Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Ghost Whisper" (w/ Ben Platt)

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

What's it like to be in love? That question is answered in this installment of Las Cultch with Ben Platt! The superstar takes a break from his stunning run at the Palace on Broadway to discuss making his new album Honeymind, give inspired thoughts on the recent pop girlie landscape, and explain what Nashville is like. Also, a Noah Galvin cameo, the Presidential Fitness Test, being a consistent patron of the arts, and insight into the upcoming film WICK'T (sp?) from those on the inside. All this, party motivators, the combination of LSD and Maggie Rogers, barbecue in theory vs. barbeque in practice and how the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City has altered Palm Springs gay bar demographics. Stream Honeymind! We love BEN.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look, man. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness.

Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las culturistas calling i just bodied today's connections on the new york times games app literally in 15 seconds while we were setting up for this i was like wait just now just now record time why no you you don't have it today. Can I say, I love how activated you get about these things. Honey, join the club. I will. I mean, you have to start playing connections.

Sometimes she tries it, Wynna. Well, I know you've really come for her before. Can I just say, I have this obsession. We need to do a cultural examination of Asian women at the New York Times. Because they are powerful. From Michiko Kakutani to Wynne Liu, these women hold the keys. If you think that I forgot when you did an impression of Michiko Kakutani in your SNL...

Did you actually do Michiko Kakutani for your SNL audition? Yes. And they said, this is for everyone. Eric Henward, producer, little Harvard guy, was like, I really liked your Michiko. Shut up.

Damn. And I went in there and did Anthony and didn't book. What do you know? You didn't pander to the Harvard boys. That was my problem. That was my big issue. I can only be me, a gay guy. White gay guy. Down with us all.

But not our guest. But not our guest. Can I say, first of all, just like catching up on music, I was side-eyeing this Camila era, and now I'm bopping my head. I think he knows. Wanna play when I'm like that?

I was side-eyeing the era. I was side-eyeing it. I actually refused to acknowledge it as culture. Now the second thing has come out, and I'm like, maybe I think she knows. Well, you know, she is doing this thing really well, which is, and they've talked about this on Popcast Deluxe.

Okay. Where they talk about pop music. I think we'd all like it. Everyone in the Zoom. Yeah. They're like, the thing with the Dua album, and even though I adore the Dua album, is it's slippery.

There's no like meme-ability to it. It needs some edge. It needs some... It needs a rough surface. It needs serration. Serration. Like a serrated edge. So Camila is very serrated? Yes, because even from...

Even that is like, well, this is going to do numbers. Did you see the clip of Lana Del Rey weekend? Yes, hello, this is Las Culturistas. You know what I mean? Well, did you see the clip of Lana Del Rey weekend? Yes, hello. This is Las Culturistas. You are joining us in process. I only talk about Lana Del Rey. This is the Lana Del Rey Stand podcast.

As of now, you know she is nominated at the Culture Awards for Artist of the Millennium and also Best New Artist. So this is an interesting turn for how you thought award shows could go and how nominations could go. But returning to the point, did you see the second weekend of Coachella?

Camila came out in the spot where Billy came out. That's what I'm referencing. Lana goes, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. And her like, Lana sort of ghost whisper. It's actually Rula Culture number 18. Lana Del Rey, that's a ghost whisperer.

Mm. Fantasmus. Like Jennifer Love Hewitt before her. Like Jennifer Love Hewitt before her. This is a Lana Del Rey stand podcast. This is also a Honeymind stand podcast. Can I tell you? Oh my God.

It sucks to say this because I don't think it sucks to say it. No, what I'm about to say. I don't think it's true, but I listened to this and I was like, finally, music. Because there's been so much music. But finally, I was like, you know, and what I think I mean by that is I was like, this is taking you back to the 70s FM. This is very John Denver vibes. The vocal harmony.

The man has the best voice in the business. If you thought... He laughs. Oh, a gay guy can't make a Judy Sill album. Oh, a gay guy can't make a Paul Simon album. You're dead wrong. Here's what I'd say. Okay?

Stream Honeymind. You can now because it's out actually as hell. And here's the other deal. So today's actually an auspicious day, bro. Because today for the first time in Las Cotterias history, we're doing a double episode release. So if you're listening to this right now,

after this, you can listen to our episode with Charlie XCX, who has an album coming up this weekend. But out right now is Honey Mind. Honey Mind. And this is, it's just, is Honey Mind. Honey Mind. And this is it's just, it's music. What can I say? It's just, if you put

it on, you will feel every emotion. I was crying not but 35 minutes ago to the song Boy Who Hung the Moon. Boy Who Hung the Moon. I said to be in love. What's it like? We can ask him. We'll ask him. That'll be the first question. What's it like? We can ask him. We'll ask him.

That'll be the first question. He's getting married. Oh, my God. Having everyone's dream wedding, I'm sure. I'm sure. He knows it's true. I think he knows. Anyway, listen.

He's performing at the Palisades out of residency right now. You can go. I'm going to go next week. My mom is excited. I'm taking her. Oh, my God. And that would be a gift that you give yourself to go because I mean every single time I've and by every single time I mean I went to go see parade twice because I just could not believe how fucking incredible that show was for me that was that should have been the Tony win all respect all

respect that's where that should have gone for me. But it did win Best Revival and we love that. And I will say, just every single time you can see this person perform, you are giving yourself a gift. So give yourself a gift and go see him at the palace because just so good. So good. We love him so much.

Everyone welcome... Ben Platt! You guys. What's it like to be in love? So nice. It's like being John Denver. It's great. You know Noah. It's the best. He is the best. You said he was going to cameo? Yeah, he's on

his way home right now. And so they'll probably be some barks from Dog George and then some hellos from Noah at some point. So just don't get too jarred by the barks by dog George. Well, speaking of your home, and I brought this up to you the last time we saw each other, Ben, but how does it feel to know that my dear mother Meng Su has technically been inside your house? Wait, tell me. Did I tell you about this? No. There was an open house and my broker, Ronnie Rose, who's an icon took my mom to go. She was like,

let's go look at these like really fun places. I won't say the neighborhood, but she was like, let's go look at these fun places. And then went to this beautiful home. My mom was like, wow, that was a really nice place.

And then not like two months later, did Ronnie reach out? And this might not have been, well, maybe I'll cut this out. But she was like, I think your friend Ben, your friend Ben's now. I was like, that's great. Anyway.

Yeah, we just moved in March. So we're Brooklyn people now. And it's really nice. Noah has been trying to get me out of Manhattan for a long time. How does Brooklyn feel? So good. I mean, it's like a little exhale. You know what I mean?

Like you get off the train and it's like a little less crazy and intense it's a one hop skip and a jump one train right to the middle of the Broadway areas it's nice feels removed but not in the middle of nowhere it's lovely there are children there's a Presbyterian school outside and they play at recess every

day it's wonderful you hear the sounds of laughter young laughter we throw volleyballs back from the backyard. It's great. Do you really? Oh God, that's going to get annoying quick.

It's cute right now. It already is annoying. My favorite thing about you guys is I've run into you guys in Times Square like three times. Wait,

same. They're always jaunting around Times Square. We're all three very consistent patrons of the theater. And so that's why we're always inunting around Times Square. We're all three very consistent patrons of the theater. And so that's why we're always at Times Square. 100%. I forget what show I was going to see,

but I think you guys were going to see another show. And I was like, look at us out here. Always the biggest smiles on our faces, ready to consume. Yeah, that's the happiest time when you can stay hopeful before you've actually seen the show. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Big news on the

Broadway front, though. Audra and Gypsy. Are we excited or what? Oh, my God. Wait, this isn't until next week. It comes out on, yes, next week.

