Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Drinkin' The Soda” (w/ Brittany Snow)
Episode Date: November 19, 2025True symbol of excellence and full fledged icon Brittany Snow finally joins Las Cultch after Matt + Bow recorded an episode in her NAME all those months ago in Ptown! The three discuss attending teen ...clubs in Orlando, memories from American Dreams, how Brittany is a Kingdom Hearts legend, and auditioning twice for Hairspray. Also, finding the tone of Hunting Wives, being the party ringleader on the Pitch Perfect set, psychics and hypnotists, and the grace, power and heat of Malin Akerman. All this, Meg Ryan culture, whether or not romantic comedies are ust glorified love bombing, dust, advanced light switches and hospital shows being too fucking much when they're really fucking good. Watch all of Brittany's shows! She's killing it! Literally, it's a lot of murder! The Hunting Wives, Murdaugh: Death In The Family and The Beast In Me are all available now. "You c*nts..." - Katie LowesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Look, Matt.
Where? Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture, yes.
Oh, goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas.
Ding dong, Las Culturistas calling.
Well, you have come from an interesting event.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
I was just with Manon, Sophia, Daniela, Junche, Megan, and Sophia.
Did I repeat some names?
You might have sent Sophia twice.
Lara, I was. Lara, of course.
I'm like a Lara Raj.
How could I forget?
And you know what?
That's the power of Sophia.
She gets mentioned twice.
Sophia, you go, girl.
Sophia, you go, girl.
I was with Katzai.
Dancing with them?
I was not dancing with them, but I was shooting a video that should be out by now,
but the time this comes out.
But, God, those girls are truly incredible.
They have a great bounty of talent.
Oh, great fortune.
They have a great fouchin.
Fouchin.
Anthony Fouchin.
Who?
What did you?
I said bounty and fortune at the same time.
Fouchon is actually really powerful.
Well, it's actually a local culture number of 60.
When you say bounty and fortune at the same time, you get Fountain.
Well, those girls of Katzai have a great fountian of beauty and talent.
Youth and talent and work ethic.
And they're so sweet.
funny as hell. I mean,
that EP, beautiful chaos, excellent.
I mean, obviously, we're like the last people telling
people to the stream. They're like machines.
As are you, my friend. My dearest friend.
You're one of the most famous dancers now.
That's not true.
That's not true. Don't challenge me.
Well, I flopped on this dance. I must say
because the choreo that Katzai does is...
Was it difficult?
Incredible. Like, you have no idea.
We got to talk to our guest about choreo because I want to know
what Adam Shankman made this.
condo. Our guest has hit the step
for decades. Absolutely. It's actually
Real Culture No. 50. Britney Snow
has hit the step for decades.
And it was a lot of fun. Check it out. It comes out Halloween.
They do fun Halloween stuff, these girls.
I bet they do. Yeah. Because you're going to
love this Halloween thing. Really? Is it
a special? At this point, it's out.
So they got dogged online
because at the VMAs on the red carpet,
a lovely correspondent from Billboard asked them. We're celebrating Mariah
tonight. What is your one by one? Let's go around
one by one, your favorite Mariah video.
And these girls, they're young.
They don't know.
They're babies.
It's a little bit before their time.
Babies don't necessarily know about Mariah.
It's actually real coach number 15.
Babies don't necessarily know about Mariah.
So they were stumped.
And then of course, like, you know, a certain millennial sect, you know, sect of gay men especially.
The worst.
Kind of was like, oh, these girls, you know, open the schools.
These girls don't know.
And so for their Halloween thing this year, they are all dressed up as their favorite
Maria video look.
I love that.
They paid respects.
They pay respects.
And there's a great, broad sort of gamut of Mariah looks that I think will please a lot of people.
And I'm sure the millennial gays will now put their weapons down and leave the girls alone.
But I was talking to the girls and they were like, we love her.
We love her so much.
We just like we couldn't think of like any videos.
And like we watched all of them and like they're so.
Cats, I come on the show.
Cats, I come on the show.
We'll gab.
You're invited.
We'll gab.
All right.
Well, speaking of if they open the schools, I believe that.
our guest is in all the textbooks in the schools.
Absolutely.
Because she actually is an incredibly part, big part of pop culture.
In so many different lanes and ways and verticals, I'll say.
I remember when I first saw the guest.
When?
On television.
Oh.
There was a preview for a new show called American Dreams.
And the star of it was this absolutely gorgeous ray of light.
And I remember being a young gay.
And I said, that's a star.
That is a superstar.
that whose name we will know.
I believe she even got one of those like
and introducing Britney Snow's.
She got an an introducing.
I think she did.
She's making a face that would suggest
I'm wrong, but in my mind,
it was American Dreams and introducing Britney Snow.
Oh, that sounds so right.
It hits the ear, perfect.
She's the star of the cultural phenomenon
that is the hunting lives.
Murdoch Murdoch.
Sophie.
Is on Hulu now.
So much more.
I said Sophie.
Sophie was the name of her character
Different from Sophia
Right
But let's say Sophie twice
Just to make it fair
Sophie
Yes
And
And I guess I could say
On Las Culture Recess
And now
And introducing
Britney Snow
Yes
It is a phenomenon
that you're here
No
I'm just so delighted
And honored
It's not a phenomenon
I was gonna come here
Regardless
What do you want
We want to be here or not
No for us
It's a phenomenon
We want you here.
Yeah, it's a personal phenomenon for us.
Oh, no, no.
It's, I mean, this is the most lovely introduction, though.
I do not feel like I'm in this category whatsoever, but thanks.
Was it an introducing Britney Snow?
It might have been.
If it was for you, then that's why not.
I just remember, like, that's a huge deal, though.
Like, you're, I guess you've been acting since you were a kid kid kid.
A kid kid, like a baby.
A Tampa kid.
A Tampa kid.
My mom put me into those commercials when I was a baby.
And so I have known no different.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just living the life, the hard life of a Tampa Child actor.
It was hard.
What was the hardest part?
The driving.
The driving to Orlando, Florida.
The 5 a.m.'s like getting in the back of my mom's van.
She gets me one Dunkin' Donut on the way.
Oh, just one.
Pretty good.
Strawberry glazed.
Come on now.
And I am in the audition at like 8.30, 9 o'clock in the morning.
and I have to be on.
I've got to be cute.
Yeah.
Pigtails always.
Of course.
Pigtails was the look?
Well, around like six or seven, yeah.
A braided pigtail?
No, like two really annoying.
Pippie long stocking vibes.
Yeah.
But does part of you, look, I wasn't even at all near this, like, sort of channel between
Tampa and Orlando or anywhere in Florida feeding into central Florida.
It just felt like such a 90s thing, like this aspirational 90s thing for
kids for people our age where it was like, oh my God, well, you can like get your start in
Orlando. You could go to Orlando. Oh my God. And it was even worse that we were in Tampa.
Like I was a Tampa kid. I was born and raised there. So it was almost like required that I was
a part of dance and singing and stuff like that because there was pop stars coming out of Florida
and everything was very Mickey related. And so yeah, I had no choice. So you were a Tampa kid who
longed to be an Orlando kid. I did actually, especially because in my
teenage years, Orlando had teen clubs
called The Grooves.
The groove was my mecca.
I would leave high school and go right
from like high school Friday to Orlando
and spend the weekend with my friends in Orlando
and I would be at the teen clubs with like a cowboy hat.
And like...
This sounds heavenly honest.
That was exactly what on the island I pictured it being.
Yes.
But like no social media, no phones.
We're just at the teen club.
And you're going to...
Your Stetsons.
Yeah.
What was like that big,
um, human event of the galaxy is going to find
the loving feels so good.
And that's what takes me high.
Oh, wow.
And then what are you throwing back?
It's got a cowboy hat on is so wrong, but so right.
So right.
But what are you throwing back?
Fruit juice.
Diet coax.
Yes.
Well, this was a time when there was no limits on soda.
Now they've banned soda.
It's almost like you can't even say the words Sprite.
You can't even say the words.
full fat Coke, they'll come for you.
They'll come for you. They'll come for your kids.
It was freedom back then. We really had it made.
I just remember being that, being like young and just watching my Nickelodeon
and knowing that everyone on my television was at Universal Studios, Florida, filmed before a live
studio audience, and I would run around in a circle just drinking soda until I passed out.
I had the energy for it and the ability to consume it.
And you just wanted to be at the groove so badly.
Well, especially Tampa, you're talking about Tampa, you aspire to Orlando.
Yeah.
Like, Long Island, you aspire to Tampa so that you can even get close to, I know, I know.
But Florida had a different image then.
It did.
And I think because I've known, I know too much, you know.
You know too much.
Right.
But here's a weird story is then after I was in the teen clubs in Orlando, I made it to Hollywood.
You know, American Dreams is happening.
I'm 15 when I do the pilot.
And then it gets really dark because there's teen clubs in Atlanta.
It's a different flavor.
It's a different flavor.
Same fruit juice and same soda.
But there's different stuff in the fruit juice.
But there's different people in the fruit juice.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
There was a teen, like, club that behind a door,
there was like an A-list portion of this club.
Oh, no.
It was at Hollywood and Highland.
And basically if you were on like a CW show,
but at the time it was WB,
or if you were on any sort of like show,
like Lizzie McGuire or something like that,
We were all back there in this room and we were all in this little, way smaller than this room, together, just drinking soda.
Soda, quote, unquote, soda?
Definitely soda.
Definitely soda.
We were 15, 16 years old.
So does that engender a kind of like, oh, I get it.
There's a hierarchy.
There's a stratum.
Like, that's so, I mean, but I guess that happens everywhere, like in high school.
You got to the head of the team club line if you were on a show,
which was already so bizarre,
but somehow we just knew that we go to the front of the last.
So you were talking about this is like you and Hillary Duff drinking soda in the back.
Lindsay and Rachel Wood,
all the kids that were ever on 7th Heaven, you know, things like that, yeah.
Ms. Beal.
Miss Beal was never there.
She wasn't there?
It was David.
David.
Oh, I loved David.
Who was an in deepened in hearts with me.
That's what I was going to, you know I'm going to.
to ask you about Kingdom Hearts.
You pointed to Bowen-Yang and say Kingdom Hearts
because you said, I want my video game cred.
That's right.
So I've had the Florida portion.
Go ahead, take the Kingdom Hearts portion.
This is a first for me.
I have nothing specific prepared for you
in the way of questioning.
Good.
This is weird.
What would you like to be asked about Kingdom Hearts?
Truly anything because I do not remember doing it.
Fine.
Okay.
I think I was 16 and I knew I was doing a video game.
and I knew it had to do with Disney.
Yep.
And that's all I knew.
Sure.
