so nicely for the audience. Like you hear it once in the beginning. Thank you. And then it just all kind of organically, beautifully unfolds and it just ends in such a nice earned way. And I didn't realize that this was part of your own personal journey that like you kind of have this engagement with, I guess nudity or maybe even nudism as a thing. Is that fair to say?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Yeah. I mean more nudity and not nudism. I've really never been to a place it's not like because i've been talking a lot about my my college like pension for nudity but it wasn't like i was like going to class naked and just like of course the naked guy which we did have the naked guy who was like at every school function in tennis shoes and a necklace so the origin story is that i went to cal arts for college and while i was there um clothing was optional everywhere but the cafeteria that was the policy and actually i was really respectful because i want also it's a great school it's a great school yeah and i always want to be like i don't know if it's that way now this
Starting point is 00:46:41 was like 20 years ago um but i was doing these interviews and the other day in the middle of some junket the like sound guy was like i actually know someone who teaches there right now and it's that's still the policy really wow um i love that because it was always just about it's an art school okay so they have every dance a fine art painting graphic design film music all that stuff so like it was more about i think letting the students just have full freedom of expression yeah and it was not uncommon to see somebody doing some art installation on your walk across the campus where they're naked and they're painting their body in chocolate or something like that and there were big parties like the halloween party was a
Starting point is 00:47:25 big deal at cal arts even my freshman year they had a springtime party called the erotic ball that then got canceled for being too risque but that was a lot of people going in you would just wear pasties and underwear and like boots you know what i mean like and i would streak from time to time and make my friends laugh and i like to streak and i just liked the whole culture of of that openness and kind of like my character in the movie i feel like i had this journey with nudism and and my own comfortability with nudity like when i first started acting on camera in this industry i was got really afraid of doing nudity on camera and i'm glad i sort of was like i'm open to doing it but it has to be the right thing so like early on in my career when i was doing like b horror movies or whatever you know i was like no i'm not gonna pop into that
Starting point is 00:48:15 show and just be like the topless girl that had two lines on that hbo show or whatever yeah betty talks about that concept in her book too and i I think that's so interesting, like through an actress's perspective, like being able to finally even know the difference between like, what feels like what's being commodified and what feels like freedom and what feels like your choice and what feels like their choice, you know? Totally. Yes. And you have to think about, I keep feeling like I'm making myself sound so old, but like, in the time that I was at CalArts even to then working on community uh we witnessed like the birth of Twitter and things like that like that didn't even exist like when I was in college from 2001 to 2005 like people had flip phones people
Starting point is 00:48:59 were not so like even the nudity at CalArts was it was um protected yeah it's just for us no one's gonna pull out their phone and film me I mean I did probably take some I don't know what photos exist from like the photography students tasteful ones tasteful ones but uh what's the thing I feel like actually those probably would have surfaced by now if they existed um but like I think there was this knee-jerk reaction to the internet, right. Of me being like, Oh wait, like I, you know, I knew a friend of mine who did nudity in a movie and now a screen grab from that was in an issue of playboy and they're allowed to do that legally because it's not your property now that it's in that movie.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Like all that stuff really scared me. And I also think it was also a time in my life where I was hating my body like i do think that was part of it too i was protecting myself by being like i i don't want to do nudity for the wrong thing because i also just felt unattracted you know it was an insecurity there's nothing like uh starting a career on camera to like make you hate yourself and hate the way you look don Don't even get us started. Break down every time I see everything for the first time. Complete meltdown. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:50:08 So I had to really wade through that for years and kind of felt, yeah, really protected and really like, I don't want to do some nudity in something and people just don't even have to watch the thing. Like they can just Google it and go whatever. Like I'm not doing it for those people it's about the art blah blah blah so then cut to glow and when i read the pilot for glow to audition for that show they had a big all caps announcement that was like must be comfortable doing nudity for all of the women on the show. Everybody, it was like, which I appreciated very upfront about it from the beginning.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Like this is a non-negotiable for this show. And by like my, you know, I auditioned maybe four times for that part. And by like, after maybe the first two auditions, as I was starting to really test for the role is when that conversation came in with my whole team kind of calling me to be like, hey, this is the point where they really want to make sure
Starting point is 00:51:04 that you know that you are going to have to get naked on the show and they want you to know that you're comfortable with it because they don't want to do more auditions if you're not okay with it and i asked if i could get on the phone with liz and carly our showrunners and talk to them about it they were like absolutely yeah yeah and i more just honestly i read the pilot it was so fucking good. And I got it. And I felt like it all made sense. And I already really didn't have a problem with the nudity. But it was so nice and refreshing to talk to them and have them say, look, this is a show about women's bodies in every way that we can explore that.
