Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Free Commerce Icons” (w/ Slayyyter)

Episode Date: July 29, 2026

We wanna [talk to] Slayyyter, Richard we should link later! Or now! The Worst Girl in America gives us a Best Episode in the World. Topics include Tumblr, Beyoncé, St. Louis, iPod culture, and the serendipity in “free commerce icons.” IDTSH’s on spelling, non-magnetic fridges, air fryers. CRANK IT.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do better or do less so I don't have to do so much. I'm Yamanika, and I'm out. Listen to You're the Problem with Yamanika on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there.

Wow, is that culture? Oh, goodness. Wow. Las cultureistas. Ding Dong, Las Culturistas calling. We are excited today because we can break news to the guests. Unless, oh no, there's no way she already knows. No, she doesn't know.

Because the cultural awards haven't aired yet when we're recording this. But by now they've recorded so you know, but our guest doesn't know. But our guest doesn't know. Our guest was nominated for album of the year. We're a Skrill in America. The album that's out now that you are celebrating in the streets and in the gutters, and on the roof tops of... Whatever you are.

Whatever you are. Worst Girl in America is this year's Las Coltraces Culture Award album of the year winner. Two nominations in the category. They said there might be vote splitting. And no. And no.

Worldco of America. Because the other nomination... The other one made me... I love... Her old stuff's good, too. It was like, Trouble Paris is really good. But it was also... And the other stuff.

And it's a good segue to the other... It's a great way in. It's a great way in. I love. Bo Nang, you said, you split. visibly said you want to bring our guest in to great fanfare. I do. I do.

Well, Worst World America Tour sold out. Yeah. S-O'd? World. Come on, world. And, gosh, she's so cool.

We caught her set at Coachella. Yes. Fucking 3 p.m. The vibes are in the fucking gutter. It's a, you got to, it's a rush. We saw Slater. 3 p.m. on Friday. We were like,

okay, the girls are hitting the. And it was, and it never came back up. No. I'm gonna say. Really? The festival had a highlight early. It was just like, man, you kicked it off. Thank you guys.

And she, well, she's a goody two shoes. Real follower. Rule follower. She's never done drugs in her life. Never. That's a quote from, I love Hollywood. And I still haven't. And you still haven't.

Good for you. Do you have some? I'd love to try it right now. Yeah. I can figure out some drugs, right? An exclusive. Hey Becca, can you just grab some drugs the harder than better? I've decided I'm going to do my drug debut here today.

We're on Lost Coach. Well, all that and more on this episode of Lost Coach. Please fucking welcome. Slater! We're so excited you're here. I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for having me. What an intro.

Holy shit. The album of the year winner, do you want to give a speech? Yeah, give a speech. Oh my gosh. I would like to thank you guys for bestowing this honor on me. Consider it bestowed. I would like to thank your. your academy.

Yes, it's us. It's us. I would like to thank all my friends and producers, and I also, you know, shout out to being double nominated for my other stuff that's a great way in to, in the older things. And the older things. Wait, how much of the older things are you playing in the sets lately? None. None. Because worst girl is a story. I feel like a lot of artists are doing

that where they just want the unit of the work to live on its own. I mean, if there's if there's like porous places for like the old stuff to come in then great yeah but like god that's that's such a fucking good story like that album start to finish for it to end on brittany murphy is just like whoa like the statement is so clear and like i was reading the boiler thank you thank your people and your team for sending us the boiler because there was one line in it that really struck me and i'm sure you agree with this because you had to approve but it was like after being like wrongly categorized as like a hyper pop girl and like I don't know like

I think and there were other sort of labels that like would have been attributed to you in the past but now it's like no no no like I'm not these things and the authentic thing is actually like the iPod from my teenage years yeah culture from the internet like like that was the like you agree with that yeah I never understood I feel like I was never in that scene and that like kind of internet micro trend genre terminology was like kind of put which I understand I feel like my visuals

were very bright and it was very like you know glitchy ish music but I just never I never felt like I fit into that category and I feel like even with this album it might feel experimental but I approached it from a very like traditional like

I wanted to make like long songs I wanted to do long like a long soul wax intro that takes like a minute to like like cook up, you know? And I think I just never felt like hyper popish. I just was like, I just feel like I am an artist. I don't even like the word pop star that freaks me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I just feel like, well, because the thing about this album in particular is it truly defies categorization because every genre is on it. And I also feel like when something is called hyperpop, that makes it feel very specific. But this is like, it's so much going on and your vocals are crazy. Thank you. And I feel like there's connotation with hyperpop. where there's like, um,

it isn't right to call you that because there's some idea that like the vocal isn't like present and forward and hyperpop, but your vocals are insane, like going from like screamo to like you and your cooie pop moment. Like I just performing that live must be crazy. And I wonder how you like even train your muscles to do that. It is. I kind of like,

I just kind of hope and pray. You got to. I feel like it's a warm up in a prayer. No, I've been warming up a lot more than I. ever have and like taking the vocal resting very seriously. I'm like, I love vocalists, I love like the art of singing and people that like actually treat it like an athlete would treat their sport, you know what I mean? Like it's, I really have read a lot about it.

I feel like I've tried to learn a lot about like what my voice can do and this album was a lot about tapping into different like voices or like screaming but also hitting like operatic register at the highest that I can try to. drying out different things. And so I feel like preparing for this tour. I'm just like, I'm going to be silent like the whole time with like a dry erase board being like, help, help. That's so chic though.

To carry around the dry erase board, just this is what I need and want right now. But I'm so not like that that I'm going to feel like such an asshole. Also, I'm like talk a lot. You're a gabber. I am chatty Kathy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So shut the fuck up for like a tour. I can't do it.

Damn. It's unheard of. Yeah. But like, it speaks to the. Gosh, for me, I'm going to say it's high school, because that's like iPod era down. Tumblr. Tumblr coded. And the first time someone vocal arrested was that I saw someone vocal arrest was the lead of our school musical.

And I was like, what is she doing? That's, okay. No offense, really extra in a high school musical to be like, get out of here. You're playing Kim and bye bye, bye, Birdie Mama. Brenda, no. Brenda. But isn't it perfect, though? Like this is the shit that like we if you were a theater kid in high school

You would have you would have done that if you were cast as dolly and hello dolly at the age of 15 Yeah like I I really I could because it's so refreshing to have that framed as like Have it framed as iPod music or that old technology speaks to it because it's like It's unalgo it's unalogramized or whatever Yeah it's it's not it is not trendy. It is a, this convocation of all these things. Yeah.

It's just a frankenstining of everything that I love and listen to, you know? On my, like, I feel like iPods, I really have a love for old technology quite literally. I just, I hate convenience. That quote of convenience being a killer, I find it to be so true because everything has become so easy. Everything is at your disposal. Every genre of music, every song you've ever wanted to listen to, you can just Google it, pull it up. And like it's there. Yeah.

And like with an iPod, you had to be so intentional. Sometimes it wouldn't even be all of my music. It'd be like my sister's like, like, she would like download like something from like, I don't know, Lowell Wayne or like Lady Gaga Just Dance. She like downloaded that and that's when I heard that for the first time. And it would all be on your iPod and you'd go to school and you wouldn't have anything else clouding it. It would just be what was on that device. Yeah. And I feel like that's what this album kind of feels like.

It's just like you can kind of listen to it all the way through. It's not really trying to be one thing. The writing is a little wacky. Like it doesn't really feel. like the, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, totally. Well, it's not like, it's like when the algorithm boils everything down to essentially a sound, because it hears you listening to it and enjoying it.

