Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "For Your Consideration" (w/ Megan Amram)
Episode Date: June 12, 2018Presenting the preeminent mind of our time, future Emmy award winning Actress for Best Actress in a Short Form Comedy or Drama Series, a talent that raises the voices of those around her: for your con...sideration, the iconic, Megan Amram! And Culturistas, this conversation rollicks! They talk “An Emmy For Megan,” Megan’s six episode scripted web-series (watch it here: http://anemmyformegan.com/) which is already changing the cultural landscape. Plus, “A Star Is Born” trailer, how to listen to music while walking, Escape Rooms (what is your role?), Ocean’s 8, Bryce Dallas Howard’s heels in Jurassic World, Stephen Sondheim, ALL of the Defying Gravity’s, and more!---LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:twitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Dog!
Look, Matt.
There.
Oh, I see.
Wow.
Bowen, look over there.
Wow, is that culture?
Yes.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Las Culturistas. Ding dong, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.
Ding dong.
Las Culturistas calling.
And there cannot stop watching the Star is Born trailer.
Oh, we?
You're talking about us?
Yes.
Yes.
We've, um, first thing Matt did this morning was pull up.
I woke up out of my sleep and I look over across the room and Matt's watching the Star
is Born trailer.
Okay. There's so the Star is Born trailer.
Okay, there's so much to say about it and the thing is like,
it's my most anticipated movie of my life
and this is now replacing Dreamgirls 2007
as the movie that I'm most excited about in my life.
Interesting.
And it's been now over a decade
because it has to be a musical with a pop star
and now that they're giving me that,
I feel very excited.
And this trailer looks beautiful.
And guess what?
Here's a little piece of culture.
It's the same DP as did Black Swan.
The same DP as did Black Swan.
Oh, that did Black Swan.
No, I know.
But is that, how did you find this out?
Reading a lot of articles.
Okay. So you've done the research. I out? Reading a lot of articles. Okay, so you've
done the research. I've been reading
a lot. That's amazing.
We should say we're in Los Angeles.
We're back in LA for a little bit.
We have some great episodes lined up.
We're far from the shallow now. We're far from the shallow
now, as they say in the Star is Born trailer.
We're far from
the shallow
now. that was like
a beautiful mix
of Bradley Cooper
and Lady Gaga's
voices that we just
the timbres
mixed
we gave
Bradley Cooper tone
yes
and Lady Gaga
operatic
vibrato energy
yes
now
our guest today
is also a singer
also a vocalist
vocalista
okay
the credits
They come rolling down. They come rolling down
as we say. First of all, she has a show with the Skivvies
on June 24th. Please check
that out. You know, she just
finished up a concert at 54 Below when she
was in New York, but she performed with the Skivvies
June 24th. Snap up those tics.
Also, she's just
a preeminent
mind, I would say.
I got to, we'll talk about this.
Preeminent mind.
Science for her when it came out, like I was, but I was, I just like withdrew my application
from med school and I was like, what the fuck am I doing?
But then like I read Science for Her and I was like, this is the funniest thing.
I still think it's one of the funniest things I've ever read in my life.
We were just screaming in the car.
And also I was happy because listen, this is not an I don't think so funny, it's one of the funniest things I've ever heard in my life. We were just screaming in the car, and also I was happy because, listen,
this is not an I don't think so funny, it's just an observation.
The Uber drivers in LA,
very chatty. Very chatty, and all I
wanted to do was share excerpts of science for her
with Matt. And we
cut the driver out of our conversation very quickly.
Because I was like, no, sorry, this is our moment.
So anyway. And then we laughed
out loud and said select lines from the passage
that he can't possibly have understood.
Of course.
She's a writer-producer on so many shows.
The Good Place, The Simpsons, Silicon Valley, Kroll Show, previously Parks and Rec.
I mean, there are those.
But we're going to talk today about her biggest credit to date.
Ladies and gentlemen, for your consideration.
The actress, writer,
producer, director of An Emmy for Megan.
Nominated for your consideration
for Outstanding Actress in a
Short-Form Comedy or Drama Series and
Outstanding Short-Form Comedy or Drama Series.
So much to talk about.
It's our honor to have Megan
Amram. Hi, Megan.
So happy to be here.
I was just clenching my fists waiting to get in on the Stars Born trailer.
Okay, give thoughts.
Well, first of all, I've never heard a country singer with Lady Gaga's placement.
Nope.
Her vocal placement.
It's so rich.
That vibrato is just huge.
Drive a truck through it.
We're going to get theater country.
And I love it.
I love that it's in a world.
It's like a science fiction movie in a world where country and musical theater has meshed.
It's like a dystopian future.
Honestly?
See, it throws me off a little bit.
That they chose country music as the scene?
No, no, no.
I love that it's country music.
It throws me off that Gaga
chose to keep the Gaga.
Yeah, she's not doing country at all. Absolutely love it.
I also love that she
in the trailer says
you know, people love my music
but they don't love the way I look.
And she's like a beautiful woman. She's stunning.
And then, this is my
I was watching it with my friends and my
theory is you never see her legs in the trailer.
What?
I was like, what if a twist in the movie is that she's actually only a torso?
And that's what she's saying.
It's like my face is very beautiful.
And I'm not saying that paraplegics, well, no, I'm saying she's literally just a torso.
Which is very beautiful.
It's a type of person.
But I think that might be the struggle. But they're burying the lead there by not showing that she's just a torso. Which is very beautiful. It's a type of person. Yeah, it's beautiful. But I think that might be the struggle.
But they're burying the lead there
by not showing that she's just a torso.
Wow, that would be an amazing twist.
And that would be even more,
they're saying Oscar bait.
Oh, yeah.
And awards bait big time.
Yes.
And I love it.
Lady Gaga just on her arms the whole time.
I don't know, we'll see.
Wait, there are so many,
because I've done the
thing now where I've
watched it so many
times where I've you
know how and every the
best part of the
trailer is like the
super cut towards the
end where this she's
screaming her song and
then literally there's
like many cuts of
different things of her
acting so hard.
Acting over here.
Acting over there.
Yeah. F filling up the frame
and there's a scene that i paused where she's in the bathroom there's a scene where she's
run out of a bathroom stall she's in like a business suit with her hair up in like a tasteful
situation and she's bent over screaming and i paused it and i was like what is that although
we do we do see the legs in that shot, I believe. We see her legs.
Oh my God.
Megan, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I really didn't watch carefully enough, obviously.
No, no, no.
I was focused on her face and her vibrato.
She could still be a paraplegic, and I'll tell you why.
Because oftentimes, Hollywood, they can be very smart.
And what they'll do is they film extra scenes just for the trailer to throw off fans.
You guys have been in LA for two days and you already get how Hollywood works
and I'm so impressed
speaking of Hollywood
let's just start off the
conversation yeah I love that
by talking about an Emmy for Megan
the buzz has been
a din of buzz
a deafening din
it's hard to concentrate there's so much buzz
it's like a white noise
that just distracts everyone.
Yes,
and white noise
puts you to sleep.
Absolutely.
But none of us are sleeping.
No,
it's like loud.
It's too loud.
It's really loud.
Do you find that maybe
like the buzz,
well,
this is actually
a really interesting
conversation to have
because,
you know,
the subject matter
is trying to win an Emmy,
but now we got to
that interesting thing
of when the buzz sometimes takes away from the work.
But this, it kind of feeds itself.
And that's genius.
Thank you.
I say this in the web series, but I really did make this to win the award.
I was watching the Emmys last year.
There's a bunch of new awards for web series content.
Yes, which is amazing, beautiful.
Yeah.
And I thought, you know, I, look, I'm not Lady Gaga yet.
No.
I can't carry a full, very, very strenuously acted movie yet.
Yeah.
Looks like she won't hurt herself.
But I can, yeah, a lot of pulled muscles on that set.
Pained, yes.
But I feel like my skills are good for like six minutes at a time.
Like I'm really charismatic for like
six minutes. So this podcast
is going to be great for like the first chunk
and then just horrible.
So I
think of myself as a web series
or tour.
But yeah, the
Emmy voting opens
Monday, June 11th. Okay, so this will come out the next day. This is coming out on Tuesday, June 12th opens Monday, June 11th.
Okay, so this will come out the next day.
This is coming out on Tuesday, June 12th.
Oh, this is perfectly timed.
This episode is going to be called For Your Consideration.
Oh, perfect.
Yeah, good.
Yeah, so I spent one day filming the series,
and I've spent weeks now publicizing it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I bought a billboard in Hollywood.
Is that real?
It's real.
Oh, it's real. Go see it. It's at billboard in Hollywood. Is that real? It's real. It's real.
Go see it.
It's at Hollywood Boulevard
in Wilton Place.
Here's the thing
for anyone listening out there.
It's really easy
to buy a billboard
that says anything.
Oh my God.
It is prohibitively expensive.
Cost prohibitive.
I spent more money
on the billboard
than I did on the series.
That's the way it works.
Yeah.
That's the way Hollywood works. And you the way hollywood works and you have
to get out there and promote yourself like remember when melissa leo bought her own for
your consideration yes i remember that and guess what she won the academy award now i have to ask
are is there something that we as the viewer do not know that is more esoteric in the emmy
sort of um in the requirements is it really just it has to have six episodes?
It has to be on YouTube.
It has to be uploaded before April, whatever it was.
Yeah, 27th.
27th.
And then, I'm sorry.
A date that shall live in infamy.
That will live in infamy, as FDR said.
And what was the third requirement?
These are truly the only requirements.
Six episodes.
There's no minimum length right
and they have to be under 15 minutes each which you know no problem sir yeah no problem and they
have to be uploaded at the right time they also um have to have scripts which is why i heavily
scripted my series right if anyone i i ideally wanted to send out the scripts of my series. Right, right, right. If anyone, I ideally wanted to send out the scripts of my series to the entire Emmy voting block.
It's more expensive
than you'd think.
To send out the scripts?
I'm willing to,
I just wish there was
an email list
you could just spam.
Yeah.
You would think that
it's as easy as this,
but it's not.
No, it's not.
And I think that if I win an Emmy,
I'll have the clout
to make some major changes
in the Academy.
Right, right right right because
where there needs to be changed there needs to be
changed now I need to ask you what
do you visualize as
the roadblocks
ahead of you yeah
who is competing with you in the category
bring down my spirit I'm sorry
no no no no I think it's like good to
be realistic I think
it's harder to get nominated.
I think once you get nominated, you'll win.
This is exactly what I'm thinking.
You're being realistic.
I don't know.
Here's the thing.
I don't know who else is competing in this category.
And come Monday, and if you guys are listening to this on Tuesday,
race to your computers.
