Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "GET THE GORE OFF THE TV, I'M NOT WATCHING *THAT*!" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: October 6, 2021

This episode, which largely tackles fear from both a conceptual and emotional standpoint, has been called one of the "smartest episodes of all time" by both Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang. After creating art almost immediately (readers: please send us your pictures!), our hosts discuss The Squid Game and how it excited Bowen and triggered Matt, the insane return of The Morning Show, cartoonish violence vs. grounded violence in film and television, haunted house culture, what the girls are smoking lately and anticipation about what Kyle Richards "is giving" in the upcoming Halloween Kills. Also, ADELE IS COMING, a deep-dive on "what Hoku is doing right now" (there are many red flags), KIM K IS COMING, and recaps of this week's Potomac and Salt Lake City. Have you been enjoying the simple pleasures of autumn? Should it be called "30"? Do you think Bowen's Crystal Kung Minkoff impression will earn him an Emmy next year? Watch this space. And Happy Ethical Streaming, everyone! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Cultururistas calling start the app dead ass dead ass oh my god wait this makes me miss set life i accidentally put the cadence of why don't you in there and that's why don't you get the berry why don't you know what the berry why don't you readers publicists i recently i do this every now and then with my sister, Matt Rogers, where I remind him of a brilliant thing he's done.

Because he does so, the volume is so much that he often forgets. And I was, we were talking about the, I mean, this is just like a little earworm that's just stayed with me. But on the first episode of the 12 Days of Culture, which is our Christmas. An underrated Lost Culture moment in time. People don't talk about the 12 Days of Culture, which is our Christmas... An underrated Lost Culture moment in time.

People don't talk about the 12 Days of Culture enough. They don't. You're right. Anyway, my sister was... We were playing Marry, Fuck, Kill with McDonald's menu items. And he posed to me, Marry, Fuck, Kill, Strawberry Milkshake, McFlurry, or you mix different sodas at the soda fountain.

That's like a suicide. For creations, yes. They were called suicides. I quote my friend. This is not the moment, but my friend said, you know my gay little ass was up there making creations. Drinking creations. Basically, you all know,

if you're an adventurous kid with a cup in your hand at a McDonald's, the soda fountain becomes an endless world of possibilities. Would you say that was your first canvas? I think that was the culture that made me say culture was for me. I think just to cut to it. My first canvas as an artist? Yeah, I guess so. It was the first time I was learning about ratio in terms of flavor.

And that is art that is art the blend i would be willing to bet that a lot of readers and publicists out there their first moment of artwork was at the mcdonald's soda because they were creative you know what i mean and their parents that their parents i think that they definitely looked at them at the soda swap whatever you're gonna call it so it certainly was the soda swap, whatever you're going to call it. Soda swap? Well, it certainly was a soda swap when I was there, because I was swapping all the flavors, honey. Sounds sexual, almost.

But I digress. But I digress. So, basically, what I'm saying is, like, these parents were watching their kids at the soda swap, and they're saying, no, no, no. And what do you think they said? Let him create. Let her create.

Let her do what she's going do at the front let her find it and that's how you get vanilla coke you know what i mean like because i thought that's what you i thought you were gonna say and that's how you get vanessa carlton as if she was one of the first vanessa carlton you can't stifle her creative impulses at the soda swap otherwise she's not gonna write an amazing piano intro to one of the best pop songs of all time was it you that i was recently talking about this song with i don't know i literally i was in i was in the car with greta this is what it was we were driving on largemont and we suddenly knew we needed to listen to a thousand miles it was like white checks it was like the scene in white

checks it was sort of like the scene in white chicks um yes very much so and we sort of were just like we must we must listen to that song right now as soon as possible and you know what greta told me a little factoid about that song i'm scared she originally apparently there was like a documentary about the song or whatever like what there was something there's some piece of media out there that like takes a look at the creation of the song and vanessa carlton said greta can tell us more about this when she comes back on the pod but vanessa carlton said she did not want to do if i could fall into the sky she didn't want to do the riffing she didn't want to go pass me by she didn't want to do the riffing. She didn't want to go, pass me by.

She didn't want to do any of that. She wanted it to just be the same. And the person that was producing the song said, no, you need to give the girls variations on the last chorus. They were right, unfortunately. They were 100% right. So that was a moment of, at the soda swap, you say, well, but tell her she shouldn't put, you know,

vitamin C in there with the Coke and the Sprite. Like, at a certain point, you do step in, and that was that producer. Actually, my theory is that Vanessa Carlton only did two flavor mixtures her whole entire childhood. And when other kids were saying, let's mix it up and give variation she said no i want it to be the same which is not the right instinct to have as an artist unfortunately

well especially not as a young artist you know what i mean that's when she can make mistakes that's when she can make mistakes absolutely when she's when she's fighting within herself like am i gonna put you know high c in with the Dr. Pepper and the Sprite? A seasoned person who's been in that McDonald's for some time would know that's when you stop. But when you're a young artist and you can make mistakes like that, guess what? She's going to find herself on the world stage in not so many years. And she's going to have to have a hit after a hit. And she only had a couple. She had a couple, but they're great. No, that's okay. she's going to have to have a hit after a hit. And she only had a couple.

She had a couple, but they're great. No, that's okay. That's nothing to apologize for. She's had a great life. I need to finish the reference. Go ahead. I think Vanessa Carlton at the McDonald's, at the Soda Fountain, is one of the most indelible Las Culturistas

images. Speaking of art, we just made art. My sister, I'm reaching out my hand to the camera, holding it from across the country. We just created something. We created something together

and it will stand the test of time. An image. An image. And that sometimes is, I always say to anyone that wants to become an artist, if you do one thing every day

that reminds you who you are, and I'm pitting my chest right now, that you're an artist, you succeeded that day. And my sister, we succeeded in creating that art, that image of Vanessa at the soda swap. I'm crying. Do you see the tears running down my face? Vividly. This is an opportunity for the readers and publicists. I want to see your images.

We've given you the auditory imagery. I want to see your images. We've given you the auditory imagery. I want to see your Photoshop's, your paintings, your crayon drawings of Vanessa Carlton as a child at the soda fountain. This would be my tip to everyone out there. Use your imagination to sort of think of an

image of a time, of a place, of a person and send in your ideas of what you thought. Think of a picture. Think of a time of a place of a person and and send in your ideas of what you thought like yeah think of a picture think of a picture and tell us what the picture looks like and that's what we're asking you guys to do right now absolutely um i am crying with emotion i we still i still haven't gotten i'm trembling oh my god titanic Titanic vibes. We still haven't gotten to the reference. So, Matt Rogers saying

start the show deadass. Was it start the show or start the recording? I said start the show deadass. It was a blend of two different things. Yeah, but then a further blend another soda in the soda cup yeah an inflection

a delivery on the first episode of our 12 days of culture where we talked about mcdonald's mary fuck kill strawberry milkshake mcflurry soda creation suicides suicides i said mayor i said fuck i said marry one thing i said fuck strawberry milkshake and you said ooh yes get the berry why don't you and it's such a beautiful delivery you've latched on to that get the berry why don't you

it's so funny what I tried to do was I tried to give you black china with cut the cameras and I accidentally brought in something i knew you enjoyed which was the get the berry get the berry why don't you and it sort of became a start the start the ep dead ass dead ass beautiful like sort of culture coming together you know two different cultures true god the layers on this are wild true creation

and culture coming together i yes i feel like an artist today and i don't feel that way every day no no no do you feel that you feel like an artist because you're inspired by so much art around you like do you feel especially like able to create such brilliance as we already have done on the episode? Because lately you're feeling extra inspired. Tell me about how inspired you feel. I really don't feel that inspired, to be honest. And that's okay. I just, I think it's one of those things, to be honest, where you're with your sister.

