Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Fire Is Family" (w/ Parvati Shallow)

Episode Date: May 20, 2020

Deep breath. In through one nostril, out through the other. BECAUSE! Today is the ~actual~ day. Bowen and Matt's Survivor moment reaches its epic conclusion with superhero Parvati Shallow's long-awaited appearance on Las Culturistas! The legendary winner, fresh off the recent iconic season Winners At War, is on the pod to tell all about her experiences on the show, as well as off. Parv gets into it about what it's like to see yourself edited into a villainous reality TV archetype, and how that experience caused her to make positive changes in her life. Also, insight into just how difficult the Edge of Extinction actually is and how it inspired her new children's book Om the Otter, available now on Articulation Books. All that Survivor goodness, and: can you even believe that Parv stans Mariah?! The girls get into 90's R&B on this episode of Las Cultch that truly has everything! WE LOVE PARV. And we love you! xo  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Gracias Come Again on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The last culturista's calling. Bowen Yang, when I opened up my eyes this morning, the very first thing I did was let out a squeal. You squealed. You phonated like an excited sound. At a high pitch, like a seal or something. I can hear it. I can hear it now.

Wow. Talk me through. Well, I've just been so excited because this is a moment. Well, first of all, we should both say that we're both on her free seven day course. And very much enjoying it. In fact, I i recently i was talking to a friend the other day and they were having an issue and i specifically used a tool that i used from our guests um exercises that was very helpful and she's told me that it was very helpful for her and we'll get into it because i am genuinely like very inspired and like feel moved in the right direction by

seeking out this person's content outside of what she is best known for yes now here's actually the deal if you don't watch survivor you may not be aware of our guests but if you do watch survivor this is a legendary moment for this podcast and beyond yeah yeah it's it's a big deal and again she was asking us if we not not i't say fair weather viewers, but she was asking us, do we watch every season? And we had to sort of level with her and be like, well, really quarantine has accelerated us on the syllabus that is her seasons of Survivor first and foremost as like the nucleus. And then we just sort of branch out into other ones.

And then, you know, it's the honest truth, but it's impacted us in such a way in that moment we had to level with her we had to say look have we watched every season every year no but has quarantine pushed me into so far into the fandom that it is a concern for those around me including my loved one jared frieda my boyfriend he said to me he came over the house um about two weeks ago and we were watching, I think, Kageyan, the incredible season. Incredible. And we finished the season and I was like, wow, that was amazing. And he was like, I don't think I can watch another episode. Like we've watched like 10, 15, a thousand in a row.

And I said, okay, well then I don't think it's too late for you to go home. And he had to go at that point because it's, it's been so what's kept me together yeah during this quarantine i think everyone has these has little things like maybe people are doing creative creative outlets i find that i'm so busy outside of quarantine that i'm using this as a i found survivor and it was so like my north star and i forgot what an incredible television show it was on every level and i pointed out to you and your journey has been one I've been very excited to watch. Yes, yes. All of it has revolved around our guests, I should say.

And, you know, we kind of mourn that the journey is sort of at its end, we should say. It's been resolved for her, but it's what we'll talk about it. Well, it's truly there are moments that are are shakespearean you and i have talked about in every season there's at least one scene that's like how was that not a written dialogue but there's but i think my favorite well let's just bring her into this we gotta bring her in and i i'm i have the credits and then we will talk all things with our guests so like i said widely considered to be one of the best Survivor contestants of all time. After placing sixth on Survivor Cook Island, she returned to Survivor Micronesia fans versus favorites and won the title of sole survivor. And in the process of doing so, made iconic moves that are talked about to this day.

Then a couple seasons later, came back with probably the biggest target on her back anyone's ever had and still managed to come in second arguably we can argue that she should have won that season i am in that camp i'm sure she is as well but i'm sure she's made peace with it or i hope that she has we'll discuss it and then she just competed in the recent iconic season winners at war the survivors 40th season outside of that she's an internationally renowned yoga teacher life coach motivational speaker incredible human overall that we are so thrilled to have and host and um author of a children's book on the otter you can get an articulationbooks.com which mine is on the way. I actually bought the limited edition signed version.

I'm going to buy the signed version for Allie, for my niece. Yes, and I'm giving it to Raymond, Jared's nephew. Oh, that's so sweet. After I read it, of course. Yes. Because I feel, and I really want to talk about the book because I heard about the genesis of the book, and I really want to dig into that. Yes, we will. And so much else.

And so much else. So so everyone please welcome into your ears hello hi parv oh my god guys i'm so excited to talk to you i feel like i just won an academy award by that introduction thank you honestly you are a bigger star to me than julia roberts herself and that's he means that and i feel that you that you are the Julia Roberts of Survivor in many ways. You know, we're both from Georgia. So that's cool. So where in Georgia are you from? I grew up in Marietta, Georgia.

Marietta. That's not far from, that's North Atlanta? No. Yeah, it's like 30 minutes north of Atlanta. Okay, got it, got it. So my sister's in Dunwoody, so I'm going to send her on the otter in Dunwoody.

And it's going to be a full circle thing. Oh my God, what a great gift. I'd like to go and just knock on her door and read the story to her personally. Honestly, I think the Yang would be moved by that. By that one. I love the idea of the book. Can you talk a little bit about the book

and also about what was the idea of the book can you talk a little bit about the book and like also about what was the idea for how or how it came to be okay so it's kind of funny because i had to leave my 10 month old baby yeah little girl to go back and play survivor season 40 which was winners at war which as you mentioned was an iconic season all 20 like of the greatest winners of all time come together to battle it out so i'm like oh the fomo is so real if i don't go back you're gonna regret this for my whole life yeah so i go back and voted out promptly at a swap that did not go well for me a mess but had nothing to do with you could it have been worse it was so bad it could have been worse but i we can talk about

this but i we feel the deck was stacked against you and also the old school players but just in terms of numbers and in terms of the personalities like the wendell of it all just sort of like irks me still to this day the wendell of it all the wendell of it all okay the wendell of it all truly bothers us because i also thought michelle could have been thrown a vote and wendell that was where you were supposed to come in exactly yeah if he was really there for his girl ride or die let's talk about that anywho i was voted off and then i had to go um thrive on the edge of extinction which is just it was like a zombie paradise really like tyson was a walking dead danny is just shriveling away so everyone over there she really had she had it looks like she had a hard time

yeah yeah it didn't go well for danny either and ethan my dearest darling friend ethan who survived cancer twice is sitting down next to me saying this is worse than cancer oh my god no ethan no oh my god but did you guys get at least one day in ponderosa like what was the deal there yeah i mean once the game is over then you get to go i think it's day 36 then they put us all in a speedboat and we speed over to ponderosa and eat our faces off and drink lots of champagne but before that you're on the edge and like how bad is it because i feel like we see like we we get cut twos of like it you living like sort of like a very bad life there but i don't think they get into like just how bad it is it's like demoralizing already to

get voted off yeah so you feel like if you it depends on how you were voted off so my vote off wasn't a total blindside. I saw it coming. So it wasn't that big of a punch in the face. But it depends. So you get voted off. You already feel bad about yourself. And then you're on this island of other rejects who are it's like Loser Island.

You're in purgatory. And the food situation is so bleak where we would have to walk over like slippery rocks where the tide would come up and climb up a mountain and like a mountain of staircases and then all the way up to the highest peak. And then you'd get this tiny portion of rice and then you have to bring it all the way back down over the slippery rocks. And then you have to build a fire. So you have to gather your firewood. You have to do everything that's required to start your fire. And then you cook the rice. By the time you cook it it you're like fully emaciated all right like you've already burned off all the calories you were going to get from that little handful of rice and sometimes the tide would be

up too high so production would be like you can't go right now to go get your rice sorry and so your sol in terms of food you just do not get it yeah which is why peanut butter factored in such a huge way this season. Yeah, it was hugely popular peanut butter on the edge. It seemed to be the dish of choice. Banana from the gods. It was crazy. Peanut butter is a huge success here on the edge.

I mean, you guys have no idea. It looked chunky. It was a chunky ass peanut butter. It was so chunky. It was like Costco. It was like you went to Costco, you bought a peanut butter jar bigger than your head. And it was like heaven. It's like heaven on earth.

Yeah. Because there's nothing to do there. And so the peanut butter situation became an extra layer of the game. Yeah. It was reward, basically. There was no reward challenges. There's no challenges on Edge of Extinction. There's nothing.