Get in the Academy quickly.
I am so curious to see if other people had the same idea as me,
like that they'd be a good web series based actor or actress.
But I think there's going to be a lot of celebrities competing in this category.
And, you know, my name might not have the recognition that, say, a Natalie Portman.
I was going to say Penelope Cruz. I was going to say Penelope Cruz.
I was going to say Penelope Cruz.
I love her.
Beautiful, beautiful woman.
Beautiful girl.
So I might not be, you know, a Penelope Cruz, but I think I have a lot of spirit.
Yeah.
But should I get nominated?
I have set aside a slush fund to really, really hit the publicity home.
And I'm thinking I never delved into the New York market, which is so rude of me.
Yeah, it's really.
I was walking through Times Square recently, and I'm like, how do I get one of those big
electronic billboards, Times Square?
I could see it, just me waving at the tourists from far and wide.
So I'll be looking into that.
Please.
Now, it will be historic
if you are
not only nominated
but if you do win
for you to win
as a beautiful
Korean American woman
yes
thank you so much
for bringing this up
we can confirm
that we are talking
to a beautiful
Korean American woman
and that's because
that's how you've chosen
to identify
for purposes of
your life going forward
or just you know
are we seeing
just if you haven't are we seeing the project?
Just if you haven't seen the series, which seems insane, but I did a 23andMe recently and I found out I'm about 98% Ashkenazi Jewish.
But I found out I was 0.1% Korean.
Not negligible.
They included it.
They included it.
Jackpot.
And it's so easy to not include it, but they did.
They did.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They wanted you to know.
So many things made sense.
Yeah.
And, you know, I looked at myself in the mirror before that, and I always was like, what is that?
Yeah, yeah.
What is that about me?
Yeah.
What's that?
There's a beautiful Korean thing about me.
There's something fun.
Yeah.
There's something fun in the mirror.
Yeah.
There's something spicy. There's something spicy. There's something fun in the mirror. There's something spicy.
There's something, yeah, a little paprika thrown in there.
And I got my genetic results back and it all fell into place.
Now here's something.
I am a part of the Emmy Voting Academy.
And I got an email recently that they were doing a panel with Asian American women who were in the academy.
And I realized they hadn't asked me.
And it was a really horrible way to find out that I wasn't on the panel was by getting an invitation.
It almost felt like they were rubbing it in that they were like, we're inviting you, but you're not on the panel.
It's so emblematic, I think, of the industry and all the quote unquote steps forward that we're taking where it's like it's still so exclusive.
Even the diversity panels.
Erasure.
There's so much erasure and they're leaving out so many people.
They're a racist.
Exactly.
Really?
That's really what it is.
How dare they?
How dare they?
But I almost showed up and just like went on the panel.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought, you know what?
Let them have their time.
Well, you know, that's. But it's not them. It's you are them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought, you know what? Let them have their time. Well, you know, that's-
But it's not them.
It's you are them.
Wait, you're right.
I need to change the way I think about this.
You do.
Yeah, yeah.
And also here's the thing.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
And I think that if you had gone
and made an issue of it,
I think you might have been nominated for it.
Well, I have some big things coming up.
I really want to- In my web series, I also sing the national anthem,
which, I mean, is one of everyone's favorite songs.
Yeah, I love that song.
It's just like fun, carefree.
And different every time.
Different every time.
You have no idea what's going to come out of your mouth.
I really, for years I've wanted to sing the national anthem at a WNBA game
because very seriously, I think it's super fucked up how much people make fun of the WNBA.
It is.
I'm not a sports fan, but I just in theory love the WNBA.
Well, it is a punchline.
And why?
No, it's crazy.
They're amazing.
But I really want to sing the national anthem at a WNBA game.
We can probably make that happen. Yeah. I feel like Las Culturistas has a big pull at a WNBA game. We can probably make that happen.
Yeah, I feel like Las Culturistas has a big pull in the WNBA.
We do.
We'll just say out loud that, you know, we'll put it in the atmosphere.
Yes.
As they say.
I just also have to shout out, quick side note, is that I went to New York last weekend,
saw what I'd estimate to be every gay person in New York.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They'll hang out around the Times Square area.
They are all huge fans of this podcast.
That's crazy to me.
They certainly don't approach.
They don't approach us.
They don't approach us.
I'm going to tell them not to be shy,
skittish little mares anymore.
Do you know what happens?
Stop being a sly, shy, skittish little mare.
Sometimes I will receive a instagram direct message and it
will say bitch and they just call me a bitch what are you listening to as you stomp through time
square because i will be listening to music yeah and i feel music and something about me that is
very different and unique um is that
i feel music all throughout my body oh yeah especially never met someone when it's a very
good song you can really tell like i don't know i'm just i don't know if it means that i'm a
dancer maybe i should go on dancing with the stars i feel like you should be in a star is born i feel
like that's what that means well here's the deal the deal. Or Black Swan. Or Black Swan. I would love to do actually both. Attack it.
Attack it.
We played Black Swan.
We did Black Swan on stage as a musical with the music of Chicago.
Yes.
Oh?
And who do you think was Natalie and who was Mila?
I think Bowen was Natalie.
Yes.
You're correct.
I have more Mila energy.
Obviously.
Because Mila, you know.
Sexually devious.
She feels the music in her body and like, you know, she's very free and loose.
Right.
Hair down.
Hair down.
I do all my ballets with my hair down.
Yeah.
Yes.
Gets right in your face.
Yeah.
And also, then I have to respond to these people who are like, what are you doing?
And I'm like, where are you?
And then I don't get an answer to that.
So now there's just these gays watching me as I walk on the street.
Do you watch Game of Thrones?
I'm very scared of Game of Thrones because of the violence.
There's a lot of violence, but there's like a sparrow system where it's basically like a unit character who has all these people watching other people.
And I imagine that there's some sort of sparrow system in Times Square of gay people waiting for you to jazz down the street.
So Stomp, are you really hitting the steps heavy?
Well, what I do is, because I'm a very big fan of RuPaul's Drag Race, I like to lip sync.
But I don't want to do it outwardly.
I don't want to be a crazy person lip syncing the words on the street.
But I will, in my brain, picture myself performing the song.
And so sometimes that just gets away from me.
And I'll be emotionally.
That's, I guess, really what it is.
I'm emotionally embodying it physically.
Okay.
I have a very heavy step.
I've been told before that I need to sit down softer.
I didn't very heavy step. I've been told before that I need to sit down softer. I didn't break a chair.
This was, I have a history of older women telling me how to live my life.
And I just am very sweet and take it very sincerely.
Yes.
But I was at like a movie screening outside and there were all these like deck chairs.
And I sat, I sit down with my full force of my body.
I let gravity really do
most of the work and the chair like folded up underneath me and a woman behind me was like
maybe if you didn't sit like that it wouldn't happen oh my god what at what age do you become
this expert in chairs grizzled white woman who tells you how to sit who has no concept of
boundaries and tells a stranger how to place
their gravity on something.
I don't like her at all. Just because I'm
Korean, you can't do that.
She saw you and she said, I'm going to walk, let me walk
all over this Korean woman.
You're listening. I'm sorry, beautiful
Korean woman. Beautiful Korean. We're
quoting you. We're quoting you from the series.
I bent
a stool leg in San Francisco
out of bar in Chinatown,
and I have never been more humiliated in my own,
in a place where I meant to feel safe.
Wait, what was the stool made out of?
It was like a steel stool.
Everyone, okay, the people I was with
maintained that it was already warped,
and it was already that way,
but for some reason it had been propped up to look like it was
just structurally sound
but as soon as I
placed my weight on it
I ate shit and I just
fell to the ground. It feels like their fault. It feels like the
restaurant's fault. Have you sued them? Well I was with Blair
and Blair is a great lawyer
now in San Francisco and she was like we could
literally sue and I was like it's fine. a great lawyer now in San Francisco. And she was like, we could literally sue.
And I was like, it's fine.
Why are you attacking it like that?
Like why are you being nice?
Why not sue?
It was like a mom and pop Chinese bar.
And like I did not want to make waves.
Do you think that it's a trap that they put there to make people think they should lose weight?
Oh my God.
I feel like maybe it's like an elaborate system.
Everyone falls down on the stool. That is so Chinese. That would be very California of them too. Oh my God. I feel like maybe it's like an elaborate system. Everyone falls down
on the stool.
That is so Chinese.
That'd be very California
of them too.
It would be.
It would be.
I almost sued
an escape room.
Wait.
How?
That's also the whitest
thing I've ever said.
Okay.
Okay.
That's not part of it.
What happened?
I love escape rooms.
Love that.
Which is like
so stupid.
People shit on escape rooms all the time now.
They're like, oh, it's white people paying for struggle.
And I'm like, no, I love escape rooms.
It's also not paying for struggle.
It's paying for like a puzzle that you've immersed yourself in.
Get over yourself.
Yeah, that's an insane criticism of escape rooms.
It's very wholesome.
And I love puzzles of all types.
But I was in an escape room in Orlando Florida with my
brother and his wife and they were showing us at the end what we did wrong sorry look I'm flawed
just like any other beautiful Korean woman and a treasure chest that this man had propped up
fell on my finger and my finger started gushing blood.
Oh my God.
Which you can like,
I'm going to show,
not the podcast listeners,
but you can kind of see the scar on my finger.
On her beautiful Korean finger.
Yeah.
And I also,
I was just like,
escape rooms are dirty
because they're set up in like warehouses.
And they're always,
a million people are touching them all the time.
But the room I was doing was like horror themed.
So I hope there's like my dried blood somewhere in the room anyway it was fine my brother's a doctor and he wanted
to give me stitches but he's not a hand doctor and also he was my childhood bully so i was like
no yeah there's so many layers i don't trust you it was really layered but i have a question for
you so what is your role in the escape room? Because I feel that when you go into a –
This is such a good idea.
I feel like when you all go in there together, like my thing that I do because I'm not necessarily like the smartest sleuth, but I am really good –
The best lip syncer.
Yeah.
The best lip syncer.
The best don't burn.
I'm performing in the corner. No, but on our most recent trip to an escape room, they came over the loudspeaker and they said,
you can also, to help, look for hidden...
It was Easter eggs.
We were here doing Easter,
and then part of the theme was they hid little Easter eggs around the room.
And so I was like, good,
I'll look for the things hidden around the room.
I'm not going to find out the puzzle.
I also just like, I want to'll look for the things hidden around the room. I'm not going to find out the puzzle.
I also just like I want to set the scene of like me doing an escape room with like six huge gay guys.
And it was fortune teller themed and there were so many scarves in it.
And I feel like half of us just spent the time admiring putting scarves on.
