Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Haus of Cultch: More Categories"

Episode Date: August 11, 2021

Matt and Bowen, at their lowest, fat, nasty and broke, careers in shambles, come on this bitch mad as hell in an apartment with no A/C to complete what they set out to do: finally reveal all the categ...ories for the Las Culturistas Culture Awards (#LCCA). They also dicuss Natalie Wynn's Contrapoints and apollonion (Natalie/Squidward/Rosario Dawson) vs. dionysian (Mila/Spongebob/Daphne Rubin Vega) personality types, how YouTube landing pages reveal what's in your soul and drag you and your interests to absolute hell, Disney's Star Wars: Galactic Cruiser hotel (is immersion in theme parks going *too far*?), THEE Suicide Squad, how Crystal Kung Minkoff's husband Rob created iconic gay animated cultch, the silver and gold binary, Meghan's last days on The View and what it really means to name your daughter Liberty, the historic moment that was attending Gaga and Tony: One Last Time at Radio City Music Hall, reactions to the already iconic Haus of Gucci trailer, and revelations about Matt and Bowen and their nasty, broke, career in shambles lives. Publicists? Get to work. The #LCCA could happen anytime... and the nominees will be announced... soon... Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:19 Oh, and look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Same room vibes. Same room vibes. Although, what's different this time? There's something, there's a different flavor. Well, we're in a damn apartment with no AC. Huh. Yeah. This actually is similar to last time, though.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Because we recorded it in the Fire Island house that didn't have AC at that time. This house, my apartment that I'm in that house in fire island neither of those places are in the running for most iconic building or structure because the things inside don't fucking work well they are in the running for biggest flop biggest flop because it's just gesture flop can we say right here huh i said whatever it is we can well let's make the distinction between jester and a flop because people are kind of there's category fraud happening where people are you know campaigning by the way we should say that the campaigning
Starting point is 00:03:12 that's going on from the publicists now is really beautiful there's politics at play and we love that you know what I mean I mean a lot of people really pushing for Rihanna to be best billionaire ever since she achieved billionaire status according to Forbes and snaps her. I just think like we don't, we're not going to go with the obvious. There's going to be some upsets in this race. Like we,
Starting point is 00:03:34 as the people who are giving out these awards, we may give it to Rihanna. We may not because it feels like maybe that's too obvious. Well, can I say it feels like what everyone's doing is they're saying, I mean, obviously now we have the best billionaire. And that actually is something you never say. You never say. Don't ever tell us. It's actually a rule of culture. Don't ever say. Don't ever tell us that. Obviously. Obviously.
Starting point is 00:03:55 It's rule of culture number 16. Don't ever say obviously. Don't ever tell us that. That is so rude because, first of all, you don't make the you know what? Here's the deal. This is not what a publicist does. No. A publicist comes in and has a reason for why that they feel their client
Starting point is 00:04:11 should earn the status. And if you come in here and say, obviously, it's like, I'm sorry, why is it obvious? Why exactly is it obvious? Because Rihanna has had many hits because she's iconic. Sure. Doesn't mean she's the best billionaire. Make a case. Make a case. She's barely even done anything with her billionaire status yet. No one
Starting point is 00:04:27 up for any of these categories is implicitly the obvious winner. There are no frontrunners. I can't think of a single frontrunner in any category. Can you? No, I can't think of a single frontrunner for any category, although I do think that there was an incredible... I saw someone
Starting point is 00:04:44 say Aquamarine was the most colorful color. Aquamarine's getting a lot of buzz. Aquamarine is getting a lot of buzz. I don't know. I can't say that it's the front runner, but I definitely like, see, this is the thing. It's like a lot of the publicists
Starting point is 00:04:54 have been doing a really good job. Because they come with receipts. That's what we're saying. Yes. The publicists, do you think, because I made it official on the Twitter. I said,
Starting point is 00:05:03 from now on, the readers are the publicists. Well, yes. During this era, we're calling the Lost Culture, Recessed Culture Awards era. You're not readers anymore. You're publicists. Is it tied to the era, or do we think that they're just the publicists until the campaign is over, until awards season is over? I think in this era of the Lost Culture Awards season.