Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "For Your Consideration" (w/ Megan Amram)

Episode Date: June 12, 2018

Presenting the preeminent mind of our time, future Emmy award winning Actress for Best Actress in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series, a talent that raises the voices of those around her: for your con...sideration, the iconic, Megan Amram! And Culturistas, this conversation rollicks! They talk “An Emmy For Megan,” Megan’s six episode scripted web-series (watch it here: http://anemmyformegan.com/) which is already changing the cultural landscape. Plus, “A Star Is Born” trailer, how to listen to music while walking, Escape Rooms (what is your role?), Ocean’s 8, Bryce Dallas Howard’s heels in Jurassic World, Stephen Sondheim, ALL of the Defying Gravity’s, and more!---LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:twitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:13 Forever! Dog! Look, Matt. There. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture?
Starting point is 00:02:23 Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And there cannot stop watching the Star is Born trailer. Oh, we?
Starting point is 00:02:34 You're talking about us? Yes. Yes. We've, um, first thing Matt did this morning was pull up. I woke up out of my sleep and I look over across the room and Matt's watching the Star is Born trailer. Okay. There's so the Star is Born trailer. Okay, there's so much to say about it and the thing is like,
Starting point is 00:02:48 it's my most anticipated movie of my life and this is now replacing Dreamgirls 2007 as the movie that I'm most excited about in my life. Interesting. And it's been now over a decade because it has to be a musical with a pop star and now that they're giving me that, I feel very excited.
Starting point is 00:03:06 And this trailer looks beautiful. And guess what? Here's a little piece of culture. It's the same DP as did Black Swan. The same DP as did Black Swan. Oh, that did Black Swan. No, I know. But is that, how did you find this out?
Starting point is 00:03:23 Reading a lot of articles. Okay. So you've done the research. I out? Reading a lot of articles. Okay, so you've done the research. I've been reading a lot. That's amazing. We should say we're in Los Angeles. We're back in LA for a little bit. We have some great episodes lined up. We're far from the shallow now. We're far from the shallow
Starting point is 00:03:38 now, as they say in the Star is Born trailer. We're far from the shallow now. that was like a beautiful mix of Bradley Cooper and Lady Gaga's voices that we just
Starting point is 00:03:49 the timbres mixed we gave Bradley Cooper tone yes and Lady Gaga operatic vibrato energy
Starting point is 00:03:57 yes now our guest today is also a singer also a vocalist vocalista okay the credits
Starting point is 00:04:05 They come rolling down. They come rolling down as we say. First of all, she has a show with the Skivvies on June 24th. Please check that out. You know, she just finished up a concert at 54 Below when she was in New York, but she performed with the Skivvies June 24th. Snap up those tics. Also, she's just
Starting point is 00:04:21 a preeminent mind, I would say. I got to, we'll talk about this. Preeminent mind. Science for her when it came out, like I was, but I was, I just like withdrew my application from med school and I was like, what the fuck am I doing? But then like I read Science for Her and I was like, this is the funniest thing. I still think it's one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life.
Starting point is 00:04:42 We were just screaming in the car. And also I was happy because listen, this is not an I don't think so funny, it's one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. We were just screaming in the car, and also I was happy because, listen, this is not an I don't think so funny, it's just an observation. The Uber drivers in LA, very chatty. Very chatty, and all I wanted to do was share excerpts of science for her with Matt. And we cut the driver out of our conversation very quickly.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Because I was like, no, sorry, this is our moment. So anyway. And then we laughed out loud and said select lines from the passage that he can't possibly have understood. Of course. She's a writer-producer on so many shows. The Good Place, The Simpsons, Silicon Valley, Kroll Show, previously Parks and Rec. I mean, there are those.
Starting point is 00:05:18 But we're going to talk today about her biggest credit to date. Ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration. The actress, writer, producer, director of An Emmy for Megan. Nominated for your consideration for Outstanding Actress in a Short-Form Comedy or Drama Series and Outstanding Short-Form Comedy or Drama Series.
Starting point is 00:05:37 So much to talk about. It's our honor to have Megan Amram. Hi, Megan. So happy to be here. I was just clenching my fists waiting to get in on the Stars Born trailer. Okay, give thoughts. Well, first of all, I've never heard a country singer with Lady Gaga's placement. Nope.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Her vocal placement. It's so rich. That vibrato is just huge. Drive a truck through it. We're going to get theater country. And I love it. I love that it's in a world. It's like a science fiction movie in a world where country and musical theater has meshed.
Starting point is 00:06:14 It's like a dystopian future. Honestly? See, it throws me off a little bit. That they chose country music as the scene? No, no, no. I love that it's country music. It throws me off that Gaga chose to keep the Gaga.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah, she's not doing country at all. Absolutely love it. I also love that she in the trailer says you know, people love my music but they don't love the way I look. And she's like a beautiful woman. She's stunning. And then, this is my I was watching it with my friends and my
Starting point is 00:06:43 theory is you never see her legs in the trailer. What? I was like, what if a twist in the movie is that she's actually only a torso? And that's what she's saying. It's like my face is very beautiful. And I'm not saying that paraplegics, well, no, I'm saying she's literally just a torso. Which is very beautiful. It's a type of person.
Starting point is 00:07:03 But I think that might be the struggle. But they're burying the lead there by not showing that she's just a torso. Which is very beautiful. It's a type of person. Yeah, it's beautiful. But I think that might be the struggle. But they're burying the lead there by not showing that she's just a torso. Wow, that would be an amazing twist. And that would be even more, they're saying Oscar bait. Oh, yeah. And awards bait big time.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yes. And I love it. Lady Gaga just on her arms the whole time. I don't know, we'll see. Wait, there are so many, because I've done the thing now where I've watched it so many
Starting point is 00:07:26 times where I've you know how and every the best part of the trailer is like the super cut towards the end where this she's screaming her song and then literally there's
Starting point is 00:07:38 like many cuts of different things of her acting so hard. Acting over here. Acting over there. Yeah. F filling up the frame and there's a scene that i paused where she's in the bathroom there's a scene where she's run out of a bathroom stall she's in like a business suit with her hair up in like a tasteful
Starting point is 00:07:55 situation and she's bent over screaming and i paused it and i was like what is that although we do we do see the legs in that shot, I believe. We see her legs. Oh my God. Megan, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I really didn't watch carefully enough, obviously. No, no, no. I was focused on her face and her vibrato.
Starting point is 00:08:12 She could still be a paraplegic, and I'll tell you why. Because oftentimes, Hollywood, they can be very smart. And what they'll do is they film extra scenes just for the trailer to throw off fans. You guys have been in LA for two days and you already get how Hollywood works and I'm so impressed speaking of Hollywood let's just start off the conversation yeah I love that
Starting point is 00:08:33 by talking about an Emmy for Megan the buzz has been a din of buzz a deafening din it's hard to concentrate there's so much buzz it's like a white noise that just distracts everyone. Yes,
Starting point is 00:08:47 and white noise puts you to sleep. Absolutely. But none of us are sleeping. No, it's like loud. It's too loud. It's really loud.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Do you find that maybe like the buzz, well, this is actually a really interesting conversation to have because, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:59 the subject matter is trying to win an Emmy, but now we got to that interesting thing of when the buzz sometimes takes away from the work. But this, it kind of feeds itself. And that's genius. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I say this in the web series, but I really did make this to win the award. I was watching the Emmys last year. There's a bunch of new awards for web series content. Yes, which is amazing, beautiful. Yeah. And I thought, you know, I, look, I'm not Lady Gaga yet. No. I can't carry a full, very, very strenuously acted movie yet.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Yeah. Looks like she won't hurt herself. But I can, yeah, a lot of pulled muscles on that set. Pained, yes. But I feel like my skills are good for like six minutes at a time. Like I'm really charismatic for like six minutes. So this podcast is going to be great for like the first chunk
Starting point is 00:09:51 and then just horrible. So I think of myself as a web series or tour. But yeah, the Emmy voting opens Monday, June 11th. Okay, so this will come out the next day. This is coming out on Tuesday, June 12th opens Monday, June 11th. Okay, so this will come out the next day.
Starting point is 00:10:06 This is coming out on Tuesday, June 12th. Oh, this is perfectly timed. This episode is going to be called For Your Consideration. Oh, perfect. Yeah, good. Yeah, so I spent one day filming the series, and I've spent weeks now publicizing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I bought a billboard in Hollywood. Is that real? It's real. Oh, it's real. Go see it. It's at billboard in Hollywood. Is that real? It's real. It's real. Go see it. It's at Hollywood Boulevard in Wilton Place. Here's the thing
Starting point is 00:10:30 for anyone listening out there. It's really easy to buy a billboard that says anything. Oh my God. It is prohibitively expensive. Cost prohibitive. I spent more money
Starting point is 00:10:39 on the billboard than I did on the series. That's the way it works. Yeah. That's the way Hollywood works. And you the way hollywood works and you have to get out there and promote yourself like remember when melissa leo bought her own for your consideration yes i remember that and guess what she won the academy award now i have to ask are is there something that we as the viewer do not know that is more esoteric in the emmy
Starting point is 00:11:01 sort of um in the requirements is it really just it has to have six episodes? It has to be on YouTube. It has to be uploaded before April, whatever it was. Yeah, 27th. 27th. And then, I'm sorry. A date that shall live in infamy. That will live in infamy, as FDR said.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And what was the third requirement? These are truly the only requirements. Six episodes. There's no minimum length right and they have to be under 15 minutes each which you know no problem sir yeah no problem and they have to be uploaded at the right time they also um have to have scripts which is why i heavily scripted my series right if anyone i i ideally wanted to send out the scripts of my series. Right, right, right. If anyone, I ideally wanted to send out the scripts of my series to the entire Emmy voting block. It's more expensive
Starting point is 00:11:48 than you'd think. To send out the scripts? I'm willing to, I just wish there was an email list you could just spam. Yeah. You would think that
Starting point is 00:11:57 it's as easy as this, but it's not. No, it's not. And I think that if I win an Emmy, I'll have the clout to make some major changes in the Academy. Right, right right right because
Starting point is 00:12:06 where there needs to be changed there needs to be changed now I need to ask you what do you visualize as the roadblocks ahead of you yeah who is competing with you in the category bring down my spirit I'm sorry no no no no I think it's like good to
Starting point is 00:12:22 be realistic I think it's harder to get nominated. I think once you get nominated, you'll win. This is exactly what I'm thinking. You're being realistic. I don't know. Here's the thing. I don't know who else is competing in this category.
