Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Drink Juice and Spill Tea" (w/ Rachel Bloom)

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

Family is back on the pod after 7 and a half years! It’s Rachel Bloom! And she’s got notes on her last Las Cultch episode. Matt and Bow catch up with the star of Netflix’s Death, Let Me Do My Special, which is out now! Also, Rachel’s daughter’s Drag Race werkroom entrance is debuted, Bowen demands a female Siri, and the takeover of the word “gaslight” is discussed. All this, how all children’s TV shows are a hallucination, entertainment journalism then vs now, “PacSun Santa”, anxiety on nomination morning, “journal about it” as advice, squirting, postpartum anxiety, what happens when death becomes real, rowdy teens in children’s parks and Whitney and Barbra finally get their Iconic 400 flowers. Forgetting that was not right, and also not okay! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Las Culcheristas! Ding dong! Las Culcheristas calling! Tactile as ever, I think. Yeah, I will say Matt kind of webbed hand. Feeling very connected to you today, and as of late. I'm calling. Tactile as ever, I think. Yeah, I will say Matt kind of webbed hand. Feeling very connected to you today and as of late. I'll always, but like, the sisterhood is really strong.

The sisterhood is real. I mean, let's just set the tone. Matt just got off a red eye. I'm kind of running on poultry sleep. And not that this was like labored for us, but like, it's our guest. We have to show up. When family comes through, you show up for family. And I believe that's the Olive Garden slogan.

You show up for family. When family comes through. When family comes through. That's rule of culture number 27. The Olive Garden slogan is, when family comes through, you show up for family. I think that is so true. And let's just get right into it,

because our guest is someone who figures very, very heavily into the lore. We talked about this a lot the time she was on. I mentioned this in whatever, the most recent big, long, extended interview, where it was Michael Shulman, legend, and he was just talking about this time in my life, and I was like, I think I want to go to med school, but I don't. For The New Yorker.

And I was like, Rachel Bloom took me go to med school, but I don't. For The New Yorker. For The New Yorker. And I was like, Rachel Bloom took me out to a gastropub outside of USC and told me, maybe you shouldn't do that. Maybe you should actually do comedy because it's what you love. Maybe become the star you've always meant to be. And that's what she said that day. She looked at you and eyes and said,

you were meant to become the star. Was this before or after we had our iconic Vapiano? This was before Vapiano. This was before we were still in school, because we went to USC for the Fracass Improv Festival. And this was the Rachel kind of plant of the seed crystal or whatever. That's not an expression, but. Can I say an expression I'm starting to hate? Well, here we go.

This person is mother. It's so dumb. So like in that moment, like it was true. And also it's become true for her in real life also it's become true for her in real life. It's become true for her in real life. She is mother and her little daughter is writing song parodies, Apple Don't Fall Far From the Tree. Very that. She has, there's a song called Spooky Scary Skeletons. And now, speak on that, now this little girl, literally little girl, Little girl?

Wrote a song parody called Poopy Little Skeletons. Poopy Scary Skeletons. Her mother's daughter. Let me tell you, already blue as fuck. Her father's daughter, Dan Greger, don't forget the legend. I mean, what is there to say about our guest? She is truly, oh my God. Were you at Showtune Sunday on Fire in the Pines this summer

when they were playing CG? Oh my God, yes. Let's generalize about Batman. Constantly gets played. Everyone off book on let's generalize about men. Constantly gets played. Everyone off book on Let's Generalize about Men. Yeah, no, do you know that? No.

This is really, I mean, it's a huge honor. And honestly, you know what else was great about it? I'm sitting there watching it and not for one second did I think like, oh my god, there's our friend up there. I'm like, yo, that's just an iconic video that should be up there. I was like, that's, and then like later I was like, that's Rachel. That's Rachel. That's an Emmy Golden Globe winning star of our hearts, an American treasure.

The best award, though, is the TCA Individual Achievement in Comedy. And I know that, you know, that's a really hard one to get. They only give it to one person. It's ungendered. They only give it to one person. She has a fantastic special coming on Netflix. Yes. That's let me do my special October 15th. Please watch. Everyone please welcome Rachel Bloom!

In shades. Okay, so I'm wearing sunglasses because I forgot there was an on-camera portion. Cause we didn't tell you, we didn't remind you. No, no, no, but I, so anyway, I am wearing very little makeup. At some point I'll take the shades off but I went well I want people to be impressed right because you've had all these famous fancy like like done-up glam people on certainly

I just wanted to look like I just stepped out of a convertible and took a scarf off of my head You know what's crazy is you were coming up the stairs and I was like, huh? And I had my breath taken away Yeah, I don't ever lie. That makes me very that makes me very We have so much to get into because as you recall we recorded it So last time I was on Les Culturistas was seven and a half years ago in the apartment of It was the sound engineers apartment on Atlantic Avenue Right another era another era sure was I got in there. I Atlantic Avenue. It was another era.

Another era. Sure was. I got in there, I was hungry, I made him feed me. Yes, oh my God. And which is why I brought my Starbucks egg bites this time. Kale and spinach. So I wouldn't make anyone feed me. But I'm laughing because you just talked about the TCA award

and that's exactly what you talked about seven and a half years ago. Is it true? You went, so at the time I hadn't had the Emmy yet, but you were like, she's Golden Globe and you're like, Anna TCA award, which is actually my favorite. And then you do like five to 10 minutes on why the TCA is the best award in the same almost exact wording of now and you're still correct. Yeah, I know.

That's probably the one you look at on the shelf of awards and think, actually, it just, I was cleaning my shelf And it just dropped and it's made of pure glass. It didn't break Thank God, but I was like I need to move this award. This is gonna be a problem closer to the floor Yeah, yeah So Rachel comes in and goes I have notes based on the last time notes on the last time I was here on the show and I am gripped with fear. No, no, it's all great. It's all wonderful. Well, wait, first of all though, wait, sorry.

I have a lot, talking about my daughter. I feel like you'll appreciate this. Please. I'll show you the video, but I feel like I should put it in the mic. Yes. So our nanny, who's a drag race fan, while I've been gone is training my daughter

on what's gonna be her workroom entrance cash phrase. We have to know. It takes training, it do take training. I got sent this video. Wait, do it in the mic so they can hear. Yeah, yeah, okay. Action. I came here to drink juice and spill tea,

but I already finished my juice honey. I came here to drink juice and spill tea, but I already finished my juice honey. That's winner drink juice and spill tea is title of Unreal really unbelievable. Okay, was she coached? Well, yeah. Well, sorry nanny She's very clearly off. I'll show you after this, like she's very clearly off-key with someone being like.

Yeah. Well, she do have nerve. It's. But she hasn't watched Drag Race yet. Your daughter. When I was breastfeeding, I watched nonstop Drag Race. Talk about this idea, because I really, really think that if I were to have a child, I would be totally in on this.

Like, you wanted Space Jam to be the first thing that she listened to as she entered this planet. Do you feel like, osmotically, this is the idea? Like, you want to just, like, download into her all these different things? I think that they hear stuff in the womb. There's evidence that babies, you know, they spend nine and a half, ten

months hearing this, especially the vibrations of their mother's voice and like just whoever they're around. And so it does, they kind of come out knowing the voice is familiar to them. Yes. But it's not like you're not doing that. And maybe you are, but is it like the, it's the Mozart thing. It's like, oh, play classical music. There was definitely was a little bit of, as I was breastfeeding her watching non-stop drag race also was locked down Yeah, so I had nothing else going on and I was a little sad because it was a very intense time So I watched I binged all of this drag races that I hadn't watched before

There's a lot of them pretty joyful. I've tried to rewatch it with her. Anything that isn't cartoon, she gets bored by. I see. What's she into, Cocoa Melon? I were a Cocoa Melon-free household. I won't let her watch it. Thank God. Was it a part of the life at one point, and then you were like, this has to stop?

No, I just heard you have to stop the Cocoa Melon, so she gets to watch that when she's at, my writing partner, Aline, she gets to watch Cocoa Melon when she's at Auntie Aline's, but in our house we have a zero Cocoa Melon tolerance. I mean, her favorite show right now is Gabby's Dollhouse. Gabby's Dollhouse is a huge hit. Have you watched it?

Oh, do you know this from the girls? The girls, my nieces love Gabby's Dollhouse. Okay, okay. Who's Gabby? What's her deal? So, Is this a high concept? Gabby's a girl, it kind of is.

Gabby's a girl, but really she's probably 18 by now, the woman who plays her. She's a girl who sits alone in her bedroom and has a cat named Floyd, and there's a big dollhouse. Again, this is an almost grown woman, but she has a dollhouse. And every episode, she'll be like, it's Floyd's birthday, or she'll,

every episode there's a ramp in her room where a gift comes down on I'm sorry. I'm sorry The gifts come out of the right. So there's a little ramp the gifts come down on wheels and then she goes It's a dollhouse surprise and then so it's like also an unboxing video because then she opens it and it's a little teeny thing She goes, oh my gosh, this must, it's a backpack. We're going camping in the dollhouse. And then she goes, it's time to get tiny. And then she grabs a stuffed animal.

She goes, pinch on my left, pinch, pinch on my right. Grab Pandy's hand and hold on tight. And then she shrinks down into the dollhouse and suddenly it's an animated show. Oh, so it's supernatural. I thought you meant the show's supernatural that was on the CW. No I never mean that. I almost never mean that. It's supernatural.

There's this amazing Reddit group called... What? Oh, my Siri. I'm sorry. Wait, was my Siri your Siri? Your Siri just went off. Also, do you have a male Siri? That's the default now, which let's talk about that later, but keep going.

Interesting. I'm sorry, we are gonna gender Siri. Yeah, I want Siri to do it. She's a woman. Okay, keep going. Wow. You believe Siri's a woman. And I'm not saying like in terms of like a dynamic,

a subservient thing. It's like a Fox News rant suddenly. Siri is a woman. Shut up. She has a vagina News rant suddenly. Siri is a woman! Shut up! She has a vagina! These gay men Siri. Volubian tubes! I could get her pregnant with my cum right now!

They're trying to put men in roles of servitude. I don't wanna fuck man, Siri! I'm not gonna ask man, Siri, how to get me to Panera. Siri's a woman! Oh my god. Damn man. Point me to my bread, woman. I... Point me in the direction of my bread.

You faceless woman. You cis woman. Yeah, faceless cis woman. Vagina-having woman. You cis. I'm sorry. Wait, how do we get my nose to see? So Gabby.

