Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Flarge" (w/ Stephanie Hsu)

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

One of Matt & Bowen's oldest friends, Stephanie Hsu, joins for an episode of Las Cultch that is truly everything, everywhere all at once. Discussed? Everything Everywhere All At Once and how it is truly the essence of Steph Hsu, going to be with the whales, coming up together in college sketch, shaking hands with Hollywood, Jamie Lee Curtis, the Daniels and growing up as an artist and creator. Also, downtown theater legend Liz Swados and the impact she had on Steph and Matt, how to respond to the question "how are you?" over text and Twitter going bye, bitch. This episode puts everything on a bagel. And the most yummy bagel? Is Steph. We love her! And you.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture?

Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. This one takes me all the way back. This one, we're about to unlock some memories.

Alohomora, I say. The girls might as well be saying alohomora, because when it comes to unlocking memories, we're casting the spells. Let's talk about Harry Potter. Let's have the referendum right here, right now on Harry Potter. Yes or no, right now, in the next three minutes, we're going to decide the fate of Harry

Potter and the culture going forward. And it has to happen here on Lost Culture Is This. It is a classic example of a person who was able to fictionalize morality in such a way that they lost touch with their own moral purpose internally after gaining massive wealth. Where is the movie about that? Do we even want to see it? I think the biopic of J.K. Rowlingling already exists and it is tracy allman as renee

zellweger playing as jk rowling it is the iconic sketch of all time it really is so good and also it's like so tracy allman plays renee zellweger and she's doing an insane renee zellweger and then she does renee zellweger as jk rowling it's a really good impression of what you think renee zelliger would be as jk rowling there's levels there's levels there's levels to this shit anyway that's my little cursory assessment of the culture for harry potter at this time and i'm happy you were the final voice on it because now there's no more discussion to be had actually there is a little one last thing okay before we move. There's this game called Hogwarts.

It's called Hogwarts History. No, it's called Hogwarts Legacy. Oh, it's like Rony Legacy. It's not Rony Legacy. It's Hogwarts Legacy. It's a prequel that takes place decades before Harry Potter steps onto

the world stage, the boy who lived period but it's hogwarts like in the 50s 60s 70s i want to say somewhere in that time but it's open world which means you can like literally go in any direction and there's you can engage with the world this game hasn't been in development for years and they keep rolling out these videos and i gotta say i'm like annoyed i'm annoyed at the way these developers are sounding so smug and proud of this game that like is truly probably gonna be bad i'm gonna i'm gonna say on this podcast i i'm gonna play this game but i'm not gonna like it but it's only because i have a deep sentimental connection to the harry potter video games on pc i'm sorry i'm getting. You really are, but you're also

very, you're really activated on video games right now because you were deep in your Pokemon zhuzh. And you are so mother for that. You are so mother for that. I'm naming my character mother, of course. I just came up with a Housewives tagline for Harry Potter. Do you want to hear it? Yeah. I might be the boy who

lived, but now I'm the man who is living. Oh my god! Here's one for Ron Weasley. Poetry. I'll be your sidekick, but I will not be your sidepiece. Whose sidepiece was he? Nobody.

I don't know, but this is like in a world where he's someone's sidepiece. What's good for Hermione? I got brains and beauty, and that's more than I can say for you. Yeah, that's good. Sort of. That's really good. No, that's really good. I'm trying to think.

Draco Malfoy called me a mudblood, but he's the one who'll be spilling blood. That's kind of a threat. Wow, that's so mean, Bo. You're gonna kill him. What's a good one for Voldemort so mean, Bo. You're going to kill him. What's a good one for Voldemort? And then we'll bring in the guest.

Okay. Hmm. Hmm. I don't think he deserves one. Can I just say, I don't think he deserves one. You know what? Voldemort doesn't even deserve a Housewives tagline. And that's actually rule of culture number 10.

Voldemort doesn't even deserve a Housewives tagline. Did you see on Watch What Happens? Ralph Fiennes did as Voldemort the Lisa Barlow. She fucked half of New York. It was excellent. It was excellent. Our guest is clutching her, double palming her mouth. She has not

moved from this stance and it's so her essential gesture. It's so her essence. Readers, we've known this person for over 10 years now. Wild. isn't it wild to think of it that way yes and i've since the first day i ever met her i thought well that's obviously one of the most talented people i've ever seen that's the fucking star so cut to now i can't believe this the oscar buzz can you imagine she just covered her face, but come on, bitch. You know

what the fuck is happening. So I didn't realize this, but I go on the sites, you know the sites. The sites. And we're seeing her name? Constantly predicted. And I was like, duh. It's obviously deserving, but it's just crazy to see your friend listed there. And I've experienced this with you. Well, and look where that got us. Nowhere. What? To several nominations? Shut up. Can I say something right now? Shut up. You're right.

You're so right. Everywhere all at once. You've seen it by now. Surely you've seen it. Twice. No, I'm saying to the reader, I saw it three times. You did. I saw it at an 824 screening the daniels happened to be in town we got a lovely breakfast it wasn't even one of those hollywood

things where i was like i would love to be in your next project it was literally me being like i need to process this with you like this wasn't well this was one of my favorite movies of all time i still believe this to be true. What a great year for movies. I'm going to say it. It's really a good, strong year. And I will say this, out of everything I've seen so far this year, and I haven't seen everything, but out of everything I've seen so far this year,

just involuntarily and suddenly moved to intense state of weeping. And I'm talking about the scene where Ki-Hwa Kwon is like, you have to be kind! When he said you have to be kind, Bowen, I swear to God, like, either way, I was sobbing in a mess.

You have not experienced impact, emotional impact in your life anything like being a queer asian person watching this movie and seeing the scene in the parking lot just or just the whole thing just is so it's just so perfect and oh my god we've already gotten to tell our friend our guest how proud we are how in awe we are I mean I was like always not just when I have a huge

movie always always but there's something so powerful special about watching her walk down this hallway in all these different outfit changes while the lights flicker and I'm like, holy shit. I know that person.

Well, it's not even that. It's like whoever this person is, she is like the fucking villain of this. And she's a fucking megastar. Megastar. To say nothing of the fact that this is someone who we love. Yes. It's also the most Steph Shue movie of all time. And I have to say so many things to her about it

and the fact is we're going to get the opportunity to right now please welcome finally to Lost Culture Is This podcast the one the only Stephanie Shue take your hands off your mouth

oh my god oh you guys I really yeah i've been clutching my face because i'm smiling so big and just giggling and honestly when i listen to this podcast when i'm on like long drives or whatever i'm like those motherfuckers are my friends just giggling and i don't know how y'all are so witty i just don't even know it i mean you always have you you know i love you i miss you too my year was running into you at the damn clark street diner where everything that was amazing people name drop you guys to me not knowing that we know each other and it makes me

feel hot inside like i it's sexy you know i'm like oh oh you mean matt matt rogers long island's very own also i not to call you out but your long island really came out and jk rowling oh is it rolling i don't know what it is but there was something about how you were saying rowling rowling rowling jk rowling you have the ear for accents. This has always been true. Steph has the ear for everything. And that's, can I say, when I watched this movie, Everything Everywhere All at Once, and there was the whole thing about the bagel,

putting everything on a bagel. I'm like, if that isn't Steph's shoe, I don't know what is. Like, when you read this script, were you not like, holy fuck? Like, it must have been like insane to read it and be like because you so spiritually are this movie yeah well you know it's funny i've had a lot of people like ex-partners specifically will come out of the woodwork and they've been like this movie is so your essence and it does make me feel quite seen when i first met the daniels on nora's show and bowen's show aguafina's nor from queens i felt like i met soulmates yeah um and i think so when i read the script for everything everywhere

it just it did really click and recently the daniels um we were at this like film festival and they showed my audition clip to the audience. It was really special. It was really special. Cause that sounds more defined. They asked me beforehand and I said, I'm not going to watch it cause I want to be surprised, but just don't make me look bad, you know?