Starting point is 00:12:34 And come Monday, and if you guys are listening to this on Tuesday, race to your computers. Get in the Academy quickly. I am so curious to see if other people had the same idea as me, like that they'd be a good web series based actor or actress. But I think there's going to be a lot of celebrities competing in this category. And, you know, my name might not have the recognition that, say, a Natalie Portman. I was going to say Penelope Cruz. I was going to say Penelope Cruz.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I was going to say Penelope Cruz. I love her. Beautiful, beautiful woman. Beautiful girl. So I might not be, you know, a Penelope Cruz, but I think I have a lot of spirit. Yeah. But should I get nominated? I have set aside a slush fund to really, really hit the publicity home.
Starting point is 00:13:23 And I'm thinking I never delved into the New York market, which is so rude of me. Yeah, it's really. I was walking through Times Square recently, and I'm like, how do I get one of those big electronic billboards, Times Square? I could see it, just me waving at the tourists from far and wide. So I'll be looking into that. Please. Now, it will be historic
Starting point is 00:13:45 if you are not only nominated but if you do win for you to win as a beautiful Korean American woman yes thank you so much
Starting point is 00:13:53 for bringing this up we can confirm that we are talking to a beautiful Korean American woman and that's because that's how you've chosen to identify
Starting point is 00:14:01 for purposes of your life going forward or just you know are we seeing just if you haven't are we seeing the project? Just if you haven't seen the series, which seems insane, but I did a 23andMe recently and I found out I'm about 98% Ashkenazi Jewish. But I found out I was 0.1% Korean. Not negligible.
Starting point is 00:14:22 They included it. They included it. Jackpot. And it's so easy to not include it, but they did. They did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They wanted you to know. So many things made sense.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah. And, you know, I looked at myself in the mirror before that, and I always was like, what is that? Yeah, yeah. What is that about me? Yeah. What's that? There's a beautiful Korean thing about me. There's something fun.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. There's something fun in the mirror. Yeah. There's something spicy. There's something spicy. There's something fun in the mirror. There's something spicy. There's something, yeah, a little paprika thrown in there. And I got my genetic results back and it all fell into place. Now here's something. I am a part of the Emmy Voting Academy.
Starting point is 00:14:59 And I got an email recently that they were doing a panel with Asian American women who were in the academy. And I realized they hadn't asked me. And it was a really horrible way to find out that I wasn't on the panel was by getting an invitation. It almost felt like they were rubbing it in that they were like, we're inviting you, but you're not on the panel. It's so emblematic, I think, of the industry and all the quote unquote steps forward that we're taking where it's like it's still so exclusive. Even the diversity panels. Erasure. There's so much erasure and they're leaving out so many people.
Starting point is 00:15:33 They're a racist. Exactly. Really? That's really what it is. How dare they? How dare they? But I almost showed up and just like went on the panel. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I thought, you know what? Let them have their time. Well, you know, that's. But it's not them. It's you are them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought, you know what? Let them have their time. Well, you know, that's- But it's not them. It's you are them. Wait, you're right. I need to change the way I think about this. You do.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, yeah. And also here's the thing. There's no such thing as bad publicity. And I think that if you had gone and made an issue of it, I think you might have been nominated for it. Well, I have some big things coming up. I really want to- In my web series, I also sing the national anthem,
Starting point is 00:16:08 which, I mean, is one of everyone's favorite songs. Yeah, I love that song. It's just like fun, carefree. And different every time. Different every time. You have no idea what's going to come out of your mouth. I really, for years I've wanted to sing the national anthem at a WNBA game because very seriously, I think it's super fucked up how much people make fun of the WNBA.
Starting point is 00:16:28 It is. I'm not a sports fan, but I just in theory love the WNBA. Well, it is a punchline. And why? No, it's crazy. They're amazing. But I really want to sing the national anthem at a WNBA game. We can probably make that happen. Yeah. I feel like Las Culturistas has a big pull at a WNBA game. We can probably make that happen.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Yeah, I feel like Las Culturistas has a big pull in the WNBA. We do. We'll just say out loud that, you know, we'll put it in the atmosphere. Yes. As they say. I just also have to shout out, quick side note, is that I went to New York last weekend, saw what I'd estimate to be every gay person in New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 They'll hang out around the Times Square area. They are all huge fans of this podcast. That's crazy to me. They certainly don't approach. They don't approach us. They don't approach us. I'm going to tell them not to be shy, skittish little mares anymore.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Do you know what happens? Stop being a sly, shy, skittish little mare. Sometimes I will receive a instagram direct message and it will say bitch and they just call me a bitch what are you listening to as you stomp through time square because i will be listening to music yeah and i feel music and something about me that is very different and unique um is that i feel music all throughout my body oh yeah especially never met someone when it's a very good song you can really tell like i don't know i'm just i don't know if it means that i'm a
Starting point is 00:17:54 dancer maybe i should go on dancing with the stars i feel like you should be in a star is born i feel like that's what that means well here's the deal the deal. Or Black Swan. Or Black Swan. I would love to do actually both. Attack it. Attack it. We played Black Swan. We did Black Swan on stage as a musical with the music of Chicago. Yes. Oh? And who do you think was Natalie and who was Mila?
Starting point is 00:18:16 I think Bowen was Natalie. Yes. You're correct. I have more Mila energy. Obviously. Because Mila, you know. Sexually devious. She feels the music in her body and like, you know, she's very free and loose.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Right. Hair down. Hair down. I do all my ballets with my hair down. Yeah. Yes. Gets right in your face. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And also, then I have to respond to these people who are like, what are you doing? And I'm like, where are you? And then I don't get an answer to that. So now there's just these gays watching me as I walk on the street. Do you watch Game of Thrones? I'm very scared of Game of Thrones because of the violence. There's a lot of violence, but there's like a sparrow system where it's basically like a unit character who has all these people watching other people. And I imagine that there's some sort of sparrow system in Times Square of gay people waiting for you to jazz down the street.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So Stomp, are you really hitting the steps heavy? Well, what I do is, because I'm a very big fan of RuPaul's Drag Race, I like to lip sync. But I don't want to do it outwardly. I don't want to be a crazy person lip syncing the words on the street. But I will, in my brain, picture myself performing the song. And so sometimes that just gets away from me. And I'll be emotionally. That's, I guess, really what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I'm emotionally embodying it physically. Okay. I have a very heavy step. I've been told before that I need to sit down softer. I didn't very heavy step. I've been told before that I need to sit down softer. I didn't break a chair. This was, I have a history of older women telling me how to live my life. And I just am very sweet and take it very sincerely. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:57 But I was at like a movie screening outside and there were all these like deck chairs. And I sat, I sit down with my full force of my body. I let gravity really do most of the work and the chair like folded up underneath me and a woman behind me was like maybe if you didn't sit like that it wouldn't happen oh my god what at what age do you become this expert in chairs grizzled white woman who tells you how to sit who has no concept of boundaries and tells a stranger how to place their gravity on something.
Starting point is 00:20:28 I don't like her at all. Just because I'm Korean, you can't do that. She saw you and she said, I'm going to walk, let me walk all over this Korean woman. You're listening. I'm sorry, beautiful Korean woman. Beautiful Korean. We're quoting you. We're quoting you from the series. I bent
Starting point is 00:20:43 a stool leg in San Francisco out of bar in Chinatown, and I have never been more humiliated in my own, in a place where I meant to feel safe. Wait, what was the stool made out of? It was like a steel stool. Everyone, okay, the people I was with maintained that it was already warped,
Starting point is 00:21:03 and it was already that way, but for some reason it had been propped up to look like it was just structurally sound but as soon as I placed my weight on it I ate shit and I just fell to the ground. It feels like their fault. It feels like the restaurant's fault. Have you sued them? Well I was with Blair
Starting point is 00:21:20 and Blair is a great lawyer now in San Francisco and she was like we could literally sue and I was like it's fine. a great lawyer now in San Francisco. And she was like, we could literally sue. And I was like, it's fine. Why are you attacking it like that? Like why are you being nice? Why not sue? It was like a mom and pop Chinese bar.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And like I did not want to make waves. Do you think that it's a trap that they put there to make people think they should lose weight? Oh my God. I feel like maybe it's like an elaborate system. Everyone falls down on the stool. That is so Chinese. That would be very California of them too. Oh my God. I feel like maybe it's like an elaborate system. Everyone falls down on the stool. That is so Chinese. That'd be very California
Starting point is 00:21:48 of them too. It would be. It would be. I almost sued an escape room. Wait. How? That's also the whitest
Starting point is 00:21:56 thing I've ever said. Okay. Okay. That's not part of it. What happened? I love escape rooms. Love that. Which is like
Starting point is 00:22:03 so stupid. People shit on escape rooms all the time now. They're like, oh, it's white people paying for struggle. And I'm like, no, I love escape rooms. It's also not paying for struggle. It's paying for like a puzzle that you've immersed yourself in. Get over yourself. Yeah, that's an insane criticism of escape rooms.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's very wholesome. And I love puzzles of all types. But I was in an escape room in Orlando Florida with my brother and his wife and they were showing us at the end what we did wrong sorry look I'm flawed just like any other beautiful Korean woman and a treasure chest that this man had propped up fell on my finger and my finger started gushing blood. Oh my God. Which you can like,
Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm going to show, not the podcast listeners, but you can kind of see the scar on my finger. On her beautiful Korean finger. Yeah. And I also, I was just like, escape rooms are dirty
Starting point is 00:22:56 because they're set up in like warehouses. And they're always, a million people are touching them all the time. But the room I was doing was like horror themed. So I hope there's like my dried blood somewhere in the room anyway it was fine my brother's a doctor and he wanted to give me stitches but he's not a hand doctor and also he was my childhood bully so i was like no yeah there's so many layers i don't trust you it was really layered but i have a question for you so what is your role in the escape room? Because I feel that when you go into a –
Starting point is 00:23:25 This is such a good idea. I feel like when you all go in there together, like my thing that I do because I'm not necessarily like the smartest sleuth, but I am really good – The best lip syncer. Yeah. The best lip syncer. The best don't burn. I'm performing in the corner. No, but on our most recent trip to an escape room, they came over the loudspeaker and they said, you can also, to help, look for hidden...
