Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Goop Di Goop" (w/ D'Arcy Carden)

Episode Date: June 19, 2018

WE ARE HAPPY because the immensely hilarious NY Sister & LA Queen D’Arcy Carden is back on LC! Coming off the first I Don’t Think So, Honey! Live in LA, Matt & Bowen & D’Arcy debrief on the raucous night and catch up since D’Arcy’s last appearance on the show. They discuss the differences between NY & LA (and the differences don’t stop at Las Culturistas!), the 3 most evil people in the world, D’Arcy’s role as the antagonist in “An Emmy For Megan”, Set Life on The Good Place & Barry, the world of moderating panels & conducting interviews, and SO MUCH MORE. Plus, a call from Matt’s parents!—LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:twitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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you know how people say it's a distinction without a difference this is a distinction with a difference okay so a jingy is a little jingle and we said

and we sing HPB now you might be asking who is HPB well you will HPB if you listen to our last episode

with Ira Madison III you know HPB hot producer Brett he's the LA counterpart to HPJ and also we want to say something what we love you forever dog and we love you so much

and we love Echoplex yes because we this is listen it'll already have happened and they'll have been an episode already

right after we've done it but this is, listen, it'll already have happened and they'll have been an episode already right after we've done it. But this is, we are recording this episode the day after our show at Echoplex and we were gagged because I don't think so, honey. Played in LA, honey. It played in Hollywood. They liked it. They liked it. But we can talk about the differences.

Oh yeah, please. The New York and LA differences do not stop at Las Culturistas, honey. It is a different energy. No, but it's really not. Not too different. Although this is the only thing. There was one difference. Well, let's bring our guest into this discussion, shall we?

And then we'll get the true. She's slayed. So our guest is really a New York sister. She's a New York sister, but she's an L.A. queen. That's true. Sometimes you go from a sister to a queen. It's actually a New York sister. She's a New York sister, but she's an LA queen. That's true. Sometimes you go from a sister to a queen. It's actually a rule of culture. She's got a sweatshirt that says what?

Upside down New York. Upside down New York. Yeah. Oh my God. She really did turn New York upside down. Can I say my rule of culture? Yes. It's rule of culture number 43.

You go from a princess to a queen. What did we say? I don't know. You go from a New York princess to an LA queen. Is that what we said? New York sister. You go from a New York sister

to an LA queen. Okay. One more time, bitch. Hold my hand. This has never happened before. And I also want to change what number it is because I know there's

a rule of culture number 43. Yeah, okay. So pick a number. It's rule of culture number 69. You go from a New York sister to an LA queen. I say the credits. You to an la queen and you want to say the credits you say the credits because you ordinarily say the credits i feel as of late yeah as of late i said that i can i can cop to that so you say the credits bitch i love it iconically our guest

plays janet on the good place and this is not a we throw around iconic a lot and so does the community really so does the community everyone throws around iconic a lot well this is not, we throw around iconic a lot. And so does the community. Really, so does the community. Everyone throws around iconic a lot. Well, this is real. Because once you have someone doing a Halloween costume after you, you bitch, you are icon. Yes. Anyway, she's also on HBO's Barry, Bill Hader Fish.

Bill Hader Fish, Kirby Howell Baptiste, Ryder Doyle, fish. Oh, I live. And she is, of course, the iconic, spoiler alert, villain in an Emmy for Megan. Yes, honestly, an Emmy for Megan? I don't know. Maybe an Emmy for Darcy. Maybe an Emmy in a real way for Darcy Carden. That's me. That's you.

Hi, Darcy. Hi, guys. Hello. Hi. And now let's ask, what was your experience last night? Because you were on the bandwagon for getting I Don't Think So Honey out in LA. I was, right? From day one.

Although I should have worn you, didn't I? You said it. Do you remember? I do remember. You said on this very podcast, on your last episode, you said, it's not going to be the same. It's hard to get that same vibe in an LA crowd. Yeah.

But. How do we feel? I think it was. Here's a couple things that I'll say. The Echoplex was amazing. It was. It was fucking packed to the gills. We loved.

Actually, when I walked into the theater, I was like, God damn, that's a lot of seats. Now, guess what, people? Not only was every seat filled, but like five rows deep of like a, like a horseshoe of people around, around the seat. LA came out. LA came out. They came out. So I was, that's part of it.

I feel like LA doesn't come out. They usually don't come out. It's so easy to stay in. Especially on a Tuesday night, as people mentioned. Yes. A Tuesday night late, not that late, but kind of late. Kind of late. Well, it started at 9.15 and then, you know, she's a long show.

She's a long show. Yeah. So they came out. I thought the energy was great. I mean, I will always sort of, I always do think that an LA crowd is a little, maybe not tamer, but a little more, is their guard up? They're a little more, not judgmental. What is it, guys?

Well, what is it? I think it's, okay, can I say this? Can I venture? You can say it. This is your show And the sharks can come for me The sharks come for me I would say maybe

And this happens in New York too But maybe especially in LA Given the makeup The composition of the crowd Maybe a lot of it is Why aren't I up there? Maybe You are reading

I'm not reading I'm just saying I have this too This wasn't the energy last night That everyone was celebrating I'm just saying that's not the energy. No, I feel you. Maybe I didn't even notice

that or whatever, but I don't think that's wrong. I felt that the crowd at Game Show was a little reserved. Darcy came to Game Show, which is Dave Mazzoni and I's show in New York. What a week we've had. We've had the week. I said to Darcy, I was like, we're going to see each other three days in show in New York. What a week we've had. We've had the week. I said to Darcy, I was like,

we are going to see each other three days in a row, and that is a week. I like. That's a week. And that's a week. Three days is famously a week. Yes. As a rule of culture number 702.

Three days is a week. Three days is a week. Three days is a week. But I felt, and I don't know if you felt this way, but when you came out to the show in New York, at Caveat, shout out to Caveat. What a fucking night.

That was electric energy. That was electric energy. Whereas at UCB Suns, but it was also a Monday at 10.30. You can't compare it. And also, God love UCB. They feed me breakfast every single morning,

whatever that means. But UCB Sunset is a hard room in general. It's similar to like UCB East, although different. Yeah, I think UCB East is tough because it feels so deep and you can't see anything. And UCB Sunset is so massive and such a high ceiling. Yeah. It's hard. And you very much see everyone.

Yes. And there was a nice crowd, but it wasn't packed to the gills. And that room, for me, historically, has only felt really good when there are people sitting on the ground. Yeah, yeah. It is really full. I'll sometimes see, like, I think, what's the show that Tarver does where they get high and do improv? Is that one like, wait, I don't know. I don't know.

I sometimes see the popular shows, like Mod Night, I guess. I'll see Instagram stories. Yeah. And it looks packed. And the energy feels like it looks good guess like I'll see like Instagram stories and it looks packed and the energy feels like it looks good yeah a sunset

ASCAD is fun I mean there'll be people you know like almost up to the stage but I've done so many shows there where it's not very packed and you just feel like

cavernous yeah are you still doing ASCAD every week? not every week but as many as I can as you can she's gotta have it

I gotta have it you gotta I simply have to. Yeah. Is it like church? It's a little bit like church. And you know I love church. I love to go to church with my family.

Let me point out one, the difference that I was going to point out with the LA crowd. Yeah, let's get back to Beau. Well, no, no, no. Really quickly, this is what I was going to mention. Whenever people pick the troll bowl, it was not as big of a novelty. I'm just going to say the New York crowd just goes fucking bananas over the troll bowl. Bananas over the troll bowl. I felt that too.

Maybe it's because there was a lot of writer types and actor types in the crowd who loved the text. Right, right, right, right, right. Actually, I was kind of shocked even in the second set of five when somebody, I can't remember who, said, should I do Trouble or should I do my Pre-Prepared? I was expecting just an uproar of Trouble. So many people said Pre-Prepared. And then I was like, oh, this is different.

Yeah, yeah. It was Greta Teitelman, I believe. Yes. Yes, I remember this moment. Yeah, I mean, listen, the differences between New York and LA do not stop at Las Vegas. Right.

But by the way, that being said, the show last night was a fucking hit. So fun. It was a home run. It was really fun. It was wonderful. And it really did for me, being a New York sister, it really felt homey in a way where I was like really pleased. I mean, that's a show that you could easily leave after you perform.

Do you know what I'm saying? Yes. And nobody did. Right. Like all 50 performers watched all 50 performances. you know what I'm saying? And nobody did. All 50 performers watched all 50 performances. That is so fun. I also like, I think like the performers during the show, like we sensed a nervousness amongst the performers.

We were all kind of rehearsing. It's so different from like the first time we did it in New York because I don't think anyone knew what the fuck it was. Yeah, I forgot. Nueva York yeah oh my god look at this

my mom would like to FaceTime should we or is that crazy HPB could cut this out if it doesn't work let's just see if this is gonna work okay okay

here we go hi mom hi babe alright so let me tell you something we are recording a podcast. There's Darcy Carden. Hi, Mom.

Hi. And there's Bowen. Hi, Katrina. And you are... Oh, yeah. Wait. Katrina Clitoratus. Cloritis.

No, Cloridus. Yeah, you're on the podcast, Mom. Mommy, I'm also Greek. Oh. Karajanis. Karajanis. Karajanis. Tikhanis. Mm-hmm.

Oh. Oh, my. That's about all I know, too. Yeah, yeah. Well, what about Spanagopita? Yeah, what about Baklava? Baklava. What about?

Oh, this is great. Yasas. Yes. Oh, you're doing Las Culturistas? You know it, mommy. That's what we're doing. We're doing Las Culturistas. Oh, my goodness. Take this, daddy. Oh, and there's my dad. it, mommy. That's what we're doing. We're doing Las Culturistas. Big fan daddy.

Oh, and there's my dad. Hi, daddy. There's Darcy Carden. Hi, daddy. There's Bowen Yang. That's my dad, Rich. Big fan, Darcy. Oh, Rich.

