Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Elevated Messy" (w/ Rachel Sennott)

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

This is THEE elevated messy episode of Las Cultch! Rachel Sennott joins the sisters to get right into it. From poppers initiation, addiction, and recovery to having things just to hold, suck on and play with. They talk about how I Love LA's characters are just representations of Rachel's own friends in her twenties and also break down the origins of Rachel's revolutionary "Come on! It's L.A.!" video. Plus thoughts on Bowen missing the Sweat Tour and perfecting a Charli XCX impression. Not to mention a walk down memory lane for Bowen and Rachel: they announced the Oscar nominations together and slayed the pronunciation of Emilia Peréz! There's discussion on how it's easier to cry around old friends along with discourse around why peeing and sneezing feels so good. And some IDTSH's on ASMR, touch screen vs. pushing buttons, and getting honest on the J. And a deep analysis of different styles of bad driving and how everyone should just get off the road!!! Watch I Love LA on HBO and stream it on HBO Max. And The Chair Company too, by the way! Sundays on HBO are BACK.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That nobody knew who I was and they were like, why do we have to say hello to this guy? Recently on the Good Stuff podcast, we sat down with our friend Bradley Cooper to talk about his deep friendship with host Jacob. He was there when I found out that I was going to have a baby. And how they've been there for each other through the hard times. And I was able to sort of walk Jacob through some stuff. I leaned on you real heavy. I think times that you knew and times you didn't know.

Listen to the Good Stuff Podcasts on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, hey, hey, or should I say, ho, ho, ho. It's me, Matt Rogers, and in the words of another Christmas icon, it's time. I'm back with my new nationwide tour, Matt Rogers, Christmas in December. Yes, it's time to remember when Christmas is. I'm hit in the road all of December with Henry Kaperski and the whole band performing my album. Have you heard of Christmas, along with a bunch of other little surprises? So if you're in L.A., San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Philadelphia, D.C., New York City, Boston, Toronto, Chicago, or, yes, Orlando, Florida.

I want to see your gorgeous ass. Go to Matt Rogers official.com or head to my Instagram at Matt Rogers, though, and hit the link in my bio. Until then, stream the album, get your look together, and get ready to deck the damn whole. halls at a venue near you. Christmas in December, you in my heart. X-O-X-O-Santa boy. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. Wow.

Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, goodness. Wow. Las cultureistas. Ding-da. Lost cultureistas calling. We have reconnected with someone from, I'm going to say past, present, and future. Four-dimensional tapestry of talent, Beauty, brains, all of impact.

This pitch. This bitch. This bitch right here. We're proud of this girl. And we've known her when. So basically we were discussing before the episode began a moment kind of in history. Yes. If you would go back with us to I guess like 2018.

2019, I think. 2018, 2019 around there. It was the bell house. I don't think so, honey. And this was a time when we would like corral like 50 people. people together. Bowen and I would sit on stage. We would do, I don't think so honey, live. Five people would come up. They would do, I don't think so honey. After I don't think so honey, they'd filter it out. We'd call it like gay Bonaroo. Gay Bonaroo. Now we would call it

gay kill Tony or something. Yeah, now there's like the references would change. But like, we would like be before the show like saying hello to every single person that we had booked. And we were so excited because Rachel Sennett was coming on the show, who may be the guest on this episode. You'll have to find out in like a minute. A minute and a half. But I remember going over and you only have so much time to say hello to everyone because it's 50 people. And I'm just like saying, hi, hi, hi, hi. And then I see Rachel and I go, hi.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Because she's sobbing. She says, this is one of the worst days of my life. And we'll get into Y. She's like, I'm so excited to be here. This is one of the worst days of my life. And we'll get into Y on this episode starring I Love L.A.

Creator. EP, star, et cetera. All the sort of titles, this one holds. This is one of, I would imagine, I'm not going to speak on your behalf, but one of the best weeks of your life. And it's only getting better from here. We'll bring her in.

She can confirm her to deny. This is. Is it all it seems? Former guests of the show, but this is our first time in person with her. Which feels so insane, wild and more. Everyone, please. Let's go.

Let's go. Welcome. Rachel Settett! Oh my God, thank God, you guys. Clink, clank, clank, clank. And it's all the kinds of Diet Coke. We have the ones in the can. We have the ones in the bottle.

I wish I had canned, but of course I went bottle because that was what was available at the bodega. But I was like, I'm straying it. I'm straying it and it's totally fine. Straw it. Now, tell us what was so fucked about that day. Oh, my God. So the other thing that's crazy is it's like,

At that time, I was such a disaster. I was going through, it was a tumultuous time. Yeah. You know, 23. Yeah. And in my head, I was like, no one else knows that this is tumultuous for me. I thought to what I was presenting on the outside was like normal, grounded, headed together. And now it's like I see people who have known me.

Yes. And they're like, you've really matured. you wow you've really like you know you feel you're a lot more grounded and is that offensive? No yes I think it's like it's good because now looking back I'm like that was really scary

not only was I crying I was like ripping poppers in the back room I was addicted to poppers and I was just sitting in the back room open sobbing people were coming in and out I remember like Sydney Washington coming over and being like it's okay love all right get it together

get it together get it together Get it together before this couple. Because you got to go on stage and rip a minute. So rip a minute. Just wait. Rip a minute. Then rip a popper. And then we'll put you in the Uber home.

Let's go. Wow. See, that's community care because Matt was saying it was like, it was 50 people in the community just descending on you to show support. But also they were like, but we also have to get ready for a bit. But you do what we do have to do our bits. We do have to do our best. So please get it together, do your bit.

And then either go home or just, you know, keep the crying to a minimum. But it was like three days after, and I was, I was raw. Raw. I was really, really raw. And my, I don't think so, honey was, I don't think so honey breakups. Yeah. And say that. And I did it with tears in my eyes and poppers in my throat.

I was like, I would, yeah, that's how deep they were going. Oh, yeah, no, they were getting hot. It was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. How did the pot, what was the first hit? Who was your fucking Sherpa? So this is what happened is basically I did, it was around my birthday.

Yeah. And this is also around the time. No, one year before was when I accosted you guys. Yeah. Yeah. And because we all had raw vulnerable moments. We all, and that's again what the community is for. That's why we have each other's backs because we saw each other at the highest in the low.

100% tears everywhere. I walk and I go family because you've seen it all. Thank God. But basically it was like I had a small birthday party or whatever. A couple days before the breakup. And Moss, Perricone, who we know and we love, genius writer, writing at S&L, a couple buildings away. Let's go. I'm going to go say hi later today.

We must. Um, Moss was like, I just heard about Poppers. To get, by the way, to get introduced to Boppers by a straight man, come on. It's one of our best straights. One of our best straight men. Very of that time. Very of that time. Very of that time.

Because things were mixing. It was like, everyone was a little bit queer. Everyone was dabbling into each other. We were going, what if you got going on over there? Yeah. And the answer was Poppers. Let me sniff it. So Moss was like, I just did Poppers one time.

We should buy them and like do them once tonight on. your birthday for fun. Okay. Oh, no. Huge mistake. Oh, God. He brings the poppers to the party. We all do poppers, whatever.

I'm like, that's kind of fun. Yeah. Then the next day, do the breakup. Yep. Oh, do the breakup. Do the breakup. And I immediately fall apart and I start looking for something. Something.

I go, what's here? At this point, I'm living with my dad in Hell's Kitchen. Me and my dad are roommates in Health's Kitchen. And Health's Kitchen is what? the capital of poppers. Capital of Popper. It's actually real culture number 26. Hell's Kitchen is what?

The capital of Poppers. You can get them anywhere. You can get them at the pet store. For $4. Yeah. Not bad. For $4. And by the way,

impossible to get in L.A. Something New York has over L.A. This is really true. And I know a spot. I know a place, Muna, where you can get them. And I'll tell you after. Although I don't think it would be good for you.

