Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Everything Feet" (w/ Gracie Abrams)
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Look, Matt.
Where? Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow.
Is that culture?
Oh, my goodness.
Las cultureistas.
Ding dong, Las Coulteristas calling.
Why the pregnant pause?
Oh, wait, hold on for podcasts or a visual medium.
Matt and I, synergistic again.
It kind of keeps happening.
So I come in today and I think there's no way that Bowen is going to wear a pop culture icon on his shirt today like I am because I'm kind of giving my icon Mariah.
And you walk in clad in Brusley.
You know, and I have my thing with Bruce Lee, which is just.
someone who um
looms large but I don't like
I'm finally gonna come out as like a Bruce Lee stand
I'm like it's only in my bedroom literally you like you know that
like I have that Italian poster of this is a queer narrative
this is a queer narrative it just existed in your bedroom as a child
and now it's roaring to life in public well all these politicians out here
saying keep that in the bedroom to me directly yeah and you finally
defied them here I am look at this I love this cut and color on you
Similar to the cut in color on our guests.
We got a lot of primary action happening in here.
This is the day I meet my pen pal.
This is like when you meet like your pen pal from when you were young, but just adult version.
I was going to say like when you have like, because you know when you were little,
did they ever give you a pen pal from like a faraway school?
Did you ever your program ever do this?
Yeah, I want to say once or twice.
So when I moved from Canada, all the kids wrote little postcards for me.
Oh, that's so sweet.
And then I think the first week we moved to Colorado, I was like,
Dad, where are the postcards?
He was like, I can't find them.
Shut the fuck up.
Never read a thing.
Of course.
Yeah.
Still thinking about it all these years later.
You could cry now.
If you feel like there's still some left in the tank, our guess would support it.
Oh, yeah.
I haven't hydrated enough today.
Well, I think.
No, no, no.
Are you kidding me?
You want some of our guest's Arctic vibe, which yes, is in a cup and looks sick like poison.
This is why, this is why Celsius does.
doesn't come in a clear container.
Let's get into it.
Let's really get into it what we came here to talk about today,
which is what Celsius looks like in a clear container.
Certainly not the excellent third album.
It's a step forward.
It's the third album down.
Which was tough to do because we were already pretty forward.
100%.
I went to that concert.
Bodies were hitting the ground.
Bodies were hitting the ground.
People were getting so overwhelmed.
Bodies were hitting the ground.
Well, you were saying these girls were like forming a circle,
clutching each other.
I've never seen anything like it.
girls grabbed hands and created like a ring.
Beautiful.
And it didn't matter who else was there.
It was their floor.
And I was like, yes.
Nothing in the circle.
No.
Well, then that's tough.
Just their energy.
Well, that's a lot of floor.
That's a lot of area.
If you wanted to get in there, you could have crawled under them.
It just didn't feel right.
It was their floor.
I think you have something to say about that.
You should address, like, just taking up the area.
Let's put our guest in.
She's incredible in every way.
Everyone welcome.
Gracie Abrams!
Take a more and more sip of Arctic.
Of Arctic piss.
Guys, this is the treat of my life to be here.
And also, I don't want to speak.
I just want to, like, sip.
You feel, do you know, there's like fever dream moments?
Yes.
Oh, I have to speak.
Yeah.
How about this?
You name the episode today.
Yes.
No.
Later.
No.
You have to.
Fine, how about this?
Okay, well, whatever you say, it's your house.
We'll say it, and only if you confirm it, can it be.
Great.
Because I feel like you're going to be the viability.
be the vibe of saying the rules of culture with us today. Wow. I want you to. God, I mean,
it's, I do it when I'm on the train in my headphones. Like, you'll say something and I will
predict. And sometimes I'm surprised when you don't make something. Really? Oh, I know.
Confirmed breeder. I guess we should say to. Yeah, big time. Finalist.
Thank you. Well, of course, finalists. Cheers. Cheers. Can we say? Can we expose just how
piss like this is? Absolutely. Wait, I want to bring something up right off the back. Yes.
I was at Jake Shane's house. Oh, is it the bag? It was not the bag. I saw the
the books that you gifted him.
Yes.
And I squealed and I go, of course Gracie fucking reads, Eve Babit.
Well, all day long.
And you know what?
Kaya and I speak Kaya had a library science conversation about Eve Babits and Joe Didion.
And it was one of my, like, it was one of those moments where you're just relieved when people read.
And I was, and I was relieved to gift Jake books.
Yes.
I, I, what's the relief?
What is that kind of?
The subtle drag.
No, no, no, no.
he will he's the he's the he was the first to say it he was like do you read I was like I do
do you and he was like crazy yeah bit and then he was like I will read I told him I was like I'm
going to send you like the just the beginning of your library oh that's a beautiful and I wrote him
and then he was like I will read I was like the title yeah yeah yeah yeah I will read the
the back of the book cover the blurbs I said no you should actually read these like these are
incredible first, like, starter pack books.
I'm glad you approved of them.
Oh, yes.
And I was like, Jake, you would actually
fucking love Eve Babitz because she's talking about...
She's just talking about...
She's just talking about the culture.
She's talking about the culture and the tone.
Eve Babitz, she's just talking about the culture.
It's rule of culture number two.
Eve Babitz, she's just talking about the culture.
And you're danced in it.
And you danced in.
This feels really good.
It's so nice in this room.
Thank you.
With all of you.
Well, our best friend Jared is here,
and he never comes and sits in,
but he is one of your great, great fans.
I've heard about you, Jared.
We were there at your concert
where the girls were ringing,
ringing around there, Rosie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you see this from the stage?
Yeah, and actually, we were just talking about this,
like, 10 minutes ago
about the concept, like, someone was like,
is there a moche?
I was like, well, there is.
I wouldn't, I don't know if I would use that word.
I would.
It's a sash.
It's a soft mosh.
A sash, yeah, yeah.
But it is you make a good point, like, what's happening to that floor space?
Nothing.
Because they stay wide.
Yes.
Which I also am like, everybody take their space.
Absolutely.
And it is theirs to, it is theirs to, they, they chose to be on the floor.
Absolutely.
Their floor.
And you know what?
No say.
Our phones out?
Our phones are out.
Oh, phones are out.
My phone was out.
I know.
I'm pro put him down.
I'm, you're a pro put him down.
I used to be.
But, well, I actually, I live on, I think I'm pro soak up the
experience.
Of course.
You went out of your way to be here.
It's like you paid money to be here.
If you want to record every single second of it, I advocate for that to you.
I'm not anti-phone.
I'm pro-presence.
Yeah.
So there's this book that's coming out called The Story of Your Life.
I have not read it, but I'm seeing like people who are getting galley's like talk about
how this author, like, writes about how social media is whatever, blah, blah, blah,
defining all over the lives.
But specifically when it comes to pulling out your phone at a concert, this is why we do it.
You ready?
Yeah.
It's because you're so overwhelmed with emotion.
And in the modern condition is such that you don't know how to process and sit with the emotion,
other than to take out your phone and record something because I don't watch that stuff back.
You never do.
And also the experience of other people watching it is never going to be as good.
I think it's a thing of like you are anticipating a moment so much.
You think the number one thing to do is capture it when what you really should do.
What happens to me is I know this to be true.
So I'll have my phone out and I'll just capture like a boring part of any song so that I see the part that's worth capturing or whatever.
Pulling my phone out is the curse for what I'm like.
My goal is immediately gone.
Like there's no, there's no success rate, the absolutely low success rate.
Yeah.
Because at a concert you can't play the song again.
Correct.
And that's rule of culture number three.
At a concert, you can't play the song again.
Unless you're Audrey Hobert and you do sue me twice.
Does she do that?
And you know what she does?
which actually, maybe this isn't my information.
Well, I think I went to the show.
I can speak on it.
We all saw it.
It's the best show.
Have you guys seen her live yet?
We did a show in L.A. for Katie Crutchfield and Darcy Cardin and Allison.
Oh, yes.
Oh, and she's, I saw you guys singing together.
We sang together.
That was, again, it's one of those things.
It's like, I can't rank why, like, in order, what's the best thing about Audrey's, like, rise.
Selfishly, I think it's that I get to see.
see more of my friend, like on the internet, doing things.
Oh, that's cool.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Because when we're not in the same place, like, I got to just open Instagram and you two
are singing together on stage.
I'm like, that is what I would like, in my fantasy, I'd be, like, in my simulation,
I'd be like, Bowen and Audrey are now on stage together.
You know what I mean?
I feel like it is, this is, we are living in your simulation.
Kind of.
Well, today we are, because I get to watch the two of you do your job.
Honey.
You.
It's awesome.
And you get to watch me drink piss.
Yes.
Do you know what's cool?
What probably rocks most about the Audrey situation and I think...
The Audrey situation title of that?
The Audrey situation title of that.
Well, I was going to say stay wide, but I didn't want to be rude to everyone in the room.
It's a crass title, crass idea for our title.
Stay wide.
Stay wide.
Anyway, moving on.
I feel like it's that thing of when you just, you think that someone around you was really special.
And then the world starts to confirm it.
And you're like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Like these things that...
that I got to experience everyone's getting that same feeling.