June, June. Yeah. June 5th. So, I'm doing a special guest every night in my at my Ohio Theater gig.

I had Casey Musgraves and Kristen Chenoweth last night. So this weekend I have dear Adrian Warren who's like... Oh, amazing! And before I knew about any of this Audra nonsense, we were going to sing If Mama Was Married from Gypsy. We were going to do the two sisters and I was like,

girl, you should be playing Louise in this revival. Is she? I don't know. I don't know. She should. Absolutely should. Can you imagine that turn, that change in Act 2? That would be incredible. Just saying, if George C. Wolfe is listening, which I'm sure he is.

George, I thought you were going to say that Audra was going to join you for one of the Palace shows. I tried. She has her own concert gig. She can't make it. That's the thing about Audra. She's busy singing on her own. And that's actually Roller Culture number 55. That's the thing about Audra. She's busy singing on her own. And that's actually

Rural Culture number 55. That's the thing about Audra. She's busy singing on her own. I love when the guest joins in on the Rural Culture. It gives it an extra power. Well, it was about Audra. I felt that I got licensed. You know what I mean? Absolutely. There will be good guests besides Audra.

Sorry, keep going. So wait, can you spoil any that'll happen? Like what's happening tonight? Okay, well, this is all just to say if nobody like, you know, gets sick or something happens. If all goes to plan, tonight is Leslie Odom Jr. Wow. Tomorrow is my album release day. So it's Noah Galvin.

Oh, sweet. And we're going to sing Two Most Wanted as Miley and Beyonce. You're fucking kidding. Obviously. Wow. Blew up our spot. There's big plans for a performance

from the Culture Awards. I would have no doubt about that. On Saturday, we have a double whammy planned. It's Rachel Zegler and then also my dear friend

and co-star from Evan Hansen, Laura Dreyfuss is going to sing Only Us with me. Oh, that'll be... Wow, that'll be wonderful. And then Sunday's Adrian Warren.

So only the best. Duh, only the vocal cords. Only the cords. And he's drinking his Essentia like a good singer. Liters and liters a day. You know, it was Ben who told the truth about vocal prep to the world, which is just have room temperature water. Stop with all say that. It's good for mucus. It's actually

real culture number 99. Although hot water with lemon is good for mucus. I will say. I already have two rules. This is amazing. This is really good. You're a fount. Ben, what was Nashville like? So nice. It's like weirdly slowly becoming LA

but besides that, it was so, it was wonderful. I mean, a lot of the writers I've been wanting to work with forever are all there. I found it like a really calming, wonderful place to write. Also, I don't really know anyone else there besides the people that I was writing with. So it felt like very

blinders up, no distractions. Like, let me just immerse creatively in this and just only do this. Yeah. I loved it. I'm playing two shows there in June. Nashville. Now, tell me this. Did you go to the Grand Ole Opry?

I've never been to the Grand Ole Opry. That's okay. I'm playing the Ryman, though. So that's like second best. What's the Ryman? Ryman Auditorium is like super, know storied vibes like Casey just played there and it's sort of if you're not going to play the Opry it's like a really

beautiful little country venue more like traditional proscenium vibes I want to know what is Casey like in person enchanting? enchanting, gorgeous like a stoner is she trying to corrupt you

because I know how good you are when you have to use your voice you don't even touch the stuff no she's the same when she has to sing we have similar types of vocal anxiety I think but just like energetically like never gets above like a five in a really nice way you know what I mean just like really I identify with that I'm never above

a five we love a queen that sounds like the record always You know what I mean? Just like really even keeled. I identify with that. I'm never above a five. I'm very cool. We love a queen that sounds like the record always. Oh, yeah. And boy, does she sound like the record. She do. That's a clean tone. That is some Sara Bareilles shit.

Oh, crystal crystal. Crystal clear. So you are a consumer of the girls. So I want to know, out of this sort sort of like wealth of pop girly output lately like what's risen to the top for you okay

the honorable mentions are Deeper Well of course Cowboy Carter Delicious the thing that I'm returning to the most is Miss Ari Grande I knew you were going to say that I knew you were going to say that. I knew you were going to say that and I am

with you. It is every song is the most like fine-tuned like delicious bubblegum perfect pop melody lyric ever. They're in my mind all the time not in a way where you're like get this song out of

my mind in a way where you're like I'm going to go listen to that song right now yeah and i'm thrilled that the boy's mind is our next single because that was my favorite song from first listen yes and i just think she's like the greatest pop star of generation i mean obviously we have feelings about beyonce and i don't even call beyonce like a pop star it's a different situation but in terms of like a pop star she's number one of our lifetime, I think. Even intro end of the world is like, I'm going back to that all the time. Yeah.

How do I know if I'm in the right relationship? Yeah. Thank you for a thesis statement right up top. And then at the end, when Nona answers the question, she says, you're in the wrong place. Get out. It's also genre-wise, it's so what I started to wrap my brain around

in terms of why I love music. It does remind me of Mariah in the late 90s. Of course. It takes me back to that. Just those rich, rich rich like harmonies the layers just there's so much in the music and it's just i love that it's like 36 minutes long but tells like a complete story it takes you on a journey you really feel all of her emotions to the point where towards the end when she's saying i wish i hated you

wrapping up that relationship in terms of how it appears on the album like just that last chorus that she sings like and her heart is breaking and her voice is breaking i'm like god she fucking earned every second of this with what we've heard so far like just amazing and she's such a proponent for like i mean first of all obviously we know she's one of the great instruments but her vocal ability to not necessarily mean just like foot on the gas like there's so many different things that she does that have so much restraint that take honestly of so much more ability that are so impressive and then also production-wise what you're saying about like the mariah of it all i love when there's like electronic production elements that are like very self

consciously retro electronic, like very clearly a button being pressed in a way that's like self-aware. Do you know what I mean? Like when it's not trying to pretend, trying to pretend to be like a live room or like something warm, it's like, this is deeply fun and self-aware. And like, I just think that it's, it's a home run on that front too. 1,000%. But even on Ordinary Things, it's like that brass is not totally... It belongs there. You're like, oh, I love it. This is the perfect way to meld all of these different ideas.

You get the vocal recording, the voice recording from Nona. It all just... It's complete like i'm all for a let's say 30 track two hour long let's say but i really like how concise that whole album is like i really like i think when she played it for me i was like i think this is your best. And I wasn't sure. Now I'm quite positive that it is her best album. I would tend to agree.

But then you remember, there has been so much incredible work. And I was actually thinking about that as I was listening to your album, Ben. This concept of doing your best work. Because as I was listening to it, I was like, this is his best work. This is the most cohesive best work. It's like, cause as I was listening to it, I was like, this is his best work. This is the most cohesive, like best work. And I wonder as an artist, like when you hear, this is your best work, obviously that's like a compliment, like at face value in and of itself.