I don't know. I've moved on. I've moved on. You're in recovery. You've really mature. I've matured. But I will stay when I'm, my first move to L.A., I went to get poppers somewhere, and I had to drive to, like,

four places. And I was like, I ended up in, like, a sex shop at, like, two in the morning. And they were like, we have one bottle. It left. It was like, it was crazy. It was crazy. So I, so, okay, I'm searching, I'm searching through my dad's apartment. It's like, there's nothing there except for the poppers. Boom, I just start, I just start taking them. And I'm taking them, like, in the morning. I'm taking them like 10 times a day. I do think there's a piece of my brain missing from that time. It's like I'm taking them raw.

I remember Catherine Cohen. Yes. We went to like breakfast the next day because she was being an amazing friend. She was being there for me. And I was like ripping poppers at Cafe Clooney. And she was like, my love, you got to stop. My love. You got to put those down.

Save it for right after. She also poured me a glass of vodka and watered it down at like 10 minutes. I love Catherine. I literally can picture this. I can see the coat she's wearing. Yes. We know the coat. We know the coat.

It's fabulous. And so then it was just, from there, I just had them on me. And that was like my, I was just like, I can always do a popper in five minutes. Sure. And can I ask, what was the feeling? Were you chasing a feeling? Or was it just the, like, the pacifier? Like, let me just do my thing.

It was a little pacifier. I'm total pacifier girl. Of course. It's like, I need a. pacifier at any moment right now. How many vapes on set on any given day on the set of I Love L.A.? You know what was crazy is they gave

us fake vapes. Non-nicotine vapes. And then we all started doing, and I was like it's really just about having a butt pot. Yeah, it's the placebo. It's a toy. It's like a, yep. I just want something to hold and suck on and play. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It is getting a little weird. Don't we all. Don't we all. And, but, so then I just had them. I think what it was is that when I would take the paupers, I would start laughing so hard, and then I would start crying. Yeah. And it was sort of my entryway into crying. Wow.

Okay, so you were able to access. I was able to access how I was feeling. Oh, did you lose that access once you got off the poppers? You know what's crazy is, no, I didn't, but I entered a period of my life. I would say the mid-20s, I was like, I'm healed. Yeah. Yes. I'm so healed.

I, because it was COVID. Right. I moved to L.A. and I was like, I became like a hermit, honestly. Yeah, well, yes. I went all the other way. I was just like, I'm like barely drinking. I'm not doing anything else.

Poppers on the east side, west side highway. No, none of that. I'm like, I'm very locked in. Locked in. And I think it was almost like I overcorrected. Do you know what I mean? And then came this out on return. Of course.

Damn it. Which is when you ran into us. on the street, by the way. Which is, oh my God. Wait, no, you guys on the street, this, I'm backpedaling. Let's go. We need to back up. Okay. This is, this is still Messierre. This is probably like the year before my full crashout.

This is like 2017. Yes, yes. And I'm having a birthday, is my birthday, and I was on Cat Show. Yes. I'm like, yes, birthday. I come out of their wasted. Yeah. I see Matt and Bowen outside on the street.

I don't realize they're having a deep discussion that involves, a tearful discussion. Was this at Union Hall? I think it was at Club Coming. I think it was the Club Coming show. Okay, okay. So if it was 2017 Club Coming, it was one thing. If it was 2018 Club Coming, Union Hall, it was another thing. Because I can remember two times.

But 2018 Club Coming also sounds viable. It sounds all like what's on the realm. I'm willing to bet it was about. both of us going through the S&L audition process and only one of us getting hired. That's my suspicion. It might not be correct. Saying it's about that,

I feel like makes it seem like I was heartbroken about not getting the job. There's so many emotional things within that, like in the friendship that it could have been about. But so I'll just say that. It wasn't like me stop being like,

you got S&L and I did it. I don't mean to misrepresent that. The vibe was literally like sweet, beautiful moment between friends talking through something. have those. It was, I need those. Do you know what I mean?

And you came over like, let's go! Yeah, I literally was like, it's my birthday. How awesome was the show? Who wants to do shots? You guys both turned to me tears in your eyes. And you're like, could we just have a minute? Just one minute.

Because the fact is we do want to do shots. We do. No, it was just like my vibe was so insane. And you guys were like, it was like, I was interrupting like a beautiful. moment. That was the vibe was it was like a beautiful moment of you guys connecting talking through something and me

being like, shats, bitches. One or two, let's go. Get inside. I love this girl, too. I love this girl though. I think she's obviously still there. She's in the show. She's Maya. There's a throwaway reference to like, remember when Maya was addicted to when I talked that Jordan saying that to you

in the show like Maya, this is like when you were addicted to poppers. I was like, I was there for that. You were like, yep. Well, I remember. Well, so basically, okay, so because what I tried to do with the characters is because, like I was saying, I moved to L.A., and then I sort of, like, locked down and was sort of like Herman, and I think that's when I started to feel really isolated. I felt like I had trouble, like, driving and, like, seeing friends in L.A., and I felt really alone, and I was, like, really gripping to control. It's so different from New York, too, where it's like, you can go to a fucking Bell House show with 50 people and make it all, all your friends. hold you and they can all be there for you and they get it. Whereas then you go to LA and it's like, that's not how it is.

No, and then it's at 3 p.m. and you're alone in your apartment and you're like, who am I? What's going on? So then basically my Saturn return came and I felt like my Saturn return was basically like all the lessons from my early 20s coming back, punching me in the face. And I got like messy again in a more elevated way, in a more fun adult and mature way. Elevated messy frontrunner for the title of it. Yes.

But elevated messy. But I think, so what I kind of tried to do with Maya and Tallulah is Tolula is sort of a representation of like me in my early 20s in New York. Maya is kind of that like control freak tendency, me like mid like 26, 27 in L.A. And then together they are better because I, what I'm hoping. What I'm hoping is that now I'm a more evolved person where I have a little bit more balance, a little bit more freedom, intuition, and I can have fun, but I'm not completely out of control, disaster mess.

You are representing in these two characters, Apollo Dionysus. Yeah. That's it. Oh. Apollo wants order. Dionysus wants hedonism and fun. He wants poppers. Dionysus wants poppers desperately.

It's actually a little culture number two. Dionyses wants poppers desperately. I have to connect with you about the poppers thing because I too was addicted to them. When? Because I'm thinking of like, imagine a world where not only was all those things true, but also it was tied to sex.

I couldn't even. That would be crazy. I don't think you'd be here. I don't think I'd be here. I'm almost not here. It's crazy. When you are like a bottom and you need them to take dick,

like it becomes a thing where I was in a relationship one time we were having sex all the time. It was short-lived. but I was using poppers all the time. And so when we broke up, it was not only a thing of like, I enjoy them and they get me off, but also it sort of like took me back a little bit. And I didn't realize that I had grown dependent.

And when I tell you, like, never been, it was a thing I talked to my therapist about for like almost a year. And she would actually ask at the top of sessions, like, how are you doing with this? And I was like, oh, my God. And it was the only thing I would have like the early. to Sabrina Carpenter lie to my therapist about because I was like this is humiliating

because what it literally is is you're huffing you're huffing, you're huffer. You're huffing, I know. It's literally, it's like when you're like a kid and you're in dare and they're teaching you about

the things you can get addicted to, you're like, well, that's the lamest one. Yeah, you're like that. That's not going to be me. Huffing? Huffing glue? And then there you are with amyl nitrate

trying to get dilated or, go to a Robin concert and enjoy dancing on my own more. Oh, my God. Which we also did. We also did. But there was a time when it got dangerously in the fabric of like social stuff. Yes.

Once you connect it, that's the, with any addiction, as soon as you've connected it, you formed the little wire in your brain. It's like, well, we're not coming back from this. It's like, now I'm remembering my ex. Now it's connected to just, it's like, what? It's very, very, very connected to sex and the gay community. And also, like, it's just a little social. Yes. Like, I remember one time we had Trixie Mattel on the show, and she was like, do you guys use poppers recreationally?

