Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Funky!" (w/ Nikki Glaser)

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

Las Culturistas is proud to say it's the podcast that introduces poppers to our guest on this god damn behemoth of an episode, Nikki Glaser!!! The one and only. Listen, to get into the ins and outs of anal sex and also partake in a full Swiftie convention? We hope that's why you come to Las Cultch! That bullshit, how self-care actually *should* be trendy, the impact of Conan O'Brien on Nikki as a comedian, meeting your heroes and keeping your faculties (or not!) while doing it, and spending money on porn. Also, the following questions: Why the fuck aren't Little Mix big in America? Do we need reboots of Dan Brown culture? Can you be hot and also what is known as a "chuckle fucker"? Did you guys want this episode sweet and slow or funky? Hope it's the latter! Listen to The Nikki Glaser Podcast and get tickets now to see her on her One Night With Nikki Glaser tour! Shit! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Las Culturistas. Ding Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. How's it going, girl? You know what I hoped would have worked out by the time we were going to record? That I was going to be all caught up on Mare of East Town. So the only, so you watched four out of the five episodes? And I'm in the middle of,

smack dab in the middle of episode five, Illusions, which has the internet abuzz in the twist don't go on the internet don't go on the internet because it will be ruined for the girl and what happens in the last 10 minutes is as they say peak tv okay you know how much i love a twist because i have i have said on record that wreck it ralph is one of the best movies in film history because of the twist in that movie and you never see it coming. No, wait. You might have to educate a girl.

What's the twist in Wreck-It Ralph? So, okay. And spoiler alert. Let's just say spoiler alert because you know the readers, they come for us. If the readers have not seen Wreck-It Ralph, you owe it to yourself to see it.

Run, don't walk. Fun for the whole family. Run, don't walk. This is basically whole family. Run, don't walk. This is basically the gist of it. So it takes place at this arcade, right? And all the worlds are different arcade, you know, screens, monitors, whatever. Absolutely.

So then the entire sort of world building, the world building in the movie, everyone keeps referencing this, oh gosh, let me look this up. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Oh, he has to look, wait, no, we're not putting this up. No, no, no, no, on hold on hold on oh he has to look wait no we're not no no no no no no no the movie that he's so proud of no no no why it's just i don't think there's a twist in wreck it ralph i think there is a situation that is creative i

think the twist is maybe all the video game characters know each no no no that's not the twist okay here we're back okay we're back we but there's going to be no quotes. In the whole first two acts, I would say, they reference going turbo, which means going rogue in your own video game and then demanding to be in another video game

so that you sort of like hack the video. So turbo was the most popular racing game in the 80s. Then another racing game came in the 90s and Turbo got jealous. And so then Turbo invades the 90s video game and breaks it. And then is never seen again.

And you're like, you can't go Turbo. You can't hop video games. Right. So then you find out in Sarah Silverman's world, Sugar Rush, it's a candy-based video games. Right. So then you find out in Sarah Silverman's world, Sugar Rush, it's a candy-based video game, and the ruler of that world is King Candy, and King Candy hates Vanellope,

calls her a glitch, says, you know, you can't race, you can't race, you can't race. Turns out, Vanellope, Sarah Silverman's character,

was the queen of Sugar Rush land, and King Candy is actually Turbo. And Turbo invaded the game long ago. And it's the way that the twist is revealed, the execution of it. I mean, it's Alan Tudyk giving you an amazing Disney. It's Alan Tudyk's first Disney villain performance. Voice acting king, we should say.

Voice acting king and true, true dime, I must say. Good looking man. 10 out of 10 wood 10 out of 10 wood yes and he's not one that gets talked about often as we don't we don't talk about alan tudyk you know they talk about chris evans they talk about chris pine they talk about all the chris's and they don't talk about alan tudyk and it's actually it's rule of culture number 56 they don't talk about alan tudyk and smashing alan tudyk they don't and look at if you don't if you're unclear on what he looks like everyone go look at a picture and then try not to touch your cock or whatever you got going on down there okay come on but i just want to say so for everyone at home that sort of was following that long

twist of wrecking ralph you know that it's a lot simpler in Marriott of Easttown. I got to tell you, you know how you are like sort of famously always at odds with neighbors and people that live around you? So I can now join the fray. Oh, no. I have a real situation on my hands. You've been in this building. You've been in this apartment for a while now. I've been in this building for a while now.

Haven't had any problems now i have the person who's moved above me blasting at i'm not even kidding you 2 30 in the morning no only one song only one song ariana grande pov i love to see me from your point of view that and we love that song we love ari and we congratulate her on her wedding congrats but i don't want to hear this song one more fucking time i'm going up there i swear to christ it's it's at that point what are you gonna say let's try it out on me okay i'll do it ready hi it's what do you it's three in the morning i live downstairs i love this song too i can't hear it again and it's really literally almost three in the morning and i'm so sorry that this is gonna have to be my energy but like it's you could it's so

loud you're so right i'm so sorry i'm gonna i'm gonna keep it down what's your name what's your name uh kyle i love your wait no you're matt rogers i love your podcast uh no um no that's not me you're uh you're thinking of Bowen Yang he's a bitch no I'm going on Dumois right now and I'm DMing them that you were a fucking bitch to me not Dumois

we have to announce something Matt Rogers is Dumois famous who cares he has been cited I was spotted walking with an iced coffee there's no better way to be spotted we spotted Matt Rogers walking with an iced coffee across from Franklin. Honey, guess who's praying to accurately be spotted on Demois instead of someone saying, Oh, I saw an Asian guy with glasses walking around Madison Square Park.

I have not set foot in that park in two years. How many times have they been wrong about it being you? I would say, oh, let's say it's been five times four out of the five times they've been wrong. Oh, that doesn't feel good. It's not good. And then I even like, I didn't even tag them. There are some Caroline Calloway shit and they're looking through their

indirects and being like, oh, this person just talked about Jim Watt, did not tag them. And then they reached out to me and said, oh my God, it's not you. And I go, no, it usually isn't. And I was like, it's not your your fault it's just none of these things are verifiable and then it's just so funny that in demois fucking bio they say none of what we post is ever based in fact right i'm not even that's not i'm not even just pair i'm not even yeah it's that that is exactly what they say and and yet it's like they kind of fancy themselves a news outlet well it's a new

kind of tabloid essentially that's what it is it's a tablet because any old person can say hey i heard this saw this did this was this i mean and they're like you said so you got to take it with a grain of ass grain of ass like everything i god bless them for kind of breaking the army hammer thing but i don't know oh well you know that's it that's a tragic one and you know i met army hammer didn't seem i and i this is what this is what i always say now about army you didn't seem like a cannibal didn't seem like what does that mean some people you meet and you're like i don't know about them they might be a cannibal couldn't have smelled less like a cannibal to me it's all in the smell but you know who you know who is

eating right now you know who's eating this week in terms of like fucking getting getting everything that she fucking deserves and needs the host of the mtv movie and tv awards unscripted thank you very fucking much that happened this week dumois is never gonna fuck this up. They're gonna know exactly who this is when they see her on the street. Oh, you're not gonna mistake her for someone else?

No, she's been fucking killing it in the Zoom so far. Fucking, like, you should see what's going on. We had a discussion beforehand of the sort of applying makeup without even really thinking

about it thing. She can, she can, she can apply in her waterline without a mirror. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Stunning. The host of the daily podcast,

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starting July 30thth going all the way through january baby that's about a half a year for all you math freaks out there look we we can say one of my favorite stand-ups oh one of my favorites also did you know this do you remember when we went to nikki and sarah when we went to nikki and sarah live we went to a taping of Nikki and Sarah Live. Get this. I think it was a decade ago. 2010, 2011, 2012. Wow. It was- 13, 13, 13, 13.

Okay, so we're nearing the 10-year anniversary. We're nearing the 10-year anniversary. Wow. But that was like a cool moment. I was like, oh my God, we're at this like dually co-hosted women's, like a female co-hosted way to night show. We loved it.

In the old studio of TRL, you couldn't have told us. It was the moment of the year and she's like sort of reminiscing right now she's rekindling the memories can I talk you may talk after this everyone please welcome to your ears

Nikki Glaser you guys oh my god I have so many people to thank seriously I feel honored so honored we were there we were there that you went there yeah that was really nice that all those things you just said but the fact that you guys were in the crowd for a nikki and sarah live taping makes me just feel so good it makes me feel so cool because you guys are so fucking funny and like that you would

have been into me when you were like younger and and excited by all of that just as much as I was, because I was dying at the fact that I was in the TRL studio and do this dream and like, not really knowing what I was doing, but that just means a lot to me. And I, I have, Oh God,

you guys are so, so fun and funny. And that was such a joy to listen to your conversation. I have so much to like talk about within that stuff. Armie Hammer, by the way, so much more than just a alleged cannibal. Have you guys heard about his, the rape? Like, have you heard the girl?

The thing is like, it's funny because everyone was joking about it, like LOL cannibalism. And then you heard the real tea and it was just like, oh wait. Whenever that comes up, I love to clarify and be like, we can go, ha ha, he eats humans.

But he raped a girl that he had convinced was his girlfriend she had met his mom he had gone to texas to me his mom read the vanity fair article about him if you really want to feel like you like read a book and like learn something that'll help you in life because this knowledge i'm letting people know army hammer is not like a punchline about like because I just missed the cannibal stuff I honestly thought it was like funny because I was like I don't know it's kind of I could see saying some really fucked up things when I'm horny that I don't really want to do or like you know all the time and then

you saw the branding and you're like all the time all the time like honestly can you imagine if the things you said or like and you can get horny enough guys text dumb stuff and I don't kink shame. So if you like to fantasize about eating body parts, but you don't do it, I don't care.

Like who cares? I could be into it. I could probably love a guy and be like, yeah, you can tell me you're going to eat me. Yeah. Eat me up. Also.

It's just like, I don't know about you guys, but sometimes like I'll like after I sexed or whatever, I'll look back at what I said. And are you guys just always like, oh my God. Yeah. Or sometimes like right after you watch porn and you think about what you've

seen, you're like, wow, that's like a base level of sexuality and humanity that I may never want to return to, but no, I will. Yes.

And you will, you will be back. I started doing this thing where I, I, I used to send myself, it was so hard for me to find the kind of porn I liked and it would always find like I was just so often I would to find the kind of porn I liked and it would always find, like I was just,

so often I would just stop masturbating because I'm like, there's nothing that will do it. And then I'd find this specific thing and I'd send it to myself. So I had an email chain

to myself after, if it made me calm, I would like send it to myself. And I don't do that much anymore because I've gotten, it's become easier because I've become kind of dependent on porn.

I found, I found a way to make porn work for me in a very efficient way. It still takes me about 40 minutes, but I'm like a prescribed subscribe member. I spend like a hundred bucks a month on porn. Oh, me too.

Oh, same. Good. Okay, good. No, you're not alone. I subscribe to Sean Cody, Cocky Boys, Gay Hoopla. I'm on like four people's only fans. Yeah, I'm spending dollars on my porn now. I invested myself.