But what was so crazy was when I watched, it was the bagel introduction monologue. And I, the first thing I said after I saw it in a public space i was like i really got this movie yeah yeah i don't know why but i really understood it it's probably not coincidental no it feels very this movie has a lot of um key's wife echo is our was our translator she's amazing and she after our first table read she said you know this script has a very strong soul and it has gathered all the souls and like-minded souls to tell it wow okay

okay okay and it's also hello it's also reached a lot of souls yes i can't think of a movie like this um in recent memory and i don't i guess i don't i'm not the biggest and if i don't have the context for it but like i feel like there hasn't been a movie like this where like people really there's there's a pretty universal everyone's on the same page totally about talk about this movie. I mean, even people who hate it, I feel like understand what it's trying to do and can appreciate it. There was a man who came up to me in Napa. I was just in Napa. Don't you love this? Okay, this is Las Culturistas, okay?

You know, this is for the fans. This is the tone of the podcast. But it was at Napa Film Festival, and this man came up to me after the screening. And he's like, you know, I love you and Marvelous Mrs. Maisel. But I got to say, as an older white man, you know, that was hard for me. That was, I really, I just couldn't wait to get out. And then he said, but, you know, my wife's Filipino. So there's that.

So there's that. And I was and i was like well thank you for being honest and it's okay like not everything is supposed to be for everybody um and yet we're the one and then yet supposedly like we're the kinds of people who are like obsessed with identity politics but meanwhile this guy is leading with my wife's filipino oh and i'm old and white yeah all right um insane also like if i hear like a criticism of the movie from people it's that it's a lot right totally but then also that's like intrinsically what the point is totally it is about like finding something very simple in the volume you know what i mean like that's what i loved about it so much and we had michelle on

the podcast which was such an honor i mean and like we'll get into what it was like to you know work with her but i think that that's something that especially the second time i watched it not on the edible i was able to really find was like wow really what this is is a very simple story about family and love. And I think that the sort of like, I guess if there's a metaphor, is that it can feel like there's a lot more. But really what's actually important is very simple. And it's about love and connection.

And this is a story about family. And specifically, in many ways, finding each other again through so much change, which can feel very loud. I don't know if that's like me being simplistic about it. No, it's 100%. Yes, totally. And I mean, this has been a really freaking crazy year,

but I feel I couldn't shake hands with Hollywood in any more honest of a way because this is so much... You know, I do want movies like this to exist and i and i feel it's been really healing actually to see that it works or that people still have room to be surprised or show up to a movie theater leave their house gather together or you know have a cultural moment together in a time when you know we're so inundated so you know how i've always been i've been like you know the business wants me but i don't know if i want it but that's very real though i mean that's my thing with steph is like it really has always

felt like you don't give a fuck about this like in a real way like you really like an artist thanks i i think you were very much a role model, even though we're all in the same cohort. Steph was someone who, reader, probably keyed into something, was getting a lot of great opportunities and really meeting the occasion, rising to the occasion

always, obviously. But it was so refreshing to from afar, or check in with you and you'd always be like, yeah, I don't know. Like this isn't all it's cracked up to be. But in a way that wasn't like withered or like cynical. It was just like, I know my boundaries so well. I'm such a defined person within myself.

And like that is a that is a special thing. So it's so cool to see you keep that. And like that's so that's so beautiful that you say that you couldn't have asked to shake hands with Hollywood in a more honest way. Because not everybody gets that. People shake hands with Hollywood for the first time in ways that are very cloaked in a lot of bullshit. Yeah, totally. Also, for the listeners, nobody knows that, well, maybe they do. I don't know.

Well, we all went to college together. Yeah. We made a big, trust me, when we saw the movie, we made a huge deal about the fact that you were so... Well, no, I heard you roasted me. I've told you this. It's because Mama did not respond to a text for like 48 hours. But it's okay.

No, no, that's going to be my cultural moment event. Oh, okay, okay, okay. We'll put a pin in it. We'll put a pin in it. But I just want to say, I'm kind of cloaked in darkness right now so you can't see the tears that's right into my eyes, but Steph, I'm literally just

and this is what I mean by you've always known what to do for you and you've always really followed what your spirit was telling you to do because do you remember do you remember when we had lunch in Hayden Hall? I will always remember this. So I was the director of Hammercats,

and you were in the sketch group Hammercats with me, and you wanted to get lunch with me, and you were telling me that you were going to step away from the group because you wanted to do a different type of thing. And I was, of course, disappointed that you would leave the group because you were always so much fun to be around, and you always killed everything everything and you were my friend but then we actually got into a discussion about like you know what it is we wanted in life

and i remember like like it was like involuntary but i like really i like broke down at that lunch and you said something to me that i'll always remember you said you know it hurts so much because you know you can do it and i was like i i you said that to me and i always i always remembered that and so like yeah and so just like you know having like you someone so talented that i believed in so much to like sort of tell me that you believed in me was like very very important to me and so like it's not a surprise to me and i actually feel very like emotional now, like as we're all doing like quote unquote well, but are also very happy and fulfilled in the things that we're doing that that's true because, you know, it's not true for everybody.

And so I am just so proud of you and I'm so excited for you. Oh, I can't believe I said that. I hate it. We're not even 20 minutes in. I know. I'm just like, I don't know. There's just a lot going on. I mean, the both of you.

I mean, that's the thing. Did you just say there's a lot going on? Well, I just mean there's a lot going on. I mean, we haven't gotten into it yet, but I've also been thinking about Liz a lot. Oh, Liz Suedos. Oh, my God. I was reflecting on this, too. I mean, you know, before we even get into all that stuff, I just have to say, y'all,

both of you are. no i'm getting emotional you two have always been the hardest working people i know seriously like i just remember you know we were romping around skidmore we're not we were we were all such messy whores. Messy whores. That was the year that Born This Way by Lady Gaga came out. That's crazy. Bowen letting everyone know that because he came out at the festival. You remember that? No, that was the year before.

That was the year before. But you did come out at Skidmore, which was a big news. But that was 2010. But you two, seriously, I mean mean to see both of you rise but also rise together and apart has been so inspiring and i feel like you two actually because i think honestly some some of my distance from the industry i think growing up was because i just never saw a place for myself in it. Right.

And so I think that right now I'm, I'm going through this moment where I feel like I actually have dreams for the first time for myself. And, you know, I'm like, Oh man, this is really possible.