No, I am like very much like a home.
I love homework. Like I love like math and figuring out more cerebral puzzles.
I don't have a great spatial reasoning.
I never know which side of my body is like right or left.
Wow.
So I'm not going to be the one who's like doing a gadget.
Yeah.
I have a question.
Yeah.
Because you are, you are like low key low key high key like a gamer
I would say
the reason I love
escape rooms is because I equate them to like
a real life like Zelda dungeon
oh my god the first time I did an escape
this is like not funny because I'm getting too
sincere about this the first time I did one
was basically Zelda themed it was
the most euphoric experience
of my life.
I was like, leave this disgusting world behind and put me in like a Zelda room for an hour.
Yes, please.
Yes, like that is like,
that is all I want out of an experience.
I really want to create Escape.
I'm like too lazy to do it.
But I have a bunch of ideas for themes.
Theme one is like general Hollywood meeting,
which just to set the scene if you've
never been on one it's like you get to a you get to a lobby at some building and usually a woman
is there to be like can i get you anything water diet coke and then you just like sit on a chair
and then you go into a meeting and talk about yourself and then nothing happens yeah so i want
it to be like you're in the lobby and all you have at your disposal is water and a Diet Coke.
And you have to like figure it out from there.
And then also haunted weed dispensary.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good one.
Like you're blowing – you have to blow weed smoke to see like a laser light on the wall.
There's like so many good options.
I think this is a thing that could really happen if you win the Emmy and your profile gets raised in Hollywood.
Wait, should I make an Emmy for Megan Escape Room?
Yes.
Oh my God.
That's really good.
But also just to put one more thing about the web series.
I'm doing this.
We'll come out after the show.
But I'm doing a show tomorrow, Sunday at UCB.
That's a screening and like a Q&A panel.
I love that.
Including my friend Andrew Law who was cut out of the series.
Andrew was in it?
Oh, no.
Andrew is so funny.
We did about a two hour long take of a scene that got entirely cut out.
Why was it cut?
Here's the thing.
And my series is not like, there's not a high bar for what got in it.
Oh, my God.
It was a lot.
Andrew is a very, very good friend of mine.
So I was like like we're just gonna
riff like we'll be in my bed together wait what do you mean it was scripted it was yes yeah we'll
riff around the script oh my god thank you so much for reminding me because i've seen the script and
it's definitely this script i'm really really proud of the script but we mostly i was like
andrew how was your day and he's like not good and I was like why and he's like my cum's black
and I was like
oh that sucks
why
and he was like
from eating so much dirt
and then we just
for like
what felt like
two hours
talked about
his black cum
black cum
and it was
it just
it didn't tonally fit
with what I was doing
I get it
because it's not about
you winning an Emmy
because honestly
you can't just
that was actually really selfish
of him honestly he's a very selfish
performer I have to really come out
and say that was really selfish of him to
not only like disregard your
script with this improv which I'm sorry
is like not an art form no
yeah and how dare he
like not talk about
like your Emmy because that's what the
show is about he was in a different series
I feel like
he just was
you know how you see someone
in a movie or whatever
you're just like
they don't know what movie
they're in
Andrew does not know
what series he's in right now
but at the show
along with Andrew
it will be moderated
by Jane Lynch
who won
last year
is Jane Lynch
really moderating it
yes
I swear to God
Jane Lynch is moderating it she is such a swear to God, Jane Lynch is moderating it.
She is such a sweetheart.
She's very funny.
I have not asked her this.
I do kind of want her to bring her Emmy from last year.
So I can hold the real one that I want.
I think she has a couple, right?
She has a couple.
Oh, she must.
But specifically, she won for the Outstanding Actress in a Short Form Comedy or Drama.
Can I ask one more question about like exactly what qualifies
because I might have a series coming out
and I just want to make sure it qualifies.
We've gone over the rules already.
No, but I need to ask another question
about the rules because-
No, I'm happy to help someone
who wants to follow my footsteps.
Because I think,
I said this to Bowen before we came here
and he described me as a unique bitch
in like a passive aggressive tone
and we haven't talked about it,
but I'm really upset.
I identify with you
because I very badly want to win a major award. Yeah. Yeah, and that's when I called him a unique bitch. And I said, talked about it, but I'm really upset. I identify with you because I very badly want to win a major award.
Yeah.
And that's when I called him a unique bitch.
And I said, wow, yeah, what a unique bitch.
And I was like, I smiled through it, but I was really upset.
I'm glad that we're airing it now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we'll have a more in-depth discussion about it later,
but I feel that it was very Hollywood of him to be very passive aggressive in New York.
Is Bowen different in LA than New York?
Yeah, 100%.
I can tell.
He scowled at a
man who was making
my coffee today.
Because he took
fucking forever.
I know, but it's LA, babe.
You have to do this.
He made a
He's on legal weed
right now.
No.
He's chill.
You need to relax.
He made a latte cocktail
with like
orange
like an orange
It was crazy. The cocktail the coffee cocktail I was like, like an orange rind garnish.
I was like, this is outrageous.
Was it good?
Honestly, it was for someone else.
It was for someone else.
But I literally, I was being very LA
and like, I was like, I even complimented.
I was like, that looks amazing.
And then, but Bowen, I could see,
he's kind of like very New York, right?
In that moment.
But like-
Okay, so do do I am I different
himself with Metro cards yeah it's like a full
deck of them
I guess no you've really brought your New York
your evil New York energy to LA
to be rude to this coffee maker
okay so can I tell you
something yeah first let me ask my question
and then I want to ask another question
and there will probably be more questions after that
so first of all I am thinking about making a web series that will probably be more questions after that. So first of all,
I am thinking about making a web series
that's five episodes.
But does that mean I won't qualify?
Yes, you have to have six.
That is insane.
I'm sorry, hun.
So wait.
You have to add another.
I know it's hard.
It wasn't something that was easy to script.
Right, no, I know.
But here's the thing.
So it has to be six episodes,
but they don't have a minimum time limit.
Correct.
So essentially you could make less content and qualify.
Correct.
All right.
I don't understand.
You can just do a clip show.
I don't know what your series is, but just make the fifth episode a clip show.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
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But why are you married to five?
Well, I just, that's just what we've been writing down
is five.
I mean, if you're going to do five,
it's not going to be an award contender.
You can put it out there,
but you should do like a two-part cliffhanger.
Again, I don't know what your series is, but I have ideas for breaking it up.
Okay.
Now, and you said you had a follow-up question?
I forgot it.
Okay.
Now, Megan, when you see – but you didn't foresee this Andrew episode while you were breaking this season.
I thought that it was going to just be a more natural fit.
Okay.
And I didn't know how I was going to edit it necessarily.
And I tried to get the Andrew scene in there, but it truly was just like nothing.
Well, there's no dramatic tension there because really all it is is a dietary change for him.
He'd have to stop eating dirt.
We were trying to be really grounded.
Remember our UCB training of yes and.
React like a person.
Rule of culture number 14.
Remember your UCB training.
But it just didn't work.
It just didn't work.
And I'm glad to have a public opportunity to hash it out with him.
This is new.
Have you talked about this before?
This is the first place you've talked about this.
I had to break it to him
privately that he was not
in the series
before it premiered
because I didn't want him
to like email his family
or anything
and be like,
look,
I'm in this award winning
web series
and then watch with them
and have to see the horror
on their faces
when they realize
he wasn't in it.
That would be so embarrassing.
But in that scenario
that you just outlined
for him to email his family and be like,
look at this award-winning web series,
he wouldn't have been,
he would have found out after the fact.
The timeline's really confusing there. I
have always been calling it an award-winning
web series from day one, just because
I think you can safely assume at some
point, but... And you put it out there
in the world. I remember my
question. Okay.
Can I give a spoiler oh of course okay so in the last episode our friend um your foe
darcy carden comes in and it's very much um the episode really takes a turn yes when darcy
kills megan yes that was the only part that was not scripted wow that's crazy yeah what's crazy
is i thought we were just gonna do like it's in my kitchen i thought it was gonna be like a nancy myers type episode you had props
wonderful women yeah yeah cooking whatever wonderful women cooking and uh yeah darcy
went psycho i mean i hate to call a woman crazy she went crazy yeah she was a crazy woman and
she poisoned me and white we should say white she's white yes woman she's a crazy woman and she poisoned me and killed me we should say white
she's white
yes
I mean I barely met
someone whiter
she's like six feet tall
so it's like more white skin
than most women
yes
but she
killed me
and
oh my god
that bitch
I also like
haven't seen Darcy
since she killed me
and she's gonna be
in the show tomorrow
and I just like
I'm really kind of nervous
but also excited
to get in
a fight with her on the stage right right right but i i have a note for you i guess okay um so
whenever i enter a room the first thing i think and this is because of survival instinct which
i don't know if you know about the climate right now but i think we need to start kicking in our
survival instincts oh yeah whenever i enter a room i, okay, in a moment of madness, how would I kill everyone here?
So I think you should have thought about that.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
You shouldn't have turned your back to Darcy, I don't think.
Even you feel like it's safe to do so when you're in a web series that's scripted that you're doing the script for.
Yeah, and so many people watching you.
Yeah.
You just can't ever
let your guard down
even if you're in a web series.
And you were literally
turning your back
because you were putting together
a set deck
or you were gathering props.
Yeah, I was putting together
a set deck.
And I think from what I can tell
you were just taking chopsticks.
Well, yeah.
There's, I was,
putting together a set deck
is like a very complicated thing.
It's like an LA thing so you guys might not
we don't understand
know about it
but
it stands for set decoration
yeah
right right
putting together
set decoration
okay now I understand
a little bit more
so yeah
the chopsticks were not
exactly how I wanted them
so I was
moving
well yeah
you need them to be
and so
she took that opportunity
to pour I guess
cyanide in your drink
yeah I don't know what it was but it did not taste good and it killed you and it killed me You need them to be. And so she took that opportunity to pour, I guess, cyanide in your drink. Yeah.
I don't know what it was, but it did not taste good.
And it killed you.
And it killed me.
Oh, my God.
Can I also say, like, so I just think for you, like, a good note would be, like, find out ways that you could kill people before they kill you.
That's, oh, my God.
Well, season two.
Here's the thing.
I hate to.
I'm sorry.
Are we in season two?
Did you just say season two?
I think I'm ready to officially announce season two.
I feel like season two ideally would come out
before the Emmy voting is done.
But no matter what happens,
so okay, Emmy voting is June 11th at 9 a.m.
Pacific Daylight's time or whatever, standard time.
Pacific Daylight time.