And we were like, yeah. And she was like, what? And now I'm kind of like seeing that perspective because it is a little bit like, like, get off, do your thing or go off. Get off and go off and get off. But like, it is a little bit like to have it around all the time, it's like, there are holes in your brain. There's holes in my brain for sure But it hasn't helped you back Hasn't helped you back

Or you The air I can feel the wind Going through the holes They're like It's like Swiss cheese That's how I get I get ideas

Yeah Because of the holes in my brain Wait The frequencies The frequencies are They're thrumming Was you moving to L.A. permanently

Was that the same time as Kamanat's L.A.? Or was that before? That was before Kamanat's L.A. Was just a trip that you took. Come on. It's LA. It was a trip that I took. And I did a little water bottle tour. This is pre-COVID. Yeah. And I felt completely lost there. I was sort of like,

what are these meetings? What's going on? And everyone was like, you're not supposed to like pitch anything hard. You just are supposed to like give people a sense of who you are. So then I would show up to these meetings and you would see the like person that I was meeting with like read the email about who I was and they would go like... Yes, Rachel... So you're a slut on Twitter. Who, what's going on? And then I would just go into all these meetings and like talk about how like a mess my life was.

And everyone's like, oh my God, girl, that is so funny. Okay, call us when you want to do a show about a sentence or something. No, this is what they would do. I would talk for like 45 minutes and then they would be like, okay, so on our slate, what we have is we are doing a remake of brats and we, but whatever, and they're like, and just come to us with one sentence and that's how we like to develop. Then I leave. I never hear from any of them again. No, never. Never. Never again. So I was just coming back from like a week of that being like, I feel crazy and stupid and everyone there like hates me, whatever. And I feel like I

I just, I was just joking around with my boyfriend at the time and being silly and then we made that video. But like, I mean, I'm sure you've been asked this and I want to ask what you're sick of being asked on this fucking press run. So for nothing. Really?

That's great. I can't think of, let me think a little bit, nothing so far. I came into being like, I'm going to ask her about Kamana Telly, just like briefly. But I feel like, I mean, gagged that that's like prophetic.

That like that, that ended up being like, yeah. No, it was kind of crazy. I was like, I didn't really, but do you know how they say time is always happening at the same time? Yeah, they do. Like right now, we're at the bell house. Flat circle vibes. We're at the bell house right now.

And I feel that. We're also 90 in the nursing home. Yeah. Oh my God. That's going to be a good conversation too. I can't wait. Potting for no one. Wait, we have to be at MPTF.

They need to put us in the same nursing home. That's why I said past, present and future. That is exactly what I meant. Us in the nursing home. Yeah. Us in the nursing home. But MPTF, like this fundraiser thing that like they throw every year around the Emmys, that is literally.

a nursing home for actors. I can't wait for us to be there. We have to go there. We have to go. Lena Dunham told us about it. It's like they do like pottery out. They literally do like for old actors. Oh, I love it.

People in TV and film like pottery. That's actually beautiful. I can't wait until it's our whole friend group there. Catherine, I'm the same coat. At the wheel. At the pottery wheel. You reaching for the poppers. Catherine, like no.

Put those away. Slapping my hand away. My love. I'm like, it's almost over. Just let me have one. It's almost over. Oh no. When we're 90, forget.

I'm ripping again. Yeah, we're done. We're done. Wait, so, okay, time is a flat circle. No, no, no, you were going to. Oh, no, no, no. It was, but yes, it felt almost prophetic. Yes.

Yes. But that was before I moved to L.A. And then I moved during COVID. Yeah. But bitch, now look at you. This is a show that is like on HBO and it's not a fucking sentence premise. You know what I mean? It's like, that's gaggy.

It's at least three sentences. It is at least three sentences. At least a paragraph. Trust me because they kept saying, give me one log line, that's one sentence. I was like, I can't. It's minimum four. Also, they wouldn't want that anyway.

Yeah, you got to have a lot of sentences. That's an exact being told. That's what you ask. What you ask. They say, give me one sentence. I go, I can't, I talk, I ramble. Yeah. I can't talk that short.

I can't talk that short. No. So, like, a sentence can be like infinitely long. Yes, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma. Oh, people forget about how many commas actually are permissible in a sentence. The answer would shock you. 12, 13. Wow.

15. Yeah. I can calm off. If you're doing a list in the sentence, fine. Fine. Get away with that. M-Dash. Whatever.

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Are you a moon person? I dabble I'm like sort of dabbling I'm definitely astrology I'm definitely tarot Because Adam returns Psychic. Yes.

Yes. I want to ask you guys, do you, like, what was your set of return? Oh, well, that was part of what you were coming upon. Okay. So our sad and return was... It's intense. I would call mine brutal. Okay.

I would call mine brutal and it also made me go to L.A. But because I think that's like... When you're like a New York fixture, it's kind of like, oh, when I'm running up against something at this age where it feels like my whole world is crashing. and your whole world is New York, makes sense to leave New York. Yeah. You know?

And so then I went to L.A. and it was making me feel better about everything. And so, like, when I was watching the first episode of I Love L.A., and it was, like, flashing around. Like, you know, the little flash at Akbar, the little, like, is it leaves of grass that you shot in in that one bar? In the trees? No, tenants.

Yeah. Why don't I say leaves of grass? That's so different. Tenants of the trees. I was like, oh, my God. This is one of the bars that I went to when I first got there. Like, it reminded me of like, not to be like this, but like L.A. pre-COVID. Yeah.

And because now there's a lot about L.A. that's like kind of lost that thing that I felt like were so fun for me when I first got there. Yeah. But I am happy to say there have been permits filed to save the arc light. Did you see this? Like, the arc light might come back. I love that. And even just that is like, like, I remember they closed them fucking oil can Harry's. Yeah.

And I was just like, ugh, like these little things that I, you know, not in totality. It's like it feels like maybe, oh, yeah, that place left. Like, but when you lose a bunch of those things, it hurts. Yeah, totally. It feels like watching your show. I was like, oh my God, yeah, there's like so much to love about L.A. There's like, there's that spot, that's spot, like this energy. Yeah.

And so that's what I like really liked about it is it was like taking me back to like a time that I was like, oh, even though it's like when you're making a show about it in L.A., you're inherently dragging L.A. a little bit because that. that's what you do when you love something. Yes. It was like, it felt like the really positive, like beautiful parts of it were so present in that first. Yeah. And I think like it's, I also feel like, because I moved to LA during COVID.

So I was never there for that pre part. And I feel like I, when I first moved there, I had such a hard time. And it was like everything was closed and whatever. But I feel like it's felt, it's been so special to like put down roots and feel more and more at home there as like I think new things pop up and like things like reopen or things like like the arc light or whatever or the vista like I love going to the vista and it's like that's such a little community spot now it's like people are waiting outside to go see movies there like it's really really cool in this show Jordan lives in Weill right in the show he lives out in Weho a lot

He lives in Silver Lake, but he used, you'll see later, he used to live in WeHo. Okay, so that comes up. So the WeHo of it all is, like, whenever friends come and they're like, decide to move to WeHo, I'm like, okay. Okay. Because I'm just thinking, like, what do you think it is? What do you think it is? Because it's kind of like a gay theme park there for a second. Yeah.

But then, like, anything. There's like housing options, though. There's a lot of, like, units. Yes. Yes. And I'm not going to talk shit about WeHo because it's so boring. But I will say that, like, what was great. talk shit about it. What was great about it when I got there, I was like going out to like high tops and like on Santa Monica Boulevard. And this was back when we had pump.

