Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Drinkin' The Soda” (w/ Brittany Snow)

Episode Date: November 19, 2025

True symbol of excellence and full fledged icon Brittany Snow finally joins Las Cultch after Matt + Bow recorded an episode in her NAME all those months ago in Ptown! The three discuss attending teen ...clubs in Orlando, memories from American Dreams, how Brittany is a Kingdom Hearts legend, and auditioning twice for Hairspray. Also, finding the tone of Hunting Wives, being the party ringleader on the Pitch Perfect set, psychics and hypnotists, and the grace, power and heat of Malin Akerman. All this, Meg Ryan culture, whether or not romantic comedies are ust glorified love bombing, dust, advanced light switches and hospital shows being too fucking much when they're really fucking good. Watch all of Brittany's shows! She's killing it! Literally, it's a lot of murder! The Hunting Wives, Murdaugh: Death In The Family and The Beast In Me are all available now. "You c*nts..." - Katie LowesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:16 It's me, Matt Rogers. And in the words of another Christmas icon, it's time. I'm back with my new nationwide tour, Matt Rogers, Christmas in December. it's time to remember when Christmas is. I'm hit in the road all of December with Henry Kuperski in the whole band performing my album. Have you heard of Christmas along with a bunch of other little surprises?
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Starting point is 00:03:08 Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture, yes. Oh, goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling. Well, you have come from an interesting event. Oh, that's right. Yeah. I was just with Manon, Sophia, Daniela, Junche, Megan, and Sophia. Did I repeat some names? You might have sent Sophia twice. Lara, I was. Lara, of course.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I'm like a Lara Raj. How could I forget? And you know what? That's the power of Sophia. She gets mentioned twice. Sophia, you go, girl. Sophia, you go, girl. I was with Katzai.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Dancing with them? I was not dancing with them, but I was shooting a video that should be out by now, but the time this comes out. But, God, those girls are truly incredible. They have a great bounty of talent. Oh, great fortune. They have a great fouchin. Fouchin.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Anthony Fouchin. Who? What did you? I said bounty and fortune at the same time. Fouchon is actually really powerful. Well, it's actually a local culture number of 60. When you say bounty and fortune at the same time, you get Fountain. Well, those girls of Katzai have a great fountian of beauty and talent.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Youth and talent and work ethic. And they're so sweet. funny as hell. I mean, that EP, beautiful chaos, excellent. I mean, obviously, we're like the last people telling people to the stream. They're like machines. As are you, my friend. My dearest friend. You're one of the most famous dancers now.
Starting point is 00:04:39 That's not true. That's not true. Don't challenge me. Well, I flopped on this dance. I must say because the choreo that Katzai does is... Was it difficult? Incredible. Like, you have no idea. We got to talk to our guest about choreo because I want to know what Adam Shankman made this.
Starting point is 00:04:56 condo. Our guest has hit the step for decades. Absolutely. It's actually Real Culture No. 50. Britney Snow has hit the step for decades. And it was a lot of fun. Check it out. It comes out Halloween. They do fun Halloween stuff, these girls. I bet they do. Yeah. Because you're going to love this Halloween thing. Really? Is it
Starting point is 00:05:14 a special? At this point, it's out. So they got dogged online because at the VMAs on the red carpet, a lovely correspondent from Billboard asked them. We're celebrating Mariah tonight. What is your one by one? Let's go around one by one, your favorite Mariah video. And these girls, they're young. They don't know.
Starting point is 00:05:31 They're babies. It's a little bit before their time. Babies don't necessarily know about Mariah. It's actually real coach number 15. Babies don't necessarily know about Mariah. So they were stumped. And then of course, like, you know, a certain millennial sect, you know, sect of gay men especially. The worst.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Kind of was like, oh, these girls, you know, open the schools. These girls don't know. And so for their Halloween thing this year, they are all dressed up as their favorite Maria video look. I love that. They paid respects. They pay respects. And there's a great, broad sort of gamut of Mariah looks that I think will please a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And I'm sure the millennial gays will now put their weapons down and leave the girls alone. But I was talking to the girls and they were like, we love her. We love her so much. We just like we couldn't think of like any videos. And like we watched all of them and like they're so. Cats, I come on the show. Cats, I come on the show. We'll gab.
Starting point is 00:06:20 You're invited. We'll gab. All right. Well, speaking of if they open the schools, I believe that. our guest is in all the textbooks in the schools. Absolutely. Because she actually is an incredibly part, big part of pop culture. In so many different lanes and ways and verticals, I'll say.
Starting point is 00:06:38 I remember when I first saw the guest. When? On television. Oh. There was a preview for a new show called American Dreams. And the star of it was this absolutely gorgeous ray of light. And I remember being a young gay. And I said, that's a star.
Starting point is 00:06:54 That is a superstar. that whose name we will know. I believe she even got one of those like and introducing Britney Snow's. She got an an introducing. I think she did. She's making a face that would suggest I'm wrong, but in my mind,
Starting point is 00:07:08 it was American Dreams and introducing Britney Snow. Oh, that sounds so right. It hits the ear, perfect. She's the star of the cultural phenomenon that is the hunting lives. Murdoch Murdoch. Sophie. Is on Hulu now.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So much more. I said Sophie. Sophie was the name of her character Different from Sophia Right But let's say Sophie twice Just to make it fair Sophie
Starting point is 00:07:31 Yes And And I guess I could say On Las Culture Recess And now And introducing Britney Snow Yes
Starting point is 00:07:43 It is a phenomenon that you're here No I'm just so delighted And honored It's not a phenomenon I was gonna come here Regardless
Starting point is 00:07:51 What do you want We want to be here or not No for us It's a phenomenon We want you here. Yeah, it's a personal phenomenon for us. Oh, no, no. It's, I mean, this is the most lovely introduction, though.
Starting point is 00:08:01 I do not feel like I'm in this category whatsoever, but thanks. Was it an introducing Britney Snow? It might have been. If it was for you, then that's why not. I just remember, like, that's a huge deal, though. Like, you're, I guess you've been acting since you were a kid kid kid. A kid kid, like a baby. A Tampa kid.
Starting point is 00:08:20 A Tampa kid. My mom put me into those commercials when I was a baby. And so I have known no different. Yeah. Yeah. Just living the life, the hard life of a Tampa Child actor. It was hard. What was the hardest part?
Starting point is 00:08:34 The driving. The driving to Orlando, Florida. The 5 a.m.'s like getting in the back of my mom's van. She gets me one Dunkin' Donut on the way. Oh, just one. Pretty good. Strawberry glazed. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And I am in the audition at like 8.30, 9 o'clock in the morning. and I have to be on. I've got to be cute. Yeah. Pigtails always. Of course. Pigtails was the look? Well, around like six or seven, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 A braided pigtail? No, like two really annoying. Pippie long stocking vibes. Yeah. But does part of you, look, I wasn't even at all near this, like, sort of channel between Tampa and Orlando or anywhere in Florida feeding into central Florida. It just felt like such a 90s thing, like this aspirational 90s thing for kids for people our age where it was like, oh my God, well, you can like get your start in
Starting point is 00:09:26 Orlando. You could go to Orlando. Oh my God. And it was even worse that we were in Tampa. Like I was a Tampa kid. I was born and raised there. So it was almost like required that I was a part of dance and singing and stuff like that because there was pop stars coming out of Florida and everything was very Mickey related. And so yeah, I had no choice. So you were a Tampa kid who longed to be an Orlando kid. I did actually, especially because in my teenage years, Orlando had teen clubs called The Grooves. The groove was my mecca.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I would leave high school and go right from like high school Friday to Orlando and spend the weekend with my friends in Orlando and I would be at the teen clubs with like a cowboy hat. And like... This sounds heavenly honest. That was exactly what on the island I pictured it being. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But like no social media, no phones. We're just at the teen club. And you're going to... Your Stetsons. Yeah. What was like that big, um, human event of the galaxy is going to find the loving feels so good.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And that's what takes me high. Oh, wow. And then what are you throwing back? It's got a cowboy hat on is so wrong, but so right. So right. But what are you throwing back? Fruit juice. Diet coax.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Yes. Well, this was a time when there was no limits on soda. Now they've banned soda. It's almost like you can't even say the words Sprite. You can't even say the words. full fat Coke, they'll come for you. They'll come for you. They'll come for your kids. It was freedom back then. We really had it made.
Starting point is 00:10:56 I just remember being that, being like young and just watching my Nickelodeon and knowing that everyone on my television was at Universal Studios, Florida, filmed before a live studio audience, and I would run around in a circle just drinking soda until I passed out. I had the energy for it and the ability to consume it. And you just wanted to be at the groove so badly. Well, especially Tampa, you're talking about Tampa, you aspire to Orlando. Yeah. Like, Long Island, you aspire to Tampa so that you can even get close to, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But Florida had a different image then. It did. And I think because I've known, I know too much, you know. You know too much. Right. But here's a weird story is then after I was in the teen clubs in Orlando, I made it to Hollywood. You know, American Dreams is happening. I'm 15 when I do the pilot.
Starting point is 00:11:45 And then it gets really dark because there's teen clubs in Atlanta. It's a different flavor. It's a different flavor. Same fruit juice and same soda. But there's different stuff in the fruit juice. But there's different people in the fruit juice. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 There was a teen, like, club that behind a door, there was like an A-list portion of this club. Oh, no. It was at Hollywood and Highland. And basically if you were on like a CW show, but at the time it was WB, or if you were on any sort of like show, like Lizzie McGuire or something like that,
Starting point is 00:12:19 We were all back there in this room and we were all in this little, way smaller than this room, together, just drinking soda. Soda, quote, unquote, soda? Definitely soda. Definitely soda. We were 15, 16 years old. So does that engender a kind of like, oh, I get it. There's a hierarchy. There's a stratum.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Like, that's so, I mean, but I guess that happens everywhere, like in high school. You got to the head of the team club line if you were on a show, which was already so bizarre, but somehow we just knew that we go to the front of the last. So you were talking about this is like you and Hillary Duff drinking soda in the back. Lindsay and Rachel Wood, all the kids that were ever on 7th Heaven, you know, things like that, yeah. Ms. Beal.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Miss Beal was never there. She wasn't there? It was David. David. Oh, I loved David. Who was an in deepened in hearts with me. That's what I was going to, you know I'm going to. to ask you about Kingdom Hearts.
Starting point is 00:13:19 You pointed to Bowen-Yang and say Kingdom Hearts because you said, I want my video game cred. That's right. So I've had the Florida portion. Go ahead, take the Kingdom Hearts portion. This is a first for me. I have nothing specific prepared for you in the way of questioning.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Good. This is weird. What would you like to be asked about Kingdom Hearts? Truly anything because I do not remember doing it. Fine. Okay. I think I was 16 and I knew I was doing a video game. and I knew it had to do with Disney.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yep. And that's all I knew. Sure. So I remember, the only thing that I remember about that time is that the guy who was like the sound editor was really familiar with Christina Aguilera because he had just done Milan and she sang. Reflection.
