Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Everything Feet" (w/ Gracie Abrams)

Episode Date: August 5, 2026

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Starting point is 00:01:44 Listen to Podlandia. A.O. rewatch on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Is that culture? Oh, my goodness. Las cultureistas. Ding dong, Las Coulteristas calling. Why the pregnant pause? Oh, wait, hold on for podcasts or a visual medium. Matt and I, synergistic again. It kind of keeps happening.
Starting point is 00:02:13 So I come in today and I think there's no way that Bowen is going to wear a pop culture icon on his shirt today like I am because I'm kind of giving my icon Mariah. And you walk in clad in Brusley. You know, and I have my thing with Bruce Lee, which is just. someone who um looms large but I don't like I'm finally gonna come out as like a Bruce Lee stand I'm like it's only in my bedroom literally you like you know that like I have that Italian poster of this is a queer narrative
Starting point is 00:02:42 this is a queer narrative it just existed in your bedroom as a child and now it's roaring to life in public well all these politicians out here saying keep that in the bedroom to me directly yeah and you finally defied them here I am look at this I love this cut and color on you Similar to the cut in color on our guests. We got a lot of primary action happening in here. This is the day I meet my pen pal. This is like when you meet like your pen pal from when you were young, but just adult version.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I was going to say like when you have like, because you know when you were little, did they ever give you a pen pal from like a faraway school? Did you ever your program ever do this? Yeah, I want to say once or twice. So when I moved from Canada, all the kids wrote little postcards for me. Oh, that's so sweet. And then I think the first week we moved to Colorado, I was like, Dad, where are the postcards?
Starting point is 00:03:32 He was like, I can't find them. Shut the fuck up. Never read a thing. Of course. Yeah. Still thinking about it all these years later. You could cry now. If you feel like there's still some left in the tank, our guess would support it.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Oh, yeah. I haven't hydrated enough today. Well, I think. No, no, no. Are you kidding me? You want some of our guest's Arctic vibe, which yes, is in a cup and looks sick like poison. This is why, this is why Celsius does. doesn't come in a clear container.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Let's get into it. Let's really get into it what we came here to talk about today, which is what Celsius looks like in a clear container. Certainly not the excellent third album. It's a step forward. It's the third album down. Which was tough to do because we were already pretty forward. 100%.
Starting point is 00:04:14 I went to that concert. Bodies were hitting the ground. Bodies were hitting the ground. People were getting so overwhelmed. Bodies were hitting the ground. Well, you were saying these girls were like forming a circle, clutching each other. I've never seen anything like it.
Starting point is 00:04:27 girls grabbed hands and created like a ring. Beautiful. And it didn't matter who else was there. It was their floor. And I was like, yes. Nothing in the circle. No. Well, then that's tough.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Just their energy. Well, that's a lot of floor. That's a lot of area. If you wanted to get in there, you could have crawled under them. It just didn't feel right. It was their floor. I think you have something to say about that. You should address, like, just taking up the area.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Let's put our guest in. She's incredible in every way. Everyone welcome. Gracie Abrams! Take a more and more sip of Arctic. Of Arctic piss. Guys, this is the treat of my life to be here. And also, I don't want to speak.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I just want to, like, sip. You feel, do you know, there's like fever dream moments? Yes. Oh, I have to speak. Yeah. How about this? You name the episode today. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:16 No. Later. No. You have to. Fine, how about this? Okay, well, whatever you say, it's your house. We'll say it, and only if you confirm it, can it be. Great.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Because I feel like you're going to be the viability. be the vibe of saying the rules of culture with us today. Wow. I want you to. God, I mean, it's, I do it when I'm on the train in my headphones. Like, you'll say something and I will predict. And sometimes I'm surprised when you don't make something. Really? Oh, I know. Confirmed breeder. I guess we should say to. Yeah, big time. Finalist. Thank you. Well, of course, finalists. Cheers. Cheers. Can we say? Can we expose just how piss like this is? Absolutely. Wait, I want to bring something up right off the back. Yes. I was at Jake Shane's house. Oh, is it the bag? It was not the bag. I saw the
Starting point is 00:05:57 the books that you gifted him. Yes. And I squealed and I go, of course Gracie fucking reads, Eve Babit. Well, all day long. And you know what? Kaya and I speak Kaya had a library science conversation about Eve Babits and Joe Didion. And it was one of my, like, it was one of those moments where you're just relieved when people read. And I was, and I was relieved to gift Jake books.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Yes. I, I, what's the relief? What is that kind of? The subtle drag. No, no, no, no. he will he's the he's the he was the first to say it he was like do you read I was like I do do you and he was like crazy yeah bit and then he was like I will read I told him I was like I'm going to send you like the just the beginning of your library oh that's a beautiful and I wrote him
Starting point is 00:06:42 and then he was like I will read I was like the title yeah yeah yeah yeah I will read the the back of the book cover the blurbs I said no you should actually read these like these are incredible first, like, starter pack books. I'm glad you approved of them. Oh, yes. And I was like, Jake, you would actually fucking love Eve Babitz because she's talking about... She's just talking about...
Starting point is 00:07:03 She's just talking about the culture. She's talking about the culture and the tone. Eve Babitz, she's just talking about the culture. It's rule of culture number two. Eve Babitz, she's just talking about the culture. And you're danced in it. And you danced in. This feels really good.
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's so nice in this room. Thank you. With all of you. Well, our best friend Jared is here, and he never comes and sits in, but he is one of your great, great fans. I've heard about you, Jared. We were there at your concert
Starting point is 00:07:28 where the girls were ringing, ringing around there, Rosie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you see this from the stage? Yeah, and actually, we were just talking about this, like, 10 minutes ago about the concept, like, someone was like, is there a moche?
Starting point is 00:07:43 I was like, well, there is. I wouldn't, I don't know if I would use that word. I would. It's a sash. It's a soft mosh. A sash, yeah, yeah. But it is you make a good point, like, what's happening to that floor space? Nothing.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Because they stay wide. Yes. Which I also am like, everybody take their space. Absolutely. And it is theirs to, it is theirs to, they, they chose to be on the floor. Absolutely. Their floor. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:09 No say. Our phones out? Our phones are out. Oh, phones are out. My phone was out. I know. I'm pro put him down. I'm, you're a pro put him down.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I used to be. But, well, I actually, I live on, I think I'm pro soak up the experience. Of course. You went out of your way to be here. It's like you paid money to be here. If you want to record every single second of it, I advocate for that to you. I'm not anti-phone.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm pro-presence. Yeah. So there's this book that's coming out called The Story of Your Life. I have not read it, but I'm seeing like people who are getting galley's like talk about how this author, like, writes about how social media is whatever, blah, blah, blah, defining all over the lives. But specifically when it comes to pulling out your phone at a concert, this is why we do it. You ready?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Yeah. It's because you're so overwhelmed with emotion. And in the modern condition is such that you don't know how to process and sit with the emotion, other than to take out your phone and record something because I don't watch that stuff back. You never do. And also the experience of other people watching it is never going to be as good. I think it's a thing of like you are anticipating a moment so much. You think the number one thing to do is capture it when what you really should do.
Starting point is 00:09:18 What happens to me is I know this to be true. So I'll have my phone out and I'll just capture like a boring part of any song so that I see the part that's worth capturing or whatever. Pulling my phone out is the curse for what I'm like. My goal is immediately gone. Like there's no, there's no success rate, the absolutely low success rate. Yeah. Because at a concert you can't play the song again. Correct.
Starting point is 00:09:40 And that's rule of culture number three. At a concert, you can't play the song again. Unless you're Audrey Hobert and you do sue me twice. Does she do that? And you know what she does? which actually, maybe this isn't my information. Well, I think I went to the show. I can speak on it.
Starting point is 00:09:55 We all saw it. It's the best show. Have you guys seen her live yet? We did a show in L.A. for Katie Crutchfield and Darcy Cardin and Allison. Oh, yes. Oh, and she's, I saw you guys singing together. We sang together. That was, again, it's one of those things.
Starting point is 00:10:08 It's like, I can't rank why, like, in order, what's the best thing about Audrey's, like, rise. Selfishly, I think it's that I get to see. see more of my friend, like on the internet, doing things. Oh, that's cool. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Because when we're not in the same place, like, I got to just open Instagram and you two are singing together on stage.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I'm like, that is what I would like, in my fantasy, I'd be, like, in my simulation, I'd be like, Bowen and Audrey are now on stage together. You know what I mean? I feel like it is, this is, we are living in your simulation. Kind of. Well, today we are, because I get to watch the two of you do your job. Honey. You.
Starting point is 00:10:45 It's awesome. And you get to watch me drink piss. Yes. Do you know what's cool? What probably rocks most about the Audrey situation and I think... The Audrey situation title of that? The Audrey situation title of that. Well, I was going to say stay wide, but I didn't want to be rude to everyone in the room.
Starting point is 00:11:02 It's a crass title, crass idea for our title. Stay wide. Stay wide. Anyway, moving on. I feel like it's that thing of when you just, you think that someone around you was really special. And then the world starts to confirm it. And you're like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like these things that...
