Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Eras, Renaissance... and MORE" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: June 7, 2023

A LOT is covered in this'un! Our London girls have seen the Eras Tour and the Renaissance Tour in between sips of gin and tonics and were also on DRAG RACE as guest judges! And while all of that went down, Vanderpump Rules was pumpin' and Succession was concludin'. And now Samantha is coming back to And Just Like That? The fuck?! Padam, PaDAMN! Matt & Bowen get into and out of every little nook and cranny of recent cultch on this episode. They talk, squawk and more. If you died tomorrow, at least you'll have heard this ep... but we hope you do not! BUY YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH HERE!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas calling. Wow. The first ever flop off a ding dong. Wait. Where did your brain go, Quina? I, just full transparency Matt and I had a beautiful pre-roll as in pre-recording

conversation not for you girls not for you girls to hear some things we keep sacred private and I just was kind of ricocheting into lost culture mode you know

and then so you started to say lost culture oh ding dong wow that's the first time we ever haven't done a ding dong in the clear

I think we flopped in the past have we? and there's been a couple of times and I think we just immediately choose to erase it

from our memory but it's like I think it's recorded do you think it's that thing of like so you know it's like when you do something a million times

then it's hard to keep fresh. Like one thing that's been popping up on the pod is we've been starting ding dong very high. And now it's like, we barely even did ding dong. Well, I think it's because our past couple of days have involved live music, screaming,

chanting along, dancing, jumping up and down, drinking wine and beer. Drinking wine, beer, sometimes canned gin and tonics. Can I say we're in London? Gin and tonic culture, it's alive. It's alive.

It's all over Europe. Honey, it's the most popular cocktail. It's actually roller coaster number nine. Gin and tonic is the most popular cocktail in London. In London. In Europe. But like gin is like huge. Gin is in London. In Europe. But like gin is like huge. Gin is in

Iceland. When we went to Iceland, it was just like this is a gin country. It's a gin town. Well, you know what my mother used to say? She's of course most famous for saying damn bird. But when I was in high school and I was like, she got the sense that I was starting to drink.

She was like, I don't want you drinking gin. And I was like, what? And I was like, where the fuck would I find gin? And she turned to me and she said, without a lot of irony at all, I think some, but she goes, gin is sin. Gin is sin. I don't disagree, witch.

Like she is like some sort of like Carrie's mother or something. Gin is sin. Gin is sin. Oh my God. And she's true. Because then I did, of course, when you give a mouse a cookie, when you tantalize a mouse with gin,

it's going to want to sin. It's going to want to sin. And so then I started getting into gin and I would say I've had some of my most sinful moments while drinking gin. Lately, I've had sinful moments. I've had sleepless moments. Sleepless?

I think the other week I had a gin drink before bed and then I couldn't sleep and I was like damn is that why I've been cause last night too I could not sleep at all what's going on mama I don't know well I think it's the jet lag famously when you sort of travel to another country that's something that's a risk you're on

but I have not been able to sleep have you been sleeping? I've been sleeping just fine actually soundful but it's taken? I've been sleeping just fine, actually. Soundful. But it's taken me... I've been here long enough where I've adjusted, and you might be leaving just as you feel. Yeah. Like you fully.

Well, I'm going back to LA tomorrow, which is going to be a 12.5-hour flight, so I'm going to, of course, watch at least 10 episodes of Vanderpump Rules. Now, you and I are approaching VPR. Let's just get into it. Let's get into it. And I bet you didn't think that

with everything we've gone through the past two weeks that we'd start with Vanderpump rules, but that is cultural impact right there. First of all, the counterpoint to jinnison is jinnisant, by the way. Jinnisant. Jinnisant. Not so jinnisant! Oops.

And I will say that you and I are taking two different approaches to Vanderpump, consuming Vanderpump. Oops. And I will say that you and I are taking two different approaches to Vanderpump, consuming Vanderpump. Yeah. I am doing the abridged syllabus. Yes, that was posted by Bravo TV. Instagram, shout out. And whoever curated that, well done.

Really good job. Perfect. Adjust the right amount of context. You get the exact right information. It's very important that you watch the Miami right information. It's very important that you watch the Miami Girl episodes. It's very important that you watch Sheena Shay's wedding. It's all happening part one. We didn't know it was part one at the time, but it was part one.

Tragic, tragic. And so I'm slowly crawling along. I'm not all the way caught up, but I did go ahead and watch the hashtag Scandal episode, last episode of season 10, and of course the two parts of the finale. And the way that I've gone about it is I just sort of jumped in this season and watched all of this season and then have gone back and sort of started from watching from the beginning. Yes. So we are both sort of caught up on the reunion.

In different ways. Yes, in different ways. In terms of how to talk about the Scandal Ball and Vanderpump Rules, we're very much there. Obviously, some of you, Katie's readers, publicists, finalists out there, have been with Vanderpump. Completists. Completists, have been along for the ride since day one.

We salute you. Soldiers. Soldiers, and talking to one such person, Aidy Bryant, the other day, she said, I've been watching every single episode. I can't believe this is how it's all paid off. Because she was watching Vanderpump Rules being like, why am I watching this?

Yeah. And now that she's finally like, this is why. And that's why you stick with things. Yes. Do you hear me? I want... Katie, stop. Pull over the car.

Put the baby down. This is why you stick with things, okay? If you're having any doubts about anything you're doing in your life, stick with it because there is a scandal at the end of the rainbow, okay? There really is. This is rule of culture number 30. Whatever you're life, stick with it. Because there is a scandal at the end of the rainbow. There really is. This is rule of culture number 30. Whatever you're doing, stick with it. Because there is a scandal at the end of the rainbow.

Period. Now pick the baby up, Katie. You have mothering to do. You have mothering to do. And we are over here doddering because we are being young girls consuming this show. You're in the middle of season two? I'm in the middle of season two.

So basically it's just come to light that it seems like Jax and Kristen fucked. And of course we find out they did. I've not met a young DJ James Kennedy in the show yet he comes in and sort of picks Kristen up where Tom Sandoval drops her. Ariana has come in as sort of, I don't know how to describe it,

but the coolest bartender in the world. Can I say, as a person who came up in restaurants, this show is crucial to me because it is such an accurate representation of career bartenders and

waitresses, and I'm sorry that that's sort of the vibe, all getting sort of into it together and being all in each other's shit. I remember there was a time in my life where I was like, I have to stop hanging out with everyone at this restaurant.

How could you not? Because it will get, it's very hard because you're all in each other's lives. But I know what it is, restaurant culture to take over your personal life. Yes.

And they allowed that to happen. And of course, it's beautiful for us. And also they got into reality television show where they had to continue it. But this is what happens when you make restaurant life your whole life. It is incestuous and it is perfect TV. This is

a perfect reality television show. 100% agree. Now, would you say that there's a missing element from your experience of like, there's no chef interaction. There's no kitchen interaction. This is where we have a missing area because i was gonna say because going into the kitchen and the drama between chefs and waitresses to say nothing of food runners to say nothing of food runners because

let me tell you bus people yeah bus people and you do see some busters and james kennedy comes in as a busser and i'm excited for that element because the power structure you see what I love is we get true manager drama Peter and also restaurant owner drama Lisa Vanderpump I didn't know there was this dimension but she really comes in and what

I love about Lisa Vanderpump is it's so consistently this I don't care get back to work perfect it is get back to work culture. She's like, what's going on? If it's a table, I care. If it's something with Jax, I don't care.

But it's always something with Jax. It's always something with Jax. But then it comes to a head with Kristen in season three, four. Oh, I cannot wait. You'll see. You'll see. It's so inspiring and wonderful.

You see LVP be like, you haven't gone back to work. I told you to get back to work so many times and you have not obeyed me. Yeah. That's it. You've LVP be like, you haven't gone back to work. I told you to get back to work so many times and you have not obeyed me. Yeah. That's it. You've disobeyed me.

Lisa Vanderpump is you've disobeyed me culture. And that's real culture number 50. Lisa Vanderpump is you've disobeyed me culture. So flashing forward, I know the bullet points. You know the bullet points. We're now in the second part of the Vanderpump Rules reunion.

And I have to say, not only is everyone involved in the central part of the Vanderpump Rules reunion and I have to say not only is everyone involved in the central triangle giving perfect reality television Sheena holding that white claw in that it's really all happening sweatshirt over her gown

scowling at the television because of a restraining order from the demon Raquel who we have thoughts about. Bowen has posited that maybe we need to lay off Raquel. No, no, no. It's not that. It's not exactly a devil's advocate. I think this is a good point.

But I was talking to some friends, sidebarring with some other friends, and I'm just going to say it. I don't think they would mind me saying this, which is one of my catchphrases as the readers have pointed out. I don't think they would mind me saying this, which is one of my catchphrases as, as, as the readers have pointed out. Yes.

I don't think they would mind me saying this, but Cecily and Sarah Sherman have both posited that it might be punching down, so to speak to shit on Rachel Raquel this much because she's dummy. She's dummy. And she was literally punched in the head. Yeah. And there, it might be again.

