Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Grape Culture" (w/ Punam Patel)

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

Well, there's only one word to say: Punam!!! The boys link up with Matt's Emmy-nominated co-star Punam Patel, who to this day regrets not meeting up with them in Mexico City, (COVID scare notwithstanding). Much is discussed with the "I Love That for You" star, from scamming yourself into an acting career through comedy, to the moment when your child's ass and penis are no longer yours to tuck. Also: establishments they look forward to visiting/avoiding on future CDMX visits, the angelic behavior of Aidy Bryant, AIM away messages that were emo as hell, and much more. Get ready to be completely awestruck by Punam's philosophy on haggling and how you can never cede the best of yourself to someone else, whether it's at West Elm or the bindi jewelry store. Stream "I Love That for You" on Showtime on Fridays or watch live, Sundays at 8:30ET/PT!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Yet another episode for us. Hmm. I gotta say. Yeah. I'm all out of sorts.

What? And I'm gonna blame it on. Don't say me. No. Oh. When have I ever blamed you for something bad? Blame it on the alcohol. Blame it on the boogie.

Oh, so what is the third blame it? Blame it on... Blame it on your love. Oh my God. There you go. Iconic. Okay, three. We got Charlie, Michael Jackson, and who does blame it on alcohol?

It's... Oh, that's... Blame it on the alcohol. Blame it on the alcohol. I want to say is... Blame it on it. Jamie Foxx. I was going to guess Jamie Foxx. Wow. alcohol it's um that's um blame it on the alcohol i want to say is jamie fox i was gonna guess jamie fox but i was like i was like i think it's a movie actor and and and wouldn't you know it well actually this is this is huge jamie fox is one of the most famous movie actors that there is

he's someone who's who's really achieved it all wouldn't you say he's kind of like emma stone he's like the male emma Stone I would say that Jamie Foxx is the male Emma Stone and what film were they in together Culturista? Is it an animated film? No Very much live action That film was The Amazing Spider-Man Oh my god you're right

Sequel Where she spoiler alert fucking dies Sorry Gwen I blame it on the eclipse i guess we're in an eclipse in scorpio you're kidding i only care now because channy nicholas is really connecting with me you need to you need to listen to channy okay everybody i really will everybody in this zoom should listen to channy nicholas the app is. There's a free 30-day trial when Mercury's in retrograde.

What? We're in retrograde. I see. What a crazy journey we've been on in Lost Culture. Remember when I was like vehemently anti-astrology on this podcast? I really do. And also, I've been on my own journey with it. I was not always, you know, one with the stars.

Certainly not. Mystic girl. I was not always a myst one with the stars certainly not mystic girl i was not always mystic girl crystal one and now i think mystic girl would be my aim screen name what would you okay so you're yours would be mystic girl yeah mine would be i love this alreadyra hibernating with an ing or hibernating s u m m 3 r iconic h 1 b 3 r n 4 oh my god the four is an a is such a power i n q fuck ing slay Slay Go off Proceed to heaven guys

Do you wanna know what I did today? This is how fucked up things are I always wanna know what you did everyday I was supposed to like Not eat too much today Cause I really went for it over the weekend I made a baked ziti out of nowhere Two o'clock rolls around

I go I'm gonna make a baked ziti for eight you can do that i have the ingredients i guess that's all you really need that's all you really need if you want to make a baked ziti in the middle of the fucking day and now i'm like weighed down by dairy and pomodoro i mean but but what a beautiful experience it is during the eating it's always worth it. I would say, it's actually rule of culture. During the eating, it's always worth it.

If that's rule of culture number one, what number was that again? 47? Correct. Right. But during the eating, it's always worth it. And I have to tell you,

I felt like Erika Jayne herself when I woke up this morning and had McDonald's wrappers all over. and you go, hers were Taco Bell wrappers, though. Yeah, and I thought she really personally dragged me when she said, when you wake up in the morning

and you see Taco Bell wrappers and you don't remember why they got there, it's a problem. I was just like, okay, drag me to absolute hell. Drag me, I guess I'm an alcoholic. Hashtag my life, my career. My career. We can't get into Housewives right now.

It's a lot it's really a lot and we might need to and well let's just say this we have someone returning to the podcast very soon in the coming weeks who will have a lot to say and also we can't we can't yet reveal exactly a platform that we'll be on together to discuss housewives but I think you can use context clues. You love bitches. Oh my god. Little hint dropper. Little hint dropper. Matt, I am really, really excited for this week's guest.

I'm so platonically rock hard for our guest. It's like out of control. There was a moment when we were in Mexico City over New Year's where there was a potential for this person to meet up with us when we were on a night out. Can I tell you, I felt a little flutter

in my stomach. I was fluttering down. In my heart, I'm sorry. Stomach sounds digestive. In my heart. And heart even sounds like arrhythmic. So I'm sorry. We get it though. I just want to say, I was like, I get to meet. I get to meet her. So basically, this person... And it didn't person, it did not happen because, well,

there's only one word to say COVID. There's really only one word to say. That's actually rule of culture number 99. There's really only one word to say COVID. So applicable to life and culture nowadays, especially now that it's she back to quote Joanna Gold from I Love That For You. And it's interesting I bring that up

because our guest is an iconic role in the show I Love That For You on which I also, they throw this word around a lot, but it's really applies here, quote unquote star. I absolutely stan our guest and her role as Bina

on I Love That For You a character that let's just say my character sort of gets into it with you two really have this perfect TV feud that makes the viewer at home go they must love each other IRL

you know Beau it's that classic thing what they always say about Rachel McAd mcaddo's playing regina george you need someone kind to play someone so evil yeah you need people that truly love each other to hate each other so viscerally and i remember when i read some things in the script and i'm actually thrilled to say that later in the season it does get physical between us spoiler spoiler but when i read in the script that we would get to scream at each other in a hallway in front of our colleagues i really my heart was a fluttering stomach heart all of it screaming in a comedy is all you need i love it so much and my character is sort of dry and like speaks in like a sort of low voice like this so i never really get to scream and when i got to scream the following two words at our guest fuck you i really really really was happy about that

me too i think the viewer at home was very happy too i laughed i had to laugh go back rewind 15 seconds on the apple tv remote honey hit the 15 seconds why don't you i want to see that again i want to see that one again i am watching that get the fag back on the screen i'm watching that shout out to our iconic guest star guest star tyra banks oh my god that was so fun she nailed it she improvised most of what she did that's so fun i was like who wrote this this is so funny talking about going to space. Like she, she knew what general world to play in.

By the way, speaking of improviser, this is a true legend in the thread. And there's an interesting connection between her and one of our favorite people in the world. 80. Oh, we got to talk.

And get this. I'm in this zoom right now with two Emmy nominated actors. We have an Emmy nominee in the chat. Two. In the guest chat. Two. I'm not counting myself. But you factually were nominated.

Okay? Yes, but I'm putting the focus on our guest and her nomination. Chivalrous of you. For playing Kim in Special. Yes, and Special is, of course, iconic work. And listen, we could continue to dilly dally but let's let's start the dance i'd say let's start the dance please welcome oh my god but like it would be cool if you guys just kept talking about me and i never said

anything yeah you should that would have been like iconic power move. Yeah, I just get to sit here and listen to you give me affirmation. If you didn't mind it, we would do it. No, I would love it. We love it. You deserve it thoroughly. I feel like, especially actors, like, whenever someone's like, oh, I don't like watching myself. I'm so humble.

I'm like, you're, like, literally we got into this profession because we love attention yeah stop acting like i can't watch myself oh my god i can't i had to i was just thinking about this today like before this i was like downstairs like getting water and for some reason a thought crossed my mind like we can't pretend that we're in this for like noble reasons you know no it's all vanity yeah like sometimes i come up with noble reasons to like justify because i was a journalism major so for a long time i was like i'm gonna work for vice i'm gonna be a foreign correspondent i'm gonna make a difference and then you know i started

acting and i was like well my yuck em ups aren't helping the world and then i like i was like no my presence on tv is normalization and that's important and diversity and da da da da but at the end of the day it's like we love attention so when people are like oh my gosh i like don't want my picture taken it feels so weird i'm like no it doesn't that's literally what you signed up to do because you love it exactly this is the candor that we have you here for okay this is sort of this is we wanted to give you this platform so you could tell all these other self-serious motherfuckers to shut the fuck up like only bina could yes what kitty what's the story on mexico city so you got covid while you

were there no i didn't get covid while i was there we didn't meet You had a scare. You had a scare. And so, and then I was like with a whole group of people and they had plans and then you guys had plans and they just weren't matching up. But I wish I would have just come and met up with you guys that night because it was so fun. It was so fun what you guys were doing at that club. I like looked it up and everything and I was like looking at the

Yelp pictures and I was sitting outside of a bar where the most exciting thing that happened was they handed us a bag of grapes. Yeah, you got. I was going to ask you. Okay. Yeah. We got the grapes.

I didn't know about this grape culture. Oh, my God. Grape culture. Title of that. I didn't know about grape culture until I went to Mexico City. And they can tell. What is it exactly? It's, you get 12 grapes and you're supposed to eat them.