You're just, it's like quarantine, but you're also starving yeah wow okay thank you for putting into perspective that was another thing well and so you're there and ethan is saying he's miserable he's like like feels like he's like truly like going through it all over again and it's like messing with him yes so i sit down and i talk to ethan yeah i'm like i'm there with my buddy and i'm just like are you gonna pull the flag are you out of here and he's like i can't do it i can't like what would my community think like i can't be a quitter and i was like all right we're gonna get your mind right we're gonna keep you positive i invite him to do yoga with me we're meditating every day just to have a momentary reprieve from the desolation of our present situation. And it was super helpful. So when I got home, I wanted to offer a gift to

my daughter for having been gone for over a month and a half. And so I sat down and I write this story, Om the Otter, and it's really inspired by my time with Ethan on the Edge of Extinction where it's like I'm basically embodying Om the Otter where he's just this adorable, playful, fun little, you know, not to like say all these great things about myself, but I love Otters. Om is like hot. Om is like

really like looking stunning. Om is running down the beach. Om is an icon. Om is a cultural icon. He's wearing his high top sneakers. His crystal necklace. And he's like, let me show you what's up. So he runs down and he sees his buddy Davu, who's a dingo from Down Under.

Of course. And that's Ethan. And Davu's looking sad. And Om just pulls up next to Davu. And he's like, here, I'm going to share with you. I'm going to be with you, be present with you. I'm going to breathe with you. We're going to have a moment where you can start to let go of this, you know, sadness or whatever you're feeling and start to become present with your own heart and start to let your mind lift.

And there's breathing techniques through the book so it was just it was fun to kind of work through that whole like edge experience with ohm and davu and then also bring it back for my daughter because she's outrageous she's almost two years old and she does not stop moving she's challenge she's training for a challenge constantly she's looking for adventure like her mom yeah definitely i have my work cut out for me with her so we sit together and she'll do the breathing techniques in the book. That's so great. Great.

And I'm like, oh, this is really rad. So I just want every other parent and family to have this experience with their kids. Yeah. What I love the most, and I thought about it like this morning as I woke up, I was like, oh, I love the language around OM helping a friend with difficult feelings. Not like good or bad, not bad feelings or not feelings that are qualified by like shame or anything, but just like feelings that are just hard that you have to sort of sort through and label and figure out. And then but that's that just generalizes in a way where it's like you can you can just do these exercises no matter what you're feeling. And hopefully it gives you some reprieve.

Yeah. And I wanted to make it really clear that it's not the kid's responsibility to make it better for the other person. Right. So the OM isn't trying to like make it better for Davu. He's simply sitting with him and being with him as Davu has this hard, difficult emotional experience and then om offers him this um golden egg which is basically like a like a magical kind of trinket where dog can hold it and start to become more and more present with his own breath and his own sensations in his body so he can start to let go of those difficult feelings himself but it's not the kid's responsibility to make it better that and that's actually really important i also love that it just really

stresses this, the power of being a good friend and being there physically or emotionally with that person. And I just, that really resonated with me when I read what it was about, because I remember I had like a tough moment a few years ago where I had like an anxiety attack after getting off a plane and I was with a friend and I'll just never forget. We weren't like super close friends, but she just sat with me and breathed with me. And I'll never forget that experience of like someone just being there for me. And so I love that the book is gonna instill that

in really young kids because that is such a formative time. So just that compassion being instilled, that was, I love that. Yeah, and people don't know what compassion means. No, they do not. These days, girl, the children have forgotten compassion. The adults have forgotten compassion. Yes, well, we actually refer to all the adults as the children these days.

The children is everybody so i i have to ask you like so because after becoming such a fan of you on the show and then finding like your content offline and now being influenced by you in this way it really feels like two different people sometimes like the parvati that they have created in the edit who is this you know winner of survivor who like used her wiles and like was cut throat and like then got put on the villains tribe and still clawed her way alongside russell like you know what i mean and even controlled russell the biggest bad villain of all and then i had to wonder would you think that part of seeing yourself depicted that way what did that do to you like what's it like to watch yourself characterized

on television like with the music underneath you and all that like what does that do what is their dissonance is like does it does it sort of like go against the ways that you self-identify that is such a good question y'all going deep girl this is last culture east us and we're happy to have you we want to ask all the questions i love love it. Yeah. I mean, it's really such an interesting question. And, you know, for most people, you go through your life, you don't have to rewatch yourself back and Heroes Villains, I was in my 20s, which was a huge. I don't know about you guys, but for me, it was like I was creating my identity at that time. Can confirm. Yeah.

It's like, who am I? I don't know. Let me just try something and see how it goes. So I was like, oh, I'll just, you know, I'll use what I know, which was flirting. And I was working as a bartender and waitressing. And I got tips through charming people and flirting. That's how I made money. So I just used that same exact thing on Survivor and they turned me into this like black widow,

diabolical, like crush all the men, rip their hearts out and eat them alive and all those things. And I watched it and I was like, oh, is, am I really that? So it was kind of a identity crisis for me where I was like, wait, do I even know who I am? I actually have no idea because I thought that I was a really like kind and generous and fun person. I mean, I know that I have certain talents in the male department at this point in my life. But ultimately, they will do what we say. Right.

You know what I'm talking about. So, yeah, it was a huge like moment for me of kind of an awakening that was like, oh, well, is this who I want to be moving forward? And is there some way to create more depth in my life? And how am I going to do that? And where is this going to lead me? So it really woke me up to start asking a lot of questions of myself of, if I keep going in this direction, where do I end up? And I didn't want to be like this alcoholic, real housewife

who just cared about my Louis Vuitton bags and it wasn't it's not me sure yeah so I had a I had a moment where I was like I don't I didn't like the backlash that I was getting I didn't like how they portrayed me as like just running people over and not caring especially guys and I was like i'm gonna do something about this so i just i got into yoga i got into meditation i started going to therapy guys i mean i've really been on a journey of self-discovery i think survivor put me on this path i really feel that from from you and so that's why i'm so happy and excited to talk to you about it because i was really thinking about how even when so after you win micronesia

you are now not only do you have like the image that they've created of you but you're also well known as one of the best players of the game deservedly so i mean micronesia i think is like up there with some of the most masterful plays in terms of season long yeah the way you won was just so incredible so not only do you have the reputation for being good but you also have this reputation for being a character so when you go back to heroes versus villains did you find yourself sort of playing the character or did you find yourself playing the game how did that sort of negotiate i always go in to play the game first and foremost i it's funny because i go out on the island and then I kind of forget that the cameras

are around because I get so absorbed into this game. And at that point, I was reading the 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Persuasion. I was like, I have to know all of these tactics in order to win this game. Because at that point in Survivor's history, it was all about social dynamics. It was more social, yeah. It's changed a lot now. There's more advantages and unexpected twists. So you can't really rely.

Yeah, something falls out of the sky and it's like, this is a super idol, which is good for the rest of the game. It's insane. You're like, what? What is happening? What happened to people talking? Yeah, well, they've really fast-tracked it.

Jeff Probst is now the executive producer, and he loves throwing more twists and turns into the game. See how the contestants will handle it. Yeah. We actually love Jeff Probst in this house. We respect and stan. But the fact of the matter is, I feel like what would have been fun for season 40

is if they had gone all the way back to basics. No idols, no nothing. But you have a purist mindset matt that's yeah yeah turns out the new school players wouldn't have done as well if that was the case sure no well i mean i what i like about survivor i'm going to generalize but for the most part it seems like the the way it treats its players and the way it treats the people you see on screen it it doesn't it leaves them with their dignity in a way it's not like let's say and this is not the best one-to-one comparison but it's not like a bachelor bachelorette situation where it's like people

are like abjectly humiliated in some in some way shape or form at some point like it feels like everybody on survivor and what i what i like about it tonally is that it's not it's not a show that's meant to embarrass anybody or bring them to their load to be like to bring them down so low and so i feel like i don't know i just really respect the show for giving people an opportunity to just like evaluate the narrative that they see being produced of themselves and then being like okay well i can either accept that or i can um balance it with what i know to be true within myself does that make sense yeah and the thing is with survivor too is you go in as a contestant you have to if you want to win then you have to go in considering all the multiple layers of game that you're playing yeah yeah so you have your own okay so

nature is one rival. Basically you have, you're going to be pushed to your edge physically. You have no food, very little food. You have like really gross well water. That's so yucky and has a very distinct survivor flavor that you, I hope never have to taste. And then you're sleeping in the dirt.

I mean, there was one scene where I had a spider on my head at night, which is like, Oh, I wish they wouldn't have showed me that because I have to live with that forever. It's been invading my dreams. I know. So there's nature.

And then you also have like your own body. How does your body react when you don't have any food? Like, I don't know about you, but I get hangry. Yeah. And other people don't think straight when they're pushed to the edge like that physically. And then in addition to that, you have the other contestants that you're playing with. So you never know.