And I feel good about it, but I wonder sometimes if that is overindulging or is that becoming an addiction? When do I have to go, let me cut back because maybe it'll make me want real people. Is that why I'm single? But I gotta be honest, I was hooking up recently pretty frequently,

and I missed my dungeon girls. I was like, I gotta go visit the girls at the dungeon to make sure. I gotta refill their water bowls. I felt like I was like, girls, to go visit the girls at the dungeon. Make sure I got to refill their water bowls. Like I felt like I was like, girls, I left because I watched some weird porn, like kind of you know, like BDSM stuff. And I felt like, God, I kind of miss mastermind to that stuff.

My ladies. Yeah, your girls. My girls that are just like, you know, pushing themselves to the limit and training really hard to be like the best slut they can be. Like that's kind of my genre as like a girl. It's the porn versionbians they can be like that's kind of my genre is like a girl it's the porn version of me it's like I like gangbangs because it's a girl that's just like juggling

so much and you're like how does she do all that I'm putting my best foot forward in an industry that they said I couldn't make it yes it just is like how does how does she do all that like it I really do feel like i'm in a gangbang

in show business sometimes with like the podcasting and like the the the i have to prepare for this monologue i'm about to give on this show yeah also i have to do fallon like yeah like don't forget it's a gangbang it is a gangbang so i really like to watch a girl get it and be and when the guys are like the thing that's rare though and good job they tell her good, the thing that's rare though in gangbang porn. Good job. They tell her good job? That's rare. All it is is like, it's mostly like anger at her and like kind of, it's just too rough

where you're like, be impressed by her. It's rare that you'll find people that are like. Anna Dresden has this great joke where she's like. I was going to say, this is really good.

She has this joke that she would do in her standup where she was like, my favorite, the porn I wish I could see is that a girl's at a gangbang. And then after it's done, you see her walk to her car.

You see her get walked to her car and like make sure that she like rounds the corner and like the guy checks in later. And it's like this responsible thing. But it's like it's not what we see. And that's how you know that women are not creating the porn. It's so true. You just want the guy to like be be like yeah concern for your well-being and the thing is gangbangs are not real they're like they seem like they would feel amazing if they're done right for a girl oh yeah and i feel like guys a lot of times view them as like she this is not

for her this is for us and i'm like no this is for me that would be for me i mean i've never done it but i would like I put myself in that all the time I don't know if it's something I have to do before I find the one or if it's something that I want to do once I find the one and then I'm like so if I meet a guy and he's like I'm not into that stuff I'm like oh do I need to go get to go to a sex club and get that

done or am I only going to live that through fantasy because sometimes I'm watching this stuff and I go you have enough money make this happen like I can pay for this experience or like you know I have the connections to find the people that will make this a reality for me and I could be

a private way and I'm like why don't I just do you know what I mean but I'm also terrified of it and want to keep it in the computer and also you're already in the gangbang of show business like you don't need another thing on your plate you can't add curator of a porn website to that show business. Like you don't need some, you need another thing on your plate. You can't add curator of a porn website to that list. I mean, I just don't think it would work with the dates you have lined up.

But if it becomes a passion project, then I can make time for it. You know, like if it really is something, if it becomes like a hobby, cause I was like, maybe cause I was struggling with hobbies over the pandemic. Like,

I'm like, I don't think I do much other things than work. And now I'm exploring like, what do I like really like? And i'm like i don't think i do much other things than work and now i'm exploring like what do i like really like and i'm like maybe like that kind of world could be a interesting thing but um i'll start with guitar yeah before i go get tied up by a stranger exactly 100 anytime someone asks me what my hobbies are i don't know what to say and i think it's a more natural response or it just would make sense for me to be like oh sex would be a hobby of mine or like learning to like do things in a specific way sexually could be a hobby of mine i've never actually gone down this path well this is this is why it's getting weird for me and like in in the quarantine like because

you're trying to especially like early on when it was like i really wasn't fucking that much before i started to sort of step out and do all that like i i started using poppers when i was jacking off and unfortunately like it's so good and sort of takes you there to the point where it's like there was a point where like i was doing it like every day and i was like no the brain cell loss it just like not gonna ultimately be good for me i'm telling you fully addicted to amyl nitrate it was like wait what what are poppers please explain this to me that i haven't you like has heard of that but i don't understand i'm happy you came here because i it sounds like something i want to get into i think you would actually love them nikki okay so bowen's a chemistry major

so he can sort of like break through what a popper really is So I think I think you would love them They're they're they're they're animal nitrates Um they're basically they're Advertised they're they're packaged as VCR cleaner Nail polish remover But they're inhalants through your nostrils And it just gives

I'm gonna get them get them Matt's gonna demonstrate I have them in my bedroom but it's a little bit further away So but they they are these like very Addictive no no no no I'm going to get them. Get them. Matt's going to demonstrate. I have them in my bedroom, but it's a little bit further away. Are these like very addictive? No, no, no, no, no. I don't think they're, they're not habit forming or anything, but you inhale them one nostril.

Matt's going to demonstrate. So Matt's going to demonstrate. So what we have here is like, you see, it's called Rush. Rush is like sort of like the Coca-Cola of poppers, sort of ubiquitous brand, not necessarily the best. So maybe that's not the best analogy,

but so Matt's going to demonstrate and it just gives you this head. You're doing what? Yeah, it gives you this head rush and it vasodilates you so that it loosens up, loosens you up. Right. So there's going to be

a 45 second period where I'm feeling like really good and you're going to see me sweat. And it's quick. But right now, like if I wanted to ease onto a dick second period where I'm feeling like really good and you're going to see me sweat. And it's quick. But right now, like if I wanted to ease onto a dick right now, it would be like a lot easier. Okay. I know. So this is the thing that helps you relax for anal sex.

But why jerking off is this helpful if you're not having a penetration? It helps. Sometimes I'll do poppers when I'm watching porn just to like like what matt said take me there and like transport me mindset wise and i i do feel like much hornier in that in that high space matt how you feeling i i mean i feel amazing oh my god why don't you do it all the time then i'm like that with weed like weed makes me feel amazing and then i want to do it over and over and then you it starts to not work and then you're like oh this is just gross and it's like that to me is dangerous but i i completely understand what because for i like i love anal sex it feels fucking awesome yes and any guy and the thing is i just i don't understand when people are like oh that's for gay guys it's

like no assholes aren't different than other guys. Like, if it feels amazing to you, it feels like everyone would enjoy it. And I won't, I actually won't have it. And now I'm like, you need to, you need to go out and like find poppers now, especially you love anal sex. You need poppers. Well, I love it. Well, the thing is, that's my favorite part of porn is like that part where you can tell

the girl, like when they tell the girl to relax, because it's the only way, because it's total surrender. I mean, to have them go up your ass, mean it's like you are completely submissive it's like and it's the opposite of i actually don't like to be doing too much like i like to be like in my real life i like to be very like in control in bedroom nothing and like when you actually let a dick in your ass and you're able to relax enough to have that happen naturally it's hard to do it's really hard to do and you to be able to have that experience just brought on by something

that you put up your ass is what you know you sniff it or do you sniff it I mean and then it could be more comfortable to put something up dress which is really the reason why you do it but the thing is with yeah but it's so do you find it hard to put something up your ass like let's say you're masturbating and jerk off at the same time because for me I can't

do that's my biggest complaint about masturbation is like I need a fucking machine I want something and I actually do have most of my dildos have a thing that makes them move independently so that it feels like someone else because I need that and I need clit so I need like to

stimulation in lots of places and I want something up my ass too. So it's like I need three hands to really get the job done in the way I want. But yeah, masturbation for me is a whole process because of that. But when you masturbate, you guys, do you stick something up your ass? Will you put a finger or something? Or like a toy?

I've done that. I started doing that in the fall just to like... Because sometimes, just to be totally honest... Because the weather changed. because the weather changed because the weather changed just the leaves the foliage yes after the winds of change i i've been having trouble in the handful of times i've i've bottomed or i've just had sex recently i'm having trouble coming while something is inside me. The thing they don't tell you about anal sex is that it does hurt every time in the beginning. Like, like it's not something where it's like you do it enough times and it's like, oh, forget it. Now you can just

slip it in when, when the dick first goes, goes in. I think it does hurt every time. And there is that period of adjustment, which is why these are so handy. and also just the mentality and the knowledge of the fact that like the pain is a part of it in the beginning and then i'm off to the races yes and i spent my entire 20s being so afraid of bottoming i i mean i'm telling you like the pain is not something i like to embrace but i mean like i bone will tell you i had like such a complex about this for my whole 20s like was that were you scared of the pain or the poop well both i guess right because like the poop is such a there's i was scared of the poop the pain i was like i could take it yeah there's such a threat of poop and i've prepared poorly several times and i look forward to now like just

committing to this is something i enjoy and this is how i prepare for it and not just winging it yeah yeah yeah no no but the same time it's like i have to give grace i get i also give grace now it's like whenever anyone feels they've prepared and they obviously haven't i just give them the grace that i know i would want given to me you know what i mean and this is the only way I'm even close to a Christian. It's like, I give grace when it comes to bottoming. I hope to receive grace. If there's a little bit of poop at the end, guess what? We just

fucked in our assholes, so it's actually okay and no one's gonna be dead. Like, there's so much like, like this weird like, ick factor around poop during sex. And I believe we talked about this recently, did we not, Beau? Of what? Of just the poop being present? Of that ick factor around poop during sex and i believe we talked about this recently did we not bow uh of what of just the poop being present of that ick factor on on during sex about repoop yeah we have we have we have yeah and it's just like it's got it we got we got to end the stigma well

the the only thing i i understand the shame around pooping like let it go and i was able to do that like if i shit on a guy i'm like you're the one with your dick in my ass like this is it that's where i do that it's like the actually the primary use of that is is that so it shouldn't be a surprise and i've had boyfriends really handle it very perfectly and not make me feel bad change the bed sheets while i'm in the shower still and i come back it's like a fresh bed it's like it never happened it's like really sweet things but the thing that bums me out is like it smells like shit in the room you know like if you like the the second the shit smells introduced to sex it like makes me it makes you lose your guy loses erection it makes me like oh my god am i like it it's the smell but if you got if you lost your

smell in covid then it's really no problem that's the benefit of losing it all the anal i want that's the benefit of covid that's the benefit of covid yeah just a the anal I want. That's the benefit of COVID. That's the benefit of COVID. Yeah. Just a silver lining. Now I get anti-vaxxers. They're like, well, I'm hoping to get it so my sense of smell goes away so I don't smell poop when I get fucked in my ass. It's like, oh, okay. I hadn't considered this anti-vax perspective.

That is the one I will allow. I have one friend who is scared of needles and I have one who wants to have anal sex with a bandit and not have the smell like ruin the mood. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately.

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He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami.

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Were you on an island recently? Yes. We talk about this because we weren't following along the saga necessarily, but tell us what's happened on the island. Yes. Well, I can't talk about what I was doing. Okay. Well, I can say I was on a show there. I was doing but I was I was on a show there I was doing a new show and filming a new show

on location which is like the greatest time of my entire life being with a big group of people meeting new people there was no COVID in the Cayman Islands on Grand Cayman so we quarantined for two weeks and then we were free to roam about the country at our leisure for two weeks and then we were free to roam about the country uh at our leisure for

two whole months making a show and it was a show that i signed on for because i just it just fit with everything i want to do in life like it just was like i had after covid i was just like i only want to do things that are like fun and weird and just seem like an adventure and i was scared to go because it's just like i was just scared to. And I was scared to go because it's just like, I was just scared to be social. I was scared to be somewhere where like the world was open again. And like, I have to be social and make friends.