They're supposed to represent the, you know, the last four months of the year. I see. It's a Spanish tradition. And so in Spanish speaking countries, okay, I'm reading this. It consists of eating a grape with each of the, oh, I'm sorry, with each of the 12 clock bell strikes

at midnight on December 31st to welcome the new year, each grape and clock bell strike represents the coming 12 months. So I got that mixed up. So it's the looking ahead. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I love the tradition. Love it.

And it was fun. And the grapes were very delicious, like hard, firm, juicy, not weird skin, green, no stem. My preferred grape is green. yeah yeah it's not a grape if it's not green because the purple ones leave like a weird film in your mouth but some of the people i was with terrible had more grapes than alcohol that night and i'm not shaming people that don't drink i am an ally to all yeah i know you to be but you wanted to turn up i know you you wanted to turn up and it was new year's eve and then once the grape arrived everyone was like stuffing their faces with grapes and i was like should we take a shot and they're like i'm good with my

grapes and i was like i'm good with my grapes i'm good with my grapes and i will say this punam you kind of were around what it seemed to be and i don't want to make any sort of like you were around a lot of straight people it was all couples and they were very nice and two and two of them i really really loved the other one i just didn't know them yeah so sometimes this thing happens when you don't know people and you're in a foreign country on a vacation on like one of the most fun nights of the year they can kind of come off as like energy vampire yeah and I'm like I don't know what the opposite of a vampire

is like I'm like energy non-stop vomit yeah I think energy vomiter the opposite of a vampire is six flags guy I'm the six flags guy energy six flags guy party motivator.

I think if you're in a couple, I think a lot of couples, when they come together, they become energy vampire. That's what, that's what happened. But see my couple, yeah,

but my couple is like literally two versions of me, just in two different genders. So it's like double six, it's 12 flags. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then it was two energy vampires.

And I was like, what was the name of the bar we were at Beau for New Years it was not a great it was not a great bar I will say I did not think it was great but I will say this the like

dancers they had at that bar that night on New Years Eve were the most beautiful men I had ever seen in my entire life they were beautiful yes they were shocking blow bar that night on New Year's Eve were the most beautiful men I'd ever seen in my entire life. Yes. They were shocking. Blow bar. That's what it was called. Blow bar.

Yes. I looked it up. A blow bar. You had to be at blow bar that night. A 3.3 on Google Maps. Not great. Oh, but the pictures, like one of the first pictures, I think was like two people with like devil masks on.

And I was like, I want to be there. Yeah. That was really the vibe, to be there yeah that was really the vibe to be honest with you it was devilish yeah but it was not good i just put i want you to know that you were not missing anything and i want to say the people i was were all very nice and we still had fun it was just a different type of grape based fun yes uh that i wasn't expecting well we're at this we're we're about to hit the you know the five month mark yeah um we're four and a half months into this year how

do we do we want to reflect already on what the year is i feel like starting the year in mexico i was hoping that it would be like a new a new uh frontier and it hasn't been it's all it's all been the same oh do you feel like it's not been the same because it's been bad or it's just been like monotonous monotonous it's been very monotonous it's been like not much has changed since january i have to say i think for us it's been different yes because we made we got to make yeah q1 was pretty packed you know you know i actually famously got covid in mexico city and yeah i was maybe then be like good thing we didn't hang out i know exactly and i was very concerned because we were gonna start shooting like kind of

right away and then they end up pushing because of there's only really one word to say, COVID. So then we shot. We shot for eight weeks. And, you know, I genuinely felt there were times when I would see Poonam Patel and I would sort of my heart would leap out of my chest. And I knew I loved you from the pilot. But then I felt like every single time you had any, like, interaction with Poonam, like, itam, it was always a better, brighter day. And I also have to say, you're so fucking funny in the show. So funny. I mean, not to boomerang it back, but I got to. Don't do that.

I gotta boomerang it. I know it's annoying, but I have to. Also, Poonam showed up for the virtual press day looking supermodel. Of course. Well, because my character is so frumpy, so I was like, I have to fucking step it up.

And then for premiere, I was like, I have to go full hoe. You look absolutely stunned. Mob wife. Oh my. You looked incredible at the premiere.

Because I'm in like a braid and like a flannel. And I was like, I have to commemorate this body because it's not going to look like this forever and i like worked really hard on it so i'm like we got to show it off yeah you were giving legs we had to we had no choice and now now i don't ever want to say you're not showing them wish granted we live in california so i can always be like kind of naked yeah it's true so in this

news in this news project you're doing where you play you we're speaking with you you're in toronto right now and you're filming your can we are we allowed to say or we can't say what it is but we can we say what the what you're who you're playing i think so okay so you're gonna sue us yeah what are they gonna fire you actually do that maybe i don't know it's no it's a major company but you're playing a mom for the very first time ever is it a mom who shows legs is it like a hot hoe mom um there is one portion where yes okay and i just had a wardrobe fitting for that portion and i was like let's go for it yeah so there is one portion and I was like let's go for the extreme because the rest I am but here's the thing the nice thing I like about the wardrobe department

was like just because she's a mom doesn't mean she has to be frumpy love no of course you know what I mean so it's still like like very flattering clothes and things like that but it's just funny because you know i'm 37 and when i got this part i was like wow what a stretch how is anyone gonna believe that i'm a mom and i have to be like bitch it is very like reasonable that i would have a 10 year old son right uh-huh but in my mind it's like unfathomable that anyone would ever believe that I have a kid because I don't. But it's normal for a lot of people my age to have children, I guess. It happens every day. It happens all the time.

And isn't it weird that we think it doesn't just because we're not around that many people who have them? No. Yeah. It's like we live in this different world which is a good thing but I have like it's when you like talk to your high school or college friends but you're like oh right. Where did you grow up? Florida.

Florida. And so that's but that that's its own thing that's its own environment where people are like on different timelines. Oh yeah. And then also like being Indian you know it's like honestly how am i even alive that i'm not married and have children right now like am i even indian you know yeah i'm starting to feel i'm starting to feel that now all of a

sudden yeah i feel like my parents are telling me about these kids i grew up with who are like starting families now and i'm like i are you disappointed that I'm not doing that? Well, how about Bucky? I have an older sister that married another Patel and had two purebred Indian children. So I'm like, thank you so much for your sacrifice.

So they got that, so I'm like, you're good. They're sort of looking the other way at the moment. Yes, they're distracted. You know what I've realized, Bowen? I have never asked you, do you want children? I think at this time, no. Same. At this time, it feels like, especially after we talked to Jessie on this pod.

Yeah. And like reading her book, I was like, parenting sounds like the hardest thing you could possibly do. Oh, yeah. I don't think I could. I don't think I have it. The gumption or whatever. Not that it takes gumption to be a good parent or whatever. I just don't have like that capacity.

Do you, Poonam? You know, for a long, long time, especially my 20s, I was like, hell no. I am not having kids.'m gonna travel for the rest of my life and eat good food and this and that and I think something happens especially for women as we're getting older and we're constantly reminded that our bodies are withering away and our eggs are like running out of our body every day that I'm like, Oh, I kind of have to decide, but I feel like really, really open. I think also because I'm with someone for the first time that I could imagine

that kind of life with and a family with, I just think I hadn't really dated anyone that I could imagine having a family with, let alone like even being with the next week. But like, I think now that I have to like kind of know a little bit um i feel really open to it but with the big caveat that i've realized is it caveat or caveat i think it's i think it's sort of tomato tomato i think it really is i mean i sell um but i realize I'm not going to do it unless I'm really rich enough to afford every single type of help available.

Yes, yes, yes. I'm talking night nurse, nanny, babysitter, home with separate wing. I honestly think working in childcare, you should be paid at least seven figures. Oh, it's such a grueling job. And I think there's like shame, especially towards women where it's like, well, you don't even work. You just stay home and you still have help to raise your kids. And I'm like, yeah, it's like the hardest thing in the world. It's like a little gremlin.

Fucking little, you push out a little goober and then it's like latching onto you, sucking the life out of you ruining your body ruining your mood you go into depression yeah i'm gonna need some help yeah i also think there is a time in a young young child's life where it's like there's like a period of time where they are dead set on trying to accidentally kill themselves like they're trying to they're absolutely trying to run into a sharp corner they're really they're dead set on falling off a ledge like they will they'll sort of like crawl towards death and it's your job to keep the kid alive and that has to that's something i don't think i could personally deal with i was talking about this today. I was co-hosting the podcast Attitudes and Aaron Gibson asked if I would ever want a child. And I was like, 95% of me says no,

but I think there's 5% possibility that I could meet someone, fall absolutely head over heels in love with them and they're my entire world. And if they were like, I must have children, then I could see myself doing it and it wouldn't be you know the craziest worst thing in the world because I do think

I would be a good parent if I ever got over myself but but that's like a really really narrow margin 100% relate the real housewives of Salt Lake City

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Because, I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are, opening up the friendship circle. To you. Someone's cheating? We've got you on that. In-laws are in-lying? Let's get into it. Toxic friendship? Air it out. We're on your side to help you with your concerns. Talk about ours. And every once in a while, bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us. While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Is it weird to act as a parent like what is what is is there a different philosophy to acting

that not philosophy but like a thing about acting that you're learning as like where you have to like pretend that you are this person's caretaker yeah especially because i've like met his mom and like she's this really sweet tiny indian woman who like wears indian clothes and she's like so sweet and like quiet and i'm like so i'm just like she must be looking at me being like this bitch gonna mother my son but you know the thing with like acting is i feel like i've like scammed the system a little bit. Because like, well, because I feel like I started in comedy. And I know we like act, but I haven't. We scammed our way in a little bit. It's a big difference.