Not that I was like going to pump, but it was fun to see pump. You just wanted the option to go to pump. You could say it even as a joke. Totally. I got a pump. Yeah. I want the option to go to pump. It's rule of culture number 10. I want the option to go to pump. And it was just like, I don't know, there was something really fun about it and then COVID happened. And that also kind of like changed it. And now it's like a lot of short girl stealing phones. We've never caught them. Never. I'm a short girl. And you know I'm going to steal a phone. I'll take it. It's alleged that it's like some short girl stealing phones because the phone theft there is like

really crazy. Oh my God. But yeah, even like the Wii Ho of it all, like that was what I did when I first got there. Yeah. I was like interested to see what you guys explore in terms of WeHo in the show. We get there. We get to be on. Yeah. There's a Weho moment. I feel like this is the first L.A. show in a while, or maybe ever, that's, like, actually honest about, you mean, like, it's even a throwaway line in the pilot where you're just like, it's really isolating here. Yeah. And, like, I think that's just, that's the sentence. That's, not further to be a sentence for the show, but that is the sentence. It is, it is, I think, like, you can feel, it's very easy. And this is something that I actually have come to love about L.A. In New York, like,

you go outside, stuff like. It's happening. It's happening. Stuff comes to you. Stuff comes to you. And I think I'm someone who in my life, like, not to say I was ever like a passive person, but I sort of sometimes felt like life was like taking me and making things happen. And I was out of control of it. Yeah. And I think in L.A, it forces you to be a little bit more of an active member in your own life. And like not make yourself like the victim of like for a while. I was like, no one was saying out with me.

No one's my friend. Like everybody hates me. it's like, bitch, text and make a plan. Make a fucking plan. Get in your car, even though you hate driving. Get in the route four and go and make a plan and find your friends and build your community here. Yeah. And like, I think that changed me in like a really positive way.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I was so committed to like, I think I was just so stubborn and like, well, like, I had all these rules of like, I can't go out at night because I have a dinner three days from now. and I, if I, if I drink, like, so controlling of myself. And I was like never having any fun. And I think I also was like, if I want to be successful, I can't enjoy life. Like enjoyment is what happens after I achieve something. Right. And then I get to enjoy life for two days.

And then I have to achieve something else. And that was sort of like my mindset. And then I think like, honestly, making the show change my mindset a lot too because I was like, wait a second, I'm going to be working hard on this on this for a long time. And I remember their sweat tour was happening in L.A. and it was like one of my first couple of weeks like in the room and I was on a walk with Molly. And she was like, we have to go to sweat tour. And I was like, I know, but I just, I have to be taken seriously.

And I can't like, I just can't go out until like, she was like, till when I was like until the show comes out. She was like, in a year. She literally goes, my love, you need to experience life. If you're going to be able to write stuff, you're coming to Sweat Tour. Best sign of my life. Yeah, 100%. See, and you know, you were working and didn't come to Sweat Tour. And you should have gone.

I had the mirror version in New York. Yeah. Because it was like the first day of work last season. And I was like, I can't. He texted and he was like, I don't think I can come. I was like, no, do you? Your energy is important. And literally that night, I remember it was like one of those things.

It was like, something about like, like, Charlie and Troy, and that show in particular, which was one of the best concerts I've been to, unlocked. And I did, it was like a weekday, and I did stay out until three, slept with somebody, woke up at his home. And in the morning, I woke up and I was like,

you were wrong not to come, but you were also right not to come. No, I was ultimately wrong. Because guess what? Guess what I was doing, literally writing an impression of Charlie X, X, X, X, X, that was totally mad. And you know what I mean?

It was great that you did that. But it was like, that was the irony of it. But I was going to say, when we were announcing Oscar Noms together. Oh, my God. At 4 in the morning. You guys were so fun. You guys were so fun.

I loved that was you two together. That was such like a love letter to like all of our friends. It was sleep over vines. It was sleep overrines. Me and Bowen call time. 3 a.m. 3 a.m. It was like midnight call time.

Yep, yep, yeah. Bowen had just flown in and we're like there with the teleprompter trying to say. What was the name that I couldn't say? Oh, wait, maybe we don't say it. It was a French one. No, it was a French was the hardest. It was the film. It was that film.

A prophet. No. It was one time. No. I said, Un Prophet, and I was like, she rocks. What was the movie? It was like something. It was like a Portuguese thing.

No, it was Amelia Perez. Yes. Amelia Perez. Because they were telling Rachel, it has to be Perez. Pedes. Peders. And then as soon as they said it, do you know, as soon as someone like, no, yeah. Corrects you, then every single time I was like, Amelia Paris.

Emily and Paris. Amelia Paris. And so then now when I. I'm at the teleprompter, I'm going, it's like, you'll see it in the video. I'm like, Amelia Pell! You say. I remember we were watching it at home, like me and the group chat, we're watching the gay group chat, watching the Oscars, we're like, wow, they're slaying the pronunciation.

And I remember, because we were all like, how many times are we going to hear Amelia Perez? A lot. And we heard it a lot. And I said it every time. You said it every time. I was like, can we give one to Bowen? One to Bowen. Please.

Oh, I know it's saying it seamlessly. Please let, Bob. Can we trade? Can we all? Please, please. I'm begging you. And they wouldn't like change it on the prompter. No, no. And every time it was like, I would look to you before I said and I would be like, and you'd be like. Time is about to have, because I feel like we're there right now.

We're there right now. But what I was going to say is you were in the room, you were in the room for our love L.A., like smack dab in the middle. And I was going to say, I was like, you were so relaxed and like it felt like I just assumed, oh, is it that? No, I actually didn't that night. That night, I was just tired. But I felt, I actually, genuine, I felt calm being with you. Because I do think sometimes, like, things get crazy. And then you see people that you knew when you were like 20.

And you're like, I'm okay. I'm okay. Yeah. But I was going to say that, like, I was going to assume, and this is just my bad, it's like post bottoms, it's like you would never need to prove yourself again. Because that is something that you fucking did. But of course, it's this thing where we have where it's like, well, like, we got to do it.

Like, here we go. We've curved ourselves, quote, unquote, in ways before, but now we're like, oh, but also to the next level. It never feels like enough. We need to find, we need to find self-worth and God. And also, I think, like, this year I was also like, you need to find value in the making of the thing. Yes.

And your friends and your family and your relationships because I worked on this. for so long and I felt like a lot of pressure because this is the first thing that I made where it was like every step of the way is announced and that's the way that TV works you know you get a pilot order just the fact that you're writing something is announced then that gets picked up announced again yeah then you make go make that you edit that then if that doesn't get picked up, people know. Right.

It does get picked up. All the casting. People know. The casting gets announced. Then you go make the show. And by the time like you're actually getting to make the show, it's like I'm posting a TikTok of me like drinking a coffee and everyone's like, go work on your show, Mama. Ew.

And I'm like, no, they were right. They're 12 and they're right. What I also love was like they kept announcing like untitled Rachel's set up project. Untitled Rachel's. To the point where I was like, is it called that? Because for a second I was like, I think it's called. called Untitled Racial Center project, and I think it kind of rock. Call it, call it whatever you want to call it, because honestly, it's like, at this point

I'm like, it is, we still, in the office will be like, yeah, for the Untitled Rachel Senate show. Untitled Rachel Senator Joe. But it's, it was just, I felt really vulnerable. Yeah. And so I think I had to change my mindset a little of, I can't punish myself. No. The entire time that I'm doing this and not live life and whatever and see my friends. and I also need to, like, enjoy the process of making this

because it was one of the most, like, rewarding, creatively fulfilling things to get to do. And I was like, and I can't freak out about the pressure. I'm freaking out about the pressure now or like at least one week ago. But then I was like, it's okay to freak out now because it's too late. I already made it. So I can't change it, unfortunately. Pictures locked. So it's too late.

Yeah. But it's like, I think it helped hopefully shift my mindset a little where I was like, I have to be able to, you have to find balance while you're working. Because guess what? Now, I'm going to make the argument that time is linear because now going forward, you will always have had the experience of writing and starring and making your own movie and also writing and starring making your own TV show. Like that is something that no one can take away from you. And like, just go forth with that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

I'm going to, I'll text you being like, can you say that one more than a time? I think it's so, it's good though to like, I think admit that you like are caring that much about every detail and that you are like low key punishing yourself because sometimes it can feel like whenever we're on the internet or whatever. Like perception is not always reality.

Like you know who fucking is like one of the hardest working people ever is Charlie. Yes. But her image is I'm partying. Like, Doolipa, always on vacation. You go to her show, she's working so hard. Yeah. So it's not like, I think people can get caught up in the image of things and not understand like how much is going into it.

And like, there is, you can clearly find a balance because there are people that are doing it. Yeah. Those people are exhausted. Yeah. But it can be done. Yeah. Yeah.