Starting point is 00:51:40 And we just want the freedom to show women changing in a locker room and to show women having sex and everything in between and not shy away from it and we're never going to exploit you we're never going to do it in a way that is male gazey or anything like that and then i feel like working on glow kind of reconnected like as soon as i did that first naked sex scene in that first episode I was like oh yeah yeah I love being naked I love my body it's empowering it really was and by season three there's a scene where it's me and Betty and you know we're in Las Vegas and I have this scene where I like put on a show girl headdress and take my top off and do this like topless dance to make Betty laugh. And I actually watched that episode with my mom. And my mom was like, that's my Allie.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Like, that's my daughter. That's you. That's your energy. Like, it was such a relief to be like, yeah, that is my natural energy. So I feel like that journey is in this movie like and by the way already this morning on twitter i saw someone turning me topless just into a meme or a gif right i mean sure okay sure yeah whatever that's the weird part about the streamers of it all too though is people like they can just like scroll on the bottom with scary movies i do this
Starting point is 00:53:05 sometimes like i'll just scroll through the whole thing to see when something scary is going to happen or like whatever but people can treat streamers that have nudity like that you know what i mean in that weird way which is another weird thing about now versus then right right but in a way i think and i also even had these conversations with jeff baina because i did you know some nude scenes in horse girl um and he was like i don't know i sort of he sort of led me back to even being like well don't give those people the power to change fundamentally who you are and how you feel about this kind of thing like none of us can control what fucking creepy people on the internet are doing or saying and i
Starting point is 00:53:46 don't even want to think about it or tap into it at all i gotta just live by like by choosing i guess to be in this industry in any way part of us goes i'm gonna have to be okay with people saying whatever the fuck they want and i'll go about my business in a way that's true to me and that's the best i can do and don't just try not to look at any of that stuff ever and live my life and everything's fine. Yeah. Right. But thank God for Glow. I mean, there's nothing like you being comfortable with being naked around other women in a very protected environment and doing it, you know, maybe not over and over again but like feeling safe for that long
Starting point is 00:54:26 is enough to deprogram all of that shit in your head from before and that's that's amazing like i i hope i wish that for everybody yeah totally it was very safe feeling and then you get to the point where like now now it's like you were saying you're kind of like assembling your own people so you're creating your own healthy atmosphere and that's like you know that's that's something that you've obviously earned in your career and that's like a really kind of cool place to be i would imagine that's just it's so the difference between being on a set where even one person is like toxic and i'm certain you've been there okay like that's the cool thing about i would imagine like being the writer producer and you know dave being the director is that you guys
Starting point is 00:55:11 are obviously on the same page not only in your life but now you can be professionally too and that's just a gift to everyone totally well that's what i was gonna say i mean have many thoughts on that but first of all on something like this when the director is my husband too it's like i know that i am safe is the right word i think and dave i i felt this way on the rental which i have had no nudity or sex scenes or anything in that but like working with dave the set is such a safe space for actors because he's an actor yes he understands the actor's psyche. He wants everyone to feel comfortable and collaborated with, and everyone has a voice and he's going to check in with everybody to make sure that they feel good. And then also he has amazing taste.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Like he makes really beautiful things. He's never going to leave something in that feels false or is unflattering to a person's performance or anything like that. Yeah. It's the beautiful thing of working with Dave is like the safety I feel just knowing that the product itself is going to be amazing because I know what a strong vision he has for everything. But also in spirit, Dave and I are the same, which is we love being on a set. We want it to all be positive and fun.
Starting point is 00:56:22 And like everyone's having a great time and feel supported and seen and all that yummy delicious stuff so it's great i will say whenever i'm on a set with there's something about having the one villain on a set that that the only silver lining to that is it unites everybody else yes you have the common enemy and i don't know do you feel this way like i also feel like my behavior gets better when you watch someone just being like such a jerk a selfish jerk right that you have a sense of like you maybe you come in and you're like oh oh my god i hate what they're trying to put me in today and then you watch someone have like a full toxic meltdown about some costume and you go like
Starting point is 00:57:05 i'm fine with it i don't it's actually not that yeah the real housewives of salt lake city are back i love that oh my gosh welcome and last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted! Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends! How could you do this to me?
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Starting point is 00:58:51 And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks, a million I've got you's, some very urgent I'm coming overs. Because I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are opening up the friendship circle. To you. Someone's cheating? We've got you on that. In-laws are in-lying? Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Toxic friendship? Air it out. We're on your side to help you with your concerns. Talk about ours. And every once in a while, bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us. While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts we have to ask you the question because the question is the centerpiece of the show we must know and the readers have to read about this Allison Brie what was the culture that made you say culture was for you okay oh my god guys i've gone around around and
Starting point is 01:00:08 around in circles on this one because i just feel like the answer for me could go a million directions there were so many and that's things fueling that yes but you know you referenced john hughes earlier and i'm gonna actually say, I'm trying to think of the earliest spark of things. Yeah. I'm going to say it was watching Ferris Bueller's Day Off on HBO. I'm not that old. I was probably three years old when Ferris Bueller came out. It's not like I was seeing it in the theater or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:00:43 But HBO in the late 80s like that but like hbo in the late 80s early 90s is my jam i would just come home from school put cable on we had fucking hbo yeah watch everything but like my earliest memories of even wanting to be a performer like as a kid i was such a ham and always kind of like like little performances for my parents and our neighbors and things like that and i vividly remember me and my sister and our couple little friends would reenact this scene from ferris bueller's day off where the principal gets to the house and the sister gets to the house at the same time and they both think that they've caught ferris bueller but neither of them does and the scene goes like this they're on either side of like the kitchen