Like, you can't look back at what you've listened to and be like, that's who I am. You know, like with an iPod playlist back in the day, I bet if anyone out there, like, went back to what they were putting together at, like, 13, 14, 15 off like fucking Kazaa or like Napster even or whatever. Like, that's actually who you. you are like the mix of like I remember I would download like some performances from like American Idol that I want to have like YouTube rips yes yes when I learned how to do that it was over but then it would be like random like queen songs and like oh my gosh everyone had bohemian

rhapsody on their iPod everyone had that song and everyone learned the damn words but like I don't I like do we think that it's more embarrassing to like look at to have your algorithm back at you. Like, these are the songs you like, or is it more embarrassing to, like, look through your old stuff on your iPod where it's like, oh, God, like, the soundtrack to, like,

Annie is on this? Like, I don't know. It's not embarrassing, though. No, I don't think that anything anyone likes, they should be, like, made to feel embarrassed by. No. Because I had, like, legally blonde soundtrack on my, like, the musical soundtrack.

The best musical. Lorba Bundy. Oh, hello. I had, like, the MTV, like, showed it. Oh, yeah. Gay or European, I was like, well, this is the funny thing. That is a funny fucking musical. We know him.

What? We know gay or European. His name is Matthew Rich and I actually lived in his apartment. No, literally, I subletted his apartment. That's how small the like faggotry world is. Yeah. We know the guy who was gay or European. Oh my God.

Like, because I was then going to ask like, what are the most embarrassing songs? What were the most embarrassing songs on the iPad? I have no shame. Like none of it embarrasses me, but like I don't. know, I'm like of the age where like I loved, I had like Cheetah girls on my iPod. Hell yeah. And I still listen, I would still listen to like Hannah Montana and all of that now. Cheetah girls, Cheetah sisters. That's a sisterhood. That doesn't end. You have to start like you mean it. A hundred percent. Ashley Simpson just played WeHo Pride and I was like, wow, I bet that's going to be packed.

Because I remember when I was in high school, especially like, you know what I mean? Like just because she was like the Simpson sister that was a little fucked. Yeah. Even though she wasn't actually punk, like people did buy it. She was like the one who'd smoke a sigua. Exactly. Like my hair's dark. It's a little in my face, just a little. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm a badass. But like that shit, I used to, that was on my iPod next to like Patty LaBelle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's the beauty of the human experience. You feel like whatever you want and there's no shame. People need to just like what they like. And like, and also like read the room on things. I feel like everyone is so like wanting to be.

I don't know. It's just too, like, no one should feel cringed out by what they like because what you like is what you like. What's the wrong with that, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what is your experience with that transition, though? Because suddenly it's like, it's giving prestige

they're trying to say. And people that have been here have been like, yes, she's brilliant. But the thing is like, there is a moment happening now where you're getting, they are, they're trying to like gild you a little bit. You know what I mean? Yes.

It is interesting. Everything since Coachella has changed. so crazy. That was like the specific moment where everything changed and now it's very, it kind of went like, obviously I've been doing this for a while

but almost overnight it went from kind of like being like the like opener for a lot of tours or being like kind of someone that is like in this underground like tanking like all of a sudden

everyone's like you're the girl you're the girl you're the girl now. Are you like I was the girl I was here all along No, I mean, that, I would never want to have that attitude just because if this is the project that resonates with people, that's okay. I like it the most of my efforts. Great.

So like if they don't like my past stuff, like that's fine. And also like, I don't know, sometimes people are just not tapped in. I feel like I like love finding like underground artists and like smaller artists. Some people like it takes a minute for like they need something to pop for it to like fall into their lap, you know? Totally. Yeah. Like what off of the singles before the album. you that hint that this would be like the body of work I honestly the I think

beat-up Chanel's like the very first single the response for that that was like the first song I was putting out with like records in Columbia I was like that was the first like video I did with them I was like this could go one or two ways this is either gonna like be received well or like we're getting D worded dropped like soon so but like I don't know I didn't want to think of it like that but as soon as it came out everyone was like whoa the sound like this is so weird it's like so different and I haven't heard anything like it and people responded to it really well

and really loved the video and felt like nostalgia. Like I just could tell that people were connecting with it in like a meaningful way. Yeah. And yeah. There's a rawness to it

that like I want these nice things but I also want the stickiest weed. Yeah. I want a cigarette, rat, rat, rat, rat, rat, rat. Yeah. And I want vintage salines. Like it's like, it doesn't fucking matter.

I just want the things that I want. Yeah. I don't know Like it Because you're right Like it has very stone Missouri teenager that like Which I feel like I've been that

Who doesn't really know anything about designer What they're talking about But they're like I want like vintage Celine man Yeah And I want like I want like grills Because I used to say that And then when I like got into music

And I like had I like custom made like grills And I was like this so dumb What am I doing? But it's like it's like other St. Louis St. Louis legend It's like you're following in like Nellie's footsteps Oh yeah The hometown here

So like I want to say that St. Louis is like really popping the fuck off right now. I love to see it. Do you feel this way? I do. Like you, Nikki Glazer. I want to say like John Ham, Andy Cohen. Andy Cohen. Yeah.

Like there's some real hair. There's some real St. Louis royalty. St. Louis is, you know, we're going to have to visit the arch. We're going to have to visit the arch. Yeah. Like what is it a, like what's Stone Missouri teen Slater giving besides Stoned teen? I've said this a lot, but I was very cookie monster pajama pants girl. I almost wore my cookie monster shirt today.

Like, my hair would be like in one of these buns. Yes. And I would be like chewing. I would be like high. And I would like, I would, me and my, I have like hair in my mouth. Sorry. My friends would like drive around. And my friend group was like me, another girl and like two gay guys.

And we would like listen to like art pop and smoke weed. And like all the popular girls loved us because like if they were fighting with their popular friends or their boyfriend, they'd be like, oh my God. They're gonna like, they're gonna like smoke me out. We can like drive around and like listen to like Lana. Yes. And then they would like let us go to the parties because we'd like have the, you know. 100%. We'd steal liquor bottles and we'd have weed.

So they'd be like, oh yeah, you guys can come. Yeah. I love that. It was a very like, we all like helped each other out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ecosystem. Yeah, there was no hierarchy. We all like, we all had our checks and balances.

We like, you know. In the political system. Yeah. Yes. I mean, not that we even like have a sense of what high schools are like now, but it's like there was this. more like everyone like coexisting back in the day. Yeah.

Like I think it was like, yeah, there's the hierarchies aren't there because it was like, God, I got to imagine that being a kid now of social media age means that like things are governed by like numbers. You know what I mean? Yeah. By like follower accounts and stuff. Well, you know what brought actually a lot of people in high school together actually was the iPod of it all.

Like the like I remember being on the bus to like cross country meets and like someone would have made like something to play on the on the back of the bus and it will just be like you would find out that someone had this niche cool interest like I remember at the time like I didn't really in middle school I didn't know queen like my parents didn't expose it to me but then like seeing all these like kids I was on like a team with know every single word already to every single song yeah you know just that was an exposure and I just wonder if there's enough like I don't know but wild cards in the playlist now where people are like having that whiplash in terms of like the experience with each other.

Yeah. You know? Because now what's going on is we consume something, we watch something, and then like the immediate urge, whether it's like a movie or an album or a book, is to like see what other people think about it. Yeah. Does that make sense? Yeah.

I get, people do do that, but I so don't. No. You don't. I don't. But it's this, let me see. Is this the right thing to like or hate? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And I feel like what I was asking you earlier about people using you now is this like index is like I literally pulled up a video. Just a video it shows up on my algorithm the other day where it's about you and it's this like scholarly person. Scholarly. Are they though? Who knows? People use big words and it's like, do that. No, it's like if you're bald and haven't.