But like, I would imagine you're incredibly proud of the other great pieces of work you've put out. And what I would imagine is the thing that's like really great when it comes to you is it's like, you can't really even compare this to like Reverie because it does something completely different. And is that the goal? Is it just like creating different bodies of work where you can say, I did that thing, now I'm doing this thing? Like, is that a clear question? Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, I think at least in terms of like writing my own music, I try to like lead first and foremost from just like where i'm at like as a person and like let that be the guide as opposed to going in and being like i'd really like to do like americana sound now or

like then my last album like i'd really like to have a peter gabriel moment like it's more like because it was the pandemic and i was wanting like i was feeling restless like everybody and wanting an escape like i was loving writing songs that had like all that 80s electronic feeling to them. And then that's sort of how that came to be. And in this case, I've been with Noah now for a moment and I turned 30 and things are feeling a little more like settled and comfortable in terms of like

understanding myself and like who I am. And so that felt a lot more just organic to like a super plaintive, like unadorned, like sound that lives in this more Laurel Canyon, Paul Simon, James Taylor-y kind of world. And so saying like best work, I think for me, it's like, I I'll always like what's happening like now the best because it's the one I like relate to the most. And like the thing that I feel like that I can still identify with, like, I feel like that I can still identify with. Like, I feel like sometimes I listen to other things I've done or watch other, you know,

if I'm forced to other projects that I've done and then like, I can have an appreciation for it, but I like, it's such a hard thing. I'm sure you feel this way too. It's like you watch things or hear things and you're like, I could have done so much more or now I have such a better perspective or I don't know what I was thinking or like, that doesn't feel like me at all. And it doesn't mean you don't love those things still, but I always will feel like the most proud of like the thing that I feel like paints me as I am right now. So, and also anytime anyone wants to say that something is good, that isn't my performance from Evan Hansen when I was 24 years old is like such a relief because when that ended, it was sort of like a, was this my, was this it?

You know what I mean? So I'm just so grateful that there's been more acts at all. I feel like you, for a while now, have transcended the Evan Hansen part of your life and career, which is an incredible, like, it's an incredible benchmark in that sort of timeline. But like, I feel like for a while now, you've really staked all of these nice claims outside of that in a way that like makes it

all coexist on the same plane but like with this album i really love i feel like fear of missing out is the thing that kind of like i'm happy stones it for me like it's like it's plaintive throughout the album but i feel like this is a song that represents like getting settled into something, getting settled into this idea of like, I don't need to be stimulated by all of these things that are happening outside of my world. Like I'm very eager to like decorate and adorn and have some knowledge around like my, my little corner of the world or whatever. Yeah. I think definitely other than like ad nauseum love songs to Noah, like the other main thing that I wanted to really express and like write about is just this understanding of like wallowing your internal compass,

which I feel like is easier said than done. And like, particularly when what, with what we all do and like, it's like very easy to want to like make the right move creatively professionally whatever personally that like it's the move you're supposed to make or the thing that others would like you to do or what you know will have the best external reaction validation etc and like being in this relationship and also just having other experiences like making theater camp with

my friends and with noah like i think she's really just like driven home that like you know we're all gonna tie like we need to just be really trying to prioritize like the things that make us wake up and like feel excited and fulfilled and like want to do this in the first place because like no matter how positive and wonderful an experience is like by virtue of what we all do like there's gonna be so much shittiness that is needed like you have to just get through to get to the good part and like critique and the internet and just there's all this stuff that's like it's not going anywhere so like if the thing itself is not filling you up then like really what's the point? And so I think, yeah, just that sort of ability and like courage to settle into that

thanks to having this partner who makes me feel like I can do that, I think is exactly what I wanted to express. Okay, so I wrote down a line from that song, which is, this is paraphrasing, but scared of disappointing people I'll never see. And then I've got the fear of missing out on me like do you think that the that not that it was the answer to be in a relationship but that it really helped distract from all the other shit because like

sometimes i feel like oh my god i would die for one you know what i mean like for that and honestly sometimes when i feel really overwhelmed with kind of this idea of like what do people think like what should I do like am I doing the right thing I literally I end up triggering myself and like missing being in a relationship like as if that's the answer and then you say these things like well Noah's made everything beautiful and wonderful so maybe it is the answer. So should I just like, should we just settle now? Should we just like toss a line out, put a blindfold on and hope a good one bites? No, no.

It's two things. It obviously is very helpful, but also like your girls in therapy, working these things out alone too. But also like, I would think the only thing worse than trying to come to these conclusions on your own would be doing it with someone that's not the right person for you to be doing it with and who's like

leading you astray or like bullshitting you or blowing smoke or just like yes manning you I feel like that is an even scarier like crap fall so no no only if it's like your person otherwise like you are strong women that can stand on your own two feet yeah we definitely

are strong women but sometimes sometimes a bitch gets brought down it's so true you know what I mean I remember like when I was in a relationship like it was so easy to be like well fuck this I have a boyfriend

you know what I mean like you storm away and go I don't need this because I remember I got into a fight with one of our friends and like I remember saying like you know what I'm gonna call my boyfriend and then like that fell apart in such an insane way and so I was just like well

now I can't that was not a healthy thing to rely on because it was external and I guess that is the reason why your girls have to be in therapy. Because nothing helps like therapy. Nothing. I'm obsessed. Of course. That's why people say such nice things about it.

It's actually true. I'm doing the EMDR. I said I was doing the EMDR and Bowen called it controversial. What is EMDR? You hold the little things. It's like you hold two little pods and they vibrate. And then basically, like, you close your eyes

and sort of stream of conscious, like, speak on whatever topic it is your therapist is talking about. And she sort of guides you through these different emotions. And you kind of just don't stop yourself. And like, you find every single time I've gone to therapy, it's like, it's sort of like trauma stuff,

but it doesn't mean it has to be like super intense. I'm not clear on like what you're holding. So basically you're holding two like little tiny pods and they vibrate rotationally. So it's like... Based on what you're feeling? No, it's just to make your brain work a little faster. You know, I think it's kind of like,

it's kind of like fooling you into like making your your brain work a little faster. You know, I think it's kind of like fooling you into making your brain move a little quickly. It's making your brain play at 1.5 speed. The Real Housewives of New York City are back for another bite of the Big Apple. Look who it is. Joined by elite new friends. Rebecca Minkoff.

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They were explaining to me EMDR. We're talking about therapy. Oh, my therapist told me about this recently. What is that? It's pods that you hold in your hand and they buzz rotationally. They sort of buzz back and forth. It's supposed to make your brain move quicker so that you hold in your hand and they buzz rotationally. They sort of buzz back and forth. It's supposed to like

make your brain move quicker so that you like stream of consciousness arrive at things that you may not. And it's like you talk about traumatic memories while it happens.

It's like the the like hearing test when you were younger but like for emotions. Can I say I miss just doing like going to the nurse and doing like a hearing test

or a seeing test. When everything was just sort of like, raise your hand when you hear a beep. That's how I miss life. When those were the stakes. I love you. I love you. I love you.

Love you, Noah. Okay, bye. Bye. We love you. The most stressful part of the year was the presidential fitness test. Oh my God. The mile. The mile. Did of the year was the presidential fitness test. Oh my god, the mile? The mile?

Did you have to run the mile? We ran the mile by running three cycles around the block of our school. Oh, that's how they measured it? We had a track. See, the presidential, that was something I really placed a lot of value in because I happened to be good at it because I couldn't

like... And you love George W. Bush. Love George W. Bush. I mean, one of the great girls. You know what was hard for me? The sit and reach. That's what I'm talking about. You sit and you're supposed to touch your toes. Legs out to touch your toes. Yeah, that I can do.

I feel that you are flexible. You sort of give flexible energy. I mean, enough to like stretch out for singing. I'm not like a danza. energy. I mean, enough to stretch out for singing. I'm not like a danza. Noah's like a danza. Stretch out for singing? Yeah, you got to get your whole body loosey-goosey. Well, that's the title of the app, unfortunately.

Stretch out for singing? That's the title of the app? You don't like it? It's not up to you. No, it's okay. It's all right. It's fine. It's okay?