Starting point is 01:01:31 door and they hear each other and one of them goes ferris and the other one goes bueller and then one jumps out and goes ha and the other one jumps out and goes yeah and then she goes kicks him in the face three times it's like she goes running up the stairs we would replay like take turns playing either role acting it out showing it in front of our parents and then i feel like we spun that off into doing snl style sketches for our parents like that was just it was just part of like oh i love performing i want to say this exactly the way she said it we're gonna react it cadence you know like the cadence is the same i'm gonna kick my leg at the same it was like the way that people like dub smash stuff now but we didn't
Starting point is 01:02:15 have any of that uh technology we would just have to rewind and like play the video again i mean on hbo we couldn't rewind so i guess that's my answer for now but runners up include yes let's hear them runners up include early seasons of the real world on mtv which like watched the first couple seasons that were probably so boring like a real docudrama yeah oh my god people in a bath talking about being bisexual for an hour you know it was just like it was truly just people sitting around talking but loved it also possibly controversial the rosie o'donnell show not controversial major major oh my god we used to my best friend from elementary school, we would write letters
Starting point is 01:03:06 into the Rosie O'Donnell show. I feel like her fake obsession with Tom Cruise. We were too little to know that there was a closeted thing happening. We were just like, she loves Tom Cruise. We love Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 01:03:22 He's a cutie patootie. It was the era of cutie patootie it was the era of the koosh balls it was John McD it was the big K ads the thing about Rosie's show which I loved
Starting point is 01:03:37 it felt like a late night show in the day because she was for real funny and she was relaxed and like really I mean I'm speaking to the audience but like still kind of doing her thing you know I mean I do still kind of love Rosie
Starting point is 01:03:53 O'Donnell she's recently been on the L word she was in the league of their own she's great oh god and then I just had one other one but now I forgot it well I meant the league of their own the reboot at you no no no no she's in the reboot that's what i meant yes i'm sorry of course no no of course she's in the original but like she's in the reboot and she's like it's a perfect little way that they like you know cameo her but they give her like
Starting point is 01:04:16 a really meaty part i love that also in the original she's like of course of course oh she's so good i mean rosie is so talented i mean that's the thing too is like people forget about like her as like a broadway like musical theater actress like that that obsession that she had with musical theater and with truly like what was happening in new york like she truly would be like okay here is an episode of my show where like the guest is i don't know juliana margulies or someone huge on TV at the time. And the performance at the end is going to be like- Sutton Foster, literally.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Here's Sutton Foster. Here's LaChanze. Here's like something that's happening at La Mama. She would pull something from like off, off Broadway, experimental stuff. And she'd have people do a song because she genuinely was curating like a show that she liked and it was like in that way she had to help so much theater and there's no one doing that now i mean you know what that's what i like about seth meyer seth is doing he had titanic on his show actually the night i was on and i thought that was so cool because yeah yeah it was and i got to like do a bit with them but
Starting point is 01:05:22 it's like that was really cool because people don't really shine a light on theater that much anymore, like on those big platforms. It's dumb. Oh, my God. Wait, sidebar about daytime TV. I'll make this the quickest. But Matt, I know that you were on Kelly Clarkson recently and you guys did not sing together. You were like, I don't want to do that my first time.
Starting point is 01:05:43 And I was just on Kelly Clarkson. Isn't she the best? She is the best. And it's so fun to do interviews with her because she's like, you don't even feel like you're on a talk show. She's actually just genuinely talking to you. I feel like I didn't tell any of my stories. I mean, I did, but you just ended up talking.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Anyway, so the second guest on my episode was Michael Bolton. And he is a huge fan of hers. And they sang together. And I'm sitting there on the couch and I don't know if they kept this in the episode or cut it, but I thought about you. I had talked to her about how I used to have like this cover band and I used to sing. So she's singing. How am I supposed to live without you with Michael Bolton and they're harmonizing and belting and they get to the final notes of the chorus. How am I supposed to live without you with Michael Bolton and they're harmonizing and belting and they get to the final notes of the chorus
Starting point is 01:06:26 how am I supposed to carry on and I come in I lean in on the couch and just go when all that I've been living for is gone and Michael Bolton straight turned to me like what the fuck but Kelly was like yes
Starting point is 01:06:41 they had to keep that they had to keep that oh thanks you guys but I thought I would never in a million years Kelly was like, you know, they have to keep that. They have to keep that. Oh, thanks, you guys. You do. But I thought I would never in a million years, like earlier on the couch, we were talking about this cover band and she was like,
Starting point is 01:06:54 so you sing? And I was like, but don't ask me to sing right now. No, I know. Meltdown. But then I sat there being like, what, I'm not going to, I'm not going to take the chance
Starting point is 01:07:02 to jump in on one line with Michael bolton and kelly clarkson are you no that is i mean like the thing like she had pink on the other day and her and pink like sat and bowen did you see this i did not you would have gagged because she loves pink and kelly and pink are like both like you know kind of stood the test of time pop stars but from like back like i was thinking the other day like pink has been around remember the song you make me sick i want you in a hand and remember that song and there you go looking pitiful oh my god but like it's like these are old and i was watching these two and they were singing pink's like early cuts and they were singing it together and i was like