Yeah, it's 9 a.m. through I think June 24th
and then July 14th-h is when emmy nominations
are announced and i am ready for whatever happens that day yeah i think that if i get nominated i'm
a shoo-in to win and if i'm not nominated then season two is going to be coming back bigger
and better than ever i wanted to have the budget of a real television show.
And I have a lot of stunts that I want to do.
I think that there's going to be some pyrotechnics.
I want to use like the letterbox format,
like Master of None does.
And I have a lot of stylistic ideas for season two.
Can I ask you a question?
Of course.
So it's just outstanding actress in a short form.
Yes.
So this means lead actress and supporting actress is all,
and all acting is combined into this one category.
Yes, but here's the other thing,
and you might want to look into this for your series.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You have to be in more than 50% of the episodes
to count as outstanding actress.
Got it, got it.
So you were very careful to not allow any of the I poured over those words.
actors to be in more than.
Of course.
Because, you know,
Darcy is very good
in that last episode.
Not to pull focus from you
because you were also amazing.
Luckily for me
and unluckily for you,
she was not in enough episodes
so she could not submit
for this series.
But, you know,
if I win the Emmy,
I feel like maybe
she should accept it. Oh my God. Or I win the Emmy I feel like maybe she should accept
it or maybe I
I think like awards are
very complicated like maybe I
shouldn't accept it at all
you know that would be such that would be
very good such a great
turn you need to send someone important in your
place though because like you have to do like a Marlon
Brando yeah I'm gonna send Marlon Brando
as is dead Marlon Brando like he's on like a little bag of blood
we'll hit him up well he's a fan of the pot he's a famous yeah he's actually is gay so you know
he went to angels he's a beautiful gay ghost he's a beautiful gay ghost and beautiful now
in the physical world a beautiful little gay bag of blood so we're gonna bring him in whatever form
but you know what i think is really good of you, though?
She might not be eligible for this,
but you are a good friend
because you did raise her profile in a huge way
for her own category.
This is a real story,
is that Darcy was at Upfronts for the show that we were,
Darcy's on The Good Place, which I write for.
I like The Best Place.
Yeah, oh my God, wow.
Wow, wow.
Wow, I'm going to write that down.
Such a good show.
But she was at Upfronts, and someone came up to her and was like, oh, my God, Darcy, I love you in an Emmy for Megan.
Oh, my God. And seemingly did not know that she was on a television show. And I was like, this is exactly what I want to hear.
You raised her profile. Yeah, it was it was the best day of my life is hearing that story.
Between you and Darcy,
there is just one,
the delivery is so nuanced
because you have a line
that goes,
and this is written
in the script,
you say,
did you like the script
I sent?
And then she says,
yes.
Not like a,
yeah, I loved it,
or like,
yeah.
Yes.
We re-round it. We re-round it. We watched it again. We were like, we have to I loved it. Or like, yes. Yes. So mad at her. We re-round it.
We re-round it.
We watched it again.
We were like, we have to watch that back.
So good.
Darcy wrote that line.
It's amazing.
Oh my God.
Can I also say, how mad would you be if you won an Emmy for writing an Emmy for a Meghann?
Well, I literally had a dream last week that the nominations came out.
And I was nominated for Best Web Series
which is functionally right again
and not for Best Actress and I
was like excited but
like kind of upset. Yeah no I would be
actually pretty furious. How would the inverse
of that be if you were nominated for Actress
but not for Best Web Series? I think that would be fine
because that is the one that I'm really
going for. Interesting. Because I want to show
I mean I want to show my chops. Yeah that's important. And I feel like that's the Emmy for your'm really going for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I want to show, I mean, I want to show my chops.
Yeah, that's important.
And I feel like that's the Emmy for your chops.
If you literally win an Emmy Award for acting, huge.
Like, think of the door.
You don't get bigger than that.
Think of all the people who haven't won the Emmy Award for acting.
I'm like.
Sandra Oh.
Yes.
I'm going to be a higher profile actress than Sandra Oh.
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Unbelievable. I just want to say like
is there an award
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or were we snubbed
webbies
we were snubbed
we were snubbed by the webbies
were you nominated
we submitted ourselves
our reps submitted us
did you read all the rules
allegedly
I think so
okay okay
well I mean like someone
like someone
on the team
like probably like
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and they were like
okay this is all above board
let's submit them but we didn't we received no nominations I'm happy happy to put Someone on the team probably looked into it and they were like, okay, this is all above board.
Let's submit them.
But we did not.
We received no nominations. I'm happy to put my publicity force behind you guys for next year.
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What does that entail?
My own personal money buying one billboard.
Thank you.
That's one of the most cost prohibitive things of this whole promotion.
Right.
The campaigning process.
If you want a Webby, you could We Got.
We could We Got.
You could be the first We Got.
I don't think Whoopi Goldberg has a Webby.
No, she doesn't.
She really doesn't.
I don't see her working towards it either.
So listen, I mean, if she doesn't want to work for it,
that's part of the biz.
That's part of the industry.
Absolutely.
She really doesn't work hard.
I already know what I would say if I won an award.
What?
Come on.
You want to know my first line?
I do.
So I would be so surprised, even if I won an award. What? Come on. You want to know my first line? I do.
So I would be so surprised,
even if all the pundits like Sasha Stone,
Nathaniel Rogers,
even if they all said like,
it looks like it and it's Matt Rogers' to lose,
I would be surprised even if I'm not.
That's part of like my- What's the first line?
I would go up to the,
I would get my Emmy from,
let's say-
Padma Lakshmi.
I was going to say,
I was going to say Retta.
Retta.
But Padma- These are both great options. I was gonna say Retta Retta but Padma
these are both great options
yeah
so I would get my award
and I would turn to the mic
and I would go
for the next
45 seconds
I apologize
in advance
no
that's so good
I might steal that
yeah
I
I really wanna win
because I really wanna
keep saying it's not
it was not about the award
it was about the scripts it was about the award it was about the scripts
it was about the art
it was not about the award
that is you know icing on the cake
yeah my speech would be about
how as a child I would grow up
watching these shows
and just wanted to be a part of the community
that's what my speech would be about
I grew up listening to podcasts
and just wanted desperately to be,
it's like you listen to Rita Hayworth on a podcast.
You listen to Helen Hayes on a podcast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course, Rita Moreno.
Oh, Rita Moreno.
I think Rita Moreno just legit did WTF.
She did?
Yeah.
Oh my God, I want to listen to that.
I love thinking that Marc Maron and Rita Moreno were at like open mics together.
And that's where it's very funny from what WTF used to be to be like, yeah, Rita and
Mark just had like a really hard history in the New York comedy scene.
You know who was really, really good?
And this will be a fucking fantastic segue.
But you know who was really good on WTF was Anne Hathaway
she was great
she was great
similarly
similarly good
who as
as we scream
and shout
she was so good
in Ocean's 8
and you guys
we've all seen Ocean's 8
and now we're gonna
talk about it
we're all under the table
right now
just like flat on our backs
we've slid
we've slid off the chairs
just like I slid off my chair
and hit every bump on the way down.
When the Star is Born trailer came on before Ocean's 8,
I was fully wet.
And I, woo!
Yeah, it was a slip and slide down to the screen.
Ooh, baby, at the Arclight, honey.
And then, okay, so we saw it at the Arclight.
And then you can go outside and they have all the gowns
on display from Ocean's 8. So if you're in LA. Wait, I went to the Arclight and then you can go outside and they have all the gowns on display from Ocean's 8.
So if you're in LA.
Wait, I went to the Arclight
and I did not,
I feel like I was so blown away
by this movie.
I did not even register
the gowns.
I like don't know where
to start with this movie.
Well, pick a place.
It was, first of all,
it just was like,
I give it a true A++++
experience.
I cannot believe it has gotten
not that good reviews
because I was like
these are all
just like crusty
old men
who do not get
what this is going for.
The fact that it's set
at the Met Gala
is like the most
genius stroke
of storytelling.
We applauded
when they showed
the building.
It basically was
just a drag queen show.
The fact that it was
like eight of the
most famous actresses
pretending to be in a movie,
but they were just being like,
look,
it's me,
Cate Blanchett.
Yeah.
And like,
there's a scene where
Cate Blanchett and Sandra Bullock
find
Helena Bonham Carter
like,
eating Nutella on the floor.
She's like despondent.
And who was also fantastic.
Amazing.
Did an Irish accent just because.
There was some great accent work in this movie
and I was like oh you found your friend
Helena Bottom Carter
I could not be either
but Anne Hathaway is a
dream come true
she's so funny
the plumpest lips
this side of the Mississippi
huge lips in this movie
this is my favorite performance
she's ever done it's it is like perfectly self-parody yes yeah but she commits there's a
point where she just like makes herself cry looking in the mirror yeah yeah because she's not thin
enough you're using you're using all of your tools yeah truly it's for this movie there's also like
no con not to give spoilers there's like no real. For this movie. There's also like no, not to give spoilers,
there's like no real conflict
in the movie.
No.
It's just like
fun.
Beautiful women
hanging out,
having fun,
and then also having more fun
and then also having more friends.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like everything I want.
It's so gentle.
It really was so low conflict.
There was never even a moment
where I was like,
fuck, fuck, fuck.
They're going to get caught.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah. Was that how Ocean's Eleven was? Like, was there low conflict. There was never even a moment where I was like, fuck, fuck, fuck, they're going to get caught. No, no, no, no. Yeah.
Was that how Ocean's Eleven was?
Like, was there any conflict in that?
I think there was.
I think there's at least peril that the heist isn't going to work.
Right.
And it's like, for this year, just like, these are like,
it's like Barbie dolls hanging out with each other.
Not like aesthetically, but the vibe of just like perfect friends.
And then at the end, after the heist,
they're just eating pizza together in a loft.
And I like, there's nothing more soothing.
It was so soothing.
So soothing.
It felt like ASMR or something.
It was a salve.
It was a salve.
But it also, it's at the Met Gala
that they're doing this heist.
But then for what I think is 40 minutes, they just show a fake Met Gala.
And that is so funny to me that they full on just do like,
Heidi Klum is there in a gown.
And they are giving the audience exactly what they want,
which is like, the Met Gala was like a month ago and I miss it.
So I need another one.
I need another one.
Also, you, of course, get Kim, all the Kardashians, really.
And like shots just like very present.
It's like, that's the one, if I have one criticism, it's that I wanted to see.
All right.
I wanted to see more celebs.
Oh, yeah.
I need more celeb fanbos.
I want more like the blending. Because yeah. I need more celebs. I want more like the blending.
Because it's also celebrities playing fake celebrities.
I wondered at first if Anne Hathaway was going to play Anne Hathaway.
That would have been genius.
It would have been amazing.