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Era is not the season. Okay. Then you're so right. over until award season is over i think in this era of the award lost culture awards season era is not the season okay then you're so right and during the season yes they're publicists but then we go they go back they go back to being readers and they'll always be readers absolutely only during award season will they be publicists and the award season of lost culture is of course the last part of july aug, and then to be determined. Because we still don't know when the awards will be. Isn't that right, Beau? That's absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:05:50 We don't know. We don't know. And I think that's the beauty of Las Culturistas Culture Awards, is that these are unprecedented in so many ways. I think it's just going to be a Wednesday drop. I think no one's going to expect it. It's just going to be a Wednesday drop. I think no one's going to expect it. It's just going to be a Wednesday drop.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But I think there will be a sustained campaign from the publicists until the awards are announced. And so there's no such thing as least expecting it because I think the publicists are working so hard that they will always be expecting it. We are just blue balling them until that Wednesday drop, and we don't know when that is yet. But I think for as long as the awards don't get announced, there will be publicity. There will be campaigning. At least there should be.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I think they need to keep up this fervor at all times because you don't know when the awards will be. So what I'm saying is on Twitter, if you really are feeling passionate about a category, you should be, if you really are feeling passionate about a category, you should be tweeting that every day. Yes. I want to look at your feeds and see only for your consideration
Starting point is 00:06:53 hashtag LCCAs. Yes. And, like, I don't want to see other things. Like, I want to see you really campaigning, because the Wednesday drop could happen any time. It could be next week. It could be next week. It won't be next week. And it won't be today because today and this week we are announcing
Starting point is 00:07:09 can we spoil it? We're announcing the rest of the categories. We are announcing, this is huge, the rest of the categories. And there's some incredible ones. I think there are some of the most exciting ones. These are some of the best categories of all time. I don't disagree. I would never disagree with such a statement of my own i how often do you disagree with yourself hmm
Starting point is 00:07:32 probably about 40 of the things i say i either hear later or right afterwards i'm like well i disagree with that that's but i would never admit that right away. Very healthy, though. Sometimes it's just good just to fill the air by saying something. Yes, yes. In my life. But actually, I would try to even lower that number because there's something that's not even that valuable about, you know, turning your own critique within, inward. I don't think you should really, I think you really should stand by everything.
Starting point is 00:08:04 There's more things that you say than you are now. Well, there's a difference between owning it and standing by it and disagreeing with yourself. Like, and that's just, that's just anyone that's sort of like taking a persuasive essay, like course or like, you know, like a done has done like an argument class or like, what would you call that? Speech and debate knows that you often have to just be able to argue points that you do not believe in.'s also sort of politics too oh my god get dark in here that's also sort of politics no we let's get dark well actually i want to point out something i'm on this contra points kick as people know um she said something in this most recent quarterly release she drops these like hour and a half she is for she is for the readers that don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:45 She's Natalie Wynn. She's this like philosophy. She was in academia. No, she was like getting like her master's. Anyway, but now she's on YouTube. I'm sure some people are already like just diehard fans. There's a very active community around what she does. And like there's just fun like aesthetics to all of her videos anyway
Starting point is 00:09:07 but she said something I mean I won't contextualize what it is but she says you notice a feeling but you don't have to endorse it which is totally unrelated to like what she actually talks about in her most recent video which is about envy oh my god you have to watch it I'm sure I would love it Gina you have to watch it
Starting point is 00:09:23 what did I call you before oh Portia today your name porsche i don't know why my instinct was to call you porsche today it was well and also we're gonna get into some name shit later it's one of the categories has to do with names oh okay so let's just say you know to be continued with that putting a pin in that though for now as you often do when you want to return to something later um yes i was really thrilled with what you told me before about what was it the dionysus and the apollo could you explain that and how it how it sort of lends to the black swan narrative as i call it she brings up so the whole the whole thing is about envy and about how envy is like weaponized into like morality and in a lot of ways in politics and in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And so like she talks about like fire. She begins with fire festival being like that was like the fun. That was one of the best days on Twitter because it was shot in Florida on this huge scale. Like look at all these like influencers and rich people suffering. Yeah, and suffering. And like at the root of that is like or, you know And like at the root of that is like, or, you know, like at the root of that is envy in a way, right?