They always cast for people that are from totally different realms of life. So they want to have as much drama and conflict as possible without having to produce it or create it because they don't script anything. No, right. And then you have the challenges and the actual gameplay and then you have the idols and the actual gameplay and then you have the

idols and then you have jeff probst who is either on your side or not on your side and you can feel that as a contestant you feel like you do yeah yeah wow i think he loves you now but in the in the beginning he was like she's an archetype oh my gosh you're so perceptive matt wow well i mean let's say this he's come a long way because i actually was really impressed with him calling himself out on the finale of uh winners at war because and that whole discussion was really well worth having at this point the lacina discussion i think was like a beautiful encapsulation of like the progress that he's made i think oh yeah well i mean the thing is with survivor is very masculine dominant and it's so oriented to honor and

celebrate the masculine in everyone right so the women that are given the most time on screen and in the game is the women who are crossfit dominating. The warriors. Yeah. It's not like this soft, you know, Kim and I go back and we're like crying about our babies. They never show that. Wow. We have to,

Kim Spradlin. Give it up for Kim. Kim Spradlin. This is the thing. People, people actually overlook One World and they have to watch One World because A, Kim Spradlin is one of the best winners ever. And B, that season is serving you comedy. You cannot believe some of these people live in the world.

Bowen, you haven't seen One World. I haven't seen One World yet. This young girl, Colton, that they have on the show. Oh, my word. Wow. You love a Colton. Anyone named a Colton. That's actually rule of culture number 75.

You love a girl named Colton. Anyone named Colton. Anyone named colton anyone named colton anyone in colton okay but this is this is can i just say really quickly now this is the scene that i was referencing earlier before we brought poverty on but to go back to your point about it being this like male masculine game um yes this my favorite moment one of my favorite moments in like all of tv i want to say i would agree To be hyperbolic. It's so good. This is Micronesia. Season 16, episode 11.

Ewan James. Come on, bibliography. Come on. Ewan James. No, impressive, right? The girl did the research. This is the apple eating conversation. Did you write that down? No, I just indexed it.

We're obsessed with the show now. You know what I mean? We've just recently found it again. And so I both bowen and i have like a little bit of addictive personalities so now i i'm what i'm being a completionist about it and when he was watching that season we were texting each other saying that exchange between you and james is so it it really boils it down to like that dynamic of like James looking at you like, I really expected better from you almost.

And you being like, well, I don't understand why I can't play the game the same way that you can. And also it's funny that you wouldn't expect me to play the game as well as you. Yes, and it's the way that you are talking to, like arguably one of the most physically capable players ever on the show.

James is superhuman. Yeah. It's wild. You can tell, you can tell, but it's just, it's just the, and this,

this is the thing that we're saying. It's like, this is out of like a Madman episode. It's like, there's always going to be someone who bites the apple. Why can't you just leave the apple alone and enjoy the heavens? Yeah. Well,

hopefully you stay around. Hopefully. Sorry. Sorry. Because you, hopefully you stay around. Hopefully. Sorry. Sorry. Because you, because you wouldn't give me credit for having a plan anyway. What a, what an exchange.

And then also then, then how he is like, you basically call that out and you're like, you think that I'm stupid. You think you, you have an assumption about me. That's not true. And then he's like,

no, I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I said you were selfish. It's like, well, you have to examine the whole way that you have he got got he got and i feel like he got got and also ozzy got got and the way that he spoke to you what did it feel like the way he spoke to you

at that tribal council oh my god was brutal and what you didn't see what did not make the edit is ozzy stood up and asked me to do an interpretive dance yes i heard about this for how it felt to have been to have betrayed a friend over greed was it a thing where he wanted to humiliate you sorry yeah yeah okay for sure he literally said dance for me that's the that's that's that was his where he was at no right well and i think honestly it just it does show the evolution of the game now. Because people didn't respect my game before. And it took a while for people to start to become fans of me and of how I played and how we'd gotten the women together and done some really incredible things that had never been done in the history of Survivor before. But we didn't get any credit.

I certainly didn't have any accolades until probably years afterwards, where the culture, I think, has shifted enough where women are now given more respect for having intelligence and a strategic mind and really being willing to be brave and challenge the status quo and not have to bow down and play this nice girl role so i'm glad if i helped kind of lay some bricks there because i know girl power we got to get up and take stands for ourselves you really did and also in the casting of heroes versus villains and how they put put the tribes together i'm like this is so interesting to me that and this it's like weird to qualify people as that anyway because

survivor the just in the inherent like tenants of the game it's like you have to be both of those things in different moments and it's about that complexity in the gameplay so they put you on the villains tribe meanwhile amanda and sari are put on the heroes tribe alongside some other people where i was like is candace a hero that's interesting to me never thought about it like that actually at this point she mutinied on cook islands made out with adam like hello no not cute but here's what happened to in survivor they with casting it's so funny because they have these themes like they'll cast people and then they'll be like oh well we got to make a theme right right right and so they just put this theme together here's versus done it's like okay now we have

to make our cast fit this theme how are we gonna do that so you can tell which typically you can tell which team or tribe you're gonna be on based on the color that you are allowed to have from wardrobe so they i they made me get blue for everything like blue grays whatever like cool colors yeah so i had that gray top i had this like blue bikini and the night before the game starts they're like i had a yellow bikini for press photos because you have to have two bikinis one for press one for the game yeah so i'm had a yellow bikini for press photos because you have to have two bikinis, one for press, one for the game. So I'm wearing a yellow bikini for my press photos. They're like, you're going to need to wear your yellow bikini for the game. And I was like, oh, weird.

They swapped me and Candace the day before. They put me on the villains tribe. And you know why? It's because they didn't want you working with your girls. Exactly. And I mean, there were four of us from Micronesia on that tribe it was James, Amanda, and Serif I would have been there

Natalie was also on deck right that season Natalie deserved better she's really very crafty I think if the story of the whole of Micronesia is like you and the way that you really put together that alliance from bringing Alexis and Natalie in and also with Ceri and Amanda and just the expert way that you did that, I think that an underdog for story of that season is the way that Natalie played.

Because I think Natalie Bolton deserved more. And I know that she was like on the island for heroes versus villains was you're really going through the archives girl I'm going deep down the rabbit hole yeah deep she was in Ponderosa so the place that we hang out before the game starts they call it Ponderosa and so you're there for probably three four or five days kind of just not talking to anyone because you're on a gag order because they're not filming anything they don't want any interactions between people so you're just sitting next to people just giving them the side eye like kind of checking them out natalie's sitting there drinking her coffee

i was like oh my god i hope she's playing yes she was an alternate so fun yeah she's so fun she's so fun to watch like she gives great confessionals and she makes big moves and it's like works great in teams like fun to watch anyway such a babe i had a question this actually is a question my i asked my sister who's also a huge fan i was like what do you want to ask parvati and she was like she wants to know if there's a person that you've been you've always been kind of like in a team like you really do like you have your alliance member and then you work in a team really well is there someone that you've worked with in the game of survivor that's been your favorite

person to work with oh yeah it was amanda for sure she was the best we love amanda oh my it was like she and i could read each other's minds. Yeah. I didn't even have to say anything. She was like, got you. I was like, how do you have, you can't even script a relationship like that. And we hadn't even met ever before the game. And it was just like instant chemistry,

instant connection. She and I were like, day one, here's what we're doing. You're working Ozzy, I'm working James. We're gonna pull in Seri. Here we go. Like, that's our game. Wow. And you hadn't even seen Chyna at that point because it wasn't aired. It wasn't broadcast. Yeah.

I don't think that Chyna had even started airing. No. Right. Yeah. So, I didn't know her or James. Right. But I was just like, this guy is pretty cute. Yeah.

He's literally the hottest man alive. Everyone that I tell to watch Survivor, the number one thing I get is, we're parv nation. And the second thing I get is, James is the hottest man in the world. Literally, literally crazy. And he digs graves by hand still to this day. Wait, how does that work? He has a shovel and he just digs graves in Louisiana. Still?

Yeah, it's his family business. And he has not gotten into the technology of this century. So he's just so like an old school grave digger. When he first had a baby, he sent me a picture of him with his baby and his baby Bjorn digging a grave. With the baby in his pouch. The baby just dangling over a grave oh with the baby in his pouch i was like dangling over dangling over a plot wow yeah so you keep in touch with um people from the show or do they become your friends in real life like you know the relationships inside the game we see but what

happens after yeah some people i mean ozzy and i have certainly buried the hatchet i saw him at the farmer's market a couple weeks ago. You did not. Yeah. We just chit-chatted with our masks on six feet apart. Wow. That is so funny. Yeah. Well, in LA, there's a lot of survivors running around. So you're going to bump into a few.

I mean, I married one. So I see one every day. You married John Fincher, who was on Samoa. Oh, my God. You know everything. I'm so impressed. The thing about the survivor fandom which i didn't realize until we started watching it was and we would kind of go on instagram and just like say our takes or whatever the amount legion legion the feedback that we got was like yeah

it's great it's like a great vocal fan base which is what you want out of anything oh yeah it's perfect like i'm like i don't mind i'm like okay yeah like people have their opinions like this is great like this is an active whatever like community of people well i think what it is too and you guys can tell me if this is your experience but when you're sitting at home watching the show and you see people like get this opportunity like there was an idol hanging from a tree and the choice is do you take the idol or do you think if this is a trick and walk away like what would you do and i think you can project yourself into the characters or the personalities that you're seeing on screen and choose one archetype that fits you and be like this is me this is how

i would be in this adventure and there's you can sort of play the game through your favorite person wow yeah that's definitely true and then i also think it's always just easy to see yourself doing the right thing because you're not starving on a beach you're not like you haven't been privy to the edit of the episode like right so whenever anyone does something quote unquote dumb, I always try to take a step back and think like, as someone who can appreciate the edited television series, I'm watching like they're starving this.

