Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “FUSSY. FINISHED.” (w/ Kathryn Hahn)

Episode Date: September 18, 2024

Who’s that brightening up everything? It’s been Kathryn Hahn ALL ALONG, baby! And Matt & Bowen are tickled to talk to her on the day of Agatha All Along’s release on Disney+! They chat needing to keep secrets amidst “theory televison”, Agatha being a top, singing with Patti LuPone and having “concepts of a plan”. Also, Step Brothers, Revolutionary Road, club-hopping in Cleveland, Planet Hollywood and Hard Rock Cafe’s historical artifacts, the Agatha walking around Disneyland and being an overall witchy person. All this, ITALY, Techno, Björk, “hard, dumb rock”, BERLIN, churros, SUFFS: The Musical, Chimp Crazy, tip screen drama, how awful it is when glass breaks and butt implants. It’s Kathryn Hahn!!!! Come ON! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let's do it. Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness.

Wow. Lost Culturistas. Ding dong. Lost Culturistas calling. Now, Bowen already popped his DC open But I'm gonna do it now There we go The sound of heaven

We can't have too many Intro things Intro things It gets too fussy It's too much As we said a few seconds ago Too much housekeeping And you don't like fuss

I don't like muss or fuss Period That's actually rule of culture number six Bowen Yang He don't like muss or fuss What number is that? I thought six he don't like muss or fuss. What number is that? I thought six.

Six. Wasn't it six? I think so. Great. I just want to say, girl, put your purples on. Okay,

BTS. I called Bowen about an hour ago and I'm in a panic and I say, I really would like to wear purple for the episode. You'll find out why.

He raises a shirt on FaceTime. It's of Lisa Barlow. What is it? It's Lisa Barlow saying what? It was Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City Housewives saying, I purple for the episode. You'll find out why. He raises a shirt on FaceTime. It's of Lisa Barlow. What is it? It's Lisa Barlow saying what? It was Lisa Barlow from Salt Lake City Housewives saying, I feel for me too. It is my favorite shirt that I own. I really wanted to wear it today if it had been purple, but it didn't go with my rubric for today

in my mind. I thought a great pop star had passed away or something. The look on your face was telegraphing. Like we're commemorating. Yeah. I just thought it would be a really good episode to wear purple. And then I realized my color blindness, my affliction, my

handicap was so bad that I literally had to turn the phone around and we had to go through every shirt in my closet and I said, is this purple? Is this purple? Because I can't for the life of me tell what is the difference between blue and purple. We picked out a Lakers jersey, as you can see,

if you're watching the video. Did you know what's even better? And we didn't even talk about this. Do you want to know why this is extra iconic? Do you know whose jersey this is? I don't. Magic. Oh my God.

Johnson's jersey. No kidding. Number 32. I should know that. A female stylist that was, okay, so shout out to Melissa Lehman. We went thrift shopping and I saw this

jersey and I've never really been a jersey person but you know this is our big year of sports. We went to the US Open. I gave Sinner a high five. Yannick Sinner a high five. It was so, the cameras got it. They got it. It was on broadcast. So then I'm like, you know what?

Let's get the jersey because A, I liked the way it looked. These actually are my high school colors, purple and gold. Shout out to the Buccaneers, ISAP High School. You know who you are. Buccaneers were purple and yellow.

They were purple and yellow. Okay. But I liked it because it was sort of queer coded. And I do believe that Buccaneer is the gay word for pirate. For pirate. And I think that's a rule of culture

that we've said. 12. Buccaneer is the gay word for pirate. For pirate. And I think that's a rule of culture that we've said. 12. Buccaneer is the gay word for pirate. But now I'm going to ask a potentially ableist question. Well, as long as you acknowledge that it's potentially ableist up top, we know we're all learning here. Can you appreciate purple without knowing what it is? Yes, because can I tell you what my eye does see is so happy.

Oh, yeah. What my eye does see is so happy. Oh yeah. What my eye does see is so happy. That might not syntactically work. You know, our guest in the first episode of Agatha All Along, which if you're listening to this on the day of the drop of this episode is now out September 18th on Disney Plus.

And it's so much fun. It's so good, so much fun. She says, let me get my purples. And I went, ooh yeah. Get my purple back. Get my purple back. In a face-off with Aubrey, who I texted you. I he went, Ooh, yeah, get my purple back. Let me get my purple back in a face off with Aubrey, who I texted you.

I was like, Aubrey fucking crushes. But here's the thing. You watch the show. Yeah. It's moan worthy. By the way, I cannot believe that she's here.

We're getting to it. The whole cast is amazing. When Patti LuPone turns her ass around and looks at, at first of all, anyone or anything, you're like, dear God, dear God, dear God. You just love it. You're like, dear God. Dear God.

You just love it. It makes you think she has not done this. She needs to do this more. Like her on camera is so powerful in a way that like, obviously on stage,

it's amazing. But like, you want to see her on screen more. You just, you just need it. Well, if you have that same feeling

as Bowen Yang, you're so in luck because it's not just Patty. It's our guest. It's Aubrey. It's Sasheer, our old friend. Joe Locke. A hundred percent.

Yeah. Yeah. Really, really loving his performance. We've seen the first two. It's so good. You've seen the first two or three? I'm on three. And three is when it gets fun.

Because they gave us four. Three is. Which was generous. Very generous. Especially of Marvel. Famously, the lips are tight. But yeah, we have our purple on to honor Agatha. By the way, we've played this game before.

You can play this game with your friends. It's the girl game. Someone just has to say, girl, and then another person has to complete the song. It can be put your records on. It can be so confusing sometimes. It can be, I can tell you've been crying but needing somebody to talk to. What are you getting at with this one? I'm just saying there's a new addition with Girl So Confusing sometimes. It can be, I can tell you've been crying but needing somebody to talk to. What are you getting at with this one? I'm just saying there's a new addition

with Girls So Confusing. Yes, you're so right. That was a tange. That was a tange. And then it's spooky season, which is a great occasion for Agatha all along for you to watch. It's also stooky season.

It's stew season. I call it stooky season. He loves stew. And we're in it. That's the binary. I'm soup. You're stew. That's what makes the podcast great. And what makes the podcast great today is our guest. Oh, I mean, the legend of all legends

truly one of the talents. I can't even look at her. No, it's humiliating. So here's the deal. We actually recently in Fire Island watched Step Brothers. Where was the Oscar for Catherine Hahn in Step Brothers? Where was the Oscar for? It's better than any performance that's won an Oscar. Period.

I remember being in the theater in school. I bet you just screamed. I was like, who the fuck is that? Well, let me tell you something. You actually knew who it was. Because of Anchorman, because of Crossing Jordan. Because of this line. Eh, ne, eh, nga.

How to lose a guy. Come on. I mean, the iconography sense. We have to bring her in. Everyone like, come on, please.

Welcome into your ears. The limitless. Hello. Hello. Hello. This is major. No. Major laser for us. This is majorino for us.

Major laser for us. This is my absolute honor. No. Listen, no fuss, no muss with me. No fuss, no muss. Yeah, no, we can tell you're not fussy. Did you ever see the, oh, on Zip, the, I think it was the Mizrahi documentary where Polly Mellon goes, fussy finished.

No. Yes. But that's wordsellon goes, Fussy finished. No. Yes. But that's words to live by. Fussy finished. Fussy finished is a front runner for title of this episode. I think so. Fussy finished.

Fussy finished. Yeah. Mizrahi documentary highlights. Isaac Mizrahi. Oh, have you never seen it? I've never seen it. Oh, it's worth it. Okay.

Sandra Bernhardt's in it. Oh, this is back in the day. Yeah, this is about 15 years ago. I feel some Sandra Bernhardt in you.. This is back in the day. This is about 15 years ago. I feel some Sandra Bernhardt in you. Oh my God. Spiritually connected. I would love it. I'm telling you.

I just saw King of Comedy and I was like, who is that? How does she do it? She's so beautiful in the strangest way. She's insane. And she's the same edge that she has always. She doesn't give a fuck. She's insane. And she's the same edge

that she has always. Like she doesn't give a fuck. Fuss finished. What is it? Fussy finished? Fussy finished. No, it's fuss finished. Fuss finished.

Fuss finished. Fuss finished. Fuh finished. Fuh finished. Any and all. All of the above. Any and all. We fucking love the new show.

It's so good. I am so psyched that you've seen any of it. Yeah, no. Any and all. We fucking love the new show. It's so good. I am so psyched that you've seen any of it. Yeah, no, it's great. I am so excited for you to see the rest. Oh, yeah. I'm manifesting it building towards a little something something and if it doesn't happen, that's fine. I wonder what that something something is. I feel like there's

so much. There's a Chekhov's gun here and I know it's with Joe Locke. We don't know who he is. The name. We have theories. I believe, and I'm just going to say my theory. I believe that Joe Locke in the show is the son of Wanda Maximoff. She goes, you're really good at not letting it. There are a lot of theories.

Okay. Always theories. A lot of theories with Marvel stuff. The fans are real passionate. I love theory television though. Me too. You know? This is something that I guess only a few actors and writers and artists experience

where it's like, you have to be on the receiving end of all this shit. And you have to be like, you have to keep a straight face. And like, that must be interesting. Well, what's crazy about it is that like half of the people that have strong opinions are right on and the other half is so off. It's pretty amazing how kind of it's either really one or the other. Yeah. But real passionate.

You know, it's like when I remember being like really young and I would go on like the lost message boards. I was a big lost fanatic. And that was made of people that were like truly crazy fan theories and everything. I can't imagine. And when I was younger, I was like, God, it would be so amazing to be part of a show where you had to keep secrets. And then you realize like how fucking hard that is. No, it's actually kind of makes the whole thing a little fucking easier because there's nothing you can say. Yeah, right.

I'm a nosy neighbor. Yeah. We get to talk about anything. Yeah. Yeah. I have to watch Lost. Oh, you have to. No, I know. I'm a nosy neighbor. Yeah. We get to talk about anything. Yeah. Yeah. I have to watch Lost. Oh, you have to. No, I know.

I'm so behind. Does she have to watch Lost? I mean, you can watch the first season. The first season is excellent. First season, unreal. Second season, good. Third season, unreal again. Fourth season, getting weird.

Fifth season, I don't know. Sixth season, all right. Fifth season, I don't know. Sixth season, all right. Oh. Season finale, tears. What an arc. Oh, okay.