A little bit. And so now I feel like people are like, oh, you can act. But I'm like, no no i'm just really sensitive and so i feel all my emotions like really deeply all the time yeah and then i'm just really good at triggering myself yes so do you do that do you do you trigger yourself with with with your own pain in order to go there yes and that's probably not how you act like you're supposed to act but i'm just like oh i'm supposed to feel this let me think of something really sad that happened to me and put myself back in that place and then i'm just like it's just like for therapy

uh-huh yeah i should probably learn like actual acting technique but then also i'm like well fuck it let's just see how long we could do this until someone's like bitch take a class right and like most i don't know i was like on like a on like an actor interview kick of like watching people talk about their process and most of these like these actors who we love are like i don't really have one right that's true a process you know they're like, it kind of just, like, it depends project to project. And if you're triggering yourself to elicit the appropriate emotion,

like, that's technique. Like, I think you're good. It's also really interesting. Sometimes, sometimes, when I'm playing a character and I can understand the emotional situation, and it's like, for example, in Fire Island, I have, like, and Bowen can, I'm absolutely a character and I can understand the emotional situation. And it's like,

for example, in fire Island, I have like, and bone can, I'm absolutely. I cannot wait to watch that thing, by the way. You're going to love it.

Um, but there's, there's emotional scenes for all the characters, but, and I think that because that was such a meta experience of doing that movie, it was not difficult to put ourselves in those characters shoes and therefore get to that emotional place. So that's one one thing but like darcy has some emotional stuff later in

the season and the shit that he gets upset about i could never get upset about so trying to conjure up like really really real seeming emotion over something that you have no connection to is really hard and so like on days when i had to be crying like i would just be trying to maintain that all day and the crew was like tiptoeing around me and i was like guys i'm not actually upset this is not real emotion that's what's that's what's so like annoying about it is you're like crying and like like really trying to get yourself there and i was trying to trigger myself and i couldn't do it and then i ended up crying because i was so frustrated that i couldn't do it. And then I ended up crying because I was so frustrated that I

couldn't do it. And I was like, well, I guess I got there. You got there. Who cares how? Yeah, I was just so disappointed that I cried and I was like, oh, well, I guess this will work too. Wow. Roll the tape. That's meta. That's meta. Wait, was there stuff with Bina this

season that you felt similarly about? Bina doesn't... Do you not really have any emotional meta does wait was there stuff with bina this season that you like felt similarly about bina doesn't do you don't really have no no no i'm saying i'm not not in terms of being emotional but in terms of like she's caring about something that i have no i don't care about whatsoever or the other way around um no she's like very different from me but that's why it's fun because it's like it's the kind of character where it's like those like deep inappropriate thoughts that we all have but like you know we're adults and we're good people so we don't say them she says them so in a way it's kind of

like scratching an itch because we all like i think secretly we all like want to be awful sometimes yeah like you know like when i first got to college and i was like in a lecture hall for the first time like in a history class or something like did you ever like have those urges where you just want to like stand up and yell something like really bad like really bad yeah yeah we've all had dark canceled bad and then i would i would like be like scared that i was gonna do it and then i'd be like don't don't say that and then i'd be like scared that I was going to do it. And then I'd be like, don't, don't say that. And then I'd be like, I'm not going to say that.

Oh my God, I'm going to say it. I'm going to just do it. It's like, I think we have, is it just me? Like, I think we have those urges,

but we're like good people. So we don't do it. Yeah. It's baby running to a ledge instinct. Yeah. It's a violent urge. Yeah. We do have it.

And like, so I think like when you get to play like someone like Bina, who's just fully unhinged, I get to just do it. And I have an excuse to do it. And hello, I get think like when you get to play like someone like Bina, who's just fully unhinged, I get to just do it and I have an excuse to do it. And hello, I get paid and rewarded to dream. Dream. What's the 80 connection? 80 Bryant.

So 80, as you know, was at Second City. So I like I was, you know, taking class at Second City and always watched her and like admired her. And then I got to audition when she got hired for SNL. got to audition to be her understudy oh cool and when even when I was auditioning um it was either when I was auditioning or then when I eventually got it she sent me like the nicest email oh it was when I was auditioning because she was like if you have any questions yeah and I was like well you just got hired to SNL I like don't really want to bother you and she's like no seriously like you know i want you to like feel comfortable because it's like all the parts that she wrote for herself and i have to do it and i can't like no one can be her so you have to find a way to like make it your own while still honoring

the work right and she like i had a couple questions and she sent me back like the nicest most thorough email walking me through every scene was like so sweet and i was like this woman i don't know just got hired to this iconic show dream job and she's sitting here writing me an email so i can audition to be her understudy she's the best god she's so sweet and her parts were like so fun to do because she's like brilliant wow and you did become the understudy and you didn't you replace her i replaced her and then i got to do the like the next um two shows where i got to like write my own stuff then yeah amazing no but it was like awesome because that was the first job also that like took me away from a nine to five because up until then i was like

working as an editor so i was like okay i'll just like do comedy for fun but i have to make money yeah yeah um and then second city offered me a full-time job and my dad was like you're living the life of a gypsy you can't do this i was like i gotta go bye i forget that it's like that like it's so different than ucb which is yeah, there was absolutely no money. Yeah. There was only paying them, but it's, it's sort of like more review style.

What's the experience of being in the company? They're like, you know, second city is an interesting place for me. I can only speak to me personally. And please do. Yeah. Cause it's like,

obviously as everyone's heard, like a lot of comedy institutions, extremely problematic. Yeah. But I still really value my time there because it actually gave me the confidence and affirmation that I could, like, perform for a living. Whereas I didn't know I could before that. But, like, being part of an ensemble there, there's only six of you. And when you're, like, writing your show together.

And I think the best thing that came out of it was like made me not precious with any of my work because it's like i would write a sketch and sometimes you just write an idea and you improvise it and i was like this is brilliant this is the funniest thing we're gonna have to replace the chairs everyone's gonna pee their pants this is so good it's gonna get me in the hall of fame a second city that doesn't exist and then i would go on this like on stage and it would be fucking crickets groans and then that sketch would never see the light of day so you had to just like move on really quickly so like i feel like it makes me now when i like write or like improvise something and someone doesn't like it or i audition i don't get it i'm like yeah that's

fine right totally yeah but i was thinking about you talking about working the stay job like being an editor like that's another part of the scam though for us like for i think for all three of us i know like everyone has to do it like you have to eat somehow but like i think for us to like do what we do now and like while like nurturing this like side hustle while also having to like balance like this thing that like paid your bills like i don't know like i feel like it's a scam but it's also like it's it takes a lot of like mental work to do i mean that i haven't thought about that in a long time no it because because you haven't had to but that that was where I think I can speak for myself. Like 100% of my energy went to trying to maintain like anything having to do on a day-to-day basis with my aspirations and my dream career while also needing to work in a restaurant all the time and i honestly think what keeps me going and what keeps

me like honestly like really always wanting the next job is because i refuse to go back to working in a high volume seafood restaurant right and i do i do have fears that i will like i will i will still have like stress dreams we'll call them nightmares actually i'm gonna call it a nightmare that like i forgot table two's diet coke you know what i mean like it's really it's like and and the refusal to go back to that life is something that i don't know i think when when you are a person that's like needs to work and doesn't have the privilege of having like the money that's always there so you can 100 of the time be pursuing you know be pursuing your career and what you want. Like, that separates people.

And Sudi is the same way. Like, and you actually, Poonam, like, was part of Sudi's JFL, New Faces. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's another connection we have. Six years ago, we met. Wow. She's so funny.

She's the best. Yeah, and so basically, like, I think that's something funny. She's, she's the best. Yeah. And so basically like, I think that's something we all share is like the, the need to hustle and also like have that survival job was. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know. Like there's something it's, it's, it's weird. I don't know. I, I promise this is not like a stoner thought. I'm not stoned. I'm totally sober, but I'm like, it is weird i don't know i i promise this is not like a stoner thought i'm not stoned

i'm totally sober but i'm like it is weird how this is like a universal like journey into comedy acting which is you like go through this whole pipeline i don't know yeah yeah and it's kind of just like a it's a risk you take like a huge risk to go act like a fucking idiot for free like to go play pretend with other adults and then like yeah i found a picture so i moved to la to do the l uh the cbs diversity showcase yes no big deal um where you're like in a basement honey remember what year you did it 2015 okay great was that the year we were supposed to do it? No. You and I were supposed to do it in 2017 or 2018.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were going to do it a couple years later. Oh my gosh. Well, I found a picture of me the other day. And it was like a sketch someone had written about Scooby-Doo. And I was dressed like Velma. But it was like makeshift costume so it was like

brown tablecloth tied around me as a skirt and orange ill-fitting sweater and like literally like like a wig that looked like a toupee and then glasses and I'm just standing there and I'm standing next to do you know Cola Scola?

