Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Family Style" (w/ Will Ferrell)

Episode Date: June 24, 2020

Matt and Bow have a new daddy! And it's comedy legend Will Ferrell. Not to brag! Of course, by daddy we mean PRODUCER, as Will has just begun his new podcast platform Big Money Players Network, which Las Culturistas is so proud to be a part of! The boyz talk Will's new film Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga, which comes out on Netflix on June 26th, working with Rachel McAdams and Demi Lovato, and how a trip to Sweden inspired the film. They also dive into Eurovision culture, the polarizing initial reaction to Anchorman, how working at SNL inspired the rest of Will's comedy choices, and the ways in which Ron Burgundy is interacting with 2020 on The Ron Burgundy Podcast. Also, can you fucking believe Will's culture that made him say culture was for him is "Disneyland Character Meet and Greet Culture"?! The Cultchas are gonna have to almost pass OUT at THAT one. All this, the tale of how Matt and Bowen used to perform the Jaws Universal Studios attraction live on stages in NY (Bowen was the shark), and so much god damn more. A moment for the pod! Watch Eurovision on Netflix! XO Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow. Oh, and look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong.

Las Culturistas calling. And it's a moment for the pod. It's going to be a moment for the pod. Matt, I think, well, we've been sitting on this news for a while, I would say. We've been sitting on it so much. Our butts are our little tushies are numb. They're numb. Well, okay.

Let's just, let's just like get get down to business brass tacks with this. Of course, business first. That's actually rule of culture number 66. Business first. So the whole move to iHeart was sort of packaged to us, and we were lured even. Lured or lured? Would you add the umlaut to the U, Matt?

I would say lured. Lured. We were lured. And actually, that's the way Lorde, the singer, pronounces her name now. Breaking news, I'm getting that in my ear. She wants to be known as Ljord. Ljord.

Okay. She's an artist. She's an artist. Oh, and it's so funny how omlauts and just that sort of diphthong vowel sound kind of relates to what our guest is promoting right now. Right, exactly. It really does.

And that's part of the cultural crossover. Yes. And when I say that, I take both my arms and I sort of fold them over each other to sort of physicalize the umlaut. And this was the business that needed to come first, by the way, for everyone. Right, right, right. So we're just saying that the move to I Heart was predicated on this lure that our guest... Let's just say there was a proverbial fishing hook. Yes. Oh, I'm not familiar with fishing.

The line was cast. The line was cast and we being the fish, and to varying degrees, we both are fish because we are water signs astrologically. That's right. Now, we bit the hook, so to speak. We bit the hook. Our guest was starting a new podcast network

with iHeartRadio media it's called big money players we're so happy excited honored to be a part of the network oh we're thrilled and i have to say this was sort of this was because you know that on this podcast we talk about the culture that made us say culture was for us absolutely and it's actually interesting to have a guest that was a part of the culture that I think for both of us made us say culture was for us. Let's just start off by saying you and I were both high school intercom announcers. We were. My sign-off lines traded off between have a good day and a pleasant tomorrow,

which is a weekend update. Which is ripped from Tina Fey and it's theft. Well, Chevy Chase. And it's theft what you've done. Well, they, and Jane Curtin, they said it in the first iteration. Did they? That wasn't a, oh, okay.

Now I'm the one being educated. Tina brought it back. But then my other sign-off line, which was my sister's sign-off line when she did it was, you stay classy, Smokey Hill. And that's ripped. And that's ripped.

And that's ripped from our guest. Now, how is it formative for you? Go, go. Well, let's just say that, well, I'd actually rather tell this to the guest. Okay. Amazing. So I'd rather just, first, let me say, so before this, Bowen and I recorded a video trailer for this podcast, Las Cotteristas. And I decided for that video trailer to wear, quote unquote, a fun shirt. And then I was sort of volleying back and forth with Bowen,

like, do I change out of my fun shirt for the guest? And I realized I was nervous and anticipating the guest to that point where I didn't know what shirt to wear. Like it was a damn date or something. Wow. Because I want to represent myself well. Conservative, but attractive. Appealing.

Oh. Jumps off the screen, but not obnoxious. These are the things we navigate. Oh my goodness. And but attractive. Appealing. Oh. Jumps off the screen but not obnoxious. These are the things we navigate. Oh my goodness. And you had to tone yourself, you had to dial yourself back

for our guests. And that's this code switching that I'm doing, you know? But the thing about our guest is he, I mean, and now you know, now it's sort of, you've sort of proved

this out for yourself. Once you see him, once you talk to him, it all melts away. It all melts away. He's not this, you know, A-list. He's not fast and he's not this you know a list he's not fast and a list no yeah he's not fast and a list you know he's not down at what's it called the chateau you know sort of like with his eyes down like don't look at him like he's very sort of you know he's the approachable guy and i feel that he's wearing

the appropriate hat for the moment yes we'll we'll talk about that. Let's just quickly go through the credits. Yeah, what are his credits? Where will we know him from? Well, he was a cast member on SNL for seven seasons. He co-founded Beloved, comedy outlet Funny or Die. He has produced so many wonderful works. He is founding Big Money Players Network, which we're so happy to be a part of.

And he's promoting his new film, Eurovision Song Contest, The Story of Fire Saga. Which we have seen. Which we have seen. We love it. It's so funny. It is a goof-aloof fest.

We love it. And it's based on, of course, Eurovision, which is amongst the gayer things to happen in history. Yes. So we're very excited

that there is a film depicting the moment to happen in history. Yes. So we're very excited that there is a film depicting the moment that is Journal Vision. Yes. And so we're so excited to have the moment that is our guest. Welcome into your ears, Will Ferrell! Yes.

Who's here? Will, tell everyone what you're wearing, what the hat you're wearing. What does it say? What's the hat say? I am wearing a, what appears to be a MAGA hat. It's the same font, same red hat with the white letters,

but it says, make America gay again. And thank you. We need to make America gay again. Again. Again. We need to make America gay again. Again. Again. We need to make it gay. I love that, you know, walking down the street

could be a Trumper and he could look into your eyes and think there's one in me and then upon closer inspection, no, sir. Here's the best thing. I have worn this hat a couple of times

and I would get so many looks from people who were like, wow, he's actually wearing that hat. Yeah. And then it would be a double take once they saw what it actually said. So, and then it just, I got too many of the first round of looks, which were, please take

that hat off. Right. So I stopped wearing it. So this is fun to get to put it back on again. Yeah, it's sort of, it's a trick of the eye because upon first glance, I mean, I actually saw Bowen before he had to go all the way up close to his computer to say

that he can't possibly be wearing a Make America Great Again hat. And then I saw the look of sheer delight in his eyes once he realized the humor. i was incredulous at first and then i saw what the wording was and then i and then i sighed you were sort of internally this will ferrell where oh do i know him i don't think i do and wait okay i do i do know him yes i know this guy so I have to tell you, this is very exciting to have you on

because not only just because you are you, Will Ferrell, an icon to us, a hero to us comedically, but also you kind of did enter my personal life in a time I really needed help because it was ninth grade I think I was in. I needed help. You needed help. Bad. So it was was ninth grade I think I was in I needed help bad so it was like ninth grade I was like a gay teen young gay closeted

teen and then I remember I wasn't fitting in with like everyone in school and Anchorman came out and I remember going into school and everyone was quoting Anchorman it kind of became one of those movies where everyone universally was loving it.

And it actually did make me fit in and make friends. The fact that I had like a knowledge of that movie. Oh, that you could kind of throw down some Anchorman specific quotes. Yes. Gotcha. It was kind of just like, because that was very much like a thing. I think it's like, oh, we can all quote the same movies. We all have the same cultural language. But that entered my life in a time when I was like, yeah, I needed that. That's nice to hear because that's not exactly what was happening in the theaters initially, because we were getting stories from friends and family who were... I literally had one of my best friends in college go to see it opening weekend with his wife and another couple. And the other couple just halfway through just were like, we're out of here.

We don't get this movie. They just said, wow. I'm so sorry. Yeah, just left. Wow. And I remember Adam telling a story of a friend of his calling him up saying he had gone to the, to the theater ahead of time. He was, he was watching something else.