Starting point is 00:23:53 It was Easter eggs. We were here doing Easter, and then part of the theme was they hid little Easter eggs around the room. And so I was like, good, I'll look for the things hidden around the room. I'm not going to find out the puzzle. I also just like, I want to'll look for the things hidden around the room. I'm not going to find out the puzzle. I also just like I want to set the scene of like me doing an escape room with like six huge gay guys.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And it was fortune teller themed and there were so many scarves in it. And I feel like half of us just spent the time admiring putting scarves on. No, I am like very much like a home. I love homework. Like I love like math and figuring out more cerebral puzzles. I don't have a great spatial reasoning. I never know which side of my body is like right or left. Wow. So I'm not going to be the one who's like doing a gadget.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Yeah. I have a question. Yeah. Because you are, you are like low key low key high key like a gamer I would say the reason I love escape rooms is because I equate them to like a real life like Zelda dungeon
Starting point is 00:24:53 oh my god the first time I did an escape this is like not funny because I'm getting too sincere about this the first time I did one was basically Zelda themed it was the most euphoric experience of my life. I was like, leave this disgusting world behind and put me in like a Zelda room for an hour. Yes, please.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Yes, like that is like, that is all I want out of an experience. I really want to create Escape. I'm like too lazy to do it. But I have a bunch of ideas for themes. Theme one is like general Hollywood meeting, which just to set the scene if you've never been on one it's like you get to a you get to a lobby at some building and usually a woman
Starting point is 00:25:32 is there to be like can i get you anything water diet coke and then you just like sit on a chair and then you go into a meeting and talk about yourself and then nothing happens yeah so i want it to be like you're in the lobby and all you have at your disposal is water and a Diet Coke. And you have to like figure it out from there. And then also haunted weed dispensary. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. Like you're blowing – you have to blow weed smoke to see like a laser light on the wall.
Starting point is 00:25:59 There's like so many good options. I think this is a thing that could really happen if you win the Emmy and your profile gets raised in Hollywood. Wait, should I make an Emmy for Megan Escape Room? Yes. Oh my God. That's really good. But also just to put one more thing about the web series. I'm doing this.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We'll come out after the show. But I'm doing a show tomorrow, Sunday at UCB. That's a screening and like a Q&A panel. I love that. Including my friend Andrew Law who was cut out of the series. Andrew was in it? Oh, no. Andrew is so funny.
Starting point is 00:26:30 We did about a two hour long take of a scene that got entirely cut out. Why was it cut? Here's the thing. And my series is not like, there's not a high bar for what got in it. Oh, my God. It was a lot. Andrew is a very, very good friend of mine. So I was like like we're just gonna
Starting point is 00:26:45 riff like we'll be in my bed together wait what do you mean it was scripted it was yes yeah we'll riff around the script oh my god thank you so much for reminding me because i've seen the script and it's definitely this script i'm really really proud of the script but we mostly i was like andrew how was your day and he's like not good and I was like why and he's like my cum's black and I was like oh that sucks why and he was like
Starting point is 00:27:09 from eating so much dirt and then we just for like what felt like two hours talked about his black cum black cum
Starting point is 00:27:17 and it was it just it didn't tonally fit with what I was doing I get it because it's not about you winning an Emmy because honestly
Starting point is 00:27:24 you can't just that was actually really selfish of him honestly he's a very selfish performer I have to really come out and say that was really selfish of him to not only like disregard your script with this improv which I'm sorry is like not an art form no
Starting point is 00:27:37 yeah and how dare he like not talk about like your Emmy because that's what the show is about he was in a different series I feel like he just was you know how you see someone in a movie or whatever
Starting point is 00:27:49 you're just like they don't know what movie they're in Andrew does not know what series he's in right now but at the show along with Andrew it will be moderated
Starting point is 00:27:58 by Jane Lynch who won last year is Jane Lynch really moderating it yes I swear to God Jane Lynch is moderating it she is such a swear to God, Jane Lynch is moderating it.
Starting point is 00:28:05 She is such a sweetheart. She's very funny. I have not asked her this. I do kind of want her to bring her Emmy from last year. So I can hold the real one that I want. I think she has a couple, right? She has a couple. Oh, she must.
Starting point is 00:28:18 But specifically, she won for the Outstanding Actress in a Short Form Comedy or Drama. Can I ask one more question about like exactly what qualifies because I might have a series coming out and I just want to make sure it qualifies. We've gone over the rules already. No, but I need to ask another question about the rules because- No, I'm happy to help someone
Starting point is 00:28:33 who wants to follow my footsteps. Because I think, I said this to Bowen before we came here and he described me as a unique bitch in like a passive aggressive tone and we haven't talked about it, but I'm really upset. I identify with you
Starting point is 00:28:44 because I very badly want to win a major award. Yeah. Yeah, and that's when I called him a unique bitch. And I said, talked about it, but I'm really upset. I identify with you because I very badly want to win a major award. Yeah. And that's when I called him a unique bitch. And I said, wow, yeah, what a unique bitch. And I was like, I smiled through it, but I was really upset. I'm glad that we're airing it now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll have a more in-depth discussion about it later,
Starting point is 00:28:57 but I feel that it was very Hollywood of him to be very passive aggressive in New York. Is Bowen different in LA than New York? Yeah, 100%. I can tell. He scowled at a man who was making my coffee today. Because he took
Starting point is 00:29:10 fucking forever. I know, but it's LA, babe. You have to do this. He made a He's on legal weed right now. No. He's chill.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You need to relax. He made a latte cocktail with like orange like an orange It was crazy. The cocktail the coffee cocktail I was like, like an orange rind garnish. I was like, this is outrageous. Was it good?
Starting point is 00:29:29 Honestly, it was for someone else. It was for someone else. But I literally, I was being very LA and like, I was like, I even complimented. I was like, that looks amazing. And then, but Bowen, I could see, he's kind of like very New York, right? In that moment.
Starting point is 00:29:43 But like- Okay, so do do I am I different himself with Metro cards yeah it's like a full deck of them I guess no you've really brought your New York your evil New York energy to LA to be rude to this coffee maker okay so can I tell you
Starting point is 00:29:58 something yeah first let me ask my question and then I want to ask another question and there will probably be more questions after that so first of all I am thinking about making a web series that will probably be more questions after that. So first of all, I am thinking about making a web series that's five episodes. But does that mean I won't qualify? Yes, you have to have six.
Starting point is 00:30:11 That is insane. I'm sorry, hun. So wait. You have to add another. I know it's hard. It wasn't something that was easy to script. Right, no, I know. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:30:20 So it has to be six episodes, but they don't have a minimum time limit. Correct. So essentially you could make less content and qualify. Correct. All right. I don't understand. You can just do a clip show.
Starting point is 00:30:32 I don't know what your series is, but just make the fifth episode a clip show. Okay. Okay. Yeah, that's a good idea. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh.
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Starting point is 00:32:15 a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his father in Cuba. Mr. González wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son
Starting point is 00:32:46 with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzá Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, it's Matt Rogers. Back when I was a server, I was one bad day away from a huge personal crisis. Thankfully, Giving Kitchen is here to serve those that serve us. Giving Kitchen is a nonprofit helping any food service worker who gets hurt, gets sick, loses a family member or their housing. That's giving relief. So when you or someone you know is in crisis, tell them
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Starting point is 00:34:01 it's not going to be an award contender. You can put it out there, but you should do like a two-part cliffhanger. Again, I don't know what your series is, but I have ideas for breaking it up. Okay. Now, and you said you had a follow-up question? I forgot it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Now, Megan, when you see – but you didn't foresee this Andrew episode while you were breaking this season. I thought that it was going to just be a more natural fit. Okay. And I didn't know how I was going to edit it necessarily. And I tried to get the Andrew scene in there, but it truly was just like nothing. Well, there's no dramatic tension there because really all it is is a dietary change for him. He'd have to stop eating dirt. We were trying to be really grounded.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Remember our UCB training of yes and. React like a person. Rule of culture number 14. Remember your UCB training. But it just didn't work. It just didn't work. And I'm glad to have a public opportunity to hash it out with him. This is new.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Have you talked about this before? This is the first place you've talked about this. I had to break it to him privately that he was not in the series before it premiered because I didn't want him to like email his family
Starting point is 00:35:10 or anything and be like, look, I'm in this award winning web series and then watch with them and have to see the horror on their faces
Starting point is 00:35:20 when they realize he wasn't in it. That would be so embarrassing. But in that scenario that you just outlined for him to email his family and be like, look at this award-winning web series, he wouldn't have been,
Starting point is 00:35:29 he would have found out after the fact. The timeline's really confusing there. I have always been calling it an award-winning web series from day one, just because I think you can safely assume at some point, but... And you put it out there in the world. I remember my question. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Can I give a spoiler oh of course okay so in the last episode our friend um your foe darcy carden comes in and it's very much um the episode really takes a turn yes when darcy kills megan yes that was the only part that was not scripted wow that's crazy yeah what's crazy is i thought we were just gonna do like it's in my kitchen i thought it was gonna be like a nancy myers type episode you had props wonderful women yeah yeah cooking whatever wonderful women cooking and uh yeah darcy went psycho i mean i hate to call a woman crazy she went crazy yeah she was a crazy woman and she poisoned me and white we should say white she's white yes woman she's a crazy woman and she poisoned me and killed me we should say white she's white
Starting point is 00:36:25 yes I mean I barely met someone whiter she's like six feet tall so it's like more white skin than most women yes but she
Starting point is 00:36:33 killed me and oh my god that bitch I also like haven't seen Darcy since she killed me and she's gonna be
Starting point is 00:36:40 in the show tomorrow and I just like I'm really kind of nervous but also excited to get in a fight with her on the stage right right right but i i have a note for you i guess okay um so whenever i enter a room the first thing i think and this is because of survival instinct which i don't know if you know about the climate right now but i think we need to start kicking in our
Starting point is 00:36:58 survival instincts oh yeah whenever i enter a room i, okay, in a moment of madness, how would I kill everyone here? So I think you should have thought about that. That's amazing. Yeah. You shouldn't have turned your back to Darcy, I don't think. Even you feel like it's safe to do so when you're in a web series that's scripted that you're doing the script for. Yeah, and so many people watching you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 You just can't ever let your guard down even if you're in a web series. And you were literally turning your back because you were putting together a set deck or you were gathering props.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, I was putting together a set deck. And I think from what I can tell you were just taking chopsticks. Well, yeah. There's, I was, putting together a set deck is like a very complicated thing.
Starting point is 00:37:45 It's like an LA thing so you guys might not we don't understand know about it but it stands for set decoration yeah right right putting together
Starting point is 00:37:52 set decoration okay now I understand a little bit more so yeah the chopsticks were not exactly how I wanted them so I was moving
Starting point is 00:37:58 well yeah you need them to be and so she took that opportunity to pour I guess cyanide in your drink yeah I don't know what it was but it did not taste good and it killed you and it killed me You need them to be. And so she took that opportunity to pour, I guess, cyanide in your drink. Yeah. I don't know what it was, but it did not taste good.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And it killed you. And it killed me. Oh, my God. Can I also say, like, so I just think for you, like, a good note would be, like, find out ways that you could kill people before they kill you. That's, oh, my God. Well, season two. Here's the thing. I hate to.