Starting point is 00:10:28 It's like some people were like in some ways envious of the people who got to go. Maybe not completely, but like that's like, that's the root. And then she talks about how envy is this like timeless universal. It's this human thing. And then she brings up Black Swan because that story is about envy in a way yes like her mother envies her um winona rider and envies her in some ways mila kunis envies her like the the the woman uh the dancer that she was like uh the actress who calls her like a bitch or
Starting point is 00:11:02 something at one point like after like the cast list after she gets like yeah cast as like the black and the white swan like there's a random girl who goes up turn is like you fucking bitch uh-huh or the horror on the mirror you know like it's a movie about envy right and she also like she is a character that envies so much about mila kunis's effortlessness exactly yeah and she she wants and wants and wants so much. And so then Natalie starts to talk about – Natalie Wynn, not Portman. Natalie Wynn starts to talk about this, like, this other model of envy, which is, like, in Spongebob between Squidward and Spongebob. Oh, my God. Where Squidward envies Spongebob in a way because, you know, they both work at the same place
Starting point is 00:11:46 and yet Squidward envies Spongebob's like childlike nature in a way. And she said, she points out something really interesting, which is that like growing, like people my age, when they watch Spongebob as kids or growing up,
Starting point is 00:11:57 they identified with Spongebob. And now what happens is when they watch Spongebob as adults, they identify with Squidward. Right. And so it's this thing of like, you know, as you age, like having your ambitions tempered
Starting point is 00:12:09 or like being like disappointed or beaten down by life anyway. She then breaks it down along the lines of like artistic impulses as defined by Nietzsche. I'm so sorry. This is so annoying. No, but I want to hear about it.
Starting point is 00:12:22 There's Apollonian impulse and there's Dionysian impulse. So either you're an Apollo or you're a Dionysus. Yes. And a lot of times it's the Apollos who had to be the Dionysuses,
Starting point is 00:12:32 the whatever. And it's that like Apollo, if you're an Apollonian artist, you like are driven by like order and morals and like structure and like wanting to like be perfect in a way and wanting to achieve an ideal whereas if you're a dionysian you are like someone who just is carefree driven by instinct driven by instincts i feel like that's you and me babe
Starting point is 00:12:58 well that's real really absolutely what you can really boil it down when you say that someone is the mila you are saying that they are sort of giving in to their Dionysian instincts in a way that is leading them forward. And then, yes, clearly, the Apollonian order that has more to do with Natalie Energy. The academic
Starting point is 00:13:18 fish. The white and the black. Yes. You understand. Well, and then she talks about how Black Swan is ultimately about if that character's journey is about her embracing both, finding both the Dionysian and the Apollonian as she plays the Black and the White Swan in the same show. And then once she achieves that, she dies. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:39 That's, I don't know. Well, it's almost saying that in terms of, it's almost like an argument about nature it's like you really can't um pretend to be someone that you're not without a cost a cost I guess is that would that be fair to say sure like you have to like it's it's it's not it's not um it's not realistic or sustainable or something to like have it like have it be like, for you to inhabit all of those things in one form or something. How did you find this person?
Starting point is 00:14:12 A friend of the pod, Cody Silver, introduced me to her. Ah. Yeah. We love Cody so much. Yes. Cody, check him out on OnlyFans if you haven't already. Yes. Some of our greatest minds are on OnlyFans.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Between Cody and Ty Mitchell, those are like two of the smartest gay men on the East Coast, I think. And you're breaking it down by coast. Yeah, I don't know what this landscape is like on the West Coast. You're right. In the South, along the Gulf, in the Midwest. Bunch of dummies, I think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:39 No, don't say that. You're being very flyover-statey right towards me. But anyway, you should watch them, babe. I would like to watch them. Don't say that. You're being very fly over Stady right towards me. But anyway, you should watch them, babe. I would like to watch them. I honestly like, I spend a lot of time on YouTube, but I would love my landing page to be filled with things other than what
Starting point is 00:14:56 it is. That's what I'm trying, I'm actively trying to make my algorithm like not think I'm a dumbass. Yeah. Because it's all just like video game reviews and like Taylor Swift compilation video. It's all just like video game reviews and like Taylor Swift compilation video. It's like, not that those are bad things. I want to see something different.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's getting to the point where it's like, I actually, sometimes, maybe some readers will identify with this, but I will sometimes go to my landing page and then I'll think to myself, do I have more than three interests? And then I'm like, wait, this can do I have more than three interests? Yes. And then I'm like, wait, this can't be true.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I have to be interested in more things than these three things. Oh, my God. This literally happened to me, like, recently where I was like, I forgot that I was interested in this thing. Which was, for me, like, video. This is so stupid. Like, video. I was like, I forgot that I love like this stuff. And it's because like the algorithm