But it's like clearly they – I think I loved it in a very sincere way because it full force was like we are going to give women and queer people exactly what they want.
Yes, exactly what they want.
We're not going to like just do like a girl cast Ocean's Eleven.
Right.
We're going to full on make it like a much different tone, which I thought was wonderful.
I loved it.
It was wonderful. I loved it. It was candy. I play this game,
this like movie box office game online
where you just like rank what you think
the biggest movies of the summer are gonna be.
And I kind of messed up.
I did put Ocean's 8 like third,
like above Mission Impossible
and like Jurassic World.
Is it doing well?
I think it's doing okay. and like Jurassic World. Is it doing well? Is it doing well?
I think it's doing okay.
It was,
it's definitely not going to make a billion dollars,
but I,
it was like wishful thinking to me of like,
also Rihanna.
I was just going to say also Rihanna.
Get her on this show.
Okay.
We need to get Rihanna. We need to reach out at least.
I've thought about it.
Okay.
Well,
the thing is,
I think that we have a lot
in common
she just did WTF
I'm kidding
honestly
I think of you
as my generation's Rihanna
me personally
yes
oh god
see I think
that's what's keeping me
that's what's keeping me
from
you too
winning acting
and podcasting awards
is because everyone
thinks of me
as an iconic singer
yeah
it's hard to separate
you into your various talents because really you just think like umbrella so you think that that's
something that she really thinks like she's like oh they're not gonna take me seriously as an
actress because i'm an iconic pop star rihanna yeah maybe i think maybe she's like so iconic as
like the type of person that she is that I feel like
even the character she was playing in this
movie was like Rihanna
influenced yes I want to
see her as like
like in the hours
like
throw her in the deep end of the pool see how it
goes but she did she
like portrayed a believable sister
sister like I believe
that that little girl
was her sister
oh yeah
and I also was like
how lucky is that little girl
who got cast
as Rihanna's sister
oh my god
anyone who had a bit
part in that movie
our friend Will Steven
was in the movie
for two seconds
I thought that was him
no that's Will Steven
I also am basically
face blind
and I saw the movie
with one of his friends
and was going to lean over
and be like,
was that him?
And then was like,
no, of course not.
No, it was him.
He was getting fucked up
by Awkwafina
in that,
in I guess,
Washington Square Park.
Yeah.
Yes.
Wow.
I did it.
I recognized a person.
You did it.
Face blind.
I was,
it's,
I think it's,
I think it's a perfect movie.
Perfect movie.
I think it's going to go to,
it's in the same way that like Magic Mike XXL
is one of my favorite movies
because like nothing bad happens
and it is like really kind
and shows masculinity in a way
that's really positive.
I felt the same way leaving this movie
which was like nothing bad happened
and everyone was friends.
It was joyful.
And I love that like you get the sense
that they're going to remain friends.
Like they all get on the subway together
and like, yes, they all go off and do their,
because spoiler alert, they win, guys.
Like they get away with the heist.
Like that's part of it.
But then they all go do the activities.
But you do get a sense that they will get together
and like, you know, eat more pizza in that loft.
Yeah, they're going to get together and go see Ocean's more pizza in that loft yeah they're gonna get together and go see oceans eight as a group 100 or honestly i bet they all get together
and get stoned and see jurassic world fallen oh yeah yeah yeah yes which i'm actually really
excited about too it looks bat shit crazy i am really excited um i have a few friends who've
seen it and said that it's good apparently Apparently there's a scene where I don't,
I feel like this is real.
It might be in jest where they like have a closeup on Bryce Dallas Howard's
shoes,
which are flats to be like,
we're not,
we're not fucking around this time.
She's not wearing.
She's wearing a flat shoe.
And I was like,
that is hilarious.
No,
I would never take her out of those heels.
I'd be like,
yeah.
No, they should be higher
this time
they should be higher
they should be like
die hard boots
like nine inch stilettos
yeah the
the flats lower the stakes
okay yeah
it's a de-heightened
for me that was like
a highlight of the first movie
like
there was like
like the scene with
Lauren Lapkus
yes
and Jake Johnson to me
was the best thing
about the movie
we talked about this with Gabrus.
It took me out of the movie where you're like, oh, wait, this is a good comedy moment.
Yeah, this is a great idea.
And it was a crazy blockbuster film.
And then the second best part of the movie had to be Bryce Dallas Howard's nude heels.
Like, that had to be.
I think that they should lean into them this time and keep showing close-ups where there's no like mud or anything on them.
And I also feel like
she should functionally be like
floating through the whole movie.
They should be
like show her feet
running.
Look, director.
They should show her feet running
but like her feet
don't really touch the ground.
They get like
a half an inch
away from the ground.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's actually lock it in
as rule of culture.
It's rule of culture number 79. Bryce Dallas Howard should always be in the the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's actually lock it in as rule of culture. It's rule of culture number 79.
Bryce Dallas Howard
should always be
in the new heel.
She should get them
surgically implanted.
Also, her iconic haircut
is now gone.
And she's wearing
like a ponytail,
like a more functional
like dinosaur saving ponytail.
Yeah, but they can grab you
by that pony.
I know.
That might come into play.
So I'm thinking like a writer
I was gonna say we're getting a full masterclass
also not for nothing but obviously a man wrote this movie
if they're gonna think that those dinosaurs aren't gonna
go right for that ponytail they've never been on a
jog yes exactly
oh shit that's real listen I am
so excited to go see the movie and
I'm I understand
thanks for plugging my movie
I understand from it that
they have to return to the island to save
the dinosaurs because the island is
going to explode
That is so crazy
It's like a volcano island
They understand that
they have to go back to
the island, Isla Sorna
to save the dinosaurs and I don't know
bring them where, I don't know but the island, Isla Sorna, to save the dinosaurs. And I don't know, bring them where.
I don't know.
But the island does explode.
And that's what you see in the trailer is the whole island exploding.
Dinosaurs hopping in the water.
And if what we're seeing is to be believed, the dinosaurs come back to society.
Oh.
And they, like, teach them how to be real English ladies.
Yes. Or, like, my fair lady. Or they eat teach them how to be real English ladies. Yes. My fair lady.
Or they eat everybody all.
Or BD Wong comes back and like just like invites them to his all Asian brunch.
I love that every Saturday.
Wait, was BD Wong in the first Jurassic World?
Yeah.
Yes.
He was in the first and he was in like the original franchise.
He was sort of a villain.
Yeah.
I think he is the villain.
Yeah.
This is, I was thinking in the car the other day there's
like not a line i wish i had written more than clever girl i think it is like one of the best
lines it can be used like it's so good in the first movie it's also so good as like camp yeah
it's unbelievable think about that they when when spielberg was making Jurassic Park, he knew it was going to be huge.
And in the script,
there's the line, hold on to your butts.
And they said, you know,
hundreds of millions of people are going to see this.
Keep it. Keep the line.
You know he fought for that line.
We're going to stick with it.
The character would say it.
The character would say it.
Every frame had to be poured over. Let's really decide. And hold on to your butts say it. Yeah. The character would say it. This character would say it. Every frame had to be like poured over.
You know what I mean?
Like let's really decide.
And Hold On To Your Butts made it.
And Clever Girl made it.
And all these things.
And it's just like,
you have to be thankful.
Movies today don't have enough catchphrases.
You're 100% right.
We're catchphrase queens.
Big time.
Like Ocean's 8 loved it.
But like give me a catchphrase.
Give me,
well,
give me like Anne Hathaway like saying something like, I don't know.
What's a good catchphrase she could have said in the movie? Hold on to your lips.
Hold on to your lips.
I think there's a sleeper quote catchphrase in Ocean's 8.
When she's doing, like, the walkthrough tour of the exhibit and the camera crew's following her.
I know what you're going to say.
Oh, God, but you might need
to help me remember.
How many carats
are your diamonds?
Enough.
That was the closest
we got to like a...
A catchphrase.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She gives you
over the shoulder
movie star glamour.
Enough.
Like so fun.
Okay, life.
Yeah, sorry.
No, no, no.
We were gonna say.
It just is
it is drag queens
it's like
everyone there
studied
at least drag race
if not
you could do
Anne Hathaway
for snatch game
absolutely
you could do like
the heightened persona
did you guys know
that I was on
RuPaul's Drag U
yes
I did know that
I was like
I feel like I have to
not leave this podcast
without bringing this
tell us everything who who was there who was like, I feel like I have to not leave this podcast without bringing this up. Tell us everything.
Who was there?
Who was there?
Well,
I was,
when I first moved out to LA
like seven years ago,
I was on an extras casting website
because I just was like
working odd jobs.
I still get emails from mine.
Casting networks.
I just wanted to do like weird stuff
and fill my days and make money.
And on the casting website was a uh casting notice for
like are you a sad woman do you love gay people then sign up for this new show are you a sad woman
do you love gay oh my god uh check and check and checkmate and i wrote an essay that was like
mostly based in reality but it was essay driven, the application process.
It was essay driven.
It was like, you know, I exaggerated some things.
And then you attach a photo and they called me in for like a in-person interview.
And they were like, don't dress up.
Dress normally.
So my normal was I wore full, like a red track suit.
And then a huge knit sweater that had a big duck on the back.
And I wore ballet slippers and my retainer and just like my glasses and looked horrible.
I also like hadn't cut my hair in like four years or something.
And they said, we love you.
They were like, you are, you know exactly what we're looking for.
And so I was on an episode and drag you, if you do not remember, which probably everyone does.
Everyone.
They would have three women who the queens would make over into drag queens to give them the confidence of a drag queen.
Of course.
And it was a single episode competition.
And I did win my episode.
Yes.
Not a problematic show at all.
No, no, no, no.
I mean, it's very layered,
but I will say Ru is like the nicest person ever
and truly believed that he was like
making our lives better.
Like it was so sincere
and I truly was like,
this is a very sweet person.
And I had a one-on-one interview with Ru
where I tried to make myself cry during it.
Oh my God.
And I, like, cannot find the episode online anywhere else.
They wiped it.
They truly did.
I can't even, like, buy it.
There's pictures of me online, though.
My drag name was Smokey St. James.
Love it.
And it was, like, I was kind of conflicted about doing it
when I first did it because I was, like,
making up crazy shit to say.
And I was like, should I do this?
I remember talking with my mom being like, is this like horrible that I'm doing this?
And then now it is like the only thing I care that I've done.
Which drag queen made you over?
Mariah.
Wow. So my episode was Mariah, Raven, and Jujubee.
Jujubee, who I am a big fan of.
Huge.
Was great.