Starting point is 00:38:20 I'm sorry. Are we in season two? Did you just say season two? I think I'm ready to officially announce season two. I feel like season two ideally would come out before the Emmy voting is done. But no matter what happens, so okay, Emmy voting is June 11th at 9 a.m.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Pacific Daylight's time or whatever, standard time. Pacific Daylight time. Yeah, it's 9 a.m. through I think June 24th and then July 14th-h is when emmy nominations are announced and i am ready for whatever happens that day yeah i think that if i get nominated i'm a shoo-in to win and if i'm not nominated then season two is going to be coming back bigger and better than ever i wanted to have the budget of a real television show. And I have a lot of stunts that I want to do.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I think that there's going to be some pyrotechnics. I want to use like the letterbox format, like Master of None does. And I have a lot of stylistic ideas for season two. Can I ask you a question? Of course. So it's just outstanding actress in a short form. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:25 So this means lead actress and supporting actress is all, and all acting is combined into this one category. Yes, but here's the other thing, and you might want to look into this for your series. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have to be in more than 50% of the episodes to count as outstanding actress. Got it, got it.
Starting point is 00:39:41 So you were very careful to not allow any of the I poured over those words. actors to be in more than. Of course. Because, you know, Darcy is very good in that last episode. Not to pull focus from you because you were also amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Luckily for me and unluckily for you, she was not in enough episodes so she could not submit for this series. But, you know, if I win the Emmy, I feel like maybe
Starting point is 00:40:04 she should accept it. Oh my God. Or I win the Emmy I feel like maybe she should accept it or maybe I I think like awards are very complicated like maybe I shouldn't accept it at all you know that would be such that would be very good such a great turn you need to send someone important in your
Starting point is 00:40:20 place though because like you have to do like a Marlon Brando yeah I'm gonna send Marlon Brando as is dead Marlon Brando like he's on like a little bag of blood we'll hit him up well he's a fan of the pot he's a famous yeah he's actually is gay so you know he went to angels he's a beautiful gay ghost he's a beautiful gay ghost and beautiful now in the physical world a beautiful little gay bag of blood so we're gonna bring him in whatever form but you know what i think is really good of you, though? She might not be eligible for this,
Starting point is 00:40:47 but you are a good friend because you did raise her profile in a huge way for her own category. This is a real story, is that Darcy was at Upfronts for the show that we were, Darcy's on The Good Place, which I write for. I like The Best Place. Yeah, oh my God, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Wow, wow. Wow, I'm going to write that down. Such a good show. But she was at Upfronts, and someone came up to her and was like, oh, my God, Darcy, I love you in an Emmy for Megan. Oh, my God. And seemingly did not know that she was on a television show. And I was like, this is exactly what I want to hear. You raised her profile. Yeah, it was it was the best day of my life is hearing that story. Between you and Darcy, there is just one,
Starting point is 00:41:28 the delivery is so nuanced because you have a line that goes, and this is written in the script, you say, did you like the script I sent?
Starting point is 00:41:37 And then she says, yes. Not like a, yeah, I loved it, or like, yeah. Yes. We re-round it. We re-round it. We watched it again. We were like, we have to I loved it. Or like, yes. Yes. So mad at her. We re-round it.
Starting point is 00:41:45 We re-round it. We watched it again. We were like, we have to watch that back. So good. Darcy wrote that line. It's amazing. Oh my God. Can I also say, how mad would you be if you won an Emmy for writing an Emmy for a Meghann?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Well, I literally had a dream last week that the nominations came out. And I was nominated for Best Web Series which is functionally right again and not for Best Actress and I was like excited but like kind of upset. Yeah no I would be actually pretty furious. How would the inverse of that be if you were nominated for Actress
Starting point is 00:42:17 but not for Best Web Series? I think that would be fine because that is the one that I'm really going for. Interesting. Because I want to show I mean I want to show my chops. Yeah that's important. And I feel like that's the Emmy for your'm really going for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I want to show, I mean, I want to show my chops. Yeah, that's important. And I feel like that's the Emmy for your chops. If you literally win an Emmy Award for acting, huge. Like, think of the door.
Starting point is 00:42:34 You don't get bigger than that. Think of all the people who haven't won the Emmy Award for acting. I'm like. Sandra Oh. Yes. I'm going to be a higher profile actress than Sandra Oh. Matt, you know I love to talk about one of our sponsors. You love this thing.
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Starting point is 00:46:53 What does that entail? My own personal money buying one billboard. Thank you. That's one of the most cost prohibitive things of this whole promotion. Right. The campaigning process. If you want a Webby, you could We Got. We could We Got.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You could be the first We Got. I don't think Whoopi Goldberg has a Webby. No, she doesn't. She really doesn't. I don't see her working towards it either. So listen, I mean, if she doesn't want to work for it, that's part of the biz. That's part of the industry.
Starting point is 00:47:18 Absolutely. She really doesn't work hard. I already know what I would say if I won an award. What? Come on. You want to know my first line? I do. So I would be so surprised, even if I won an award. What? Come on. You want to know my first line? I do.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So I would be so surprised, even if all the pundits like Sasha Stone, Nathaniel Rogers, even if they all said like, it looks like it and it's Matt Rogers' to lose, I would be surprised even if I'm not. That's part of like my- What's the first line? I would go up to the,
Starting point is 00:47:37 I would get my Emmy from, let's say- Padma Lakshmi. I was going to say, I was going to say Retta. Retta. But Padma- These are both great options. I was gonna say Retta Retta but Padma these are both great options
Starting point is 00:47:46 yeah so I would get my award and I would turn to the mic and I would go for the next 45 seconds I apologize in advance
Starting point is 00:47:54 no that's so good I might steal that yeah I I really wanna win because I really wanna keep saying it's not
Starting point is 00:48:03 it was not about the award it was about the scripts it was about the award it was about the scripts it was about the art it was not about the award that is you know icing on the cake yeah my speech would be about how as a child I would grow up watching these shows
Starting point is 00:48:17 and just wanted to be a part of the community that's what my speech would be about I grew up listening to podcasts and just wanted desperately to be, it's like you listen to Rita Hayworth on a podcast. You listen to Helen Hayes on a podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, Rita Moreno.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, Rita Moreno. I think Rita Moreno just legit did WTF. She did? Yeah. Oh my God, I want to listen to that. I love thinking that Marc Maron and Rita Moreno were at like open mics together. And that's where it's very funny from what WTF used to be to be like, yeah, Rita and Mark just had like a really hard history in the New York comedy scene.
Starting point is 00:48:56 You know who was really, really good? And this will be a fucking fantastic segue. But you know who was really good on WTF was Anne Hathaway she was great she was great similarly similarly good who as
Starting point is 00:49:11 as we scream and shout she was so good in Ocean's 8 and you guys we've all seen Ocean's 8 and now we're gonna talk about it
Starting point is 00:49:18 we're all under the table right now just like flat on our backs we've slid we've slid off the chairs just like I slid off my chair and hit every bump on the way down. When the Star is Born trailer came on before Ocean's 8,
Starting point is 00:49:31 I was fully wet. And I, woo! Yeah, it was a slip and slide down to the screen. Ooh, baby, at the Arclight, honey. And then, okay, so we saw it at the Arclight. And then you can go outside and they have all the gowns on display from Ocean's 8. So if you're in LA. Wait, I went to the Arclight and then you can go outside and they have all the gowns on display from Ocean's 8. So if you're in LA.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Wait, I went to the Arclight and I did not, I feel like I was so blown away by this movie. I did not even register the gowns. I like don't know where to start with this movie.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Well, pick a place. It was, first of all, it just was like, I give it a true A++++ experience. I cannot believe it has gotten not that good reviews because I was like
Starting point is 00:50:06 these are all just like crusty old men who do not get what this is going for. The fact that it's set at the Met Gala is like the most
Starting point is 00:50:15 genius stroke of storytelling. We applauded when they showed the building. It basically was just a drag queen show. The fact that it was
Starting point is 00:50:22 like eight of the most famous actresses pretending to be in a movie, but they were just being like, look, it's me, Cate Blanchett. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And like, there's a scene where Cate Blanchett and Sandra Bullock find Helena Bonham Carter like, eating Nutella on the floor. She's like despondent.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And who was also fantastic. Amazing. Did an Irish accent just because. There was some great accent work in this movie and I was like oh you found your friend Helena Bottom Carter I could not be either but Anne Hathaway is a
Starting point is 00:50:54 dream come true she's so funny the plumpest lips this side of the Mississippi huge lips in this movie this is my favorite performance she's ever done it's it is like perfectly self-parody yes yeah but she commits there's a point where she just like makes herself cry looking in the mirror yeah yeah because she's not thin
Starting point is 00:51:18 enough you're using you're using all of your tools yeah truly it's for this movie there's also like no con not to give spoilers there's like no real. For this movie. There's also like no, not to give spoilers, there's like no real conflict in the movie. No. It's just like fun. Beautiful women
Starting point is 00:51:30 hanging out, having fun, and then also having more fun and then also having more friends. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like everything I want.
Starting point is 00:51:38 It's so gentle. It really was so low conflict. There was never even a moment where I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck. They're going to get caught. No, no, no, no. Yeah. Was that how Ocean's Eleven was? Like, was there low conflict. There was never even a moment where I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck, they're going to get caught. No, no, no, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Was that how Ocean's Eleven was? Like, was there any conflict in that? I think there was. I think there's at least peril that the heist isn't going to work. Right. And it's like, for this year, just like, these are like, it's like Barbie dolls hanging out with each other. Not like aesthetically, but the vibe of just like perfect friends.
Starting point is 00:52:06 And then at the end, after the heist, they're just eating pizza together in a loft. And I like, there's nothing more soothing. It was so soothing. So soothing. It felt like ASMR or something. It was a salve. It was a salve.
Starting point is 00:52:21 But it also, it's at the Met Gala that they're doing this heist. But then for what I think is 40 minutes, they just show a fake Met Gala. And that is so funny to me that they full on just do like, Heidi Klum is there in a gown. And they are giving the audience exactly what they want, which is like, the Met Gala was like a month ago and I miss it. So I need another one.
Starting point is 00:52:46 I need another one. Also, you, of course, get Kim, all the Kardashians, really. And like shots just like very present. It's like, that's the one, if I have one criticism, it's that I wanted to see. All right. I wanted to see more celebs. Oh, yeah. I need more celeb fanbos.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I want more like the blending. Because yeah. I need more celebs. I want more like the blending. Because it's also celebrities playing fake celebrities. I wondered at first if Anne Hathaway was going to play Anne Hathaway. That would have been genius. It would have been amazing. But it's like clearly they – I think I loved it in a very sincere way because it full force was like we are going to give women and queer people exactly what they want. Yes, exactly what they want. We're not going to like just do like a girl cast Ocean's Eleven.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Right. We're going to full on make it like a much different tone, which I thought was wonderful. I loved it. It was wonderful. I loved it. It was candy. I play this game, this like movie box office game online where you just like rank what you think the biggest movies of the summer are gonna be. And I kind of messed up.