And, but in terms of the work, I was just in a zone where it was like, I had no nerves about it. I'm like, I've got this. Like I, they made the right choice with me,

very confident going into it. So I was able to just have so much freaking fun. And, and I lived in the Cayman Islands and then the show wrapped and i didn't want to go home i just stayed alone i met some friends like i've met like my makeup artist i became really good friends with so i made some friends that were able but i just stayed i couldn't let it go i just like stayed on the island for two weeks in this dope hotel that was like suites are usually four thousand dollars a night and i got them for 600 a night,

which is still a lot of money. But like I was living large in the Cayman Islands for two weeks by myself, just like processing what I had been through and being grateful and just dreading going back to the States, like to wear masks again. And then, and then now I'm back to the grind, but,

and live in St. Louis, but it was, it was just the best. I location is legit it's like summer camp oh my god wow have you guys ever done that have you ever been on like a thing somewhere where everyone's kind of there for just a short amount of time i'm about i'm about to but i haven't but it sounds like a fucking dream it's if you're with the right

people and find your right group it is it's like it really is summer camp it was so fun and i'm with a bunch of people that have been doing this forever so i'm like isn't this like the best and they're like you'll get you you'll see but i was having i was so enthusiastic about it like this is the life i want because i get just traveling all the time doing stand-up you never are somewhere long enough where you learn where you're you are you know this the coffee shop you like to go to the restaurants and like you just the people are always different and I was just like it's just so nice to like show up to a place and like

they're the same people and like I don't know I'm just stand up I'm looking forward to getting back into it but I'm making it a whole like my tour is just gonna be me with a caravan of friends yeah gotta keep it as fun as possible I'm not doing any more work that's not fun i can't right yes yeah but i've only just i'm only just now able to right are you like

booked up is it like one night in this city and then the next night in another and the next night in another are you giving yourself some grace days because when we toured it was kind of we always say like oh we wish we had spent we have been able to land for like at least two or three days in this one spot like it's important because you then you leave the place and you're like, why did I travel if I wasn't going to actually like at least be there for two days and at least have one day in the city and then one night out at a restaurant or like a club or something or bar or whatever. Like, are you giving yourself that?

I think it's a really good idea, but I just don't know that I can make it happen because I want to be home when I'm not working like I would like I'm trying to have some sort of place that I can call home and if I do that too much I'll always be on the road so if it's just like two cities in one weekend then I'm home the rest of the time but it's like

I don't know I'm getting to the age where it's like this is getting old this just like working every night doing stand up every night, doing sets. And I don't want to live that life. Like I can't, like I will definitely always do standup and always do specials and work really hard when I'm working on one.

But this, I'm so glad for me that COVID made me like figure out what I could do at night besides standup or fill my life with besides running around doing podcasts. And it really is just opening besides running around doing podcasts and it really is just opening my computer doing podcasts and then yeah and and and but not doing zoom shows like but watching tv going to like eating dinner and then like going to bed i've never done that in the 17 years i've been doing stand-up comedy as just like have an evening in if there's stand-up

i will be at it right and i don't want to do it anymore i'm tired no because this is the thing in this new show that's out hacks on hbo max this this this gene smart character like is is is a joan rivers like phyllis diller type who like has just has has never stopped working in her in her life and and then it like it's gotten me to rethink the whole way like people talk about like the art of showing up or whatever it's like but showing up is actually like overrated in some ways especially especially after you've put in the hours and you like and you paid your dues and all that like at a certain point you have to decide for yourself oh i'm not going to do uh to quote uh chad michaels and rupaul's drag race the chicken chick gigs i'm not gonna do

like that stuff it's well you know what you really need a period of yes before you can realize what's too much like i had that like when i was on my on the grind and like in our 20s bow like when it was like doing a ton a ton a ton a ton a ton and then you just realize like you have only slept for five hours the night before or maybe combined like your sleep your average of sleep is like six seven hours for like two three days do you know how good it feels to sleep eight hours a night if you can do that if you can figure that out if you have the time and availability to eat well and sleep it just makes you a more like valid human being it's just so much easier so like i get people are like you know whatever self-care has now become like like a sort of gauche thing to say because it's like everyone's saying self-care.

Everyone's talking about it. But they got a fucking point because, you know, that is something the quarantine lets you know is it's like sometimes that pace of living, if you're always tired all the time, is not normal. It's not normal. No. Yeah. And the self-care thing, it needs to be trendy because we are Americans work so hard that we the only way we'll adopt something is if it is trendy and like the cool thing to do because we don't like ourselves. And we value ourselves based on how much output we do and how much we protect, like can say that we work so that we can deserve the thing. We can't eat the thing unless we go to the class. And we can't and we can't.

I can't. I mean, we go to the class and we can't and we can't i can't um i mean i my whole life is a reward system i can't enjoy my i can't sit down and watch tv if i haven't done anything all day like i can't take a nap unless i'm desperate for a nap and it's like why can't i just lay down because i want to it's like i'm i'm really into that stuff now and because it feels so good and that's what we're meant to do so i think we have to make it like trendy so anyone does it because i'm so tired of people thinking it's cool to be tired and i used to be that way it's like of like how much you didn't sleep and it's like you shouldn't be here you're drunk i don't want to hear how the pa is underslept on this show because he's driving a bus of people and he doesn't know how to drive in this country or

what you know what like there are things there's like sleep deprivation is really fucked and we're all walking around with it and our you know the screens are doing shit to us too it's like i love sleep but sometimes i'm just like the every day you wake up and it's like another full day of non-stop work and you when you get to the end it, you just don't want to go to sleep because you want to be awake for some relaxation. And then it leads to more sleep. Sleeping is not what I want to do when I'm most tired for some reason. Wow. And that's actually the most fucked up thing.

Because it's not every night that that happens to me, but some nights it is that thing where it's like well i've earned some some reward for for all the work that i've put in today and and and most of the time it's just better to just i don't know shut down but wait okay hold on you you want your you want your dates down to be like you're bringing in friends like what's like describe like an ideal night like in in some city like with who yeah well i always have my podcast uh co-host andrew collin he's my best friend he's my roommate i moved him from new york city uh where he was we were always working together and he was on my radio show and he's a stand-up comic and he's open for me on the road for a couple years now i moved him to st louis because i was living with my

parents the whole pandemic i wanted to move out of their house but i also could not be alone i just know that if i'm not doing stand-up every night and like socializing then i could be alone but so i was like andrew moved to st louis and start this podcast with me so every day i do this podcast with him now so when we're going on the road now i'm like okay andrew's opening for me i'm gonna bring my um my other best friend anya marina she's a amazing singer oh i know anya marina oh my God. Yes. She did a lot of Grey's Anatomy songs back in the day. She did.

Her cover of T.I.'s Whatever You Like is the hottest thing. I was a fan before I was a friend and it's so sexy and she's just incredible. So she opens for me. She opened for me on my last tour. She's just like a calming presence. She was my tour manager last time though too. i and i made a change this time i'm like

i'll pay you the same but you're not tour managing because i want you no stress i want you down to hang and be like my emotional support friend and then i'm also i also might start getting into town the day before and during the day of my show I might do Taylor Swift sing-alongs where I play guitar and everyone comes to a cafe. It's free for Swifties because I'm playing

guitar now and singing all the time and I just want to sing Taylor Swift with other Swifties so I might do Swiftie meetups. Oh my god. Well you've also come to the right place. You know that we are literally Taylor Nation. I wanted to talk to you guys about Taylor Swift so badly because no one gets it. They don't.

I know that you guys do because I heard your one where you covered folklore. I think it was. I think it was right with folklore. It was so just nuanced and really came from a perspective of two people that I know love her as much as I do and like really appreciate her and so

yeah I just I know that as a 36 soon to be 37 year old Swifty I would want to go somewhere and sing with a bunch of other girls 100% so even if it's bad which I'm not good at guitar I'm like we'll all sing it'll just be so fun it just

I was doing Taylor Swift dance parties during the COVID I would just do a playlist and we'd all just dance on zoom like hundreds of people love it and it was so fun because I just I just she really makes me happy and I like like I listened I have to like what I watch her Grammy performance now before I go like on a podcast or if I'm on my way to a set and I'm like kind of nervous and want to get into like my energy of being like I got this I'm fucking I'm a pro like I watch her latest Grammy performance because it's just masterful and emotional and raw

and yeah she just gets me in the right place where she goes into Willow in August oh so good yeah she's she started on Cardigan August Willow. When she snuck August in there, I was like, thank you for giving August the live award show moment. Because August was obviously on an album full of highlights.

It was the highlight of the album, which I believe you would all agree. Absolutely was the highlight. And just a song that has resonated with me throughout the first moment I heard it I have meet me behind the mall is like the best line cancel my plans just in case you call back when I was living for the hope

of it all meet me behind the mall just being snuck around by some dude that doesn't even like it's so heartbreaking and like it's just it has this itian it it's it brings the bridge in very soon and then it doubles down the structure is brilliant of that song truly cool it's all over the place and it's so good and it's and you're right like the pond sessions didn't give me what i wanted even though jack antonoff during august on this pond sessions is hilarious but i wanted a like full i wanted

her standing up off of a couch you know like yeah and that gave it to me too but august was my yeah my number one spotify play like it was i couldn't stop and i and i still play it all the time i just i just sang it with my friends i made my friends come over and sing it with me in the courtyard it's the best i think we're in this weird zone in terms of Swifty age where- Yeah, when did you guys get on board? I was on board ever since Fearless. Yeah, I would say that when I started to become

legit, legit, legit was probably tail end of Red and then in 10, 19, 18, 19. So I was a little, I guess, late. I know that there's like hardcore swifts who have like truly been on the ground for us and self-titled yeah but but when i tell you when i joined the bandwagon i joined it hard like it was like 1989 to me still is her masterpiece i actually i stand reputation i i stand we are this is a reputation house this is This is one here.

Thank you. I reputation. I mean, the whole album I celebrate. There are no dots on it. I was just on a subreddit, a Taylor Swift subreddit, and they were ranking her songs by album.

And it's funny because Taylor Swifties don't, we'll never say anything bad about Taylor Swift. Like, you know, like they, we can, you know, stand culture.

You just don't. And that they do the surveys. Some teenager made it. It was like, uh, like they, we can, you know, Stan culture. You just don't. Yeah. And that they do the surveys. Some teenager made it. It was like, uh, like you're not, they didn't say least favorite, but it was like,

uh, it started with, there was some way they did it so that you wouldn't be saying it was your least favorite or something like that. But it was, which is nice. It's so, they're so nice.