Starting point is 00:14:06 And I wanted to know everything about Christina Aguilera. And so I just pumped him for information. But other than that, no clue. Lovely. So that's my one memory. That's how it is in the booth. Okay, and let's get real about the industry. Sometimes when you go into the vocal booth for these things, you go, sure, I'm playing a cat named Gary.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Okay. And I have no memory of it. I was in the vocal booth today. And do you remember anything you did? You just told us. I remember using my voice in all kinds of ways for an animated character. I'll blackout, ask me again in 25 years. Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Thank you guys for making me feel better about that. Of course, literally. You shouldn't feel any way about the kingdom hearts of it all. Thank you for being honest about it. But I will let you know. how important your character nominate is. Oh, that's so great. You never played it?
Starting point is 00:14:54 No, I don't, I've never played the game. I don't even know what I do. Okay, so you play, so in the world of this game. Terrible. Not terrible. Oh, please, not terrible. No, because this is going to be thrilling. Paint the picture. Well, first of all, you have a stacked cast.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Well, I'll get to that later. But in the world of Kingdom Hearts, the crossover game from Disney and Square Enix, famous, one of the best video game sort of distributors and companies of all time, Final Fantasy, it's their sort of mashup. And so Haley Joel Osmond plays Sora, Hayden Panetteer plays Kyrie, and David plays Riku. Anyway, the three of them start off on this island. They get dispersed when the heartless come and corrupt the soul of their planet. Now, in the process of getting your heart corrupted, you get a vessel of yourself, a copy of
Starting point is 00:15:44 yourself comes into the world named a nobody. Yes, I do remember saying me. So you are Hayden Panetteer's nobody. You are Hayden Panetteer's nobody. I mean, wasn't the first time. No, no, no, no, no. She was like, I wanted to save the world to be the cheerleader. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:16:02 At that time, hell yeah. Of course, but that was the role. Do you want to know some interesting, like, facts? Hayden Paneterre and I have known each other since I was 12 years old. She was played my little sister on a soap opera. No kidding. Was it guiding light? Guiding Light?
Starting point is 00:16:17 Wow. You were on Guiding Light? Yes. That was one of my first jobs and she was my little sister and we knew each other very well. We did a lot of scenes together. And she was like a baby person when we were on Guiding Light. I don't know, the difference between 8 and 12 is so vast for some reason. So I just looked so down to her and then when she was on Heroes, I was like, oh, she's like a human.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So when we did Kingdom Hearts, I did feel like, oh, this makes sense. We're playing connected again. So it makes, yeah, I'm a shell. Oh, no, I'm the nobody. No, no, no. I'm the shell of the person. You are Kyrie. I'm the shell of the person.
Starting point is 00:16:53 That tracks. No, no, this is, this is, no. I'm about to give one last year. I won't, I won't dwell too much on this. I just, I've always wanted to tell you like how. It's thrilling watching you. It's thrilling watching. Because now I feel like I really learned.
Starting point is 00:17:06 So Kyrie is so special. So these three kids, Sorrika and Kyra's are very special. And so. Kyrie gets turned into a heartless and so then she turns back to a human but then Nominee your character enters the world and because she is Kyrie's nobody she has the special power
Starting point is 00:17:25 to rearrange people's memories and you are a nominee gets recruited by the bad guys to basically like refabricate Sora Haley Joel Osman's memory and it's a profound thing this is I mean kind of ironic that you're speaking of memory because that jolted my memory.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. Because I, I remember having to do a scene about that, about how I got his memory back. Yes. Wow. Haven't thought about that in a Of course. This is a big part of Bowen Yang's formative culture. Oh, no. And there's still a very, very active community of people who adore that. It's a
Starting point is 00:18:01 formative, formative piece of pop culture history. And video, it's one of the most pop cultural, like, video game items ever. And so, and then Haley Joel Osmond's nobody is play, is Roxas, is played by Jesse McCartney. It's like it was, it was such, it was.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So who's who of the stars of that time? It was kids who were in the A-list of the LA clubs. It was all the soda drinkers. Yeah, we were back there drinking soda. Yeah. A lot of these names were drinking the soda. Yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Drinking the soda might be title of it. Drinking the soda. What was your order? Do you remember? I mean, I just remember being so excited to go back in this room. Yeah. That like, I don't even know if I drank soda. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I think I was just looking around like, I too could one day be on the WB, you know? Like, that's, that was the pinnacle for me. Absolutely. Who NBC, American Dreams. I know. I wanted to be with the frog.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Well, the top hat. The frog and the top hat. But speaking, we were just talking before we started about how like when you're in Florida and you're, because this was also the time of Mickey Mouse Club. Yeah. Like that was something that you wanted
Starting point is 00:19:03 but were just a smidge too young. Yes, that was, I aspired to be, that's all I wanted was to be on the Mickey Mouse Club. I would practice. I would tell my mom when I was going to do in my audition. And yeah, I was too young. Just think of where I could have been.
Starting point is 00:19:17 But then you book Prestige TV. There you go. I mean, not right away. Oh, you mean American Dreams? I think American dreams. Like, I just remember watching it with my family and it being like so dramatically potent. I would be so curious to go back and watch it now.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah. Your older brother and that was hot. It's weird to say he was. This is a memory. I just jogged my own memory of it. I was like, I think he was one of my first like crushes. Oh, that makes sense. It would have been one of my first things of like, hmm, like when a dog sees, like, sees...
Starting point is 00:19:45 When a dog realizes it's gay? You know, like, when a dog realizes it's gay? Yeah. Because it sees the older brother for American dreams. That was kind of me. That was more. It was very that. It was very that.
Starting point is 00:19:56 The ears. One of the best things about that show was one of its features, one of the things that made it serrated, was that a different guest star would come in and play a guest star from American bandstand. And we were just talking about a couple, like, Ashanti. was Dionne Warwick. Like, you know, Kelly Clarkson was Brenda Lee. I think in one of the first episodes.
Starting point is 00:20:16 What? Yes. In like the third episode, she played Brenda Lee. We talk about it every time I go on the show. I'm like, can you believe that that was one of your first jobs? Yeah. I mean, she just won American Idol. So do you have any memories of like particular people coming through?
Starting point is 00:20:30 Do you have a favorite memory of someone? Because at the time you're like fully the star of the show, but also like a kid who's got idol worship. Usher came on and was Marvin Gay. And that was really cool. He was so lovely. Yeah. And he, like, danced a little bit. And I remember that that was really cool.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I also, everyone was so lovely. There was, like, two people that I won't name. Sure. Yeah. That broke my soul because they were sort of mean. And I was like, you're getting to play an iconic person. Like, this is a cool little job. Of course.
Starting point is 00:21:02 When you're mean, you're mean. Yeah. Who wasn't mean, though, who I just sat behind at the VMAs, which is a bizarre sentence to say, was Paris Hilton. played, um, uh, um, she was a Barbara, Barbara, I Dream of Jeannie. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Thanks, Doug. Thank you go. I was like, yeah. I think he just perked up like a dog over there about Barbara Eden. Um, oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was lovely, actually, like, really lovely.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I mean, you were getting this like pretty cool glimpse, like on maybe not a weekly basis or whatever the cadence was, but like, you get this glimpse into like how like different case studies on like how fame works or how it affects certain people depending on like who comes in, right? Definitely. And at that time, there was no social media, which I think was sort of a detriment to the show because I think if it was in a different time, people with that sort of following would have blown the show up because everybody who was coming on the show would have wanted to, you know, gram about it and tweet about it or whatever. But back then, it was just like, oh, coming next Sunday, get to see Usher being Marvin Gay, you know. And so you really
Starting point is 00:22:13 got to see who the inner workings of their team was and how they conducted themselves on set because they were only there for such a short period of time that you saw such like a glimpse into who they were. And then they left. And we were always sort of like, wow, that was a surreal thing. And much like what we were doing on the show. We were sort of meta in that way of being real American bands and audience members being like, oh my God, there's these icons. Totally. Do you think that grounds you? I feel like, because like I think the feature that I sort of, not the feature. I mean, I don't want to talk about you in that term. You can talk about me while I'm sitting here for sure. Okay, but sure. I'm always so struck by how grounded you are.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Like, you're, there's, there's something so really just, I don't know, so stoic but warm, but, you know, I think, I think that is a pretty remarkable thing. You hold the center. We'll hold the center. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years.
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Starting point is 00:24:57 just like so what do you got what ideas and i was like oh no What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had the honor of sitting down with the iconic Chris Jenner. You never quite know what or where life is going to lead you and where it's going to be the best lesson you ever learned and not get distracted by the noise. This is a lot of noise. even if one of your children has been through something really difficult with their partner or an ex-partner you still love them as part of the unit and the family these are in most cases the fathers of my grandchildren I love these men and that love doesn't go away when we experience really challenging
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Starting point is 00:27:27 And then you got to really act with Ashanti I'd really acted with Ashanti I love Ashanti Her laugh is exactly the same It's so like perfect Like a little cute cackle And I just adore her And she at the time was just starting to date
Starting point is 00:27:41 Nelly which talked about a cultural phenomenon We were at dinner one time And I could barely keep it together I was just like Yeah it's Nelly But no it was a really It was a really great time
Starting point is 00:27:51 But I think to go back to I guess the original question was that I went through like a lot of these types of movies really early on, but I always was sort of like struggling with something at the time or went really up and down and had all these different obstacles going on in my personal life that I never really was present with what was going on or like saw it for what it really was. And so in hindsight, it actually made me really grounded because I couldn't get my head up in the clouds or see it from another macro view.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I was too busy just trying to keep my shit together. Yeah. Yeah. Doesn't bring it down. No, no. That's not bringing it down at all. Especially because like a lot of the things that I think, well, for example, John Tucker and then pitch perfect, you're around a lot of, you're in great ensembles with people with people. So I would imagine that that's like kind of cool because you can make friends and get in touch with people.
Starting point is 00:28:45 But you're also all kind of have the same POV on this thing that's happening to us. So that has to be like a little bit like. Definitely. It's always really helpful. And I think something that. that I've innately had about me since I was a kid is that I'm pretty perceptive and self-aware, almost to a fault sometimes. So I do see like what other people are taking in and how they're reacting to what the movie's doing or what they're getting from things. And I just, yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:11 and then I sort of like go about what I want to do. Yeah. If that makes any sense. Totally. But having that sort of duality of knowing that someone else is doing something over here and I don't necessarily need to has always been really helpful for me. Being like, we're just going to let them go there. You're right, though. It is, it is this thing that either is discombobulating
Starting point is 00:29:34 or really grounding the duality that you're talking about, which is like being in ensembles of people close to your age, including up until now, up until hunting wives. Yeah. You know? It's actually really nice. I mean, it kind of makes me believe that people want me to see, like, see me in movies that have to do with, like,
Starting point is 00:29:49 female friendship or like community or that I'm always in a group of people. I mean, it's better than just me playing like, I don't know, a castaway character and just being alone in all my movies and people being like, I don't really want to see her interacting with anybody. You know, I like that I'm always around other people and all these movies. It shows that maybe I'm friendly. I feel like also the thing is, I believe it was like Tina Fey who once said like you need a really nice person to play a really mean person. That's why you were such a good Amber von Tossel is because it was like you did it so well. But like you in the season. weren't snapped out of the movie
Starting point is 00:30:20 because it wasn't that deep but like you were so and also like she does get a little no she doesn't get redemption in the movie she gets redemption in the Broadway musical Amber. She does get a little bit not redemption but I think she has a change of heart towards the end
Starting point is 00:30:35 yeah because she sort of without the power struggle of her and her mom she sort of sees it from a new and it's so slight I mean it's at the very end of the movie like you can't stop to be like maybe Amber's having a different perspective and then out in the movie's over Because did they cut
Starting point is 00:30:50 In the movie Did they cut When you and When Amber and Velma sing And you can't stop the beat Or is it They cut that yeah See I knew they cut it
Starting point is 00:31:00 Because in the musical It's this like Moment where the Von Tussel's like Kind of fully get brought over the other side And I remember truly One of the moments in culture for me Was seeing that Broadway musical And just Laura Bell Bundy
Starting point is 00:31:13 On the high harmony of that Psycho Like crazy crazy She's incredible Did you see that? Yes. I've obviously seen her, but you know, Laura talking about Guiding Light, Laura played my aunt. What? Guiding Light, yes. Laura Bell Bundy did. Yes. And Laura and I are very dear friends. And so getting to take over, you know, or passing the baton in a way to me for
Starting point is 00:31:34 to do the movie was sort of really, really nice. And she gave me her full blessing, which was huge because I can't sing like Laura Bell Bunny. Like she's unbelievable. You're a wonderful singer. I'm not. But I, but like Laura Bell Bundy as like, A Mariah Carey of Broadway. Of course. No, Laura Bell is, I'll never forget that sound. Yes. Because it was the first time I heard, like, live.