Starting point is 00:53:55 I did put Ocean's 8 like third, like above Mission Impossible and like Jurassic World. Is it doing well? I think it's doing okay. and like Jurassic World. Is it doing well? Is it doing well? I think it's doing okay. It was, it's definitely not going to make a billion dollars,
Starting point is 00:54:11 but I, it was like wishful thinking to me of like, also Rihanna. I was just going to say also Rihanna. Get her on this show. Okay. We need to get Rihanna. We need to reach out at least. I've thought about it.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Okay. Well, the thing is, I think that we have a lot in common she just did WTF I'm kidding honestly
Starting point is 00:54:29 I think of you as my generation's Rihanna me personally yes oh god see I think that's what's keeping me that's what's keeping me
Starting point is 00:54:37 from you too winning acting and podcasting awards is because everyone thinks of me as an iconic singer yeah
Starting point is 00:54:43 it's hard to separate you into your various talents because really you just think like umbrella so you think that that's something that she really thinks like she's like oh they're not gonna take me seriously as an actress because i'm an iconic pop star rihanna yeah maybe i think maybe she's like so iconic as like the type of person that she is that I feel like even the character she was playing in this movie was like Rihanna influenced yes I want to
Starting point is 00:55:11 see her as like like in the hours like throw her in the deep end of the pool see how it goes but she did she like portrayed a believable sister sister like I believe that that little girl
Starting point is 00:55:27 was her sister oh yeah and I also was like how lucky is that little girl who got cast as Rihanna's sister oh my god anyone who had a bit
Starting point is 00:55:35 part in that movie our friend Will Steven was in the movie for two seconds I thought that was him no that's Will Steven I also am basically face blind
Starting point is 00:55:42 and I saw the movie with one of his friends and was going to lean over and be like, was that him? And then was like, no, of course not. No, it was him.
Starting point is 00:55:49 He was getting fucked up by Awkwafina in that, in I guess, Washington Square Park. Yeah. Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I did it. I recognized a person. You did it. Face blind. I was, it's, I think it's, I think it's a perfect movie.
Starting point is 00:56:03 Perfect movie. I think it's going to go to, it's in the same way that like Magic Mike XXL is one of my favorite movies because like nothing bad happens and it is like really kind and shows masculinity in a way that's really positive.
Starting point is 00:56:18 I felt the same way leaving this movie which was like nothing bad happened and everyone was friends. It was joyful. And I love that like you get the sense that they're going to remain friends. Like they all get on the subway together and like, yes, they all go off and do their,
Starting point is 00:56:32 because spoiler alert, they win, guys. Like they get away with the heist. Like that's part of it. But then they all go do the activities. But you do get a sense that they will get together and like, you know, eat more pizza in that loft. Yeah, they're going to get together and go see Ocean's more pizza in that loft yeah they're gonna get together and go see oceans eight as a group 100 or honestly i bet they all get together and get stoned and see jurassic world fallen oh yeah yeah yeah yes which i'm actually really
Starting point is 00:56:55 excited about too it looks bat shit crazy i am really excited um i have a few friends who've seen it and said that it's good apparently Apparently there's a scene where I don't, I feel like this is real. It might be in jest where they like have a closeup on Bryce Dallas Howard's shoes, which are flats to be like, we're not, we're not fucking around this time.
Starting point is 00:57:17 She's not wearing. She's wearing a flat shoe. And I was like, that is hilarious. No, I would never take her out of those heels. I'd be like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:24 No, they should be higher this time they should be higher they should be like die hard boots like nine inch stilettos yeah the the flats lower the stakes
Starting point is 00:57:33 okay yeah it's a de-heightened for me that was like a highlight of the first movie like there was like like the scene with Lauren Lapkus
Starting point is 00:57:41 yes and Jake Johnson to me was the best thing about the movie we talked about this with Gabrus. It took me out of the movie where you're like, oh, wait, this is a good comedy moment. Yeah, this is a great idea. And it was a crazy blockbuster film.
Starting point is 00:57:52 And then the second best part of the movie had to be Bryce Dallas Howard's nude heels. Like, that had to be. I think that they should lean into them this time and keep showing close-ups where there's no like mud or anything on them. And I also feel like she should functionally be like floating through the whole movie. They should be like show her feet
Starting point is 00:58:13 running. Look, director. They should show her feet running but like her feet don't really touch the ground. They get like a half an inch away from the ground.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's actually lock it in as rule of culture. It's rule of culture number 79. Bryce Dallas Howard should always be in the the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's actually lock it in as rule of culture. It's rule of culture number 79. Bryce Dallas Howard should always be in the new heel. She should get them
Starting point is 00:58:31 surgically implanted. Also, her iconic haircut is now gone. And she's wearing like a ponytail, like a more functional like dinosaur saving ponytail. Yeah, but they can grab you
Starting point is 00:58:41 by that pony. I know. That might come into play. So I'm thinking like a writer I was gonna say we're getting a full masterclass also not for nothing but obviously a man wrote this movie if they're gonna think that those dinosaurs aren't gonna go right for that ponytail they've never been on a
Starting point is 00:58:54 jog yes exactly oh shit that's real listen I am so excited to go see the movie and I'm I understand thanks for plugging my movie I understand from it that they have to return to the island to save the dinosaurs because the island is
Starting point is 00:59:10 going to explode That is so crazy It's like a volcano island They understand that they have to go back to the island, Isla Sorna to save the dinosaurs and I don't know bring them where, I don't know but the island, Isla Sorna, to save the dinosaurs. And I don't know, bring them where.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I don't know. But the island does explode. And that's what you see in the trailer is the whole island exploding. Dinosaurs hopping in the water. And if what we're seeing is to be believed, the dinosaurs come back to society. Oh. And they, like, teach them how to be real English ladies. Yes. Or, like, my fair lady. Or they eat teach them how to be real English ladies. Yes. My fair lady.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Or they eat everybody all. Or BD Wong comes back and like just like invites them to his all Asian brunch. I love that every Saturday. Wait, was BD Wong in the first Jurassic World? Yeah. Yes. He was in the first and he was in like the original franchise. He was sort of a villain.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yeah. I think he is the villain. Yeah. This is, I was thinking in the car the other day there's like not a line i wish i had written more than clever girl i think it is like one of the best lines it can be used like it's so good in the first movie it's also so good as like camp yeah it's unbelievable think about that they when when spielberg was making Jurassic Park, he knew it was going to be huge. And in the script,
Starting point is 01:00:28 there's the line, hold on to your butts. And they said, you know, hundreds of millions of people are going to see this. Keep it. Keep the line. You know he fought for that line. We're going to stick with it. The character would say it. The character would say it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 Every frame had to be poured over. Let's really decide. And hold on to your butts say it. Yeah. The character would say it. This character would say it. Every frame had to be like poured over. You know what I mean? Like let's really decide. And Hold On To Your Butts made it. And Clever Girl made it. And all these things. And it's just like, you have to be thankful.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Movies today don't have enough catchphrases. You're 100% right. We're catchphrase queens. Big time. Like Ocean's 8 loved it. But like give me a catchphrase. Give me, well,
Starting point is 01:01:09 give me like Anne Hathaway like saying something like, I don't know. What's a good catchphrase she could have said in the movie? Hold on to your lips. Hold on to your lips. I think there's a sleeper quote catchphrase in Ocean's 8. When she's doing, like, the walkthrough tour of the exhibit and the camera crew's following her. I know what you're going to say. Oh, God, but you might need to help me remember.
Starting point is 01:01:26 How many carats are your diamonds? Enough. That was the closest we got to like a... A catchphrase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She gives you
Starting point is 01:01:35 over the shoulder movie star glamour. Enough. Like so fun. Okay, life. Yeah, sorry. No, no, no. We were gonna say.
Starting point is 01:01:44 It just is it is drag queens it's like everyone there studied at least drag race if not you could do
Starting point is 01:01:52 Anne Hathaway for snatch game absolutely you could do like the heightened persona did you guys know that I was on RuPaul's Drag U
Starting point is 01:01:58 yes I did know that I was like I feel like I have to not leave this podcast without bringing this tell us everything who who was there who was like, I feel like I have to not leave this podcast without bringing this up. Tell us everything. Who was there?
Starting point is 01:02:07 Who was there? Well, I was, when I first moved out to LA like seven years ago, I was on an extras casting website because I just was like working odd jobs.
Starting point is 01:02:16 I still get emails from mine. Casting networks. I just wanted to do like weird stuff and fill my days and make money. And on the casting website was a uh casting notice for like are you a sad woman do you love gay people then sign up for this new show are you a sad woman do you love gay oh my god uh check and check and checkmate and i wrote an essay that was like mostly based in reality but it was essay driven, the application process.
Starting point is 01:02:46 It was essay driven. It was like, you know, I exaggerated some things. And then you attach a photo and they called me in for like a in-person interview. And they were like, don't dress up. Dress normally. So my normal was I wore full, like a red track suit. And then a huge knit sweater that had a big duck on the back. And I wore ballet slippers and my retainer and just like my glasses and looked horrible.
Starting point is 01:03:14 I also like hadn't cut my hair in like four years or something. And they said, we love you. They were like, you are, you know exactly what we're looking for. And so I was on an episode and drag you, if you do not remember, which probably everyone does. Everyone. They would have three women who the queens would make over into drag queens to give them the confidence of a drag queen. Of course. And it was a single episode competition.
Starting point is 01:03:42 And I did win my episode. Yes. Not a problematic show at all. No, no, no, no. I mean, it's very layered, but I will say Ru is like the nicest person ever and truly believed that he was like making our lives better.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Like it was so sincere and I truly was like, this is a very sweet person. And I had a one-on-one interview with Ru where I tried to make myself cry during it. Oh my God. And I, like, cannot find the episode online anywhere else. They wiped it.
Starting point is 01:04:10 They truly did. I can't even, like, buy it. There's pictures of me online, though. My drag name was Smokey St. James. Love it. And it was, like, I was kind of conflicted about doing it when I first did it because I was, like, making up crazy shit to say.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And I was like, should I do this? I remember talking with my mom being like, is this like horrible that I'm doing this? And then now it is like the only thing I care that I've done. Which drag queen made you over? Mariah. Wow. So my episode was Mariah, Raven, and Jujubee. Jujubee, who I am a big fan of. Huge.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Was great. I feel like the queens did not really want to talk to the contestants off camera which was fine i i there's but then the other girls i was competing against were both like lovely young women who i like became facebook friends with and i then was like oh my god this sucks that I'm basically doing this as a bit. And then they seemingly were doing it for real. All three of you sort of opted into the same thing. Y'all got something out of it. That's true.