And you might've done something even dumber in a way earlier episode and got voted out. I try not to like that kind of self-awareness is what we really validate. So would you give us your necklace, Matt? Um, literally you i might and then that's just wow no honestly can you can you even imagine that was so insane it was perfect though it was perfect like the sequence of events leading up to that was perfect and like the oral history of it all like that's on like entertainment yeah yes the doctor he's amazing talk about a super fan amazing amazing he's gone down for every season he's covered

every season as for entertainment weekly and he does these massive write-ups and stories for like each episode i'm like do you ever sleep how do you how do you they're deserved though because it's so layered and it's like the gameplay is so manifold and complex. And it really is like 3D chess that everyone's playing. Because I think, I don't know, I'm curious to know from you, what do you think, what's the quality that you think Survivor brings out in you anytime you're on the island? Is it the social aspect? Is it you using your powers of persuasion to try to tell people what to do? It's really,

I think it's the connection to nature and having a complete separation from any of your day-to-day responsibilities that puts me into this space of, I am like really deeply connected to my intuition. So I can follow, it's like guidance just moves me. So I can follow that inner guidance I'm like oh my gosh if I feel really awkward and uncomfortable about having this conversation

with this person like Wendell or whatever then I have to do it I have to actually step up put myself out of myself risk embarrassment risk looking stupid and have this conversation that's awkward like that conversation that I had with James after I voted Ozzy out.

I have to face the music and have those conversations. And that is what moves the game forward. Because in real life, I don't love conflict. And I do not want confrontation in my life. So I'll just smile, walk away, not interested. But on Survivor, I have to show up in a totally, in just a braver way. Yes. Where socially, especially with those social dynamics, I have to say the things that maybe I normally wouldn't say.

And I have to ask for things that normally would feel uncomfortable for me to ask for. So it's empowering. It is empowering and then watching how the how that moves me forward or moves the game forward i mean right inevitably those conversations always make the edit and i'm like oh my gosh i felt so awkward having that conversation but yeah look at how it showed up it doesn't actually look awkward on the screen no but it's just how i felt inside that it was you know i wanted to um ask too so speaking of conflict like you i think without really knowing who russell hance was because you hadn't seen his season of survivor ended up in a extremely close alliance with

russell hance in heroes versus villains and then you find yourself sitting next to Russell Hance and Sandra Diaz twine queen at the end of the, not the queen. She would say queen stays queen. She's a queen. Um, we'll give it to her. We'll give it to her.

She, she deserves, but there you are like at the end of it, sitting next to Russell and Sandra and watching the way that they interacted and sort of you in the middle of it all what was that experience like you know Sandra wins Russell's there he feels some type of way about it you can tell that you're disappointed because I think that after watching the season it's pretty clear that you I think deserve to win but like there's lots of going on what is that situation

like navigating that it's it? It's just awkward. I'm sitting in the middle of these two. Sandra already won. Russell lost. No votes for Russell. And it's over. And now they're going at each other. You guys just can't stop.

It's like the game never stops with those two ever. And for me, it's like when I'm done with the game, I breathe the sigh of relief. I just like heavy sob and then I move on. I'm i'm like okay time to see what's next in my life but i was just i was over it by then i'd gone through the experience of heroes villains which was hard enough like really really scarring and wounding and traumatic for me and then sitting in the finale where they're just like hands in my face i was was just like, oh, can I walk away? Can I get out of here? I mean, and then Sandra,

Bowen pointed out the other day, like Sandra will be in interviews like, I hate Russell. His wife hates him too because she's nice to him now, but it's all an act. That's all a facade. I hate Russell.

Nobody likes Russell. And he thinks about me all the time and I don't think about him ever. Except for now while I'm talking about him. Time stops. She is quite iconic. And you have to hand it to the show because truly all 20 winners, you could argue about who should have been there, whatever.

An iconic bunch. An iconic bunch. I know. We're pretty, like, very distinct. Everyone's very distinct in their own unique way. Yeah. And how the interaction between everyone is that's really where the magic happens truly great and i think that like me as like a

like a real fan like i of course wanted to see it be like old school at the end like i would have loved if at the end it was like you yule rob sandra you know that's i think what we all dream of but ultimately it didn't pan out that way how do you feel watching it about the way it struck out with tony winning and your own vote for natalie and michelle receiving no votes like what's your take on the season now having seen it well i would have loved to have been at the end with all of those people as well like me rob tyson and tyson with his baby girl oh my. And you with your baby on that episode. Can't believe. They're just the best.

And just so real. And, like, don't really get caught up in the drama. It's kind of like, okay, we're just going to be friends with whoever we want to be friends with and then moving on. But, yeah, I loved how the season ended. I really did. I feel so delighted to have been a part of season 40, though i didn't do like as well as i typically tend to do in survivor being at the end with tony who is so wild and outrageous and truly like no one is making a spy nest in a tree how are you doing this how are you even thinking about this

it's like so freakish that you wouldn't even think to look for it and yet you're watching being like natalie look up look. He's in the tree. It's like, dude, you walk. Okay. As a contestant, I'm thinking about what,

how that would have been for me, like walking to the well and having a conversation with Sarah. And then just, would you feel this presence over you? Or would you just be so caught up in the conversation that you're having? Cause there's the conversations you have are so intense yeah towards that point in the game that like it's all you can focus on so i don't know if i would have felt like the hair on the back of my neck standing up until he's like sitting over the branch about to fall and the fact that he took a torch like he made a torch

and midnight goes out hunting for an idol. If he found an idol... Come on. Come on! You're not even a human being. I was like, there's no way. I was watching it and I was like, if he finds it right now, I'm going to start to think this shit is fixed. Because it is the pitch black dark of a night. You can't. It's pitch black. You can't see a single thing.

And also, there's a lot of crazy sounds happening in the jungle at that point there's like scurrying they're squawking i mean you don't know what you're gonna put your hand in in the middle of the night it's gonna be a hard no from me actually on that one hard no and here i am saying like i tell bowen i tell bowen the other day i was like i think i have to go on i was like i think i must go on and i i think i want to go on i think you should go on but listen you have a real shot you're a super fan you can pull out trivia like any super fan that i've seen jeff loves that so that's what you really want to lead with in your interview okay and also just be like oh i'm so dynamic everyone loves me look at

how great i like you love me like you can't stop thinking about me just you you gotta man the man would not be able to get me off his mind never there's not a chance in hell he doesn't stand a chance i i that that nerd anyway um wait okay so we're gonna take a break and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna ask parvati the question and that's a capital t capital q oh my god great the real housewives of new york city are back for another bite of the big apple look who it is joined by elite new friends rebecca mackoff? Have you ever heard of her? But things could change in a New York Minute.

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And that question is, Parvati, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? Matt, what does that question mean? So basically, this is like when you were coming of age, becoming Parv, this was the culture that entered your life. And you said, oh, wow, this was the culture that entered your life and you said, oh wow, I feel moved to become myself. Maybe you didn't know it at the time, but you can find it now. Oh my gosh, I am feeling this question so much. Yes. Okay, so I don't know if you guys know this about me, but I grew up in a commune, basically like a Hindu spiritual community in Florida. And it was yogic, We chanted, we ate vegetarian food.

And then when I turned nine years old, we packed up my mom's silver Chevy spectrum, come on, drove up to Georgia and we moved to the inner city of GA. And from there, I was like, all my friends were black or brown. And was like oh my gosh this is so fascinating all these new people with all these new like tastes and experience and food and sounds and I was so curious about it so I got into really got into R&D in a major ways Tony Braxton, SWV, En Vogue, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston. Wow, this is so huge. This is a huge deal. You're talking to a full lamb right here.

And also, I am in the lambily. And what's your favorite Mariah album? My favorite Mariah album? It was the one that was like, honey. Butterfly. Yeah, me too. Okay, I mean, the old school, the bass. Love it.

Every day of my life. And I was so torn. I was like, who do I love more? Whitney or Mariah? Whitney or Mariah? And they would, in the radio stations, they would have those battles between the two. Yes, yes. I want to dance with somebody.

Like, how do you top that? I mean, can you even beat that? That's one of the best songs of all time. I mean, and also you mentioned Toni Braxton's one of the best songs of all time. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I mean, and also you mentioned Toni Braxton, who I feel the children have forgotten Toni. The children have forgotten Toni. The fact of the matter is,

Toni, you know, that is an iconic voice, a once in a lifetime. Butter. That sound. Straight butter. Butter, you can't really replicate it. I mean, you can replicate it, but it's like you would immediately think Toni Braxton. If it was that low, that velvety. but it's like you would immediately think Tony Braxton.