Yes of course. Brilliant brilliant one of the greatest comedic brilliant minds of our time yes yes he's standing next to me dressed like scooby and i was just like looking at that picture and i had made a gif at the time that said that moment where you ask yourself what the hell are you doing it happened in that moment on stage and i was like i feel like especially as comedians we have that all the time because we're like when we're starting we're like in a basement yeah with filled with asbestos they're serving blue pictures of blue drink there's a pizza on the stage there's a dog roaming around you're like

you're doing a problematic accent and you're just like what are we doing yeah and like also the the funny thing is like speaking of the smells of those places i will never forget bone do you remember finding out remember that smell in the pit underground that pit underground had where by the way one time bowen and i did a show for one person one person it was matt and bowen we were doing slug luck we had a slutty lip sync dance duo named slug and one person came and it was our friend amanda and um i remember finding But that smell was dead rat. What? Yes. That smell was dead decomposing rat. And it was a bartender at the time that I was like sort of flirting with there that told me that. And he was like, you know what that smell is?

It's dead rat. It's rodent. That's what that is. And I always just thought it was like, it must be like a cleaner they used or something. But do you remember that distinct smell? I remember that smell. I remember that smell. You'll never forget the smells of these places. Wait, but how did the rat pass?

No, no, no, not rat, rats. So was there like rat poison and then they would eat it and they were just, the carcasses were just left there? They were like behind this, they were like somewhere in the walls or something. Because you know, there's like thousands of rats everywhere you go in New York City, you just don't see them. There were like behind this, they were like somewhere in the walls or something. Because you know there's like thousands of rats everywhere you go in New York City

you just don't see them. There's like millions of rats everywhere. How do you get them out? You gotta break into the wall. You have to break into the wall. Absolutely. Break the fourth wall.

Anyway, this is all to say that like, what a beautiful journey to have all of us do this, but then for you guys specifically to end up on the show with Sudi, and then with Vanessa and Molly,

and Jeremy, and all the people who worked on the show. I'm watching the show, and I go, this is a perfect show. It feels like it's made for me, in a way, where I'm like, it's all these people who I love all working on the same project. Oh, it's just so good. I did get to watch the first episode with Bowen

when they put it on Showtime, and Bowen said, this is exactly the kind of show I want to watch. And I was like, oh, it's just so good. I did get to watch the first episode with Bowen when they put it on Showtime and Bowen said, this is exactly the kind of show I want to watch. And I was like, oh, I hope more people that have great taste say that. I genuinely, I don't know. I would imagine that you've, well, I know you have.

You've booked and been around. So you know it feels like a special show. No, it is. There's not a dud in the group the writing is like insanely good we were cackling out loud i couldn't even memorize my lines because i was like saying them out loud to myself and i couldn't get through that but it's so good it's such an all like literally it's stars on stars yeah yeah and even my mom likes it and she doesn't like anything it's's a show for moms. It's definitely the only criticism she had was like,

I didn't like that sweater you wore or whatever. She always has like opinions about the wardrobe. And like literally once she hated my wardrobe on a show so much, but she was like, so do they force you to wear those clothes? And I was like, like against my will. And she's like,

yeah, like in her mind, like there's no way I would have chosen to wear that outfit and i was like like against my will and she's like yeah like in her mind like there's no way i would have chosen to wear that outfit it was so bad it's one of those things where you can't really explain to a parent like what goes into like this is not it's not up to you so in a way she's right like you you are being forced but also it's like that's what you took away yeah i know it's funny it is the sweater yeah, I know. It's funny. It is parenting. The sweater? Yeah. But, you know, moms are just critical. Yeah.

You know, it's, there's, Darcy wears a suit in the first episode, which is so tight that my, I mean, we can just say my dick is out. You can really see my dick. But the body looked right. Thank you, sweetheart. But, like, my penis was fully out, and I could feel my mom like sort of floating around. And she was like, yeah, that suit. I thought you wore it well. It's like, what do you do when you're a mom and your son's penis is out?

You know what I mean? That's a big question I have. What do you do when you're a mom and your son's penis is out? Like I did these photos for Gay Letter and Thongs that Cole and Joel also did. And it was like the one picture that my mom and dad did not like. And I know they saw it. But what do you do when your son's ass is out

and his dick is on TV? You know? You can't. And this is what we have to ask ourselves when we end up wanting kids. Yes. You have to think ahead and think, how am I going to be when I see their dick out?

Because at a certain age, it transitions from, that's my child's dick, to no, that's their dick. That's their dick. That's not my butt I'm responsible for, that's their butt now. I can only touch their butt and dick for so long to tuck it back in, and then at a certain age, I can't touch them anymore. They have to deal with that on their own. I'll never forget that.

One time my dad came in, I was like 14 or 15 years old. And I was like, for some reason I was taking a shower in his bathroom. And I know for a fact, he came in on purpose to see what, if I had pubes. And I think that was the first time he ever saw me with pubes.

And he, I saw him like smirk, like, yeah, my kid has pubes now. You know what I mean? Like, but of course when I was a little kid he ever saw me with pubes and he i saw him like smirk like yeah my kid has pubes now you know what i mean like but of course when i was a little kid they saw me naked all the time running around and then i guess around like five six you know that starts to be like you know you i don't want my parents seeing me naked but this was a thing all the time and then i sort of went away to the wilderness to go you know the wilderness like being my bedroom

and shutting the door and like having a puberty moment and then they see you and all of a sudden your kid's like a little man also i like how your dad thought it would be less awkward to walk in on you naked than to just ask like hey uh it's been a while since i seen you naked i'm wondering what the pube situation is now i know you probably got it uh show me he's like nah i'll just go see for myself like i wonder what that was yeah he should have just asked you but i guess it's also weird to ask you are you growing hair down there yet yeah i think i think i listen if they have any questions about my penis now they can just watch episode one of i love that for you and it's like pretty it's like pretty it's pretty graphically pretty craftily out there. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back.

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You're a smart girl. I think it was like the culture, it was like Indian haggling culture. Uh-huh. Oh, my God. We can talk about this. Yes. It is like haggling and deals and stuff like that is like a very big part of being Indian.

Yeah. And I think it used to kind of embarrass me because it's not just about being cheap because indians are going to like bindi jewelers jewelry store and buying like thousands of dollars of gold yeah and they have a little shitty calculator held together by tape and they're like calculating the price per thing and then my mom's grabbing the calculator and she's like what about this per ounce of gold so they're like buying expensive things but they're still haggling and then they're also haggling you know with the guy selling a cucumber at the market um but i think it like really enforced this idea of like you're not gonna get the best oh yeah interesting i love that yeah and not in a paranoid way but in a way that is empowering because even now like especially as you know like in this industry like when we first

start as any marginalized group we're just like so fucking excited someone let us in whether we have to crawl in through the window or up through the toilet we got here and we're just like so happy we're here and we're just like so happy we're here. And we're like, they'll kick us out if we say anything. And I feel like the Indian haggling culture that has been ingrained into my DNA didn't allow me, though, even from beginning to just accept everything and be in this place of like toxic gratitude. Because I'm very grateful, but I feel like it's now allowed me to be like no I know we can do better yeah you're right that it is when you struggle to get your foot in the door because not only is it hard period but also when you are the type of person that only gets offered a certain thing and you feel like you're in competition with people like you um it's it is like once when

they decide to hand you an opportunity i remember like when they first told me i got offered a job one time and the pay was insanely low and i was so excited about it i was like they want to pay me five thousand dollars an episode oh my gosh that's like that's like twenty thousand dollars for four episodes and then you hear like no that's a joke like you could you you can't say yes to that but it was more money than i had ever thought about it's all relative and and also you're just like well don't piss them off don't go back and say that's not acceptable because then you know i don't want them to be mad at me. Yeah.

Well, they'll take it away. They'll take it away and give it to someone else. So you feel like you bypassed that, like that moment of like, oh, I don't know. Like this is I don't want to like rock the boat too much. You think like with haggling, like you got to skip that maybe? Yes. I mean, I feel like I'll still if I care about something, I'll still do it even for free because i like want to do it and i feel privileged enough that i can be in that position yeah but yeah and also it's like i'm very aware that when you have an agent or a manager

you have to give them 10 so i'm like if i don't need you i'm give them 10%. So I'm like, if I don't need you, I'm not paying 10%. And keep a deep smile and tell people like, you have to have a lawyer, you have to do this. So I'm like, okay, fine. But also I'm like,

well, they can ask, what's the harm in asking? We're supposed to work, someone says no. But like, I always have to at least try. It's like this weird thing i mean like today so i'm in toronto right now and we're in this like little corporate apartment but it has

like a little bit of corporate apartment smell and so i was like you know what i need like a diffuser or something nice so i was like you know what i'm gonna treat myself and i went to like west elm today like a little rich white lady and the diffusers were like 79 for one diffuser and i was like like the immigrant in me and like the cheap indian in me was like that's ridiculous i mean i was like but i really like the smell and i want to live in a place that smells good and i want to you can afford it and also i can afford it i I'm doing, I'm filming a movie. Like, but like, even when I was up there, I was like, can I pretend I'm a student?