You guys are so great. Well, I'm a big fan of your family and your son. Yes. She's never said a kind word about Chelsea in her life. She doesn't know Chelsea. This is your guys' Las Colteristas podcast debut. Yeah, you guys are on. He easily could have just hung up,

but we're... Hello, world! What are you guys doing today? Well, nothing. We're hanging out. We just ordered a pizza. We just ate a pizza. Yeah, but the difference is ours is from New York.

Yeah, that's better. Wait, they're not seeing. There we go. There was a discussion. There was a discussion when we ordered the pizza about whether or not New York pizza was going to be definitively better than L.A. pizza. However, we just had a good L.A. pizza. Oh, good. It was nice and cheesy.

Oh, cheesy. It was cheesy. Yeah, but you see, I'm on TV, so you see what I'm eating. So Darcy didn't have the pizza. She had like a green juice. Well, Matt, you are a pizza boy. That's true. Well, Matt, you are a pizza boy.

Well, you are a pizza boy. How are you guys? No, Matt, now we have to stop. Honestly. Well, what? I see lately that it's got San Francisco in it. I remind your mother, hey, look what that is. Look what this is.

Yeah. Commercials, big San Francisco area. Wait, what are you saying? Say it again. I'm saying every commercial I see that's got San Francisco in it, I point out to your mom. Because you were just there. We were at Clusterfest.

And now I guess my dad is an aficionado on San Francisco. That's right. Well, that's good. If it's a bridge now I guess my dad is an aficionado on San Francisco that's right well that's good if it's a bridge I know what it is if it's a bridge I know what it is yes

the Golden Gate the Golden Gate famously yes alright so briefly summarize your day and then we have to go okay let's see

oh we went to the movies we saw Ocean's Gate Ocean's Gate I knew that I knew that was one. What did you, give a brief review. Well, I thought it was good, but it wasn't as exciting as Ocean's Eleven.

I like the Vegas background, but, you know, I'm all about women power, and I loved it. Saw Awkwafina in it. Yes. Awesome. Oh, and you guys saw her perform live, too. Yeah. Shout out in it. Yes. Awesome. And you guys saw her perform live too. Yeah. Shout out

to her. It was awesome. Yes. Even though you should have been able to expect the late twist being it's an Oceans movie. Yeah. I didn't see it coming and so that was fun. It was good. I thought they did a great job with it. Obviously a great cast so how could it not be good? I agree.

I thought it was really good with a very fun cast and very fun movie to watch wait Rich and Katrina and I loved Cate Blanchett's hair the best she looked good Rich and Katrina

I'm gonna pitch something it doesn't have to be every episode but I think you should do a mom and dad's reviews of movie culture well it's funny that you say that

because we just started on our Patreon we started a new kind of Patreon episode we're gonna be doing called Matt and Bo and our Cisco and Ebert bitch. So maybe we can get your feedback. I think you should. I think you should have, you know, a weekly or a monthly call in. That's a good idea.

So you guys stay available. Okay. Are you tech avail? Are you tech avail? I'm a retired teacher madam he's tech avail there you go well we have

confirmation on Rich we love you guys we love you thank you for I'll call you back later we can have a real conversation that's not performative oh my goodness

bye bye wow I love them did that work Brett it worked honey it worked honey you know what

even if it didn't work it fucking worked it fucking worked it worked baby wow that was that was fun. You know what? Even if it didn't work, it fucking worked. It fucking worked. It worked, baby. Wow, that was fun. Now we know that they saw Ocean's 8, which we also saw. And I'm seeing it tonight. Oh!

Ocean's 8. Wow. Okay, so I feel like there was a little bit of a spoiler there that there is a twist. Well, I listened to your Amram episode, so I've been fucking spoiled to death. I'm so sorry. Honestly, here's the deal. But you don't need to. Exactly.

That's not why I'm going. I'm not going for the twists. You know there's no conflict. Although I'll be pleased. You will be. But what are you going for? I'm going for the women. Yes.

Women power, as my mom said. I'm going for the acting. Yes. I'm going for the looks. Yes. There are looks. I'm not.

You're not going to Ocean's 8 for the intricately woven, realized conflict. No. If I get it, I'm pleased. But I'm going for the Sandy and the Kate and the fucking Paulson and the Anna. And the Aqua Fiends.

And the Helene. And the Mindy. And the Miss Mindy. It's truly a good cast. Did we leave anyone out? We left out Rihanna. Oh, let's never. Rule of culture number 112.

Never leave out Rihanna. This is a soup of words. But it's still a rule. And honey, we are swimming in the soup. Never leave out Rihanna. Did we wrap up? I don't think so. We did. Absolutely.

All I'll say is this. There was a nervousness amongst the performers. Oh, yeah. And I hope that this was a watershed moment for people that were maybe a little bit in their heads. Just know you can get up there and scream, honey. There were a lot of really good troll bowls, though. So good. Can we shout out some of the good troll bowls?

Yes, please. How about Emily Schmitz? Oh, Paul McCartney. I died. She is so goddamn funny. Oh, you two are old pals from basketball. Yes, we played basketball together. What? Yes, we played on basketball team together for funny. Oh, you two are old pals from basketball. Yes, we play basketball together. What?

Yes, we play on basketball team together for years. Oh my God, I love. I mean, not years like from you guys. Oh, but for a length of time. As long as I've been in LA. And one time we had like a date with my parents because I knew my parents would love her. And I think my mom bought her like a designing woman.

I can't think of the actress's name. Dixie Carter? No. I think my mom bought her like a designing woman. I can't think of the actress's name. Dixie Carter? No. Oh, God. We have to do this. The one with the most drama. Designing woman. Delta Burke?

Yes. A Delta Burke memoir or something. Anyway. Oh, that's fantastic. She was so good. I love that she got Paul McCartney. The thing that's so fun about the Trouble, which I'm sure you know if you listen, is that they're usually very beloved topics or people.

So getting Paul McCartney for most people would be very hard to do. But she went dork. She went dork. And we will not spoil too much about it because the live episodes will not have come out before this. So just know she picks Paul McCartney out and it's a slay. Another one that I really liked was Louis Vertel,

Chelsea Clinton. God damn it. He was amazing. That was fantastic. He has a very fast brain. Actually, when he was done, I said to my sister Miranda,

hi Miranda. Hi Miranda. She's listening. I was like, I would watch him do 10 in a row. 10 troll bowls in a row. I think it was like made for people like him.

Yeah. He did a very good one and also his first pull and I don't want to spoil too much but I guess I'm going to no I don't want to

take that from him. There's 50 fucking Okay I'm just going to say here's what I'm going to say. The instinct right off the bat the thing to pick on I think was exactly

the right thing. I totally agree. Which was The face? Yeah. Wait by the way did you hear what Bow I totally agree. Her face? Yes. Wait, by the way, did you hear what Bowen just said? The face?

He said her face. No, no, no, bitch. No, no, Louis, this is a light spoiler, Louis goes into the faces she makes at her, she made at her mother's. Okay, okay.

Great, great, great, great. Well, then I guess actually that's shade on me for even thinking that you were saying something else. You were projecting. Specific pulls. Yeah. Specific pulls. Loved loved it yeah that always works it's always good to get specific and that's actually rule of culture number 49 49 always good to get specific that is actually

very true that is true wouldn't you say we know we have an improv background yes we have an improv background two of us more than one of us but you know what do you even mean i were not struggle it was it was not your favorite i can i never was able to get out of my head when it came to improv like i was never i think if i did it now it would be better yeah because i've now i feel like very comfortable with myself but i was having a hard time when i started taking classes when i was 19 yeah and i didn't know myself and i didn't know how to naturally kind of like be myself on a know how to naturally kind of like be myself on a stage and that's kind of

rule number one. Right, right, right. Just be able to be natural and have a conversation with someone. Because at 19 you're like, I'm funny,

I gotta be funny, I gotta show them that I'm funny or whatever it is. Yeah, it's a tough time. I literally came out of the closet during my 101

which probably means there's other things to focus on than doing a grounded scene. It's a funny thing with improv because I'm like, go back to it,

but also, why would you? Right. You're not going to take a class. I also don't have the money. At this point, I'm well into my 40s

and not to say that people can't pick up improv whenever. Whenever. Because we've seen the classes. We've seen the classes.

There's a Molly Crew. Yes. Did you ever teach? No. Did you ever want to? No. I always had a hard, I mean, I coached, but I always had a hard thing with teaching improv that I couldn't quite wrap my head around, which is like, I know the rules, but I have

a hard time telling someone they're doing it wrong because it's so sort of like, what is, what's a good word for it? It's nebula. Like it's an amorphous art form. It's amorphous and it's also, there's a good word that starts with the letter C.

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it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it means it basically means I think it's good but someone else might not

oh it's subjective subjective it starts with a C and it's subjective yes we look we made HPB we made you laugh

didn't we bitch yeah I love it I knew we'd get them oh I knew we'd fucking I agree with you I coach characters and sometimes sketch,

and that's something where it's kind of more like I'm comfortable because there's a script there. We can go through it and jokes and everything, and I can give my perspective and opinion. But in terms of improv, it is like – there are different things that work for different people. And there's no – yeah, yeah, yeah. You make it up as you – you literally make it up as you go along.

You truly do. Right. So I could be like, here's something – I feel like I had, oh, NPH is going to call me out for saying like so much. Oh, my God. Let me tell you something. Shady, shady bitch.

That NPH is shady. Shady, have we had run-ins with NPH, Dars? Have I? Yeah. Not in this town. Not in this town. Not in this town. Not in this town. Well, in New York, but he was totally nice.

But also, I have, you know, he's so rich and famous. He's so rich and famous. That's what I'm saying. Like, I was a little nervous. Spoiler alert for I Don't Think So Honey. I go in on Neil Patrick Harris hard. And also, I have a little bit of anxiety about it because you came up, like, right after. And your I Don't Think So Honey was was I can't believe you're all gonna like

talk shit about people on this podcast that's recorded and like people listen to it and then I was like oh shit I know I kind of wish I was last

right that would have been a great close there yeah just to kind of I mean troll the whole event I love it why did we do this

no yeah yeah yeah but honestly Neil that was an arrogant thing to tweet out it was but I think the way Rachel called it out afterwards well not in her own tweet But honestly, Neil, that was an arrogant thing to tweet out. It was. But I think the way Rachel called it out afterwards, well, not in her own tweet, but she did this interview.