Starting point is 00:15:47 is reflecting something back at you where you're like, I guess this is who I am. And then you begin to like self-identify that way. And then you're like, oh, but wait, it's like reduced me down to like three things, which is like drag, like my Discover page on Instagram is a whole different fucking thing
Starting point is 00:16:01 where it's Drag Race and Pokemon. And I'm like, this is. That just feels wild to me because I feel like you don't talk about either of those things too, too much. a whole different fucking thing where it's drag race and pokemon and i'm like this is that just feels wild to me because i feel like you don't talk about either of those things too too much not but it's like i'm feeding the algorithm by like tapping on these things so it'll be like some stupid like pokemon meme and i'm like oh i guess that's funny um and then i'll just like hit back but then i'm what i'm sort of returning to the algorithm is i like this give me more yeah i wonder if i'm to go to my youtube landing page literally right now let's go let's go let's
Starting point is 00:16:29 do this okay so i just typed in youtube.com okay so here this is kind of crazy it's one thing from the view kirsten cinema defends her support of the filibuster kristin said because kirsten cinema is in the running for a lot of the gesturesibuster. Kristen Sinema is in the running for a lot of the gestures. She's truly flopping. Then there's an ABC News Dems holding Governor Cuomo accountable reestablishes Okay, wait, so you've got like
Starting point is 00:16:55 I have some new stuff. And then I have this. There's this gay named Adam who runs this YouTube page called Up and Adam and he does like Housewives like news.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Love it. Housewives of Beverly Hills producers are preparing to turn over an unaired footage of Erica Girardi to help the cases. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Then I have an Access Hollywood thing which is Justin Timberlake mourning the death of his longtime backup singer Nicole Hurst which actually is a devastating story.
Starting point is 00:17:22 This woman who was I guess one of the Tennessee kids and she passed. She had cancer, and it's very sad. A lot of people in music are mourning her. Then I have something from, this is so embarrassing, and this is how I'm going to be vulnerable on this pod. Please, please.
Starting point is 00:17:36 I have Disney's Magical Express replacement pricing. So this is the buses. I don't follow this, but it's called mickey views and it's like a theme park or disney like update whenever there's like construction or whatever and this is updating people that are freaks that go to this site about the magical express which is the busing program replacement pricing so i thought the magical i thought i thought that bus service was free girl i don't know well disney is going let's get into this a little bit okay disney is a buck wild because they you know how they got rid of
Starting point is 00:18:10 their annual pass so then disneyland so they replaced it with this thing called the magic key and the prices are insane it's like truly so much more expensive than it ever was and it's like who can afford this stuff did you hear about, there's like a Star Wars hotel that you can stay in? I think I told you about this. In Anaheim or in Orlando? In Disney World. So it's called the Galactic Cruiser.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And basically you go and it's a two-day experience. And it's truly like for two adults, it's like $2,400. It's like really expensive. Or maybe even more than that. Maybe it's like 48. It's like, oh, really, really expensive. So it's a two-day experience. basically what it is is you go and you go into space and are basically staying on a on a galactic cruiser so you go to the damn park yes so basically what they suggest
Starting point is 00:18:57 the schedule which is that you take a like uh like a bus that's actually like a space transport into galaxy's Edge itself. And then they have you on a schedule, like this is when you do Rise of the Resistance. This is when you do the Millennium Falcon ride. You don't have to book it yourself. You do not have to book it yourself. It's like one of the perks.
Starting point is 00:19:14 But basically like while you're staying in the hotel over these two days, you interact with the staff who are obviously all in character. And you're supposed to like live a Star Wars adventure. So for people that really want that next almost Westworldian step in immersion, that's what they're doing now.
Starting point is 00:19:32 And so on my YouTube landing page, I get constant updates about what this is. Basically my pull is when they I knew it was going to be so crazy expensive. So when they announced the pricing, I was like, who the fuck can afford this? This is going to be so crazy expensive. So when they announced the pricing, I was like, who the fuck can afford this?