Can I go online and sign up for an email? And then I bought it and it ended up being like $81 Canadian. And I was like, really? And then I came home and then I transferred it to like USD and it's like 63. And I was like, God, I think I got a deal just by like

translating the currency but like that was like but i still got a deal because i bought a canadian but it was only 63 and i thought it was 81 wow i mean that's the journey i'm on that's no i honestly really admire that because i feel like i went the other way. Like, okay. So like my parents growing up, like did that thing where at like, let's say we were at Macy's or something. And like, I wanted to like to buy like a pair of shoes.

They would like barter with the, the, the salesperson. Did they do that? Did your parents do this? Yes. And I've done it for friends. Oh,

God bless you. That has little coupons in it. did they do that did your parents do this yes and i've done it for friends oh there's always a drawer that has little coupons in it i don't do it as much anymore because i'm trying to value my energy yeah and and also i'm like it's a show of self-worth if i can treat myself to nice things right um so that's something i've learned like buy less stuff but not nice stuff but nice stuff but no growing up we were always like i think there's a little thread coming out here. Can we get 10% off? Yes. Yes.

And guess what? Macy's is going to be just fine. I'm not doing it when I travel to Columbia with a street vendor who's like selling a wooden whistle or something. Yes. But Macy's is going to be just fine. West Elm is going to be just fine. Okay.

Totally. I was still mortified. I was still like, so like still like so like just so like not like there was some shame with that i was like oh i don't like like i don't like this and like when i grow up i'm gonna make enough money to not have to do this ever so i think i internalized that and now i like spend too much money on shit that i have no business buying the one has always been like that i've always been shocked by the amount of money he's willing to pay. Like,

I'll never forget. I'll never forget the sweatshirt in college. The sweatshirt. There was an iconic, famous sweatshirt that I can't believe he didn't keep

and put in a museum. Because we were like, when I tell you, we were broke. We were truly broke after college to the point where like, like,

whenever we'd go like, on the, on like, trips together for sketch comedy, like, like whenever we'd go like on the, on like trips together for, for sketch comedy, like some of us wouldn't even go to lunch because we couldn't afford it. Cause the trip had cost a couple hundred bucks or whatever, but I remember one time Bowen got a Maison Kitsune sweatshirt. That was just a gray crew neck sweatshirt.

And it said, it said Maison Kits it said no real reason it cost more than uh 70 truly and i was at the point where i was like well an expensive sweatshirt is of course 45 bucks you know what i mean that was me at the time and i was like how much was that and he's like i don't want to tell you i was like okay thinking well that must mean it must have been 80 or something and he's like i don't want to tell you i was like okay thinking well that must mean it must have been 80 or something and he goes he goes i'll let you guess and i was like was it 80 and he was like it's more and i was like oh my god and then i went up i was like was it 250 dollars like thinking that was a the wildest joke i could ever say yeah and he was like it was more

than that and it was 330 it was a 330 sweats. And it was $330. It was a $330 sweatshirt. Cotton. Nothing special about it. It's very stupid, but that's like... But you're worth it. No, I'm not. At the time, we were not worth that. I couldn't wrap my head around it.

And I couldn't let it go at the time. Because we were fully self-producing sketch comedy videos for like $300. And I was like because we were making we were fully self-producing sketch comedy videos for like $300 and I was like we could have done a pop roulette video with that

I know I really could have put that money towards a video I like I've never been a good spender of money I really haven't

and I still don't think I am I love it about you now I love it I love it I feel like we both could like meet each other more towards each other.

Maybe. Totally. Because I'm trying to be more like you. And I feel like in this past year, I've really been good about it. Good. As you can tell by my diffuser. You're 63 American dollars diffuser. Yeah.

But you know, it's only with products. With food, it's like money doesn't exist it doesn't matter i'm paying for everyone bottle for the table tasting menu that's an experience or an experience yeah travel and food i'm like i will bleed myself dry for it uh-huh but you know now i really wish you had joined us um for a couple nights in Mexico City. I know. Wait, that one, Beau, and that one place we went, what was that? It was like the courses? It was called like Olea or something.

And it was a 10-course meal. It was amazing. I loved it. And that was the night we were supposed to meet up with you, I think. It was. We were like having the time of our life, like drinking, Miss Cal, being like, we're going to meet up with. What? Yeah. I'll tell you what. we were like having the time of our life, like drinking, Ms. Cal being like, we're going to meet up with what? I'll tell you what.

No, it's just, I think it's because I had like lost my voice at that point. And so I was like, Oh my gosh, I might have COVID like even more than getting it. I have a fear of like giving it to someone and ruining their life. And we were filming. And so I was like,

and that's not to be quite honest, Matt, I was concerned about you, but Bowen, I was like, I can't have that be Bowen's first impression of me. No. Is that I got him set.

I would have loved it. I had just gotten it. So I was like, come. I know. But you know what? We just have to go back now because I want to go to Peugeot. Wait, what's Peugeot? It's like the most famous restaurant in Mexico City.

Oh. So I went to like the more casual place, which was amazing. But it's like this stunning it's Olvera hold on let me look it up. And what was the other place we went to?

Contramar? Oh that place is so good. Yes. Contramar is the place that like everybody goes to and it's like so lovely. Yes. Enrique Olvera.

Enrique Olvera. He's like an amazing chef and he owns Peugeot or maybe it's Puyol. Puyol. Did you go to that cenote slash cave restaurant

by Teotihuacan? No. So this was my second time in Mexico City. The first time we did do the pyramids as well. And I almost went to that place. But then it started raining. It's awful. It was terrible. The driver said the food was bad. Honestly, so did our driver.

He was like, you'll love the experience. But we went down there and Bowen, this was, have we had this on the pod? This guy, literally, this waiter walks over

and he's like so confident. He was like, all right, it's so good that you guys are here. You have to get this drink. This is the finest drink on the menu. This will be the drink

you remember from this trip. And you're like, absolutely! Let's get it! We're so excited. We're like, woo! And he brings over what was essentially mud in a cup. It was like... What was it? It was like a weird, like, not even horchata, trying to be

no alcohol in it. And then I literally wanted to order, like... This is so funny funny this is so good a chicken or something and then this waiter goes this waiter goes to me no no you're not getting that it gets get this instead i was like oh he didn't even ask about telling no, you're not getting that. It was Bowen came in hard with the decision. He was like, I would like this. No. No.

You're not going to get that. I actually love that. I respect that, especially when you're in another country and they kind of put you in your place. Or when I can tell I'm being like hustled in another country, I'm like, you know what? I'll let it pass because this is your place and I'm on your turf. Yes.

I mean, I think it was a little bit of that because we fully laid down on the tracks and let them run over us with bad food and drink. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I think it was a little bit of that because we fully laid down on the tracks and let them run over us with bad food and drink. It was, everything was so bad, but the experience was cute. It was a gorgeous cave. Beautiful cave.

Beautiful cave. And the, the food and drink was beautiful gowns. Gorgeous gowns. Gorgeous gowns. But like hagglingling like what was like is there like a moment besides like the gold in the calculator that you remember where like there are moments where i remember my parents like like with shoes being like no we're gonna

scream at this lady at macy's to like to pay like 30 percent less and like this one being like we we can't we can't do that i'm so sorry and me being so embarrassed mortified oh for sure i mean it was always peak in india but now when you go shop in india they literally have signs in the clothing stores that are like set prices fixed prices and it's all barcode right but like back then they were writing it by paper and it's like full screaming matches a lot of the clothing stores also you take your shoes off and you're like sitting on this big padded thing and they're like just throwing around saris and stuff and it's like you make a big pile of cloth that you're gonna buy and then you're like they're writing numbers and we're like no this

and then literally it gets to the point where my mom will just like for example if they're like no pay us 1500 and my mom's like i'm only doing 12 for a matter of 300 rupees which is like you know like four dollars yeah that's not the right conversion but you know what i mean like at the end it's like what am i arguing about but like she'll just take out 1200 and then she'll just like put it out and start walking out and start gathering her stuff. And they'd be like, no, no, no, I really can't. And she's like, take it, put it in their hand. And I was like, I love it.

It's a boss move. That's so cool. It really is. And also it's about the principle. It is. And it's also about proving to yourself that you can win in interaction. Yes. It's about winning.