Yes. She was pushed. She was might be, again. I don't know. Was she punched? Yes. She was pushed. She was pushed. With a nail. Allegedly. Allegedly. And I actually believe,

Bowen is giving 3D, so don't move, I'm taking a photo. I'm trying. I'm doing it. I want you to know what I, I'm fanning, I'm tucking my thumb and I'm fanning my,

my fingers out. This is really, this is the cover of the episode this week is Bowen in 3D and it's going to be me in the back like the way he just reached out. I reached out to really put a period

to put a fine point on this. But Matt has rightly retorted with well she did ruin these people's lives. Here's the thing. If you're going to sign up for a reality show as a dumb person you're going to be responsible for the dumb shit you do in a major way, especially

when it's something this famous and impactful and something this egregious. I mean, the cuts to her in the trailer being like, I feel like now I'm watching this and I wish I had written her a note. I'm like, girl, you are... I'm starting to have regrets.

Like, you fucking fool. How dare you? It's unbelievable. Also, I have to say, who do you identify with in the show? Oh, that's so interesting. I think I know who you are.

Really? I think you're Katie. In a very powerful way. Thank you for saying that. I take that as a high compliment. It is. It's meant as one. And who do you identify with?

Lala Kent. 1,000%. You are Lala. You are the icon, Lala Kent. I feel as though every time Lala goes too far, I'm like, that's the way I would go too far. Every time Lala is Lala-ing, I feel like I identify with her rage in many aspects.

Yes. It's rage that just... Righteous anger when you your yourself our hands are not clean okay you are 1000 unequivocally lala yes i was gonna identify myself lightly until you said katie as maybe a sheena but maybe not just just someone who like i don't know sticks up for her friends no No, you definitely are. I think that you're Sheena Rising. But I'm ultimately Katie-san down. Katie because you have the dry intelligence

and you see it clearly. And the thing too is it's like over the bullshit. Finally over the bullshit. Fucking Schwartz. What a fucking little dweeb. I have to tell you, he bothers me more than Sandoval. Because Sandoval, it's like, we get it, we see it, we're over it. Schwartz, it's just like,

wow. When Katie was like, you're going to lose a lot of friends over this, he's like, I don't think so. It's like, no, yeah, and you deserve to, and if you do get them back, that fucking sucks. And he is like a roach in that way, where when you shine the light on him with his shit, he has to scurry away in the

most obvious dumbest way I'm like this is a dumb person yeah here's the thing is it's like I actually think he's even worse than that because I don't think he's dumb I think he plays dumb and I think he thinks it's cute I think he thinks like uh what do you mean I'm Schwartz everybody

loves me and it's like no dude and ultimately like you have been made this man's bitch and it's so embarrassing and i think that like sometimes like his intelligence does jump out a little bit and i'm like oh so you are playing dumb which makes it even worse yeah because you're trying to play in our face. I can't. I mean, that's what makes a great TV is that he's playing dumb, but he is ultimately smart enough to, he's smart enough, quote unquote, to like subjugate himself to Sandoval

in a way that is like really pathetic, but so interesting to watch. Every time he made this shit about him, like when he was sitting down with Ariana in the finale and he was like, I'm taking a beating man. And it's just like, you're talking to Ariana Maddox in this moment.

I was like, you have got to be kidding me. And also, of course, it's being edited to make it look like that. I'm sure he was a lot more contrite in the moment and the interaction. But like, Lord God, every time he said something about how his business is going to fail, it's like, yeah, what did you think was going to happen? His first response when Sandoval said, I'm having an affair with Raquel or something happened with Raquel was like, well, you need to end it because of our business. You fucking moron.

Like look, have some foresight for a second. Yeah. They need to buy him out. I think LVP and shorts should buy him out and go on a fucking apology tour. And that should be the next season of the show. Oh, interesting. That's what I

think. That's really good. Because I feel like, from what little I know, it feels like there's no coming back from this. Oh, no, no, no. For Schwartz and Sandy. Well, can I say, I'm gonna reveal this. I actually live very close to Schwartz and Sandy's. Yeah. And had gone there a few times. You've been.

Sudi and I went. I went a couple times, like times with other people. And let's just say it's haunted. The place is cursed. And it was already not that busy. Right. And I don't see how it can be more busy. When was the last time you...

So this is pre-Scandival. Yeah. You know what's crazy? It was happening amongst... Of course. A-punks. A- Of course. A punks. A punks. Wait a minute.

Matt came up with a new word. A new word alert. So, you know, when you are amongst people, you can also look uponst people. You can look uponst people. U-P-O-N-G-N-S-T. Is that how you spell?

I would say, take out the extra N. U-P-O-N-G-N-G-S-T. Correct. I don't know why I would throw that end in there. Sometimes you do. You could feel it upholstered to the space?

I looked upholstered to the space and even the other day, like when I walked to Gelson's just to pick some things up and I was like, wow, it is a haunted house. And I'm not saying much more about my own interactions with it, but well, first of all, I'll say it's sad because the food was actually good.

They actually figured out the menu. Yeah, good. I believed them. But you know, I believe I believe I believe that. Do you remember what you had? I'm not going to even go as far as to say what menu items I would recommend, because guess what? Coming in July, something about her. Something about her.

Sandwich shop on Robertson. And guess what I Coming in July, something about her. Something about her. Sandwich shop on Robertson and guess what I got for us? I got us two medium black crew neck sweatshirts that say something about her. So thankful. And I'm giving you the other one. I got one for myself and one for you. And suffice it to say this,

this is an open invitation. Oh. Katie Maloney and Ariana Maddox. Please come on the pod I've had let's just say a DM conversation with Katie where there's interest and listen listen Ariana

she's busy she's getting that check God bless her and I keep bringing this up I keep dining out on this on the pod but we had a lovely chat lovely time together at Upfronts. Last year's Upfronts. Last year's Upfronts, where she was so

sweet. I was like, I had not watched Vanderpump. She was like, we were talking for a bit, and then she goes, and she did not ask me this outright. She was like, do you know who I am, basically? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, she was like, do you watch Vanderpump? And I was like, I'm so sorry, I don't. Yeah. She goes, eh, it's fine, whatever. Like, she was just so, like... She was just checking in to make sure.

Totally. She wanted to get a temperature check. And then we just immediately moved on from that. Had a lovely conversation. She, of course, obviously loves sketch comedy. Yes! She takes it very seriously. And then I asked a question on

Watch What Happens Live. I DM'd a question in and they asked it. And she said, I love Matt Rogers twice, which made me feel very seen. And I just want to say back, we see y'all. We see y'all. And we're not saying you need our help at all for the opening of the store, any promo at all.

You couldn't be more in the zeitgeist, but we want to be a part of it. I'm going to be coming anyway. We're coming no matter what. We'd love to have you in for a nice little chat, fun hang, it'd be a part of it. I'm going to be coming anyway. We're coming no matter what. We'd love to have you in for a nice little chat, fun hang. It'd be a fun hang guaranteed. And then guess what? It coincides with the occasion

of something about her. And there's something about this opportunity that could be right. I don't know. But okay. So in a way to sort of transition, but also give a last thought on Vanderpump, i want to say that my snatch game is dj james kennedy 1000 good so inspired i'm not ready to do any part of it right

now because i've sort of discovered that my british accent here in london is james kennedy it's not sort of getting better i would say it is you think so do you think do you think it's a bit shit in it it's a bit shit it's a bit shit you're joking you're joking you're think do you think it's a bit shit isn't it it's a bit shit isn't it it's a bit shit you're joking you're joking you're joking

are you daft are you daft okay so I asked some British people do people here say are you daft and they were like maybe old people

yeah oh they said old people we were told very very in no uncertain terms that core blimey is has gone it's out

it's out it's been out core blimey core blimey has gone. It's out. It's been out. Cor Blimey! Cor Blimey. See, but I love it though. Bloody, people still throw around Bloody and I never really, Bloody to me seems like a little too on the nose. Yeah, Bloody.

Bloody Brilliant. Bloody Brilliant. Bloody Brilliant in that. It's Bloody Brilliant, isn't it? Smashed it. Smashed it. Knackered. Knackered. You're bloody brilliant in that. And then... It's bloody brilliant, isn't it? Smashed it. Smashed it. Knackered. Knackered. You're right, babes.

You're right, babes. Yeah, good. You okay? Yeah, good. Yeah, good. Coffee. Coffee. Oh, should we...

What? So get this. The other night, we're going out to the bar to watch... We watched Drag Race at Two Brewers. Yes. So I go early, bones working, filming the film and i go with matt whittaker our dearest and we go to because i want to see yes the rupals drag race episode that we guessed out in the wild so we go to two brewers yeah in chapham clapham clapham clap. And we get there and there's six to ten people there. I said, this is

fine. I walk in and it's like exactly when I'm coming on to do the snatch game. And then fast forward to Bowen gets there, etc. We're leaving the bar. Who walks up? Tia Coffey herself. Tia Coffey herself

perplexed. Perplexed. Like, what? I just watched you guys on the episode. She's like, what are you guys doing here? We're like, what are you doing here? And then we turn to our right and there is the legend.

Sum Ting Wong. Sum Ting Wong. Two Drag Race UK fucking legends. We scream. We scream. We were absolutely. You and Whitaker full on doing the Alan Turing typing. We did.