Starting point is 00:19:47 This is going to be wealthy people only. Yeah. And also, can we just talk about like, what is the value in immersion anyway? Like I, I, I,
Starting point is 00:19:56 I'm fine with like a Ren Faire thing, but I feel like, what are you like? Who cares if you like talk to like, like staff who are in character? That's like my, I, I like that. Like, I like a very thin application of that at somewhere like Disney world. Who cares if you talk to staff who are in character? That's like my... I like a very thin application of that
Starting point is 00:20:08 at somewhere like Disney World. But I'm like, I don't wanna... I'm not gonna pay more money to believe that I'm in a movie. You know what? Counterpoint, I would say, that is actually the part that makes it really memorable for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And I think it makes it memorable for a lot of children. But I guess what I'm what I'm rubbing up against with this now is it's so expensive that it's only going to be giving that to like a select handful of like very wealthy children. And I also think like the weird it's like weirdly like seems like it's for adults. But the immersion of it all, it's like, as long as it feels like you can still go off and do whatever the fuck you want. Like I'm cool with them giving it a shot. Like if people want to pay for it and want that experience,
Starting point is 00:20:57 like go for it. But it does, it would feel a little weird to me to be on a two day schedule. That's like, in order to get your money's worth, you have to follow this exact thing because that to me would make me feel a little weird to me to be on a two-day schedule that's like in order to get your money's worth you have to follow this exact thing because that to me would make me feel a little insane and you are on vacation which is supposed to be relaxing exactly but then again people who are very goal-oriented and like um you know checkpoint oriented like maybe would like a vacation like
Starting point is 00:21:19 that i'm saying the the value prop for me is that you get to go you get to go on rise of the resistance and not have to like get up literally at the ass crack so yeah so that's like a big part of it i guess like part you get to go on rise of the resistance um and not have to wake up at like seven in the morning and make a reservation online and like do the whole thing which is also restrictive to people who don't have mobile phones etc et cetera. But also I, I don't know that I would just the way you describe it to me. I'm like, I don't really think I would want to, and this isn't me.
Starting point is 00:21:50 We won't go then. Oh, great. We'll go stay at the Swan Hotel. Thank you. You don't have to follow any Swan story. Okay. Well,
Starting point is 00:21:58 I'm just saying like, even if you, okay. Like, let's say you were to like pitch me like that experience for like zelda like something that i really love i'm like i'm not gonna pay i don't care but that's i guess where we forget people with star wars are i know i know i know i know but like there's also not a very high capacity at this hotel so what's gonna happen is it's going to fill up years in advance see this is and then it's like why do we do it
Starting point is 00:22:26 it's it's it's like classic like marketing stuff i don't i don't even know what i'm talking about but it's like it's the reason why like ps5s are still hard to get it's like there's no actual real reason for them for them to like not manufacture more it's just it's it it fits into like a specific sales schedule for them but um I was going to say at the end of the day though, not to be like reductive and we love the parks, but you're still like in like a fenced swamp. Like that's all that, that's all the Disney property is in Orlando.
Starting point is 00:22:58 And I'm like, you might as well just like pay for like a nice luxury hotel experience. That's great. But to like theme it so aggressively, I'm like, that feels scary to me. I think it's just not for you. No,
Starting point is 00:23:12 no, no. That's. And I think that for the people it's for, that's great. It's just, it's so expensive. Like that.
Starting point is 00:23:18 I'm like, this is not available to everyone. And if I was someone who was in like a low income family or even a middle income family, and I wanted to do this and I saw what it was priced that it would just demoralize me no it's crazy and like that's and I I really you know what I almost like hesitate to say this because they own everything but it's like you know Disney is so about the bottom line that it's just it feels a little everyone's about the bottom line well everyone's about the bottom line especially as we move
Starting point is 00:23:45 forward and like you it becomes more and more clear but like but then anyway anyway regardless um there is a live Tyler architectural digest home tour which I'm really excited to watch that's classic I'm really excited to watch that um and there is actually shout out to Trixie Mattel I have the pit stop um
Starting point is 00:24:02 all stars six episode eight to watch with Raja this is not that damning this is like you have a pretty good no yeah then there's a Kelly Clarkson it's quiet uptown from Hamilton cover if I refresh it says what um bang bang my baby shot me down live from
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Starting point is 00:27:25 and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Before we get into all that, please tell me what's on your YouTube landing page.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Is it damning? Probably. My first one is, because I have like 30 seconds left in the in the envy contra points is that contra points video oh right my second one is um a recipe for uh korean bulgogi bowl um from this youtube chef i really like um her name is marion um it's not uh it's not sangkyung longast and it's not Mangchi those are like two other really popular YouTube
Starting point is 00:28:25 Korean YouTubers that I really like anyway my YouTube is mostly like recipes even though I don't fucking cook but can you admit
Starting point is 00:28:33 to watching a lot of food related recipe stuff on YouTube okay well that's kind of interesting and cool are you sort of
Starting point is 00:28:39 trying to dip your toe into the cooking no no I'm just like it brings me great comfort it's like to watch it happen it's like it's kind No, I'm just like, it brings me great comfort. It's like the reason... To watch it happen?