So I remember, the only thing that I remember about that time
is that the guy who was like the sound editor
was really familiar with Christina Aguilera
because he had just done Milan and she sang.
Reflection.
And I wanted to know everything about Christina Aguilera.
And so I just pumped him for information.
But other than that, no clue.
Lovely.
So that's my one memory.
That's how it is in the booth.
Okay, and let's get real about the industry.
Sometimes when you go into the vocal booth for these things, you go, sure, I'm playing a cat named Gary.
Okay.
And I have no memory of it.
I was in the vocal booth today.
And do you remember anything you did?
You just told us.
I remember using my voice in all kinds of ways for an animated character.
I'll blackout, ask me again in 25 years.
Sure.
Thank you guys for making me feel better about that.
Of course, literally.
You shouldn't feel any way about the kingdom hearts of it all.
Thank you for being honest about it.
But I will let you know.
how important your character nominate is.
Oh, that's so great.
You never played it?
No, I don't, I've never played the game.
I don't even know what I do.
Okay, so you play, so in the world of this game.
Terrible.
Not terrible. Oh, please, not terrible.
No, because this is going to be thrilling.
Paint the picture.
Well, first of all, you have a stacked cast.
Well, I'll get to that later.
But in the world of Kingdom Hearts,
the crossover game from Disney and Square Enix,
famous, one of the best video game sort of distributors and companies of all time,
Final Fantasy, it's their sort of mashup. And so Haley Joel Osmond plays Sora,
Hayden Panetteer plays Kyrie, and David plays Riku. Anyway, the three of them start off on
this island. They get dispersed when the heartless come and corrupt the soul of their planet.
Now, in the process of getting your heart corrupted, you get a vessel of yourself, a copy of
yourself comes into the world named a nobody.
Yes, I do remember saying me.
So you are Hayden Panetteer's nobody.
You are Hayden Panetteer's nobody.
I mean, wasn't the first time.
No, no, no, no, no.
She was like, I wanted to save the world to be the cheerleader.
Definitely.
At that time, hell yeah.
Of course, but that was the role.
Do you want to know some interesting, like, facts?
Hayden Paneterre and I have known each other since I was 12 years old.
She was played my little sister on a soap opera.
No kidding.
Was it guiding light?
Guiding Light?
Wow.
You were on Guiding Light?
Yes.
That was one of my first jobs and she was my little sister and we knew each other very well.
We did a lot of scenes together.
And she was like a baby person when we were on Guiding Light.
I don't know, the difference between 8 and 12 is so vast for some reason.
So I just looked so down to her and then when she was on Heroes, I was like, oh, she's like a human.
So when we did Kingdom Hearts, I did feel like, oh, this makes sense.
We're playing connected again.
So it makes, yeah, I'm a shell.
Oh, no, I'm the nobody.
No, no, no.
I'm the shell of the person.
You are Kyrie.
I'm the shell of the person.
That tracks.
No, no, this is, this is, no.
I'm about to give one last year.
I won't, I won't dwell too much on this.
I just, I've always wanted to tell you like how.
It's thrilling watching you.
It's thrilling watching.
Because now I feel like I really learned.
So Kyrie is so special.
So these three kids, Sorrika and Kyra's are very special.
And so.
Kyrie gets turned into a heartless
and so then she turns back to a human
but then Nominee your character enters the world
and because she is Kyrie's nobody
she has the special power
to rearrange people's memories
and you are a nominee gets recruited by
the bad guys to
basically like refabricate
Sora Haley Joel Osman's memory
and it's a profound thing
this is I mean kind of ironic that you're speaking of
memory because that jolted my memory.
Yeah. Because I, I remember
having to do a scene about that, about how I got
his memory back. Yes. Wow.
Haven't thought about that in a
Of course. This is a big part of Bowen Yang's
formative culture. Oh, no. And there's still
a very, very active community
of people who adore that. It's a
formative, formative piece of pop culture
history. And video, it's one of the most
pop cultural, like,
video game items ever.
And so, and then Haley Joel
Osmond's nobody is play, is Roxas, is
played by Jesse McCartney.
It's like it was, it was such, it was.
So who's who of the stars of that time?
It was kids who were in the A-list of the LA clubs.
It was all the soda drinkers.
Yeah, we were back there drinking soda.
Yeah.
A lot of these names were drinking the soda.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Drinking the soda might be title of it.
Drinking the soda.
What was your order?
Do you remember?
I mean, I just remember being so excited to go back in this room.
Yeah.
That like, I don't even know if I drank soda.
Oh my gosh.
I think I was just looking around like,
I too could one day be on the
WB, you know? Like, that's,
that was the pinnacle for me.
Absolutely.
Who NBC, American Dreams.
I know.
I wanted to be with the frog.
Well, the top hat.
The frog and the top hat.
But speaking, we were just talking
before we started about how like when you're in
Florida and you're,
because this was also the time of Mickey Mouse Club.
Yeah.
Like that was something that you wanted
but were just a smidge too young.
Yes, that was, I aspired to be,
that's all I wanted was to be on the Mickey Mouse Club.
I would practice.
I would tell my mom when I was going to
do in my audition.
And yeah, I was too young.
Just think of where I could have been.
But then you book Prestige TV.
There you go.
I mean, not right away.
Oh, you mean American Dreams?
I think American dreams.
Like, I just remember watching it with my family and it being like so dramatically
potent.
I would be so curious to go back and watch it now.
Yeah.
Your older brother and that was hot.
It's weird to say he was.
This is a memory.
I just jogged my own memory of it.
I was like, I think he was one of my first like crushes.
Oh, that makes sense.
It would have been one of my first things of like, hmm, like when a dog sees, like, sees...
When a dog realizes it's gay?
You know, like, when a dog realizes it's gay?
Yeah.
Because it sees the older brother for American dreams.
That was kind of me.
That was more.
It was very that.
It was very that.
The ears.
One of the best things about that show was one of its features, one of the things that
made it serrated, was that a different guest star would come in and play a guest star from
American bandstand.
And we were just talking about a couple, like, Ashanti.
was Dionne Warwick.
Like, you know, Kelly Clarkson was Brenda Lee.
I think in one of the first episodes.
What?
Yes.
In like the third episode, she played Brenda Lee.
We talk about it every time I go on the show.
I'm like, can you believe that that was one of your first jobs?
Yeah.
I mean, she just won American Idol.
So do you have any memories of like particular people coming through?
Do you have a favorite memory of someone?
Because at the time you're like fully the star of the show, but also like a kid who's got idol worship.
Usher came on and was Marvin Gay.
And that was really cool.
He was so lovely.
Yeah.
And he, like, danced a little bit.
And I remember that that was really cool.
I also, everyone was so lovely.
There was, like, two people that I won't name.
Sure.
Yeah.
That broke my soul because they were sort of mean.
And I was like, you're getting to play an iconic person.
Like, this is a cool little job.
Of course.
When you're mean, you're mean.
Yeah.
Who wasn't mean, though, who I just sat behind at the VMAs,
which is a bizarre sentence to say, was Paris Hilton.
played, um, uh, um, she was a Barbara, Barbara, I Dream of Jeannie.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Thanks, Doug.
Thank you go. I was like, yeah. I think he just perked up like a dog over there about Barbara
Eden. Um, oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She was lovely, actually, like, really lovely.
I mean, you were getting this like pretty cool glimpse, like on maybe not a weekly basis or whatever the
cadence was, but like, you get this glimpse into like how like different case studies on like
how fame works or how it affects certain people depending on like who comes in, right?
Definitely. And at that time, there was no social media, which I think was sort of a
detriment to the show because I think if it was in a different time, people with that sort
of following would have blown the show up because everybody who was coming on the show would
have wanted to, you know, gram about it and tweet about it or whatever. But back then, it was
just like, oh, coming next Sunday, get to see Usher being Marvin Gay, you know. And so you really
got to see who the inner workings of their team was and how they conducted themselves on set
because they were only there for such a short period of time that you saw such like a glimpse
into who they were. And then they left. And we were always sort of like, wow, that was a surreal
thing. And much like what we were doing on the show. We were sort of meta in that way of being
real American bands and audience members being like, oh my God, there's these icons.
Totally. Do you think that grounds you? I feel like, because like I think the feature that I sort
of, not the feature. I mean, I don't want to talk about you in that term. You can talk about me while
I'm sitting here for sure. Okay, but sure. I'm always so struck by how grounded you are.
Like, you're, there's, there's something so really just, I don't know, so stoic but warm,
but, you know, I think, I think that is a pretty remarkable thing. You hold the center.
We'll hold the center.
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I have to say, like, just to speak about, like, the next, like, thing that happened was, was hairspray before or after pitch perfect?
It was before.
After John Tucker?
John Tucker was first.
John Tucker was
And then you got to really act with Ashanti
I'd really acted with Ashanti
I love Ashanti
Her laugh is exactly the same
It's so like perfect
Like a little cute cackle
And I just adore her
And she at the time was just starting to date
Nelly which talked about a cultural
phenomenon
We were at dinner one time
And I could barely keep it together
I was just like
Yeah it's Nelly
But no it was a really
It was a really great time
But I think to go back to
I guess the original question
was that I went through like a lot of these types of movies really early on,
but I always was sort of like struggling with something at the time or went really up and down
and had all these different obstacles going on in my personal life that I never really was
present with what was going on or like saw it for what it really was.
And so in hindsight, it actually made me really grounded because I couldn't get my head
up in the clouds or see it from another macro view.
I was too busy just trying to keep my shit together.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Doesn't bring it down.
No, no.
That's not bringing it down at all.
Especially because like a lot of the things that I think, well, for example, John Tucker and then pitch perfect, you're around a lot of, you're in great ensembles with people with people.
So I would imagine that that's like kind of cool because you can make friends and get in touch with people.
But you're also all kind of have the same POV on this thing that's happening to us.
So that has to be like a little bit like.
Definitely.
It's always really helpful.
And I think something that.
that I've innately had about me since I was a kid is that I'm pretty perceptive and self-aware,
almost to a fault sometimes. So I do see like what other people are taking in and how they're
reacting to what the movie's doing or what they're getting from things. And I just, yeah,
and then I sort of like go about what I want to do. Yeah. If that makes any sense.
Totally. But having that sort of duality of knowing that someone else is doing something over here
and I don't necessarily need to
has always been really helpful for me.
Being like,
we're just going to let them go there.
You're right, though.
It is, it is this thing that either is discombobulating
or really grounding the duality that you're talking about,
which is like being in ensembles of people close to your age,
including up until now, up until hunting wives.
Yeah.
You know?
It's actually really nice.