And I love Swifties and that's why, and I feel like I'm one. I just Taylor Swift, 1989 dropped. And I hearing, and I went to her red concert and I got into red a lot but there was just something about 1989 and then going to that show I just and then reputation was for me what just like uh-oh we're in some trouble you'll never be the same Nikki because you heard delicate I heard delicate please this ain't for the best it still is my uh it's my alarm every morning this ain't for the best i don't get sick of it i

do not get sick of that song it's just it's disgusting and i don't know about you but like you said like and i want to ask everyone what their favorite live taylor performance is but this is one that so i might be the biggest i know you you probably do, but there, for me, there's two, one, there's a live performance that she did of treacherous, which is, um, it was like, um,

she had like her bangs and her, like her, like liberal arts hair. The kids are sitting on the floor. And the kids are sitting on the floor. She's reading them a book. And she's, and she is like,

she's just explaining it in the beginning and then does it. And then it's so good. Her vocal is so great. But my favorite performance of hers is wildest dreams from the tour, which is a, uh, I believe it's a mashup. Oh my God.

Was it enchanted? Enchanted. Enchanted. Enchanted wildest dreams, uh, mashup, because I'm telling you, she sings the wildest dream bridge over and over like three extra times.

And then she does the chorus at the end and that she gets up from the piano and starts doing her white girl stomp and she's giving you her hips and she's just giving she's so taylor and i also like for me my favorite type of song is like an emotional ballad that lifts off like i wildest dreams to me is i did that thing i don't know if you guys have done this but like they'll like um do like the the march madness the brackets with her songs oh yeah i did it and no matter what i do while the streams always wins and i know that no one else is saying that but me but while the streams to me is it i just got into wildest dreams like a month ago i know i know it was just one that i like was like it's great I know it and I

could sing it you know I know all the lyrics but I just really for her I gotta feel this I have to go through what that I need I seek out her songs to feel my feelings I can't get there really otherwise so I will go through when I'm going through a heartbreak or feeling like the industry is out to I'll find the song and And I'm, and wildest dreams. I was just like seeing like, will this fit my mood today? And I go, holy shit.

It's there when you need it. Every aspect of what I wanted. And it was just like this. It was like, it's like porn for my emotions. Like it really just like got everything out that I needed. And then the music video where she has the, but I can't wait to watch that live.

I haven't watched that live performance because Enchanted though is so good do you know that it was written about the lead singer of that one band that did I get a thousand hugs from ten thousand fireflies wait no lead singer about city

she met him at a party and she wrote that song about him and then by the time it came out she was like super famous and he she wrote that song about him and then by the time it came out she was like super famous and he found out it was about him and he like slid back in and he like i think wrote a song or covered it he covered it to like get her attention again and she never acknowledged it oh that's no she moved on but wait what's what's your number one live bow she had okay she had moved on my number one live is a tie between but they're from the same they're from the same concert quote unquote which is her grammy's museum performance

you guys know what i'm talking about right she was great yeah it's but it's the acoustic version of blank space yep and then and then it's the fucking like just like jeff buckley guitar version of wildest dreams and like both of those she's just and also like this is so shallow but her look was so perfect she's just in a black in a black mock neck black pants her hair was perfectly like just

brushed and like gentle curl up like curl up around the frame of her face so poised and just perfect and confident and she's at the Grammys too so she's like she's like a she's at the top yeah it was her imperial phase we always say like the pops the

star burned brightest not not that and the thing is she has had this many times because she's very good at reinventing sort of Madonna ask in that way where it's like you know there's just a constant sort of reinvention happening with her and especially now with essentially nymph in the woods culture that's happening which we love like witch in the woods moment uh but that was so she was really hitting it at that yeah show bow you're

so right oh my god the blank space i really love i have so good i love she she does the interest she goes yeah and she's talking about like you know i'm getting written up all the time it's really fun she's she's really yeah yeah so like people have been obsessed with my love life and paying attention to every detail it's really fun so imagine like what if that character that people think that i am wrote a song and it just i guess i never thought of that song that way and it's that song is so great because i've started doing that version of that song like i learned how to play guitar the same way. And I, and I,

and I'm like, I'm not as good as the singers or I'm not as good as guitarists, but I've been working on the performance of it. And I was listening, I'm thinking about the lyrics and I'm like, I love this song because this song is, this woman is a psycho. And she starts out so nice.

Nice to meet you. Where you been? Oh my God, I can show you incredible things. But then she's like, uh, I'll find out what you want. I'll be that girl for a month oh wait the worst is yet to come but she's saying it with a smile and then it gets into like crying screaming doors and it just becomes crazy and like she and she acts this out obviously in the music video and it was a very like very

heavy-handed message but that i i, but I just love that this, I now I'm realizing like, okay, if I'm going to perform music, I'm not that good at singer guitar. Maybe I can bring some comedic value to it of like, unpiecing this character of who this girl is. So it's like,

I've been trying to explore her songs that way. Just analyzing the lyrics. Cause there's no one better than that. I mean, I just, I I'm so, so I'll get to my favorite live performance. Sorry for all of that. I'll get to my favorite live performance sorry for all of that I will

have to say I can't get over the I I cannot get over the camera fucking with her eyes she does on Betty the American Country Music Awards acoustic she was very

showed up at your party yeah we're getting the eyes awards acoustic she was very showed up at your party yeah we're getting guys watch go back and watch that yeah like she is looking that camera like I felt I was like aroused by it and I just thought it was like so I just love her very acoustic

and her outfit for that was very toned down she did her own makeup but then if we're Cornelia Street, the Paris one, I really love because of that. City screams your name. That like your,

that she reaches for, where she's like, it's like more rugged. I just, yeah. But literally every single one, she just can't go wrong. And she's gotten so much better with time.

And it just, it's fun to watch her old stuff. Cause I didn't get into her until so late and just see just you know i feel like i feel very i relate to taylor swift a lot and i i'm just scared she's gonna have kids because then i'll stop relating to her no no no i don't think she is so aware and she's so in touch with like what people like about her that i think she'll she'll never be she'll never lose that self-awareness in terms of like how it translates to her music or how she connects to her her listeners um but wait talk about your personal history with taylor swift especially the swifties because

because there was that like weird time when it felt when it felt like volatile and hostile right and like i've and like i've experienced this with Swifties too where like they've come after me. They're really, really sensitive and that's what I was I was anticipating them being very, very angry at me. They didn't come at me

because I got ahead of it before they could figure out who I was. Right. But I really ended up so I was in the trailer for Miss Americana that dropped a a week before Miss Americana came out the documentary on Netflix and I at midnight the trailer dropped as a

Swifty I pulled it up and in bed watching it and I hear my own voice and I was just like the documentary that's like like where she she's like I had to go away for a year and it's during like the part of the documentary that's like like where she she's like i had to go away for a year and it's like a bunch of people saying shitty things and me being like she has all these model friends she's too skinny it's like i i don't like it it's just me just being not funny just like and it's my voice i send it to all my friends and i'm like you guys i am in the sailor's documentary and they're like that is not you you would never say those things and i'm like i know it's me of course i would because like i i know that i i used to mouth off about her because i was so like wanting to be her and i felt like now she's a

model and now she's it's like the thing i just said i don't want her to have kids because i will relate and i'm like are you now you're friends with all the only hadids like you're i'm losing you it's no that's part of loving someone so much that's part of loving someone so much is you sometimes do say something, teasing them. Like everyone that we stand, we all, it's because we love them so much

that we have fun with them. So I get what you were doing. But yeah. And it was the same though. Like I love her so much. I felt I was losing her to models and to that, like I thought I was going to lose her.

And so I was going to shame her for it that she'd come back to me the way, like my best friend Kirsten in high school like like when i found out she like blew someone i just like i cried and cried because i was like i've lost you like i can't you've lost her i can't do that i'm not gonna be able to do that and talk to you and relate to you anymore so that's how i felt about taylor swift being skinnier than me like honestly and like being so like well clothed and shiny and like model like she's a legit she could be a model yeah like a runway model you know and so i lashed out on some dumb show and then i uh i i waited a week and during that week i couldn't listen to taylor swift music i was just

like i've done my girl wrong i don't know how bad this is going to be like i i just the thought of her made me like sad because i was like i i hurt her feelings yeah and i didn't know what the impact was going to be in terms of like how i come off on this documentary what else i said i didn't even look up the clip and i'm like i don't even want to know it's what's done is done my agents and everyone were like don't make this a thing because you know we don't want to upset her or anything like i go can you can you find out what part of this i they were like we're not gonna say anything so then someone got a pre-screener and was like you're in it and i was like oh god damn it and um i finally watched it and it was just it was a clip of me it wasn't my name they didn't use my name like or like you do a chiron for me

but it's my face and it's video of me going she's just all she has model friends she's too skinny it's like come on it was just me being like just a little bitch like bitching about my like gossipy and not funny like if it was funny i could even justify it but it wasn't and i i wouldn't even then so i just felt really sad and i caught a couple like hateful dms but not like from people who really did their work and then all day I was like I couldn't even feel my feelings because I couldn't listen to Taylor Swift to process what I was feeling about Taylor Swift because it triggered me so much to be like I don't want to listen to this person that probably hates me right and so

I was like walking around the city I didn't know what to do and then I was like I have to apologize I didn't want to go through my agents because I thought that they would probably be so scared of even talking to her that they'd tell me that they wrote they sent it to her and then I was like I have to apologize I didn't want to go through my agents because I thought that they would probably be so scared of even talking to her that they'd tell me that they wrote they sent it to her and then they wouldn't lie about it because to protect me and because they're liars and so you know and they lie for a living so

I just decided to like put out a picture of me in a Taylor Swift shirt and then write a caption being like hey I was in this thing and I clocked out and I loved it. I thought it was a perfectly written thing. I loved it. It wasn't trying to protect myself from Swifties because they weren't really

coming after me. It was honestly to have a chance of getting this in front of her eyes because I thought maybe she'll see this and she'll know that I am someone who's struggled with eating disorders and like the fact that I may have contributed to hers in any way by commenting on her body like was and and then

I admitted to just being jealous and I thought it was and then she she wrote a comment and I literally can't even remember what it was because I saw it I couldn't look again right it was too much like I just like was like thank you Taylor and then I was like I don't even know what it was and so that and but the way she wrote it was like so like oh my god this means so much to me like it was just the way she talked you could tell it mattered to her that you said that it really did I think because you know

the thing that I think sometimes we forget about people that are this big is that like they do have the internet and they are human beings and the thing is like you know especially I think when someone is like really funny I think for a lot of musicians too they look at like funny people as like people that have like some sort of like uh eye on the whole thing and like whenever a comedian makes fun of them it's always like oh it's their job it's a comedian making fun of me but also there

i think there's an insinuate there's like probably a false insinuation that comedians are like smart or all seeing or will call out the thing that everyone's thinking. So there is that thing of, oh, a comedian made fun of me. Am I this thing? And so I think for you to own it like that, even if you didn't need to, even if it was just something you tossed off and you did not need to beat yourself up about it, I think she as a human being was like, oh like cool funny gorgeous comedian that like you know may have bothered me like owned this went out of her way to do this and be like i have such a respect and admiration for you i'm sorry and she did reply very thoughtfully and you could tell that she

wouldn't have just said that had it not been something that was really meaningful and i thought the whole thing was great thank you and i honestly want to take this opportunity to address another time i talked ill of taylor swift in a way that it was before miss americana but it only came out after miss americana so i felt like if she could have seen it i like it was only after my apology and then i taped the swing before so but it's like a bonus exactly what you're saying of like the people you love so much and you know the most about you have the most opinions about you as a comedian, maybe make the most fun of. But honestly, when I did Dancing with the Stars, I kind of signed up for that because I like there was a part of me that was like Taylor Swift makes like kind of white girl

dancing, like not like being kind of gone, you know, like in the shake, you know, shake it off video. It was like she was like people accuse her of appropriating, but she was just bad at it. She was just bad. She wasn't that good in some of those dances. It wasn't, but it looked fun

and it was fun to watch, which is what dancing is. It doesn't mean it's bad. But the truth is, Taylor Swift is actually a great dancer. She's great at choreo. She is.