She did an interview, yeah. GQ. GQ, she was like, you know, when you have 27 million followers, any unformed thought seems like a fucking gem, and so she probably thought it was like this. Yeah, because you get 10,000 likes on it. That's the thing that is kind of scary about twitter i agree with her what she said it's like at a certain point it's like you say something and like just because somebody likes it you feel like no it was good yeah but

there's like think about it like this there's billions of people in the world right just be you could be getting likes from the six worst people on planet earth oh my god the six we all know who they are yes we do we know who they. We all know who they are. Yes, we do. We know who they are and they know who they are. Title of the six. The six. No, I'll tell you what's so sick about them is that they know who they are.

Okay, here's the thing that is disgusting with the six. They know who they are. Should we name them? Should we name them? We'll all go around. Okay. You say one, then Darth.

We each get two. We each get two we each get two here we go okay oh my god you know it yeah I know Pam

oh my god Pam is the worst she knows it she knows it the way that she is Pam Pam also like has like a decent job

but she like will like rub it in your face yes yeah I mean I get it you work

at accounts payable, but like a cool office. Right. Whatever. No, I know. She's the worst. I know.

And then, okay. So it's hard for me because we're friends, but Ashley, Ashley. No, I don't even like when people bring her up. I know,

but it's like, here's the thing. You are actually funny and smart and cool. So why do you put all this other stuff on it that makes us fucking hate yeah seriously seriously i agree with you i agree with you all right i'm gonna say it don't kim jong-un oh my god and he knows he knows what he's doing it's about power and it's really disgusting and honestly like he's really corrupting people who aren't evil but just so fucking dumb yes and like it's crazy it's just crazy. And honestly, like he's really corrupting people who aren't evil, but just so fucking dumb.

Exactly. And like, it's crazy. It's just crazy to see. Okay. And now here's the thing. I was going to say Stalin. So this bit is now done

because you went to the top. Meaning like, like, you know what? I don't want to, you can, you only de-heighten. I agree with you.

Let's not de-heighten it. And also the three of them that we didn't name, they know who they are. They know who they are. Let's actually, okay. Let's edit this-heighten it. And also, the three of them that we didn't name, they know who they are. They know who they are. Let's actually, okay. Let's edit this to just, every time we said six, just say three.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, good. Okay, so let's get some clean. Okay, ready? Can we have some room tone? Room tone? Room tone for a second? I think we got it.

Okay, so ready? Three. Oh, wait, let's clean. Okay, so three. The three. Three. Great. Three. Three. three oh wait let's clean okay so three the three three three the three and I'm gonna just do

three the three okay good job you guys very good I thought we all gave you know colors emotional options

yes totally I love that yeah I really love that okay so I also oh I have nothing to say. Wait, wait, wait. Go, go, go.

I also just want to say, and I felt, I've thought this before. You don't think of yourself as an improviser, but I actually think on this podcast, you are a fucking wonderful improviser.

Well, thank you very much. That's nice. I'm hearkening back to the Patty Harrison episode. Oh, yeah. You are a yes-anding queen. I love to yes-and. Can I tell you? That's what I'm saying. I think if the Patty Harrison episode you are a yes anding queen I love to yes and can I tell you that's what I'm saying I think if I started to do it now

I think I'd be rather good rather good? yeah rather good I always second guess my words because I don't know my words but I do know my heart oh I know that that's a rule of cult I do know that let's put it on a t-shirt

but honestly honestly I just feel like put it on a t-shirt. Yeah. Honey. But honestly, like, honestly, honestly, but honestly, I just feel like, yeah, the reason I was so bad at it is because I was in my head. Like,

I've never felt the way I felt before my Lloyd audition. The blood left my feet. Oh, that's not a good feeling. I wanted to die. Where'd it go?

It went to my penis. Okay, mommy, daddy gonna listen because they on this episode. They have seen me do much worse. Yes, I'm sure. But literally I had just like slayed a mod audition. Slayed.

Slayed. And then I went in for like they did like an invited Lloyd callback and I was like invited to do it and I was like, oh no, they're gonna see me be literally the least funny person in the world and confirmed I was. I also think that it's like maybe a misconception that all funny people can do all the funny things. Meaning like writing, acting, improv, sketch that it's like maybe a misconception that all funny people can do all the funny things.

Like writing, acting, improv, sketch. It's like. They're different. Yeah, they're totally different. And it's weird. I think it's weird that like there's the Herald and that's what they do at UCB. And then there's Maud, which is like all sketch. Right.

You know what I mean? So it's like, did you do both? I did both. Yeah. Did you like the Herald as a form? Occasionally. When it worked, it was like magic. And when it didn't, it felt like you were...

Insane. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Like you couldn't make like a fucking something fit into another thing. Yeah. You couldn't make a square fit into another square. You couldn't make one square spit. Yes.

You couldn't make it spit. One spit. Yeah. You couldn't make it spit. You couldn't make one spit. But you are an improviser no no longer

no longer but he was so good for so many years and then you stopped doing it and I stopped doing it but then and now do you think you can't because you can

I did the last the last improv show I did was like all queer like all queer improvisers mostly queer audience like it was like

everything was set up for success and it was fine and I was like if I can't even like right if I can't even like, if I can't even like feel great about, not great.

But like, then why do it? Sure. Although it's like a great, it's like, you know, it's a lot of people's gateways. It was mine

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also being slept on is maybe a blessing. It's a blessing. When it comes to like later. I mean, also being slept on is maybe a blessing. It's a blessing. When it comes to like later. I don't know. Yeah, because I have a contract with them for 150 years. 150 years? Yeah, I'm signed with UCB for 150 years.

Oh my God. You got to figure out a way to get out of that. I know. I'll probably die in like two, three years. You think so? Yeah. Okay. Well then.

Your soul is fucked. You know why? Because I always text and walk. And walk. Yeah. And walk. Upstairs. Well, you know, whatever. I just and walk and walk yeah and walk upstairs well you know

whatever I just improv is it feels like a young man's game but I don't know if it makes you feel good do it

it's not too late I sometimes go through especially when I'm shooting she can't stop talking about shooting no I want you to continue to talk about shooting but I have a hard time

like sort of I get a little brain dead so I do less improv shows and then a month will go by or two months will go by even this last weekend i did an ass cat and i hadn't done it in in maybe two months and i i got nervous before where i was like do you remember yeah yeah but you remember do you is there a lot of room for improv on the good place set there is it's a it's a it's sort of a weird answer because there is room for it, but we don't do it almost at all. Like when I say room,

actually maybe it's because, wait, let me rephrase. There isn't really room for it. It is allowed, and I'm sure nobody would mind. The writers would love it. Mike Schur would love it. Nobody's telling us not to,

but it is so tightly scripted. That's what I was thinking. We almost don't change a fucking thing. Yeah. Because what's like the butterfly effect if you say like- That's what I was thinking. We almost don't change a fucking thing. Yeah. Because what's like the butterfly effect if you say like. That's part of the problem. My sister Jen. And then like.

And then everything. All. It's on a like a fast track to Storytown. Right. Yeah. Fast track to Storytown. As soon as you mentioned Jen. Right.

Yeah. Right. Do you feel that as you shoot more and more and more that you are liking it more and more and more that it becomes more of a family every single day like you can't wait to like raise your kids on this set

in the words of Pat Regan oh yeah in the words of anything in the words of Pat Regan um I so meaning do I like this particular

are you loving it I'm loving it I'm fucking loving it I had I had um I was talking to a friend okay fine my trainer oh my god it's rule of culture number 61 I was talking to a friend. Okay, fine, my trainer.

Oh my God, it's rule of culture number 61. I was talking to my friend. Okay, fine, my trainer. The way, what happened in your eyes when you were like, my friend. I was like, who was this friend? Oh, and then something clicked. What if my trainer was just me saying M apostrophe trainer and I was actually talking about Meghan trainer.

Meghan trainer, M trainer. Yeah. Anyway, she was like, are the days, like, does it get old, basically? She's like, you must be so busy and so tired and blah, blah, blah. And I was like, no, dude. It's fucking great. Because, I don't know. I do think it's really easy to complain about being on a set.

It's a weird thing that we've either all done or have heard. Oh, no. And when it comes out of my mouth, I feel like an idiot. Totally. I feel like an asshole. Because you just think, like, where would I rather be? Yeah, right. This is what I'm trying to do.

I'm so lucky. And, yeah, think of, like, any other job you've ever had. So I truly, deeply, like, I don't mind the 5 a.m. wake-up call. Wake-up call? Wake-up call for my fucking alarm clock? Yeah, wake 5 a.m. wake-up call. Wake-up call? Wake-up call for my fucking alarm clock? Yeah, wake-up call. The wake-up call. I think that is the wake-up call.

Yeah, that's the wake-up call. There's no long days if we add an extra scene to the end of the night and it pushes the night longer. I don't give a fuck. I never do. Never. And the PAs and everybody are very apologetic

because actors can be psychos. And I'm always like, we're fine. This is great. This is where I've always wanted to be and I'm here so I'm good. And you give me free food. Sometimes I'll be in a mindset like that and I'll see another actor

being crazy and I'll go out of my way to do the thing where you apologize for them and be like, we're having a really good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just so you know. Totally, totally, yeah. I also, like,

being on a set, it's like, the actors are treated like kings and queens or babies. It's really true. Either way, like they're treated like

little tiny puppies and they're, it's insane. And to complain about anything is hilarious because everybody else on the set is doing so much more than you are. So much more.

And they got there before you did. Yep. Even if you... Oh my God, that is so real. Right? Your call time is 5 a.m. Guess what? The other people got there at fucking 4.30 or 4 o'clock.

Or earlier. I was going to say 3-0 clock in the morning. Okay, 3-0 clock in the morning. Clock in the morning. Clock of the morning. Clock of the morning to you. But also, y'all have a great cast. Oh my God. Tight cast.