And something flies free. Something flies free. It's like you were the other wing to the aircraft that I'm the other half of. We're two halves of the same plane. You need two. It's actually a rule of culture. When it comes to wings on an airplane, you need two. And which rule is that?

Rule of culture number six. That's so close to being number one. It's not even funny. It's not even funny. There's so close to being number one. It's not even funny. It's not even funny. There's so much culture to talk about. I want you to understand something straight off the top. Are you talking to me or talking to the readers? I'm talking to you.

Okay. Oh, you think I'm going to be mad? I want to ask for grace. I really tried to watch squid game it was too much for me when did you stop can i stopped after the after i started to get going in the first episode like after red light green light i just my god you're missing out on so much but that's okay and i don't want it this to become about that. I just want to It's not. I'm just saying. I want to just

be honest that I tried to watch the show. It put me in a state of anxiety, and it just got a little too real for me that I had to back off. But I want you to explain to me everything you feel. Well, first

of all, I just want to talk to you as you feel. Well, first of all, Oh my God. I just want to talk to you as a sister. I feel like so, this is, this is just a conversation and I might be, I might be wrong and insensitive. So please let me know if I am.

If you, if you cross over into insensitive, I'm going to tell you. You will let me know. Yeah. Please. When I feel like you're being insensitive towards me. No, truly.

I'm telling you like no bullshit no lie no lie no trickery no fakery this is real talk between sisters go if i'm being insensitive you have to let me know a hundred percent i think i sometimes feel that i don't get to talk about the culture i love so much that I'm consuming because I mean this is true of both of us sometimes I haven't seen or appreciated something that you love and

but whenever it falls on me whenever it happens to fall on me I think well damn I guess I guess I have no one to talk to about this and I feel like I never externalize my feelings about it because my sister is too scared, too busy to play Breath of the Wild.

Wasn't about being busy? What was it about? It was about... It was too stressful? It was stressful to figure out because the game is very complicated. In order to even start up a nintendo switch you have to go through many obstacles it's actually one of the most not even they've been saying this they've

been saying this that there's actually been news reports about how one of the hardest things to do is to figure out how to start a new game on nintendo switch it goes death divorce moving figuring out how to start a game on nintendo switch and let me tell you something a couple of those things are inevitable so when i can just skip one that's actually okay and i can't wait can i but can i say something real which one's the inevitable one moving you're gonna get divorced bitch and you're staying right where you are in that in that bleep neighborhood of la i bleep neighborhood of LA. I bleeped it because I didn't want people to know where you lived.

Yeah. What were you about to say? I cut you off. All I'm saying is that I want to participate in these things, but it physically upsets me to watch because I'm under such duress. It's just not for me.

And it has nothing to do with anything other than how i physically feel when i'm watching it because it just doesn't give me the joy that it gives everyone else and that is 100 fine it's so fine it's valid and it's not personal towards you my sister i know but i feel like it just it works out this way a lot where i feel like we don't i don't ever talk about the shit I like because no one ever knows what I'm talking about. And you're using Breath of the

Wild and Squid Game as examples? No, no. I mean, yeah, at the top of my head, those are my examples. But it's okay. But I did play Breath of the Wild. It was just too stupid for my dumb high ass to figure out how to play it. I told you what happened to me in play Breath of the Wild. It was just too stupid for my dumb high ass to figure out how to play it. I told you what happened to me in that section of the ride.

The section of the level. It is like a ride if you think about it. I love thinking about it that way. I love video games. You have to think of video games in this way. It's a Disney, it's an Orlando ride that you can ride at home without leaving home. You know what? I'm actually going to say something straight up.

And I know that I have readers out there and? I'm actually going to say something straight up, and I know that I have readers out there and publicists that are going to agree with me, because I'm not going to joke around about it anymore. This is the truth. When we were little, we played video games and they were straightforward and they were easy and they were fun.

I took a break from video games for some odd years. I try to get back into it. All of a sudden, the girls are complicated. I tried to play. When we were staying at the Fire Island house, Tomas was playing. What was he playing? He was playing a bunch of different games. He might have been playing, I think he's a Fortnite girl.

Fortnite, that's the one. The one that everyone loves is Fortnite. You put the controls in my hands, I don't even know how to go up or down. It's pretty intuitive, I promise you. And it's over time you learn these things. Okay, video games are a specific example, but like

at the same time I have immense grace and I feel bad even bringing this up because I do feel like I'm being insensitive and you didn't call me out on it bad even bringing this up because I do feel like I'm being insensitive, and you didn't call me out on it for even bringing this up. I just, but then I think about,

oh, well, if Matt is, if for people who are watching Squid Game who are physically suffering and, like, panicked and nervous to watch this, then please do not watch it. You even said yourself that you said, well, you came on your story, and you said,

it's like when people die in this, they die in real life. Like that's how- That's an observation. That's an observation I have about the way violence is beautifully intentionally portrayed and produced on the show. Like certain,

the way it cuts to like certain violent things is so raw. And you're like, how did they fake that or special effects that like right that was my only comment so you're saying that the violence is very grounded and raw and like it's different than like american violence and that it's it's not as yes i said this too yes it's different it's different korean or like i would just broaden it to like asian media violence is different from western media violence where it's like a little too sexual a

little too like focused on like the anatomy like the anatomy and this is something that's just like it's it's very cinematic there's a cinematic conventional way of portraying violence in western film and let's say but with korean dramas for this in particular for alice in borderlands i believe like i haven't seen it yet but like it's like um it's like it's just someone dying like someone gets killed and that's it like that's all you that's all you need you as an audience member need to know i just think it's very cool and refreshing and i just like forgot about that anyway yes sorry so we should say matt and i are both stoned right now. Mm-hmm. Okay, so this is why I'm rambling, maybe. You're not rambling, but here's my point.