Starting point is 00:31:58 I think it might have been my first, second Broadway show. And just them app. So her launching that high harmony, I think, like, changed something about my life. It was another. It was another. But it was like, again, it was a dog realizing he was gay. You know what a dog hears Laura Bell Bundy do, the high harmony belted? And they realize it's gay.
Starting point is 00:32:16 But yeah, that. We have to point out something, though. Guiding Light and just soaps in general, it's like, the longer I, like, absorb knowledge about this business, the more I'm convinced that that is where, like, the flames that forge these actors is, like, no other flame in the world. What a weird metaphor. But it's like, you, but it's like... Catch you on fire. Yeah. You and Hayden and Laura, but also like you talked to, we had Lisa Rinna on earlier and she's like obviously a soap queen and like our friend Sarah Sherman was on General Hospital and she's just like, it's that thing where like if you ask a soap start a cry, they ask which eye. Yes. You know the which eye thing? I can't do it out of which eye, but I can cry.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Of course you can. Every scene in hunting wives, we turn, our house just turns to each other and goes, Britney motherfucking snow. No. No, there's a million things to talk to you about. But, like, let's just talk about hunting wives because it's been ordered. Yeah. So.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Also, I have some bones to pick what you do. Sure. Sure. Well, let's start with the bones. Well, when I listen to the Snow Bunny's episode. Britney Snow Bunny. We are a hoppy. Which I will put on my tombstone.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I did notice that at first you love. Yeah. You were unsure of the macros. And Rebecca and I talked about this during the Emmys. Because I will say, Rebecca, Katie Lowe's, Brittany Snow, Mullen Ackerman, Chris Cressie Matt's, like, you were the bells of the ball. Yeah. And you and I did have a really, I thought, poignant conversation about how, like, it was so interesting to be at one of those parties from the perspective. Because you were like, I've been at these parties when it is really weird.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If, like, you get asked, like, what are you working on? You're like, oh, I'm just kind of. Yeah. It's weird to be in that space. And, like, that's just like the whole industry where it's small in that space, right? And it's like, that's like the broader scope of like this business. It's like, well, if you're in between stuff, it's, it's a little weird to like communicate that and you're not sure how to feel about this. But anyway, Rebecca and I kind of talked it out.
Starting point is 00:34:15 And I was like, thank you for letting me like come to that understanding and that realization in real time for myself on the podcast. Because I was like, I don't know what this is what the show is doing. I think a lot of people have that reaction. But I think the terminus is pretty broadly and generally like, oh my God, this show is bonkers, camp. Like, it's good nutritional value, I think. Yes, it is. I'm not sure it's nutritional, but it's definitely, and you know what's funny is that, and Rebecca will attest to this,
Starting point is 00:34:46 we weren't necessarily trying to do like high, high camp. Sure. We were, it was sort of somewhere in the middle. And then as we were kind of doing the show, I sort of like realized it was sort of like when, you know, like a beautiful mind when things start like coming into view where I was like, oh, we're not really making big little lies. No, but you know what? You playing it like it was is why it works because you again hold the center.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Well, that was a conscious choice. And sometimes it didn't work out. But I did feel like if I lose, if I lose the plot, if I'm sort of over the top in a way, then you don't have a groundedness at all. But sometimes I do wish that I pushed it a little bit. But I think that that's what next season is for a little bit. Because now you're going to crack after what happened in the finale. Yeah, she's crazy. She's not. This is a woman who's, you know, almost 40, and she's like, I must keep myself caged. And if I don't, then everything will unravel. I have the capacity for hysteria. Yeah, I have the capacity to really go off the rails.
Starting point is 00:35:49 And so I have to keep myself really small, which is why I played it pretty, like, small in general. And then I would have these big moments. But then without them, you're kind of like, she's just sort of small. Interesting. Honestly, though, it kind of makes the voicemail scene jump out even. more. Yeah. That's probably true. Because it's an excellence. Because that's an excellent scene. I, I loved that because we've all left that voice. Yeah. Or we wish we did. Yeah, truly. I sometimes will record it and send it to a friend. I recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I recently had a
Starting point is 00:36:19 gnarly thought I wanted to tell someone. Yeah. Because I found out someone did something. And I recorded the voicemail. I've recorded a voice memo and sent it to our friend Jared just to try it out. And he was like, I didn't know what the context was and thought you were talking to me and I listened to the first five seconds and had to lay down. He was like, now I understand you cannot send this. I was like, oh my God, I'm sorry, you should have read the other text. I was like, this is not to you. Wait, that's really great hindsight or not hindsight, but like foresight to send it to somebody first. I don't have that within me. Well, I don't know. It probably was a little bit like too much of me just cold send it to Jared. But honestly, have me having like put it out there,
Starting point is 00:36:59 it did something for me. Yes. So pro tip. That is a therapy tactic. that you're supposed to do that where you exercise and you get it out, but you don't really necessarily send it. I don't always subscribe to that. Like the writing it down, but you don't actually send it to them. No, I want the forcefulness of them breeding.
Starting point is 00:37:15 I wanted to ask about like hunting wives, obviously a little bit more, but just because you talk, we're talking about this, like I wanted to ask about love is louder. Yeah. So, like, that's still ongoing. I don't work with love is louder anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:27 No, I founded it in 2010 with a friend of mine, and then it kind of became a different thing. in 2020. But I have a new charity that I started with a friend of mine called September Letters that I started in 2020 that is sort of in the same way where it's like a therapeutic letter writing experience where- Speaking of writing it down. We're writing it down. But we do all sorts of different types of letter writing. But it comes from the idea that I actually read an article when I was going through a really hard time when I was a teenager. And that article gave me sort of like the hope that I needed that someone else had what I had. Because in the 90s, when you're a teenager,
Starting point is 00:38:03 no one's talking about depression, eating disorders, anxiety, anything like that. And in a fitness magazine, this girl was talking about it. And so I ripped out that article and carried in my back pocket as like a symbol that I was going to be okay. And then later when I got a lot of recovery, I did a magazine article. And the magazine article had come out. And I had talked about how that article really infused my recovery. And this girl at a coffee shop saw me.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And she turned around and started crying. and she was holding my article in her back pocket. And so September letters was worn out of the idea that you sharing your story might just be really small to you, but it might be the story that someone needs to feel like there's hope. So that was amazing. That's why you got to write it down. Well, or at least share it in a way that makes someone else feel seen, I guess. That's so important.
Starting point is 00:38:52 But you're just amplifying the power of sharing by, like within that story. Like you have like this nesting doll thing where it's like someone else shared a story, so I'm going to share mine. Yeah. And then this girl at the coffee shop has your, your sort of version of that that is like encased in this other person's truly powerful thing. Yeah, it was a true like pay it forward chain mail type of moment where, yeah, you think you're doing this one little small thing and it turns out to be really helpful to somebody that you might not even know down the line. Yep. So that's, that's what I continuously work on as well, September letters.
Starting point is 00:39:26 Yeah. Beautiful. Gosh, chain mail being like, being the thing that your parents. would do over email. Like, that was like the online behavior that your parents would partake in where you go, oh, mom, no. But now it's like sharing an article
Starting point is 00:39:39 about how like, you know. We're all doing chain mail, really. We're all doing a version of chain mail that is, yeah, a little fucked. Wait, I do want to go back to hunting wipes. I want to open the floor before we ask you more about hunting wipes and the question. Oh, yeah, what was your other bone?
Starting point is 00:39:53 What are your other bones? And also TikTok things that are maybe getting at you. Right. I'm throwing a lot. you. Yeah, yeah. All the things that are annoying. No. You were never annoying about hunting wives. I was actually in agreement with a lot of a lot of the things that you said. I'm on board. I'm so. First of all, it's fun. That's why it's so great is because it's fun and it's like so
Starting point is 00:40:20 committed to. Like I felt so safe in every episode because I'm like, these women are tearing it up. I'm telling you, I'm such a fan of everyone. In particular, I want to shout out Katie Lowe's. Katie Lowe's rocks man And I when she came in with that hair blown out Like she was just It's behind her eyes Like she is in it And for her last line
Starting point is 00:40:42 After she shot in the chest To be you cunts It's the best way to die Come on I was like that's when I was like This is the best show It's the best show But now I'm just upset
Starting point is 00:40:52 Because so many of the women are dead I know and Katie Lowe's And I got very close And I just think she's the most special human I mean all of the women are But I'm very, very upset that she's dead. Can we she come back? Like, I feel like the Hunting Wives is a show where she could have a twin.
Starting point is 00:41:06 She could have a twin. We've already talked about that. I don't think that's a possibility. But we do, we were like, what would her name be, Jill? Is it Nell? Jell. Jell, her evil sister. It's me, Jell.
Starting point is 00:41:18 That's, I want to be in the room. I do think that my pitch for Hunting Wives Season 2. Yeah. Is that Jamie Ray Newman's character with her new show comes on Lost Culturistas and we play ourselves and she gets us to be right wing. Yes. Wait, I just got chills. Yeah. And now I kind of like
Starting point is 00:41:38 ruined it, but literally it's like you ever see a monster, the Lila and Eric Menendez thing? So you know the oneer with Cooper Koch when he's like doing the thing? I think it's that but it's lost coach. It's a 90 minute episode of Hunting Wives, which is Jamie
Starting point is 00:41:54 Ray Newman playing her character and us as Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. And by the end you see how powerful she is because she got lost Colch to be like, yeah, for sure. To fully go right. I mean, I feel like she could do that. She's really good. She's an amazing actor.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah, she's a really good. No, not only is she an amazing actor, but like that character. Oh, yeah. She pegged her husband in the butt. So don't tell me about the show being, you know, like, when I heard the, the dildo come out of the butt, you know, we re-wound it 15 times. I remember listening to that. Oh, because we break that down.