And that's, that's fun.
It's just, it's like the, it's, I grew up with her voice in my head all the time every day for 16 years.
Oh.
And I'm just, I just, now others get to have that.
So I'm just like, we're all better off.
Damn, that's so beautiful.
You're a little jealous.
I'm, guys.
I have a fuck on a Robert T-shirt.
It's the best thing. Also, also, I mean, and I'm like, I never want to move on from this topic.
But to see, I'm just so excited because she's, she's doing festivals this summer.
I'm like, can you imagine being at Lala?
And then like, can you imagine like being at Lala?
And if you, for some reason don't know who she is yet.
And then you hear like, and you're like, I'm going to chase that sound.
And then.
And also the audience that's there is going to be giving it.
It's going to be a chapel moment.
Well, I was going to say, I think so.
I think so because when Sumi first came out
and the video came out I was like
I feel like Matt
Matt was on chapel from the jump
I remember
I remember I wanted to say this on the pod
but I felt too shy because I feel like I'm not as prescient
as you but I was like I think this Audrey
Hobart girl is like no you were always right about that
also but you've always in my
experience you've always been
supporting like
I support but I support for sure for sure
but I'm also like
I'm not I'm not going to
to be as like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna.
You're not being declarative.
He didn't want to stick his neck out because what if something horrible was to happen.
Like a flop.
When a gay guy is wrong publicly.
Like a flop single.
No, no way.
No chance with that girl.
No chance.
How long years, you know, with 16 years?
Has the process been the same when you guys have been writing together where it's like
wine nights or is it, it's changed over time?
Well, it's like we just lived together.
Well, well, well, well.
Well, well.
Well, well.
We just were, we were roommates.
Yes.
And then we just started writing songs together, which is like such a weird, all of a sudden one day.
But I imagine with the two of you, what you make together, it was probably not like a...
Born out of friendship instead of like, we have to create.
Yeah, exactly.
There's no like sit down conversation.
It's just like there's a guitar and both of us are there.
And we're already like, we just started laughing while we were strumming was the vibe.
And then it made it, it made it, that was like the bar for us of what we chose to keep in.
Like lyrics that either felt so correct or made us laugh the hardest.
You said that about that so true too.
Yeah, absolutely.
That you're cracking up by the end of it.
Yes.
And we have a song on this album as well that we wrote, I think, the same week that we did that so true, which like also made us giggle in that sense.
You know what I mean?
Which is a song on this album.
Mini bar.
Yeah, no, mini bar is fab.
It's like zippy.
Yeah.
y'all are jippy well she's just it's like there's that there's that um i feel like the
shorthand of your best friend and and it's just so yeah yes well you don't realize she i wish she
was here so pat her and she is on me no it's that thing where it's like you don't think it's
going to translate and then it very much does it's why i always wish that things are more specific
and less broad because i mean but we should say specifically
You guys are wearing the same goddamn shoe today.
Yeah.
You have an amazing point.
I don't know.
Well, my arch is non-existent.
I think these might-
What do you mean non-existent?
Like you're just flat?
You're currently an arch.
I'm flat.
I'm flat.
Really?
You, oh, wait.
Can we just get,
or we're just going to step on?
I don't think so, honey.
Are we going to step on it right now?
I feel like,
it sounds like you have some foot insecurity.
Oh.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no, no.
Oh, because of what I said,
because we can't, oh, because my ankles.
Because ankles?
What's about ankles?
Well, let's talk about my ankles.
I just sometimes...
But yeah, let's make it personal.
It's my ankles.
Actually, I would love to talk about feet.
I have a couple...
I have a few questions.
Over New Year's, we were all...
So, we were all there for New Year's.
Over New Year's, we were all.
Talking about Wiki feet.
That's a thing.
And I had never explored that platform.
Yes.
And many of our friends have explored.
I heard it, which I was like, okay.
Totally.
Like, I, anyway, news to me.
Okay.
There is, there's, there's ratings.
Yes.
And there are comments.
Okay.
So, I have, in my mind, wide feet.
I've just noticed this.
Okay, everyone look.
Literally no.
No.
No, no, this part.
Bone to bone.
Well, honey, everyone's foot there.
I know it's the widest part of the foot in theory.
Right, right.
But I have always felt this.
And so I'm for the first time in my life over New Year's this past year on
WikiFeet with everyone and I come across a comment.
Oh no.
About my own.
This man wasn't writing from a place of like any fetish or like there was no sexual
angle.
It was as if he was a doctor going like I fear she might have like a bunion in her future.
You don't have a bunion girl.
No, no.
Oh, in your future.
In my future.
We don't know.
Some sort of foot psychic and you wish she had more of a sexual fetishy sort of angle to
No, no, I definitely, I wasn't like, damn it.
But I was all, no, but I was then curious.
And so, and so having already noticed, when I put on heels that are like meant for, like, a lady,
sometimes my foot feels too wide to go in that section.
So anyway, basically now I'm like, is he right?
And then, like, and then I wonder, like, is there something preventative that I could be doing?
I feel like I'm onto something.
Okay.
My flight of security.
You are, you are spiraling with this man's voice in your head.
About everything feet
About everything feet
And can I just say
The title of up
Thank you so much
You just locked it in
The title of up is everything feet
That guy's gonna love it
Of course
I will say
I feel like I have some of the most
beautiful feet
In the history of man
Oh my god to have no confidence
I'm not gonna ask you to show them
But I can
I will find you on Wiki feet
We'll find you later
Have you looked up your score?
Of course I've looked on it
I'm one of those freaks
One of our friends
she was so proud about being the highest ranking foot in the group that like you're too proud
you said you're too proud I was like but I would also probably react that way well no if there
weren't doctors in my if there were doctors in my forum yeah sure but I think the way I feel about my
feet is I need I need to apply this I need to it needs to be writ large in terms of my my whole life
where I'm like oh it doesn't matter what other people think because my
rating on Wikipede is in the gutter.
What? And I'm like, I don't care.
This is actually dead wrong.
When people review your album, they're like,
it fucking sucks, but it's like, I had a fun
making it. Exactly. It's not even that
you have fun making. It's that you know it's good.
Yeah, you know it's a part of your soul.
Well, I don't know. I feel like
my feet are, they're treating
if Wikifete is pitchfork,
they're treating my feet like
it's Fiona Apple. Because
like, I have a very high rating
and I have to tell you, I would not describe
my feet as Fiona Applecoded. I think my feet are awful. You're perfect 10. No, everyone who sees my feet are
just like put those away. What do you mean? Wait, hold on. My friend Dave calls them the stakes.
Jared, what do you think? You hate them? They're bad. They're not good. Why? Describe.
I'm going to be very vulnerable. Okay. Well, finally, I've been like talking about my, like,
you're like, burgeoning bunnies and my fucking ankles. A few years ago, I made the fatal, the fatal mistake of
Yes, showering at the Hollywood Equinox with no shoes on.
Oh, this is actually a part of my later.
Really?
Anyway, please.
As a result, I got athletes' foot and it really wasn't good there for a little while
and to the point where like it had to be like, I had to start a relationship with Loderman.
He can't believe I'm this candid on the pod.
Was it visually a thing?
It's just.
Let's just say I was surprised to see my wiki feet rating so high.
Jesus.
I know.
How long does that last?
It lasts as long as you let it
Is it a topical situation?
It is, it is.
It's very treatable, very curable.
It's on this foot?
It's on.
I was like, where is it?
No, no, no, no.
It was on both feet, you guys.
Oh, I see.
That's how fungus works.
But here's the thing about feet, though.
I love topical creams.
I love topical creams for sure.
I love topical creams.
But do they work?
I don't know.
It's always like results in better over time.
Results in time.
Results in time.
You will always.
see results in time. It's actually real culture number
nine. You will see results in time.
Hey, did you just have a breakup?
Honey, time.
Honey, you're going to love time.
Athletes foot time.
Time, baby. Oh, baby, time.
Time.
The prescription is time.
I think if someone were to, if you were to
if Jared were to describe
why Matt's feet are bad,
qualitatively you would
fail to capture
why they're bad. I know. Why they're bad.
I think this should be the topic of the whole opposite.
Fee.
Fee.
Fee.
Everything.
I mean, it's cold.
I know because I listen.
Well, you know, the only other time we did that was when Iowa Debrity was on a few years ago.
We talked only about Omarosa.
Okay.
Incredible.
It was when she came out and said, everyone will bow down to the most powerful man in the universe.
And we always start the episode with a ding-dong except that episode.
We started with that voiceover.
And the three of us just screamed about Omarosa for the whole app.
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Danny McBride.
He loves Nova.
Oh, that's fantastic.
And you make it on, you make your own.
That's great.
I call him Terro Reed.
It's a good name.
They're all named after cast members of American Pie.
Yeah.
I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachy.
I don't think she was an American pie, but I still liked that.
Haven't looked it up.
She was prominent around the same time.
Then Mary Steenberg.
Why are you guys talking to me?
I'm worried.
Why are you talking so down to me that you think I don't understand your little play game?
I just really.
I get it.
I'm trying to set you up for success here.
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Are you hitting up theater while you're into, you're not.
am not and I wish I was here
any longer than I am. Speaking of writing.