You absolutely were able to say whatever it is you wanted to say about Squid Game. And going forward, if you wanted to keep talking about it, you could say whatever you want. You can make the comparisons between American violence and the way that it's done in Korean drama. You can go on and do that. You didn't need me to put myself through something physically uncomfortable in order to expound on this topic. Fine. But I really, I'm just saying, but you really want me to watch it. No, no, no, no, no. I don't want you to watch it anymore because, because I, now I do know that it's not for you. I, I, I truly thought like Matt's not gonna, Matt can handle this. And the fact that you're telling me that you can't i say do not

watch it ever in your life i don't want you feeling this way i love you too much okay i'm just saying that i would have loved to talk to my very smart funny culturally intelligent friend matt rogers well i mean what are you enjoying what tell me what you're enjoying i'm just watching a lot okay so on this most and this is this is just the type of i guess person i am lately where it's just i just want more of the same and maybe that is culturally like dumbing me down and i should just resign as a host of this podcast because no what are you doing i understand that it is boring that i don't i didn't watch squid game but i promise it's for a good reason and i also understand that it's going to be insanely boring for some people that listen to this podcast to hear me say again that the morning

show has re-entered my life and that the the other day I watched Reese Witherspoon and Julianna Margulies make out out of nowhere. And I was watching Jennifer Aniston chop wood in the forest because she's writing a book about her experience. And I'm like, this show is camp and drag. So I've gotten back into that because I really enjoy it. And it doesn't physically threaten me with violence the way that Squid Game literally does. And I know it's not going to send me into an absolute panic so that's what i watched and i will say i did gasp out loud and then get up stand up and clap when reese brotherspoon and juliana margulis had a lesbian kiss in the back of a limousine um but that was as much like visceral,

like physical response it got from me. Whereas Squid Game had me like squirming before the first hour was even up. And so that's why I just decided on one feeling over the other. Of course, that makes complete sense to me. And I just have to ask you many things about, a couple things about Morning Show, but one last thing about

Squid Game, which is you did not even finish the first episode. No, I got till roughly the end, yes. So the answer is you did not finish the first episode. No, I just thought I'm going to do something else. That hurts. That really hurts. No need for you to

take it personally. I'm kidding, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I just think I was talking to my new friend IRL, Riri Chaney. Hi, Riri. Oh, one of the top. One of the top friends to have. One of the top friends.

I saw her on Friday and she said something really great. She said, one of the best ep twos ever in any show. One of the most clever ways to do an episode 2 of a show and I completely agree I was like yes and for these specific reasons because I'll spoil it for you no here's the thing no need to even spoil it because once

I found out I wasn't going to sit and watch it I did sort of dig into what happens in the show and so thematically and everything like that I do understand what's happening got it this is a spoiler alert for episode 2 that they are allowed to go home and they return into what happens in the show and so thematically and everything like that I do understand what's happening. Got it. This is a spoiler alert for episode two. That they are allowed to go home and they return. They're allowed to go home and they're allowed to go home but for a period of time let's just say

and it's just a very great way to like not do flashbacks but like get them into like you see what's at stake for them anyway great. Morning show why? So Reese's character is a little bit, she a little bit gay? I mean, I suppose.

I mean, that's sort of what they're- And Julianna's too? They're sort of like having them look at each other in a way where it's like clearly if, I mean, they're being directed to want to fuck each other throughout and then they have a very intense sort of open mouth kiss in the back of a limo.

And so that would sort of suggest to me that one or both characters are gay or questioning or queer questioning yes interesting do you think it do you how do you think it's it's is it working is it being used to like i mean i think what i like about the show is it sort of reminded me of the way we were talking in the beginning of the episode about asking the readers to send in what kind of pictures they would like us to consider. It's sort of like every episode of the morning show is sort of like a third grade teacher comes in

and says to a class of people, like, okay, today what we're going to do is we're going to write an episode of TV and anything can happen in it. And, you know, it should feel like real, like it could really happen. But if you use your imagination, characters can say and do things whatever you want.

And it's like the class got the whole day to write an episode of television. And then whatever is written at the end of the day is what they film and put on Apple TV Plus. And it is the morning show. Like, that's just the end of the day is what they film and put on Apple TV Plus. And it is the morning show. Like, that's just the energy of it. It's the story pirates energy. It makes me smile.

Yeah, it sort of is. It's like, you know, like Reese Witherspoon and Julianna Margulies are having a conversation. They kiss in the middle of a sentence. And then a huge asteroid is headed towards the earth. And they're like, we have to go report on this. Like, that kind of third grade manic energy is happening. Wait, that is incredible that a world,

a potentially world, yeah, world ending stories breaks while these two characters make out and they have to run and report on it. That's, that sounds like the camp, the level of camp that would be attributed to the morning show. I've only seen one episode of it and it was the

third episode and it was jennifer aniston yelling to a boardroom of men that was very mommy dearest and i loved it and i thought okay i get what the show is about i understand why people like it i have not i'm sorry that i have not seen the show yeah and in that scene she does call everyone bozos and that's i guess what i mean when i say like um a third grader wrote it like and i do think like let me just clarify like i'm not insulting the writing staff i think this is actually a genius way to put a show together i think this is like i i you have me watching still like i am i am still there watching it so no one should take any offense or change a thing. Keep going.

Like they are really going to do the coronavirus in the show. They are? Yes. So proverbially that is the asteroid I'm talking about. Like there's literally scenes, Bowen, where like there'll be two characters in the hallway. Just like, should we report on this coronavirus thing? Someone behind them will sneeze and then another person will just go no it's probably not a very big deal uh anyway what else today and they just go sort of walk and like start other dialogue like they send a character

on like is this gonna be our first great piece of covid like media scripted content and like wow i don't know if it'll be the first great one but i will say this there was a shot in the first episode that's like makes it clear that they're going to be tackling what happens when like new york empties right the hell out and like covid comes to play so we will see we will see i just hope that they can still keep the bigness of how stupid it all is. Yeah. While in like a COVID world. You know what I mean?

Because we need the pulp. COVID's not very pulpy. It's not. It's very stagnant, actually. COVID, like famously, everyone kind of just like stayed put there. You just kind of sit around if COVID's in the world. Yeah. You don't really do much.

Nothing really motivates you to leave the house. You know? Anyway. Well, I'm so glad you're enjoying it. Is it a comfort that you're watching? Because I legitimately watch Squid Game as a comfort. It's amazing. And I guess that just speaks to two different personality types.

Watching Squid Game as a comfort is, that is harrowing to me. And I will also say this. This Friday, this is where I'm not even spooky. I'm not even like a spooky horror loving person. It was just comforting to watch. I'm sorry I keep going. This Friday you're going to Horror Nights. Cut to me going to Horror Nights on Friday because I fucking love it.

So that's I guess a little bit of a internal conflict. Yeah, it sounds like you need to resolve this. Well, can I just physically explain? So, when I'm in, like, a haunted house or, like, an immersive, scary setting, I feel as if, as though I can get away. Like, I'm very spry. Like, I'm a person with a lot of energy, and so I have to be able to, if I'm in that atmosphere, we have to go.

If you watch a movie, there's no escape. I have too much energy to sit here and just, like, feel that anxious about something happening. Trust me, like, I don't know if I've talked to you about this, but, like. What? There was, like, a phase in my, like, early high school, like, era where, like, i was going to a horror movie every week and they were making they were driving me crazy because that era we've talked about this where that era of horror was fucked up yeah it was like it was like a it was like a time when it felt like every week there was a new horror movie in cinemas. And one woman was getting raped at least. Right.

Like, it was bad. Very much so. But you watched something like Malignant, and you did like it. I have not seen Malignant yet. I think, based on what I'm hearing, I don't know that much about the turn, but based on what I'm hearing,

it sounds like I've heard that it's, quote, the stupidest thing in the world in the best way that I must, I will probably like it and like it's, I've heard that it's quote, the stupidest thing in the world in the best way that I must, I will probably like it and love it. And I feel like I would want to see the thing is I would want, I would want to see that with you. Is that because why, why?