Starting point is 01:07:41 oh god like and just to hear how good they are and you could tell they like didn't really rehearse they just intuitively know like kelly's just like i'm just gonna jump on the harmony line and they look each other in the eyes and they just know what to do what riffs to do and it's just like these are two monsters of vocals so pro like that's something i could never i i can learn a harmony and hit it like with lots of practice no i cannot just hear a harmony and jump in and belt it like it's really good at that it's pretty incredible no no no no i have the ear i can't like execute all the time but anyway that's not true and he's also like a countertenor bowen has such power he like it comes up through his feet the pelvic floor of doom i call him oh no no no no in many
Starting point is 01:08:31 ways allison do you remember what vinyl she gave you what vinyl kelly clarkson gave you yes she gave me the black keys oh damn you know it's alright she gave Bowen Bruce Springsteen no no no it's just like I don't dislike Bruce Springsteen like how could you same no shade to the black no shade to or Kelly
Starting point is 01:08:58 or Kelly oh my god definitely not but I was like huh but that means she thinks you're cool that means she thinks you're cool yeah she thinks you're cool as fuck yes because like black keys is such like a it's it's like a swing but you would only take that swing on like this is a gift for a cool person and she's a cool girl you know a vinyl no matter what is actually a really chic gift no matter yeah i think it's such a cool thing to be in the back you really can't
Starting point is 01:09:25 go wrong because it can be decorative it can be something that you actually play and then like if an artist has made a vinyl of their album it's probably like it's got to be good in some way like a classic thing we have a record player and it's nice to add something to the catalog to the crate might not have bought right so we just have that now and maybe you'll pop it on and be like oh wow oh wow and also listening to something on vinyl not as much but kind of like when you go to see someone in concert like you're always gonna love it i mean i guess it's not the same it's a ritual but it's it's ritualistic like you're going through the steps yeah yeah yeah my friend came over like
Starting point is 01:09:59 i guess it was like six seven months ago and um he broke my he didn't break it but like six, seven months ago. And, um, he broke my, he didn't break it, but like, I can't get that. You know, it's a lot of, there's a lot of setup with the vinyl. It's like the string has to go around the thing.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And it's like, it's kind of precarious, but, um, I'm going to somehow restore that. And, um, I'll get back to playing Casey Musgraves golden hour and no time.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Great vinyl album. The only bummer about vinyl is that it's so short. We're used to playlists now that just go on forever. Endlessly. Especially when you have someone over to fuck. Low-key, you put the vinyl on and you feel chic, and you're like, oh yeah, the record's
Starting point is 01:10:38 on. And then you're in the middle of the throws and it's stopped. It's right about to rim, and then it's like full of silence and you're like oh I don't want to hear this let me cease rim so that I can go I don't want to hear this nobody wants to cease
Starting point is 01:10:54 rim mid rim no no I'm certainly not eating asshole you need a soundtrack to it do people not say eating asshole do people not say that you think nobody says the whole they should but i love that you keep throwing a hole in there i love that you throw a hole in there end of sentence i learned a lot from this podcast you guys taught me what
Starting point is 01:11:18 bussy we did and i recently passed that info on today oh great yeah i actually think you did i don't think so honey yeah i did and i a, I don't think so, honey. Yeah. And I was like, you don't think so? No, I don't. I don't like saying it. Like with sometimes during sex, like people will say,
Starting point is 01:11:33 like people will talk about pussy and I'm just like, I'm sorry. I can't with pussy. And I haven't changed. I still can't. And I won't. I think that's great. You should stay true to you. Know myself.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yeah, know yourself. Nobody's trying to change you. Only when it's in Merriam-Webster will you accept it in the throes of passion, I think. Am I speaking for both of us when I say we have a crush on your husband? I feel like Bowen, we don't.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Of course I do I've actually had a crush on Dave Franco For years He was in a sitcom Like the first thing he ever ever ever ever Ever did He was in a sitcom where he played like the assistant Do not disturb
Starting point is 01:12:18 Do not disturb I know all of my husband's credits Were you a Dave Franco fan prior to Husband? Oh my God! Oh my God, is he there? Can he cameo? Shouting from the bottom.
Starting point is 01:12:31 He just walked in the door as I said that and goes, why are you guys talking about Do Not Disturb? Because... Come give a cameo wave. Give cameo.
Starting point is 01:12:41 No. He's not going to be able to hear us. He can't hear us. He can't hear us. He can't hear us. But tell him that I reviewed Do Not Disturb for the NYU newspaper. I think it was my freshman year. And I said the highlight was cutie Dave Franco back in the day when he was a twink. Here he comes.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Honey, Matt reviewed Do Not Disturb for his NYU newspaper. You're not going to be able to hear them because they're in my ear. And he said the highlight of Do Not Disturb for his NYU newspaper. You're not going to be able to hear them because they're in my ear. And he said the highlight of Do Not Disturb was Dave Franco. We had a crush on you, though. I mean... Here, take one of the ears.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Hi, Dave. Give me a couple right there when they share the buzz. Oh, this is beautiful. This is a great picture, readers. Very kind of you to say that about Do Not Disturb. That was a show where we shot seven episodes. It got canceled after three.
Starting point is 01:13:28 So you can imagine how popular it was. Well, I'm one of the dozens that watched it. That's very, very sweet. We love the movie, Dave. So good. Thank you. Thank you. I'm sure she told you very effusively that we loved Fire Island so, so much.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I can't believe you guys watched it. No, of course not. That's so nice. I mean. We adore that movie. We adore rom-coms. But, like, truly on this tour, like, when we've been talking about the recent ones that we love, it comes up in every single interview. Bravo to both of you.
Starting point is 01:14:02 I mean, you guys subverted so many things about rom-coms in this. It's such a beautiful, I mean, the turn in the movie, we're not going to spoil it, but there's a turn with Jay Alice and Allison in this room. It's so beautifully executed. So well shot. I mean, great job. Thank you. That means so much, truly, coming from you guys.
Starting point is 01:14:20 That's so, so sweet. Crushed it. I'm going to let you guys be much loved you I'm such huge fans of both you Allison is a super super fan of your podcast stop embarrassing me she's been buzzing
Starting point is 01:14:35 leading up to this angel both of yous it's giving star energy and also the picture of the two of you is really... I bet the wedding photos are sort of hanging up on the wall. The wedding photos are good. Yeah, those must be good.