Yeah. Speaking of writing. What are you? I want to know
what you two are writing about
because you're such beautiful pet pals. You and Matt
Oh my God. We check in and catch up.
We check in kind of like I check in
with you more than many
that I've known intimately for years.
Well it's because I feel and I'm just going to
say this I do feel connected to you over
it's very like this is not
our first life together. I really I was like
they were like okay well Gracie's ready to
come in and I was like I'm not meeting her
on the cameras.
I'm walking in there
because I saw you guys do a TikTok
together at S&L.
I immediately dropped to my knees.
I'm like sorry to everyone else in the room.
That's beautiful.
Well, I found out that you even liked our show
when...
Oh, I love you.
Anyway.
I found that you liked our show
when you saw Hannah Einbinder on it.
And she cried.
Delicious.
At the top.
Yeah.
I wish I were capable of accessing
tears like that.
I mean, I could go there.
I could go there.
What about in your upcoming?
My bunion, potentially.
Will you have to cry in your upcoming film debut?
Oh, shit.
Oh shit.
We asked.
I'm going to just drink my...
Imagine.
You can say nothing.
I don't think so.
What can I say?
Well, have you seen Helena's previous work?
We're fans of Helena's work.
She would be incredible on this podcast.
Because she is just the most...
Have you met her?
her? No, but I've heard that she is
a very vivid character.
A hundred percent. Yeah. She's
really, she's really an amazing person
and I, just, whenever she speaks about anything,
I'm like, give her the mic.
I've been waiting for you to get on camera
in an acting way. I do feel you are a superstar.
Well, that's generous. And you got it.
Well, I will take that from you because
it's Helena, babe.
It's Helena, it's Helena. It's
She is, she is, when I read the script that she wrote, I was like, what the luck.
And she sent it to me just being like, would you ever want to read it?
And I was like not thinking she was asking me to read it in the sense of like, do you want
audition for it?
But I just loved her.
We got breakfast three years ago once because a friend connected us.
And it was similarly to, I was like, I've known you.
I've known you before.
And then the next time we communicated was when she sent me the script.
How are you with milk?
There's a lot of milk on her sets.
Actually.
And dogs.
And dogs.
Actually, there is milk.
There's milk in the film.
Guys.
So many glasses of tall, tall milk.
Every Helena movie, I just want milk everywhere now.
As an Easter egg.
No more glasses of milk as far as I'm concerned.
Piss, piss.
Maybe the set designer will like, yeah, just piss.
By the way, there might be piss.
Here's a tip on crying.
I don't think this is.
worked on me.
Yes, tell.
Imagine there's a column within you.
A column?
A column.
Whatever ionic,
Corinthian, I don't even know what the other columns are.
Do you know the difference between ionic and Corinthian columns?
I'm going to, if you're going to give more context,
I might be able to use context clues.
Just a column.
I believe Corinthian have the lines straight down on it.
Oh, of course.
I'm so sorry.
Yes, of course.
But what was the first one you said?
Ionic.
Ionic.
What is an ionic column?
Ionic just has like the scroll at the top.
still has lines, but then Corinthian has like these embellishments,
like these natural embellishment.
Okay, heard.
Just imagine a column within you.
Uh-huh.
Collapsing.
That gets you.
Okay, ready?
Everyone.
No, I actually can't.
Well, I'm already in the dog dying.
Wait, that's just like,
I went right to my reliable place.
I saw, I've been sort of starting to get like on my reels.
Reels is my, that's all, yeah.
Yeah, same.
And it's great.
It's so good.
Way.
And guilt-free.
Yeah,
I bet.
I've been starting to get,
like,
I will dwell,
like,
just long enough
on,
on clips of certain,
I will dwell long enough.
You will dwell long enough.
And then the algorithm thinks,
well,
she's dwelling.
Well,
our girl is dwelling on this one,
so keep feeding.
So it's,
yes,
of course,
the way the algorithm
famously works,
and then it'll give me,
like,
these beautiful,
like,
women talking about how they make themselves cry and like I will like I will like just me in my room
I've been doing that at the end of these long days I'm like go there and yeah and do you
sometimes oh in the mirror you're always the best actress yeah no literally I met by the end of this
we will oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god and you bit your lip too
looking at me your lip not for nothing imagine the most devastating scene I'm like
it's a little affected that's deductive I feel affected
Um, wait, Mary Fug, Kill.
Reel, uh, Reel's shorts, TikTok.
Uh, Reels YouTube shorts.
I don't, well, uh, I have it, I have it.
Okay, kill, uh, shorts.
Okay.
Wait, sorry at also.
No, no, no, no, YouTube.
I'd fuck shorts and I do.
You do? I've never been, I've been known to.
I have, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, it's never, yeah, never watch a short.
Well, shorts. Kill TikTok.
Kill TikTok. Definitely.
And also, by the way, well, you all go and then I'll...
Kill TikTok.
I'm marrying shorts because it's usually like recipes and wholesome stuff.
I've never been on shorts.
Are you on your phone?
Shorts were happened to you.
Like everything else gets, because this is how the algorithm works too.
It's just, here's a short.
Wait, but no, but I've never, I've never been fed a short.
Do you go on YouTube for fun like us?
Never been fed a short.
I've never been fed a short.
Seriously, where...
You go on YouTube and you kind of just...
On your phone.
Yeah, you just kind of do the thing.
I can't explain either how shorts happen.
No, if you go on YouTube for anything,
if you click out of a video,
there's going to be a whole above the fold, they say, in web design.
They have like a row of shorts that are just like little clipped videos of like...
You're watching shorts and you don't even know it.
You don't even know you're watching shorts.
Are they horizontal?
No, vertical.
No, they're versed.
So I'm not.
Can I tell you what I learned about yesterday?
Vertical integration?
Yes, but that's a different vertical.
Oh, right?
It's like you're integrating your verticals.
I'm thinking about columns.
I cry because of this topic.
Yeah.
Okay, so we have to ask you the central question of our podcast.
And I just know you came with an answer.
I had, yeah.
Gracie Abrams, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you, ultimately?
Ultimately, it was pure heroin.
Oh, my God.
Ultimately it was.
Of course.
My favorite of the offerings.
It was.
And then I was like was it Magita Perez?
And then like truly.
Megita.
Are you kidding me?
No, I was like, was it was it Magita Perez?
Because also like forget the Marnie of it all.
I'm screaming.
Like that and then I was going to say Megita Perez.
And then I was also thinking like Beach House episode.
The last two shots where they've had the blow up.
Yes, yes.
But the nonverbal Marnie comes into the kitchen and they're all cleaning and they're not speaking.
And then they're still not speaking.
And it's they're doing the.
And I was like, that is.
I grew up, me, Audrey, Lila, and Clem are our four that like when I watched girls, when it came out and I was like too young and it like helped inspire all of the kind of, you know, it's like what like Adam Driver as a whole, you're sort of like, you wonder as an adult why certain things are like, yeah.
You're kind of like, why.
I'm like, oh, because I was 12.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway.
A bit young watching those dynamics.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But whatever.
But whatever.
And anyway.
And then, so anyway, so I was thinking those.
Megita, I just.
What about Magita?
That interaction.
That interaction, I felt like you just see her.
You also, she's like, she backs herself.
She backs her, she immediately.
And that smile on her face when she walks away with $600 is the biggest smile you see on
Marnie's face except for when Desi's proposing to her.
When Desi's proposing her.
Oh, my.
And when also, yeah, anyway, we can go on.
But anyway, it's pure heroin.
It's pure heroin.
But hold on, before we go back to pure heroin.
Ex-Megita Perez.
Yeah, no, that is it.
I've never been more shook on this podcast.
He only ever wants to talk about Magita.
No, I...
Really?
Yeah.
I think about Megita Perez like once a week.
Are you kidding me?
Allison, I think about...
I was going to be dead.
I was like, I had this like impulse to not change my handle on Instagram, but just
change my name on...
To Megita Perez.
That would be really strong.
Just do it for 48 hours
24.
Yeah, it's like part of album promo.
It's like album launch, roll out.
Everyone freaks out.
Like Pop Crave is like,
there is probably a track called Megita Perez.
Yeah.
Is Magita on the album?
You have to wear the dress.
Feathing Megita.
The Red Halter.
The red halter.
Oh my God, when she goes...
The slit up the front.
But the way she says Megita Perez.
Megita.
Megita.
Megita Perez.
Megita Perez.
Megita.
Megita.
Period.
Megita Perez.
There's a little roll on the arm.
Megita Perez.
Petes.
What would she say?
I have a fine if I go up if I go about the 10th floor.
200 extra if I'm going above the 10th floor.
And then she tucks her behind her ear.
She goes, I have a fear of heights.
A fear of heights.
Yeah, she's an icon.
That's like her becoming.
I love 200 extra if I go above the 10th floor.
Like she has some like fear that they can pay for.
It's incredible.
Wait, but there's two.
There's two.
She gets, she gets.
There's another fee.
Yeah, what's the other fee?
Above the 10th floor.
Oh, dress rental.
No, dress rental.
Oh, my God, oh my God.
Dress rental.
100.
