Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Experience Cinema" (w/ Michelle Yeoh)

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

In this legendary episode, there is joy, there are tears, there are discussions that need to be heard. Naturally the only guest for this episode would be Michelle Yeoh! Her new film Everything Everywhere All At Once is important cinema and if you haven't seen the film, we recommend you stop right now, go watch the film, and then come back and listen! And if you have watched, do not wait any longer! PRESS PLAY! You will not regret it. Also, of course, we hear about Michelle's upbringing and how the experience of going to a movie theater really lit up her life. Love, tears, cinema history, and some IDTSH's that will have you jumping from your seats! Plus so much love for Stephanie Hsu!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas calling. Oof. Oof. It's just me and Beau because we are post-coital right now. We're post-coital. We have post-nut clarity, joy. We didn't have all the time in the world with our guest.

By now you know it's Michelle Yeoh. You're looking at the title. Unreal. The app. You know, she's been doing days of press for this movie everything everywhere all at once which you must see if you haven't already and in fact we do get into some spoilers

so just if you're listening now just know you know maybe you hold off on listening to this episode please go see the movie first yeah implore you because we really get into you know we really talked to her about what it was like to work on this. And it was just such a special conversation.

It's really, I mean, this is, I think, one of my favorite moments we've had on the podcast, not only because, you know, she's such an incredible icon of screen and just like cinema history, but also she was a very real person. And I think that she had a lot to say that like really resonated about how she prepares and how she's never stops learning when she's on set. And she just really a very grounded person. And you wish that someone like her gets her do like this. You know what I mean? You really do. You really do. And it's that, you know, classic thing where at this point, you know, this is something that Matt says all the time, which is, can anyone else do this role? Can anyone else, you know, do what this actor does in any given project? And we definitely feel like that's not the case with Michelle and everything everywhere all at once. Like the role was written for her. There, there, there aren't that many Asian female actresses who can pull off action in a sci-fi comedy who can pull off physical comedy as well as martial arts.

Like that is like, she's, I've listened to her talk about the nuance and the difference between physical comedy, which she's never done before and martial arts, which she has and like how much fun it was for her. Anyway, we're really just like soaring from this interview.

It was so fun. It's a little bit tighter than usual because of the time constraints we had, but so much fun. I mean, it's just unreal because I've seen the movie now twice as you'll hear, and I'm so overwhelmed because it's that thing, Beau, you know, way back when we first met the people that we all met, and you had a feeling about certain people, and then come to find out it happened to be true. So Stephanie Shue is like our old

friend from college. I think we probably all met when we were like 19. 19. I was probably, I was 18. Yeah. So Bowen is famously a little bit younger than us, which she just mentioned, I was 18. Yeah, so Bowen is famously a little bit younger than us, which he just mentioned, which was not rude at all to mention his young age. But Stephanie is literally one of those people that you meet

and is just such a- And you're like, oh my God. Yeah, she's truly limitless in terms of what she's able to do. That's the perfect word. I'm also really happy that she got to show off her beautiful voice in this movie. So it's everything. I mean, and it really bowled me over, Beau,

because more and more I'm realizing that those people that we had a good feeling about from way back, actually that was true. And how lucky to be in the orbit of some of these people. I mean mean this is such a incredible performance and all the performances are amazing but i have to like sit here and tally as well you know what i mean like you got to see it to believe it i texted you right after i saw it the first time i was like steph is gonna blow your fucking mind and you

know what's funny it's like first of all this this is like the most Steph movie of all time. Like if you know Steph, from everything, from like the chaos of it to like the bagel, I was like, Steph found the Steph shoe movie to do. And maybe you know Steph from Marvelous Mrs. Maisel or you've seen her on Broadway. She was in SpongeBob and Be More Chill. Be More Chill, yeah.

So people are aware of her, but now they're going to become super aware of her. Just watching my friend. It's crazy. Because she was there. She does all these different things, but she was there the whole time. And I was like, in this amazing

way. You know what I mean? And I was just like, oh my God, that's Steph. I know. She always says like, oh, I gave up on comedy because the hours were crazy and she had other things going on. But she was doing political subversities. It was the show in New York City at the same theater that Pop Roulette did shows at. Steph is just one of those people that you would run into all the time and be like, oh, what are you working on? And to see her do this is really incredible.

And I just were so, so, so thrilled. We must have her on the podcast. And I'll sort of mention some stuff to her then, but I'm just thinking back to like conversations we had in college and truly like such a, like a great friend. And I just like, I'm like sitting around like emotional. I'm so emotional about the movie

because of the messages in it, but also it's just really special to see someone that you care about who's so talented. I know. And so full of love and always was supportive of us. Woo! We shared a couple days on set

together at Nora. This was right before she was about to start shooting. Yeah, because the Daniels directed that episode of Nora? The Daniels directed the flashback episode of Nora from Queens where it's Grandma telling Nora her story and it all kind of gets shot in the style of, like, a C-drama or a K-drama.

And, um, you know, and that's where the Daniels, like, met, like, Harry Shum Jr., who's in the movie. He's so good in the movie, too. Oh my gosh, he was so good. So funny, so great. I've never been more excited to support a project that, like,

I had nothing to do with which sounds so disgustingly vain but it is weird when someone's like so hyped for something that like in our business at least like it's someone's hype for something that like they had no part of yeah but we need more of that i know i i totally agree i i because i always feel like that's how we get interesting yes i don't i don't even know what i'm saying it's just like i mean that's really what i want this podcast to be anyway, as I would, I would love,

you know, that's so interesting talking about it, like 300 episodes in like what we want it to be, but I guess that's a good sign. No. Yeah. That like, you know,

now that we're able to have access to someone like Michelle, yo, like it's so mind blowing, but I do think that like, especially nowadays when people aren't necessarily going out to the theater like i'm happy like that that like there's things out there that are there's really challenging things out there available to us that we can go see like i'm going to new york um next week and i'm gonna see five broadway shows and i haven't done that in years but i think there's

like there's like a renewed interest in me and like seeing things and absorbing things and i think that that's that's like a really important thing now that the world is opening back up as i knock fucking wood but um like you got to get out there and see stuff and then share what you loved about it with people i mean i know that's like a simple maybe like you know sort of stupid thing to say but like tell people what you like i mean like and i i guess that's what is so podcast that's like this podcast and i that's what i want it to be and that's why i feel like while this feels like a crazy episode for us because i never in a million years bow and we started this on fucking mercer street in new york thought that we would get to the point where we could have michelle yo on our podcast. But now that we can, it's like, I'm so excited because I genuinely feel like