Because, because I want to be there with you when the stupidest thing I've ever seen on a, in a film happens. And I see it for the first time. And I, like I was with, I was with Joel Kim Booster during Hereditary when

the part in Hereditary happened. And we were both like, I will never forget that moment for the rest of my life with one of my best friends, Joel Kim Booster. And so he, I think, is gonna be like your horror movie friend. I know. Yes, he is. But I would love for you to

also, that's not just one person but they're so scary they are so scary and when someone dies on camera in front of you i don't know what it is i can't shake it like i get too emotionally involved sometimes in this shit where like i just get fucking anxious and i think it definitely i understand the pandemic and i don't i don't want to make you feel bad or explain it but i don't want to make you feel bad i am put in a position where i must i am put in a position where i must okay okay i i don't want you to i don't want you to subset i'm actually like fully over it because ultimately no one can pin me down. No one can pin me down and make me do a goddamn thing.

You're right. You're right. You know what? You're right. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately.

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I like the spooky season and I'm actually like thrilled and very much organizing the haunted house experience I'm doing this weekend yeah but I just with scary movies or with like intense thrillers or with anything with like grounded like you can't run away it just upsets

me i can't you can't run away your only escape is that fucking menu button bitch go back back back take me back to the menu i i will not get get the death off the tv i'm not watching that get the scary shit off the tv i'm not watching that that's the gore off TV. I'm not watching that. Get the scary shit off the TV. I'm not watching that. Get the gore off the TV. I'm not watching that. Gore. An issue.

Gore. And then I go... That's title of app. Get the gore off the TV. I'm not watching that. Get the gore off the TV. I'm not watching that. But then...

And Anna, can we do that in all caps? Thank you. Hot producer, Anna. She's going to type all caps on the episode title. What we actually did enjoy, though, was squad we did love that that had like comparable violence but that but is that what you're talking about when you say american type movie violence oh that's very specific that's like yeah that's like a like magical realism and like like heightened like superhero violence and that i can do that's

why i love true i love like true blood for upset you the first one especially like yes i mean yes like that was like high stakes like real violence and i was just like i just don't love it but then when something is goofy and dumb and it's like essentially minions getting killed like I'm fine okay so interesting see Kill Bill volume one I would say volume one specifically I would say has the most stylized violence where it's like yeah she chops off five men's heads and it's like little cute little water fountains of pink blood like fluorescent blood like it doesn't, it doesn't even look real. And so, therefore, it disarms the audience,

and you're like, oh, okay, that's, like, an art piece. It's like a sculpture. It's like a kinetic sculpture, and it's not, like, an actual person being killed. So that you're okay with. That I'm fine with. It's just, like, when it gets very, like, personal and intense, like, I don't know.

Then I get what you mean. I see. I mean, this is not a spoiler alert squid game it ends in like one of the most graphic fight scenes i've ever seen in my life yeah and you would you would hate it and you would never make it to that and that's okay no i know and that's why i'm like but it is crazy i'm not pushing back on you that's not what I'm doing I know I know you're not pushing back on me you are only encouraging me to become a more realized

version of myself yeah I will say always what is cuckoo bananas is hearing things like most watched show ever of all time more people have watched squid game than like you know.

You know, like Family Matters. Read the Bible, darling. Like, it's out there. And everyone is seeing it. And I'm just like, I can't. You're talking about the world, honey. Korea's loving it. I bet Japan's loving it.

The whole world. The whole world. Every country in South America is watching Squid Game. Yeah. world the whole world every country in south america is watching squid game yeah and that's okay that and it's up to every single citizen of those countries including the united states of america to decide whether or not they can stomach the violence yeah it's a lot how does it feel to be an inspiration man you've inspired me to to a rousing call to action for the world. Don't watch Squid Game if you don't want to. That's what you've inspired me to tell people. But

the thing is, people should definitely go for it if they feel so inclined, because a lot of people love it. Only if and only if they feel so inclined. Yeah. I'm sorry, I'm really cutting you off a lot today. I'm chatty. Maybe you're not. I'm chatty on this weed. Well, because you have, yeah what what are you smoking

i'm smoking okay at this point i am just like the brand ambassador even though i didn't i i never meant to be i just love their stuff sunday school they sell amazing pre-rolls um and i picked these up at med men as soon as i landed in la two weeks ago first place i went to after i checked in my hotel was med men and in beverly grove and i was i was like this is wonderful and it was the first time i'd actually been to med men and knew what i wanted besides like those like bad pens from like three years ago do you remember those pens of the doses pens they were bad i'm sorry i actually don't think that they even had any weed in them they didn't and i think they're i think they went under i'm not seeing them around

anymore and it's because they didn't work there was no weed in them yeah very weird i have these pacific stones have you seen this brand no is it fun it looks fun i very much enjoy them and they are a hybrid and um you know especially like um while i had food poisoning it was just like i was really sitting here and just smoking weed all the time. That's lovely. And honestly, maybe that put me in a state of anxiety where I was like, Squid Game is not going to happen for me. That's okay.

If you rationalize Squid Game fear one more time. No, it's not. I'm not even interested. I'm just thinking. I'm assessing my own... You know what? This actually is interesting. I am entertaining not even interested i'm just thinking i'm i'm assessing my own you know what like and this is this this actually is interesting i am entertaining watching the halloween movie i'm entertaining it

the first one or no the new one that's the new one halloween kills starring kyle richards you you're gonna go for kyle alone i know i think i might be in that demographic that's like if they were holding a clipboard at the end of the movie so why did you come see Halloween Kills and people are like Jamie Lee Curtis man we love her we always want to see her kick his some ass Michael Myers is so scary and then I would be the one fact that's like I really was into

seeing what Kyle Richards was going to give oh my god that's a sketch that's a really funny sketch. I wanted to see what Kyle Richards was giving. Could she act? I don't know. I wanted to see if she was carrying talent.

Oh my god. I wanted to see if she tore. She tore. She didn't back tore. She stopped doing Botox for six months beforehand because she said, quote, an actress should be able to move her face. End quote. I hope we see Michaelael myers's face this time i'm really interested to see if we see his face because actually in no movie ever have you seen his face so like and

we're getting towards the end there so you know um definitely want to see jamie lee kick ass man so fucking hot still do you think kyle richards looks like casey musgraves i just think kyle richards like well i know she was really unhappy with her bangs you know like they made her get those bangs i really want to see how the bangs look on camera and oh my god this is so funny but the one trailer where they had like she does like the whole where she screams yeah she screams the kids what are you just doing out here i'm like yes guys she was good we did a live about it immediately after we were like could you believe I couldn't believe

I will say Bowen and I's favorite bit is to pretend that one of the housewives is going to host us and now like well Sutton's coming to host in the beginning of October we got Sutton's track everybody alright well Erica's been through a lot Erica's been through a lot.

Erica's been through a lot. Does Heidi have a Sutton? Could be interesting. Be interesting. Bowen could do Crystal. And... You would slay as Crystal. You'd be so good.