He thinks because he said one of the rules in tandem with us, he can sort of like dictate the title. I thought it was going to be Ghost Whisperer, but I like, I like stretch for a purpose. Oh, I do like Ghost Whisperer. Let's make it about Casey.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure, sure. We'll make it about Casey. We can do that. Wait,

I have a kind of a scary question and you don't have to answer it. Okay. But when we were, when we were talking about regarding your past selves through your work, I imagine that is going to come up when you finish

Merrily. You know what I mean? You're going to watch yourself back and be like, oh my god, who is that guy? If we're all alive and the world is intact and film still exists and people go watch film, which all of which we don't know,

this is 16 years in the future. So like, but we don't know. I think, I mean, I think it's just going to be such an emotional like scrapbook that I won't care. Like I think,

right. Cause it's like Beanie's in it with me and she's like my lifelong friend. And it's like Sondheim, which is the angel of the world.'s like my lifelong friend and it's like Sondheim which is the angel of the world and like I just think I feel so unbelievably happy that it exists and I would be so overjoyed if we literally made it to the finish line that I think I would be thrilled to watch it I mean especially with my god willing like maybe children at that point like yeah giving them a little kind of retrospective

of where we're at. And also right now, we're gays. I look in the mirror and I'm like, my tummy this and my cheeks that and my whatever.

But I'm so excited for in 16 years to look at the early scenes and be like, God, look how fucking young and gorgeous I am. Oh my God. That's the thing too

is it's like when you look back and you're like, why was I insecure? It's like you wish you could tell yourself even from three years from now it's just like no it's good now the thing that i'm fixated now lately is my fucking neck and like when i like it's it's ridiculous it is ridiculous what's wrong with your long statuesque neck you guys nothing but i feel like you know what happened what happened to me was I was in a video with bad lighting that did very well and because it was like a funny video like I bad lighting but

did very well no no okay so I guess hosted love it or leave it last week and it was the live show and a clip from the live show I told a story about how on 9-11 I made my mom take me to go get the Mariah Carey album glitter like I threw a tantrum and it was 9-11. So like, and it was a funny story, I swear. But I was like, I was in this really bad lighting and like, it didn't look great. And then it had me second guessing my hair. It was like, and I was just like, you know what?

This is not a video for me to watch. Like it's, I'm never going to get permanence on this. Like, it's like when you're talking about watching your old work or watching new work and what it does. My thing is I always appreciate it much later because in the moment I'm always so critical

of the way I look or what I've done. We talk about this. When I first saw Fire Island, I had a breakdown. Oh, me too. And we've all experienced that. Bowen talks about it as well.

It's hard to engage with yourself when you're already in a community that's so hard on itself. It's unnatural. I mean, it's like the internet alone of looking at images of yourself all day is ruining everyone's mental health and self-esteem. And then on top of that that for your livelihood to depend on something where once again you're confronted with your image all the time it's like it's no wonder we're all so fucked up we're all so fucked up you're being therapy

doing EMDR squeezing things that buzz I will say of the EMDR stuff like I pointed it out as controversial because of based on what I had read just textually and then anecdotally people were

telling me like I forget like people at work were like oh no it's actually like it's actually been very helpful and I that's all I care about well I did tell my therapist that you said it was controversial no why did he say that and I was like I don't know I think he thought it was genuinely controversial she goes okay well it is like just so you know it's not and she said, no, why did he say that? And I was like, I don't know. I think he thought it was genuinely controversial. She goes, okay, well

it is like, just so you know, it's not controversial. It's like a research thing, etc. And I was like, I feel good about what we're doing. And then she gave me the pods and they began to buzz. Just to say, we've touched on it now, I would say four times. Still have no idea what this is. Look it up, bitch. Matt is doing like,

putting his dukes up and he's saying those are a pod. I'm imagining stress ball squeezers but they vibrate. I have yet to correctly describe what it is and I'm realizing when I try, it's because I don't think I really know. I think it's kind of

just like everything in my life where someone just said do you want to try this? And I'm like, yeah. Great. I want to try it all. Hmm. Yeah. YOLO. Are you a trier?

Am I a trier? No, I'm afraid of everything, but Noah is a really amazing trier. So it evens out. Good for you guys to be married then. Yeah. Take each other,

probably balance each other out a bit. That's right. I know the invite list has to be big. You guys have big families. We're getting right in there. We don't have to be on the list, but we can be present in a way. We can share one seat.

If I were to hire you as vendors, what is the service that you would offer? I think we would write poetry? You know what we could do at the Pat Galvin wedding we could be like party motivators like at bar and bat mitzvahs and stuff like just go up to the tables and be like

come on Mama June what are you waiting for? in this world there's someone there named Mama June motivators at our wedding oh my god so basically Ben is looking at Noah off camera and I'm imagining that like, it's like they heard us be like, so what can we do?

What can we be invited? And Noah's off camera like, no, no, no, no, we are capped. No,

no, Ben, do not. No, he's on camera being like, ask them if they'll be dancers, but party motivators is good. We'll dance.

We'll do it all. We'll stretch to sing. We'll stretch to dance. Party Motivators. I was at a party once. I think it was a Sweet 16 or something where there was a Party Motivator. And it was mortifying to be like a 13-year-old gay preteen, gangly, going going through it,

like in terms of the growth spurt and have this like confident 20 something gorgeous sort of run over to you, like shaking her like shoulders like this and being like, come on, Matthew, get up. This is a party after all. Come on,

boo. And like making me move my horrible limbs. But wait, she sounds like you. This is every Bar Mitzvah. No, honestly, she was scary because I knew

she was me. I knew she was a confident me. Yeah, you saw yourself reflected. It was just, I couldn't imagine being confident enough

to dance over to strangers and be like, let's go! But now I can. That's the way that I would peacock at Bar Mitzvahs because I was the only usually self-suffer that's gay kid. Or maybe there was

one other one, but it would be me and the girls going absolutely off and the guys just sitting at the table in their sneakers and suits. And also if there's a boy dancer, if you're going to actually do this, you have to wear a too tight for you black t-shirt. That's no problem. Oh, no problem.

I have a drawer full. Lost Coach, we've become the poser children for sex. We're taking a turn towards fitness. Bowen is showing his butt in a movie. Yeah. Yeah. That's so exciting. A hiney shot.

A hiney shot. That's what I call it. Because Rosie O'Donnell used to whenever she'd have a male guest on her show back in the day, right before the interview would end, she would go, any hiney shots? I remember years ago

watching Rosie O'Donnell. I would get sick at school. I would fake it a lot. So I could come home and watch Rosie O'Donnell sometimes. That's so gay. That's so gay. She's so gay. She had Mark Wahlberg, not Marky Mark, on her show one time.

He was Marky Mark and he was so hot. She was still doing her thing of like, I'm flirting with these guys on my show. She was like, any hiney shots? He goes, little hiney shot. Little hiney shot. Then you came instantaneously.

Yeah. So hot to think about. Not anymore, sadly, but he was. Yeah, I mean, other things get in the way with him now. Stuff has gone down. It's too much to unsee, but we had our time. Yeah. Did you guys see

Dennis Quaid's big announcement? He's come out and said that he's going to vote for Trump. What? And the quote was this. A lot of people say he's an asshole, but he's my asshole. Come on. He's my asshole. Was what the man said.

No. Your asshole is on your person. He's not your asshole. You've had one all along. It's the ruby slippers. It's been with you. Just one of the most colossal flops. I will just take the image of him with the open chest hair

with Meredith Blake and the parent trap and leave the rest. Just let that be yours. You know what I mean? It's like Harry Potter. If Dennis Quaid as a child meant something to you when he opened up his shirt a little bit and showed that chest hair engaged to Meredith Blake, don't let it ruin it for you.