We literally, I looked at Tia Coffey and all I could do was type. Was type. And I was like, Boehm was like, you were ashamed. You were like, how many people do this to her? I was not ashamed. I was like, all I said was, I mean, you two literally did the thing that she like immediately kind of like rolled her eyes out and was like, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, that is what I did, isn't it? Like how many thousands of faggots have gone up to Tia Koffing and typed? It's iconic though. It is so iconic. And it's like, you know what it is? It's like when Lady Gaga came out with Bad Romance.

Yeah. And that's always going to be like her big song. It's like Britney Spears, Baby One More Time. Yeah. Tia Kofi is typing. Is typing.

And that's just. It's just going to be it. And she could not have been lovelier. She said, are you guys going to hoopla we said we have tickets for sunday we'll get into hoopla later we had a blast a most amazing time should we talk about drag race now or should we talk about well uh so then i turned i turned to bowen and i said i'm tia coffee and you're something wrong and bowen said that's the most racist thing

you've said to me in years in a very in a lightly in a light way in a light way I said that's the most racist thing you said to me in years and it was it really was it really was um Drag Race

Drag Race let's just say we've been sitting on this one sitting on a secret sitting on a secret we went into that episode we were invited to be guest judges

on the Snatch Game of Love episode it was more fun than it looked it was so much more fun than it looked surreal I mean you know what to me like if you thought this just on the Snatch Game of Love episode. It was more fun than it looked. It was so much more fun than it looked. Surreal.

I mean, you know what? To me, like, have you thought this? I can't believe that was two days of shooting. It felt like one continuum of time. Yeah. A blur. Can we say it is such a happy set? Everyone's loving their life.

And they also, we should say, we got there like right, I think it was two days after they had received like another boatload of Emmy nominations. Right. So the vibes were good. The Queens were, well, it was a weird day. Heidi was there. We were told all the Queens' Snatch Game impressions.

Yes. I see Heidi doing Blackbeard. I go, that's really interesting and funny. Yeah, so the peek behind the curtain is Bowen is sitting watching it. I'm watching Matt's Snatch Game round. He's watching my round. So I hear him cackle at the Jimbo tap dance.

I can't see. I have no idea what's going on. But all I hear is Rue and Matt guffawing. You don't understand. It definitely read on television because everyone's talking about how funny it was. Watching Jimbo do that tap dance and the how funny it was watching Jimbo do that tap dance and the whole performance.

But watching Jimbo do the tap dance in person, especially because it's so quiet in the room. You have to imagine like no other sound except the sound of Rue screaming laughing at this justifiably. And also

to say nothing of, Ru was screaming dying at Alexis Michelle's Be Arthur, too. Oh, yeah. Loved Be Arthur. But the Shirley Temple and the Be Arthur were great, but the Shirley Temple tap dance, one of the funniest things I have seen ever. It's so clown school. It's so

québécois. It's so Canadian. It's literally Jimbo came up doing that. And it's like, God, it's literally Jimbo like came up doing that. Yeah. And it's like God, like it's perfect to marry that into drag. I was dying because you're on the other side of the sugar wall not being able to see it. Your mouth is like open like because you knew

something was happening, but you could not possibly see what. Right. Everyone on set is screaming. And then so what happens is I sort of had, let's just say it was like a, I had like a flop group. I thought James was, James was great. And it was a little unfair.

So great. I think it's like, okay, let's say sure, every gay man has a Jennifer Coolidge impression. She made it work for Snatch Game in a way that was like, great.

Like she reacted to everything that was thrown at her. She was so funny. I mean, whatever. She was great. Well, also remember that this happened last July.

Pre-White Lotus season two. Pre-White Lotus season two. So it was like both a perfect like timing thing because now she's like uber famous. But also at the time it was not as okay Jennifer Coolidge as it is now. But she was clearly the winner of that group. Agreed. And was great. But watching your group was like

they crushed it. So much fun. I mean, even like, you know, I guess if the fourth place out of that was like La La Ria's Sugiyama, like it was still like a wonderful slay. Yes, yes. I love Candy. Candy was great. The cut to Candy looking at Jimbo up and down while the tap

dance was happening with the cigarette in her mouth. I was like that's really good. Candy had jokes. Like, like Ruby. I'm like, you can call the feds. And then candy goes,

you tell me you're the one Mike. Really good. It was good. I mean, it was great. So we did our little lip sync. They showed about a third of it. We did do the whole Roxandra's verse.

Yes. To read. You wrote you. And then that was over in like two hours, right? Two and a half hours. That was a shorter day. That was a shorter day. And then it's the main stage day

that is the full eight, nine hour experience. It's really wild. Really wild, really fun. Again, silent soundstage. Yeah. Silent soundstage. Amazing to be there in person, though. It is true.

They do two walks each. One with the track, one without so that we can just say our little quips. Ross Matthews was next to us. So lovely. So lovely. So helpful. So helpful. Ross was like, okay, so this is what happens. And gave us the download. And thank God because

no one really told us the ins and outs, like the T. He goes, okay, so they're going to go with the music and then you just write down your little jokes or whatever. Like, and he goes just like, you know, let Michelle go first.

Let Michelle go first. That was right. Because Michelle was a machine. She set the tone with those puns. And Rue was also unreal. And Ross was of course amazing. Like they, correct me if I'm wrong.

Like that was like one of the highlights of the day was hearing how quick they were with all of those puns and jokes. Like, it is good, good, good, good, good, good. Yep. And it is, like, you and I just having to, like, get in there, and it reminded me of, like, any, like, writer's room. Yep. Where it's, like, you just gotta, like, find the right opening. Yep. But it was, like, that

time, I, like, sped up to, like, a thousand. Yep. It's like, okay, you gotta just really just let me write in. in. And it was so fun. And Michelle is definitely head judge vibes. You fall right in line. And also, you know, we were saying the tea when she was talking on Broadway. It was giving Michelle Visage

We were talking about Funny Girl. That was when Funny Girl was going down. She had thoughts on everything. It was pre-Leah starting. But it was right as things were like transitioning from yes to leah so very interesting to be on the ground for that tea and then they tell us oh they tell us before so by the way while bowen did not get to see jimbo in person they in the beginning of the day we see like an already edited version of the show

yes yeah which was interesting they like put it together they were like so this is what we put together of yesterday so you guys can have seen snatch game so we did get like a complete view of the whole snatch so that we could critique fairly right then they say heidi has chosen to leave for mental health reasons and the queens are like shook so we were just like moving forward and um yeah watched the runway did the whole thing it is so quiet you're right it is so even during the lipstick assassin reveal when that thing is going it is nothing it's so funny silent silent just like all the lights are going but you have to in your brain be like oh my god like oh rue also walks the runway to silence yes

which was hilarious um and they do the whole bit and then yeah jasmine kennedy came out crushed it when they do a death drop the sound that the floor makes is so jarring and we turned to ross and we're like is it like that every time and ross goes every time it's always scary wow i don't remember him saying that i was like does is it like that every time? And Ross goes, every time. It's always scary. Wow. I don't remember him saying that. I was like, does it sound like that every time? Every time. Oh, wow. Just like the sound of like a body hitting the floor.

Not like a fun death drop moment. It was the sound of a body slamming to the floor. On fucking like a vinyl tile or whatever it is, you know. Mayhem Miller did our hair and makeup oh my god what a fucking gem legend we love her so much she made us look it's you know it's the filter on the camera on the lens beat us down but we were beat down and i mean i've never looked bronzer i mean

and i loved it yeah it was here's what i'll say to everyone being like they were glowing radiant we were beat to hell by a drag queen and had rupaul's lighting yes i that's i mean that's all there is what else do you want like and i wish we could say that's how we looked no it will never be again it will never be again that's okay that's okay also i was absolutely dying of shigella oh my god i can't you reminded me and I- That was- I remember this. Rita's will remember when we came back from Fire Island last year. Oh my god. I was talking about how sick I was, how I

had interactions with gay men that led to me being sick. Understand, we shot this episode of Drag Race a week later. I was so ill. Bone and I were sharing a trailer. I felt so bad for you because i was i had i wanted to make sure you were okay i had the runs down like i was like dehydrated for a week leading up to it it was the fact that we were able to pull me together for that was while

i was really upset because i was like am i gonna have to like cancel cancel Drag Race because I'm this sick? I'm telling you, we barely made it. No one would be able to tell. Because of the power of lighting and hair and makeup. And Michael Fisher dressed us down. Thank you, Michael. Thank you, King. That's a little peek behind the curtain. I was dripping with

sweat every second, like dying, dying, dying. Dying, dying. In a way where you're like god i i hate hate hate that feeling of when you're sick dehydrated just like emptying yourself yeah so often from either end that you go i didn't know i had this much content yeah i was i was creating content all day i really was and basically like we made it through. I think my body was not allowing me to fuck up that moment. I was like, we were

making it through. I mean, thank God we did because that was as much of a life highlight as it looked like. And like I said, everyone was so nice and I heard a little bit about the rest of the season and I heard it's great. And I mean, give it up for what

i'm gonna call one of the best drag race performances in a single episode ever by jimbo love i mean that runway that runway i mean describe what it was like watching it come down the runway it was hard it was hard we were like literally we were like what the fuck are we looking at and then as soon as she turned, all of us on the judges' table screamed. Screaming. Because I really thought for a while that was her face. Right. I don't know how to describe. It looked

just like weird makeup on her face unless she was moving her head in a weird way. That's how effective it was in person. So effective. The feet, the bend in the knees looking completely unnatural in person. So effective. The feet, the bend in the knees looking completely unnatural to the point where you're like,

is this something wrong with her? But within the realm of possibility being like, wait, what's happened? And then the turn. I mean, the two reveals. Because then the snake popping out of the apple was lovely. I mean, when you put that together with that Snatch Game, it's a lovely. I mean, when you put that together with that Snatch Game,

it's a wrap. I mean, that was the only part of the episode I was like, there was a lack of surprise and suspense because I kind of knew they weren't going to eliminate someone when Heidi had left early. Definitely a slam dunk win for Jimbo. And also, we saw Jasmine earlier in the day. You did. I didn't see her. I think I did see

her because I was like, oh, look. I think I told you. I was like, it's Jasmine. You were like, oh my God, really? And I was like, yeah, for sure, because she's here. And there's no other reason for her to be here. Because I think we were told all the queens that had been there and had been eliminated. Or were we? Well, we were told

yes, we were told. And then we literally saw Darian, like, pass us. For the fame games. For the fame games. Yeah. And we got to wave at her. We waved at Darian.