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's like, it's kind of this... I understand why people watch mukbang videos of people eating things. For me, it's like, I really am relaxed by people making food. We have to watch Cooking with Paris. I hear it's not a cooking show, though. Well, I hear it's... Someone posted before, just like, she's
Starting point is 00:29:01 sitting with Kim Kardashian eating something, and it was, Kim takes a bite of something and looks at her and goes like this. Like, she's enjoying it so much. And her face is just like, oh, my God. And just like watching them eat was like really satisfying. Wow. And then like she sat down and ate something with. You would like mukbang.
Starting point is 00:29:20 You like watching people eat things. I think I. Well, then I. Well, here's the deal. I get so hungry. No, me too. I always get hungry when i watch the cooking videos i'm like i want that and you're it's probably happening at night it's probably happening at night but i even do this when i order like delivery for lunch or dinner like i will i'll order dumplings and then i'll look up dumpling videos yeah and it's like so fun they are really satisfying to watch to watch
Starting point is 00:29:44 get made dumplings yeah yeah yeah like i believe on beverly hills earlier this season oh yeah when dumplings crystal wasn't yeah that was so sweet by the way crystal kong minkoff was on the podcast and these girls hosted by sarah galley it was an amazing interview wow she really gets into she really explains i'm such a huge fan we love her i would like to reach out to her. Let's reach out to her. Have her have her very first housewife. But she,
Starting point is 00:30:08 she, so Rob came into the interview. I guess they were staying together. She was in New York to do watch what happens live. And do you know this? This gagged me. He did the original character design for Ursula. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:30:21 He drew Ursula. So they were, he said in the interview, he like popped in and talked about this she asked really amazing questions great job sarah um but he was like you know originally the character design for ursula was going to be very joan collins well they and then that design ended up being in the second movie as morgana ursula's sister yeah yes so he said he as an idea, I guess his roommate was like,
Starting point is 00:30:45 um, this gay guy who would, who was into divine and would dress up as divine. And he was like, got into divine and like drew the very first image of Ursula as like a very voluptuous. Rob did? Yes,
Starting point is 00:30:56 Rob. So Rob was an animator and he, and he also worked, he, he wrote an early draft of the story for beauty and the beast. And that's why by doing all of that stuff, He also worked, he wrote an early draft of the story for Beauty and the Beast. Wow. And that's why, by doing all of that stuff, they gave him the responsibility of directing The Lion King.
Starting point is 00:31:10 But he, Rob Minkoff, Crystal, the Kung Minkoff's husband, is why we have Ursula the way we have her, and probably why Pat Carroll was cast. God, that's so great. And she went so into how she used the word violated because when she walked in on her i i fully am on crystal's side she really opens up about how hard it is with the eating disorder and her body image to be on the show and she they had such an emotional conversation it's i really recommend listening we love crystal i i'm sure we talked about this on the pod maybe but if i'm chris if i'm naked in
Starting point is 00:31:45 a room and then someone walked in walked in and didn't immediately withdraw or like close the door if if like sutton kept walking into the room even to quickly drop the thing off i would have been like what the fuck are you doing yeah it's it would be so upsetting to me anyway especially when you take into account like the specific issues that Crystal deals with, which she has elaborated on on the show a little bit, but has really got into on this one episode of the podcast. If you're a fan, you should listen, was really, really great.