So I didn't have my knowledge when I said that. So in a couple interviews, I said the fact that Taylor Swift can be bad at dancing and own it and I love her so much and I like watching her bad dancing. And I didn't have my knowledge when I said that. So in a couple of interviews, I said the fact that Taylor Swift can be a bad at dancing and own it. And I love her so much. And I like watching her bad dancing. And I didn't,

I was speaking from a place of like assuming she was bad dancing, but not really having seen it. So someone, I, a fan of mine met her and she, and this was before Miss Americana went backstage and said, I, Nikki Glaser loves you.

Do you, do you know Nikki Glaser? She's a comedian that loves you. And she goes, is that the one that says that I, my bad dancing inspired her. And I know Nikki Glaser? She's a comedian that loves you. And she goes, is that the one that says that my bad dancing inspired her? And I was like, so Taylor's heard me say that. And that makes me so sad because I want to,

if so, if anyone out there listening to this knows Taylor Swift, will you let her know that the truth behind me referencing her being a bad dancer is the fact that I'm a bad dancer. And so I projected that onto her, not knowing how good she dances. Then I saw her video Delicate and that onto her not knowing how good she dances then I saw her video delicate and that

bitch can dance and she that girl could do anything she puts her mind to and then I've also seen reputation like since then I've immersed myself in her live performances which I hadn't before and knowing what I know from Dancing with the Stars and how hard it is to dance that girl the fact that she's able to dance as good as she

can and everything else as good as she can she's a very good dancer and i would never compare myself to her again in the dancing realm at this point in her career i think taylor swift must understand or have some empathy towards the people who make any swipe at her not that not that you saying that she was a bad dancer was a swipe but the people who make a swipe at her are it that you saying that she was a bad dancer was a swipe, but the people who make a swipe at her, it is a projection. They are seeing her as this Rorschach test. It's like they see what they want to see out of her when this like...

She knows that. She's smart enough to know that, but this girl gets her revenge. She is driven by that. And I remember, like she wrote a whole song Mean about someone saying that she couldn't sing. So for me, and as someone who is very similar

to her in that way, I'm projecting onto her the fact, if someone were to say something like that about me, it would stick in my, I would remember it. She thinks I'm a bad dancer. I actually thought I was really good and delicate. And the truth is, you were She thinks I'm a bad dancer. Like, I actually thought I was really good and delicate.

And the truth is, you were. And you are a good dancer. And I wasn't, I hadn't seen that yet. So, and she doesn't take jokes about herself well,

as we've seen. Sure, sure, sure. No, no, she's had problems with comedians before. She's untouchable. Yeah. In terms of that, like, the line in that Netflix show.

Right. Do you remember that? Yes, I do. That was the whole thing. And I think that was a little like, I understand where she's coming from. She's like tired of the same jokes being made. She dates a lot.

But that was like a, that I was like, wow, okay. You know what? She definitely was probably upset at my dancing thing. And I'm that sensitive too. I honestly am. So I get it. Yeah, it was definitely indicative of a sensitivity

that we obviously know is there. But it's an interesting thing with her because we know her as being two things. An incredibly sensitive person, and that makes her such a great artist. But also an incredibly smart and shrewd businesswoman and someone who is very in charge of their brand and very smart about their brand. And I say this not in a pejorative, but calculated about the way that her business is done. So when those two things are both true, I think it's almost hard to reconcile. And I do think that the thing about Taylor Swift is like for anyone in the millennial age group or a couple of years out, she is probably the biggest pop star of our time. And so with that and the knowledge that we are living in the age of social media that really

took over during her rise to being number one and how she stayed there there's a lot to negotiate so it's like the way you talk about celebrities especially the way you talk about women the way you talk about um you know the way women have conflict with each other the way that they negotiate those conflicts i mean it's just a lot and there's a lot to learn about her re the way that she's consumed by the media and the populace there probably could be like a college course taught on this honestly she's living experience only the beatles and michael jackson like she's living in such i can't imagine what it would be like to be her and for her to crank out these songs that are still so relatable with her life as such a megastar is is really says something about her character

but i mean i even feel it i remember recently someone i was like like romantically involved with is like teasing me about my looks in a way that i was just like I don't I don't want to be called I don't want any like jokes about my looks I really feel like it's it's a and he's just like I don't understand that like you're the most beautiful but like you know that's a total joke that I would say you look like that thing that you don't even like there was he just couldn't understand that I would ever feel ugly and I go or that would feel hurt by this absurd comparison right and I I go well because I grew up like I felt ugly as a little girl I'm still in that and I've accepted myself and I like myself but I can't handle being mocked for my like features and it's not that I can't handle it I get

it everywhere like I do get it when I find myself up for roast so there's been like jokes that have been presented that are really hurtful to my feelings that are repeated over and over on twitter and youtube comments and it's just like comparing me to larry bird or you know owen wilson or saying like you know horse face stuff like that you get that all the time and he's like don't read the comments and i just i fucking blew up so easy for you to say and the thing is i don't read comments i don't i haven't read a YouTube comment since 2011. Like, I'm not kidding you. I don't read comments. I have to read

through Instagram stuff to interact with fans. I have to read tweets to that stuff. You can't avoid it, even if you avoid it. And the shit, yeah, the shit gets through that filter anyway. Of course it does. It gets through it anyway. And so I said, I get that all out there. But for someone, that was him not understanding what it's like to be a

public figure and to be mocked. And, and, and I come off like this, like, I only want everyone to like, be nice to me and kind of me. It's like,

well, I think I deserve that because a lot of people are, get to be vocal about how they hate me more so than a normal person. So if celebrities tend to want to be held, like handled with kid gloves by the people closest to them it kind of makes sense.

And on Taylor Swift's level I can't even imagine what that would be like. It's everyone. It's everyone. Yeah. It's people that love you. It's me Nikki Glaser

who's your number one fan talking trash. Like it's it must be you can't you must turn on the TV going I hope there's not a joke about me.

That's what probably happened with Ginny and Georgia that show. she probably was enjoying that show and then is suddenly taken out of it because this show thought of her as like presented her as something that she's not and it's like that would hurt that must have been the reason why she she tweeted about it was i bet you because because i just realized that yeah because i go why is such venom but it's like she wanted she was like trusting them to be nice to her and take her on a journey or not expected to even be mentioned from her own life like that's why

we watch dramas like and then all of a sudden they're making fun of you fuck you yeah so I get it I was just going to comment on that with Matt's comment about the millennial sort of aspect of it being being sort of like tied to like her

her identity and like the way the millennial sort of aspect of it being, being sort of like tied to like her, her, her, her identity and like the way that like we have any discourse about pop stars. It's interesting now because I'm talking to not even talking to anybody, but I'm just noticing that like these new people that are coming up, like girl in red, there's,

she's this great Norwegian singer, girl in red and like Olivia Rodrigo, like guess who's their number one inspiration it's taylor i know i love it i love i love what we're gonna get what we're gonna get exactly but what we're getting is like this other generation of people who are inspired by her and i think by and large that younger listenership is like not does not have all this crate these these they don't have all these weird hang-ups about how who she dates and and what like what her personality is or who her friends are

it's like they're just there because they loved her music they listened to it they listened to 1989 is like a seven-year-old let's say and now they're vintage for them yeah and now it's and now they're 14 and now they're like oh my god God. Like, it's like, we love, like, it's like the way that I relate to the spice girls, because I was seven when I, when the spice girls first came out and I will never say a bad thing about the spice girls ever. You know,

it's like, that's what, that's what's coming up now. And like, I think it's cool. And then I was talking to Celestium, uh, they're,

they're, they're a writer SNL. They just turned 25. They're a baby. Um, and I was like, you like, and,

uh, they're, they're a lesbian. And I was like, you like Taylor Swift, right? And they were like, I love Taylor Swift. And I was like, and I was like, like and uh they're a lesbian and i was like you like taylor swift right and they were like i love taylor swift and i was like and i was like yeah okay and like what's with all these like these like kids liking taylor now and they were just like i think it's code for um it's it's code for dyke energy it's like you are like um you like you have the sensitivity or

this like awareness of your own emotion oh my god that checks out for all right like she knows I mean I've recently felt like I might be in love with Taylor Swift the way I was in love with Dave Matthews in high school like wow she's kind of set me on this course of like I want to be in a relationship

like I want to protect her and like I would like love I could I could probably date taylor yeah i would i i can i can appreciate the fact that she would not want that from me but i if she did i would be down and i i don't and and and that makes me open to being like okay well if i can love her that like it's yeah maybe i'll be but but the the it's funny because the my my adult friends that i've recently been like hey do you like I'm always looking for other Swifties to like hang out with and talk Swift

with like and and the ones the girls that I've met recently have been have been lesbian gay later in life yeah yeah yeah there's a whole there's a there's a lot she has a very very strong lesbian fan base and obviously she's I think she's got a very strong lesbian fan base. And obviously she's, I think she's got a very strong queer fan base. And I think that probably the last time she was discussed in like a, you know, negative way was when the lover album came out and it felt like there was some pandering going on, which is an interesting time because I do think there was a lot of eye roll

coming from her queer fan base because it kind of felt like we already loved you. We didn't need you to do all of this but then it's like interesting because to slow your roll just a second like at the end of the day like isn't it net positive that she's like i am standing up i say like i embrace all queer people you know what i mean and still we were being snarky about it because i think it did have i think we've all been trained as we've, as we've gotten older,

you know, and sort of understood how marketed to we all are. We've sort of been trained to what I always say, notice the Pepsi cans for once. You know what I mean? Like when you walk into a room, like, and you're being given some entertainment,

like how many fucking Pepsi cans there are. Like, I like to just sort of notice that. So I know when I'm being marketed to, and there was the whole sort of like, you know, chase bank pride float thing going on when it felt like she was doing this like queer support thing.