And in so many ways, I actually think I didn't necessarily really, I believed in myself as a human and as a soul on this planet, but I didn't necessarily believe in myself as an artist in the world. And I feel like you two from the very beginning have always seen what I couldn't even see in myself.

And I also saw in the both of you how hard you worked because you loved the thing that you do and you just defied all odds time and time again and it's just crazy like it's just so crazy and also not crazy to see both of you where you are and you make it seem so easy but nobody knows the matt rogers in college who was cranking out new pages every single week for our sketch group. Like nobody's business. You have always been prolific in a way that I just is beyond me. So, well, I did want to mention one thing, which was Bowen.

I've told you this, but like, I feel like I haven't gotten to say it to Steph yet, but the original Everything Everywhere All at Once was a sketch I wrote for Stephanie, which was, do you remember Flard? I will never forget Flard. Matt wrote everything for me. He did. So there was a sketch that we did,

which was, it was me frantically looking for my son. So it was like me. This is the plot of everything ever all at once. And I think we did it with Jack Quaid too. I think David Sidorov did it and then we did it with Jack later. But it was like me frantically looking for my son and describing my son. And my son was like all genders,

all heights, all weights, all races, all things. And then like had different traits and stuff and he was like the person was like what like describe your son like we can't find him if your son is not everything and then steph walked in like like literally just like as large which was the name of the child but she had like one long arm and a good titty on her head and like you know all these things like every prop in the closet and she was like she just made this like weird steph noise and but that was the original everything ever wore all at once everything ever wore all at once yeah

uh this is typecasting really i mean matt matt wrote wrote for me not only flared, but also moose. Moose! Which bone is in that video? No, that's Andy. No, you weren't. You're being racist towards Asians. Andy Zhou, who is in Brooklyn, who's still hanging out.

Amazing. We had some fun, folks. I just got coffee with Mike Spence the other week. We picked up as we we had some fun folks i just got coffee with my expense the other week and it was just we picked up as if we had never like we picked up right where we left off and it had been years since i'd seen him in person and it was just a moment of like wow this is like this is an important time in our lives oh yeah and i'm glad that like and i did express to him i was like i do have some guilt every now and then of like not keeping up enough and i don't you don't neither of you need to like affirm this or be like yeah me too but like i feel like i've sort of like done a bad

job of like done a bad job but i just i have not like managed those relationships or like cultivated them in a way that like i've not watered them in a way that they deserve watering because they those are those are people who really were your support system in that time helped you along the way taught you things you didn't you didn't know before i love those people i i actually i was just literally having that thought while i was driving here and because i was thinking about what my cultural rant was going to be. But I think, you know, it's hard to keep up with people and we're inundated with information and our thumbs can only do so much. And there's only enough hours in the day. And I

try to be gentle with myself because there are so many people that I love so deeply. And I wish sometimes I guess this is what reunions are for, but I wish sometimes you could just be in a space together and really dive deep because how are you going to, I'm not like, when people ask me, how are you on a text message? I'm like, I don't, I get stressed. I do, I get stressed.

Because I want to be so, I want to be thoughtful in my answer and I also want to hold space for the other person's answer. So if I don't have like 30 minutes to- This is so you. I know, oh my God. That's why the text doesn't get responded to

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Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.

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one how are you doing with because the movie is something that you guys shot in 2019 before the pandemic it comes out april 2022 and you're basically doing some version of campaigning we'll call it until like for the rest of awards season like this is a lot because i was thinking about this i'm like i wonder how stuff feels about this in terms of talking about the movie, thinking about the movie. I'm sure it's, like, incredible as an experience. But also, like, I don't know how you feel, Matt, but I feel like the whole cycle of Fire Island coming out is, like, a distant dream. It's so far away in my past. And yet, like, depending on the project, for something like this for you, you step it's like you are really sitting in

this for like a pretty long amount of time yeah it's been honestly a roller coaster and i remember jamie lee curtis said to me after she saw it for the first time when we were all at south by southwest she was she like clutched me by the shoulders and i was like just stay centered oh and um this is gonna be a mind fuck and a wild ride for you and i was like jamie i'm a grown-ass woman like listen this ain't my first this ain't my first show this isn't my first rodeo also i was on my whale i was on my whale i was on my way to go reunite with three of my best friends that I hadn't seen because of the pandemic and we were gonna go watch whales give birth and migrate north and she was like I'm so happy you're gonna be with the whales I'm like yeah me too um and um and uh I'm so happy you're gonna be with the whales also

feels like the most Jamie Lee Curtis thing it is yeah. But I had no idea what she meant. And I honestly, as centered as I do feel, there's been a lot of whiplash. The highs are high, the lows are low. It makes you, it's just confusing. And I feel like it's a hard thing that not a lot of people relate to also of just having a pop-off moment. I will say that I was surprised when it, there was a recent moment I was filming in Australia and it's a crazy time difference. And it was the first time that I've been actually completely alone for the last year and like the time difference is so crazy so when I'm awake everybody's sleeping so I couldn't even work during the day because everybody's paused and and I think I was having a whiplash of I've

been going and going and going and it finally just stopped and I I hit like a, I got really sad. I got really sad actually. And had to take, I'm glad that I hit that moment because I've had to zoom. I've been able to zoom out and understand the longevity of this film is so much more. I'm speaking really abstractly. No, we're with you. We're with you. Yeah.

I just, you know, this shit, I had a driver call it Holly weird. Yeah, it is. It's Holly weird. And, you know, it affects you. And I have been affected. Yeah. Not any element of it is what you think it is.

No, it's... And then all of a sudden, like, you see the business element of it and like the promotional element of it. And it can be fun, but it's also exhausting and you also can buy into it. And then when it's gone,

it's like, whoa, wait, what? Well, that was like, that's a thing where I, you know, I've never cared about any of this stuff. And I obviously am receiving a lot of attention and affirmation right now and at the same time i can feel that this will eventually go away like you're hot you're hot and then you're not for a second right whatever until the next thing but in some ways i was like

oh my god on the other side of this also i i just didn't ever want to feel tossed aside yeah yeah but that's because I it got to me do you see what I'm saying like I wasn't able to just see the big picture and feel centered in myself and understand that it really is just about the work and continuing to do good work that you believe in and putting it out there there was something in the frenzy that really started to catch up to me that yeah i i was like on the wave and i i yeah i i don't know how else to describe it um yeah betty gilpin was on the podcast recently and she described what i think we're talking about as the metaphor was that part in aladdin where he's in the cave of wonder and they're like you can't touch anything except the lamp don't touch any of the diamonds the jewels

the coins any of that and that's kind of what this time in your life might feel like where it's like there's all this stuff around you and all your only job is to like go towards the lamp but i feel like you you've always known what your lamp is and you've always kind of had it in the palm of your hand sometimes i feel like i my lamp i don't have no idea what my lamp looks like i don't know where it is i don't know how i'm gonna get it but i'm constantly touching coins and and pearls and diamonds i'm like i feel like i am in this zone now where i'm kind of losing the thread a little bit. And I'm like, I totally relate to what you're saying. You know, I read this piece.