Unless you want me to come in my jeans.
Yes, that's what she says.
Wait, can I point out you're sort of in Magita Red?
Megita Red.
You sort of came dressed today in Megita Reddha.
Red dance.
Red dance.
Way.
Pantone color of the year.
Megita Redd.
Magita Red.
Anyway, but it was pure heroin.
Okay, let's talk about pure heroin.
I also had formative experience with it.
It's when I started.
With Pure Heroin.
Like, king weed in college.
Okay, so, okay.
Yeah, so, talk about it.
Well, I felt like, there's lots to say.
The, the, I feel like there are these moments, you know, like, Bjork and Kate Bush and, like, Rosalia, like, subverting pop and just redefining it.
And I felt, you know, Lord, who has since become such a dear friend.
And so all of these memories are so hysterical.
Oh, yeah.
and even more important than they were then
because I get to love her so much
for the quality of human being that she is.
She was like a couple years older than me
and I was 14 when pure heroin came out
and that week that it came out,
she was having a show at the Fonda in L.A.
So cool to see her there back then.
And I went and it was the first show I've ever seen
where like the concept of potentially performing
was like that was the first time I was ever not,
like absolutely fucking never because that's what it was before that no that's what it was like
forever yeah but seeing her know herself and also just be up there and command the crowd and not
have like this flashy it was just her she was she had her like long curly black hair and she was
wearing this huge like it felt like a cape like this long black dress and it was just her and it
just blew my mind and rocked my world.
And I feel like it's always stuck with me in that same way.
Yes, of course, because we were in college when Royals came out.
I remember this.
I was living in Crown Heights.
I was like, I don't know what my life is.
I got to figure this out.
I pulled out of med school applications.
I was like, I got to really rethink things.
But something about pure heroin, like soundtracked.
Like, I think it's timestamp.
But I think it timestamps everyone's life.
Yes.
You know, and within a certain, like, age bracket or whatever in terms of, like, whatever you were going through, it's pure heroin.
It's all, it's like.
Agre.
And I loved how dark it was.
Yep.
Yep.
Yeah.
And I think when you're, like, a Tumblr, middle schooler.
And it just was, it was exactly perfect.
It was exactly perfect.
I'll never forget, like, really listening to 400 Lux.
And I was like, how old is she?
It really didn't make any sense.
And all those sounds were kind of new.
She's like 800.
Yeah.
it's pretty wild
He's like an owl inside
Yes
Her beautiful body
There was just there was just something that was so like
Yeah
I'll just
That was one I in the West Village
This was it for me
West Village in my tiny apartment
Smoking weed for the first time
And walking around the West Village
Like we're getting good at this
Yes exactly exactly
And like I was just like
The girl was 14 years old
than I'm vibing out.
Yeah, totally.
But also, I felt like,
because she, she, I think she's like two years older than me.
And I was like, I feel like there was,
that was just the time where I was like really yearning to like break free.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean? And that album makes you want to like leave.
Have experiences.
Just makes you want to leave.
Yeah, go somewhere else.
And I didn't have my license yet and all this.
So it would be like long walks.
Yeah, exactly.
Our exit music.
Ooh.
That's good for later.
You guys have so many great segments on this show.
Can I tell you?
That's shocking to hear because they literally sat us down
the first day we ever had the podcast.
I was like, oh, before we record,
you guys should probably have segments.
And we were like, oh.
Oh, wow.
I don't think so, honey.
Yeah.
Did you come up with it on the spot?
On the spot, we were like.
It was something we used to say to each other.
Are you still working with those people?
Which person?
No.
Oh.
So don't you feel kind of?
But the beautiful thing about the podcast is
As much as people say otherwise, it really hasn't changed.
Like, formally, it's been the same.
He starts to impress.
What year is this of last college?
You know, the beautiful thing about the podcast a year?
This is really, right.
DNA is really the same.
And on Peacock.
Are we on a radio show?
We're on a radio show.
But how long has it been now that you've been?
10 years.
What the hell?
Yeah.
When did you first hear that we were a podcast?
I mean, it's like always been in my heart.
Really?
It's one of those things, though, truly where I actually,
you know when you can't remember a time before or something?
Totally.
That's sort of like...
It's true.
So it was...
First was Lord,
then a few years later
we decided to do the podcast.
It's true.
I think if there's no pure heroin,
there's no lost culture.
Yes.
Wow.
Because I never start smoking weed then.
Exactly.
And that is the link.
That is the link between everything.
Truly.
Wait, what's your favorite song on the album?
Yeah, come on.
I think ribs.
Yeah.
Kind of a classic.
I think it just like, that's the one I would choose.
Distill.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And I also think it's like
I loved her last album so much.
And also again, I feel like all of her albums
they came at the exact correct time.
And this one last year came out
the first day of Glastonbury.
Or no, yeah, the Friday of Glastonbury.
Yeah.
And we were in the mud.
We were, I wish it was muddy.
We didn't.
It wasn't a muddy?
People like, people were so stoked.
It was that.
That was my first one and we were playing Friday night at like 7.30.
It was like the best weekend of my life.
But her album came out that morning and she had a surprise show and I wasn't on festival grounds yet.
But I sat and I got ready to go listening to her album.
And it was just, it's the exact same feeling.
It feels like you're like being like plugged into your life.
Oh, that's a great way to put it.
I just love her.
What's the, have you guys?
She's not been on the show.
She actually was supposed to come in and then we had to reschedule or it just
didn't end up happening for that cycle, but she's been floating around the pod for a while.
She's just the coolest.
Yeah.
She's so cool.
Yeah.
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The definition of what is a movie has kind of changed anywhere, too, right?
What do you think it is now?
It's images and words being spoken, captured by some sort of technology.
Danny McBride.
He loves Mouthing.
Oh, that's fantastic.
And you make it on, you make your own.
That's great.
I call him Terro Reed.
It's a good name.
They're all named after cast members of American Pie.
Gotcha.
I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobieski.
Yeah, I don't think she was an American pie, but I still like that.
Haven't looked it up.
Haven't looked it up.
She was prominent around the same time.
Yeah.
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Another common thread.
You are speaking,
you speak of a lot of people
whom you love
in terms of
like a past life maybe.
Not that you're saying
about this about Lord,
but it's like
she's 800 years old
there's an owl inside her.
Yeah, yeah.
Like there's something spiritual.
Do you see the animals
in everyone?
Do you see that? Yes.
And who are we?
That's beautiful.
See the animals in us.
You are reminding me
of a bumblebee.
Oh!
I've never heard that.
You are.
I've heard seal
and I've heard every
bad dinosaur.
What the hell?
I think I have a lot of friends
that want to knock me down.
Yeah.
Sea Lion for that
and I see the sea lion
content is coming up
on your reels now too.
It is a lot of times
I'll be on reels now
and I'll just flick, flick, flick
and then I'll see
or, or, or, or I'm like,
they know it's me.
Yeah, yeah.
I hate when it's the videos
of them in an institution.
I know.
Okay, so then I posted this one great video.
Sometimes it's a rehabilitation center and I understand.
And I think that's what it was because someone did get in my DMs.
And I did clock that everything else before they had said was also nasty.
But they were like, why are you posting this captivated animal?
I'm like, okay, I really just loved his energy.
Yeah, it's everyone so eager.
Everyone's so punk on the internet.
No, we have to contact.
Tip touch.
Touch.
God, my converse really ruins the vibe
I shouldn't have worn in socks today
No, no, no, no, you should have, I should have to.
But now I don't want to wear, I want to show my ankles
because you're going to make fun of them.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you should know, no, no, no, no, no, they're going to smell.
Oh, no, wait, now I'm self-conscious.
Wait, I'm loving the side, right?
Oh, they're freaking out.
No, no, no, no.
Oh, and they're perfect feet.
Well, not, not now, after a petty.
Sorry, that was tech.
Hold on, no, no, I'll do, I'll do this, no, no, I'll do this, no, no, hold on.
Matt leans over, rips my shoes off, both of them.
Perfect feet.
Perfect feet.
I'm in fact going to get on WikiFeat make a profile.
And then rate me?
Right.
11 out of 10.
I think it's better with the sock.
It's better with the sock.
And no one look at me now.
If you went home and there was like a bot farm, that would be so funny.
If you just had a million phones in a room.
Yeah, it's me saying block crazy April.
Trust me.
Trust me.
It's me.
Running the bot farm.
That would be good.
And you're a hummingbird to me.
Sorry.
A bee and a hummingbird?
Aren't we rivals?
We're rivals.
In the fields?
What?
Are you?
I just feel like a bee and a hummingbird.
They do a lot of the same stuff.
We're both going for the flower.
But maybe there's friends.
Pecking order, though, is it?
I think, well, I guess it would depend what kind of bee.
Because there's, of course, the queen bee, who's the top head honcho.
Would you like that?
The worker bees.
Okay, you seem connected to the worker bee.
No, I just kind of, I want some worker bees.
Oh, you lie.
I see.
What's Gracie?
What's Gracie?
I don't, no pressure.
Wow.
I have one.
Gazelle.
I was going to say gazelle.
Really?
Well, because you're a gazelle.
It's not that weird that we both said it.