But at the end of the day, it's like, all we ever wanted this girl to do was stand up and take a stand for what was right. And she finally did. And we have something snarky to say about it again. Like, and then I did,

I did, I did sort of get, um, I thought that she tackled it really responsibly and as well as she could have in the miss americana documentary where she sort of explained what she was up against i thought the comparison to the dixie chicks or now the chicks was really apt like the way it completely changed their um their experience in the music industry and therefore change their fans experience with them, you know, it's incredibly difficult. And so I think that was an interesting time for her,

the lover era, which I don't even know. It feels like it was pretty glossed over, like in the grand scheme of the way Taylor views things. But that was, that was a weird time. That was a rocky time for fans and, and Taylor,

especially queer friends and Taylor. That's really interesting i love to hear that perspective because it did feel like what what is this anthem like the and and i really was bothered not bothered but i thought she should have done um hate never made anybody less gay not shade because shade felt like kind of like minimizing what it is that people are doing so i've that choice i was like that could have been harder that was the only note that i had as someone not uh like that didn't identify as queer at the time and it might someday don't don't currently well we have taylor sort of mixing the feelings up for you so it's watch this yeah definitely oh they're they're definitely

mixed up and i there are times i'm just i think i want to kiss her like she's just so like so there is that vibe for me but the um the the whole lover what was i going to say about the oh the fact that she is someone who you did say is calculated like she wants everyone to like her i mean that's what miss americana was about like she has that drive to get everyone she wants to make her fans happy she She cares so much about her fans. She really does. So for her to be able to take that chance of alienating whoever

might not like her stance on, you know, things. Yeah, to do that was I don't know if I would have thought Taylor Swift was capable of making that kind of decision where you cut off. Like if you'd say, you know, when she spoke out about Trump, I was just like, finally.

Yeah, yeah. Right. But that's not easy to do at all. That was a new that was a new story. Remember? Like huge. Yep. And he was like, I used to be a fan.

I like her 50 percent less. I'm like, you stop listening to Taylor Swift. You deserve her. It made me mad that he would ever hear a song. I was like, dude, shut up. Don't ever listen to her song. And we talk about how she can't turn on the TV without there potentially

being a joke about her. She knew that he would say something when she said something. You know what I mean? It's like, this is the kind of president who, he would love nothing more than to get into it with Taylor Swift. But I feel she she genuinely thought she got to the end of the line of being able to be like complacent about these

issues like because you like ultimately there was a right and a wrong there and she she knows that and she came out and said that finally but again she knew the risks she ran by doing something which is he's gonna fight with her dad in that documentary. I'm going to do it, dad. And they're like, they're just the, the money they see like flying out of their pockets.

Like that, that was, it's, it's a lot of money at stake and people aren't willing to take that risk. I do love though, that what you said about how we don't need her to be dating around and holding hands with a new guy. And like, I'm happy with her, like off in a cabin with Joe on like these hikes, how we don't need her to be dating around and holding hands with a new guy and like

i'm happy with her like off in a cabin with joe on like these hikes these like private hikes i like that i don't know anything about the relationship i only have a little bit of footage to analyze i don't need that from her it's not part of it for me yeah which i do over and over but and i love the yeah i'm just like happy that she's happy I want them to last I want them to work out and the fact that she's able to write songs like heartbreak songs just as well like which is what she said in the tiny desk concert about death by a thousand

cuts like I'm happy so can I still write breakup songs and so she just reads a book about a breakup and she's so she soaks up so much feeling that she can just put that into a song and the fucking Betty August cardigan trilogy like that whole story she soaks up so much feeling that she can just put that into a song and the fucking betty august uh cardigan trilogy like that whole story like who knew who knew a year ago that she was capable i mean i knew she would be but i didn't even know i wanted that from her i was kind of mad when i

heard it was like characters and not her and then they're my it's my favorite thing she's ever done maybe yeah yeah that that triptych of songs yeah because it is like because the details just being in the easter eggs in each thing i'm like oh that that's that isptych of songs. Yeah. Cause it is like, cause the details just being in the Easter eggs and each thing I'm like, Oh, that's, that is actually genius. Genius. Just that like that she was able to make you empathize with each character

in it and know the victim was always, or the person that was, you, you just made you this love triangle seem, I don't know. It was just, no one was the villain and it was all, and they were all so,

and they all actually are kind of the same song. It's just, it's, she's, she's masterful. Masterful. And so, but I feel that now we've got a very good sense of the culture you are

currently consuming and has made you the person you are today. But we have to ask the question, which is the central cornerstone question of Las Culturistas, which is Nikki Glaser. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you i.e. what this means is what was the pop culture that entered your life and you're like you can pinpoint now looking back that was the moment I changed and I can see myself now as the person I am that's where my that's where I came from it was there's so many things in my head right now

but I have to go with my initial okay friends was mine when I found friends I was like when I heard Taylor say how many cameras were on you that kind of joke of like the camera had 10 bells well how many cameras were on you I just remember that joke is like that is so

funny and then Jennifer Aniston just like I whatever that is so funny and then jennifer aniston just like i want whatever that is i'm gonna be it like i want that and then like going after it forever but in terms of like comedy wise like feeling like oh my god this is for me and no it's i've never that's when i became friends is when i became obsessed with being like being famous like being on tv right but comedy wise like Conan was the first time I go what the fuck like that is this is special and weird in a way that I didn't I didn't know anyone else wanted to laugh at stuff like this and I just felt it felt I was obsessed I was in high school I was obsessed with Dave Matthews and Conan O'Brien so that was the major one for me it was the 10 it was a 5 year

anniversary special of Conan that my dad showed to me on VHS and he recorded it and was like Nick I think you'll like this and I was like and my friends and I became just obsessed with that and just the weird just the weirdness of it it was like you know

it was like Tim and Eric before Tim it really was avant-garde comedy. And like, and like you've been in, like you have this friendship with him now. And like what, like what, like that's probably surreal.

Like it has. And that like, does that make the influence even like stronger for you? Because yeah. Yeah. I think so. Like it's hard because I, it's hard being I it's hard

being friends with someone you like that much or like I can't even say I'm friends with him he would probably we've done enough podcasting and like been on this show enough that we have a rapport but I always black out when I'm talking to him like I would imagine yeah like I I really can't keep it cool and I always

have to just tell him what he means to me because he's just so self-deprecating like I need him to know like that he's the funniest person in the world and I've awarded him that and there's no debate and it's the he is it and so I just spend a lot of time just like you know just telling how much

I love him and it's like we can't really get much done sometimes so some I feel annoying to him sometimes I don't even I don't want to know my heroes I i can't handle sometimes it's better to not and and i'm not not because they like i'll just say so the person that this was for me growing up was margaret cho and so when we we early on in doing this podcast got the opportunity to go interview margaret cho and we went up from from from new york to nyack where she was doing a show and we went in her hotel room and we were interviewing her and it's it you could tell it's early for us because

we're so nervous and i'm telling you i was obsessed she saved my life when i was like when i was in middle school so bowen will tell you i was i was pacing in the lobby nervous i was like rearranging the chairs i was like we have i was i couldn't believe it i was just margaret show just means so much to me and so we got there and i the interview was going okay and there were because we were young and i i don't think we could really relate to her yet and so i not that we ever could but like i i could tell listening back i only ever listened to it once it's kind of like that teller stuff comment for you it's like okay i know we corresponded and then i'm moving on but yeah there was a point in the interview where i told her what she meant to me and she kind of was like oh thanks that's nice and then i remember being like i

remember i had the impetus to be like no but do people tell you that like do do you hear that is that something that you know that you you're hearing your voice and your comedy made people feel seen to a point where like it really mattered? And she was like and I get her boyfriend Rocco was there at the time to doing the interview as well. And he was looking at her like I could tell he was telling her like absorb this absorb this like it's okay to absorb this. And she was just like it's really nice that you say that. And we kind of moved on. But it's interesting that you say that because I had that too. Like, when someone is, you know, you could tell trained to be a little self-deprecating or just be like, no, I'm actually not shit, whatever, move on.

It's like, no, you are. You are. You are. You are. You are. And if I can, like. I'm not wrong. I'm right.

I know. And I want you to know, like, I am. It is not up for debate. Like, you are? And if I can like, I'm not wrong. I know. And I want you to know, like I am, it is not up for debate. Like you are, please know this. And you try to, and it's almost like,

because you're talking to yourself. Cause you know, that feeling of someone you guys have, have met people that just are so excited to meet you. They're shaking, crying. Like you mean so much, you know?

And it's hard. It's hard to take that in because you're like, I'm just a person. I just took a shit. Like, I know that like, or, you know, and it's hard. It's hard to take that in because you're like, I'm just a person. I just took a shit. Like I know that like, or, you know, like I just, you just feel like you're, but it's, it's just hard to hear compliments and not go like, like you just want to push away. So I understand that. But I also want so desperately for, for him to under, to know it because they deserve

to. And because we're not wrong. We're, we're so smart that we it because uh they deserve to and because we're not wrong we're so smart that we like them and they need to know that we're like not just any of any fan we are we like know our shit yeah and we like 100 but i think conan's the type of person to like accept that better than better than others right like i i don't know i don't know i feel like he he goes oh that's very nice. That's really, you know, like it's, it's, he wants to move on. He's very uncomfortable with compliments and that's why I feel bad because I can't help it and I make him uncomfortable.

Yeah. Like he doesn't like it. Sure. Why do I continue doing this? No, but it's, it's, it's actually because like I always, all right, this is crazy. I'll be vulnerable about, I'll be vulnerable about this. Like if I ever have a situation where I'm on Kelly Clarkson's talk show, they shouldn't let me on because i'll sit down and it'll be a thing of like i'll hyperventilate like it it will go viral because it's like crazed faggot makes himself like like full spectacle on

kelly clarkson show like it will be bad for whatever i'm promoting like it will it won't be good because like i associate with her her with a time I needed her so badly and I my love for her has never waned to the point where it's like I don't see a world where I could be normal talking to her yeah so to have that person and to have a relationship with that person is like it's crazy yeah I I as you're talking I'm thinking of meeting Taylor Swift and it's just, it wouldn't go. It would,

I've met her before, before I was obsessed. And right now it just wouldn't, I met Dave Matthews once and it didn't go well. I, it was that Matt, I just like really embarrassed myself. And,

and this was a couple of years ago when I really had enough accomplishments to be like, I deserve to meet you. You know, like this was my goal was to get it. I even said that to him. I'm like, you're the reason I even do comedy because I wanted be like, I deserve to meet you. This was my goal was to get in. I even said that to him. I'm like, you're the reason I even do comedy because I wanted to get into your sphere so I could meet you.

And I use the word sphere a lot. Really like bother. It was such a weird, like it was the, there was a whole other thing that happened before that, but I was really embarrassing. I wasn't cool. I don't want to meet him again. Like it's not, it's not a good look.

It doesn't, it's not worth it. Like I, I can't, I can't be myself. I will never be myself in front of those people, but you got to get like Kelly Clarkson. I mean,

I feel like we clip this and send this. I'm going to send this to a producer there because you, that has to happen. They want that. That would be, I know that's like good for what they do. Like the thing is like, she would make you feel comfortable. She would make you feel comfortable. I mean, Bowen, you'll be, you for what they do. Like the thing is like, she would make you feel comfortable.