Well, they really take you on a ride. I'm telling you. That's an emotional investment over many years. Yeah. Okay. They got a little messed up

because of the strike in the middle. That's right. Like, they were hitting their stride and they were like, we're a show that like, you really have to watch episode to episode. Again, that promotes those fan theories.

And then the strike happened. It was weird and then it got a little weird. And then it got a little weird. Yeah. I heard people were not satisfied with the ending. Yeah, it's hard to land the plane. I mean, were you in holding this secret? I feel like for WandaVision, as it was airing and as it was coming and people were like

wrapped watching because it was still like we're coming out of the pandemic, but it's like we're in it. We're like we're at home. We're watching. We're pretty in it. We're pretty in it. So in it. We're so in it.

It was it was it was life saving. It was life saving. Oh, absolutely. It was like it felt like monocultural. It was like we're all watching the same thing for once. You know what I mean? Yeah. And it felt like were you holding on onto something in the airing of that show

that you were like, I can't, like that was a secret that you were holding onto the whole time. Yeah, I think, yeah, 100%. I was holding onto her

like big game. Yeah. And nobody knew she was a witch and nobody knew she was an angina. No. But because it was a pandemic

and because I don't have social media, I could really just live my life. Didn't tell my kids. They kind of forgot about it. So it was just like, we were able to watch it at live at home. And that was really,

really satisfying. It's fun. Cause that big reveal is hilarious. It's amazing. I mean, it's an iconic moment in television now. It's pretty rad. Isn't that crazy?

It's crazy. Yeah. That song got it. Emmy in television now. It's pretty rad. Isn't that crazy? It's crazy. Yeah. That song got it. Emmy. Number one. Oh, and Emmy. Oh, yeah. It was like, we topped Biebs.

The top charts, you topped Biebs. Yeah, Bieber. We topped the Biebs. Bieber was, he couldn't stand a chance. No. Bieber bottomed for you. You know what? I finally got Bieber to bottom for me.

You finally got Bieber to bottom for you. Exactly where he should be all along. 100%. Wait, we have to. Agatha is a top. Agatha is a total top. Oh bottom for me. You finally got Bieber to bottom for you. Exactly where he should be all along. 100%. Wait, we have to- Agatha is a top. Agatha is a total top. Oh, for sure! Unless it's like one of those business guys who's like, I need to put a diaper on. I need you to diaper me and give me a bottle. Because I feel like

she's so powerful that sometimes maybe she wants to be treated like a baby. Yeah. What I love about the show is it's very sapphic. Yes. It is a very queer show. I love it. It is like a baby. Yeah. What I love about the show is it's very sapphic. Yes. It is a very queer show. I love it. It is a queer show.

Yeah. And there is a lot of energy and tension. Yes. Yeah. There's a scene in the first episode, towards the end of the first episode, where I don't want to say too much because the first episode is so much fun

because of the way it starts. And it sort of calls back to the device used in WandaVision about genre and types of show. So smart what they did. But there's a scene where someone's palm is licked by someone else and it made me feel. It made you feel. It made me feel.

Definitely made me feel. That energy is really real. Well, okay. Plaza and I had never worked before together. We were on Parks and Rec. We were kind of like past each other in a hallway. Not sharing scenes. Not sharing scenes.

Very hey girl. Yes. Yeah. That's exactly what we would do. Hey girl. Hey girl. And then she, so this was the, we've always like, we've stayed really like dear friends. And then this was the first thing that we've gotten to work on together.

And it was like, what? Yeah. Didn't ever see this for the first time. Like, just always saw, like, a comedy or something. But this was like, oh, complicated. It's nice. It feels good. It had some meat on the bones.

Between you and Plaza and Patty oh forget it and I only use this word with reverence it's like these are some broads yeah you know what I mean

I was just saying I was like Patty's a broad she's a broad she like there is nobody I mean the fact that I was singing

next to Patty Lepone in a chorus that she just blended her voice. She blended. That was amazing. She blended. She is incredible and she's hilarious.

Yeah. And she was such a mama hen. Like she just took such good care of everybody. Yeah, no. And we just basically sat around and just siphoned info off of her. We just leeched on her and we Yeah, no. And we just basically sat around and just siphoned info off of her.

We just leeched on her and we just, yeah. Yeah. And she was willing to give it out. She was, we didn't have to do that much.

Stories pouring out. She doesn't give an F. No, she really doesn't. Like, did you see her and Aubrey on Hot Ones? Yes. Like that thing where they were like-

I haven't seen the whole thing but I did about the Madonna moment. The Madonna thing. She just looks at the camera because the question is like, do you want to apologize to Madonna or eat this wing that will put you in discomfort

for hours on end? And she looks at the camera and sticks that thing in her mouth. And then just throws the bone. She throws, and didn't she win? I mean, there's no option.

If she didn't win, she won. She won. She won. A winner. She's a winner. No, she's a goddess. I'm going to see her opening didn't she win I mean if she didn't win she won she won a winner she's a winner no she's a goddess I'm gonna see her opening of her play tonight

oh my god tonight I'm very excited with Mia Farrow yes it's just the two of them on stage yes

incredible I love that conceit so much I will see any play where it's just two people literally I know I know

with no intermission with no intermission oh With no intermission. Oh, with no intermission. Oh, actually, I'm saying that. I'm not sure. But she's like, she, Joe is going tonight too. The delicious Joe Locke. And so she texted both of us being like, doll, we're having a little thing at Sardi's after.

Of course. And we were like, oh. They should draw you. They gotta draw you. You must sit for a portrait. Maybe there's a, what if there's just a portrait, like an illustrator in the corner as like a party thing and then everyone can just get it. And then they just take it home. They're like, you can buy it for me for 40 bucks.

We're not putting it out there. The whole time you think it's going to be out there. And then there's somebody from Aaron Brothers sticking it in a frame. Yeah, exactly. It has to be framed. So how long are you in New York? Just until Saturday. Okay. Yeah, exactly. It has to be framed. So how long are you in New York? Just until Saturday. Okay.

Yeah. So if you have any time, literally, I just remember I have this in my thing. We have suffs. Oh, I've heard it's incredible. This is,

so this is suffs. I'm holding the playbill for suffs and I'm so moved by it. Okay. And like all the emotions, like especially after the debate the other night, like just to know how

fucking hard the suffragists worked and for years and years and years to get the right to vote. Like it left me feeling a little angry because there's still people out there being like, I might not vote. I'm just like, holy. Yeah. How can you be undecided? That's what we were talking about.

Like, who are you to be undecided? Like what? Gosh, they did a thing. I always wins when they like cut to like, like, focus group after the debates. Oh, that's just. With these undecided voters. I'm not seeing that because I can't. It's clown parade, clown brigade.

I'm so sorry. It's like, these are silly people. These are unserious people. That's all I'll say. This woman was like, well, it's important to remember that we're voting for the leader of our country, not the person we want on our wedding party. And I'm like, what? Can you even explain what it is that you mean by that? What do you mean by that?

What do you mean by that? So you think she's a fun person or seems like maybe someone who might be reliable in terms of executing the duties of the wedding party? But the guy that talks about Hannibal Lecter is an actual real friend of his who's alive and not fictional. That's who you want to run the country. Can you believe the eating of pets? Can you believe the eating of, they're eating the pets, they're eating the cats, they're eating the dogs.

The whole thing really does feel, it does like fuck with your reality. It's surreal. Because you're like, this is stuff that's coming out of people's mouths that you're like, what? I don't understand. The split screen of it is like, oh, like these, these are two people that are like next to each other that are like sharing. You know,

you know what really got me the way he wouldn't look at her. I know the way he wouldn't even look at her and that she crossed. I liked the power move in the very beginning. She crossed right over and shook his hand. And she's like, I'm not going to let you pretend. I'm not going to let you disrespect me right off the top. I'm letting you know.

And also the vibe of you're not running against him. You're running against me. He did say one thing, which I think unfortunately will stick, which is I have concepts of a plan. Well, yeah. What do you mean that's a good idea? What I mean is I think that phrasing is so dumb. It's going to be in the lexicon.

It's going to be in the lexicon. I'm like, what's your plan for this weekend? I have concepts of a plan. We're going to start saying that now. Concepts of a plan. We're going to start saying that now. Concepts of a plan. I really hope to start saying that now. It's the one thing where I'm like, damn it. I actually do have concepts of a plan for the weekend.

And then eventually something happens. Right. Exactly. What's your ideal concept of a weekend? Oof. I would love to sleep in. Yeah. I want to dance.

I got to dance. Got to dance. You do got to dance. You do got to dance. You do got to dance. I saw this club hopping thing on your college yearbook and that was really relatable. What was it?

So I put in my freshman college yearbook. I was like, special, like, what do you like to do? And I put like, poetry,

art, acting, club hopping. Club hopping. I just put it out there. Yeah. This was Northwestern? This was Northwestern, but I grew up in Cleveland. Okay, great. just put it out there. Yeah. This was Northwestern? This was Northwestern,

but I grew up in Cleveland. Okay, great. So it was like Midwest club culture. Oh my gosh. That was the best. Okay, so like- Because it felt very underground. Yeah.

So it was like, it was the best people. My mind was like, it just was the, it was the greatest. Well, literally like the birthplace, like Detroit birthplace of techno. It's like you were,

you were there for it. That's what it felt like. That is literally, like, the birthplace of Detroit, birthplace of techno. It's like, you were there for it. That's what it felt like. That is like, exactly. And Cleveland, the heart of rock and roll. The heart of rock and roll. And we'll still say it today. My mom, I remember, finally, I was like, I don't need to,

finally going to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, and my mom walking out of there was like, oh, who needs to pay 20 bucks to see a sweaty t-shirt and plexiglass? That was her. Come on, mom. I love the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's fun.

It's cute. It's really cute. I have yet to go. I must go. It's fun. I get what your mom's saying. It is a lot of just like glass cases, like, you know, like the-

Sweaty pits. It's a kid in Hollywood. It's like, oh, the jacket that Michael- I love Planet Hollywood and Hard Rock for that reason I have not been a plan in Hollywood so long you gotta go oh my god

you could be sitting at a table and above you could just be one of Madonna's bras that could happen you could be eating knowing that the bra

is right above you right there okay I have to also isn't it different in every location yes they have different artifacts I got to like if you go to the different in every location? Yes. They have different artifacts.