We loved her. I was bummed that she was out. Like, I was like, I would have loved to have seen her, but, you know. Yeah, me too. I mean, no regrets. That was,

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Okay, let's talk about our concert going experiences. Maybe what you're all here for because can you even believe the like the couple weeks that we've had that like that wasn't even the first thing that we jumped into the fact that we saw eras and renaissance in the last two weeks you being on the floor for both of those and relatively the same spot weirdly you were on this yes you were like stage you were staged left yeah on the floor for both shows yes well i slay so let's should we do eros first chronological yeah the eros tour a feat of stamina oh a feat of i mean a showcase of songwriting masterclass everyone in that stadium oh my god best friends with each other best friends with

each other the friendship bracelets that was so cute so cute i mean we met so many lovely people who um just came up to us gave gave us taylor swift bracelets i had one that was just karma is a cat bead i got that one too actually so. So cute. That one was really, really cute. No, people were like, the energy in the stadium was definitely, and yes, it was MetLife Stadium, and we'll get to that. We'll get to that. But it was so,

like to use the words of Ilana Glazer on this podcast, there was a thick joy in the stadium. We got there, we decided to get there a little bit late, so we caught the last half of Ms. Bridgers. Then we get there and Taylor from 7.55pm to 11.25pm

I guess, just gives three and a half hours of the Erez tour. This was... The only way I can describe it is it's the fucking world's biggest pop star showcasing the most coveted, impressive library of pop music. And it really didn't feel like anything was super missing. Like I didn't, if anything, like speak now stuff, if anything, yes, speak now, I would have loved to hear like sparks fly.

We said, but also the surprise songs we got welcome to New York, which I could see some people around me being like, okay, we got Welcome to New York. I was thrilled. I was thrilled with Welcome to New York. We got Welcome to New York and Clean, which before the end of Clean, there were some people around me who were like, she's doing first track of 1989 and last track.

Is she about to announce something? Yeah, it did feel like that. And then, but it did not come to pass. She did not. Lovely. I mean, when she announced Clean, we collapsed. We collapsed.

We had a physical collapse into each other. It was, it was, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe it because she did debut a rule for herself that she has set,

which is, she's allowed to repeat a song if she either messed up a lyric or if she feels like she could have done it better. And I feel like I could have done this in a higher key. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. We got most of the 1989 album, I guess.

We did. And we famously saw 1989 world tour there years and years ago. Do you have highlights? I mean, there were so many, but what are your highlights? So many. I loved Cruel Summer. I love that she set up Cruel Summer she took a moment to like address the crowd before the

bridge she goes we've arrived at our first bridge of the night yes let's cross it together oh my cross I mean scream and then we all screamed we scrum and then highlight for me was folklore folklore felt huge that was

one thing when it first came out. I remember us talking, by the way, we iconically first listened to folklore in Greta Teitelman's home and when the girls were talking and we were like, you guys need to stop talking. Sudi and Greta were trying on outfits and showing us in the living room. This isn't a fashion show.

This isn't the time. This is not a fashion show. Folklore is on. In Greta's home. In someone elseta's home and someone else's home someone else's home we were making world i feel like weren't we always saying though like how is this gonna feel she's not gonna be able to do an intimate concert of this right don't worry if you haven't seen it yet folklore feels massive yeah and the bridge of illicit affairs yeah i turned to you and you were like wow she really fit that one in there I can't even tell you it felt like the Superbowl

I loved that in your Instagram caption it was major and we keep saying Betty I love that song so much might be my favorite off of well it's hard between Betty, August, and Mirrorball

I was missing Mirrorball from that set list no problem I think she's done it. It was, I think, one of the first surprise songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was a highlight. I loved Reputation. Reputation was just as major as you think it's going to be. When the snake starts coming on the back wall,

you're like, absolutely. It was like the energy picked back up again. It was like a new concert started. It was a new concert. That's one thing i'll compliment her on is like every era felt extremely vivid and its own thing like it was like it was almost like it was like nine or ten isolated concerts in that way like really smart i think to start with lover because it's light out and it feels like that energy picks it up. It's like we're doing it

as the sun is setting and by the time it's reputation, there's not a light in the sky. It's the damn, we're at the fucking sex dungeon. Yes. And approaching midnight for Midnight. Yes. Which went really hard.

Midnight, I was not Yes. Which went really hard. Midnight's, I was not expecting to love live that much. Fucking Bejeweled. LGBTQIA plus recruitment song. Actually, I'm upset that Bejeweled is not nominated for the Diplo Award for LGBTQ.

That's a mistake on our part in terms of the campaign timeline, in terms of the nominations announcement timeline. Yes, that was a mistake on our part. We'll get into the awards later. Yes, and there's some things you need to know about the awards. There's some songs you need to get off book for. There's some things you need to prepare.

But I'll say this, the witchiness of Evermore being leaned into, I think really helped to distinguish it from folklore. Yes, yes, yes. Because there's a stark difference between Evermore and folklore, which you didn't express. Like Evermore felt like darker. Yes, yes.

And folklore felt, I'm just going to say the most basic word, lighter. It just felt folksier. Yes. Evermore is witches. Folklore is, I'm going to say, this doesn't quite feel right, but fairy. Yeah, nymph.

I was going to say nymph. Yeah, yeah, yeah. fairy. Yeah, nymph. I was going to say nymph. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dryad. Yes. In the woods. The burning house into Fearless. Oh my god. Love. Love it. Fearless was also a moment. Red, to say nothing of Red. I mean, maybe we're just taking Red for granted at this point because

Red also had, Red was like a featured moment of the show. It was like an extended moment of the show. The 10 minute all too well, it does exactly what you think it's going to do. It unifies. It unifies. She is in a fucking Red sequined trench

coat, I want to say. Some kind of cape situation. It just looks like that stage picture is wow. It's huge. And then Blank Space, I mean, widely like that stage picture is wow yeah it's it's huge and then um blank space i mean widely agreed upon by many many authoritatively musical people that one of the best pop songs ever written i mean it's it's effervescent it lifts it is one of the great moments of concert going history when you listen to Blank Space

amongst the girls uponst the girls when Blank Space falls uponst the girls it fell uponst us and I knew that Taylor was looking uponst us and feeling very proud of what she had accomplished there also like shake it off crushed it

I was dancing like a gay man I really was and I looked over and you were being it I was dancing like a gay man to it I really was and I looked over and you were being gay I was being gay we were both being pretty gay during the show

throughout yes while the stream was into bad blood and I'm not even a bad blood super stan no but it was fun

it was so fun fun little moment and then getting out of MetLife was pure hell cruel cruel but we

we were lucky we were like we were lucky. We were out of there. It was not chromatical ball level. No. And we were just listening to tunes in the car. We were listening to some Maisie Peters tracks. And we were actually listening to an upcoming album.

We were listening to an upcoming album. We got to listen to an upcoming album. And more on that soon. More on that soon. Let's talk about about we're going to be seeing renaissance tour we're lucky enough to see renaissance tour twice we're going to see it at metlife again let's talk about renaissance in london at time and first of all wonderfully run venue oh my god this was if compared to metlife this was like I was at Disney. It was as if... Okay, so getting into MetLife was like

trying to get a reservation at the invite-only Cipriani's, and getting into Tottenham was... Walking into McDonald's. Walking into McDonald's. Eating the best meal of your life. Walking into McDonald's at like, I don't know, 1pm on a weekday. It was like, yeah, no one's here. Or no, it's

everyone's here, but everyone's able to get to a touchscreen. Exactly. on a weekday. It was like, yeah, no one's here. Or no, it's everyone's here, but everyone's able to get to a touchscreen. Exactly. You know? And I mean, this was... So we get there. We're not seated together. We're not seated together. Bone was up in the nosebleeds.

Still a perfect view. Still a perfect view because this show could be bigger. It is pure spectacle. She's one of our... No, not one of our. She is our best, our greatest living performer.

And people being like, Taylor or Beyonce, what was better? Don't even go there. You can't compare. It's apples and oranges. It is actually the definition of apples and oranges. They should start saying Beyonce and Taylors. Say that.