Starting point is 01:14:52 You know, I don't even know if we printed any ourselves. I actually framed a bunch for my family for Christmas. And when I go to their houses, I'm always like, why didn't I do one of those for me? Look how good that is. I know. It's kind of one of the perks, right? Of having a hot husband.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Having a hot husband and being hot yourself. It's like we get to take a chic wedding photo. That's why you hired a photographer. Yeah. Right? It's true. I just did. Here, wait.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Look, there's a photo right here. I just had a party for my 40th. And it was like having a wedding pretty much where i was like i'm getting a photographer we're getting a photo booth look at these oh i love oh see what i'm so sweet you guys that's why you gotta get a photo booth that's actually rule of culture it's rule of culture number 60 you're gonna party i couldn't agree more it's something fun and then everybody gets a fun souvenir yeah and it's also it's community building to sort of like gather around the photo booth and be like okay what are we doing now
Starting point is 01:15:51 sometimes they would be using props are we serious or are we smiling some of my favorite pictures from the i love that for you premiere party i have really good shots of like me and aiden and me and punam like me and vanessa like that were in the photo booth. And why do I have that? Because there was a photo booth. Exactly. I feel like also what's fun is that when you host a party, then afterwards you get the link to see everybody's photo booth pictures from the night. You get to see like all your friends and how drunk they were.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah. Who was being a drunk whore? Yeah. I just love getting pictures of my friends and their husbands who are like grabbing their ass like assholes yeah don't forget the hole get a lot of photos of finger up the asshole at my party come on come on just because Trudy Campbell is such an icon I have to ask like do you have any like favorite memories
Starting point is 01:16:40 from Mad Men which is the greatest television show of all time thank you well you know yeah so many good memories i mean that was really my first sort of big job on tv that was concurrent with community airing wise yeah like because yes but mad men started earlier probably like two years earlier because i remember that was like your that was like a big moment like when you were were on both, it was like, boom, boom, boom. Yes. Which is rare because also, you know, all of the networks get so weird about you being on other shows. So there were a lot of rules, you know, I w I was recurring on,
Starting point is 01:17:15 I had been recurring for two seasons on Mad Men and I was doing like six out of 12 episodes. And then I did the community pilot kind of without telling anybody and then people kind of flipped out from Mad Men and I think they were like well if she can't be because they were like normally the networks would only let you do three episodes of recurring on a show or a different network and the the Mad Men team kind of flipped out and they were like if we can't get a six episode guarantee then you're never gonna be on Mad Men again oh god i had this moment of like what have i done yeah then well but then what ended up happening is matt weiner the creator like wrote letters and i
Starting point is 01:17:57 believe he did this honestly every season to our producers on community like and to nbc at large being like here are all the um nbc people who have uh guest starred on other shows more than three times wow john ham on 30 rock and so there's i mean that was in the family nbc but it was it was sort of like look at all the people from mad men who have guest starred on nbc stuff that's what it was john ham on 30 rock did more than that episode and anyway they always got me out to do it. So that was like really exciting. But I realized I didn't answer your question. The thing I remember most when I think of the show is honestly the costume.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Of course. I was assuming that for some reason, because it is so- Oh my God, the fittings. Jamie Bryant was the costume designer for Mad Men and she's so fun. And it was like the highlight of my time on the show would be my fittings with her.
Starting point is 01:18:46 She had such a specific vision always. And the Campbell's should have full boards with like inspiration boards. And we always talked about Campbell blue because the Campbell's we were like a real jewel tone family. So we wore a lot of Campbell blue and green actually brought out my eyes and vincent kartheiser's eyes like it kind of looked like brother and sister yeah it was kind of perfect casting i i had great hats that were like incredible and so strange so that's the highlight for me i just did molly i was like you did you had really good hats you did really that hat feel of this hat so such a great hat i'm like we're
Starting point is 01:19:27 living for that hat i was thinking about that hat the other day because i was wearing a hat it was well you know what i just realized bowen that we have iconically done is that we have yet again right before a huge cultural moment, recorded the episode before. So what I want to do is predictions for what Rihanna is going to do at the Super Bowl. Is she going to throw a curveball? Are we going to get, we found love? Are you doing a Super Bowl thing, Allison?
Starting point is 01:19:58 You are? Dave and I are just going to watch from here. We like to watch football together alone so that Dave can explain to me everything that's going on and why I should care about it. And you can sort of explain Rihanna to him. Exactly. He's not familiar. This is what I wrote down
Starting point is 01:20:13 for our little pool that we have in our friend group. We have a pool for what she's going to do at the Super Bowl. Okay. I'm sure I'll be dead wrong. I wrote down in no order. Umbrella, diamonds needed me because I was like like i was looking through anti and i was like is she gonna do work maybe i don't think she's gonna have drake there i think that would be a little loaded don't need it well um so that that's my that's my anti thing i don't think
Starting point is 01:20:36 i'm right on that but whatever we found love i did stay from unapologetic you think she's gonna give a ballot i think she's oh sorry diamonds is from unapologetic too You think she's gonna give a ballad? I think she's, oh, sorry, Diamonds is from Unapologetic too, and I guess Lift Me Up, I don't know. But this is exciting, like, there's no way to be sure. You don't think we're gonna get Oh Na Na, What's My Name? I don't think she likes that song. Really? Whoa. I think the songs with Drake features on
Starting point is 01:20:57 them are a little loaded, maybe. I get it. Yeah. Definitely a tard. What about a Rude Boy? Oh, I would love. I would love that. If she threw Rude Boy in. I don't think we about a rude boy oh i would love i would love that if she threw rude boy i don't think we're going to but okay well let's pray for rude boy hopefully it's some combination of that but yes we have iconically done the episode before the super bowl so that is why it was not discussed today who do you think she's gonna bring out if no drake do you know what i think would only happen at the super bowl like obviously she can't bring kanye out but if paul mccartney came out for four or