I can't express enough how this movie enriched me. Likewise. And there aren't that many movies that I can rattle off that have had such an effect on me. I didn't even get to say this to her. I watched that movie. All I can think about is my mom. And that's what I think about. I think about my mom all the time

when I see Michelle Yeoh in movies. I remember going to Crouching Tiger with my mom and being like, wait, she kind of talks like my mom does. And she has the same sort of warmth and energy and strength and whatever. Anyway, I'm just talking about my mom now. But with everything I've ever read all at once is literally the story of this woman who's like,

what if I had done things differently? And my mom, and her loving way, she's not saying this in like a, a way to like give me an existential crisis or like throttle me into that kind of crisis. But she always is like, you know, I think about all the time if I had stayed in China, like I would have been this very successful doctor.

I would have not had you because you're the second child because you know, back then it was one child only like, and she, it's a very common thing in the immigrant experience at least not to make specifically about that to be like what if it's very much about that though no and but it's a universal thing like everybody walks this earth going what if i had done things differently what if things were different enough that were out of my control you know like everyone is in that space all the time and it's the perfect concept

to bring into a multiverse movie. It's just so, I loved this movie so much. It's so smart on so many different levels and it's also fun and it's moving. And it's because the thing about this film is, and we should just say, it's also wild. I mean, like it's a truly crazy movie and you'll be asking yourself what the hell is going on you've never seen anything like this and then it becomes

clear but the thing is while it is so expansive and so ambitious and so audacious it's also very simple in terms of the story yeah it's actually just about a family trying to come back together and it's about realizing what you have and it's about understanding possibility but embracing reality yeah and and it's just it's just so good it's about accepting whatever reality you're in yeah and noticing noticing i fucking love this movie so much it was so good and also especially and blah blah blah but in a time when everything is a sequel or you know a franchise movie yeah like you gotta go out and support this movie uh what we say in the episode like put on a mask if that makes you feel better if you haven't been out to the theaters like this is the movie to go see you won't regret it you

really won't regret it it's not the kind of movie that you'll be like, eh, whatever. Yeah, no. No, no, no, no, no. At the very least, you'll have a strong reaction. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. And isn't it fun to go to a movie and potentially hate it?

I don't think you will. You won't. But also, like, I don't know, like, it made me feel all the feelings. I mean, I did not just say it made me feel all the feels in 2022. Girl, is it 2011? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the feels.

But that's like, it's just, I don't know. It really transported me back to like, I don't know, maybe even feeling like that childlike thing of like going to the movies and something just is completely new. It's movie magic. It's movie magic, bitch. Not to spoil the interview, and if you haven't skipped all the

way to when Michelle Yeoh starts talking, God bless you. Thanks for listening to us talk. But she gets into that. Movie magic. It's this thing that's kind of hard to come by, especially, I felt this way before I saw the movie. I feel like I've been a little desensitized, just a little bit desensitized

to the viewing experience or the intake or like I feel like I've been a little desensitized, just a little bit desensitized to like the viewing experience or the intake or consumption of something that I'm watching. Cause I'm like in bed watching it like from a TV or an iPad or like it's sedentary. It's passive. Like there's something so literally activating about this movie that you watch it and you cannot help but go, Oh my God.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sensory overload that happens in that atmosphere. Yes, yes. That is not replicable at home. It really isn't. Unless you have like, you know,

a crazy Dolby setup or something. Unless you have a crazy Dolby setup. Honey, you're not going to get that experience. It's rule of culture number four. Unless you have a crazy Dolby setup, you're not going to get that experience. Honey. Anyway, do we have anything else to say?

I have nothing else to say. I'm so tapped from this conversation. Yeah. I'm just excited. I'm so excited. She was so generous with us. Just was so honest. She was giving ponytail through a white baseball cap.

Girl, can we talk about i guess people know this already but a hard reminder needs to be set that like this is a fucking style legend yeah okay glamour icon glamour icon she just came out with her interview magazine photos where she looks fucking amazing yeah um the ring in crazy rich asians is her ring oh wow did you hear that have you heard the story i think i actually do like like like the props like like like because the ring is like a plot point it's like yes like the young ring and it's like wow the eleanor young ring and it's like they like did like a pretty generic looking but still like you know like something that communicates wealth or whatever that this family has. But she came on to set or she saw the ring for the first time. She was like, no,

I have one better. I have a collection. She has this woman is like very unassuming in a lot of ways. But also I'm just reminded of the fact that she is married to the former CEO of Ferrari. Oh, Jesus. Like this woman knows fucking lavishness and luxury and and yet she still is like such an artist in her way and like it doesn't like would never let that show like doesn't let that inform anything about her in her work i know that's a weird thing to bring up but i just i'm obsessed with that like she's a fucking glamour she's like it's it feels old hollywood it feels like so fucking oh i love it it's so luxe but anyway it's her ring that giant fucking emerald i don't know what cut of diamond that is but so beautiful yeah this was i mean we're we're doing the fluffing of the century

here this foreplay that we're doing with i know i know readers i say let's just play the episode you're gonna hear us ding dong again the intro is very short with her i swear to that we're doing with the readers. I say, let's just play the episode. You're going to hear us ding dong again. The intro is very short with her. I swear to God, we're getting to Michelle Yeoh very, very, very soon. This feels like when you're about to get on the roller coaster, but like there's like a technical problem. It's like you waited for an hour and then you get there

and they're like, we're experiencing technical difficulties and you're like, fuck off. Right. But with no further ado, Bo. That's welcome. Michelle fucking, yo.

Come on. Ding dong. Lost culture. Reese is calling. Oh, Bowen. It's a moment in time. Yet again.