Sutton... You're an awkward, uncomfortable person. Oh my God. You're killing me with Crystal. Emmy. You should play Crystal Kung Minkoff on the show and then submit that to the Emmys. Bowen showed off his Crystal Kung Minkoff on this episode,

so that's going to be competitive for the win. Like, Bowen had such a moment with Crystal Kungong makeoff like it's like you know like i mean it was just that thing it broke through like pop culture like met snl it was like that that tina that tina sarah palin moment like when bowen did a crystal kong makeoff you know you would wake up on Sunday and all anybody would talk about was Bowen doing Crystal. And she benefited from it, too.

And she loved it, too. And that's why it could be interesting. Crystal's coming through. I know Rob. And she's coming through. And Bowen, you know. A scholar's gonna nail it. A scholar's just gonna be phenomenal. Musical guest, a scholar.

A scholar. By the way, did you watch this week's episode? I did watch this week's episode. She was wearing a top at Wendy's, like, Chesapeake house, which I was like, is that a Versace? She was wearing, like, a Versace top. Yeah.

Yeah, it was a Versace top. Her husband, they did not let speak at all or he was maybe too uncomfortable and didn't say anything because he was like there were literally cameras flying around me um but i was there were not there was not enough escala this episode that's my only no it was a great episode otherwise i mean escala is definitely getting comfortable um sort of being very like candace's like little um lackey lackey as it were um but she i think maybe didn't pick the right week for that because candace is absolutely out of control she's completely out of control literally just when i was starting to tell people i actually love candace now i said she was my favorite housewife so that's what i can't do it anymore no have we have we given deep space to

spin yet on our own time i actually did and i did i have a definitive sort of feeling about why it's not what it could be because she actually doesn't know when to stop like in the very first song which is like an intro track um yeah she says right before the rest of the album starts she goes it's official i hate it here and i'm like we did not need this line like if you were gonna do like a she doesn't have she doesn't know how to edit intro like just let it be what it is and yeah we move forward but she does not she's not a good editor she's not a good editor she really needs to like just know how to take it no one to stop no one yeah no you're right that's that is the first and foremost problem um but just the whole

like i mean she it's sad that she can't realize that her like making fun making fun quote unquote of mia for being a stripper like is not great like is not a good look it's not that's not a good look making fun of everything about her body is not a good look calling her big like the feet thing is funny but like and it's just like so relentless and so vicious fourth time yeah you're like all right lay off the feet white weirdo yeah it's doing and it's almost just what hearing her be like you were found on the corner like you're a hoe you're a whore like it just it's like it crosses over from insulting to becoming like very sex negative and like shamey towards sex work um in a pretty real way and like i never want to be the one to be like you know can't stop talking because she says so much good shit when

you just let her go but at a certain point it's like her hit rate is not happening on this trip and she needs to cool it. Cool it. Cool it. You know, Wendy, Wendy, I love Wendy so much. Like, you can tell, like, because she and Mia have had their differences.

But she really took on, when Mia was telling, was sharing with Wendy, like, her story about her mother. Like, I looked at Wendy, they cut to wendy and i was like wow she's being very empathetic like in a way that makes me like like her a lot is this even worth mentioning i just like i know when do you wendy's booked for the show season seven eight and nine like wendy's here to stay i of course i just think she she might be my favorite of all housewives at the moment Wendy truly

yeah just like in terms of like she knows that when to get messy and then she also doesn't know when to stop like she's got like seven canned catchphrases waiting to go but she's also like she has like the good really outweighs like the fun and the bad I was gonna

say the bad but it's like she like I don't know she's winning the season flat out like she is flat out winning the season and i feel like she was really really winning the season when she said when giselle was like accused her of being jealous or a hater and she goes hating on this and like pointed around to like the fact that they were in like a shitty tent in giselle's driveway while construction was happening and i was just like yeah there's really nothing that giselle can say and also robin gets so bothered and yeah it's interesting yeah she really cares she gets upset upset yeah i wonder you're an asshole wendy you're an asshole that's a good robin impression

yeah i know i'm coming well you know matt is bone is very good friends with someone who has a robin dixon robin could be big could get one you know that great line i am so glad one dixon's not here right now but here could be fun to hear in the studio. You know, Whitney, I'm not putting Whitney out there alone. She needs Heather. She needs Heather. Someone more seasoned,

Whitney's not going to stay live from. She can't do it. Well, she hasn't earned it. She hasn't earned it. And you know, back in the 70s it was only three networks and can we actually for real say though that this podcast does have powers because the way we had sarah sherman on like three weeks before the gag the gag oh my god sarah's sarah had a great first show we love sarah so much she's so funny the

house down and also we have to shout out billy domino billy domino got hired at snl to write one of our first and only straight white cis male guests i think he might have been the first and so that is the full circle moment of all full circle moments did you get to work with him at all um yes he um he sent in a sketch last week that he wrote in his packet that included me and so we like we like worked on that together um didn't get picked but it was very funny um and i have some things some collaborations and that might some collaborations in the works. Oh, in the works? That might be coming in the works. It could be coming around the corner of Bowen Yang Avenue. Coming around the corner. Yes, absolutely.

No, all the new hires are fantastic. I can't wait for everyone to see more. Do you think that, well, you know there's a big musical event happening this fall that sort of everyone's talking about. And I'm not talking about the re-release of Red. I'm talking about Adele returning. Do you think we may see her sweep through the halls? Yeah, I think we may.

I think we may. Can we talk about... Well, no, this might be my own thing, so honey for later. It's Adele-related, potentially. Oh my goodness. But are you feeling positive or negative about her watch this space watch this space oh i'm so excited me too i'm i'm so excited so thrilled i mean she understands what is about to happen she or before she recorded this album she must have understood

that this will be the divorce album no matter what. And that, like, there are emotions to bear. And that she understands the gravity, and I don't want to say pressure, but, like, the stakes that people are putting on this. Oh, I mean, she's gone through an upheaval emotionally, and so we are only trained to expect an avalanche of sadness, grief, expression in general. Maybe we even may get a third of the Someone Like You, Hello trilogy.

Do you think that the album will be called, what, 30? Or will we get an album title? Watch this space, because I do want to remark on this at the end of this show, this program. Oh, so, I understand. I understand. Did I give it away? I gave it away.

No, no, you didn't give it away yet. You didn't give it away yet. Hmm, okay. Well, I'm really interested. Also, she's really the queen of the fall. She remembers that we remember those iconic leaves blowing in the wind in the hello video. And she says, they want fall from me. They want fall.

And like, she even, she scared the other, who we thought was the queen of fall, Taylor, into moving her red re-release back a week. I love it. Like, you know, Taylor, and that's a sign of Taylor respecting Adele. Yeah. To me. I love it when they have no choice. And Taylor Swift had no choice but to move it.

Because she said, Adele's coming in and she wants this day. And then Taylor said, okay. And I won't give it to her. And Taylor Swift said, okay, I'll move. That's power. That's power. Adele, congratulations. That's queendom. Queendom.