Starting point is 00:11:18 that I got to experience everyone's getting that same feeling. And that's, that's fun. It's just, it's like the, it's, I grew up with her voice in my head all the time every day for 16 years. Oh. And I'm just, I just, now others get to have that. So I'm just like, we're all better off. Damn, that's so beautiful. You're a little jealous.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I'm, guys. I have a fuck on a Robert T-shirt. It's the best thing. Also, also, I mean, and I'm like, I never want to move on from this topic. But to see, I'm just so excited because she's, she's doing festivals this summer. I'm like, can you imagine being at Lala? And then like, can you imagine like being at Lala? And if you, for some reason don't know who she is yet. And then you hear like, and you're like, I'm going to chase that sound.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And then. And also the audience that's there is going to be giving it. It's going to be a chapel moment. Well, I was going to say, I think so. I think so because when Sumi first came out and the video came out I was like I feel like Matt Matt was on chapel from the jump
Starting point is 00:12:23 I remember I remember I wanted to say this on the pod but I felt too shy because I feel like I'm not as prescient as you but I was like I think this Audrey Hobart girl is like no you were always right about that also but you've always in my experience you've always been supporting like
Starting point is 00:12:39 I support but I support for sure for sure but I'm also like I'm not I'm not going to to be as like, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna. You're not being declarative. He didn't want to stick his neck out because what if something horrible was to happen. Like a flop. When a gay guy is wrong publicly.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Like a flop single. No, no way. No chance with that girl. No chance. How long years, you know, with 16 years? Has the process been the same when you guys have been writing together where it's like wine nights or is it, it's changed over time? Well, it's like we just lived together.
Starting point is 00:13:10 Well, well, well, well. Well, well. Well, well. We just were, we were roommates. Yes. And then we just started writing songs together, which is like such a weird, all of a sudden one day. But I imagine with the two of you, what you make together, it was probably not like a... Born out of friendship instead of like, we have to create.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Yeah, exactly. There's no like sit down conversation. It's just like there's a guitar and both of us are there. And we're already like, we just started laughing while we were strumming was the vibe. And then it made it, it made it, that was like the bar for us of what we chose to keep in. Like lyrics that either felt so correct or made us laugh the hardest. You said that about that so true too. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:13:52 That you're cracking up by the end of it. Yes. And we have a song on this album as well that we wrote, I think, the same week that we did that so true, which like also made us giggle in that sense. You know what I mean? Which is a song on this album. Mini bar. Yeah, no, mini bar is fab. It's like zippy.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah. y'all are jippy well she's just it's like there's that there's that um i feel like the shorthand of your best friend and and it's just so yeah yes well you don't realize she i wish she was here so pat her and she is on me no it's that thing where it's like you don't think it's going to translate and then it very much does it's why i always wish that things are more specific and less broad because i mean but we should say specifically You guys are wearing the same goddamn shoe today. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You have an amazing point. I don't know. Well, my arch is non-existent. I think these might- What do you mean non-existent? Like you're just flat? You're currently an arch. I'm flat.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I'm flat. Really? You, oh, wait. Can we just get, or we're just going to step on? I don't think so, honey. Are we going to step on it right now? I feel like,
Starting point is 00:14:58 it sounds like you have some foot insecurity. Oh. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Oh, because of what I said, because we can't, oh, because my ankles. Because ankles? What's about ankles?
Starting point is 00:15:09 Well, let's talk about my ankles. I just sometimes... But yeah, let's make it personal. It's my ankles. Actually, I would love to talk about feet. I have a couple... I have a few questions. Over New Year's, we were all...
Starting point is 00:15:23 So, we were all there for New Year's. Over New Year's, we were all. Talking about Wiki feet. That's a thing. And I had never explored that platform. Yes. And many of our friends have explored. I heard it, which I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Totally. Like, I, anyway, news to me. Okay. There is, there's, there's ratings. Yes. And there are comments. Okay. So, I have, in my mind, wide feet.
Starting point is 00:15:53 I've just noticed this. Okay, everyone look. Literally no. No. No, no, this part. Bone to bone. Well, honey, everyone's foot there. I know it's the widest part of the foot in theory.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Right, right. But I have always felt this. And so I'm for the first time in my life over New Year's this past year on WikiFeet with everyone and I come across a comment. Oh no. About my own. This man wasn't writing from a place of like any fetish or like there was no sexual angle.
Starting point is 00:16:20 It was as if he was a doctor going like I fear she might have like a bunion in her future. You don't have a bunion girl. No, no. Oh, in your future. In my future. We don't know. Some sort of foot psychic and you wish she had more of a sexual fetishy sort of angle to No, no, I definitely, I wasn't like, damn it.
Starting point is 00:16:39 But I was all, no, but I was then curious. And so, and so having already noticed, when I put on heels that are like meant for, like, a lady, sometimes my foot feels too wide to go in that section. So anyway, basically now I'm like, is he right? And then, like, and then I wonder, like, is there something preventative that I could be doing? I feel like I'm onto something. Okay. My flight of security.
Starting point is 00:17:02 You are, you are spiraling with this man's voice in your head. About everything feet About everything feet And can I just say The title of up Thank you so much You just locked it in The title of up is everything feet
Starting point is 00:17:15 That guy's gonna love it Of course I will say I feel like I have some of the most beautiful feet In the history of man Oh my god to have no confidence I'm not gonna ask you to show them
Starting point is 00:17:26 But I can I will find you on Wiki feet We'll find you later Have you looked up your score? Of course I've looked on it I'm one of those freaks One of our friends she was so proud about being the highest ranking foot in the group that like you're too proud
Starting point is 00:17:45 you said you're too proud I was like but I would also probably react that way well no if there weren't doctors in my if there were doctors in my forum yeah sure but I think the way I feel about my feet is I need I need to apply this I need to it needs to be writ large in terms of my my whole life where I'm like oh it doesn't matter what other people think because my rating on Wikipede is in the gutter. What? And I'm like, I don't care. This is actually dead wrong. When people review your album, they're like,
Starting point is 00:18:12 it fucking sucks, but it's like, I had a fun making it. Exactly. It's not even that you have fun making. It's that you know it's good. Yeah, you know it's a part of your soul. Well, I don't know. I feel like my feet are, they're treating if Wikifete is pitchfork, they're treating my feet like
Starting point is 00:18:28 it's Fiona Apple. Because like, I have a very high rating and I have to tell you, I would not describe my feet as Fiona Applecoded. I think my feet are awful. You're perfect 10. No, everyone who sees my feet are just like put those away. What do you mean? Wait, hold on. My friend Dave calls them the stakes. Jared, what do you think? You hate them? They're bad. They're not good. Why? Describe. I'm going to be very vulnerable. Okay. Well, finally, I've been like talking about my, like, you're like, burgeoning bunnies and my fucking ankles. A few years ago, I made the fatal, the fatal mistake of
Starting point is 00:19:02 Yes, showering at the Hollywood Equinox with no shoes on. Oh, this is actually a part of my later. Really? Anyway, please. As a result, I got athletes' foot and it really wasn't good there for a little while and to the point where like it had to be like, I had to start a relationship with Loderman. He can't believe I'm this candid on the pod. Was it visually a thing?
Starting point is 00:19:25 It's just. Let's just say I was surprised to see my wiki feet rating so high. Jesus. I know. How long does that last? It lasts as long as you let it Is it a topical situation? It is, it is.
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's very treatable, very curable. It's on this foot? It's on. I was like, where is it? No, no, no, no. It was on both feet, you guys. Oh, I see. That's how fungus works.
Starting point is 00:19:46 But here's the thing about feet, though. I love topical creams. I love topical creams for sure. I love topical creams. But do they work? I don't know. It's always like results in better over time. Results in time.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Results in time. You will always. see results in time. It's actually real culture number nine. You will see results in time. Hey, did you just have a breakup? Honey, time. Honey, you're going to love time. Athletes foot time.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Time, baby. Oh, baby, time. Time. The prescription is time. I think if someone were to, if you were to if Jared were to describe why Matt's feet are bad, qualitatively you would fail to capture
Starting point is 00:20:30 why they're bad. I know. Why they're bad. I think this should be the topic of the whole opposite. Fee. Fee. Fee. Everything. I mean, it's cold. I know because I listen.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Well, you know, the only other time we did that was when Iowa Debrity was on a few years ago. We talked only about Omarosa. Okay. Incredible. It was when she came out and said, everyone will bow down to the most powerful man in the universe. And we always start the episode with a ding-dong except that episode. We started with that voiceover. And the three of us just screamed about Omarosa for the whole app.
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Starting point is 00:26:38 We check in kind of like I check in with you more than many that I've known intimately for years. Well it's because I feel and I'm just going to say this I do feel connected to you over it's very like this is not our first life together. I really I was like they were like okay well Gracie's ready to
Starting point is 00:26:54 come in and I was like I'm not meeting her on the cameras. I'm walking in there because I saw you guys do a TikTok together at S&L. I immediately dropped to my knees. I'm like sorry to everyone else in the room. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Well, I found out that you even liked our show when... Oh, I love you. Anyway. I found that you liked our show when you saw Hannah Einbinder on it. And she cried. Delicious.
Starting point is 00:27:16 At the top. Yeah. I wish I were capable of accessing tears like that. I mean, I could go there. I could go there. What about in your upcoming? My bunion, potentially.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Will you have to cry in your upcoming film debut? Oh, shit. Oh shit. We asked. I'm going to just drink my... Imagine. You can say nothing. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:27:43 What can I say? Well, have you seen Helena's previous work? We're fans of Helena's work. She would be incredible on this podcast. Because she is just the most... Have you met her? her? No, but I've heard that she is a very vivid character.