What was the last movie you saw multiple times in theaters besides everything, everywhere all at once? I would have to go back. I can't remember a movie that I was immediately excited to see again. That hasn't happened, especially in the theater,

especially pursuing the IMAX experience of it all. I was like, I have to see this on a giant screen with a bunch of people. I will say this. The last time I saw a movie repeatedly again and again and again was A Star is Born with Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper, which I famously did see four times opening weekend. Now, that does not mean that I wasn't equally moved by this new film, Everything Everywhere All at Once, which I've seen twice this week in the theaters.

And I know Bowen has as well. And I have to implore all of the readers of this podcast, everyone out there, to get to the theaters to see this. Bowen, I know you were just as excited as I was. I was. The superlatives are, there aren't enough. Do you know what I'm saying?

I think I told you immediately, our friend Stephanie Hsu is in it. We went to college with her. We can't wait to get into this with our guests. We can't wait to talk about it with our guests. There's really no need to introduce her in any way. She's truly a legend in cinema in so many ways.

We're so inspired and privileged to have her, so please welcome Michelle Yeoh! Hello, absolute cream. Oh my god, what an introduction to everything, everywhere all at at once i love you boys already well done especially because you are friends with my baby girl stephanie shoe we went to college with her i did sketch comedy with stephanie shoe i first met her as you know the hilarious

funny girl who could do anything and then as i got to know her i realized how she's so good with drama musical she's a completely insane person she's everything everywhere all at once absolutely yes i mean she is amazing in this she's amazing full stop so you are very lucky to have met her at the early age and i can't wait to see all the amazing things that she will continue to do and have the opportunity to do what was it like to what was like to set up that relationship and to sort of ground that into something that was very very convincing because by the end i mean matt and i've talked about this i i never cry at movies and i i did i did cry multiple times.

Multiple times. Both times I've seen it. Especially in that last scene. We won't spoil it, but there's a last moment with you and Stephanie's character, Joy, between Evelyn and Joy. What was the process like of just getting into that relationship? Okay, but first of all, I really want to say thank you for you two having given the shout out about going to the cinema. Yes. It's a shared experience. And hello, Matt. If you don't watch it more than four times, I'm

okay, I know. Hey, lady, step aside. Okay. He is going to say to Brad out of my way come on if anyone can do it it is you okay absolutely 100 movie this one is unique it's different right right it is like the primal way of our ancestors where you sit under the stars and you have great storytelling you have to see it in the cinema because that's when you devote yourself to that magic of filmmaking yeah yeah and it's like you don't want to go on a roller coaster ride by yourself no never this is like the most incredible roller coaster ride that you're gonna have in the cinema and you're doing it you have to do it with people you have to do it with your friends your family and strangers and the most

important thing is like having conversations afterwards oh yeah on all the different issues whether it's the mother and daughter, the father and daughter, the husband and wife, just a relationship. Look at the two antagonists. The Jamie Lee Curtis. The, you know, the audit, the tax auditor, who is like, you think the scariest person, but who is a real human being. Yes. Right. And you meet, and you don't want to be left out of the conversation, do you?

When everybody is like, have you seen this movie? Do you know what we're talking about? And God forbid, you're like, no. It is that, though. It is a cultural moment. And I really do believe that this movie is going to be something that as more people see it, as more people talk about, it is going to become a cultural conversation because it's unlike anything. It's unlike anything. It is. a cultural conversation because it's unlike anything it's unlike anything it is the daniels

are just i call them my evil geniuses because they had the audacity the courage to put it all on paper you know it's like five genres of film in in one movie true right and right they took a very ordinary totally unsuccessful immigrant asian aging woman immigrant who is trying to pursue the american dream with the love of her life came here to the complete disagreement and disapproval of her parents especially of her horrible father i'm sorry to say that it's almost like a vicious circle it's like that's how you are you you understand that your parents want the best for you they tell you what to do and you should do that and god forbid you disobey them and it's like when she sees her daughter that is the one of the core of the movies

is this mother-daughter relationship and you're right stephanie and i found the bond we didn't we didn't have you have We are an independent film I only arrived in January We had 8 weeks to shoot this 8 weeks? And 37 days Wow There is a union, we can work constantly

24-7 So we But every character From Stephanie, myself, Kee Kwan, Jamie Curtis, James Hong, especially the Daniels, every character was completely invested and knew who they were.

I saw, I've seen this woman on this, we've passed by this Evelyn Wong. Yes, yes. When we go to the supermarket or when we are, if we're in Chinatown we see the mothers the aunties the grandmothers where they are weighed down by the responsibility of keeping the family together keeping a business alive you know doing what is right and helping the family survive and she you know she doesn't walk straight she literally waddles her way through right she is

wading through all these like problems and things what is the american dream it is tough it is so so tough but the daniels have given her such a strong voice to highlight and to tell her story and give her an opportunity to be a superhero. Because at the end of the day, we believe in love. We believe in our family and we will never give up on that. And that journey needed to be told in this way. This is something I've observed. And I don't know if this is what maybe jumped out at you when you first read the script but I feel like in your career you've portrayed power in such a in such a wonderful way through so many ranges of through such a wide range of things whether it's you know Eleanor Young or you know Star Trek with uh you know Philip George yeah yeah but it's like I mean you know I or or even in in tomorrow never dies like i feel like the

michelle yo in her roles up to this point has been about portraying a woman in power which is wonderful but this is someone you look at evelyn and this is someone who is vulnerable at every level socially economically emotionally physically did you recognize that to be something unique and different immediately because you're right like this is a woman we've passed on the street who's basically invisible to a lot of people like how how did you dive into that vulnerability that's a great question thank you for that you know it's it's very i think at the beginning of my career to show because we were all the Mingvas the Asian woman is like the fragile you know needs to be carefully catered to and all those kind of like whatever

the very stereotypical indication of what it is to be an Asian woman and for me it was very important to be like no no no we're not, no, we're not that. We are the mother. We are strong. We're independent. We are in control of our lives. And it's a choice to portray and give a voice to that because we cannot be seen as the victims only. But with Evelyn Wong, she's not a victim. No.