I got to. Like if you go to the one in, I don't know, let's say like Universal Studios, Orlando. They've got good stuff there because that's a big hard rock. That's a really important cultural hard rock, the one in Orlando. Yes. Do you get a free pass to Disney World now? No. That's ridiculous.

But sometimes like they've been really, they've been very generous. Like we went, we, I took my, my friend and I and our daughters there like recently and that was totally on the mouth.

Yeah. Which was really freaking sweet. I love Disney. We love it. And you know, there's someone walking around as you now, which has to feel wild.

It is so trippy. They have ears. They have the like mouse ears. Like purple Agatha ears? Like Agatha ones. Like Agatha is walking around. It's so trippy. They have ears. They have the like mouse ears. Like purple Agatha ears? Like Agatha ones. Like Agatha is walking around. It's so crazy to see other people like- Be you.

Be you. We went to an event in London and it was like cosplay. So there's already like cosplays for every character in the show. Yeah. Wow. Joe Locke has cosplay. The teen has cosplay. Yes. That's perfect. Yes. He'ske has cosplay. The teen has cosplay. Yes.

That's perfect. Yes. He's so cute and awesome. He's adorable. And what's so great too, immediately off the jump, is like, you got to compliment

the costume design of this show because everyone immediately is so signature. You know, like everyone's got a thing. Like Patty's like hair, like the sheer, what she's wearing and just like stunning. Like, I mean, like there's so much. Allie's got a thing. Like Patti's like hair, like the sheer what she's wearing.

I know. Just stunning. Like, I mean, like there's so much. Ally's like, yeah, everybody. The punk rock moment. So you can really like, even just in silhouette, you know exactly who everybody is. Yep, yep. Rio's like Aubrey's character.

Like, you know who everyone is. The amazing Deborah Jo. Oh, Deborah Jo. I know. She cannot open her mouth without everybody laughing. That's a real legend right there. She's a legend. I mean, that 70s show, there was not a moment that she wasn't seen that wasn't iconic.

Her timing is like nothing I've ever seen. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Her deciding whether or not she's going to go and she's like, uh, like on the, you'll see. Everyone's going to see. Everyone will see. I hope everyone sees. They will. They're going to see. It's really, uh, like on the, you'll see. Everyone's going to see. Everyone will see. I hope everyone sees.

They're going to see. It's really, really juicy. Ah, it's good. Who doesn't like, who isn't a witch really? Really? Now I was going to ask you this. Before playing Agatha, do you feel witchy? Yeah.

Are you a witchy person? Yeah. I think I am. I think like I was definitely, was my Halloween costume like most of my childhood was that or the tooth fairy and then that's a binary right there. It is. It was like I could have been like Phantom of the Opera like

have one side of my face a witch and then gone like this and it would have been the tooth fairy. Exactly. Tooth face. Harvey Dunn vibes. Yes. But yeah I always think I've you know I feel like anyone that feels kind of, you know, not normally,

like not in the norm. Gotcha. Or that feels a little bit like, doesn't really feel like they fit in or it doesn't feel like everybody else. Yeah. Is a witch. Yeah.

And so your covens are the people that you feel most connected to and make you feel the most safe and the most seen. There's a moment in the show and at the end of episode two when you guys are all singing where like it's like the coven kind of like gathering and assembling

where like you just feel like it's the direction. It's the performances. It's like all of you are all really attuning to each other in that moment. It's so important. I'm like, what's going on? Is this like, wow, whoa, this feels like a little indulgent,

but I don't mind it. Like it's just, but it's a necessary thing where you guys have to like sing at each other in order to like forge this bond that like takes you into the rest of the season.

Must to Agatha's chagrin. She doesn't want to play with other people because it's like gag me. I feel like, because I was thinking about your career and I'm like,

oh, like this is someone who went from like fucking revolutionary road to stepbrothers to fucking like transparent. So then like, I'm like this woman,

like- You've done it all. Like this is witchy. She does it all. But that's a witchy thing to like be able to like glide so seamlessly your whole career. I'm like,

it's weirdly witchy in that I've been able to get away with seamlessly your whole career. I'm like, it's weird. It's weirdly witchy in that I've been able to get away with it. Like no one has been like, ah, she's strictly comedy or she's strictly drama or what, or she's strictly whatever. I've been able to kind of disappear or I just haven't been well known. No,

that everyone meets me a new, like who's that? So I've just been able to like kind of squeeze myself into different projects. And that's been like, that's why I wanted to be an actor. Yeah. To be able to do that. To be able to inhabit so much. Yeah.

I love a rep company. I love like when some, like any group of actors, it's like Richard III on one day and like noises off. You know, like that kind of vibe is like the best. That's like why I wanted to get into this mess. So yeah, that's been fun. But again, like this last chapter that I've been doing, I think has really prepared me for The Witch.

Yeah, totally. For sure. Just because like every woman that I've been playing has been so ethically, like morally, like a little bit not, their insides are on their outsides a little bit and they make really questionable decisions. And I think that that's suppressing the witch. Yeah. And also that versatility that you've shown directly speaks to like what happens

in WandaVision where from episode to episode, you are playing a different genre. I just remember watching the first episode or two where you were so at home in that sitcom, that throwback sitcom thing. Like everyone was crushing it. But I remember there was just a moment where you like turned around. You're getting, you and her doing like a walk about the kitchen.

Yeah. And I was just like, look at how oriented she is, how comfortable you are. Just like, and it had to be, or you tell me, but like, was that just so fun and that's where it comes that's where like the accuracy comes from is how fun that opportunity is like what is that that's my dream come true right I mean Agatha first is a performer and she's a ham but I mean she loves to work a cape. But in that whole series leading up to her reveal,

every different genre was, like you said, it was just like a dream to study those sitcoms, like figure out the movement for each decade to like, yeah, of course, the best, the best. Major. The best. I couldn't believe it. It was so crazy.

That's such a holistic project for any actor, for like all, but like especially for you and Elizabeth, it's like, oh, like what's next? It feels like procedural almost, but in terms of television itself, it's crazy. No, it was crazy. It was so meta. That's what this feels like the same

way, but instead of like the sitcoms as being like the backbone of it and changing, it's kind of more like genre or tone, I guess. So it's like campy. It's like very scary. It's like, it's like all, all of those, it gets very deep, you know, so it's all the things and it switches so fast.

So fast. So there's definitely like, I would say the same structurally in terms of, in terms of the switches. Yeah. But it's maybe from, from a different perspective. Yeah. Yeah.

It fulfills this rubric where it's like any great performance you go, could anyone else have done this? Like Matt and I talk about this all the time. It's like, could anyone else have done this? And it's like, because you have led up to this moment in terms of like, with like seamlessly transitioning from one thing to the next.

Oh my gosh, you guys. It feels like a perfect marriage of a performer and an amazing role where it's just like, of course it's iconic because it is that thing of like, we've been waiting for this.

And I also will say, just to talk about Revolutionary Road. Yeah, please. I'll just never forget because I think that came out in 2007 or 8. Yeah. And I think that before that, so me being a 14-year-old in 2004 on Long Island, I at the time, I was trying really hard to like code switch in my own way

and fit in with like the boys, right? And I just remember like a shared language that we all had was Anchorman. And Will Ferrell is actually a producer of this podcast. Stop it. Yeah. And he's coming on soon. He's coming on next week. What an asshole.

What an asshole. Goddamn jerk. Not funny. Yeah, not funny at all. He's all fake laugh. 100%. But just that scene with you and Christina Applegate, where you tell her that he'll read anything off the prompter.

Just like that was a moment where all my male friends were quoting what women were doing in a movie. I know this sounds odd. No, no, I know exactly what you're- But at that moment, I felt like, oh, this is like- I have a way in. I was like, the thing that I loved most about this movie, which was Christina and everyone. Veronica was like- and like everyone like Veronica was like

Veronica we loved Veronica but just like between that and also then a few years later me knowing you from that and then obviously

Step Brothers which is a whole other stratosphere we were crying on Fire Island we were like the only gay men on that island watching Step Brothers

like an Adam McKay movie but we were like just dying we were like just dying we were like it's so stupid funny I mean I watched the scene again with you breathing

into his mouth it was just like it's insane I was like this is can you talk about that scene I mean that was I think I know the scene you're talking about

the scene with John C. Reilly at the porch it's too much on the porch it's too much oh no and then there's

the bathroom one I'm gonna I'm gonna roll you up in Oh no. And then there's the bathroom one. I'm going to, I want to roll you up in a little ball. Yeah. Yeah. That was our AD who pitched it because everything was,

he was like, why don't you go, you should try going over and just peeing in the urinal. And I was like, yeah, I should. Leg up.

Perfect. Leg up. Just genius. Back to. Complete insanity. Otherwise, it'd be all over you. Right.

Of course. With these parts, with these parts, it's be all over you. Right. Of course. With these parts, with these parts, it's not a direct hit. Yeah, no. You never know what way it's going to go. I love it. She's a beast.

She's a beast. She's a beast. But yeah, we improvised all that. I was wondering, how epic is that? Was it the McKay way of like, we'll shoot a scene as rude, and then you do it,

don't even think about the script. Yes. You just, just do that. Don't even think about the scripts. Yes. You just, just do that, which is so genius because of the script is somewhere in there because you know, you have to get somewhere. It can't just be like,

but then sometimes it went places that I don't even know. Like we had the state, like we've so dark. We were planning Adam Scott's murder, like in detail. Why were we having sex? I love it. But like in really graphic

like how we would get into the place, who would have the knife, who would do the first, I mean, it was so graphic. Release that Snyder cut. Where's that cut? I know, I know.

Even at the end when like everyone, it's at the Catalina Wine Mixer when Will is singing and it's like everyone and it cuts to people in the audience. Beautifully singing,

by the way. Beautiful singing. Gorgeous singing. Gorgeous voice. And you in a gorgeous head voice singing Sweet Child of Mine too. Like you and Patty

singing together makes total sense now because it's like you know the way and it's transparent. It's like Catherine Hahn can sing. Yeah.