You and Kristen doing that Instagram live, I could have watched that for a decade. Great, thank you for watching. We'll do more. She is heaven on earth. Yeah, you said that on your last episode and I was like, really? Thank God. Yeah.

Because she seems that way. And there's a lot of celebs and we've just met a bunch of celebs over the past couple of weeks. And some of them when they come in and you're like, oh, that wasn't what I wanted. I want to say most. Yeah. But also they're not that we don't owe us anything. Right.

But it's wonderful when Kristen Bell is wonderful. And there's there's I just there are not enough words I fucking adore her she is such a good such a good person

but I I also think like her image is sort of squeaky clean she's like funny she's so funny and dirty

and real and down to earth and she's just she's like number one she's amazing we she's like number one. She's amazing. We put her on a dream list of people that we want to have on this podcast. I don't think that's impossible.

I don't think. And that's why we put her on the list. Because I wish you had an in. I wouldn't dare. I wouldn't dare put you in that position. Although next Instagram live, I'm just going to, I'm going to be commenting and never stop.

Great. And then I'll be like, Oh, this is, this is actually funny. This is my friend, Matt Rogers. This is so crazy. Um, I do going to be commenting and never stop. Great. And then I'll be like, oh, this is actually funny. This is my friend Matt Rogers. This is so crazy. I do this podcast with them occasionally once a year.

Once a year when they fly through town. I know you're so busy, but it would be such a gag if you did it. Oh, my God. She's in the game. Dax is doing it. She was on the wish list. Who else? Anna Faris was on the wish list.

Yeah, these are two podcast queens. They're podcast queens. Yeah podcast queens I mean I guess she's married to a podcast queen meaning Dax but these are two podcast people that's why I put them on there

and then our other reach was Michelle Visage from RuPaul's Drag Race great I bet she would do it well we interviewed her at Vulture Fest great and she was wonderful

start yeah start fucking going nuts on this just you guys have a thing. It's a fucking thing in the fucking world, okay? People are coming out

for it. You gotta treat it like a thing. Yes, go for it. You gotta treat it like a thing. Go for it. I understand being like, I don't wanna put someone out,

but like, go for it. And also, to be honest with you, like, there's the thing of like, like when we interviewed Margaret Cho. Yes.

Like, she's like a hero of mine. Totally a hero. And I find that i'm bad on those episodes like you you're in your head a little right because it's not my friend i'm talking to it's like someone that intimidates me deeply well you know that maybe we'll go away with time or maybe not i mean i hope so when i become a huge star yeah when i become very famous like oh i oh, I don't know, Tom Cruise. Okay, I've heard of him. Am I saying his last name right? Cruise.

C-R-U-Z. Yes, hon. Penelope's son. Yeah, of course, when he married. Penelope and then was her son. Was her son. When those things took place. Both those things happened.

I will probably be so famous that I'll be able to talk to anyone, even Glenn Close. Can I ask you a meta question? Yes, a medical question. Medical question. Meta. Meta. I always, okay, I don't know how you, so here's the thing. Matt and I, we are not necessarily equipped to interview celebrities in a way that is specific to

like real journalism. Real journalism. We are too, whatever. And so. We're goop-de-goop. You know what I mean? Poop-de-scoops. Poop-de-scoops. We actually majored in poop-de-scoop with a minor in goop-de-goop. Okay.

And then I just feel like I sometimes I don't know how you felt Matt I'm gonna give you some tea you can speak for me I'm not speaking for you I don't know if you felt this way during all these

crazy interview press room days I was like I feel like the biggest jackass asking these poor people the dumbest questions. Well, because we came up with all the questions and we don't know what to ask. And then, I don't know if you know about this,

but we got into a little bit of drama with Tracy. Yeah, I do know. It was so weird. And then they shit-talked us on the talk. Right. What the fuck? It was so freakish.

Yeah, what a thing. And we were like, why is this happening? We don't even do this so my question to Darcy is like what is I don't know

I don't even know what my fucking life is well just say what you feel and then we'll talk about it yes remember when I couldn't come up with the word yes

subjective yes do subjective but with this question okay okay thank you you speak

what is like what is your least I don't know but this is a shitty question this is loaded It's subjective, but with this question. Okay. Okay. Thank you. You speak. What is like, what is your least, I don't know, but this is a shitty question. This is loaded. Ask it and then we'll say it's shitty if it is. To you, what is like that underbelly? What, like, why do we feel shitty on the other side? And of course the other person feels shitty too. It's like, why, why, why does this thing happen where like publicists come in and like tell you what to say?

And like, what is that well okay it's it's hard because i did i also did what not as cool as what you guys have been doing but i did a like what are they called junket yeah i was interviewing right and it was it was a terrible day of my life it was like i there was all these things swirling around in my head i like i was was interviewing actors from this movie. I don't even, should I even say the names? It doesn't matter. This movie called The Orange, which was like Alia Shachat and the cute guy from the OC, Adam Brody. Oh, Ben Shachat and Mackenzie.

No, me and Adam Brody. That was very revealing right there. Yeah. Allison Janney. Like all these people that, Hughney. Like all these people that. Hugh Laurie. Like all these people that I look up to. And also I want to work with.

Yes. I want. It's the same. Tell me if this makes sense. When I worked at a restaurant and somebody famous would come in that I was a fan of. I would never tell them I was an actor. I never had anything other than here's your soup. Because I was like this is not the way this is going to happen.

No, Suda Green says never be a fan. Yes. I want to meet you when I'm your friend on a set with you. I don't want to meet you by telling. It's a hard thing because it's hard. Because it's not a guarantee. It's like, what are the options? And you interviewing someone, unless it's maybe your own talk show,

it feels like you're putting them talk show it feels like you're it feels like you're putting them out it feels like you're like begging for their time it just sucks by the way all that being said

the way you guys do it is right well that's what Vulture who is great by the way we love Vulture we love Vulture and they told us like

we want you guys to be yourselves interviewing them because they want like a fun take on the whole thing and so what we do is we go in there and we be ourselves totally now that i think to these people coming in most of the time goes great they love it but sometimes there's this situation

where you can't really read the person and with tracy he was hard to read because we thought maybe we were getting like tracy morgan the persona and he came in and he's like kind of like a weird, odd, eccentric guy. Right. And so we asked a pretty, you know, benign question.

Right. Which was, Bowen called him the star of The Last OG. And he was like, I'm not the star. It's not like that. So what we,

it was before we even brought up Tiffany that he was just like, I don't want to have this conversation. And then it turned into this beautiful meditation on set life. Yeah. It was great. And it seemed loose.

And then he's like, you know, we have to turn the attention to everyone. And I said, well, how has it been watching Tiffany Haddish blow up? Did you know her from before? And she said,

he's like, no, we're not going to talk about Tiffany. Do you know that this was referenced in her Hollywood Reporter article today? Yes. And so someone, Jesse, David Fox, at Vulture, sent it to us.

And she, I mean, her response, I think, is like so. It's telling. It's measured, but it's also, yeah, it's telling, but it's measured. She's just like, you know, like, it's just, like, I don't care. Like, it doesn't get to me because that's just Tracy being Tracy, which is great. And like, I've respected him for so long. It's just weird getting like, it's weird that this,

it's just weird that it happened to me. I just don't really, I'm having this weird reckoning with like. Is this like what you like, as far as you mean like doing this job? Yes, yes, yes. I mean, well, there's the thing of like, you get the opportunity.

And because we're both now entirely freelance like you don't say no to money no of course I know and then you get there and it's like you really want to represent

who you really are and I think for the most part we do but then the pull that like gets like the attention is like

this weird thing where we can like look bad and I look at the video and I feel like I look insane because I'm doing my performer thing

of nodding my head and flapping my foot and japping my japping my lip japping my lip yeah and you know that thing we all say

and I'm like oh I look insane because I'm not supposed to do that it's a weird like every fucking oh god

I mean do we learn from every interview I've done every what? Every, like, audition, every photo shoot, everything like that. I always talk to either my husband, Jason. Hi, Jay. Hi, Jason.

Or my manager, Justin. Hi, Justin. Hi, Justin. And at some point in the conversation, I'm like, well, you live and you learn. It's like I now know not to say it like that or I now know not to phrase a thing like that or do this pose or whatever. It's like we're just figuring it out as we go. And this is not career defining for you guys at all. It was like a little one of those weird little explosions where you're like, whoa.

But it's gone on. I mean, literally, who cares? It just was this thing of like a few days where I was like, oh, Julie Chen just called us inappropriate and disrespectful. Right, which of course you know you're not no I'm so respectful exactly and mostly appropriate but then you just feel like

it's a little out of your hands when somebody on a TV show is saying you know it can feel very like well now what do I do like I have to defend myself

but you guys are doing everything right everybody loves you everybody as we were everyone everyone not Kim Jong-un

not anymore. Not after I shaded her on this podcast. And yes, I called her, her. Not after we fucking took down the three. The three. The three, famously the three. But anyway, I don't know. That was like a little weird, a tiny weird moment.

But then you realize that happens millions of times a day, every day with the news cycle and the sensationalism of like the media. And maybe more now than ever, right? Right. Probably billions of times a day. Like a big, I mean.

A big fat trillion. A big fat trillion. But I mean, people even talk about this with, don't say his name, but the president and everything. Yeah. Like how quickly things happen.

Huge things happen. Yeah. And you fucking forget about that. So, you know, anyway, that wasn't even a, what you guys did about that. So, you know, anyway. That wasn't even a, what you guys did wasn't even a bad, it wasn't even bad.

You don't love it, but it wasn't even, I got it, I got it. And you know what I'll say to my manager and my husband? You live and you learn. This is my question. He found it.

Oh my God. I found it. Subjective. Ooh, a little jinky. A little jinky there. I was going to say, jinky. Callbacks galore. Just ask a question before you say that.