I mean, it kind of makes me believe that people want me to see,
like, see me in movies that have to do with, like,
female friendship or like community or that I'm always in a group of people. I mean, it's better than
just me playing like, I don't know, a castaway character and just being alone in all my movies
and people being like, I don't really want to see her interacting with anybody. You know, I like that
I'm always around other people and all these movies. It shows that maybe I'm friendly. I feel like
also the thing is, I believe it was like Tina Fey who once said like you need a really nice person
to play a really mean person. That's why you were such a good Amber von Tossel is because it was like
you did it so well. But like you in the season.
weren't snapped out of the movie
because it wasn't that deep
but like you were so
and also like she does get a little
no she doesn't get redemption in the movie
she gets redemption in the Broadway musical
Amber. She does get a little bit
not redemption but I think she has a change
of heart towards the end
yeah because she sort of
without the power struggle
of her and her mom she sort of sees
it from a new and it's so slight
I mean it's at the very end of the movie
like you can't stop to be like maybe Amber's
having a different perspective and then out in the movie's over
Because did they cut
In the movie
Did they cut
When you and
When Amber and Velma sing
And you can't stop the beat
Or is it
They cut that yeah
See I knew they cut it
Because in the musical
It's this like
Moment where the Von Tussel's like
Kind of fully get brought over the other side
And I remember truly
One of the moments in culture for me
Was seeing that Broadway musical
And just Laura Bell Bundy
On the high harmony of that
Psycho
Like crazy crazy
She's incredible
Did you see that?
Yes. I've obviously seen her, but you know, Laura talking about Guiding Light,
Laura played my aunt. What? Guiding Light, yes. Laura Bell Bundy did. Yes. And Laura and I are very
dear friends. And so getting to take over, you know, or passing the baton in a way to me for
to do the movie was sort of really, really nice. And she gave me her full blessing, which was huge
because I can't sing like Laura Bell Bunny. Like she's unbelievable. You're a wonderful singer.
I'm not. But I, but like Laura Bell Bundy as like,
A Mariah Carey of Broadway.
Of course.
No, Laura Bell is, I'll never forget that sound.
Yes.
Because it was the first time I heard, like, live.
I think it might have been my first, second Broadway show.
And just them app.
So her launching that high harmony, I think, like, changed something about my life.
It was another.
It was another.
But it was like, again, it was a dog realizing he was gay.
You know what a dog hears Laura Bell Bundy do, the high harmony belted?
And they realize it's gay.
But yeah, that.
We have to point out something, though.
Guiding Light and just soaps in general, it's like, the longer I, like, absorb knowledge about this business, the more I'm convinced that that is where, like, the flames that forge these actors is, like, no other flame in the world. What a weird metaphor. But it's like, you, but it's like...
Catch you on fire. Yeah.
You and Hayden and Laura, but also like you talked to, we had Lisa Rinna on earlier and she's like obviously a soap queen and like our friend Sarah Sherman was on General Hospital and she's just like, it's that thing where like if you ask a soap start a cry, they ask which eye.
Yes.
You know the which eye thing?
I can't do it out of which eye, but I can cry.
Of course you can.
Every scene in hunting wives, we turn, our house just turns to each other and goes, Britney motherfucking snow.
No.
No, there's a million things to talk to you about.
But, like, let's just talk about hunting wives
because it's been ordered.
Yeah.
So.
Also, I have some bones to pick what you do.
Sure.
Sure.
Well, let's start with the bones.
Well, when I listen to the Snow Bunny's episode.
Britney Snow Bunny.
We are a hoppy.
Which I will put on my tombstone.
I did notice that at first you love.
Yeah.
You were unsure of the macros.
And Rebecca and I talked about this during the Emmys.
Because I will say, Rebecca, Katie Lowe's, Brittany Snow, Mullen Ackerman, Chris Cressie Matt's, like, you were the bells of the ball.
Yeah.
And you and I did have a really, I thought, poignant conversation about how, like, it was so interesting to be at one of those parties from the perspective.
Because you were like, I've been at these parties when it is really weird.
If, like, you get asked, like, what are you working on?
You're like, oh, I'm just kind of.
Yeah.
It's weird to be in that space.
And, like, that's just like the whole industry where it's small in that space, right?
And it's like, that's like the broader scope of like this business.
It's like, well, if you're in between stuff, it's, it's a little weird to like communicate that and you're not sure how to feel about this.
But anyway, Rebecca and I kind of talked it out.
And I was like, thank you for letting me like come to that understanding and that realization in real time for myself on the podcast.
Because I was like, I don't know what this is what the show is doing.
I think a lot of people have that reaction.
But I think the terminus is pretty broadly and generally like, oh my God, this show is bonkers, camp.
Like, it's good nutritional value, I think.
Yes, it is.
I'm not sure it's nutritional, but it's definitely,
and you know what's funny is that, and Rebecca will attest to this,
we weren't necessarily trying to do like high, high camp.
Sure.
We were, it was sort of somewhere in the middle.
And then as we were kind of doing the show,
I sort of like realized it was sort of like when, you know,
like a beautiful mind when things start like coming into view
where I was like, oh, we're not really making big little lies.
No, but you know what? You playing it like it was is why it works because you again hold the center.
Well, that was a conscious choice. And sometimes it didn't work out. But I did feel like if I lose, if I lose the plot, if I'm sort of over the top in a way, then you don't have a groundedness at all. But sometimes I do wish that I pushed it a little bit. But I think that that's what next season is for a little bit.
Because now you're going to crack after what happened in the finale.
Yeah, she's crazy.
She's not.
This is a woman who's, you know, almost 40, and she's like, I must keep myself caged.
And if I don't, then everything will unravel.
I have the capacity for hysteria.
Yeah, I have the capacity to really go off the rails.
And so I have to keep myself really small, which is why I played it pretty, like, small in general.
And then I would have these big moments.
But then without them, you're kind of like, she's just sort of small.
Interesting.
Honestly, though, it kind of makes the voicemail scene jump out even.
more. Yeah. That's probably true. Because it's an excellence. Because that's an excellent scene.
I, I loved that because we've all left that voice. Yeah. Or we wish we did. Yeah, truly.
I sometimes will record it and send it to a friend. I recently. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I recently had a
gnarly thought I wanted to tell someone. Yeah. Because I found out someone did something. And I recorded
the voicemail. I've recorded a voice memo and sent it to our friend Jared just to try it out. And he was like, I didn't know what the
context was and thought you were talking to me and I listened to the first five seconds and
had to lay down. He was like, now I understand you cannot send this. I was like, oh my God,
I'm sorry, you should have read the other text. I was like, this is not to you.
Wait, that's really great hindsight or not hindsight, but like foresight to send it to somebody
first. I don't have that within me. Well, I don't know. It probably was a little bit like
too much of me just cold send it to Jared. But honestly, have me having like put it out there,
it did something for me. Yes. So pro tip. That is a therapy tactic.
that you're supposed to do that where you exercise and you get it out,
but you don't really necessarily send it.
I don't always subscribe to that.
Like the writing it down,
but you don't actually send it to them.
No,
I want the forcefulness of them breeding.
I wanted to ask about like hunting wives,
obviously a little bit more,
but just because you talk,
we're talking about this,
like I wanted to ask about love is louder.
Yeah.
So, like, that's still ongoing.
I don't work with love is louder anymore.
No, I founded it in 2010 with a friend of mine,
and then it kind of became a different thing.
in 2020. But I have a new charity that I started with a friend of mine called September
Letters that I started in 2020 that is sort of in the same way where it's like a therapeutic
letter writing experience where- Speaking of writing it down. We're writing it down. But we do all
sorts of different types of letter writing. But it comes from the idea that I actually read an article
when I was going through a really hard time when I was a teenager. And that article gave me sort of like
the hope that I needed that someone else had what I had. Because in the 90s, when you're a teenager,
no one's talking about depression, eating disorders, anxiety, anything like that.
And in a fitness magazine, this girl was talking about it.
And so I ripped out that article and carried in my back pocket as like a symbol that I was
going to be okay.
And then later when I got a lot of recovery, I did a magazine article.
And the magazine article had come out.
And I had talked about how that article really infused my recovery.
And this girl at a coffee shop saw me.
And she turned around and started crying.
and she was holding my article in her back pocket.
And so September letters was worn out of the idea that you sharing your story might just
be really small to you, but it might be the story that someone needs to feel like there's hope.
So that was amazing.
That's why you got to write it down.
Well, or at least share it in a way that makes someone else feel seen, I guess.
That's so important.
But you're just amplifying the power of sharing by, like within that story.
Like you have like this nesting doll thing where it's like someone else shared a story,
so I'm going to share mine.
Yeah.
And then this girl at the coffee shop has your, your sort of version of that that is like encased in this other person's truly powerful thing.
Yeah, it was a true like pay it forward chain mail type of moment where, yeah, you think you're doing this one little small thing and it turns out to be really helpful to somebody that you might not even know down the line.
Yep.
So that's, that's what I continuously work on as well, September letters.
Yeah.
Beautiful.
Gosh, chain mail being like, being the thing that your parents.
would do over email.
Like, that was like the online behavior
that your parents would partake in
where you go, oh, mom, no.
But now it's like sharing an article
about how like, you know.
We're all doing chain mail, really.
We're all doing a version of chain mail
that is, yeah, a little fucked.
Wait, I do want to go back to hunting wipes.
I want to open the floor before we ask you
more about hunting wipes and the question.
Oh, yeah, what was your other bone?
What are your other bones?
And also TikTok things that are maybe
getting at you.
Right.
I'm throwing a lot.
you. Yeah, yeah. All the things that are annoying. No. You were never annoying about hunting wives.
I was actually in agreement with a lot of a lot of the things that you said. I'm on board.
I'm so. First of all, it's fun. That's why it's so great is because it's fun and it's like so
committed to. Like I felt so safe in every episode because I'm like, these women are tearing
it up. I'm telling you, I'm such a fan of everyone. In particular, I want to shout out Katie Lowe's.
Katie Lowe's rocks man
And I when she came in with that hair blown out
Like she was just
It's behind her eyes
Like she is in it
And for her last line
After she shot in the chest
To be you cunts
It's the best way to die
Come on
I was like that's when I was like
This is the best show
It's the best show
But now I'm just upset
Because so many of the women are dead
I know and Katie Lowe's
And I got very close
And I just think she's the most special human
I mean all of the women are
But I'm very, very upset that she's dead.
Can we she come back?
Like, I feel like the Hunting Wives is a show where she could have a twin.
She could have a twin.
We've already talked about that.
I don't think that's a possibility.
But we do, we were like, what would her name be, Jill?
Is it Nell?
Jell.
Jell, her evil sister.
It's me, Jell.
That's, I want to be in the room.
I do think that my pitch for Hunting Wives Season 2.