Right. But anyway. I'm really good at karaoke. What's your song? Yeah, what's your song? Oh, I love a ball song oh I love a ballad I love a ballad I love any

slow Rihanna song Stay Stay yes it was just a woman was just crushing it in the subway last night

stop it I'm telling you I can't and I thought I had seen all the beautiful singing at Sufts but then I got in town to the subway

and a woman was Sufts is a musical it's a musical. It's by Shana Taub, who is actually our friend from years back. She just won two Tony. She's the first person ever to win the Tony for writing the book and score of a musical. And she's the lead. Okay.

I am so sold. You are going to love it. Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah. Okay. But anyway, like, just to talk about, like, all these, like, ways that you were so iconic from a comedic standpoint, like just to talk about like all these like ways that you were so iconic from a comedic standpoint, like to us. And then I remember I watched Revolutionary Road because there is there was that real side of me that really just wants to see Kate Winslet in a domestic drama. Yes. And then to see you in that and that insanely beautiful, so heartbreaking scene at the end where you break.

And is it David Harbour? Yeah. David Harbour is so good. So good. And the tragedy. And I want you to know, having known you from the stuff that we knew you from to that, I was like, Catherine Han. And that's why it's crazy that you're here.

Because you really are fucking great. Oh God. I shot that the same summer as Step Brothers. Really? Wow. And that was improvised too? It was improvised. Sam Mendes was like, all right.

One for fun. Yeah, one for you guys. Yeah, totally. But I mean, that's when things started to be like, okay, okay, okay. Like I could actually do this. Like I don, that's when things started to be like, okay, okay, okay. Like I could actually do this. Like I don't have to be, I didn't think I was comedy at all. Like I didn't think it was in my bones. I was like a serious, I studied like serious plays.

But then I was always the class clown. Like I was always the one kind of fucking around. So maybe, you know, that should have taught me something. Well, I know it's like other people are telling you, but you've broken out of that every single time. Yeah, I think it was like working with honestly, I started working with these incredible women writer filmmakers that just were excited about, you know, I always try to fit in instead of just being myself. Like I always felt like I was trying to hit the mark and be the best friend and the quirky best friend. Yeah. But then the pregnant best friend,

you know, I had like a chapter, but then I threw McKay actually the first one that it was like, finally felt anarchic in a way that I really dug. Yeah. And I took that into any kind of acting moving forward. Like the ability to just be trusted. Yeah.

That whatever you bring is, nothing's wrong. I love anarchic. Yeah. Because like, I feel like, okay, you pick this up from McKay. And then I feel like this relation, this collaboration you have with Joey Soloway. Yeah. Kind of that same. It is.

Anarchy where it's like, it can be anything. And I don't think that I would have had the same availability to that had I not done those movies really yeah which is so awesome

no I love that is awesome though and work with those dudes like just to watch Will's his just deftness and his like

brain just being like I don't understand his brain he's like really touched by an angel he's touched by an angel. He's touched by an angel.

I think 80 was someone who, 80 Brian would work with, like when he came to host, she was just like, he's just someone you look at and you like smile and you laugh. I know. He's a magic person. And he's also like a dear,

dear, dear person. Yeah. Yeah. Gentle giant. I mean, this new documentary that's coming out, Will and Harper.

I've seen it. I've seen it. We're about to. We're about to see it. You are going to cry. It is so moving. It is so beautiful. Both of them are just gorgeous. It's really beautiful.

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showrunners that allow and you don't you don't always get that time because no it's hard like something people might not know about production is it's a jam. You know what I mean? Like it's like a time crunch. But when you get that opportunity to have that one take, like I just worked with Liz Feldman and like actually Tiana Paris is in that show too. It's coming out later this year. She's an angel.

And she can do it all too. She can do it all. But she always was like, okay, and then we're going to do the fun run. And those are my favorite words. Because I know that that's a lot, where a lot of this stuff really comes from. And when you feel like you're rushed out of something, whatever you say,

they got it. They know what they're doing, but the opportunity is something that's not always there. To just get it all out. I feel like there's no stone left unturned. Yeah. And you're right. Joey Soloway,

like working with them was, really did shift that movie, Afternoon Delight, kind of changed all of our perspectives on what it is to make something because you never knew where the camera was. It kept- Liberating. He was such an emotional camera operator

that he would just like follow where the scene was, all the beats of it. It was that was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just having that that like leader like doing the project that's interested in that. Yes. And like I would also say like that's why it's great to like, you know, not whenever anyone that's in obviously money is money or whatever.

But like to not feel like every single second of every single day you have to just like get it like it's such a gift like for that to not be the situation i think nowadays yes although i would say too that sometimes when there's like tight constraints like if it's time or money there is like a real freedom and excitement to have to do it like you don't have a lot of time. Like I kind of like that feeling too. If being like, okay, got to make a decision. Can't like waffle. Like, you know, you can't like try everything. So like, this is it.

I got to like, I got to really play it. You know, this has to be, this has to matter because otherwise that's it. That's what they'll use. Right. And you tend not to like look back and be like, I should have done this. Oh, always.

Okay. I barely, I hate watching myself., I should have done that. Oh, always. Okay. Okay. I barely, I hate watching myself. Like I never look at the monitors. A lot of people want to go look at what they've done. And I'm like, if I start looking at it,

I'll be looking at the wrong stuff. Of course. No, 100%. I would just be like, oh God, oh my God, those bags. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just couldn't.

You can't see yourself. And I mean, what I mean is, that's not like being like, you can't see yourself and I mean what I mean is that's not like being like you can't see yourself what I'm saying is like people cannot

really see themselves especially with like Zoom and Marco Polo I think people are getting crazy about their own appearance yes you're a Marco Polo person?

I love Marco Polo I love Marco Polo I do I love it especially when traveling and then you cano person? I love Marco Polo. I love Marco Polo. I do. I love it. I love it. Especially when traveling and then you can still stay connected. I love it. He's a little Marco Polo freak.

You love it. I love it. Put on the different voices. Oh, there's different voices, little effects. The people that I was like in Marco Polo with

like have kind of fallen off and I kind of, I miss it. So we had a Marco Polo group called Core Talk. This was early days of quarantine. March 2020, quarantine, Core Talk. It was me, Joe Firestone, Josh Sharp, Cola Scola.

And then the four of us would just check in every day. And then we just like sort of fell off. It's like, I feel like we need to bring back Marco Polo, y'all. I know. It's visual voicemail. It's so easy. It's like you're just checking in. I have like four friends.

And my daughter sometimes. And she always does like, she'll sometimes do like a try on at a store. Be like, what about this? That's so helpful. And it's so freaking cute. It's just, I want to say, I mean, I want to save them for, but that's the kind of brilliant thing about it is that they're always there, but just for you, us.

Yeah. The owners of them are whatever the phone's real private, which I like. Yeah. You keep it together. I think we, I just, y'all. Keep it in house.

Keep it in house. I mean, you could just go back, I could just go back to March 2020 and like get a visual diary of like, well,

like who knows how long this is going to last. It's like crazy to think about. It is so crazy to think about. It's like intimate and all that stuff. Yes. The next thing we'll think about

is the central question of this podcast. Oh. So, this is the... You know, my segues over the years, we've done this now for about eight and a half years. They're getting worse. No, that was amazing.

You thought that was amazing? That was amazing. I thought so. I mean, listen, I thought it was important to get to the question. And... Listen, this is like a set. We needed to.

Would you say it was amazing? Time is money amazing money is time will ferrell's out there with a stopwatch he better get to it oh he really does um okay i want to talk about how long that uh until you got to the central question uh oh my god here's my notes boys um So we ask everybody that comes through here. Yes. What was the culture that made you say culture was for you? Meaning the pop culture that you can remember that you,

Catherine Han now, are like little Catherine Han then may have started becoming because of this. Well, you know, when I first heard that this was a question, I was going to say Italy. I love the food. I love the land. Cinema. I love the food. I love the land. Cinema. I love the cinema.

I love the air. I love the cheese, the bread. The disco. Exactly. I just love it. I love the club hopping. That's all very, but those are all wonderful,

sumptuous things that I feel like you connect with. Italian things. Italian things. Like a little pool in the middle of nowhere. That's an amazing answer. Did you want to change the answer? Well, then I thought, oh, if it was yes, no, if I didn't, if I had to. If Italy wasn't

even on the map. If Italy didn't exist. Perish the thought. Perish the thought. I would say then it was techno music for me. It was when I was introduced to I don't know if you'd call it Bjork, but Bjork

New Order all that kind of music was just like that was my again, my club hopping days I think it was earlier, but that really moved me in ways that I did not feel before. I was in a family of like, there's a lot of classical music and Cleveland, there was a lot of classical music and Cleveland.

There's a lot of hard, dumb rock. Like not even rock that you're just like, it was just shredding. Yeah. It's just shredding. Just like a lot of like pour some sugar on me. No offense,

but you know, it didn't really hit me. Yeah. It wasn't for me. Totally. But there was something about this that like, we could all like let our freak flags for like fly. It hit you from the inside.

Let them fly. Yeah. I felt Bjork's music. I just was like, who is this person? Yeah. I still am. That's anarchic.

It's like unstructured. Yeah. It's like, it's just, if you're talking about like general techno, it's just like the loop of it. Right. You just get lost in like

the sound and also that beat can be so solid in a lot of techno but Bjork you know that she uses real stuff to make those I mean or whatever yeah basketball bouncing around she

just is one in a gazillion. I love this answer. I don't think we've ever had anyone say Bjork. You know, a couple of years ago, I went to Coachella and Bjork was on the Coachella stage and she did an orchestral set. And it was just so funny

because a lot of people were there for Bjork and I think they maybe thought they were getting- Like the noise and the sound. No, but this is Fasora. This is like the mushroom one. But the people, those who knew, knew what she was going to be doing. And it was fully just her and a full orchestra.

And it was still as Bjork as any other Bjork. But just that she's an artist that can go up there and constantly surprise and delight in that way. Yes. That is,

that is, we were having a debate as to like what pop star has been able to evolve and not kind of feel like they have to stay somewhere when it starts to get cringy. Yeah. Have the same wardrobe, the same kind of sound. She's someone that I feel like is constantly. Yes.

And I feel like Adele too. Like that is a person that is going to keep growing. But yeah, I mean, I saw this video of Bjork recently. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's just her on Lava Rocks in Iceland in this little hut where she made that album.