That's a rule of culture. That's a rule of culture. That's a rule of culture. What is it again? It's rule of culture number 24. Apples and oranges, they should start saying Beyonce's and Taylor's. Because Taylor was, like I said, world's biggest pop star presenting her

and showcasing her library. Beyonce Renaissance was let me get the ballots out of the way and we're going to turn this into the fucking club. World's greatest performer and most important artist giving the Renaissance Ball an installment in her career. It didn't

feel like cumulative, although it was. It felt like, I'm doing the Renaissance Ball. And it was rumored that she was going to come out and be her own opening act she comes out chooses both the most perfect songs to open with and also the most random songs to open with dangerously in love into flaws and all into one plus one into a cover of i'm going

down into i care with some tina Proud Mary ballad version. Tina Turner. River Deep Mountain High. River Deep Mountain High. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. A beautiful rendition. Unbelievable. Such an unexpected, original interpretation of that song. And then, fully in her Vegas residency

gown. Yep. She's changing up the looks each show, but each show is giving, like, I could do a Vegas residency if I wanted. If I wanted to, if I ever deigned. And what I find really nice about Renaissance, about the Renaissance tour is that

if I'm going to compare it to Formation, Formation was her being like, I'm doing stadiums now. Let me give you everything. And it was just intense like everything out of fucking 14 big big big big big big and this i feel like was let me just give you looks gags fun everyone is having a good fucking time it was a party it was a fucking party in a stadium like that i'm like chromatical ball wasn't even necessarily giving that like

chromatical ball was like this is years in the making like i i'm finally getting to tour with this renaissance tour was like let's just have fucking fun it somehow and maybe it's because the ga that i was in was like entirely standing room and it was like a dance party down there it somehow really made the entire stadium feel like a dance floor and that is like the best compliment i can give it it was to say nothing of like how much of the stadium she seemed to use like it was like a 360 experience in a way the camera being in the skies the way she would find the camera in the air just like truly no one is capable of this. I mean,

it's hard to even say highlights because the whole thing felt like the Renaissance album, like a continuous party. But I would say this section, what we're calling the red section, she started with formation and went through a black parade. My power block parade. Oh my God.

Into fucking Savage, I think. Yeah, Savage. The woman rode out on a tank while her daughter is the most unbothered child to ever live. Can you even imagine? And people, can I say, people online being like,

Blue Ivy Carter is not slaying. You weren't there. You weren't there. You weren't there. It's actually an unbothered slay she's hitting every fucking move but she's going she's giving you like nothing in the face in a way that is so fucking perfect perfect and so and she's also leading this huge like processional behind her and you're looking right at her and it is i mean it's it's way more impressive than i think the stupid tiktoks and videos are making it out to be always gonna dull

and dilute it like yeah of course you're not gonna get the same experience watching it from your fucking phone no no like it is something else to be there and then the moment that got me was huge round of applause for blue like they like shown the light on blue everyone's losing their minds just living for this little girl yeah cuts to beyonce on the big camp yeah the proudest look i've ever glowing glowing and she says everybody say hey miss carter and what i as as blue's leaving and everyone says hey miss carter and then my favorite thing is she goes right into fucking partition so she's like now my daughter's gonna leave and i'm gonna get into my big slut moment and she goes do i have any partition fans in the audience as if anyone would dare not be the biggest partition fan she gave partition

as blue is exiting and then i believe it was into savage so she was like now that my daughter's not here let me let my pussy into the wind yeah oh my god who that is a fucking catalog oh period i mean just like and also to say nothing of the set list too was just perfection because then she gives love on top and she lets the audience go into the key changes and she's just like helping out. And she's like, yes. And then it explodes into crazy in love and you didn't see it coming. And then she just begins her stomp, does original choreo. It just takes you back to 2003. Yeah.

What I remember, like, not only the music video, obviously, but also that that iconic song which is like still like we said earlier like you know like it's that thing of like tea and coffee will always be typing like lady gaga will always be bad romance like beyonce has done beyonce since that but still crazy in love is still that moment that we will always remember and i'll just never forget watching her performing on the vmas that year years and years and years never forget watching her perform it on the VMAs that year, years and years and years ago. And watching that original choreo, I used to fast forward it, rewind it, just watch it again and again and again.

And just to see her do that original choreo again, I was like, my God, this is like standing the test of time in such a way. And to your point about her finding the cameras, I think she knows her stage picture at all times. Like no one else. It's so wild. Yeah. She knows exactly how she looks in every single moment.

Yes, she does. Oh! I mean, every track of Renaissance was perfect. I mean, highlights include... I mean, Alien Superstar, obviously. Fucking Move was incredible. Move was perfect. I mean, highlights include, I mean, Alien Superstar obviously. Fucking Move was incredible. Move was amazing. Pure Honey, just like the

Vogue section of that, like the ball section of that was so unbelievable to watch. Her dancers are fucking phenomenal. It's just, and she has never, and this is obviously like, it's like you have to toss your hands up and say this, but like, never looked more beautiful.

Never looked more beautiful. It's insane. I know. I know. Mm. I mean. And sounded perfect. Giving us a live vocal start to finish.

A million notes. Like never lost. I know. Never lost it. Duh. Duh. But like, I mean,

and so I would say, so how many times have you seen her? I started with Mrs. Carter. Yeah, so I saw one before that. I saw the four at Roseland, which I do have to always say will always be my favorite because it was the most intimate. It was so intimate and so small

and it was just unreal because I believe that was like formative for me at the time. This was unreal. I mean, it's the Renaissance tour. It gave everything. It gave everything it gave everything heated yeah the only time she dropped quote unquote any like lyric or anything was heated where she literally like before the song before she goes into the song she goes y'all won't help

me on unheated because like i get two words in to like that you know that end section and it like and i start to run out of breath and there's no way any one person can do that whole section without running out of breath live but meanwhile like we know every fucking word god I fucking love that song she also I have to say like one of the highlights for me was break my soul into like the Vogue remix of break my soul

which she gave also the whole thing and like all the names came up on the back wall by the way just claps and a standing ovation to the crew of both of these shows. I mean, the unreal production value, the robots,

the robotics in the Beyonce show, just the Metropolis vibes of it all. Beyonce being like... Truly, when she comes out for the for after she opens the show she comes out and she's like encased in like metallic silver and these robots literally remove pieces of her garment so she can come out and like perform it is it's so surreal

to watch and it's just so perfectly realized. And she is holding the center the entire time. I mean, it's just... We're very lucky that we got to see these performers. We went to Mighty Hoopla the day after. Big queer music festival in the UK and London. Brockwell Park in Brixton. It was so much fun.

As if we needed to be more blissed out. I know. It was just a lovely experience. We saw Dagny. Dagny was incredible. That's another like, keep your eye on this one. The live vocal on her, wow. That is like pop perfection. That is just like, I mean,

what else do you want? Scandinavian clean pop. Yeah. Not clean. Clean as in just like these melodies are like fucking razor sharp. And perfect pop voice. I mean, just really that girl. Then we went over and we saw Tuva Styrka. Tuva Styrka.

Who like, I love that she's just gotten like really queer and messy. So I've been a fan of hers for years now. And I think she's so, so, so wonderful. Everyone should check her out. But she has this song called Say My Name. Not in reference to Beyonce or Destiny's Child. Wonderful songs. And that was like a different, smaller venue.

And then we saw Confidence Man, who were goofy, fun, stupid, weird. And I use all those words lovingly. And then we saw Jake Shears. Jake Shears. Just lovely. What an incredible, iconic energy. Looking just as good as day one one so fun so fun and then we um went to a dance party under a tent called swift to get in yes we did we went to something called swift to get in it was another hour as if we needed more taylor we just

heard those same songs again with hundreds and hundreds of British Swifties who were all equally excited to be there screaming all 10 minutes of the all too well 10 minute version. Everyone was off book. Yes, we did experience Swift again in post-Eris tour and we will be seeing the Eris tour again.

So that is where we are at. Yes, it's going to be a summer of music. I'm sure I'll end up at one of the madonna shows i really would like to go i think it's i think it's worth as our experiences are general i'm saying like our as in like everyone's experience with madonna live lately has been okay i guess we're waiting around for an hour and a half longer than we thought we would yeah but no problem. It's Madonna. Apparently, We Hold Pride was very giving.

We missed it. But Jessie Ware apparently killed it. Idina was there. I'm going to go next week. I'm seeing Megan Thee Stallion Friday and then Mariah Saturday. Oh my God. I had heard that Idina was told several times

to leave the stage because her set was over and she just kept singing. You know what? Eat. Yeah. Let it go. And here's what I'd say to anyone talking to Adina to get off the stage. Let it go. We love Adina, but there are videos out there of her bailing out on the last

note of what? Yeah, but you know what though? Good. Good. Because you know you can't. She did the last note of Defying Gravity. She did. She tried. She can't. She did The Last Night of Defying Gravity. She did. She tried. She did it. She did it. And it's growth within a set to be like,

for Let It Go, for Stormrage On, I'm going to throw the mic over to the audience. I'm giving it to you gays. I'm giving it to you gays. Because you know what also that does? It says, oh, you gays think you can do it? Try. Go ahead. Here's the mic. If you gays think you can do it? Try. Go ahead. Here's the mic. If you gays think you can do it. Some of them can.