You must be like expert on pop music. You must be a doctor. It's just so wild. Like some of these guys are like, here's what I really didn't like. about what Olivia Rodriguez was doing. If you have a neck beard, you must have a doctor. And there's no, there's no sense in that song. What are you talking about?

But it's one of these neckbeards being like, so when Slater's talking about sucking him off in the elevator, she's really talking about this other thing. And I'm like, I think she's just talking about sucking him off in the elevator. Yeah, I think I meant what I said. Yeah. I think I meant what I said. I'm like, you know, in life, we're all sucking someone off in the elevator.

Capitalism. Yes. Like, no, I'm like, I met what I said. Because I think that's, because Crank has best lyric of the year to me. Thank you. Richard. Richard. Yeah.

Thank you. We need to link later. Yeah. Well, because my name is from like days and confused. Yes. Later. So it's like, there's like a lot, there's a lot going on in that line, you know? Yeah, yeah.

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Who's the problem? I'm Yamanika, and I'm out. Listen to you're the problem with Yamanika on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I feel like you do have a good taste. I do, but I think that no taste could be good or bad. Like, I feel like everyone just likes what they like.

And, like, when I see something that I don't like, or, like, I see, like, visuals that I don't like or I watch a movie that I don't like. Someone probably loves it. And sometimes, like, that someone is, like, my mom. Like, I don't want to, like, be mean if she, like, loves. She watches some shows that I think are really terrible. And that's okay.

She loves it. And I'm not better than her because I, like, have a cooler show that I watch. Yeah. No, I also think superiority is a very unattractive. attractive quality. Like some people that just pop off and call things bad and stuff. Like recently like, you know, there's like, I feel like a lot of people are like with Charlie's new era, right?

Like people are very like, oh, this is different. This isn't brat. And you even see her coming out and being like, hey, listen, a lot of you that like became fans of me during brat, you may not like music, fashion film. And that's fine. This is what I'm fucking doing. This is where I'm moving. But there is like, whenever I saw someone coming out and being.

like rock music is a bad song and I'm like how fucking dare you a and B that's like such a crazy nasty thing to stand behind and put out there like you are now the face of superiority in this way and I just that would drive me nuts like people love to you know chatter unlike anything yeah sometimes it's interesting though I think um watching people kind of like watching people like love or hate something like I feel like with my album a lot of people you know there were some like straight music bros who loved it and then some that like hated it and I was like that's so interesting

that like some of you like like like like like like like like fan base being like oh this wasn't for me like I wish she was doing more like dance pop and I'm like that's fine who knows maybe I will one day but I feel like people I don't know everyone everyone has a correct opinion in their own head but like opinions aren't like it's your opinion

doesn't mean it's right or wrong always opinions don't have to be principled and we're I think we're in a time when people's people want to like back that up with like the principled scholarly take when it's like you just don't like it and that's fine like it's as simple as that it's as simple as not liking it or maybe it's just not for you yeah there's certain things that just aren't for you you know like there's like artists that like make great music for who they make it for but it's like it's not for me yeah no that's okay of course you know people should understand that your

tastes which is I'm trying to like give you this like really Dick Sucky compliment, but it's like, the first time I met you was you were dressed as Hollywood from Cool World. Yes, love that. For a Halloween party, Ty's Underland's Halloween party. And then like, you have all these David Lynch references and you, you know your shit. And like I, I, I. Thank you. But you don't, this is your thing.

You don't brand a shit. You just let people come up. Midwest. Midwest. Oh, is that where that is true. It's Midwestern. Also, I feel like we aren't like born knowing about cool stuff. No.

Sometimes it takes a long time to like. like watch movies, develop your taste, even figure out what you wanna wear. Like when I think about like how I used to dress when I first started music, I like don't like cringe necessarily, but it's something I wouldn't wear now, but I'm like I was in my early 20s. I was like drunk every day, like sure.

Like I looked a little crazy. But like I think it just takes time for people. Not everyone comes out of the gate being like, oh yes, like this photographer and this, this like fashion house is great and this. I'm from St. Louis, I didn't know what the fuck. I didn't know any of that. Like everything,

I consumed was through like the internet and through Tumblr and through different things. So, you know, it takes time to broaden your taste palette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's okay. So I feel like, I don't know. I do, I feel like I like I like cool things that I like, but I don't know. Not everyone comes. Like, I didn't know these things all the time.

Yeah, I remember. I wasn't like in high school watching David Lynch movies. 100%. Right. Well, it's like I was like seeing, I was rewatching your Coachella performance. and I had recently read something where you had talked about, like, obviously, like, the big mass market pop stars were Beyonce and Gaga growing up in that you watched, like, I Am World Tour and the Monster Ball, like, again and again and again.

And I wanted to tell you, I see so much Beyonce in what you do. Really? Yes, there is a moment. Thank you. That's a crazy thing to say. Literally, even just, like, your hairstyle in it. And, like, when you hold the mic and the way that you went down into a note, I was like, there is something very specifically, Beyonce.

around, you know, around like the four era. And Sasha Fierce. And Sasha Fierce, but yes. But I was like, it was very, very, very like, there was a tiny little movement that you did. And it was, I can't explain it. You were clutching onto the mic and digging into a note and just the wind that was on you. I was like, this, Beyonce lives in this. Oh, my God.

In a real way. Thank you so much. She is like maybe one of my greatest idols of all time. I feel like growing up that was I would like study I would watch I Am World Tour DVD and I'm not kidding you if she was like oh I'm gonna go do that exact

tour in choreo again I could be a backup dancer I know every cue I know every moment of the show I know that I know it all I would dance on my coffee table yeah braces yeah family family gone mother's heels not cute ones like like TJ Max a block heel

and I'd be like dancing on the table and I would do it put your pickum dress on Oh, freak them dresses. See, and I know you and so many people now have started to say the name B-Day. People are really letting everyone know that B-Day is a masterpiece. It really is. Justice for so many of those songs, namely, Ring the Alarm. I was just, oh my gosh.

I know you love Ring the Alarm. I was just about to say that song, even subconsciously, I don't think I even realized it. But, like, when I hear, like, crank and ring the alarm, like, the anger. I was going to say crank. Unbridled female, like kind of rage. Screaming. Screaming. I love when Beyonce screams.

Don't hurt yourself. Oh, period. That's why I'm so excited for whatever act three is, if it looks like the rock album. We may even know by now, but like just what she did and don't hurt yourself. She's limitless. I know. Her and Jack White collabing, like, coolest thing ever. Yeah.

Of all time. I'm so glad you, like, linked that with Crank. Have you heard, someone did a remix of Crank and Henswell Roll? Oh, I heard that. It's perfectly. And the trolley from crank goes the trolley. Oh, stop. Dang, dang, dang goes the brow.

Oh my God. You and Judy feels right too. Yeah. I love Judy. We love Judy. Okay, so wait. I'm a big, like, I'm a Judy Garland. Like, I'm like a freak.

You can tell, though. I'm just saying, like, I feel. I'm a big old Hollywood's like, you know, junkie. There's going to be, I'm just excited because of, I feel like now people are going to get to know you as really a vocalist. and especially, and I really feel, especially your performance on the Tonight Show, I was like, she is a singer, singer.