And you were like, what? You are, talk about a witch. Yeah, talk about a witch. She is a witchy woman. Yes, just conjuring brilliant shit. Yes, exactly, sound. Right. Favorite Bjork album? Oh, it's gotta be the, well, I loved it from Sugar Cubes,

which was like before. Yeah, I went to Sugar Cubes, of course. I would say, actually, what's the one from the movie that she did? Oh, Dancer in the Dark? Yes. I love it. I've Seen It All is maybe one of the movie that she did? Oh, Dancer in the Dark? Yes. I love it. I've Seen It All is maybe one of the best songs of all time. Oh, it makes me want to cry thinking about it.

And that performance on the Oscars, I remember I was like seven or eight. I don't think I saw that. Oh, this is where she famously wore the swan dress. Oh, yes, of course. And she was on all those. I remember she was on all the worst dress lists because people just didn't get it. And then people mimicked it and it was like so dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was like the easy comedy of the time. Yes. But obviously on face value, it's like very, a very American thing to like make fun of her for doing that

because again, like they wouldn't get it. It's foreign. So it's very on the nose comedy of that time. Like look at the stupid woman wearing this stupid thing. I know.

Hard dumb rock. Dumb shit. I know. It's like hard dumb rock. It's like hard dumb rock for the comedy. Yeah, yeah. Like York Swan dress. It's like hard dumb rock. It's like hard dumb rock, but comedy. Yeah, yeah. Like Bjork's one dress.

It's like, okay. I think there's still pockets that are like that, which is like, you guys. Yeah, well, they exist. I mean. Yes, but you're right.

But that was that performance. She was really acting on stage. And like, it was just this insane, beautiful moment. And I remember watching it at the time being like, I don't get this at all

because I was seven and from Long Island. But then like years later, I watched that performance again the time being like, I don't get this at all because I was seven and from Long Island. But then like years later, I watched that performance again. And I was like, wow, this is truly art. Like she's like really living that. There's my thing. My other favorite song is Stone Milker. And I don't know what album's on, but I want you guys to listen to it.

Stone Milker is the yellow one. I just know that by color. Oh, that's kind of amazing. I don't know. We really, we deal in color. Sensory. We're not. We're not.

We're not synesthetic at all. But like, it was all that music that I was just like, I just think that all of that blew my mind. Yeah. And really made me like, feel like these are my people. Like, I don't know. There's something in it that was like felt so I'd say that kind of shifted something

for me that I didn't have to just exist in this like male big sounding guitar you know dudes with I was going to say dudes with tank tops on but but and yet here I am also you said that that was Magic Johnson

I'm very surprised how slender he was. So I can't say this was his real jersey, but if it was, yeah, he was a slender guy. I thought it was his real jersey. Oh my God. If this Williamsburg thrift store really had it,

I know this should be in a hard rock. That should be in a plexiglass case. This should be above a table of someone eating like seafood pasta. That should be in a planet Hollywood. And it will be after this. Okay. It'll be Matt Rogers' Magic Johnson jersey. From Magic Johnson's lighter days.

Exactly. Have you, just to speak on the techno thing a little bit more, have you been to Berlin? Yeah, we just came back from Berlin. Oh, yeah? But we didn't get to do anything in that we were working were you busy but i want to go do it there so bad yes so to berg we're talking about berghain well we're talking about the whole city but berghain i mean

if are you trying to get into berghain but you're a head like you're a techno head like you get it they would read you and be like they would sense it it. They would sense it. I would want you. Now, I also heard stories of Berlin, which are fascinating to me. They're like clubs with like grates that you can walk above it and just urinate on the people below you. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

That sounds like, um, Kit Kat club. We, we, we, we have not been to the clubs ourselves. I just,

that is amazing to me. We were there really briefly. Glory holes. Glory holes. Of course. But like there, so there, that's what I love about hearing about Berlin is it there really briefly. Glory holes. Glory holes, of course. That's what I love about hearing about Berlin is it's just like... Lawless. Lawless.

Not where we were. No. You're on a dance floor and a song comes on from that time. It just, it really, you can feel the energy in the room. It's different. It's just like, there's such a quality to it too,

because it's new. It's like brand new. Yeah. So I just love that sound. Or it's just like, it's brand new. And it's also like, I don't know if you guys agree with this, but it's like perfectly ephemeral. It's like whoever you meet on the dance floor

is someone that you are going to connect with meaningfully, but like you may not ever see again. Yes. And that's okay. But not in like a sexual or like, no, it's just a spiritual level. Like, yeah. Connecting with you and like, look,

like, and then we'll just like, yeah, you're in a trip with that person. You're on like a trip. Yeah. Oh, beautiful. I know. I really, really beautiful about that. We gotta go again.

We gotta go again. Oh yeah. You gotta go. You gotta go again. I gotta go again. But you know what? I gotta do with a good couple of months, but on the other

side, because mama, it takes longer for her to recover. I mean, every single day gets harder. We're falling off a cliff, personally. Yeah, no. Every day, it's difficult to

look in the mirror right off the bat. Right off the bat, it's hard. Under here, it's really tough. Especially when you realize it's difficult to look in the mirror right off the bat. Right off the bat is hard. Under here is really tough, especially when you realize it's like, it's not like, oh, I didn't get enough sleep. Oh my God, you guys are gorgeous. Well, so are you, but you can't see yourself. Yeah, you can. Until you can the morning after you've partied.

And you realize it's not that I didn't get enough sleep. It's that there's just less collagen there than there used to be. And it's filled with rosé. It's just your face. It's not that I didn't get enough sleep. It's that there's just less collagen there than there used to be. And it's filled with rosé. It's just your face. It's gravity. Oh, yeah. One day I woke up and I was like, oh, my God. Do I have a palsy?

Because one eye had drooped so low. My eyebrows were so opposite. It was really noticeable. Just like you, quizzical? Yes, it really was like, what's happening to my face? It was Harvey Dent. It was Tooth Fairy on one side and it was Witch on the other. Exactly. Tooth Fairy and a Witch.

And a Witch. Tooth Fairy and a Witch. Tooth Fairy and a Witch is the title of that. It's the title of that. That's it. Oh, yeah. Wait, hold on. I'm now compelled, I don't know why, to ask you if you love Disney, what's your favorite ride or attraction?

Okay, my favorite ride. And you're now a spokesperson for the company, remember. My mouse ears disappear in my head. My favorite ride is Space... Okay, can I say Space Mountain? Space Mountain. The inside one that has the trippiest music. And all the lights. Space Mountain. Classic inside one that has the trippiest music. Yeah. And all the lights.

Space Mountain. Classic. I love that. And I love also the, it's a memory play, you guys. No, yeah, I know. No, I know. We're in the mind castle. What's the one that's like, it's like an alpine one.

Matterhorn. Matterhorn. Not great for the neck anymore, but I really love it. In fact, really bad for the neck. Really bad for the neck. For all the bones. Darling.

You have to like, press yourself against the back of it because I can't handle it anymore. Those are both like, I would say like, single file, like flume-esque. Not flumes,

there's no water, but it's like, you're on, it's just like, you're on like a fucking. Well, it's a bobsled. It's a slalom. It's a slalom.

A slalom. One of the great words slalom it's a slalom a slalom one of the great words I'm gonna slalom a sip of water right now slalom slalom it down as you slalom I gotta hawk this slalom

baby not hawk the slalom I absolutely love it it was somehow Shakespearean when you said it it was somehow gorgeous hawk the slalom

you know how you know you're old too yee I'll slawk your hollum slalom slawk your hollum slawk your hollum happy holidays you know you're old too. Yee, my slok, your Harlem. Slalom. Slok, your Harlem. Slok, your Harlem.

Happy holidays. You know you're old when you go on one rollercoaster. I'm going to Six Flags on Friday. Oh, that's such a hot box. You go on one rollercoaster

and you feel like your stomach is in your shoulder. It's like suddenly a G-force is like, lethal. Weak ruining. Your brain is still three feet above your head and you're like you know what i need right now a corn dog yeah yeah yeah that'll make it better

i said the next day after you go to disney or any theme park your stomach is a rock yeah nothing's happening for days and you just think to yourself like yeah yeah, come on. We're here. Let's do it. Let's consume it all. Yeah. We're here. We might as well. Hey, I'm going to have a churro. Knock it back. Churro is a cat food. Churro? Churro. Churro. It's like a thing you give to cats that they love a treat

to get them out from hiding under the bed. My daughter's always like, it's churro. It is churro. Yeah, it is. But listen, do we even like churro it is churro yeah it is but listen do we even like churros let's give it

we're not having this conversation of course we do I think we do it depends sometimes they can be shit city but when they're good they're great when they're absolutely doused

you know what I did have at Disney one time it was churro with what's the cereal my girl that's the one with the

corn flakes no no no the rainbow one oh lucky charms fruit loops fruit loops it was it was a churro covered in fruit loops that you could only get in like the darkest corner of disneyland or of the county fair yeah i mean it was that's a sugar. Like that feels like my mouth would be furry. They were sugar. You know, when you eat something so sweet, you're like, ah, yeah, now I'm different. Now I'm different. Like I've grown hair on the inside of my mouth.

Well, speaking of sugar, you know what really hurt my feelings the other day? Oh, no. Air it out. Finding out that a Diet Coke, which is now my new obsession on because we're trying to be drinking less because of the age of it all. Yes, I know me too. It's not as cute. It's hard, but it also feels so much better when you're asleep. Yeah. Okay, but yes, that there's

more caffeine in this than there is in cold brew. What? Really? That's what they said. Almost the person this day. We got people shaking their heads behind the camera. I think you're going to get a look. Do you have something to say? Do you have something to say? Do you have something to say? Are you shaking your head at this interview?

I'm not a DC fanatic. You're not a DC fanatic? Are you more Coke Zero? My girlfriend is obsessed with DC. It's like a problem. What are you obsessed with? Regular Coke? No, I just drink coffee.

Okay. But I do love Bjork. Oh, that's good. But I do love Bjork. Oh, that's good. But I do love New York. That makes me very happy. You really did something there. That was good. That was iconic comedy.

That was really good. Respect. Respect. And the album with Stone Milker is Volna Cura. Volna Cura. Thank you. That's the yellow one. I got the color right.

Let me tell you something. From now on, if there's ever a moment where we are stumped, you have the permission as a culture. Everybody does. Yes. Anybody. What do you think? I'm just answering for it. So we have different subgroups of our fandom. Yes. You might be a finalist for that one. That's finalist.