I've been really into reading op-ed pieces or interviews with actors. And I've never been like this, but I have been just so desperate to understand this moment that I'm going through and hear from other people what their journey has been like. And I remember reading a piece in the LA Times on Brad Pitt, and he said something along the lines of he got to a point where so many people were telling him what he wanted that he didn't even know what he wanted anymore. And I read that earlier this year, maybe in March or something. And I've just really been thinking about that where I have to constantly check in with myself and make sure I'm just checking in and asking myself what I want. And there's a lot of noise and it's a whole fun Babylonian show, but you take what is right for you

and then you don't have to take anything else. Yeah. And also, I think it can't be fun if you just keep telling yourself, don't take it too seriously. You know what I'm saying? And ultimately,

what is so great about this is everything, everywhere, all at once for the rest of the year, the rest of the quote-unquote season is going to do great. And just the fact that it's in the conversation so much already says and shows how much people have connected to this as a piece of art because it has made people feel a certain way and that ultimately is the thing that's at the kernel at the center of all of this stuff that is really cool for you to be able to have

and can maybe be the lamp, which is that this piece of art that you created is actually not only so stiff, but also so universal and so moving, so much so that multiple people that I've talked to have seen it more than once. It has done incredibly well at the box office in a year where a lot has not, especially a lot of like, you know, lower

budget things or however you want to call it, like smaller scale things. Totally. That is a huge triumph in a time of the pandemic. You know what I mean? And so there are so many narratives like outside of the self that you can like lean on and let guide you for however long like this process lasts and it's just that is a really cool thing because not everyone gets to talk about stuff that they're in that they love with passion you know i was talking to like this girl jessica who does my hair and makeup for some events and she tells me that she works and she says i hate doing this no no well she's she literally is looking at my face she says i

hate this no no she's the best and but she works with a lot of these actors and i was like god like i've been really lucky this year like everything i've talked about i genuinely love and she goes oh yeah that is not the case a lot of the time like it's a lot to go out there and sound effusive about things that are a you know bad or b things that you didn't have a good experience on or c with people you fucking hate totally like because that happens all the time i know i i've been just feeling grateful i'm i'm fully like leaning in now I'm just, I'm leaning in. I'm having fun. I'm soaking it up. When people come up to me and they say,

thank you so much. This movie meant so much to me. I'm really practicing receiving it all the way to the bottom of my heart and say like, oh, this person is also trying to give me something. So don't deflect it or don't be like, oh yeah, that was crazy.

Really hold it. Someone is trying to tell you that art that you made, that you are a part of or something you express changed them. So hold that for them and hold that for yourself. But yeah, I'm like so freaking lucky that I love my cast. I'm so close with the Daniels. We have text threads. You know, I'm genuinely excited to see them at these events

that can be nerve wracking sometimes. And it just feels like I get to spend time with people I love and celebrate this thing that I really believe in. And so be it. When will I ever get it again? Who knows? What is an interaction between steph shu and jamie lee curtis like she is so amazing she's i get the sense that she is yeah just she walks into every room just completely owns it i don't even know how she just has no fear she seems fearless and everything that she is and that she does. And it's really inspiring. She hates staying out late. So we were just texting because the Governor's Awards are tomorrow. And we were all like, we're so excited to see each other. And she's like, just to let you know, I'm going to be there. And I will quickly leave because I just can't do late nights and I have to wake up early tomorrow for work.

And she just has, I mean, talk about boundaries. She just knows herself. And it's awesome. She's like, I can show up. I'm going to do the, that's work too. And I'm happy to see everyone. And then I don't need to do the whole party. She knows why she's going.

She knows exactly why. Yeah. Yeah. She knows why she's going. She knows exactly why. Yeah. Yeah, she's so powerful. And loves Instagram. Are you guys going to the Gotham Award? Loves Instagram? Yeah. I think most of us are going. There's still some TBD.

Are you going to be there? We're going to be there for Fire Island. Fire Island's actually getting the Ensemble Award. Yeah. That's amazing. That was so nice of them to give it to us. It was very nice of them. Can you guess what my favorite scene in that movie is?

I'm thinking what's the most Steph scene on Fire Island? The most Steph scene on Fire Island. Is it the heads up scene? No. Is it James Cullen and Bowen at the end? Because that's my favorite scene. Oh, I love that scene also. But no. It's earlier

on. Is it everyone dancing on the dock? It's dock related. Oh, it's a scene also, but no. It's earlier on. Is it everyone dancing in the dock? It's dock related. Oh, it's a scene where we're in silhouette. Yes, yes, totally. You're in silhouette. You're getting invited to the party. You walk on the dock over to your friends to say you got invited to the party. Matt and all their friends go,

and then you're like, shut up or whatever. And then you walk slowly in silhouette over to the other boys again that is that's in my top five too it's a good scene it's so well directed because andrew gets the wide and it's a movie about group dynamics it's a movie about the way people like are pulled in certain directions socially and so like it's just a perfect way of and like everyone's body language is so good like it says so much about each character the way that they're situated and standing and their posture it's it's a great direction you know like that's andrew on like

i love him you should work with andrew you guys are mad you guys are mad haven't you oh that's powerful steph's true power that. Also, what was very hot just now was when Bowen said, you know, Andrew just gets the wide. I was like, okay, cinephile. Okay, movie star. Oh my God. Okay, Emmy nominee. Stop, stop.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so I want to transition into asking you the question which is the central question of lost culture is this wouldn't you agree about i would agree and we've gotten a little preview of this this is going to be a very powerful answer i think this is the question what was the culture that made you say culture was for me this is um the pop culture the wider culture the thing the person that made you say i'm gonna move into a cultural direction oh i'm gonna cry because matt's here too um yeah i would say it was this woman elizabeth suedos liz suedos. When we were in college, she directed this thing called The Reality Show, which brought together a bunch of students to write sketches and music for

around mental health issues and also your first year of experience in college. Matt and I were both in it. And I met her very early. I saw it my freshman year at Welcome Week. And I was like, they were doing crazy things. They did a condom song. And people were just being condoms on stage. And I was like, I want to do that. So I sought her out. And she is an amazing person.

And I think she taught me what it means to be an artist, which is to say that it is something you don't hold lightly. It's a responsibility and the essence of it or the care that you must take with your art or give with your art is to offer more goodness in the world and to bring healing. So every opportunity that you get to speak or that you get to make something, it should have the greater good in mind. And it doesn't mean it has to be precious. In fact, it should be shocking and subversive and wild and really say something, but complacency is just not an option. And yeah, she was my mentor as to so many of us. And all I've ever wanted was to help people, you know, and help myself move through this world

in a way that's a little less confusing. And when art is able to do that whether it's comedy or music or anything it's just so healing it's like you feel you understand what it means to be alive you know part of me still can't believe that she has passed away um because she really would enter and exit and re-enter i'm sure your life as well as my life um creatively and bowen actually got to know her a tiny little bit when you were going to do the shanghai version of the show right i was i i didn't end up doing the show but i was very lucky enough to just even be considered for it to talk to liz at that point like I'd heard what a wonderful person she was what an impactful person she was I mean she I was like all my friends were saying this woman is incredible and she has an amazing sort of just her career was so prolific so yeah I didn't really get to interact with her

too much but you guys really got to know her well she was an ob award winner and uh you know Tony nominated playwright for um this show called the runaways which you know uh people that are aware of and involved in theater that listen to the pod might remember she actually discovered diane lane like she's got like a very very long she worked with meryl streep years and years ago she worked with tons of people in the business you know who shouted her out when she passed? Lin-Manuel Miranda. Like, she was a hugely influential person in the theatrical, especially downtown New York theater community.