Very few of them can. And they all try. Have we established Idina Menzel as a base on this podcast? Idina is a base. Is that one of the rules of culture? And also, you know, Adele Dazeem is the number one moment in her culture history. So Idina has a massive place in the culture.

Her move to gay icon and pride performer and pride staple I think is long overdue. We should also say, we did see her perform her new single, You Better Move For Me! at the GLAAD Awards. And she did present us in Fire Island.

And we gave her a huge hug and she emanates. She emanates. And I would say, unfortunately for Move, we haven't yet talked about it yet on this podcast, but there is a song of the summer. There is a queer staple. It is a nominee for record of the year. It is Padom Padom.

Padom Padom, which I think people are already trying to be like, oh, we're oversaturated. No, they need to stop. No. You must just accept the fact that this song is, will be with us forever.

I mean, when you say param, I go param. Period. Period. That's actually Real Culture number eight. When you say param, I go param. Period. And that is, that is forever. Padam is forever.

Padam is on the same level of staying power as Diva Down, We Need a Medic Boots. It's as if Dr. Roberta Bobby wrote the song. It's Dr. Roberta Bobby. It is, hi Diva, may I call you Diva? My name is Detective Fierce. You're not in trouble, Boots. We're just trying to get the tea on the situation. It is part of the lexicon

of queerness. Get on board or else, faggot. The train is leaving the station and it's headed to Pan Am. I'm hearing rumors that Suzanne Collins is rewriting the Hunger Games books to change Pan Am to Pan Am. That's a rumor.

I'm hearing rumors. I am. Iam. That's a rumor. I'm hearing rumors. I'm hearing rumors. I am, I am. You are a reporter. I'm a reporter. You are. You really are. You break the news. I'm hearing rumors.

Padam! It came on at Hoopla. I hear it and I know. And we all activated. You don't even understand what happened at Mighty Hoopla when Padam came on. The dance floor was dead.

Then it filled. I don't know what to happened at mighty hoopla when param came on the dance floor was dead then it failed i don't know what to say we were literally walking to the urinals and param came on and we had to stop are you guys excited to see param param performed at the lost culture awards we might be getting a big special guest to come perform Might perform. Pa-dum, pa-dum. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies?

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an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Okay, let's talk about the awards okay so now by now you know that all of the lost culture racist culture awards nominees have been announced um the campaign starts now if you feel that you have a strong instinct as to what should win these categories you need to be publicist yes you need to get going i need to see fy. I need to see FYC. I need to see us being tagged. I need to see

you interacting with each other. I need to see campaigns. I need to see campaigns. I need to see a Photoshopped picture of a billboard. Period. Yes. I want to see a banner on the street. I want to see a pamphlet that you design. I just

want to see you pamphlet that you design. I just, I want to see you guys activate. Because otherwise, if you don't vote, period. Period. If you don't vote, what do you think is going to happen? You are not going to feel like a part of this award show if you don't vote. If you don't, in the words of Idina Menzel, move for me. You better move for me. Now, what do you have to say about these being the frontrunners?

The most nominated. The most nominated. I'm sorry. Yes, the most nominated. We have Doja Cat. Yes. Bacon Thunder. Oreo Cookies.

Breathe by Faith Hill nominated in multiple categories. This was not something I saw coming this year. I did not think that Breathe by Faith Hill was going to be one This was not something I saw coming this year. I did not think that Breathe by Faith Hill was going to be one of the record of the year nominees. And then, you know, when it was, I was sort of like, yeah, I get it. Because if you listen to it again, and I do want everyone listening to it again,

you do realize, actually, it's one of the most important songs of the year. It is one of the most important songs of the year. And then you go, and then you look down the list, and you see Santa Award for Being Unforgettable Breathe by Faith Hill. Up against some tough competition.

Yeah. But, you know, I don't think anyone saw this coming and I guess as a Record of the Year nominee, it will be performed at the awards. Interesting. Now, speaking of other Record of the Year nominees that will be performed at the awards, if I had to say one thing, and I think you'll agree about this, everyone needs to be off book

on Eighth World Wonder by Kimberly Locke. We're going to need a lot of audience excitement for that song because it's going to, we've said it before, but kick off the show. Have we said this before? We've said it. Thank God. Let's see, what else do we have?

We have all I want for Christmas is you. I mean, that's going to be years in a row. I mean, I think that probably going forward, we're going to see all I want for Christmas is you'd be a huge contender in this category. I think this is the first, this is historic because this is the first time in any award show history for all I want for a song to be nominated

two years in a row for record of the year. Yeah. I think that that speaks to its cultural impact, Bowen. I really do. And remember that last year's winner was Drive Back by Candice, which has stood the test of time in its own right. We're still singing it. Children were singing the song. Children were singing the song at weddings.

At funerals. We're going to see what wins. I just, I think this is a really tough race. Obviously, it's really exciting because all the nominees are being performed.

Padom Padom has really made a late case late in the year. What's the, oh, we're missing the fifth nominee. Oh, the fifth nominee is If You Ask Me To. If You Ask Me To by Celine Dion.

By Celine Dion, which, you know, might be getting a special performance as well. And by might I mean yes. Might I mean yes. I do. Are you okay? There is something going on. Everyone's congested in London. Well, okay, so. It's June

and I'm sorry, the weather is 50 degrees or as the Brits say, you know, 18. I don't know. I can't convert. I was talking to a gay man yesterday and he said to me okay so hay fever they call it hay fever here and I was like oh my god what like how do you get it and he was

like well you know it's like you know hay fever you get it and I was like oh allergies yeah and he goes oh yeah I think you lot call it allergies and I was like wow to call it hay fever because I guess the hay in the air. But it's not hay. That's dramatic to me.

To me, British people calling allergies hay fever is dramatic. You live in the city. You don't live on a farm, babe. Yeah, you don't live on a farm, honey. Honey, except the fact that you are. Big Ben's right over there. Yeah. Okay?

Okay. There's a Costa across the street. There's a Costa. Costa Coffee across the street. There's a costa there's a costa coffee across the street there's a costa coffee across the street it's not hyphae for its allergies okay hun hun you're not at risk you're not at risk there's a fucking there's a pret a manger there's a sainsbury's there's a tesco

it's not all these things there's all these things that are not what hey was a slay. We really wish we had gotten to see Kelly Rowland the night before, but we were seeing her goddamn sister. And we heard that she wore an intense black catsuit and gave production

value, budget, talent, and more. I mean, Kelly Rowland. She, Kelly Rowland, gives talent, charisma, and more. And more. This is a new syntactical thing that Matt is innovating on, always innovating on.

But the new thing is, and please explain this for yourself, but in summary, it's to say two things and then always follow it up with more. So basically, if I was to say what London is giving, London is giving prosperity, culture, and more.

Bonyang gives talent, charisma, and more. What the hell was that? My ice bucket is giving sounds, coldness, and more. I look out to London, and I'm literally seeing clouds, sky, and more. It's a complete thought. The title of this episode is Eris, Renaissance, and More. I love it. I love that too.

I love that. So literally, so this was such a wild couple weeks that we actually made a list of things to get through and we've gotten through all of them except two. We have to discuss the succession finale. We do. Bon Yang, what did you feel about the way that succession ended? And how power transferred?

Well, power did not transfer, I would say. I would say the only person who was really in power was natsin and at the end of the day he still is in power yeah and all along he was the only person who was in power and that's a comment and that's a comment these children were i mean in the words of roman they were all bullshit yeah the whole time and that is the that is what the tragedy of this show is. Yep. And what a fucking brilliant, what a perfect, perfect finale.

Yeah. I will never forget it. With this perfect finale, the cheers in the valley. Who? Who? Couldn't be happier. That's where my voice is right now, y'all.

You guys, here's what I'm going to say right now and we've talked about hating saying this but Sarah Snook give her the Emmy this is what I love about Succession it is going to make brand names out of a few people

Sarah Snook I'm so excited to see what she does next like this was unbelievable and also that's a tough turn in that finale almost every single episode she has an impossible task but she is endlessly watchable she fucking turns on a dime you believe every second of it it's super authentic there's no one like her really there is sarah snook is a finalist and i'm so happy she's nominated for everything she's nominated

for and even earns her own category. Earns her own category. The Shiv Award. The Shiv Roy Award. It's not the Sarah Snook Award. No. But it's the Shiv Roy Award. I've been exposed to the fancams of Shiv slash Sarah. They are many and they are all

mesmerizing. Yeah. Because you're just seeing clip after clip of Sarah smiling, blinking, waving, doing little things, and going, I could watch this all day. Yeah. I just mean, like, No, I know, but like, yes, yes, yes, but I'm just saying, like, even just on

a fan cam level, this bitch is giving. When the fan cams are giving, you know that there's fans. She's an analog of Pedro Pascal. It's like, you could watch, we could all watch a Pedro Pascal fan cam, we could all watch a Pedro Pascal fan cam. We can all watch a Sarah Smith fan cam. Deeply mother. Deeply mother.

And daughter in a way. Deeply mother, deeply daughter, and unfortunately wife in the season finale. Trapped. Trapped. Trapped in the car. Hand on an open palm. That tragic last image.