She is trying to be the strong, the successful and all that. But life has beaten her down in every turn of the way. And that's the reality that's around us. It's not that everybody gets to be successful, even though they give it their 100 and 200%, right? Unfortunately, that's the reality of life. But to be able to say, yes, she is a failure at so many things that she does, but every failure becomes, it's an impact on our lives. And we have to learn from that and be stronger with that. And I think for Evelyn Wong if she was not open to be always trying to be better or do something she would not be able to go into these multiverses and tap into that

and have an open mind and I think that was what that really attracted yes because we are all flawed characters we are all flawed human beings And in the beginning of my career, playing the strong, you know, more and more dynamic characters were important because it empowers you to believe that you can do this. And now it comes to a stage where it's like, I want to give the people who are not seen, right, the chance to have a voice and say, they can have a different life too. And the Daniels have given us a perfect opportunity to say, well, guess what? In a science fiction world, we can, you know, because you're going to be able to go into all these kinds of worlds and see what could have happened. But what do you choose?

That's very important. That is, I think, and I'm actually emotional even thinking about this. But what moved me so much about the film was the message of choosing each other. And, you know, even in seeing the vast possibility in choosing the love in your life

and in noticing the things in your life that have actually given you the strength that you didn't know because even though evelyn acquires skills she uh and she's able to tap into these different universes it is her the whole time and she is the soul that we're with and when and she is the person at the end of the film who makes the decision that she makes and i cannot remember being more moved than um towards the end of the film when there is a specific montage with key's character and you are and i just want to say michelle like there is so much power in the way that you receive that you are outstanding in this movie i mean it is an outstanding i will say it oscar worthy performance

i know it's whatever but this is the kind of thing where i just don't think there is another person in the world that could do this and when i tell you how moved i was it had so much to do with key's performance but also the way you received that and you can see the character realizing so much about her life her reality and what she wants in that moment so just that message i think is so important you know in showing the beauty and the love in a life that's big, but also a life that feels quote unquote small. And so I just, I,

was that something that jumped out to you in the script and made, maybe made you say like, absolutely, this is it. Oh my God. Now you're making me emotional. I just, I'm so moved by the movie.

No, I think what it is, it's like, cause when you read it, it resonates, you know like you say with the husband and wife relationship any relationship is continuous work yes and sometimes we get sideswept bogged down by the things problems and all those kind of things and we start looking at the the other person like why couldn't you be better at this

but then we forget why did you fall in love with this person how to change him right you love him because he's a little dorky he knows how to find like joy and beauty in the most horrible places and he's trying to instill happiness and that was why you loved him in the first place and you were ready to you abandon your family your your parents to go in search of a new life because you love this man and i think sometimes we get lost along the way and i think what happened was like it didn't hit her until when she saw the divorce papers. They were like, what the F are you talking about? Yeah, losing it became real. And then it was, yeah. Right.

But that was his point. It was like, I don't really want a divorce, but I think this will force you to stop. Because it happened to somebody else. It stopped them to think it's like, do you really value this relationship? And if you have lost complete respect and for the man or the woman and the relationship then yes maybe it's time to step away because you don't want to hate each other because it's a very fine line but if there is real love then you have to fight for it you have to fight for each other and you have to continue to do that. I think where the Daniels were very, very clever when they wrote this is the emotional thread

between each character with the characters. Even like the simple, you know, when Jobu Tupaki and Stephanie comes out with all these like amazing costumes. She looks incredible. She looks incredible, but I looked into her eyes and I see the longing of i'm looking for my mother yes i'm not you know i even though my mouth says nothing matters your eyes don't say that and that is what i see from from that what bonds us together because that's what evelyn is seeing

right it's like you know how sometimes children, they say the worst things. They're like, I wish you're dead or you're blah, blah, blah. Or sometimes parents say it too. Because I wish I never had you. Don't be so ridiculous, okay? But you say things you think to hurt each other because you want them to feel the hurt you are feeling. And then you just take like silly things at each other but that's where you know when you are working with someone like key and stephanie who we look at each other and we see

love and we know this is where we have to go because if you don't believe that you love me nobody else is going to you know your eyes are as an actor the eyes are the windows to someone's soul yes and i believed in evelyn long as stephanie believed in joy and tupac so you know when we walk into in that even though she's like flinging those adult toys around yes what the hell and that's where the geniuses of the daniels are they put you in the most unapologetic raunchiness silliness or whatever because you are thrown off balance your head is getting like messed up like evelyn walk right and then they pull the rug from under you and they watch you fall going evil genius evil genius but. Evil genius. Evil genius. But this is something, this is like the opposite

end of what you've always said that, you know, martial arts scenes are, which is, there's always drama and emotional stakes to any fight scene you've done. And even with, even between these characters, even though there are all these insane visuals going on, there's still that dramatic core,

that thread between these two characters that, like, makes you... You can't take your eyes off it because you understand what's going on on some... Emotional... Different level. That is the emotional curve for these two women. They're fighting. You know,

it's like with Jobu Tupaki. She thinks she's trying to kill this woman that's her mother, right? But she isn't. She's testing her to the limits. It's how much do you actually want me? Right? It's like our children test us all the time.

From the minute they know how to crawl, they test you. Yeah. Right? That's what we do. And we do that with our friends. We do that with the people that we do that with our friends we do that with our the people that we love right you don't do that to people that you don't know because it's a waste of time right but you you test your limits you test each other's limits constantly but does that mean that you don't

you love that person that's why you are testing the boundaries that's why you're you know how much more than i can i achieve from this and even with the the fight sequences with like the lay brothers you know with the mud plums and all this kind of thing yeah yeah it's all about survival it's all about that and what i loved right at the end you know when i was doing it was like i opened my arms and i fight yes love for love at first i was like what the hell are you two boys trying to do it's like how do you fight for love. For love. At first I was like, what the hell are you two boys trying to do? It's like, how do you fight for love? That's a very interesting thing.

How do you say, I'm going to now not fight you with the physical, like, you know, you're coming at me with knives and bombs, you know, the whole staircase. Yes, the sequence at the end. The other alphas,

it's like they are ready to kill me and ready to kill Evelyn Wong and she has the google eyes and she suddenly realized all the googly eyes it's all about

love and joy and this but how do you present to them it's like I'm not gonna fight you with my fist I'm gonna embrace you

and fight you with love so we were standing there going like how do you do that how do you present that like well I guess i would just go i love you right mama this fall on bravo it's time to turn up think you've seen it all i don't think you've been a good friend to me lately we're friends like that who needs enemies you ain't seen nothing yet cheers to being Germanic.