Starting point is 00:42:27 We folied it. We were in Peatown and it was. was the most graphic anal sex either of us experienced. And we were in P-Town when we watched it. I'm not taking it out. Don't take it out. The PR, I'm not taking it out. No, no. Let, let Brittany react to that.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Come on. I believe you. At what point did the beautiful mind moment happen for you while you were making the show where you were like, wait a minute. It was pretty early on. I mean, it was really, I mean, once you see Katie Lowe's and everybody's, you know, Malin and the wick, you know, it was sort of immediate,
Starting point is 00:42:59 But in rehearsals and stuff, not aware. Not aware. Once we got on set and I was sort of seeing the shots and the color, I was like, Oh, okay, okay. I know what we're doing here. This is why, are you, are you someone who watches dailies or do you, do you watch, like, playback, like, what's on them, like, do you watch what's on the monitor? Not really.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I do think I, sometimes it's helpful to just know at the very beginning, but I'm not a person that is micromanaging myself because I'll go insane. Of course, same. And I always think I can do better. So there's never a time that I'm going to be like. like, nailed it. Nailed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Moving on. Right. Right. So I always want to go again. Of course. Yeah. But I do think that's helpful just to get the, it does inform like the, you know, the screen picture of it kind of just informs the tone. As an actor, you're like, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I can lock into what this is. But I do think from the very beginning, there was a very clear understanding of the, of what we were making in terms of like the women that were on the show, what kind of women we were going to. to be that we're like not 20 years old and we're having these sex scenes. Like we're in our late 30s, 40s, and we're going to be like powerful and this is for the woman gays. And we're going to like go for it. That was never a question. We were never like shy about, oh, I wonder if this is going to be too much.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Like I wonder if we can pull back this scene when we get to it. I won't raise anything now, but it might be a little uncomfortable. No, you guys have to be going for it. We knew going into it. And we signed up for that. And I think that that's something that we're proud of. You should be. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Those are amazing. Hollywood wants to kind of disregard women after the age of 32 for sex scenes, specifically of nudity and things that are sort of like women coming into their own sexual, like, promulists. And I think that this was just like, no, we're going to still have this be very prevalent in a woman's life even after she's of a Hollywood age of, you know. Meanwhile, they're the most sensual, sexy, sexy. sex scenes i've ever seen like y'all y'all eating box is like the craziest most that it's the horniest i've ever i'm so mullin when she eats box like come on baby like you know what i mean like
Starting point is 00:45:14 the way that she i know it's it's trust me wait that was really hot no i'm malin and that's just the truth oh my god i'm like i'm sweating i have to meet her because i know i'm her you know i know you Never sees someone and you're like, I'm them, so I have to meet them. For me, it's Malin and Kate Hudson. Yeah. That is a really good comp all around. No, three of us need to have the filthiest martinis that... You guys would never leave.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I feel... We wouldn't. We would try to be... I want to be there, but then I feel like I'd leave after a while. You would get tired, and it's just because that conversation would come up that you'd be like, I'm not getting into this with these three. No, I'd probably get too drunk and just want to take a nap. We're so the same.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Brittany andard are so the same. Y'all, you really are. Bowen is the king of, like... I'm tired. I'm going home. But I'm going to rage until I get tired. For sure. Of course. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:05 That was my like M.O. on the Pitch Perfect set. It's like, guys, we're young once. We got rage. So you were the ringleader? Oh, I was definitely the ringleader. Really? Yeah, especially in Pitch Perfect one.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I was like, we're all 25. We're doing a movie about singing and dancing. Yeah. We're going out. We got to go. Are you guys still in touch? Yeah, we're all very close. Let me ask, is there a Pitch Perfect group chat?
Starting point is 00:46:27 I feel like that's the most like. Terrible. question. I'm allowed to say that because they're not, they don't exist. Oh, RIP, yes. Well, I would love them while they were here. Yeah, there is a group chat. Yeah. How active is it? It's pretty, it's died off
Starting point is 00:46:41 like in the past couple months? It's died off since the second sequel. Yeah. No, no. Oh, in the past couple months? That's pretty recent. Yeah, pretty recently. And not on purpose. I think everybody's just older now. I'm trying to think, what happened a couple months ago? Did anything go down? No, nothing went down. Stuyler
Starting point is 00:46:57 had a birthday recently. Oh, I love. Oh, yeah. I love Skylar, too. I don't know him. Recent Skylar birthday. Anna, Anna, I love. I love Anna Camp and Anna Kendrick, both legends. Yes. We're Ben Platt heads, of course.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I mean, we're Ben Platt, enthusiasts. Of course, me too. First me you ever did was with Rebel. Oh, my God. Isn't it romantic? Oh, my God. I was a small, small rule. With Adam Devine, too.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yes. Yeah. Oh, my God. You are a part of us. You're a part of the plan. I'm in the group chat. Oh, my God. You can join. That'd be great. Maybe give resurgence to like the whole. Yes. Wait, wow, Bowen's here. Bowen's here. Hey there. Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health.
Starting point is 00:47:49 And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the doctor in many years. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true. Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97,
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Starting point is 00:48:48 It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Month, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly.
Starting point is 00:49:08 The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head.
Starting point is 00:49:21 We made a mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. but this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk, and they were just like, so what do you got?
Starting point is 00:49:35 What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What? Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage, on the Iheart radio app, Apple podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had the honor of sitting down with the iconic Chris Jenner. You never quite know what or where life is.
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Starting point is 00:50:47 On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m. On health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely.
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Starting point is 00:51:46 podcasts. I wanted to ask you about Adam Shankman too. So I was on set with Adam working on this thing and he was like, oh, Britney's the best. And he told the story about how you auditioned for hairspray. Yes. It was a process. It was a process. I actually told this on like a talk show or something like that.
Starting point is 00:52:11 But it was the audition for hairspray. This is sort of like very indicative of who I am. But I'm a pretty anxious auditioner. I've had to go to much hypnotherapy. about auditioning. I want to ask about your hypnotist. I love my hypnotist. Okay, I need to know.
Starting point is 00:52:25 She saved my life. Wow. I love her. But auditioning for me, it's not the fact that I am not a bad auditioner and it's not even, there's something that happens with the pressure, bad test taker. I'm just really bad at like the battle of my mind that's like, you have one chance to do this. If you, you know. So that audition, I was only like 20 years old.
Starting point is 00:52:49 I bombed the audition. Like, I really, really did badly. I got in my head. And I knew I could do it, and I knew I was right for the role. And Laura Bell already gave me the stamp of approval. And I had gone to a psychic two years before when I was filming John Tucker Must Die.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And the psychic told me that I was going to play the daughter of an iconic blonde woman who was very famous. And she was like, it's going to be two years from now. And I was like, that's so specific. Well, they're real. I mean I have something to say about psychics and a psych him
Starting point is 00:53:23 but then I put that away I write it down and I put it away and then this audition comes up Adam calls me because he had directed me in Pacifier the Pacifier so
Starting point is 00:53:34 yeah we won't get into that and so we were already friends and he called me and he was like you know that just wasn't your best and I was like I know I'm sorry I let you down
Starting point is 00:53:44 and he was like it's okay like I still love you but it's really sad because Michelle Pfeiffer just signed on to play Velma and she's so iconic. And you guys look so similar. And I was like, iconic.
Starting point is 00:53:56 And then I was like, wait a second. I need to go back to my journal. And I looked up and by the time that Hairspray would have come out, it would have been two years. Wow. So I called out and back and I said, I know this is crazy, but a psychic told me that I was going to play the daughter
Starting point is 00:54:07 of an iconic, legendary blonde woman. And it's too weird for this not to be true. Can I just audition again? One more time. And he was like, you're the craziest human being alive. You've either lost your mind or this is going to be really funny story one day. I'm going to let you audition again. And so he let me audition again and I nailed the audition.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And you know why? I nailed it is because I had that sort of like talking in my head, that voice in my head, psychic or not, that was like, this is meant to be. You already have it. You have that subconscious underpinning where you're like, it's fine. But this is the perfect. This is why I love this story, though, because I did see that interview. It blew my mind where you told the story. It's the perfect marriage of like, okay, it's whatever, it's predestined,
Starting point is 00:54:52 but also you had to pick up the phone and call them back. You needed to sound like, but you took that information. You were like, I'm going to take this into my own hands. It's like free will and predeterminism. And that's why like when people have heard that story and they're like, I don't believe in psychics, you're promoting, you know, and I'm like, whatever. It doesn't matter if you believe in psychics or not.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Who cares? What really goes to show is that what really helped me was the fact that I wanted to take a chance on myself. I knew I could do it. and I just needed another opportunity and I needed to be my own, like, biggest cheerleader and to do it again. And I think that everybody going into something like an audition with the foresight that it's already in your hands, you just have to take it is so, that's the recipe for doing well in any sort of pressure situation. If you need us to pretend to be a psychic,
Starting point is 00:55:41 anytime you're in doubt, I am one. No. Really? No. But I do think I have like something I bet you do I have something What do you see? What do you see for Brittany?
Starting point is 00:55:56 Greatness I was going to say greatness That's crazy Wow That's crazy I'm telling you there's something here Literally If Malin was here
Starting point is 00:56:04 This would be even more of a turn-up Absolutely Because I see greatness in our future episode With her too Oh absolutely Well yeah This is it's all it's all cooking Wait but tell me your thing
Starting point is 00:56:15 about psychics? Like what, what additionally? Like you said, you said, you want to say something about psychics? Oh, no, that was my thing I was going to say. Oh, what? But I do love psychics. I am a psychics. I think that, I think that it really obviously depends on the one. But okay, I'm going to share this. I saw one that used to be my writing teacher in college. Like he was at Tisch, he was my dramatic writing teacher. Like, he was like a craft of writing teacher. And we knew that he was also like, He speaks to spirit, like in some way. He's like more of a reader. He wouldn't use the word psychic.