Oh, dear God. Both of them. Both. I mean, what we heard was, and what I think people must know at this point, is that Kendall walking back into the room, acting as if the fishbowl of these siblings breaking down,

acting as if no one had seen what just happened. Yeah. And the guy being like, we're done. That was fully ad-libbed. We're done. We're done. I forget the line. It's like, you don't have it. It's a little literal,

but you do need to see that moment where it dawns on him. I loved it. A lot of people are, and I think this was going to be the case either way we're just not necessarily satisfied because they either

didn't see the Shiv turn coming or didn't buy it or like the whole season is a lead up to that turn I would agree and I also think the fact that it felt impulsive just goes to show that this is going to be this family's reality forever and I loved the way that it ended sort of not with them of course they

had like what could be deemed like a relationship ending fight but i bet not you get the sense that this people these people's prison is yes he's sitting there staring at the water and like completely defeated but there's also something there that's just like it's not over for him and trying to i don't think it's like a death sentence for him i think he's gonna keep attempting oh interesting but not i don't know how he possibly could but like the story's not over for the family in in terms of a family drama sense and that's what i really liked about it was that it felt like the words like i love you but i can't stomach you is like they're still connected and I mean

there she is like still connected to it in her own way and like I just you get the sense that it's ongoing in a dramatic sense but in a way where I'm good to not watch I mean I totally agree I think that's the whole thing of the show is that it's this it's this group of people who are locked into torture because they are family yeah there's there's like conclusion but not finality is i would say this conclusion to the story but there's like this very dark ellipses that is on their lives now and i remember like um a few days ago i read an article where jeremy strong was like which was very jeremy strong he was like, you know, I did a take where I, as Kendall, wanted to jump in the

water because I felt he'd want to kill himself in that moment. And, you know, they had to stop me. And I was like, right. And that's why we don't have Jenna Ortega writing Wednesday. This is why we don't have Jeremy Strong writing succession because it really was supposed to end the way it was supposed to end without you jumping

in the water. But I guess happy we got the take. Would love to see the deleted scene of Jeremy Chung trying to like jump in the water and the like, you know, second AD being like, Jeremy, Jeremy, no,

Jeremy. Right, right. You gotta love him. We needed one more from him. This man. And let me just, let me just make clear.

Once again, this man is iconic. Oh, please. And there was a lot of pickup from that story I shared. Yeah. About the bathroom. Mm-hmm.

It is all in. And we meant everywhere we said. It was ridiculous. It was so perfect. Yes. This is this man's process. And guess what? It works.

That's all that matters. It works better than anything else we've ever seen. I mean, look, I wouldn't change a thing. Wouldn't change a thing. Love that Roman's last moment is, he's back at the bar, like where we found him in season one. Like the first scene,

it's like he is fully, well, my interpretation of the moments we leave all these three siblings on is that like, with the exception of Shiv, I guess. Well, no, with Shiv, it's like these three people don't know what to do without this

motivating force it's the perfect ending on this because it's like this the whole like race is over yeah and you end with like kendall like staring out into the water because i think for him it's done like he he does not know what to do. He, like, was built for this. And now that this is finally taken away from him, he's like, I don't... So dark. His existence is, like, meaningless. Yeah.

So sad. I think the turn works for Shiv, especially when, right before her, it's Roman being like, yeah, I'm sure, whatever, whatever. Like, there's a moment of hedging. You see, like, a moment of him being like, I don't know, like, his, you know, his stitches just popped. And she's like, I actually have, whatever. There's a moment of hedging. You see a moment of him being like, I don't know, his stitches just popped.

And she's like, I actually have a final move here to be the power player, and it is to burn it down. I don't think the turn is unearned at all. No, me neither. Especially with the Roman thing. After that crazy hug scene. Yeah, that was insane.

I think it was a perfect finale, and you can't say that for a lot of hbo shows like people still are arguing about the sopranos thing now you know it's like game of thrones yeah game of thrones like all of that all and so like six feet under was the closest thing to perfection when it was never saw it oh i know i got that finale was see yeah i mean in an almost opposite way of succession because it actually did that thing and it sort of like i guess you know not created the thing but like perfected the thing of like we are seeing into the future into the ends of their lives because that was a show literally about death and about you know that idea of uh closure or lack thereof and so basically like that was the perfect ending

for that show was to jump into the future and see the great expanse of what that life was whereas succession what it was saying was like these people wanted so desperately to be more than their situation and be more than this but they're not yeah they are not serious people as he said in that second episode you know what i mean it's just like ultimately they were defined by their station in life and it made them miserable. So that is the, I guess, satire of the whole thing.

I will miss the show a great deal. You know, and it makes me sad. The whole state of television right now, it does make me sad because it's like, so many things are ending that were so formative and have ended it's like are we creating new things are we creating new art like that is like this anymore i mean like it it really does feel not to be like morose or like uh what's the word yeah yeah Fatalist about the state of television and the state of art in general and the state of cinema.

I saw Fast X and it's just like, is this what this is? Is this what this is? Yeah. I mean, I'm excited to see Spider-Verse. Oh, yes. But that's the thing of it is Marvel. It's a franchise.

But at least there's a really inspiring level of innovation there. It just seems like everyone's... And by everyone, we just mean the people who decide these things. It's just even more and more risk-averse. Which is, by the way,

in terms of looking at things that have worked in the past and trying to predict and extrapolate into the future in terms of what gets greenlit. It's like that is something that AI can do. Taylor Tomlinson did a whole thing about this. Yes. Their jobs are the replaceable ones. Yeah.

Not the writers. Yeah. It's literally the easiest thing in the world to do to just regurgitate. Which actually brings me to I Don't Think So Honey for me anyway. Okay, wait. Do we have one more thing to discuss in the list? I could do it as my I Don't Think So Honey and that could be the jumping off point. I love it. Okay. Because it is an I Don't Think So Honey for me anyway. Okay, wait. Do we have one more thing to discuss in the list? I could do it as my I Don't Think So Honey and that could be the jumping off point. I love it.

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You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. So this is I Don't Think So Honey People. And this is, of course, our one minute segment where we just sort of, you know, have to drag and read and absolutely demolish things in pop culture that are bothering us. And I have to say, the third graders are getting into it this month, later in the month. And I am ready to start the conversation.

You know what? Can I promise you something as a friend? Promise me. I'm going to get caught up on Morning Show. You have to. And we are going to be able to talk about this and have a dialogue. Bowen, I think it's your favorite show

that you don't know... I believe it. ...is your favorite show yet. I didn't mean to... But that's, of course, a whole different conversation than the one we're about to begin. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. I mean, his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Samantha coming back to it. Just like that season two. I'm sorry,

but it feels so stupid to tell us it's definitely not happening. It's definitely not happening. It's definitely not happening. And then now I don't think so, honey, that we know actually exactly how it's happening. I don't think so, honey, that we know actually exactly how it's happening. I don't think so, honey, that these people are hell-bent on telling us every single thing that happens.

And just like that season two, we fully know about Aiden. Stop teasing us in the trailer. We've all seen online that they pretty much end up together or at least go on a goddamn vacation together. I don't think so, honey, that we know that.

Where is tension? Where is the idea of surprise? literally know samantha is coming back and she's gonna have one scene and it's gonna be on the phone so now what yeah i guess quote unquote everyone's gonna watch now but i don't think so honey was it struggling in the first place what is this is sex in the city now just a meme generator is that what we're fully committing to now? Bowen is nodding. And if that's the case, then I guess I think so, honey. Third graders go all the way off, but I don't think so, honey. Me, who loved Sex and the City in the beginning.

That's one minute. I could not agree with you more. I mean, is Sex and the City just a meme generator now? Yeah. I mean, I remember talking to Cynthia Nixon. We did an Actors on Actors together. Lovely experience.

Love her. I brought up in a way that like was, you know, not like totally honest, but I was like, I hope you guys know that the discourse is a compliment, which is what you and I have said. Well, I do think it's a compliment until it gets to a certain place where I think it's approaching. Right. And so then, and what she had to say was, you know, like Michael Patrick King, the whole time, when all the Che Dia, you know, after Big Dies and after all the Che moments, was like, nope, this is great. After all

of us were like, God, what's happening? People are really dunking on this. He was like, nope, this is great. We have one water cooler moment after another and after another and after another. And in a way, I feel like the danger there is that the people who make the show are now motivated by those water cooler moment after another and after another and after another. And in a way, I feel like the danger there is that the people who make the show are now motivated by those water cooler moments exclusively.

And so they want us to be talking about the Samantha thing as if it's like, that cheapens the experience of watching the show. Why would you keep it? So she filmed this in March. Why would you keep it a secret? It's a whole PR rollout. Yes, and I completely understand that, but it's just like okay so you

would never have told us that big died in the premiere of season one right right but you would tell us that samantha is returning when the number one water cooler conversation about the show is will she or will she not return and in what capacity so by the same argument like should you have told us that big was gonna die like i guess we quote unquote all would have watched and some people are saying that because there's a conversation about the quality of and just like that not being up to snuff with sex in the city that there was going to be a drop-off and so they had to do things like that or this like in terms of revealing the plot elements and i'm like i don't think that's true i just don't think that if you watch the entirety of and just like that think that if you watch the entirety

of it just like that season one and you are someone who participates in culture and the consumption of culture in the way this is and misses the monoculture which is i guess what we're all here for and why we have this in the first place you're not gonna not watch this show right and if that's the case then like maybe you do have a quality issue and you have to look at that. But you already told us that Aiden was going to be there. So why did we need it spoiled for us that Samantha is going to be there? I know. And it's also like, even if you said she's coming back, then just say that. Don't say it's going to be one scene in the finale and it's not with the other characters.