So Gabby shrinks down and says, It's like supernatural. I just don't lie at anyone You got me right now If there's a group song I'm like okay You can match pitch Although I did that fucking TikTok thing Uh huh The doe thing

That doesn't make sense because you have to go off key You do It's weird and also, so this is another thing I saw this gay guy do it, and he was like, doh, and he was like, doh, doh, and he goes, oh, do I have to, and he goes, doh, and then it worked. Ah! Yeah, so.

So it's an octave-specific thing. So then that's fucked up. Oh, well that's why it took me a minute to even get doh. Yeah. But also, I think you have to be on a specific pitch for their doh. It wants men to sound like men and women to sound like women.

Like Siri. Like Siri. That's the truth. We're not coming back from the Siri mode. I can't believe I insisted that Siri was the one. No, because I honestly though. That's gonna be number one article on Deadline tomorrow. That's the poll.

Bowen Yang demands. Bowen Yang demands Siri be a six woman. Do better. Do better, tomorrow. That's the poll. Bowen Yang demands. Bowen Yang demands Siri be a six. Apple changed this. Siri be a six woman. Do better. Do better, Apple. Siri is a woman and you took a job away from a woman and isn't it hard enough? Isn't it hard enough in this town?

It is. Which town? Any town. Any town you ever say. Any town. I don't know why they would change Siri from woman to a man, because that means you have to now pay Siri more. Right.

Wait, speaking of women, Gabby. Gabby. Okay, so she goes in the dollhouse, she goes on adventures, and then she shrinks back up. There's a great Reddit subreddit called Daniel Tiger Conspiracy, which is a bunch of parents, I don't know if you've heard of it, going crazy, who come up with conspiracy theories about the children's shows that they are forced to watch. Right. And it's named after Daniel Tiger's neighborhood.

Yes, yes. Iconic Tiger. The conspiracy theory about, one of the theories about Daniel Tiger's neighborhood is that it's a communist monarchy. And that somehow they're all communists, but they're forcing the monarchy at gunpoint to remain in their stations, but they're also making the monarchy work side by side. Like the prince in Daniel Tiger is a waiter at the restaurant and also babysits and it's like, but he's a prince.

Right. I wish my brain worked like that. It's also a bunch of parents who haven't slept. But the theory about Gabby's dollhouse, I want to say that my husband, he and Gregor and I were talking about and elaborate on is that Gabby, cause Gabby's dollhouse I think premiered in 2020. Okay. That Gabby is in a pandemic era experiment that she's a girl on lockdown

cause you never meet her parents. You only see her bedroom. She has COVID. She's frozen in time. Well she's frozen in, or she's in some sort of isolation experiment. And they mess with her by sending in the gifts on a little ramp.

Oh! And she's slowly going insane. Because that's why she's like, she shrinks down into her dollhouse that this is all a woman hallucinating who's slowly going crazy from being isolated from society. Yeah, the cartoon is a disassociation. Because the highlight of her day has already happened.

She's been given a small gift on a conveyor belt. So that's when she realizes, oh, that's as good as it's gonna get today. Yeah. And she drifts. And it's been an extended four year hallucination. Yeah. Can we apply this?

Are there conspiracies that we can apply to like children's shows that we grew up on? Oh, I love this. Yeah. So what, like let's start Sesame Street. Were you a, I love this. Yeah. Yeah, so what like let's start sesame street girl Yeah, of course like is that like a post nuclear fallout? I was about to say yeah, it's a post. It's New York City in the year 3,000 yeah

Like we're back in like a Bronze Age not Bronze Age, but like but like we're post technology post tech techno clip Well, it's kind of like society restarted like in the end of Wally remember how they always have to restart culture Not Bronze Age, but like we're post technology, post techno-calypse. Well, it's kind of like society restarted like in the end of WALL-E. Remember how they always have to restart culture? But, and this a little bit goes into the unified Pixar theory, which I don't know if you've heard about.

Yeah, yeah, I've heard of that. But anyway, so nuclear war has warped some animals to become, of course, big bird, Elmo. The fuckers versions that speak in human tongues. But there was a section of society that knew the bomb was coming and they hid in a bunker. And that's why you also have regular humans. Got it. Oh, God, I got it, got it.

You ever met someone in real life and you're like, I can't say who this is, but there's a person in my life who is a Sesame Street adult in that. Like they love Sesame, it's like a Disney adult? The way that they interact in the world is kinda like, and this is on video, so I'll just do it, they kinda walk like this.

Whoa. Hey! Do you know these people? I know someone exactly like that. I wonder if we're talking about the same person. No, I don't think, well maybe we'll compare those. No, there's no way, there's no, I don't think you know. There's literally no way, but I'll say this person

is a part of the gay community and whenever I see them, I'm like, why isn't there a furry friend next to you speaking and wanting to know about like how babies are made or like wanting to count A through Z. Some people just have it. And I feel so sad. The person I know is straight,

so it's definitely there's two different people. Or in the closet. Well. With you. Here's the thing, any straight person you know could be in the closet. For me? And that's actually Ruliculture number 50. Any straight person you know could be in the closet with you. Here's the thing, any straight person you know could be in the closet. For me? And that's actually Rela Culture number 50. Any straight person you know could be in the closet.

Oh, I thought it was specific to me or just anyone. Well, anyone. I think anyone, really. But probably, of course. I don't know, I think that people probably would feel so comfortable being gay around you because you're such an ally. I've had numerous people come out.

Like I'm the first or second person. I feel like that is a badge of honor. Do you wear it as well? I love it. Where is it then? Because I don't make a big deal. Where's your badge? Because I don't make a big deal. I go... Won't show eyes, won't show tits.

Great. It's great. What if I just was topless but still kept the sunglasses on? It would be good. it would be ally behavior. It would be. It would. Wait, there's nothing wrong with being a Sesame Street. There's no like. No, no, I love it. In fact, I sort of identify with it a little bit.

There's moments in my life where I know I'm on one, like when I'm having like an anxiety response to do more, where I'm like, you're being Sesame Street adult right now. You're being Maria. Yeah. Oh, I have that too. Where it's the where I'm like, you're being Sesame Street adult right now. You're being Maria. Yeah. Oh, I have that too. It's the show pony part of me that wants to perform and impress and cover.

Yes. Yeah, but I have another layer to add on to this conspiracy about Sesame Street, which is- Please. There are weapons grade hallucinogens involved. But I guess any children's show is a hallucination. That's the thing is you can kind of any children's show that goes into another medium like cartoon or claymation.

Yes. Yeah, you're on acid. Sesame Street has like this psychedelic quality to it though where it's like it's variety. It's like you go in there's interstitial stuff and you go into the different little movements throughout the episode and that is kind of Special wait, can I ask a question about snuffle up? I guess can I get like to the bottom of something? Oh, yeah

No one can see him except Big Bird. What is it? Yes, so they changed this though. Okay in the mid 90s so snuffle up I guess is real Uh-huh and Big Bird was like, Snuffy's over there, but it's the type of gag where Snuffleupagus would disappear just when someone else came in. So everyone thought it was Big Bird's imaginary friend, but it wasn't.

Now, I want to say it's in the early mid-90s, they realized this could be really bad messaging for children who were being sexually abused. Whoa! Because a child would say, this is happening to me, and then they'd watch Sesame Street and people would be like, oh, Big Bird, there's no Snuffleupagus, we can't see him.

So there's an episode of Sesame Street where everyone sees Snuffleupagus and they go, Big Bird, we believe you. I'm so sorry. Wow. Snuffleupagus has been here the whole time. I apologize to you, Big Bird. That was the episode where they broke down what gaslighting meant?

This is a very special episode on gaslighting. Period. I love you pointing out that it's your favorite word. It has become America's favorite word. Yeah. It's everywhere. It's everywhere. The words gaslight and narcissist have taken over. I've been using those words for 15 years

and now everyone's using them and they're not wrong. Yeah, you've been using them since college. I wonder why. Oh God. Well, can I just say the person who taught me what gaslighting was, the word was our friend Mike Spence. Really? It's a very like NYU comedy group word.

It's a film thing too because of the movie Gaslight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really? I'm just saying like, I feel like we've known about the word, the three of us have known about the word Gaslight because we had the privilege slash dishonor of going to NYU and being in the comedy groups. You know what I mean?

Yes. And can I say something? I want to correct the record. I have love for all of those people. I have love for everybody. I have love for 95% of those people. So this can connect to your notes from the episode. But we talked about the wedding.

The wedding that was thrown for us. And I want to say, as shitty and annoying as that was, and in retrospect, you know what's the best version of what happened? We're not butthurt about it today. We today we're not like that was traumatic it's just an important part of the lore of our friendship yes I do also want to that person shortly after that episode came out did reach out to me and say that that they were hurt by yeah yeah by my dismissive tone and especially because I

wasn't there at the wedding so I you, you know, I was being catty. It wasn't, I apologize, but I'll apologize again seven and a half years later. I was just being catty. I was tired. Um, you know, I hadn't eaten. Was it avocado toast that was made for you? Probably. I think it was. I think I remember that. No, I wouldn't have made someone chop up an avocado. Certainly. The avocado. I think it was just toast. There was toast and maybe some butter on the toast. That sounds like me. Yeah.

What are your notes on the episode from 7 1⁄2 years ago? I had a lot of thoughts. Okay. So this is, what was the title of the episode? The Wedding. The Wedding. That's literally the title of the wedding. With Rachel Bloom.

This is an episode that I guess we did in what, 2017? It is, hold on, let me put it up. 2017. So I'm gonna be, I'm still recovering from a cold, this is not cocaine. No problem, if it was, no problem. I guess so, I mean, it looks like it is cocaine with my sunglasses.

Should I take off my sunglasses to prove it's not cocaine? It's not cocaine, look at how white the eyes are. Can I just say, your eyes are so beautiful that to hide them would be so, yeah, now show your gorgeous face. Show that TCA winning face. To America now! This episode is from April 12th, 2017.

Wow. Jesus. Okay. Okay, here's some notes. At 821, Bowen is working in an office with a floral campaign. Yeah. So you were, I think you were graphic design?

I was graphic designing for One Kings Lane. E-commerce. So there were, I think you were graphic design? I was graphic designing for One Kings Lane. One Kings Lane, e-commerce. So there was a floral campaign. God, this is so viscerally crazy. Now you got hired to write for SNL, what? 2018. Less than, so this is about a year after this episode happened.