Starting point is 00:56:47 He's like a medium. He's like a medium, yes, that's it. Yeah. So years have passed. It's been, I don't know, how long since we were in college, like 13 years? 13 years. I finally, like, I'm like, I'm going to look him up and I'm going to get a reading with him. I look him up.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It's like an eight-month waiting list. Oh. And I'm like, okay. So I get on the waiting list. Literally eight months later, I've forgotten about it. I get an email. When was this? time. This is like three months ago. And he goes, and I sit down with him and he goes, where do I know
Starting point is 00:57:16 you from? And I was like, you actually were my teacher in college. I've been waiting years to have a reading with you. He was like, oh my God, I was like, how are you? I was like, how is it going? I was like, I mean, I guess I don't want to tell you too much. Right. But like, it's the perfect. But he was like, well, what? You tell me how he's so he goes, you're right, you're right. Don't say anything. Don't say anything. So he starts going, et cetera. He's like, you are successful. He's like, I was like, yeah, I mean, like, I'm doing it in the entertainment industry, et cetera. I'm proud to tell you that. I kind of got like a little emotional. And so then he was like, you are single and that's what you're, what's what you want to talk to me about. And I was just like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And he goes, September. He goes like small blonde. He's coming in September. I don't know this story. I don't know this story, but my, my jaw has dropped because it's happening. Right. I'm sure. I figured that was. And he goes, and well, he was, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, like, that's, you're the Petit Blonde. No. Yeah. It's you. But that, that, I didn't tell you that. But I haven't been saying it out loud. That's the first thing. That's incredible. I know. I may have even said too much, but like, that's really sweet. And I've had them before. When you said that, I was like, I want to get into this because I do believe that
Starting point is 00:58:31 there are people with extra senses. I mean, we had Tyler Henry on this show. We had Tyler Henry on the show. Talk about your hypnotist. I do love my hypnotist. I mean, I'm, you know, I feel like This is so like woo-woo stuff that I really do believe in, though. Especially hypnotism, I think, is the way that she described it to me, which I thought was kind of interesting, is like, because she does it where you listen to it every night as you go to bed. So you're in that sort of like Peter Pan, not asleep, not awake, like dream state. And so when someone, you know, says something to you,
Starting point is 00:59:01 you're more susceptible to what it's saying. So you start believing it because you don't have your conscious voice saying, I don't think that's true. Wow. So then after a while, you start to just take. taken in as fact. Like when you're falling asleep and you're sort of half awake and there's football and the TV and all of a sudden you're having a dream about football, but you don't know anything about football. Like that is sort of this mechanism in your brain that sort of rewires your like
Starting point is 00:59:22 your subconscious. And so after a while, you're you're listening to it as you're dreaming and so your subconscious starts to take it in and that's what really worked for me. It was like going into places and just not having any sort of like fear about what the outside. come was going to be, but just like actually having fun in the moment. Yeah. And that completely rewired by it sounds bad to say rewired, but it, but it made me take a new thought pattern in terms of like what what I thought was going to be true. That's a rewiring for sure. If it is calming you down on like a somatic level, like going into these situations where you would feel an amount of pressure. Yeah. You're not feeling that. That's, that's incredibly, that is something that's happening up here
Starting point is 01:00:07 entirely. Yeah. And I, I, I, I, do feel like it was whether or not you know and maybe it's through osmosis of I don't know like it could be nothing over time either way but does it matter you're doing something like I don't know if it matters necessarily as well as it's like helping you and you feel better absolutely I think also it's just like it's it's what you want to get out of it yeah you know what I mean like like I I think it's did you go for something specific or it was for so I mean this is such a downer conversation But I took a break from acting from 23 to 25. It was in that period?
Starting point is 01:00:45 It was, and I had to get my shit together. It was like, you know, I'd been a kid actor for so long that I really needed to like rework some stuff in terms of getting better. And then when I was 25, I was going back to auditioning again. And the pressure was too much for my brain because I was like, you had your career at 23. Can you get it back? And I didn't know if I could. And so I developed this really fun anxiety disorder.
Starting point is 01:01:10 where I couldn't speak in public. And so I would go to speak in auditions and I would actually not be able to like make, it would like stop. My body would just like take over and I would be so nervous that I couldn't speak. And so I went for that. So I could. And now I walk into auditions or I walk into like public speaking or the Emmys presenting at the Emmys. Right. I mean, when I was 25, that would not have been able to happen, you know.
Starting point is 01:01:35 And it's it's really due to that, I think. When you think about like what about it made you nervous, was it just like the things I say are going to get me, are going to be listened to and then judge? Or is it just like the idea of being in front of people. Yeah, it was the, it was the idea that I was going to mess it up, that I was going to mess up. You're going to mess up. You're going to mess up. You're going to mess up. You're going to mess up. And then I would. But if I just took that voice away, then I just am present and I'm not thinking that. But I had to. Yeah. It was work. 25, you know. What a time.
Starting point is 01:02:07 What a time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I just, I think I said it on the pod. Like, you and Mullen was, was the highlight of the Emmys for sure. And I cannot believe, I was like, they found out they were going on stage to present, like, in the middle of the show. And they didn't know what their copy was until, like, 10 minutes before they walked out on stage. We wrote that copy. You wrote that copy?
Starting point is 01:02:33 We, yes. I have chills. Because I couldn't walk in my day. dress. You kept saying that all night. You're like, I can't move. I can't move. And I couldn't. You were saying that on the red carpet. I couldn't move. And I was, I was panicking. It was a beautiful dress. Viterhaft. Yes. So gorgeous. And I was freaking out because I thought it was going to be fine if I'm just sitting down, you know, doesn't have to walk anywhere. Sure. But the minute they said we're presenting, I was like, I have to walk in front of all these people and in front of, yes, in this
Starting point is 01:03:01 dress. So we get backstage. We have like 30 minutes till we have to present. There's nothing written. And they're giving us just sort of boring copy. And I said to Malin, I was like, I can't walk in my dress. We have to make this a bit. Yeah. Or else people are going to be like, why is she walking so weird? And so I said, it's going to take me a while to come out. It's going to take me a while to come out.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I'm coming out. And she was like, okay, okay, I get it. Like maybe I could be excited that you got out. And I'm like, yes, you've been waiting for me to come out. And so, and then we just were like, we got it. And so that was 10 minutes before we walked on that. It was such a perfect. two-hander. I don't know, this is geeky. Like, I, like, watched it back so many times just to study
Starting point is 01:03:41 your face acting, your face journey in that. That's really funny. Like, you're so, like, it's the perfect amount of titillation. Like, and like, Malin's just, like, being hot and, like, just standing there and, like, holding it. She can do absolutely nothing and it's hot. No, but both of you, I'm like, God, they're really good. Like, you guys are incredible. Like, it truly, I watched it back so many times. I was like, Brittany, motherfucking snow. Were you already friends? We weren't, but we known of each other. And she was always somebody that I knew of in terms of like, oh, she's a cool girl that everyone has always talked about that we would get along. Like people have said to me. That I've worked with her. That I've worked with her. They're like, have you
Starting point is 01:04:19 met them all in Ackerman? Like she, you guys just seem like you would be on the same page about a lot of things. Like the Swedish thing. It's like, yeah, it's cool. But she's just so cool in terms of when we were doing naked scenes or any, you know, intimate scenes. I'd be like, oh, man, I don't know, like, this is, you know, big. And she was like, honey, you're a babe. Like, you're beautiful. Like, let's get it. Like, and I was like, okay, you know, it was, it's very calming.
Starting point is 01:04:43 I love just, and also, I have to say, we had a friend who kind of stepped in it with Malin because he was like, what are you guys going to do about the wig next season? And she was like, she was like, you know, I had, I had like this, this, this health issue. And, you know, my hair was not its best. And so we got this wig out and we just kind of ran with it. And I was just like, oh, my God. Like, Malin Ackerman is being... Everyone making fun of that and it being like an actual thing.
Starting point is 01:05:10 An actual thing. And she was like so... And I even texted her like after the fact that I was like, hey. And like, thank you so much for being so graceful in that moment. She was like, oh my God, no, what are you talking about? Like... She doesn't care. She doesn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:05:21 She does not give a fuck. I mean, that's the cool thing about like all of us on this show is like, we really are just having the best time and we just don't care. Like, we're just excited. But people can love it. hate it. We had less. I don't like that they did Chrissy Mets like that. Why did she have to die? We found her crumpled on the floor. I know. When we found Chrissy
Starting point is 01:05:40 she was crumpled. Emmy nominated Chrissy Mets. Was crumpled on the ground. We didn't even get to see shots fired. I asked her that at the Netflix party which was to show. I was like, do you think that they could, you could come back and we could film the death scene? Because maybe that could be like in season two. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I feel like she deserves that I think she deserves a little bit more than what she got for sure. Definitely. At least let's see the showdown because the whole time we had been waiting for the showdown. Not me critiquing the show. But I love. We had a good friend in college on the show, on the pod,
Starting point is 01:06:14 and she went out for that role, and we each had fun line return auditioning the Chrissy Metz line of... Oh, I love that. Y'all better get back out there and find my fucking daughter. Y'all better get out there. Find out who killed my fucking daughter.
Starting point is 01:06:32 There's so many ways you can do it. You can be heartbroken. You can be angry. You can be urgent. I saw the tears will up and both of you guys. You better get out there. Find my fucking daughter. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:06:45 Wait. It's a great line. You could have been great in that part. He's amazing. I'm saying I'm pitching us for the show. I know. I know. Because we can definitely cry during the episode.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Oh, yeah. I feel like Jamie Ray could get us there. She could get anyone there. Which I. Which I quite trying. Okay, we have to ask you the question. Yes, we do. No, oh my God, don't apologize.
Starting point is 01:07:04 We should apologize. We need to ask you, Brittany Snow, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? You have a great answer. So when I was a little girl, I strictly watched Meg Ryan movies on a loop. They were my favorite. I've seen all of them. And Meg Ryan specifically to me as a little girl was like the pinnacle of an actress that I wanted to be, which was she's inherently cute.
Starting point is 01:07:31 She just looks the way that she looks. So, you know, there's something that she can do about that. She's adorable. But she never played her roles as like a ditsy blonde with short hair. She always was the smartest person in the room. She always had a point of view. She always was like a really strong presence in all of her movies. And I love that dichotomy of like, you don't have to be a ditsy, cutesy,
Starting point is 01:07:53 cutesy, adorable girl that like doesn't know where she's going in the movie. She knew everything. in every movie that she was ever in. So I aspired to be that. And I just remember watching as like a, you know, eight-year-old being like, if I could only be Meg Ryan, you know? But this makes so much sense to me that, like, you would connect with her on that level. And that I feel like you have, you have sort of, like, brought that Meg Ryan archetype
Starting point is 01:08:20 as if you can call it that into, like, the present. I feel like you, you have always really occupied that very, like, sharp. that sharpness in the acting and the technique, but also in that in the look of like a blonde person, a gorgeous blonde person that belies this depth that actually has always been there. I feel like that is what you guys share. That's very nice. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:08:42 But like, you know, between God, like we were really eating back then. Like between Meg Ryan and Julia Roberts, like, because they made those movies. Because they made those movie. But I just remember as a kid watching those movies being like, those are the most beautiful, smartest, funniest. Those are movie stars. Andrew Bullock, Julie Roberts,
Starting point is 01:08:57 Claire Daines, who I just worked with. I mean, just the most elegant. Reese would follow right after that. Reese, I mean, just also like approachable and smart and you weren't watching them like fall over themselves and being like, I wonder what's going to happen next. You know, they were taking charge of the movies. Sure, yeah, they were the heroines.
Starting point is 01:09:15 I feel like for me, my favorite Meg Ryan is when I met Sally. Always. It's one of my favorite movies. I think it's actually one of the best movies ever. Oh, yeah. I agree. If Letterbox came to me and was like the four, Peter Mattisle is in there for sure.
Starting point is 01:09:27 That's one I have always forgotten about in that context. But yeah, it's up there. It's competitive. It's a perfect movie. And speaking of Nora Ephron, and you've got mail, it is kind of the perfect. It's such an elegant thing of like, okay, it's new, the new way of sort of like flirting and sort of the new way of courtship in like the, you know, millennium or late 90s. But like paired with like the fact that it's like, oh, there's a used bookstore and it's like meeting in the park.
Starting point is 01:09:54 It's like the perfect tension of like old and new in that rom-com. It just feels and like sleeping in Seattle. It's like there's just she was able to do all these very innovative things in rom-coms. It's like it wasn't that she like was just thrown into the rom-com genre or that she like helped invent it. It's just that she like pushed the boundaries of it in that time when it really blew up as a genre. And I think she also was, I think people forget how good she was at physical comedy too. She was, she had these manners. that I've always, I feel like I sort of like emulated on accident.