Should we bestow the award on Adele? The queendom award? Lost Culture Recess queendom award. This is the first ever. The first, well the first Lost Culture Recess award we've officially given out this is so and it's not one we've announced it's not a category we announced this is this is one of those honorary awards but we're gonna start it off this is the yes this is the lost

culture racist culture award queendom queendom award it goes to a singer that has transfixed audiences all over the world with her candor, with her sheer vocal ability, and the effect that she has had on millions across the globe who cry with her, who grieve with her, and who learn alongside her. Oh my God. This is so beautiful. The Las Culturistas Award, Queendom Award,

goes to Adele. Hello from the outside oh wow why am I crying you that was the funniest thing anyone's ever

done I was touched Adele this is Adele's first Lost Culture East Culture Award. I don't even think she's got many other nominations. Is she even nominated? I don't think she's nominated in other categories because we knew the whole time we were going to award her

the Lost Culture East Culture Award Queen. We knew all along. And you publicists are, right now you're shaking your damn head being like, wow, they really knew all along. They had publicists are, right now, you're shaking your damn head being like, wow, they really knew all along. They had a plan for us. They had a plan for us. And who better for it to go to than Adele? Than Adele.

Adele Adkins, who from the ripe age of 19 has been touching audiences with really her ingenuity um the transparency she brings in her music a vocal tone that is unmistakable, it is clear to us that Adele would be the only singular musical icon Adele in any generation.

In any era, Adele would be the greatest. Simply the best singer of all time. She is the

queendom. She wins the queendom award tonight. Oh my god! You've never been so proud to bestow this is so stupid i can't believe how stoned i am oh my god the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back.

I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome. And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through

did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV Plus. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian and basketball hall of famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby, journalist, sports reporter, basketball analyst, a wife, and I'm also a woman. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts,

you know, just all the shit we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment.

You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had.

We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers.

Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. I'm Julian Edelman.

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Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You need to have that release. I do. It wasn't even a big week. Honey, I'm not talking about last week, okay? I'm just going to be very transparent right now. I don't care about the last week. I care about Kim K week.

I care about Kim K coming to the gig i can't wait are the vibes good so far so far so far the vibes are great and and all i all i've heard about any personal sort of interactions with kim k from people is that she's just cool and great and like is nice to people i'm laughing because i'm thinking what if you had said and all i've heard is that she's incredible at sketch like all i've heard of people that are like know her is that she is psychotically talented at sketch comedy oh my god no kim k wrote she like helped write like britannic shit yes like she helped right it was she helps like the please don't destroy boys yeah yeah kim k like does amazing character work. Kim K teaches character. I bet she would teach character.

Yeah. This is the thing. She's going fully in with the lawyer stuff. She is going to be one of the most iconic lawyers of all time. She will be one of the most famous. She'll be up there with Elle Woods.

Absolutely. In fact, she's in many ways an actual Elle Woods. In many ways, while you can't say Legally Blonde at all, Kim K is living out a kind of iconic Elle Woods narrative. You can never forget that song

at the end of the movie and the beginning yes it bookends that's what i didn't realize until i just put it on the other day because can we do a little deep dive on what hoku is doing right now because i really want to know i really need to know how what is can we let's just i'm just gonna pull up um wow this is insane that you would why the name of hoku out there but like it is true like you do want to know what she's up to like she was a big part of my life she's a huge part of my life she's 40 years old well let's she was born hoku christian ho her name is hoku

christian ho she was born in oahu why are you laughing christian ho is funny like i'm sorry but for the last two words of your name to be christian i'm sorry. I'm laughing. Cancel me. Whatever. No, no, no. Christian Ho. Can we know? We can't find out anything else about her. Because Christian Ho, we're just going to be thinking of Christian Ho the whole time. Okay, so she and her husband jeremy have three children and they serve as arts and worship architects at branches church in dana point california so that's just to cut to the chase she's an arts and worship architect at a church

in california there you go i don't know what that means me neither at all arts and worship are i'm looking at the words and i go what what is that an arts and worship architect architects like this like is that like an imagineer director i'm an imagineer of church i don't know wait a minute this is okay i'm sorry we're i'm just gonna read i don't care about the career stuff i'm sorry no we just skipped right to personal life i'm on her wikipedia okay okay hoku became a christian after first attending church in 1995 yes she said that nothing means more to her than music outside of her family and faith you read the next read the next sentence she married her high school sweetheart jeremy clements in 1999 the couple eloped for quote personal reasons according reasons, according to Hoku.

That's scary to me. Later saying that she was scared to tell her father because of his harsh attitude towards boys she previously dated and how young she was at the time. This is all very red flag to me. I think she's hiding something. I think that there's a lot going on here. I mean, musical style and artistry. So, let's read here she's been frequently compared to fellow pop singers christina aguilera and britney spears however i don't know how

frequently but they noted hoku's distinct style attributing it to the singer's christian faith it's not very comfortable for me to be a sex symbol hoku says especially because of my faith that's why i enjoy being involved with the younger kids because they relate to me being the girl next door so she was virginal actually walking the walk of virginal christian pop star not like these other girls who christian ho more like well this is is this not a red flag to you i enjoy being involved with the younger kids yeah no there's i don't know there's a lot of red flags with with with hoku is she talking about being like an arts and worship architect no does that mean you work with kids i think that she was

talking about when she performs her concerts she likes to look out in the crowd and see a lot of younger kids involved with the younger kids is what's throwing me like i think a lot a lot is throwing me it's turning out about hoku's story like a lot of i'm freaking i'm legitimately freaked out it's like whitney on salt lake i have the fucking chills oh did you watch salt lake uh lisa i loved it i Casino Night. I love Lisa's meltdown. I love Angie, the new one. I'm literally so upset. I'm literally so upset right now. I'm heartbroken right now.

Angie outshone Jenny. I'm sorry, Jenny's Jenny's toast. Jenny is a flop. I was like, this one, there's actually something going on. Angie gets it. The lights are on upstairs with Angie. Jenny, I'm like, what? I just think it's truly a difference between Jenny not knowing

what the job, what the assignment is, and Angie out the gate is like, okay, I'm going to throw a party. I'm going to get into a fight about it with one of the housewives about my party, and then all this other shit, and here's my deal. I have a trans kid. This is what the audience needs to know about me right off the top. Boom.

Genius. Let me just, let's just go down the list. She got to throw an event. She got a backstory where she has a trans child. She's way hotter than her husband. She turns looks. She did a costume change at her own party. She had a fight with and told us she was best friends with the same housewife

in one episode. She's related to one of them. She fucking... Oh my God, the list goes on. The list goes on. And she had more than one confessional, and she got to say these words. I do think Lisa is capable of meddling in my event.

Amazing. I said, welcome. That's, that she just distilled the quintessential thing about housewives. I do think that, wait, what'd she say? I do think Lisa is capable of meddling in my event. That's so rich. What a rich sentence.

I mean, you could only say it in a confessional on housewives. Like, it's a sentence that doesn't belong anywhere else. I do think Lisa is capable of meddling with my events. I mean, I think we have our first housewife who is coming in and knowing the med- Like, I think she's doing this as a bit, because she knows what to do. She knows- she's too smart. Mm-hmm. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, I mean, it feels like she's operating at a level maybe the rest of them aren't, which I think this show needs because i think salt lake city is lacking a grounded presence i think that probably the most grounding presence is meredith is but even oh interesting but even meredith like exists heather is a very grounding presence as well okay so yeah heather and i think like meredith because she keeps being like no what's happening with my son brooks and jen is crazy and i won't talk to her if she's gonna act like this like that's a very grounded place to come from whereas everyone else is like entertaining jen in a way where i'm like what why she's insane but i still think the show could use someone like angie because we get a lot

of mary who just isn't speaking english a lot of the time it's and it is iconic it's iconic but i mean talk about something that's like scary and gives me anxiety and i do want to turn off get the mary off the tv i'm not watching that like i feel probably how you felt watching squid game when i watched mary speak i think oh my god what this is too stressful and to to think to tie it back to the beginning of our episode to think that she actually is a day of culture i mean mcdonald's is a day of culture number one and then number the day of culture number one and then the day of culture number two was when Mary M. Cosby hit the world stage. I mean...

