Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "External Delights" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

Episode Date: July 30, 2025

The boys are BACK in so many ways. They're back from break, back from shooting the Culture Awards and, in Bowen's case, back from China! All of which is discussed, but also? So much more! This episode runs the gamut! Matt & Bowen talk about getting your last will and testament together, being too anxious to have a pet, how David Corenswet is perhaps America's hottest living man and the fact that Superman was really funny! Also, the boys say the name "Ghislaine" out loud once more and share how The Last Dab kicked their collective ass on Hot Ones. All this, childproof packaging on weed being too restrictive for dumb adults (Matt), Lababu AND Lafufu culture getting its talons into easily manipulated consumers (Bowen) and how THE CULTURE AWARDS ARE ON BRAVO AUGUST 5TH AND STREAMING THE NEXT DAY ON PEACOCK (Both)! Please watch, stream, and more. We love ya! The category is watch... or die... (better get that will prepared now!) xoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, goodness. Wow.

Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Just us today in person, tactile. Tactile. I mean, at this point, it's getting rarer and rarer for Mount Rodgers to be in New York City. He's playing sort of, you know, aloof with us. I'm playing both sides, as it were.

No, it's just that I'm getting, it takes so long to have an apartment be ready. Yes. This is one of the realities of just having a place that you want to furnish in your own way because this is going to be your home. Yeah. I mean, that's the plan is like, hopefully, like, September, October comes around and I'll have like a gorgeous little fall life that low-key is not as busy and stressful as our lives have been because we've been stretched then can I tell you today is technically and I guess not even technically anymore was like my first day off in a long time I

know and it feels great because you just got back from China so I left for China the day after we taped Culture Award which is crazy and we'll get to the culture awards because there's so much to say in preparation for it coming out on Bravo on the 5th and streaming the next day. Yes. On Peacock on the 6th. Much to say, but why don't you tell everybody about your trip? The headline is it was so fun and it had been almost a decade since I was back. I used to go all the time as a kid.

We would go basically every other year in the summer and I would spend like six weeks there. And that was back when time was just a little bit more available to everybody. like in the family and um you know now everyone's grown up and you know yang has a family uh i have my working life which is you know kind of packed the gills and i'm very fortunate about that but um i'm also realizing like oh wow like most of my summer i mean we're already in august and like most of our summer was all being put into one thing which i have no regrets about but i am like oh like That's where it all went. It was like a bigger, I mean, obviously, because it was a bigger version of the way we've done it,

it was a much bigger endeavor because, you know, pick behind the curtain. We kind of just look at the cultural awards when we do it live, like a couple weeks before and we just reach out to friends who are available in our sourcing videos. But this, I don't know if you guys have seen like the content online about who was at the awards, but this was a much, much, much different story in terms of production and getting it together. and luckily we did absolutely crush and we ate Tor and more but again getting to that in a second

like more highlights from the trip like I feel like you posted some of the most beautiful photos I've ever seen oh my god a girl well that's my Rico GR3X shout out that is that the camera that's the camera yeah really good that anyone can use oh yeah are you telling the readers oh but what do you mean

that anyone can use like anyone can borrow your camera or you mean it's the ease of use and the ease of use is what I'm saying it's idiot proof it's idiot if I can take a pretty picture with it then you can you know what I mean yeah yeah no it was so beautiful and we there's this ritual in in Chinese culture

of sweeping the tomb quote unquote sweeping the tomb it's yeah sawmu and it's you go and you basically like clean and you maintain, like, the burial side or the grave or, you know, whatever. And so my grandparents are buried all the way out in the, like, ancestral burial grounds of, like, the Yang family. Wow. And this is, like, generations of farmers and people whose worlds are both expansive

and that they literally live in, like, the famed grassy fields of Inner Mongolia, like they are like the pride of China like these are truly like cinematic panoramic Windows XP yeah coded

screen saver vibes like they're gorgeous and yeah like multiple many generations of Yang families there's like a lot of bodies is there a plot for you there is not really a plot for me and I think well then they've lost the plot

bury my girl somewhere great I want bury my girl at Screamsaver coated atmospheres bury my heart at wounded knee now now now but no

I think my dad so my dad my parents are both like I think we think we want to we'll be cremated and we'll be like buried in the States

or like we'll spread their ashes somewhere when you know if that if it comes to that oh wow so you're gonna you're gonna be spreading girl

are we at the age now where we have to like write our wills out I thought about it I thought about it I thought about it I definitely thought of it on this trip, and I turned to my mom.