Starting point is 01:10:29 There's like this really kind of, it's sort of okay movie called Addicted to Love with her and Matthew Brodrick. And she is like this biker chick with like eyeliner. And that's how, you know, she's a rebel is because she wears eyeliner. And she just like moves like her body very cool and spasticly. And I just think that it's, it's something that she just really cornered the market of like adorable all around. Right.
Starting point is 01:10:52 I mean, where was the Oscar and I'm? for when Harry met Sally, because the orgasm scene, the fake orgasm scene, that's, that's the that's the peak physical comedy. It's literally and also just it's so it's so lived in. Like it's like you, but you also believe that because she had established a character that like would do that. Right. You know what I mean? Because on the page like obviously incredible script, but that is a leap on the page that it's going to go that far and that way. Right. But you buy it, especially in a movie that's been so grounded, it had been so in reality. that moment is so kind of wild and crazy, but you do, you receive it as fact when it's when she's doing it. Yeah. And I think that surprising element of all her characters is something that I really love to is that she can play someone really, really grounded, but also the element of surprise is always there.
Starting point is 01:11:44 She can always do something like that that's sort of just like out of the box. And you're just, you feel for her, you like her. Yeah. And yeah, I like that. What was the standard loop? Like, was there, like, what was the rotation? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:57 What, how did it work? Did you guys know about this movie called French Kiss that she did with Kevin Klein? I heard about French Kiss. Were you, like, was it Joe versus the volcano, too? Joe versus the volcano. But French Kiss was really my, like, in rotation. Addicted to Love was in there.
Starting point is 01:12:14 I mean, Top Gun. She's in, of course. I was so mad when they didn't bring her back. That was so disrespectful. I know. She's beyond disrespectful. I know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Um, but this movie called French Kiss, it's sort of like, there's this part where she's on the train. She's eating a bunch of cheese. And she realizes that she's lactose intolerant. It's one of those like orgasm moments where it's super big, but it's sort of adorable. Um, and she's sort of like dressed like Diane Keaton, the whole movie. It's sort of that like androgynous wardrobe that's so great. And I just, I ate that shit up when I was a kid. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:12:50 She also took some cool risks. at the end of that. You could tell that she probably got like a little tired of what was happening with her in the romantic comedy sphere because she probably maybe a little typecast. In the cut is a full of Jane Campion movie. Like she's, she's giving it to you in that.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Right. Like, see, it's so funny that I've seen it in the cut and you know what's a blind spot of mine? This is crazy. Sleepless in Seattle. It's unacceptable. So good. You know, it's, it might not.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Her response is, you know? No, no. It's just because I feel like I'm older. So it just, it makes me feel like that was such a part of my zeitgeist of like, it was even, it was even old for me. Like I was too young for it. Right. It was a little, it was a little before our time slightly. And it's hard. It's a hard sell now just because like the leads are never in the same scene.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Also, I don't know if you guys have noticed this about 90s movies, but there's a lot of commonality or like a common theme is like stalking. Right. Like there's all, all these people who are like, it's so romantic that they show up. No, say anything. It's like, get out of there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically stalking this girl. And the girl is like, oh, my gosh, he loves me.
Starting point is 01:13:58 Yeah. And it's like, you're in trouble. Yes, you're trouble. We call that love bombing. Love bombing. There was a lot of that in 90s movies for sure. No, totally. But I mean, you put it, you put it all, you put the film gloss on it and it's great.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You know what though? In a movie, in a movie, you're only seeing the beginning of the love bombing, which is so good. You know what I mean? So in a movie where it ends with them kissing. They're just manic and you don't see the next movie, which is like a full crash. But we don't want to see the crash. No. No.
Starting point is 01:14:30 No. It's, we know. We know where it's going. But also like 90s movies, they didn't care. Yeah. They didn't care at all. Like how to lose a guy in 10 days. The fact that they kiss at the end of that and it's like euphoric, I'm like, wow, you guys are going to be both in, like, impatient.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Like you're both headed there. Like, you're both nuts. In a straight jacket. Yeah. Definitely. Kate and Leopold, too, was like, I think, the last man. Oh, yes. That was, like, one of the births of Hugh Jackman.
Starting point is 01:14:58 Yes. One of Hugh Jackson's first roles, but it was just, like, another, like, innovation. Well, and then that trend kind of caught on those types of movies. Yeah. About, like, wasn't he just coming back from, isn't he, like, in the past? He's in the past. He's some sort of colonial. Yes.
Starting point is 01:15:13 No, no, he's a prince. He's a prince. Well, it was that. Colonial. Colonial. He's old in time. He's old in time. But I love a time.
Starting point is 01:15:22 time travely thing because Lakehouse also did that with Sandra Bollock. I loved Lakehouse. I loved everything Sandra Bullock was into. She's Queens. She was her like slightly more sarcastic cousin. That's right. Yeah. A little darker. Did you guys ever see that movie with Ben Affleck and Sandra Bollick? It was called like Forces of Nature. Forces of Nature and she's so hot in that she's incredibly hot. I mean when she comes out in Miss Congeniality
Starting point is 01:15:46 after she's had after they put her through the like car wash or whatever the fuck Like, it just is so good. She looks unbelievable. Like, aviators. Yeah. And, like, it's, it's, like, dressed like blue. Yeah, it's like sort of like a weird. It's like a lavender.
Starting point is 01:16:01 It's a shimmery blue. Oh, yeah. And it's sort of that stretching material that is not used for clothes. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, dog toys have that same material. Bring it back.
Starting point is 01:16:12 I could chew on both. Yeah. Break it back. There's, there's a dog theme that's strung through this episode. Are you a dog person? Oh, I love. My dog is my everything. Describe the dog. Very cute, ugly. Like more, yeah, it's like she's sort of has eyes that go different directions. And so that makes her really cute, but her personality is just the best. She's a rescue. She's five pounds.
Starting point is 01:16:37 Oh, she's five pounds. She would sit right here and she'd sit the whole time. She wouldn't move. She's just the most chill. We balance each other out. Is it just the one dog? Just the one dog. Yeah. You can't really have like another dog when the one dog is that special. She takes, she goes everywhere. She's a set dog. She was the mascot of the hunting wives. She was with us all the time. Every day on set.
Starting point is 01:16:57 There was even a scene at the Jed's mansion where she was like going to be in the background and then she heard me yelling at one point and then she started barking. So we had to throw out of the scene. Wait, what's her name? Charlie. Charlie. Spelled like Charlie X, X, X or regular? No, Charlie with a E.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Yeah. Unfortunately, I know. We can't all win. Can't win a mom. She doesn't have a hot girl summer or like, anything that related. No. It's fine. It's okay. She's chilling. She's a dog. Yeah. Dog. It's fine. Is Meg Ryan doing it? Like, is she? Because I remember there was a comeback rumor or something. I think she's directing now. She's directing. She's done some roles, I think.
Starting point is 01:17:35 Yeah. We're friends with Jack. Jack's the best. Her son. Yes, of course. Who has all the star quality of his parents combined. Yeah. He's so effortless. Really, truly. I know. Do you know him? I don't actually. You should. You should do something together. Yeah, we'll get on that. We'll get on that. We'll produce.
Starting point is 01:17:54 We'll produce. Lost coaches, we're going to be producers. We're going to be producers. We're going to produce our way into Hunting Life Season 2. You already did, and I love it. I think it's a good idea. But now that, now that, I don't know. What?
Starting point is 01:18:07 I kind of did the whole episode in my mind already. That was my anxious thought. I thought of it and then finished it. What is Sophie doing during this time? I think she's not in that one, boo. No, we need a Sophie scene. You can direct that episode. You have any interest in directing?
Starting point is 01:18:23 I directed a movie a couple years ago. You did? Yeah. What? We're so sorry that we just can pass it. You guys have done enough on the Britney Snow world. No, I mean, like... We're not real Snowbunys if we don't know about your directorial debut.
Starting point is 01:18:35 I know you went to Gather High School. That's crazy. Yes, Gatheer High School. It's on Wikipedia. That's true. There's a lot on Wikipedia. That's not true, though. Well, you're a Piscese's like me.
Starting point is 01:18:45 I am a Pisces. Oh, you're Pisces. Do you identify with... He's a Scorpio. This is very good. This is a... very good day. Oh,
Starting point is 01:18:50 you just leered at me. You don't like that. No, I love. We love. I love Scorpios. Okay, good. Water signs. I just didn't realize
Starting point is 01:18:56 that you were a Scorpio. No, he's the Scorpio. He doesn't suffer fools. It's not that. You know what I identify most now recently as a Scorpio? And this is going to sound so like eye roll because it's like it's about what people do to me. But it's a lot of people project stuff on the Scorpios. Like you don't want.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Or they think they project things about. me. He's right. They do this. They'll assume things about me that are just obviously informed by like what the person is thinking. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:29 We don't have to get into it. Well, that's what people do for Pisces too. They just assume that I'm sensitive and emotional and about to cry. They're right. I'm literally same. I'm a Piscese too. March 5th is my birthday.
Starting point is 01:19:39 March 9th. Do you have a joint birthday party one year? Maybe we should. March 7th, huge day for us. Oh, yeah. Two days after mine. Two days before yours. Just saying.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Pretty cool. You know who's blowing me up right now and I don't know why Jared Frieder? You know Jared. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's how, wait, because of Liz, Jared and Liz are so close. And that was the Muna concert. Yes, because you were in someone great.
Starting point is 01:20:02 I was in someone great. Yes, which is another classic. And that's how I met you is because of Jen. It's because of Jen. Jen and Kate and Robinson. And then Liz Elver and Lee went to my high school. Yeah, they went to high school together. And was good for my sister.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Liz was best friends with his sister Yang. Yeah. Isn't that weird? Wait, that's crazy. I didn't know how that all came to be with them. makes sense. No, yeah. So you're a Munafam. Of course. It's kind of burr. It's kind of a
Starting point is 01:20:27 it's kind of lesbian of you to be in hunting wives and be a moon of fan. You're projecting things on to us, the Pisces. Yep. We're used to it. Yeah, well. And they're always right. Yeah, they are. No. I am going to cry. I'm crying right now. I almost did during my performance as Chrissy Mears. You did. You did. I saw that. And you see, he went more to anger. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:20:50 I love that. It's just kind of, it's where we go. What? No, nothing. I'm sighing because, speaking of, just, I'm thinking of Britney Snow crying and,
Starting point is 01:21:00 and, and that makes you cry? No, it makes me, you're so good at it. It makes me, I'm filled with awe because in the previously
Starting point is 01:21:07 on Hunting Wives clips, they would always constantly play the clip of Sovi going, she died. Like, it's, we actually, do you know what I'm talking about? We were doing,
Starting point is 01:21:15 we were doing a contest about who could do the best, um, she died. No, stop it. What is that from? It's from when Sophie tell... When you say the story of the first accident. Of the accident.
Starting point is 01:21:29 Oh, my God. When I'm in the green dress. Yeah. And I... Oh, my God. When you're at the lodge... Yes, I know we were talking about now. And you're telling other women about the accident.