Starting point is 01:05:13 It was just different things. Yeah. You just happened to win. But we had a lip sync, and I lip synced Let's Get Physical. And I feel like I really, really gave it my all. Yeah, I'm not surprised that you won. If I can find it, I will send it to you. I want to see it.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Okay, wait. Maybe someone listening can find it. Is that the connection that got RuPaul on your web series? So RuPaul, that's the first time I met Ru. And then he followed me on Twitter a few years ago. And I messaged him. I was like, hey, I'm such a big fan. But also, funny thing is that I was this person. I was like, I'm such a big fan but also funny thing is that I
Starting point is 01:05:46 was this person he's like oh my god I totally remember you and then when I was uh working at the Simpsons last winter he actually came on and did a voice and it's so funny and uh got to hang out there oh and uh yeah so so so that was the email i emailed for my web series i emailed a bunch of famous people which you will see yes yes who i am varying degrees of friends with and was like but like sort of was just like this is the stupidest possible thing i could ask you for and some people just immediately email back like yes two seconds. Ru in two seconds emailed back and sent me the funniest. Yeah. And sent me this like hilarious clip that was like, girl, I do not think you should be doing this.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You seem desperate. I just it's a really bad look. But honestly, if you want this at me, I'm all behind you, bitch. And it was like I could not believe it. And I was so grateful to these people for playing along yeah Rue was the only one that tried to talk
Starting point is 01:06:47 some sense into you I know everyone else was like Megan you're doing great your web series is amazing but the Rue thing seems like that's because Rue
Starting point is 01:06:55 is the truth teller truly Rue will give you truth are you a Drag Race fan I am yeah so to this day who are you pulling for going forward
Starting point is 01:07:03 um Miss Vanjie Miss Vanjie she pulling for going forward? Miss Vanjie. Miss Vanjie. She wants Vanjie. She wants Vanjie. She's coming back. She's coming back? Well, rumor has it
Starting point is 01:07:12 that she'll be back for season 11. Rumor has it. I should have gotten her on my web series. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, next year my web series is going to be full drag race. We just did a show
Starting point is 01:07:21 with Alaska and Jinx Monsoon. That's amazing. And they were so nice they were so nice that's fantastic they were great we live for them Megan
Starting point is 01:07:28 we're gonna ask you what we ask all of our guests oh yes we can't believe we're only getting to it now we're only doing it now the conversation is rollicking it's rollicking
Starting point is 01:07:34 but then we'll ask and then we'll move on okay what is the culture that made you say culture is for me now this is to say that it's like
Starting point is 01:07:41 a piece of art a book a film a TV show a neighborhood, you know, whatever. You woke up one day and opened your window and you said, ooh.
Starting point is 01:07:51 And this is like the culture that sang back. Right. Well, my very, very sincere answer is Stephen Sondheim, which I, from, we were playing this game at work last week, which was like, which celebrity, should should they die do you feel complete ownership over like yes who is the person that for you would be like this is someone who was in my life to such an intimate extent and we were trying to list like three people and i was like the only person for me is stephen sondheim which from the time i was like a little kid, my mom is a huge Broadway fan. I'm like a huge Broadway fan.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Yes, yes. If that is not clear. And so introduced me very young, but I just feel like every stage of my life growing up, I was like, oh, so you can be incredible as a musician and you can be funny and you can be really dark and you can be like sassy with attitude all at the same time and just really clever and i feel like that sensibility carries out into so many of my different interests yes also because that he always operates in such specific atmospheres like that's something like into the woods is like just so genius that he took those stories and made it into what it is sweeney todd is for me the best
Starting point is 01:09:04 thing i've ever seen i agree i actually have said this multiple times but into what it is. Sweeney Todd is for me the best thing I've ever seen in my life. I agree. I actually have said this multiple times, but I was like, I think Sweeney Todd is the best piece of art that exists, and I'm willing to have this, hopefully not argument,
Starting point is 01:09:14 but conversation with anyone, which is like, it most successfully accomplishes the thing it's trying to set out to do. But it's also like, I love things that are like, super fun with like an intense edge to them. So that to me, Sweeney Todd in middle school or high school,
Starting point is 01:09:34 when I first started listening to it was like so influential. Groundbreaking. Yeah. Before I moved here, I thought I wanted to move to New York and try to write Broadway theater. And then was like, I guess I'll move to LA instead, but thought I wanted to move to New York and try to write Broadway theater. And then was like, I guess I'll move to L.A. instead. But maybe someday I'll move to New York. A Tony for Megan.
Starting point is 01:09:51 A Tony for Megan. I mean, I'm just trying to knock them out. I really ideally want to get a bit EGOT. Yeah, 100%. I somehow play the system in each of the categories. One of my friends at work pitched that I should make a short film about the making of an Emmy for Megan and submit it for an Oscar. Short form documentaries. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Which I'm going to work on that. Honestly, you know what I think is the easiest way to win an Oscar? Write a song in a movie. Yes. That is the easiest way. That is the easiest way. It's like it seems like they're just giving these out. Giving them out.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Sam Smith has an Academy Award. Bobby Lopez is not nominated. Right, right. As long as Bobby, yeah. Or like write it for an iconic film. I wrote. And it will ride the wave. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:32 I wrote for the Oscars this year. Right. Which was extremely fun. But mostly like the craziest thing that I saw during this. It also was unbelievable to see. Like Sufjan Stevens singing in front of me was really amazing. But for dress rehearsal the day before the Oscars, I did not know this. It also was unbelievable to see. Like Sufjan Stevens singing in front of me was really amazing. Amazing. But for dress rehearsal the day before the Oscars, I did not know this.
Starting point is 01:10:52 The musicians come and sing their real songs. And so you get like Mary J. Blige singing only to you and like 10 other people in the audience. Amazing. Wild. But for the – so they can time the winners. They have stand-ins who are extras. Sure. Who maybe kind of look like the people who could win right right right who come up and give fake speeches but they write them these stand-ins
Starting point is 01:11:11 write them like they are the people winning that's insane and and no shade on these people it's like an amazing job and you get to pretend like you're winning an Oscar. But so like someone would play like Timothee Chalamet or whatever coming up to the stage. Are they holding a statue? They get a fake statue and they'll be like, oh my God, thank you so much. I can't believe I'm like the youngest winner or whatever. Like facts about these people's lives.
Starting point is 01:11:37 And sometimes they go long and have to get played off. And I was like, this is the most mind blowing thing I've ever seen. There's so many layers to that. I can't believe that is done. I was so obsessed with it. I was like, this needs to be like a Christopher Guest thing. A hundred percent.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Because it's like the weirdest group. And I also was like, I got the sense that they did feel like they were winning. Which again, not trying to make fun of this. It just was like, you get, you're on the stage. People just, like Mary J. Blige was saying with the choir, it feels real. You can't help but like live it a little bit. Yeah, you're like, this might be the closest I get to this. This is amazing.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I did a stand-in for the ABC Upfronts a few years ago. Oh, love it. And like it was the year, and they all had us do different like, we had to stand in for certain people and read what they were going to be saying off the prompter. So we had to be good at reading off a prompter. And like I was playing John Ridley who created American Crime on ABC. And I had to like do the speech that was like, you know when they announce like a Best Picture nominee? And it's like this is American Crime.
Starting point is 01:12:41 And you look at the screen. But I literally. You did that flawlessly. I was serving you presenter. And then they were like, someone said to me afterwards, they were like, you really read the copy very well.
Starting point is 01:12:51 And it was the best compliment anyone ever gave to me. Because you know, as someone who wants to be involved in award shows going forward, I would love to be a presenter. I would love to be a presenter. Well, now you'll know if you win for real
Starting point is 01:13:02 that you can like talk with the stand. Like you'll know how to talk with the stand. And I'll be you win for real that you can like talk with the stand like you'll know how to talk with the stand and I'll be able to go up to them as like a talent and be like I was one of you guys I know
Starting point is 01:13:11 like there's a lot of standing it's a lot of sitting standing yeah yeah yeah it never goes away I get it and somebody will be like me right now winning best webby
Starting point is 01:13:18 best webby this bit we got I'm obsessed we got for Megan thank you we have to we have to make it happen.
Starting point is 01:13:25 It could span a career. I mean, literally. Yeah. Okay. I have a question for you. Yes. What is the best version of Sweeney Todd that you've seen? Because I have an opinion.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I have seen, I saw two different productions of the one that's off-Broadway right now at that church. Yeah, I think. Yeah, what's where no i forgot what it's called barrow theater and that was a really i thought that was a great production um just because it's so intimate you're basically sitting in the stage and they like serve you pie and stuff i am like just truly partial to the original which my mom a huge musical theater person she has said that the best day of her life was giving birth to me and my twin brother.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And the second best day of her life was when she was like 20 and saw the original Broadway production of Sweeney Todd and was like crying at the end by how much she loved it. It's so emotional. It's just like Angela Lansbury, who is just truly a queen, was so good at embodying the comedy of Mrs. Lovett, but then also the true desperation of her.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Yeah, ultimate tragedy. And has a great voice. And I just think as a performer, she's so warm and funny. And there's very few people like that where I really just love them and they're not larger than. Patti LuPone is amazing but she's like
Starting point is 01:14:47 hilarious because she's so larger than life that you're like that's Patti LuPone Angela is more sort of subtle in the way yeah I think I think that yeah it's your production my favorite that I will sit down and watch the whole thing like
Starting point is 01:15:03 maybe three or four times a year is the concert version with Patti LuPone and George Hearn and Neil Patrick Harris and I think that is amazing to me like and what's emblematic of what's so great about that is Patti LuPone's performance of Worst Pies in London because of what
Starting point is 01:15:20 you said like the broad kind of like genius execution of comedy there while she's singing in this operatic style, just note perfectly, telling the story. Because sometimes with Angela Lansbury, and this is, and listen,
Starting point is 01:15:35 it's fine. It's a safe space. I trust my sisters. I have a hard time, and this is my problem with Helena Bonham Carter in the movie, I have a hard time hearing exactly this is my problem with Helena Bonham Carter in the movie, I have a hard time hearing exactly what every single word is. But Patti LuPone is, wasp eyes and non-dial, like she's just giving you,
Starting point is 01:15:54 she is giving you every consonant. She really just slipped right into that. Oh no, incredible actor. For your consideration. No, but for me, that number and that whole show that performance of it I just love because they
Starting point is 01:16:08 lean into the comedy and I think it's so funny but it's also so scary and dark and also I love that it's just everyone's in like studio blacks
Starting point is 01:16:16 and they're just like doing the thing and like I think it just works so well can we put on a Las Culturistas production of Sweeney Todd
Starting point is 01:16:22 yeah oh my god I really would love you would be amazing Mrs. Lovett. I'd love to be a Lovett. You would be great. And then you guys can be whoever you want to be. You should be Sweeney Todd.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah, because you're evil and dark. Because I'm evil and dark. Yeah. And I think that. I think. I think I'll be. Toby. Don't.