I was like, my parents have the rules done. And, like, I remember a few years ago, like, Yang and I had to sort of, like, look at the wills. Yeah, I think I remember you told me this. And it was just, it was totally normal thing. It was just like, shit. This is, like, a thing that, I mean, I'm lucky that I haven't had to, like,

my thing is, like, I haven't dealt with a huge, profound grief in my life. Yeah, I think about this a lot. And when the time comes, like, I really don't know. know how it will be transformative, no doubt. I am kind of like, what am I going to be? I think about this. I mean, it's one of the reasons I don't get a dog. Oh, honestly like I.

We have to talk about the dogs. Okay, but we will talk about the dogs because this has become a real narrative. And it is. If you and I both got, not to skip ahead, but if you and I both got dogs. I don't think, I think you are ready for it and set up for it in a way that I am not. But you're in the process of getting set up for it. I'm in the process of getting set up as a home for myself. I don't know.

So this is honestly my issue. And it has to do with the thing about you just said about grief too, is it's like I think all the time about how, and I hate even putting this energy out there, but I have thought about my will recently. I don't know. I was one who brought it up, but yeah, go. Yeah, but like I was thinking about it as recently as yesterday.

So it's funny that you say that. And I don't know if that's having to do with, you know, just getting older or just to be transparent, having more money now that I would want to go to my sister. You know what I mean? I also don't know and I don't deny that it has something to do with the fact that like shit is dark. You know what I mean? Like yesterday we were taping Colbert and there was a shooting right around the corner. And, you know, like to say nothing of like the rest of the state of the world, which, you know, let's leave that there for now.

But regardless, like, I get so overwhelmed by things that have nothing comparable in terms of stakes with death and real things. Like, if I got a dog, I genuinely feel like if it coughs weird, if it's sick, if I'm going to lose my shit. Like, I think it's why I can't have children. It's not because it's a selfish decision. I simply think, like, I might care too much. And that sounds like a backhanded compliment. It's, I promise you it's not. I think it's pathetic of me.

No, no. I mean, like, even just like, just, I'm having, like, a journey this year. And I think last year, too, just, like, really examining my anxiety and how out of control it can get. And, you know, I don't think I'm equipped emotionally to care for something at this time that much. Like, that's really where I'm at. Like, when you talk about, like, not being able to handle a grief, like, I wouldn't

be able to handle it at all. I have a deep fear of what happens when that happens. Is your anxiety a fixed point to you? Like, do you feel like you can change it? You know, it's like a lot of times like these things are also superpowers for you. You know what I mean? It's like I feel like my anxiety, like it's been something that makes me overprepared. I think it makes me something that jumps into action.

I think it makes me something that's very makes me somebody who's very generative in terms of ideas. and, you know, very equipped for what we do, you know what I mean, in terms of being entertainers and doing what we do. But I will say, like, there is another side to it, like a darker side to it that really comes at my expense. And I'm going to start engaging with my psychiatrist again about potentially figuring something out.

Yeah. Because I've really, you know, just transparently, like I'm so proud of what we did with the, culture awards. So proud. But it took me a second to calm down. Like, during the process, like, I was very, like, and we had an amazing team helping us, as you know, like, and you're going to see the results. But like, I was nervous. Well, you were nervous within the boundary of yourself. You were like, am I going to be able to deliver on all of these ideas that we spent, like, you know, the last six weeks or so just like coming up with? Because, you know, it was also

a very disorienting thing for me where I was not used to, I'm used to just like shedding the skin of an idea, bringing an idea to conception within a week and then just like letting it go. Right. Like I've had so many reps of that and I realized that like I was very specially equipped for that process in terms of scaling it up for the culture awards and I feel like, but I still feel like I was kind of out of my depth by the end. I was like, oh, this is a lot. It was a lot.

And you and I both have very different responses to. to that kind of overwhelm. And so, sorry, and just, just, just, let's keep talking about your response. No, no, no, no. I just mean like, I have an anxious response to stress. And it was, it's stressful. You know what honestly it was,

and you guys are gonna see this in the show. So there is, um, we do a big opening. Yes. And, um, does it still read as big? Cause I have not seen the edit still. Does it read as big on camera? Okay, okay, cool. It is really good.