The sweat tour was literally created by someone who's like, yeah. Like, Sauvignon Blanc in the end. fucking cigarette, sunglasses at night, let's fucking go. But the thing is like so, so, so, so, so many hours of work. Yes. Day in and day out. Yeah, it's both things. Yeah.

It's holding both things. You know what stuck with me? I was on shrooms when I was watching Gaga do Mayhem tour. Mayhem Ball. She goes. Incredible. Incredible. Just the best.

I wish I could go. I missed it. Come to Tokyo. Come to Tokyo with us. Come to Tokyo. Come to Tokyo. She goes. I just want to say

I care so much that you guys have a good time tonight. Love that. That is like entertainer shit. Yes. That's it. Yes. Exactly.

And that's what it's about. It's like, I want you to, depending on who the performer is. Yeah, yeah. But it's like, I want you to laugh. I want you to get horny.

I want you to cry a little bit. I want you to feel shit and I want you to have fun. Like, I want you to have a good fucking time. Yeah. It's kind of fascinating too Because like tell me how you feel about this

But coming from like where we came from Like very much like I don't know if you would identify with this Like I'll just say the three words Brooklyn Alt comedy You know what I mean? Identify Yeah I think that's

We said so on the Oscars announcement Oh yeah we did We've gone look at that We had to call it out But I feel like the thing that is encouraged When we were all developing Was like be yourself Be authentic

Share the story go out there and say and do whatever the fuck say that like dangerous thing etc yeah and then you do get to a certain point where it becomes oh are you going to say that are you sure yeah and you're like but that's the basis of why we did yeah yeah totally it becomes this rub between authenticity and like going for it yes and also it's it's this thing of like I know what makes me is the messiness and then suddenly there I am on a red carpet. Yes. And you're like, huh.

And I think we all have like varying degrees of that. Yes. But that is like an interesting place to find yourself. Yeah. Because then you walk into the room where you once had a general and they're like, yeah, one sentence or else, we're forgetting about you now. You go to that same place. Here's the keys to your own fucking nice car. And we're not giving out a lot of cars.

Yeah. In fact, we're giving out one car. One car. And you can drive it. Yeah. And drive it however you want. Yeah. Crash it.

Crash it. But, like, that's a crazy change in expectation and responsibility. Yeah, totally. Totally. It's like, it's a wild thing. But I had an inadvertent, like, Shiva Baby Night reunion on Sunday watching I Love L.A. And then I was just stoned out of my mind. I was like, I didn't get to watch Oh, hi.

And so I put on Ohio. I fucking loved it. Yeah. Well, she's brilliant. Molly is amazing. Yeah. And so, and the range that she has, like, yeah. But that is, that is a tough movie for both her and Logan to pull off,

where they both have to. I love Logan's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. He's amazing. He's, he's, like, such a star. Darling is a darling. Darling is fuck.

Yeah. Oh, what a, what a nice young man. I know. I love when people are nice, too. Me too. Wait, I, I also feel our group, our, like, whole group, whatever. Like, I feel like we all. graduated, I feel like there was like maybe a mental illness period to speak you on behalf of

myself where it felt like, oh my God, what are we doing? I'm still in it. And now, but I do feel there's like, I don't know, I feel like everyone's a lot more grounded and like we have balance and everyone's like doing their thing and it's really cool. Well, you were right though about the crying because I remember like how it's like you see like people that it's just easier to cry with them because you're just, you're just reminded did a more emotionally rounded thing. I remember I went to George Severus's wedding,

and I hadn't seen Iow in a long time. And Iio and I ended up crying together on the street. And I was just like, about for different things. George is like, for me? And you're like, no. And then more like, are you crying because you're happy? I was like, I think earlier, yes. I did shed some tears because I was happy for George.

But like now it's about something else. Now something else. But it's like when you reconnect with people that like, you know, you saw in a different way. It's like a lot of it is pride. A lot of it is like, wow, you know, it's crazy to think of how much has passed. A lot of it is filling people in on what's gone on. But like there is a safety and comfort there and doing it with people that like you know are good people because you've seen them.

And they've had a lot of the same friends for a long time. Yes. Which is a huge indicator of someone being like really genuine and not having actually changed. Yes, totally. You keep your core crew. You keep your core crew. must on a half. And seeing like Jordan at the premiere and Benny and like just every month, like it was just, it was a perfect, like Sunday was so amazing because it was like Charlie posting about like the show. Yeah, I felt so, I felt so much support from friends in the community where I was like, I don't know. I think, I think like, I know other generations have done this, but I do feel like what I really feel like are generation, our grade.

Our grade has done really well We're all in high school together Is like actually genuinely supporting each other And like having each other's backs Which I think is like Not rare but I think it's really nice It's not a given No it's not and like I was just telling

Before we started that I was back In one of the theaters That we used to hang out in a lot And you can tell it's different Things are more expensive Like certain venues are owned by like corporations it's harder to just book things like you know tickets to shows are way more expensive it's not as easy to community and i was actually like sort of mourning that the

other night after the show having a drink with our friend amanda who just moved back to new york and is like you know it's interesting because i moved back here part of me was like oh i want to connect to that community again and it's harder and we were sort of like mourning that and And then we were like, I guess it's up to us to reignite. We got to do it. Because we could all just sit back and say like, oh, isn't it a shame? Yeah. But meanwhile, that had been the one show I was out all on.

And it does take a certain amount of energy that you, you know, of course, have less of as you get older and, like, Ken's staying in and, like, are told by the phone to stay in or, you know, things just get easier. Yeah. But if you want to change something, you do have to be the one that changes it. Yes. totally like it's not it's you can be like oh I wish there was more stuff or blah blah blah or you could be like let's do it and make it happen like I also feel like whenever I like push myself to go out or do something or try something like that I never regret it no except for sometimes but when you're like I should say I'm sorry for the most part you're like okay

I need to like especially to when you haven't seen people in a second or Whatever. Were you doing the show that you went to or you were just seeing? I hosted it. I hosted it. And so it was game show. It was like a show that I used to do all the time. And now I do it like twice a year.

Yeah. But it's like it's and it is like a community driven show and like it's like people were there. And like it felt great. Yeah. But I was just saying like it just doesn't happen that much. And then not that you feel old, but you sort of feel like, oh, did I like, did I just grow out of what that was? Yeah. Or did I in some way, I don't know why the guilt creeps in.

like abandon that or like, did I not do a good enough job of staying connected? But then it's like what you're saying, we were just in high school and graduated. Yes. We're at that age now where we're like, oh, yeah, back in my day. Back in my day. But the other thing, too, is I'm like, we show up to the open mics and we scare the kids. I know, right? It's like, can I do three minutes?

Like, it's like, because I also feel like there must, there is definitely like a, like, Union Hall is so. happening, yeah. I feel like I see cool shows and stuff going on there. Yeah. Which is cool. Probably the, like, the 20-year-olds right now are listening to this. They're like, huh-huh. And they don't know about like, like, people be bees.

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I'm wondering, what are you going to? Wait, wait, go, go. No, no, no, I was going to take us in a one place. Let's go. I was going to say we still didn't do you. You did your Saturn return of moving to. Oh, yeah. What was your Saturn Return?

I think this is my Saturn Return. Imagine like large, big, huge pizza, let's say. My Saturn Return was like big dollop and it's still being spread out. Like, I feel like my Saturn Return started at 28 and it's kind of still going. Okay. It lasts longer than people realize. Yeah. I think it also varies person to person.

Do you know what I mean? I've had like beats of it. Okay. Like I think shooting wicked, going back and forth, like having a full mental breakdown was like that was one. During the filming. Because you were filming and doing SNL at the same time. Because I was filming and doing SNL at the same time. That's psychotic.

Well. But worth it. Worth it. But also like. So good in the movie. Great on the show. Oh, you should see the little girls. The little girls.