Starting point is 01:21:29 five seconds i think that could happen like that would be if they're ever gonna do that song live it would be at the super bowl right yeah yeah wow but then would it make everyone nervous that kanye's gonna come out you know what i mean i mean i'm gonna be on edge we don't want people on edge no the last thing we want is people on edge i'll never forget how nervous i was when lady gaga jumped and caught that ball i was like do not drop that ball hun that was bravery and boldness right there to say i'm literally gonna catch my breath away yes my breath away it It took my breath away. It was shock and awe. It was shock and awe. She was giving shock and awe in that moment. I was very impressed. And every day of her life,
Starting point is 01:22:09 to be honest. True. Bowen and I's dream is that she flies a fighter jet as she's singing Hold My Hand. At the Oscars, yeah. She might. She might do it. They're just going to cut away. We're like, why isn't Gaga there in person? And then they're going to cut away. She's thousands of feet in the air she and tom cruise fall out of a plane while she's singing
Starting point is 01:22:32 it she's in his arms oh my god he pulls the cord as she serenades him they they fall they land on a motorcycle she unclips the parachute and they drive off into the sunset wow screenplay is being written the performance is being written and dave's gonna direct dave's directing i'm gonna produce this for the oscars there was that year that whoopi goldberg when she hosted came down from the ceiling as the team from Moulin Rouge and she said I am the sexy beast it was the year sexy beast came out oh my god I love sexy beast and anytime Dave and I are laying by a pool I always try to do the
Starting point is 01:23:14 opening like shaking, brawling it's like a sauna that's good oh my god he does my favorite thing that and the train spotting. Every so often I also like to whip out a like,
Starting point is 01:23:29 choose life, choose a job, choose cereal, choose cartoon Sunday morning. Do you consider yourself an accent queen? Because you're an accent queen in GLOW too. Thank you. I used to be much better at doing accents like right out of theater school is really honed in
Starting point is 01:23:46 on my voice work your oral posture yeah but I do low key love to do impressions and I actually think I'm quite good at it I bet my favorite person on Bachelor in Paradise
Starting point is 01:24:02 or stuff like that like for my friends I will do impressions of every character on Bachelor in Paradise or stuff like that. For my friends, I will do impressions of every character on Bachelor in Paradise and we have fun with it. Yeah, to be fair. To be fair. That's not Bachelor in Paradise. That's Love Island. Sorry, wrong reference, Al. I was just silent.
Starting point is 01:24:18 You were giving me your character in the movie silently staring to get me to say more. It was the same as when I got my black keys on vinyl. You were like, uh-huh. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Well, I don't think so, honey, that I did that. And, but I do think so, honey, that it's time for I don't think so,
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Starting point is 01:25:15 And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping October 22nd, just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you.
Starting point is 01:25:34 Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your Halloween season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's
Starting point is 01:25:53 urgent, and tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, October 22nd, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting starting on October 22nd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I felt too seen. Um, dragged. I'm NK and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable.
Starting point is 01:26:31 It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with.
Starting point is 01:26:56 But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case listen to basket case every tuesday on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts so this is sort of you have to explain it to me but if you like to explain it every episode oh well we tell everyone again and again it's our 60 second segment that we do on this podcast and um i have something as of yesterday actually bo really okay so this is um a fresh one barely ripened this is matt rogers i don't think so honey as time starts now
Starting point is 01:27:38 i don't think so honey when a mini golf course is doing the most yeah when a mini golf course is like really it's like it's like impossible and you can't even get par you're like how are you going When a mini golf course is doing the most. When a mini golf course is like really, it's like, it's like impossible and you can't even get par. You're like, how are you going to get a part two on that? Where you have to jump over a river and get in a Lady Gaga plane and fly over the Oscars.
Starting point is 01:27:55 It's crazy. And then we went to the shipwreck yesterday, which I appreciated the production value. I do think so, honey, when there's sort of a native of Red Hook in the video, sort of doing an IRR mateyy it was pirate theme 30 seconds like sometimes these holes to say the word holes again are really too tough and i also don't think so honey maybe mini golf in general as an adult
Starting point is 01:28:15 because you sort of get the vibe that like people aren't can't really get on the same page about how seriously we're taking it right sometimes people are like flopping a little bit in mini golf and they'll just pick the ball up and be like, whatever. And I'm like, well now what am I writing down on the card? And I don't think so, honey,
Starting point is 01:28:29 that I'm the scorekeeper. You know what I'm saying? Five seconds. If I were a scorekeeper, let's be for real. We were both scorekeeping and we were on different cards, Bo. Sometimes we're on different cards.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Sometimes. I don't think so, honey, that I left me on the same card as you. But I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. I did feel it was unfair that we were on different cards. You were supposed to be my sister.
Starting point is 01:28:44 We were drunk. Why are we on different cards? We were supposed to be my sister we were drunk why are we on different we were drunk and like why are we writing down numbers and keeping track anyway allison it was a mess it was a mess and i only made it through half i i really i i had to go into there if you ever go into the shipwrecked mini golf course in red hook just know there's a bathroom there i sobbed in it for an hour i agree with you about people not being on the same page of serious gameplay like as adults why you know i've been to like a game night at a bar with some people but i'm like a little stoned just laughing and having a fun time and the table i'm with is like allison get it together god damn it yeah i want, I've been known to, uh, I've been known to bomb some real,
Starting point is 01:29:25 like, like Pictionary or stuff like that, because I think that adult gameplay means we should all be a little stone. Yes. Just having a fun time. Is it giving stoner? Yeah. Period.