Yeah, within a year I was, I totally switched jobs. I think, so we talked about, obviously me talking out of medical school, you must be even more glad now that you didn't go to medical school. Oh my god. Rachel. You can't go viral on medical school. I mean, I guess you can in the bad way.

You can't go viral. He could have been like a fun doctor who lip synched. Yeah, totally. Because then you wouldn't even have to go out and get the scrubs. You would just be wearing them, and he could have done an incredible Christina Yang, like, unbearable monologue from Grey's Anatomy. Totally, and I would have loved the pots and pans being banged for me, you know what I mean?

Yeah, you would have loved that. Thank you! Imagine being a medical professional who was just like, yeah! Surviving in that moment, being like, finally my time. They're finally recognizing what I do. Oh, God. My friend did say, a couple months after COVID,

my friend who's a doctor was like, yeah, my friend is a doctor, was like, yeah, so a couple months ago, we were all heroes and getting cookies and now no one cares and we're sad. Oh, God. Terrible. Okay, continue. Okay.

It was a different life. First of all, I had forgotten how much you both watched Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and really watched it, so I wanna thank you. Loved Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. For your support. One of the great shows. You asked me, is this before season three?

You said, is Robert a thing in season three? And I said, I can't say. So now I can answer, which is kind of. Yeah. Finally. That's a great answer too. Because it kind of is. Yeah, yeah, it's this kind of secret that comes out

and it's what causes Josh Chan to turn on her. That show was so great. And we'll talk's what causes Josh Chan to turn on her and that show was so great And we'll talk about this Here I'll go back there's something that relates to special but I'll go back to it. Okay throughout our conversation I keep going hilarious instead of laughing. That's that's a very comedian thing. You don't like comedians. Don't laugh. That's not something I do I got it. You all laugh for the lean brush McKenna does that and I was around her so much Yeah, she goes, huh? Larius Larius that's halfway to a laugh. I've

Larius I've heard that there is one Showrunner whose iconic thing is to say instead of laughs she goes that's funny And that's how you know, what is the opposite of that? That's funny. Oh, it's like her way of turning down a joke. I's how you know it is the opposite of that. That's funny. Oh, it's like her way of turning down a joke. I'll tell you who it is later. Okay, great. It's not Aline.

It's not Aline. I'll leave it whenever. You are such a laugher though. I'm such a laugher and so I listen to that and I'm like, this is so weird. And I'm like, oh, I was hanging around Aline so much. I think I was also really tired. Yeah.

And hungry. You pick things up in I think I was also really tired. Yeah. And hungry. You pick things up in rooms with people that are the authorities. Like I remember I picked up from Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider, the blank of it all. Like we're talking about the carry of it all. We're talking about the brook of it all. And then I started saying that all the time because it was just a catch all. And it just happens. It's osmosis, a word you used earlier. Osmotically.

Oh. Anyway. Maybe you should have been a doctor. That's really good. No. Yeah, it's a real medical term. If you went into medicine, what would have been your focus? I was going to be lazy and do orthopedics because it's not gory blood.

I mean, it is gory, I guess, but it's like, it's just setting bones. Don't you have to do surgery? You don't necessarily have to be, you're just setting bones and then you're like, oh great, I made $400,000 this year, or something like that. Okay, I'm actually really glad you didn't go to medical school because you have very little.

I actually really, there was a part of me when I was younger that was dabbling with being a doctor because I loved blood and gore. Still do? Ever since I've become a parent, my tolerance, and it's not just in kids, my tolerance for all violence and blood and gore has gone down. My heart, and I say it in a special way, my heart has just been cracked open and I'm lame now.

No, no. You know what? It's the door has been open and no matter how hard you try, you can't shut it. And it's just like, but even I was watching the Menendez Brothers thing on Netflix, and you see her hand get like shot off. I had to skip all the violent scenes. That's a crazy fucking scene. It's a really crazy scene and it bothered me in a way that there's just something about having a

kid suddenly, and maybe it's also because I've now lost a friend. The combination of that suddenly gore and Grief and loss is not something that's over there. It's very real. Yeah, and It destroys me. I the second Avatar movie. Okay. Oh, yeah, what are the whales the whales? Yes the whales the tokoon But that is crazy. So What are the whales called? The whales, yes, the whales. The Toe-Koon. But that is crazy. So, that's-

How do you know? Okay. Because I saw the film so many times. So this is how much being a parent's fucked me up. So, the scene where they kill the, it's the Toe-Koon? The Toe-Koon. The scene where they kill Toe-Koon, and then she's a mother.

Her baby is strong. Her baby is strong, and then she goes, she was a singer of songs. She was a composer of songs. I kept thinking about the baby because you never see the dead baby. But it is dead. So when I got home, I couldn't stop thinking about it.

I Googled, Takun. Yeah, dead. Baby dead or alive? Because I wanted to find some sort of Reddit or Quora thread where someone had a theory that the baby was alive. No. That's how much I can't read the news. You can't even theorize about it. It had a theory that the baby was alive. No, that's how much I can't read the news

You can't even theorize about it It was a fact that maybe did the idea of like you've killed a mother and the baby whale also died because She didn't have the milk. This is a fictitious alien whale. I know and I'm And it's all I could think about I never could really do like horror But then what's crazy is like it's the violence that bothers me Yes, like I couldn't watch that scene in a man and as for that reason and I kind of just like I've always been very sensitive To that I'm documented on this podcast as being like really sensitive to gore and horror and stuff But when people die in movies it like it hurts my feelings

Yeah, and in a way where I'm like, like even if I'm writing something, I don't I very rarely kill characters and like things that I write. Even back in the day doing sketch comedy, I rarely had people die because I just think it's sad. I mean, I feel like constantly, you know, the classic way to end a sketch was for just someone to do. Just like back in the day. So I wrote on the show Robot Chicken where like if someone isn't exploding, I ended numerous sketches when I wrote for Robot Chicken with someone like shitting themselves to death. I knew the way to get in a Robot Chicken sketch was to end the dialogue going, herg! Which is someone shitting themselves to death and it's spelled H-U-U-U-U-R-R-R-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-H-H-H-H-H-H.

And it's very specific. The final H is important. Yeah. Herg! H-U-U-U-R-R-R-G-G-G-G-G-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H- to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Grumps? We got studs, wizards, we got freaks.

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We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. Looked like a little angel.

I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.

Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.

At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps.

It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa. And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra.

We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board. Just don't call me unless it's urgent. And tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky,

and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, now the worm has turned. The polls still point to an election that is deeply in doubt. But polls don't say everything. The panic of their responses to Biden stepping down, the chaotic spree of hate, points to a single truth.

They don't know what to do now. The monsters are off balance, stumbling, unable to find the ground. We can see some evidence of this in the fact that Musk just came out and canceled his promised $45 million monthly donations to the Trump campaign. This is the first chain of solidarity

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the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You say this in the special, which is that like, you see now that all children are fragile, and therefore, the bigger idea there is like everything is fragile. Of course. And that's why you're like, to Koon, Dead or Alive, like, I need to know, it doesn't matter that it's a fictitious whale. It's like everything, even the imagined stuff is fragile. Yeah.

And that's, that's all it is. It's too, yeah. Yes, you're absolutely right. And in fact, when I was a kid, kids are fucked up. Kids are really fucked up since if you were, because when you're a kid, a lot of times you don't have much to lose. So it's like why teens make dead baby jokes.

It's like there's a hardness, there's a lightness, there's an I'm gonna live forever death and grief. And a lot of bad things are so far away. And it's just not, that's not who I am anymore. It's weird because I used to have a really high tolerance for stuff. Even out of everyone that we did sketch with, you were like kind of known as the darkest one.

I mean, we did like that, we were never in the group together, but famously like at the end of the year, all the seniors were getting to do their own thing. And it was just, they just read all your blackout lines and how blue they all were, like how dark they all were. Wasn't that your bit? I remember that.

Oh my God, I forgot that. Yeah, it was just like, I remember that. It was like- Yeah, I'm a dark, that's half me being a dark person, also me cosplaying as a guy in comedy, which we talked about seven and a half years ago. Yes, and I do wanna get back to the notes, I'm fascinated. No, no, no,

we talked a lot about our college comedy groups, and it's interesting, I can't go into specifics, but in sharing my story, which was that I was, got caught in this love triangle, and I was removed as director of Hammer Cats, I have since heard stories about other women in years behind me when I thought the groups were better going through other things.

Not dissimilar to that. And it's numerous stories. And I have some bones to pick, not with you two, but I have some other bones to pick. Interesting, off mic. Not with us, you. Or not with us. You're saying not with us, but we would... No, no, not with, no, no, you guys aren't the problem.

Not with you two. Totally. I have bones to pick with various other people. Yeah, I was inserting myself in that being like, well, we would love to know off the mic, but that's... Oh, I'll tell you off the mic. We're not even privy to that information necessarily. No, I'll tell you off the mic. Okay, I don't know.

But I think it's interesting because that was seven years ago and I could still, I mean, I wrote about it in my book. There's something that, I don't know. But I think it's interesting because that was seven years ago and I could and I still I mean I wrote about in my book There's something that I know college is very formative like stuff that happens to you. Your brain is still forming I think your brain is not fully formed until you're 25 or something like that Then there's a reason these experiences mold you and shape you anyway, okay Yeah, I think about the way I was back then and I'm like Jesus Christ. This is great So first of all right this was you were a week away from being on who wants to be a millionaire. Oh, yeah What ended up happening I won five thousand dollars great. I've said I knew this but I wanted I'm sure you said it

I just wanted well, I went out to Vegas with Sudi who was my my photo friend phone a friend But at that point they were just doing like plus one like she sat behind me in the audience and then came out I guess they finally figured out that phone a friend. But at that point, they were just doing like plus one. Like she sat behind me in the audience and then came out. I guess they finally figured out that phone. A friend could be very easily like, you know, you could cheat because your friend could just be at home, like Googling it. They caught up to the age of technology and the friend was there. So we were there. And Chris Harrison from The Bachelor was the host who did not like me.

And I could tell. And he like did this thing where. So I got on a second episode because like we ran out of time and then I had to come back out for the second episode. And I guess I messed up my entrance and he didn't like that because I guess it was the end of the day.