Starting point is 00:28:00 A hundred percent. Yeah. She's really, she's really an amazing person and I, just, whenever she speaks about anything, I'm like, give her the mic. I've been waiting for you to get on camera in an acting way. I do feel you are a superstar. Well, that's generous. And you got it. Well, I will take that from you because
Starting point is 00:28:17 it's Helena, babe. It's Helena, it's Helena. It's She is, she is, when I read the script that she wrote, I was like, what the luck. And she sent it to me just being like, would you ever want to read it? And I was like not thinking she was asking me to read it in the sense of like, do you want audition for it? But I just loved her. We got breakfast three years ago once because a friend connected us.
Starting point is 00:28:40 And it was similarly to, I was like, I've known you. I've known you before. And then the next time we communicated was when she sent me the script. How are you with milk? There's a lot of milk on her sets. Actually. And dogs. And dogs.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Actually, there is milk. There's milk in the film. Guys. So many glasses of tall, tall milk. Every Helena movie, I just want milk everywhere now. As an Easter egg. No more glasses of milk as far as I'm concerned. Piss, piss.
Starting point is 00:29:12 Maybe the set designer will like, yeah, just piss. By the way, there might be piss. Here's a tip on crying. I don't think this is. worked on me. Yes, tell. Imagine there's a column within you. A column?
Starting point is 00:29:26 A column. Whatever ionic, Corinthian, I don't even know what the other columns are. Do you know the difference between ionic and Corinthian columns? I'm going to, if you're going to give more context, I might be able to use context clues. Just a column. I believe Corinthian have the lines straight down on it.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Oh, of course. I'm so sorry. Yes, of course. But what was the first one you said? Ionic. Ionic. What is an ionic column? Ionic just has like the scroll at the top.
Starting point is 00:29:51 still has lines, but then Corinthian has like these embellishments, like these natural embellishment. Okay, heard. Just imagine a column within you. Uh-huh. Collapsing. That gets you. Okay, ready?
Starting point is 00:30:02 Everyone. No, I actually can't. Well, I'm already in the dog dying. Wait, that's just like, I went right to my reliable place. I saw, I've been sort of starting to get like on my reels. Reels is my, that's all, yeah. Yeah, same.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And it's great. It's so good. Way. And guilt-free. Yeah, I bet. I've been starting to get, like,
Starting point is 00:30:29 I will dwell, like, just long enough on, on clips of certain, I will dwell long enough. You will dwell long enough. And then the algorithm thinks,
Starting point is 00:30:39 well, she's dwelling. Well, our girl is dwelling on this one, so keep feeding. So it's, yes, of course,
Starting point is 00:30:45 the way the algorithm famously works, and then it'll give me, like, these beautiful, like, women talking about how they make themselves cry and like I will like I will like just me in my room I've been doing that at the end of these long days I'm like go there and yeah and do you
Starting point is 00:31:02 sometimes oh in the mirror you're always the best actress yeah no literally I met by the end of this we will oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god oh my god and you bit your lip too looking at me your lip not for nothing imagine the most devastating scene I'm like it's a little affected that's deductive I feel affected Um, wait, Mary Fug, Kill. Reel, uh, Reel's shorts, TikTok. Uh, Reels YouTube shorts. I don't, well, uh, I have it, I have it.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Okay, kill, uh, shorts. Okay. Wait, sorry at also. No, no, no, no, YouTube. I'd fuck shorts and I do. You do? I've never been, I've been known to. I have, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, it's never, yeah, never watch a short. Well, shorts. Kill TikTok.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Kill TikTok. Definitely. And also, by the way, well, you all go and then I'll... Kill TikTok. I'm marrying shorts because it's usually like recipes and wholesome stuff. I've never been on shorts. Are you on your phone? Shorts were happened to you. Like everything else gets, because this is how the algorithm works too.
Starting point is 00:32:02 It's just, here's a short. Wait, but no, but I've never, I've never been fed a short. Do you go on YouTube for fun like us? Never been fed a short. I've never been fed a short. Seriously, where... You go on YouTube and you kind of just... On your phone.
Starting point is 00:32:18 Yeah, you just kind of do the thing. I can't explain either how shorts happen. No, if you go on YouTube for anything, if you click out of a video, there's going to be a whole above the fold, they say, in web design. They have like a row of shorts that are just like little clipped videos of like... You're watching shorts and you don't even know it. You don't even know you're watching shorts.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Are they horizontal? No, vertical. No, they're versed. So I'm not. Can I tell you what I learned about yesterday? Vertical integration? Yes, but that's a different vertical. Oh, right?
Starting point is 00:32:48 It's like you're integrating your verticals. I'm thinking about columns. I cry because of this topic. Yeah. Okay, so we have to ask you the central question of our podcast. And I just know you came with an answer. I had, yeah. Gracie Abrams, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you, ultimately?
Starting point is 00:33:09 Ultimately, it was pure heroin. Oh, my God. Ultimately it was. Of course. My favorite of the offerings. It was. And then I was like was it Magita Perez? And then like truly.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Megita. Are you kidding me? No, I was like, was it was it Magita Perez? Because also like forget the Marnie of it all. I'm screaming. Like that and then I was going to say Megita Perez. And then I was also thinking like Beach House episode. The last two shots where they've had the blow up.
Starting point is 00:33:38 Yes, yes. But the nonverbal Marnie comes into the kitchen and they're all cleaning and they're not speaking. And then they're still not speaking. And it's they're doing the. And I was like, that is. I grew up, me, Audrey, Lila, and Clem are our four that like when I watched girls, when it came out and I was like too young and it like helped inspire all of the kind of, you know, it's like what like Adam Driver as a whole, you're sort of like, you wonder as an adult why certain things are like, yeah. You're kind of like, why. I'm like, oh, because I was 12.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Yeah, yeah. Anyway. A bit young watching those dynamics. Yeah. Yeah. But whatever. But whatever. And anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And then, so anyway, so I was thinking those. Megita, I just. What about Magita? That interaction. That interaction, I felt like you just see her. You also, she's like, she backs herself. She backs her, she immediately. And that smile on her face when she walks away with $600 is the biggest smile you see on
Starting point is 00:34:38 Marnie's face except for when Desi's proposing to her. When Desi's proposing her. Oh, my. And when also, yeah, anyway, we can go on. But anyway, it's pure heroin. It's pure heroin. But hold on, before we go back to pure heroin. Ex-Megita Perez.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Yeah, no, that is it. I've never been more shook on this podcast. He only ever wants to talk about Magita. No, I... Really? Yeah. I think about Megita Perez like once a week. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Allison, I think about... I was going to be dead. I was like, I had this like impulse to not change my handle on Instagram, but just change my name on... To Megita Perez. That would be really strong. Just do it for 48 hours 24.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Yeah, it's like part of album promo. It's like album launch, roll out. Everyone freaks out. Like Pop Crave is like, there is probably a track called Megita Perez. Yeah. Is Magita on the album? You have to wear the dress.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Feathing Megita. The Red Halter. The red halter. Oh my God, when she goes... The slit up the front. But the way she says Megita Perez. Megita. Megita.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Megita Perez. Megita Perez. Megita. Megita. Period. Megita Perez. There's a little roll on the arm. Megita Perez.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Petes. What would she say? I have a fine if I go up if I go about the 10th floor. 200 extra if I'm going above the 10th floor. And then she tucks her behind her ear. She goes, I have a fear of heights. A fear of heights. Yeah, she's an icon.
Starting point is 00:36:02 That's like her becoming. I love 200 extra if I go above the 10th floor. Like she has some like fear that they can pay for. It's incredible. Wait, but there's two. There's two. She gets, she gets. There's another fee.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Yeah, what's the other fee? Above the 10th floor. Oh, dress rental. No, dress rental. Oh, my God, oh my God. Dress rental. 100. Unless you want me to come in my jeans.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yes, that's what she says. Wait, can I point out you're sort of in Magita Red? Megita Red. You sort of came dressed today in Megita Reddha. Red dance. Red dance. Way. Pantone color of the year.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Megita Redd. Magita Red. Anyway, but it was pure heroin. Okay, let's talk about pure heroin. I also had formative experience with it. It's when I started. With Pure Heroin. Like, king weed in college.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Okay, so, okay. Yeah, so, talk about it. Well, I felt like, there's lots to say. The, the, I feel like there are these moments, you know, like, Bjork and Kate Bush and, like, Rosalia, like, subverting pop and just redefining it. And I felt, you know, Lord, who has since become such a dear friend. And so all of these memories are so hysterical. Oh, yeah. and even more important than they were then
Starting point is 00:37:17 because I get to love her so much for the quality of human being that she is. She was like a couple years older than me and I was 14 when pure heroin came out and that week that it came out, she was having a show at the Fonda in L.A. So cool to see her there back then. And I went and it was the first show I've ever seen
Starting point is 00:37:37 where like the concept of potentially performing was like that was the first time I was ever not, like absolutely fucking never because that's what it was before that no that's what it was like forever yeah but seeing her know herself and also just be up there and command the crowd and not have like this flashy it was just her she was she had her like long curly black hair and she was wearing this huge like it felt like a cape like this long black dress and it was just her and it just blew my mind and rocked my world. And I feel like it's always stuck with me in that same way.