Why?
What does that equate?
Great, earthy.
One that is inspiring to the other grassland animals to leap higher, faster, stronger.
Yes, earthy, but can ascend.
Thank you.
That's very nice.
One who the lions are trying to get.
But they're often not quick enough because they're thinking one step ahead of these lions.
Famously, gazelle is absolutely never get attacked by lions.
It just doesn't happen because they're so much smarter and quicker.
It's like every doc is like them getting their necks like whipped out.
Well, the lion to the bots.
I'm like trust.
The lions of the bots.
We cannot give them that much power.
Famous a god.
No.
Bots cannot be.
No.
No.
They're hyenas.
They're vultures.
They're vultures.
And we're not dead.
Yet.
And we're not dead yet.
No.
Fly somewhere else, you freaks.
Yeah, whatever.
The thing about Taylor, when she goes, I have a very strong opinion that when you are young,
you just feel things more intensely.
I'm like, that is tea.
Do you feel like you feel things less as you age?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Really?
Yeah.
Because there's fewer new feelings or why?
Or because is it perspective and like right sizing?
I think it's one third my Lexapro dosage.
I think it's one third.
third what you said.
Yeah.
And I think it's one third.
Memory loss.
Yeah.
That's the dream recipe.
Honestly, it's just with the doctor order.
I didn't even think of memory loss because I forgot it.
I literally have that.
No, you don't.
You guys.
Are you a stoner?
Of course.
Okay.
So maybe.
And I've actually like, I'm right now in a, in a period of like compared to before times.
Yes.
Basically no compared to before times.
because there's a lyric on the album
where you're like the weed from when we were 17
is like catching up to us I'm not butchering it
no no that's basically it
so like what are you getting at
the the lyric that comes before that
is my brain half melted down so
for sure
well don't buy weed on the street in New York City
well I'm chronic New York weed is just a nightmare
it's evil I also have a feeling that unless
you're like with the exact right person in the exact right room
weed in New York period regardless of where you got it
can also be
like insidious.
It's crazy.
And I think it's because I've been getting overstimulated recently in a new way that I feel.
And then I was like, that's embarrassing.
And that's my fault.
That's no one's fault.
That's like I should just know myself now.
Overstimulated?
Oh, wait.
Don't.
Don't be bashful.
Don't you dare do that film acting towards us.
Oh my gosh.
She's got a future.
Here's the thing.
I don't know a bigger stoner than that person over there, Jared Frieder.
And he smokes my weed and he has to lay down.
and he says you're crazy.
Because it's so heavy.
I feel sad.
I go in there and I'm like, I'm like, I guess I'm just looking for some pre-rolls.
And they're like, well, what do you want?
And I'm like, what do you have that's rolled in Keith?
Oh, God.
And they're like, oh, you're going to love this stuff, man.
I don't know why I'm talking like a monster truck driver, but that's the energy.
What scary place do you go?
Ventura Boulevard.
No, there is one there.
And I live next door to it.
Are you guys stoner's at the moment?
Yeah, I know, I know.
But what is that?
Is that because they're, like, daily, daily, daily a clock?
No, I was going to yesterday last night and I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to not.
Yeah.
And it was totally fine.
I got a raw dog it more.
Yes, I think, I think what I've been learning recently is that there's, it's, for some reason right now, the, the, it feels like a 50-50 chance of it, like, landing or really, like, sending me.
Well, when you say you get over-stimulation,
is that when you're not stoned or when you're when you're when you're sober that you're like oh I need it
sobra I feel like um this particular like month there's just lots to be engaging with it's it's just like
and it doesn't even not in a I just it feels like I want to be ready yeah yeah and I think that
um I'm impaired when I'm impaired right now 100% I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess
for me sometimes. I'm high when I'm high. I'm kind of like, I think when I'm high, I'm actually high.
And I, so it just is a little bit iffy these days. But, but, but then I have this fantasy, like,
of, you know, like an evening that starts at 4 p.m. and then the next day isn't, no obligations.
Yeah. That would be, you know what I mean? That would be wonderful. Also, living not here anymore.
Right. Yeah. You know, I don't smoke weed at all in,
London.
So because they don't allow it.
Yeah.
And I think, like, if we think New York wheat is scary, like, I don't know.
I don't know what's even going on in London.
I just haven't engaged.
And, of course, pub culture, they're like, you're like, it's bright outside, have a
drink.
And then they're like, it's dark outside, have a drink.
You're like, whoa.
I'm so jealous of London because they're getting a Universal Studios.
What?
Oh, yeah.
Congrats.
You love that stuff.
Yeah.
Love.
Let's go right now.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's fly down.
Play Pure Heroin.
Ball.
album's going to do it. Amazing.
We're leaving straight to Universal.
Did, what was your last, because they also
seemingly love you.
We love to sort of go, maybe even more than you love them.
London?
No, the Universal show goes.
London likes us too.
London likes us too. No, and we love London.
I'm doing my Christmas show in London this year.
Oh my God.
When? Eilington Hall.
Is LinkedIn Hall?
Islington Hall?
I played, we played there.
And I got tattoos.
the day we played lots of shows. I got tattoos
the day we played that in venue. I have
such a long list for you. Oh my god,
yay! And also you have to come
over. I know. Will you be around in November?
Actually, wait.
November 15th? No.
Oh, come on. Please.
Cancel the flight. The team is like
you're not around, Mama. Oh, wait,
November. Yeah.
What is it?
We're in rehearsals. Oh, yeah. Well, I think this is coming out
after we've announced the tour so we can just say
that's what we're whispering about.
in rehearsals for tour maybe I'll quit the tour by the way we just come to your show we we spoke earlier about the crowd
happenings I also want to say your performance was fucking great that was so generous of you to be there and and I
vaguely recall can we say what happened yeah I was going to say vaguely recall there was no ticket for you
I get there I'm excited to see Gracie I go hi I think I'm on the list of Matt and also of course I wasn't
on my fucking phone till after the show so then of course you were crazy saying I'm like
check my phone and Matt's like
hey I'm outside
and I'm like I'm gonna kill it
no no so I ended up buying a ticket
and me Jared and our friend were there
and it ended up being exactly what needed to happen
I'm so sorry
no I needed her already had his ticket
thank you I was gonna be like
I was gonna be at that seat kind of by myself
and then they were like oh okay well we just bought tickets
so I was like I'm buying a ticket went in the pit
and I needed to be there so that you could see the
so I can interact with all my friends
L.A.
shows are very weird.
How come?
Well, I think a couple things.
I think every tour in the history
of the world comes through L.A.
Yes.
So I think there's like a kind of
closet.
They're just not that excited
about live shows. I always start
my tour there because I'm like
I don't want to come here later
and then be like, what happened? Am I worse than I just was?
Totally. I think also because I grew up there,
I always have a fondness
which helps make up for the like
anticipation of it being less like
vibrant sometimes
in the crowd. But I also
my my curiosity
for those who attend shows in LA
is like why not
lean in because you're only
enriching the experience if everyone's kind of like
going nuts. Yeah of course.
For anyone else who's not me.
Not me. I'm just like
do you know like the like because touring
is like the least cynical, like most whole, like going to a show, seeing anything live.
It's like you're spending money, spending energy, you're getting dressed up, you're making
a plan with friends probably, or you're even braver going alone.
Yeah.
And it's like you're singing with strangers.
It's my favorite experience.
And I will say, I've seen incredible shows in L.A. mostly they happen at the Greek.
I love the Greek.
Which is the best.
I love the Greek.
We had like a Greek era, Jared and I.
Have you been to the Greek, though, like in seeing a show at the Greek?
Never.
Oh, really?
I don't think I've ever, I was, my first L.A. concert maybe was going to be, oh no, was Lily Allen.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Oh, yeah, we saw Lily.
That was in L.A.
That was in L.A.
At the Orphium.
At the Orphium.
We did the cultural awards last year.
Oh, my God.
I was going to go with Jared to Tate McCray one day.
Oh.
That would have been fun.
At MSG?
No, at the Greek.
Oh, at the forum.
Oh, at the forum.
Oh, at the forum.
The forum.
Anyway, whatever.
We saw Maggie Rogers at the Greek.
We saw Casey Mosker's at the Greek.
That's perfect.
I've seen twice.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
Imogen.
Image and heap.
Did she glove?
It was really cool.
That might have been the first concert we saw together, Image and Heap.
Honestly, like, so not to shit on LA shows because there are so many special moments that have.
No, also, it's like I really, I have such a fondness.
And it is, it's crazy to get to play shows there, period, because there are venues that I, like, grew up going to.
Yeah.
So I know them well.
You haven't done Coachella, have you?
No.
I want that
I want that
but um
she's saying nothing but touching feet
but touching feet interesting
I was wanting to ask
that's our Easter egg
throughout the whole episode
every time like
just see if they pick up on it
so the readers are noting that
they touched feet
at several different points during the episode
I feel like what
because we went there
and I feel like there's an attitude
amongst artists that like
weekend one of Coachella is bad
and weekend two of Coachella is good.
Is that a thing you can confirm that artists talk about?
I have heard that in the discourse
just probably exactly as much as you have.
But I wonder if it's...