Starting point is 01:29:36 I like that. It really is. Lovely. Very much so. And super into mushrooms these days as well. My mushroom gummies by my side. Oh, yesterday,
Starting point is 01:29:44 probably part of the reason I was sobbing, but, but the mushrooms were really popping off yesterday in red hook oh yeah the shrooms hit yeah for sure okay that's a good positive development to know that allison brie is giving stoner oh yeah i love that i do think so honey it um boniang who's very good at games and trivia not true we're actually going to play we're going to be playing games today instead of watching the super bowl we're going to sort of like not be watching football because we don't have a day franco to sort of explain it to us totally so it's just going to be a bunch of gay men sort of sitting around playing games and then orion is on we'll do that and then we'll see where it takes us but um bo do you have i don't think so
Starting point is 01:30:23 honey i do i do it's gonna be a little seinfeld just to like warn you guys it's gonna be about like in that it's about nothing no and that it's about air travel okay so i think he's one of our preeminent air travel comedians what is the deal with planes that's that's a classic line is listening lauren michaels is one of our biggest fans of the podcast and he listens to every episode because he's obsessed with Bowen and he I just wanted to hear. Now he knows that I'm great. I'm a great impressionist. Yes.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Just happy to like happy to come on. Bachelor in Paradise sketches. Absolutely. All right. Bowen Yang. This is your I don't think so honey. Your time starts now. I don't think so honey. People who block the view at baggage claim. Get out of, honey. People who block the view at baggage claim. Get out of the way.
Starting point is 01:31:08 You're blocking the flap. I need to have eyes on the flap at all times. You cannot break my view. God give me the grace, the patience, the coolness to stand far away from the flap. Because I unfortunately am the person who has to stand by the flap and I wish I wasn't but I don't have time. I need to get out of there. But there are some of these people, they must be
Starting point is 01:31:32 they must not have a care in the world if they're standing on the other end of the carousel. I go why aren't you at the flap? Is something wrong with you? But then I go something's wrong with me because I'm at the flap and I'm up in arms every five seconds when some person trundles over and blocks my view and i have to go and intercept their view it's like so involved it is my super bowl every time i check a bag
Starting point is 01:31:58 i am maneuvering and drawing things on the chalkboard in my mind. That's one minute. I have to say you wouldn't like me around a carousel because I'm stand, I'm stand, I'm at the, I'm at the thing where it comes out. You're standing right up on the thing because I want my bag and I want out of there. I was just going to say people can't, I can't when people are pressed right up against the thing
Starting point is 01:32:20 where you just even have it. Sorry, that's my bag. Gotta get an arm in. Excuse me. Excuse me. Like, just stand a couple steps back give it a little breathing room that's all I'm saying until you see your bag that's when you step forward when you see your bag when you see your bag
Starting point is 01:32:36 are you a delta queen you know a little bit a little bit there's no wrong answer you don't have to be a delta queen i rotate delta american united you have an open relationship with delta yeah i'm kind of like in a thruple with it's a quadruple with american and united and delta that's very chic i fuck united sometimes yeah i text united to come over yeah united is getting better well there was a little more um well i would say like delta what i love about the delta app is they'll tell you when the bag's coming
Starting point is 01:33:11 out yeah that's nice love those girls and they're it's always right too like your bag is now arriving you look up it's there it is oh my god i didn't even realize that that is a great feature i'm one of the best features i gotta get it's actually rated one of the top features uh by elastical tristess um just always educating me we're happy to do it all right so wow allison brie this is your i don't think so honey or do you have one ready to rock and roll i have one i'm ready to go. This is something I feel very passionately about. This is exciting. So, this is Allison's I Don't Think So, Honey. Her time starts now.
Starting point is 01:33:51 Okay, I Don't Think So, Honey. People who hate cats. It's so 10 years ago. Alright, first of all, if you're allergic, fine. I hear you. But why do you have to be like, I'm a dog person, not a cat person. I hate cats. It's not one or the other. why do you have to be like i'm a dog person not a cat person right it's not one or the other you don't have to choose a pet like i love all animals also it's because
Starting point is 01:34:12 cats have been totally villainized in the media since we were little kids yes cats only belong in movies to sad cat ladies and fucking straight up super villains or cats are the villains themselves right like fucking in every movie cats are terrorizing sweet dogs don't get me started on lady and the tramp yeah okay an american tale we love fievel but the cats are literally representing nazis like also there's a million dog movies every christmas dogs get a dog's life a dog's purpose a dog's purpose too starting starting betty gilpin cats get cats the musical with a never before seen butthole cut i don't think so honey there we go and that's
Starting point is 01:34:52 one minute that is a huge one and thank you for shedding light on this thing they have been villainized in media and without us really realizing they've been villainized and victimized and they needed a champion and they got one today. So congrats, cats. I'm here to report that people who say they don't like cats, they just don't know cats. Agree. Our cats, we are cat people through and through. Our cats sleep in the nook of our arms.
Starting point is 01:35:17 Our cats follow us room to room. I call Odin, he comes crawling over. Like people think these are dog characteristics and they're wrong also guys it's i feel like i'm doing like a two minute i don't know no but this stuff seeps into this is real like any hotels airbnbs they say pets allowed and then you call and say great we're gonna bring our two cats and they go oh sorry oh no we don't know then use language better discrimination use language better use language better yeah and we How about that? Use language better. Use language better.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Yeah. And we'll give that dogs are the most famous pets, but the second most famous pet is a cat. So when you say pets, what are you talking about exactly? Right. Like you're going to exclude that whole half of the equation. Just say dogs allowed. Or what? You think people are bringing their birds?