She would make you feel comfortable. I mean, Bowen, you'll be, you'll be on it. Like, well, I mean,

just like, I was like a gay kid, closeted kid in like sixth grade when she was on American Idol. And I just remember I was just so, when America fell in love with her for being herself, that I kind of said to myself, I was like, well,

maybe one day people will like me for being myself. And I really, I was, it was, I was like, well, maybe one day people will like me for being myself. And I really, I was, I, it was, it was like, it was just hard. It was like a time where I was realizing I was something that, um, no one aspired to be. It was like very much that time of like gay was the worst thing you could say at someone I'm from Long Island. It's very toxic. And so just to see someone be so obviously themselves and like be beloved because they were a good person and talented i was just like well at least i know it's possible that like someone could fall in love with you just because you're you and i i think oh just throughout my life like um i've always listened to her music to comfort me and I also do think she reminds me

of a younger version of my mother to be honest with you in terms of her energy and the way she looks so there's something there but yeah I mean like it's just that's what it is and we actually like I went to her show I've seen her live 11 times Bowen and I went to the view one time because she

was on it that's a whole thing when Joel Kim Booster was on Kelly Clarkson he's one of my best friends like I went in the audience and like I was taking pictures of him I put a picture of Joel Kim Kelly and Jennifer Hudson on my grid because it was one of the best days of my life like I went back to say hi to him after I

couldn't have run out faster because I thought he was trying to like punk me and have her come in I was like gotta go it was like oh my god you really don't want it yeah yeah no well i know bowen's gonna be on it like any day soon and i'm just gonna not be able to watch so yeah bowen's gonna do kelly clarkson any day wait any day wait wait wait what were you on that you got to go that you put on your grid what was that so it was when joel kim was on kelly clarkson to promote sunny side i went as his guest in the audience and i was but you didn't get to go backstage no i did

get to go backstage and i said you bolted it out of there and i thought he was trying to like pull one on me and i i think he might have been because i'm telling you i went back there hugged him said you were so good babe i'm out and so i'm i like i could not have ran out faster because i was like interesting it would have been so like him no i i do want to meet her i just but not those circumstances like i not not backstage at her show because my friend is on the show you know what i mean like it has to be like a thing like where i have i'm meeting her with intention at this point because i have to get my thoughts together. Like it can't be a surprise. It's Kelly thing because it won't be cute.

You know what I mean? I completely agree. And I did. That's what happened with Dave Matthews. I had a chance to meet him and I took it and I wish I wouldn't have just because it wasn't the circumstance under which I was able to express how much he meant to me. I went to a listening. I was invited to like a listening session where you sit in a room at Sirius XM because I was a I had a radio show there that you were both on. Right.

But when did you ever come into it? Yeah. Yeah. I think we did. And Matt, you came in separately. And I was on with Leah Lamar. Yeah. Yes, that's right.

OK. Love her. So love, love. Sorry that night. She's so great um so i i got asked to do a like go to a listening party where literally dave mathis just sits in a room with like 10 people from serious that somehow finagle a ticket to this room and he presses play on a thing like you just listen to it with him like he's not playing it you're just like listening to it so it's like you're in

a it's awkward and it's new album and you just like sit there and like, like bop your head in this like kind of cold conference room with, and you know, Baba Booey from Howard Stern was there and it was,

I was excited to be there, but like, I am looking at Dave Matthews, like leg, like, like his, his denim knee, just being like,

that's his knee. Like I thought about that. Like, it's just like, I can't believe, I've thought about that knee. I am, I am putting my, I am like trying to be on my best behavior, even though like he doesn just like, I can't. I've thought about that. I am.

I am like trying to be on my best behavior, even though like he doesn't know. I haven't met him yet. I think I took a picture. I think I took a picture of them and it was quick and I didn't have time to like say the whole thing. So it's just like, and my face is disgusting. It's like unpostable,

even though it's the best moment of my life because I couldn't keep my face together. And then I'm in this listening session and i'm keeping my energy like i am really holding it together but not well it's like just like almost boiling out of me but i'm just trying to be very cool and like not black out and then he gets to a part where it's like wrapping up and he's like he's like okay we only have time for one more song like you guys want to hear something soft and sweet or do you want to hear something a little funky and i was like finally answers the question i'm like funky like i like my voice i said it so loud that everyone jumped and then he played something soft and sweet and i swear to god he like ignored it and like and

it was right in front of him was like four feet away so it was like funky and i thought he was gonna be like yeah i like word funky so close to him. Oh my God. And everyone be literally Baba Booey from Howard Stern. Like Gary DelBatte slowly put his hand on my shoulder. Like, oh, you need to get it together. Like, this is embarrassing. Like that was weird for everyone.

And I'm not someone who ever wants to make anyone. I want to be like, I don't want you to notice me unless I'm making you like happy. And so for me, like the object of like, oh it was so huge in front of the person i love the most and it was all just like it just i thought i thought he was gonna be like this girl's cool and she like like what's your deal what's your story funky like and then he's like then he plays a song he wrote about like mass shootings i mean it shootings. I mean, it was not a good moment. Decisively not funky. You are going to have a

redemptive interaction with him, I think. You really will. I'm the voice of DMB Radio on SiriusXM. So when you listen to Channel 30... He's got to know about you. I'm sure he's aware. I am in the sphere as I let him know. After I said funky, that's when I

went after him, waited for him outside the room and was like, hey, I'm a comedian. I'm really sorry. I was just like, I just have to say a bunch of things. How much you mean to me? Sphere, sphere, sphere. And he was just like, oh, okay. And backed away, very scared. I saw actual fear. This girl is unhinged

in his eyes. And I'm not. I just couldn't control it. And it wasn't the right time. That would have been funny on camera with like a big, like to do like, like if you went on the Kelly Clarkson show, Matt, and had that moment,

it had that around it, it would be appropriate, but this was just so uncomfortable. It's funny that you mentioned serious because they got at when serious, like finally did when Kelly finally did Howard Howard Stern, I did the after show. So I was there in the building going on. You were on the floor. On the after show right after she was leaving Howard.

And I'm telling you, I had the opportunity because she was coming out and I was sitting there in the lobby in New York and I was about to go in. Tears started coming to my eyes and I couldn't go over. I was just like I was like I can't because I had to go be on the show. So I was like I'm not going to walk in there the first time I meet fucking you know all these guys like that I've listened to forever like because I love Howard. Yeah. Like I'm not going to go in there and be like crying. Oh my God. I was like I have to be good and have it together for the kelly episode of this show and like not be a flop but i'm telling you like i've had so many chances to like kind of go

up there and be like hi i just wanted to tell you i'm such a big fan you mean so much to me and i've just like i literally i start to lose it every time so i i bowen do you have the who's this for you he's cool he's cool as a cucumber though but no not really not really i mean it happened with tina and that's kind of like a really yeah that's that's kind of like a it's such a it's such a complicated thing but it was it happened with tina and um and at one point when i was shooting girls 5 evan in january like matt reddicker our friend who wrote on this episode that I did, was like, by the way Tina and Jeff were coming into the studio, they want to say hi. And I was like,

okay, cool. And then I just spun out in my room for like 20 minutes and then they finally invite me to set and I'm like, okay, I guess I'm going to run into her on the floor. That's maybe even better so that like she just sees me like in my element or whatever. And then she just left. I in, in my element or whatever. And then she just left and she just left.

I feel like, but then before that, it was when I did the Kimmy Schmidt movie and she came over and she just like checked and I completely blacked out and it was the most meaningless interaction to her probably ever. But then she mentioned me in an interview recently where she talked about the iceberg. I think she loves you,

Beau. I think that's why you get asked to be on her shows. But I, but I think I have to like keep this Beau. I think that's why you get asked to be on her shows and stuff. But I think I have to keep this distance that I have not created, but that's just been very... Just through happenstance has been... That's been what's calibrated.

And I'm like, I can't actually get that much closer to you on a personal level because otherwise it will stress me out. You know? Yes. It won't. And you won't remember it. Like you'll just it won't go well. So you have to

keep away. But to hear your name come out of her mouth, isn't that wild and such like. It's so weird. I don't even know that. I don't even know that it's exciting to me. It's mostly just bizarre and I'm like, whoa. And it means that she's like watching. You know that it's exciting to me. It's mostly just bizarre. And I'm like, whoa.

And it means that she's like watching, you know, it's like, it's all this other stuff comes in and I'm like, God, damn, damn, damn. This is actually really fucking bizarre.

But then, but, but my Conan thing is my freshman year after high school, we could be came to New York city to look at colleges with my sister for my sister. And then the, the one fun thing we did in New York was to take the 30 rock studio tour. And it was the summer.

So we knew SNL was out, was out. But then I asked, I was like, is Conan doing a show this week? They go, no, the pages go,

no, but we still went to this. And I was actually more excited to be on the sixth floor, wherever Conan studio was. Then I was to go to eight H cause it was just like Conan there. And you saw like, like Max Weinberg's drum, like drum set, like, like, and it was just like Conan there and you saw like Max Weinberg's drum and I was just like I something about

Conan like staying up past Leno like suffering through Leno in order to watch Conan was like such an important ritual for me as a kid and like it did like inform my whole sensibility I think absolutely because it was weird shit it

was so weird and funny oh my god it took it made it okay to just take some real swings you know and they had misses early on but nothing nothing ever missed for me because i was just a kid and like it was just just to take those to have a masturbating bear to have all those like silly things that like maybe now wouldn't hold up as much but like back then i was like what the fuck is happening that was so i loved i love hearing about like you're right it's like watching conan and is why who i am and that's what i told him the first time i met him i go you're why i do this like you made this and he was just it was because it's true but to matt to hear you say that kelly clarkson like helped you like process that and like feel like maybe there was a chance like when i see when i watch the billy eilish documentary and i see girls like being like i'd be dead without you billy like

i'm always go yeah really you'd be and i i actually feel i've i've i never related to that as like a young girl so i think that that's why i look at that and i go what is that young girl saying i would have but as a as an adult woman like i do feel that way about taylor swift like i would have a lot of part of her of a time accepting myself and like getting to the who i am now with my self-esteem and like what i want and how i want to like uh how i want to feel and what's okay to feel because of her like I really would be a different person without her and I'm proud to be a someone that is that impacted by people I don't know by art I like it's not I don't I am not ashamed of being uh just like a stan and it it makes me feel 14 again like caring about this loving being a fan that hard and being obsessive which is like something that

i've always been in my life like i like that it doesn't go away as as an adult because it makes me feel young like the excitement it's a way to keep in touch with the inner child and that is important and and so many times uh that comes under attack you know especially like in an ugly world you know what i mean like in a world that's like dark and i i that's something that i mean i mean i think that's one one reason why we still love doing the podcast so much because we this podcast can be a celebration of like loving what we love um and so that's why i like to have conversations like i know that bone and i like love to have conversations like the one we just had because it's a it's a place to come here and not feel like you have to be like well my guilty pleasure is no it's like there's no guilt no that's that's never the frame

never and it's just it's that's there's not a lot of space spaces for that and that's when i do look for other swifties and i wear a lot of swift merchandise not because and t-shirts not because i'm like want to promote her but because i like want to find other Swifties it's like I'm peacocking for friends because I'm like I want more people in my life like I would when I look for like a boyfriend I'm like I really need you to like Taylor Swift like I don't want you to just tolerate it I will play that song

to make you get through your feelings of tolerating Taylor Swift and maybe you'll start to like her because she'll help you with process those feelings that you're feeling when you let me listen to Cruel Summer on repeat but it's best song on best song on lover I mean we never got our Cruel Summer video and I'm still waiting we never did I will say I had an I had an ex that I have one ex that's a full Swifty and like way even beyond me or maybe even anyone here which was crazy and then another ex and another

ex who didn't like her because he thought that um her he didn't he didn't connect to lyrics he likes he like the melodies weren't interesting enough and he quote unquote didn't connect to lyrics and i was like i think this might be a deal breaker for us i was like i don't understand that ideology yeah you know you actively don't understand that ideology. Yeah. You know what I mean? If you actively don't like Taylor Swift, it would never work with us. Also in that category,

Veep, Veep is another show that if you can't, if you don't like Veep, if you haven't, and I understand if you haven't seen it, but if you watch it and you're not into it,

it's, no, I wouldn't, I'd be more, I'd be more likely to date a guy that like wanted kids and I don't want kids than be more, I'd be more likely to date a guy that like wanted kids. And I don't want kids. Then I would.