That was finalist behavior. Thank you. If any guess you have on is just not clicking, you could just say, okay, well, this is our, thank you so much. And then. And then throw them in. Just be like, hey, Will. Yeah.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have we ever had a secret handshake as besties? No. I don't think we're those kinds of guys. I love that you're besties. For 15 years. You guys have fun. You get to do this together.

So fun. Has it deepened it or? Deepened. Okay, good. You know, I would say like, because we've also spent a lot of time together this year. Just even like outside of the, it's like, you know.

Yeah. We're not just work friends. Also, you get to go through this together, which is so exciting. Yeah. Like last night we saw, I saw Sufts on Broadway and there's just

so many people in the cast and not just Shayna who created the show, but that we went to school with. Like our friend Kim Blank, who's so amazing. Shout out. Ada Westfall,

just to shout out some people. And I literally went backstage and I just, I just started sobbing because I was like, A, so moved by what I had seen, but also we all had the same mentor. Her name was Liz Suedos.

She was like a sort of like giant. Where did she go to school? NYU, we went. But this woman was like a giant in downtown theater and was like a mentor to several of us. And I just like felt her spirit there and how proud she was. And like, it's the only time I really get woo-woo

is when I like, not the only time. I'm always like, what time are you? Yeah, no, but like one of the only time. I'm always like, what time are you? Yeah. No, but like one of the times I get really woo woo was when I feel like that mentor that we had, that her spirit is in the room and her spirit was so in the room. Oh gosh.

Yeah. Do you have like a mentor that you can look back on that you feel like? Oh yeah, for sure. A lot of amazing teachers. Yeah. Yeah.

That you're just like, wow, I've, I've still used some of the stuff that I. Yeah. Learned from them. Yeah. Yeah. That you're just like, wow, I've, I've still used some of the stuff that I learned from them. Yeah, for sure. And then there's some teachers that you're like, wow, what, what, what happened there? Like, what was that? Right. For sure. You're like the problematic teachers and you're like, where did you make me do? Yes. We had a teacher that was, we would all have to find an animal and kind of become that

animal on stage yeah yeah i was a gibbon of course yeah a monkey with the long long arms and then a girl in my class uh now a woman was a panther and she wore a thong leotard over thong tights and which I guess panther like and this teacher used to keep being like drop into your panther and so then she would just be crawling around on the stage

roaring with the thong on and you're like what was that about yeah I'm like come on none of us you can't pull the wool over our eyes. No, you can't. John Early has a story where

the first day of class at Tisch, there was one teacher. It doesn't matter who, but he goes... I think he was in ETW. Experimental Theater. They went for it. An older man just goes, I just want to say if there are any journalists, if there's any press

in the room, get out. It's like these are 18 year old children. Stop it. Oh, wow. If there's any press in the room, please leave. If there's any press in the room, get out. On the first night, there's a freshman. 18 year old. What's happening? What's going to happen to me?

It's insane. There's also a couple of them from the musical theater studio. Tell a story about like one day one of the dance teachers lined them up and was like, several of you will get through on your looks. You. You. No. You, kinda.

Like just. Oh my God. Brutal. When I went to 4-H camp, which was like this kind of farm camp in Ohio. My cousins live. I was like this kind of farm camp in Ohio. My cousins live, I was like the big city cousin up in Cleveland. They lived

right on the border between Kentucky and Ohio in a small town called Waynesville. Waynesville. And I loved going there. Like such a sweet,

awesome haunted town. Yeah. But it was called the second most haunted town in Ohio. I took that very to heart. I know. I'm like, there is a documentary there.

That's like drop dead gorgeous. This is where the world's oldest living Lutheran. Like what towns are known for? Like the riff on that. Like what a small town is like a landmark for. The second most haunted town in Ohio. But anyway, we went to a camp, a 4-H camp, and they, the counselors, had all the

girls line up, put a sheet over our face or like this to this, and we had a legs competition. I was 12 years old, and my cousin won. Your cousin won? Yeah, there was two horrible memories about it.

Yeah. The competition itself, and then your cousin winning. there was two horrible memories about it. Yeah. The competition itself and then your cousin winning. She was like, it's nothing. It's nothing. And I was like, no, I'm so happy for you. Because it's like you lose and also there's someone who's doing that. I know. Like I forgot about that until afterwards. We were like, how fucked up was that?

Have you watched Chimp Crazy? I'm obsessed with Chimp Crazy. Are you done with it? No. I haven't seen the only one. Yeah, that's the last one. I have to wait until I get home because my family would kill me. Oh, you're watching it all together. Yes. So you've gone to the third episode where

you know the truth. The truth and they know the truth, but they haven't told. Oh, they just told Peter. They just told Peter. Can I ask, spoiler alert, what's the truth? We can't tell you what the truth but they haven't oh they just told Peta they just told Peta can I ask spoiler alert what's the truth we can't tell you what the truth is

because you I'm telling you Matt I've only seen the first one oh no you just need to watch it it's really interesting because it's a lot of women it's these women who have this obsession

with these monkeys and it's like the Peta lady says it's like it's this phenomenon where it's. Yeah. And it's like the PETA lady says, it's like, it's this phenomenon where it's usually women. Yeah. Almost always women

who like adopt these monkeys as if they were their own child. Yes. They want, because they can keep them as these like, it's like such control issues. Like talk about

mommy dead and dearest. Mommy dead and dearest. It's really like they just diaper them all and sleep with them and take them out and for walks and dearest. Mommy dead and dearest. It's really like they just diaper them all and sleep with them and take them out for walks and feed them.

Is it a control thing? Yes. I think it is. But then they turn six and it's like a wild animal. Right. Correct. They're like,

like it starts to get dangerous. Your baby is ripping your face off. Suddenly your baby rips someone's face off and they have the first full human face transplant. I couldn't believe that.

Oh my God. I was watching it over her shoulder on the plane. Where were we coming from? Toronto. We were up in Toronto when we were coming back

and it was just so funny because you're watching Chimp Crazy and I was reading this book called Status and Culture and I was like, if this isn't role reversal, like,

it's a role reversal because usually I'm like watching like Housewives and I'm reading a book. I was like, if this isn't role reversal. It's a role reversal. Because usually I'm like watching Housewives and I'm reading a book. It was great. We learn from each other. It's amazing. There's some amazing articles about Travis. Travis was the

chimp in Connecticut. And Travis apparently was even given a Xanax in his orange juice that morning because mom knew something could be off. What? Yes. I had no idea. He was jumping around the house.

She couldn't get a handle on him. She gave him, she had to slip him a Xanax. Do you think? On a regular basis. But that day she was like, this is a Xanny day. Do you think the Xanny had anything to do with him ripping off? I think that he really saw that Elmo doll and lost it. Yeah, something about Elmo.

Yes. Didn't sit right. It did not sit right. No. And then he just attached her. Historically, yeah, that Elmo makes people freak the fuck out. It makes me freak out. Although some kids love it.

Well, the Tickle Me Elmo was driving kids crazy. It was giving kids seizures and shit. Remember that? Yes. The Tickle Me Elmo, the most popular toy I think of all time was lethal because it would just shake

and of course kids were going to freak the fuck out. Yeah. Yes, that's weird. You're right. It was a seizure doll that you gave to your kids and said,

yeah, everyone has this. And then they were like, and like, what are you going to do? You get overstimulated. It's like drinking 10 of these. Do you remember that thing? I think it was in Japan,

the Teletubbies, where they had to pull it from the air because kids couldn't watch it without having seizures. Oh, yeah. With some sort of epileptic thing. Another kids show. Yeah.

Something was going on. Something was going on. There was something going on with kids programming, and that's actually a rule of culture across the board. Across the board. 103.

There's something going on with kids programming as we're talking about theater do you what was the last play you did or musical or stage thing the last play I did

was Boeing Boeing which was here wow on Broadway oh my god Boeing Boeing wait when are you gonna do it again

you know I gotta wait until my kids are out of the house because it's not a mom job unless they're here but I would never see them so you are in la though yeah yeah okay and you like la i love la now it took a while kicking and screaming i had a storage unit in brooklyn for so long yeah like way too long and we finally had everything you hauled

out here and the shit that i saved that I thought was storage unit worthy. I had like bags of tights with like holes in them. You need your tights. Yeah, I need my tights. And I had tights. Tights. Tights and hoes. And then I had like a salad spinner that a bank gave me

for opening up a savings account. The bank gave you a salad spinner? You know what they used to give you shit? Yeah. And I was like, I'm holding onto this forever. I love it. I mean,

it was disgusting what we saved. It's crazy when you realize like there was a time when I thought this was indispensable. Like, I don't know, some like, I think you and I are like this.

I don't know. Did you ever have as like a person doing theater a long time ago like a bag of props? Like a bag of wigs and stuff. Of your own props. Like, so we did sketch comedy.

We kind of came up doing that famously. But like back in the day, like I would have, I would be the keeper of the props for our sketch group. And so I had everything. You wanted to be a doctor? I got it. I got you if you want to be a lawyer.

Wait, that's so fun. If you want to be a redhead, what length, what style do you want? I have all different kinds. And so now it's like I don't have anything anymore because I gave them I think I gave them all up. And I do feel a little like naked without

my bag of props because one thing I had for years was my endless bag of props. But it would just be sitting there. It would be like the salad spinner. It's like- But did you have one of those noise things where it would be like people clapping?

Oh yeah. Hearts nonstop. Oh. Horns going off. Yeah, I mean like- Car alarm. All of it. Yeah, I love that.

You know how many whistles I had from playing coaches? I made a whistles, babe. Honey, it was almost like, I don't know why I had so many whistles. I had so many to the point where I actually, you've played, you keep that shit because it's like, and then,

oh, then I took the whistle and I put it on my keys. I was like, what if, what if that's good to have, even if you're a man, even if for anyone, have the whistle,

but then like, but like, how do you feel about your kids stuff? Like, cause now you gotta like, you're like, there's residue from like the kids. Yes.