If it was that low, that velvety. Yeah. You're like, that's a throwback to Tony. Can you do an impression? Don't let me in all this pain. And the thing about her is, you don't think that she, because she comes at you like,

with all of this. And then like, she also has range. Like she's belting her ass off at the end of Unbreak My Heart. And I was like, if I could only be like these women, like just belt it out and really take a stand and be sexy and strong

and sensual and a total badass. That is what formed my identity. It was like sixth grade, seventh grade 6th grade, 7th grade, 8th grade, R&B, those ladies. And like the groups. Like SWV. Do you remember them? SWV week. And you know that Taj from SWV was

cast on Survivor and I just lost my mind. I was like, no. Oh my god. Which season? I honestly don't remember. You guys are probably better. She played? I didn't know this. Wait, why don't I know this either? That's crazy.

Yeah, get into it. Matt, you have to listen to SWV. You have to. Sisters with Voices. Sisters with Voices. And yes, now it's all coming. I think I didn't know the Abrieve. I get so weak at the knees. Oh, that's a jam see that's so it's so

fascinating that you say that like because i did feel like that that like time in the mid 90s like when it really ain't good oh we were eating well it was not the edge of extinction in terms of rich musical culture you could say it was quite the opposite in fact peanut butter it was chunky peanut butter and rich as well but honestly like when mariah like found when mariah like truly the chrysalis opened and mariah became the butterfly yes there are some tracks on butterfly album like the roof like breakdown like there are there's so much like good rich good stuff and it's true like that was the point in time when r&b music was truly i think like running everything brandy too gets brandy you're like this is what life is about because it was true storytelling and now

i'm learning so much yes though yes though yes though but there is like also like i remember like when christine aguilera came out too i was like see this is this is the clear choice for me if we're being come on yes dirty i remember just yeah we we all wanted to we we all saw ourselves in our mind's eye as that yeah but what about the mandy moore situation when she came out she came out around the same time it was mandy moore britney christina yes and then we had jessica in a distant fourth's right. So Mandy, so Mandy's so interesting because I feel like she like took a hard left on her third album, which do we think that's too early?

Because it was, because, because no, third album was when she just did pure covers. She did like, I feel the, she did like Carole King covers and she did like,

you know, Spanish Harlem, no, Mona Lisa's in Manhattan by Elton John. Like she was going, she was like basically turning into a 40 year old white woman by the time she was like 27. I feel like a girl. You know, which we love now, which we relate to. But back then, like as like an eighth grader, I was like, what is she doing?

Yeah, I was like, this is not pop star. Yeah, not down with that. No, but she actually, like Candy, there's some vocal moments on that. Oh, yeah. Candy, that was high school for me, though. So that was a little bit after my formative years with the R&B moment.

Right, right, right. And also, it's like once you've been in middle school enjoying the R&B moment, Mandy Moore isn't impressing you with like, I'm so addicted to the love and that you beat it so bad. Yes.

But I will say the gag of her whole discography for me is cry. Walk to remember. I was going to say anything from a walk to remember but also

I want to be with you. There's nothing I want to say. Love. Love. Very good. All the feels with that one. And the way that it starts be with you there's nothing to say love love very good all the feels with that one and the way that it starts where she goes

she goes I ain't sure I but I just can't see it's just such a weird fucking song weird what is this it's crazy

it's crazy Amanda Moore Amanda Amanda Lee now she's a real silver screen goddess yeah I mean she's really transformed.

Raking in the dough, as they would say, being the lead actress on This Is Us. Good for her. Wait, can we ask about your parents? Because I love the anecdote of in Micronesia, you holding up your arm for six hours using mantra. Yeah. A mantra that your dad gave you and like

was he was he just kind of like sourcing you with like certain things in terms of like being able to spiritually psychically like connect all the dots in your head like while you were playing survivor or like like like talk about like how they kind of not influenced your gameplay but like what they sort of gave you the tools yeah Did they give you the tools? Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's in a tool bag? Oh, dad in his tool bag. Yes.

Know about that? We know that story. Dads, they famously have tools. It's actually a rule of culture number 103. Dads, they famously have tools. I really wanted to join you guys on that one. Oh, feel free. Feel free to join us at any time.

It actually reinforces the rule of culture even more when the guest joins in. So many tools. Okay, so yes, my dad the first time I played in Cook Islands my dad was so fired up about this because he loves camping. He's from the woods in New Hampshire. They used to play

games when he was younger where they would get a bow and arrow and shoot it up in the sky and dodge it. That was his childhood game that he played oh my god that is such like a like fill in the blank like dad used to play this so be happy with your video game like when i was a kid we used to shoot a bow and arrow in the sky and it would fell down it would kill you if you couldn't get out of the way so uh i'm sorry i can't charge your game boy right now while we're in the car okay so anyway when i get when i get cast on season 13 micronesia i mean cook islands my dad's like pumped this is his childhood dream i'm true yeah and he is going to live vicariously through me as i throw myself into this adventure so he calls calls me. He's like, you got to come home.

We got to train. He sets up this archery set in the backyard with like a hay barrel. I mean, he lives in the suburbs of Georgia. I don't know where he got this hay barrel, but he got it. And so he set that up. We're doing fire making with flints and a machete. The whole works. And he's just like trying to teach me how to whittle sticks and like build a shelter.

He's like, here's an A-frameframe this is how you build an a-frame this is the best to like guard you from the wind and i was just like okay dad here we go so then when i went back for micronesia i mean he realized like survival okay nature i got it handled he taught me all of that the last time so this time i just remember we were just sitting at the dinner table and my dad was like, oh, hey, you know, just like off the cuff. Hey, if you ever, you know, need some help out there, you should try out this mantra. It's Om Mani Padme Hum. I used to chant it a lot when I was in New York City. My dad's lived multiple lifetimes in his one lifetime.

He was a yogi in New York City who would just meditate like six, seven hours a day. And he was part of this like spiritual group there. And he's like, oh, mani padme hum. It means the strength of the universe is inside of me. So you chant that whenever you need it. And it just like, it was like a nothing. And then we moved on to whatever else we were talking about. And I remember in that challenge, I was holding my arm up.

And probably in the first five minutes, I'm starting to feel the fire, the numbing. And I'm like, oh, this is going to be challenging. And I knew I had to win that challenge. You really did. In order to pull off the whole blind side of Ozzy. So I was like, all right, no one else. Everyone's stepping down for peanut butter and cookies and milk and chocolate. And I'm like, I have to win this.

And Jason would not get down because he thinks we're going to vote him out. Yeah. Yeah. And he's tough. I mean, he was a good challenge competitor. So I'm, I'm feeling it. I'm like, oh, it was just my dad's. It just popped into my head.

Oh, money. Pardon me. And I was, I was like praying. I was honestly asking for assistance. I was like, okay, God, like, can you help me? Like universe goddess, like divine creative power, please help me. Someone, anyone that's there, please. Are you listening to me, God? I need your help to keep my arm up. I don't know if I can do this. And all of a sudden that mantra popped into my head. I start repeating it in my mind and I can

feel the power of the universe expanding inside of me. And I'm like, Oh, if I'm the universe, I'm going to hold my arm up forever. Yes. Yeah. There's no, did you leave your body? I left my body. I don't remember so much of that challenge. I remember seeing a butterfly and then like the challenge was over. Wow. And it was six hours that you held your arm up. Yeah. It was a little over six hours. And you know what happened after that was Jeff and the art department and challenge department was like, we're never going to have production do this challenge like this ever again because they don't want to sit there and film for six hours.

Right. Yeah. So they make it harder and harder every time. They make the post that you have to stand on skinnier, like the balance. Right. You can tell that he's like, okay, today we're going to flip a coin.

That's going to be heads or tails. And if you had got heads, you get to do the puzzle. Right. Cause we got to go. So those long, it's the end of an era with the long grueling endurance challenge, which is a bummer because I love those.

I mean, I'm so good at them. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you really did transcend. And then, I mean,

is that something that you end up wanting to engage with like throughout your life like i don't like you have to be pretty selective with the moments in your life where you want to like fully leave your body oh my gosh stop no it's one of my favorite things to do really yes how often do you do it now i so i practice kundalini yoga which is a style of yoga that is really makes you high basically It builds the strength of your nervous system and helps you to be able to adapt and handle stress, really helps to expand your awareness. So you can just do more things in your life.

And so I really love this style of yoga, but it's weird. And you have to do weird stuff, like hold your arms up for X amount of minutes and do this certain type of breathing. And it's just like you expand out of your body. Like the edges of your body are totally gone. You don't even know where you come and where you go anymore. You turn into a pink cloud of love. I've done that before.

I mean, yeah, I'm just giving away all my goods to you guys. But I go to this Kundalini Yoga Festival in New Mexico, and they do this every year around the summer solstice. And I will do three days of this thing called white tantric meditation where you're sitting cross-legged in front of your partner, and there's thousands of people. Everyone's wearing white. Everyone's got a turban on.