You really are. And I'm excited for any genre that you take on because it's one thing to be inspired by and influenced by these things, it's another to be able to execute it. Thank you. And you got it. So we should ask the question,

because we're kind of floating around it. Yes, because you've mentioned internet culture of your. Yeah. of your youth? What was the culture that made you say culture is for you? Oh, Tumblr. Yeah. I think I've been on the internet since I was very young, but I think Tumblr felt like it was at its largest and most powerful when I was in high school, and that was very formative

for my life. Also, interesting that that era of the internet, artists would full on, like, break on Tumblr. You couldn't really imagine that happening now, but Lana Del Rey, like, kind of broke on Tumblr. You know what I mean? That's the first place that I saw her visuals or heard of her. And I just remember that was kind of the first time that I entered an internet space and saw people making imagery that was meant to have like, that was meant to like make you feel something. Yeah. Curating like blogs to like have, you know, an aesthetic appeal. But it was more than just like looking good. Like people would write like blurbs about like, oh my gosh, I'm like really suicidal today, blah, blah, blah,

to like strangers. I'm like, what an interesting thing. time for the internet, people would be so real and raw. Everything is so, you know, even like cool girl Instagrams are like so curated now. People would just kind of like. It was an narcic. It was. It felt like performance online. And I feel like that was the first time I started to curate like visual.

I was very into like, you know, like see punk and like the visual. Yeah. Like vapor wavy kind of, you know, I would like curate my blog to have a certain color story and color palette. And I feel like it led me to like love visual storytelling. And, you know, I would be very particular about the gifts and images. It would not be like funny shit. Like I would want it to look very cool and artistic and movie like movie scenes that I love and like stills from things.

And like, you know, Alana Del Rey Giff of her with the flag. Like I just was super particular about it. And I feel like that impacted me so much. And I still kind of have that brain of like putting imagery together, you know? Yeah. I think you're talking about like directing. Yeah. Like I feel like it.

I don't think I would be able to make the videos that I make or make videos in the way I make them Without having been like a like tumbler weirdo. Yeah, you know? I'm very big on with all of my music videos There's like a focus color whether it's like minty teal or like in dance it was kind of like lavender and red Like I always like to pick a color and on my blog. I was the same way. I'd be like if the previous photo was green it needs to be something in the green world to like carry it over and we'll then get out of that into silver and then blue and And then like a picture of like dental equipment. Like weird, you know what I mean? Yeah. You just like link things into other things.

Yeah. And then suddenly you look back and you're like, oh, I'm, I'm, this is me. Yeah, I would back up from my like old junk laptop and be like, my masterpiece. It's literally just a blog, girl. But no, like, because, like, was it ever studied? Like, did you like read about color theory and shit? No, I would just kind of operate. I always loved art, though.

Like, I was like, I loved illustration and like, I loved illustration. and like I loved art class like drawing. I used to like draw a lot. I would make like they were so ugly. I would make like pen like really punk. They looked like something that would be at like a millennial burger like like this is like the fuck

the fuck face burger joint. Like I would make it almost no offense to like liquid fuck face burger joint is title of up. No offense to like liquid death but like my illustrations would look very like that logo like I would draw like skulls in my notebook. I would want to make like stickers for my skater friends. So I'd be very like punk tattoo like really cringe like whatever.

Not that whatever. But like I did like pen illustration. So I always loved art and like visual. I love drawing. I feel like I saw you talking to Nikki Reardon, who I love to. And he mentioned that the dollar sign in the circle, like the Slater logo, like how you're kind of calling back to like a Rolling Stones type logo. Like artists don't really have like logos like that.

Insignias like that. And I feel like that must harken back to those like visual identity and visual representation being like really important. You can put a, when you put like a spin on something or like make it your own, I think that that's like an important piece of it. But also I just find it interesting like, like I'm really into like knockoff purses right now. Why would I go buy plastic for a thousand dollars when I can buy it for like 50 bucks? 40 bucks on canal. And it's so interesting how people will still buy the knockoff just because they want the look of something with prestige. But they know that it doesn't have it.

It's just, I don't know. There's something to be weird. No, but it is like, I think it's cooler to know, like, where you, I know where you went to go get it was cooler than the place where that is sold. Yeah, like, you, like, got cash out of your, like, pocket and, like, haggled for your bag. Yeah. And that's, like, way more lit than, like, walking into a store where, like, some snob is, like, um, it's, like really expensive in here. I don't know if you can, like, shop. Right, right, right, right.

I get pretty woman all the time. Do you? Bitches hate me. Yeah. Have you gotten to big mistake, huge? Yeah, there was one really embarrassing moment. I had a really big blurb, or not blurb, but like, I had to fuck up because I didn't know. But there was one year I was like going to Fashion Week.

It was like one of my first like fashion weeks and like, you know, so set. Like fucking Cindy Lou Who, St. Louis, like, us in front row. And I was like, I'm going to go credit card charge a bag and then I'll return it after because I can't afford that right now. But I have to have the bag. Otherwise they're all going to think I'm a loser. So I get the bag and I take it to Fashion Week. I get like wasted. Yeah.

And there's makeup in the bag. And like I thought like certainly like a luxury purchase. Like I'll like make sure that it's taken well care of and like whatever. And it wasn't like beat up or anything. Like it looked brand new to me. And I took it back to the store and I was like, hi. It just didn't work out. I like to return it.

She takes one look inside the bag and she's like, um, you definitely wore this. And I was like, I was like, yeah. But like I like tried it and then I didn't like it. I can like return it. Right. And she's like, no, if you wear it. you can't return it. It was such a bitch.

Even just a performance you're doing of her, looking you up and down. And I was like, this is a $3,000 bag. I can't afford this right now. And I like almost had a panic attack in the store because like I don't know how crud. I'm just dumb. I don't know until you know.

And she was like, she was like, she was like, she was like, yeah, there's like makeup in it and like there's like creasing. There's makeup and an increase. I was like, well, take it back then. Yeah. And then like, you know, take it to second street or whatever it's called.

Yeah. Remember the bad. Take it to second street. Second street. is everything. By the way. I love Second Street. I shop there all the time.

I love it. I've got a lot of music video pieces from like there in Wasteland and like all different places. My favorite and first time in Second Street was actually when we were just in Tokyo. Yes.

Oh. Because Melissa who I was telling you about that like is the vintage shopper extraordinaire who finds everything for me was like we have to go to Second Store. It's my favorite place ever. Ooh. And I love that.

I would let her master list is probably crazy of like places. She's a genius. Yeah, she's really good. And also I just like. like when someone asked where you got something, telling them some far-fum place in the world. You know what I mean? From far, far away.

I got this from a weird store like outside of Vegas. Yeah. For like $5. Exactly. Yeah. That's fun. I love that. Hey, I'm Tori Webster and I host That Digital Take.

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I'm also thinking about like when we talked about like, you know, just the dollar sign of it all. And, you know, that kind of representation. Something popped in my head and it's relevant. It was like when I'm clueless, when Breck and Meyer goes to Brittany Murphy, like, oh, sick representation. Like the Marvin the Martian. I can zoom Marvin the Martian. That whole thing. And just like your shout to Brittany.