We can work through that. That's a first date conversation. I'm like, I really do have it on. I used to put it on a dating profile of like, just if you, it just cuts the, it cuts the people out of my life.

I don't want totally. And that's the thing that like TV and music, I get Taylor Swift is such a personal thing that it's okay if you don't like her but if you if you're like bothered and like oh nikki's doing singing again because my roommate andrew he he's told people like like on our podcast you all think that nikki's like a fan of taylor swift shocks but you have no idea what it's like to live with someone like that this is all she and that's part of that is like i'm trying to learn her songs on guitar so i'm playing them over and over all the time but um yeah she's major part of my life she's she's she's folded into every aspect of it yes but same here for us

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really come for something in pop culture that we're not as happy with as, say, Taylor Swift. In fact, we're so unhappy that we say, I don't think so, honey, name of thing. I do have one, Bowen, and it is interesting. It's in the world of music as well, pop music even. Okay, all right, this is huge. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey

as time starts now. I don't think so, honey, whatever bullshit is going on that keeps little mix from happening in america because little mix is churning out bops bop after bop and i don't know what this dark magic is i don't know whatever what's going on behind the scenes that keep them from black off in america black magic even because let me tell you something that's confetti featuring saweetie oh my god the girls have never been stronger and let me tell you something also i love that song. Confetti featuring Saweetie. Oh my God. The girls have never been stronger. And let me tell you something also. I don't think so, honey, any Jesse haters,

especially when you call yourself a little mixed man. If you're a little mixed man, you support Jesse and you want the best for Jesse and you understand why Jesse, it's fine that she goes and makes new music

and had nothing to do with that, her leaving the group. That's a sidebar. I don't think so, honey. Whatever is going on. Shout out to my ex should have been a huge hit. Holiday should have been a huge hit holiday should have been a huge hit sweet melody i don't understand why it's not number one in america what is going on is the payola scheme you have to ask this

question i don't think so honey whoever is handling them maybe they knew new people to handle in america because they are bops on bops on bops they've never been stronger as a trio listen to acoustic version of confetti now i don't think so honey and that's one minute wow amazing incredible i mean they are they have never they've never been better and they i will say everyone is healthier as a result of the recent change with jesse leaving we support jesse but i am a little mixed stan i'm a mixer and i have to say i want them bigger than they are in america i want to hear them on the radio there's some value though and and and just like a group being niche in a way like kylie minnow gave up on on being like big in america like decades ago and i think she's been fine and the and us americans who do love kylie just make it it feels like it's our little our little not, but it's like, oh, she's for us and she's not for the general pop of the USA.

You know, I think what bothers me is what they want it. They want it. I know. But at some point they might not want it if it doesn't work out. Little Mix Black Magic is such a bop. It is so good. It's about eating pussy. It's so good. It's about eating pussy. It's so good.

Do you feel this way? It is. It is about eating pussy. It's about, it's about like, I have like, like eat my pussy. Take a sip of my secret potion.

Like it's, it's get on your, get on the floor. It's all about, uh, go down on me. For me, it was like,

yes, yes. Go down. Well, now we're sort of in, i feel like we're in a revolution of you know women being like no go down on me like it's it's i mean like in the past 10 years i feel like we've now gotten like nikki minaj single-handedly is has now changed at all i mean now fucking getting your ass ate is is like normal gen z is really it Gen Z is... I know, that really... That's huge. That's first base.

It's huge. Truly, it's first base. Ass-eating is first base. Rural culture number 33. Ass-eating is first base. Now, Bowen Yang, we have your I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready to go? This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now.

I Don't Think So Honey, we're rebooting Dan Brown book adaptations. There are so many things wrong with this. First of all, how are you going to replace Tom Hanks in anything? Right? Tom Hanks. Second of all, it's like rebooting this series that no

one actually really cares about. It just makes no sense to me, right? There's no sentimental capital thing to like grow from that and it hasn't even been that long since the last one i have no real comedic take on this it's just but like it feels like rebooting like let's say i don't know i don't i can't come up with an example that doesn't shut on the actual example for being canceled you know what i mean or for being like something that nobody cares about but it's like it's like rebooting um mr and mrs smith we we know what it is no people love mr and

mrs smith though but it's like rebooting like it's like it's like rebooting like grounded for life like a solid sitcom that a solid sitcom that not enough people cared about it's like i loved grounded for life by the way that's one do of them. Do we remember Grounded for Life? Oh, yeah. That guy. It was great. That guy. I thought it was really funny.

I didn't know they were doing this. It's like sexy Robert Langdon. It's like they're doing the Da Vinci Code stuff. They're not doing the Da Vinci Code, but they're doing the newer books or the prequels. And anyway, I just read about this in Walter and it made me mad. Okay.

That's my little niche thing. Nikki, do you have something that you'd like to talk yeah i think i do i think i can fill 60 seconds i just came up with one and um okay yeah i i think i got one okay this is nikki glazers i don't think so honey her time starts now okay i don't think so honey um banking on olivia munn and john mulaney's saying together i like actually investing in this relationship. Like, Oh, I'm so glad they're together. I think it is. I don't,

I don't know if anything, I'm actually friends with John. I actually, I don't think so. Honey of like commenting on this at all. I feel like we should just let it do, do what it's going to do and not, not even speculate,

just run its course. But you know, it's like, it's all anyone I know wants to talk about. And I want to, I don't think so. I don't think so. Honey, I don't want to like get into it I just wanted to go away it reminds me

of Pete Davidson and Ariana Grande which I did love that like love bombing that happened and I wanted that so bad but I just I'm speculative of the circumstances I want to know so much but I don't think so honey it's none of my business I'm out and that's 45 seconds and we would respect

yes I have nothing else to say because I have, there's nothing I want to say. It's not, it's he, he is someone I know and I don't want to gossip about it. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to comment on it. We let's just let it go.

It's going to, it's, but it's, it can't last. You're saying, you're saying with, with, with the initial,

I don't think so. Honey, you're saying, and I don't, you don't have to elaborate on this. I'm just want to, I just want to help you sort of summarize this. You're saying,

I don't think so so any banking on this relationship because it's like the fact that we are invested as like a culture in this relationship is not the thing we're projecting everything about j-lo and ben onto millennium olivia we have we have transferred that because we have given up on we have given up on a benefit because it seems like they hung out maybe got on a plane together but there hasn't been much left and now we want this we're like this is exciting yeah it's it's it let's just let's just leave it

alone let's just let's just I I we we can respect that I mean I'm sure the three of us individually have our thoughts on this that we can share offline oh absolutely I'm like we can share offline? Oh, absolutely. I'm like, we can get Olivia, but like I'm always love a Jenny Slate Chris Evans.

Like I love any comedian. Sure. Really dating a very, very hot person. Chuckle fucker. Yeah. Yes. And make it chuckle fuckers can be so hot. It's actually rule of culture. Number 57 chuckle fuckers can be so hot. So whenever whenever anyone is talking to me and i genuinely

feel like they're out of my league i'm always like what but what and then i remember no chuckle fuckers can be this hot no but they always want to start a podcast with me they don't want to they don't want to fuck me they always want to like have me on theirs or like start talking about oh yeah like they want to know like how to start doing stand-up like i get that a lot and then i've been misled a lot by really hot guys i'm like you're out of my league like sometimes i'll match with a guy in raya this is no joke i match with a guy on raya who is a pop star sensation like i am huge pop star and i he's young too it was a night where i like made my Raya settings like there. And so, so I, so, so, so I, cause my set, I did, I never go that low. I don't know what, like I was, I, one night I must've been real horny and been like, I

deserve a young guy. So I matched with this like guy and i'm like oh and he messaged me right away you're the goat and i'm like fuck okay i thought i had no no i thought i know you you know what that he's a fan he saw my roast clips recently he's a child writing me you're the goat and then he did a goat emoji and i go you know thank you and then he's like will you roast me and i was like because all my friends were like he likes you and I go no no no guys he's a little fan and they were like no he wants like that moment no

and so I sent him a roast joke about him and then he was just like oh my god fuck I've never even thought about my last name like that and I'm just like and that's all he wrote and that was the last interaction so I get that a lot but you know on face value like this pop star that people,

that, that people like, um, telling you that he's a fan, that he admires your work. That's something. It's awesome. It actually does feel great.

But the context is shitty because, um, the, the, the, the setting is shitty because God, like Matt's gotten this too. I think I,

the worst is when it's like one, multiple guys on Grindr being like, this is the summer, they're like would you mind reading my packet for SNL? Insane. And I was just like, you gotta actually go to prison on the moon or something because

how dare you? You need to go to that jail in the Marvel Universe that's in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. That's where you gotta go. You gotta go to the Harry Potter jail, Azkaban with the Demet that's in the middle of the ocean. Yeah. You gotta go to the Harry Potter jail. Azkaban. And I used to have a joke about it. I was like, I don't want you to respect me comedically. I don't want any guy to be like, I'm such

a fan. I want you to disrespect me sexually. I want you to like... It's a different energy. I am a guy that's a fan of mine. I don't think I'm ever... I want, obviously, my partner to appreciate what I do and know that I'm good at it and be like, wow, she's impressive mine, I don't think I'm ever, I want my, obviously my partner to appreciate what I do and know that I'm good at it and be like, wow, she's impressive. But I don't want that to make them horny.

Like I want to make a guy horny by being like, I'm like a little, I'm like a soft lady. And like, I'm just like need nurturing. I don't want them to be like, you just owned that mic. I'm like, gross. Ew. No, all they should do is get it. They have to get it. They understand it. They have to get it they understand it and then get it fuck the

shit out of you yeah yeah 100 yes well i mean you're well on your way because i'm very happy to say we are the podcast that introduced nikki glazer to poppers oh my god what an honor this is huge we're gonna send you our merch which is we're gonna give you a Taylor Swift sweatshirt yes thank you so you have stuff coming in the mail oh thank you and everyone out there

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you're one of the best doing it we have been fans for many many years so likewise and it's like I'm just so like it's truly it's like when Charlie Puth DM'd me like the fact that you guys like me I'm like that is cool that is really cool that you

that someone that talented likes me it means a lot oh Oh, my God. Wow. Well, you know, and Nikki, feel free to join in with us right now. But, you know, we end every episode with a song. And I feel like it's got to be Tay. Do we have? This is for the best.

My reputation has never been worse. So you must like me for me. You can't make any promises now that you can't make Any promises now Can't be made But you can make me To listen to the rest of that Listen to Reputation

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