Starting point is 01:21:39 And literally, like, it was just... The reason why we were doing it is because they were showing it in the previouslies a lot. I'm constantly. I'm not proud of that performance. No. No. Oh, we're telling you, it was so good. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:21:52 It's just because I, at that moment, I didn't realize that it, like, cuts to Katie. And she's like, oh, my God, you know, like, I could have, like, done so many different things. But you're right. I was like. No, it was perfect. No. But you're right. I feel like.
Starting point is 01:22:08 You can't watch playback. No, I can't. No. But also, like, I get what you're saying. It was, like, a strange, it was like a strange thing to have constantly go. back and we had to remember. I love the previously. Can I say previously is one of my favorite parts of a whole episode. You know, sometimes when I, when I think to, when I wasn't working and I was thinking to myself like, one day I'll be on a TV show and I would say to myself like
Starting point is 01:22:32 previously. Yeah. You know, it's like so cool to say it. Did you do the voiceover? Did you do it? Yeah. Yes. So, you're like, wow. I'm really on a TV show now. I got to say previously. No, I've never said previously. No, I've never said previously. You will. You can. I did get to say in a Secret Deodorant Commercial, Wicked for Good in Theaters November 21st. That felt cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm sorry. That just sounds like a brag.
Starting point is 01:22:55 I'm sorry. No. But Wicked for Good is in Theaters November 21st. Oh, don't you know. I know it. Yes. Wait, I need to ask because you alluded to this earlier. So you think you could have done the she died scene better.
Starting point is 01:23:10 But you had other moments. You said there were other moments throughout the season where you were like, I could have done that better. Would you like to put those out there now? I think I always think I can do better. It really, it bothers me because I'm pretty hard on myself. And I always watch, when I watch things back, I'm like, I could have done better. Or you're like, I did it better.
Starting point is 01:23:29 And that wasn't the take. 100%. Literally always. Always. Always. And that's why. How do I use that one? I know.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I always think that. But then I just keep reminding myself, like, it's because it was better holistically. I have to trust the experts here. Also, maybe the one I'm thinking wasn't the one. Maybe it would have looked odd after her line. You know what I'm saying? Like it's, but I have the same thing where I'm like that out track. Well, to go back to the fact that I have directed before, I directed my own movie that I wrote and I have been on that side where I had to edit and I was in the editing room for four months.
Starting point is 01:24:02 And I do know that that thought, which does come into play when I watch myself of like I've been on the other side where the best take isn't always the one you're going to be able to use because her hair was on the wrong side or there was something that we couldn't get out of the frame or whatever it is. you know, a lighting thing or, or just little minute things that you're not thinking of. And so I do take that into consideration, although it does suck. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Whenever you don't know. Is that a Pisces thing? We're not really controlling.
Starting point is 01:24:30 That's not even a controlled thing. Just sensitive. Yeah, it's a sensitivity thing. Yeah. It's like, oh, I want people to think I did the scene really good. Yeah. And maybe that's the controlling of it is that I know that I can do better. And so there's this sort of like sensitivity to, to, I guess that's controlling.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Yeah. It's a sensitivity to just emotion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the Pisces thing. Yeah. You can, you can like, you're getting a read on like these micro moments or something in your. Yeah, sensitivity based on emotional portrayal. Lots of Pisces there.
Starting point is 01:25:00 Creative. Hey there. Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA Health. And I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mailroom. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like a lot of guys, I haven't been to the talk. in many years.
Starting point is 01:25:18 I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Because guys usually don't go to the doctor unless a piece of their face is hanging off or they've broken a bone. Depends which bone. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Every week, we're breaking down the unique world of men's health, from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility and things that happen in the bedroom. You mean sleep? Yeah, something like that, Jordan. We'll talk science without the jargon
Starting point is 01:25:43 and get you real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. It's going to be fun, whether you're 27, 97, or somewhere in between. Men's health is about more than six packs and supplements. It's about energy, confidence, and connection. We don't just want you to live longer. We want you to live better. So check out the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your favorite shows.
Starting point is 01:26:08 What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Month, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainer, creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show. Boo. Somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget. We bumped our head. We made a
Starting point is 01:26:42 mistake. The deal fell through. We're embarrassed. We failed. We failed. But this podcast is about that and how we made it through. So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk. And they were just like, so what do you got? What? What ideas? And I was like, oh, no. What?
Starting point is 01:26:59 Check out Not My Best Moment with me, Kevin on stage on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, YouTube, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast. Recently, I had the honor of sitting down with the iconic Chris Jenner. You never quite know what or where. is going to lead you and where it's going to be the best lesson you ever learned and not get distracted by the noise. This is a lot of noise. Even if one of your children has been through something really difficult with their partner or an ex-partner, you still love them as part of the unit and the family. These are in most cases the fathers of my grandchildren. I love these men and that love
Starting point is 01:27:42 doesn't go away when we experience really challenging times with them. Compassion is key into really feeling what somebody might be going through. Even though you don't agree with them, if you once love them, then love is love. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu, comedian and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m. On health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way. It's not only about what we can do
Starting point is 01:28:27 to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean, 50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is type 2? Extremely. Or our in-depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are. Oh, it's hard to explain to the rest of the world that, like, your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but, like, you don't even know. You don't know.
Starting point is 01:28:57 You don't know. It's going to be a fun ride. So tune in. Listen to Health Stuff on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. know what's creative and we are in control of. I don't think so, honies. It's time for the segment.
Starting point is 01:29:17 So this is our 60 second segment where we take just exactly that amount of time to rip something in culture apart. You have been thinking about it. So we heard your two. We told you we weighed in. We said we think one is the one. We're going to go first and you can ruminate on it. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:33 I have one. I've been moving apartments in L.A. And I have one. Okay. this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey, dust. I just found out you're mostly my own skin. I don't think so, honey. Almost 50% of all that in the corner, bitch, that's your own skin. Those are your dead cells. I'll say it again. Dead cells all up in the dust. When you go to a corner, it's horrible.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Any room you're in right now go to the corner. It's terrible. I'm telling you. You need to call the cleaner. Please let this be Not just that I don't think so honey It's a reminder you need to clean Or call the cleaner Get someone or you yourself Get the supplies The dust is you
Starting point is 01:30:21 You are all about it's like Soylent Green up in here I'm telling you It's really bad and bitch I have to tell you about your air filter It's so bad It is so bad Get the dust out of there
Starting point is 01:30:31 You're gonna die If you suck in this dust you're gonna die I'm telling you Then talk about dust mites Don't try to give it a cute name you bitch I don't think so honey this. You are not going to call it a dust mite. A dust bunny, it's an insult to bunnies.
Starting point is 01:30:44 I don't think so, honey. It's my own skin. It's not a bunny which I want to pet. It's my skin which I either want to keep or never see again. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. The only bunnies we want snow bunnies. I am terrified.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Why? Because that was so great. Yes. And also, you, like I'm going home to immediately start dusting. No, you got it. You got, I'm telling you have to. No, but I bought. an old house and it's really dusty. I know, especially, and that's also the thing about the
Starting point is 01:31:13 unfortunate drawback to like, oh, this house gets great light. It's going to get amazing dust. Get two air purifiers. Yeah. Oh, no, I've got two. One upstairs, one down to. British style has two. Yes. The dust bunnies are, you know, not a part of the club and they're everywhere. Everywhere. And I'm telling you the one great thing, I'm so happy to be leaving my apartment in L.A. and going somewhere else. It got so much dust like two days after. I don't no, it's something about it, but it's terrible. And, like, I found a lot of it hiding in one place, and I just couldn't believe how big the ball was.
Starting point is 01:31:49 This is really nasty. Well, you can take a picture? I didn't. I didn't because Melissa was freaking out. She was like, stop touching it! It was really, we were, like, kind of playing with the dust. We were high. It's the dryness.
Starting point is 01:32:01 It's the dryness in a way. Yeah, it was not good. But anyways, we're happy. Moving to Studio City. to be closer to Jared actually my bestie Oh my god I didn't know that
Starting point is 01:32:13 Oh yeah We dated for a year Hot Very cute At the time very much so Yeah Better as friends though I get that
Starting point is 01:32:21 Yeah Not because of him Just because I've been in that situation Yeah yeah yeah yeah Sometimes you're just better as friends All right What do you think I don't think
Starting point is 01:32:30 I have something Okay It's also another like house thing But I think it's really important Work okay So this is Bowen-Yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I don't think so, honey, light switches, you have to press. Give me an actual rocking mechanism. I don't care if it's the little nub. I don't care if it's the full. You want to flick. I want to flick because guess what these dimmers do? They go slow. They take their time.
Starting point is 01:33:01 And sometimes I need it to be lights out like that. And most of the time with these, pressed light switches, you go to hotel. Oh, isn't this nice? 30 seconds. Wait a minute. The light switches are nonsensical. I'm pressing a button and I got I got to count 10 clock ticks for this to fully go black. 15 seconds. I'm trying to go to bed. Meanwhile, I'm standing at the threshold between the closet and the bathroom
Starting point is 01:33:33 waiting for the light to go down. So that I, before I can tuck myself in, honey, there's no time. I'm busy. That's one minute. You know, I've done one very similar about when you go to a hotel. Like, if you ever spring on like a nice hotel, you can't use one thing. It's impossible to use. You want to turn on the TV?
Starting point is 01:33:51 You can't. You can't. Because the remote's something from outer space. Do you want to turn on the light in your bathroom? You can't. And my classic thing, hotel trash cans. Fat chance. Fat chance.
Starting point is 01:34:02 It's tiny. It's a little canister. They're getting worse. Soon it's going to be a button all the way over there to open the trash can over here. Don't even talk to me about a button that says all. Liars. Liars. I hate that.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Why do you, like, I press all and everything goes black. I can never find the button again. Everything is... You have to run to the bed. You have to run to the bed. You're definitely going to fall over. You're tripping over something. You'll be killed.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Definitely. I have killed by all light. I'm telling you, like, they make it so difficult. Like, my parents are in Greece right now. Oh, my God. It's now? Yeah, they're in Greece. their second time ever leaving the country.
Starting point is 01:34:37 And I was like, I wanted them to go into like have a nice trip and go in nice hotels. And then after I sent them, I was like, oh, no. Are they going to know how to like turn on the coffee thing? Because it's fucking Rubik's Cube. Oh. Like it is crazy to turn on a light. Toilets, you know, they have those fancy bidetes like in the toilet.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Oh, no. You'll be there for 45 minutes trying to figure it out. And then when you do, you'll never leave. But sometimes I get to them some of those bidets and I'm like, I'm not leaving. Oh, no, no, no. No, I know you in a good day. I'm getting a blood clot.
Starting point is 01:35:10 I'm staying. Oh, my. Britney Snow. Okay. Okay, are you ready? I think so. This is... What a sentence.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Oh, my God. Thank you so much for coming. I am having the best time. Me too. I don't want to leave. Okay. This is a... It's getting bidet.
Starting point is 01:35:29 I have a date with the other blonde. Oh, this is Britney Snow's. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts. I don't think so, honey. Okay, hospital shows. Wow. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:35:41 People, I know some people, that it is their comfort to, after a long day, you're working traffic. You're a person that's got kids. You're taking care of old people. And then you go home at the end of the night and you want to curl up with a nice glass of tea and a blanket. And you're going to put on the most high stakes drama of people dying who actually really die in real life. These are real stories that happen. And then now your comfort show. Grey's Anatomy, the pit.