And so he wanted to go home, I guess. He did give a very I'm over this very tired energy. Like he was doing the job But like very like I'm half awake and I'm Chris Harrison Which was kind of his whole thing anyway, which I think made him a good host of the Bachelor because no one was looking at him They were looking at like the guy and then the girls because whatever Just a perfect vanilla host and then he when I did my entrance to come out the second time

I went to shake his hand and he pulled my hand, and you can actually see in the video me like come off my feet a little bit because he was like trying to do like a male dominance, like don't mess around. Yeah, he was a jerk. Total jerk. And I remember me and Sudi were, we went to commercial break and he did the thing where it's like the host is talking while while everyone claps You go to commercial and he literally did that thing of like and now is the part we pretend to talk So what is that?

Jesus you know what like everyone's allowed to have a whatever day, but that was my experience What we mean to conduct because then we'll share it on here I'll say it on the last coach. I mean, I don't think it's like that reporter who's now Going back retrospectively being like these are some of my worst interviews. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, the one with Blake Lively, but then also there's like one with Anna Hathaway and like yeah Yeah, but do you blame them? No? I don't know. Do I blame them? Look press junkets are... They're exotic?

It's erupting! Press junkets are... also I got gel X for the first time. I was gonna say those are a fucking stun. Gorgeous. Show the camera. I will say it's like... also picking my nose is harrowing. That's okay. Just... Oh, oh. No, cause I'll stab myself. Yeah, there's harp.

I guess I can tweezer it. Press junkets are really, have you guys ever done like a proper junket? So you're in a room, you're in the same room for three hours, they bring people in, it's tiring. You say the same shit over and over again. I think what's messed up is that for other people to notice these interviews and for them to go viral, yeah, that's the internet. There's something a little messed up about the journalist.

Exhuming it. Exhuming it because it's a little bit like, there's a little bit of a therapist client confidentiality because you're both in it together. You're both in the trenches together. I get it. I don't think it's cool. Yeah. It's juicy.

You're right. It's juicy, but also like,'s a it's a little bit of like yeah, just stop It's it's your work colleagues a little bit. Yeah Yes, yeah, I guess my thing is just like the thing with Chris Harrison was like it was like I had that experience Whatever and then like a few years later He said all that like whack shit Yeah like when the when the bachelor was having a lot of like, there was a lot of conversations about like race

with The Bachelor and he really kind of like, no one needed to expose him for being whatever way because he kind of was like, he unveiled himself as a little bit of a jerk. Everyone knows he's a piece of shit. I have to believe, and this has been proven numerous times, that if someone is mean to you in the industry, the world will figure it out.

That if they're mean to you, if they're mean to you, you're not an isolated experience. You don't have to go on a public tirade against them. They are going to out themselves. That has now happened numerous times where I'm like, the world will take care of them. That's real culture number eight. The world will take care of them.

You know, we've had this discussion about this Taylor Swift quote. She says, trash takes itself out every time. You don't think that's true. I kind of, I'm- Not every time. Not every time. Did I. You don't think that's true. I kind of, I'm- Not every time. Not every time. Did I say I don't think that's true?

I think it, not every time, but I think trash will likely take itself out eventually. That's what I think. It might smell up the house. I just think the media, especially if you're like a well-known person nowadays, the media is so sensitive and it's like, anyone can pull something up from a long time

ago like there's records of everything with the Internet. It's like you can't really hide who you are, especially now when everyone's on like an authenticity hunt. Because it's like that's what people get off on and that's what people connect to. And so it's like, I almost think it's the reason why we're seeing this shift away from like the Diane Sawyer type interview and more towards the like Alex Cooper thing with Kamala Harris. Like it's just, it's, everything is becoming a lot more casual because I think people are

attracted to it. But that casualness is going to cause people to therefore act very casual. And when someone acts casual like that, they're gonna show who they really are. Well, the access is just different. 30 years ago, someone did an interview, you couldn't then re-watch that interview unless you taped it on a VHS. Exactly.

But now that interview is forever, so people can scrutinize. I'm not even talking about things that happen to myself as much as just what happens. You can go and be like, wait a second, this is crazy. It's just the access to how people act at every moment. Yeah. So it just the technology wasn't there 30 years ago. Like growing up. Yeah. My ideas. I'm sure your ideas of like, I want to be a star. Yes. what that meant was different. Like when I thought I wanna be a star. I-

And it came true in the words of Anne Hathaway. I would have. Sorry, there you go. It came true. Who was the lady who read for the wrestler who went, oh, I love the people. Wrestler. Melissa.

Melissa Leo. Melissa Leo. Oh, there are people. Oh, the fighter. The fighter, yeah. Um, um, wrestler. Melissa. Melissa Leo, Melissa Leo. Melissa Leo. Oh, there are people. Oh, the fighter, the fighter. The fighter, the fighter. Yeah, there are people up there. The people up there. Wait, wait, forget it. And when she said the word fuck,

and she pretended like she didn't need to, but it was so clearly she was going. The hunt for authenticity. I respect Melissa Leo. She, she. No, no, no, no, no. Hey. She ran a great campaign.

Hey, she did it. She did it. She succeeded. The thing that I keep also seeing that social media and the world rewards that I guess I need to be better at is shamelessness. I have very rarely seen people who are schmoozy in a cringey way, mostly they get rewarded for it

because they're not being bad people. They're just being schmoozy. I see them getting rewarded for it even though it makes me sometimes cringe the way it is and this is also just social media Spon con I very rarely see that cringiness get Attacked online. I don't think I mean online attacks. I don't think anyone should be really attacked. I told it It's been three weeks with this cough. It happens. Shit. I hope that's not foreshadowing.

I hope you don't play this episode back in seven years and I was like that was when it began. Don't talk about it anymore because that's always what happens. People are like, when I die, what I want is... And I'm like, don't give them that. Because don't ever be on camera being like I guess the last thing I'd ever want to say is it's like what are you doing? They're gonna use that in the true crime documentary. Or it's just you're just putting that energy out

there. Yeah. I gave I gave do you remember do you know remember Jeff Ekman? Yeah. Yeah. Jeff one time we gave each other our like death request if we were to die this is when I was 20 and one of my requests was that he somehow kick Dick Cheney in the balls. Sure. Very 2007, 2008. Very. How was he gonna get access to Dick Cheney? How would he? I also, he might get,

he himself might get assassinated if he tried to kick Dick Cheney in the balls. Oh, certainly. So, do I still have that request? Kind of. Pass. I don't even want to get into it. You know, it's like, well, the whole thing with the Cheneys is it's like, all of a sudden we're like, and thank you, Liz Cheney. It's like, Liz Cheney has been one of the worst people in government for such a long time.

And having basic humanity right now and like not being a complete fucking moron is like now now she might watch when she's like in the cabinet Oh the bar so I mean will you think back on Mitt Romney's binders full of women? Oh, yeah Oh, I long for long binders full of women. Oh member be member one be I The things that ended remember when Marco Rubio was thirsty. Oh, yeah Oh the water just kept drinking water. But yeah, the Howard Dean scream ruining his career is yeah We are far from that. I think that's when the internet was that what year was that? 2004?

Yeah, so I feel like that was the inner people being like wait on the internet You can play things you can clip it and and distribute if I were to do it all over again Even at NYU media studies major. Oh, interesting. Or something sociological or something. I'm like, I need to know. I love, especially now as an adult, I'm like, I wanna know how these things work.

As we're talking about media literacy and what being a public-facing person means now. I'm like, oh, I really wanna pop open the hood. Oh yeah, so what I was gonna say was, when I was a kid and I was watching the Golden Globes or the Osc Like I'm like, oh I really want to like pop open the hood. Oh yeah, so what I was gonna say was when I was a kid and I was thinking and I was watching the Golden Globes or the Oscars and being like, oh that's what being famous is. What never occurred to me when I never thought about because it wasn't possible was like, I want to be at a place where I can post a thought about something that has nothing to do with the work that I'm doing.

Yeah. And that thought will be, I will be seen as either an expert or scrutinized for it. That was never a part of being, you had to go out of your way. When we were growing up, in order to like be a celebrity and make a statement on something, you had to like really go out of your way. You had to say it like during an award speech. You had to make it a point in an interview. It was more rare. And now that everyone is expected to be an authority

and expert on everything and everything is on the record. At all times. At all times is really, and I'm not even talking about if you're a celebrity, it's toxic for everyone. Because everyone is fundamentally imperfect and in a constant state of learning. And it's just such,

we're in such a world of glass houses right now. It's crazy. I mean, it's like, you stand a certain way or you stand a certain place and it's like a statement on things. You know what I mean? It's like, you know what I mean? Like it's just, it's silly, it's dumb.

Like I also remember when they, this is 15 years ago, remember when they asked child Justin Bieber at abortion? Yeah, it's crazy. And he was like, I don't know, it seems sad. It's like killing a baby. And it was like, Justin Bieber at abortion. Yeah, it's crazy and he was like, I don't know it seems sad It's like killing a baby. It was like Justin Bieber is anti-abortion. It's like yeah, he's a Canadian child Well, he's not abortion he's singing baby baby He's not doing I also think like when his songs about babies, of course, he's gonna

Air on the side of the probaby. Of pro-baby. It's his meal ticket. Yeah, well, and it's also big baby. It's big baby is out there. He was a baby. It was a baby. And I just wanna say, just to quickly put a point on this, period on this, is never liked dead baby jokes,

even as a teenager. Okay, let's keep going. Yeah, I don't like dead baby jokes at all. I, you are better people than I am. No, no, no, and that's not, I just, I never got it even as a 14 year old when kids were doing it. I was like, this is upsetting.

So you know what it was for me, and I would say like this with dark humor, and this is why I also went in Hammer Cats, I was dark. So I grew up in Southern California by the beach where everyone was, if you weren't happy, you covered it. It is a happy, beautiful place. I was just there this weekend. It's gorgeous. And if you're unhappy, which I was a lot of the time, you feel crazy. Because you're like, I'll take off my sunglasses, because this is important.

You're like, there's something wrong with me. Why would I be unhappy here? The sun is out, everyone around me is happy. Santa's on a surfboard when it's Christmas, because that's the aesthetic of like Southern California beach Christmas. It's always Santa on a surfboard. Yes. He's wearing like the Santa clothes, but he's in shorts. And he has the gifts.

Packs on Santa. Packs on Santa. How could you be unhappy? Around packs on Santa. Around packs on Santa. And so I think that I looked rocks I went to a very dark place sometimes because I looked for validation of the darkness that I felt inside myself Yeah, that wasn't being validated on the outside and the East Coast. Yeah to go to New York

So like Long Island half the year like long island fucking sucks. Totally like it's like gross It reminds you that life is suffering by nature of the season even winter winter reminds you that life is suffering by nature of the season. Even winter. Winter reminds you that life is fundamentally suffering. And it allows you to change because you realize that time is passing. It's sort of like Gabby. You know what I mean? It's like she lives in that simulation all the time and never changes. That's why she's an 18-year-old, 4-year-old.