You know what I mean? Don't let what's happened ruin it for you. It's like that and Hermione and then they can both go away. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Harry Potter. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Harry Potter. No, no.

What are our thoughts? Just kidding. Just kidding. Well, Daniel's in Merrily. I know. Wait, did you see the Merrily? Did you go for research? Of course you did.

By the way, for people that don't know, like Ben and Beanie are shooting with Richard Linklater of Boyhood fame. Like every year, they're doing Merrily the right way way which is every year they're shooting like a chapter of this story and it's going to come out in like 16 years or whatever the fuck it is like when it's all done so

he's doing what he did with Boyhood with Merrily and that's what we're talking about when we're talking about like the watching and many years and looking back so did you go to see Merrily on Broadway? Paul Meskel, of course. Oh, Paul Meskel? Yeah, he's Frank.

Wow, you really nailed the casting. I mean, come on. Yeah, I saw it off-Broadway and on-Broadway. I thought it was wonderful. I loved it. The three of them are so impeccably cast together. They just really jive and gel and they bring different energies

and you really believe their sweet love and then it makes it sad when it goes away. And I thought it was as, again, like you were saying, it's like, I think if we can make it, the ultimate way to do it is actually really to watch that de-aging process happen.

But as far as like making it work on stage and playing up and then playing down, it's like, it's the best version I could imagine, really. Right. Oh, that's going to be so emotional. Right. That's going to be a lot of Right. Oh, that's going to be so emotional. Right. That's going to be a lot of tears.

Yeah, let's... Watching yourself de-age, like... No, don't. But I'll be watching it from like, with Google glasses on my own deck. You know what I mean? In private. In the future.

On Mars. In my like, scuba suit to be outside in the environment. It'll be great. How do we save cinema? That's a good question. I think probably we try Batgirl again. Yeah.

I think more sequels, I think. I have to say, with Furiosa quote-unquote flopping, Bowen and I fucking loved Mad Max Fury Road, but I think the reason why I didn't go see Furiosa and didn't have

top-of-mind plans to see Furiosa is because I do feel like when I see the preview for that movie, I do feel like I've seen that movie already. You know what I mean? People are all throwing out their theories about why the box office is flopping and everyone has like their ideas

about why it's not been a great year why it hasn't been a great couple years but like I think my thing is it just feels like every movie that comes out even if they are really quality which this is apparently I just feel like I have seen it

and I think that's like a thing with the sequels of it all. It's just like the sequel and prequel fatigue is just like very real because we're not getting anything new. Yeah. I mean, I feel like so out of touch, but like the things I consider to be eventized are like so

not the things that I guess like the general public would consider to be eventized. I was like, oh my God, like Yorgos and poor things and Emma. I'm getting out of my apartment and going to see that with a crowd. But like Marvel number 27, I'm like, that doesn't really thrill me anymore. Who cares?

But I think that we're all on the same page about. That we are in tune with the general public where they're like, we don't really care about the next Marvel 27. But what I find interesting is that with Wicked, it is like, oh, we have made

a musical look like a Marvel film, which has never really happened before. I think it's thrilling. I just realized that... You've seen it. Have you seen it? I don't know. He might have. No, no, no, no, no.

He's lying. W-O-H, word of honor. Would love to. Have not. I've seen some BTS packages maybe that haven't come out yet, but I haven't seen the film. But every little lick of footage I've seen has looked stunning and glorious, and I can't wait. And it's finally

a musical that's big enough and fully realized enough the way that it absolutely should be. And we all need to show up for this musical. Oh, we will. I'm not worried about Wicked at all. I'm not worried about Wicked. Wicked. It's about candles.

Teal Wicked. You know what's cool about Wicked too? Like, Wicked, not that people weren't aware of the fact that it was a musical, but more than any other movie musical, like, in the trailer, you get that it's a musical. Oh, yeah. But people still have gripes

about, we didn't see anyone singing, like, we didn't see the note come out of Cynthia's mouth, you know what I mean? Like, which I think is... No matter what comes out, the internet's going to be like, there was too much... The color saturation was crazy.

It's like, okay. You go make this movie for four fucking years. For 20! For God's sake. Everyone always knows better. And no one does, except us now. Yeah, that's right. Except the one does except us now. Yeah, that's right.

Except the three of us right now. We know better, but everyone else doesn't. And they should shut up. That's a rule of culture. That is a rule of culture. I forget how long it was. Ben, you're allowed to say a rule of culture.

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let me read them. Yeah and then we'll have you choose. These are the nominees for best song from Wicked the nominees may surprise you okay if something bad's not on there I don't want to hear this but keep going you might be a muck. Okay, hold on. Watch this space. Best song from Wicked.

The nominees are Thank Goodness, I'm Not That Girl, I'm Not That Girl Reprise, What Is This Feeling? Also, low-key, some of you are still calling this song loathing, and we clock it every single time. Every single time. Although, Stephen Schwartz and Stephen Riemann

do call it loathing. Okay, well,artz and Stephen Riemann do call it living. Okay, well then they need to answer to that. Okay, fair. One Short Day, March of the Witch Hunters, Something Bad, and Dear Old Chiz. No Defying Gravity,

No Good Deeds Snubbed, Wizard and I snubbed. Yeah, but these are all the real ones. It's honestly, there's a lot of comets in this category. A lot of comets. Yeah, flying high. I have two knee jerks. You have two knees.

So this is believable what you said. Because they both could have jerked the left and the right knee. My vote would be garnered by either I'm not that girl or pre's. Thank you so much! Or March of the Witch Hunters. Because especially in the musical, the reveal of her behind the

Witch Hunters, every time shivers, goosebumps. Shivers, goosebumps. But also Bach is like going off. with the witch yeah of course you know what I realized we forgot because low key it's not on the Spotify thing because it's not on the fucking album

which is I'll never get over is the wicked witch of the east yeah of course Zoom rejected your pitch by the way they did? Well, not on my recording. Zoom silenced your ass.

Sorry. Listen, I don't care what anyone says. I made noise. I'm hoping we get that. I mean, again, something I legitimately do not know the answer to, but I hope that we get that on this new film album. You see, Bowen is famous for being like, I think I can say this and then dropping something crazy about the movie.

Oh, well, like the internet got my ass for saying that Dillaman would be played by a woman, which I never said. I never said that Dillaman would be played by a woman. Like, it's crazy. These girls will just make shit up. Yeah, but girl, you speak too much.

You play too much. You did this with Ariana Grande's album too. He was on fucking Twitch and he goes, yes, I've heard the new Ariana Grande album. Yes, it's definitely going to be this. And she definitely worked with this person. And then the media picked that up too. And she was like, oh my God, I love it.