Starting point is 00:32:18 But I couldn't believe that he was responsible for all that. I just thought that was so cool. And he was like, yeah, I'm thought that was so cool and he was like yeah i'm like truly a kid at heart and a nerd and like you know uh like and he seems very cool about her being on the show he's like an artist yeah really really cool love it okay what's that what else what else um i have a playthrough of the great ace attorney chronicles it's this game i'm playing um it's a courtroom game it's a japanese game where you play as a lawyer i love that oh and it's so fun and it's like and you're supposed to like there's like an investigation part where
Starting point is 00:32:51 you're supposed to look search for clues and evidence and then you have to bring it to court and then present and you have to like it's almost always about taking one villain down who's like making you seem like the bad guy it's so it's so Okay, then I have New York Film Academy's Q&A with Elizabeth Olsen. I have so much Elizabeth Olsen. I have a lot of Elizabeth Olsen content. Like a ton. And then, okay, I have four more.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I have the hot ones of Matt Damon, unfortunately, because I watch hot ones. Oh my God, I had the hot ones of Matt Damon. I didn't say it. Shame. And why is that? I didn't want to bring him up. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Okay, let's move on. You retract. Yes, you retract. I have these two straight male doctors talking, dermatologists talking about exfoliation tips. That's my skincare YouTube lane. And then I have, unfortunately, I always see SNL sketches because I'll just like, like you all wake up on a Sunday and be like, Oh my God, I want to watch that sketch again.
Starting point is 00:33:46 Not even, I'll be like, I want to watch that thing where Heidi plays the cocaine wife. I often get like Bowen Yang YouTube things. And I'm like, is it because they hear me talking about it? Like, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:33:57 It's like, it's like, here's what Bowen did on SNL last night. And I'm like, it's so funny that it knows, it just, but I guess it would give that to any fag, not any fag, Not any fag.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Not the ones who don't stand me. I stand you. Maybe that's why. Maybe that's why. And then I have a jerk chicken meatballs recipe from New York Times. Come on, food. It's a lot of food. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I'm now seeing, I have a lot of music. So Maggie Rogers performing Say It on the Tonight Show. And also there's one headline that I have to say out loud because it's so funny to me. Problematic roller coasters. And then, by the way, there's one that says unforgettable moments from Meghan McCain co-hosting The View,
Starting point is 00:34:37 which is from The View's channel. And she is officially done. She is officially out of there. I mean, what do we think her next chapter is, besides being our producer? Producing the show, raising her daughter, Liberty. That's right.
Starting point is 00:34:54 She's just so on the nose. It's so crazy. The daughter's name is Liberty, which, you know what? Maybe they'll call her Libby. I just can't imagine being called Liberty. But then again, I'm not a McCain. Like, maybe they'll call her Libby. I just can't imagine being called Liberty. But then again, I'm not a McCain. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I don't know. It's like she's even, like, on the nose in terms of, like, being a woman who has gay friends. It's like with the hair. It's like you're so, so, like, you're like an insect on the ground. You don't even have any perspective on, like, what things look like an insect on the ground you don't even have any perspective on like what like things look like an inch above the floor i'm sorry i'm being so toxic i mean i just the fact that the daughter was named liberty i was like i really was like i mean it's just it feels like who is it for it's not for the not for the kid yeah like she has to live with her name it's for john mccain and that's just i guess that and
Starting point is 00:35:46 you know what the thing is sometimes it just feels like she's like stunting to prove a point or to be like no i actually do walk the walk my daughter's name is liberty and it's like yeah but now girl that girl's name is gonna be liberty that's i think that people don't sometimes understand that when you name your child something, your child lives with that name probably most of the time. I'm going to say 99% of the time for the rest of their life. It's so funny now to be in an age
Starting point is 00:36:14 where you'll watch Gwyneth Paltrow in an interview being like, yeah, Apple was saying this. I'm like, oh yeah, there's a human being out there who has accepted the fact that their name is Apple. Apple Martin. Here's the deal. This is actually something i really think it like if if you are someone with a name if a last name that's like martin then you can get away with an exotic weirdo first name yeah yeah but like i don't i don't and who cares like name your kid whatever the fuck you want i just
Starting point is 00:36:44 want people to understand that when you name your daughter Liberty, like, then she has to say, hi, I'm Liberty. No, no, there's nothing wrong with the name Liberty. Liberty, I guess, no, not Liberty McCain. Where I'm saying that. Liberty Dominich. For Meghan McCain to be who she is, to name her daughter Liberty, because in some ways it recalls her lineage or something. It's like, that's what's upsetting to me. I'm like, oh, you're reminding us that your dad was a senator
Starting point is 00:37:09 and that you are this- Love America. It's so pathetic. Whatever. I just feel like, I don't know. It's just, anyway, blessings to her. We can't wait for you to work closer with us. We can't wait for you to work closer with us we can't wait for your you to take a even uh more firm hand on the going goings on of this podcast moving forward