Starting point is 01:36:07 Also, Noah Wiley, call me, I will do season three. I love him. Also, no Wiley, side note, is a doctor. If I was on a plane and there was somebody that, like, if I was going down and there was like, is there a doctor in the plane? And there was another doctor and then there was no Wiley. I would pick him.
Starting point is 01:36:21 He knows everything. Of course. But that's not the point. The point is, I don't think that these shows are good things to watch because they don't give anybody comfort. I don't want to go to a hospital. Does anybody like going to the hospital? Why am I willingly going to the hospital when I'm in bed?
Starting point is 01:36:33 thousands. I'm sorry, keep going. But like, do you like going to the hospital? When I'm visiting people in the hospital, I want to get the fuck out of there. And then now we are willingly putting ourselves into the hospital. And it's like dramatic? I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. That was perfect.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Oh my God. Quickly done. For Britney Snow, everybody. Really good. And also, this is speaking to something in the culture that needs to be addressed, which is why do we like these things? It's just, it's literal pain, blood, and more. And I will say something.
Starting point is 01:37:01 what is the thing with like people being like wow now I really know what that experience is like it's like why did anyone need to know what they go through I get it I personally for me I get it being in a hospital working in like an emergency room it sounds awful not for entertainment but let me just say to play the devil's advocate to my own I don't think so honey I do think that it's highlighting people in those roles that have the worst, the most horrible hard jobs. I don't give one fuck about actors who are like, oh my God, I'm so tired. I hate my job. It's like, no, you go to a hospital and those people are allowed to complain about being tired
Starting point is 01:37:42 because they're saving lives. But then also, yes, we're highlighting those jobs. But at the same time, I don't want to have any enjoyment in that or comfort in the fact that you just saved a child from like their arm getting cut off or whatever. Like, that to me is not something that I find to make me like, ready for bed now. Right. He loves the pit. And we are noted Grey's Anatomy stands, but I don't even know if I could rewatch it because now as an adult, I'm super sensitive to pain.
Starting point is 01:38:11 To pain. Like human pain. Did you ever do a hospital show? No one has ever thought that I could play a doctor. But did not? Were you on Grace Anatomy? No. Why am I creating that you were like a patient on Grey's Anatomy?
Starting point is 01:38:23 I was a bipolar girl who killed someone on SVU. That's why. Yeah. Pretty, which is the exchange rate is you were a doctor on a hospital procedural. No, I can't do the language, like the wording of, no. Oh. I actually wrote a Grace Anatomy spec script in college, and it's just all the hospital jargon. I was just going to put in the dialogue, like in parentheses, like hospital jargon here.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And the doctor was like, I know, but my teacher was like, no, just write it. And I was like, I need 10 C and C's of penicillin. And it's like, what is that? But the writer, the actual writers on Gray's just go, just go medical, medical, medical, like, brackets, medical, medical, medical medical. So legitimately that's, and then they have consultants going to. As an actor, that is my nightmare that I have is that I show up to do Gray's anatomy or whatever. And they're like, you got the medical jargon, right? They know, it just came in last night and you're like, what medical jargon?
Starting point is 01:39:19 And they're like, the paragraph of medical jargon that you don't know, that is an actual nightmare that I have on the regular. Amazing. Specific actor dream. Specific, very like that is so specific to just actors. It's like, what if I show up to Grace Anatomy and I don't know the medical jargon? Humiliating. And I'm nude. I'm agreeing with everything you're
Starting point is 01:39:37 saying, Brittany. When you asked who likes going to the hospital, this is, this is, I'm going to say a Canadian thing, which is when you have socialized medicine. Especially if you're a kid growing up in Canada like like I was.
Starting point is 01:39:52 I broke my arm. twice growing up in Montreal, going to the children's hospital was the funest time. Yeah, he broke his arm twice because he could go back. Well, we're talking about a different medical system. But like the children's hospital in Montreal was a happy place. A happy place. The walls were colorful. There's play places, books everywhere. And they were fixing your arm. And they were fixing your arm. And the doctors were so nice and so happy.
Starting point is 01:40:12 The nurses were. Was that Noah Wiley there? There was a Noah Wiley-esque man, pediatrician. I mean, come on. I think the, I think the appeal of the pit is you're watching Noah Wiley be Noah Wiley. Oh, definitely. And there's nothing better. God and he just I mean did you see him at the party
Starting point is 01:40:27 during the Emmys? He and his wife the most gorgeous couple. Just the most gorgeous and so in love they were the bells of the ball and I love that for them. It was the pit and hunting wives. Too vastly different experience. I want that crossover bad. I want that crossover bad. Me and Mullen are like 500 C Cs, baby. Yeah, like 100%.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Baby, let me get that scalpel baby. Yeah. Come on. Whenever I do that, I don't know. Something happens. Burp. Wait, this is this is this is My Mullen, ready? Yeah. Offer me a tampon.
Starting point is 01:40:56 I don't know. I think I have a tampon. Oh, I can't use that. That's pretty good. Oh, I can't use that. Oh, I can't use that. Wait, okay, before we go. Yes?
Starting point is 01:41:09 You guys both told me that you had like questions about the show because you were like, if this person does that and that person is that and that guy, it was, yeah, what are the questions? Okay. My question is, how will Sophie, with what she's done. How will she get out of this one? I have theories that are completely not based in any facts. But let's hear him.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Because we're all pitching. Because I don't know. I don't know this to be true at all. But I do think that this puts them on an even playing field. And I do think that she's smarter than people think she is. And I would like to see her having done stuff already to like lay the groundwork for like, she's got some shit on Margot that she could drop, you know, on the drop of a hat. and turn everything around if if margot figures out that she killed kyle but i think no one's
Starting point is 01:42:00 going to figure out about kyle for a long time wow but they will at some point for a reason i think she took the phone for a reason you don't think that malin knew it was her at the end i think she did i don't think so i'm not sure okay we played it both ways it's funny how it went in the show but they did tell me to take the phone for a reason yeah yeah yeah there is so many ways art to interpret the show. Absolutely. As I'm an example of. I'm telling you, like, it, we were in P-Town, like, ostensibly a lot of fun things to do there.
Starting point is 01:42:36 No. All we wanted to do was be in the house watching the show. It was the highlight of every moment of the trip was watching the show. And the Dune's Tour was good. Dune's Tour was good, but we didn't really go out. I liked that one, I liked the Red Inn, too. Red In is fine. We had good cocktails there.
Starting point is 01:42:50 But other than that, it was the Hunting Wives. You? I am just so honored by that, truly. Thank you for, that was my one week off the entire summer. Thank you for, no, I really, no, but thank you. Oh, my God. I'm glad. We spent it with you.
Starting point is 01:43:04 We spent it with you. We did all together. Yes. We escaped. And you have two shows coming out. I do. Two shows. One on Hulu.
Starting point is 01:43:12 That's called Murdoch, Death in the Family. And I play Mandy Matney, who is the real reporter that the podcast, Murdoch murders, her character. she's the person that sort of like spearheaded the whole fight to get this guy, Alec Murdoch behind bars and and figure out what was happening with that story. So she is a badass. So she sort of comes in and it's like, we have to get the truth. We have to get the truth.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Yeah. And she was the first person to actually kind of sense that this was a bigger story at play, that it wasn't just this guy who was up to no good. There was something that was way, way more insidious with the story. And she just followed that lead and nobody took it seriously. And so as it was happening, she was the one that was sort of the person that knew before anyone else and was really sort of this gnat in their family in terms of like making sure that the story is broke, that somebody was always watching them, that the story was actually getting told.
Starting point is 01:44:05 And so, yeah, it was up to her that this all happened. Wow. And hospital shows are too gruesome for you. Yeah. Meanwhile, you're out here with all this murder. Well, I know. There's so much murder in all your shows. I know.
Starting point is 01:44:17 I've been really murder lately. What about that message to the kids? I'm sorry. Who love you. The kids love you. You're in every murder show on television. I will be in more also. Well, hear that kids.
Starting point is 01:44:27 Is the second show a murder show? It is. There you go. It's called The Beast in Me. It's called The Beast and Me? What are the kids? They are there. The kids out there.
Starting point is 01:44:39 They're there. Not everything I do is for the children. Yeah, that's fair. No, you are feeding the children. Yes, gay guys speak. Yes, gay guys speak. Thank you. Yes, it's really good.
Starting point is 01:44:52 When you feed the children, that's good. I figured. Burr? Beast and me. Beast and me is there are no children in the beast in me. But it is about also murder. My husband is being... Murdered?
Starting point is 01:45:07 No. No. He might have murdered his ex-wife, and I'm the new wife. But it's sort of like the jinx in the way of like he's sort of this tycoon and billionaire. and you don't really know what's going on in terms of his murder past because he might not have murdered her at all. Not everyone in the show is as they seem
Starting point is 01:45:27 because Claire Daines, she plays this writer that's doing a book on Matthew Reese, my husband. I know. Oh, wait, Matthew Reese and Claire Daines? Yes. So it's going to be a phenomenon. It is the same people who did Homeland.
Starting point is 01:45:40 Oh, stop. We're familiar. Claire Dane is going back with Homeland people. Yeah. Oh, this is too much. And I'm there too. I know. Who would have thought.
Starting point is 01:45:48 This is crazed. It's going to be very cool. We met her at S&L 50. She's, she listens to us somehow. I don't, that was too much. It was too much. She's so fucking cool. She's the best.
Starting point is 01:46:00 Best actor ever. She's the best actor. She's the best person. Her and Matthew Reese are truly, I mean, I loved working on that show every day because of how they conducted themselves on set. And then we all became friends. And I was just like, I love when people are that good at what they do and they're also that good in real life as people.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Claire just wanted to hang out She just wanted to know things about me And she really listens She's just Rad The best She's just so rad This was so fun
Starting point is 01:46:26 We're obsessed with you We love you We love you We have to hang out with you I have to hang out with you When they said That they spent so much time With you at the Emmys
Starting point is 01:46:32 Like you and all my friends I was just like I have to be there But now we're gonna do something We're doing it We're going to hang out We're gonna be like real real friends Catch us in the streets
Starting point is 01:46:43 In the streets All right Okay ready Yeah We had never heard of it with the song. I'm trying to think what's the song? The new girl in town. I wish I knew the words.
Starting point is 01:46:54 I can hear the... If you want to hear that and more, listen to the hairspray original past soundtrack. Bye. Bye. Yes. Last Culture, This is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players
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Starting point is 01:48:43 com. Hey there, Dr. Jesse Mills here. I'm the director of the men's clinic at UCLA, and I want to tell you about my new podcast called The Mail Room. And I'm Jordan, the show's producer. And like most guys, I haven't been to the doctor in way too long. I'll be asking the questions we probably should be asking, but aren't. Every week, we're breaking down the world of men's health
Starting point is 01:49:02 from testosterone and fitness to diets and fertility. We'll talk science without the jargon and get your real answers to the stuff you actually wonder about. So check out the Mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your favorite shows. What up, y'all? It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment,
Starting point is 01:49:22 where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers, creators, friends, people I admire who have had massive success about their massive failures. What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it? I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show.
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