You guys got Kokiya? I love it. This is America. Every line. Guys have never had straight friends. But just the love that you give her. She's one of our favorites too. We always say like had she lived, I do think she would have had like a second and third

wind in her career where she would have just been so defining. She was an incredible actress. Amazing and effortless and signature. like vocalist in a way that I don't think a lot of people even realize it sounds so funny because it's a children's movie but like the happy feet soundtrack Oh yeah she's singing are Stunning yeah she did like a song with Paul Oakenfield and like she was just such a good singer it's like a shame that she never got to make an album There's like I know I really I love her so much I have so much like love in my heart Uptown Girls was a very important movie for me as a child and then watching as an adult takes on a completely new meaning and like really punches you in the gut

really devastating movie. But like I just, I love her so much. And I think her life and that feeling, like I watched her what happened to Britney Murphy docu-series, her life and like the feelings of like feeling like your career is kind of slowing down or like things are, people are turning on you and being like, why doesn't anyone,

why am I not doing like studio movies anymore? Why this, why that? And like how that must have felt. It like that is such a horrible thing. And it's just like, she was so talented. And it just makes me, it's like the greatest tragedy, I think, in Hollywood, genuinely. I would agree.

I think especially in the era where TV really popped off, I think she would have gotten a Handmaid's Tale type show to really show what she could do. Because you're right. She was funny. She could do serious. She was just like, I don't know, she had so much charm, so much aura. Natural charisma star qualities. Like the way she laughs, no one can ever replicate that.

I mean, there was just, and also the darkness that she, that she waited into. I mean, girl interrupt. did. People talk about Angelina because she won the Oscar and obviously Winona, but Brittany Murphy, what she brought to that was, that must have been hard to sit in the entire time shooting that movie because it's just mental anguish and pain and suffering. Yeah, her character's fate in that movie is like almost like the one that makes you the most sick. Absolutely.

Absolutely. And I'm shocked that no one's clipped her and dropped it Gorda screaming gay. Oh my God. He's gay. Yeah, forget it. It is incredible. That must have hit hard for you, too, being from St. Louis. Oh, yeah.

Well, that was St. Rose, Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. That's, like, a little more north. I love that. Sorry, I got it mixed up. I mean, same. I wish, I, like, love, like, the northern Midwest, like, accents.

Missouri's weird. I feel like St. Louis. Like, do, I don't have an accent to you. You do. I don't think I do, but there's, like, my grandparents kind of have a weird. Like, they'll be, like, Highway Farty Farty Far. which is weird. It's not country.

It's not southern. It's like a very weird thing. It's like suggesting the Minnesota accent. Kind of, but almost like a little more country-fied. Right. Like my dad would always, he wouldn't say wash, he'd be like warsh. Warsh. Interesting.

What is that? Like, I don't know. What is that? The stretch from Missouri to Kansas to Colorado was like four different worlds. And they don't really, they don't really amount to anything, which is weird. You know what I mean? Like, growing up in Colorado, we were just like, I guess we don't have an accent. But the way you would test, the way you would test if someone, how someone was politically aligned is if they said Colorado, they were blue.

If they said Colorado, they were red. Colorado. Colorado. Whoa. But I don't think Missouri has that, right? No, Missouri. Missouri. Missouri.

Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. I love Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. Missouri. I do think on Long Island where I'm from the stronger, the Long Island accent, the

Long Island accent, that's how you know. It's drama. Oh my God, really? What part of Long Island are you from? Suffolk County. So like this, like... Down? Yeah, like down on the south shore and like the middle of it.

So part of me wants to say South Central, Long Island, but it doesn't sound right. I grew up like, like, right around where the Fire Island fairies are. Oh, wow. And I used to work like in the, um, in the little clam shack when people would get on the fairies to go. Oh my God. That's like a coming of age film. It basically was.

I'm thinking about it. I made clam stricks in the clam shack. I sold the fish sticks and I would mop the floors. Literally. And it was the summer that changed my life. And I literally was hooking up with my boss. Oh! Write the movie now.

I actually do have to. It actually is something I have written down. Clam stripped. Clam stripped. Ew. Exactly. Exactly. That's the feeling you want.

You know what's funny though? It's like you think about those times. Like I want people to feel fried. When they watch this. You think about those times and they are the hardest narratives to like to sift through because it's still confusing to think about yourself as a teenager, as a late teenager. It's like the permanence you get on those situations doesn't come until years later. And then it's hard to put it into your work.

Yeah. You know, it's like hard to know what was right, what was wrong, what I was feeling. Oh. It takes a very long time of that specific age group where it was a time. time where you think you knew it all, you thought you were older than you were. Yeah. You know? It's kind of scary to think back to like high school times. I used to think I was so invincible. Yeah. I would go places I shouldn't have gone at hours. I shouldn't be out of my house. Crazy. Getting cars with people I shouldn't be getting in cars with. Oh no. The way I used to drive

in high school. I was like, you really thought you couldn't break a bone. No, for real. It was crazy times. I had a funny high school experience too. I was very shy and nerdy because I was like new to my public school freshman year and I had braces and so I was like new and weird and like insecure and like kind of overweight like I just like didn't really feel so open to socializing. You weren't ready to meet everyone. I wasn't ready for the meet and greet of like high school life. But then, you know, it's like of course this always happens. I got my braces off around like sophomore year and then I met like the skater boy like click and it was just like I became a bad kid. Yeah. Out of nowhere.

Like I was very quiet. Never really had great grades because I was really ADHD. But like, boom, braces off. And I was like, I'm skipping school and I'm smoking weed and I'm smoking sigs. And I'm stealing bottles from Target. And I'm stealing bottles from Target. I went like sicko mode, like fast. Braces off.

And then. And it was on. And it was on for how long? Until now. Most of my life, to be honest. Bitches hate you. Bitches, I don't know. Why am I still laughing at?

bitches hate me. Bitches do. They're bitches. What's to like? Because they're bitches. Oh wait. I had a thought starter. So you get so gay off that tequila.

But is that is that the liquor that gets you the most gay? Tequila. Probably. That's the most like, I've had my craziest most twacked out blacked out nights. Tequila. Tequila. If you want to keep it a safe night that's family fun for everyone, wine and beer. For me, it never stays safe and fun.

If there's alcohol, I'm like not like the, like, I can have like a drink or two at dinner. No, it's either one, it's either none or six. It will, yeah. Yeah. That's my problem. But I, I've, I've, I've been in a party environment with you briefly, and I'm like, and you were just so, you were so chic and lovely. I thought so, what? Which one?

It was, it was, it was Hollywood. Oh, well, I had to perform, but afterwards it got crazy. Okay. You got so gay off that tequila. It got Halloweeny weird. It got weird. I, yeah, Halloween is weird. Halloween is weird, though.

I get so gay off that gin. I was going to say gin is what fucks me up the most. Really? I only, I really only drink gin in like a cocktail. I'm trying not to drink like a lot lately. Yes. But gin is like a, gin feels so fancy. It's like a fancy cocktail drink. If you're getting drunk off gin, yeah, that's like an old British man vibe.

Okay, but here's the thing. So the way it was introduced to me on Long Island where I was trash, my mom said to me one day, she goes, you know, gin is sin. And I was like, okay. And we were religious. It was a bar, but it sells it to me. Well, she kind of didn't know, but she did sell it to me. So then, by the way, I go to all of my friends and I'm like, yo, maybe you. maybe this weekend, maybe it's gin.

And my friends go, absolutely we're going to do a gin bucket. So have you experienced the gin bucket? You get one of those fucking industrial bins. With the holes in the handle. With the ropes on the thing. Like jungle juice. Literally, literally. So a whole fucking handle of probably the cheapest shit ever.

Like club soda, sprite, cut up lemons and limes, throw it in there. You get a turkey baster based into the mouth. Into the mouth. That is like... You'll be running around grabbing each other's butts. We were probably 16, 17. I was going to say that's like children doing that is so funny. It's absurd.

Same shit that we would like four different flavors of burnets. Like one thing. And it's like you children. Yeah. You children. Really scary to think about now. With your turkey basters. Really scary.