So you look like a total whack job. Some people are wearing crystal headgear that they made homemade themselves beautiful it looks crazy but the experience that i have is transcendent like i love it and there's no i when i'm done with that meditation the colors in the world are so beautiful are you kidding like people explain i've never done lsc i've never done acid i've never done like hallucinogens really it sounds like acid that's what people i mean literally as as people that like that yeah it sounds like that's what you are saying i was gonna ask you if you've if you've done that no i think you guys would love it we'll get you into the kundalini yoga festival we can do the podcast from there and so you're saying we can get the same thing we get from lsd

except we don't have to drastically change our body chemistry with drugs you don't you actually change your body chemistry by doing this kind of meditation yes there's some kind of like hormonal changes that happen i don't i'm not like a neuroscientist so i can't tell you what exactly goes on when you do this but they do they've done a lot of studies about this specific style of meditation and yoga. And the brain changes when you do it. And it helps you to have a broader perspective so that you can live your life and have a connected experience with your own inner divinity, your own creative wisdom, life force that flows through you and guides you to the best you know best life possible for you that is unbelievable did i just play you guys like

hi right now just i yes i know i'm a little like i'm listening to you and i'm soothed to be honest i always talk myself out of um well many things but like like with meditation i had an ex-boyfriend that got really into it after we broke up and i was just thinking to myself like oh god was that me did i like cause him to go nuts but he but because i i it was just so not a part of my culture like i'm like from like a working class family on long island like where it was just kind of like the emotions of it all kind of got like swept under the rug a little bit. And I didn't really become like emotionally in touch with myself until my 20s. And so this was the first experience I had being close with someone who got really into meditation, but it was such a positive change for him. And I would try to do it. And I find that

this is probably just a beginner thing that people tell you all the time, but my mind would just race and I could feel like I could never get calm enough to a place where I would let it work for me. And so I've just never really committed to it. Do you have any advice for people who it's probably most difficult in the beginning, but want to push past that because they want this to work for them? Yeah, totally. And that is such a common experience for new meditators. I mean, it's just like you have all of these patterns and habits in your mind of thinking, and you haven't ever tried to change them or really look at them before. They're just kind of operating in you.

So it's a natural thing to sit down and just be totally wired. So what I would encourage you to do is two things. One, get some physical activity before you try to sit down, which is the real purpose of yoga is to prepare the body for meditation. So people are doing this more strenuous vinyasa flow yoga classes or kundalini yoga classes so that they can calm the body down or tire the body out enough that you can have a little more spaciousness in the mind and have a little more relaxation in your mind because the body and the mind are intimately connected, right? The body speaks in the language of feelings.

The mind speaks in the language of thoughts. They're just trying to get your attention. So when you sit down, what you want to do is have a little more relaxation in the body and then start to get some understanding of what you're doing in meditation. It's like you want to know, like if you're beginning to be a painter, you can just go to the store and buy some paints and buy a canvas and just start doing it. And it might be good or it might be horrible. But if you have instruction or if you have like if you've gone through some YouTube videos and learned about like some painting basics, then you're just more prepared to sit there and be OK with yourself being a beginner and messing up and trying over again. So meditation is similar to that where it's like just learn a little bit about what it is, what you're trying to do, because what you're really trying to do is calm like activate the prefrontal cortex

which is your um it's your ceo in your brain basically it's your decision maker it's the the like it's the thinking part of the brain the executive functioning you want to activate that but you want to close down all your other senses so you want to close your eyes you want to draw all your attention inward and you want to focus all of your attention here at the front of the forehead. So like the third eye area, that like midbrain area. And as you do that, these other parts of your brain, like the reptilian brain that's responsible for habits and survival, all those things starts to calm down the limbic brain, which is emotion starts to calm down, starts to get quiet. And really, so then only what's really online and what's active is this prefrontal lobe, which is where you can start to have some more deeper awareness about yourself. Like, what is this?

What is causing this negative consequence in my life? Like, I don't know what's going on, but my relationship is not going well. I wonder why that's happening. How am I somehow creating this situation, co-creating this situation in my relationship? You can start to ask yourself questions like that to develop some more awareness of how you are ultimately responsible

for creating your own reality. Right. So it really puts you in the power seat of your life doing that. So then you can actually make different decisions and choices and actually change your life for the better. You're very good at just breaking this down in a very clear way because I've always wondered how to verbalize this and it makes complete sense to me.

And I was watching one of your YouTube videos the other day when you were talking i referenced this before but when you were talking about scarcity mindset even just like um which is the fixation on what you don't have and how that's ultimately not productive um and how that's a choice to feel that way actually and it's it's not necessarily easy to stop thinking that way but it's and i when you can identify that you can identify why you're in a like toxic holding pattern or you're focusing on negative stuff yeah it's this false sense of we think we can change the thing that we're obsessed over by obsessing over it and it's like actually it's a trap but that just feeds it more yeah totally obsession and in quarantine i think that a lot of us are having a lot of problems with that because we're just sitting around and

with not much to do and a lot of a ton of uncertainty and that of course like is a breeding ground for being alone with ourselves it's so funny when people say right now we're alone because i think we're not really alone because we're with the thousands of voices in our heads oh yeah so how have you how have you we're with the thousands of voices in our heads. Oh, yeah. So how have you been dealing with the quarantine of it all? Have you found yourself coping with a lot of this stuff? Or do you feel prepared for this?

I'm wondering where your head is at. Yeah, honestly, it's been super helpful for me. Because what I've recognized through this quarantine experience is how fast I was moving. And how I was trying to keep up. Like I had this external pressure on myself to keep up. And it wasn't like I was trying to keep up with other people or compete with other people. It was more like myself. Like I was putting all this pressure to keep up with myself and like make all these commitments and say yes to all this stuff and go, go, go and figure out childcare and do the best thing with my baby and be the best mom and be the best everything, literally baby, and be the best mom, and be the best everything.

Literally everything. And when this quarantine hit, I was like, oh, I'm doing that to myself. And it's so stressful to live that way. And so it just gave me a sigh of relief, honestly, to not have to put on clothes and go to a social engagement and make sure that my child was getting like puzzles or whatever like brain stimulation i was like you know what she's gonna be fine she's actually okay yeah yeah she's like eating she's spilling a huge tub of popcorn in my living room literally eating popcorn off the rug fine she is we all didn't we all do that as kids i do

that too i do this do that once a week. No, that's great though, Park, because the other, the corollary, I guess, to the scarcity mindset lesson, I would say, is that it's slightly more productive to imagine how you would feel if you had the thing and behave, let that affect and inform the behavior from that place instead of constantly fixating on the lack yeah so it can shift you out of this hamster wheel that's why i was comparing it to because

it's like if we think we're missing something like say on the edge of extinction we don't have food right and when you start obsessing like survivor people talk about food all the time production will just sit there and start throwing rocks at each other because they're so bored because we're talking about s'mores and pancakes again. We just get obsessed about the thing that we're missing. And this happens in every aspect of life. Like time, money, relationships, jobs.

You obsess over the thing that you think you're missing. And you think, oh, if I just go faster, if I try harder, then I'll get the thing that I'm missing. But just for the mere fact that you're thinking in terms of what you're missing and you think oh if i just go faster if i try harder then i'll get the thing that i'm missing but just for the mere fact that you're thinking in terms of what you're missing means you're gonna get more of what you're missing it's like focusing on what you don't want if you're paying attention to what you don't want you're like i don't want to be single and that's all you think about you are going to be single for the rest of your life yeah i'm sorry to say so you have to shift over into what would it feel like to be in a relationship like with someone who i really loved and cared about and what would we be doing together and

how would we be interacting and what would we be how would we be spending our time what would we saying to each other right so i like did this at one point in my life. I wanted a relationship. And so I realized that the choices I was making at the time were not going to lead me towards a healthy relationship. Love that. Love a good unhealthy period. Cold turkey cut my man addiction and just stopped. And I was like, all right, 40 days. I am going on a man cleanse. I am not dating. I am not flirting, which was very hard for me. I am not perusing the aisles of Whole Foods looking for hot guys.

I am on a break for 40 days. They're at Whole Foods. I'm going to tell you something. They're not at Gelson's. Yes, yes, yes. Gelson's is toe up. No. That is what caribou's bomb is. Organic, non-GMO.

That's okay. That's actually the Gelson's rule rule that's rule of culture number 92 galsons yes toe up is actually one of the phrases that i love the most like it have you seen clueless clearly of course so the scene with dion where where um Dion where they're like playing tennis and Brittany Murphy, the goddess, comes in and she's like not looking great. Cher's like, oh my God, that's our new project. And Dion goes, Cher, she is toe up. Our stock would plummet. Would plummet. Yeah.