Starting point is 00:38:17 Yes, of course, because we were in college when Royals came out. I remember this. I was living in Crown Heights. I was like, I don't know what my life is. I got to figure this out. I pulled out of med school applications. I was like, I got to really rethink things. But something about pure heroin, like soundtracked.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Like, I think it's timestamp. But I think it timestamps everyone's life. Yes. You know, and within a certain, like, age bracket or whatever in terms of, like, whatever you were going through, it's pure heroin. It's all, it's like. Agre. And I loved how dark it was. Yep.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Yep. Yeah. And I think when you're, like, a Tumblr, middle schooler. And it just was, it was exactly perfect. It was exactly perfect. I'll never forget, like, really listening to 400 Lux. And I was like, how old is she? It really didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:39:06 And all those sounds were kind of new. She's like 800. Yeah. it's pretty wild He's like an owl inside Yes Her beautiful body There was just there was just something that was so like
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah I'll just That was one I in the West Village This was it for me West Village in my tiny apartment Smoking weed for the first time And walking around the West Village Like we're getting good at this
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yes exactly exactly And like I was just like The girl was 14 years old than I'm vibing out. Yeah, totally. But also, I felt like, because she, she, I think she's like two years older than me. And I was like, I feel like there was,
Starting point is 00:39:50 that was just the time where I was like really yearning to like break free. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? And that album makes you want to like leave. Have experiences. Just makes you want to leave. Yeah, go somewhere else. And I didn't have my license yet and all this. So it would be like long walks.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah, exactly. Our exit music. Ooh. That's good for later. You guys have so many great segments on this show. Can I tell you? That's shocking to hear because they literally sat us down the first day we ever had the podcast.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I was like, oh, before we record, you guys should probably have segments. And we were like, oh. Oh, wow. I don't think so, honey. Yeah. Did you come up with it on the spot? On the spot, we were like.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It was something we used to say to each other. Are you still working with those people? Which person? No. Oh. So don't you feel kind of? But the beautiful thing about the podcast is As much as people say otherwise, it really hasn't changed.
Starting point is 00:40:40 Like, formally, it's been the same. He starts to impress. What year is this of last college? You know, the beautiful thing about the podcast a year? This is really, right. DNA is really the same. And on Peacock. Are we on a radio show?
Starting point is 00:40:51 We're on a radio show. But how long has it been now that you've been? 10 years. What the hell? Yeah. When did you first hear that we were a podcast? I mean, it's like always been in my heart. Really?
Starting point is 00:41:02 It's one of those things, though, truly where I actually, you know when you can't remember a time before or something? Totally. That's sort of like... It's true. So it was... First was Lord, then a few years later
Starting point is 00:41:12 we decided to do the podcast. It's true. I think if there's no pure heroin, there's no lost culture. Yes. Wow. Because I never start smoking weed then. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:20 And that is the link. That is the link between everything. Truly. Wait, what's your favorite song on the album? Yeah, come on. I think ribs. Yeah. Kind of a classic.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I think it just like, that's the one I would choose. Distill. Yes. Yes. Yes. And I also think it's like I loved her last album so much. And also again, I feel like all of her albums
Starting point is 00:41:47 they came at the exact correct time. And this one last year came out the first day of Glastonbury. Or no, yeah, the Friday of Glastonbury. Yeah. And we were in the mud. We were, I wish it was muddy. We didn't.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It wasn't a muddy? People like, people were so stoked. It was that. That was my first one and we were playing Friday night at like 7.30. It was like the best weekend of my life. But her album came out that morning and she had a surprise show and I wasn't on festival grounds yet. But I sat and I got ready to go listening to her album. And it was just, it's the exact same feeling.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It feels like you're like being like plugged into your life. Oh, that's a great way to put it. I just love her. What's the, have you guys? She's not been on the show. She actually was supposed to come in and then we had to reschedule or it just didn't end up happening for that cycle, but she's been floating around the pod for a while. She's just the coolest.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah. She's so cool. Yeah. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pastos survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers?
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Starting point is 00:46:42 you speak of a lot of people whom you love in terms of like a past life maybe. Not that you're saying about this about Lord, but it's like she's 800 years old
Starting point is 00:46:53 there's an owl inside her. Yeah, yeah. Like there's something spiritual. Do you see the animals in everyone? Do you see that? Yes. And who are we? That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:47:03 See the animals in us. You are reminding me of a bumblebee. Oh! I've never heard that. You are. I've heard seal and I've heard every
Starting point is 00:47:14 bad dinosaur. What the hell? I think I have a lot of friends that want to knock me down. Yeah. Sea Lion for that and I see the sea lion content is coming up
Starting point is 00:47:24 on your reels now too. It is a lot of times I'll be on reels now and I'll just flick, flick, flick and then I'll see or, or, or, or I'm like, they know it's me. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:32 I hate when it's the videos of them in an institution. I know. Okay, so then I posted this one great video. Sometimes it's a rehabilitation center and I understand. And I think that's what it was because someone did get in my DMs. And I did clock that everything else before they had said was also nasty. But they were like, why are you posting this captivated animal?
Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm like, okay, I really just loved his energy. Yeah, it's everyone so eager. Everyone's so punk on the internet. No, we have to contact. Tip touch. Touch. God, my converse really ruins the vibe I shouldn't have worn in socks today
Starting point is 00:48:10 No, no, no, no, you should have, I should have to. But now I don't want to wear, I want to show my ankles because you're going to make fun of them. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you should know, no, no, no, no, no, they're going to smell. Oh, no, wait, now I'm self-conscious. Wait, I'm loving the side, right? Oh, they're freaking out. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Oh, and they're perfect feet. Well, not, not now, after a petty. Sorry, that was tech. Hold on, no, no, I'll do, I'll do this, no, no, I'll do this, no, no, hold on. Matt leans over, rips my shoes off, both of them. Perfect feet. Perfect feet. I'm in fact going to get on WikiFeat make a profile.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And then rate me? Right. 11 out of 10. I think it's better with the sock. It's better with the sock. And no one look at me now. If you went home and there was like a bot farm, that would be so funny. If you just had a million phones in a room.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, it's me saying block crazy April. Trust me. Trust me. It's me. Running the bot farm. That would be good. And you're a hummingbird to me. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:49:10 A bee and a hummingbird? Aren't we rivals? We're rivals. In the fields? What? Are you? I just feel like a bee and a hummingbird. They do a lot of the same stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:17 We're both going for the flower. But maybe there's friends. Pecking order, though, is it? I think, well, I guess it would depend what kind of bee. Because there's, of course, the queen bee, who's the top head honcho. Would you like that? The worker bees. Okay, you seem connected to the worker bee.
Starting point is 00:49:33 No, I just kind of, I want some worker bees. Oh, you lie. I see. What's Gracie? What's Gracie? I don't, no pressure. Wow. I have one.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Gazelle. I was going to say gazelle. Really? Well, because you're a gazelle. It's not that weird that we both said it. Why? What does that equate? Great, earthy.
Starting point is 00:49:52 One that is inspiring to the other grassland animals to leap higher, faster, stronger. Yes, earthy, but can ascend. Thank you. That's very nice. One who the lions are trying to get. But they're often not quick enough because they're thinking one step ahead of these lions. Famously, gazelle is absolutely never get attacked by lions. It just doesn't happen because they're so much smarter and quicker.
Starting point is 00:50:18 It's like every doc is like them getting their necks like whipped out. Well, the lion to the bots. I'm like trust. The lions of the bots. We cannot give them that much power. Famous a god. No. Bots cannot be.
Starting point is 00:50:29 No. No. They're hyenas. They're vultures. They're vultures. And we're not dead. Yet. And we're not dead yet.
Starting point is 00:50:38 No. Fly somewhere else, you freaks. Yeah, whatever. The thing about Taylor, when she goes, I have a very strong opinion that when you are young, you just feel things more intensely. I'm like, that is tea. Do you feel like you feel things less as you age? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Yeah. Totally. Really? Yeah. Because there's fewer new feelings or why? Or because is it perspective and like right sizing? I think it's one third my Lexapro dosage. I think it's one third.
Starting point is 00:51:06 third what you said. Yeah. And I think it's one third. Memory loss. Yeah. That's the dream recipe. Honestly, it's just with the doctor order. I didn't even think of memory loss because I forgot it.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I literally have that. No, you don't. You guys. Are you a stoner? Of course. Okay. So maybe. And I've actually like, I'm right now in a, in a period of like compared to before times.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Yes. Basically no compared to before times. because there's a lyric on the album where you're like the weed from when we were 17 is like catching up to us I'm not butchering it no no that's basically it so like what are you getting at the the lyric that comes before that
Starting point is 00:51:47 is my brain half melted down so for sure well don't buy weed on the street in New York City well I'm chronic New York weed is just a nightmare it's evil I also have a feeling that unless you're like with the exact right person in the exact right room weed in New York period regardless of where you got it can also be
Starting point is 00:52:05 like insidious. It's crazy. And I think it's because I've been getting overstimulated recently in a new way that I feel. And then I was like, that's embarrassing. And that's my fault. That's no one's fault. That's like I should just know myself now. Overstimulated?
Starting point is 00:52:18 Oh, wait. Don't. Don't be bashful. Don't you dare do that film acting towards us. Oh my gosh. She's got a future. Here's the thing. I don't know a bigger stoner than that person over there, Jared Frieder.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And he smokes my weed and he has to lay down. and he says you're crazy. Because it's so heavy. I feel sad. I go in there and I'm like, I'm like, I guess I'm just looking for some pre-rolls. And they're like, well, what do you want? And I'm like, what do you have that's rolled in Keith? Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:52:48 And they're like, oh, you're going to love this stuff, man. I don't know why I'm talking like a monster truck driver, but that's the energy. What scary place do you go? Ventura Boulevard. No, there is one there. And I live next door to it. Are you guys stoner's at the moment? Yeah, I know, I know.