Starting point is 01:16:39 No one yell. But I think I want to be Joanna. Oh, that would be beautiful. Okay, I see that. I think I want to be Joanna. Wait, one would be beautiful. I think I want to be Joanna. Wait, one more thing about Sweeney Todd. And then I promise we'll stop talking about it. No,
Starting point is 01:16:50 this is culture. I probably wrote it. I, one of my friends who's a Broadway fan brought up that he is 100% certain that Sweeney Todd and Mrs. Lovett have fucked by the end of the show. Like that. This is a big discussion. And I
Starting point is 01:17:06 was like blown away because I never once considered that in my entire life of listening to every single note of this show. I was like no it's clear to me that he has no use for her and that she
Starting point is 01:17:22 is very like obsessed with how withholding he is and just like keeps doing stuff for him. Like maybe I've I've been in the place of having an unrequited crush one or twice
Starting point is 01:17:31 one or twice one or twice where it's just like no one is giving you anything. So you're just like I'll do anything for you. I'll go get you a sandwich from CVS.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Yeah. And you keep filling the well and nothing. Yeah. So that's what I always assumed she was. OK. Then they're like no he
Starting point is 01:17:44 he doesn't like her but he's just like they're in a You keep filling the well. So that's what I always assumed she was. But then they were like, no, he doesn't like her, but he's just like they're in a relationship or whatever. And that seemed crazy to me. My AP Lit teacher had a take on this. Did you study Sweeney Todd? Well, this is when my AP Lit teacher, Ms. Jane McGinnis. You went to gay school? I went to gay school.
Starting point is 01:18:01 I went to gay school. Oh, my God. No, but I was so lucky because, and this is actually an insane story, but I took AP Lit in high school and she had us read all these amazing novels and everything, but then she was like, we're gonna actually stop the curriculum
Starting point is 01:18:15 and you guys are gonna, because Sweeney Todd was coming out the movie. And she was like, everyone go see the movie this weekend and then we'll talk about Stephen Sondheim and Sweeney Todd, because what he does is, in a way, literature. And so I went and saw it, and the movie was like my first time
Starting point is 01:18:31 ever seeing the story of it all the way through. And I do look back on the movie, and I understand what it is, but I have like a dislike of it. The movie sucks. The movie sucks. I was trying to like tiptoe around that, but the movie sucks. But she was like, in this movie,
Starting point is 01:18:47 those characters have fucked. And she was like, in other forms of it, like in the first Sweeney Todd, I don't think they fucked. But in this movie, they fucked. It just depends on whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:56 And I was like, what's making you say that? She's like, look at the way that like, like she's covetous of him, but like, it's like a more casual lived in thing. Like you can, you get the sense that looking at those two actors, those are like two characters that have touched each other. like, it's like a more casual lived in thing. Like you can,
Starting point is 01:19:07 you get the sense that looking at those two actors, those are like two characters that have touched each other. And she also is a little more sexual than, than Angela Lansbury plays her, which is like, zany. Matronly and zany. Yeah. I can tell you that in our production,
Starting point is 01:19:16 me and Bowen will have fucked. We'll have fucked, yeah. No, it's going to be really overtly sexual. It will be overt and possibly on stage. Yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:23 yeah, yeah. Possibly, probably. Well, Stephen Sondheim will send us a possibly on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Possibly. Probably. Well, Stephen Sondheim will send us a letter. He sends us,
Starting point is 01:19:29 he sends letters. They were going to do an all-male company at NYU. Well, here's the thing. Oh, sorry. I don't mean to interrupt. No, go, go, go.
Starting point is 01:19:36 He sent an email and it stopped. As I explained at the beginning of this when I flew to New York last weekend to see All of Angels in America in one day,
Starting point is 01:19:44 I then was reading, which I really loved. I was reading about the director whose name is Marianne Elliott, I think. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. And I was reading about her and they were saying that she managed to convince Sondheim to put on a all-female company that they're doing in the West End. Yes, I have heard about this. And she's such a talented director
Starting point is 01:20:05 and I'm like unbelievably excited for it. And I feel like maybe I'm cast. I don't know if they've told people yet. I haven't like auditioned and no one knows who I am. Who would you want to be, Bobby? I don't think I'd be, I think truly I should just always play crazy people. So like-
Starting point is 01:20:20 You should be Elaine, Elaine Stretch. I would love to play- You would do Ladies Who Lunch like a boss I do it I do it not even when I'm supposed to be doing it I'd come in
Starting point is 01:20:29 during someone else's song and just start doing it oh my god I love company no see I do too can I say can I admit something sinful
Starting point is 01:20:37 yeah have never seen any iteration of Sweeney Todd besides the movie and it like completely ruined it for me and I don't I'll send you the link
Starting point is 01:20:44 send me the link. Send me the link because you know what? Because now they're putting up all like the original productions on YouTube and you can watch the whole thing in one. I spent one day just like getting stoned and watching all of Sunday in the Park like Bernadette Mandy and it was the best. I've seen
Starting point is 01:20:59 so many bootleg Broadway shows on YouTube which is like a sign of like true obsession is like me. And like one of my best friends from school would just watch like wicked taped on a camcorder in the back row. And you just like see half of someone's head in it. And I just like craved it so much. I had to watch it.
Starting point is 01:21:19 There's also me and my roommate for, there's like a two hour super cut of everyone who's played Elphaba singing like and I from The Wizard and I and it is like
Starting point is 01:21:32 so funny but then also genuinely you're just like that was great that was a little nasal that's a great riff I haven't heard that one before
Starting point is 01:21:40 it's so crazy I have seen every single Defying Gravity performance and I there is one single one that is the best her name is Brandi Chavonne Massey
Starting point is 01:21:51 and she she was an understudy who got her moment darling and she told everyone when she said she's like if I'm going on I will be unforgettable don't know if it'll be good don't know if it if i'm going on i will be unforgettable don't know if it'll be good don't know if it will be the song but it will be unforgettable do do yourself a
Starting point is 01:22:11 favor listen to the last two minutes of brandy chavon massie's only it's wild defying gravity it is full out i did not realize she only did it once. So, so, so the way that you do the last riff is, ah. But she even like, but she, and the lead up to it, and the lead up to it is,
Starting point is 01:22:34 it's a wild ride and we are on it. Yeah. But the last, the riff that she decided to do instead of, ah, was,
Starting point is 01:22:42 ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, to do instead of was and I was just like oh my god you hear her throat rip in half
Starting point is 01:22:50 I know honestly everyone in the audience is dead it's like you don't just keep having to go up it's like and everyone's like
Starting point is 01:23:00 you can tell the whole company was like they were just like oh my god no one survived nobody survived that note that is like
Starting point is 01:23:10 the end of Black Swan oh yes leave it all out on the stage she can't possibly have done act two after that she's no way
Starting point is 01:23:17 she's singing no good deed after the experience that was I'm like flop sweating thinking about her doing that I'm like so overwhelmed.
Starting point is 01:23:26 Go YouTube it. It is a moment in time. A moment in time. And also like that's such an it's like trash. But Wicked is so. Oh I love Wicked. It's so good. I think it's clever. I think it's good. I think it's definitely clever. There's definitely like four
Starting point is 01:23:41 or five songs when you're like. Sure but people just shit on Wicked. Wonderful. It's like a WNBA. Yeah wonderful. It's like a WNBA thing. People it's definitely clever there's definitely like four or five songs when you're like oh my god when is this gonna be over wonderful it's like a WNBA yeah wonderful it's like a WNBA thing people shit on it all the time it's a punchline now but it's so good
Starting point is 01:23:51 no first of all like I truly think it's such a good story of like female friendship yes it's like a really great not
Starting point is 01:23:59 it's like not about the romance really and I think that's so fun it's about aspiration it's about I definitely wanna play like Fat Glinda that's so fun it's about aspiration it's i definitely want to play like fat glinda that's like another one of like my ideal i mean i won't say i'm fat i'll say that i'm a big glinda glinda was never like weight specific i know i just feel like
Starting point is 01:24:16 every glinda i've seen has been so tiny i feel like megan hilty has hips i'm like a 5'8". Like I broke a chair, as I said earlier. I'm just like a dense woman. And then you want to play Jewish Glinda. Yeah, I want to play Jewish Glinda. I think that's a great idea. Okay, so we're talking about doing... No. We're talking about staging Wicked.
Starting point is 01:24:39 And you play Elphaba in Act 1, and I do Elphaba in Act 2, and we switch roles. So we do Glinda, Elphaba, Elphaba, Glinda. That's amazing. I don't like that. I think it's too – you're like, oh. It's like – I think it's a weekend of shows, and then one night we play one iteration. Like in rep, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 I don't like that, and I don't like that, and I won't do that. I don't like that, and I won't do that. I think that you should switch off mid-scene. Like, I think you need to start like playing with it where like, but I also obviously want the two Elphabas to like get in a fight.
Starting point is 01:25:11 Yes. Like, I just kind of want this You want the whole show to break down and become about a behind-the-scenes meltdown. Yes. Yeah, I love that too. Okay, before we move on,
Starting point is 01:25:18 Deconstructed Wicked. Deconstructed Wicked. Before we move on, what did you think of Angels? I thought it was amazing. I did, this is like, my, I had heard a lot of amazing things about andrew garfield who i did not like sure my hot take is like why is he doing what i felt like was a caricature it it like that was
Starting point is 01:25:39 just my personal reaction is i felt like i was watching him doing this character and being like, I'm Andrew Garfield and look at how much I'm putting myself through to play Pryor Walter. The guy who played Lewis, who I had never seen before, and it turns out is like a Scottish guy playing a flawless Jewish guy was unbelievable. I kept thinking that he was forgetting his lines because he was so natural on stage and also like I am not a good actor I'm a good web series actor I'm a good I think I mean worthy like theater comedy actor I'm not like someone who's like figured out what all the lines mean like the thought of going over a script and being like, what is this person trying to say? I'm like, no, just say a joke.