Well, I know they used to think I was gaslight city because I would just throw shit away that I, that to me was just a, you know, a ball of tinfoil. And they would be like, where,

where's my, where's my ball of tinfoil? Yes. And so I had to be like, okay, they just need to, it's hard for me though. Cause I like a clean space. I just have to like, okay, they just need to, it's hard for me though. Cause I like

a clean space. I just have to keep my space clean and just keep their doors closed. So did you have preteen children during the pandemic? Yeah. Yeah, it was hard. It was hard to start. And they both were kind of starting. My daughter was graduating like her elementary school, which is so hard. And they had a drive-through graduation. My son was in middle school, which was sucked. So it was like I would go in and check in on him.

And the school screen was all, every kid was in the darkest room. Like you couldn't see their faces. Because who wants to be like seen at that age that intensely by your classmates? Yeah. Wow. I know. It's a very depressing time to be a kid.

Yeah. Especially it's kind of a depressing, hard time anyway. Anyway. I know for anyone. I don't think anyone is the great version of themselves at 12, 13, 14, 15. No. But then to think that that's just at 12, 13, 14, 15. No. But then to think that that's just in their bones, like that that happened. Yeah.

We were so paranoid and scared for so long. Of course. I think that's why I really, like I remember when Billie Eilish like really popped off. Yes. I was like, I was looking at it like a millennial being like, on face value, like I don't necessarily understand. But then you really think about it and you're like of course like a she's a genius which i think when you didn't get when you first saw her when she came out she is a genius yes but the way she was speaking to like the people of her generation you're like of course that's like the person that they're

gonna look up to and i love the smiths yeah, it was like, ah, I wear black on the outside because black is what I feel on the inside. Yeah. That's, you latch on. Morrissey. Morrissey.

Yeah, yeah. But that was like, that music also was kind of that dark energy of like, that you needed to tap into as a kid.

Like that, there's something that was like, mm-hmm. Yeah. But, I'm not, I'm not alone. Yeah. So you're saying Smiths came to you that you needed to tap into as a kid. Like that, there's something that was like, yeah, but I'm not, I'm not alone. Yeah. So you're saying Smith's came to you as like a kid.

And like, that was like, I mean, I think same age, like it was like around that awesome era of music is like, it was such a beautiful, I saw it must've been like 14, 15.

Yeah. Techno and Morrissey. Yeah. You know, it's really cool. Like the VMAs were last night. They were, they'll be a week ago. Yeah. Techno and Morrissey. You know, it's really cool. Like the VMAs were last night. They were? They'll be a week ago.

Yeah. So they were last night. And what's cool about it is for the very first time in like a few years, I don't know if this speaks to whatever time we're in because it is obviously a very difficult political time, but there's a lot of really cool artists out right now. Like, again, I was at Coachella and I left that music festival being like, music's in a really cool, good place. And then even watching that like very sort of like corporate mainstream award show is like you watch it and you're like, there's like really cool artists across genre.

And it makes you feel like, you know, pop music is very queer right now. Like, you know, the way that Chapel Roan like speaks to people is like incredible. Her music's amazing. Oh, she's so great. But just like it makes you feel like kids or people that are forming now a musical identity are in good hands, at least in that art form. When it feels like film and TV is sometimes hard nowadays. Yes. Music is feeling like it's in a good place.

Pretty amazing, though. Like my daughter, who's 15, but like even starting at 13, like she would correct me. Like she, she knows so much more than I did or that I, like she's in terms of like speaking gender, speaking like she, it's pretty amazing.

It's not that you didn't have that background either because just. Catholic school. Well, I'm saying like, just in terms of like the projects you've been on where it's like- Oh yeah, no, definitely. But like, I didn't, I would always be like,

hey guys, hey guys. Like, that's what I, you guys, come on. Yeah, yeah. And she was, and she like, I'm not as like strict as her on this department, but she's like,

don't say guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. Y'all and folks both feel like specifically regional in a way that I, that I cannot ascribe to personally because I'm like, I'm not from these places. Y'all kind of started flying out of my mouth

because of my exposure to Kelly Clarkson on the television. So being 12 and 13 years old and being like, y'all, y'all, y'all. I was saying y'all at school and they were like, why are you doing that? Yeah. And I was like, oh, I don't know. And they were like, I bet it's because he likes Kelly Clarkson. Gay. And I was just like, ah.

They connected the dots. Yeah. Oh, middle school bullies can find your weakness and just easier than anyone else sharks have nothing on middle school kids yeah they're vicious they are especially the girls

I know mean some of them some of them are sweethearts we were saying the other day like we were talking about Regina George, like the character Regina George in Mean Girls. And how iconic like Rachel McAdams is doing it. But unfortunately she did it so well that it did make. Gave a model for people. Yeah.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know. It's kind of picked up a lot from that. Yeah. Like the way she was mean and it was so cool and funny and influential. It's like, oh my God, I love that. It's like that. I love that. Yeah. Like the way she was mean and it was so cool and funny and influential. It's like, oh my God,

I love that bracelet. It's like that. I love that. Yeah. I love that bracelet. I love that for you. Yeah. And then it's like,

it's, there's something so dark underneath that. Yes. Yeah. And you have to be like, thanks. Cause she's cool.

But then inside you're like, I, why do I feel like shit? Violated. Yeah. I love that bracelet. Where did you get it?

Oh, just, you know, Claire's. That's really cool. Thanks. And like, it's just sort of like that. And then you're like, let me think about that for weeks. Why do I feel like I was just, like, talk about spells. Now I won't stop thinking about it. The true witches.

The true witches. Middle school girls. Middle school. Here to be in Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing. New York City. Everyone is a gossip. No one gets a happier life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion.

And below deck sailing. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.

Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.

Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we

experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of I heart women's sports. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what folks?

We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes. I'm a dude. You're a dude. And dudes on dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about them.

And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dude. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games.

We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose.

My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part had me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't

right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I think it's time for I Don't Think So Honey. So we are going to do our segment here where we take 60 seconds to truly rail against something in culture that needs a railing.

I have something and I feel it's something in the culture we haven't yet spoken on. Yeah. And I used to feel complicated about it and now I feel definitive about it. Okay. This is really, really important. This is Matt Rogers.

I don't think so many times starts now. I don't think so. I think it's time starts now. I don't think so, honey, the discourse around the screen after you buy something that says to tip. Guys, if you don't want to tip because you bought a water bottle,

just hit 0%. I am not behind you in the line judging you for anything unless the person has done a service where they deserve to be tipped. I personally always hit tip because I was in the service industry for 10 years. I think about the pandemic when people did not have those jobs for one and a half to three years, depending. I do that. I tip. That doesn't mean I think I'm

fucking better than you. And this discourse around, well, they shouldn't have the screen that asks for tip because I feel bad. What if someone's looking over my shoulder? My God, that is so much more embarrassing talking about that and about how, well, I shouldn't have to tip. Then it would be for me to be behind you and see that you didn't tip. It is so much more humiliating to talk about how upset you are

that you're being asked to tip someone. Five seconds. And they discuss this on America's biggest horror podcast, The Daily, and I hated every second of it. That's one minute. They did talk about it. Sabrina's having easy. Don't tip if you don't want to tip. I know. Why was that a big deal?

Because people feel like they're being like manipulated, but I have to tell you, when you're being asked a question, would you like to tip or not? That's not manipulation. No. It's a question. And it's an opportunity for you to give gratuity to someone who probably is making a lot less than you make. Because didn't the pay go down?

Like they actually need tips to supplement their salary. There was this whole episode of The Daily that I listened to and I was shaking my head the whole time because I realized that not everyone, if you really don't work in the service industry, you actually don't know. So let me just say, if you're unsure of it, like service workers make their money on tips. Like that is just period. So if you're going into a restaurant and you're thinking like, oh, well, my Coke was late or my this was a little bit too cold or whatever the fuck. If you're like, I'm not going to tip, you are contributing to that person just not making money. So if that's going to sit well in your spirit,

like I'm not tipping because of this, like fine, whatever, whatever makes you sleep at night. But that's totally different than this thing with the screen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's like, it's not, I swear to God, I don't know how you guys feel or anyone feels. I'm never behind someone when they buy a salad at Fresh & Co and looking and being like, well, are you going to tip?

That's not something like, if you want to, great. If you don't, I'm not upset with you. I'm not going to tap you on the shoulder and be like, hey, I thought that was really lame. Like, it's in your own head. Talk to your therapist about it. Don't talk to me about it. It's really simple, actually,

because it's just the convergence of two things, which is one, like, tipping is part of transactional things in our society. And then the other thing is, like, now we have, like, we media everything through a screen. And so, like, you're just going to be asked, do you want to tip? And that's okay.

No one's, it's literally no gun to your head. Right. And people act like there is. And I think it's this, it just, it's like speaks to something else, which is that person on the other end. It's a little bit telling on yourself. It is. Because you're like, well, they didn't do anything to deserve that.

It's like, first of all, who are you to decide what they do and do not deserve to begin with? And also it wasn't like the person asked you, like, would you like to tip me? It's a thing on the screen. I just don't like it. It feels very elitist to me and superior. And also primarily extremely uncool to be like really in the weeds about like this thing on the screen. It's like just hit 0% or hit no. Just do that. Wow. Yeah. That's a good, that is a good one. We got to the bottom of it. Yeah, we did. We decided. Okay.

No, we decided. Yeah. So this is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. I have a weird one. I think it's important. Okay. I think it's important.

Okay. This is Bo and Yang's weird, but important I Don't Think So Honey. This time starts now. I don't think so honey glass, like if it breaks, like that's bad.

So bad. And like it is and like like I'm looking at a window right now like anyone could just break that open and like hurt someone or hurt themselves. Like should everything be lucite now? I'm thinking like should surely there is something cost effective

environmentally not terrible that it can be glass that is not shatterable unless there is something cost effective, environmentally not terrible, that it can be glass that is not shatterable. Unless there is some emergency protocol thing. But do you agree with me? Right? Like we have no need for glass in the way that we used to, unless there's like an artful aspect to it. Like there's a medium,

like you're blowing it and you're making a beautiful vase. Then it's acceptable. That's acceptable. But if it's a window or if it's like a drink, if it a beautiful vase. Then it's acceptable. That's acceptable. But if it's a window or if it's like a drink, if it's drinkware, if it's stemware. Yeah.

I think that's scary. I think about Kill Bill Volume 1 when Vivica Fox is telling her daughter to not walk in the living room because she might cut herself. I think about that all the time. Like you can cut yourself.

And that's one minute to say nothing of the insane, very jarring sound of glass breaking. It's really scary. It's heartbreaking. I know. I was like, if someone forgot, they could just walk through this wall.