Just like in someone's backyard full. Like the one parent that would be like, yeah, let them do what they want to do. just terrifying cracked. Always. At least we know where they are. Always. You wouldn't believe the color of some of the vomits I've seen like because of people drinking like like, like, um, like aaterade. Like, you know, like, what's, what's haterate again? It's just like red gatorade and like you'd put, we would go to the football games and put like a ton of vodka in like a blue or red gatorade

bottle and then it would get out of hand. And so like there's Kevin throwing up blue. Oh my god. Just blue. And you think no one knows either. They're like, they probably think he has the flu. Teachers are watching you like fall all over. This is a crazy virus this boy has is blue. Like you're giving yourself time this summer to like do that, I hope. To party?

To party. I don't want to. You have to be on your shit. I don't like partying really. I'm like kind of a hard buddy. Are you still a stoner? Um, sometimes. If it's like a, some weed is bio-medically engineered to make you go psychotic.

and I am scared. No, it's chronic. It's hard to play roulette with like which kind is fine. And everyone's like, oh, it's the satire or it's this one. It's like you're more stoner-friend always loves to be like, no, like this one, I swear it'll be fine. And then you smoke and you're like, I can't move. I need to eject from the music industry now.

No, yeah. Because everyone thinks I'm weird and I think I need to delete my Twitter today. No, the existential places you go. When you smoke this, I'll say it again, chronic. And they sell it on the streets in New York and L.A. Now that weed is everywhere, what you can get, because it's like rolled in Keefe and stuff like that and like infused. It's not normal. It's not normal.

There's like a spiral of like wax like coating and they, it's like, it's like crazy. It's like Willy Wonka weed. It's Willie Wonka weed and it turns you into a big fucking blueberry and you get really scared. Yeah, you're violating. You become, yes. And then you see like umpalumpa sing a song and they roll you out and you get really scared. That's like what every time I spoke weed that happens every time. The whole fantasy.

I need to ask you about. I get stuck in the chocolate river tube. Period. Because I've been thinking about this since you've put it into words in this way. Because everyone's like, oh, anxiety, blah, blah. But you've talked about, I've been feeling this a little too much. Even this morning, we're like, I didn't really, I just had a nice chill night last night. But I wake up, I wake up going, oh, my God.

Yeah. I'm the biggest piece of shit in the world. Yeah. Like, why do people put up with me? I'm like, where is this all coming from? I think it's got to be some chemical imbalance. Your brain is playing tricks on you. It's not real.

So is that knowledge enough for you to be like, okay, let's keep it moving? Sometimes. I can talk myself down about it a lot. And my favorite thing, which is hard though because it's like everyone's so different. My favorite thing to like use is like when I see someone who's like being drunk and crazy at a party, I'm never like horribly offended. I'm just like, oh, like they're lit. Exactly. I'm never like, oh my God.

Like it's like, so I feel like when I'm doing that, unless you're being like insane or it's like a medical emergency. No one's really No one's experiencing it the way you think they are Everyone's thinking about themselves Everyone's thinking about themselves Everyone's thinking about their own shit Everyone wants to like have their conversation No one's

And like maybe you would know I one person big deal But I think that Thinking about how you, like if someone really drunk came up to you and they were like Oh my God hey like I'm like so drunk right now You wouldn't be like ew Like you know what I mean so it's like Or even if you like are just like

You know yapping it's like everyone loves it Everyone loves that. Yeah. And the thing is the thing about the anxiety is the reason why I think, like, you are ruminating is because you're not sure exactly if you have, if should, you should be embarrassed about something. And that should be an indicator that, oh, probably no one else remembers either. Yeah.

We were all the same thing. We all have this. And a huge element of this anxiety is the lack of knowledge. And if you're not a noxious person, you're not doing anything noxious. Yeah. Exactly. But we went to the Tonys two nights ago and the. after parties went crazy.

Oh my god, that sounds so lit. It was really like in the Tony's people, like everyone in that community is kind of the best vibe because they're truly working hard eight times a week and then all supporting each other. And then we're also so thoroughly entertained by the end of the evening because the performances are genuinely, you know,

amazing people that the vibe is very high and you can tell that because they're not able to party because they're working so hard and they have to, you know, take care of themselves that they get the opportunity to go off and people go off. It's like three drinks and they're like. Yeah, I was out until five.

Love. It was crazy. Like people, like there are some sinners among them. Oh, there's a lot of sin. Oh my God. I was drinking gin too. Really? Yes, which means if I was having a conversation with you.

Bottoms up and the devil laughs. What are you talking about? The monster energy camera. She's like, look, six, six, six. Bottoms up and the devil laughs. I do remember her. She's crazy. The devil's drink.

The bottoms up with the devil laughs. I'm like, I'm never going to drink anything ever again. Not even water. You're scaring me, lady. I would like a case of that. Yeah. Joanie Mitchell. Flip it around Wicked Waze.

She was saying that. Wait, that kind of is what that was. Exactly. Look at Wills up in the devil laughs. I was going to say if you turn dollar sign in a circle upside down, dollar sign in a circle. It's dollar sign backwards in a circle upside down. Upside down. They didn't think about that one.

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Listen to Discraseland on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think it's time. I'd be time for I don't think so, honey. This is the segment that we do each and every time out or we rip into something in pop culture or around it. I have decided something is actually important to me and I need to speak on it. This is my platform. This is my platform to do that.

I can't wait. Here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so many his time starts now. I don't think so many spelling things right. It's a form of expression when I say in a text to my sister, I am emotional and spelled like this, E-M-O-S-H-U-N-A-L. And then the phone has the audacity to try to,

I meant what I said when I typed it out, way that I typed it out. I meant what I said, just like Slater said earlier. Okay. And for me, it's expression. Think about this. Freak a leak. You remember that song? Not a word is spelled wrong. Not freak, not leak. And that is important. Worst girl in America, there's a dollar sign in there, baby. Don't describe this album and say, wow, did you listen to this without the dollar sign. But also do what you want because, again, that would be the right spelling and I give you the for him to be incorrect. I am never making a mistake when I spell a word,

and I say this as someone who placed sixth place, yes, sixth place in my sixth grade spelling bee, which is pretty good. So I know my shit, I'm doing it on purpose. None of that red little squiggle. I don't think so honey that I don't think so honey what I'm trying to spell and say. And that's one minute.

There we go. Fantastic. You really like, I just feel like the way that the girls are like, their song titles now, the word Slater, no, there's three wise. You freed us. Wake it up. Free, be free. And all caps icon.

That's my artist mission statement. Be free. Period. I used to be a spelling square. Because spelling is for squares. And now I'm like, wait a minute. What am I upholding? The grammar and my music is terrible.

The what? The grammar and my music is terrible. Spelling and grammar like, lose it. Lose it. Yeah, but I bet you did at one point have a good grasp. Like you you break the first. the form. Like, in school.

I was, you know, it's funny. I had, like, I had a GPA so low. It would probably shock both of you. How was? 1.5. Yes. The lowest you could get and still walk. And then I went to college on academic probation because University of Missouri,

no offense was so desperate for people's tuition, no offense. Oh my God. They wanted to take my student debt, you know, money. And then I flunked out. They were like, your grades are so bad, but we'll see. We'll see about you for a year. Just come pay. We just want as an experiment.

Come to come to come. Some loans, but even though it's not looking so good for you. And I went to college for a year and then I failed out because I just, I, but I was always really good at English. Yeah. And really good with, like, choir and art and all of that. But what's better, what's better about being good in English is not the spelling. No, yeah. It's about the way you interpret.