Yeah.
Is that Jamie Ray Newman's character with her new show comes on Lost Culturistas and we play
ourselves and she gets us
to be right wing. Yes.
Wait, I just got chills.
Yeah. And now I kind of like
ruined it, but literally it's like
you ever see
a monster, the Lila and Eric Menendez
thing? So you know the oneer
with Cooper Koch when he's like
doing the thing? I think it's that but it's
lost coach. It's a 90 minute episode
of Hunting Wives, which is Jamie
Ray Newman playing her character and us as
Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. And by the end
you see how powerful she is because she got
lost Colch to be like, yeah, for sure.
To fully go right.
I mean, I feel like she could do that.
She's really good.
She's an amazing actor.
Yeah, she's a really good.
No, not only is she an amazing actor, but like that character.
Oh, yeah.
She pegged her husband in the butt.
So don't tell me about the show being, you know, like, when I heard the, the dildo come
out of the butt, you know, we re-wound it 15 times.
I remember listening to that.
Oh, because we break that down.
We folied it.
We were in Peatown and it was.
was the most graphic anal sex either of us experienced.
And we were in P-Town when we watched it.
I'm not taking it out.
Don't take it out.
The PR, I'm not taking it out.
No, no. Let, let Brittany react to that.
Come on.
I believe you.
At what point did the beautiful mind moment happen for you
while you were making the show where you were like, wait a minute.
It was pretty early on.
I mean, it was really, I mean, once you see Katie Lowe's
and everybody's, you know,
Malin and the wick, you know, it was sort of immediate,
But in rehearsals and stuff, not aware.
Not aware.
Once we got on set and I was sort of seeing the shots and the color, I was like,
Oh, okay, okay.
I know what we're doing here.
This is why, are you, are you someone who watches dailies or do you, do you watch, like,
playback, like, what's on them, like, do you watch what's on the monitor?
Not really.
I do think I, sometimes it's helpful to just know at the very beginning, but I'm not a person
that is micromanaging myself because I'll go insane.
Of course, same.
And I always think I can do better.
So there's never a time that I'm going to be like.
like, nailed it.
Nailed it.
Yeah.
Moving on.
Right.
Right.
So I always want to go again.
Of course.
Yeah.
But I do think that's helpful just to get the, it does inform like the, you know, the screen picture of it kind of just informs the tone.
As an actor, you're like, gotcha.
I can lock into what this is.
But I do think from the very beginning, there was a very clear understanding of the, of what we were making in terms of like the women that were on the show, what kind of women we were going to.
to be that we're like not 20 years old and we're having these sex scenes.
Like we're in our late 30s, 40s, and we're going to be like powerful and this is for
the woman gays.
And we're going to like go for it.
That was never a question.
We were never like shy about, oh, I wonder if this is going to be too much.
Like I wonder if we can pull back this scene when we get to it.
I won't raise anything now, but it might be a little uncomfortable.
No, you guys have to be going for it.
We knew going into it.
And we signed up for that.
And I think that that's something that we're proud of.
You should be.
Oh, my God.
Those are amazing.
Hollywood wants to kind of disregard women after the age of 32 for sex scenes, specifically of nudity
and things that are sort of like women coming into their own sexual, like, promulists.
And I think that this was just like, no, we're going to still have this be very prevalent
in a woman's life even after she's of a Hollywood age of, you know.
Meanwhile, they're the most sensual, sexy, sexy.
sex scenes i've ever seen like y'all y'all eating box is like the craziest most that it's the
horniest i've ever i'm so mullin when she eats box like come on baby like you know what i mean like
the way that she i know it's it's trust me wait that was really hot no i'm malin and that's just
the truth oh my god i'm like i'm sweating i have to meet her because i know i'm her you know i know you
Never sees someone and you're like, I'm them, so I have to meet them.
For me, it's Malin and Kate Hudson.
Yeah.
That is a really good comp all around.
No, three of us need to have the filthiest martinis that...
You guys would never leave.
I feel...
We wouldn't.
We would try to be...
I want to be there, but then I feel like I'd leave after a while.
You would get tired, and it's just because that conversation would come up that you'd be like,
I'm not getting into this with these three.
No, I'd probably get too drunk and just want to take a nap.
We're so the same.
Brittany andard are so the same.
Y'all, you really are.
Bowen is the king of, like...
I'm tired.
I'm going home.
But I'm going to rage until I get tired.
For sure.
Of course. Absolutely.
That was my like M.O.
on the Pitch Perfect set.
It's like, guys, we're young once.
We got rage.
So you were the ringleader?
Oh, I was definitely the ringleader.
Really?
Yeah, especially in Pitch Perfect one.
I was like, we're all 25.
We're doing a movie about singing and dancing.
Yeah.
We're going out.
We got to go.
Are you guys still in touch?
Yeah, we're all very close.
Let me ask, is there a Pitch Perfect group chat?
I feel like that's the most like.
Terrible.
question. I'm allowed to say that because they're not,
they don't exist. Oh, RIP, yes.
Well, I would love them while they were here.
Yeah, there is a group chat.
Yeah. How active is it?
It's pretty, it's died off
like in the past couple months?
It's died off since the second sequel. Yeah.
No, no. Oh, in the past couple months?
That's pretty recent. Yeah, pretty recently.
And not on purpose. I think everybody's
just older now. I'm trying to think, what happened
a couple months ago? Did anything go down?
No, nothing went down. Stuyler
had a birthday recently. Oh, I love.
Oh, yeah. I love Skylar, too.
I don't know him.
Recent Skylar birthday.
Anna, Anna, I love.
I love Anna Camp and Anna Kendrick, both legends.
Yes.
We're Ben Platt heads, of course.
I mean, we're Ben Platt, enthusiasts.
Of course, me too.
First me you ever did was with Rebel.
Oh, my God.
Isn't it romantic?
Oh, my God.
I was a small, small rule.
With Adam Devine, too.
Yes.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
You are a part of us. You're a part of the plan. I'm in the group chat. Oh, my God.
You can join. That'd be great. Maybe give resurgence to like the whole.
Yes. Wait, wow, Bowen's here.
Bowen's here.
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I wanted to ask you about Adam Shankman too.
So I was on set with Adam working on this thing and he was like, oh, Britney's the best.
And he told the story about how you auditioned for hairspray.
Yes.
It was a process.
It was a process.
I actually told this on like a talk show or something like that.
But it was the audition for hairspray.
This is sort of like very indicative of who I am.
But I'm a pretty anxious auditioner.
I've had to go to much hypnotherapy.
about auditioning.
I want to ask about your hypnotist.
I love my hypnotist.
Okay, I need to know.
She saved my life.
Wow.
I love her.
But auditioning for me, it's not the fact that I am not a bad auditioner and it's not even,
there's something that happens with the pressure, bad test taker.
I'm just really bad at like the battle of my mind that's like, you have one chance to do this.
If you, you know.
So that audition, I was only like 20 years old.
I bombed the audition.
Like, I really, really did badly.
I got in my head.
And I knew I could do it,
and I knew I was right for the role.
And Laura Bell already gave me the stamp of approval.
And I had gone to a psychic two years before
when I was filming John Tucker Must Die.
And the psychic told me that I was going to play
the daughter of an iconic blonde woman who was very famous.
And she was like, it's going to be two years from now.
And I was like, that's so specific.
Well, they're real.
I mean
I have something to say
about psychics and a psych him
but then I put that away
I write it down
and I put it away
and then this audition comes up
Adam calls me
because he had directed me
in Pacifier
the Pacifier so
yeah we won't get into that
and so we were already friends
and he called me
and he was like
you know
that just wasn't your best
and I was like I know
I'm sorry I let you down
and he was like
it's okay
like I still love you
but it's really sad
because Michelle Pfeiffer just signed on to play Velma
and she's so iconic.
And you guys look so similar.
And I was like, iconic.
And then I was like, wait a second.
I need to go back to my journal.
And I looked up and by the time that Hairspray would have come out,
it would have been two years.
Wow.
So I called out and back and I said,
I know this is crazy,
but a psychic told me that I was going to play the daughter
of an iconic, legendary blonde woman.
And it's too weird for this not to be true.
Can I just audition again?
One more time.
And he was like, you're the craziest human being alive.
You've either lost your mind or this is going to be really funny story one day.
I'm going to let you audition again.
And so he let me audition again and I nailed the audition.
And you know why?
I nailed it is because I had that sort of like talking in my head, that voice in my head, psychic or not, that was like, this is meant to be.
You already have it.
You have that subconscious underpinning where you're like, it's fine.
But this is the perfect.
This is why I love this story, though, because I did see that interview.
It blew my mind where you told the story.
It's the perfect marriage of like, okay, it's whatever, it's predestined,
but also you had to pick up the phone and call them back.
You needed to sound like, but you took that information.
You were like, I'm going to take this into my own hands.
It's like free will and predeterminism.
And that's why like when people have heard that story and they're like,
I don't believe in psychics, you're promoting, you know,
and I'm like, whatever.
It doesn't matter if you believe in psychics or not.
Who cares?
What really goes to show is that what really helped me was the fact that I wanted to take a chance
on myself.
I knew I could do it.
and I just needed another opportunity and I needed to be my own, like, biggest cheerleader and
to do it again. And I think that everybody going into something like an audition with the foresight
that it's already in your hands, you just have to take it is so, that's the recipe for doing well
in any sort of pressure situation. If you need us to pretend to be a psychic,
anytime you're in doubt, I am one. No.
Really?
No.
But I do think I have like something
I bet you do
I have something
What do you see?
What do you see for Brittany?
Greatness
I was going to say greatness
That's crazy
Wow
That's crazy
I'm telling you there's something here
Literally
If Malin was here
This would be even more of a turn-up
Absolutely
Because I see greatness in our future episode
With her too
Oh absolutely
Well yeah
This is it's all it's all cooking
Wait but tell me your thing
about psychics? Like what, what additionally? Like you said, you said, you want to say something about
psychics? Oh, no, that was my thing I was going to say. Oh, what? But I do love psychics. I am a
psychics. I think that, I think that it really obviously depends on the one. But okay, I'm going to share
this. I saw one that used to be my writing teacher in college. Like he was at Tisch, he was my
dramatic writing teacher. Like, he was like a craft of writing teacher. And we knew that he was also like,
He speaks to spirit, like in some way.
He's like more of a reader.
He wouldn't use the word psychic.
He's like a medium.
He's like a medium, yes, that's it.
Yeah.
So years have passed.
It's been, I don't know, how long since we were in college, like 13 years?
13 years.
I finally, like, I'm like, I'm going to look him up and I'm going to get a reading with him.
I look him up.
It's like an eight-month waiting list.
Oh.
And I'm like, okay.