And I have to say like, we, We'll talk more specifically about what this is, and I understand we're dangling a carrot, but that is also fine because I, I and also Bowen, I'm sure, we really want you guys to tune in and tell everyone about this because it is, it is the cultural awards at like turned all the way up. And by the way, the shit that they let us get away with, I truly feel like we scammed our way into doing this because so much of the blue sky, which is like what they call the phase at the beginning of a creative process is in that show. So much of it. Very lucky. Shout out to NBC, Bravo and Peacock for really, and I do think it's a credit to you

and the foundation that you've created there just in terms of like how much they trust you and the vibes were so great and they let us do all this stuff. But just to speak about the thing that made me the most nervous, it is an opening number that is certainly an homage to someone in culture and I think that I don't love dancing I'm doing choreo and stuff I absolutely love singing as you guys all know

you're so good at it like I love it I feel confident doing it but when it comes to choreography especially iconic choreography or that which references iconic choreography I don't even need to be in front of everyone I've ever met and everyone I would

ever meet to be Be nervous. The audience was crazy. No, it's like the one thing that I didn't realize was going to happen, which, of course, it was going to, was the seat cards. Like, you know, so. Those are all your heroes and friends. Literally, the, but we're rehearsing in the space, like the number, doing the whole show, and they've got the seat cards on the seats, which is the headshots of everyone that's going to be in the audience. Yeah. And I was like, this is not normal.

No. This is not normal at all. But I will say, like, it happens to tend to be, I'll freak out, like, weeks and days before. And then the day of, I actually feel quite confident. And I will say, once we got through the number and we did it, well. During the show on the day. After that, I felt incredible. Yes, that's right. I could feel the shift.

I was just like, oh, my God, we did it. I did not. The hard part's over. I didn't, like, eat it in front of literally the world. Yes. And, again, like, I just, like, after that, and once the show started, and it was like our goofy Frankenstein nightmare, like, you know, award show happening, I was just like, wow, it's playing, it's going well, like, this bizarre Hollywood puzzle

slash chess game slash keys to the car we were given. Like, it was all panning out. Yeah. And then I was relaxing. I guess this is what I mean is it's like there's got to be a better way for me to treat myself in preparation for these things. I wouldn't beat yourself up too much about it because I think this is also something that you will develop a thicker skin and expectation and you'll just know. It's like your first time doing not for nothing one of the hardest things in entertain, which is to quote unquote host an award show, even though we're doing like, a funny, frivolous, parodied version of it, we still put it, like, our body and our mind can't

really tell the difference when we're up there. I'm talking about you and me when we're up there doing like what is still a kind of thinkless job. You know what I mean? We just had the extreme benefit and fortune of having our, our, our beautiful, wonderful, hilarious, clever, loving fans there. That's just the main difference. It's like, in the the room, it feels so much better than a stuffy award show where everyone is taking themselves all so seriously and their careers are on the line or whatever. It was like this crazy, well, Darcy Cardin, I think, said it best. We were backstage and she had come offstage doing her bit, which she does with Jill Kumbuster, which I cannot wait for you guys to see, but she came

back and she was like, it's like a UCB bit show. It's like a UCB bitch show. DCN, Delclose Marathon bitch show, yeah. And so for those of you who maybe don't really know what that is, it's like there was an whole era and it's not over but it's not like it was where when we were coming up in comedy in New York like you'd go to

I don't know UCBE East or wherever and it would just be like an hour or so of just whatever the show was everyone coming up and doing a four or five minutes stupid fucking bit

new character trying things out etc and this was like a version of that blown all the way out with like truly, and I can't say enough, like our heroes. Like, I mean, you've seen the carpet, so you know that some people are there. So it's not a spoiler for me to say that Kristen Wigg does the show, to say that Keenan is in the show, to 80 Bryant, you know.

And the list goes on and on. I don't want to cross into a place where I start to ruin it. But like, I just feel so lucky that people wanted to play with us and that we were a trust. to do that and so overjoyed that it came out as well as it did. Because it was a lot. Yes. It was like, yeah, I, because I got to say going to China right after the awards. I can't imagine.

It was like, it was both like good and not so good in terms of processing what that experience was because I didn't really impact it with anyone except I didn't get a chance to do that until last night when you and me and, and, uh, manager, Olivia, were together after Colbert. We were just like, I was like, oh, yeah, wow. And, like, just learning about the dynamic scene. And yes, we had an amazing team of people. Shout out to Laura Mandel, Jane Munn, the city green, Celesteon, Frank Gillespie, Olivia, REP, Lauren

Lemieux. Yeah, all of Lionsgate, which worked with us on the show. And, you know, also, you know, just. Katie Hawkmeyer. Truly, Jen Neal, thank you guys so much. And, and, like, I just. Jen Proctor, we love you. Oh, Jen Proctor, we love you, which would book the show for us.

like and honestly over 50 talent in the show which is which you know that number uh if that doesn't mean anything to you I felt like it was having 50 hosts yeah 50 S&L hosts in one in one night it was it was crazy it did feel like S&L 50 like kids a little like yeah like kids Bob version of SNL 50 junior yes yes yes is kind of the vibe it was giving I'll never forget like the I think it was that night someone had posted like a string out of everyone on the purple carpet uh-huh And I was just like, I can't believe that that happened. And, you know, lots of really fun, different personalities. How fun.