She did not interact with any of her castmates. Didn't interact with Michael Patrick King. Patricia Field came back for one scene. Okay, cool. So it's going to be a gag. She'll be dressed well. Who cares? Who cares?

Yeah, it's already, it's not off to a great start. I mean, we'll all be watching, obviously. But that's the thing. It's like, we're going to watch. But that's exactly my point. I totally understand we were gonna watch it is people chasing entry into the monoculture at the expense of like an actual enjoyable experience of like consuming it you know yes and you know what one of what was great about the monoculture or that time it's like we could watch something and not know what

was gonna happen we could watch something and enjoy it all together and have that cathartic experience all together now what you've done is you've moved that cathartic like communal experience to like a deadline article and that sucks a bit shit in it it's a bit shit it's a bit shit i can't do it but that's how I feel about that. It was just like, wow, after all of that, you're going to announce it in the trades? In the trades. I know. After you've also used it

as a bait and switch all first season long about the text with her and then Carrie being in the same city as her and then agreeing to meet up, now you're going to announce in the trades? It just felt cheap to me and like this is the thing about like when you talk to cynthia about like the discourse being a compliment the discourse was a compliment because it was about the wildness of chay yeah the craziness of these like women like changing

and like not in line with what the original show was doing because it got people to talk about what was happening in the show. This is talking about the macro outside of the show and that is not interesting. That is not interesting. It's the equivalent of when you watch a housewives reunion and all they talk about is social media. It's not fun.

It's not interesting. I kind of don't care about behavioral things no like about like these like real actors or these real people if we cared then there would be a demand for like you know there's like no demand to hear more about the story i think everyone's just exhausted by it and so now to hear that oh she's coming back but don't worry the needle still hasn't moved on anything in terms of the relationships or whatever. Okay, so now it's just like you're reminding us this is not an interesting story. Yeah, yeah.

For what? Samantha to come back and do one scene after Kim Cattrall has expressly talked about how uncomfortable she is playing the character. Like, so what? Are we supposed to expect that she got a huge payday and you got her? Or that she has no integrity? You know what I mean? What is it that we're saying? There's no way it's going to be worth it. No!

There's no way that we watch and we're like, ugh, that really... There she is, and thank God. I know. That scratched something. No way, because you know for a fact that she begrudgingly came back, pretty much against her will.

I can't even, like, ethically consume it. Watch Glamorous on Netflix later in the month to see Kim Cattrall every episode. And Matt Rodgers and Joel Kim Booster in... We are in the eighth episode of the season. Amazing. I did not share scenes with Kim, but Kim is all over that show.

Kim is in the show. She's in it. In a major way, every episode even. Not just one scene. She's in every episode. But watch Sex and the City and Just Like That

get 50,000 times more conversation over her one scene than her entire performance in Glamorous. It's like, I hope not, but you know. It's just so... Ugh. You know what? Start a new monoculture glamorous glamorous make glamorous part of the monoculture

make glamorous part of the monoculture it's rule of culture number nine make glamorous part of the monoculture and then in 10 years when kim returns to the glamorous reboot I don't want to hear that it's one scene. No. She'll be an old woman. Imagine her saying this about Zayn Phillips. I just wish you were nicer. I just wish you were nicer to me. I just wish you were nicer. And then she tags Zayn

on Instagram and say, hey, at Zayn Phillips, leave me alone. Do not wish me well. Give him good trowel. Okay. Shout out to Zayn. Shout out to Zayn. We love you. leave me alone do not wish me well Kim Cattrall okay shout out to Zayn shout out to Zayn we love you love you boy

love you love you love you okay so this is your I don't think so honey this is your sort of big moment on the episode to drag and read are you excited

I'm excited all right this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey his time starts now I don't think so honey saying if you died tomorrow well let Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey saying, if you died tomorrow,

well, let's hope I don't. You know when people are like, if you died tomorrow, oh my God, I bet you, like this is the picture that would like make me happy. Oh no. I'm going to say,

someone said this to me recently. It might have even been my sister Yang Yang. I love you so much. But I sent her a picture of us at Disney World and she was like oh if you died tomorrow I remember you by this photo and I go haha yeah I guess 30 seconds let's hope that doesn't happen

let's hope it doesn't come to that I don't want to die this is not an attack on my sister obviously no why do people say that why is that like a phrase in the culture and the English language? If you die tomorrow,

I really hope I don't. Should I be worried? Do you know something I don't? Doctor. Doctor. Five seconds. If you ever say to me, if you die tomorrow,

I will say, that's not appropriate. I don't think so, honey, that I'll ever say this to you. And that's one minute on you. And I would say this. One of the great tragedies of my life one day will be your death. No.

It will be so. You will die before me. I hope so. I'm looking you in the eyes and saying I hope so. The way the universe is working, I think, for both of us, is that you will not have to suffer sadness. You will not have to suffer that. I can't do grief. Can I say? I can't

do it. I cannot do it. If this is how I act after, like, some other things in my life, I can't be doing grief. I have to go first. And I really apologize. And I understand this is like a morbid thing to even get into. And I don't even like getting into it. But I

have to go first. All my acquaintances, friends, even my enemies. I don't want to see anyone go. I'd like to go first. Please. I don't want a deal. And then y'all have a renaissance concert for my funeral. Do the Matt Rogers eras. Do the Matt Rogers. Oh, that'll be a great show. That'll be a joyful

show. Literally, after work one day, that'll be a great show. That'll be a joyful show. Literally, after work one day, we're sitting around. Someone asks, where do you think we go when we die? And then we literally go around the circle. And then the conversation shifts to, someone was like, this is a really wild question,

but I'm so curious to know. They were like, have you been in the presence of someone when they passed, like at someone's bedside. And it was three of us. Two of them were like, yes. Oh my gosh. And I was like, and then it made me realize,

I was like, I'm sorry, I have nothing to contribute to this and that's okay. Yeah, that's not something I've experienced. And one day I will. One day I might and I am right there with you,

my sister. It's going to be me. You're going to watch me expire. God, I hope we die at the same time. That would be wonderful. I literally can't do grief because I'm in my depression era and you are pulling me out of it every moment I'm with you. But I cannot experience true loss.

If my sister goes, I'm done. I'm out. If my parents go, I'm done. I don't want it. I'd rather not. I'd rather not. And again, Yang, if you're listening, I know you are. I don't think so many about you. It was just you said that and I was like, wait a minute. Here's the thing.

Here's the tea. We're actually both in depression era. Your girl, this podcaster is also newly medicated and I'm loving it. Yes. But the fact is, it's hard. It's difficult to live sometimes. And you need is it's hard. It's difficult to live sometimes. And you need

sisterhood. Even a Taylor Swift concert or Beyonce won't be the panacea. It's sisterhood. And you cut off my sisterhood, you cut off my life support. Period. Starring Queen Latifah. Yes. Is that the movie you interviewed her on? So I interviewed her years ago about Secret Life of Beavis. And one of my favorite stories ever

is that I was 18 years old. I was of Bees. And one of my favorite stories ever is that I was 18 years old. I was writing for the NYU newspaper and I was doing the film features and film reviews. And I got to see the Secret Life of Bees early. And then, in part of a group, I got to interview Gina Prince-Bythewood, Sophie Okonedo,

and Queen Latifah. And I sort of flopped on Gina and Sophie just because I was nervous and didn't know how to do it. Sophie wasn't nice to you. It wasn't that she wasn't nice. It was another interviewer was like, he cut you off, so do you want to answer that question again? And I was like, oh, I didn't mean to.

But it was a flop. So Queen Latifah comes in and she's luminous. She's a superstar. She has platinum blonde hair. It's everything. She's in her Secret Life of Bees bag. So then, at the end, everyone's

like lining up to get their like press packet signed. And everyone that's going up to her is like, I love this movie and I love you in Chicago. I love you in Chicago. I love you in Chicago. She goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I'm really about to gag her a bit. So I go up to her and I say, I just want to say I loved you in Chicago. She goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm like, I'm really about to gag her a bit. So I go up to her and I say,

I just want to say, I loved you in life support. And she looked up and she looked me in the eyes and she said, thank you so much, baby. You got the baby. And I said, I know that's right. I said, I know that's right. I know that's right. You know how's right. You know how

to connect. I said, I'm saying the AIDS movie that I genuinely love. Of course. And then she goes, this man genuinely loved the AIDS movie. She said, this gay boy watched the AIDS movie that I was in. And I'm going to thank him. And I'm going to look him

in his eyes. I'm going to swipe my platinum blonde hair out of my face. In my secret life of bees bag. And call him baby. And say, thank you so much, baby. I love that story so much. We end every episode with a song. When you're good to mama.

Mama's got to. You're good to mama. Mama's got to you. To get more of that song, watch Chicago starring Queen Latifah and Richard Gere. Bye. Bye. Bye. from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty

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