So I get on the waiting list.
Literally eight months later, I've forgotten about it.
I get an email.
When was this?
time. This is like three months ago. And he goes, and I sit down with him and he goes, where do I know
you from? And I was like, you actually were my teacher in college. I've been waiting years to have a
reading with you. He was like, oh my God, I was like, how are you? I was like, how is it going? I was
like, I mean, I guess I don't want to tell you too much. Right. But like, it's the perfect.
But he was like, well, what? You tell me how he's so he goes, you're right, you're right. Don't say anything.
Don't say anything. So he starts going, et cetera. He's like, you are successful. He's like, I was
like, yeah, I mean, like, I'm doing it in the entertainment industry, et cetera. I'm proud
to tell you that. I kind of got like a little emotional. And so then he was like, you are single
and that's what you're, what's what you want to talk to me about. And I was just like, yeah.
And he goes, September. He goes like small blonde. He's coming in September. I don't know this story.
I don't know this story, but my, my jaw has dropped because it's happening. Right. I'm sure. I figured
that was. And he goes, and well, he was, he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like,
like, that's, you're the Petit Blonde. No.
Yeah. It's you.
But that, that, I didn't tell you that. But I haven't been saying it out loud. That's the first thing.
That's incredible. I know. I may have even said too much, but like, that's really sweet. And I've
had them before. When you said that, I was like, I want to get into this because I do believe that
there are people with extra senses. I mean, we had Tyler Henry on this show. We had Tyler Henry on
the show. Talk about your hypnotist. I do love my hypnotist. I mean, I'm, you know, I feel like
This is so like woo-woo stuff that I really do believe in, though.
Especially hypnotism, I think, is the way that she described it to me,
which I thought was kind of interesting,
is like, because she does it where you listen to it every night as you go to bed.
So you're in that sort of like Peter Pan, not asleep, not awake, like dream state.
And so when someone, you know, says something to you,
you're more susceptible to what it's saying.
So you start believing it because you don't have your conscious voice saying,
I don't think that's true.
Wow.
So then after a while, you start to just take.
taken in as fact. Like when you're falling asleep and you're sort of half awake and there's football
and the TV and all of a sudden you're having a dream about football, but you don't know anything
about football. Like that is sort of this mechanism in your brain that sort of rewires your like
your subconscious. And so after a while, you're you're listening to it as you're dreaming and so
your subconscious starts to take it in and that's what really worked for me. It was like
going into places and just not having any sort of like fear about what the outside.
come was going to be, but just like actually having fun in the moment. Yeah. And that completely rewired by
it sounds bad to say rewired, but it, but it made me take a new thought pattern in terms of like what
what I thought was going to be true. That's a rewiring for sure. If it is calming you down on like a
somatic level, like going into these situations where you would feel an amount of pressure.
Yeah. You're not feeling that. That's, that's incredibly, that is something that's happening up here
entirely. Yeah. And I, I, I, I,
do feel like it was whether or not you know and maybe it's through osmosis of I don't know like
it could be nothing over time either way but does it matter you're doing something like I don't know
if it matters necessarily as well as it's like helping you and you feel better absolutely I think also
it's just like it's it's what you want to get out of it yeah you know what I mean like like I
I think it's did you go for something specific or it was for so I mean this is such a downer conversation
But I took a break from acting from 23 to 25.
It was in that period?
It was, and I had to get my shit together.
It was like, you know, I'd been a kid actor for so long that I really needed to like
rework some stuff in terms of getting better.
And then when I was 25, I was going back to auditioning again.
And the pressure was too much for my brain because I was like, you had your career at 23.
Can you get it back?
And I didn't know if I could.
And so I developed this really fun anxiety disorder.
where I couldn't speak in public.
And so I would go to speak in auditions and I would actually not be able to like make, it would like stop.
My body would just like take over and I would be so nervous that I couldn't speak.
And so I went for that.
So I could.
And now I walk into auditions or I walk into like public speaking or the Emmys presenting at the Emmys.
Right.
I mean, when I was 25, that would not have been able to happen, you know.
And it's it's really due to that, I think.
When you think about like what about it made you nervous, was it just like the things I say are going to get me, are going to be listened to and then judge?
Or is it just like the idea of being in front of people.
Yeah, it was the, it was the idea that I was going to mess it up, that I was going to mess up.
You're going to mess up. You're going to mess up. You're going to mess up. You're going to mess up. And then I would.
But if I just took that voice away, then I just am present and I'm not thinking that. But I had to. Yeah.
It was work.
25, you know. What a time.
What a time.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I just, I think I said it on the pod.
Like, you and Mullen was, was the highlight of the Emmys for sure.
And I cannot believe, I was like, they found out they were going on stage to present, like, in the middle of the show.
And they didn't know what their copy was until, like, 10 minutes before they walked out on stage.
We wrote that copy.
You wrote that copy?
We, yes.
I have chills.
Because I couldn't walk in my day.
dress. You kept saying that all night. You're like, I can't move. I can't move. And I couldn't.
You were saying that on the red carpet. I couldn't move. And I was, I was panicking. It was a beautiful
dress. Viterhaft. Yes. So gorgeous. And I was freaking out because I thought it was going to be
fine if I'm just sitting down, you know, doesn't have to walk anywhere. Sure. But the minute they
said we're presenting, I was like, I have to walk in front of all these people and in front of, yes, in this
dress. So we get backstage. We have like 30 minutes till we have to present. There's nothing written.
And they're giving us just sort of boring copy.
And I said to Malin, I was like, I can't walk in my dress.
We have to make this a bit.
Yeah.
Or else people are going to be like, why is she walking so weird?
And so I said, it's going to take me a while to come out.
It's going to take me a while to come out.
I'm coming out.
And she was like, okay, okay, I get it.
Like maybe I could be excited that you got out.
And I'm like, yes, you've been waiting for me to come out.
And so, and then we just were like, we got it.
And so that was 10 minutes before we walked on that.
It was such a perfect.
two-hander. I don't know, this is geeky. Like, I, like, watched it back so many times just to study
your face acting, your face journey in that. That's really funny. Like, you're so, like, it's the
perfect amount of titillation. Like, and like, Malin's just, like, being hot and, like, just standing
there and, like, holding it. She can do absolutely nothing and it's hot. No, but both of you,
I'm like, God, they're really good. Like, you guys are incredible. Like, it truly, I watched it back
so many times. I was like, Brittany, motherfucking snow. Were you already friends? We weren't, but we
known of each other. And she was always somebody that I knew of in terms of like, oh,
she's a cool girl that everyone has always talked about that we would get along. Like people
have said to me. That I've worked with her. That I've worked with her. They're like, have you
met them all in Ackerman? Like she, you guys just seem like you would be on the same page about a lot
of things. Like the Swedish thing. It's like, yeah, it's cool. But she's just so cool in terms of
when we were doing naked scenes or any, you know, intimate scenes. I'd be like, oh, man, I don't
know, like, this is, you know, big.
And she was like, honey, you're a babe.
Like, you're beautiful.
Like, let's get it.
Like, and I was like, okay, you know, it was, it's very calming.
I love just, and also, I have to say, we had a friend who kind of stepped in it with
Malin because he was like, what are you guys going to do about the wig next season?
And she was like, she was like, you know, I had, I had like this, this, this health issue.
And, you know, my hair was not its best.
And so we got this wig out and we just kind of ran with it.
And I was just like, oh, my God.
Like, Malin Ackerman is being...
Everyone making fun of that and it being like an actual thing.
An actual thing.
And she was like so...
And I even texted her like after the fact that I was like, hey.
And like, thank you so much for being so graceful in that moment.
She was like, oh my God, no, what are you talking about?
Like...
She doesn't care.
She doesn't give a fuck.
She does not give a fuck.
I mean, that's the cool thing about like all of us on this show is like, we really are just having the best time and we just don't care.
Like, we're just excited.
But people can love it.
hate it. We had less. I don't like that they did
Chrissy Mets like that. Why did she
have to die? We found her crumpled on the floor.
I know. When we found Chrissy
she was crumpled. Emmy nominated Chrissy Mets.
Was crumpled on the ground. We didn't even get
to see shots
fired. I asked her that at the Netflix party
which was to show. I was like, do you think that
they could, you could come back and we could
film the death scene? Because maybe that
could be like in season two. Yeah.
I feel like she deserves that
I think she deserves a little bit more
than what she got for sure.
Definitely. At least let's see the showdown
because the whole time we had been waiting for the showdown.
Not me critiquing the show.
But I love.
We had a good friend in college on the show, on the pod,
and she went out for that role,
and we each had fun line return
auditioning the Chrissy Metz line of...
Oh, I love that.
Y'all better get back out there and find
my fucking daughter.
Y'all better get out there.
Find out who killed my fucking daughter.
There's so many ways you can do it.
You can be heartbroken.
You can be angry.
You can be urgent.
I saw the tears will up and both of you guys.
You better get out there.
Find my fucking daughter.
It's really good.
Wait.
It's a great line.
You could have been great in that part.
He's amazing.
I'm saying I'm pitching us for the show.
I know.
I know.
Because we can definitely cry during the episode.
Oh, yeah.
I feel like Jamie Ray could get us there.
She could get anyone there.
Which I.
Which I quite trying.
Okay, we have to ask you the question.
Yes, we do.
No, oh my God, don't apologize.
We should apologize.
We need to ask you, Brittany Snow, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me?
You have a great answer.
So when I was a little girl, I strictly watched Meg Ryan movies on a loop.
They were my favorite.
I've seen all of them.
And Meg Ryan specifically to me as a little girl was like the pinnacle of an actress
that I wanted to be, which was she's inherently cute.
She just looks the way that she looks.
So, you know, there's something that she can do about that.
She's adorable.
But she never played her roles as like a ditsy blonde with short hair.
She always was the smartest person in the room.
She always had a point of view.
She always was like a really strong presence in all of her movies.
And I love that dichotomy of like, you don't have to be a ditsy, cutesy,
cutesy, adorable girl that like doesn't know where she's going in the movie.
She knew everything.
in every movie that she was ever in.
So I aspired to be that.
And I just remember watching as like a, you know, eight-year-old being like,
if I could only be Meg Ryan, you know?
But this makes so much sense to me that, like, you would connect with her on that level.
And that I feel like you have, you have sort of, like, brought that Meg Ryan archetype
as if you can call it that into, like, the present.
I feel like you, you have always really occupied that very, like, sharp.
that sharpness in the acting and the technique,
but also in that in the look of like a blonde person,
a gorgeous blonde person that belies this depth
that actually has always been there.
I feel like that is what you guys share.
That's very nice. Thank you.
But like, you know, between God, like we were really eating back then.