Just the best script of all time. But toe up needs to come back. Okay. So you're in a man cleanse. You brought it right back. You just did that. Yeah. so you're in a man cleanse you brought it right back you just did that um yeah so i'm on a man cleanse so while i'm doing this i'm like i commit to 40 a 40 day period yeah of stopping the obsession so this is really helpful for those of you who have been fixated on things commit to a period of time 30 40 days 40 days is good because that's

enough time to give your brain a chance to establish a new habit yes so 40 days commit and then you decide what is it what's my purpose here what am i trying to do for me i wanted to create a relationship with someone who could eventually lead towards marriage and a family because i was like i knew in my bones i wanted to have a baby i knew oh i wanted that so bad so i did this i committed i had my intention i want to create a relationship that leads towards marriage then i start journaling about it i'm like okay well what do i want this guy to look like what do i want to feel like inside of this relationship what do i want us to be doing like i wanted someone who was adventurous who was athletic who liked being outdoors and like doing fun things and musical and sporty and you wanted someone who

was like a survivor contestant yeah like a really handsome rocket scientist who spoke he's a rocket scientist bowen i know i know this i know this yeah and hot as little hell and a gorgeous man he's pretty cute so you journal so you journal so i journal about it. And literally, okay. So as I'm going through this process for myself, I'm tested. I'm tested, guys. Girl. Yes. A couple of guys pop up in my field and I'm like, oh, that would be fun to engage with. Yeah.

That's going to happen to you if you make this commitment. Just know you will be tested. When it rains. It does. It pours. So that's happening. I have to keep bringing myself back to my intention to my commitment to clear the obsession and i'm journaling and at night i'm going to bed

and i'm imagining i'm like feeling my head laying on this guy's chest i'm like feeling what it would feel like to have this guy in bed with me like laying there there, being together. And I swear, I have this like moment where I close my eyes and I see in my mind this blue flame in outer space and this pink flame in outer space. And they're like dancing independently. And then they come together and it's this bonfire. And then they separate and they dance. I swear, you guys, I can't make this stuff up. And as we know in the game of Survivor, fire is life.

Fire is life fire is life fire is family for title event fire is family hashtag yeah so then literally a week after i'm done with this 40-day cleanse i meet john from survivor samoa we are in a car at a soccer game no yeah on the way to a soccer game he slides I slide in next to him in the back seat and I'm like oh my gosh we've met before like once and it was nothing and then this time I was like in a whole different headspace because you know I did my thing and I was so into him like from right away he was like so comfortable and I just wanted to like lay my head on his shoulder and I was like don't do it barb don't do that oh my god that's so funny you say that like i i out of

nowhere i knew when i wanted to be with my boyfriend when i found myself like without even thinking just kind of going like that i was like what are you doing laying your head oh that's the best yeah so then we were and we were dating ever since. So it's manifestation 101. Honestly, I'm going to, I'm literally going to do this. Do it. 40 days. No. I mean, at this point, I mean, with quarantine, it's just no apps, but like that's, that's, that's already a huge shift.

It's a huge lurch into committing to this and committing to knowing what I want. It's also this thing now where it's like, I mean, all we're talking about now is like missing human interaction and among other things, obviously, but it's like, I mean, all we're talking about now is like missing human interaction and among other things, obviously. But it's like, okay, but the more I think about not interacting with humans, does that create, does that set me up for just missing it even more or just obsessing over the lack of that? Well, I'll tell you how you can tell. Do you want to know? Yes. We want to know.

When you're obsessing about something, just notice how it makes you feel. When you're thinking about, oh, I'm missing interaction. I'm missing humans. Does it make you feel like empowered and inspired? No, of course not. What does it make you feel like? It makes me feel sad and miserable. And like, I mean, stress, if you want to define it as like being uncertain about the future.

Like that's all that that's all that is. It's pure stress. Yeah. So from that place, you're going to keep creating more of that. So you have to shift your body into a state of more like openness, feeling good, feeling more alive, feeling more joyful. That's how you can create from that place. So you notice like when you're obsessing over something and it doesn't make you feel good, it makes you feel crappy, then that's a great signal. That's great.

It's like great information. There's no judgment around any. That's great. It's like great information. There's no judgment around any of this, whatever. It's just great information for you to notice. Oh my gosh, I'm doing it. I'm creating more of this crap that I don't want. So then you can empower yourself to move out of that. I love it. And then that's when you hold your arm up for six hours and you're like, I'm amazing.

Ah, oh, money pod may hum. You win immunity in life. And you win immunity in life and you win immunity in life survivor is life you guys are learning that i well literally yes i mean like it literally has it's like i mean when i when i got into the housewives i was like not much as positive as coming from this but at least it is like it's showing people who are like you know fully engaging with their lives and like even if it conflict driven, like at least they're saying the way they feel. And that is something positive that I got from it. With Survivor, it's like, I think the positive thing that I get from it is just like understanding people and the way that they act and thinking to myself, like, this is how people act when they feel that they're acting in their own best interest.

And it's just very interesting as like a social we talked on our last episode about how like it's a very interesting microcosm of the world survivor and it's a rorschach test it's a rorschach test for people they see what they want to see oh yeah well don't we all and that's the thing with natalie that's the reason why she didn't win is because she just she didn't give. She was like kind of hoarding her coins. And like I still voted for her because I just think what she did was totally epic. Being able to be a voter. Such a good story. Come back and disrupt in the way that she did.

She rocks. She rocks. She is so much fun. But she's also like. You can tell. The reason she didn't win is because she didn't get the jurors from the end. She wasn't like generous enough with them. She wasn't willing to give up some of her stuff.

I got to say, I can't stand of the way she was coming off to the jury who were on edge until Natalie came back and said the perception was that Tony was running the game and that Sarah would really have to distinguish herself in order to have a chance. And then we had that moment where Sarah Lucina called out the gender bias in the show and it led to a larger discussion. I wanted to ask you, was that the perception on the edge of like were people sort of running the conversation like it kind of feels through the screen like boston rob might have been very strong about the way he felt about things that the way they should go and etc like was there was there a belief that like tony was the strongest player and like to anyone else. Like what was that?

No, I think what was happening was Sarah. Yes. Boston Rob is very opinionated and he's always going to tell you how he feels. So you just know that's coming. But when Sophie and Kim came back from the game, they were the ones who were saying like Sarah. I think Sarah is like really putting it on. Like she says she says all these things. She's trying to create a bond with us

and she's using really deeply personal things to connect with us. And it feels icky. That's what they were saying about working with Sarah. So they came back and they were the ones who were saying it wasn't about Tony being the mastermind. It was more about Sarah kind of exploiting

a more human connection that they felt was off limits and that's why they didn't want to vote for sarah so they were the one i didn't meet sarah in the game at all i didn't feel any kind of way about sure and you know how i would feel about girl power like if she showed up and was like i am i have been working with tony this whole time and now i'm going to blindside him and vote out Ben or whoever, whatever, or vote out Tony. Like, why didn't you turn on Tony and vote him out? It's really crazy.

She could have won. Yeah, sure. Sure. And people were just falling on their swords left and right at the end. Like, how do you guys feel about that? That was very strange for me.

I mean, it was, it was odd to watch people just kind of give up at the end. I was like, the Ben thing was on a new level. You're here. You know what I mean? Like this,

I don't think this helped your narrative at all in the in the larger grand scheme of things it's like i don't know didn't love that very quickly i want to say that like you it seemed like you had sort of you were sort of the foreman for the jury in a moment where you were like talking to tony and you were like talk to us about how you blindsided all of us but that none of us feel any sort of resentment or ill will towards you like that kind of like that was the moment where i knew like oh i actually thought natalie had a shot at winning this but it's probably gonna go to tony because none of the jury members really feel that tony was responsible for them being where they were does that make sense that really is truly a testament to tony's mastery in the game of Survivor because him being able to

blindside and backstab and vote people out, these big ego people like Jeremy, Wendell, all these people and not have them feel like I hate you, I'm going to destroy you and none of them were campaigning against Tony at all.