Feeling. The feeling. Well, literally, and I remember being like this, like, there are people that, like, I remember walking around. And also the other crazy reveal is that later you find out that just, a shit ton of people had dyslexia. You know what I mean? They just learn differently than the way. Like I remember reading in class.

Like we would all like, okay, today we're reading Pride and Prejudice or whatever the fuck. And now we're going to take turns reading the parts. And people would have to. And watching people struggle, you realize now it's just like it's not all easy for everyone. And I just wish there could have been more of an emphasis on just be really good at what you're really good at. Yeah. Like, that's, if I run the department of ed, I'm like, let people pick five things they want to do and go ham on that. Yeah.

And because there's no reason for me to have been in math class. Yeah. Notice what children are like excelling at. Right. And be like, oh, you're really good at this thing. I was so bad at math. And I would have teachers who would get so frustrated because they'd be like, we read your essay and you're standardized testing. Like, you are smart.

And I'd be like, really? But I resent that, though. But they would be like, you're so smart. Like, why can't you just do your homework? I'm like, I don't know, because I don't give a fuck about chemistry. Yeah. Or biology or like math, anything math. Chemistry is so made up.

I would get, like, caught cheating on my tests. What was your style of cheating? So I was so bad at school that they would, I would always, like, miss school, skip. So I'd always take my test at, like, a different day or something. And they, like, put me in a room and, like, to, like, take my test on, like, a different day than everybody else. Because I, like, would have missed school that day. Sure. And then I would have like a paper of answers from like a friend who took the test.

And one time my teacher caught me and he was like, I'm going to pretend I didn't see that because I do not want to see you my class next year. And I was like, thank you. That's interesting. God works a mysterious way. He was like, I was like, I never want to see you again so you're going to pass. And I was like, right. That is a way to game the system. Totally.

Yeah. Just so bad in class that people are like, get out. Passer. God bless him. Like I got what I want. Yeah. Good for you. Good for you.

Yeah. I've got something. You got something today? Okay. So this, no, I have my own little phone, my own little device. Okay, well, this is the moment we've all been waiting for.

This is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey, his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, refrigerators aren't magnetic anymore. Hey, what happened to a little clutter? What happened to a little wabi-sabi? Because guess what? You're wiping out an entire fucking industry

of magnets, letters, little things where you can put. Here's a question. What do you do with? A loose printed photograph. I guess you have to frame every single one of them now and find the space to prop them up. No, they were meant to be put on fridges.

And now that the metals are alloys that contain nickel and all this other non-magnetic stuff, it used to just be a slab of iron, but now they're putting all this fingerprint-proofing stuff on it. It's for the sake of sleekness and cleanliness. I want a little bit of mess. I want my kitchen to be a little shitty. But you know what I mean?

I want things on the door. Because otherwise it's just a thing that's at my eye line that's blank. I need some visual interest in my life. And that's one minute. A refrigerator should be like Tumblr. Yes. A reflection of the soul. Yes.

Because then it's just like... My L.A. fridge really is. The way that you're saying that, I'm like, you know what? I've curated some good magnets. I've like Betty Page magnets and like Vintage Budweiser. It should have pictures of people you love. Yes. Notes from your mom.

Yes. No, the refrigerator is an opportunity. It's the thing you see, like, kind of most often in the slideshow of your day. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it should have things that make you feel joy or comfort, and it's like, or it should like, you write a little intention, you put it right at your eye line. It's a huge missed opportunity.

I don't know why this is the shift in the trend. I say we go back to it, literally, like. It's because millennial gray took over the world. Yeah, you know, and there is some. sort of like, I think it's like an over Marie condoization of... Don't bring her into this. But just like it... You are supposed to...

Here's the thing. Shit that goes on the refrigerator in that way, that doesn't belong anywhere else. Exactly. Like it's like, you know, photographic chotchkes and like, you know, a drawing that like your little cousin made. So lovely. It deserves a place, but I don't know if I'm framing all of that. No, you're not.

You know what I mean? Like, I see, like, this sounds like... like a dream this LA fridge. It is. And what's inside it is a dream as well. What's in the fridge? Lots of leftovers. Yeah.

Cottage cheese. I like... Big thing of cottage cheese. I like cottage cheese. I love like protein. I eat a lot of protein. There's like chicken. I have like,

I love like muscle bro food. So I have like a lot of like whole food shit. I love like my health. I love my LA like health air wand bullshit. Are you up in the gym lifting? Yeah. I love it. I do a lot of Pilates and I love hot Pilates.

Nice. Heated Pilates. Okay. We got to try this. Do you eat Boykibble? What is boy? Is that like, oh, the ground beef on rice? Grab me.

Grab me on rice. Sometimes. Sometimes. I fucking love Boykibble. Sometimes, but I think it's like such a, it's like, I don't know. Sometimes you've got to like hit the macro and you got to like, you got to do. I love like a chicken. I love rotissory chicken.

I got a rotissory chicken in my fridge a lot. I mean, it's, first of all, it tastes the best. Yeah. I just go and rip it up with my hands. Oh, yeah. Nasty. I had a college show in Iowa and I have like, grilled chicken breast on my writer.

And everyone jokes it. It's like when a dog has diarrhea, that's like their meal, they're like, go eat your diarrhea dog meal. But they had a full rotisserie chicken. These like sweet little college students brought a rotisserie chicken. And one of them came in to meet me. I know I feel so bad. My hands are like, what did I be eating the rotisserie?

That's perfect. And they're like, hey. No fork, no knife. I'm like, hey, thanks for having me. They're like, we could have gotten you. They're like, we're really big fans. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah.

Grease formation. Grice. Crank it. Crank it. Literally, that is the definition of cranking it, pre-show. It is. Cranking rotisserie chicken. And we got crunk, and I was full of protein.

Yeah, good. You get so full off that rotisserie. Full off that boy kibble. Full off that boy kibble. You need to write like a fridge song. You know what I mean? A jingle. A jingle.

No, not jingle. No, I'm saying like a full. on like screaming about what the fuck is in your freezer. What's in my freezer? Yeah. Oh. So what's in my freezer is different from what's in the fridge. What's in your freezer?

I'm kidding. Dama reveal. Dommer reveal. Okay. Wait, wait. The one thing too is I want to say PSA. You can't put everything in the crisper. No, no, no, no.

So Melissa put, we all know this. Are you talking about like an air fryer? The air fire? No, no. Like the air fire. I was like, I'm in my hot take my VM anti air fryer. What?

Yeah. Why? Because ease of use? Ease of use, convenience is killing America. Everyone needs to be more Anthony Bordanian about the way they move through life. Bordane would have hated it. Bordane would have never put shit in an air friar. No, you're so right.

And it's just like, you know, I could do a microwave. But I draw the line at another giant bulkier plants that sits on the counter. And like, does it need to be so crispy? Was it crispy? Was it really that crispy? If I can have nuggets in 15 minutes Yeah I'll overlook all of this

I love nuggets That's fair That's fair I go crazy for nuggets In the damn oven I guess but Ovens Have done nothing but support you

Yeah And been shoe storage Or whatever the fuck Like come on Shoe storage Are you SJP herself Shoe storage Shoe storage

I mean Not too much This is something thing. No, you have something else prepared. What, I forgot it. I feel like should I do... Go on air fryer. Okay, wait. We're putting you on the clock. Wait, did you have it? I don't think so honey that you already prepared or you forgot it. I thought I was going to wing it and now I'm like, it's like when someone asks you a favorite song

you're like, I don't know any music. No, exactly. Exactly. Do this one. Do the air fryer. This is Slaters, I don't think so many of your time starts now. I think that airfriars are a spiritually corrupt appliance for the kitchen. They're bulky. They're unnecessary. I think convenience is becoming such an issue in America. Everybody wants everything to be so convenient. Go walk down the street. Go find some chicken from like a food truck. Go walk into like a mom and pop restaurant. Or make a damn chicken nugget yourself. I'm like talking to you. I know. I just think that it's so I feel like I see every day there's more gadgets that just clutter up your kitchen. It's so unnecessary. 30 seconds. There's like you don't need like an avocado cutter. You don't need an air fry or just

like make your food. Oh my God. Actually you might need that. Shit. No, I'm kidding. But it's just I hate convenient things just like make a meal and like make it with your hands and like use your oven and use your stove. Get on the cast iron skillet. Make food the way that we've been making food for years. We don't need air friars. And you know what? I think it does weird shit to our food. I think that it adds a chemical.