He thought, Oh, I'll watch the last 10 minutes of Anchorman. He poked his head into, uh, and he watched, he literally, as during the end credits,

he heard like a verbal altercation between people in the theater. One person was like, well, Farrell, I want my money back. And someone else was like, shut uprell, I want my money back. And someone else was like, shut up, that movie's funny. And so it really was, you know, when it first kind of came out, people were like, either absolutely loved it or just thought, I do not know

what to make of this, which is kind of a good place to be. It sounds like a cop out to say this, but I feel like that's how you know you've done something correctly. It's interesting you say that though, because I actually went, I remember, okay, this is the story of how I saw Anchorman. My family and my cousins were all going to Coney, not Coney Island.

We were going to Dorney Park. So we were, we lived in Long Island and we were all driving up to go to Dorney Park and we were so excited. I've like always- Thank God you were not going to Coney Island. No, no. Thank God. Thank God it was to Dorney Park and we were so excited I like always thank God you were not going to Coney Island no no we were yes thank God it was a Dorney Park it was a Dorney Park trip and

those are those are singular so we were on our way to Dorney Park and it was I couldn't have been more excited because I was like I'm I still am to this day like a theme park person and when this becomes a therapy session in five minutes we'll unpack it. But I was so excited and so were all my cousins to do roller coasters and like do the whole thing. It downpoured the most in Pennsylvania history. It rained, I remember like, the news was like,

oh, well, not only is everything closed today, but it's raining more than it ever has ever. Like kids' days are ruined, especially if you're going to Dorney Park. I'm steady catch you this is the movie minute um but anyway so we were devastated we it wasn't even like oh let's still go to the theme park the lines will be short no so me and all my family including my little cousins went to the movie theater and there was anchorman playing and so you thought what the heck

yeah i thought what the heck right we're watching what the heck? Right. We're watching it. And me and my cousin who were like 13, 14 were dying, laughing hysterical because we didn't know really what it was going to be. And then it turned out to be truly so fucking funny. But my mother did have to take my little cousin and my sister out. They did leave because my mother was like, I can't be talking whale's vagina to my young daughter. Like, what is this? And just like, it was so jarring. And I think that's part of why I loved it so much

because I did not know what it was going to be, which maybe speaks to what you're saying. It's funny because we, having come from SNL, where you're obviously given some leeway as to what you can kind of, you know, present to the table. But for the most part, there are a lot of, that shows governed by a lot of rules. And I think it was our expression of like, we're just, why does it have to follow this way at this time? We just were like, let's break every comedy rule we can think of and just have this be this

reckless, kind of joyous experience and kind of come back to the ensemble comedy that I kind of grew up loving. And we just had as much fun making that movie as we could, partly because I think there was a real feeling of like,

they may just shut us down. This may be the last time we get to do this. So let's just go out with a bang. You thought that that early on though, in your post-SNL career, that like this might be the end? Well, just because, you know, you have to remember, like, I think we got, we had written the script and it wasn't, just went out with it and i think we got like 10 12 rejection like that movie just kept getting wow yeah uh no one really wanted to buy a a comedy about a newsroom comedy uh they just couldn't add up you know they i don't think they saw how absurd it was going to be and you know what you know that cast was going to kind of bring to it and things like that. So we just, when we finally got to make it, we thought, Oh,

this is like, we're playing with the house's money here. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I, yeah. When you're talking about it, it's like, you have to imagine it wouldn't like pitch super well,

you know what I mean? Like off the page, it doesn't feel like in a studio would be like, yes, that is something that I think is going to happen. We need that like comedy about 70s anchorman like sort of navigating sexism right and uh throwing you know purposely littering you know things like that yeah but it really is like that's one of the reasons i love it so much is it really is about sort of like toxic masculinity and like like it is like a it's a satire of that taken all the way down the road but then like in recent years since that movie has come out you realize like this while it is a sort of extreme caricature

of that situation it's actually really not dissimilar to the way that women would be treated spoken to i mean it's it's just really it holds up any any sort of news person i've run into as has said oh we've i know people exactly like ron burgundy which is funny and scary all at the same time right but uh yeah i mean it was while it was a silly movie I remember one of the worst reviews we got was actually from the San Diego local paper and they they were like we're very disappointed in this movie it really really had an opportunity to say something and it just it just missed the mark and but you know conversely like the Guardian a lot of the British papers, they totally got what we were doing. And they were like, this is great satire.

I'm wondering, I mean, you and Adam writing it after SNL, having that mindset of let's break every rule because we have been so used to a pretty stringent environment. Right. Were you guys aware of that as you were both finishing up your tenures there? Because I feel like once you're, I don't know, not to make it sound like this... Watch it. Watch it. Easy.

What I'm saying, like working there, when you work there, you sort of like abide by all the rules and you kind of have to. And I feel like, did you guys like intentionally bring that with you once you guys left? That mindset. That's a really good question. I think it was probably, I think it was still probably more subconscious.

But yeah, there was a feeling of being sick of the rules and quotes of comedy. And why can't we punt a dog off a bridge and have it come back to life and save us from grizzly bears? Why? Because if I pitch that, someone's going to laugh politely and then leave the room and go, that's the worst I've ever heard. So I think it was probably an extension of both of just executing that idea

and wanting to do something crazy and then also just wanting to kind of get away from something that has such a form that it sticks to. Right. Yeah, I think that's something that Bowen and I respond to. And that whenever we're together and we're really laughing at something, we laugh at something because it is so stupid. And that's just our humor together. I think that's something I recognized in it from a very early age. Even if you watch the sort of outtakes i prefer

to call them bloopers i think bloopers is the funniest word in the in human history i want to call them bloopers and actually rule of culture number 100 they're not outtakes they're bloopers they're not outtakes they're bloopers and they can be shortened to bloops. To bloops, yes. Shortened to bloops. Yeah, that's, yes. We'll add an addendum onto the rule. We have people that do that. So, like, there was a scene where, like,

you're in the car with Christina Applegate, who, by the way, is our queen. Amazing. And she's so incredible. And, oh, my God, she's so amazing in that movie. But there's a scene where you are doing the whale's vagina San Diego thing to her in in the car and you start breaking down laughing and you say it's just so stupid yeah this is so stupid yeah and that's that is i think something that

gets a little lost nowadays which i think is sort of uh having a resurgence or i hope it is because i almost feel like, or I'm hopeful that, that we can return to sort of like really going for the joke, big characters, like comedy is supposed to be funny. You know what I mean? Like,

right, right. Yeah. That, that was just, you know, the realization of, of the moment that these stupid lines that we'd written in a room,

in a vacuum, we now had, there we were parked on a bluff in the middle of the night with a crew of 50 people having to film this moment. Saying them. And you're getting paid for it. And it's kind of like, oh, this is, you know, if I don't ever get to do another thing again, I'll be good. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. Speaking of, speaking of stupidity, I would say, or just like a big budget comedy, which I feel like is, as a concept is like waning from Hollywood right now. Let's talk about Eurovision song contest the story of fire saga do you like that concise title by the way i i love the title i love that but that it's it's for that same reason it's like that's why we love ricky bobby that's why i love going on it's that's so funny though like a title should be title should be like uh fucking fiona apple album titles like yeah they go on and on and on. Like the fact that it's such an epic title, I think only helps that matters.

I love it. It communicates something to the audience. You're like, oh, okay. I know what I'm in for. This is going to be silly. It's an entire paragraph.

It's so fun. Okay. So I, I, so, but I was talking to Matt about this before we started recording over text. I was like, oh yeah,

like I can't remember. Maybe it's just cause I have a million blind spots with this, but I'm like, when was the last like big budget comedy that like I've seen with like international stars? And like, it's about, and like,

it just felt very, it felt like a nice like comedy, frozen in amber kind of thing from like early to mid aughts. Whereas like, oh yes, like I enjoy this kind of movie very, very much. So was that like I enjoy this kind of movie very very much um so was that like was that kind of what you and because you and Andrew were like going to Andrew

Steele right we're going to Eurovision to like like figure out a story around this or like well like what was the seed crystal behind it yeah um I mean the crazy the crazy journey of this is that, so I, my wife Vivica is Swedish. We've been going to Sweden for 20 years every summer. In fact like a little cabin in the country that we were out picking mushrooms, you know, with rubber boots on, as you would do in Sweden, right? And this is a good film, by the way. Have you written this down? This is a really good film.