Okay, okay, okay, okay. So what is the thing that, if anything at all, what is the thing that gives you discomfort being on this side of things now? Wait, on the like. Interviewed. I think it is having my words being taken out of context, being afraid. Cause I'm like being,

I don't know, a funny, like a comedian. Yeah. You don't want to be able to be loose and feel cool about it. Yeah. And spoiler alert, but like my,

even my, um, my, I don't think so. Oh yeah. My train, my trainer, I don't think so.

Honey was kind of telling of where I'm at right now. Like I know I was joking, but it's also like, I'm afraid to say the wrong thing and have someone come for me or someone. I'm a little bit of a people pleaser in real life. And that doesn't go away when more people know your name. So I have found that I really have a hard time reading back interviews that I've done. I feel like I sound dumb and I feel like I sound like that's not really what I meant. You wrote it this way, but that's not how I.

And the headline that they put on is always like a headline to get people click and you're like, oh God, that was not like what I came there to say. Yes. And then also then I get in my head doubly because I'm like, I'm spinning out about this, but literally no one cares. Right, right, right, right. And then I'm like, who do I think I am?

Like, it's easy, you know. It is a Mobius strip of panic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I constantly am worried about that. Yeah. And especially because now, like literally, there's hundreds of hours of us talking.

Right, right, right. Forever. Like forever. And really, and it's just like, right, right. Forever. Like forever. And really, and it's just like, it's just out there in posterity. Which is freaky, baby. It's so freaky.

HPB, what are the ways that theoretically, if we wanted something completely... Were you laughing or were you enjoying? Are you crying because of my voice? No, he's laughing. Okay, good, babe. Wait, what are you saying, though? HPB, if we wanted something theoretically, completely are you saying, though? If we wanted something theoretically completely wiped,

wiped, like just scrubbed, no trace, how much would that cost? Who do we pay? It's free? It's free. Oh, that's so nice. You mean like off the internet or off of one of these episodes? No, I'm just saying like we need to dredge every fucking corner. Delete the podcast is what we're saying. No, I'm just saying like, we need to dredge every fucking corner.

Delete the podcast is what we're saying. No, I'm not saying delete the podcast. Delete an episode. I want a new identity. Stop. I need to get a new identity. Get your new identity, bitch. Sometimes I think about that.

I'm like, this might be a measure that any of us will have to take someday. Do you know what always makes me sad is people say, I'm catching up on the podcast. Wow. Different time. It's like that before the election. Oh yeah.

When we talked a lot about like how Hillary was like totally going to win. Like it was going to be so fucking exciting. Oh my God. And like literally there's like a two episode period where Donald Trump had just won and I feel like everyone's voice is just like down here. We were depressed here we were depressed we were depressed it was depressing

yeah and that lives and honestly it's a beautiful time capsule it is it is it is because pre-election

that was a different feeling in the world I know it honestly actually the thought of going back to a podcast and listening to it pre-Trump

is almost too much to bear it's too much to bear yeah I can't do it it's unbearable it's actually unbearable it's unbearable actually it's actually unbearable. It's unbearable. Actually, it's more than I can bear.

Yes, yes, yes. Far more than I would wish to bear. You know, Bowen, there's no one on the planet like me. Bowen. Yeah? I'm talking to you. Sorry, I was thinking about how there's no one on the planet like me. You know, there's no one on the planet like either

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Go forth. Fart more. Can I ask, because, okay, so speaking of press, you are getting some press. I saw you in a picture with all the supporting actors. And you know why? You know why they did it? Because it's Emmy season.

People are voting for their ballots. Emmy season. So here's the thing. Did you ever imagine that you would be like an Emmy contender? No. Did any contender? No. Did any of us? No.

But I'm not. I mean, I'm not. I'm not. Or like a contender. I don't know. Here's the thing. When you get enough notices where it's like scene stealer, scene stealer, scene stealer, like that's, and obviously like, you know, you're on a show that's a hit and has gotten

like critical, you know, award attention in the past. Right. That floats through the mind and then they invite you to come be in the picture. Right. And you go to an event for it. Right. It's like, oh my God.

Yeah, it is a little bit like, oh my God. Is it weird? It's weird. It's weird. It's mostly weird. It's really sweet. Sweet is a dumb word. Like flatter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's surreal. Yeah. And every, you know, year I look at that. Yeah. Hollywood reporter picture of everybody. And like, who is that? flatter. It's surreal and every year I look at that Hollywood reporter picture of everybody and I'm like, who is that? Those type of things are just so

nice. It's so goddamn nice and it feels so good, but also the second you get wrapped up in it in any way, you're fucked, right? It's what Amy says in Yes, Please. Right.

Where she's like, you want the cake. It's like, oh, it's the pudding. She's like, you say, I don't want pudding. It's my favorite book. I know. I don't want pudding. And then you fucking want pudding. Yeah.

Right. Right. Yeah. And you feel bad about it. And then you're like, wait, hold on. I'm supposed to be one of the cool people who doesn't care about this shit and knows that it's like an industry. Right.

You know what I mean? So it's like, but you can't help it. You can't help it. Well, when people start saying it or telling you or whatever, then you're like, eh? But I think you just got to think, eh. Yeah. Ted Danson said something cool. What was that cool?

What did that cool man say? Which I kind of am clinging onto, which is like, you don't want to win. Like, I'm going to paraphrase, but he was basically like, you want to be the underdog so that people say they should have been nominated or they should have won. You don't want to win and then have them say, why did they win? You want to be in the Elizabeth Moss position. Yes. Where you lose every time and therefore then when you win, it's like an event and everyone stands up. Yeah, right, right. You don't want to be the person who wins and everyone's like,

hmm, okay, yeah, cool, cool, cool. You want to be the person that they leap to their goddamn feet. Totally, totally. That's actually a real culture number. 79. You want to be the person that they leap to their goddamn feet. Yes, that is so true. May we all, may we all.

May we all. May we all win an Emmy. And speaking of winning an Emmy. Oh. We're talking to the antagonist of an Emmy for Megan. Now, forget your Emmy chances. This is

someone who really has a shot at the gold. I think so. Now, tell us about what it was like to be on set with Megan and how are you feeling about her chances going forward? And what's the energy like in Hollywood? Because it's like, I, you know, we were friends and I was happy. And then I murdered her.

So it's like this weird thing of like, I still remember what it was like to be her friend and be like rooting for her. But then also I'm like, but then I think to that sort of like animal instinct of like murdering her. Of course, of course, because she had to go at that point. Of course, but we have to mention it's fiction. It's outstanding, short form digital comedy or drama. It has to be fictionalized, has to be heavily scripted.

Your episode was heavily scripted. Such good writing in the episode. What are some gems? We have a favorite line. I did improvise one line. Yes. Our favorite is, did you like the script?

Yes. Yes. The way you say, yes. Period. And even, even. We rewind it five times. You say,

it was like reading Shakespeare. Megan goes, oh my God, that is the biggest compliment. You think Shakespeare's good? Yeah, I think he was pretty good at the romance and the comedy and the drama. You guys were killing us.

It was my favorite day. The funnest. You guys are so cute. Hey, hun. Hi, Darce. Hey, hun. Hi, hun. We didn't know her from before.

We recorded with her, and now best friend. Yeah, best friend. She is so lovely. We love her. What a freak. We recorded with her and now best friend. She is so lovely. We love. What a freak. I fucking love her. Freako.

Freako. We met the year I moved here because Jen Statsky, our mute friend. Yes, Jen Statsky. Invited. I don't mean to say invited. She said, who wants to go see Beyonce? And this is years ago when it was Jay-Z and Beyonce the first time together. Maybe not the first time, but a few years ago.

At some point. Yeah. And so we met at a Beyonce concert, which is like a fun origin story. It's a really fun origin story. And then I got weirdly drunk. And I fell down. Oh. At the concert?

After the concert. After. I don't like getting drunk to the point of falling down. No. But we snuck in a flask of vodka. Oh my God. Which is a fucking move After the concert. After. I don't like getting drunk to the point of falling down but we've snuck in a flask of vodka which is a fucking move at a concert because the drinks are so expensive.

$13 beers. What did we pay for that? Tell yourself that MetLife we paid like You're gonna pay $20. $20. It was like $22 for the margaritas.

It's a joke but also you gotta suck it down. You gotta suck it down at that concert. I had to be drunk to watch her parade out Uzo Aduba and be like she's my best friend. It's like no she's your down. You got to suck it down at that concert. I had to be drunk to watch her parade out Uzo Aduba and be like, she's my best friend.

It's like, no, she's your prop. Yes. You literally just want us to think you have a diverse group of friends, but honey, I don't think so. You better be careful. This is recorded for posterity. I'm fine with Taylor Swift's thinking. So you fell down.

Yeah, I fell down. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I fell down. But it was okay. It was like, it wasn't like, oh, God, Darcy, are you okay? It was more like, oh, wow. Yeah. It fell down. But it was okay. It was like a, it wasn't like a, oh, God, Darcy, are you okay? It was more like, oh, wow. Yeah.

It was fun. Instant bonding. It was so fun, you guys. And Megan thought it was really fun. Megan got a migraine right after the show. It was a wild night. Oh, my God.

The show was great. Sarah Schneider was also there. So it was Sarah Schneider, Jen Statsky, Megan Amram, and me. What a good group. I know half the group so well,

too. Half of the group so well too half of the group are my best friends and the other two I don't know but the fact that they're such good friends with you

makes me feel like oh my god I could hit it off oh for sure with Jen and Sarah you would love gangbusters gangbusters

gangbusters I've met Sarah briefly once have not met Jen Jen come in for you girl I'll pick you up can I tell you my mortifying Jen story? Yes.

Oh, my gosh. She's my wife. She's my true wife. She's your wife. True wife. I acted a damn fool in front of her. This was 2012. The winter of 2012, Dangerbox, my improv group at NYU, went down to D.C.

I think with Hammer Cats. Yeah, we were there. And then she was there with Travis's group. Travis Helwig's group. Her husband. Her now husband. But they were dating at the time. But then the after party was this place and some person, someone who went to GW's dorm.