Like between Meg Ryan and Julia Roberts, like,
because they made those movies.
Because they made those movie.
But I just remember as a kid watching those movies being like,
those are the most beautiful, smartest, funniest.
Those are movie stars.
Andrew Bullock, Julie Roberts,
Claire Daines, who I just worked with.
I mean, just the most elegant.
Reese would follow right after that.
Reese, I mean, just also like approachable and smart
and you weren't watching them like fall over themselves
and being like, I wonder what's going to happen next.
You know, they were taking charge of the movies.
Sure, yeah, they were the heroines.
I feel like for me, my favorite Meg Ryan is when I met Sally.
Always.
It's one of my favorite movies.
I think it's actually one of the best movies ever.
Oh, yeah.
I agree.
If Letterbox came to me and was like the four,
Peter Mattisle is in there for sure.
That's one I have always forgotten about in that context.
But yeah, it's up there.
It's competitive.
It's a perfect movie.
And speaking of Nora Ephron, and you've got mail, it is kind of the perfect.
It's such an elegant thing of like, okay, it's new, the new way of sort of like flirting
and sort of the new way of courtship in like the, you know, millennium or late 90s.
But like paired with like the fact that it's like, oh, there's a used bookstore and it's like meeting in the park.
It's like the perfect tension of like old and new in that rom-com.
It just feels and like sleeping in Seattle.
It's like there's just she was able to do all these very innovative things in rom-coms.
It's like it wasn't that she like was just thrown into the rom-com genre or that she like helped invent it.
It's just that she like pushed the boundaries of it in that time when it really blew up as a genre.
And I think she also was, I think people forget how good she was at physical comedy too.
She was, she had these manners.
that I've always, I feel like I sort of like emulated on accident.
There's like this really kind of, it's sort of okay movie called Addicted to Love with her and
Matthew Brodrick.
And she is like this biker chick with like eyeliner.
And that's how, you know, she's a rebel is because she wears eyeliner.
And she just like moves like her body very cool and spasticly.
And I just think that it's, it's something that she just really cornered the market of like
adorable all around.
Right.
I mean, where was the Oscar and I'm?
for when Harry met Sally, because the orgasm scene, the fake orgasm scene, that's, that's the that's the peak physical comedy. It's literally and also just it's so it's so lived in. Like it's like you, but you also believe that because she had established a character that like would do that. Right. You know what I mean? Because on the page like obviously incredible script, but that is a leap on the page that it's going to go that far and that way. Right. But you buy it, especially in a movie that's been so grounded, it had been so in reality.
that moment is so kind of wild and crazy,
but you do, you receive it as fact when it's when she's doing it.
Yeah.
And I think that surprising element of all her characters is something that I really love to
is that she can play someone really, really grounded,
but also the element of surprise is always there.
She can always do something like that that's sort of just like out of the box.
And you're just, you feel for her, you like her.
Yeah.
And yeah, I like that.
What was the standard loop?
Like, was there,
like, what was the rotation?
Oh, yeah.
What, how did it work?
Did you guys know about this movie
called French Kiss that she did with Kevin Klein?
I heard about French Kiss.
Were you, like, was it Joe versus the volcano, too?
Joe versus the volcano.
But French Kiss was really my, like, in rotation.
Addicted to Love was in there.
I mean, Top Gun.
She's in, of course.
I was so mad when they didn't bring her back.
That was so disrespectful.
I know.
She's beyond disrespectful.
I know.
Yeah.
Um, but this movie called French Kiss, it's sort of like, there's this part where she's on the train.
She's eating a bunch of cheese.
And she realizes that she's lactose intolerant.
It's one of those like orgasm moments where it's super big, but it's sort of adorable.
Um, and she's sort of like dressed like Diane Keaton, the whole movie.
It's sort of that like androgynous wardrobe that's so great.
And I just, I ate that shit up when I was a kid.
I loved it.
She also took some cool risks.
at the end of that.
You could tell that she probably got like a little tired
of what was happening with her
in the romantic comedy sphere
because she probably maybe a little typecast.
In the cut is a full of Jane Campion movie.
Like she's, she's giving it to you in that.
Right.
Like, see, it's so funny that I've seen it in the cut
and you know what's a blind spot of mine?
This is crazy.
Sleepless in Seattle.
It's unacceptable.
So good.
You know, it's, it might not.
Her response is, you know?
No, no.
It's just because I feel like I'm older.
So it just, it makes me feel like that was such a part of my zeitgeist of like, it was even, it was even old for me.
Like I was too young for it.
Right. It was a little, it was a little before our time slightly.
And it's hard.
It's a hard sell now just because like the leads are never in the same scene.
Also, I don't know if you guys have noticed this about 90s movies, but there's a lot of commonality or like a common theme is like stalking.
Right.
Like there's all, all these people who are like, it's so romantic that they show up.
No, say anything.
It's like, get out of there.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Basically stalking this girl.
And the girl is like, oh, my gosh, he loves me.
Yeah.
And it's like, you're in trouble.
Yes, you're trouble.
We call that love bombing.
Love bombing.
There was a lot of that in 90s movies for sure.
No, totally.
But I mean, you put it, you put it all, you put the film gloss on it and it's great.
You know what though?
In a movie, in a movie, you're only seeing the beginning of the love bombing, which is so good.
You know what I mean?
So in a movie where it ends with them kissing.
They're just manic and you don't see the next movie, which is like a full crash.
But we don't want to see the crash.
No.
No.
No.
It's, we know.
We know where it's going.
But also like 90s movies, they didn't care.
Yeah.
They didn't care at all.
Like how to lose a guy in 10 days.
The fact that they kiss at the end of that and it's like euphoric, I'm like, wow, you guys are going to be both in, like, impatient.
Like you're both headed there.
Like, you're both nuts.
In a straight jacket.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Kate and Leopold, too, was like, I think, the last man.
Oh, yes.
That was, like, one of the births of Hugh Jackman.
Yes.
One of Hugh Jackson's first roles, but it was just, like, another, like, innovation.
Well, and then that trend kind of caught on those types of movies.
Yeah.
About, like, wasn't he just coming back from, isn't he, like, in the past?
He's in the past.
He's some sort of colonial.
Yes.
No, no, he's a prince.
He's a prince.
Well, it was that.
Colonial.
Colonial.
He's old in time.
He's old in time.
But I love a time.
time travely thing because
Lakehouse also did that with Sandra Bollock. I loved
Lakehouse. I loved everything Sandra Bullock was into. She's
Queens. She was her like slightly
more sarcastic cousin. That's right. Yeah. A little darker.
Did you guys ever see that movie with Ben Affleck and Sandra Bollick? It was called like
Forces of Nature. Forces of Nature and she's so hot in that
she's incredibly hot. I mean when she comes out in Miss Congeniality
after she's had after they put her through the like car wash or whatever the fuck
Like, it just is so good.
She looks unbelievable.
Like, aviators.
Yeah.
And, like, it's, it's, like, dressed like blue.
Yeah, it's like sort of like a weird.
It's like a lavender.
It's a shimmery blue.
Oh, yeah.
And it's sort of that stretching material that is not used for clothes.
Right.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, like, dog toys have that same material.
Bring it back.
I could chew on both.
Yeah.
Break it back.
There's, there's a dog theme that's strung through this episode.
Are you a dog person?
Oh, I love. My dog is my everything. Describe the dog.
Very cute, ugly. Like more, yeah, it's like she's sort of has eyes that go different directions.
And so that makes her really cute, but her personality is just the best. She's a rescue. She's five pounds.
Oh, she's five pounds. She would sit right here and she'd sit the whole time. She wouldn't move.
She's just the most chill. We balance each other out. Is it just the one dog?
Just the one dog. Yeah. You can't really have like another dog when the one dog is that special.
She takes, she goes everywhere.
She's a set dog.
She was the mascot of the hunting wives.
She was with us all the time.
Every day on set.
There was even a scene at the Jed's mansion where she was like going to be in the background
and then she heard me yelling at one point and then she started barking.
So we had to throw out of the scene.
Wait, what's her name?
Charlie.
Charlie.
Spelled like Charlie X, X, X or regular?
No, Charlie with a E.
Yeah.
Unfortunately, I know.
We can't all win.
Can't win a mom.
She doesn't have a hot girl summer or like,
anything that related. No. It's fine. It's okay. She's chilling. She's a dog. Yeah.
Dog. It's fine. Is Meg Ryan doing it? Like, is she? Because I remember there was a comeback
rumor or something. I think she's directing now. She's directing. She's done some roles, I think.
Yeah. We're friends with Jack. Jack's the best. Her son. Yes, of course.
Who has all the star quality of his parents combined. Yeah. He's so effortless. Really, truly.
I know. Do you know him? I don't actually.
You should.
You should do something together.
Yeah, we'll get on that.
We'll get on that.
We'll produce.
We'll produce.
Lost coaches, we're going to be producers.
We're going to be producers.
We're going to produce our way into Hunting Life Season 2.
You already did, and I love it.
I think it's a good idea.
But now that, now that, I don't know.
What?
I kind of did the whole episode in my mind already.
That was my anxious thought.
I thought of it and then finished it.
What is Sophie doing during this time?
I think she's not in that one, boo.
No, we need a Sophie scene.
You can direct that episode.
You have any interest in directing?
I directed a movie a couple years ago.
You did?
Yeah.
What?
We're so sorry that we just can pass it.
You guys have done enough on the Britney Snow world.
No, I mean, like...
We're not real Snowbunys if we don't know about your directorial debut.
I know you went to Gather High School.
That's crazy.
Yes, Gatheer High School.
It's on Wikipedia.
That's true.
There's a lot on Wikipedia.
That's not true, though.
Well, you're a Piscese's like me.
I am a Pisces.
Oh, you're Pisces.
Do you identify with...
He's a Scorpio.
This is very good.
This is a...
very good day.
Oh,
you just leered at me.
You don't like that.
No, I love.
We love.
I love Scorpios.
Okay, good.
Water signs.
I just didn't realize
that you were a Scorpio.
No, he's the Scorpio.
He doesn't suffer fools.
It's not that.
You know what I identify most now recently as a Scorpio?
And this is going to sound so like eye roll because it's like it's about what people do to me.
But it's a lot of people project stuff on the Scorpios.
Like you don't want.
Or they think they project things about.
me.
He's right.
They do this.
They'll assume things about me
that are just obviously informed
by like what the person is thinking.
Whatever.
We don't have to get into it.
Well, that's what people do for Pisces too.
They just assume that I'm sensitive
and emotional and about to cry.
They're right.
I'm literally same.
I'm a Piscese too.
March 5th is my birthday.
March 9th.
Do you have a joint birthday party one year?
Maybe we should.