So it was just a testament like wow you've done something that i've never been able to pull off in this game when i vote people off they hate me sure and i don't know if that's the that's the gender bias happening because i think it could be a little gender bias where it's like oh i got got by it like an alpha dude but that's cool because that's what they're supposed to do but when a woman gets you it's like oh i got played by a girl for sure this actually correlates to my i don't think so honey oh to be very honest which we are gonna take a very quick break and then come back and do that right after

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We take something in the culture that's just grinding our gears that we don't love, and we take it down. And we say, I don't think so, honey, that thing. And it leaves the culture in shame. Yes. Matt, you have something? I do have something. I have something that is Survivor-related even. say i don't think so honey that thing and it's it leaves the culture in shame yes um matt you have something i do have something i have something that is survivor related even okay great um so this is matt rogers i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey amber saying that everyone thinks rob deserved his win uh her win on all stars girl you won that season because

let me tell you what you actually did and you need to give yourself credit for and you need to examine why you're not giving yourself credit for it you had the biggest strategist in the game literally fall in love with you and then not only protect himself but went out of his way to protect you and you had him this guy who's supposed to be all about himself all about the game protecting you that is a move and at the end of the day you did have a better gauge on that jury at the time which was a time when people were taking things very personally you were able to get to the end and win rightfully so 15 because he did not manage the jury as well as you did i believe that everyone

who wins ultimately should win and i don't think so honey you're not giving yourself the credit I have to say while I was moved by the emotion in the moment didn't love the messaging behind the moment I don't think so honey that and that's one minute wow it was so good I gotta say that moment kind of like I was watching it and I was like I should be like more moved by this but I'm really just disappointed because i want to see her step into her power she is a survivor winner she won all-stars down hands down and he he won the season that he was supposed to win he did not win all-stars to me he was playing a game that they nailed him for she's just such a selfless loving woman and she just she plays that role of wife and mother so traditionally where her whole role is to you know expand extol her man's virtues and praise him and make him feel good about himself and she does a great job at that but i think you're right with your i don't think so because she

totally earned that she can't downplay the win yeah then they got married on tv the whole thing the whole thing and i mean like i just remember why i remember that was back in the day when i was still watching it season to season and thinking to myself like amber is the clear winner because she really like was party to every decision so she was quote unquote in control of every decision and people also forget on her season there was a tribe shake up that put her on the other tribe and it was there was no one there for her and she still survived so anyway this is again me being the big fan get ready i'm exposing myself exposed exposed um but yes okay so at this time it's now gonna be bow and yanks i don't think so honey i had a non-survivor i don't think so honey but i have i have a survivor uh topic planned what i actually want you to do and this is what i always want you to do is to follow

your heart and you're my best best friend in the world my best friend in the world you're my amanda kimmel because you look like amanda because amanda kimmel is you amanda kimmel is me in a wig is unfortunately the deal not even unfortunately she's the's the most beautiful woman. Miss Montana. I see it. It's really, you're so cute. It's the eyes. It's the eyes and the mouth. Me and Bowen are Amanda and Parv.

And at the end of the day, I think Bowen, you would do a better job in final drawing. No way. Get your coconut fire ready. Yeah, yeah, yeah. One thing before Bowen goes is, can you describe like,

how long does Tribal Council take? Oh my, like at least a couple hours. So it's not this this like brisk like we have the five questions that we ask and then go no way there's a lot that gets left on the cutting room floor of course my toenail fell off and the final tribal this time it was raining the whole time yeah that looked so bad poor Sophie what the hell Sophie was like sick and dying yeah she was she was dying. That was really awkward for her. Yule also, but you didn't hear about that. Can we just say Yule is the hottest man alive? Yes.

And he's kept it together. He doesn't age. I think it's probably he's kind of like roboted himself from Facebook and Google and stuff. Yeah. Good for him. Well done. Well done, Yule. That's one of the great tragedies of winners of war for me is

yule's elimination as well would have loved it to be parvati and yule at the end tbh would have been huge anyway um so now at this time what we're going to do is we're going to do bow and yang's i don't think so honey and his time is going to start now i don't think so honey the queen sandra t has twined. How dare you pull up the flag the second you get to the edge of extinction. If your whole hang-up is about everybody, the whole survivor community being like she doesn't necessarily deserve her wins,

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, then you have to make the case for yourself and for the community that you stick it out. Even if you don't earn a single fire token, at least you can say that you've stayed for the entire run of the season. Okay, instead you're traveling the world buying dolls.

Is that real? Is that, you mentioned that. No, that's a thing I made up. Okay, Sandra, we love you so much. You're a true icon, but that really disappointed me. You robbed us, the viewership, of more Sandra Diaz twine television. And that's all we want.

It's one of the culminations of the whole series that you are there with Rob, with Parvati, with Amber, with Tyson. You have, you, you robbed us of quality television and I love you forever, but I will not forgive you for that transgression.

And that's what's in it. And I don't think so, honey on Sandra Diaz twine thief of our joy thief of our joy absolutely oh my gosh you guys can you give some sandra insight what's what's your relationship with sandra sandra and i we don't really have a relationship we just don't that's great she seems like she seems like a beautiful enigma it's wonderful okay we're we're running along i don't have much to say about parv but i could talk about russell all the time i hate him and his wife hates him and his kids hate him and when he and he goes home and he sits in his backyard and all he does

is vlog about survivor and i'm out here playing and continually winning queen i'm sitting on my damn couch recording cameos for the world and making people happy bringing the smile to people's faces what's russell doing nothing russell can't even get on cameo girl my cameos for the world and making people happy, bringing the smile to people's faces. What's Russell doing? Nothing. Russell can't even get on cameo. Girl, my cameos cost $300 each. Russell, he can't get no $15 cameo. Parvati, I don't have much to say

about her. We don't have much of a relationship, but I respect her. She's not the queen. She's charging a pretty penny for her cameo, so I respect that. I respect her cameos. Guys, penny for her cameo so I respect that I respect her cameos guys I'm like cameo mafia over here I'm signing up all my survivor people under my wing on cameo

and I'm like come under mama's wing I'm on cameo and I keep trying to get Bowen to get on they won't let me NBC won't let me I would love to do it unfortunately the National Broadcasting Company

has not allowed Bowen to get on Cameo they're limiting your ability to interact with your fan base exactly well they let him do this podcast and let us talk about

any bullshit we want so we should be thankful fine we'll take that okay alright Parvati thank you so much for doing this would you do

what I don't think so honey? okay guys I was gonna do an I Don't Think So, Honey? Okay, guys. I was going to do an I Don't Think So, Honey about moms, like moms of twins on Instagram. Okay. Okay. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Okay. Because you guys did Survivor things. So I was like, oh, do I need to do a Survivor one? No, you don't have to. You don't have to. You can do it.

And the thing is, like, just like I said to Bowen, my sister, I said, follow your heart. And I said the same thing to you. Yes. Same to you. I love you. Same to you. I love you. Okay. All right. So we're going to set up the clock.

This is poverty showers. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. Oh, my gosh. I'm so nervous. I don't think so, honey. I mean, these moms on Instagram, the ones who have like newborn babies who have their hair done, who have their makeup done, who are like 10 pounds.

I'm like, I don't think so, honey. You know that you just got vomited on. Your baby just shit all over the wall and you're cleaning it up and you just moved to a different part of the house to take that video and you know i don't think so honey because your husband or whoever your instagram husband or wife that's recording that video for you they are so upset they are so pissed they are so sleep deprived they're like i don't think so honey you don't even like are you for real that is not even true you're just shoveling cinnamon toast crunch in your mouth on the daily you're not cooking lasagna for your family right now i don't think so honey what kind of that's not a real 15 seconds you bought that in the frozen food section

pretending like you cooked that from scratch now you're showing us you're panning over the ingredients that you made you put the casserole i don't think so honey you know that from scratch. Now you're showing us you're panning over the ingredients that you made. I don't think so, honey. You know that is bullshit. And that's one minute! Instagram moms found dead. Lazzania from Gelman's found dead. Come on.

Stop making us look bad. And that's really the poison of Instagram, isn't it? You just log on and everyone says, this is the perfect me. And you're like, oh gosh. And especially when you're like dealing with motherhood, which is the,

I would imagine the hardest thing in the world. Oh my God, so hard. And like, you just don't even know what the heck you're doing for the first like six months to probably 17 years. And you're just like, oh, well,

I guess this is fine. Cause it's like, you're, you, I would imagine, I would imagine it's like, you're pregnant, you give birth. And then it's like, oh, well, I guess this is fine. Because it's like you're, I would imagine, I would imagine it's like you're pregnant, you give birth, and then it's like this little human is in front of you. And it's like, how do you hold it? What do you do?

How do you keep it living? Yeah. Yeah. Especially ones that have an adventurous spirit. Oh, my God. You guys, I wish I could bring her into this audio podcast because she would just wreak wreck shop. She would destroy.

I am interested to see like in 2022 years, your daughter become poverty 2.0 on survivor season. 75,000. Jeff's going to start doing four seasons a year. And he's like, ah, quarantine. We'll just keep rolling them out.

Survivor Zoom Island. Survivor. Kids versus adults. Well, they did say 16-year-olds can apply now. I saw that. I was like, oh my goodness. Don't love. No?

No, because I like a good reward challenge where they get like a little champagne, a little red wine, a little beer. I want my Survivor castings personally to be of age yeah sure it's pretty wild okay so we just want to say that if you have a young one in your life and you're looking for something to i don't know have them read the book is own the otter and you can get it on articulation books and honestly we just want to say thank you so much because like i said like we got into this during quarantine and truly survivor it really was like a like a totem for me you know what i mean it helped me it helped me like get through the early days of it and like it was really fun to

root for you and you're just you rock you rock you rock guys thank you this has been really fun i'm so impressed with your survivor knowledge. It's really beyond. You know, and we know a few other things. Yeah. We do know. I promise it's not just this. You actually entered the lamily.

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