I need to. This is a good film. This is a good film. There's a feature in that. So she just, we had dinner, and she's like, like oh shall we sit down and watch Eurovision and we're like

yes of course we should and we it happened to be the night of the finale because there's two semi-final nights for your listeners and then there's a final night and we watch we sat there for three hours and then there's a final final night and we watch we sat there for three hours

and watch the oh yeah it's a whole thing it's a whole thing because the last 20 acts or so they do their performance then yes they have some special guests and then they tabulate all the votes and each country does this whole series of voting and and it builds this tension but i was sitting there going what is going on what is this incredible yeah um and it's even gotten over the years a little more um you know everyone pretty much sings in english now and yeah the acts are are kind of you know they're really trying to get played on the radio. And yet there's still some just amazing moments between the staging, the costumes. And so I was watching this, you know, 20 years ago going, oh, this has to be a movie and someone's going to make it. And no one ever did.

I kept waiting to like, you know, read, oh, so-and-so finally made a comedy about Eurovision. And it wasn't until, yeah, four or five years ago that I called up Andrew Steele, former SNL writer. And I was like, Andrew, you got to check this thing out called Eurovision. I've always wanted to make a movie. I don't, I'm not, I'm not doing anything right now in this moment of time. Let's fly out there. And so we flew out to Copenhagen and that was the year that Conchita Wurst won for Austria. And so we, we got to see it, you know, in its entirety there. And I was with Andrew and our producer, Jessica Elbaum. And I was like, do you guys see what I'm, I'm talking about here? And so, yeah. And then from that point on, that's when we sat down with the Eurovision people and said, would,

would you let us make a movie? Yeah. And what, what was their response? Cause you have to imagine like there's been nothing about it. So this would be the first thing. It was, um,

I think it was very, it was very European. The reaction. It was, well, Hmm. We don't really need the publicity we get like 200 million viewers every year uh and uh and i said you know obviously it'd be a comedy but i think we'd be making fun

but it is also an homage and with love at the same time for the process and right they were like uh yeah i don't see why not and and that was kind of the agreement and then uh they let us kind of yeah it's interesting that you say that like it's a comedy but it's also it is also an homage because something about the movie that i didn't expect is it is actually a very sweet movie you know what i mean like it's it's way sweeter than we really set out to make it. And then we really started really kind of digging in deeper and making it about a relationship between these two friends and what the music means to them in terms of the competition and listening to each other and things like that.

It is surprisingly sweet in a way that in the final song that Rachel's character sings, there I was at every single test screening, I'm in the back of the theater crying. Oh. Kind of with how sweet the song is, I feel. And it's actually a really good song. It's very good. Every time I would watch that moment, I just would think about, gosh, I can't believe we finally made this movie.

And anyway, all of those things are interwoven when I watch that moment. It's really lovely. Okay. We should say your co-stars are Rachel McAdams, Dan Stevens, Pierce Brosnan, Demi Lovato. Demi Lovato has fun moments. We endorse Demi Lovato on this podcast. This is a podcast that loves, endorses, and as the kids say, stands Demi Lovato. Yes, yes. And something explosive happens with her character.

We love her. Yes. What's she like? She was fantastic. I mean, that was, you know, David Dobkin, our director kind of has all these ties to the music world because he still does a lot of music videos. And he was like, I think we can get Demi to play this role. And she was so sweet and lovely.

And she was actually shooting during her birthday. Oh, fun. We kind of had this really special moment where, and she had just come out of her last rehab stint. Yes. I really wanted to work on this because I'm a fan. And I go, you're so sweet. We can't believe you're doing this. We just can't believe. And she said, but I have to tell you, like watching your movies really kind of helped me.

Wow. Kind of go through what I had to go through. And it's weird when you get hit in the chest with something like that. And it's so personal to her. And it was one of the sweetest things ever. And I was like, and now you're going to do this crazy character in this movie. And she's like, I don't get to do things like this so it was uh it was really kind of beautiful and she just was she was up for anything and the thing that struck us too was uh you forget that oh my god she is a she's an absolute pro yeah she's yeah well she's one of those kids like she's like a barney girl you know what i mean like she's been doing it since the jump she hits the stage she knows exactly where the camera is she's turning perfectly

yeah she's a pop star oh my gosh stone cold pro yeah and would do like three takes and like oh my god i don't know what else you're gonna do and yeah she sounds unbelievable on the track that she sings like it's great it's really cool um but you mentioned like just the behavior of a pop star on stage and actually that was something that i was really picking up on during it like obviously eurovision is a very european show and the pop stars are very european um and so there is like this element of like whimsy to everything and it's something that i love it's like it's like pop music taken all the way to that pop place like it is they're truly playing characters on maximalism in pop music so did you like sort

of observe a lot of a lot of performances i would imagine that you've like probably seen years going back but did you and rachel who also would say, really embodied a pop star on stage during their performances, what did you do for that? Yeah, I mean, Andrew and I, we attended three of them in person and just, yeah, watching everything. We forget because we have American Idol,

we have The Voice, we have these habitual kind of things that are happening all the time, and the U.S. is kind of the epicenter of pop music culture in so many ways. For this, for Eurovision, it's 47 countries, and some of the countries are so small and might be 300, 400,000 people, if that. And this is this moment for them to get in front of 15, 20,000 people and a worldwide audience. And you can tell it means so much, the moment. And they just don't have the same platforms that I think we all take for granted, whether

it be the UK or over here. That's one of the things, you know, obviously we observed the funny or interesting or kitschy or however you want to describe it, costumes. And, you know, when we were in Tel Aviv, I believe, which is where we shot a lot of the crowd stuff. You know, one of the acts is a guy, I couldn't figure out what the camera angle was, this guy singing, and it looked like he was kind of upside down. And then he's being raised up and he's a full vampire

coming out of a flaming grand piano. And I was like, wow, that, they thought of this. Yeah. They built it. They talked about it. There was meetings, wow, they thought of this. Yeah. They built it. They talked about it. There was meetings. And executed it.

They pulled it off. And I don't know, that kind of European style and flair is just a whole other thing to comment on. It's truly crazy. Well, it's a spoiler, but insane things happen on stage while you and Rachel are performing. And like, it's almost like you, the audience believe the insanity. Like that could be part of the performance.

Like I've seen crazier things in Eurovision than like an actual disastrous thing happening as a plot point in this movie. Like that is like what goes down. Because it serves the comedy very well, especially in the physical ways or especially in like the slapsticky ways. And I would say, well, that this is,

I think your gayest film, your queerest film. Matt, would you agree? I would have to agree. Yes, yes. And like there's- You would put it above blades of glory i blades of glory is blades of glory is your most incestuous film okay i would feel like this i love blades of glory i feel blades of glory is up there for me because it really it again about something

super specific yes super fun characters big jokes and also like i fucking love amy poehler and will arnett oh yeah that is just stront and fairchild she's like blowing out the guns like well i don't know it's just so funny so stupid yeah i wanted to i wanted to ask like so we as a podcast have are on record for saying that rachel mccadam deserved an oscar for mean girls so this is like a podcast that has for many years wanted to see her return to like big comedy like this yeah and then it's so fun to see her return to big comedy like this because she has become such a movie star right and you know that's kind of just what happened after mean girls and she's sure she's done comedy but to see her play a character is fun what's your experience with her and please spare

no detail we love rachel i mean rach yeah she you kind of forget just like you said she's probably known more for the notebook and the series actress and that sort of thing but she is so committed and funny and specific and even to the point of singing with a specific Iceland accent. And cause we are, Fire Saga is from Iceland. Yes. Your readers, it's your readers,

right? It's our readers. Thank you. You have a readership. This is a, this is a book in many ways. It's a book. Right.

But she, I think she was a a little bit like oh here we go haven't been on the ship in a while but then she just she just dove right in and she's funny she's funny and so lovable to look at that she kind of gives my character, Lars, you know, the weight behind it because she's willing to go on his journey with him. Oh, yeah. And she brings such sincerity to how much she loves this guy with this dream that, you know, he's tried 20-something years now to get in. Yeah. And so it allows you to believe in my story

and our story collectively. We had the best time. I mean, she's all hands on deck. She's got a kid and a partner, and so I didn't get to see her that much. I was out partying in London, and she could not answer the bell. No, come on. She got something the bell. No, come on.

She got something going on. Rachel, come on. Rachel, come on. We're going to party. Also, not for nothing, but I went to Stockholm. This is a couple of years ago, but we did like, Europe for the first time, we landed in Stockholm. We were going to Amsterdam, but we still had like a day

and a half to spend in Stockholm. And Stockholm. Such a fun city and also we did go to the pop music hall of fame which I've talked about a little bit on this podcast but it's essentially like an ABBA hall of fame but pop music hall of fame but there's like have you've definitely been like I've been to the ABBA exactly the euro it's like a whole eurovision section and you can watch all the performances and that I think was my first experience with it. Like, this is crazy.