And truly, like, just the collision of, like, everyone on that carpet. And then getting, like, actual media coverage, which is also part of the joke and the bit of the whole thing. Like, watching someone serve on the Lost Culture Recess Culture Awards carpet is just so funny because what is happening? you're like, wait, why are you talking about that? But no, this is, we're not like, wait, huh? Like, we're being perceived? No, it's just, it's just funny because, again, and we say this in the show, spoiler, it's like, this started out as a bit.

Yeah. And so, thank you for being along for the journey and helping us sort of blow it out to this scale for now and who knows what will come of it in the future. And we never would have even. This is honestly something that, like, it wasn't even, like, when we started it and created it, like, oh, this is going to be something that we pitched one day. It was entirely because you all, like, expressed the desire to want to see it when you lined up at Lincoln Center and some of you got turned away because at the time we just didn't think there was any way that a surplus of people would come to see us live. You know what I mean? Like, but it was really because we wanted to bring this to you and share this thing that's become such a crucial part of the Lost Culture calendar.

year it just felt wrong to not do everything we could to bring it to everyone also because we're really proud of it in terms of like you know what it is doing and so you're exactly right after that first year where people were turned away we were like wait wait wait no yeah it doesn't feel right this needs to be literally broadcast and so um from that year on and that's why like there was no live stream the second year the third year we couldn't technically do it without weird like legal and clearance issues. And so then there were fan live streams from the audience,

which we were like unofficially like sanctioning and being like, this is okay. Hopefully it delights people externally and, you know, tune in. All we ever do, all we ever hope, really,

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with Sarah Spain on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Should we talk about some culture? Like, yeah, I'm, I think I'm, I must say I'm a little behind, or I'm playing catch up because I watched a lot of stuff on the plane because my internet was on the fritz in China. Let's tell us a little bit about what you watched. I watched a lot of movies for the first time that I feel like should be like,

should have been things. Let's talk about it. No, no, no. I don't want to. Why are you ashamed? I'm ashamed and I also like didn't, I still have to finish this movie that I was talking about last night.

You don't want to share? I don't want to share. Okay. So there is a, there's a classic film. Many would say one of the best of all time or whatever, you know, rubric that's based on, but it is pretty objectively called. that Bowen is talking about

and he'll finish the film and then we will talk about it and then we will talk about it and at which time I will reveal I also haven't seen it. Oh yes so I'm just saying you're not alone in this you have sisterhood we should see it together okay fine we should finish it together okay because this is a kind of like

calling back to the era of I had never seen Sound of Music you had never seen Jaws and now it's another movie that neither of us now it's a movie that neither of it is a movie on that level yes of course so so you've been watching a lot of films? Are you behind on the bravo of it all? I'm caught up on on Miami and OC. I'm also caught up on OC. I have not, I've not watched next gen NYC be on the first episode. It's not for me, I don't think.

All good. Um, rooting for everybody. We love everybody in the words of Mariah Carey. Everybody. Um, and I, uh, finished the pit on the plane home finally. What is your deal with the pit? I love it. Because I can't, you know, I can't do that. It's pretty gory. There's moments of, there's moments of, whoa, I can't believe there. I can't believe we're seeing this. Yeah. But it's excellent, excellent performances.

Noah Wiley, King. Noah Wiley being back. Oh, he doesn't wear scrubs in this, huh? He technically has scrubs and he like has a hoodie over it, Dr. Robbie. But it's just so wonderful. Oh, what a great, Dr. Robbie. What a, what a king. Dr. Robbie is his name.

Is his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dr. Robby. You are smiling. I love him. I love him. Have you ever told him this? No. Would you?

I'm sure. You know, today I'm a little anxious because it's when it comes to speaking about shooting your shot with celebrities. Yes. I haven't seen our Hot Ones versus. I think it's about to go up. Is it about to go up? I think it's going up today at some point. I know it's going up today at some point.

And you shoot a shot in there. One of the things was like shoot a shot in real time. Like one of the things was like, shoot your shot in real time with a celebrity. And then Bowen was like, Sebastian Stan. And I'm like, no, I don't want to eat a wing because they. They really were hot. Right. And I was like, I'm going to do this for real.