You talked about it. You meant that like spiritually Dillamond is a woman. You know what I mean? Exactly. Yeah. And she is. Because Dillamond is a person. It was a puppeteer named Louisa. It was a puppeteer named Louisa. And I wanted to give her flowers because she was amazing. And then the internet

took that to mean that Dillamond would be played by a woman. And then they were like, it's going to be Adina. And I'm like, that is the stupidest thing. And Dina is Dillamond. Imagine by a woman and then they were like it's gonna be Adina and I'm like that is the stupidest thing that and Dina as Dillaman like imagine that call like hey Adina it's us like we know you've been interested in the cameo you're gonna be

Dillaman boo like she'd be like oh my god how dare you guys I am really pulling for I'm not that girl reprise just because I'm not that girl andrise just because I'm not that girl and it goes into fucking it's Glinda's only

real alto note in the whole show yeah she gets to really like hit that note but um don't wish don't start wishing only wounds the heart like you kidding me it's a good show this wicked this wicked is a good show

okay I don't think I can say this no no no no this is what I'll say I don't think so everyone being like oh why is it in two parts if Defying Gravity is going to be in the first part then like what's there to like wait for in the second like there is so much a ton

reprise reprise first of all, for good and the end of that movie, of that show, that is the end of the story. Don't worry that it's not going to feel exciting. It's just what you're

getting now is a really intense climax and finale for the first movie. That would feel really weird if it was one movie and that was just the middle of the movie like you need to break them up they're actually narratively and like in terms of a viewing experience the show is supposed

to end after Defying Gravity that's why there's an intermission like and so basically what you're getting is is an intermission you are getting the show but it's two movies I understand of course why there'd be people out there being like oh it's a money thing it's a money thing. It's a money thing. But I think it would be weird

to have Defying Gravity in the middle of that movie. I really do. Famously, tourists early on used to leave on intermission because they thought that was it. Right. Famously. They were like, well, it can't go up from here. So that must be the end.

She gets away. She gets away. But this is, here's what I'm saying. The people who are involved in this film, me excluded, care deeply about this. And, except for me, no, I'm just kidding. But like, it will be okay.

It will be okay. Of course. Listen, I have no doubts because I know my girl is in it. And when he touched that hat and said what's this I said this is representation and it matters mean gay guy

do you think the representation matters you've never said that before publicly is this to me yes no I think we have enough I think that's good of course it does

I've staked my whole life on just being like I'm gay isn't that important look how gay I am listen to my love songs listen to my Jew gay love songs Jew Jew Jew gay so you did was it acid or mushrooms that made you say the title

honey mind chocolate mushrooms of course. I'm going to try acid. Is acid better? I think you would like it if you were out in nature and if you were with your beloved and your close friends. It's not like chesty anxiety-y? I don't think so.

I think that it would depend on how much you took. Here's what I would say. Go rent a house upstate. Bring a nice vinyl. Let's throw out there the new Maggie Rogers. Spin it. And very underrated. It's a bit crowded here. Spin it.

Take your half a tab. Walk around. Look at the moon. See what it tells you. Oh, so nighttime. I feel start of the day going to night. Does it last that long? Oh, yeah. That's what we did. So nighttime. I feel start of the day going to night. Does it last that long? Oh, yeah.

Oh, okay. That's what we did. Bowen and I did that years ago. We had an emotional breakthrough. And then you woke up and your hair was blonde. Yeah, I guess. Spiritually. I literally went outside, stared at the moon, and listened to an underrated Maggie Rotter song, deep cut, called

Better. And I listened to that on Acid and I was like, I will never forget this. I think you'll like it, Ben. And on the other side of the house, I was up looking at the moon listening to Light On, which is, of course, her biggest single. This is speaking to me.

I loved that first album. It was my personal John Hughes coming of age film This is speaking to me. I love that first album. Just really amazing. It was my personal John Hughes coming of age film. That whole album. I listened to it for my whole entry into adulthood. If Girls, the show, was one album, it would be Maggie Rogers' first album.

That is really astute. Wow. Period. Both things that I love. You know, period. Both things that I love. You know what I heard the other day and it reminded me, like, I think it was in the trailer for Girls Season 2. Ellie Goulding, Anything Can Happen. That...

Anything can happen. I was like, this girl really gives it to you sometimes. Oh, yeah. Of course. Well, also, there's just the music on Girls was consistently phenomenal. Yeah. It was giving Grey's Anatomy tastemaker vibes.

Yes, it was giving tastemaker vibes. It was giving Robin writing the tweet. We don't have to go there, but you know. I don't think that there will ever be a better end to an episode of television ever than her writing that tweet, drafting that tweet sending it and Alison Williams coming in

the reveal to her that Elijah was gay the whole time and they danced to Dancing on Their Own and they hug and the smash on the beat at the end of the chorus, like I mean come on and just her reaction to the news and just immediately embrace gayness and be like that's funny like yeah, of course he's gay

of course he was gay. It's like, that's friendship. It's just like letting it roll off your back. I could talk about we should do a whole Girls Rewatch podcast.

I think that already exists. Probably. I think people want it from us though. Yep. You know, we're doing an Olympics podcast. Is that real?

Oh yeah. Thoughts? But what does that mean? Are you going to go like event by event? That's one way to go about it. I'm down to really go through each event and be like, okay, so what should we know about this?

And who are the players? And who are the stars? And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So for someone like me who's not well-versed, I could listen and you could help me be intro-course? This is a perfect podcast for you because we don't know anything about anything. It's really going to be for the

every day, this podcast, because it's truly hosted by two people who just this isn't their culture. I have to say, maybe years ago, the Summer Olympics was my culture. When was the last time the Olympics was something you gave energy to? 2012, maybe?

London? I watched the clips afterwards that everybody tells me I need to watch I've never been like a full tune into the Olympics girl but I guess maybe this would be my opportunity if I'm following along with your podcast I think so and I think we

can really talk about the bodies yeah of course I just will never forget. This is a Winter Olympics thing, but one of my sexual coming of ages was Apollo Anton Ono. Ooh.

Apollo Anton Ono, the speed skater, and later Dancing with the Stars, I think winner. Yeah, I think so too. The man had an ass. I bet he still has it. Oh my God.

I didn't stand a chance. I guess I was he still has it. Oh my God. I didn't stand a chance as like, I guess I was like 12 or something. Like there was no way around his ass. Like I was just like I am so seated for this because he is the hottest man I've ever seen. Wow. Just pour one out for Apollo.

But do we need to? Like what happened? No, nothing. I'm sorry. Is that when the bad thing happened? Pour one out like to me, means, like, commemoration. Like, oh, God. No, I don't mean that. I mean, just, like, I don't know. Celebrate.

Yeah, celebrate. I think it's because the last time I heard the expression, Pour One Out, my dad, I called my dad because Jimmy Buffett died. And he said, I'm at the beach pouring one out for Jimmy. And I was like, oh, my God. So heartbreaking. Dad. A little bit of Buffett, this is so heartbreaking. Dad.

A little bit of Buffett on this album from you. Yeah. Are you serious? Really? I mean, you know, it's giving singer-songwriter, acoustic guitar driven some stuff. I mean, absolutely not. Yeah, there's this song called Margarita on the Rock. It's... Thank you. I'll take that.

I will say All-American Queen is giving notes of Paul Simon and Jimmy and Buffett fair to say yeah just add like a little bit of faggot and then yeah yeah totally if you listen to Jimmy Buffett and add a little bit of faggot you get you actually really don't

I used to I remember when I was little like my parents were huge parrot heads and like I just started watching American Idol. So I of course thought I knew everything about singing. So I would always drag Jimmy Buffett for his lack of range. And listen, you weren't wrong.

Rest in peace. But he didn't need the range. No, he was an icon in several other ways. Rangeless. Rangeless King. Rangeless King. rangel's king rangel's king the real housewives of new york city are back for another bite of the big apple look who it is joined by elite new friends rebecca mackoff have you ever heard of her but things could change

in a new york minute she had this wild night and ended up getting pregnant by some other guy. What? You told her? Not today, Satan. Not today. The Real Housewives of New York City, all new Tuesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh.

And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez.

At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,

as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. or wherever you get your podcasts. In our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. See, athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game. We want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts. You know, just all the s*** we go through. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as women. And T and I, well, we have no problem going there.

Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations.