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And below deck sailing out. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.

His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban,

I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski.

Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them.

And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes, dude. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are.

Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw

interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger.

I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault, but mine, I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. This is something, you know,

we are in the industry, so we know this, but these films are shot out of sequence. Oh, I believe you. And so that must be a real mind F for you to sort of like, you know, have the script and you're reading the script and then you get a shoot schedule. And that is something that is also really impressive

about your performance, is it all feels extremely specific emotionally and continuous, which has to be incredibly difficult because you could be shooting one scene that leads into another at the end of the shoot, the beginning of the shoot. So what was your process for keeping that line? I am going to post on my instagram very soon my script oh how i

normally work a script it's like i tag you know when you get your script and i tag them which are the scenes i'm appearing in if it was an action sequence they get a red tag if it was a very heavy dramatic one it gets like a blue so you know you work it out and then because you have to see as the character you see the entirety of this the script right and that will tell you the emotional arc of where you're going or whatever it is i think one movie that i had was as challenging but not quite as this was Lady, where it spanned like 20 years of her life. Oh, sure. And like you say, we don't do it...

In order. In order. You never do. I mean, for so many reasons. So you have to know that if you go into the 80s or then the 2000s, what is the mindset? Where are you going from your hair, your wardrobe or whatever that helps you recreate this moment? But with everything everywhere all at once, it is everything everywhere all at once.

You're such an Ibachi chef. Then you're like, well, what? Okay, I'm like back to this universe. And then I'm jumping into the jail. What do I want? universe and then i'm jumping into the jail what about you know you but when you see how i have tagged i am in literally every scene of them yes oh yeah emotional art goes work go sideways up and down and everything everywhere all at once you say it really is insane and the the amazing thing is like even though she goes into the other multiverse evelyn is still evelyn wong right she she sees what this multiverse is about she doesn't live that

multiverse it's not like he his character wayman when he is can travel right but in that universe he is who he is like the ceo He doesn't know about the other universes. So he is very contained with who Raymond is in that universe. But with her, it's like she sees this as like, why am I here? And can you imagine when she went into the hot dog universe? Right, right. Nightmare antagonist Jamie Lee Curtis, who is Deirdre de's deirdre whatever her name is like yeah deirdre bobeard bobeard i think it's her last name and she is suddenly her lover and coming

at her with these like hot dog fingers and wanting to hug her and kiss her like don't touch me you know and that was the amazing thing about the whole thing. It's like, first, you have to know your script. I am like Stephanie. She is brilliant with ad-libbing. And, you know, she is quick to change and do something. Extremely funny. She's right off the skin. She always has been.

And I say to her, don't do that to me, okay? I'm not going to make up lies. We have to. There are certain guidelines that we're going to do this absolutely I'm sure she listened she got the point so then it's like when you get into all these things

one thing I always say to my dinos you are my you are my anchors because we are going to be jumping from here to there, all these kinds of times. I'm going to look to you and say, okay, are we pasta? Are we rock? Are we whatever? Because it's intercutting the whole time. Yeah. The two geniuses know exactly where they're going with Lockheed, our DP.

And I think at the end of the day with Paul, our editor. Oh, my God. They had it down to the T. Like the action sequences. We don't have much time to shoot it, right? We have like a day and a half or two days maximum for the entire sequence of, you know, the thing and the dad and the butt plugs and all those kind of things. They have to know what they need. And if they don't have time, they can get a little bit more.

But they first have to shoot what they need. I can't believe from like an art direction and set decoration standpoint that this was shot in eight weeks. That is crazy. That must have been like stepping into a completely different film every day yeah exactly i think what grounded us was the irs building ah we were very fortunate you know when you're you're an indie film you have to be creative you have to know where you can save the money and you know put it right where you need to spend it. And so with this abandoned IRS building, it grounded us because we shot six weeks there. Yeah.

Oh, really? We could go around this place, you could build little sets and things like that in there. So we had a place to go to, which we were familiar with. I mean, it was a huge place, but it helped us. To sort of have it centralized in some way. And I heard this great

story from Ki-Hwa having his dressing room next to Jamie Lee's, but Jamie Lee never being there. And then he finally was like, why aren't you ever in your dressing room? And she was like, even with her career that spans decades, she goes, I never learn anything in the dressing room. I always learn everything

while I'm on set. She's amazing she is she's an amazing talent like she's not just an amazing actress she's an amazing human being yeah thoughtful she's generous she's always giving and she's always learning and that's what we all need to do is that you wake up in the morning and not think i know everything so why don't you just go back to sleep there right the whole process of being alive is about learning and experiencing and being there and jamie is going it's it wants to direct her own movie she should oh wow she will you know that she will i mean she has children's books she has her own podcast she has so many things she's ever ever inventing and creating and things like that so the next step for her is to tell her

own story or direct her own film right absolutely right he's right what is she going to learn sitting in the you know if she has she's and she's always out there because she loves people yeah always watching and this sometimes it's not fun it's like the legendary jamie is watching your performance like why don't you just go back have a cup of coffee yeah i know right take a break jamie chill out oh but our friend tally metal plays Stephanie's growth. Oh, my God. She's so wonderful in this. Bravo. Oh, my God. So bravo. She really, that relationship, she has very, very little lines, but it's not how much screen time you have.