Are you excited to come to Ohio so we can sort of, me, you, and Sudi, have like a wine-filled sort of vacation week? I can't wait. I'm sure it will be just what i need and we will be smoking a lot of marijuana well i think so but the thing is like the the i would

love to go on like a wine excursion literally like they did last week on beverly hills like when they sort of went out and like like, drank wine professionally for hours. Like, I want to do that. I want that. We're doing it. I'll book it. I'll book it. I booked us a nice restaurant the first night, and I'll do another few bookings.

I'm really taking point on this trip the way I don't with any other vacation. Well, I truly appreciate that. I kind of just felt like you seemed like you knew what you wanted and you felt good about it oh yeah and and look we'll figure it out together it'll be a collaboration um i just went ahead and made some decisions that that are malleable and i'm open to change i love that that's how the best the best thing should always be but you know what's actually interesting is this sort of like this autumnal vibe we're starting to go into, which is like us drinking wine in Ohio of it all.

It actually does relate to my I don't think so, honey. So I think we could move into that area. Yes. If you are inclined to do so as well. I am very inclined to do so. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends.

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Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going gonna welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes i'm a dude you're a dude and dudes on dudes is our brand new show we're gonna highlight players peers guys that we played against legends from the past and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them and we'll get into the types of dudes what kind of types of dudes are there grunts we got studs wizards we got freaks or dudes dude we got dogs dog we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dude.

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listen to dudes on dudes on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on thanksgiving day 1999 a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean he had lost his mother trying to reach florida from cuba looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.

Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him.. His father in Cuba. Mr. González wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.

At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so I Don't Think So Honey is a one-minute segment where we sort of rail against something in culture that, you know, needs a railing. And everything that my sister and I are making conversation about currently is sort of making me unable to hold my energy longer. So I would love to do it. What? Are you okay? I'm okay.

I'll be okay. Okay. Is it something that I'm doing? No. Okay. Wow. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey's Time Starts Now. I Don't Think So Honey, the lack of autumnal energy in Los Angeles, California. I have very simple pleasures. I wanted to go to the Gelson's today and buy some pumpkin beer so I could drink pumpkin beer with a cinnamon sugar rim.

You cannot find pumpkin beer in, I think, the city of Los Angeles. It's extremely difficult. I feel like the climate of LA year-round, I don't think so, honey. The fact that you are forcing autumnal pleasures that are simply for taste away from the citizens of this part of the country simply because you feel weather-wise it's not appropriate to, I don't know, carve a damn pumpkin, to, I don't know, have apple pie, to, I don't know, just relentlessly do the pumpkin spice thing. And I understand it's basically...

Five seconds. That's not really what I'm trying to cover here. What I'm trying to cover is, it's not autumn here, and it needs to be. And that's one minute. You know what I hear? I hear that you miss the crisp sensation of wind hitting you, blasting your body.

Yes. You need to put on Red by Taylor Swift swift not taylor's version yet no not taylor's version yet i but i am excited to sort of have that when when uh when the time is right um but the thing is i also wish i could open my doors and windows and feel that crisp autumn air as i listened to said album but it just doesn't exist here. And I'm realizing what bums me out is I spend like the asshole of the year in New York City during like August and September when it's still sweaty as absolute heck and soggy bottom.

And then I come here where it's warm and hot just as New York gets to be at its absolute apex which is october november and even into december in new york there's nothing like it there's nothing like her that city during that time and i'm missing out on it and i just wish i could get a goddamn lick of it out here and you can't. I hear the pain in your voice. I just wanted that pumpkin beer. I just wanted that so bad. I don't know if the readers know that about me.

No, you love pumpkin beer so much, it's insane. And I celebrate that. I have simple pleasures. But if you spine this bitch at some bar in the month of October, November, and yes, even into December.

I'd be drinking them. He'd be asking, do you have pumpkin beer here when the menu says they don't? And sometimes they do. They often do. And that's the thing about New Yorkers. You can always sort of like count on them to come through with that.

So if anyone in Los Angeles can point me to institutions or establishments that sell, maybe even have good varieties of pumpkin beer, that would be wonderful, if you can. Well, you got to leave the Gelson's. It's not, you can't have the only place to go be Gelson's. You got to expand your search. Like, I'm sorry,

but I've seen some of the clientele that goes to this Gelson's. Let's just say it's right off the damn Hollywood Hills. So I've seen some celeb sightings to this Gelson's. Let's just say it's right off the damn Hollywood Hills. So I've seen some celeb sightings in this Gelson's. And this Gelson's is not up to snuff. Okay, let's just say there's a certain absolute film star, you can't get bigger. And I saw her with her kids, that's all I'm going to say about it, down the hall on this Gelson's, and I said, I can't believe that an establishment like this does not provide

them with pumpkin beer. That's a star. That's a star. It is time for Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready to do yours? I think so. Okay. And you sort of hinted at it earlier. Yeah, well now people know, but yeah, here we go. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. It now i don't think so honey adele naming your album 30 probably

like you said in press that you were done with the numbers the numerology the numbering system of the albums after 25 and i think you should go back to that artist at that age keep your promise to her don't name it 30 give us something give us something give us some texture beyond because there's if you think about the albums there isn't much discernment

except for maybe she worked with Max Martin on one and not the other and oh that one's five more numbers or four more numbers or three more number two, whatever, than the other one. I think she needs to start crystallizing her point of view a little bit more, which we all know what it is. And so just like seal it in with an actual word. Adele, I love you so much. I can't wait to see you at the show if you come through.

I loved working with you last year. I just I hope that you end this as a quadrilogy and don't do it for the fifth album. So, that's one minute. Now, I have to ask, you seem so sure that it's going to be called 30. What makes you think that? On the billboards that she's been promoting it with, say 30. Wait,

seriously? There's, there've been billboards, I think in LA and New York, just like in like big, I don't know, cities, big markets, whatever. Like she, like the billboards are just mysteriously, they say 30. They don't like say Adele. They don't confirm the title, I guess, technically, but it seems to be going in that direction. Oh, wow.