Oh, yeah. I admire you for that. And so I shot a shot that I've, that I've, I, I'm a crush of mine for, I don't know, a decade plus, 15 years. Yeah, yeah. Which was, which was Mr. Groff. Love. And the thing is like, that's bitter.

Me in the second row with my mouth open. No, just kidding. I want to be respectful. Splash down. Is. But no, I was really shy. Afterwards, I was like, oh, no. And I had already asked them to take some one thing out because I got a little carried away.

And I was like, yeah, I take that out. So I was like, I'm not going to go back and ask them to edit this out. But it's out there. That's okay. It's out there. It's okay to shoot your shot sometimes. Sometimes it is. And I was like, you know, and it could very well work.

The wings were really hot. They were very hot. Should we reveal what the next day was like? We were sick. I had a harder time doing versus. sort of GI-wise than I did regular hot ones. Do you want to know why? It's the last dab.

Because it was Last Dobb all the way around. Yes. So basically the way the Bat Show works is there's six wings in front of you that I guess are the six questions or rounds. And they're all Last Dab. Which is the 10th wing in the Hot One sequence. So it follows, it's two after Dabom, which is like a life ruiner. DeBomb is like, DeBomb is what is like scorches the earth. And last dab, it's like, it's a soft-ish landing.

It's still very intense. But the, like, I would rather have the progression than full last stab, full blast. Yeah, that's the thing is it was like, I was like, oh, I was even talking a shit at the top being like, this is not that bad. But there is a build. No, it adds up. And I felt not good the next day. Yeah, me neither. But I think you did better than I did.

In terms of how I felt? In terms of how you felt. I do think that, and if I might say, my stomach has a little. little more fortitude than yours. Yes. And I, first of all, I don't think so honey ever being like, um, Bowen's going to win. Yeah.

Like, don't talk about my friend like that. That is them just assuming that you are going to like be more poised in general. Right. I think that with love, y'all really assume I'm some sort of freak or a mess. And, um, no. I see you. I see you talking about me this way. I see what your opinions on me are.

You did come to my mind, um, when I was. I was eating crab in Dandong, which is a harbor town and known for their seafood. And I was trying to break this crab open and it was like, I, Matt would do this so, so well. Well, I'm a trained, so I'm sort of the Noah Wiley in the pit of crabs. You know what I mean? I sort of break him open, crack them open, go in the corner after I've worked really hard and saved lives out there. And I just sobbed to myself, get my Eminom. I wonder if 10 years ago I would have felt that way.

Because now it's like spicy foods, it's different. Roller coasters, it's different. Which really vulnerable for you to admit. Honestly, it's... You used to be a coaster queen. I'll just never forget who I used to be. She used to be mine. Like, I used to be that girl that was like, I just talked about this actually on, well, I don't even know if it's announced because I don't, so I shouldn't say, but a friend of ours, two friends of ours have a new podcast.

and we were talking about just doing roller coasters and being like a daredevil and stuff. Like when I was little, I used to like be the guy talked about this on this podcast and jumped out of a plane, et cetera. I do one or two roller coasters in a row now

and it's a full wrap biologically. Well, physically. To be fair, the last time you felt this was when we had to ride the Stardust Racers. Startus racers twice, two times within like five minutes. Right after we shot. Hot Ones.

Right after we shot. Oh, was that? Do you remember that? Oh, sure. I can't get the time one straight. I think it was literally, it was we had shot hot ones. Then the next day got on the plane to go down there and did the roller coasters or... Yes, that's what it was.

Yeah. We shot Hot Ones a while again. Yes, they really banked that episode. And I was like, when is this going to come out? And now it's obviously come out at the perfect time. Right, right. But, like, that, that week, that like that week, that, like, that like, that was going to come out. week, that like week and a half when we were flying down doing the roller coasters and then doing

a hot ones in the same week, that was, that was a test of the stomach. And I think I had to, I went to Wicked after, after, um, Stardust, after Epic Universe. You went to Wicked? Oh, I, oh, no, no, no, we can say, we can say, you did reshoots. We did reshoots. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, right, right, hold on. Let me, let me look this up. Okay, hot one. Yeah, look at the calendar. I'm almost positive that it was like, yeah, yep, May 19. Yeah, yeah. And that was two days after the SNL finale. Yep. Oh, yeah, I remember this.

And then we did, we went to Epic Universe and then I went to, oh my God, I went to London, England to do Rick and reshoot. No, sometimes you look back at your own schedule and you're like, what? I'm telling you, this is my first day off in months. And this is technically work, even though we do. don't think of it as work, especially these episodes. And by the way, I do think that we're going to make a conscious effort to just be us for a while.