And when she sort of spent her time at NYU, we were lucky enough to work with her. And I always look back at her like, the way that I can distill it the most is she was the person who literally and figuratively taught me how to use my voice because do you remember stuff like the vocal exercises she would have us do just like these she was very influenced by like um tribal music and like the way like tribal vocalization and she would have us like essentially like have these guttural like shouting vocal like techniques that maybe were not necessarily always vocally safe but they were always taking some player somewhere like some player some player they would take you some player title of that um she and she would love that shit you know what i mean some player she would think

that was stupid like i have my special coming out and i kept thinking to myself like like what would she say about it and i hope what she was i hope what she would say is that she would i hope that she would smile like her smile and she would say this is so stupid you know what i mean like i just i think that's what she would say and i always i loved impressing her like i always loved coming in with my dumbest idea and my dumbest bit and her being like her smiling her iconic smile with her mane of hair and just like knowing that you had gotten something right because she really had a presence you know like she had the x-factor man and you know i remember that summer matt and you really cracked open because i feel like you were you knew me the sketch commute the sketch exactly and that

that really did like do something that was kind of the first time that you were performing outside of sketch right in in college and i just remember that really that you were nervous and you also really cracked open because you've got this incredible singing voice but like you know singing can be so nerve-wracking because you think you got to do it a certain kind of way. And Liz completely scraps that. And I just remember this whole soul of a expressive being came out of you. And I think also I remember, you know, the way that she does it. It gives you permission to take yourself and your work even more seriously with more responsibility because like she encourages the funny she wants things to be really freaking hilarious but that they can also be about things um yeah and uh actually the first time that she this is actually a full circle moment but the first time we had a rehearsal together we were sitting on the ground and she looks over at me she had braces at the time and she's like you remind me of someone i know what's her name margaret cho

she knows her yeah i think they work together on some whatever something um but i have a quote from her i know you guys are going to edit this together so who knows if this will make it but i want to can i share it with you yes please yes we're not going to cut it out so um i found this recently in my notes which i don't use my phone as you know but i this is in there. And this was set at her memorial. And I guess I kept it in my phone because it's so powerful. This is a quote from Liz. We have to try to do the impossible. Extract magic from what everyone else thinks is ordinary.

We have to find the wizards in ourselves. Turn ourselves inside out like pockets and keep shaking until we find all the dimes and lint and leftover movie ticket stubs in the lining. I mean, we've got to dig. The possibilities keep coming, one after another. Explorers, yes. Adventurers, yes. Daredevils, yes. Lifesavers, yes. Athletes, yes. Humans, yes. Children, yes. Actors, yes. Magicians, yes. Look at all the possibilities. I think it's time we abandoned this wasted, dried up world of ordinary wishers and dreamed like a bunch of maniacs. If there is anything left in the theater

for anyone, it's that we can all still dream of a better world together yeah she was a very special person and i i i think i like i actually didn't you mentioned her memorial and i remember i didn't go to her memorial because i was like too emotional about it um but but when i knew she would love you because i because i i remember like hearing that you were going to go in and meet on it and i just knew that she would like be so attracted to your energy but yeah no it's um she that's how sounds like her and i just remember like she she really did have a transformative quality and she touched so many people yeah i'd had a difficult life yeah i i just remember that year that matt started reality show and

there was this transformation there was this huge change in like the way you carried yourself and the way you like valued your own talents i mean i remember there being this shift and like we all kind of remarked on it like wow like this reality show thing is really is really impacting matt in a really cool way like you were you were doing what you what we all knew you were so good at you know like you because because people matt's journey in college was freshman year he was you know kid from long island still kind of unlearning a lot of stuff from like that environment right and it's just so beautiful matt that like you were able to be brave enough to go into these spaces that you weren't sure how they were gonna how you were gonna do in them how they were gonna accept you

or not accept you you go into comedy you do sketch and then you go into reality show and you're just you you just keyed into every groove of each of those places and like you just soar and like i mean that that that is the thing that like i took away from liz anytime anyone talked about her and in meeting her was like this thing you guys are talking about her presence like she is someone who, like, the air is all... It really was. Just gets suctioned to her because you have to pay attention to what she's saying, even when she's not saying anything at all. Oh, man.

She made you feel like things were limitless. You know what I mean? Like, she actually didn't really believe in limits. Like, she didn't really... So she made you feel like the sky was the limit. And I think that you know you're talking about it with me a lot but with steph i feel like you know you were always such a boundless talent you know what i mean like you you so were that you sort of were the bar you

almost i remember almost feeling like you were like an equal to her in that way like you know what i'm saying like and so you were such an inspiring like performance presence and stuff like that but it was like that for everyone that worked with her i mean like if you ask like shana she would say that if you ask like all these people that worked with her that they would all say that and i think that there's something to the fact that like so many of the people that she worked with um continued to succeed and stuff like that but yeah i mean and she was a wacko too like truly like there were some moments like where i was like i don't know what the fuck this is like do you know she had like an hbo documentary it was called my depression

sigourney weaver narrated it sigourney weaver narrated it and um the way that she had us audition for it was we all went to her apartment and sat in a circle and all read the lines one after another and i'm like i know this isn't the practical way to do this there were some things about it that i was like i don't know liz like and like um but aren't you glad that you did it the unconventional way like absolutely yeah i mean like she played by her own fucking rules and i also think talking about like you know not needing quote-unquote this like the the um the validation of the industry and stuff like i sometimes think about her as like someone that maybe did want that in a way i think that she did want to move beyond the the downtown theater world and i almost feel like, I know that she said some things to people before

she passed. She called, I won't say who, but someone was going to do a musical on Broadway instead of do her show. And she said, you're bourgeois. You know what I mean? You're making the wrong choice. And I think it was because she did actually regard commercial

success with selling out. And so that was something that also weighed on me a little bit like i felt a little tacky sometimes for one is wanting to succeed in a commercial sense because when you finally do invest in like the theatrical community and the community of creating your own work it can almost feel like you know you wrestle with like what's important and what's good and what's bad and what's you and what's them. Totally. She constantly was provoking questions like that in me and probably you too.

Oh, 100%. I mean, I think that's been my big grappling. I called her my mama. She came from La Mama. Ellen Stewart was her mama. So Liz was my mama and our mama. And I've been thinking about it like family trauma where I've been like, oh, Liz had baggage around the commercial sphere. think limitlessly and challenge ourselves to continue to push the envelope then there's actually great power in the amount of reach that we can have and it's just always going to be a balancing act but you know i i just had to check myself and being like you know i'm not too cool

for this right this is awesome right like even everything everywhere being a huge success i'm like no god she would love this movie stuff she'd be so proud of you for this she would absolutely love it the quote is very much the spirit of the film where it's like there's beauty and magic and the mundanity of things like that there's you don't need to be like all these other possibilities in the universe in the multiverse there's something gorgeous about just being who you are in the moment in the reality that you're in. Like, that's what she's saying there. When I found it, I sent it to the Daniels.