I think there's like a layer. There's some kind of resin in there that's like getting baked into your your nuggets. Resin. Get the resin out. Get the air friar out of the kitchen. Yes. Can air fryer conspiracy theories? Wow. Yeah, because how do you explain?

Somehow we really all bought in as a culture, right? This giant fucking thing. Sure, don't you have the counter space? No, but I'll plug it in anyway. Oh, sorry, Toaster. You're going in the cabinet for this thing with a drawer and a handle? I don't understand. Also, they will explode randomly.

No. Have you ever seen someone being like, yeah, my house burned down, a ring camera, our air fire exploded. It's like, oh, awesome. Good to know that those can just randomly See, that's a story about forgetting to unplug. You watch out. I guess I will.

Well, here's the thing. I have one and I, you know what else is on my cabinet? I mean, my counter. An ice machine? Like, I have an ice machine on the counter separate from the... That could be fair if you don't have... Like, I don't have an ice maker in my freezer. Yeah, but I bet you're a fan of the cube tray.

I am. Yeah, I knew it. I like when the ice cube tastes a little weird. Yeah, like what the fuck is this? Is that something that's... It means a tree. Yeah. They give you home.

When ice tastes like ice. Yeah. The butt ice. That's what they call it. What's butt ice? Who called it that? Someone called it butt ice on the show. But it's just, it's like that perfectly like, do smooth.

Oh yeah, like a cube. Or not, it's not a cube. It's like a, like a crescent. Like a little, like a croissant, you said? A crescent. A crescent. Or a croissant. Which is similar shape.

Similar shape. Who said butt ice? Is that why a croissant is named a croissant? I think so. Is that. Is that French for Crescent? I love a croissant. Is that French for Crescent?

Is that French for Crescent? That's the Missouri. I love, oh my God. You know like Brad Pitt and Inglorious Bastros when he's like, Gratzy? Yeah. Because like, you know, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not going to like offend them by like trying to speak French or Italian. Yeah.

Gratia. Gratia. Gratier. Giorno. Oh, charming. See, but me at the end of any of our trips to, um, Italy, I was so sad to not be able to say, Buenos Aires anymore.

Buona Cera is a good one. And also, um, in Thailand. Ca. Ka. Capcomca. What does that mean? It means, thank you.

Oh, Cupcum Ka. That just made me think of bridesmaids. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the blue. And she like, clap. She's like, Kavikov.

Parviva and. Parviva and la Casa. Classic. That is. That's a hungover movie. That is the best. Yeah. My sister and me love that movie.

The one, the only. Like the niche quotes from me like, oh shit, that's fresh. I was saying that. Oh, that is fresh. Yeah. Underrated, I climbed him like a tree. Oh, my God. So good.

I broke it in half. Do you understand what I'm saying? I broke it in half. Something on the plane. Oh, you know what I always say? The vocal stint for us, you like it. It's sweet. You like it, it's sweet.

You like it, sweet. I would say that the, she knows the DJ is like almost part inspired by, oh, you know the owner. You do. Because that's me. I'm like that girl. I'm like the friend where I'm like, you know.

Clocking every name drop. You're like a uppity friend that is like, you know, knows the owner. I'm like off a perk and I'm being like, oh, you know. Oh. Off a perk. Oh, yeah. I'm not. I don't do that.

But like I don't want kids to be like, oh, I want to do. Oh, my God. You know. Once again, I feel like my album does the opposite. My album is like, this is really, it's like, this is gross and bad. Like, old technology video, I'm like, this isn't cool guys. Like, this is like... Totally.

You know? It's like the way that, like, Lynch makes, like, parts of Los Angeles feel, like, terrifying. Yeah. And it makes you never want to go. Tweet. Countess Lowand said, don't be all uncool. I would say be uncool. Be uncool.

Big. That's a hot take, but I fully agree. Be uncool. There's nothing cooler than being uncool. Everyone cool is always, like, kind of uncool. Yeah. And kind of nerdy and kind of like passionate about something and they're kind of uncool. Yeah.

Well I feel like later. No one that's like you think is cool is actually cool. You talk to like a cool person who like you're like, oh that person's so cool. They're not so cool. They're not going to make you laugh and they're probably kind of mean. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Is that your experience in the viz? Kind of. Yeah. Well trust me. Because people are so, I feel like I've been like the tacky artists people are too cool for a lot of times. So now with everything happening, I'm like experiencing things and like you really like, you really like, talk with or like get to know people and I'm like, you're like a bad hang.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes. Several times again and again. Right? Because the cool thing at this point has been like kind of co-opted by like, oh, like, like cool dudes are really mean. Cool dudes are really mean.

But like I get it. That's their thing. Yeah. But like little old me is not, I'm not sitting through that. No. Me from a, me from 10 years ago would. Like, oh, he's being mean to me. me from Turner's be like please please please

me now speak to me like Oh Oh no I'm iconic sub Yeah True

You're you're a You're a You're a switch Aren't you What does that mean Dom and sub No you're Dom What?

You're a Dom For sure Maybe I'm just I'm just miserable No I'm neither You're neither

Yeah No but you're See, but like I want to say like you're cool. You know what I mean? Thank you. But not in the way that you're talking about. I don't feel cool. Keep feeling uncool.

Because everything you're feeling and doing is working for you. I look in the mirror and I'm like shaking. I'm like, okay. We're so fucking happy that you came. Thank you for having me. Unbelievable. It's now won the album of the year. Now you know it's gone too far.

One album of the year at Lost Coulch. Goes to like the album of the year though. Thank you. You know what I mean? That is so, thank you for one nominating me. I'm back into my speech. I'm like, thank you for nominating me. And I just can't.

That's the first thing I've ever won. I've never won an award. What? Wow. Yeah. We're sending you a trophy. We're sending you a trophy. Even though West Elm did discontinue the door stops that we used to make into trophies.

That you would love that, DIY. Get them on the phone. Yeah. We're getting him on the phone. Someone email. We actually do know someone that, you know who works there, Thomas Gibbons. Oh yeah. And he was like, actually like, we should do something.

And I was like, well, I mean, they make a doorstop again because we need it for the centerpiece of our award show. You guys should just like get one and like 3D printed or something. But then it wouldn't be as heavy. Yeah, the weight is crucial. So crucial. People are like, people like put it down at the show. They're like, this is a lot. Yeah, that actually was our entire

goal. We wanted it to be the heaviest award in history. You should just get like a 30 pound kettleball. Here you go. Perfect. Next time you're here, we're going to find out what's in your freezer. Until then, this has been Slater on Las Colch. We end every episode with the song. He want to fuck Slater, Richard, we should be. Later. Get to my hotel and suck them off in the elevator.

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