Starting point is 00:53:03 But what is that? Is that because they're, like, daily, daily, daily a clock? No, I was going to yesterday last night and I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to not. Yeah. And it was totally fine. I got a raw dog it more. Yes, I think, I think what I've been learning recently is that there's, it's, for some reason right now, the, the, it feels like a 50-50 chance of it, like, landing or really, like, sending me. Well, when you say you get over-stimulation,
Starting point is 00:53:33 is that when you're not stoned or when you're when you're when you're sober that you're like oh I need it sobra I feel like um this particular like month there's just lots to be engaging with it's it's just like and it doesn't even not in a I just it feels like I want to be ready yeah yeah and I think that um I'm impaired when I'm impaired right now 100% I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess for me sometimes. I'm high when I'm high. I'm kind of like, I think when I'm high, I'm actually high. And I, so it just is a little bit iffy these days. But, but, but then I have this fantasy, like, of, you know, like an evening that starts at 4 p.m. and then the next day isn't, no obligations. Yeah. That would be, you know what I mean? That would be wonderful. Also, living not here anymore.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Right. Yeah. You know, I don't smoke weed at all in, London. So because they don't allow it. Yeah. And I think, like, if we think New York wheat is scary, like, I don't know. I don't know what's even going on in London. I just haven't engaged. And, of course, pub culture, they're like, you're like, it's bright outside, have a
Starting point is 00:54:48 drink. And then they're like, it's dark outside, have a drink. You're like, whoa. I'm so jealous of London because they're getting a Universal Studios. What? Oh, yeah. Congrats. You love that stuff.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah. Love. Let's go right now. Let's go. Let's go. Let's fly down. Play Pure Heroin. Ball.
Starting point is 00:55:02 album's going to do it. Amazing. We're leaving straight to Universal. Did, what was your last, because they also seemingly love you. We love to sort of go, maybe even more than you love them. London? No, the Universal show goes. London likes us too.
Starting point is 00:55:20 London likes us too. No, and we love London. I'm doing my Christmas show in London this year. Oh my God. When? Eilington Hall. Is LinkedIn Hall? Islington Hall? I played, we played there. And I got tattoos.
Starting point is 00:55:32 the day we played lots of shows. I got tattoos the day we played that in venue. I have such a long list for you. Oh my god, yay! And also you have to come over. I know. Will you be around in November? Actually, wait. November 15th? No. Oh, come on. Please.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Cancel the flight. The team is like you're not around, Mama. Oh, wait, November. Yeah. What is it? We're in rehearsals. Oh, yeah. Well, I think this is coming out after we've announced the tour so we can just say that's what we're whispering about. in rehearsals for tour maybe I'll quit the tour by the way we just come to your show we we spoke earlier about the crowd
Starting point is 00:56:09 happenings I also want to say your performance was fucking great that was so generous of you to be there and and I vaguely recall can we say what happened yeah I was going to say vaguely recall there was no ticket for you I get there I'm excited to see Gracie I go hi I think I'm on the list of Matt and also of course I wasn't on my fucking phone till after the show so then of course you were crazy saying I'm like check my phone and Matt's like hey I'm outside and I'm like I'm gonna kill it no no so I ended up buying a ticket
Starting point is 00:56:38 and me Jared and our friend were there and it ended up being exactly what needed to happen I'm so sorry no I needed her already had his ticket thank you I was gonna be like I was gonna be at that seat kind of by myself and then they were like oh okay well we just bought tickets so I was like I'm buying a ticket went in the pit
Starting point is 00:56:54 and I needed to be there so that you could see the so I can interact with all my friends L.A. shows are very weird. How come? Well, I think a couple things. I think every tour in the history of the world comes through L.A.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Yes. So I think there's like a kind of closet. They're just not that excited about live shows. I always start my tour there because I'm like I don't want to come here later and then be like, what happened? Am I worse than I just was?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Totally. I think also because I grew up there, I always have a fondness which helps make up for the like anticipation of it being less like vibrant sometimes in the crowd. But I also my my curiosity for those who attend shows in LA
Starting point is 00:57:43 is like why not lean in because you're only enriching the experience if everyone's kind of like going nuts. Yeah of course. For anyone else who's not me. Not me. I'm just like do you know like the like because touring is like the least cynical, like most whole, like going to a show, seeing anything live.
Starting point is 00:58:06 It's like you're spending money, spending energy, you're getting dressed up, you're making a plan with friends probably, or you're even braver going alone. Yeah. And it's like you're singing with strangers. It's my favorite experience. And I will say, I've seen incredible shows in L.A. mostly they happen at the Greek. I love the Greek. Which is the best.
Starting point is 00:58:23 I love the Greek. We had like a Greek era, Jared and I. Have you been to the Greek, though, like in seeing a show at the Greek? Never. Oh, really? I don't think I've ever, I was, my first L.A. concert maybe was going to be, oh no, was Lily Allen. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Oh, yeah, we saw Lily. That was in L.A. That was in L.A. At the Orphium. At the Orphium. We did the cultural awards last year. Oh, my God. I was going to go with Jared to Tate McCray one day.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Oh. That would have been fun. At MSG? No, at the Greek. Oh, at the forum. Oh, at the forum. Oh, at the forum. The forum.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Anyway, whatever. We saw Maggie Rogers at the Greek. We saw Casey Mosker's at the Greek. That's perfect. I've seen twice. Yeah. Oh my God. Imogen.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Image and heap. Did she glove? It was really cool. That might have been the first concert we saw together, Image and Heap. Honestly, like, so not to shit on LA shows because there are so many special moments that have. No, also, it's like I really, I have such a fondness. And it is, it's crazy to get to play shows there, period, because there are venues that I, like, grew up going to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:22 So I know them well. You haven't done Coachella, have you? No. I want that I want that but um she's saying nothing but touching feet but touching feet interesting
Starting point is 00:59:35 I was wanting to ask that's our Easter egg throughout the whole episode every time like just see if they pick up on it so the readers are noting that they touched feet at several different points during the episode
Starting point is 00:59:47 I feel like what because we went there and I feel like there's an attitude amongst artists that like weekend one of Coachella is bad and weekend two of Coachella is good. Is that a thing you can confirm that artists talk about? I have heard that in the discourse
Starting point is 01:00:02 just probably exactly as much as you have. But I wonder if it's... About ripping the band, breaking the seal? Yeah, maybe. Or like, I'm like, are there more like... I was just going to ask, are there more activations weekend one? There's...
Starting point is 01:00:16 They are like, I roll. They are a plenty. Yeah. They are plenty. I've been to Coachella in a long time. I went in high school, and it was so fun. And then this past summer, Glastonbury was our first of the festival run.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And it has ruined everything for me. I bet. Have you done it? No. You guys, it's the best. It's like, I can't even begin to like. I think UK festivals, I mean, we only have one data point, which was Mighty Hoopla. So fun.
Starting point is 01:00:46 It's the gay one. It's the queer one. It's an incredible name. It's so funny. And it was. Where is that? That's like, oh my God. It's on, um, it's.
Starting point is 01:00:54 Oh, it's a neighborhood down. Neighborhood down. It's a neighborhood down. It's a neighborhood down. It's in a neighborhood down. Couldn't tell you. Wait. When are they going to get Percy Pigs to the States?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Let's leave the charge. I don't know. Do you love them so much? So much. I like them too. Okay, well, you don't care. I think they're so common these days. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:01:18 She loves Skittles. Do you have a favorite candy? Um, I'm like- This is the question we ask every guest What was the candy that made you say candy was for you? Um, what's my favorite candy at Reese's pieces? Come on, that's chocolate. It's barely chocolate.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Girl. Girl. That's not that I've ever seen it. Pick a candy or else? Um, while I ate, I ate a candy yesterday. Which was? Which was a sour pickle belt. What?
Starting point is 01:01:52 What the fuck? Who is she? It was so good. What's up with you guys in your personals? Oh. Okay. She didn't want to talk about candy anymore. No, I mean all day, but...
Starting point is 01:02:00 No, for real. For real. But this is the thing. No, let's talk about our personal. Just what's going on. You guys are so busy. Well, my personal is... I'm happy because we're busy.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah. I like being busy doing anything. I guess over well, like in a pariscial way, overwhelmed for the both of you. No. There's no need. That you think we're too busy? Not too, but just you're doing like so much at such a high level that I think like, how, how?
Starting point is 01:02:23 I'm coming off of plain psychosis For sure Like travel psychosis Yes well I mean I think back to when you were like doing Wicked I mean I'm wicked and SNL I'm like how the hell And like I just think sometimes It was it was a how the hell for sure
Starting point is 01:02:40 Now in retrospect I think we're happy That Wicked is out there and that you're in it Oh but during it Yeah you had to do it I had to there was no way I wasn't going to do both you know what I mean gay guy that's offered wicked. And they tell you, and you say, well, what's the role?
Starting point is 01:02:57 And you say, well, you're going to be Ariana Grande's sort of gay best friend. And so they, and then you go, okay, yeah. Yeah. Brought to you by the spam brand. Matt, I think we need a new culture award. And the category is hungry for more. Oh, I like the sound of that. This is something that brings the sizzle.