March 7th, huge day for us.
Oh, yeah.
Two days after mine.
Two days before yours.
Just saying.
Pretty cool.
You know who's blowing me up right now and I don't know why Jared Frieder?
You know Jared.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
And that's how, wait, because of Liz, Jared and Liz are so close.
And that was the Muna concert.
Yes, because you were in someone great.
I was in someone great.
Yes, which is another classic.
And that's how I met you is because of Jen.
It's because of Jen.
Jen and Kate and Robinson.
And then Liz Elver and Lee went to my high school.
Yeah, they went to high school together.
And was good for my sister.
Liz was best friends with his sister Yang.
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
Wait, that's crazy.
I didn't know how that all came to be with them.
makes sense. No, yeah. So you're a
Munafam. Of course.
It's kind of burr. It's kind of a
it's kind of lesbian of you to be in hunting wives
and be a moon of fan. You're projecting things on to
us, the Pisces. Yep. We're used to it. Yeah, well. And they're always
right. Yeah, they are. No. I am going to cry. I'm crying
right now. I almost did during my
performance as Chrissy Mears. You did. You did. I saw that.
And you see, he went more to anger. Of course.
Of course.
I love that.
It's just kind of, it's where we go.
What?
No, nothing.
I'm sighing because,
speaking of,
just,
I'm thinking of Britney Snow crying and,
and,
and that makes you cry?
No,
it makes me,
you're so good at it.
It makes me,
I'm filled with awe
because in the previously
on Hunting Wives clips,
they would always constantly play
the clip of Sovi going,
she died.
Like, it's,
we actually,
do you know what I'm talking about?
We were doing,
we were doing a contest about who could do the best,
um,
she died.
No, stop it.
What is that from?
It's from when Sophie tell...
When you say the story of the first accident.
Of the accident.
Oh, my God.
When I'm in the green dress.
Yeah.
And I...
Oh, my God.
When you're at the lodge...
Yes, I know we were talking about now.
And you're telling other women about the accident.
And literally, like, it was just...
The reason why we were doing it is because they were showing it in the previouslies a lot.
I'm constantly.
I'm not proud of that performance.
No.
No.
Oh, we're telling you, it was so good.
Sorry.
It's just because I, at that moment, I didn't realize that it, like, cuts to Katie.
And she's like, oh, my God, you know, like, I could have, like, done so many different things.
But you're right.
I was like.
No, it was perfect.
No.
But you're right.
I feel like.
You can't watch playback.
No, I can't.
No.
But also, like, I get what you're saying.
It was, like, a strange, it was like a strange thing to have constantly go.
back and we had to remember. I love the previously. Can I say previously is one of my
favorite parts of a whole episode. You know, sometimes when I, when I think to, when I wasn't
working and I was thinking to myself like, one day I'll be on a TV show and I would say to myself like
previously. Yeah. You know, it's like so cool to say it. Did you do the voiceover? Did you
do it? Yeah. Yes. So, you're like, wow. I'm really on a TV show now. I got to say previously.
No, I've never said previously. No, I've never said previously. You will. You can. I did get to say in a
Secret Deodorant Commercial, Wicked for Good in Theaters November 21st.
That felt cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sorry.
That just sounds like a brag.
I'm sorry.
No.
But Wicked for Good is in Theaters November 21st.
Oh, don't you know.
I know it.
Yes.
Wait, I need to ask because you alluded to this earlier.
So you think you could have done the she died scene better.
But you had other moments.
You said there were other moments throughout the season where you were like, I could have done
that better.
Would you like to put those out there now?
I think I always think I can do better.
It really, it bothers me because I'm pretty hard on myself.
And I always watch, when I watch things back, I'm like, I could have done better.
Or you're like, I did it better.
And that wasn't the take.
100%.
Literally always.
Always.
Always.
And that's why.
How do I use that one?
I know.
I always think that.
But then I just keep reminding myself, like, it's because it was better holistically.
I have to trust the experts here.
Also, maybe the one I'm thinking wasn't the one.
Maybe it would have looked odd after her line.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's, but I have the same thing where I'm like that out track.
Well, to go back to the fact that I have directed before, I directed my own movie that I wrote and I have been on that side where I had to edit and I was in the editing room for four months.
And I do know that that thought, which does come into play when I watch myself of like I've been on the other side where the best take isn't always the one you're going to be able to use because her hair was on the wrong side or there was something that we couldn't get out of the frame or whatever it is.
you know, a lighting thing or, or just little minute things that you're not thinking of.
And so I do take that into consideration, although it does suck.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Whenever you don't know.
Is that a Pisces thing?
We're not really controlling.
That's not even a controlled thing.
Just sensitive.
Yeah, it's a sensitivity thing.
Yeah.
It's like, oh, I want people to think I did the scene really good.
Yeah.
And maybe that's the controlling of it is that I know that I can do better.
And so there's this sort of like sensitivity to, to, I guess that's controlling.
Yeah.
It's a sensitivity to just emotion.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the Pisces thing.
Yeah.
You can, you can like, you're getting a read on like these micro moments or something in your.
Yeah, sensitivity based on emotional portrayal.
Lots of Pisces there.
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know what's creative and we are in control of.
I don't think so, honies.
It's time for the segment.
So this is our 60 second segment where we take just exactly that amount of time to rip something in culture apart.
You have been thinking about it.
So we heard your two.
We told you we weighed in.
We said we think one is the one.
We're going to go first and you can ruminate on it.
Okay.
Okay.
I have one.
I've been moving apartments in L.A.
And I have one.
Okay.
this is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many. His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey, dust. I just found out you're mostly my own skin.
I don't think so, honey. Almost 50% of all that in the corner, bitch, that's your own skin.
Those are your dead cells. I'll say it again. Dead cells all up in the dust. When you go to a corner, it's horrible.
Any room you're in right now go to the corner. It's terrible. I'm telling you. You need to call the cleaner.
Please let this be
Not just that I don't think so honey
It's a reminder you need to clean
Or call the cleaner
Get someone or you yourself
Get the supplies
The dust is you
You are all about it's like
Soylent Green up in here
I'm telling you
It's really bad and bitch
I have to tell you about your air filter
It's so bad
It is so bad
Get the dust out of there
You're gonna die
If you suck in this dust you're gonna die
I'm telling you
Then talk about dust mites
Don't try to give it a cute name you bitch
I don't think so honey this.
You are not going to call it a dust mite.
A dust bunny, it's an insult to bunnies.
I don't think so, honey.
It's my own skin.
It's not a bunny which I want to pet.
It's my skin which I either want to keep or never see again.
I don't think so, honey.
And that's one minute.
The only bunnies we want snow bunnies.
I am terrified.
Why?
Because that was so great.
Yes.
And also, you, like I'm going home to immediately start dusting.
No, you got it.
You got, I'm telling you have to.
No, but I bought.
an old house and it's really dusty. I know, especially, and that's also the thing about the
unfortunate drawback to like, oh, this house gets great light. It's going to get amazing dust.
Get two air purifiers. Yeah. Oh, no, I've got two. One upstairs, one down to.
British style has two. Yes. The dust bunnies are, you know, not a part of the club and they're
everywhere. Everywhere. And I'm telling you the one great thing, I'm so happy to be leaving
my apartment in L.A. and going somewhere else. It got so much dust like two days after. I don't
no, it's something about it, but it's terrible.
And, like, I found a lot of it hiding in one place,
and I just couldn't believe how big the ball was.
This is really nasty.
Well, you can take a picture?
I didn't.
I didn't because Melissa was freaking out.
She was like, stop touching it!
It was really, we were, like, kind of playing with the dust.
We were high.
It's the dryness.
It's the dryness in a way.
Yeah, it was not good.
But anyways, we're happy.
Moving to Studio City.
to be closer to Jared actually
my bestie
Oh my god
I didn't know that
Oh yeah
We dated for a year
Hot
Very cute
At the time very much so
Yeah
Better as friends though
I get that
Yeah
Not because of him
Just because I've been in that situation
Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Sometimes you're just better as friends
All right
What do you think
I don't think
I have something
Okay
It's also another like house thing
But I think it's really important
Work okay
So this is Bowen-Yangs.
I don't think so, honey.
His time starts now.
I don't think so, honey, light switches, you have to press.
Give me an actual rocking mechanism.
I don't care if it's the little nub.
I don't care if it's the full.
You want to flick.
I want to flick because guess what these dimmers do?
They go slow.
They take their time.
And sometimes I need it to be lights out like that.
And most of the time with these,
pressed light switches, you go to hotel. Oh, isn't this nice?
30 seconds. Wait a minute. The light switches are
nonsensical. I'm pressing a button and I got
I got to count 10 clock ticks for this to fully go black.
15 seconds. I'm trying to go to bed.
Meanwhile, I'm standing at the threshold between the closet and the bathroom
waiting for the light to go down.
So that I, before I can tuck myself in, honey, there's no time.
I'm busy.
That's one minute.
You know, I've done one very similar about when you go to a hotel.
Like, if you ever spring on like a nice hotel, you can't use one thing.
It's impossible to use.
You want to turn on the TV?
You can't.
You can't.
Because the remote's something from outer space.
Do you want to turn on the light in your bathroom?
You can't.
And my classic thing, hotel trash cans.
Fat chance.
Fat chance.
It's tiny.
It's a little canister.
They're getting worse.
Soon it's going to be a button all the way over there to open the trash can over here.
Don't even talk to me about a button that says all.
Liars.
Liars.
I hate that.
Why do you, like, I press all and everything goes black.
I can never find the button again.
Everything is...
You have to run to the bed.
You have to run to the bed.
You're definitely going to fall over.
You're tripping over something.
You'll be killed.
Definitely.
I have killed by all light.
I'm telling you, like, they make it so difficult.
Like, my parents are in Greece right now.
Oh, my God.
It's now?
Yeah, they're in Greece.
their second time ever leaving the country.
And I was like, I wanted them to go
into like have a nice trip and go in nice hotels.
And then after I sent them, I was like, oh, no.
Are they going to know how to like turn on the coffee thing?
Because it's fucking Rubik's Cube.
Oh.
Like it is crazy to turn on a light.
Toilets, you know, they have those fancy bidetes like in the toilet.
Oh, no.
You'll be there for 45 minutes trying to figure it out.
And then when you do, you'll never leave.
But sometimes I get to them some of those bidets and I'm like,
I'm not leaving.
Oh, no, no, no.
No, I know you in a good day.
I'm getting a blood clot.
I'm staying.
Oh, my.
Britney Snow.
Okay.
Okay, are you ready?
I think so.
This is...
What a sentence.
Oh, my God.
Thank you so much for coming.
I am having the best time.
Me too.
I don't want to leave.