Yeah. No, but now I feel like in her older age she's very much about like living a more like stress-free life and so she's like i'm not doing that because she's put in the work she's put in the hours there you go now she has to enjoy yeah you gotta enjoy it is interesting when you see your parents turn a corner on their personality you know what i mean it's like my dad was always very impatient and like he sort of i think he had a temper and now not in a bad way but he was just very quick to be like what are you talking about now like yeah like now i see him more chilled out um but it was such a thing about his personality his whole life and it was so funny because his favorite singer is jimmy

buffett who's like you can tell it's just my dad i don't know if he's conscious of it but like of course his favorite singer would be like the personification of vacation you know what i mean like literally because he needed that to like chill um but nowadays it's it is funny because like so you're saying your mom is now no longer like this i think for them it's not like they had some like spiritual awakening i think they just got like tired yeah they're tired and they're like i and they're like start to and they're like yeah like i think they're just tired yeah i was gonna ask you whereabouts in florida are you from vero beach it's like this little town about like two and a half three hours north of miami on the east coast it's like half trash whites half rich trash whites

and then like now there's more indian families when my parents moved there there was like five indian families and then it's a large citrus producing county So there's like a large migrant worker population as well. It's an interesting place. It's like kind of feels like one of those places that's been forgotten about when you go there. Because it's like, I think like over pandemic, my mom's like big news was like the Pizza Hut closed. Like they don't even have a Pizza Hut anymore. So they have to order from Domino's. Well, I mean, let's have that conversation. Domino's is better. No, actually, I'm going to say Pizza Hut anymore. So they have to order from Domino's. Oh. Well, I mean, let's have that conversation. Domino's is better.

No, actually, I'm going to say Pizza Hut is better. Are you kidding me? Yeah. That feels like a betrayal. Pizza Hut personal pan. You guys, personal pan. And also, like, growing up, did you not hit up the buffet at lunchtime? The best ranch I've ever had in my life to this day, Pizza Hut buffet.

Pizza Hut buffet was like a savior. It was a lifeline to immigrant diaspora populations. And the orange soda there, best orange soda I've ever had in my life. I don't know what the extra fizz. Bring back orange soda to be honest. Yeah, I would love that. Why did that

go away? Honestly, you are so right. By the way, Hans is saying can confirm pizza. I really thought I was in a Domino's house. Why did that go away? You are so right. By the way, Hans is saying... Can confirm Pizza Hut. Can confirm Pizza Hut. Okay. I really thought I was in a Domino's house. I'm not shit-talking Pizza Hut. I'm not going to put Pizza Hut down because I'm a Domino's girl. You know what I mean?

That's not the type of person I am or ever want to be. But I will say that... We admire that. That there are things about Domino's that people don't even talk about, which are superior. The cheesy bread. The wings, honey. They have some of the best wings.

And it's happening at Domino's and it's happening tonight. Actually. It is. Hold on. Around the country. Matt, I have to remind Matt. One time we were shooting a pop roulette sketch. We were shooting a sketch in my apartment.

And there was like, you know, a crew of like four people and I wanted to order like four Domino's pizzas to feed everybody. This was, Matt, this was Facebook crazy. Facebook crazy. Do you remember this night? Yes, I remember this night, but I don't remember this.

I want to say I ordered the Domino's pizzas. It was like 5 p.m. Or no, no, it was like 7 p.m. I was like, hey, max amount of time on a lot is like an hour for those pizzas to get here. Oh, now I remember this. Oh, this was iconic. It was like four blocks away.

Yeah. And then basically, it's not that interesting of a story, but basically it was delayed for three and a half hours. It was shocking. I've never. They didn't. They did not comp it. That's why you needed me there.

That's part of how you always get a comp. I just disputed a charge, but I just didn't recognize. And then after they comped it, I was like, oh, my God, it's because I bought my cousin's book and it was the press that sold her book. But you took the comp.

I took the comp. That's because you had won. How do you do it? I'm not brave enough to ever dispute. Always dispute. I will dispute for you. If you ever have a dispute, I will take the time and do it for you. Can we just role play right now?

I'm so nice about it. Oh, really? That's how you do it. I always feel like just role play right now? I'm so nice about it. Oh, really? That's how you do it. I always feel like I always kind of tip the aggression too much and then they go, no. No. See, you have to just be confident,

but nice. So I'll be like, hey, so I was looking through my statement and I noticed this charge from Austin PS State University. And, you know, I live in LA. I haven't been to Austin in years and I didn't even know that was a university.

So I, I check all my statements. I've gone through all my purchases. I keep all my receipts lie. And I literally cannot find this transaction. And so I'm just concerned that maybe my information was leaked somehow and I just want to prevent further charges. So could you,

you know, put an alert on that and maybe and comp that and just send them a card and they're like oh yeah sure sure and then after and then my cousin's book came in the mail and i opened it up and when the press said with austin p.s state wow small independent press oh no seventeen dollars i scammed them out of i feel very bad that's the one thing i do feel bad about that no this is a public apology this is a this is an apology yes okay but see but you do have to go through the trouble of getting a new card then right well for that but other times

well yeah because then they'll put a fraud alert right but i ain't going nowhere. I have multiple credit cards. Well, no, of course, same. But what I love is Autofill, my browser knowing my cards. It is one of the greatest inventions. It's one of the greatest inventions. It's one of the most dangerous inventions as well. It is. It's a double-edged sword.

It's actually why they came up with that expression, double-edged sword. That's why they say it's double-edged sword. Yeah, yeah, both edges. It is. It's a double-edged sword. It's actually why they came up with that expression, double-edged sword. That's why they say it's double-edged sword. Yeah, yeah. Both edges. Dangerous. But, you know, I'm not doing it. Now, I don't want to give the impression that I'm doing it on charges that I outright know that I charged. No, of course.

Of course. But I will get a comp, like, if I order something, delivery. But I will also always be sure to make it, blame it on the company and not the driver because i'm also not trying to get anyone fired so i said the driver was great he was really communicative the app told me this and the app misquoted me and so and i i pulled this a lot be like and i ordered food for a party and my guests were hungry yeah that. Because I always order enough food for a party. That is a huge, huge, huge sort of like, that language is very powerful. My guests were hungry.

And my guests were left hungry and it was so embarrassing and I had to spend extra money to then go out and get more food because your app misquoted me and it is an error on Uber. And then I explicitly say, I want to reiterate that the driver was amazing. He was great. He had no part in this error. Right.

And I wonder if you ever tell them, you know, if I'm just, you know, going back in time, the sketch comedy crew that was at my apartment was hungry. And yes, I was there shooting, producing sketch comedy with my best friend, Matt. Yeah. And we were tired while we acted. Yes.

The camera picks up on everything, especially our very subtle, gorgeous acting in the sketch Facebook crazy, which I believe is still up. It's still up online. I think it's. Oh, my God. I got to Google someone. Someone. OK, now this might be my i don't think so honey but like shit if you have to if you watch your old acting when you were like no

one's gonna see this but when someone stumbles upon i'm like oh god no especially when you become bowen yang no no noted legend of sketch comedy yeah and then they go back and find your old sketches and you're like oh yeah back here when I wasn't good. But I say leave it up. Sooty and I wrote that one. Show your human. Show your human. Show your human. No, no, no.

Matt and Sooty wrote, Matt and Sooty, two people involved and I love that for you, wrote this sketch, Facebook Crazy. Wow. And it starred Bowen Yang and myself. And it was about, get this, this was cutting edge at the time, people on Facebook who acted crazy.

But at the time it was like, it really was. It used to crush. It used to crush. It used to crush. It goes viral again because of this episode. I mean, the readers will definitely watch it.

The readers will watch it. But you, but you have to understand this was a different time. This was like 2014. Yeah. Ish. When like being, being like unhinged on Facebook or on social media was a very specific thing,

like in your community. And it was not this like societal problem, which it has obviously now become. Anyway. Did you ever get buck wild on Facebook, P? You know what? Not as much on Facebook. Because I think by the time I hit social media, I was like, oh, the Internet's not a safe space. But where I was unhinged,

where I think it stemmed from, aim away messages. Okay, talk about what a typical punam away message was like. I'm talking dashboard confessional lyrics. Oh, come on. Of course. Ghost of a good thing.

Emotional lyrics. Ghost of a good thing. Ghost of a good thing. I'm chasing the ghost of a good thing. I a good thing I'm chasing the ghost of a good thing I was single I wasn't dating anybody no one had broken up with me or broken my heart because no one had dated me

oh my god very emotional very long aim away messages just so people could be like hey what's wrong are you okay I don't want to talk about it

I used to put I used to put dashboard confessional lyrics in my, in my profile and only messages too. And it would literally be like, and you kissed me like you meant it, but like vertical, like,

and you kissed me like you meant it. But, and also it was such a thing of trying to seem like you were in a romantic conflict or like a stressful group dynamic situation with your friends when everything was fine and like nothing was happening i am so dramatic you know that song brandy have you ever yeah have you ever loved somebody someone just makes you cry I used to listen to that song and cry because my answer was no

because I have never loved someone it was like in high school and I'd be like no I haven't loved someone I don't know what I love me I don't have a boyfriend that song is epic and Diane Warren wrote it really? yes no one knows that

someone did a sample on it recently like one of these new R&B girls Diane Warren wrote it. Really? Yes. No one knows that. Someone did a sample on it recently. Like one of these new R&B girls did a sample of Roxy. We just talked about Brandy. Actually, Bowen was on my HBO Max movie podcast, and we talked about how Brandy played Roxy Hart on Broadway in Chicago. And she was iconic. Like a few years ago. Three or four years ago.