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Starting point is 01:04:47 Bell, connection is everything. What's up, fam? I'm sports journalist Ari Chambers. Hey, what's up y'all? It's your girl, Sam J. And we're the host of everyone watches women's sports, a new podcast from Together and I Heart Women's Sports. Because let's be real. Women's sports is giving us way too much to talk about these days.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So Kelsey Finler, she became the first female solo rower to go from California to Hawaii. My first thought is, like, what's up with the snacks? Like, what are we eating? The highlights, the rivalries, the breakout stars, the moments that take over your entire timeline. And the conversations that start during the game and somehow keep going all week.
Starting point is 01:05:24 Every week, we're breaking down the biggest stories across women's sports. Naomi Osaka showing out, she beat. Sabalinka. Shout out to you, Naomi. You get the palm, Naomi. You get the palm for that. Because we're not just interested in what happened.
Starting point is 01:05:37 We're interested in why everyone's talking about it. Because everyone watches women's sports. Listen to everyone watches women's sports. On the I-Heart radio app. Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, Portlandia fans. Carrie Brownstein and Fred Armisen here. You know what?
Starting point is 01:05:54 rather, you know them. Tony and Candice, Nina and Lance, Spike, and yes, the chicken. We've played a lot of iconic characters over the years, but today we're showing up as ourselves to tell you about Podlandia, AEO rewatch, our brand new podcast. Each week, we'll revisit an episode of Portlandia from the very beginning, breaking down the sketches, exploring the backstories of our most iconic characters, revisiting the Portland locations you know and love, and opening up about our creative process. How did any of this get made? Why do you think that was a good idea? idea. We're ready to talk about it.
Starting point is 01:06:26 And we'll also be joined by the people who helped bring it all to life. Guest stars, collaborators and friends, including director Jonathan Chryssel, the mayor himself, Kyle McLaughlin, legendary musician Amy Mann, and many more. Kyle is going for it here. You fully improvised, not just words, but a song. Well, I thought he was going to write. I thought you were all going to write a song. I remember you thinking that. Listen to Podlandia. Ayo, rewatch on the IHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast, Hollywood Handbook. Every episode we're trying to help our guests improve their careers by mainly focusing on how they can help us improve our careers. The show's famously super accessible so you can easily jump into any of our 650 episodes and understand what's going on. We recommend some of our recent episodes with Ben Stiller.
Starting point is 01:07:17 The definition of what is a movie has kind of changed anywhere, too, right? What do you think it is now? It's images and words being spoken, captured. by some sort of technology. Danny McBride. He loves Mouthins. Oh, that's fantastic. And you make it on, you make your own.
Starting point is 01:07:33 That's great. I call him Tarot Reed. It's a good name. They're all named after cast members of American Pie. Yeah. Oh, gotcha. I call, I don't, I never looked up if she was in this, but I call him Leachie Sobieski.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Yeah, I don't think she was an American Pie, but I still like that. Haven't looked it up. She was prominent around the same time. Yeah. Then Mary Steenburgeon. Why are you going to? I'm worried. I'm worried.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Why are you talking so down to me that you think I don't understand your little play game? I just really. I get it. I'm trying to set you up for success here. Listen to Hollywood Handbook on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think we're having another like 2024 moment. Like girl. There's so much music coming out.
Starting point is 01:08:19 It's the best news. It's so cool. I was watching someone react to Short and Sweet. And I remember texting you about Short and Sweet when it came out. Yes. And you were like, I can't believe she just swooped in and made the album of the year at the last second. Yeah, yeah, I know. It's, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But also, what can't she do? And, like, I think, I feel like all of us at this point are done being surprised by how phenomenal. She's just cemented, like, forever, forever, forever. Yeah. I'm like, there's like, you know. And I'm also, like, talk about someone who I wish would take an app for the sake of her heart and soul. What do I know? And she seems like, I mean, she's glowing harder than ever.
Starting point is 01:08:53 You guys are all coming up and solidifying. together at the same time in a generation that feels very cool. You're a part of like a cool class of pop girlies. I love them. I'm just happy to be here today. Are you on a group chat for you all? No. Not necessarily. It's a group chat
Starting point is 01:09:11 called Slade 2024 and now 2026. 2024 is back. 24 we're so back. It's the two year anniversary of 2020. Yeah, exactly. Do you ever go into Soho and like hang? Like not all. Often. No.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I don't know a lot of it. Is that a weird thing for you to do? No, there's a couple of yommies. There's some yummy. And even to Mountain. No. What's so good about the mountain?
Starting point is 01:09:39 The Mountain. It is basically like the mountain. It's so good. It's just a really delicious restaurant. It's like super, super fresh, like, yummy, like small plates, but also like big plates. Well, we love DeSchum. We love to shoem. I love to shoem so much.
Starting point is 01:09:53 We ate it to shoem twice last time. the time like three times a week yeah deliver it to shim yeah my code is 24 if you need it slay 2024 did you guys you shot in london was it at what's it called leaves den and we did elstree and then we went we shot like all the shit stuff like in this um literal astro turf farm because they got to grow it because it's fake because it was real well i understand oh sorry astro turf not real it was never clear it was never clear if it was like it was astro turf and then it was fake like Why don't you just make it in the factory? But they needed to lay it out or something.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Make it in the factory. Just make it in the factory. Just make it in the factory. All of the air, just make it in the factory. And then we would stay at the Grove, which is all the way out. But anyway, we love to shooam and it's fine. It's amazing. No, it's not fine.
Starting point is 01:10:42 It's an excellent. And I heard a room where they're bringing it to America. Wow, great. Did I make that up? No, you didn't. Wow. They really are. New York.
Starting point is 01:10:50 I love their sauces. Their chutneys and such. Oh my God. They're chicken biryani, Britannica. Britannia. Britannica. Chicken Britannica. He's probably your drag name.
Starting point is 01:11:04 Oh my God. That's good. Chicken Britannica. That's good. And I'll be pork Britannica. Yeah. You're not pork. What am I?
Starting point is 01:11:13 You're not pork. I roll. I roll. I'm veal. I'm veal Britannica. Yes. Wow, I love that for me. Wait.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I just winked at your team. I'd made eye contact with her. And I got. I'm always doing shit like that with them. Do you love the team? I love everyone so much. Oh, give yourself a hand. Give it out for the team.
Starting point is 01:11:36 It's really, I'm the luckiest in the universe. So you're loving, your loving life, it's going to be an incredible sum. It's going to be a sum. It's going to be a sum. It's going to be a busy. Yes. But, but like, thank God. Thank God.
Starting point is 01:11:49 And I think, I think there's so much to return. to at home as well. Yeah, that's good. I love, I also love learning what it's like to be at home to. Congrats on your cultural award nomination. Thank you so much. We were both touched beyond
Starting point is 01:12:08 belief. Beyond belief. And there were so many options of them. I was like, Bail. We did it. We did it, hon. Wait, he wanted a picture with me when he was at SNL. Oh, that was, I, that was, that
Starting point is 01:12:24 was I loved that episode of course he was so funny we wrote him the craziest sketch in the world was you talking about the oh wait was she in she was oh of course yeah she was in the flesh
Starting point is 01:12:38 she was in the flesh she was not in that episode of SNL god that was amazing the fact first of all the fact that like end credits it's Paul and Trisha Trisha Pade I was like I can I can go now by the way
Starting point is 01:12:51 Trisha is television's biggest star She stars on hacks And she also was on Was she on the comeback? She was on euphoria just now Yeah she was on euphoria I don't know Trisha is all over television
Starting point is 01:13:04 Are you guys dear friends Bowen knows Trisha I spent one day with her I just didn't know I was like it didn't know where in the like Because I just of course like the rest I have a million Of course questions
Starting point is 01:13:17 Like I just want to know everything Well the best was when we went to go see Lily Allen's show And then there's a bit in the show Will Lillian points to Madeline. This woman rises up and Bowen is like, is that Trisha? And it was Trisha Paitis.
Starting point is 01:13:30 By the way, the next night, it was Lisa Rana. I saw that. Incredible. I saw that. Do you have Bravo takes? Well, so you've been my guide. Yeah. That was definitely not the start of us loving each other.
Starting point is 01:13:45 No. Or me loving you. I can't speak for you. But it was the secret of us. It was the secret of us. It was the. Sex. sort of worked. That was really nice. That's really good. Thanks. It was really nice. I've just
Starting point is 01:13:59 done Salt Lake. Yeah. Or I've died a while ago. Can I ask? Big polls from Salt Lake. Where do you stand? Who is who's your girl? What's scary again about like the memory of it all is I don't even remember where we left them. Totally. That's, I think, fine. Where did we leave them? Oh, oh. Probably upset on an island. about Whitney Bronwynne. Bronwyn and Bronwyn and Bronwyn left her shoes not
Starting point is 01:14:28 in her relationship. Oh yes she announced that she's getting a divorce That was where we left it right? Yes, yes. She and taught her not together. What are my takes? She now dates a male model. Incredible.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Yeah. Oh, but Survivor, not Bravo. What if there's a Bravo Survivor crossover? Can I pitch that? I think you just did. Imagine. And this is the place where manifestation happens. Survivor?
Starting point is 01:14:50 Wait, we were just talking about the season. This is going to come out, like, soon. Heather Gay is, like, taking everyone down. I think Heather Gay would be good. Heather Gay would be great. You guys are different. She'd be like, you have no idea what I'm fighting for at home. What was her, what was her, what was her?