So my existence was more like Gabby's dollhouse than had I lived on the East Coast. Right. So I did things like... You look for dark humor like dead baby jokes. I read The Exorcist for an eighth grade book report. And I wrote about The Exorcist. And that's a dark... That book is not appropriate for a 13-year-old. She fucks herself with a crucifix.

She sure does. I mean, she talks about like Pazuzu and all it's really wait. What's the Pazuzu? It's Pazuzu right I did the thing where she was um There's a part of the exorcist book where she's being interviewed and she's speaking What they think is a foreign tongue and they play it back and she's speaking back backwards And she says no one my and I recorded myself doing it on the computer and then played backwards and It's I am no one to hear my own voice at 13 go. I am no one See that's the Chris that's really so that's why I can't things playing backwards and songs like that shit like the urban legends

And everything no no no no I should do that I should make a song where there's like a Backwards message that's like really subliminally in there. I died in 2008. I am now an Illuminati robot. Okay, take a note. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks?

We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, girls? We We got studs wizards. We got freaks or dudes dude. We got dogs Dog will break down their games We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are

Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak is Tom Brady a dog or dudes dude? We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.

He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian, Elian. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.

Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.

Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Piece, the Elian Gonzalez story as part of the MyCultura podcast network available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Teresa. And guess what?

Hunting is back. Drop it just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete.

You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's urgent, and tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Well, now the worm has turned. The polls still point to an election that is deeply in doubt. But polls don't say everything. The panic of their responses to Biden stepping down, the chaotic spree of hate, points to a single truth. They don't know what to do now. The monsters are off balance, stumbling, unable to find the ground. We can see some evidence of this in the fact

that Musk just came out and canceled his promised 45 million dollar monthly donations to the Trump campaign. This is the first chain of solidarity between our enemies to crumble and it won't be the last. Every time that happens we get more room to move and maneuver. The fascists may well regain their footing in time to crush us but something else has happened in the last few days as well. People, we humans as a vast, blurry mob, have started to remember how many of us there are and how much potential the weight of our numbers gives us.

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also has content you can't get anywhere else, like extended interviews and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, Ears Edition on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, wait. This episode is seven and a half years ago. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes, yes. So we were talking about award shows. Sure. Here's what's great. It is without question the person who's going to be nominated for big awards is you and that Bowen will be coming

to award shows with you. Oh wow that ended up being so different It's just I mean it's gonna happen. Life is long. Life is long. Oh a hundred percent Yeah, and it should but it's just very funny because you've now been to the primetime Emmys way more than I ever did You've won and I haven't. Yes. I mean technically I want a creative arts Emmy. It's the same Emmy. A shmemmy is an Emmy. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. A shmemmy is an Emmy. It is a shmemmy. You described your ideal morning that you wake up and someone hands you a mimosa. I was being tongue in cheek by the way, right? I don't know. It's pretty great.

Was this where I said I wanted to wear canary yellow? Yes. Yeah, okay, that's where this came from. And you wanted to wear canary yellow because you wanted to appear as if you, there's no way you'd win. Right. And then you were practicing your winning faces.

So now I'd like to ask you, what's your award show morning routine? And have you gone to award shows with him? I went to the Emmys with you once when you were nominated as a writer. As a writer. And then I haven't been back. No.

It overwhelms me. It's a lot. That's what I was saying that. It's a lot. And nothing else in life is a lot. And everyone around you also has the vibe of, this is a lot. Yeah.

No one really feels like they belong there. Everyone else is like, I guess we're not the enemies. I think that's one of the things too that's so different about when you're little and you look up and you're like, wow, I want to be like a big star. You think that there's going to be a comfort and an elusivity to the experience and you're just uncomfortable and it's all a show. You know what I mean? and like an elusivity to the experience, and you're just like uncomfortable, and like it's all a show. You know what I mean?

Like you realize like that red carpet, you've waited for an hour to get on it around people who are like hungry and uncomfortable and with their publicists. You know what I mean? It's all, it sucks to say it's all fake because that sounds so rough, but it is constructed. Let's just say.

Well, you're not seeing the part where you're waiting in line. I love being at shows and talking. I also, I wrote on the People's Choice Awards many years ago and I thought it was really interesting. And whenever I'm at awards, I like talking to the people working behind the scenes and being like, so what's the drama today?

Yeah, yeah. And I get the tea sometimes. They're like, oh, well, so-and-so was supposed to present and they didn't like their speech. So, and I was like, and I love, I love hearing that stuff because it's a job. People are there to work. It's a work event. So when you went, this is a question for both of you,

when you wake up on an awards show morning, did someone hand you a mimosa? No one handed me a mimosa. I'll just order a room service and then I'll like, work out, meditate, and then like, put on the clothes. And then like this year- That's the fun part, honestly, and then like put on the clothes. And that's it. And then like this year at the end- That's the fun part, honestly. Fun part is putting on the clothes.

This year, Suity came and you know, we like did a whole, just had a nice time taking a couple pictures. And then it becomes prom for like 20 minutes. Yes. And that's fun. And then once you arrive at the thing and you gotta meet your publicist and you gotta walk,

and it's like then it becomes your publicist and you gotta walk, and it's like then it becomes work, and then you're like, ooh, this is, the curtain's been pulled back literally Wizard of Oz style, like, oh, this is not what I thought it would be. And the whole night is about adjusting to that. And then as soon as you feel slightly adjusted, then it ends.

Although I will say, I do think it's a mercy that the category that I've been nominated in the past three times has been top of show. And then the rest of the night I'm like, okay, well we're drinking, you know? Do you leave after your? I don't. I'm just like, I might as well stay.

Like who knows when I'll be back. Like I might as well stay for this. Yeah. So do you? You should. No, but also the times at the Emmys I was nominated, I think my category was towards the end. So I was always there.

So then you're just nervous. Okay, let me ask you a question. So I had to do so much awards campaigning for Crazy X. I knew exactly when the Golden Globes nominations were coming out, when Emmy nominations, because I had to, I was the face of the show. I had to. And every night I would get,

before an award show nomination, it was the worst anxiety I couldn't sleep and the next time it happened god willing if it ever happens again, like I should take his annex or something I mean when I that last time with the Emmys I was Pregnant when the nominations were announced that would make sense because I was pregnant. Yeah So I couldn't take his annex but anyway I was pregnant. I was pregnant, yeah. So I couldn't take his annex. But anyway, I'm always aware of when the awards nominations are, not always, but often I'm aware and it gives me horrible like anxiety.

It feels like it feels like the worst version of like a cast list coming out. I don't know. It feels weird. But then you hear people be asked like, what were you doing when you found out you were nominated? And they're like, oh my God, I didn't know the nominations were today. I was at the gym. I think that's fake. That's fake, right? So like, what are your doing when you found out you were nominated? And they're like, oh my God, I didn't even know the nominations were today. I was at the gym. That's fake, right?

So like, what are your feelings the night before nominations? This year, I was honestly, honest to God, the night before, I obviously knew that the nominations were coming out the next day, but I was just like finally back in town, getting my apartment all together. Couldn't really sleep, but then woke up the next morning being like, I'm gonna go to the gym.

I'm gonna sit in the steam room for like 10 minutes. So I like had this like agita, but then I sat in the steam room meditated, did a whole like, had a whole moment to myself where I was like, whatever happens, like you care obviously, but it's probably not gonna happen. And so just like ground yourself in that and then go about the rest of your day. And you have all these other things in your schedule that were purely domestic. Like you're gonna go and buy like a new trash can.

You know, like you're gonna go, you're gonna like work on this thing. And then it was like in the middle of my day that like it came out. And then the first, somehow these publicists know everything before anyone else does. And then that's when they text you.

And I was like, oh, and I found out through text. I was like, oh great. But I packed my day so much that I was like, well, I gotta move on, I gotta go to this next place. And the inertia of that and the momentum of that was helpful. It's good, it's grounding. It's grounding.

I also hate the bullshit of like, oh, I had no idea. I mean, I obviously had the awareness, but. I guess there are some people, they would have to be like, I'm not going online, don't tell me when the nominations are. No, I was tracking and I was like, oh and it's 11 a.m So here's the problem is for because it's West Coast. We always cater to you guys. Mm-hmm. Yeah They're always at like 6 a.m. Right? Yeah, and so then you're like, well, it's six. I might as well like stay up I wish it was just an email

Though because I feel like, you know what, not that I've ever been in contention in a real way, but sometimes I like waking up and rolling over and then being able to see the nominees and not it being 9 a.m. and waiting around. That sucks. I'd rather wake up, look at the phone, and be like, oh, there's something happening

in the phone right now, or there's not. You know what I mean? Right, right, right, right, right. Because then it's like, you can deal with it in the moment of waking up and being by yourself, and not that, I hate being anxious waiting for things. So that's what it is. I think it's just the anxious,

it's the anxious waiting that I don't want. Hence the need to, and the want to take the Xanax, because you're like, let me just kill this feeling. Yeah, it's just, it's like a body, even if you don't want, even if you're like, this isn't, it's fine, like, it's just it's like a body even if you don't want even if you're like this isn't it's fun like It's fine either way your body is doing something that you don't want it to do. Well this is why I'm a pothead This is literally why this is because I'm like the second I start to feel uncomfortable

It's something I'm like actively working on. Yeah. Is like I have to stop my body from physically being like Oh oh, you need marijuana right now to calm down. Oh, wow. So you smoke a lot. All the time. Yeah, yeah. I want to ask you this. This is a moment in the special. It's not spoiling anything, but you... You can spoil it. Well, no, no, no.

There's the moment that you find out, or immediately after you find out that your friend has passed away, your psychiatrist tells you all you can do is feel. And then you're like, and for some reason I grabbed a journal because that seems like, why is that the default?