Starting point is 01:36:02 Like you think people are bringing pigs and monkeys? I think there are some freaks out there that are grow up grow up get a grip and they're allowed and they are just allowed but cat owners are shamed oh my god can we just point out this cat gouda in the movie and somebody i used to know we knew the name of the cat gouda guys gouda was a star gouda was his real scene stealer that cat we loved when the cat would just spike the camera would look at camera
Starting point is 01:36:28 the cat would just sort of look in the camera and we were dying we literally rewound like several times because we had every scene with the cat
Starting point is 01:36:35 was huge and I do mean huge the cat was so big he's so big he's a nice big cat because we named his character Harry the cat
Starting point is 01:36:44 is named after our old cat Harry who was like 18 pounds. I love that. Harry. Rest in peace, Harry. Rest in peace, Harry. But now we have Otis and Max. And just to bring it back around,
Starting point is 01:36:56 final thing to say on this topic, which I touched on briefly moments ago, but since there's been so much asshole talk. Yeah. Yes. Have you guys heard of the of the cat's butthole cut that was never released yeah yeah we've heard of this now now do we think that exists is that sort of like a thing that's out there or is it an urban legend what's going on
Starting point is 01:37:18 do you have the answer i think there is it's sitting in in a VFX person's hard drive. I think it exists. Somebody's got it. Somebody's got it. Yeah. I mean, the best thing about that movie is that it's just Judi Dench's hand. Human hands.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Human hands. It's Judi Dench's human hands. All pat. And then just her human hands. either they forgot she's got a full ring on it's like we need to see less of judy dench's hands in the movie and much more cat cgi butthole i feel it's also ian mckellen walking into a scene and and randomly possibly improvising touch wood as he touches a wooden beam that's worth a rewatch oh that's excellent touch wood and then continues talking and you're like wait what why who where you notice these
Starting point is 01:38:15 things and how and how last movie i saw in theaters before the pandemic cats we watched it during the pandemic and dave and i just got so fucked up we like drank two bottles of wine and smoked a joint while watching it we were like just cross-faded while cats flopped absolutely and i will say just to um co-sign this this notion my cat journey has been to really dislike them in my childhood because i was allergic i am still allergic but growing up if as you get older you really do like look at a cat and go wow that is a special creature here's the thing it's like people who don't like cats it's just laziness like they're like come around unconditional i don't do anything this dog just right cats like have actual personality
Starting point is 01:39:02 i mean i love dogs i'm not trying to keep throwing shade at dogs but like cats have real personalities they exist like let them kind of exist and you get to know them and you earn their love and you have an actual relationship with them and they're like cool and intelligent they're not like bitchy and aloof they're just like cool yeah they're unbothered they're unbothered i love cats now i really do themselves oh is what can we do to sort of make sure you don't have an allergic reaction around a cat is there a pill you can take is it a lactate situation it's not an allergy shot but i do hear it's like gnarly brutal it's just like it takes so long you have to get like a shot a month or like i don't we just talk to someone about it and it's like i'm done we just talk to someone about it who did it and it's like
Starting point is 01:39:45 i'm done being allergic but they're like it takes so long because if you miss a shot you have to like start the shots over but you have to do them every day or there might be a pill too like an allergy pill it's like prep take a claritin it's like take a claritin take a claritin i just want a hypoallergenic cat with dog-like features. Some dog-like features. It doesn't have to behave like a dog exactly, but I have a friend, I have many friends who have cats who are just puppies in their soul. And it's lovely.
Starting point is 01:40:14 That's the ideal animal. Yeah, a cat that has like a puppy. So Becca, producer Becca says, I hear there is a dander spray you can brush onto the animals that helps you with allergens. Oh, so you brush the child. That's interesting.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And then you don't have to take something. You just give them a little. Sure. Keeps their dander kind of calm. I hope they like that, though. If they're uncomfortable with the spray, then I wouldn't want to do it. Well, right. And the thing about cats is they have no voice.
Starting point is 01:40:40 They're actually voiceless. So you'll never know. But I do. Do you think that meow is the best or what? the cat meows oh my god i said this is incredible i'm not kidding you guys our cat otis meows back when we say his name we go otis and he has a really high pitch and he'll just be like oh that's good meow is the best sound it's very cute i'll take a meow over a woof any day truly when i when i hear woof i sometimes feel very jarred it's very cute i'll take a meow over a woof any day truly when i hear woof i sometimes feel very jarred it's like when the zoom starts recording and i go this meeting is
Starting point is 01:41:10 being recorded it's like oh my god it's like so scary the only thing scarier than that is woof i feel oh my god yeah woof is like you're yelling meow is like you're serenading me i've never had a cat wake me up in my building I've had every dog in this fucking building wake my ass up when I didn't want to be woken up oh yeah we used to have a couple yappy dogs that lived across the street and the owners I don't know it was like
Starting point is 01:41:34 they were never home and the dogs were just locked in like the front most room facing our house barking all day but they moved but they moved well I mean the good news readers is if you want to see an incredible cat and a great film to boot you
Starting point is 01:41:50 can watch somebody I used to know it's streaming now on Amazon Prime and it was co-written and stars our guest Allison fucking Brie just know this was such an aspirational really moment for us like ever since Betty was on the show and
Starting point is 01:42:06 sung your praises up down all around we were so excited to meet you this was such a blast to have you on well it is so so mutual I feel like I'm really glad that none of us forced it ahead of time it organically happened exactly
Starting point is 01:42:22 when it was supposed to happen I didn't run up to you and david griffith and i'm really happy because i would have been a crazy fan but next time i hope you will i will absolutely i'm knowing and i'm running up and jump into my arms yes we go off the cliff oh my god that's how we go oh thanks so much for having me, you guys. This was so fun. I love you both very much. Oh, we love you. This was the best. Listen, Bo and Yang, we end every episode with a song.
Starting point is 01:42:53 We do. That's right. And I have a song in mind. Go on. I'm connected to you. From the film, Somebody I Used to Know. You ready? Mm-hmm. Do-do-do, do-do-do-do, do-do-do-do-do-do.
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