Like, I genuinely do feel like I'm going through some sort of new return to Saturn. Like, interesting. Because it's, is this a thing that I'm, talk to Channey, get you get someone to do another chart reading for you. Is, am I making it up that like there's something to like every seven years? I don't know. Because it feels like 35, 28, 21, 14, and 7 are like. are like times of awakening

like I feel like seven years old is when my honestly when my eyes opened up to like what culture was for me because of the Titanic of it all and like all that 14 was like certainly like I remember being that age and being like that was like eighth into ninth grade which was horrible and like you know another change

21 is obviously you're 21 so much things become available to you like etc like kind of like settling into my body as like a gay person 28 is obviously returned of Saturn, like, et cetera. And now I feel like at 35 again, I'm like looking at my life in a certain way and being like, okay, I've been in denial about this.

This makes me happy. This does not. This person has a belonging. This person no longer does. Like, I don't, are you in that place? Because obviously, you know, changes. Yes, I am certainly in that place. But I am also not 35, yeah.

well we're going to have a good birthday for you the verses is up the verses is up do we watch it no that's weird we'll watch it after we'll watch it after but okay well that's fun that's fun something to share on social which we absolutely love in 1920 a magazine article announced something incredible. Two young girls had photographed real fairies. But even more extraordinary

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Wait, but I did want to ask you, have you seen Superman yet? Yes. Oh my gosh. I loved that movie. So much fun. Brazant, I mean, I love Rachel. Mr. Corn Sweat. He hasn't, has the world found its hottest person?

It's, I forgot who posted this on, on socials, but they were like, I love that the PR for this movie, the campaign for this movie is just look at how hot this guy is, and I love how much it's going to work, and it did. Oh, it absolutely worked on me, and also, one thing I think that movie needs to get more credit for is that long scene between Clark and Lois, like, It was like a really long scene of just dialogue between the two of them. It was like, they're both so good. And Rachel is just like...

What a star. She's such a star and we love her so much. And just the really intelligent back and forth they were having like early in this movie. And then, you know, the rest of it just being so kind of just like unabashedly about going for the joke. A couple times I was like, wow, we are really broad. but I never was mad. I was just like, this is the energy we need.

No, just that whole scene of them also with like the alien in the background. I was like, that loved that. Like it reminded me of like scary movie three. Yeah. Naked Gunn-esque movies,

which I'm really excited to see. So excited. I think this is my favorite James Gunn, actually. Because, you know, famously, we did not live for guardians. Right. But. It is famous.

We have to. This was years and years and years ago. Bowen Yang and I walked out of Gardens of Galaxy. We walked out of two films together in history, and they were the first Guardians and Oppenheimer. Oh, and Oppenheimer, right. And directors who we love. Directors we absolutely love or else we wouldn't have been. Exactly.

So, but the thing is, um, this Superman movie, I was just like, wow, like, I could feel, and I really liked his suicide squad, too. I liked his suicide squad, too. Yeah, I just like really like his sense of humor. and I thought it worked really well here. And, yeah, I mean, incredibly, incredibly hot and talented lead actor playing Superman. Like, let's go. He's actually the inspo for my haircut currently. Oh.

I sat down in the chair with Thomas O. I see that. I see it. In Hollywood, baby. Shout out. And I said, corn sweat. Oh, my God. Which is that how you pronounce it?

I feel like the E is silent. Corn sweat. It's like, it's like if corn would, could sweat. That is hot. Cornswath. It could be a hot. It's not the hottest last name there is. What is?

Smith. Wait, I was going to say Smith. I was literally like, is he about to say Smith? I said, John Smith. But I also, it's also the most generic. You need to examine that. Oh. You're colonized.

You have colonized desire. And our devastation, thinking that we had lost an episode because Matt's audio, Matt's computer crash, we watch, we watch our hot ones versus. We cheered ourselves up by watching our Hot Ones versus. We love it. It's so fun. That team, first week feast team, great. They talk about going for the joke.

They get it. They get it. A team who gets it. So deeply over there. We love them and we love doing it. And even though we felt sick after, that's part of it. No, and it was worth it. And so we each ate four?

We each ate two. We each ate two? No, I think there was two left. No, we each ate two wings. Girl, I don't know. You watch it back. And you can too On YouTube.com

At first we feast Okay So maybe it's time for I'm trying to think Of course there's like More things in culture that we missed I mean Galane is getting interviewed

I guess right now huh Remember our episode about Galane One of our best One of our best And now she's like back What is going on? I don't know I don't know

I mean I have we have theories But we can't we can't I have so many theories I've actually become Quite a little conspiracy theorist about the whole thing. Look, this was all, this was all where it was headed. You know, like, we're all

conspiracy theorists now, and the left needs its own cue. The left needs its own cue. The left, and I'm happy to... Maybe it's us. We would be amazing cues. We would be amazing cues. We'd be incredible cues. We would have a fun cults. Yeah. We kind of do.