And then I just got really drunk. I was just basically, I committed the cardinal sin of being a fan and I just went up to her and said. Oh no, I hate it. I was like, oh my God, I think you're so funny. I mean, it was mortifying no it's great it's great I just think I'm just like

I can never bounce back from that one you can't I don't know you absolutely can't bitch this is what happened she slapped you across the face she slapped me across the face

no this is this is mortifying oh no there was a foosball table people were playing foosball Travis was with Jen on one corner and then like

Jen and I there are a couple of them. Yeah, it is. Very heteronormative. So couple heteronormative. It's really oppressive. We made eye contact and then I was like, oh my god, that's Jen Statsky. She tweeted once one of my favorite tweets, a quote. Hey, does anyone know where to

get good Hey There Delilah ringtones? Attributed a rapist. I think that's so funny. So funny. I think that's so funny. So funny. I love quoting tweets. Wait, I want to... Go, go, go. Okay, one of my favorites of hers was...

Fuck. Okay, James... It's so much better than I'm making it. James Van Der Beek walks into a doctor's office and the doctor says, okay, let's take a little Van Der Peek. It's better than that. You understand it's better than that.

Oh, man. But, I mean, truly an artist. And so we made eye contact, and then I had a friend. I forgot who it was. Wow. I whispered to them, and then I literally pointed at her from across the table and was like, No, no, no, no, no. I was wasted.

I was like, that's Jen Statsky. No, no. She's so funny on Twitter. And then, like, Jen. And I. No, no. She's so funny on Twitter. And then like Jen. No. And I shouted across the table. No, no, no. Yeah.

I was like, oh my God, I am such an admirer of yours. HPB is crawling under his skin. No. Yeah, he has secondhand impact. I don't think it's that bad. Keep going. I mean, that's it. And she was so sweet about it.

She is so sweet. So sweet. I bet it made her damn night. I don't know. It's nice to hear nice things. I guess. I know there's like a, I know this fan thing,

it's always a question. It's the reason I can't sleep at night when I think about the fact that I've taken a picture with Harry Styles. I never wanted to do that. Oh, but that's part of your story now. Right, right, right. That's a pop star moment.

You gotta. But even still, I was like, I don't, it's so hard to do the fan thing. But also, it's nice to be told you're good at the thing you're doing.

Yes. Right? So she, it's all good. Yes. Like, it's, when somebody says they love the show,

are you like, Oh my God, no, it's the best. I love it. It's nice. It's so nice. I guess it all depends on the context

or if the person is a fucking weirdo. Sure. I just feel, I believe in my heart that I was a fucking weirdo that night. Well, let's take back the night. a fucking weirdo. Sure. I just feel, I believe in my heart that I was a fucking weirdo that night. Well, let's take back the night. Take back the night. Well, now we've given her lots of free

publicity. Press. So that now everyone can follow her on Twitter. She's amazing. At Jen Statsky. Come on. At Jen Statsky. And guess what?

We weren't paid a dollar. Not a dollar. Not a dollar. Free press. Not a fucking dollar. Oh, I love her so much. Hold on, you guys. Now that we're saying this,

how insane was my dad before saying that he was a big fan of yours? Oh my God, he was so insane. But you're kidding, right? Because that was the sweetest thing. Yeah, no. I mean, even that he like, like what a cool dad to know.

I turned it and he said big fan. Oh my God. He didn't know. He didn't know. He doesn't know my schedule. He wasn't ready. But he was ready. But Oh my God. He didn't know. He didn't know. He doesn't know my schedule. He wasn't ready. But he was ready. But he was ready.

Stay ready. Okay, that was really sweet. Actually, I fucking loved it. They're a legit fan. Wow. And here's the thing. An Emmy for Megan is going to skyrocket your profile

this Emmy season. And I said, it's going to help you in your own category because she was very shrewd and didn't give you enough episodes to be considered for her series. Because then there would be trouble. No.

I really think she could definitely. I think she might. I think she might. I don't really know what goes into it, but I'm like. Did you see the other day when, oh, this is another thing that I would say before. Jonathan Van Ness like put on his Instagram story, who is Megan? Yes. When he was driving past the billboard and named me for Megan.

Well, okay, so here's the thing. We interviewed him at Vulture Fest with Justin Theroux. And we had a fun time with him. But then, the other day, we were at Earwolf and he was coming by. And ordinarily, I'd be like, oh my god, hi, we interviewed you at Vulture Fest.

But I think we were so, like, we didn't want him to know us as the interviewers oh it's like what we're talking about so we said nothing we just let him walk by and I don't think he recognized us anyway

but the thing is like he's someone I'd like to be like really best friends with but by the way I've known him for years yes okay explain this

he is the fucking best he had this web series called Gay of Thrones yes and we clicked and then he was cutting my hair you were on Gay of Thrones and we clicked and then he was cutting my hair

but he is the best and he remains the best he's so wonderful and good and fun and you guys would get along I feel that we would I love him so much

Gangnam Style the way he approached us was so sweet he was like hello but like it was just a thing where we were like oh

we're not gonna reintroduce ourselves like this and so we just let it slide I would like to meet him sitting in the chair you're sitting in right now as a peer

yes exactly he I also liked when he so he it was a little shady right he's like who is Megan but then his

not even apology his next Instagram story was like Megan your fans love you and then he's like whatever it was it was really cute I love Instagram story was like, Megan, your fans love you. And then he's like, whatever it was,

it was really cute. I love it. It was like, you know. It was a Neil Patrick Harris moment. No, it was so much better. It was so much better. It was,

he really was truly like, He was curious. Yeah, he was getting curious. He was getting curious. Wow. Have you been on the pod? Getting curious?

Yeah. What would I even, what would I, I don't know, get curious about something. About what? What could I possibly teach? I'm a dumb idiot. Life on set.

Okay, here's, you wake up. I'm! And you hop in the shower. Okay. Ooh, glamorous. You come to set. You sit there with your moisturized face ready to be made up. Wow.

And you go over your, I don't know. Okay, here's the thing. Here's a question I have. I also want to talk about Barry Barry okay so The Good Place

amazing environment Barry oh my god spill the tea no there's no tea it's so fucking dumb it is so dumb they are

they are the highlights of my life wow it was actually I actually shot season two of Good Place and season one of Barry at the same time we caught you right after i think so yeah yes i remember a few months which was bonkers as

you can imagine wacko and leading up to it i was like well i've already i mean i don't think i was like well i guess i was about to say like how am i gonna like barry as much as the good place i wasn't even thinking that you already had like a blessed experience. And then it was so equally blessed slash, wait, you put blessed in my mouth. How dare you? I really shouldn't have said blessed. Don't put Darcy in this position. So grateful.

Grateful. So I would, it just was like a dream team, two dream teams for different reasons like the way the acting class in Barry

fell in love with each other we wouldn't we'd be wrapped and we would stay for two hours in the makeup room just like screaming

and laughing and singing it was very summer camp oh my god I love that and then like there's different vibes

but I can't I truly if you put a gun to my head and please don't no I love my phone I could bring it on the plane yes I think that. And then, like, there's different vibes, but I can't, I truly, if you put a gun to my head, and please don't. No, I love my phone. Yes, I think that's a good idea.

Yeah, I can bring it on the plane. I couldn't pick what I like better. They are so fun, and so, just the environment is incredible, and to work with a man like Ted Danson, and to work with a man like Henry Winkler,

it's just, it's like, the pudding, or whatever you were talking about. It's the pudding. It's like the pudding or whatever you're talking about. It's the pudding. It's the fucking pudding. True or false? Yeah. If Barry felt like summer camp is the good place, the best school.

Yes. Okay. Yes. It's like maybe like, you know, I don't want to say theater school because theater school can be habits ups and downs. The connotations. But it's like, yeah,'s like the university that you're so yeah, you wanted

to go to this university and you got into this university. I will say from your Instagram, it looks like you knew everyone on the cast of Barry before. The weird thing is that we, so okay, do you like timeline stuff? It's so fun, right? I love

timeline. So before the pod started so fun, right? I love timeline. So before the pod started recording today, we were talking about booking. Yeah, we were talking about booking jobs. And I was saying that I never, ever book jobs. This is true. Okay? I never book jobs. We accept.

Deception is not reality. I audition constantly or as much as I can get. Right, right, right. But I never book. When I got The Good Place, I got buried within the same month. Wow. What a month. I know.

What a month. So that seems like I book all the time. You understand what I'm saying? The rates, the frequencies. I was going to say, perception is not reality. And I'm also not 21. I'm deep. I'm deep, deep much more.

You're 26. Deep much more. Deep much more. You're 26. Yes. Deep much more. Deep much more. Yeah. And so I have – so that's how long I've known the Barry cast. Yeah. We did read-throughs immediately. We – Henry taught the acting class like a two, three-hour-long acting class on the day we all met.

Wow. Can you imagine? A real acting class. Yes. Improv, acting, everything. Wait, seriously? Yes. Henry himself taught it?

That was like an exercise you guys did? Oh my God. It really, I'm telling you, it was summer camp. It was like, Bill and Alec Berg

tried to just, I don't know why or how they knew to do this, but they were like, they just made us love each other instantly. Oh! I mean,

yeah, they are really into the cast dynamic and us loving each other, and it works. And that's what I'm saying. I watch the Instagram stories that you guys post. Yeah. Because I think I'm also Instagram friends with Ryder. Ryder and Kirby.

But we've never met, but I love the energy. I will have, yeah. Love the energy. But it seems like you guys all know each other in a real way like I was like oh those are people that all knew each other

beforehand and that's like that's carried on to this end it's not beforehand other than I knew Kirby just from UCB but not that well

at all she is amazing she is she is a oh my god she makes me emotional I love her so much we gotta get her

on the pod too can I well can I quickly say what she told me last night she was what she said so spoiler alert I as a way to

exemplify what a troll bull draw was I did my I don't think so honey last night I couldn't believe what I pulled out of that bull I was thinking about her when you

yes and I was thinking about her too I even name dropped her on mine but Matt drew Sandra O for me I couldn't believe it I looked at it and I said

this is gonna be a good night yeah exactly and I was all over the place just I couldn't believe it. And I said, this is going to be a good night. Yeah, exactly. And I was all over the place, just couldn't find something to latch on to. You were great. So anyway, did my thing on Sandra Oh. But then Kirby stops me after the show and she goes, Bowen, I need to tell you this. I knew I had to tell you this before the show. But the fact that you did your thing on Sandra Oh is crazy.