Starting point is 01:15:05 I want to win Survivor. What was her line, season one of Salt Lake? I'm devastated. Like my, like my pioneer ancestors. I'm blazing a new trail. I'm blazing a new trail. I'm blazing a new trail. Just like my pioneer ancestors.
Starting point is 01:15:17 I've never been so happy. Favorite is, is, my favorite is. If you come from me, I will send Jesus after you. Who is that? Maryam Cosby herself. Oh, yeah, of course. And Meredith's jealousy is a disease, to which I say, get well soon. To which I say.
Starting point is 01:15:33 Which I say. We've said syntactically makes no sense. She's saying to the disease. To see is a disease. To which I say, get well soon. There are, that is. She should keep speaking and not making sense. It's her whole bag.
Starting point is 01:15:47 It's her whole thing. God. can leave. Well, you didn't speak up for me at all. Yeah, the eyes. Well, you didn't speak up for me at all. She's recording us? You have to leave.
Starting point is 01:15:58 It's the looking down the, there's the like head to look well. I have a question. What's the goal? What's the goal? Well, she can fuck off. It's a never-ending wheel of way you can say words. That is just. Fuck off.
Starting point is 01:16:20 It's very Brian Cox. It is. I would love to see. Actors and actors, Meredith Marks and Brian Cox. Yeah, can you do it one more time? Fuck off. And he turns around. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:33 And then turns around. Fuck off. Fuck off. It's succession. Fuck off. Fuck off. You went a little. Oh, Helena better get you saying fuck off in the movie.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I will put that in whatever my next conversation is. You ever like give each other a word to drop in a, in a, in like, an interview or something. No, should we do that? I dare you to do fuck a wolf. Fuck wolf. Okay, so we should do that. We're going to be, we're about to be doing a lot of interviews together, but this will come out, I think, after all those interviews. So now let's say, let's choose. This is an Easter egg. This is an Easter egg. McGita Perez. Okay. Okay. Yep.
Starting point is 01:17:05 That should be easy, to be honest. Okay. What interview is going to be the hardest one to drop Magita Perez. Are you guys doing? Now watch what happens live, the nonsense. New York Times cooking. How many times have you done that? Watch what happens? I think this is my 10th appearance. Is it fun? So fine. And so quick. I feel like I need more. Context.
Starting point is 01:17:23 No, no, no. Just more, well, yes, of the Bravoverse. Like, I feel, I would feel like a bit of a fraud, I think being across from him and like speaking on anything. Sally Field was on the other than I didn't know shit about Bravo, but she's Sally Field. But she can do it. She can do it every one. Well, that's you. You're Sally Field too.
Starting point is 01:17:41 Don't even look at me like that. Never, never even. What, like Sally Field? Don't look at me like Sally. That's a. Real Culture number eight. Don't look at me like Sally. You said to role model every night when he opened for you.
Starting point is 01:17:54 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do not look at that. Wait, what's our word for Gracie? Oh, for me. For you to drop in an interview. Give me anything. Piss. No, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Ding dong. Ionic. Ding dong. Happily. Okay. If, if. Ionic. It's crazy. Ionic.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Just describe some. That could, that's like, it's like whether they are they, ask a question like what's it like writing a song it's like there's this ionic I was gonna say like that you lean against I wanted to describe I wanted to explore like a more ionic sound on this album and
Starting point is 01:18:30 it works I buy it because people are gonna be like yeah people love that shh and then some people are gonna be like what the fuck is she talking about what do you have to be brave enough they block me to traffic in that confusion they block you don't understand why anyone would
Starting point is 01:18:46 what new music are you guys liking these days. Mona. Yeah, of course. Moona. Do you guys listen to underscores? Oh, no. Talk about this.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Listen to the beginning of this. Just like. Yeah. Isn't it beautiful? Kind of image and like. Wait, I've heard this. But it's kind of like. Fuck, I love it.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Oh, it's a gag. It's really good. Have you put this on a playlist and sent it to me and I did like each other. He always does that. Um, Sue B Club? You would love CB Club. It's very like punk, but with this kind of like... Okay, you're a Slater fan.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I saw you at Coachella. And Tom Mish. Oh, amazing. I've been spending that album for weeks. Some of my friends are deeply obsessed and in it, and I need to kind of like spend more time there. In the Tom world? Hot little British guy, you know?
Starting point is 01:19:40 Incredible. We love that. Right now I'm very... Kiss me and I'm a drop-down. Oh, of course. Of course. I'm kind of dropped dead. Every time the radio comes on.
Starting point is 01:19:50 And I have to say I... Follow me there. Can't believe begged. The second show she sang on SNL. I know. She's a freak. She's such a freak. Her voice has never sounded better somehow.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Yeah. It's just the control. I'll say the same thing for you, by the way. And wait, can we just, before we do, I don't think so honey, actually talk about your amazing work. I just want to say, like, we were listening to, Jared and I listened to it together, hit the wall. can you just talk about like finding all this bigness in your sound? Because you've always had big emotions and I feel like this sounds sonically is even bigger and matching those emotions now.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Is that something you strove for? Well, I think it was just like being in, the whole thing was informed by having been on the road for the past few years. But like really diving into the production process once it ended. And I think that there was a lot of like more patience or like space. in this album actually or it felt like it matched my sort of internal rhythm being off road off road when you were off when you were off tour you were off the road when tour ended and so I feel like there's this kind of to me conversation in the album between having space and then also when songs do want to build we were very intricate in the production of so many vocal layers and where you know
Starting point is 01:21:14 I felt like the story would benefit from that kind of impact. And it was a real treat to make. I don't know. We were, it was all very thoughtful. And Aaron and I made this together again. This is our sixth year working together. And I love him because he's not like, he sort of reminds me, at least, that you don't need to make some radical change in order to like have your next album be a valid step. step forward in your kind of like artistry or just being a person.
Starting point is 01:21:49 It's like it can just accurately reflect where you're at. And to me this felt like it felt like the most elevated version of all of the ways that we've written and worked together in the past. Like there's his Gothic fulky sounds that he's like mayor of Gothic Folk Town. And like what if it's right and humming do things like that? And then like Good Reason feels like a sister song to I Love You I'm Sorry. ways to me, but like, different. And then, like, look at my life.
Starting point is 01:22:19 We wrote to a pulse, which we do all the time. Or, like, cold goodbyes. We just did one instrument in my vocal. Or, like, hit the wall felt like, I don't know. There are all these kind of, like, trances that envelop us in the studio. And this was a real heavenly experience to do it. And I'm grateful to him because I was how to have. having this like on tour toward the end where everyone has been on the bus and with each other
Starting point is 01:22:52 and just like the energy and the kind of like social like being on and the where you're sort of like white knuckling in a way that is full of gratitude but also like survival mode a bit in order to get through I was just so my voice inside my head was like not there anymore like I was so I just I felt like absolutely gone. And Aaron's music with no words and no vocal nothing like always sort of like presses some button in me that like allows me to remember what I feel and remember my perspective and hear myself again. So this album was a surprise to me.
Starting point is 01:23:35 That's really interesting. Like he he's amazing creates like escape for you to then like inhabit. Yeah. Like hear yourself again. That's really cool. I was thinking while I was listening to it that it's made for a live experience too. Like daughter from hell is just going to be such a communal moment for everyone there, I feel. I hope so.
Starting point is 01:23:53 And you do have them wanting that experience. Well, they're really bringing it. I get to just hang out and watch them have a good time. It's really nice. But that song in particular we wrote with this particular show in mind. Not this album, but we were thinking about a specific festival. experience. And that's on this amazing baritone guitar and it's just playing that. We've been in rehearsals this past week for lots of things and playing that live with the band. It has to feel so
Starting point is 01:24:24 good. Yeah. And like it's interesting. It's so fun how quickly like already playing these songs with the band. I'm like my favorite song is shifting around always. And so I think, you know, just shout out to where are you at today, favorite song wise. I think the knife for some reason. I love the knife. That song gets me. Fuck. It's so. It's so. good live. Like it's such a band song. Yes. And they're all just such brilliant players. So everyone who worked on this album, I'm addicted to.
Starting point is 01:24:52 And I admire so much. So it was a joy. It's truly well, thank you for sharing all that. That's so profound. Thanks for listening and letting me talk about it. You didn't say ionic, so whatever. Oh shit. Yeah, you just have to say ionic. Well, maybe like tune into like 1 or 2.7. Kiss FM will be like just the ionic
Starting point is 01:25:11 force. What? What? Honestly, if an interviewer one day says, so talk about the ionic nature of this album, know that we sent them there. I'll say ding-dong. Yeah. And it'll be this way. And they'll come in with a million dollars.
Starting point is 01:25:25 It's a Mr. Beast challenge. Anyways, with that in mind, it is time for I don't think so, honey. And really what it is, is it's a one-minute segment on this podcast where sort of cathartically, tear down something in culture that's been giving us some troubles.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I'm finally speaking truth about something on this podcast. Finally. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so when his time starts now. I don't think so honey sunglasses shopping
Starting point is 01:25:49 when you have a long head and a bridge of your nose that is what? A little crooked. It's especially complicated by the fact that I'm colorblind. I go in to a sunglass store, shop, stand,
Starting point is 01:26:01 whatever it is, any of those S locations. And I am met with Strife, another S. Because basically I can't, cannot find a pair of sunglasses that fit my face.