About ripping the band, breaking the seal?
Yeah, maybe.
Or like, I'm like, are there more like...
I was just going to ask,
are there more activations weekend one?
There's...
They are like, I roll.
They are a plenty.
Yeah.
They are plenty.
I've been to Coachella in a long time.
I went in high school,
and it was so fun.
And then this past summer, Glastonbury was our first of the festival run.
And it has ruined everything for me.
I bet.
Have you done it?
No.
You guys, it's the best.
It's like, I can't even begin to like.
I think UK festivals, I mean, we only have one data point, which was Mighty Hoopla.
So fun.
It's the gay one.
It's the queer one.
It's an incredible name.
It's so funny.
And it was.
Where is that?
That's like, oh my God.
It's on, um, it's.
Oh, it's a neighborhood down.
Neighborhood down.
It's a neighborhood down.
It's a neighborhood down.
It's in a neighborhood down.
Couldn't tell you.
Wait.
When are they going to get Percy Pigs to the States?
Let's leave the charge.
I don't know.
Do you love them so much?
So much.
I like them too.
Okay, well, you don't care.
I think they're so common these days.
Oh, my God.
She loves Skittles.
Do you have a favorite candy?
Um, I'm like-
This is the question we ask every guest
What was the candy that made you say candy was for you?
Um, what's my favorite candy at Reese's pieces?
Come on, that's chocolate.
It's barely chocolate.
Girl.
Girl.
That's not that I've ever seen it.
Pick a candy or else?
Um, while I ate, I ate a candy yesterday.
Which was?
Which was a sour pickle belt.
What?
What the fuck?
Who is she?
It was so good.
What's up with you guys in your personals?
Oh.
Okay.
She didn't want to talk about candy anymore.
No, I mean all day, but...
No, for real.
For real.
But this is the thing.
No, let's talk about our personal.
Just what's going on.
You guys are so busy.
Well, my personal is...
I'm happy because we're busy.
Yeah.
I like being busy doing anything.
I guess over well, like in a pariscial way,
overwhelmed for the both of you.
No.
There's no need.
That you think we're too busy?
Not too, but just you're doing like so much at such a high level that I think like, how, how?
I'm coming off of plain psychosis
For sure
Like travel psychosis
Yes well I mean I think back to when you were like doing
Wicked I mean I'm wicked and SNL
I'm like how the hell
And like I just think sometimes
It was it was a how the hell for sure
Now in retrospect I think we're happy
That Wicked is out there and that you're in it
Oh but during it
Yeah you had to do it
I had to there was no way I wasn't going to do
both you know what I mean
gay guy that's offered wicked.
And they tell you, and you say, well, what's the role?
And you say, well, you're going to be Ariana Grande's sort of gay best friend.
And so they, and then you go, okay, yeah.
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I think we're having another like 2024 moment.
Like girl.
There's so much music coming out.
It's the best news.
It's so cool.
I was watching someone react to Short and Sweet.
And I remember texting you about Short and Sweet when it came out.
Yes.
And you were like, I can't believe she just swooped in and made the album of the year at the last second.
Yeah, yeah, I know.
It's, I'm sorry.
But also, what can't she do?
And, like, I think, I feel like all of us at this point are done being surprised by how phenomenal.
She's just cemented, like, forever, forever, forever.
Yeah.
I'm like, there's like, you know.
And I'm also, like, talk about someone who I wish would take an app for the sake of her heart and soul.
What do I know?
And she seems like, I mean, she's glowing harder than ever.
You guys are all coming up and solidifying.
together at the same time in a generation
that feels very cool. You're a part of like
a cool class of pop girlies.
I love them. I'm just happy
to be here today. Are you on a group chat for you all?
No.
Not necessarily. It's a group chat
called Slade 2024 and now 2026.
2024 is back.
24 we're so back.
It's the two year anniversary of 2020.
Yeah, exactly. Do you ever go into Soho
and like hang? Like not all.
Often.
No.
I don't know a lot of it.
Is that a weird thing for you to do?
No,
there's a couple of yommies.
There's some yummy.
And even to Mountain.
No.
What's so good about the mountain?
The Mountain.
It is basically like the mountain.
It's so good.
It's just a really delicious restaurant.
It's like super, super fresh, like, yummy, like small plates, but also like big plates.
Well, we love DeSchum.
We love to shoem.
I love to shoem so much.
We ate it to shoem twice last time.
the time like three times a week yeah deliver it to shim yeah my code is 24 if you need it
slay 2024 did you guys you shot in london was it at what's it called leaves den and we did
elstree and then we went we shot like all the shit stuff like in this um literal astro turf farm
because they got to grow it because it's fake because it was real well i understand oh sorry astro turf
not real it was never clear it was never clear if it was like it was astro turf and then it was fake like
Why don't you just make it in the factory?
But they needed to lay it out or something.
Make it in the factory.
Just make it in the factory.
Just make it in the factory.
All of the air, just make it in the factory.
And then we would stay at the Grove, which is all the way out.
But anyway, we love to shooam and it's fine.
It's amazing.
No, it's not fine.
It's an excellent.
And I heard a room where they're bringing it to America.
Wow, great.
Did I make that up?
No, you didn't.
Wow.
They really are.
New York.
I love their sauces.
Their chutneys and such.
Oh my God.
They're chicken biryani, Britannica.
Britannia.
Britannica.
Chicken Britannica.
He's probably your drag name.
Oh my God.
That's good.
Chicken Britannica.
That's good.
And I'll be pork Britannica.
Yeah.
You're not pork.
What am I?
You're not pork.
I roll.
I roll.
I'm veal.
I'm veal Britannica.
Yes.
Wow, I love that for me.
Wait.
I just winked at your team.
I'd made eye contact with her.
And I got.
I'm always doing shit like that with them.
Do you love the team?
I love everyone so much.
Oh, give yourself a hand.
Give it out for the team.
It's really, I'm the luckiest in the universe.
So you're loving, your loving life, it's going to be an incredible sum.
It's going to be a sum.
It's going to be a sum.
It's going to be a busy.
Yes.
But, but like, thank God.
Thank God.
And I think, I think there's so much to return.
to at home as well.
Yeah, that's good. I love,
I also love
learning what it's like to be at home
to. Congrats on your cultural award
nomination. Thank you so much.
We were both touched beyond
belief. Beyond belief. And there were so
many options of them.
I was like,
Bail.
We did it. We did it, hon.
Wait, he wanted a picture with me
when he was at SNL.
Oh, that was, I, that was, that
was I loved that episode
of course he was so funny
we wrote him the craziest sketch in the world
was you talking about the
oh
wait was she in
she was oh of course
yeah she was in the flesh
she was in the flesh she was not in that episode of SNL
god that was amazing the fact
first of all the fact that like end
credits
it's Paul and Trisha
Trisha Pade
I was like I can
I can go now by the way
Trisha is television's biggest star
She stars on hacks
And she also was on
Was she on the comeback?
She was on euphoria just now
Yeah she was on euphoria
I don't know
Trisha is all over television
Are you guys dear friends
Bowen knows Trisha
I spent one day with her
I just didn't know
I was like it didn't know where in the like
Because I just of course like the rest
I have a million
Of course questions
Like I just want to know everything
Well the best was when we went to go see
Lily Allen's show
And then there's a bit in the show
Will Lillian points to Madeline.
This woman rises up and Bowen is like,
is that Trisha?
And it was Trisha Paitis.
By the way, the next night, it was Lisa Rana.
I saw that.
Incredible.
I saw that.
Do you have Bravo takes?
Well, so you've been my guide.
Yeah.
That was definitely not the start of us loving each other.
No.
Or me loving you.
I can't speak for you.
But it was the secret of us.
It was the secret of us.
It was the.
Sex.
sort of worked. That was really nice. That's really good. Thanks. It was really nice. I've just
done Salt Lake. Yeah. Or I've died a while ago. Can I ask? Big polls from Salt Lake. Where do
you stand? Who is who's your girl? What's scary again about like the memory of it all is I don't
even remember where we left them. Totally. That's, I think, fine. Where did we leave them?
Oh, oh. Probably upset on an island.
about Whitney
Bronwynne.
Bronwyn and Bronwyn
and Bronwyn left her shoes not
in her relationship.
Oh yes she announced that she's getting a divorce
That was where we left it right?
Yes, yes.
She and taught her not together.
What are my takes?
She now dates a male model.
Incredible.
Yeah.
Oh, but Survivor, not Bravo.
What if there's a Bravo Survivor crossover?
Can I pitch that?
I think you just did.
Imagine.
And this is the place where manifestation happens.
Survivor?
Wait, we were just talking about the season.
This is going to come out, like, soon.
Heather Gay is, like, taking everyone down.
I think Heather Gay would be good.
Heather Gay would be great.
You guys are different.
She'd be like, you have no idea what I'm fighting for at home.
What was her, what was her, what was her?
I want to win Survivor.
What was her line, season one of Salt Lake?
I'm devastated.
Like my, like my pioneer ancestors.
I'm blazing a new trail.
I'm blazing a new trail.
I'm blazing a new trail.
Just like my pioneer ancestors.
I've never been so happy.