I hadn't seen this. Adele new album 30 speculation after several 30 billboards pop up. Oh my gosh. I didn't know this was a thing. So I think this confirms it and it kind of disappoints me. Not in a real way. Like I will, like I'll fucking love this album,

I'm sure. But I'm like, I do think when I, between 21 and 25, I'm like, see, like sepia tone can't be like the only like big difference in this era. You know,

like I need, not that any singer needs to have eras, but I think like Adele, like could absolutely, like it need not that any singer needs to have eras but i think like adele like could absolutely like it would work if she just like applied some sort of like point of like intrigue or something into her like give it like give it some wording i don't know like that's this is such an arbitrary stupid thing for me to argue which is that like word albums are better than number albums i feel this way about 1989 i feel this way about four it's just like to me it feels almost i love numbers i'm a numbers guy analytical brain bitch but numbers numbers as albums boring give us a word

i think words actually have the potential to be so beautiful which is why i think i prefer yes numbers are always numbers are never gonna be so beautiful you know why i think i prefer yes numbers are always numbers are never gonna be so beautiful you know what i mean like even right even the number such thing as a beautiful number there's pretty numbers like seven is like pretty it's like pretty that's why she's so popular is because she is pretty she's pretty yeah i feel like four is another beautiful number four is a beautiful number you know four gets to like guess what four gets to do she gets to like unbutton her collar sometimes yeah like the four can either be closed a triangle or it's an open you know a little little pit before is growing up and can i tell you what other number is absolutely gorgeous and there's just something about it 11 oh yeah 11 like 11 i

would name 11 i know that like this famously in 11 from stranger things and i'm taking her completely out of this i don't want her involved in this but i would name my daughter 11 11 rogers bitch oh that's gorgeous oh my god that's a very famous British actress. Eleven Rogers. Eleven Rogers is such a famous British actress. She's like Daisy Edgar Jones. Like Eleven Rogers. And she's like so tender on screen. Oh, she's so beautiful. And she's so beautiful.

She's like Keira Knightley. Oh my God. Are you kidding me? Eleven Rogers. I just saw a musical yesterday called Six. Wait, can you talk about what you felt about Six? I was so jealous of you the other day. I really loved it.

I enjoyed it so much. It was really cool to be there with like, I think like a couple of the articles have remarked on this. It's like a very young, it's a very young Broadway audience in a different way than like, you know, like a Dear Evan Hansen. It's like a young Broadway audience that is there for for a specific thing yeah um which is like that show and like uh it's just great great performances um toby and lucy the people who wrote it are fantastic um i did work with

them recently and they were so lovely to work with um on a project and um god they nailed it they did a great job and i was so happy for them because they were supposed to open right before COVID. And then, you know, this is just a long delayed, long deferred thing. And it's so great.

And it was just, I think people really enjoyed it. Yeah, I did. And I, and I would say, I would say I enjoyed it as well. That's,

I just meant like overall, like the, the feeling is like, Oh, that's, that's going to be great. Like everyone's going to love that. Yeah.

People that have seen it really, really seem to enjoy it. I'm going to see wicked on like, oh, that's going to be great. Like, everyone's going to love that. Yeah, people that have seen it really, really seem to enjoy it. I'm going to see Wicked on Saturday, December 18th. Oh my God. And I'm going to go sit in the second row. Who are you going with? Well, you know that,

I think that's the night of your guys' like, Christmas show. Yeah. And so I'm going with... Sudie? No, I don't think she'll be in New York. I'm going with Greta, Abe, and Emily. I was like...

Oh, you're coming to New York? Oh, you're seeing... I'll be there. I'll be there for other reasons I have not yet announced. But I'm doing... I'm going to be there for like a little bit over a week. That's right. That's right.

That's right. Wow. And I'm going to see Wicked in the second round. And I'm going to watch... So this is what I hear. Basically, the rumor is about Wicked is that at one point, Elphaba actually flies. Like they pull off a trick where she actually, it looks like while she's singing a number, she actually ascends and it's like for the first time Elphaba is flying in the show.

So that's why I wanted to get such a close seat to the front, because to experience what I hear is a very cool special effect. So, watch this space, as you were saying before. What an iconic story, like, a way to, like, freshen it up. Mm-hmm. If that rumor is true. I mean, no one's ever, no one can confirm or deny whether or not Elphaba actually flies in Wicked. But if they are able to pull that off, I think that that is

very cool and like a big emotional height and probably a very emotional moment. Of course. And a very emotional song. Just kidding. Bon and I know exactly what happens in Wicked. Of course Elphaba flies. We're still the culturistas after all.

After all. of course Elphaba flies we're still the culturistas after all after all I was gonna say wait I'm not done talking about numbers okay go back here's a number I'm so excited I'm open for it 12 enough said it has so much symmetry to it right

you go oh 12 I'm seeing you know 12 pieces Oh, just enough said. It has so much symmetry to it, right? You go, oh, 12. I'm seeing, you know, 12 pieces in a pie. I can either cut it. I can either, you know, take it out in thirds and fourths and halves. Yeah. So many beautiful radial patterns. It's an extremely malleable number, and that's what makes it a part of so many people's

lives is it can fit in it literally can fit in so many ways you also have to respect 13 you have to respect 13 13's been through a lot been through a lot seen it to hell and back okay oh my god 13 actually is such an imposing number that sometimes its beauty gets lost, but there is a dark beauty to 13. And I think that it carries gravitas in that way. You think 13 is carrying gravitas? That's what I said. Why would I say anything different?

That's what I said. You did say that. That's what she said. I think here's... This is the last number i'll say okay and then i'll say one more too and then we'll end the episode of loss culture is this okay okay 48 the power that that has 48 the power that that has. 48, not to rhyme, but carries weight. Not to rhyme, but you did. You did, sister. Can't help myself.

And that rhyme describes it perfectly. Carries the weight, 48. It might sound a little Wayne Brady, but it's true. You know how Wayne Brady, always rhyming. Always rhyming. 48, so great carries weight carries weight don't

be late don't be late and now I would say that my most beautiful number before we do a song

to finish the episode if I had to say the most beautiful number it would be it would be 70 74 see what you did there is you named two other beautiful numbers no you

know what i'm taking it all back 70 70 i don't need the four 70 70 is i see her walking out on an award show not unlike the lost culture east is culture awards accepting an award not unlike the queendom award just out there everyone shoots out of their seats clap clap clap clap clap for this legend 70 i literally think an incredible drag name would be 70 million that's my drag name 70 million that is iconic 70 million or 70 or 70 millions 70 millions i kind of think that's funny so we always end every episode of Las Culturistas a searing pop culture podcast that really takes its time

to look into all the elements of culture that you're thinking about that you're consuming and give our take on it you know our very smart incisive take would you say this is one of our smartest episodes I think this is one of the smartest episodes i think this is one of the smartest episodes we've ever done i think that's why vulture said we were the top podcast of the

year you know what i mean that's why time esquire time out new york that's why everyone is raving about las coderistas the podcast has received critical acclaim i don't understand why people think this podcast is, like, good or, like, highbrow. No one ever said it was highbrow. You know what? Sometimes it's... This is the dumbest podcast in existence. This is by far one of the stupidest podcasts you could listen to in every episode with a song

cause when you're 17 and somebody tells you they love you you're gonna believe them for more of that song listen to to Fearless, Taylor's version. It's responsible to stream it now.

Ethical. Ethical. Ethical streaming. Happy ethical streaming, everyone. Bye. Happy ethical streaming. Bye. I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby.

And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Julian Edelman.

I'm Rob Gronkowski. And we are super excited to tell you about our new show dudes on dudes. We're spilling all the behind scenes, stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week we're discussing our favorite players of all times from legends to

our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age old question. What kind of dudes are these dudes? We're going to find out Jules new episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to dudes on dudes on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On Thanksgiving day, 1999, five year old Cuban boy, Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida. And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one.