Like finding out that Celine Dion was in it. Sure. Truly. Like, it's like, there's such a deep well of pop music history that I think Americans don't really know about that is Eurovision. But it's an institution. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's,

and which is, which is why it's interesting, something that's so viewed there, we don't really, we don't really know that much about it over here.

Sure. Exactly. It's so weird. Until two weeks from now. And then, oh, America will know

whether they want to or not, whether they want to or not whether they want to or not I do love the idea that you Will Ferrell are the ambassador for Eurovision it's too good also I do want to say that I have a deep appreciation for the fact

that the Dan Stevens character in this film is like a baritone pop singer because that is like that is something that is a very prevalent thing in Eurovision and around the world is like, men who are singing like this.

We don't really have that here. No, it's all tenors. Yeah, right. Guys with super, super high voices. No, he is, he is all man and very sexualized

and yeah, big, deep, powerful baritone yeah he is he is a masculine presence singing with his song Lion of Love Lion of Love which had amazing I don't know if when you guys

watched the movie if you noticed the video screen behind the performances has amazing graphics of lions and impalas and animals from the African tundra jumping behind his performance. The animal kingdom is very much present. Yes, very much so. You guys shot in where?

Like Glasgow and Edinburgh and like Iceland. You guys were in Iceland. We actually were in Iceland for the last four days. And I think we could have found a place that looked similar to a small town that would have been just 20 miles out of Reykjavik, 20 minutes. Yeah. But instead we're four hours away. I love that.

And all the Icelandic actors I would talk to, they'd be like, you're actually shooting in Husavik. I was like, yeah, isn't that great? They're like, why? There's nothing there there's two restaurants one hotel and uh so here we were this big movie crew kind of took over this small little little town which had an amazing uh i don't have you guys been to iceland it was my

first time no but i've always wanted to go it's like it's like sort of become like a very popular vacation destination in the past couple years i've seen a lot of insta photos from there these hot springs yeah this small town of maybe 10 000 people had this incredible hot spring complex up at the top of the hill um so everyone would after shooting go up and have a beer in the hot springs unbelievable that sounds so i was literally i was wondering like, is this Iceland or is this movie magic? Because you know, they could do amazing things in Hollywood,

this movie magic. They can make you believe you're anywhere in the world. We were, we were limping to the finish line a little bit on the movie

because I went into my trailer and all of a sudden someone just came in and she starts, there was no knock. It just into the trailer and uh there's just she starts putting a piece of paper on on the bathroom door of my trailer i'm like oh hello she's like hello just keeps working i'm like uh can i can i help you and he's like yes uh you cannot use your bathroom and uh

and it's starting this is in october so it's starting to get i don't think it's cold for them but it was cold for me yeah yeah um and i'm like oh why like just for like the next hour or like no for the whole time and i go can i ask why she's like well we the the pipes will freeze we can't so oh okay so but she said but don't worry there's a port-a-potty that you guys can share over here and so i didn't worry no but still i but still. I didn't understand what was happening because I know they make a lot of movies in Iceland now, but for some reason we couldn't use... But not in Husavik.

Yeah, exactly. Hollywood or Husavik. So I think that meant that someone didn't want to stay up all night long and run the heater so the pipes don't freeze. I think the toilets are unionized in Iceland. I think that's what the deal is. That's a huge that's a very strong union there.

Big union. Big livery. Movie toilets. It has to be. Okay, so you finished shooting that in October and then you before we ask the question and cut to a break, I do want to ask or talk about the sketch, which I think has taken on this weird life of its own.

But Will, you came and hosted in November of this past season. It was a highlight for me and highlight for everybody there. We were so excited that you were back. We did the sketch at dress rehearsal called Cast List. Oh, yes. And then it got cut for time. I know. It sort of has had its weird little quote. It's had a moment online. It was cut for time but it sort of has had it's a weird like little

it's had a moment online it was cut for time but it was where you were the drama teacher and then we were all the kids waiting for the cast did you help write that? no that was Streeter and Mikey Streeter Seidel and Mikey Day oh my god I love that sketch it's a great sketch

I looked it up last night just to prep for this interview and I was just like let me just like relive this and watch it but then in my YouTube search more like there's at least one video out there of an actual drama club

at a high school like doing a line for line reenactment of the sketch of the sketch and they're adding their own details in there

but like I feel like this is like part of like that little subculture now of like actual high school drama departments who like watch that sketch and are like oh this is so real because that was the response everyone

was like this is so accurate oh my god and it was just kind of a collection of of stereotypical memory memories of yes of drama types yeah yeah yeah oh my god that's hilarious well that's i mean i guess that's the good and bad part about the show is that things cut for time now have the second life. Right. Where in my day, when it was cut for time, it was just gone. You had to mourn it. You maybe would hopefully get to bring it back. But I probably, yeah, I probably had as many people reacting to that

as anything that was on the actual show that day. Really? Yeah. That's so... How do you guys feel about when stuff gets put online? Would you rather have it have a second life on the real show or... Oh, that's a good question.

I... It depends. So for me, when it's's when something gets cut for time that can't really be recreated with another host i would say then like that's when i've only had to do that once and that was when rupaul hosted in february and we he and i had a sketch that was cut for time and i was like i'm not gonna be able to do this with another host like he's like and the fact that things are consumed in so many different ways it's not totally exactly and like a lot of people are watching it the next morning anyway

um but yeah like i hadn't really and and this is so myopic of me for not thinking that like oh yeah before youtube like you know if you're if you're sketching just we're gone yeah yeah yeah you're just uh how great is rupaul by the way so great great. You interviewed him for Ron Burgundy podcast. Yeah, for Ron Burgundy, and we were just blown away at how smart the guy is. The guy is so smart. Yeah. He's lived a life. He can kind of talk about anything. Yeah, he really has. He's incredible. High school dropout.

High school dropout. Right? So that's why I've been telling all the readers that listen to this, everyone's got to drop out of high school. This is what I keep saying. That's the new movement. That's my big initiative. And actually, we should say right now, the title of this episode is Drop Out of High School Kids.

So just so we get that message out there straight away. I always feel like whenever you tell me something is cut Bowen, and it appears online the next day, I think that another thing we have to remember is not everyone is watching it at 1130 on Saturday anyway and so it's like for them for anyone it's just like another

SNL sketch you know they're just consuming piecemeal and granularly anyway did the did the peekaboo jeans did that air on the on air or was that cut for, was that later? That also got cut for time and I was very sad about it. Crazy.

They were out to get you that week, Bowen Yang. They were, no. I didn't get anything on. I did get to stand next to Will. Will was playing Tom Steyer. I was playing Yandri Yang. And my terrible, terrible Yandere Yang. But then, but in this peekaboo,

this Wrangler peekaboo sketch written by Alex Moffat, Will Steven, I was so excited because I, there was a moment where you and I, Will, had to walk down this bar. But we just, and we had to bump butts, and our ass cracks were showing, and I was like, I can't believe I get to

like... Did your butt crack touch his butt crack butt the cracks didn't touch but yeah it it got it got pretty close it got close yeah yeah yeah yeah okay but there wasn't i was like i can't believe i get to air my asshole with well and i got to uh to uh hip check a jukebox with my wrangler peekaboos did that hurt no not really it was just like hey what if i walked over here and gave the jukebox a little a little a little how do you do yeah and uh and that stayed in the commercial that's it yeah your your instincts are always perfect okay let's take a quick break no i, I just want to... No, not... Not yet. Oh, not yet? One thing, which is that I can't believe that we have not spoken about

the sketch that you did with Cecily, which was the sort of reality show, Bravo-type thing. James Anderson. James Anderson. And it also made me think of the sketch when you sang, Call me a boy tonight.

That one, years ago. Like like the cabaret what was it called it was kristen wigg and bill were hosting like a jazz night oh it's um i should know this it's broadway sizzle broadway sizzle broadway sizzle yeah james anderson that guy is genius best he's a legend yeah i i actually listened to your guy's show with james uh um and it's so funny to hear him be interviewed yeah well he's the best we so you know like we we came to visit sudi sudi green who's one of the writing supervisors and we were upstairs you guys met yeah and we met him and it was it was like one of those moments though because that was another thing like around the same time the same kind of people i was connecting with in high school over Anchorman also loved the sketches that I would later find out he was writing almost all of them.