I have to tell you that she pushed so hard for my part to not be another white British actress. Oh, great. And she was like – like the director and everyone was like, Sandra, we need to move on. We need to start shooting. We can't set the schedule behind. And Sandra Oh was like, no. Keep auditioning. Keep auditioning.

The Brits in L.A. I need to see – we need to see everybody. Like we need to see everyone. And by the way, who could be better in that role than Kirby? Have you guys watched it? No one. I've seen,

I'm waiting, I know it's done now and I have to binge it, but I've watched the first two episodes. She's perfect. She is great. Jason, hi Jason.

Hi Jason. By the way, he never listens to podcasts. Jason worked on it? No, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry. He would, when we were watching it, he would always rewind her scenes.

And he's a bitch about acting. Really? Yes. But he was like, oh my God, watch what Kirby does in this scene. Anyway, I love Kirby to death.

I fucking love her. And I have a big scoop and tea and everything for you guys. Oh my God. I can't believe you just said that to the listeners. Only because it's a spoiler and everything for you guys after we record. Oh my God. I can't believe you just said that to the listeners. Only because it's a spoiler

and they will find out. Okay. Yes, yes, yes. How will they find out? They will. They'll just be living in pop culture, bitch. Really quickly, I have to go back and reference a joke

that Darcy made earlier that I think is truly iconic. If you were to put it onto my head and please don't. Did you see my yes end? Yeah, I did. I left mine at home. Improviser. That's world building.

You gotta fill it out. He's an improviser. I really feel very happy that you guys think that. You really are. Honestly, for so many years of my life, I put so much importance on that, and i felt so uncool that i wasn't able to improvise like being in comedy and not being able to do improv and at the time like not being able to do stand-up at all i was just sketch i was like i feel like a

like a wolf in sheep's clothing right i totally understand yeah yeah when your skills are not put in a box go back and listen to your episode with patty the second one. Can I tell you something? This is crazy. I'm going to admit this. I listened to that episode three times. It is the fucking funniest thing. She kills me.

So you know how I said Jason doesn't listen to podcasts and he really doesn't. Or he doesn't listen to comedy. He listens to smart podcasts. No shade to any of us. No, no, no. This is a dumb podcast.

You need a break sometimes. I think when it's your life, you need a break. Yeah. But he it's your life, you need a break. Yeah. But he, I made him listen to the tour story. Oh my God.

Out of context, I made him listen to the whole thing and he was definitely into it. I think she's the next Sarah Silverman. Yeah. Like that level.

Ooh. I think that big, that level, that new, that fresh, that iconic of a take. Yeah, she's incredible. What are you laughing at?

The set that she did at Clusterfest, Joel Kim Booster hosted a show called The Joy Fuck Club. God, he's so hot. He is extremely hot. I know, I know.

And sometimes it's frustrating to have a hot friend. It's frustrating to have a hot friend. Like, someone that's like exorbitantly hot. And like, it seems effortlessly hot.

Yeah. Maybe not, I don't know. No, it's effortless. But I mean, those goddamn shoulders and those tank tops. Then last night, last night he was like, oh, effortlessly hot. Yeah. Maybe not. I don't know. But I mean, those goddamn shoulders and those tank tops. Then last night, last night he was like, oh, I'm having a breakdown. I don't think I look good tonight. I'm like, bitch.

Bitch. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, I have an acne. I have acne. I have an acne. I have an acne. He was being a dumb bitch. Yeah.

He often is a dumb bitch. He's cluster fast. So she like essentially just did crowd work for eight minutes as like her dumb character oh god and like I was just like this is something that

I could watch for an hour it's endless she is endless she is culture I love her she is culture have you met her in person

yes and we met doing this other podcast called oh WTF with Marc Maron well I was about to say Positive America, but it's not that.

It's Love It or Leave It. Love It or Leave It, yes. You guys did Love It or Leave It? Please edit out that breath. That long breath. I refuse to edit it out. I love Love It or Leave It. She was a guest and I was doing a character, so to speak.

And it was one of those... I like the meetings where you kind of come in like, we know each other. We know each other and we know it's going to go well. I like that. And then we kind of quickly became like, you know, DM friends to text. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Text friends.

When you texted all of us and said, I listened to the app, I thought, oh, they must be friends. Right, well, we are. You have a vibe of whenever I see you with your chemistry, with your people around you, I think, oh, they must be friends for years. I'll tell you what, I like who I like. Oh. And when I like them, I like them. And when I don't like them, I don't want to see them ever again.

Yeah, never again. But I'll act like I like them. Yeah, for sure. Are you good at doing that? I like to be in charge of that stuff. Do you think you're good at doing that? I think you are. I think it's a skill I have.

And such a good skill. You guys, when I was a little kid, I asked my dad one time, do you think it's okay? When I was a little kid. No, stop, stop, stop. I said to my dad as he was putting me to bed, do you think it's okay if I say I love myself? What a little cocky bitch.

No, that's what we all need. You figured it out well before the rest of us. Wow, if you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you going to love somebody else? Can I get a toughest bitch in the bed? The reason I say that is just because what I said was really cocky. Sometimes I have little bits of cockiness. No, it wasn't.

My dad raised me to be very cocky and think that I am better than people. And what's your dad's name? Dennis William Mustafa Erikin. And Dennis William Mustafa Erikin. God bless you for teaching that. God bless you. Can I tell you what I'm singing inside my head? What? You know the RuPaul song?

I am American, American. Yeah, what? If you were little, you could have sang, I am an Eriken, an Eriken. She gets that all the time. Oh, I don't, but I- Oh, really? You're only going to get that from us.

Yeah, yeah. That's just the take. That's a Times Square stomping song, I would say. Oh! only gonna get that from us yeah yeah that's that's the time square stomping song i would say my time square stomping song is hair by lady gaga that's a good one it's great mine is usually waiting for life to begin from once on this island and that is not a joke and it's also not like a fierce song it's like fully musical theater but does hair hair starts clomping right I don't know hair

oh oh oh oh you mean Lady Gaga hair yeah I was in Broadway World it starts with like Clarence Clemons sax that's the chorus

I'm sorry I did the instrumental where it's like the Clarence Clemons sax you know what I think her best song for stomping is and I think bad an underrated song. It's

The beat like hurts. Yes. That is a great God, those first Three years? It was R-Pop 3. The third album. That was the third album.

It's Fame, Fame, Monster to count it. Right, right, right. So no, I mean, I don't I don't even three years was R-Pop three the third album that was the third album it's fame fame monster right right right so no I mean I don't I don't even I know R-Pop was sort of like underwhelming to most people I don't even hate it

I just it didn't grab me but it's but you know what now it's this thing is happening where it's aging well it ages well

a couple of my faves would be I mean applause kills gypsy life gypsy gypsy life gypsy gypsy

also I will say Donatella yes also I will say fashion Venus I don't love G-U-Y but at the time

I didn't like it now I think I like it more yeah I do think it's aging well I totally agree but those first 2.5 or whatever you want to call them albums

they were so incredible top to bottom top to bottom I'll kill her no killer and then Joanne Joanne I can't I loveanne. I can't.

I love Joanne. I can't get enough. What do we think Star is Born trailer? Can you agree with that? I mean, I've got to watch it a million more times. I've only watched it twice. But I mean, I'm thrilled. When it came out, I think I caught it right when it came out.

And I just cut and paste the like, oh my God, watch this to like 10 people. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I like, I truly am moved by it yes it's going to be I don't I really

really really in my old age don't like getting over excited for movies because we're so often disappointed of course but with this one

I really am like it's gonna be my favorite no I'm gonna will it to be my favorite movie ever even if it's like doesn't exactly have that I just

feel like there's nothing more I love than and also I grew up with the movie funny girl so I think that's an association with that movie but I love like a story where you see like a transformation over time and like it looks like it's gonna be very that like it's gonna start out with her looking like quote-unquote younger and like um in her one thing and then she transforms into someone else and then she has to look back on her life and say what have i become oh my god i need it and you know what if it's not our favorite movie do go ahead and put that gun to my head oh i'll have to go all the way home and then get it and bring it back here and then okay you do that so much easier yeah then I will jump in and say guys what no

no I don't I'll shoot you I'll just take care of you then okay and then I'll die bang bang into the tomb

oh wait is that what he's saying no bang bang into the room but I'm going to the tomb bang bang into the tomb okay

I think it's time I think it's tomb wow okay so we actually said before in the text thread that you guys weren't privy to Lost Culture Recess listeners

that we were because you guys aren't on the text thread are they not we should put them on no I think it would get kind of crazy we are going to do

all troll bowl I don't think so honey today and just to put just to like preface I guess I am terrified of the troll bowl I didn't want I didn't even consider doing the troll bowl because I'm not a good ranter.

And we will. I'm not. But meanwhile, you're a good improviser. Okay. And that's why I felt that you were a contender to do the troll bowl because you have the improv quality. Okay, well, let's, maybe it'll work out. But also, but I'm a word stumbler. I'm a can't get the thoughts out.

That's what, cut this part out. What was his name? Louis? Vertel. Okay. When he trollballed, you don't have to cut it out. Do, actually do. No, don't.

Do it. Just go. And text him and tell him I said it. And tell him the minute and second so that he can just really feel it. I mean, now we can't cut it out because it's a great comedic moment. It's a great moment. I don't know that he listens to this. Okay, great.

But also, it almost doesn't matter because he was so, I mean, I have already complimented him. He blew my mind. Listen, it's net positive for Louis Vertel

on the podcast today. Yeah, yeah. But when I- HPB is laughing. Look at him chuckling. He's a laugher. When he troll-bowled and it sounded like

he had said it a million times outside, I was like, that is a skill that I do not have. Babe, you're preaching to the choir. We are. We're always a fucking mess. Goof-a-loofa. I think, honestly, this is...