But even like. even that was just like oh my god like I'm basically like flying back because I'm like furniture in this movie you know what I mean it's like they need me in the shop because like you know what we shot like you know oh we just we saw your elbow like last month so you need to come back you know

like it's that was a locus of it I think starting SNL was like truly like dissociative yeah and now as it's like slowly petering now and I'm like oh now I'm like reflecting all of it and it's all coming back to me now you're processing. I'm processing

I think, like, I'll see you. Like, I'm like, it's still happening. It's still happening. Is that crazy? No. 35. Not at all. Not at all. I think also, like, I think that like it could, the main events could have happened.

Yes. But the waves of things. The ramifications. My new favorite word. The ramifications. I love ramifications. The ramifications. I want to release an album called The Ramifications of You, just the letter you.

And it's me like, it's like late 90s. R&B, and it's me just like this, and it's called The Ramifications of You. Oh, my God. Wow. I love the word ramifications. I'm buying it. I'm buying it.

But continue. But I do, one, I have to say, it is crazy hearing you say that about Wicked because it's like, I feel like you're such an important character. But when a movie is that cinematic and big and there's so many characters, I've been in stuff, anything with like an ensemble cast, it is so crazy. because it's like you do your scenes, but so much of it is like, it's like, you walked backwards in through this.

You're in the back of the frame and you're texting. And so then you're there for like a 15 hour a day in the background like that. Yeah. And it doesn't matter who you are. Wait, you're so good. It's like, it happens where you're in the scene.

It's part of the job. It's totally part of the job. And by the way, it's like, it's not, it's like there are way harder things to do. But I think it's like when you get into the world of making something and then, especially when you're flying back and forth, it just messes with your head a little where you're like, wait, but what should I be doing? And then there's days where you think they need you and then they don't.

And then you just start to feel a little kooky. Cooky, cooey. Yes. Yeah. I am also wondering, like, what excuse are we going to have as we go into like our late 30s when bad shit happens to us and we're going through it? Like, well, this isn't my son of returns. You know what I mean?

Yeah, you're like, so this is just life. This is just, oh, I'm going to my, like, when we all go through our first divorces, we're going to be like, well, this is just our first divorce. No. You know, I'm saying just in theory. I really don't want to get divorced. I've never even, I've never even interacted with the idea of being divorced. And now that it's in my head, I'm like, oh, God, you know what I mean? Yeah.

I do know what you mean is that it's like life. I think. when you're younger, it's sort of like glamorous when things are like kind of a disaster. And then as you get older, you're like, okay, Tim, it's like there's a disaster and now I have to go to my job. You know what I mean? I think we might be less. As we get older, we may be less invested in the things that would have devastated us

earlier. That's true. So for example, like, I was saying before we started like, oh, like there was this event and I don't think I was invited to it. And I think maybe three years ago, I would have been like, why didn't I get invited to this thing? Or I, like, does it mean something about, like, where I'm mad or whatever? And then I'm kind of was just saying to myself, you know, Matt, you're invited to a lot of things. You probably didn't even.

Did you actually want to go to this thing? The answer was no. And then I was like, also, it is a choice to spin out about something like that, which actually does not matter. Does not matter. Like, and then I do think that the sadden return of it all. is just really what it is it's like the settling into of adulthood, the realizing that you are an adult

and there is no going back into and there's that like few year period where you're filtering through what actually matters and then you land on the other side of that and that's actually the end of the set of return. So we can talk about it being like planetary and whatever and astrological, but really what it is is it's sort of like your first midlife crisis.

Yeah. It's like an adult. adulthood crisis, which I think the millennial generation and the Gen Z generation, like, all interacts with in a similar way because we're given similar responsibilities and we're given similar deterrence in terms of success. Yeah. And we've all got, like, the internet in this way. Like, they weren't, we started calling at the Saturn return.

What it really is, it's like, it's a way to say, like, hey, we're all, like, engaging with becoming adults in a way that's been different from everyone. else. Yes, totally. And, you know, suddenly we're 28 and you realize you're not 25. Yeah. And then you're 33 and you're realizing you're not 30. And so that's, I think, you know what I mean?

Like it's just like, it's like a quarter of life crisis. Yes, totally. You tore. Did I tear? Yeah. Well, occasionally. Often. You dead.

You dead. Because also switching to water for the first time, by the way, I realized I chugged this whole Diet Coke and then I was like. I did see you sort of. of like start sipping the water about 10 minutes ago and I saw in your eyes

how thirsty you had been I know I was like so wait a minute I've been drinking what is this called aspartine yes

I've been which I love aspartine thank you for inventing it are you good at drinking water uh huh yeah

because I did acutine so when I did acutine I was drinking I was like hooked up to an IV basically I was so dry I would have to drink water every second.

I was reapplying aquifer. I was bleeding from my face. And since I did acutene, I actually, like, can't really drink that much. Yeah. You're still on it? No. But it changed, like, I used to drink so much more before acutene. Wow.

And I don't know what it did. Damage my liver. But I can't really drink the same. Or what happens? You just get drunk pretty quickly, or you feel sick? I get drunk pretty quickly. I get like buzzed off of like a one drink and I also like get hungover almost like immediately

Do you know what I mean? Like it's like if I have one cocktail It's like drunk in 15 minutes hungover in 30 Yeah So I'm like is this worth it? Yeah But I think it just I was It did something to me

It really dried me out And now I drink I have to drink a lot of water too And I love peeing Like if I can pee I'll pee whenever It feels incredible It feels good. It's like a free. I like any of those like free little things that your body does.

It's free. Oh, sneezing is nothing like it. It's a free break. Yeah. Do you, can I ask? Yeah. Sometimes are you like, I wish I could just do this standing up. Peeing standing up?

Yeah. Because I got to tell you, it's really nice that we have the people with decks have the option. I sit all the time. I love to sit down. I sit down every now. At home, at home I sit when I pee. I guess I wish I could pee standing when I'm wearing like certain outfits

I have like it's like it's so funny when you go to like a glam event or whatever but ultimately the bathrooms are like porter potty's and then you're in the tiner porter potty like banging on the walls and like the dress there's like three layers and you're like standing over it

trying to pee and it's that I'm like it's like you're slipping sliding on the floor like I'm like standing could be fabulous right now Yeah. It's sometimes those fancy events that are the most bootleg. It's like truly being held up by sticks. Yes.

But the picture is like. Fabulous. You would never imagine what's happening just 10 feet away. Border bodies. We're going to try to write a sketch this week called the bathroom awards. The bathroom awards. The bathroom awards. Like best, best think.

Love that. One thing about L.A. is there'll be certain restaurants where they're like and there's no rules here. to have amazing time, but you can't take a photo in the bathroom. You know what I mean? Like, have you ever interacted with this? Yes. It's just like just no photos in the bathroom.

What is that? I don't know, but I'm like, if there's one place we should be able to take a photo, it's the bathroom. Clearly. And then I'm like, do they just- Phone time, photo time, touch-up time. Yes. It's a holy space. And a good interior decorer would say, the most important room to decorate in your house

is the bathroom because it's where your guests will be alone. It's the only place where your guests will be alone. Boom. And they'll snoop around. I wasn't going to do, so I have an apartment in New York now and I wasn't going to do my bathroom. But then I was like, you know what? We have to do the bathroom because of that reason. And also it's just like, okay, also I have a bathroom with a bathtub.

Yep. I don't need it. I'm ripping it out. I'm doing a walk-in shower. And I don't care if that decreases the value of it later. My thing is just like, I don't want a bathtub. I hate stepping over something. Because let me tell you what can and has.

happened to people in my life, sometimes the bathroom gets hot and sometimes you get a little bit like overheated. And then like you don't want to have to step over the bath. No. Like you got to, like you need to be able to come right out. I'm going to tell you a story after this. Bathrooms are hazardous. They need to be easy and they need to be aesthetically appealing. Yep. Because people need to have their eyes open. Yes. Yes. Bathrooms are dangerous. I totally can have a hard time in a bathroom like shower like especially like coming home from an event or something you're like falling in the shower no you've hit the jay you've hit the j yes it's really i basically i agree i will say there's something so fun about like the i'm sorry like when i used to pass out at chorus

concerts on purpose for attention at what concerts chorus concerts in high school and middle Oh my God, you're an icon. Every single one. We're back in on this. Back in on that. And they're picking you up. You go like, I'm so embarrassed. You're not.