Three, four, five. Yeah. Within the last decade um but she she was iconic for adding riffs to the score to that candor and have score like the name on everybody's lips like giving her like iconic brandy vocals and have you ever rugrats soundtrack that woman can't be stopped have you ever is one of the hardest songs to sing it's so hard yeah because there's like there's an epic key change when she goes and she just makes it sound so effortless because she's so crying yeah the cry the wailing and pain in her voice it's true and i had one of those boom boxes that had a little remote control with it

but my boom box was right next to my bed but i'd like lay in bed with the remote control just so i could be like repeat yeah what yeah remember back in the day too when you there was no spotify there and you had to either buy the album or what i would do and maybe you guys identify with this was whenever my parents and i would like go out for dinner or whatever i would put a cassette in my radio and put on fm radio and just hit record record and then when i got home i would listen to the whole thing to see if i had happened to catch speaking of brandy the boy is mine you know what i mean like stone age wow i remember the boy is mine i which was just was very high placed on the Great Global Songbook. Thank you very much.

I was chasing that song as a little fag all over town. I needed it. And I eventually did get it on a cassette and I would just rewind that shit. Oh, cassette culture. Cassette culture. Well, I mean, the music music video very historic moment for feminism absolutely where it opens and then she's there then they've combined forces because they're like a man who's not going to turn us against each

other yeah we need to talk about this more we haven't talked about the music video enough we always talk about the music itself on the boys video the guy fifer right can i just quickly talk about though this teenage thing that for our generation was aim away messages being very dramatic pretending you were in love or pretending you were you knew anything about a relationship like this makes me think now about have you guys watched the girl the girl from plainville yet no but i watched the original documentary. Okay, okay, but great. But first episode, like at the end where she's like,

spoiler alert, where she like acts alongside Lea Michele and Glee, like pretending to cry, like, or not pretending to, but crying, saying the same lines as her. Like, that's a different, for like that generation, it's like, let me like, generation it's like let me like i need to like i don't have the vocabulary yet to really express this this this kind of feeling i have i don't i can't attach it to my own reality yet and so let me like i would do that with gray's anatomy

all the time now i don't know about you would uh well i i used to do to lost i would quote i would quote it to myself yeah i i would do it to lost. I would quote it to myself. Yeah. I would do it to Lost and honestly, oftentimes it was silent, the stuff that I was doing. So I'll never forget when Sun was leaving gym in season one, episode six of Lost

and she is in the airport and that iconic score is playing that. She knows the score the score was huge for me this was literally the moment when I decided I wanted to be in television I wanted to write television act on television was watching Yeonjin Kim walk away from Daniel

Dae Kim and then she turned over her shoulder and the score was playing and he lifted up the orchid and like it was the first nice thing he had done for her in like years of them being married and she decides to turn back around and get on the plane and then the plane crashes and they're marooned on the

island but I was like this wordless thing and I used to watch it again and again and I would be crying and crying and crying and it was a way to access emotion for me yes yes yes trigger yeah it was a trigger now you know what to watch you know sometimes still to this day one of the things i tried when i had to get emotional i love that for you was i was listening to the big fish soundtrack

because that movie that's a great john august listens to this podcast sometimes and he wrote the movie and i fucking love Big Fish. One of the most one of the most prized things in my life is knowing that he likes this podcast and he wrote that movie. I love that movie and at the end when he's telling the story to his father

about how they get him to the river and the music is playing, I sometimes will still trigger myself with that and it works most of the time oh my god and in the end when you're like he wasn't lying right he was just exaggerating yeah that was my first exposure to helena bottom carter i was like who the hell is this woman wow she was amazing in that and then tim burton you know used her a million times and yeah i don't know i love we love her i don't know why i mean look she can just she can come on my screen you know what i really liked about hbc

when i watched the harry potter um documentary that just came out on hbo she was so like flirty with daniel radcliffe and. Really? She basically was making jokes like, yeah, remember on this day on set? She basically was making crass sex jokes with Daniel Radcliffe. You can tell they have such a cheeky little relationship.

She's so much older than him, but you can tell they really get along like a house on fire. I was like, wow, she seems like a blast to me. Oh, yeah. She's like a house on fire. And I was like, wow, she seems like a blast to me. Oh, yeah. She's like a fun witch. Yeah, she's like a fun witch. It's Rula Culture number 11.

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Every week on Lost Culture East, as we do. I don't think so, honey. And this is a 60-second segment. It's a 60-60-second segment where we really get something in culture that we don't like very much. Yeah, absolutely. Matt, do you have something? Sure do. Okay. So Matt and I will go first, and then it'll be Poonam's turn.

This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey, and your time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey stamps and the need for them in the year of our lord 2020 i know two i have to say i have been so late rsvp-ing to my dear friend sam's wedding from high school because i don't have a stamp and i need to go get a stamp to mail the rsvp back and where do you even get them? Where do you get them? And I literally went to, I literally went out of my house and had to walk the streets and say, excuse me, hi, I went to

Gelson's and I said, do you guys have stamps? And they were like, yeah, and she had to think about it because they don't even know they have them. They had them, but then I thought I had to go to the quote-unquote post office for a stamp. I never even heard of this place before. Then I come to find out my good friend Sam, my dearest, had put a stamp on the envelope the whole time. So I should have just used my fucking eyes.

How about that for next time? But it was a wild goose chase for stamps. And I just feel like, how come we can do email, we have space satellites and we still need stamps. I don't think so honey. That's one minute. Wow. It feels like we can do incredible things in this world.

Medicine has come such a long way. I really think it has. There has been so many advancements in technology. The one thing we still need to do which doesn't make any sense it's giving pony express it's giving cassette tape recording fm radio thank you king very much agree and it stamps i would donate

a million dollars to the u.s postal service so that they could stay afloat and so that they can go no more stamps for you for the rest of the year i just feel like why can't we just i i i'm i'm really at a loss for words as you can tell put up if you could have those stamps off of the your mail would you absolutely and i've misstamped something before and cut it off and taped it onto another envelope because it's not even just that stamps are expensive it's the journey you have to go through to get them. Yes. And Doug just said in July, a stamp will be 60 cents. That can't be right.

No, I've heard it all. That can't be right. Doug, what are you talking about? Get in here. Is this inflation? In America? In America? No way.

Doug. Doug. I'll be sending a Marco Polo. Thank you. Where did you hear that? It's true. I read the article two days ago and I just looked it up again. 60 cents starting July.

What did it used to be? 25? I think it was 50, right? 50? Yeah. Oh my God. What does the article say about the reasoning for this? The bad economy?

The first class stamp covers the price of a one ounce letter. Doesn't say. Well, I guess I'm not buying a house this year well maybe well how about how about this don't buy any stamps send your diffuser yeah jesus your budget is all fucked up blew my stamp budget all right thanks doug thanks doug um well that it was that is talking and i i will say things things really are getting more expensive i went down the street the other day and gas was 7 15 oh my god i don't know how you guys do it over there in la do you drive you drive you know i do drive and i hate it and i then after i'm done driving in la i like think about my drive and i get like anxiety of like

oh my gosh that was dangerous i did that or i answered that text and i could have run myself off the road yeah yeah yeah that's that's i i have to like the other day i was like i had my phone in my hand and i was like oh i have to fucking put this down and it's not like nothing needs my attention as much as the road also yeah our commute to work was long as shit it was very bad yeah you guys were where's studio city culver's culver city oh yeah all right well stamps not a fan now bow and yang do you have an i don't think so honey that you'd like to do um i think so i I just got, I just got, I keep getting these notifications of like, hey, COVID was around you. Uh-oh. Okay.

You're like, well, it was in me already, so bye. It was in me. It fucked me. Alright, Boniang, this is your I Don't Think So Honey, and your time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey reminding me of a web series I was a part of. It doesn't matter what the web series was.

That was just a dark time in all of our lives, in the culture. It was a dark time in sort of content production. This was when we were all being lied to and told that engagement on Facebook was really, really amazing when no one was watching them. And so what was it all for anyway?

Maybe I learned a thing or two about being on camera. I don't think I learned that much. And now there's this permanent sort of, you know, immortalization of like my bad acting. And I don't want people to necessarily make any judgments on that. And

gosh, I really hope that we all stop posting them at least or tagging me in stories so that I have to remember that I did a bad job or did a terrible line read in summer 2013. I don't think so, honey. Me not coming in as a fully formed actor from day one. And that's one minute. I'm going to say, I hear you, my sister.