Starting point is 01:26:28 But so when I see actual good acting, I'm like so blown away by it. And also just seeing 10 hours of theater is like all, like literally I went to New York, red eye, got in Saturday, saw 10 hours of theater and left on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:26:43 And it was like so soothing. And it was, like, so soothing. And you don't get that in LA. That is a pilgrimage. Yeah. It is literally, like, a religious journey. I live my brand. Do people usually see it in one day, or do they do it on two different days? People have been doing it.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Like, Josh saw it, like, did the whole one-day thing. In all in one day? Seven hours. I think it's good to do it all in one day because it truly, like, you forget about the world. Okay. Yeah. You're just like and also because you're watching these actors having memorized two full like four hour plays it's unbelievable i like have a horrible memory i don't remember how i got to this podcast i like floated here somehow the thought of like
Starting point is 01:27:20 having to memorize that many words is crazy it's's very scary. But you were very good at memorizing the very real scripts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah. For like three minute episodes, I'm really actually very good at memorizing scripts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the scripts, I mean, I wrote the scripts. So I think it's easier when you write the scripts out. Which is why I always demand to be the writer and actor on all my projects.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Yeah, absolutely. If I'm ever like lucky enough be the writer and actor on all my projects. Yeah. Absolutely. If I'm ever lucky enough to book anything, I'll just tell them, great. And I have to come in and just quickly rewrite the whole script. And then it's yours.
Starting point is 01:27:52 And then it's mine. And it's in your bones. And just be easier for me to memorize. Of course. That's all. Wow. I literally could go on
Starting point is 01:28:00 for many hours. For many hours. But here's the good news. And it's tonight, people. I don't think so, honey. Live at the Echoplex. So if you want more of all of this, you can come out to the Echoplex tonight. Doors open at 8 p.m.
Starting point is 01:28:15 And the show will begin at 9 p.m. And Megan Amram is going to be there. I love that it's Saturday right now, but we can be like tonight. Yeah, right. When you're listening, it's going to be Tuesday. That's an industry conceit for everyone at home. For people who listen after Tuesday, they can still hear us say tonight.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's Tuesday, June 12th, guys, it's tonight. If it's any other time, disregard. Do not go to the Echoplex. Don't go to the Echoplex. You're going to see some rock band. Of course. Oh, and we got our dates mixed up. This is not coming out June 10th. It's coming out June 12th, a day after Emmy voting opens. Right, but you can still vote on the 12th. Yes, and we got our dates mixed up. This is not coming out June 10th. It's coming out June 12th, a day after Emmy voting opens. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:45 Right. But you can still vote on the 12th. Yes. Right. You can vote until another day. Like the 24th. Yeah. If you're an Emmy voter, it's really important that you click on that little box that says
Starting point is 01:28:55 Megan Amram, an Emmy for Megan. There you go. But you guys also, villains of Megan's life, Andrew Law and Darcy Carden will both be there as well. So fun. So. Fantastic. It'll be great. And more. And more. Of course. Carden will both be there as well. So fun. So, fantastic. It'll be great.
Starting point is 01:29:07 And more. And more. But it's time for I Don't Think So Honey. And what is I Don't Think So Honey, Bo? I Don't Think So Honey is our segment
Starting point is 01:29:12 where we take one minute to rail against something in culture while saying the words I don't think so honey. So Matt, do you have something? I do.
Starting point is 01:29:20 And it's not necessarily figured out, but I feel like I could talk a lot about this. Me too. I'm on the same boat. Do you want to start first? Yes.
Starting point is 01:29:25 This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt song. Okay. So let's just briefly go through what this is. John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, his name is my name too. Whenever we go out, the people always shout. They say, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
Starting point is 01:29:44 Okay. First of all, who named their kid this second of all very unlikely i don't think so honey that someone else has that name his name is my name too you're gonna run into someone with john jacob jingleheimer smith i think that there's a lot of questions about the reality of this this is not a reality furthermore his name is my name too whenever we go out so now what what connects you the fact that your name is to is the same thing all of us i know lots of mats that i hate wow i would not go hang out with them whenever we go out which apparently it's a lot people always shout they say john jacob jingleheimer schmidt nah nah nah nah nah nah where the fuck do you live this is a really aggressive area and you need to move i don't think so honey the way you're living your
Starting point is 01:30:23 life seconds get a better friend with a more dynamic name that's real and stop with this toxic energy. And that's one minute. I really don't like that song. So, so powerful. I don't like that song at all. Thank you for that service. It's like a pub song,
Starting point is 01:30:40 though. Yeah, but I also don't like pubs. I don't think so, honey, pubs. I think it's a place where everyone goes and drinks. Sure, I mean, just by design. Ugh, that's disgusting. Alright, this is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey motorized scooters in
Starting point is 01:30:56 Santa Monica. They're everywhere, and someone told me at a general they go, what are you doing after this? I go, maybe I'm in Santa Monica. I'll go down to the pier, of course. I have to get a pier, a little pier stroll in. And they go, you have to use Bird. It's this app. It's this
Starting point is 01:31:11 service. You rent a motorized scooter. They're everywhere. You just hop on one and go. And I go, great. That sounds wonderful. And I said, oh, but my family, we have bad luck with wheeled vehicles, with things you would have to wear a helmet for. And he goes, no, it's fine. It's safe.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Do it. I go, I, I, I figured out, I download the app, I pay $3 for it. And it was, it was truly, um, truly a terrifying experience. I thought I was going to die, get hit by a car on Colorado Avenue. It was truly wild. I immediately, my judgment got the better of me. I said, I cannot do this. My grandma, my grandmother got hit by a me. I said, I cannot do this.
Starting point is 01:31:47 My grandmother got hit by a bus in China while she was on a bicycle. My mother got hit by a bus when she was in China. I am not about to get hit on a bird scooter while I'm in Santa Monica. I don't think so many bird motorized scooters. That's one minute. Also, I think there's a real issue in America that we are not talking about.
Starting point is 01:32:02 And it's this thing of allowing everyone to just get on a city bike. No. Allowing everyone to just get on a scooter. Like, you guys, these are hard things to drive. You should need a license. Usually you need a license. Okay. And now. And now it's time for Megan Amram. Megan, are you ready? Yeah, I just want to make sure
Starting point is 01:32:19 that no one has, no, I'll just do it. Everyone's really concerned with, like, making sure it's something new it doesn't matter okay this is Megan Amram's I don't think so honey her time starts now I don't think so honey hello kitty
Starting point is 01:32:30 you white bitch I always said that I loved her first of all she doesn't have a fucking mouth like you are just being such a passive aggressive
Starting point is 01:32:38 bitch you're not even willing to say what you goddamn think also you are always turned in profile I think it's like super fucked up. You will not just like look me straight in the eye, you white bitch.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Also, Hello Kitty's name is Kitty White. She's in third grade and she is the size of three apples. I think it is so honestly insane that you're measuring your weight in apples. Anyone could be any amount of apples, but give me your pounds because then I will know if you're really fat, you bitch. I also just think this is the most fucked up thing hello kitty has a cat named charmy
Starting point is 01:33:09 kitty that is her pet that is a slave hello kitty has a slave 15 seconds has a cat as a pet it looks more like a real cat than she does and i know that people have tried to say that she's not a cat she is and she owns another seconds free charmy that's all i have to say oh my god free charmy you hello kitty bitch okay so that's one minute so what you're saying is that hello kitty is a white supremacist no no she's just white and honestly this this whole thing is also fucked up because i love hello and i'm literally wearing hello kitty socks right now but i do think she needs to just like be real. She needs to be real.
Starting point is 01:33:47 My sister is going to be mortified to hear. She's going to be relieved to hear you said that you actually love Hello Kitty. I mean, I'm going to show you my socks. Please. Oh! Yes! I like love Hello Kitty. Beautiful.
Starting point is 01:33:57 Wait, wait, wait. So you're wearing a sock that is very low cut. How do they stay on your feet? I can never figure these socks out. They don't really make Hello Kitty socks for like size 11 women's feet look the san rio universe is fucked up i don't it's a bit that all the creators are like hello kitty's not actually a cat she's a person i think very honestly that's like a lost in translation like she is a anthropomorphized cat. Sure. Where she is like clearly a girl cat. Yes.
Starting point is 01:34:26 Like she goes to school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But She has relationships with people. So she's not like a pet cat but I think it's crazy that she has a pet cat. Charming.
Starting point is 01:34:34 It's like if it's like if Goofy's pet was Pluto. That's I think the closest closest analogy. But Mickey's pet is Pluto. Yeah, which is like still weird because they're both animals. Oh, oh, oh. But Mickey's pet is Pluto. Yeah, which is like still weird because they're both animals.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Wait, wait. But those are both dogs. A mouse owning a dog is fine. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. But a dog owning a dog is crazy. Yes. Yes. That's exactly right.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Absolutely. Wait, okay, so how do we think Hello Kitty came to be? Did a person fuck a cat? No. They haven't gotten into the origin story yet.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I want to make a dark like Batman Begins Christopher Nolan movie about Hello Kitty. Yeah. But apparently she doesn't have a mouth because they want you
Starting point is 01:35:11 to be able to put your own emotions onto her. I don't like that. Have your own emotions. That's what I think. Yeah. Don't make Hello Kitty
Starting point is 01:35:18 a blank canvas. Don't make me do your work for you. Exactly. I'm not your maid. Unless you're giving me a check. And last I check
Starting point is 01:35:24 you have to pay for Hello Kitty number a billion. you white bitch. I think that's one. Unless you're giving me a check. And last I check, you have to pay for Hello Kitty. Hello Kitty, you white bitch. I think that's one of my favorite items. And also, as a Korean American woman,
Starting point is 01:35:31 you were empowered to say that. about this Japanese company. It's a Japanese franchise. As a beautiful Korean American. I said what I said. Yeah. Wow, what a thrilling episode.
Starting point is 01:35:43 This is very thrilling. This is one of my faves. We got into the very thrilling We got into the culture We got into the We got into Past culture And we got into Present culture And we should say again
Starting point is 01:35:51 If you have not Watched an Emmy for Megan Then you don't get it And that's future culture It's really No it's Out right now You can watch it right now
Starting point is 01:35:59 Get to the website www.anemmyformegan.com Right I watched it on Vimeo Is that okay? That's how I watched it on Vimeo is that okay that's how I prefer it to be watched okay
Starting point is 01:36:07 built it by hand yeah built it by hand well there you go and you can see guest spots from and I'm quoting you that fucking bitch
Starting point is 01:36:17 Darcy Carden who kills which I think is amazing writing and I also think the best the best line of the whole thing is
Starting point is 01:36:24 you should win an Emmy for best betrayal thank you as you're filming at the mouth amazing yeah I wrote that you wrote that
Starting point is 01:36:31 yeah and I guess because we we do end every episode with a song oh I think we know what we're gonna do
Starting point is 01:36:40 here we go bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum so if you care to find me, look to the western sky.
Starting point is 01:36:50 As someone told me lately, everyone deserves a chance to fly. And if I'm flying solo, at least I'm flying free. To those who ground me Take a message back from me
Starting point is 01:37:08 Tell them how I am defying gravity I'm flying high, defying gravity And soon I'll match them in renown And nobody in all of us no wizard that there is or was is ever gonna bring me
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