Favorite is, is, my favorite is.
If you come from me, I will send Jesus after you.
Who is that?
Maryam Cosby herself.
Oh, yeah, of course.
And Meredith's jealousy is a disease, to which I say, get well soon.
To which I say.
Which I say.
We've said syntactically makes no sense.
She's saying to the disease.
To see is a disease.
To which I say, get well soon.
There are, that is.
She should keep speaking and not making sense.
It's her whole bag.
It's her whole thing.
God.
can leave.
Well, you didn't speak up for me at all.
Yeah, the eyes.
Well, you didn't speak up for me at all.
She's recording us?
You have to leave.
It's the looking down the, there's the like head to look well.
I have a question.
What's the goal?
What's the goal?
Well, she can fuck off.
It's a never-ending wheel of way you can say words.
That is just.
Fuck off.
It's very Brian Cox.
It is.
I would love to see.
Actors and actors, Meredith Marks and Brian Cox.
Yeah, can you do it one more time?
Fuck off.
And he turns around.
Yeah.
And then turns around.
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
It's succession.
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
You went a little.
Oh, Helena better get you saying fuck off in the movie.
I will put that in whatever my next conversation is.
You ever like give each other a word to drop in a, in a, in like,
an interview or something. No, should we do that?
I dare you to do fuck a wolf.
Fuck wolf. Okay, so we should do that.
We're going to be, we're about to be doing a lot of interviews together, but this will come
out, I think, after all those interviews. So now let's say, let's choose. This is an Easter egg.
This is an Easter egg. McGita Perez. Okay. Okay. Yep.
That should be easy, to be honest. Okay. What interview is going to be the hardest
one to drop Magita Perez. Are you guys doing? Now watch what happens live, the nonsense.
New York Times cooking. How many times have you done that?
Watch what happens? I think this is my 10th appearance. Is it fun?
So fine.
And so quick.
I feel like I need more.
Context.
No, no, no.
Just more, well, yes, of the Bravoverse.
Like, I feel, I would feel like a bit of a fraud, I think being across from him and like speaking on anything.
Sally Field was on the other than I didn't know shit about Bravo, but she's Sally Field.
But she can do it.
She can do it every one.
Well, that's you.
You're Sally Field too.
Don't even look at me like that.
Never, never even.
What, like Sally Field?
Don't look at me like Sally.
That's a.
Real Culture number eight.
Don't look at me like Sally.
You said to role model every night when he opened for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do not look at that.
Wait, what's our word for Gracie?
Oh, for me.
For you to drop in an interview.
Give me anything.
Piss.
No, wait, wait.
Ding dong.
Ionic.
Ding dong.
Happily.
Okay. If, if.
Ionic.
It's crazy.
Ionic.
Just describe some.
That could, that's like, it's like whether they are they,
ask a question like what's it like writing
a song it's like there's this ionic
I was gonna say like that you lean
against I wanted to describe
I wanted to explore like a more ionic sound
on this album and
it works I buy it because
people are gonna be like yeah people
love that shh and then some people are gonna
be like what the fuck is she talking about what do you have to be
brave enough they block me
to traffic in that confusion
they block you
don't understand why anyone would
what new music are you guys
liking these days.
Mona.
Yeah, of course.
Moona.
Do you guys listen to underscores?
Oh, no.
Talk about this.
Listen to the beginning of this.
Just like.
Yeah.
Isn't it beautiful?
Kind of image and like.
Wait, I've heard this.
But it's kind of like.
Fuck, I love it.
Oh, it's a gag.
It's really good.
Have you put this on a playlist and sent it to me and I did like each other.
He always does that.
Um, Sue B Club?
You would love CB Club.
It's very like punk, but with this kind of like...
Okay, you're a Slater fan.
I saw you at Coachella.
And Tom Mish.
Oh, amazing.
I've been spending that album for weeks.
Some of my friends are deeply obsessed and in it,
and I need to kind of like spend more time there.
In the Tom world?
Hot little British guy, you know?
Incredible.
We love that.
Right now I'm very...
Kiss me and I'm a drop-down.
Oh, of course.
Of course.
I'm kind of dropped dead.
Every time the radio comes on.
And I have to say I...
Follow me there.
Can't believe begged.
The second show she sang on SNL.
I know.
She's a freak.
She's such a freak.
Her voice has never sounded better somehow.
Yeah.
It's just the control.
I'll say the same thing for you, by the way.
And wait, can we just, before we do, I don't think so honey, actually talk about your amazing work.
I just want to say, like, we were listening to, Jared and I listened to it together, hit the wall.
can you just talk about like finding all this bigness in your sound?
Because you've always had big emotions and I feel like this sounds sonically is even bigger
and matching those emotions now.
Is that something you strove for?
Well, I think it was just like being in, the whole thing was informed by having been on the road for the past few years.
But like really diving into the production process once it ended.
And I think that there was a lot of like more patience or like space.
in this album actually or it felt like it matched my sort of internal rhythm being off road off road
when you were off when you were off tour you were off the road when tour ended and so I feel like
there's this kind of to me conversation in the album between having space and then also when songs
do want to build we were very intricate in the production of so many vocal layers and where you know
I felt like the story would benefit from that kind of impact.
And it was a real treat to make.
I don't know.
We were, it was all very thoughtful.
And Aaron and I made this together again.
This is our sixth year working together.
And I love him because he's not like, he sort of reminds me, at least, that you don't need to make some radical change in order to like have your next album be a valid step.
step forward in your kind of like artistry or just being a person.
It's like it can just accurately reflect where you're at.
And to me this felt like it felt like the most elevated version of all of the ways that we've
written and worked together in the past.
Like there's his Gothic fulky sounds that he's like mayor of Gothic Folk Town.
And like what if it's right and humming do things like that?
And then like Good Reason feels like a sister song to I Love You I'm Sorry.
ways to me, but like, different.
And then, like, look at my life.
We wrote to a pulse, which we do all the time.
Or, like, cold goodbyes.
We just did one instrument in my vocal.
Or, like, hit the wall felt like, I don't know.
There are all these kind of, like, trances that envelop us in the studio.
And this was a real heavenly experience to do it.
And I'm grateful to him because I was how to have.
having this like on tour toward the end where everyone has been on the bus and with each other
and just like the energy and the kind of like social like being on and the where you're sort of like
white knuckling in a way that is full of gratitude but also like survival mode a bit in order to get
through I was just so my voice inside my head was like not there anymore like I was so I just
I felt like absolutely gone.
And Aaron's music with no words and no vocal nothing like always sort of like presses
some button in me that like allows me to remember what I feel and remember my perspective
and hear myself again.
So this album was a surprise to me.
That's really interesting.
Like he he's amazing creates like escape for you to then like inhabit.
Yeah.
Like hear yourself again.
That's really cool.
I was thinking while I was listening to it that it's made for a live experience too.
Like daughter from hell is just going to be such a communal moment for everyone there, I feel.
I hope so.
And you do have them wanting that experience.
Well, they're really bringing it.
I get to just hang out and watch them have a good time.
It's really nice.
But that song in particular we wrote with this particular show in mind.
Not this album, but we were thinking about a specific festival.
experience. And that's on this amazing baritone guitar and it's just playing that. We've been in
rehearsals this past week for lots of things and playing that live with the band. It has to feel so
good. Yeah. And like it's interesting. It's so fun how quickly like already playing these
songs with the band. I'm like my favorite song is shifting around always. And so I think, you know,
just shout out to where are you at today, favorite song wise. I think the knife for some reason.
I love the knife. That song gets me. Fuck. It's so. It's so.
good live. Like it's such a band
song. Yes. And they're
all just such brilliant players. So everyone
who worked on this album, I'm addicted to.
And I admire so much. So it was
a joy. It's truly
well, thank you for sharing all that. That's so profound.
Thanks for listening and letting me talk about it. You didn't say ionic, so
whatever. Oh shit. Yeah, you just have to say ionic.
Well, maybe like tune into like
1 or 2.7. Kiss FM will be like
just the ionic
force. What? What?
Honestly, if an interviewer one day says,
so talk about the ionic nature of this album,
know that we sent them there.
I'll say ding-dong.
Yeah.
And it'll be this way.
And they'll come in with a million dollars.
It's a Mr. Beast challenge.
Anyways, with that in mind,
it is time for I don't think so, honey.
And really what it is,
is it's a one-minute segment on this podcast
where sort of cathartically,
tear down something in culture
that's been giving us some troubles.
I'm finally speaking truth about something
on this podcast.
Finally.
This is Matt Rogers.
I don't think so
when his time starts now.
I don't think so honey
sunglasses shopping
when you have a long head
and a bridge of your nose
that is what?
A little crooked.
It's especially complicated
by the fact that I'm colorblind.
I go in to a sunglass store,
shop, stand,
whatever it is,
any of those S locations.
And I am met with
Strife, another S.
Because basically I
can't, cannot
find a pair of sunglasses
that fit my face.
I am going to need them custom made.
I put them on.
It's a little bit askew.
I would rather they be full askew because then it could be a statement.
This is just nothing.
It's just a little bit wrong.
I already had the nose job.
Yep.
So now what?
Non-elective.
Medically.