Thank you, sister. And I'm going to do exactly what you said not to do and tell you that, you know what was actually funny? What? The web series that we did that Mike Spence did,

which was the couples therapy. Couples therapy. That was actually really funny. I don't know. Spencer, my partner in that was Spencer Novick. And he was funny, but I was not. And my partner was that was spencer novak and he was funny but i was not and my partner was one sudi green you first of all that's a lie you were so good no you and

sudi were maddie played a couple they were so they were so good sudi and i played a couple a couple that you that met because they were abercrombie models amazing and sudi had just sudi had decided to not be a model anymore and pivot to washing her body with charcoal and stuff. She became a vegan or something like that. And she was so funny in it. But we were so dumb. But that was actually funny. And sorry, but I hear you, my sister, I repeat.

But I had to bring that one up. I cringe. I cringe. It's humbling. It's very humbling. Were you a part of web series culture oh yeah yeah for sure and you know what really always annoyed me is when people that were my peers were like starting kickstarters for their web series and i'm like yeah so you think i'm gonna give you five dollars when i'm also trying to make one and like oh this is like really cringe ick thing that people

would do there was this these three white straight white guys that tried to do this web series and I remember what like you know because it was like if you donate this much you'll get this if you don't yeah it was like if you donate this much we'll come watch your improv show and give you notes and I was like oh my

god oh my god it's like every bad thing from that time wrapped up into one what it was like if if you do this you can be a featured extra i was like in your web series oh gosh featured extra what does that even mean i still don't know it's so bad the one that gets me the most is when it's it was it would be like and if you donate this much you can be an executive producer and it's like what the fuck does that even mean it's like it means I get like a title card in your web series viewed

by 60 people well I guess we were all trying our best we were all trying our best and also the part that scares me about my old work because like we used to like record our improv shows and sometimes put them on YouTube is that like,

when I first started comedy, I thought like accent equals comedy. Oh, I mean, I think we all, we all, we all would be shocked and jarred if we were to go back in time and listen to the accents that we all have for sure. And also I think I was on a team with a bunch of like,

again, straight white men who just came out there and talked. So I felt like I needed to do so much. So I would literally come out there as as a hunched over Jamaican man. And it's not a great look. Right. And so you're like, oh God, it's all contextualized by the circumstances. Whatever that means.

I'm speaking so generally and broadly. Anyway. I also think there was that there was that time in the beginning when we were all doing comedy where it's like we were talking about accent work for gay men that exclusively meant talking like a black woman which which which I don't even think we realized was something that that was insane to do until like we were until too recently and I think about how many times i went out there and did a quote unquote gay voice but if i really were to think about it it was actually like

you know talking like a black woman in a way that chills me to my core of course and there was no one there to say anything and i i didn't know any better yeah oh we really didn't know any better also my accents were bad. They weren't even good accents. They like melded five different cultures into one. We couldn't afford an accent coach. No, I did not have a dialect coach when I was at IO.

We couldn't afford lunch. Every comedy theater, if they return and choose to, should hire a dialect coach. Isn't it funny that they're gone? Most of them. It's sad. It's crazy.

All right. This is, do you have an I don't think so, honey? I do. Okay. This is Poonam Patel's I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now. I don't think so, honey.

High fives. Oh. And high fiving. Oh. The gerund even. Do not high five me. If you try to high five me, and high-fiving. Oh, the Jaron even. Do not high-five me. If you try to high-five me,

I'm going to hold both my hands together in a fist and one may land on your person. I hate high-fives. I've always hated high-fives even before we stopped touching hands during COVID. I don't understand why palm-to-palm impact is positive. Why is that? We're celebrating, like celebrating hitting each other it's violence also palms are gross they're like the bottom of your feet for

hands they're sweaty they're sticky they're like so too soft also it hurts and now i've like touched everything you touched they're just like meant for fingerprints yeah and like what are we why are we teaching kids and dogs to high five like what do we get out of it and also most importantly if your significant other ever tries to high five you report them to the police and that's one minute wow you're so right i don't know what what how did it happen yeah we gotta look into this it's bad who invented it who invented it dogs dogs don't know what it means

children dogs why I think it's cute when a dog puts its paw up to me but the dog doesn't know

what it's about if it's a shake that's okay okay because he's a gentleman it's formal but this as a dog

don't wear shoes do you like that's so true do you like handshakes don't love a handshake really don't love a fist bump and i don't like this elbow thing we're doing and that has really risen in prominence and it's wow let me turn the light on oh god no um and it's odd because like my number one love language is physical touch. But not that physical touch. No, it's like give it to me full or don't give it to me at all. You want chest on chest or nothing.

Give me a full hug from behind, like hip to hip, something. Grab my shoulders, something. But don't just like. Oh, no, no way. Don't jerk at me. And it's too bro. It's's yeah this is too like bro and also people don't like they especially when they're excited it hurts it hurts it stings after you're honestly that you're so right about that and i think that it's it's really become

i i don't know what it is when someone gives a really hard high five because if i'm gonna high five i at least want to feel like i did it successfully and that means you get a clean crisp you know what i mean and that's another thing about high five culture is if you miss it or the high five is bad it goes you know what i mean it's like it's terrible it's really terrible. It can only be... I've only done high fives as a bit in the last year, I gotta say. I really like it as a bit, though.

It's just a bit. Like, yeah. Like, yeah, brother. Like that kind of thing. Yeah, I love to high five a straight guy and go, all right, brother. There you go. Yo, brother, sick day today, brother. It's really good to see you today, brother.

Gross. Well, listen. I think this was a fabulous episode. This was amazing. I'm so happy we talked about haggling. It really unlocked something in me. I hope you don't still feel shame. Oh, no. Not at all.

Now I'm like, yes, whatever my parents want to do, my mom will still haggle at a garage sale, which is the place to do it. yes whatever my parents want to do yeah like my mom will still have a lot of garage sale which is the place to do it like that is the perfect place to do it she'll do that still and i'm like please god bless now i'm like whatever they want like let them be live your life they've been through too much also truly and i'm not just saying that as a bit like i know the anxiety that can come from like talking to customer service and like all that stuff. So I really will do it for you.

Oh my God. Like I've done it for friends before because they have such anxiety around it. Like I really will do it. Wow. Or like if we're at a restaurant. Thank you so much. You might just need to coach me through it. Yeah.

Because here's the thing. I know I'm nice about it and I don't make people feel bad when I do it. So that's why I don't mind doing it. Great. Great. And you have a very kind voice too. Very kind. Thank you. Kind but like clear and like

it's people understand what you're trying to say. They feel safe. I think I kind of like talk around stuff too much and people are like, what is he doing? But I feel like with you there's a safety and I really, really love that. I feel like every time you talk you sound really intelligent even if you're talking about something like dumb., there's a safety. And I really, really love that. I feel like every time you talk, you sound really intelligent, even if you're talking about something like dumb.

I don't think so. He has a vast vocabulary. We're not doing this. It's one of his gorgeous traits. We're not doing this. I keep thinking I need a light. I will also say, you know what's fun about, and we'll circle it back. And I love that for you.

We often do hear your voice sort of disembodied voice because because you're often speaking as the producer into the ears of joanna gold played by vanessa bayer and so often in fact i just saw one of the new episodes and it's this bit about like joanna is selling leatherette pants and you're like and you don't say leather say leatherette and she's on and Vanessa's on and she's like

and the thing about leather pants and you just go you just hear Poonam's voice go leatherette perfect it's bad

and guess what are the product names are like one of the best parts of the show oh so funny it's insane okay

what was the what was the the show so funny it's insane okay uh what what was the what was the uh the placemats janine by janine janine by janine placemats janine by janine by the time by the by the time i was saying that like on camera it had totally faded away from me as something funny and then when i watched the premiere like and i said and we're gonna start your monday 5 a.m with the janine by janny placemats and tablescapes and i was like that sentence is insane and people were laughing at it and i was like oh that's it's something i completely forgot yeah you're like backyard grill kings into booty blasters tandy fit booty blasters like what is that even i want to buy it i want to buy it price cutting resistance band.

They are price cutting the Playa del Fun Margarita Maker. And also the bar in episode three is called Donde Esta Cantina. Oh, I laughed at that.

At that establishing shot. Donde Esta Cantina. I go, and then they cut to like, like you guys walking in and it's just a neon sign that says Cerveza. And I'm like,

this is so funny. Fun fact about that, that is the bar from The L Word. Oh my gosh. And they art decorated it, or art directed it to be like a Mexican themed bar. But it's the bar from The L Word.

Okay, and that's Movie Magic. And if you want to see more of that and the magic that is Poonam's performance, you can stream. I love that for you on Fridays on the Showtime app or watch live Sundays at 8.30 only on Showtime. Oh my God. Thank you for knowing the info.

I know all the info. She knows the info. What a joy it is to have you and what a glorious light you are. This has been so, so fun. I've been looking forward to this for weeks. As have we. And we end every episode with a song. And the song is

Have you ever loved somebody so much it makes you cry? Have you ever needed something so bad you would get sleep at night? Have you ever needed something so bad you could get a sleep at night? Have you ever tried to find the words with the A-O?

Come on, all right. Have you ever? Have you ever? Wow. So listen to that. Listen to Never Say Never, the album by Randy. Bye. I'm NK, and this is Basket Case.

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