I'm so embarrassed. Like, I love doing that. I love when I'm like, I'm trying to think that the last time I was like, sick or crying. Or crying. Or bowing on the plane. Yes. And you're freaking out.

And you're like, I just wish this wasn't happening right now. I'm so embarrassed. Everyone goes, no. No. No, no, keep passing out, pass out more. Like, that's the best thing to do. I feel like the... I love that you passed out, of course.

Always. I love it. I'm seeing the rafters just like... I do pass it. I did once pass out on a family vacation, and it was, like, so embarrassing. And it was like, the other thing I did once on a family vacation was throw up three times in the van on the way to the airport because I was hungover. And I threw out the window, but then it blew back and blew back into my sister's window. And my whole family was like, my parents were like, everyone, everyone wanted to like make fun of me. And my parents were like, everyone needs to be nice to Rachel for the next like hour until she feels better.

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Oh, my God. It is the moment. Back in the day, we used to do 50 of these a night. Today we're going to do three. Three. It's our minute to rant and rail against something in Colch. And I'm turning to Baheed, and I'm asking him to do the thing we said we were going to do because mine is a little bit different. Here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so when his time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, ASMR. It's not that I don't like it. It's just that I don't get it. Is this sexual for you? Or is it, like, soothing? And I wonder, am I even allowed to, I don't think so any of this? Or are people that love ASMR like a protected glass? No, you're allowed. Okay. So then if this is true, then I'm excited to do this. Ooh, tingles. I saw Lady Gaga and Catherine Zeta Jones do this. And I was like, for something. Something that seems kind of niche. These are two huge stars. And they were promoting Wednesday, which feels very commercial. So I guess ASMR is commercial. Are you obsessed?

Like, I don't think so any that I necessarily get it. I'm willing to learn. But is this something that I could have a career in? Because it feels like people do this, like, exclusively for money. And I'm just really excited to explore and hear what you guys think. I just don't think so honey that I get it. it is this horny? Is it soothing? What is it? What is A S-M-R-I-D-T-S-H? And that's one minute. Boom. And we're back to normal volume. Thank God. How did you feel about it?

I feel like you, once you learn the conventions, once you learn the things to do, there's so you just did ASMR in a whisper, there's soft-spoken. Oh, so that I could have been like that Like, soft-spoken like this. Soft-spoken is just you're, you're phonating and you're not fully down here in the whisper. Gaka was doing it like this. A lot of people have defaulted to the whisper, but Cardi B, she kind of had a viral W magazine, ASMR moment. She clearly knows her stuff. Okay.

So she was kind of going from the whisper into the soft-spoken, I feel, autonomous sensory meridian response, tingles. You're into it. I love. Oh, so you love that what I just did. So I wouldn't say I loved it. I was, I just, I just want to inform you, you that there is a really beautiful community out there. Okay. Queen of Serene.

I got a shout of Queen of Serene. The mother of all ASMR, gentle whispering, Maria, she basically invented the form. There's the woman who does the Alexander technique, who inadvertently does ASMR. Oh, my God. That's an iconic form. So you're pro ASMR. I'm not pro. I'm an enthusiast.

Okay. Okay. My gateway into this was Queen of Serene and Maria gentle whispering doing towel folds. Okay. Because she used to work as a housekeeper at a hotel. And also, she does celebrity face tracing where she talks about, she traces like Natalie Portman's face and talks about what movie she likes. Oh. It's like, it's a very cute.

It's not super. It is a little sexual because it has to be. Some people like do like, you know, Gussie. gussie up a bit. I guess my thing is like when I'm hearing someone whispered to me I can't help but think it's a little sexual.

You know what I mean? Are you with me on that? Yeah. I agree. I see what you're saying. Yeah. It feels like it's like they're like they're keeping like

it's not sexual. And I'm like don't make me feel like a pervert. Yeah. Yeah. Is it or not? Because my thing is like if they're a protected class

people who like ASMR I will respect it. Yeah. And my thing is just They're not But my thing is like I just want to understand They're protected class

They're not They're not I'm here as like As an enthusiast They're not So if you are You're one of the people He's running the community

And he's saying They're not Drag me It's fine It's totally fine Yeah Okay drag drag Well I'm excited about

Getting into it I don't think I could possibly Get what You're getting out of it Because I'm always like I get relaxed I get relaxed

It makes me go like this Oh When someone whispers in my ear, like, she does, she does color analysis. That's the tingles. Okay.

She does color analysis on celebrity. She, like, has like, you know, like the, the thing. She's really good. I mean,

that's my first foray into it. That's really good. That was my, I don't think so honey. That was a very good. I hope that people like it. I hope that people understand. Are you ready?

I'm ready. Okay. This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey. His time starts now. I don't think so honey. We need to go back to buttons. This. Oh,

this is so nice. Touch screens. are toast. They're chopped. Touch screens suck. I don't ever want to see an iPad ever again. I wanted to be a cash register on God as a child because they were pressing buttons having a blast,

beeping with the scanners. And now I'm buying four keyboards. Thawking, thawking, creamy, creamy. That's ASMR for you. My girl Maria also does keyboard ASMR. 30 seconds. She rolls slime on the keyboards. And then thock, thawck, thaw does that.

That's called a thawkey button. I'm talking to everybody. behind the camera here. We all get it. We all, my gamer guys in the room, up in this piece, we're going. 15 seconds. iPhone, iPad gaming, chopped. It's all about the button press on the controller because guess what? Connect, whatever PS, whatever, all the other camera stuff, it's not the same thing. I need to press the button to feel something. That's one minute. It's certainly more fun. I can apply for myself. I'm sorry. To press a button than it is to do a That's, you know what I mean?

I'm like, wife, I'm over it. Can I touch? Yes. Yeah, it does feel really good. It feels so nice, right? I was saying sometimes like, sometimes you're like, you're. So that is sexual for you. That is pretty much.

This is the sound, touch and sounds episode. Yeah. Yeah. It reminds you of some of something. Yeah. Of force, which we don't do anymore. I feel like we've gotten worse at fucking because we don't do, we don't do that. Because we don't have buttons.

We don't have buttons. Literally. You think you're worse at fucking because you're not pushing... I'm going to go crazy tonight. Light up the J and push. And push. Have you been lighting up the J? I actually have. I stopped lighting up the J for a couple years because I was getting paranoid. But then I started bringing it back. You're so back.

You got it. I'm so back. As long as I do it with one person that I trust, I'm okay. Just one person that you trust? Yes, because actually if I do it alone, scary, two people, scary. One person that I trust, safe. See, one person that I trust Sometimes like Like Halfway three

You start to worry You don't trust them Totally You're like Who are you? Who are you? Or like one time I didn't know the person

That well And he was like Come over We'll smoke a J And I was like Oh we're going to fuck I'm nervous about that And I can't get out of my head

About if we're gonna fuck No it has to be someone That you either Know you're gonna fuck And he fucked them Before and you're in safe space Or like Best Friend Family

We know it's like Not that. Because here's the thing. Once I smoke a J, I start talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Talking. And I don't hold back from the truth. No, you never have.

And I don't hold about any sort of, I am not someone who like tells gossip. I'm like a lockbox. Until. But if I'm off the J, off the J, on the J. If I'm on the J, I'm just, la-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-la. So it's like I need to be with someone. So there's like three people maybe that I can smoke weed around. That's self-aware.

Yeah. And if I'm alone, it's bad because I just start like, I just start like, I think maybe it's because I still live in the place that I live with my ex-boyfriend, but I start like picking up a fork and being like, who ate off this? Yeah. Like what happened? I get freaked out by my house. Wow.

You want the history of things. That it wears me off. So do we count as one person that you could smoke weed with? I can smoke weed with you guys. Yeah, I bet you could. But maybe I could only do you guys one-on-one. Oh, you can't do three people. I think it's just because then I start to be like,

am I talking over everyone versus am I talking? Like, I would be like, I think I would, I think it needs to be a, no, Rachel, what I want when I get stoned, I go full nonverbal. He wants someone else to talk. And I want someone else to talk. Which is where I come in.