Okay.
This is a...
It's getting bidet.
I have a date with the other blonde.
Oh, this is Britney Snow's.
I don't think so, honey.
And her time starts.
I don't think so, honey.
Okay, hospital shows.
Wow.
Let me tell you something.
People, I know some people, that it is their comfort to, after a long day, you're working traffic.
You're a person that's got kids.
You're taking care of old people.
And then you go home at the end of the night and you want to curl up with a nice glass of tea and a blanket.
And you're going to put on the most high stakes drama of people dying who actually really die in real life.
These are real stories that happen.
And then now your comfort show.
Grey's Anatomy, the pit.
Also, Noah Wiley, call me, I will do season three.
I love him.
Also, no Wiley, side note, is a doctor.
If I was on a plane and there was somebody that, like,
if I was going down and there was like,
is there a doctor in the plane?
And there was another doctor and then there was no Wiley.
I would pick him.
He knows everything.
Of course.
But that's not the point.
The point is, I don't think that these shows are good things to watch
because they don't give anybody comfort.
I don't want to go to a hospital.
Does anybody like going to the hospital?
Why am I willingly going to the hospital when I'm in bed?
thousands. I'm sorry, keep going.
But like, do you like going to the hospital?
When I'm visiting people in the hospital, I want to get the fuck out of there.
And then now we are willingly putting ourselves into the hospital.
And it's like dramatic?
I don't think so, honey.
That's one minute.
That was perfect.
Oh my God.
Quickly done.
For Britney Snow, everybody.
Really good.
And also, this is speaking to something in the culture that needs to be addressed, which is
why do we like these things?
It's just, it's literal pain, blood, and more.
And I will say something.
what is the thing with like people being like wow now I really know what that experience is like
it's like why did anyone need to know what they go through I get it I personally for me I get it
being in a hospital working in like an emergency room it sounds awful not for entertainment but
let me just say to play the devil's advocate to my own I don't think so honey I do think that it's
highlighting people in those roles that have the worst, the most horrible hard jobs.
I don't give one fuck about actors who are like, oh my God, I'm so tired.
I hate my job.
It's like, no, you go to a hospital and those people are allowed to complain about being tired
because they're saving lives.
But then also, yes, we're highlighting those jobs.
But at the same time, I don't want to have any enjoyment in that or comfort in the fact
that you just saved a child from like their arm getting cut off or whatever.
Like, that to me is not something that I find to make me like, ready for bed now.
Right.
He loves the pit.
And we are noted Grey's Anatomy stands, but I don't even know if I could rewatch it because now as an adult, I'm super sensitive to pain.
To pain.
Like human pain.
Did you ever do a hospital show?
No one has ever thought that I could play a doctor.
But did not?
Were you on Grace Anatomy?
No.
Why am I creating that you were like a patient on Grey's Anatomy?
I was a bipolar girl who killed someone on SVU.
That's why.
Yeah.
Pretty, which is the exchange rate is you were a doctor on a hospital procedural.
No, I can't do the language, like the wording of, no.
Oh.
I actually wrote a Grace Anatomy spec script in college, and it's just all the hospital jargon.
I was just going to put in the dialogue, like in parentheses, like hospital jargon here.
And the doctor was like, I know, but my teacher was like, no, just write it.
And I was like, I need 10 C and C's of penicillin.
And it's like, what is that?
But the writer, the actual writers on Gray's just go, just go medical, medical, medical, like, brackets, medical, medical, medical medical.
So legitimately that's, and then they have consultants going to.
As an actor, that is my nightmare that I have is that I show up to do Gray's anatomy or whatever.
And they're like, you got the medical jargon, right?
They know, it just came in last night and you're like, what medical jargon?
And they're like, the paragraph of medical jargon that you don't know, that is an actual nightmare that I have on
the regular. Amazing. Specific
actor dream. Specific, very
like that is so specific to just
actors. It's like, what if I show up to
Grace Anatomy and I don't know the medical jargon?
Humiliating. And I'm
nude. I'm agreeing with everything you're
saying, Brittany. When you
asked who likes going to the hospital,
this is, this is, I'm going to say a
Canadian thing,
which is when you have
socialized medicine.
Especially if you're a kid growing up in Canada like
like I was.
I broke my arm.
twice growing up in Montreal, going to the children's hospital was the funest time.
Yeah, he broke his arm twice because he could go back.
Well, we're talking about a different medical system.
But like the children's hospital in Montreal was a happy place.
A happy place. The walls were colorful. There's play places, books everywhere.
And they were fixing your arm.
And they were fixing your arm. And the doctors were so nice and so happy.
The nurses were.
Was that Noah Wiley there?
There was a Noah Wiley-esque man, pediatrician. I mean, come on.
I think the, I think the appeal of the pit is you're watching Noah Wiley be Noah Wiley.
Oh, definitely.
And there's nothing better.
God and he just
I mean did you see him at the party
during the Emmys? He and his wife
the most gorgeous couple. Just the most gorgeous and so in love
they were the bells of the ball and I love that for them.
It was the pit and hunting wives.
Too vastly different
experience. I want that crossover bad.
I want that crossover bad. Me and Mullen are like 500
C Cs, baby. Yeah, like 100%.
Baby, let me get that scalpel baby.
Yeah. Come on.
Whenever I do that, I don't know. Something happens.
Burp.
Wait, this is this is this is
My Mullen, ready?
Yeah.
Offer me a tampon.
I don't know.
I think I have a tampon.
Oh, I can't use that.
That's pretty good.
Oh, I can't use that.
Oh, I can't use that.
Wait, okay, before we go.
Yes?
You guys both told me that you had like questions about the show because you were like,
if this person does that and that person is that and that guy, it was, yeah, what are the questions?
Okay.
My question is, how will Sophie,
with what she's done.
How will she get out of this one?
I have theories that are completely not based in any facts.
But let's hear him.
Because we're all pitching.
Because I don't know.
I don't know this to be true at all.
But I do think that this puts them on an even playing field.
And I do think that she's smarter than people think she is.
And I would like to see her having done stuff already to like lay the groundwork for like,
she's got some shit on Margot that she could drop, you know, on the drop of a hat.
and turn everything around if if margot figures out that she killed kyle but i think no one's
going to figure out about kyle for a long time wow but they will at some point for a reason
i think she took the phone for a reason you don't think that malin knew it was her at the end
i think she did i don't think so i'm not sure okay we played it both ways it's funny how it went
in the show but they did tell me to take the phone for a reason yeah yeah yeah there is so many ways
art to interpret the show.
Absolutely.
As I'm an example of.
I'm telling you, like, it, we were in P-Town, like, ostensibly a lot of fun things to do there.
No.
All we wanted to do was be in the house watching the show.
It was the highlight of every moment of the trip was watching the show.
And the Dune's Tour was good.
Dune's Tour was good, but we didn't really go out.
I liked that one, I liked the Red Inn, too.
Red In is fine.
We had good cocktails there.
But other than that, it was the Hunting Wives.
You?
I am just so honored by that, truly.
Thank you for, that was my one week off the entire summer.
Thank you for, no, I really, no, but thank you.
Oh, my God.
I'm glad.
We spent it with you.
We spent it with you.
We did all together.
Yes.
We escaped.
And you have two shows coming out.
I do.
Two shows.
One on Hulu.
That's called Murdoch, Death in the Family.
And I play Mandy Matney, who is the real reporter that the podcast, Murdoch murders, her character.
she's the person that sort of like spearheaded the whole fight to get this guy,
Alec Murdoch behind bars and and figure out what was happening with that story.
So she is a badass.
So she sort of comes in and it's like,
we have to get the truth.
We have to get the truth.
Yeah.
And she was the first person to actually kind of sense that this was a bigger story at play,
that it wasn't just this guy who was up to no good.
There was something that was way, way more insidious with the story.
And she just followed that lead and nobody took it seriously.
And so as it was happening, she was the one that was sort of the person that knew before anyone else
and was really sort of this gnat in their family in terms of like making sure that the story is broke,
that somebody was always watching them, that the story was actually getting told.
And so, yeah, it was up to her that this all happened.
Wow.
And hospital shows are too gruesome for you.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, you're out here with all this murder.
Well, I know.
There's so much murder in all your shows.
I know.
I've been really murder lately.
What about that message to the kids?
I'm sorry.
Who love you.
The kids love you.
You're in every murder show on television.
I will be in more also.
Well, hear that kids.
Is the second show a murder show?
It is.
There you go.
It's called The Beast in Me.
It's called The Beast and Me?
What are the kids?
They are there.
The kids out there.
They're there.
Not everything I do is for the children.
Yeah, that's fair.
No, you are feeding the children.
Yes, gay guys speak.
Yes, gay guys speak.
Thank you.
Yes, it's really good.
When you feed the children, that's good.
I figured.
Burr?
Beast and me.
Beast and me is there are no children in the beast in me.
But it is about also murder.
My husband is being...
Murdered?
No.
No.
He might have murdered his ex-wife, and I'm the new wife.
But it's sort of like the jinx in the way of like he's sort of this tycoon and billionaire.
and you don't really know what's going on
in terms of his murder past
because he might not have murdered her at all.
Not everyone in the show is as they seem
because Claire Daines,
she plays this writer that's doing a book
on Matthew Reese, my husband.
I know.
Oh, wait, Matthew Reese and Claire Daines?
Yes.
So it's going to be a phenomenon.
It is the same people who did Homeland.
Oh, stop.
We're familiar.
Claire Dane is going back with Homeland people.
Yeah.
Oh, this is too much.
And I'm there too.
I know.
Who would have thought.
This is crazed.
It's going to be very cool.
We met her at S&L 50.
She's, she listens to us somehow.
I don't, that was too much.
It was too much.
She's so fucking cool.
She's the best.
Best actor ever.
She's the best actor.
She's the best person.
Her and Matthew Reese are truly, I mean, I loved working on that show every day because of how
they conducted themselves on set.
And then we all became friends.
And I was just like, I love when people are that good at what they do and they're also
that good in real life as people.
Claire just wanted to hang out
She just wanted to know things about me
And she really listens
She's just
Rad
The best
She's just so rad
This was so fun
We're obsessed with you
We love you
We love you
We have to hang out with you
I have to hang out with you
When they said
That they spent so much time
With you at the Emmys
Like you and all my friends
I was just like
I have to be there
But now we're gonna do something
We're doing it
We're going to hang out
We're gonna be like real real friends
Catch us in the streets
In the streets
All right
Okay ready
Yeah
We had never heard of it with the song.
I'm trying to think what's the song?
The new girl in town.
I wish I knew the words.
I can hear the...
If you want to hear that and more,
listen to the hairspray original past soundtrack.
Bye.
Bye.
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