You're goop-de-goop. Goop-de-goop, poop-de-scoop. I would say we're supposed to be like the connoisseurs. I don't think so, honey. Everyone's always like, oh, I guess they must do it the best. We're pretty bad. I would rank myself last night, like, I'm going to put myself at like 39. Come on.

Yeah, I was like a good 40. No, because you broke your own rule. You literally did what you said you weren't going to do. I actually love you. Which is twist. Twist. Like why did you leave me? Because you're so good.

There you go. But I couldn't believe we pulled that off. I didn't blame you. Because what are you going to do? Talk shit about Sandra? Oh, one day you guys are going to have a lavish lunch. Yeah. But I was a little disappointed in mine.

But that's only because I had prepared another one. Neil Patrick Harris. Oh, right. I had prepared it. But then Ira Madison III did it on an episode. So I just decided to make it part of my intro so I could be longer and bitchier. It's time for the troll bowl. Scoop-de-doop.

It's time for. Okay, so how are we going to do this? Because you don't have an actual bowl. So here's what I think we should do. Oh, yeah. We'll go clockwise and I'll look through the list and I'll pick one.

Okay, great. Wait, so then you pick one for me. I'm going to pick one for you. You pick one for Darcy. Darcy will pick one for me. Okay, cool. Okay, so. Bang, bang into the tomb.

Okay, Bowen Yang, your I don't think so, honey, troll bowl topic is Ellen Page. Oh, my God. Your time starts now. I don't think so honey troll bowl topic is Ellen Page and your time starts now I don't think so honey Ellen Page how dare you come out of the closet after you peek that is

so feckless and craven I can't believe you would the timing is a little suspicious honey Ellen Ellen I don't think so honey you you know, storming into this scene. That's textbook.

You know, getting the nomination a little too early, wouldn't you say? I would say. But I did love her in Juno, but then she followed up with what? 30 seconds. That roller derby movie? Whip It. Drew Barrymore directed it.

I actually support it fully. But Ellen Page, the timing of the coming out is a little suspicious. We needed you before Marriage Equality. You know what I'm saying? I think she came out after. But we needed you before.

But you know what? 15 seconds. I think I truly love you. But I think that my one little little spot my little no no is the coming out timing I do agree that it was suspect

but everybody comes out in their own you know and we don't shame we only lift her up and I don't shame your I don't think so honey know you don't. I don't mean any of that. We only lift her up. And I don't shame your, I don't think so, honey,

because it's, you know, we're all playing. There's literally no shame. No, there's actually no shame. There's actually no shame. Yeah, there's actually. All right, so now Bowen is going to pick one for Darcy. See, there's one on this

that's screaming at me and it's just like, but it's so, it's so on the nose, but Darcy would have so much fun with it and like not have to worry about saying something.

I think we can go for it. Oh my God, I'm so scared. You think so? Okay, Darcy. Bang, bang, and too much. Is it going to be too much? No. Okay, Darcy would have so much fun with it and not have to worry about saying something. I think we can go for it. Oh my God, I'm so scared. You think so? Okay, Darcy. Bang, bang into my tooth. Is it going to be too much? No. Okay, Darcy Carden,

your trouble, I don't think so, honey, is Kristen Bell. Okay, I don't think so, honey. Kristen Bell. Drag her! You think you can have Kristen Bell. Drag her! You are, you think you can have this fucking perfect empire.

You do it all. You make us look like shit. You come to set with your lines memorized. You have two perfect children. You have a loving husband. You have Neutrogena. A bar! You have, 30 seconds, drag her. You have a loving husband. You have Neutrogena. You have... 30 seconds, drag her.

This bar saves lives, which is a great granola bar. And meanwhile, I have a goddamn dog and I live in a two-bedroom apartment. You make me look like a fucking fool. 15 seconds. And then you have the nerve to be one of my best friends you bitch

Kristen Bell I don't think so 5 seconds honey I love you I will not stand for this that's one minute you've both broken the rules

we did pick one for me I don't care what it is they're getting dragged I'm gonna show you guys how it goes that is so funny I definitely thought Kristen

was going to come up last night and I was going to die. I had her in the bowl. Did you? I did. I was hoping a writer or star of the show would pull her. Oh, actually, I have one. I have a great one. Okay. Your topic. Wait, your I don't think so honey is. As I call it,

the fabulous Mrs. Maisie, but as I call it the fabulous Mrs. Maisie but it's actually called the marvelous Mrs. Maisel time starts now I don't think so honey marvelous Mrs. Maisel I am friends with Rachel Brosnahan but guess what I still didn't even get through the whole first season honey

it wasn't because of the quality it's cause I got busy I thought it was a very good show you're doing it no I'm not but I feel that um oh my god it's so well done that it makes other shows look bad honey

you are not allowing other shows to shine honestly that's 30 seconds I will say this this is real like is it the funniest show out there like i don't think it's the funniest show out there so when it wins comedies it's like kind of like i don't think so honey or like like awards for comedies i think it's like that gray area thing so i don't think so honey it being considered like a comedy it's not like a laugh out loud

funny it's like we get that she's good at stand-up and yes the jokes are funny but it's like you know it's not a comedy comedy but I do love Rachel Brosnan I think you're a bright new star and I think that you will win the Emmy in a real way and fuck you for that I don't think so honey awards

shows right now in this moment that are putting we need one more like category I feel like also dramedy or something honestly i think they should split it up into just half hour an hour yeah maybe because that that makes more sense to me right because right now it's like you have like shit like i don't know like like for example for a little while there like glee was competing with stuff like 30 rock right and i was like these feel first of all glee feels like a light drama

because it's an hour long and you have to have dramatic elements. Yeah. Like I don't know I guess I just think that the way you write an hour long show is similar across all platforms and also you have to do kind of similar things. Like I think that like hour long should compete with hour long and half hour should compete with half hour. That's really smart.

Because that's just it makes more sense to me. The screen time is the same. You get a lot more opportunity to do more on a show like that. TV show award shows right now are a little bit goop-de-goop. Goop-de-goop. I'm in a weird spot, I think.

What Rachel Brosnahan does on Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is different than what, like, what Allison Janney does on Mom. And both are great, right? Exactly. And to put them against each other

is, like, kind of goofy. It's weird. I think, like, I just think that should be considered. For your consideration, Emmy's a change. And some of the things

that like let's say like a Betty Gilpin does on Glow is like she's fucking hilarious but I mean she's like but it's a dramatic performance

she's doing drama destroys me and she's she's out of this world yeah she's amazing beautiful stunning

can I end on another fan story but this is actually something I'm not ashamed of okay was it a table read in this movie that she's in

that I and I have I have a bit part as and Brandon Scott Jones okay great I have a bit part as his boyfriend and it's

the most perfect thing in the world that I play his significant other did you guys get to kiss yeah many times I've assisted a lot

he's a good kisser. Yeah. But Betty Gilpin was there and like this was right as Glow came out and like she had red hair and she looked great and I

it was just very casual like Sunita brought me in and introduced me to her and I was like hi you're fantastic on Glow and you're like you are you are so so good

and she was just very sweet and that is a fan that is a sort of pseudo fan interaction that I'm okay with yeah and also Priyanka Chopra is in that movie

and Bowen said that he is that she is more beautiful in person it's true I heard okay I have another question off the air

great off the air off the air okay I'm so sorry anyway but Betty that's how we ended I have a question for you

off the air okay great we're gonna go there now thank you so much bye no but Betty, iconic. Iconic.

Yeah, she really is. This episode. I have a question for you guys. Go, go, go.

When did you find your culture? Oh! JK, we got to be done. Oh, wait, did you wrap it for me?

My story takes an hour. Yeah, exactly. To be really concise, Kelly Clarkson, Disney World, Survivor. Yes. Okay, great. Japanese RPGs. Matt TV.

And because we got Fox better than we got NBC on my antenna because I didn't have cable. And math. Yes. And now you say you're three, even though we asked you 100 episodes ago. Oh, my God. Say your three. My three? Yeah, you know the three.

Okay. Okay. It was Stacy. Uh-huh. Angela. Sam. Pam. Pam.

It was Pam, Stacy. Ashley. Ashley. Ashley. Ashley. Same names to me. Okay. Here. It was Pam, Stacey, Ashley, Ashley, Ashley. Same names to me. Yeah. Okay. Here's what it was.

My three. It was Pam, Ashley, and Kim, John. But they're so bad. They're so bad. You know,

they know it. You know who else knows they bad? The listeners of Las Culturistas. You know you bad. And listen, here's what I would say. If you haven't written us a review, write us a nice five-star review. And also subscribe.

And go ahead and grab. Be a bitch to your friends this pride. Honestly. Oh, wait. Tell them really quick and then we're out. Tell them what you walked in on me last night. Do you remember? When I was walking out of the bathroom?

Oh, my God. Yes, you were singing it. That's it. She was walking out of the bathroom? Oh my God, yes. You were singing it. That's it. She was walking out of the bathroom and she was like, be a bitch to your friends. And I was like, hi. We like bumped into each other.

That's so good. Wait, hold on. Oh my God. So yeah, leave us a five star review, rate, subscribe, steal your friends and family's phones and you can subscribe on their phones as well. It's a little trick that I learned from HPJ.

Apple Store. But we're going to leave with a song. Yes yes which is my single that's out right now i've been i'm kind of performing it all around i performed it at um uh our show i don't think so honey i performed it at another show pictured this at the virgil i performed it all on twitter and instagram and you can find that and retweet that. It's very viral potential. Here it is. Be a bitch to your friends. Be a bitch to your closest friends. This pride alienate all your closest friends by being a bitch to them.

Ay, ay, shake your bitchy ass. Ay, ay, shake your bitchy face. Ay, ay, shake it all around. Ay, ay, be a bitch to your friends. This pride. This pride. Be a bitch to your friends. This pride. This pride. Be a bitch to your friends for no reason. Tell them that they are stupid

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