I medically needed to have it.
15 seconds.
But they wouldn't let me use my insurance to cover it because they said it was elective.
But I say if you saw the cyst in my nose at the time,
you would know.
I couldn't have lived with it.
No.
I don't know how we got there,
but I don't think so honey,
sunglasses shopping.
Is that one minute?
That's nice.
Where was the cyst?
Oh, honey.
In there.
Right there.
I'll show you an old picture of my nose.
Could you not breathe?
So get this.
It didn't affect my breathing at all.
It was just like an inch long cyst.
Your doctors are like, it's elected.
No, no, no.
Jared was my boyfriend at the time I had the cyst.
Was that a medical necessity?
It was the definition of necessity.
Because it smelled, didn't it?
Everyone, stop.
This is my foot and my nose are my things to share.
Everyone stop.
This is my thing with sunglasses shopping.
Oh, I put on sunglasses.
I go to the mirror to see myself.
I can't see a damn thing in the news.
It's so dark all of a sudden.
That's a real culture.
Dark love of a sudden.
I put on sunglasses.
It's all dark all of a sudden.
Can't see a thing.
You have an amazing nose.
Thank you for saying that.
What do you mean?
Crooked.
Where?
You'll see.
If you really look, it's a little bit the bone here.
I don't.
I can't see, but I trust you, of course.
Is the crooked in the room with us?
I also have a, I also have a sunglasses problem.
Let me see.
It's fine.
Absolutely straight.
See, this is why I own these, though.
Oh, wow.
Did you get them fixed for you?
No, no, no.
This was.
Really?
Look at them.
Thank goodness.
Look at them.
Very Aussie.
Wow, out of the whole wicked soundtrack, I chose,
Thank goodness.
Like could have been
You're famous notes
You're Glinda
I'm gonna be Glinda
Dutton Durning your I don't think so honey
Okay so this is Bowen Yangs I don't think so honey
Do you have a topic on today?
I do
Fabious
This is Bose I don't think so honey
I always go to the wrong thing before I time
It his time starts
Now I don't think so honey
Reading taking such a long time
I want to read every damn
book in the world basically but it
takes a minute it
do take time.
What book?
Results in time.
I wish I could read a book in merely five minutes, but no.
I think I am on page 57, and I'm going to be on this page for the next six months.
And that's what sucks about reading.
A lot of great things about reading, but the worst, shittiest thing about reading.
30 seconds.
Is how you have to basically sit or stand and be visually uninteresting as this thing that has to
ferment in your brain takes hold.
I wish it were faster.
There's no real substitute for actual reading.
And I think we would be a much better society if we had, if our eyes moved faster,
if we could read words on top of each other, stacked on top of each other, but there's just no way around it.
Five seconds.
It's linear.
And I wish it were radial.
And that's one minute.
So what book is giving you trouble?
Yeah, I was going to say, drop it.
Middle March.
Oh, wow.
Oh.
I always try to have a middle March summer. I always try to have a middle March summer.
It doesn't. In fact, speaking of Wicked,
I keep putting it down. I keep putting it because it's a big, big book.
And I had, well, that's what I was going to say, like, of course, that would take anyone time.
It would take anyone time. But I had it on the set of Wicked. And then Cynthia was like,
what book is that? I was like, it's Middlemarch by George Elliott. And it's actually a
a woman, whatever. This was her pseudonym. She goes, I'll read that. I'll read it. Yeah, I was going to say, I'll read it. I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going on the day. I was going to read it in a week. And I was like, she does everything fast.
Have you seen a run?
I know.
I was like,
Cynthia.
I listened to this while
I ran the marathon.
She is like,
I was playing Dracula.
She's like,
he's like a super human.
She is incredible.
Have you seen you play Dracula?
I haven't.
I play it 27 different ways.
Have you seen it?
No.
No, because I do it.
No, because I do it.
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
I am it.
Maybe it's,
I don't think so, honey,
like,
well,
actually,
no, I can't.
Do you ever start to talk like this?
No.
Is it Irish accent harder than now?
Hell,
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's talking crazier, man.
He's talking all sorts of shit.
Are you ready for your, I don't think so, honey?
I think so, yeah.
Okay.
I have, I, I, do you keep, like, a bunch of them in your head, or do you have one that's been?
Well, what was concerning me is that I, I, which I think is also, like, maybe, maybe pleasant, but then I was thinking about the two of you.
I was like, I, I, I, I, don't.
Don't.
Don't think about us.
I was, like, I was like, I, even as I, as I, as I, because I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I,
even in this moment, I'm like, there's a couple that I could go with.
And I might say them all.
Follow your heart.
Say them all.
If they all come out, they all come out.
I might list them all.
This is Gracie Abrams.
I don't think so, honey.
Your time starts now.
Okay.
I don't think so, honey, travel etiquette addition with love and understanding that everyone
operates in their own individual way.
Sure.
My personal hope and dream is that in public spaces, like, not to go back to the feet.
Please.
But I feel it's fascinating, the impulse.
when we're on a plane 30,000 feet up in the air
in a metal tube that we're taking our socks all the way off.
That fascinates me.
I've also recently been on a flight
where people were clipping their nails on the flight.
Flight attendants are angels in the sky.
Yes.
Forget everyone you're sitting next to you.
You're making everyone uncomfortable.
They are seeing that, and that's their space.
So I would just say, please.
Another thing is, when you're going through TSA,
you have to put the tray back in the thing.
Oh, get bad.
And then you feel performative beyond when you put everyone else's not a nice feeling.
No.
And then my last two are, oh shit.
Go, stay both.
The mouth of the, of the machine when the bags are coming out.
Yeah.
We bum rush.
If everyone took a step back, we'd have air to breathe and we would have room to see.
And we'd have also room to stretch post-flight.
And I just think these are things to maybe consider.
And I'll leave it there.
I don't think so, honey.
has been completed in one minute and 16 seconds.
Do you know what the other thing was?
Because you said there were two things
that you decided to leave it there,
but there's something else.
I just think,
I don't think,
I don't think so honey,
like,
Sig shaming anyone but yourself.
Oh, okay, got it.
Cigarette shaming?
Totally.
Don't cigarette shamed other people.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, everyone is doing their best.
Yeah, I would agree.
Are you a smoker?
Like, everyone's in a while.
Everyone, I do it on vacation.
Every once in a while.
Yeah.
It's a sunny Saturday.
Yeah.
Or,
you gotta do it
or I've had one to five drinks
yeah I'm just saying like I'm so fascinated
by the policing of certain behaviors
and I'm like I get it like I understand
and we all have the same information
exactly and therefore like you don't know what's going on
everyone's lives I do have to be a vaporizer police
though I certainly am not on that wave
I and I know and I know
when I heard that story I stopped
I was on a line bike got off it
stop really
my god because I was like hold on
I was going too fast
I needed to slow down and hear you.
These behaviors.
Got off and then walked home.
And I would argue a line bike is sort of the vapes of vehicles.
Well, and then another I don't think so honey that I was sitting on was that like I don't think so honey.
City bikes don't have the phone holders.
Oh.
Which is for safety and for like a beautiful social kind of you can call your friend.
Like not in a dangerous way.
NGPS or whatever.
I know I know New York is a grid and I know London like you really need to know where you're going.
But London has the holders.
Yeah.
They do it all better
I know
No, let's come on
New York
New York is fantastic
But yeah
Anyway listen
This has been
Just thank you
Just thank you
No thank you so much
This is this podcast
What you guys make
Is a big part of the
You know
Joy of my every week
So thank you
And
I couldn't be more obsessed with you
I literally just couldn't be more grateful
And you guys are
I'm just
I wish it wasn't ending
I'm like it's not one o'clock
Well we
We've done a lot.
We've got Ionic back in the conversation.
Oh, yeah.
We've coined Megita Red.
Megita Redez.
Redez.
The original title of that was the Aubrey situation.
The Aubrey situation.
The Audrey situation.
The Audrey situation and music.
Then there's the Aubrey situation.
Do we Megita Perez?
No, Megita Redes.
You liked the Audrey situation.
I want people to stumble on Megita Perez the way that I did, which was not expecting
and being absolutely gobsmacked.
Okay, what's title of up?
You would set it.
I forget what it was, but it's in there.
Everything feet.
Everything feet.
Everything feet.
That feels perfect.
That's perfect.
Oh, they're going to flip.
Everything feet with Gracie Abrams.
Okay, well, looking forward to that, hitting your airwaves soon, which is now, actually.
Daughter from Hell.
Daughter from Hell.
And album is fantastic.
All of your music is.
Everything you do is exciting and great, and we love you.
And we'll see you.
We'll see you.
over Universal Studios, 2030.
See in 2030, guys.
We had every episode with a song.
What did we say we were gonna do?
Oh.
How does it start?
Dreams of green teens.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
Wait.
While you're waiting out front.
This is gonna be really good for everyone at home.
home again.
Wait, hold on, hold on.
I'm a stoner.
Wait, what is it?
No, no, no.
I hope you just leave in
when it's just Matt.
Like this.
You take me up and take me home again.
Why that key?
Anyway,
bye.
Bye.
Straight period.
Yay.
Yeah.
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