I relate to this so much. It's like, why do we think, why is the imagery of feeling of emotional access and direction, it's like, why is that so tied to the idea of journal? Because I have the same thought where I'm like, I guess I better write this down, even though I never, it's never for posterity,

I never look back on it. Like, what is that? But that ended up being like an important element of that moment for you, right? Where you wrote something down. Well, I did, but then I gave up. I mean, literally, I still have the notebook somewhere and it's like, Adam, dot, and then, you know,

and that's all I can write. I don't know, I think that, look, I naturally do see writing as cathartic. Yes. And there is something, the moment something happens, writing about it, you do capture, I don't know writing as cathartic. Yes, and there is something the moment something happens writing about it. You do capture I don't know you capture them up, but that's very that's very product oriented And that's not what I was in that moment. I wasn't going for like output output at all. I don't know

I don't know why you're they you just when you read self-care guidelines. Mm-hmm It always says journal. That's almost a thing that you've been told from a young, like the American girl, Care and Keeping of You. Do you ever read this Dear America? No, I'm talking about there's an American girl book from the mid-90s called The Care and Keeping of You that every young woman read,

and it featured a graphic illustration of a girl putting a tampon in. Every woman listening to this or watching this who was born in the late 80s, early 90s knows what I'm talking about. Anyway, Journal About It is the thing you read, and I was so in that moment lost when he died. I mean, this is seconds after he's died that I was like, the emotions were unbearable.

That I was like, what will help me? I want to, it was in a way it was like, maybe the journal will help me not feel this way. I think that's what it is that I have to do. And I'm a very, I gotta do something person. So the idea of just sitting with my emotion. Doesn't seem right. But I couldn't do it.

And then I remember I took a shower and there was this ledge in my shower and I just put my head on it and sobbed. And even now, when I'm in the shower and I'm on that and I look at that ledge, I think about that moment where I was like sobbing which is weird with shower sex. You gotta reach out. Yeah. You gotta yeah. Are you having shower sex though? Yeah. Really? I never could figure it out. I guess it's a little different. It's different for for gay. Well because you also have to figure out because like

water is not water is not a lubricant. So that is a challenge of shower sex. And so thank God for natural lubricant. Well there's not, but also do you put the spigot away? Yeah, it's in the way. What you want is the steaminess. Right, you don't want the... Well, because also it's calming. Sure.

Sometimes you'll get in the shower, shower, shower, shower, you'll be like, oh, I love showers. Yeah, yeah. I just don't want to drown. Like if I'm like, if I'm like the, let's face it, the receiving partner, likely. Okay. And then I'm like, ah, and then like I'm like not in control.

What if I like get put under the water and I'm like, you know what I mean? I wonder how many people die that way. How many? So many, I don't know. So many people are into choking and stuff. My friend has a fucked up story of being at a sex club and seeing a guy die. Because he was really fucked up on drugs and I think he was getting, his esophagus was getting compressed or something and he was, it was like the wrong angle and he like somehow suffocated

It wasn't anyone's fault. He just yeah, he didn't notice. I think that his windpipe. It was a sex accident It's such a bummer story. No, no, no, no, but like I was watching your special and then about 10 15 minutes in I think it really sank in that this was going to be really about death. Yeah, I Know I just said let's not talk about it on mic because don't give them that. But I have been like thinking about it more. I think because it occurred to me a few weeks ago that I should probably put like a will together because there's a certain amount of money now. And I was like, I wouldn't want that to just go somewhere.

I was like, I want to leave all that to my sister. And then I started to think about like, well, I should probably do it soon because it's probably likelier that I'll die here. You know what I mean? I thought about like somewhere I'm going later in the month and I'm like, well, that's a spot that could get attacked. And I'm like thinking to myself,

and then I was like, I was hearing myself think. And I was like, what is this a product of? Is it a product of our current landscape? Is it a product of me getting a little bit older? Is it the pandemic that made death very real? I think it is all of the above. It's hard to extricate one factor from another. Right. We're just older. We're older and also death is all around us. And I think that it would be impossible to, because I think about this too, where it's like giving birth during the pandemic, my daughter being in the NICU, my writing partner, for those of you who don't know,

my songwriting partner died a week after my daughter was born. It is hard to extricate her being in the NICU, from it being COVID, from him dying of it. Like, I don't know if you'd isolated each of these incidents, how each one would feel in a vacuum. It's hard. It is all one experience. It's all one.

You can't, when you start pulling apart those threads, I don't know, who knows? But at Will's, I mean, yeah. I mean, we have a kid, so we've made a Will. Yeah, yeah. And it's all- Have you made one? It's all getting left to you, I should say.

No? Rachel, that's so nice. This is the moment that I admit. all have you made it's all getting left to you. I should say Yes, it all goes to you Wow, honestly, and I was expecting it but I didn't want to say it's like it's like nomination morning You know what I mean? Like I was coming here today thinking is she giving me is she bequeathing me by the way bequeath? That's a funny word for it's so good. Has anyone done a pun like bequeath. That's a funny word for a sad thing. It's so good bequeath. Has anyone done a pun like bequeath? I don't know. You are the one to do it. Oh, I bequeath my, ooh.

That's a good one. I don't know what that was. The bequeath the broad-oed. Ooh. Yeah, imagine if that was how I queathed. Ah. Musically. Do you have a tone?

I used to fall. That's what happens when I fart. Now I just fall down. Do your queath you have a tone? That's what happens when I fart. Do your cleaves have a tone to them? No, they are... Pure air. They're pure air. If I've just taken a bath, they sound like the world's nastiest diarrhea fart.

Can I ask you a question? I love that sound though. It's like... I know you'll answer this. Yeah. Squirting. I don't, I'm not a squirter. You never have? I remember, I have memories of being in,

like when I first started masturbating, of like squirting, I think it was pee. I think I had to pee and I like masturbated three times in a row and then the pee just got forced out. Because it hasn't happened since. And it didn't feel, you remember how it felt? It felt like, oh I just peed myself.

It's crazy when you watch, because sometimes I do watch straight porn and I will get into some squirting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watch squirting porn. And I like it because the actresses are just like, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH And I'm like it looks like and then that's what I get upset like sometimes I'm like I wish that I could experience that I know do you wish this I absolutely do I think it's Feeling so I try to look at squirting porn when it's very clearly water coming out of the urethra It's not squirting porn when it's very clearly water coming out of the urethra. Because there's a theory that it is just piss or whatever.

So when it's very clearly a stream coming out of that second hole, I don't like it because I'm like, ah, that's just peeing. When it's like there's something that happens sometimes during squirting porn where it just fucking gushes out and you can't tell where it's coming from. And it could be from the vagina. That's the squirting porn. That's the fantasy for me. When it's the stream coming out of the urethra, then it's not fantasy.

Cause it's like, you're just pissing yourself. Some people, people squirt. There's this theory that it comes from something called the skein's gland. Skein's gland. That they've analyzed it and like some of it is piss. The juries, the jury's still out on whether or not squirt is piss. And by the way, like that's how far behind we are on studying a woman's body.

I was gonna say, like shouldn't we know this? We didn't know what the clit was. The clitoris is an iceberg. It's tip of the iceberg with all of these nerves that extend into like your vagina, your butthole. We didn't know about that until like. Have I used the floor? So funny.

This is Barbie. When did we find out about this? I wanna say it started in the 60s, but then it was actually mapped in like the 80s. This is the way over half the world gets sexual pleasure. And we still are like... The recency of this shit reminds me that there's this great piece in the cut

that came out in January when you were doing the show at the Orpheum. You did some research. Well, no, of course. We read the cut every morning. We read the cut every morning. Oh, okay. No, but I was reading this back in January.

Emily Gould, I think, she wrote it. But the writer did a great job of saying, the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend was very much ahead of its time in terms of the mental health discourse that we've had. And I think the special will also kind of have this like lasting relevance and permanence because the way we think about death has been permanently altered since the pandemic. It's like, everyone is a little bit, let's just say like,

not crazier, but just we're all like a little bit more like destabilized by the idea of like death being everywhere. And even if you're, because look, I think a lot of people, look, myself included, it's you want to move on from the pandemic, you want to not think about it, you want to see things as back to normal. But there's no denying that everyone went, we went through a world mass trauma. And something I ask in a specialist, how do you acknowledge death but continue to live? trauma and something I ask in the specialist, how do you acknowledge death but continue to live? How do you not completely compartmentalize the idea

that death is going to happen because that leaves you unprepared, right? And we need to be prepared for the next pandemic. And when they say, you know, lock down or wear a mask, we need to understand where that's coming from as opposed to it being this random foreign thing. But you can't let it consume you because we're all gonna die and that's a from as opposed to it being this random foreign thing. But you can't let it consume you because we're all gonna die and that's a part of life.

Everything that's alive dies. Also American culture is not, is so anti-death. It's so like bootstraps, the green light at the end of the dock. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's all like look to the future. I think other cultures are better about integrating death. Which is why going back, even for I think secular people,

going back to like religious ritual when someone dies is really telling that there is a ritual that like, I'm an atheist, I still crave ritual. There's something grounding about it that our American culture isn't providing, especially when it comes to death. There literally is no space. Let's just even talk about like, oh, like you grieve, you're bereft, and then come back to work in like a week. Yeah.

It's like there is something nice about like, let's say like sitting shiver or like doing like an Asian kind of funeral where it's like a full week or two weeks or whatever. You know, it's like. There's a reason that there's a time that, yeah, there's like a week or two in so many cultures because you need that time to process. And I talked to a lot of people who saw the live show, who came up and talked to me after the show. And like, there were numerous people who were like,

my mom died two years ago. And people are like, okay, when are you gonna be over this? And that you can tell people are uncomfortable around death. There's this amazing camp called Camp Comfort Zone. It's a grief camp for children. Wow. And I went up for a day to see it a couple months ago

because my friend wrote a movie that we're trying to get made about these children's grief camps. And I was talking to some of the kids there and they're like, some of them were saying like, I even get bullied because a parent died. I'm like, what is that? What do you mean they're bullying? And they were just saying like, people are uncomfortable.

They don't know what to say. They don't know what to do. So some people don't wanna talk about it. Some people need to make jokes. We're so uncomfortable because we think it could then happen to us. And for so long, I think I put people dying suddenly in this far off place of, well, this is something

that happens in far off countries, this doesn't happen to me. And then it happened and it's like, oh no, yeah, this could happen. And that's why having a baby during that time was so triggering because babies, you're told that there are so many ways babies are fragile and can die and babies can't do shit. It's called the fourth trimester because human babies

are born premature because it has to do with, I apologize to any scientists, I think it's as our brains got bigger, our heads got bigger, but also we became bipedal so our hips narrowed and the two don't work together. And so basically to get children out of the birth canal before the mother dies, they have to be born premature. So human babies are especially really, really helpless.