It's what you do. Impact. And you have that. 100%. And she has such a beautiful presence. She does. That expressive eyes and face. She doesn't have to say a word, but you can, you know,

so that's why it works. It was so well cast in that way. She gave that brilliant performance. She was saying that you were so, so kind to her. You were so just curious about her life. You made her feel so at ease. And I just, I read that. She posted this to her Instagram and I just got so emotional. I wasn't surprised that you were gracious, but I was like, I mean, yeah, like you're the star,

you're setting the tone and the environment for that kind of project that is so ambitious. And I don't know. I just think that's so special that you and jamie lee and kihoi kwan just being like these three people who have seen various sides to this business all coming together kind of like handing it down to another generation of people no um not handing it down not handing it down sharing sharing i'm sorry yes sharing you know like but but teaching it not yet not yet not yet i'm so sorry but teaching it in a way you know like i i you know i don't think i am good enough oh we we don't try to teach we try to share and i think what it is is like when you see someone

young and talented you have to tell them that they are talented. But making them understand, don't just take it for granted. Don't think I'm entitled. There is no entitlement. We have been in the business so long, and you look at us and say, oh, God, you guys are successful, legendary, la, la, la, la. But every day, we learn. We find things to learn. We don't just sit back and go, well, you know, bow down to it.

No. And I want them to already begin the incredible journey. Understanding is like, as long as you are grounded, you will fly to a lot of places, but you will always feel the earth. But can you imagine if you fly and you don't know where to land it's a long way down yeah you don't want that yeah and it's it's interesting to hear you acknowledge um you know people coming to you with this this verbiage of legend like you know and even the movie is aware of that because when when you need to acquire the skill of martial arts you know there's a funny montage that cuts to essentially b-roll of your

life and it doesn't form that but i wonder like what has it been that has kept you grounded and kept that mind mindset i mean you've worked with some incredible legendary people. I was looking at the list of directors you've worked with. I mean, Ang Lee, Rob Marshall, you know, upcoming James Cameron. I mean,

like, and I'm going to be asking about that, but I, I just, I bet. I'm sure I can ask and you will give me nothing. The snipers are on you right now. But is, is it that that is it the people you've

worked with that have kept that instilled in you what has what has anchored you my family and friends my real friends you know it's like um i remember at the beginning very start and someone says you have to remember every time don't let every flash bulb like make you go always appreciate your your opportunities that you are given love what you do because the day that you don't love to do it that means maybe it's time to find move on to something else that you find joy in and yes when you meet it's very interesting the more successful they really are the more grounded they are yeah they are not taken back by the bs of you know glitz and whatever it is yes we love that you know when we walk down the red carpet and all this because this is part and parcel of the allure yeah the magic sure the movies or you know tv

and that gives our audience our fans that ah isn't that great yes it's part of the whole thing i mean you don't really want to see your stars coming out in their sweatpants and go like, yeah, whatever, you know, right? The glam factor. Yeah. Yes. And for a night or two to dress up and have fun and you know, look fabulous. Why not? It's, it's not it's fun. But do I want to do it every night? No, absolutely not. But I think what it is is like your real friends your family and some a lot of times you make real friends in this world as well right they ground you because they remind you who you are you're not some character in a movie or a tv series you are who you are and you should never ever forget that that and be present, you know, appreciate what you have. That's the thing that really grounds me.

Wow. Thank you. I mean, just going back to your script being tagged in all these ways. I mean, how did you develop the sense of, for lack of a better word, I'm using this word again, development? Like, because I feel like it's always so finely tuned that you always match the tone of the project. But then this is just so... To go from Wild West Hong Kong,

beginning of Hong Kong cinema days where no scripts, you just go in, they tell you what to say on the day, and then you do it. Where you don't have to think about it on those macro conceptual terms but now you i'm hearing you talk i could hear you talk forever about the way you prepared for this role like what what was the process like for what was your journey like to sort of get that instinct it's learning along the way it's like from no squids

and learning to shoot from the hip like okay whatever is thrown at me i mean when we started we don't have time for rehearsals we have no rehearsals you get there you get on the set you're all dressed in your uh your costume and they will choreograph the action sequence you learn it you shoot it and you do something else and like you say sometimes the lines are not given and you're going like one two three four five six seven eight nine ten oh yeah many of many times and then finally when you see the final cut of new oh that is what's going on in that yeah because they edit and they film so fast i mean for the longest of time even jackie chan we didn't have we didn't use we didn't dub our own movies right

right somebody else did it for us yes it was only from when I did the Song Sisters that was the first time

I actually it was since it was recorded right on the set prior to that never

because you know the we didn't have that kind of technology. It wasn't done. And it was much faster, easier after they edit and get someone to do it. As, you know, simultaneous while we're filming, the editing is there. Someone is recording it.

So that process didn't really come into play because there was none of that. Time for it. Yeah, yeah. But what you did learn was that you watched and you listened and it was like how these i was very fortunate to work with some of the best actors in hong kong as well so i watched how they did it it was like i was fascinated how the hell do you cry on like yeah so what do you do where is that coming from yes right and i think that's the time when you're young and you have to be like i am a ding dong i have no i am i am learning and if i am so proud

and say well then you look nothing i would go to like genie yip and say please teach me wow and you know then you work with like jangwon or you know all the the amazing maggie chung and yeah oh my god we were best friends but you know i'm not afraid to ask my best friend i have no clue what i'm doing okay maybe i can do martial arts better than you but when it comes to the performances you guys and maggie is like an award-winning actress yeah it's to have a conversation with her and like so tell me how do you do this but i must say it's also the the the director starting with you know with uh tomorrow that never dies really was my first international sure and we have a bond girl in the Zoom, everyone. Okay, have some respect here.

This is our first Bond girl ever on Las Culturistas. It's a huge moment. And I remember Roger Spottiswood turning to me and he says, you know, I can double you when it comes to the action. We don't need a martial artist or whatever it is. You are here because you demonstrated in your auditions that you can carry the role of playing wayland you don't need us someone who can fight we because i can't double you when it comes to the emotion yeah emotional side right so that's where you learn that how you have to be invested in the

character and every director gives you something ang taught me tremendously about giving the the the character a full background yeah that's very clear when you we watched the film again last night crouching tiger in preparation for this and even when you first come in and you see chow yon fat for the first time there is so much history on your face oh my god and it is very lived in he's obviously an incredible director yes no surprises because i've had the privilege of working with like danny boyle like rob marshall and all these kind of people they it's a learning process but if you are ding dong enough not to open your heart and mind to that then you've lost great opportunities to learn and so you know you gather all these kind of things and you learn how important the script is how important the

director is how important your co-stars are are because you know that making a movie or a TV series is not a one person thing. It's true collaboration on all the different levels and all the people behind the scenes. Yes. You know, the crew, whether it's the gaffer, the DP, you know,