And so that was like a true moment. Like he is amazing. No. And that was such a fun thing because I would just remember, oh, this is Paula Pell's friend, James. Yeah. Come by and then, wait, James is now writing. Great. But it's crazy that he wait, James is now writing. Great. But it's crazy that he's been writing for 20 years.

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it's just defining pop culture it could be something you saw as you were becoming you that sort of helped define how you did become you oh my gosh um you know well there's probably a bunch of different answers yes okay you mentioned though matt theme parks your love of theme parks. Okay. I'm going to brace myself now. Okay. So growing up in Orange County, California, in the mean streets of Irvine, which is adjacent to Anaheim, home of Disneyland. So I grew up going to Disneyland probably two to three times a year. And in thinking about this actual question, Disneyland was a huge, that was a huge part of my life. What I really think about-

Amazing to hear. And I remember being five years old and thinking at my first thought of this is what i want to do with my life but it wasn't being entertaining my my job that i pictured in my little kid head i wanted to be a character so that meant i wanted to dress up as goofy donald duck mickey mouse and just walk around the park and i was yeah i was i was thought that would be the most joy-filled experience to get to even though i i have no no consideration what's for for temperature control or break time especially then or the fact that you don't get to say a word you just have to you are a silent human form but i was in love with those with that kind of uh kind of watching

that kind of connection between the meet and greet experience yeah exactly and i i remember And I remember thinking that those were probably the first seeds of wanting to entertain were planted with our annual, biannual, you know, three times a year if we're lucky, trips to Disneyland. Which, by the way, trips to Disneyland started with tears and ended with tears. Oh, yeah. Because you're so damn tired. The tears of anticipation of not being able to sleep the night before. I know. Going tomorrow's the day we are going to. Nothing like waking up on that morning. Nothing like waking up and nothing like,

I remember getting in the most ridiculous arguments with my brother about which rides we got to go on first. And you know, the impulse is to go on Mattermount, you know. Miss Matterhorn. Matterhorn right out of the gate. I'm like, no, you got to save it. You can't do Matterhorn right away.

We got to start with the teacups and work our way up. And he's like, why would we do the teacups? They're terrible. But having fights about that. And then before you know it, mom's saying one more ride and we're like and we're out what and it's tears and you've let go of your helium balloon as you see it drift off into the parking lot so that's like a huge thing yeah i have to say i'm i'm more your brother type because i'm the kind of person that's especially the way that they do it now where it's

like with the fast pass of it all where it's like you have to kind of get a reservation to do these rides and if you don't get one it's gonna run out for the rest of the day so you kind of got to do that stuff early that meet and greet experience that you that you describe it's on a whole other level now especially in the past couple years as some of the movies have really popped off like i'm specifically talking about frozen oh yeah we went to epcot one time and obviously there's no kids in my in my family and i don't really care about the meet and greet experience at this point but um it was like the line to meet elsa was longer than any attraction line like it was like a four hour yeah imagine i and I thought to myself,

like imagine being a parent and you, this is, you really have to be a selfless person to be a parent in Disney. But like standing in line for, I'm not kidding you, four hours. Yeah. To meet a woman who is dressed up as a character to get this experience for your kid.

But the little girls, you could see it meant so much to them. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. It's pretty cool. And then my dad's a musician and played for 20, 25 years on and off with the Righteous Brothers.

And there were summers where they performed at Disneyland. And so that was like a magical experience. They have like the Tomorrowland stage, which rises up out of the center of the earth. Like it does in the future. Like stages will in the future, we should say. And I was like, oh my God, this is incredible. Yeah.

They had this like in Disney World, they have, it's called the Starlight Cafe. I think it's called the Starlight Cafe. Yeah, Starlight Cafe like i've never been to disney world by the way oh you must go it's i mean it's like disneyland on true like yeah it's like it's on another acid it's like fully exploded it's 10 000 times bigger it's like it's really a little overwhelming and a little bit kind of scary how big it is and what an expedition it is but it's something you should go at least once but they have this like alien playing the piano and sort of like doing like a like sort of cabaret like sort of thing while you eat your like fast food and i used to think it was the coolest thing ever that they had an alien

doing that i was like that's such a good touch to get the alien coming in here alien going it was a full animatronic but bowen do you did you have a family pilgrimage to dis to any of the disney parks we did we um understood the significance of disney so we in 99 when we we went and so um but it was a thing where, and this- Was it too built up? It was not too built up. And I remember, I remember,

I remember even as like a nine-year-old leaving and being like, this exceeded my expectations, which is- Oh, yeah. Which never happens as a child. I thought this was strictly

like an immigrant thing, but I think this is just like if you're middle class, but we couldn't eat in the park we had to bring our sandwiches into the park talking like buying a commemorative cup was a huge flash huge deal yes huge deal and like my sister and i would use all our powers of persuasion to like get at universal um a cup with a souvenir cup Jurassic Park with a T-Rex head like that was like the prize the holy grail yes yes that was

what you that was what you like went there for so you could theoretically bring the cup home and bring it to school and like show your friends yeah it was all about the cup and remember the thing that they did to sell the cup was to tell you, this is a cup that you can keep refilling. Free refills. It was like, this is a special cup. You know, these other cups, these other young girls, you can't refill them. This one, you can fill back up with any refreshment of your choice. I almost worked there one summer in college and went through the orientation and everything.

Only to not show up for my first day of work. Because I wanted to be one of the Jungle Cruise guys. Wow. I'm so happy you brought this up with the jokes. With the jokes and the banter. And I was like, I can do that. I could nail that. And I didn't realize that that's one of those jobs.

You have to work there 10 years at the park to get those. It's like a whole audition process. It's a whole thing. It's like a hierarchy. It's a whole thing. And did you know, speaking of things, when you walk down Main Street, the candy stores, they pump the scent of vanilla out into the street

to suck you in. Oh, it's a huge... Everything about it is planned out. So I got a little peek into the street to lure you in oh it's a huge it's everything about it is planned out so i got a little peek behind the curtain i didn't like it as much as when i was a kid well i mean if you peek behind the curtain there you're not gonna like a lot of what's happening i mean those workers are underpaid let's flat out say that right now it's rule of culture number 91 those workers at disney are underpaid but this is the thing about Disneyland, I think. And even, let's say Universal Studios or, like, Knott's Berry Farm, but, like, L.A. or in the Southern California area.

Like, Will talking about his dad playing gigs at Disneyland on the Tomorrowland stage. I'm like, I don't know if this, does this track, it's like, in New York you get, like, a bunch of performance venues and, like, growing up there you get to, like, I don't know if this does this track. It's like in New York, you get like a bunch of performance venues and like growing up there, you get to like, whatever, like engage with live performance as much as you want and whatever you want. But I feel like in California, it's like you go to see theater in LA, but like, that's not like what LA is known for. Like, no, you go to Disney and then you see street performers or you see like people just performing live or even if they're just like slinging jokes at the Jungle Cruise.

Right. No, that was, and Knott's Berry Farm, another kind of watching performance moment. They had, well, I'm older than you guys, but I don't know if you guys remember the song Convoy. We got a great old convoy trucking on down the line it was a song i love it i just want to stop everything and say i love that that's my favorite song the guy's whole shtick was he was it was music for truckers and he had

this number one hit god we got a great old convoy i love it he was performing at Knott's Berry Farm. And I said to my dad, like, I got to go see the show. I just got to go. And so I sat there alone as a kid and watched and then found my, I gave him a standing ovation, like with the crowd. I was like, that was a damn good show. Yeah, because they're great. That's the thing about those people that perform is that they're great and and a lot of people that i know um you know they work at disneyland or you know i now that we now that people have listened to this podcast and they know that i like disney world so much and bone and i actually let them know when we're gonna be there we've met a bunch of people that perform there and they're awesome. Yeah. And it's funny that you bring up the Jungle Cruise skipper because you want to know when I was young. And Bowen knows this because I did a whole show about it when we were in New York.

I wanted to be a Universal Studios, the Jaws ride. The guy who was on the boat, like the skipper of the Jaws skipper, who is like, we're doing a tour of Amity. And this, I know every word. I'm literally off book on it. Not right now, but in theory I am. And of course, Jaws attacks the boat and he has to kind of be like, oh no! And fire a grenade launcher at like fake sharks

and like, you know, react to everything. But that was my whole dream for years as i when i was little i wanted to move there and be that and then years later i was i did it as a bit on stage where bowen played the shark yes and i had bowen played the shark and i was the skipper and i would just be wildly shooting and we would take members from the audience and we put them on the boat in the stage and i would be the skipper and bowen would come out at different points in UCB Chelsea and attack the boat. In shark costume? Do you have like a minimal shark costume?