I was a desperate, delusional dreamer, and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim victim mentality i took zero accountability for anything in my life i was the kid that if you asked what what happened i immediately started with everything but me it took years for me to break that like years of work listen to on purpose with jay shetty on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts me, you won't want to miss this one. All right, so we've hit the moment in the show where it's time to turn to I Don't Think So Honey.

This is the segment we all know and love. Let me guess, you forgot. I didn't forget. I just didn't come prepared. But you guys go and then I'll think of something. So what's the difference there? I don't know. Don't put on your shy voice.

Don't start talking in your little soft tenor. He's in between shows at the palace. You're right. So, for those of you who also may have forgotten, I Don't Think So Honey is a 60 second segment where we talk about something in culture and we sort of

you know, we air grievances. I have something that it's going to be very frustrating for a while but it's just now come to my attention that this is going to be the case and so I'm going to do my I Don't Think So Honey. Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. Time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey.

I'm already stressed out about the best actress Tony Reiss next year. I mean, Audra McDonald versus Nicole Scherzinger. This is going to be, I mean, if you thought things have been difficult in the past, things are about to get really hard. Things are about to get really tough in this country, because let me tell you something.

Not only are we going to have whatever happens with the election later in the year, sorry to bring it up, but then almost a few months later, we're going to have a Tony awards that is going to tear this country apart because we're going to have half the country that is gonna tear this country apart because we're gonna have half the country that are saying audrey mcdonald is playing mama rose i mean that is what like a six-time tony winner playing the greatest musical role of all time how do you get better

than that i have to tell you i don't think so honey if you haven't seen the coaster tear it up in sunset boulevard and she's gonna tread the boards in new york and i know she's gonna if you haven't seen Nicole Scherzinger tear it up in Sunset Boulevard. And she's going to tread the boards in New York. And I know she's going to be galvanized because if I can trust Nicole Scherzinger to be one thing, it is galvanized and it is going to be behind her eyes. We're in for it.

I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. She is spilling blood, letting it drip off her chest onto the boards of Broadway. Li-ta-ra-ly. I didn't think about that until now, and now I'm so stressed. You haven't thought about it? It's all I've been

able to think about. It's the fact that one of those women is going home empty-handed, and I have to say... Tie. It's a tie. I guess, face value, let's give Nicole one. This would be Audra's seventh again I have not seen the performance it could be no contest like that's just how talented

she is Audra should just hop on as a producer because we know it'll win revival and then she gets one anyway I wonder if she is a producer already that's a good question yeah just as insurance because she needs one too but you know that's not the same six is not enough hashtag let's start a campaign hashtag six is not enough but Six is not enough. Hashtag let's start a campaign.

Hashtag six is not enough. But I don't want to do that campaign because I want it for Nicole bad. I can't wait to see her. No, I heard it's amazing. You didn't see it? You didn't go over to the West End? Did you?

Yeah. Is she insane? That's hot. It is. I don't know how you give a better, more thrilling. Well, I've seen you, so I do know how.

But like, it's no, don't tell me to shut up. Don't fucking tell me to shut up. I have a line. I have a boundary. No, I don't know. It's so good. I can't wait. I can't wait.

Bowen? No, I'm thinking about next year's Tony's. And it is just like, it's going to be thrilling because Cole is in the mix. Oh, forget it. It's going to be nuts. We're going to have to get you back out there to present, Bow, and say this is six. Bowen iconically introduced the Tony performance of Selmet.

Oh, I remember. Oh, my God. My best reception ever, not at the Tony performance of Selma. Oh, I remember. Oh my God. My best reception ever, not at the Tony Awards themselves, but at the rehearsal earlier that day where like all of like the people, like all of like the crew working the Tonys were like in the mezzanine at Radio City.

And I like, whatever, like, okay, and now Bowen walks out and I walked out and then like people cheering for the mezzanine being like, this is the most applause I've ever, this is the most spirited applause I've ever gotten anywhere. And it was at 2 p.m. on a Saturday. It was great.

I don't think you realize how exciting it is to see you. It's thrilling. It's always so exciting to see you. That's very nice. First time I met Cynthia at the 20 Awards rehearsal. Really? And that was a very nice vibe. Was she lovely? She was lovely.

I'm such a fan. I really am. I watch this night live. I do. You know what was the most Cynthia Erivo thing that happened to me? What? I was reading like middle March.

The most Cynthia Erivo thing that happened to me. I was reading. You sang incredibly well in all of your age. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I sang so, so well. I sang. No, no. I was reading saying incredibly well and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I sang so, so well. I say,

no, no, I was reading Middlemarch on set and then she comes up and she goes, what is that? I was like,

oh, it's a book by George Elliot, but it's actually a woman and she, you know, George Elliot was her like pen name and whatever.

She goes, I'm going to buy that. I'm going to read that. And then next day, she's like, I love it. I love it. She started reading it that day. I was like, I love it. I love it so much. She read it.

She didn't start reading it that day? I was like book influencing her. It was probably at 5 a.m. on the treadmill. She cracked open that book. Her and Michelle Yeoh, every morning, 5 a.m.,

getting up, doing a crazy workout every day before work. She is bananas. Wow. I mean, it shows. She looks unbelievable.

I'm so excited for what this is gonna she's already a full superstar but like she's Elphaba she's gonna be Elphaba in Wicked oh my god seeing West End Wicked is a fucking

I loved it it's fun they say room allocations instead of room assignments right that's the biggest difference room allocations instead of room assignments. Right. They do? That's the biggest difference. That's the biggest difference. Room allocations. I like that she's American in the movie because it's like the only way she's supposed to be different from everyone

is for greenness and so she should be the same everywhere every other way. But maybe Johnny is British? Johnny's British. That works though. Yeah, he's a prince. He's a winky prince. Tw's a prince. And then he's a winky prince. And then... Twinkie prince.

Twinkie prince. And then I think that's the only Brit. I'm missing one. Oh no, I think Peter Dinklage. I think Dillamond is British. Is male and British. He's a British man. He looks like a British man. What movie? AMAB. AMAB.

AMAB King, Peter Dinklage. Actually, it's Rural Culture number 99. AMAB King, Peter Dinklage. She looks like a British man as Mean Girls, of course. Yeah, of course. Bowen, you really do know your culture. Oh, I just got a text from maybe colon Ilhan Omar. Oh, great.

The political texts are popping off. Of course they are. Okay, so this is Bowen's I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready, galvanized and free? Yes. Bowen Yang's time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey barbecues. It ain't all it's cracked up to be.

You want smoke in the lung. You want a half- half cooked piece of chicken. You're getting food poisoning at the function. And the conversation's not going to be that great. The music's not going to be loud enough because we're too afraid to, you know, get a complaint. None of it is what you want it to be. I'm sorry.

I love, we all love barbecue in theory, don't we? 30 seconds. But then when you have to like get out the coal or you have to like figure out how you're going to like light the thing, it's too much. I'm sorry to burst your bubble, everybody. Summer's just beginning.

It's grilling season, but it's not going to live up to the fantasy unless you're really good at the tongs, unless you're really good at opening up the, unless you're really good at opening up. But yeah, first of all, five seconds. Good luck if you have to clean out the fucking vents from the year before, because that is going to put you off from the whole fucking thing. I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute.

I will say I will shout out Jared again. We just had a small, tiny moment at his house where he barbecued for a few friends. You just have to get someone who isn't like, yeah, I can do it. You have to get someone that's going to take the grilling seriously. Yeah. I was going to say, Noah, you haven't been to a barbecue that Noah has been in charge of. It's a different kind of experience. Well, maybe if he does it at the wedding, you can throw us some meat on the side because we'll be working the event. Well, you'll be so tired from your motivational dancing that you'll need some protein.