Starting point is 01:26:13 I am going to need them custom made. I put them on. It's a little bit askew. I would rather they be full askew because then it could be a statement. This is just nothing. It's just a little bit wrong. I already had the nose job. Yep.
Starting point is 01:26:29 So now what? Non-elective. Medically. I medically needed to have it. 15 seconds. But they wouldn't let me use my insurance to cover it because they said it was elective. But I say if you saw the cyst in my nose at the time, you would know.
Starting point is 01:26:43 I couldn't have lived with it. No. I don't know how we got there, but I don't think so honey, sunglasses shopping. Is that one minute? That's nice. Where was the cyst?
Starting point is 01:26:52 Oh, honey. In there. Right there. I'll show you an old picture of my nose. Could you not breathe? So get this. It didn't affect my breathing at all. It was just like an inch long cyst.
Starting point is 01:27:01 Your doctors are like, it's elected. No, no, no. Jared was my boyfriend at the time I had the cyst. Was that a medical necessity? It was the definition of necessity. Because it smelled, didn't it? Everyone, stop. This is my foot and my nose are my things to share.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Everyone stop. This is my thing with sunglasses shopping. Oh, I put on sunglasses. I go to the mirror to see myself. I can't see a damn thing in the news. It's so dark all of a sudden. That's a real culture. Dark love of a sudden.
Starting point is 01:27:29 I put on sunglasses. It's all dark all of a sudden. Can't see a thing. You have an amazing nose. Thank you for saying that. What do you mean? Crooked. Where?
Starting point is 01:27:37 You'll see. If you really look, it's a little bit the bone here. I don't. I can't see, but I trust you, of course. Is the crooked in the room with us? I also have a, I also have a sunglasses problem. Let me see. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:27:51 Absolutely straight. See, this is why I own these, though. Oh, wow. Did you get them fixed for you? No, no, no. This was. Really? Look at them.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Thank goodness. Look at them. Very Aussie. Wow, out of the whole wicked soundtrack, I chose, Thank goodness. Like could have been You're famous notes You're Glinda
Starting point is 01:28:15 I'm gonna be Glinda Dutton Durning your I don't think so honey Okay so this is Bowen Yangs I don't think so honey Do you have a topic on today? I do Fabious This is Bose I don't think so honey I always go to the wrong thing before I time
Starting point is 01:28:29 It his time starts Now I don't think so honey Reading taking such a long time I want to read every damn book in the world basically but it takes a minute it do take time. What book?
Starting point is 01:28:43 Results in time. I wish I could read a book in merely five minutes, but no. I think I am on page 57, and I'm going to be on this page for the next six months. And that's what sucks about reading. A lot of great things about reading, but the worst, shittiest thing about reading. 30 seconds. Is how you have to basically sit or stand and be visually uninteresting as this thing that has to ferment in your brain takes hold.
Starting point is 01:29:12 I wish it were faster. There's no real substitute for actual reading. And I think we would be a much better society if we had, if our eyes moved faster, if we could read words on top of each other, stacked on top of each other, but there's just no way around it. Five seconds. It's linear. And I wish it were radial. And that's one minute.
Starting point is 01:29:32 So what book is giving you trouble? Yeah, I was going to say, drop it. Middle March. Oh, wow. Oh. I always try to have a middle March summer. I always try to have a middle March summer. It doesn't. In fact, speaking of Wicked, I keep putting it down. I keep putting it because it's a big, big book.
Starting point is 01:29:46 And I had, well, that's what I was going to say, like, of course, that would take anyone time. It would take anyone time. But I had it on the set of Wicked. And then Cynthia was like, what book is that? I was like, it's Middlemarch by George Elliott. And it's actually a a woman, whatever. This was her pseudonym. She goes, I'll read that. I'll read it. Yeah, I was going to say, I'll read it. I was going to say, I was going to say, I was going on the day. I was going to read it in a week. And I was like, she does everything fast. Have you seen a run? I know. I was like, Cynthia.
Starting point is 01:30:11 I listened to this while I ran the marathon. She is like, I was playing Dracula. She's like, he's like a super human. She is incredible. Have you seen you play Dracula?
Starting point is 01:30:19 I haven't. I play it 27 different ways. Have you seen it? No. No, because I do it. No, because I do it. I don't see it. I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:30:28 I am it. Maybe it's, I don't think so, honey, like, well, actually, no, I can't. Do you ever start to talk like this?
Starting point is 01:30:35 No. Is it Irish accent harder than now? Hell, Yeah. Yeah. He's talking crazier, man. He's talking all sorts of shit. Are you ready for your, I don't think so, honey?
Starting point is 01:30:46 I think so, yeah. Okay. I have, I, I, do you keep, like, a bunch of them in your head, or do you have one that's been? Well, what was concerning me is that I, I, which I think is also, like, maybe, maybe pleasant, but then I was thinking about the two of you. I was like, I, I, I, I, don't. Don't. Don't think about us. I was, like, I was like, I, even as I, as I, as I, because I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I,
Starting point is 01:31:09 even in this moment, I'm like, there's a couple that I could go with. And I might say them all. Follow your heart. Say them all. If they all come out, they all come out. I might list them all. This is Gracie Abrams. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:31:21 Your time starts now. Okay. I don't think so, honey, travel etiquette addition with love and understanding that everyone operates in their own individual way. Sure. My personal hope and dream is that in public spaces, like, not to go back to the feet. Please. But I feel it's fascinating, the impulse.
Starting point is 01:31:39 when we're on a plane 30,000 feet up in the air in a metal tube that we're taking our socks all the way off. That fascinates me. I've also recently been on a flight where people were clipping their nails on the flight. Flight attendants are angels in the sky. Yes. Forget everyone you're sitting next to you.
Starting point is 01:31:55 You're making everyone uncomfortable. They are seeing that, and that's their space. So I would just say, please. Another thing is, when you're going through TSA, you have to put the tray back in the thing. Oh, get bad. And then you feel performative beyond when you put everyone else's not a nice feeling. No.
Starting point is 01:32:15 And then my last two are, oh shit. Go, stay both. The mouth of the, of the machine when the bags are coming out. Yeah. We bum rush. If everyone took a step back, we'd have air to breathe and we would have room to see. And we'd have also room to stretch post-flight. And I just think these are things to maybe consider.
Starting point is 01:32:34 And I'll leave it there. I don't think so, honey. has been completed in one minute and 16 seconds. Do you know what the other thing was? Because you said there were two things that you decided to leave it there, but there's something else. I just think,
Starting point is 01:32:47 I don't think, I don't think so honey, like, Sig shaming anyone but yourself. Oh, okay, got it. Cigarette shaming? Totally. Don't cigarette shamed other people.
Starting point is 01:32:56 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, everyone is doing their best. Yeah, I would agree. Are you a smoker? Like, everyone's in a while. Everyone, I do it on vacation. Every once in a while. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:04 It's a sunny Saturday. Yeah. Or, you gotta do it or I've had one to five drinks yeah I'm just saying like I'm so fascinated by the policing of certain behaviors and I'm like I get it like I understand
Starting point is 01:33:17 and we all have the same information exactly and therefore like you don't know what's going on everyone's lives I do have to be a vaporizer police though I certainly am not on that wave I and I know and I know when I heard that story I stopped I was on a line bike got off it stop really
Starting point is 01:33:34 my god because I was like hold on I was going too fast I needed to slow down and hear you. These behaviors. Got off and then walked home. And I would argue a line bike is sort of the vapes of vehicles. Well, and then another I don't think so honey that I was sitting on was that like I don't think so honey. City bikes don't have the phone holders.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Oh. Which is for safety and for like a beautiful social kind of you can call your friend. Like not in a dangerous way. NGPS or whatever. I know I know New York is a grid and I know London like you really need to know where you're going. But London has the holders. Yeah. They do it all better
Starting point is 01:34:07 I know No, let's come on New York New York is fantastic But yeah Anyway listen This has been Just thank you
Starting point is 01:34:16 Just thank you No thank you so much This is this podcast What you guys make Is a big part of the You know Joy of my every week So thank you
Starting point is 01:34:26 And I couldn't be more obsessed with you I literally just couldn't be more grateful And you guys are I'm just I wish it wasn't ending I'm like it's not one o'clock Well we
Starting point is 01:34:35 We've done a lot. We've got Ionic back in the conversation. Oh, yeah. We've coined Megita Red. Megita Redez. Redez. The original title of that was the Aubrey situation. The Aubrey situation.
Starting point is 01:34:47 The Audrey situation. The Audrey situation and music. Then there's the Aubrey situation. Do we Megita Perez? No, Megita Redes. You liked the Audrey situation. I want people to stumble on Megita Perez the way that I did, which was not expecting and being absolutely gobsmacked.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Okay, what's title of up? You would set it. I forget what it was, but it's in there. Everything feet. Everything feet. Everything feet. That feels perfect. That's perfect.
Starting point is 01:35:15 Oh, they're going to flip. Everything feet with Gracie Abrams. Okay, well, looking forward to that, hitting your airwaves soon, which is now, actually. Daughter from Hell. Daughter from Hell. And album is fantastic. All of your music is. Everything you do is exciting and great, and we love you.
Starting point is 01:35:31 And we'll see you. We'll see you. over Universal Studios, 2030. See in 2030, guys. We had every episode with a song. What did we say we were gonna do? Oh. How does it start?
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