Yeah. Crazy that like evolutionarily that like works out for us. Also it's still a work in progress. No, totally. Like we're still evolving. that like evolutionarily that like works out for us. Because like- Also it's still a work in progress. No, totally. Like we're still evolving. Nature kind of hasn't figured this out yet. Right, but I'm saying like the only reason

we've lasted this long as bipedal animals with whatever like developing brains as we're out of the womb, it's like, it's because literally it's because we have thumbs. Because we can hold our infants. Yes. That is kind of the only, right? Yeah. It's thumbs. Thumbs are so important. But is kind of the only, right? It's thumbs.

Thumbs are so important. But there is a thing though, babies, you'll see. I couldn't hold the baby like this. No, you can't hold the baby like that. I used to float. There is a thing babies do where a little baby, you'll see them go, and what that is. I still do that, sorry, go.

What that is is I feel like I wake up doing this. So that's an instinct of when we were still apes and lived in trees, that a baby would grab the mom so it'd not fall out of the tree. Whoa! So you see a little baby go, drink! Would you characterize the feelings that you, cause you don't really call it this in the special,

but would you call it postpartum anxiety, what you had? Yeah, I mean, I kind of had some prepartum anxiety too. Like I had, being nauseous made me very anxious and depressed, especially my first trimester. Yeah, ooh, and were you very nauseous? I was very nauseous in my first trimester. Yeah, I think I had postpartum anxiety, but it was so wrapped up in grief

and the pandemic. Would I have had postpartum anxiety? But yes. It just reminds me of one of those things like we were talking about, like, you know, all the nerve endings and like that that we're not talking about, like that women have like, it's like, you know, I think maybe because I watch like some Real Housewives shows, like, and I hear them use the words postpartum anxiety, which is different than postpartum depression. And like, you just don't hear it talked about, but you have to imagine that people,

women have been experiencing postpartum anxiety forever. Yeah. But you feel like it's only recently something that's being differentiated from postpartum depression or being differentiated from any other feeling that you would have as a new mom or like an impending mother. Because anxiety is... you can cover anxiety a little bit more. Because anxiety is a...

You can be proactive about it. I'm on Prozac for anxiety. I'm much more of a proactive spiraler and that includes my intrusive thoughts where it's like My thoughts go on overload and the way my psychiatrist had described it was it was kind of two sides of the same Pendulum or it's like the pendulum swings anxiety depression, but it's fundamentally the same Chemical imbalances going on I think yeah I think that like we think postpartum depression and the image is someone laying around unable to function. I can't look at my kid.

Postpartum anxiety is- Can't look away. And I think that also like women are neurotic. So it's, I mean, there's so much I think that we're still realizing about the way mental health has been portrayed for years, like in the media that like a character's like neurotic. It's like, oh, well, they should have been medicated, right?

Totally like I feel like anxiety Because it's active masks itself as other things and depression is so undeniable where it's like someone laying around who can't do anything like in the commercial for like What's Latuda? I feel like Latuda is one of the commercials I've seen. I think I feel like that's sort of bipolar, but it's like Someone laying around is very easy for an actor to act out as opposed to like Yeah, the complexities of like what the fuck is going on. What it looks like what I'm having And ever since I up my Prozac I actually haven't had a proper like intrusive thought.

I don't know the intrusive thought and anxiety they kind of go together. It's complicated Yeah, but what either way when I'm anxious what it looks like is this it looks like Yeah, yeah, because I go into freeze right there's fight flight freeze. I go into freeze So how do you in a commercial for the Tuta? How do you get across someone? Closed up on the eyes That's less evocative than like. Yeah, then like. Totally.

I used to fall in love. I'm sorry about that. Wait, Donnie, can we get a tight close on Rachel's eyes as she does an anxiety, a neurosis. So this is what the ad should be. TCA. Give it to her for drama. Who won drama the year you won comedy, do you know?

You said it, I think it was Sarah Paulson. Oh, I love that. Iconic, have you guys ever met? I think once. You ever rubbed statues? Ew. Matthew. Well, on that note.

Like literally like a statue rubbing up against another statue. Barbie sex, doll sex? What is the TCA, what is it? Is it a little man? No, it's a glass. Oh yeah, it's a glass thing you said, because it almost broke. Well.

Men can be glass and women can be Siri. But your enemy is famously a woman. When I won the TCA, there was, I want to say it was a guy who wasn't even in the organization anymore, he was there. He was kind of groping me right in front of my husband. It was like a problem. And I was so afraid of like making him mad at me. I didn't do anything.

Now I would be like, hey, no. But he was like, he kept trying to like ply me with more drinks and he was like getting grabby with my waist and Gregor was right there and he and I were both it was so weird We didn't know what to do because we were like laughing it off Now now I think I would have been like yo, dude. Yeah Why do you think now you would is that is it because you're a mom? I think now we're post me too. Yeah God that really was pre. And also I'm...

Wow. Whoa. I was in my late twa... No, I was, maybe I was, I had just turned three. I don't know. I'm older now and I'm just like... And I think I also... Everything seems so tenuous that first year or two of the show.

That you don't want to mess it up. Where it's like, oh, if I get mad at someone, I'm going to ruin this. Now I'd be like, you know what? Me telling one guy to keep his hands off me is not gonna ruin my career in fact He deserves to be called out right we're in much more of a culture of like that's not okay Yeah, yeah, but I'm still you know what there was a guy who came up to me after like my off-Broadway show and he was like there with his son, and he like kissed me on the cheek. And I went I went whoa and I didn't know what to do because it wasn't even it wasn't gross and gropey it was just weird. A little familiar. Yeah. And I went okay and I didn't know what to say. I didn't say how fucking

dare you. I didn't know what to do and then that guy came back to his credit and he went, Hey, I realized the other day I kissed you on the cheek. That was over. That was weird. I'm sorry. He's like, my son pointed out that was weird. All right. But like, it's a lot harder. It's very easy to say, and this is a whole other thing about like sexual harassment. It's very easy to say, like, if someone touches you in a way you say no. When you're actually in the moment and someone is getting droopy or touching. It's it's really hard we don't give

Anyone a template for being a Denier or a rejecter. Yeah, we don't learn we don't practice saying no we don't practice boundaries We talk about it. And it's a like, you know, Instagram poetry, like you go girl, you know, it's like the like, if someone is in your space, tell them to get out of your space. How do you actually do that?

We don't practice that enough. There are almost no, I mean, not to connect dots too much, but like, it's this thing of like acknowledgement. Like we don't know how to acknowledge these very prevalent, whatever, these like facts of life about with like death or with like people being violatory or something. It's like, how do you, to point it out

as like the hardest part and yet it is like the first thing that has to happen in order for anything to like be better? Does that make sense? Yeah, I know. I was also thinking about like now when someone is in a scandal or whatever, the way that they get out of it is like,

they just don't say anything, they make it go away. Which is the opposite of what we're taught as a kid is to apologize. But I feel like not all apologies, but I feel like the more you say, even though we're taught to apologize, the more it makes things worse sometimes, which is like such a fucked up weird lesson.

Yeah. Not always, not always. There are some good apologies. And a lot of the time, when someone's apologizing for like a scandal, it's because they're also explaining it. They're not actually apologizing. They're giving a very defensive explanation.

I don't know. But like, as having a kid now, I think about this. Like, what do I tell her about personal boundaries? And I tell her, like, if someone hugs you, say, I don't want to be hugged right now. And they're getting, she's very good about that. And I want to keep that into her teenage and adulthood because she's not ashamed about saying,

I don't want to give a hug right now. And like, keep that. Totally. That's great. She already drank her juice. Drinking juice and spilling tea. I already drank my juice. Drink juice and spill tea is title of that.

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and a roundup of the weekly headlines. Listen to The Daily Show, Ears Edition on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't think So Honey is now the segment that we're going to do. And also what I say to anyone who comes to me and wants to hug. Just kidding. I actually am a hugger. Oh, I'm a hugger too. I know we're all huggers here. Need someone to hug me close.

I don't think So Honey is a segment. Do you have any notes on the last episode that you really wanted to hit before we do it? Oh, no, this is a, I talk about in the episode, I talk about talking to Adam. That I had been in town, I think doing some press events with Adam. He really was the best. He was the best. And so I think we had just done, we did a thing at Lincoln Center in that beautiful

room that overlooks We'd done like a crazy ex concert anyway, so listening to that and that's you know, he's now gone and be like Oh, but in that episode he's alive. I know Yeah, I think in the episode we also just talked about I'm sure we went on about Fountain's away and about his genius and about the show obvious I don't know if we did but I but noted we and about the show, obviously. I don't know if we did, but noted. We have on the show. We have, we've certainly talked about it on the show. I put on my sunglasses not for that,

but for I Don't Think So Honey. Of course you must. This is like the good energy to bring into it. I am doing an I Don't Think So Honey today, and it's sort of pointing inward, but I'm actually gonna flip the form a little bit, and I'm gonna connect it to the iconic 400, which we just did, because we forgot somebody. And so I'm going to connect it to the iconic 400, which we just did because we forgot somebody.

So I'm going to do I'm going to use this time to give that person their flowers. This is amazing. Okay. This is Matt Rogers. This is I don't think so. And his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. We didn't put Barbara Streisand on the iconic 400.

And this is a huge mistake. And I'm going to use the let's say 50 seconds from now on to give you more than 30. You would have gotten Barbara Streisand. You are the one and the only. I didn't grow up with anything that wasn't Funny Girl. We were a Funny Girl house. In fact, we were such a Funny Girl house that we were also a funny lady house.

Now here's the thing about Funny Lady. Not as good as Funny Girl, but if you really wanna get into the FGCU, the Funny Girl Cinematic Universe, you have to watch Funny Lady, in which Fanny Bryce has another relationship that proves to be challenging Because when you are Fanny Bryce you have a lot of responsibilities You have a lot of complexities you have a lot to live up to and you have

These men in your life who are gonna like not necessarily give you their best because they're not good with themselves and Barbara You nailed that you nail it all the time. You are one of the greatest singers of all time. I can't believe it's only five seconds. Barbara Streisand, welcome to the Icon of 400 in theory. I don't think so, honey, that we forgot you the first time. And that's one minute. The funny girl cinematic universe.

The FGCU. The FGCU. Oh my God. That is such an oversight. We forgot her, and that was crazy. Barbara, back in Brooklyn. Back in Brooklyn. Oh.