And I was like, can you believe that we, because we're, I was like, how did we find each other? It's kind of the meta version of the movie also. Somehow through all the noise that we found each other to tell this story. And that's nuts. But yeah, I think, Matt, I really relate to some of the questions you're asking. And I think I love what you're saying about limitlessness. And I think I challenge us both to,

and all three of us to, and everyone who's listening to us catching up, no, to just continue to remember that it is limitless and it even though the industry has so many bounds like 30 minute versus one hour versus the length of a special like that just is someone who decided that once and it could be changed at any moment. And we have to give ourselves space to remember that that's possible or else we'll lose ourselves. Like we'll get swallowed up and sad

because they can get sad. It sounds like the thing that Liz Suedos was able to do was just like give you meaning. And I've been saying this a lot in everything but it's like people are people are a little bit down right now because there's a nihilism going around where nothing means anything anymore and liz was someone who got you guys at the right time in your lives to explain and to like figure out for yourselves like why things mean important things i don't know that's a way of generalizing no i think that's no i think that's real i think

it's so abstract but but i think that's what happened with her with everyone she touched i'm actually looking up what lynn manuel said about her when she passed, because I remember I hadn't thought about it like this, but he said, Liz Suedos was using hip-hop on Broadway in 1978 ahead of everybody. A colossus, singular, unequaled. That's what he said about her. And that was in the height of all the Hamilton stuff. Because I think he really realized in that moment that she needed to get her flowers. Yeah. and stuff because i think he really realized in that moment that she needed to get her flowers yeah it's that thing that sucks sometimes when like someone gets their flowers like post you know something happening to them or you know but i really think that her impact was so much

larger than she probably felt and knew and she might have even said that she didn't care. But I think she did. That's all to say, like, everyone knew who she was in New York. You know what I mean? In New York theater. We love you, Liz. And can you talk a little bit about how you trained as a performer and an actress?

Yeah, totally. I started at the Atlantic Theater Company, which is David Mamet's company. And it's actually very cerebral and kind of all about script analysis. And it's actually very cerebral and kind of all about script analysis. So it was a very traditional acting upbringing. And then I went to the experimental theater wing, but I met Liz while I was at the Atlantic. And I don't know, I think I've just always, when I was in high school, people were like, oh, you should audition for

drama. And so that's kind of how I started doing that. And then someone was like, oh, you should. Brendan Naylor, who now works for Darren Aronofsky. He was an upperclassman at this public school. And he said, hey, you should really think about going to college for this. And I didn't even know that that was a thing. But I think I've always just, you know, liked to throw paint at the fucking wall. I'm like, who knows, you know liked to throw paint at the fucking wall yeah you always who knows you know and i think the only way i know how to find the nuance of things is if you explode it in all different directions and so liz i think she would yeah at those auditions she'd be like okay now

you're gonna sing fuck you by celo green as a turkey yeah that was a condom on for the first time you would sing it once and then she'd be like okay now you have to sing it and you are freezing cold like you might die and i was just like great exercise it was really cool and it truly got you and that's also like so steph was also a story pirate with bowen and i like like so when they were like okay you're gonna play a spoon who's going through a divorce like i understood it because of liz i think you know what i mean like when the kids would be like it's a spoon that's going through a divorce and he's sad because he doesn't want to like move away you know like and then like but you understood that because that's

something that liz would say you know totally yeah and there's also something really physical about it i don't know why but i've always felt very connected to physical comedy i have this theory that i love physical comedy because i grew up in an immigrant household so nobody's universal like it's universal and i i never got i even felt this when we were doing comedy in college where people would come in and it would be a Matthew McConaughey sketch and I'm like I don't feel like I know enough about Matthew McConaughey to know this understand how funny this sketch is and I remember just being like I guess I'll just be flarge yeah well you know that's we talk about that a lot though Steph because I feel like especially the three

of us like when we were all in those comedy groups at NYU, they were run by the straight boys. You know what I mean? Oh, totally. Bowen, I know you dealt with this over in Dangerbox, which is just like, you know, we all had to sort of learn their references and, like, get their bits and sense of humor,

like, you know, in a way that, like... And it wasn't nefarious, but it was just the way it had to be. And, like, it wasn't, like, anyone, like, being like, you have to learn these references. It was just like, okay, like, this is like this is the culture this is the culture within this group of people and that's and that's all it was this is a you know answer this how you wish yeah but do you feel that sometimes at

snull snull yeah no as in out like the sense of humor i do you always understand do you feel like you can always understand why things are funny or do you feel sometimes that there's a very specific formula that you kind of have to abide to there are so many filters that um a piece of writing goes through until it goes until it goes goes on air. And you always, and I'm sure every writer feels this way. Every cast member feels this way. They kind of want, and some,

sometimes, and sometimes I, I'm not too invested in my own work, which is a bad thing to say, but sometimes you just have to accept that, you know, they're not always going to be gold, but sometimes you want to go,

oh, but if only you knew the process that like, it was this other thing this other in this other context but that's not how comedy works there's a beauty in that there's a beauty in only doing one final product on a saturday of an idea something that was just an idea in your head on tuesday that's what's mind-blowing about snl and so i never like put too much pressure i never really analyze it too much. And I think it's okay.

But honestly, Steph, I think I need to hear this right now, like with what you're saying about Liz, which is that like there is this responsibility to like doing what we do, especially if we're lucky enough to get this opportunity that like the three of us like individually have or have collectively. And you know what? Total aside, but I'm flashing back to a memory that is very stressful for me, which is the first story pirate show I directed was Matt's first year on story pirates. And I think it was yours too. But we all went to this middle school. Do you guys remember? Yeah.

We all went to this middle school and the guys remember yeah we all went to this middle school and the creative story was chaos yes chaos and it was just so wild and kooky and and the and the kids they were seventh graders and so at that age they're like really like trolling you and they're really trying to fuck with you and we're trying to put on this wholesome show and it was a stressful moment and I did go home that day being like, I failed my cast, I failed these kids. No, I remember this show. The three of us were all there

and God bless you all for like, see, this is what true this is what the years means when we say we know each other for a long time it means that we've seen each other in weird, bizarre contexts and situations yeah like being bullied by seventh graders like like because the creative story was like we would take suggestions from the audience and like you'd have to do what they said also navigate like when they were like trying to

fuck with you or make you do something weird but also like you want to honor their ideas right and so i i remember like the creative story got wild and out of hand i remember stephanie being like i can't believe we just did that but also like that's important you know what i mean like that's yeah and i can't even tell you how many times like we fucking bit it like doing oh yeah like and also like you remember how seriously we took it too like i remember when we go to skidmore we looked at that as a huge opportunity to show the other colleges like what we were made of and then all i can remember about that and rightfully so is bowen coming out of the closet

me and steph being drunk i remember me, you, and Sudi, Steph taking pictures of each other. We were stacked on top of each other. I remember like... Steph was in the bathroom with someone. Yeah, we remember that. I knew that was going to come up. I knew that was going to come up. Oh wait, oh my god.