the set designer, the costume designer, your hair and makeup, they help. They're the accessories that make this character that help you build this character and make her real make her really really like you say have a life and yeah and i i just because i know you're not going to be able to tell us anything about the plot of the avatar sequels which you are and this is this is the

question i will ask you what did you learn working with james cameron on these films if that's something you can answer he's a freaking genius yeah he is so creative he multitasked like madness he wow he's a writer he's the creator he dreams of all these universes that we can't even begin to factor i okay the one thing i said to him can't you turn me blue i don't want to like oh please so i also learned that he is also very resolute in his decisions yeah he seems to be a capital d director yeah you know what it is you have to be yeah that's how you have to be it's how you lead it's a discipline yeah it is it's a determination the discipline you know the do you have to be the doer you have to be the one that says yes no i imagine i have to visualize this i have to fight

for what i believe in and it starts with the director like here in the daniels cases with them so oh my god before but before i forget you mentioning maggie chung i just i i just think it's incredible it's it's an incredible everything all everywhere all at once it's incredible for movie lovers just because you you you can't believe you're watching like snippets of a wonk harwai film like you doing maggie chung you know and keith doing doing- And Kihue doing Tony Leung. I was gonna say, Kihue's doing Tony Leung, like it's just so incredible. And I just think, back to you and this movie,

like for any actor, this would be so, so, so, it's steeping yourself in so much work on a technical level. Masterclass. You know, obviously, it's just a masterclass. So, Michelle, just congratulations. It's gonna be amazing. You ain't seen nothing yet. Here's to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in?

It's going to be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset.

Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer. And the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble.

I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life.

I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.

Looked like a little angel. I mean, he looks so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation.

Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks?

We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just going to sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards.

We got freaks. Or dudes dude. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak?

Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We do do a thing on the podcast where we brought this up to you at the top, and I know you can answer it we asked the question what was the culture that made you say culture was for you

and i just want to know what was it when you can think back to your childhood or maybe when you were you know a teenager how did you decide to go along this path of becoming you like what was that thing you saw or received from the universe that made you say i'm gonna do this uh okay as a child i think i was very open to the world of music dance and my mom used to say you know you could dance before you walked and so but i think one i never dreamt that i would be an actress i did not have that dream i was always like the ballet so watching ballets and you know seeing these ethereal creatures on the stage but one thing that always fascinated me was the cinema my mom was an avid cinema goer so even as a small child we would go as a family

to watch all these like whether it was indian movies comedies love stories dracula you imagine and my dad was like the nature lover so documentaries tarzan ben-hur but that that feeling of the magic of cinema sitting there. And I still see myself, you know, like, wow. Gazing in wonder. Watching like The Sound of Music, Wizard of Oz. It was like all the things that I love into that. But I did not understand at that point the magic of cinema, you know, telling a story through cinema.

It was just enjoying it and taking in that whole experience. Did it lead me to this? I think when I was given the opportunity to join it, when I went to Hong Kong to do the commercial, the watch commercial with Jackie Chan, and I was given the opportunity to partake in this world. And you go like, oh my God, I remember the magic of it. Maybe I can be part of that. Maybe that was the culture thing that drew me in.

And I had to say. It sounds like it was. Yeah. Right. So I said, yes. And today I still recognize that as a fact. And I think when we went to watch Everything Everywhere all at once in South by Southwest, and you know with our industry on how it's been you know touch and go and opening up more like streaming and different platforms for uh creative people which is good and sometimes you will please don't just rush into it and turn it

all out because right good things just take time and time is something that we feel that we're always like, oh, come on, come on, I need more of. But sitting in that cinema and watching not just our love on there, but sharing that experience, yeah. With everybody. Yeah. When you hear them laugh and you go, they actually find me funny. You were like, ah's funny you were so funny and you were talking about how um it's that communal

experience the first time i saw it i did go by myself but it was in a packed theater and during the end of the movie i truly cried during the last 30 minutes and i looked over at the guy next to me and we were having the same experience. And it was really fun because even though I didn't know him, it was that community. Connection, right? It was community and connection and I don't know anything about him.

I don't know anything about his life. I don't know anything about the woman he was sitting next to. But we knew that we were receiving the same messages and we were internalizing them and maybe it meant something different to him when he was thinking about his relationships in relation to the movie than it was for me, but we were both moved. And when I went back with my friends last night, it was the

same situation where I was just excited to share it. And so I would say to everyone listening, if you've been hesitant about going to the movies, now is the time. Put the mask on if it's going to make you feel better. Go. I mean, it's just, it's a movie that, especially, you know, in the sequences where your reality is breaking

and they have those incredible montages and kudos to the editor. Just watching that in the theater, it was breathtaking. It was just simply breathtaking nicely put well done and with our last five minutes with you we are going to do i don't think so honey so this michelle is our one minute segment on lost culture east that's this very podcast where we take something in pop culture or in our lives that are bothering us and we do a

rant for one minute about it using the phrase, I don't think so, honey. Who's making the demonstration first? You're going to get two. One from Matt, one from me, and then you'll be all set to go. So for now, let's have Matt Rogers go. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey

as time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Stephanie Shue as a texter. Girl, it takes you a day to get back to me. And I know you can text your old girl from college back sooner than that. And I know you're on a worldwide press tour, mama.

I know all of a sudden we're at international film store suddenly and about to pop all the way off into another stratosphere. But you can text me back because you, listen,

we have a soul connection, Stephanie Shue. Soul connection. I remember when you were Flourge as a sketch character in college. This is just for me and you right now and people in hammercats 30 seconds but i remember all the trips we took i've seen you get drunk on college campuses girl i have photos of you you do not want released so text me back within 18 hours let's say i'll give you a day text me back within 18 you always get back and it's always very warm and happy. Don't forget about Matt Rogers, me.

We used to have lunch in Downstein. We shared emotional connections. Stephanie Shue as a texter. I don't think so, honey. Stephanie Shue as a person. I do think so, honey. You're the most lovely person in the world and I can't wait to hug you and squeeze you.