That was one of the great concerts. Basutti and I went to go see Barbara Streisand at the Barclays Center. Oh, wow. 2016. It was 2016, and she of course got political. And there was one woman, like 15 rows behind us, we already were in bed seats,

the one woman in the entire Barclays Center at Barbara Streisand that was like, shut up! Shut up! Shut up! This one Trump woman screaming in the back. What did you think was going to happen when you came to Barbra in like, in Brooklyn, October 2016? I love people with weird,

there's a bit that I've been wanting to do. Like I want to have like a merch section of my website and I don't know how to do this, which is called bumper stickers for no one, which would have bumper stickers that don't describe anyone. And like one of my ideas is like, I'm a gun totin, Bible thumpin, Nathan Lane super fan and I vote. What is someone that doesn't exist? Trump or at a Streisand concert? I'm a Barbra Streisand trucker and I vote. I love like yeah that doesn't make but there's

someone there's one person out there I bet. There's definitely a Nathan Lane super fan. Nathan Lane or Nathan Fielder? Nathan Lane. Nathan Lane. First for a second I thought you said Nathan. I'm willing to bet that there are more More Trump people like Nathan Fielder than Trump and Nathan Fielder fans and Nathan Lane fans, of course Because they're like this weird humors. Although Nathan Lane was in the Lion King and do they love the Lion King? But I don't know if they're Nathan like you'd have to who knows a lot about Nathan Lane Who is it? Who's a gun toten by the thumb? Lindsey Graham. Yeah, they're out there. Yeah, they're out there I love those people who are anomalies where it's like you don't make sense. You're building fun Venn diagrams. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

I had an art teacher in High school who was like had like a cool haircut and like played Aretha Franklin for us And she was also the track coach and also the, and she was a guidance counselor. She did all these things and she was like, we would always jam, we would always eat lunch together. And I remember she loved Adam Lambert, she was so obsessed and she was a hardcore Republican. Yeah, it's just like, people are out there doing their thing.

But also when we were growing up, but also Republicans, the country was less pressure. It meant something different. It was more open to like your personal interpretation and with some people it was just more fiscal. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what it was. I actually, but I remember it took me back even then and now it's like those people that were, you know, you knew with like way back when that were Republicans, you kind of wonder where they're falling now. I just ran into a friend who is Mormon, still Mormon, and I go, and we talked about church, and I didn't even ask her about political stuff.

I went, oh, are you still going to church? She goes, yep, I go to church every Sunday, and I vote for whoever I want. Okay. That to me means probably a good thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not, I'm unburdened. That's what she meant. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, and I was like to me means probably a good thing Okay, Bowen Yang Jeff, I don't think so honey today I'm gonna do something and I just confirmed it by searching through the the list of the iconic 400 and we also there's another

Emission. Okay, good. We're making things right. This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey. His time starts now I don't think so honey us for His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Us for not including Whitney Houston in the iconic 400. I cannot believe that we as gay music loving men did not acknowledge the template formed with Whitney Houston, someone who went through tremendous personal challenges to give us some of the most celebrated music in the last 40 years, let's say 50 years. I'm not gonna make it time bound, but I can't believe that we would do that as gay. to give us some of the most celebrated music in the last 40 years, let's say 50 years. I'm not gonna make it time bound, but I can't believe that we would do that as gays.

You all have permission to walk up to us in a public setting and chastise berets. Hit us. There are no boundaries. We left out Whitney Houston and Barbra Streisand from the Iconic 400. I'm here to apologize. This is, it's not an apologize if,

it's an apologize that we left out Whitney Houston. Five seconds. I apologize that we offended you. Same. That we disappointed the community. Same. Sing for them. I have not seen her in concert like you have seen Barbara.

That is one minute. Do you wanna sing something from Whitney? For the night and you went, you and your boys went out to eat. Then they went out. from Whitney. I found your credit card receipt It's not right, but it's okay I'm gonna make it anyway Put your bag up and leave Don't you dare come running back to me Yeah, I think we got it across. We got it across

Glasses off From a vocalist, this means everything. Oh my god. It was great. Did you come prepared today with I Don't Think So Honey? I did. I knew you did. Glasses off for this. All right, here we go. Get ready.

This is Rachel Bloom's I Don't Think So Honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. I'm talking to you, rowdy 14-year-old boys in children's parks. I don't think so, honey. When you're standing on the swing that my daughter's waiting to sit on and actually use to get you to the park, I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey.

I'm talking to you, rowdy 14-year-old boys in children's parks. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I don't think so, honey. I'm talking to you, rowdy 14 year old boys in children's parks. I don't think so, honey. When you're standing on the swing that my daughter's waiting to sit on and actually use the swing properly

and you're rattling the swing. That's not my problem. I don't think so, honey. You are not meant to go on these jungle gyms and step on my child's hand. I don't think so, honey. Here's the thing. If this were hundreds of years ago,

you'd already be a father You'd already be you already be a man go home and be a man go home and do your homework, honey Parks are not for you anymore I don't think so honey If you want to go and build a park for post pubescent boys or should I say men? That's your business But my child wants to go on the slide and you are sticking it up with your teenage Bo And you are scaring her you're stomping with your friends

And you're laughing and I can just tell that you're probably gonna smoke I don't think so honey do not step on my children's hands And that's what I just keep I just feel like there are a lot of hands getting stepped on. I don't think so honey Yes, that was really important Rachel So I have to confront this. Makes me so sad. So I have to confront myself here. Because last week I took my parents to like a vacation spot and there was a pool with a slide.

And I said to myself, oh fun, a slide. And then it said on there, you must be under 14 to do the slide. And I remember my first instinct was to be like, well this is ageist and I want to do the slide. And I remember my first instinct was to be like, well this is ageist and I want to do the slide. And then I was like, Matt you are 34. You did the slide so many times in a time that it was appropriate for you, it's just not appropriate for you to do this slide. This slide. Slides in general you can go you can go to any water park and do the slide. Seriously. Yeah. This slide, it's okay. Let the kids play on the slide. Here's what I would argue that you could have done the slide. Because here's

what my I think so honey was about. I actually have no problem with middle schoolers or like high schoolers coming to a park and using things properly in an organized non-rowdy way. If you're 15 or 16 and you want to actually go on the swings for an appropriate amount of time, I get it I do that too. Yeah, it's the thing where they stand on the swing And they shake the fucking thing and then they're running around and like they're not They're not using the equipment right properly You being on that slide is fine with me is there with the resort totally

Do you feel compelled to speak to these teenagers? I'm not gonna get fucking Karen, no. Totally. No. Totally. And I was gonna ask like... No, I just give them withering glances and you know what? They don't notice, nor do they care.

And you also don't seem to notice? My daughter, she doesn't care. I'm the only person caring. That's important. Even when her hand is stomped on? Even when she was young, I don't think she remembers it. Oh.

But like, God, what I would struggle with as a parent is to be like, I wanna yell at these other kids, but I can't. I know. It's hard. God, I mean, other kids are fucking rotten. I also don't wanna get made fun of by middle schoolers again. I already went through that in middle school. I'm a little afraid of the withering things they'll say to me

if I'm like, excuse me, my child wants to use the swings We'll talk about no boundaries. Yeah, just be like shut up fucking bitch I mean they'll just and then I'll and then I'd start crying Yeah, they'd be like you really just felt you could say that and just did exactly exactly I don't want to have someone yell at me because that's the thing about Middle school boys is that they'll just say something really vicious to harm you. Whereas like middle school girls will like, they're starting to develop like passive aggressiveness and like social bullying. But middle school boys will just be like verbally violent.

Yeah, yeah. But middle school girls are more like, okay I'll get off the swing. And then like they'll be talking to each other and like looking at you and you know they're being mean, but they still got off the swing. It's psychological as opposed to like visceral. Yeah. Here's- Well I. You know they're being mean, but they still got off the swing. It's psychological as opposed to visceral. Yeah. I don't know that those are binary, but. I get what you're saying. It's non-binary.

This is- Unlike Siri. Unlike, fuck. Siri is a woman. Siri is a cis woman. Siri is cis. Serving me. How do we feel about the trope of, Cis woman. Cis woman. Serious cis. Serving me. Yeah. How do we feel about the trope of, let's say it's a grounded comedy dramedy, adults

on a swing at night for like a really close intimate sort of like exchange. Oh, I think it's overdone. I think. Oh, as a trope. I think it's, if seeing in real life, it's very sweet. So many parks aren't open at night. Right. That's actually the problem is that parks are closed.

I kind of, I don't think I minded it in movies either. If I see it in real life, then I go, why are those two grown ass people sitting on the swing? I go sex offender. And then I start calling the police. Cause I'm Karen. And I get them down there. I think that's the right way to do it.

If I see adults at night on a playground I go sex offender And I get my phone out and I go nine one one my girls I go yes, Kamala This is Matt. I need you down here This is Matt. I need you down here. Thank you for your service. And thank you. Thin blue line.

Rachel Bloom for coming. I can't believe this is only your second time. Second time. In seven and a half years. We can't take this on a break again. Have me on every week. Honestly. I'll just sit here. I don't even need to say anything. I'll just. But you could. I'll pretend to be like your backup pianist

with no piano. Yes, you're a Paul Schaefer. That's good stuff. But look, Rachel shows up and the conversation flows, baby. This is great. Death Let Me Do My Special. October 15th. You can stream it now on Netflix.

And we suggest that you do. And give it a double thumbs up because that helps the algorithm. Yes, algorithmically. Isn't that weird? As opposed to a single thumbs up. Just any sort of reaction to it, but the double thumbs up. I mean, a single thumbs up is also good,

but how often do you do that on Netflix though? Not often. I never do it. I just started doing it. I did it for a show about mermaids that my daughter liked, because I'm like, I gotta start paying it forward. We gotta move out of Gabby's dollhouse. So there's this show, it's called like,

is Mermaid Academy, it is a whole thing. They have cornered, Netflix has figured out the little girl brain. Uh-huh. Scary. That sounds creepy, but it's not. Okay, if you say so. Daniel the Tiger, is that Netflix?

No, that's- It's PBS. PBS, oh boy. Oh, well that's the one to one watch PBS is great. We'd love And with that thought we end every episode with a song It's not right, but it's okay Close the door behind you, leave your keys. I'd rather be alone than I'll not be. I'll, I'll, you're making a fool of me. I'll, I'll, you're making a fool of me.

Bye. Yay! Lost Cultures is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and I Heart Radio Podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers, letting you know tickets are on sale now to see me on tour. The Prince of Christmas tour, that is. I'm doing my whole album, Have You Heard of Christmas? Plus a lot more with the whole band all throughout December. Go to www.mattroggersofficial.com to see me in a city near you.

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