Right. And thank you, all you cultists out there. We just really do away with our P.K. P-Fs and just say R-K-P-F-K. See now we see this is what I'm saying. It's getting too... I was trying to lump Kyle's into the Katie's. I'm not here to say I told you so, but...

You can't put the genie back in the bottle. Because the genie is out flexing his big muscles. And that's Kyle. I'm not hearing from enough Kyle's. So that's, I'm going to say... You're on the shopping block? I'm going to invisibleize Kyle's until they prove otherwise to me. Can you guys please?

Kyle's should be in Bowen Yang's DMs, being nice. Okay, not prescriptive. No, it's fine. Not judgmental. Only nice. It's fine. Okay, so this is I don't think so honey. Yep.

It's our time. It's our moment in the, in that episode to sort of rant and rail against something in pop culture or culture at large. I'm going to be attacking culture at large. Okay. And this is something that, you know, it's one of my vices requires me to do something and I'm having a problem doing it. Okay. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honey.

It's time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The packaging on week. Like you can't open these things. What kind of weed? I'm talking about like pre-rolls that you would get at like an official weed store, like one of those Apple stores for weed in L.A. I don't think so, honey, the way that they sell this stuff. Also, by the way, this, I'm not even going to say what it is because I don't want the brand to feel embarrassed, but this is hard to open.

But once you get the hang of it, you. Like I'm telling you edibles, pre-rolls, like I haven't even really engaged anything else. They're childproofing. Yeah, it's child-proofing. But in the childproofing, you've also Matt Rogers proofed it. And that is going to happen when you childproof. You're going to also Matt Rogers proof. And I am your grown-ass fingers.

Let me tell you something. I can't open. It's not as simple as squeezing the sides and then popping the top. But it has to be because that's what you've said will do the trick. But it doesn't do the trick. Me and Melissa were banging our heads against the wall trying to smoke some indica. Oh. And I'm like, babe, I'm on the other planet of Strick.

now. I really need it. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. Read as if you feel me. Please reach out and tell me that I'm not crazy and alone in this. Because the packaging on marijuana has become restrictive. Criticize him. Criticize me, please. No, honestly, if I'm an idiot, if I'm an idiot, tell me. But I also don't think I am because I had a, you know, a witness there in Melissa and we were really, we could not open.

She can do anything. She can do it all. Yeah. You know how frustrating. it is to be there a full grown human alongside someone who can do it all and neither of you can do a thing? I didn't mean to doubt you. I just... No, because

I mean, the next time I have a problem, I'll just base time you and show you because like... But no, I ran into this recently. I bought a pack. I bought a pre-roll package and I was like, okay, all right. It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays. It's like getting into Fort Knox.

It's like, it's full of culture number 18. It's like getting into Fort Knox to smoke a blunt nowadays. You have a I don't think so, honey? Um, yeah, although I don't, I can't, I'm, I'm gonna find it as like, okay, okay, okay, okay, here we go. That is a way to do things. Okay, great.

This is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so honey on the culture, not knowing where we have landed on the Laboooo-Boo versus Lafoo-Fu-Discourse. It seems like now we're favoring Lafoufus more, because we are, you know, we see Labibu's as this artificial scarcity, you know, example. and why are we gatekeeping, you know, this trend from so many people. But at the same time, now it seems like we've overcorrected into the Lafou's where we, like, are kind of putting more value in the Lafoufoo because they're fake

and because they're knockoffs. But you can't knock off a culture that has thrived on knockoffs for decades at this point. I'm talking about China. They will beat us at this game. LubuBoo's will emerge as the victor. 15 seconds. I, for the longest time, was resisting the Labibu craze. And I finally went to the place of origin.

And I thought, well, I walked into a pot mart and I went, five seconds. This is glorious. And I'm seeing the people shake the boxes because they can tell by the weight and the feel, which ones are different. And I'm like, this is a turn I want to be on board for. And that's one minute. So we found out yesterday that the way you can tell a Lafufu from a Labubu is the number of teeth. Yes. I said, this is crazy.