Very minimal shark costume, but I mean, it was all in the performance. It was all in the vocal placement of, ah, you know, you're a screaming shark. But it was me. I played Jaws, but I had inherited the role from Anna Dresden who writes at SNL now.

Anna Dresden was the first shark when I did it at the People's Improv Theater. And she, I guess, was too busy to play the shark. And Bowen actually stepped in as the shark. And our friend Dave Mazzoni played the fire. And Anna got the boot. Anna never to play the shark again. Yeah, and she's actually not doing well now.

She's really not doing well now. She's out of work. When she looks back, she's actually not doing well now. She's really not doing well now. She's out of work. When she looks back, she knows where she made a mistake. She knows that she made a mistake there, but Bowen was an amazing shark. I don't know if you know this about Bowen, but he's an amazing performer. And he's explosive. He's so explosive. Explosive.

Yes. Yeah. And he comes out and he screams. The way he would scream at the audience members he was very scary well i'm sure they're not expecting it from bowen who seems calm cool and collected and the next thing you know shark attack yeah yeah there were really many times where i felt he was you know endangering the people on stage would you just vocalize what you felt like a shark should sound like, or would you just say, shark attack?

Well, this is the thing. When Matt says he's off book, he's not only off book, but he's synchronized to the actual track that plays on the vehicle. Oh my god, that's impressive. So he would play the track at UCB and it would, I would have to synchronize.

So you have to be ready to go you can't mess up yeah this was a choreographed blocked thing we rehearsed it yeah no we're not kidding this is really this is true this is very true and in the track jaws the shark screams like this is like okay prime whatever they thought a shark noise was they they put in there. It was like a Jurassic Park roar, which surely does not happen with sharks. But I had to sort of match my pitch, my tone to whatever was in the track. And I had to form audio cues, like internal, like self-made cues.

Like, oh, when there's a rustle at this, at like minute four, that's when I'll be in this position. Right, right, right. You know, Jaws famously has a very signature soundtrack. And so there's points in the music where Bowen would know this is where I enter stage left

and scream at the people that Matt's put in the boat. And also we should say there were also multi sort of like 4D elements where I would have buckets of water. I had a water gun. I would shoot and the audience would get wet. And I would actually, the show was called You Will Get Wet. And it is it is on YouTube I'm I'm checking that out as soon

as we're done here you must check it out it was in yes by the way it was a musical so this was not just a four minute sketch this is a long it started as a bit I was doing on stage where I just did the Jaws ride. And it was like, people would like book me for like a standup set. And I was like, cool. I need time in the space beforehand. Here are my tech.

I need... It became too much of a thing. It's too much. But I'm gonna do the show too. Yeah, so I did it like several times and then I was like, this will not sustain. I can't do this like on the scene. I must actually do it as part of its own show.

And so I wrote a show. It was called You Will Get Wet. It was all about a fictionalized version of myself wanting to be the Jaws boat skipper. And it culminated in the Jaws performance, which was my audition to get it. Amazing. And that's,

Bohm was incredible shark and he's gone on to do amazing things as a result of playing the show of you and so of you um but it's still it's still listed in your credits though right yes yes yeah yeah yeah yeah on my um i am bb yes i am broadway broadway database it was broadway you see me chelsea was broadway database yeah the broadway database well no but i mean i i do like this concept of like you like going to like as a destination performance like i'm gonna go see the guy who sings convoy um and like that's like that's like what like sparked something in you it was a bonus a pleasant surprise that, you know, whatever, June afternoon, I just happened to see that that performer was at the, you know, Silver Wagon showroom at Knott's Berry Farm.

Amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Before we do I Don't Think So, Honey, I want to ask about where you're placing. So, okay, so Big Money Players Network, new podcast network with iHeartMedia from Will. And thank you for producing us. And thank you for producing us. Thank you guys for coming on board.

This is a coup. A coup. A coup d'etat. A coup d'etat. A coup d'etat. A coup d'etat. Big time coup. And there's that moment we were talking about.

Making its way in. That's what we call callback in comedy. It's perfect. I feel like, okay, so I would say the flagship show is the Ron Burgundy podcast. And you have Carolina, who's your assistant, who's lovely, we've met. She's phenomenal, perfect.

But okay, but ron let's place ron like in in space time here so he is in the year 2020 he's he's in like yeah yeah but like but yeah he hasn't really aged since the 70s right no he hasn't aged he's kind of yeah he's stuck at whatever age he is. Call it a robust late 40s. Yeah, I would say. Yeah. And he's learning. He's learning so much about this world. He's trying to evolve.

Yeah. And he ping-pongs back and forth between... Sometimes he is incredibly enlightened. Yes. He's right with modern times and you kind of can't believe Ron's really this with it. And then other times he, of course, is hopeless. And poor Carolina suffers the brunt of a lot of Ron's misinformation.

Yeah. It's perfect in that Carolina is straight manning you, but also I feel like what Ron is going through is like a nice mental model. It's a nice blueprint for everybody to see, oh, I can be so far behind

on some things, but very, as you said, enlightened in others. And willing to learn, but prone to flare-ups and abusive language and abusive behavior. Yes. Which is not fair,

but he's always apologetic. Yes. I think that's what we got to take away. That's what we got to take. He's trying his best. Yeah. Ultimately. Now, where does Veronica Corningstone

exist in this universe? Are they still married? Has she moved on? Veronica isn't referenced that often. In fact, Ron is always talking about past girlfriends. It kind of makes no sense. And in fact, the last season, Ron had a relationship with S with sia yes oh right yes so for about two or three episodes he was dating sia which he sia did tell ron she was interested in hanging

out but then she had to break it off and um uh but i don, I don't think she was as serious about it as Ron was. I see. To be quite honest. And so he's a little broken hearted over that. Still? But he's technically still married, I think. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I would love to hear him discuss that. And Baxter's probably a hundred years old and. Baxter, been through so much. There's a lot of,

a lot of things are being bent in his reality. And this is not to say that the laws of physics even applied in the original movies. Right, right. But they definitely don't apply in the podcast. Of course. Why would they?

It's a looser medium. Right. Yeah. Of course. No, why would they? Yeah. Yeah. It's a looser medium somewhere. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Super loose. Yeah. It's probably the loosest

medium there is. You didn't think about it? Oh, amongst. Wow. Loose lips. Loose lips medium. You know? Loose lips medium.

That's actually the sister network of big money players. Loose lips medium. And I'm starting it. And it's only podcasts with mediums with yeah exactly yeah exactly i have theresa caputo uh uh she's the long island medium and i have at least 20 podcast pitches from her already already since i've said it yeah she already knew she was like i've been waiting for someone to say they had a podcast for mediums and And so she is ready to go. Ready to go.

Ready to go. They all, they sound, they sound okay. Okay. We're going to take a quick break and we're going to come back with. I don't think so, honey. Okay. Okay. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple.

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And we're back even. And we're back even. Okay, so I think it's time for I Don't Think So, Honey. For those of you who don't know, I Don't Think So, Honey is our one-minute segment where we take one minute to rail against something in culture. There's a lot going on. There's a lot to look forward to.

There's a lot to feel some There's a lot to look forward to. There's a lot to feel some dread around, I would say. There's a lot going on in the world. I have chosen a topic that is not necessarily, I would say, topical per se. Me neither. And I would say a lot of people might not even be thinking about this at all. And that's actually why I feel it's important

because in this time, something slipped through the cracks. Okay, good. And everyone, I, I'm ready now. I should just preface this by saying as a result of my bike accident two weeks ago, my phone is still shattered.

So Bowen, I will need you to do the timing. What was your bike accident? Well, well, what happened was, or should I not ask? Am I opening a can of worms?

No, I'm actually very open about my, my injuries. So I have flipped. I flipped over the bars, the bars. So I have- You flipped. I flipped over the bars. The bars. It was stupid too. I was riding my bike and I went to brake so I could put directions in my phone, which is just not a way you should behave in life.