But we would crush together. We would crush together. You guys would just probably sit and watch something. Oh, I would love it. But I would talk through the whole thing. Yeah, you would talk through. Do you remember where the opening of Shrek? Oh my God, it's happening right now.

Wow. Oh, I love it. Oh, it's so good. I can't wait for the dulox scene of Shrek. Yes, I love the duLoc scene. Fabulous. She is white. Yes.

It's literally, it's actually what made Shrek a global phenomenon. A global phenomenon. Do Lach is, Dulac is a perfect. Wow, I really did like their key. Do you know what's crazy is that movies for children, I continually watch them back and I'm like, this is reflecting in our culture right now. Oh, yes. Doolock is, is the government right now.

And I'm like, it's haunting. Very godmother. What Doolock is, is the government. Is the government. Wait. What Doolock is number 50. What Doolock is is the government. It is.

Rachel, it's time for you. I don't think so, honey. Oh, it feels like old times. Oh, we're back. This is, Rachel said it's, I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey, driving. Okay.

I should not be behind the way. wheel sober at or anytime ever. And you know what? I'm taking everybody off the road. Yep. Here's what I'm cool with. Walking. Yeah.

Bikes. Let's go. Train. Totally fine. Here's something else. Waymos, okay? Fuck off. Nope.

Oh. They just find out a way for cars to drive themselves and I think that's safer. Because I am in Los Angeles and nobody knows how to drive. And if you want to drive in L.A., the only way to drive in L.A. is to break the rules. Yeah. If you want to drive, you have to drive. to be turning on reds. You got to be doing a left on a red if you

want to drive. You've got to be speeding if you don't want to get hit from behind. You've got to be texting if you want to know where to go. So I just, you can't drive safely to drive at all. To drive safely, you have to drive dangerously. In L.A. I get in car accidents

once a quarter and I'm sick of it. No more driving. And that's one minute. I do want to ask you about that because this is like, it is like, I think you were, you were on the carpet being like, yeah, I get into an accident for a few months. I'm like, Rachel. And not bad ones. No, like a better better.

But I, they always happen to me because I follow the rules. Yeah. I follow the rules. And because of that, I'm always getting in fender vendors. I put on my blinker. I look. I go, I'm entering that link. Can I get over there?

By the way, I get stuck because people are breaking the rules. Like I said, it says, don't take the left from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. People don't care. They're taking the left on the red. So now I'm stuck behind you for 45 minutes I need to get over to that lane because I'm late for work

because I have my job so then I'm putting on the blinker and then I go okay I'm going over there and then someone speeds bam they hit me No the aggressive people get their way on the road I'm one of them And now it's technically my fault No you just

That happens to be on Valentine's Day Oh God Yeah but you saying to drive safely Is to drive dangerously Wow wow And to drive dangerously is to drive safely Well, people have different schools have thought about this. There's, like, the defensive drivers who are like, I'm super careful.

I'll sometimes stop at, like, a green, like, you know what I mean? But then I'm like, yeah, but like, that's, those are not the rules of the road. Those are not the rules of the road. Defensive driving is not, and maybe I'm like not necessarily getting the definition of defensive driving, right? It's like ultra careful. Yeah. But which, in theory, sure. But those are not the rules of the road because green means go, babe.

Green does not mean slow down. Yes. Yellow means slow down. There's sort of this, like, in. between way to drive that it's like we have the people over here and over there it's like look at this point if it's like a yellow you need to like let the people you need to stop if you're going straight if it's a yellow you need to stop so that the people who are doing the left turn can do their left turn but they're doing it a little bit on red but are you guys going to speed through

and take the the yellow light well do you know about the if you're making So it depends. So I'm a little bit speed up on yellow. Well, I'm speed up on yellow too. But at a certain point, you have to stop so that the people can do a left-on rest. Of course. I think we can all make a gauge on that. They're going to take my license away.

By the way, I've done a full press store where every day I go, I can't drive. I close my eyes in the car. They're taking it away. They're revoking my license. No, because guess what? You just excavated the truth. But I have to ask you, if a Waymo is driving, isn't a Waymo driving safely? It is.

But then that's dangerous. No, but this is the thing. If it's all Waymos, then there's no problems. Then there's no problem. Unless the grid goes down. You thought about that? We should just walk more. Yeah, I agree.

Well, you know, when I first moved to L.A., I was walking from like Larchmont to WeHo. I walked everywhere. Everywhere. But you really, you quickly run out of gas on that. And my friends have moved to L.A. now. And they're like, I'm going out every night. I'm walking everywhere. I'm like, you've got three weeks on this.

Yeah. Three weeks on this. But yeah, I mean, you're certainly going to get your steps because it's not a walking city. Yeah. Like, you're not. And something that looks like a normal distance that you would have done in New York.

Oh, forget it. Two hours and you're going over an underpass and you're like, this is interesting. No. Are you driving a lot on the show? I am. That's a lot. That's got to be tough.

It's a, yeah. To drive. To drive. To drive. But we do sometimes have that thing where they put the car on the other. thing and they're dragging you. Yeah.

So you're just pretending to drive. That's my favorite. Yeah. And I'm like, how do you, my way? Do you feel good at that? Like, are you just like,

Oh, I can totally. Do you give, like, spontaneously like a this? I give, I almost give not looking at the road at all. I'm so focused on checking the blinkers as an actor that it looks like I'm not looking at the road. I'm doing, like, way too much action.

It's like, just sit there. Yeah. Just sit and deliver. I can't. I'm like this. No, you're being really professional about it. They take through the box, the little whatever that thing is, the hole in the between...

The hole in between the two car seats that you put your stuff in. We know her. The cup holder. But you're doing the equivalent of like an actress going on set being like, be fun of it was like opening in like a bottle or something. You know what I mean? Yes, I'm guilty of that sometimes where I'm like... It's so helpful.

What do we think of prop could be? Maybe I could have a plate of spaghetti. What's my business? They're like making a tuna sandwich. They're like, say the lines. Say the fucking lines. Because now you're making a tuna sandwich for six more hours. And we're all smelling it.

And props has to reset the tuna. You're thinking like a producer. Damn. Now I'm going in on multiple levels. Yeah. You have to. Being a Hollywood hot shot. You got to think of everything.

Okay, well, I love L.A. Sunday's at 10.30. By the way, HBO Sunday show. Come on. Like, chair company. I love L.A. Love. I was saying, like, this is the perfect duality.

It's actually hilarious. Me and Tim Robinson next to each other. When they do the photos of me getting laser hair removal next to Tim Robinson, I'm like, my sister. It's like me, like, on the thing like this. And Tim Robinson, like, in a suit, like... And I'm like, yes, my girl. HBO.

We would have it no other way. Oh, my God. To say we're proud of you as Pets. but like it's not at all it's exactly what I want to hear we're so we are so proud of you you've been fucking killing I love you guys so much I I literally we need to first of all host the Oscars again you need to join yeah guys bring us back and we'll pronounce the name is perfect and I just literally a joy to see you guys I know this is so great I'm so happy it's three safe people we can all get stoned with each other yes and y'all

and y'all behind and you and everyone behind the scene so I met this morning but I trust They're trustworthy. It'd be a vibe. All right. Well, we end every episode with the song. Allo, L.A. I wish, and here's a thing. Like, it was called that, and it is in the first episode.

And I was like, I realized I don't know any of the other words to this. I just know I love Lola. But I do love Allo-A. Remember Chris Jenner's version of it? Yes. Yes, of course. That's how I first knew about it. To listen to that stream, the Chris Jenner version of I Love L-A.

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The most anticipated guest from season three is here, The Trey to My Charlotte. Kyle McLaughlin joins me to relive all of the magical Trey and Charlotte moments. He reveals what he thinks of Trey giving Charlotte a cardboard baby and why he chose not to return to it just like that. You listen to Are You a Charlotte on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with

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