It's biological. It's biological. I think this is filling the void in my heart. A lot of healing happened on this trip. That's the other headline. And we, you have perspective, you healed. Yes, and, you know, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Like, all the trips prior to this one were about me, like, being in the closet and staying in the closet. And I didn't necessarily come out to anyone on this trip. But the way I was being discussed on China made it very apparent to the people who were on social media, to my family members who were on social media. And I was like, you know what? I kind of like it this way that I didn't have to broach the subject external delights

external delights but if this also healed for me was never allowed to have a single beanie baby growing up this was my dad with tomogatchis interesting he was like why would I get you that you have a dog

well period I mean can't really argue with that but it was devastating at the time so you couldn't have a beanie baby couldn't have a beanie baby what was their reasoning for that they were like these are going to be all over the house

like literally so when we moved to the states we would go into like open houses and go to look at people's houses in Colorado and suburban Colorado and it would be you know we Yang and I would freak out I remember there's one room there's one kid's room

full of beanie babies and we were like oh my god mom and dad look at how many beanie babies they have they go yeah no way that is grotesque not at my home not in my home you're not having those fucking things in our house See, I think would, so they saw an example of an extreme.

Yes, and they went, we're not touching. I mean, it was this, it was just austerity and it's, it's immigrant parents and I told, I don't begrudge them of that. I just think all these years later, I had to heal that child. Yeah, you need my liboubu, and I love my laboooooo. Can you show your libubo? I've got one labo here. I've got the blue one.

Oh, that's really good. I've got the, and then another one came in. I'm going to, I'm, that is good. Okay, so I have not really engaged in Labubu or Lafoufou culture. Do you want my Labu? I have another Labuibu. I don't think, no, you take it because I feel like if I want, if I want one, I will pick, I will find the liboubu for me.

But how much is it? It depends. Okay, well, talk about that. I think if you go on StockX.com, you can buy one for like 40 bucks. And what's the, what's an example of an expensive Laboooooo? Like, if you want to like really like go for, I don't know, the premium ones, it could go like 100, 200. Okay.

Yeah. See, I thought it was so out of control that we were talking like a couple thousand dollar Lubbos. No, no. See, I, but that's the thing is it's like with things like this that become a fashion accessory, like where is the ceiling on what people would pay for that? Like, you have to imagine like, you know, for some people there probably is no ceiling if you love it that much.

Wait, you said the Lafufus can't turn their head around. The Labubu can turn its head around. I just turned it. Well, maybe you have a Lafouou. No! I count nine teeth and that is the real number. That's nine? That's nine.

All right. I have another one. I have another one in my room. Go get it. He's going to get the other Lubbubu and we're actually going to count the teeth right now to find out if it's real or not. This is a huge thing in culture and this is Los Colgerista. So if you are already at max with the Labubu of L. By the way, like in two, and two...

Wow, this is really good. In two seconds, these are going to be out of style. We're going to look like losers. One, two, three, four. four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. So this is real. And then can you turn its head around? I think they can all,

they can all have their heads turned around. No, this one doesn't turn around. That's what I'm saying. Like, by the way, I don't want to snap its head off. Because this is what? I don't know what you're paid for it. I don't want to ask you what you paid for it. But like, by the way, this one is cute.

Maybe I will take this one. Take her. Would you gift it to me? Yes. You don't want to give it up. No, that's yours. This is mine? Yes.

I think that's a really cute one. Okay, we're going to take a photo with our Lubbub, and that's going to be the episode of it for external delights. Yes. This has been an internal delight in terms of the people that make and create Las Culturistas, Bowen Yang and myself. And we have to say one more time that the Las Colouristas Cultural Awards are on August 5th on Bravo. So a real thing to say, we are going to be, you know, on Watch What Happens Live on Monday night. And we're going to be chatting with the man himself, Andy Cohen, who does factor into the, the show along with a lot of your faves and um yeah it streams the next down peacock anything you

want to say to prime the readers and more um because maybe they should just be called that readers and the readers and more interesting well we can't we can't now you're really trying to put the duty back in the bottle i think it will be out of this world that's a hint that's a hint okay well you guys are There's some La Boo-hoo's out there. And all you Lafoo's, we can tell. We end every episode with a song. Don't close my eyes. I don't want to fall asleep because I miss you, babe.

And I don't want to miss a thing. For more of that, watch the Culture Awards. Bye. Last Culture East, this is the production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Player. and IHeartRadio podcasts. Created and hosted by Matt Rogers and Bowen-Yag. Executive produced by Anna Hosniews, and produced by Becker Ramos,

edited and mixed by Doug Bame and Monique Laborde. And our music is by Henry Kobertsky. The Stuff You Should Know guys have made their own summer playlist of their must listen podcasts on movies. It's me, Josh, and I'd like to welcome you to the Stuff You Should Know Summer movie playlist.

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