He's a great chef, so it'll taste really good, but he just takes the timing seriously, doesn't put it on others. We position the grill in a proper place. It can be done in a meaningful way, but I do agree that a slapdash barbecue is not always a fun experience. Maybe I'm too used to a

slapdash barbecue. It's like one of those things too where like you never want to really volunteer unless it's so you're so confident you can do it because I've actually, at our Fire Island house, Bell, remember this? I was like, oh grill. And then one of our guests

came over and was like, I'm so sorry. I need you to get out of the way. I'm going to take over. But this person came over and was like, you know what? They were right to kick me off. Like I didn't know what I was doing and everyone would have been having a worse experience. But if you have someone that's truly a grill master, which is...

These are few and far between. I would agree. All right. But Noah Galvin. Yeah, well, he's not certified, but he's a master of the grill. It should be a certification that you need to have in order to man a grill. Do you cook?

When we first started dating, the gas in my apartment was turned off and Carrie Bradshaw style, I was storing clothes in my oven. But at this point, I can like stew. I can clean as he goes and chop for him and stuff. You can stew?

Okay, I thought you said you could stew. And I was like, well, Bowen Yang is going to... Yeah, I exclusively make stew. You can stew. Okay. I thought you said you could stew. And I was like, well, Bowen Yang is gonna... Yeah, I exclusively make stew. That's like Bowen. Really? Do you love stew, Bowen? I love stew.

Year-round. Really? Yeah. Just because you can just, you like throw her all in there and she just simmers and there she is? Or what about it do you love?

Exactly. No, it's that. It's like, it's perfect stoner food. It's like, oh, it just really hits every spot. Love it. As Taylor Tomlinson recently said, a stew is just soup with something to say.

That's perfect. I thought that was really apt. I thought it was beautiful. Well, Beau, looking ahead, I hope that you have people around you that can barbecue this summer and aren't playing in your face.

I just think like, look, I love a public space. I love a public park with grills. The smoke do billow. The smoke do go into other spaces and it's like, oh, we're just trying to play

cards here on our blanket. But we're getting the draft, we're getting the downdraft from the grill that's like 200 feet away. Spatial awareness is going to be huge this summer when it comes to creating smoke, fire, and more. Period. So now

it's time for Ben Platt's I Don't Think So Honey. Are you ready, galvanized, and free? Noah galvanized? In between two. Noah galvanized. Yeah, Noah galvanized. His drag name's Noah Vale, but I do also like Noah Galvanized.

Noah Vale! Wait, can I try this? Because Bowen is not sold on my drag name, but I'll try it out on you. I like it. Do it. Splasha Cram. I like Splasha Cram.

I was never against Splasha Cram. You do that thing you always do to me, which is, yeah, the iconic first name, Splasha. No, that's not. Also, one that I heard recently that's not for me, but that I think is good is Sharon Elise. Like Sharon Elise. Sharon Elise.

Sharon Elise. Or Alexa Pro. Alexa Pro. Alexa Pro. Okay, you ready? Yeah. What you're between two? Like, do you need help to decide? One is like so niche and one is

bratty. Niche and bratty. I think you can make the niche one bratty. Let's do niche. Okay, this is Ben Plus. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey, on DoorDash when they tell you it's going to come at a certain time and then they're

showing you the path of the car coming towards you and they fill time by creating a gridded path on every street heading to your house. When you know for a fact that is not the path that the car is taking, just trying to pretend that he's on his way or his bike or his feet or whatever it is. He has not even left the business. He's,

he's dropping off somebody else's food. He's fucking somebody else's girlfriend. He's not headed towards you. And it's telling you, don't worry. He's just turning right. And he's also decided to take this left as well. And I also have 30 more seconds. I'm going to throw in the other one. I don't think so, honey. Straight people asking me, what am I going to do for pride? Because I don't know what am I going to do for pride? I'm just going to be gay and hang around other gay people like I do the rest of the year. It's none of your business what I'm going to do for pride. What are you going to do for pride, sir? Are you going to advocate for us?

Are you going to go to a parade? Are you going to take your shirt off? What are you going to do for pride? Are you going to come see me at the palace? You should do that for pride. I'm just going to be continuing to live, can cohabitate with my same-sex partner. Thank you so much. 59 and a minute. And I don't think so, honey. That is one minute.

Good for you. I was just in Palm Springs for Memorial Day day weekend those bars were filled with i'm sorry but bachelorette parties and not not to say that palm springs is like an exclusively gay thing it's fine it's just like you get the sense that now more than ever and i i love the straight girlies but like at the gay bar during Pride it's like that's not really your space like when the real hostels of Salt Lake City went to Palm

Springs and stayed at the Trixie Motel and then they went over to like the gay bars and stuff I was like I think this has changed forever and it did like it was different this year than it's ever been wow because of Salt Lake I mean I don't know I can't I haven't researched did. It was different this year than it's ever been. Wow. Because of Salt Lake. I mean, I don't know.

I haven't researched my findings. Those were historic episodes. They certainly were. And I wouldn't take them back at all. But I just noticed that the gay bars in Palm Springs this Memorial Day weekend, it was a

different situation than years past. For sure. When is that going to come back, Salt Lake? It's done. They've shot the season. The fall. The ladies did very well at the Lost Culture, Resilient Culture Awards nominations. They did really well.

They're up for the Bene Gesserit Award for Group of Women That Slay. For Most Slay group of women. Yeah. Most slay group of women. They're up for Best Picture Literal Picture. Whoa.

Is it the Last Supper picture? It is. No, it's the one for women on a beach. Oh, of course. Of course. Yeah. The Last Supper picture, though, is pretty good. That got snubbed.

It got snubbed. and we're getting a lot of flack for snubbing the rumors and nastiness and receipts proof timelines. But listen, we don't control it. It's like we don't control the nominations.

Sorry. That's okay. The last separate picture will get like an Obie or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. Speaking of nominations, I nominate Ben as one of our best guests, one of our favorite people.

That's nice. This album is so good. I absolutely loved listening to it. Every second of it. Honey Mind is streaming now, and you got to go see Ben at the Palace. You just have to. You'll be giving yourself a big

gift, like I said. And if you don't live in New York, I'm going on tour after that. So I'm coming somewhere near you. So come see me. It'll be like pretty much the same thing. Stream Honey Mind now, I said. And I and Matt was saying he nominates Ben. I have the envelope in my

hand. And the winner is Ben Platt babe you won babe you won wake up my adrenals are so shot from the palace they don't even know how to react you gotta go see him quick

before his adrenals totally give out cause they're on their last legs. Thank you for this award. He's chugging room temperature water just for you. From the whole episode, it's gone. That's good. You need your strength. We love you, Diva.

Love you guys. Thanks for having me back. Of fucking corks. We end every episode with a song. Don't wish. Don't start. Wishing only wounds the heart. That's the girl

he chose. Is that the right one? There's a girl I know. There's a girl I know. Give me a little channel. He loves her so. I'm not that girl. I'm giving a lot of fury.

To hear the rest of that, listen to the Wicked soundtrack. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm Cheryl Swoops. And I'm Tarika Foster-Brasby. And on our new podcast, we're talking about the real obstacles women face day to day. Because no matter who you are, there are levels to what we experience as

women. And T and I have no problem going there. Listen to Levels to This with Cheryl Swoops and Tariqa Foster-Brasby, an iHeart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest

artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy, Elian Gonzalez, was found off the coast of Florida.

And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski.

And we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players of all times, from legends to our buddies to current stars. We're finally answering the age-old question, what kind of dudes are these dudes? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes

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