Right. It can be so painful. It is painful. I did that at the store, The Row. You did that at The Row? No. Because it's at this fancy location in LA. Where the glass is so clean.

The glass is so clean and it's so thick. And I couldn't buy anything. Everything was so fucking crazy expensive. I love their clothes, but they're so expensive. And as I was leaving, I tried to leave as like a joke, like, because I wasted everybody's time. Like, I was like, just trying to get out there, like, well, I'm not buying

anything I tried on, but, you know, whatever. So I was like, so da-da-da-da-da-da. And then it was so hard that they had to take me, sit me down, offer me water in a glass. It was a tray. A glass tray. It was a glass. No, no, no, no. But it was a tray with a glass on it.

You said, get that away from me. It's my enemy. And I was like, no! And I smashed it down. And I cut my finger. No! And then it was a glass bottle of water. And I really enjoyed it.

Yeah. While they were looking at my nose, trying to make sure I didn't break it. And I was like, I don't know if I did or not. It's just what it is. Also, are you superstitious? Yes. Why? You know what happens if you are you superstitious? Yes. Why?

You know what happens if you break a mirror. Of course. What? Seven years of bad luck. I'm very superstitious. That's the most I've ever heard. I thought that was about hats or shoes on the bed. That's also really bad.

In fact, I feel- I do it all the time. I'm like, I shouldn't have done that. Oh God, no. Shoes have to be on the ground at all times. If shoes are ever put on a table or something higher off the ground, that's really bad luck. No, God, no. Shoes have to be on the ground at all times. If shoes are ever put on a table or something higher off the ground, that's really bad luck. It's bad luck.

My mother did this to me. Mine too. Yeah. And hats on the bed. I've never heard hats on the bed. But now I do. You know what I can't do ever? If I sleep with socks on. When I was a kid, they told me that if you sleep with socks on, the boogeyman will come out of the closet and get you.

And so now to this day, I don't do it. That feels like an agenda by your parents. It's very random. Why didn't they want you to wear socks? I think what it was, was my mom's like demon brother when she was younger. My uncle told her like, if you wear your socks, like the boogeyman is going to come out of your eyes. She is a whiz. And terrified her. And then she told me that when I was a kid, not prescriptively. my uncle told her like if you wear your socks like the boogeyman's gonna come out of your eyes she's a weeb

and terrified her and then she told me that when I was a kid not prescriptively just like this is what my uncle your uncle told me and then I was like

well now I can't do it walking under a ladder it's a huge no walking under a ladder yes you're right worse there's also

well I wouldn't say black cat. Oh, no, black cats, I go the other way. Black cats, no, black cats do. I don't fuck with that. Black cats are good luck. They're sweet. They're the least adopted animals in a shelter because everyone thinks the same thing. Because they're cursed.

Because they are witches familiars. But you know what? They are adorable. They're wonderful. They're just the same. Or someone else. You know what I mean? I'm just too scared

to even be like I just I can't it's at this point if it crosses your path it's a core belief then you're like I'm done

no I will go the other way I will inconvenience myself I'm not kidding like it's like it's a thing okay you're not

you're not well my favorite line ever I'm not superstitious but I am a little little stitious from the office you're a little stitious I am a little stitious from the office. You're a little stitious. I'm a little stitious.

A little stitious. A Nova Scotia stitious. Nova Scotia stitious. Did you say a Nova Scotia? No. Oh, I always say that for like a little bit. A Nova Scotia. Just a Nova Scotia.

I love it. Oh, that's really good. That's major laser. That's major laser. Major laser? When something's major, we say that's major laser, like the artists, like Diplo. Yes.

Yes. Fantastic. Fantastic. Okay, so we're under the impression that you have something. I do. I don't know if it's been done. I feel like it's been done before.

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's okay. This is Catherine Hans. I don't think so, honey. Okay. Time starts now. Honeys, I don't think

that anyone under the age of 25 needs to get a butt implant. Oh! I just don't think so. Speak on it. I think if you are blessed enough think that anyone under the age of 25 needs to get a butt implant. I just don't think so. I think if you are blessed enough to have a long long life, no one really knows where they're gonna fall. And the upkeep they're gonna need for that butt.

They're also just, who knows if that, it is a fad. We don't know if everybody's going to need an ass that big for, you know, things come and go. Right. The images of what a person is supposed

to look like come and go. We remember Kate Moss. That could be a thing again. She did not have a bubble butt beyond bubble butts. And also I feel like you can tell now. I mean, you obviously can tell. Yeah.

I can't. But I think you can't. No, go, go, go, keep doing it. I'm sorry. Okay, but I do feel like because that is also the, anyway, that's always the, I'm not sorry about that.

Okay. Go on though. Honey, honey. Honey. I think also because that only leads, that opens the door to more and more. Yes, yes. And you're so young and beautiful.

And then the cheeks and everything, like it just becomes a money cipher. You save that money, honey. Save it, honey. I would agree. Save it until you feel like you really need it and you're like fully formed. Like you're still a zygote. Zygote. Oh my God. Yes. Zygotic. still a zygote. Zygote. Oh my God.

Yes. Zygotic. I use zygote every day of my life. I love that word. Blastula. Do you say blastula? I don't, but I might have a blastula. Blastula is like the first myosin.

When it starts to grow a bit. First mitosis. Blastula. Blastula is like pre-zygote almost. Oh God, I love it. It gets fertilized and then blastula, I think. Oh my God, we were all blastula. We were all blastulas at one point.

Did you know this? Pre-med in college. Oh my God, I did not. I have some things I need you to diagnose. I thought I had a blastula in my inner thigh. Maybe you're gonna have to check it out. I'll check for any blastulas on you. So honey, I don't think so.

Okay, are you observing? I have some questions. Are you observing that people under 25 are getting the surgery? Yes. Really? Okay. Damn, I'm not paying attention.

I know. Second of all. Maybe that's regional though. No, no, no, no. Who knows? It definitely is. Yeah, I think so. I mean, yeah.

Yeah, I haven't seen it here. It literally is upkeep because you got to keep it up. You have to keep it up. I'm like, do they have like a sling that they wear to keep it up at night? What's crazy is it's like a girdle for your ass. Now you can do the injections in it too. It's like the BBL.

The BBL. What's that? Butt lift. It's like a butt lift. Oh, right. Yeah. And also it's like when you're that age, like you still have like a high and tight ass.

Like you don't need. No, I know. You still have access to the class and staying healthy. Yeah. I think there's like a, there's like a weird, like I don't have to do anything now, but then it's like,

Ooh, that's what, what's that teaching you? What's like, you know, you're just going to find the shortcut to everything. To everything. And then you'll go on a Zempik

and then it'll just be an ass walking around. With sunglasses on it. Bones and an ass. Yeah. An ass and teeth. Ass and teeth. And you can tell? I can.

Okay. Because they are, I mean, I think if they're good, I wouldn't know. But if they're not, I wouldn't know. But if they're not, it's so absurd. Yeah. It's like Jessica Rabbit.

You know what I mean? You're just like. It's like intense. If you say anything has like collagen in it. It's like earlier when I said what it left here. I'm like, well, I have. I need collagen. I'm losing it by the minute. But have you seen their like blood one?

Oh, wait. Is blood and deed one? Is that the Bella Hadid one? Because now Bella Hadid has one. No, this is a special doctor one who literally is like, it's like a heart, you know, blood of a cow, you know, like bone marrow. You got to look it up. And then they like make it into a smoothie and you're like, ooh. Yeah.

What? Blood and organs. Blood and organs. This must be good. Nothing like blood and organs smoothie on a hot day. You know what? I'll try it. Just after a long Uber drive.

And you know, I have to say, speaking of, today's a hot day. We all needed some relief. We came in here. Oh, I'm relieved. And we all touched. We reached Nirvana today. Having you here on this show. We all needed some relief. We came in here. Oh, I'm relieved. We all touched. We reached Nirvana today. Having you here on this show. I do feel like it.

The coven was completed today. This is a coven right here that I felt like I got to. And we're including everyone. Also, look what we're doing. There we go. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. My diamond ring that's not mine.

What is it? No, it's got a couple diamonds in it. It's gorge. Oh, thanks. What are you doing the rest of the day? You going to this show later? I'm going to this show later. You have more press?

And now I have a little... And then Sardi's. Yeah. Oh, and I'm doing Seth Meyers. Oh, my God. Which will be really fun. I will.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We love him. He's a peach. Okay, yeah. I totally will. No, we love him. He's the best in the biz. He's the sweetie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I totally will. No, we love him. He's the best in the biz. He's the sweetie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you're going there now. I'm going to go there now. Y'all can share a car to 30 Rock. No, no, no, no, no. Don't worry about me. I have to go and just hole up in an office just to like get on a Zoom.

It's not that cheap. 30 Rock stuff. Wait, are we in 30 Rock right now? I don't know what the fuck is happening. No, but we are in line. We're close. We're close. Who am I? Who are you? You're't know what the fuck is happening. No, but we are in line. We're close. We're close. Who am I?

Who are you? You're Catherine Han. Okay, thank you. And who you are is the fucking best and the star of Agatha O'Long which by the way

I'll say again is so much fun. Congratulations on it because the Thank you. That was a great segue. No, I know. I'm back.

He's back. But the bar had to be high because everyone loved WandaVision so much and just know that like all the joy and all the like

fun and intrigue and suspense and coolness I can't wait I'm gonna go back and watch the because we have four so I'm gonna watch

the next two and then be so annoyed when I ruined it for myself because then they don't the fifth and sixth ones won't come out until later

but it's worth. It feels like an amazing sequel to WandaVision in a way but yet it's still its own thing. But its own bird completely. Yeah.

But like the S it's the same writer who's incredible. Yeah, Jack Schafer. Yes. Yeah. She's amazing. That brain.

It's so clear you're number one on the call sheet and that you've like made this such a special project for everybody. No, I'm just saying that is a huge important thing.

And thank you so much for being here. Oh, you guys, I was so looking forward to this and it disappointed. But that's all right. That's all right. We wheel you out. We bring him in for the last one minute. Well, that sucked. No, this was so fucking fun.

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And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question.

What kind of dudes are these dudes? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day.

Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. This week, Charlamagne Tha God sits down with Vice President Kamala Harris for a conversation you don't want to miss.

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