I feel like the queens did not really
want to talk to the contestants off camera which was fine i i there's but then the other girls i
was competing against were both like lovely young women who i like became facebook friends with
and i then was like oh my god this sucks that I'm basically doing this as a bit. And then they seemingly were doing it for real.
All three of you sort of opted into the same thing.
Y'all got something out of it.
That's true.
It was just different things.
Yeah.
You just happened to win.
But we had a lip sync, and I lip synced Let's Get Physical.
And I feel like I really, really gave it my all.
Yeah, I'm not surprised that you won.
If I can find it, I will send it to you.
I want to see it.
Okay, wait.
Maybe someone listening can find it.
Is that the connection that got RuPaul on your web series?
So RuPaul, that's the first time I met Ru.
And then he followed me on Twitter a few years ago.
And I messaged him.
I was like, hey, I'm such a big fan.
But also, funny thing is that I was this person. I was like, I'm such a big fan but also funny thing is that I
was this person he's like oh my god I totally remember you and then when I was uh working at
the Simpsons last winter he actually came on and did a voice and it's so funny and uh got to hang
out there oh and uh yeah so so so that was the email i emailed for my web series i emailed a bunch of famous
people which you will see yes yes who i am varying degrees of friends with and was like
but like sort of was just like this is the stupidest possible thing i could ask you for
and some people just immediately email back like yes two seconds. Ru in two seconds emailed back and sent me the funniest.
Yeah.
And sent me this like hilarious clip that was like, girl, I do not think you should be doing this.
You seem desperate.
I just it's a really bad look.
But honestly, if you want this at me, I'm all behind you, bitch.
And it was like I could not believe it.
And I was so grateful to these people
for playing along
yeah Rue was the only one
that tried to talk
some sense into you
I know everyone else
was like
Megan you're doing great
your web series is amazing
but the Rue thing
seems like
that's because Rue
is the truth teller
truly
Rue will give you truth
are you a Drag Race fan
I am
yeah so to this day
who are you pulling for
going forward
um
Miss Vanjie Miss Vanjie she pulling for going forward? Miss Vanjie.
Miss Vanjie.
She wants Vanjie.
She wants Vanjie.
She's coming back.
She's coming back?
Well, rumor has it
that she'll be back for season 11.
Rumor has it.
I should have gotten her on my web series.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, next year my web series
is going to be full drag race.
We just did a show
with Alaska and Jinx Monsoon.
That's amazing.
And they were so nice
they were so nice
that's fantastic
they were great
we live for them
Megan
we're gonna ask you
what we ask all of our guests
oh yes
we can't believe
we're only getting to it now
we're only doing it now
the conversation is rollicking
it's rollicking
but then we'll ask
and then we'll move on
okay
what is the culture
that made you say
culture is for me
now this is to say
that it's like
a piece of art
a book
a film
a TV show
a neighborhood,
you know, whatever.
You woke up one day and opened your window
and you said, ooh.
And this is like the culture that sang back.
Right.
Well, my very, very sincere answer is Stephen Sondheim,
which I, from, we were playing this game at work last week,
which was like, which celebrity, should should they die do you feel complete ownership
over like yes who is the person that for you would be like this is someone who was in my life to such
an intimate extent and we were trying to list like three people and i was like the only person for me
is stephen sondheim which from the time i was like a little kid, my mom is a huge Broadway fan. I'm like a huge Broadway fan.
Yes, yes.
If that is not clear.
And so introduced me very young, but I just feel like every stage of my life growing up,
I was like, oh, so you can be incredible as a musician and you can be funny and you can be really dark
and you can be like sassy with attitude all at the same time and just really clever and i feel like that
sensibility carries out into so many of my different interests yes also because that he
always operates in such specific atmospheres like that's something like into the woods is like just
so genius that he took those stories and made it into what it is sweeney todd is for me the best
thing i've ever seen i agree i actually have said this multiple times but into what it is. Sweeney Todd is for me the best thing I've ever seen in my life.
I agree.
I actually have said this multiple times,
but I was like,
I think Sweeney Todd is the best piece of art
that exists,
and I'm willing to have this,
hopefully not argument,
but conversation with anyone,
which is like,
it most successfully accomplishes
the thing it's trying to set out to do.
But it's also like,
I love things that are like, super fun with like an intense edge to them.
So that to me,
Sweeney Todd in middle school or high school,
when I first started listening to it was like so influential.
Groundbreaking.
Yeah.
Before I moved here,
I thought I wanted to move to New York and try to write Broadway theater.
And then was like, I guess I'll move to LA instead, but thought I wanted to move to New York and try to write Broadway theater. And then was like, I guess I'll move to L.A. instead.
But maybe someday I'll move to New York.
A Tony for Megan.
A Tony for Megan.
I mean, I'm just trying to knock them out.
I really ideally want to get a bit EGOT.
Yeah, 100%.
I somehow play the system in each of the categories.
One of my friends at work pitched that I should make a short film about the making of an Emmy for Megan and submit it for an Oscar.
Short form documentaries.
Yeah.
Which I'm going to work on that.
Honestly, you know what I think is the easiest way to win an Oscar?
Write a song in a movie.
Yes.
That is the easiest way.
That is the easiest way.
It's like it seems like they're just giving these out.
Giving them out.
Sam Smith has an Academy Award.
Bobby Lopez is not nominated.
Right, right.
As long as Bobby, yeah.
Or like write it for an iconic film.
I wrote.
And it will ride the wave.
Yeah.
I wrote for the Oscars this year.
Right.
Which was extremely fun.
But mostly like the craziest thing that I saw during this.
It also was unbelievable to see.
Like Sufjan Stevens singing in front of me was really amazing.
But for dress rehearsal the day before the Oscars, I did not know this. It also was unbelievable to see. Like Sufjan Stevens singing in front of me was really amazing. Amazing.
But for dress rehearsal the day before the Oscars, I did not know this.
The musicians come and sing their real songs. And so you get like Mary J. Blige singing only to you and like 10 other people in the audience.
Amazing.
Wild.
But for the – so they can time the winners.
They have stand-ins who are extras.
Sure.
Who maybe kind of look like the people who
could win right right right who come up and give fake speeches but they write them these stand-ins
write them like they are the people winning that's insane and and no shade on these people it's like
an amazing job and you get to pretend like you're winning an Oscar. But so like someone would play like
Timothee Chalamet or whatever coming up to the stage.
Are they holding a statue?
They get a fake statue and they'll be like,
oh my God, thank you so much.
I can't believe I'm like the youngest winner or whatever.
Like facts about these people's lives.
And sometimes they go long and have to get played off.
And I was like,
this is the most mind blowing thing I've ever seen.
There's so many layers to that.
I can't believe that is done.
I was so obsessed with it.
I was like, this needs to be like a Christopher Guest thing.
A hundred percent.
Because it's like the weirdest group.
And I also was like, I got the sense that they did feel like they were winning.
Which again, not trying to make fun of this.
It just was like, you get, you're on the stage.
People just, like Mary J. Blige was saying with the choir, it feels real.
You can't help but like live it a little bit.
Yeah, you're like, this might be the closest I get to this.
This is amazing.
I did a stand-in for the ABC Upfronts a few years ago.
Oh, love it.
And like it was the year, and they all had us do different like,
we had to stand in for certain people and read what they were going to be saying off the prompter.
So we had to be good at reading off a prompter.
And like I was playing John Ridley who created American Crime on ABC.
And I had to like do the speech that was like, you know when they announce like a Best Picture nominee?
And it's like this is American Crime.
And you look at the screen.
But I literally.
You did that flawlessly.
I was serving you presenter.
And then they were like,
someone said to me afterwards,
they were like,
you really read the copy very well.
And it was the best compliment
anyone ever gave to me.
Because you know,
as someone who wants to be involved
in award shows going forward,
I would love to be a presenter.
I would love to be a presenter.
Well, now you'll know if you win for real
that you can like talk with the stand.
Like you'll know how to talk with the stand. And I'll be you win for real that you can like talk with the stand like you'll know
how to talk with the stand
and I'll be able to go up to them
as like a talent
and be like
I was one of you guys
I know
like there's a lot of standing
it's a lot of sitting standing
yeah yeah yeah
it never goes away
I get it
and somebody will be
like me right now
winning best webby
best webby
this bit we got
I'm obsessed
we got
for Megan
thank you
we have to
we have to make it happen.
It could span a career.
I mean, literally.
Yeah.
Okay.
I have a question for you.
Yes.
What is the best version of Sweeney Todd that you've seen?
Because I have an opinion.
I have seen, I saw two different productions of the one that's off-Broadway right now at
that church.
Yeah, I think.
Yeah, what's where no i forgot
what it's called barrow theater and that was a really i thought that was a great production
um just because it's so intimate you're basically sitting in the stage and they like serve you pie
and stuff i am like just truly partial to the original which my mom a huge musical theater
person she has said that the best day of her life was giving birth to me and my twin brother.
And the second best day of her life
was when she was like 20
and saw the original Broadway production of Sweeney Todd
and was like crying at the end by how much she loved it.
It's so emotional.
It's just like Angela Lansbury,
who is just truly a queen, was so good at embodying the comedy of Mrs. Lovett,
but then also the true desperation of her.
Yeah, ultimate tragedy.
And has a great voice.
And I just think as a performer,
she's so warm and funny.
And there's very few people like that
where I really just love them
and they're not larger than.
Patti LuPone is amazing but she's like
hilarious because she's
so larger than life that you're like
that's Patti LuPone
Angela is more sort of
subtle in the way yeah I think I think that
yeah it's your production my
favorite that I will
sit down and watch the whole thing like
maybe three or four times a year is the concert
version with Patti LuPone
and George Hearn and Neil Patrick Harris
and I think that is
amazing to me like and what's
emblematic of what's so great about that
is Patti LuPone's performance of
Worst Pies in London because of what
you said like the
broad kind of like genius
execution of comedy there while
she's singing in this operatic style, just
note perfectly, telling the
story. Because sometimes with
Angela Lansbury, and this is, and
listen,
it's fine.
It's a safe space. I trust my sisters.
I have a hard time, and this is my problem
with Helena Bonham Carter in the movie, I have a hard time hearing exactly this is my problem with Helena Bonham Carter in the movie,
I have a hard time hearing exactly
what every single word is.
But Patti LuPone is, wasp eyes and non-dial,
like she's just giving you,
she is giving you every consonant.
She really just slipped right into that.
Oh no, incredible actor.
For your consideration.
No, but for me, that number and that whole show
that performance
of it I just
love because they
lean into the comedy
and I think it's so
funny but it's also
so scary and dark
and also I love
that it's just
everyone's in like
studio blacks
and they're just like
doing the thing
and like I think
it just works so well
can we put on a
Las Culturistas
production of
Sweeney Todd
yeah
oh my god
I really would love
you would be amazing Mrs. Lovett.