Probably not. And I flipped over the front and landed on my elbow and wrist. Luckily, we're fine. I just have some, I've banged up a little bit. That's not so bad in the world of bike injuries. Yes. elbow and wrist luckily we're fine i just have some i've banged up a little bit that's that's not so bad in the world of bike bike injuries yeah my boyfriend said it looked like i was dead like he said that it was it was a kind of shocking that i didn't die and he sounds a little disappointed um but i i was um no i'm just kidding he he likes me uh but he uh was like i was so shocked that

you were able to get up because i'm also let me know how you are but i'm the kind of person that i freak out about little things like my internet will be cutting out every now and then like i can't get my netflix to work like it was a real um i had a real time trying to get uh sure eurovision to play because my internet was going in and out and that's the kind of shit that i lose my mind about but i flipped over the front scene of my handlebars on my bike and i was just like it's cool just like drive back and drive back with the car and come get me he's like it's crazy that you didn't freak out about that but like wait he had to pick you up

well we were far away from the house and so i was like just continue to ride on your bike i'm gonna sit here you get the car come back and he was like i can't believe you're being so measured because you're such a crazy idiot i was like well and was this it was this was not on such a busy road i take it it really wasn't we actually we were on we were on vacation we left la for a little while and it happened like far away in like the suburb area so i flipped over and i was like okay this wasn't like at a busy intersection or anything. Temecula. It was very it actually was very Temecula I would say. And I was about to say that.

Yeah. So anyway my Adam and his honey does not have to do with that though I do feel it's important if you care about it. Okay alright that's a good preface. This is Matt Rogers and his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The circus!

It's garbage. There's nuts everywhere on the damn floor. Clean it up. How come the circus is something people go to? Circus is, I'm going to say controversially, Eurovision without singing. Wow. Excuse me. You're expecting me to pay to watch someone flip over excuse me i

could turn in once a year every may and see someone do flips and also belt a high g sharp i bet you didn't think that note existed on the musical scales guess what bitch it do in europe yes i don't think so honey the circus i have to sit in what is a circle to watch something and oftentimes this is not an optimal way to watch things i like a theater bitch i like to be seated and watch the audience perform out staging wise i have problems with the circus now let's get real these animals are enslaved they need to become free i don't want to see an elephant in a big hat i want to see an elephant with no hat in the what african wilderness or wherever they live they also are in thailand if i'm to believe the many instagram photos i see from hashtag white people i don't think so honey

the circus and the enslavement of elephants and that's one minute and 17 seconds well i went a little over take that greatest showman and can i say the reason i'm even thinking about this is because we just watched the greatest showman the other night and i was like this is a circus of a film right right but i did enjoy it i did enjoy it i enjoyed it too yeah and some of the music is so damn good rewrite the stars it's a moment we love zendaya we love zach efron we wish he would do more musical things it's no double trouble it's no oh thank you it's no double trouble the song from if we're ranking duets in film

double trouble there's no double trouble gosh that was a tour de force there yes it really was yeah high praise high praise high praise i think it's a rule of culture the circus is just eurovision without singing that's rule of culture 97 9 i was gonna say 97 the circus is just eurovision without singing yes and i would also say like the circus would be better if someone came out at the end and we all devote on the different acts and there was like a sort of Eurovision moment of what's the best actress. Because I needed some competition at the circus. That's the way to bring the circus back is with the competition element.

Hundopi? Hundopi? I want to say that anything that's circus themed, I'm also not on board with. I'm watching Legendary, that ballroomroom show that voting show on hbo max the every episode is great my least favorite was the episode where they did a circus theme and i was like i don't care for any of this i i don't actually care for the aesthetic of a circus or the fact that i'm supposed to be transported to a circus setting i'm like i don't really this doesn't mean anything to me well circuses have dark have dark origins. Of course. We should say that. And also, P.T. Barnum was not

this magician that we all think. He had hashtag problems. But he was very handsome. He was very handsome and very convincing. According to Greatest Showman, he was very handsome. I mean, if you looked at anything like Hugh Jackman. Have you ever met Hugh Jackman? Yeah, I met him a couple times.

Delightful. Is it something to behold? It is. Yeah. He actually hosted the show when I was there. yeah i met him a couple times delightful is it something to behold it is yeah yeah he actually hosted the show when i was there and we did a uh oh yeah i bet back in his wolverine days yeah exactly he's got pipes he's got the pipes for real oh he's he's speaking of pipes i was just going to mention remember that era when all the pop star girls were doing circus themed things like britney spears had circus pink had fun house there was like this era where all the pop stars were like in circuses yes i think it's ongoing maybe it is it's great to think about that there was uh wasn't there cbs's evening of of the, and they would do, they would act, they would train and do circus acts.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like a thing. It was like, we're going to watch, you know, Amy Brenneman do the... Exactly. Yeah, Amy Brenneman's going to do the trapeze. The stars of CBS shows would then...

Yeah, they would put them in circus scenarios. So that happened. I forgot about that. Yeah, it's put them in circus scenarios. So that happened. I forgot about that. Yeah, it's almost like the entertainment industry thinks the circus is a thing it can bring back sort of like variety shows or something. Hey. Were you ever Cirque du Soleil people at all?

Do you have any appreciation for that? By the way, I auditioned. I tried to audition for Cirque du Soleil. What? For Cirque? You know what you'd be good at blue man group i oh i that would be something that would be a limited run of blue man group i think that you would be really good in a blue man group the i i kid you not the guy on the left is will ferrell how do you know i swear he was on las culturistas he was talking about wanting to do a run on Blue Man Group, and I swear that's him.

It would be very good. That'd be very meta. That'd be very meta. No, I don't know. I think they'd be happy. I think that your top credit from now on should be Las Culturistas. Is that okay? Okay, number one.

Yeah. I'll just listen. All right, cool. We'll talk to you about that. I wanted to ask before that became canon. Bowen Yang, I think it might be time for you to do it i don't think so okay all right this is bowen yang's i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey family size anything yeah you don't know my life go for it don't know my life. Don't know my life, and family-sized something is on the opposite spectrum

of meals for one in the frozen aisle. Do not try to push this nuclear family narrative on me. Don't try to shape my lifestyle into something that I don't want or am not ready for quite yet. So, let me buy the small, reasonably-priced

bag of hot Cheetos. Let me buy the small, reasonably priced bag of hot Cheetos. Let me buy the big bag, actually the moderately sized bag of pizza rolls when I'm shopping at the grocery store. Grocery stores, as we know, are basically the most perilous, dangerous, precarious places in the world right now. Do not psychologically attack me further

with this ideological nightmare that you are trying to graft onto my lifestyle, bitch. I'm going to be single and I might own two dogs, one ferret who doesn't smell because of what? Genetic modification. Thank you.

That's one minute. And I have to say family style is a psychological ideological attack. And it's funny that it And I have to say, family style is a psychological, ideological attack. And it's funny that it's great that we say that. It's important that we say that. When you are a family style restaurant or food product service, it's an ideological attack. I've never thought of it that way 100% in agreement. Thank you.

There's no reason for it. It's normative and we don't need it. Pizza should be personal only. And that's actually rule of culture number 60. Pizza should be personal only. Four little slices. Anything else is normative family style ideological attack. Even though when I go to a restaurant,

I always ask if that can be served family style, whatever I'm eating. I will say I like family style at restaurants. Even if you're not in a family. This is a betrayal. Hans, our producer, just said, I love family style. Get the fuck out of here. No one asked you.

Head of content, Hans. Who the hell asked you, head of content, Hans? He is HFC. HFC. He is HFC. And I mean, HFC Hans can actually take several seats because no one asked him. No one asked him. Why did he have to chime in? I have to say, I think we've discussed this on the pod before, but it's true.

It's like family style. You know, when, and I am talking about restaurants. I'm sorry. I'm going to go there. But you order family style. It's usually one person deciding everything that gets ordered. And then you'll see. Yeah.

No. Oh, Hans also says anti-family stylist, anti-immigrant. That's true. Get the fuck out of here. No one asked you. Oh, my God. But how is it anti-immigrant? Because family style is.

Bow and tell him, Hans says. Okay. Okay. Okay. So the idea of like single plate, single serve is very much like, I would say, I would say it's kind of like, not even a European concept, but it feels like an American concept. Whereas if you like eat family style, it's like, oh, this is just, this is how a lot of, this is how a lot of like immigrant cultures around the world eat. And so, you know, and the fact that we have to even call it family style to differentiate it from the norm is kind of, you know, it's otherizing language. I don't mean to get all this SJW about this, but that's my thing.