We love you. That's one minute. This is crazy. I was like, how did you know that? Do that. Wow. Are we going gonna be the project that scares michelle yo after she's done so much the project that michelle yo walks away from i can see where you you guys definitely went to the same college right oh yeah just do improv two crazy rants just like that. I mean, you should see.

I mean, I think Stephanie Shu and I think I've been in more situations with Steph Shu and Bowen Yang than I can remember. But anyway, I love Steph. I just I want to be texted back. She's got a text back. She is very busy right now. She did text me back. She did text me back. And say, Stephanie, if you don't text him back god knows what the next rant is going to be about she has always been a flaky texter i will

say that some people are not good at texting are you a good texter michelle i am the worst the worst i've gotten worse yeah bowen has gotten way worse i'm sorry I'm sorry. Again, it's when they get famous, I'm telling you. No, no, no. We have other things to do. I'm not going to say important things to do, but... Other. Other. All right, Bowen Yang, are you ready to do your I Don't Think So Honey? I'm ready.

I'm ready. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, A Love Before Time by Coco Lee and the Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon movie, not winning Best Original Song at the Oscars in 2000. Wow. Can I tell you, can you guess which song won that year?

I bet you can. Was it 2000? It was 2000. It was Things Have Changed by Bob Dylan from Wonder Boys. No thanks. Who cares? All due respect to Bob Dylan. We love Bob Dylan on this podcast. But A Love Before Time is one of the most iconic Mandarin to english translations

international hits 30 seconds can you think of an international hit from that time like for a movie to cross over that way and for the song to be nominated for the oscar and to impact nations communities all around the world and to not receive its due is abominable to me 15 seconds song is auditory memory to me it It's sense memory to me when I think about Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon. I think about Michelle. I think about Chow Yun-Fat. I think about Zang Ziyi. I think about everybody, but that song deserves more. Five seconds. I can't believe we as a culture

have forgotten about A Love Before Time by Coco Lee. That's one minute. And that's one minute. Wow. Absolutely correct, Beau. Look at Michelle right now. She is floored. Michelle, you can do it. You can do it. I know there's something in pop culture

that grinds your gears. Can you bring me a bottle of whiskey, please? Yes, whatever helps. You do it for as long as you want. It won't be the full minute, but something that's on your mind, maybe. From this press tour, perhaps? Okay, you know what?

I think one thing that I would say is I don't think so, honey. You can't put your phone down and have dinner with your most adorable cuckoo and all of you are still on the freaking phone. What are you texting? Someone on the table that's next to you and you can't have a real conversation and when we go to the cinemas you freaking put your

phone down absolutely and don't try and receive messages in the middle of a movie when your lights are so bright and you're taking me away from this amazing movie called everything everywhere all at once and if you don't look at it and watch your phone for two seconds 30 seconds grip on what is happening so i don't think so honey that you can't put your phone down you have to put your phone down because you want to have a gorgeous dinner with your adorable godmother or auntie or whatever it is and you've got your phone down and if you're in the cinemas if i see you one more time i don't think so honey you're gonna the cinema, if I see you one more time, I don't think so, honey. You're going to get away with it because I'm

the slap the hell out of you. Five seconds. I'll eat you, okay? I love you. And that's one minute! Michelle, you really buried the lead on that one. You were great. That was perfect.

Oh my gosh. I did that. You know, the Alamo Drafthouse, where I saw the first time I saw Everything All At Once, I love, they really, they make it funny too. Like they're like,

seriously put the phone away. Seriously put the phone away. And you do. But it's crazy that we have to get to this point where we're like threatening the audience. Yeah. Because they really can't put the phone down. No, it's so crazy. And then they answer the phone.

It's like, yeah, I'm watching a movie. Okay. Yeah, I'm in the cinema. Okay, I'll call you back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm in the cinema watching a movie. You're like, what the hell? Yeah, I know. You're not watching the movie anymore if you're on the phone. Wow. This was so, so special.

Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us michelle we know you both of you and the movie is everything everywhere all at once and luckily for you it's now playing nationwide everyone lucky audiences everywhere um and you have to go you have to go and you you're gonna be moved by it you're gonna be surprised by it you will laugh scream cry feel all the emotions. And isn't that why we go? Yeah, it's the way we go.

Thank you so much, Michelle. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Matt. It was a real pleasure talking to both of you.

Thank you for taking the time. Oh my gosh, of course. Well, well, well, there was, um,

yeah, just really fantastic. I'm i won't i don't this is i won't get over this this is a highlight of my year highlight of my life you texted me right after cloud nine cloud nine cloud nine and um thank you for bearing with this structurally different kind of episode you know she this opportunity to talk to her came in a little last minute and we were like, yes, we've got to make it work no matter what. I mean, come on. I texted people like, you know,

producers at work. I was like, I need this hour blocked off. Yeah. It's a very important thing that I have to do. So please don't schedule anything around it. I've never pulled that before. I was like, you need to leave this open. So completely worth it, I think.

Yeah, this is amazing. And we only jumped on because we want to give the readers a full episode. You see, we jammed in the culture question. We jammed in I Don't Think So, Honey. And we're going to jam in the fact that we finish every episode with a song. Great.

I would still find my way by the light. I see in your eyes the world I know fades away. For Taya. It's an amazing song. I love that. For Taya. That was good.

Listen to it. It's like an R&B song mixed with a traditional Chinese gujang bop. It's such an underrated song. Bowen got quiet, Hans says, and I agree. He did get quiet. Really? My gain is off? Yeah, something happened.

I thought you did it on purpose. No, no. Did you touch the mic, Hans is saying? I don't think so. How's it now? Is it better? That's better, yeah. Okay, okay. I think you have to sing it again.

Really? It got quiet in the song? Very. Okay. And we're keeping this whole thing. You have to sing it again. I would still find my way by the light. By the light. See in your eyes.

The world I know fades away before time. Time. I butchered the last little melody, but there it is. I think it was one of the most stunning vocal performances of the, of the decade. I think Coco Lee, her name is Coco Lee. Can you think of a better pop star name?

I can't. And I know names like Camila Cabello. And I still think this name is better. Thank you. Well, goodbye. Bye. To hear the rest of that song,

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