I'd love to be a Lovett.
You would be great.
And then you guys can be whoever you want to be.
You should be Sweeney Todd.
Yeah, because you're evil and dark.
Because I'm evil and dark.
Yeah.
And I think that.
I think.
I think I'll be.
Toby.
Don't.
No one yell.
But I think I want to be Joanna.
Oh, that would be beautiful.
Okay, I see that. I think I want to be Joanna. Wait, one would be beautiful. I think I want to be Joanna.
Wait,
one more thing about Sweeney Todd.
And then I promise we'll stop talking about it.
No,
this is culture.
I probably wrote it.
I,
one of my friends who's a Broadway fan brought up that he is 100% certain that Sweeney Todd
and Mrs.
Lovett have fucked by the end of the show.
Like that.
This is a big discussion. And I
was like blown
away because
I never once considered that in my
entire life of listening to every
single note of this show.
I was like
no it's clear to me that he has
no use for her and that she
is very like obsessed with how
withholding he is
and just like keeps
doing stuff for him.
Like maybe I've
I've been in the place
of having an unrequited
crush one or twice
one or twice
one or twice
where it's just like
no one is giving you anything.
So you're just like
I'll do anything for you.
I'll go get you
a sandwich from CVS.
Yeah.
And you keep filling the well
and nothing.
Yeah.
So that's what I always
assumed she was.
OK.
Then they're like no he
he doesn't like her but he's just like they're in a You keep filling the well. So that's what I always assumed she was. But then they were like, no, he doesn't like her,
but he's just like they're in a relationship or whatever.
And that seemed crazy to me.
My AP Lit teacher had a take on this.
Did you study Sweeney Todd?
Well, this is when my AP Lit teacher, Ms. Jane McGinnis.
You went to gay school?
I went to gay school.
I went to gay school.
Oh, my God.
No, but I was so lucky because, and this is actually an insane story,
but I took AP Lit in high school
and she had us read all these amazing novels
and everything,
but then she was like,
we're gonna actually stop the curriculum
and you guys are gonna,
because Sweeney Todd was coming out the movie.
And she was like,
everyone go see the movie this weekend
and then we'll talk about Stephen Sondheim
and Sweeney Todd,
because what he does is, in a way, literature.
And so I went and saw it, and the movie was like my first time
ever seeing the story of it all the way through.
And I do look back on the movie, and I understand what it is,
but I have like a dislike of it.
The movie sucks.
The movie sucks.
I was trying to like tiptoe around that, but the movie sucks.
But she was like,
in this movie,
those characters have fucked.
And she was like,
in other forms of it,
like in the first Sweeney Todd,
I don't think they fucked.
But in this movie,
they fucked.
It just depends on whatever.
And I was like,
what's making you say that?
She's like,
look at the way that like,
like she's covetous of him,
but like,
it's like a more casual lived in thing.
Like you can, you get the sense that looking at those two actors, those are like two characters that have touched each other. like, it's like a more casual lived in thing. Like you can,
you get the sense that looking at those two actors,
those are like two characters that have touched each other. And she also is a little more sexual than,
than Angela Lansbury plays her,
which is like,
zany.
Matronly and zany.
Yeah.
I can tell you that in our production,
me and Bowen will have fucked.
We'll have fucked,
yeah.
No,
it's going to be really overtly sexual.
It will be overt and possibly on stage.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
Possibly,
probably. Well, Stephen Sondheim will send us a possibly on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Possibly. Probably.
Well,
Stephen Sondheim
will send us a letter.
He sends us,
he sends letters.
They were going to do
an all-male company
at NYU.
Well, here's the thing.
Oh, sorry.
I don't mean to interrupt.
No, go, go, go.
He sent an email
and it stopped.
As I explained
at the beginning of this
when I flew to New York
last weekend
to see All of Angels
in America in one day,
I then was reading,
which I really loved.
I was reading about the director whose name is Marianne Elliott, I think.
Oh, yeah.
That's a good one.
And I was reading about her and they were saying that she managed to convince Sondheim to put on a all-female company that they're doing in the West End.
Yes, I have heard about this.
And she's such a talented director
and I'm like unbelievably excited for it.
And I feel like maybe I'm cast.
I don't know if they've told people yet.
I haven't like auditioned and no one knows who I am.
Who would you want to be, Bobby?
I don't think I'd be,
I think truly I should just always play crazy people.
So like-
You should be Elaine, Elaine Stretch.
I would love to play-
You would do Ladies Who Lunch like a boss
I do it
I do it
not even when
I'm supposed to be doing it
I'd come in
during someone else's song
and just start doing it
oh my god
I love company
no see
I do too
can I say
can I admit something sinful
yeah
have never seen
any iteration of Sweeney Todd
besides the movie
and it like
completely ruined it for me
and I don't
I'll send you the link
send me the link.
Send me the link because you know what? Because now
they're putting up all like the original productions
on YouTube and you can watch the whole thing
in one. I spent one day
just like getting stoned and watching all
of Sunday in the Park like Bernadette
Mandy and it was the best. I've seen
so many bootleg Broadway shows on
YouTube which is like a sign of like
true obsession is like me.
And like one of my best friends from school would just watch like wicked
taped on a camcorder in the back row.
And you just like see half of someone's head in it.
And I just like craved it so much.
I had to watch it.
There's also me and my roommate for,
there's like a two hour super cut
of everyone
who's played Elphaba
singing like
and I
from The Wizard and I
and it is like
so funny
but then also
genuinely
you're just like
that was great
that was a little nasal
that's a great riff
I haven't heard that one before
it's so crazy
I have seen
every single
Defying Gravity performance
and I there is one single one
that is the best
her name is Brandi Chavonne
Massey
and she
she was an understudy
who got her moment darling
and she told everyone
when she said she's like if I'm going on
I will be unforgettable
don't know if it'll be good don't know if it if i'm going on i will be unforgettable don't know if
it'll be good don't know if it will be the song but it will be unforgettable do do yourself a
favor listen to the last two minutes of brandy chavon massie's only it's wild defying gravity
it is full out i did not realize she only did it once. So, so, so the way that you do
the last riff is,
ah.
But she even like,
but she,
and the lead up to it,
and the lead up to it is,
it's a wild ride
and we are on it.
Yeah.
But the last,
the riff that she decided to do
instead of,
ah,
was,
ah,
ah,
ah,
ah,
ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, to do instead of was and I was just like
oh my god
you hear her throat
rip in half
I know
honestly everyone
in the audience is dead
it's like
you don't just keep
having to go up
it's like
and everyone's like
you can tell
the whole company was like
they were just like
oh my god
no one survived
nobody survived
that note
that is like
the end of Black Swan
oh yes
leave it all out
on the stage
she can't possibly
have done act two
after that
she's no way
she's singing
no good deed
after the experience
that was
I'm like flop sweating
thinking about her
doing that
I'm like so overwhelmed.
Go YouTube it. It is
a moment in time.
A moment in time. And also
like that's such an
it's like trash.
But Wicked is so. Oh I love Wicked.
It's so good. I think it's clever. I think it's good.
I think it's definitely clever. There's definitely like four
or five songs when you're like. Sure but people
just shit on Wicked. Wonderful. It's like a WNBA. Yeah wonderful. It's like a WNBA thing. People it's definitely clever there's definitely like four or five songs when you're like oh my god when is this gonna be over wonderful
it's like a WNBA
yeah wonderful
it's like a WNBA thing
people shit on it all the time
it's a punchline now
but it's so good
no first of all
like
I truly think
it's such a good story
of like female friendship
yes
it's like a really great
not
it's like not about
the romance really
and I think that's so fun
it's about aspiration
it's about
I definitely wanna play like Fat Glinda that's so fun it's about aspiration it's i definitely
want to play like fat glinda that's like another one of like my ideal i mean i won't say i'm fat
i'll say that i'm a big glinda glinda was never like weight specific i know i just feel like
every glinda i've seen has been so tiny i feel like megan hilty has hips i'm like a 5'8". Like I broke a chair, as I said earlier.
I'm just like a dense woman.
And then you want to play Jewish Glinda.
Yeah, I want to play Jewish Glinda.
I think that's a great idea.
Okay, so we're talking about doing...
No.
We're talking about staging Wicked.
And you play Elphaba in Act 1,
and I do Elphaba in Act 2, and we switch roles.
So we do Glinda, Elphaba, Elphaba, Glinda.
That's amazing.
I don't like that.
I think it's too – you're like, oh.
It's like – I think it's a weekend of shows, and then one night we play one iteration.
Like in rep, yeah.
I don't like that, and I don't like that, and I won't do that.
I don't like that, and I won't do that.
I think that you should switch off mid-scene. Like, I think you need to start
like playing with it
where like,
but I also obviously want
the two Elphabas
to like get in a fight.
Yes.
Like, I just kind of want this
You want the whole show to break down
and become about a
behind-the-scenes meltdown.
Yes.
Yeah, I love that too.
Okay, before we move on,
Deconstructed Wicked.
Deconstructed Wicked.
Before we move on,
what did you think of Angels?
I thought it was amazing.
I did,
this is like, my, I had heard a lot of amazing things about andrew garfield who i did not like
sure my hot take is like why is he doing what i felt like was a caricature it it like that was
just my personal reaction is i felt like i was watching him doing this character and being like, I'm Andrew Garfield and look at how much I'm putting myself through to play Pryor Walter.
The guy who played Lewis, who I had never seen before, and it turns out is like a Scottish guy playing a flawless Jewish guy was unbelievable.
I kept thinking that he was forgetting his lines because he was so natural on
stage and also like I am not a good actor I'm a good web series actor I'm a good I think I mean
worthy like theater comedy actor I'm not like someone who's like figured out what all the lines
mean like the thought of going over a script and being like,
what is this person trying to say?
I'm like, no, just say a joke.
But so when I see actual good acting,
I'm like so blown away by it.
And also just seeing 10 hours of theater
is like all,
like literally I went to New York,
red eye, got in Saturday,
saw 10 hours of theater
and left on Sunday.
And it was like so soothing. And it was, like, so soothing.
And you don't get that in LA.
That is a pilgrimage.
Yeah.
It is literally, like, a religious journey.
I live my brand.
Do people usually see it in one day, or do they do it on two different days?
People have been doing it.
Like, Josh saw it, like, did the whole one-day thing.
In all in one day?
Seven hours.
I think it's good to do it all in one day because it truly, like, you forget about the world.
Okay.
Yeah.