I actually have an announcement to make. Okay. Yeah. As a result of this conversation and the exchange of ideas i've changed and i now have come to a place where i realized that family style is the only way that we should be eating at restaurants and absorbing food and time together and i want to apologize for recent comments in which i in which i called family style not good. End of statement. I actually think, too, this could be transcendent into a new

positive euphemism. Like, hey, what's up, y'all? Let's... Family style, right? Yes, that's really good. I don't know what it specifically is about, but yeah. The new title of this episode is Family Style.

What was it previously? I don't remember. Drop Out of School Kids. Well, I don't know. I do want to send that message out. It's pretty explicit in the episode. I think the title Family Style is nice. It's inviting. It's so short. I want to point out, Matt, that

turn right there, that was not only spectacular, that was very Ron Burgundy. Very, like, you know, self-examining. What I aspire to be? I aspire to be late 20s gay Ron Burgundy, and I say that as a

30-year-old man. Yes, yes. Thank you. Will, I think it's time for Will to do I Don't Think So Honey. It's time for Will! Oh, gosh. Okay. Okay, Will, you're gonna nail.'t Think So Honey. It's time for Will. Oh, gosh. Okay. Okay, Will, you're going to nail. You're going to nail. It's going to be great.

I'm just supposed to launch into it, right? You're supposed to launch into it. Here we go. We're going to kick you off. This is Will Ferrell's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Let's talk about Lady G, okay?

Let's talk about Senator Lindsey Graham from the great state of South Carolina. Let's talk. You can't show up with the beautiful blonde hair and the poofy hairdo and not be Lady G. No, you're Lady G. You are full on Lady G. He's Lady G. And just let it all go. Let it go.

Let it go. 30 seconds. And you will become a folk hero. You won't be allowed back in South Carolina. That's fine. But you will be trumpeted.

You will be heralded in New York, LA, Miami, Philadelphia. 15 seconds. Any major city in America and people will bow down

to you, Senator Lady lady g five seconds and that's what i don't think so i agree so so that's one minute i have to say i personally will never forgive him for doing the things that he's done but i will say if he wants come hang out, he can go sit in the corner of the bar over there. But that's the thing. He could go sit in the corner, and he could do a Lady G tour, and he could go, hey, you guys are right.

I was wrong about this. I was wrong about that, and I was wrong, but I was too scared to just step out and be who I really am. Yeah and uh that would be a powerful thing now for people his his his generation who may be struggling in the same way i think that perhaps it would be very powerful it would be because i think that's an epidemic absolutely i would say that in order for lady g to be fully redeemable in my eyes,

he would have to do something to rescind the Brett Kavanaugh appointment, I think. I think he was like... Well, he would... Yeah, he'd have to come clean on a list, a whole list of things. Yes. That goes without saying.

That can only be addressed in a one-man show, I think. Oh, yes. I think he has to come out in a one way show Lady G what's that Lady Day the Audra McDonald play that she won a Tony for it has to be that but Lady G that's the only way I can forgive Lindsey Graham

is if he does Lady G at Emerson's Bar and Grill Lady G at the Turkish Baths Lady G at the Russian Baths and it has to be storytelling with songs, with songs. And then I can talk about forgiving Lady G. It would be the first step in forgiveness. Yeah.

And I should say, I'm not buying a ticket to the show. But he still has to do the show. Yeah. Right. As part of the many steps. Yeah. Yeah. Just start with the show.

Start with a one-man show and then we'll talk and then we'll we can begin a dialogue maybe begin a dialogue per chance per chance wow yeah i'm i was gobsmacked at the platinum blonde yeah here's the thing i mean there's there's a lot there's a lot going on there especially during quarantine who's getting their hair worked on i mean look what's happening here. That looks great. Here's the thing. That's what gays in crisis do.

They go platinum blonde. So to watch him sort of live that out. Is that a telltale sign? Yes. Absolutely. Yes. All the messes in my life, you see them go platinum blonde the second. The second things start going south so to see him

like in the midst of like the gop i hope finally finally tanking in front of our eyes to see him go platinum on the world stage it's just two on the nose it's two on the nose yeah yeah yeah and that's actually going to be the opening number two on the nose on the nose what's two on the nose me i'll tell you what's two lady g lady g lady g yeah that's i i think that's actually a really good opening number and i think it would it would rival all that jazz as the great opening numbers of our time. Oh yeah, for sure. Is there any way to figure out who coined the moniker Lady G? Well, supposedly that's his self-anointed name. No, no, no, no.

It's not self-appointed. It's the sex workers that he allegedly hired. Oh, that's right. Began calling him Lady G in order to refer to him without saying senator lindsey graham of south carolina because they would be nervous about a paper trail this is the thing though is this is the thing that's wrong with um the uh allegations is that there's a lot of conflicting and contradicting information where what i read was lady g was what he wanted

the sex workers to call him i feel that's see that's a bridge too far for me that he was like not only am i closeted but i'd like to be referred as lady g i think he'd make up some boring name artist formerly known as lady g yeah well now if and i feel bad if lady g is what he did want to be called and now he kind of like has had that taken away from him actually just kidding I don't feel bad well it's just fascinating if he's just stuck

and cannot doesn't have the courage to kind of you know look I mean that it's really dark and sad and I actually I mean then you get to all this how do you pronounce it is it Matt Getz oh yeah right right right this stuff with the 19 year old quote-unquote son i just i just learned about that yesterday i i literally don't think so honey yeah yeah no there's a lot going on and i i always feel like um the people that feel the need to be the most publicly disparaging about

a certain group, you have to wonder what their complex is about that group. You know, it's like with this kind of, all this talk about, you know, LGBT rights and, you know, with the Supreme Court doing what they've done recently, it's like seeing people and thinking about people that would stand against that. It's like, what is your damage, man? Like, what is your deal? Why do you need to step in the way of someone's job being protected? And they always bring it back to,

well, people should have control over who they hire. And it's like, what? This is such a redirection from what the issue is, which is equality and fair treatment. So you have to wonder about these people that are the most vocal about an issue and that's this is i'll stop short of saying more but like if someone out there is the most vocal about an issue and really makes themselves a figurehead i always think we have to kind of question that that person like what's the deal yeah well you and i, are most vocal about Eurovision Song Contest, the story of Fire Saga. And our complex is that we love it. We hope everyone sees it June 26th.

The segue of the year. That was incredible. I was going to say my damage is that we weren't in it. We weren't in it. Masterful. Yeah, that's... Well, what the fuck was up with that? That's our bad.

That's our... That's my full Lady G I pulled. That's your Lady G. Yeah. That was you were too afraid to put us in it because you knew we would shine bright. Totally. Exactly.

You knew we would shine too bright. I'm going to have to redeem myself. You will. I have a way you can do that. Can you publicly state right now that me and Bowen should be cast as the eels in Flotsam and jetsam in the little mermaid movie that's all we want i want to go on record that matt rogers and bowen

should be cast as the eels flotsam and jetsam yes in the upcoming little Mermaid movie. And there's kind of no other choice. I don't think there is. I don't think there's another choice. And what you've done there has redeemed you. And I want to say it goes a long way. Oh, just like that. Yeah, it's done. It's done.

It's that fast. I feel 10 pounds lighter. It's like my family style moment. It's like, this is your family style moment. 100%. We've got a lot of redemption on the pod today. Wow. It's like, this is your family style moment. 100%. We got a lot of redemption on the pod today. Wow. That's good.

Well, Will Ferrell, thank you so much for coming on the podcast. So great to talk to you. And you guys are so smart and funny and really creative. And it's just fun to finally be on here. And great that you guys were willing to come on the platform. And no joke, you were one of the first ideas we thought of. And that was Carolina was like, you have to listen to Las Culturistas. And then iHeart was like, we already know who these guys are. So it's just great to kind of formally get to hang out. Totally. And we wish we could do it

in person. We will. You'll be back. I think we should hang out in Bowen and we wish we could do it in person we will you'll be back i think we should hang out in bowen's yellow room there my parents my parents basement okay yep that's where we have to do it they would love that i think that i think they would actually really respond to that idea to be honest for sure um well likewise thank you for everything you've done making us uh laugh all these years and for having us on this platform thank you for everything you've done, making us laugh all these years, and for having us on this platform. Thank you so, so much. And the movie's great.

We love you, Will. We close out every episode with a song. We close out each and every episode with a song. Okay, great. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Woke up at night. Volcano man. Volcano man.

You guys. Volcanic protector Volcano land. Volcano land. Oh. I just like the soundtrack. Sorry, guys. Stream the soundtrack, and by the time this comes out, everyone's going to know it. Word perfect.

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