No, no, no. We don't have to get into it. We can get into it. You know what? It's college. You were horny drunk messes for no. We don't have to get into it. We can get into it. But you know what? It's college. We were horny drunk messes for sure. We were definitely in college. We were in college. Because it wasn't even that.

It was that we went to NYU where being in college meant something so arbitrary. And we weren't having the traditional quote unquote college experience. And then we would go to this honest to goodness liberal arts school and then we like got it all out of our systems I had like a highlight college memory at Skidmore it was me and some kid from Yale making out

and looking at a tool shed and I'm like that's all I need I'm like this is all I need I was never really that like debaucherous at NYU, but Skidmore was where we all just got it out. Just never forget Bowen Young coming out at Skidmore.

Neil Casey, I'm a homo! To Neil Casey, he would go on to be the villain in Ghostbusters. And he was just like, that's great, man. He was like, that's great. That's so cool. He was the head writer on Hot Dog. He's the head writer on hot dog he's the head writer on hot dog like literally

the world is too small it's just so funny it's so small it is tiny tiny yeah okay see I'm a hobo well do you remember

do you remember who beat us our we had like a five hammer cats the sketch group had a five five month

like streak the rain at ucb midnight madness or whatever the hammer hammer yeah midnight cage match yeah cage match or whatever and do you remember who showcase showdown something like that yeah or showcase showdown i don't remember do you remember who beat us who it was rami and jonathan and Jonathan Braylock. Whoa! Yes, Rami! They were a sketch duo. There were two people. We were 1,200. They beat us and it was crazy and we were so bummed. And now, you know, everyone's fancy.

Do you guys remember, there was a moment when, at Skidmore, John Gabrus taught us a workshop, taught Dangerbox and Hammercats a workshop. Yes, of course I remember this. I was scared to do improv. But everyone was so funny. And there was an exercise basically

where he would hand you a card from a deck of cards. And if you had a pip, you were low status. If you had a suit, if you had a face card, you were high status. And then it'd be like two people on a date. And then I think I remember it was Steph Shue and Mike Spence. I remember this. I remember this. And it was Steph Shue and Mike Spence I remember this

and it was both of you were so funny but that was a moment for me where I go God Steph Shue is the funniest motherfucker on this planet Steph Shue really is the funniest I want you to do more like obviously everything is funny and like Maisel is a comedy show

but like they don't even know how funny Steph is well we should do something funny together. Obviously, that's what should happen. I know. We all got to do something together. We really have to. We have enough muscle between us, I think, to really... We just have to figure out

whatever the story is. No, seriously. I'm like, that would be so fun. Oh my God, no. I mean, that would be the joy of my life. I mean, 100%. With these two right here. Right here, my sisters. These two.

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On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.

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asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one okay so this is our one minute segment that we do on every episode where we take a minute to but what would you say drag to really examine oh drag is a little violent yeah you're right i don't think so honey is not negative it's cathartic cathartic absolutely yeah and i okay i think i have something okay this is matt rogers i don't think so any as time starts now i don't think so honey i witnessed a car blow up on the Hudson Yards where i'm staying there was no one in the car but the car had exploded i was leaving i was leaving oh my god i was leaving the hotel I'm in, and I hear this insane booming noise.

And then I see everyone just turn around and look at it. And I'm thinking the worst. I'm like, oh, my God. I never found out how the car exploded. But I turned around, and there was a car on fire in the middle of the street on 33rd between 10th and 11th. And I was looking at it, and I was like, like see not this is new york but this is new york i mean like this is a crazy ass moment and i finally i was like no one was hurt they were like no one was hurt i'm like well then how did they know the car was gonna explode the way we're all

just standing there watching the car anyone could have been there and everyone looking at each other and we're also desensitized like we only ever see shit on our phone and there we are standing there watching a car explode and be on fire and no one is doing anything. You hear the sirens in the background and I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. That is some Michael Clayton GTA Grand Theft Auto stuff.

Wow. I didn't even text any of our friends about it, Bo, because I was like, I don't want to upset anyone. But when I tell you, I heard boom. And then everyone standing nearby it was crazy it was one of the craziest things i've ever seen and then it like shook me for like an hour i like i was gonna take a walk on the streets because whenever i'm in new york i take a long walk on the streets um but then i just walked around the fucking you know

hudson yards that mall i was like i'm staying inside of the mall where it's safe. Where the most dangerous thing is the prices at theory. You know what I mean? I'm going to stay in here. Because they're so low, they're a deal. When I saw a car explode, I said, I don't think so, honey. Oh, that's the only thing you can

say in that situation. Should I have gone up next to the car and pulled out my phone and done a TikTok and said, I don't think so, honey, and posted it? Would that have been icon behavior? Absolutely. Absolutely. Wow. I'm so sorry that happened. I have something.

Do you have something for I don't think so, honey? So that's my thing in the culture that I'm trying. I can go. You got it? Okay. This is Bowen Young's I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey ATM fees? Um, no, no, no. That's not

good for me, sweetie. And for my bank account, no price is worth me getting money. You're gonna charge... Guys, I'm pulling this out of my ass. Don't ever, ever show me $2.75 on that screen.

I should be getting this for free. It's my money. Why are you holding it hostage? 30 seconds. Give me $20 now. Why do I need the cash? Because I need to go buy a fruit. A piece of fruit at the bodega.

And they're not... I'm not going to use my card for that. Huh, we're in a tap-tap culture. Fifteen seconds. Give me cash for free culture. Do you see me at the strip club tipping the dancers and going, that'll be 25 cents? No. Five seconds.

This is a broken system. Everybody call your senator. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute call your senator. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute my girl's iconic I don't think so, honey, on today. You know what I do think so, honey? That since I've been away from New York, apparently, all the corner falafel stands, street meat, they take credit cards now.

They take debit cards now. There's not that many cash-only places. Look at what's here. Oh my god. Street meat. Street meat, honey. That's what I miss about New York. You can be walking and

working out and getting your steps in so you can eat the street meat. You can have that slice of pizza. Or the McDonald's. Don't act like it ain't true. Oh oh i would never even pretend to not be the face of mcdonald's i mean you wait you really knew me when i know you need a you need to be the face of mcdonald's i think this is this is truly outing me stephanie really was there like i think i was eating mcdonald's at every single hammer cats meeting monday nights

when we would have our writers meetings i i would pretty much be you pick up from the one on broadway oh yes the one across from tish that place has seen some shit oh darling dear darling dear is it still there was the one near youtube oh and i think it's not there anymore which is when you lived on what was it? 6th and A. There's no McDonald's scarier than the one in Midtown. Like in the 30s. Yeah. And the one by UCB

too. The one that's by the Port Authority. That is a haunted McDonald's. There's a movie in there. Any thick New York City McDonald's it's just cuckoo, cuckoo, c new york city mcdonald's there's it's just cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo yeah goes down and there's one that's you you take the d downtown i think it's like second avenue d and you get out and there's mcdonald's right there that one's haunted

you need an endorsement somebody talking about all the haunted mcdonald's locations well you know we did it after the mcrib yeah we did it after the mcrib yeah and we did a whole episode devoted to mcdonald's you did yeah it was the 12th day of culture oh no yes i know this it was the first day of culture which is the first the first mcdonald's opens its doors i remember that episode i remember listening to it on the holidays iconic 12 days of culture yes oh um yes well don't be don't be dragging me for my mcdonald's consumption i love it we've all been there okay so you know what i love is steph shoe and whatever her i don't think so honey is going to be are you ready queen I'm ready this is Jeff shoes I don't think so honey her time starts now okay I don't think so phones fuck them this is so annoying and you're timing me with your phone no seriously my thumbs

are sore my thumbs are sore I think I have like chunkier thumbs because all I do is thumb people words on this little box. And I just, it's crazy. I hate, oh wow, I really feel this. I really hate how I'm activated. I'm leaning in. I hate how phones have exploded time into a constant 24-7 on crack. And if you don't answer someone in a fucking day, you get a follow-up email. And I'm like, don't fucking follow up with me.