You're just like and also because you're watching these actors having memorized two full like four hour plays it's unbelievable i like have a horrible
memory i don't remember how i got to this podcast i like floated here somehow the thought of like
having to memorize that many words is crazy it's's very scary. But you were very good at memorizing the very real scripts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, yeah.
For like three minute episodes, I'm really actually very good at memorizing scripts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the scripts, I mean, I wrote the scripts.
So I think it's easier when you write the scripts out.
Which is why I always demand to be the writer and actor on all my projects.
Yeah, absolutely. If I'm ever like lucky enough be the writer and actor on all my projects. Yeah. Absolutely.
If I'm ever lucky enough to book anything,
I'll just tell them,
great.
And I have to come in
and just quickly rewrite
the whole script.
And then it's yours.
And then it's mine.
And it's in your bones.
And just be easier
for me to memorize.
Of course.
That's all.
Wow.
I literally could go on
for many hours.
For many hours.
But here's the good news.
And it's tonight, people.
I don't think so, honey.
Live at the Echoplex.
So if you want more of all of this, you can come out to the Echoplex tonight.
Doors open at 8 p.m.
And the show will begin at 9 p.m.
And Megan Amram is going to be there.
I love that it's Saturday right now, but we can be like tonight.
Yeah, right.
When you're listening, it's going to be
Tuesday. That's an industry conceit for everyone
at home. For people who listen after Tuesday,
they can still hear us say tonight.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it's Tuesday, June
12th, guys, it's tonight. If it's any other time,
disregard. Do not go to the Echoplex.
Don't go to the Echoplex. You're going to see some rock
band. Of course. Oh, and we got our dates mixed up.
This is not coming out June 10th. It's coming out June 12th,
a day after Emmy voting opens. Right, but you can still vote on the 12th. Yes, and we got our dates mixed up. This is not coming out June 10th. It's coming out June 12th, a day after Emmy voting opens.
Okay.
Right.
But you can still vote on the 12th.
Yes.
Right.
You can vote until another day.
Like the 24th.
Yeah.
If you're an Emmy voter, it's really important that you click on that little box that says
Megan Amram, an Emmy for Megan.
There you go.
But you guys also, villains of Megan's life, Andrew Law and Darcy Carden will both be there
as well.
So fun. So. Fantastic. It'll be great. And more. And more. Of course. Carden will both be there as well. So fun.
So,
fantastic.
It'll be great.
And more.
And more.
But it's time for
I Don't Think So Honey.
And what is
I Don't Think So Honey, Bo?
I Don't Think So Honey
is our segment
where we take one minute
to rail against something
in culture
while saying the words
I don't think so honey.
So Matt,
do you have something?
I do.
And it's not necessarily
figured out,
but I feel like I could
talk a lot about this.
Me too.
I'm on the same boat.
Do you want to start first?
Yes.
This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey.
His time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt song.
Okay.
So let's just briefly go through what this is.
John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, his name is my name too.
Whenever we go out, the people always shout.
They say, John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt, na, na, na, na, na, na, na.
Okay.
First of all, who named their kid this second of all very unlikely i don't think so honey that someone else has that name his name is my name too you're gonna run into someone with john jacob
jingleheimer smith i think that there's a lot of questions about the reality of this this is not a
reality furthermore his name is my name too whenever we go out so now what what connects you
the fact that your name is to is the same thing all of us i know lots of mats that i hate wow i
would not go hang out with them whenever we go out which apparently it's a lot people always shout
they say john jacob jingleheimer schmidt nah nah nah nah nah nah where the fuck do you live this
is a really aggressive area and you need to move i don't think so honey the way you're living your
life seconds get a better friend with a more dynamic
name that's real and
stop with this toxic energy.
And that's one minute. I really don't like that song.
So, so powerful.
I don't like that song at all.
Thank you for that service.
It's like a pub song,
though. Yeah, but I also
don't like pubs. I don't think so, honey, pubs.
I think it's a place where everyone goes and drinks.
Sure, I mean, just
by design. Ugh, that's disgusting.
Alright, this is Bo and Yang's
I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now.
I Don't Think So Honey motorized scooters in
Santa Monica. They're everywhere, and someone
told me at a general
they go, what are you doing
after this? I go, maybe I'm in Santa Monica.
I'll go down to the pier, of course. I have to get a pier,
a little pier stroll in.
And they go, you have to
use Bird. It's this app. It's this
service. You rent a motorized scooter.
They're everywhere. You just hop on one and go.
And I go, great. That sounds wonderful. And I said,
oh, but my family, we have bad
luck with wheeled vehicles, with
things you would have to wear a helmet for.
And he goes, no, it's fine.
It's safe.
Do it.
I go, I, I, I figured out, I download the app, I pay $3 for it.
And it was, it was truly, um, truly a terrifying experience.
I thought I was going to die, get hit by a car on Colorado Avenue.
It was truly wild.
I immediately, my judgment got the better of me.
I said, I cannot do this.
My grandma, my grandmother got hit by a me. I said, I cannot do this.
My grandmother got hit by a bus in China while she was on a bicycle.
My mother got hit by a bus when she was in China.
I am not about to get hit on a bird scooter
while I'm in Santa Monica.
I don't think so many bird motorized scooters.
That's one minute.
Also, I think there's a real issue in America
that we are not talking about.
And it's this thing of allowing everyone to just get
on a city bike. No. Allowing everyone to just get on a
scooter. Like, you guys, these are
hard things to drive. You should need a license.
Usually you need a license. Okay.
And now. And now it's time for Megan Amram.
Megan, are you ready?
Yeah, I just want to make sure
that no one has, no, I'll just do it.
Everyone's really concerned with, like, making sure
it's something new it doesn't matter
okay this is Megan Amram's
I don't think so honey
her time starts now
I don't think so honey
hello kitty
you white bitch
I always said that
I loved her
first of all
she doesn't have a
fucking mouth
like you are just being
such a passive aggressive
bitch you're not even
willing to say
what you goddamn think
also you are always
turned in profile
I think it's like super fucked up.
You will not just like look me straight in the eye,
you white bitch.
Also, Hello Kitty's name is Kitty White.
She's in third grade and she is the size
of three apples. I think it is
so honestly insane that you're measuring
your weight in apples.
Anyone could be any amount of apples, but give me
your pounds because then I will know if you're really fat,
you bitch. I also just think this is the most fucked up thing hello kitty has a cat named charmy
kitty that is her pet that is a slave hello kitty has a slave 15 seconds has a cat as a pet it looks
more like a real cat than she does and i know that people have tried to say that she's not a cat
she is and she owns another seconds free charmy
that's all i have to say oh my god free charmy you hello kitty bitch okay so that's one minute
so what you're saying is that hello kitty is a white supremacist no no she's just white and
honestly this this whole thing is also fucked up because i love hello and i'm literally wearing
hello kitty socks right now but i do think she needs to just like be real.
She needs to be real.
My sister is going to be mortified to hear.
She's going to be relieved to hear you said that you actually love Hello Kitty.
I mean, I'm going to show you my socks.
Please.
Oh!
Yes!
I like love Hello Kitty.
Beautiful.
Wait, wait, wait.
So you're wearing a sock that is very low cut.
How do they stay on your feet?
I can never figure these socks out.
They don't really make Hello Kitty socks for like size 11 women's feet look the san rio universe is fucked up i don't
it's a bit that all the creators are like hello kitty's not actually a cat she's a person i think
very honestly that's like a lost in translation like she is a anthropomorphized cat. Sure. Where she is like clearly a girl cat.
Yes.
Like she goes to school.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But
She has relationships with people.
So she's not like a pet cat
but I think it's crazy
that she has a pet cat.
Charming.
It's like if
it's like if Goofy's pet was Pluto.
That's I think the closest
closest analogy.
But Mickey's pet is Pluto.
Yeah, which is like
still weird because they're both animals. Oh, oh, oh. But Mickey's pet is Pluto. Yeah, which is like still weird
because they're both animals.
Wait, wait.
But those are both dogs.
A mouse owning a dog is fine.
Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But a dog owning a dog is crazy.
Yes.
Yes.
That's exactly right.
Absolutely.
Wait, okay,
so how do we think
Hello Kitty came to be?
Did a person fuck a cat?
No.
They haven't gotten
into the origin story yet.
I want to make a dark
like Batman Begins
Christopher Nolan movie
about Hello Kitty.
Yeah.
But apparently
she doesn't have a mouth
because they want you
to be able to put
your own emotions
onto her.
I don't like that.
Have your own emotions.
That's what I think.
Yeah.
Don't make Hello Kitty
a blank canvas.
Don't make me do
your work for you.
Exactly.
I'm not your maid.
Unless you're giving me
a check.
And last I check
you have to pay for Hello Kitty number a billion. you white bitch. I think that's one. Unless you're giving me a check. And last I check, you have to pay for
Hello Kitty.
Hello Kitty,
you white bitch.
I think that's one of my
favorite items.
And also,
as a Korean American woman,
you were empowered to say that.
about this Japanese company.
It's a Japanese franchise.
As a beautiful Korean American.
I said what I said.
Yeah.
Wow,
what a thrilling episode.
This is very thrilling.
This is one of my faves. We got into the very thrilling We got into the culture
We got into the
We got into
Past culture
And we got into
Present culture
And we should say again
If you have not
Watched an Emmy for Megan
Then you don't get it
And that's future culture
It's really
No it's
Out right now
You can watch it right now
Get to the website
www.anemmyformegan.com
Right
I watched it on Vimeo
Is that okay? That's how I watched it on Vimeo is that okay
that's how I prefer it
to be watched
okay
built it by hand
yeah
built it by hand
well there you go
and you can see
guest spots from
and I'm quoting you
that fucking bitch
Darcy Carden
who kills
which I think is
amazing writing
and I also think
the best
the best line of the
whole thing is
you should win
an Emmy for best betrayal
thank you
as you're filming
at the mouth
amazing
yeah I wrote that
you wrote that
yeah
and I guess
because we
we do end every episode
with a song
oh
I think we know
what we're gonna do
here we go
bum bum bum bum
bum bum bum bum
bum bum bum bum
bum bum bum bum
so if you care to find
me, look to the
western sky.
As someone told me lately,
everyone
deserves a chance to fly.
And if I'm flying
solo, at least
I'm flying free.
To those who ground me
Take a message back from me
Tell them how I am defying gravity
I'm flying high, defying gravity
And soon I'll match them in renown
And nobody in all of us
no wizard that there is
or was is ever
gonna bring
me
down
happy logger
she's wicked
getting me down
so we've got to bring
her
down YouTube Randy Chavon Massey
bye
forever
dog
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Back when I was a surfer, I was one bad day away from a huge personal crisis.
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