I have other things to do right now, which is literally why I cannot respond to your email. Like, that shit stresses me out. And I just feel like the phones have created this culture of immediacy. This culture of immediacy. And I want everybody to slow down. I want there to be time for us to pause and stop and rest fuck that shit i'm not gonna get endorsed by apple now forever i'll tell you that much but um yeah i'd do it you know what though here's what i'll say and i know you feel this way too when you get a text

from someone and you don't necessarily have an answer right away it feels like you have homework but i also you know i'm also trying to be more gentle with myself and know that people love me i love them and that it's okay like the ripple of time is okay but jesus this little thing someone was in yoga today and started writing emails on her apple watch in yoga and the teacher called her out and i was like yeah that's not why you're coming here steph i think you you are always going to be very present very aware of your environment that this will never supersede that i think you are built in a way that i we are so jealous of which is that like you don't need this even though it seems like it's overtaking your life,

you know exactly how to step away from it. In a way, we never could. Y'all are my phone heroes in so many ways because I admire people who are able to function in society. Oh my god, wait. Speaking of the phone, I actually, this is a twist

because Bowen said he forgot his, but I actually have what I wanted to do, which is very topical and now i just remembered it and i want to do it okay oh my god this is this is connected to phones this is matt rogers's second i don't think sony's time starts now i don't think so honey twitter good bye bitch i have been wanting you to go down for fucking years you have killed and destroyed the soul of this world and if it took elon musk buying you and us having like a week couple weeks of like hell for you to finally go down in the death throws the death rattle of that is 2022 goodbye i don't think there is a soul that is funny on

anymore if you still use twitter for your little humor platform oh challenge yourself oh my god i can't believe it i am so happy this is going down in flames because guess what if it continued you know elon will just let trump back off the fuck on remember a couple weeks ago when he was like yeah vote for the republicans in the midterms bye bitch i am so happy that all this is leaking about you not knowing anything about how to run a company you being like tweeting out to your employees hey does anyone know how to run a company. You being like tweeting out to your employees, hey, does anyone know how to write code? Thanks, Elon. Bitch, you are so stupid.

Five seconds. Shoot him up into space where he belongs. Thanks for the Tesla, I guess. But Twitter, I don't think so, honey. Goodbye, good riddance. Instagram is next. That's one minute. You think Instagram is next?

I want it to be next. I like Instagram still. Tech is not in a good place right now, and I think that's okay. Give me a rock and a hammer and a nail and I'm going to hammer my words into the rock. Commandment style.

I don't think technology needs to this kind of technology does not need to advance anymore. It can't. You know, I don't know. It's only negative. It's interesting right now

because Meta had to lay off a bunch of people. Crypto's collapsing after this FTX stuff. Or it's not collapsing, but it's just like the regulators are having to step in. Anyway, I don't know as much as I think I do on this I won't even bore you guys but do you have an instinct about where the world goes

from here Bowen? I don't I really don't but I hope more people are like Stephanie Shu homesteading homesteading oh my god have you gone back to Colorado since all this? that's a

that's a whole other conversation okay i'm so sorry we need to catch up yeah we need to catch up are y'all gonna be in new york i'm in new york well here yeah are you coming are you living in new york no you're just in the hotel i don't know i'm here for the rest of the month but i hope we see you at the Gothams. Yes. I hope you get to come. I hope so too. Let's have a proper catch up at the award show.

How about this? Even if you don't get to go officially, will you come as my date? Because I get a date. You do? Yes. Are you asking me out? I would love to have you.

Positive. If you're going to be in New York for the Gothams and you're not going at the Everywhere All At Once table, I want you to be my date. Isn't that... Okay, great. If I go to New York. If I'm not in Australia. Wait, you just asked me on a date.

Oh my God, look at me. I'm being so hot and cold. Do you remember when we went on a date to Anastasia the Musical? Yeah. At the Pentages? Yeah. Only it's funny.

I would love to see y'all in New York because I feel like I can drop in deeper. Let's do it. Instead of the frenetic LA energy, what we need to do is the three of us need to go to Cozy Soup and Burger. Oh my God. Did it close?

No. No, but you know what's not there anymore? It's the cottage. I hate that the cottage is not there. And then also- You loved the cottage. I hate that the cottage is not there and then also you loved the cottage i loved it i had remember when i had my it was a chinese restaurant i think i had my 21st birthday at the cottage it was a chinese restaurant with unlimited wine bottomless wine unlimited wine and they didn't card and they never carded that's why i had my 20th birthday there

because they didn't card and i remember it was like truly 20 of us it was all the comedy kids all drinking red wine and like really getting wasted on that shitty, shitty wine at the cottage. And the food, and I will say the food was not that good. No, but it was cheap. It was cheap.

It was an Irving place. But it was also white tablecloth. It was cheap, but white tablecloth. Yes. White tablecloth box wine. We thought it was fancy at the time we really did we did we were so fancy drinking red out for a birthday dinner it was the cottage it was called the cottage yeah a chinese restaurant called the cottage i love it all right well we're gonna

do cozy scoop and burger in new york we need it to happen let us know when you come here we love you so much and i love you to anyone that's in the fucking screen actors guild a nominating committee i know that she doesn't care about this but she deserves it she could choice and if you are you know a critics giving the thinking about

fy fucking see stephanie shoe i mean like this performance is so brilliant it's so moving it's everything that you deserve and more and i'm we're so proud of you and we love you so much and the fact that like we got to have this like hour and a half here to like you know i'll chat and talk and share it with people that's you know it's just a testament to a beautiful friendship that we all have i love you very much i love you guys so much thank you so much for having me this has been truly a dream come true

it's been a bucket list item to be on less culture east so um i'm proud of y'all and just happy that we're bucket kick the bucket What do you think, Bo? Well, I think we end every episode with a song Here we go I see you drive around town With the girl I love And I'm like, forget you Oh, forget you, you're doing the edited version.

I see the chain in my pocket. Wasn't enough. Who wasn't enough? I know why I thought I was so cool. I used to go, wasn't enough. Never, never, never. Okay, but now do it like a turkey

putting, about to be killed for a feast for the first time. Okay, okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I hope Liz isn't listening. Bye.

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you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question what kind of dudes are these dudes we're gonna find out jules new episodes drop every thursday during the nfl season listen to dudes on dudes on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on thanksgiving day 1999 five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba?

Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into

Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.