Starting point is 00:37:33 thank you let's talk about another icon blonde icon blonde wait were you disappointed that she didn't come out so you guys we went to go see lady gaga and tony and when she sang bang bang which she did she did she didn't come out of the black curly wig which i really wanted i really wanted but no it's fine she she i think she wanted to like keep it i don't know just like simple and i think she understood that this was like tony bennett's last concert oh my god i can't believe it you guys it was so special it was to really get real for a second you you said this the other day you were like it was a historic concert it was a historic moment disagree which yeah which i agree it was an historic moment and historic um i will say i think there were 40 standing ovations
Starting point is 00:38:18 throughout the night vulture counted 27 wow yeah yeah so and we were up for every single one of them yes i will say, I think we led some, I literally left out of my chair so many times. Yeah. We, we were so like lucky to be there and I will. So just to walk you through what happened readers,
Starting point is 00:38:36 it was Tony Bennett's last night. It was Gaga came out and probably did like an hour. Right. Yeah. And then she left the stage after killing it she sang she ended with la vie en rose which was like huge and she said i would not have sung this song if tony didn't tell me to and then the implication there is like because bradley cooper saw gaga sing that and was like you have to be in a star is like i could tell that gaga was basically communicating like i
Starting point is 00:39:02 would not have maybe would not have gotten a star Is Born if it hadn't been for my friendship with Tony. And she sang it. Unbelievably well. You guys, this is what I'm saying. If you don't love Lady Gaga, you don't love yourself. And I'm doubling down on it, girl. Like she was absolutely alive in her performance.
Starting point is 00:39:20 She's really one of the best we have. She like is a perfect vessel for like so much music history and i think she was channeling and i'm not just saying this because of the coincidence of it all she was channeling barbara she was channeling judy like it is like that's like that's like the lineage like that's like the new supreme logic i'm sorry i'm sorry to make that like reference but it's like she is like logic. I'm sorry. I'm sorry to make that like reference, but it's like, she is like, she's carrying this legacy from now on.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Absolutely. And then, so, so she sang La Vie en Rose. And then as a way of introducing Tony, she was like, I'm going to bring out Tony Bennett now. You guys have to make this a night.
Starting point is 00:39:58 He will remember that. Make him smile, make him laugh, make him feel at home. And she sang New York, New York. She sang, she,
Starting point is 00:40:04 and then she threw on this jewel-encrusted top hat and fucking belted the shit out of New York, New York. Fucking jumped around the stage, shook her ass, shook her tits, did all of it. Yeah. Just got this room of thousands of people at Radio City just like- Amped. Amped to welcome welcome Tony Bennett and then he came on stage
Starting point is 00:40:27 didn't miss a single fucking note. No this is something that you need to understand so like when we say he did not miss a note, a word and beyond that just like articulation just like every word meaning something real
Starting point is 00:40:43 like real performance now it was his 95th birthday the man is 95 so he's been doing this for like i'm going on 80 years understand that it's so in his body that it was just such a sight to behold and i do believe that you know he's obviously in his very old age like this was his last show it's crazy to say that but i think he has declined because you could really only say there's a dementia diagnosis right so he's he's he's obviously declined but he could really only say in between songs like wow or beautiful or a beautiful audience and he couldn't really say much but every word of every song was there and you enjoyed it. When he sang Smile,
Starting point is 00:41:27 oh my, that's when I lost it for real. That's when I lost it for real. And then so he's performing and she comes out and he says, Lady Gaga! And then they sang about four songs together and this was really the moment of the night. She turns to him and she says something along the lines of,
Starting point is 00:41:42 Mr. Bennett, I just want to say on behalf of everyone here and on behalf of everyone in the world that has enjoyed your music thank you so much for gracing us with your talent that has changed the world for the better and you are one of a kind you're a legend you always will be and it would be my honor to escort you off the stage and there it was just not a dry eye not a dry eye and it was just not a dry eye. Not a dry eye. Oh, my God. And it was like two, three, four minutes of Gaga and Tony slowly walking offstage together and everyone on their feet clapping, sending this man off, and him waving goodbye. It was so surreal.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I got really emotional at one Yeah, I was just, I got really emotional at one point because I was just like, this is truly a moment of like, not just exaltation, but this is what he deserves. You know what I mean? Like it's a true music legend.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And there are so few that have done it for that long. And it really just, it made me so like proud to be, this sounds so silly, but it made me proud to be in the arts. It made me proud to be a New Yorker. It made me proud like to be a music fan.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Like, and it really was, I don't take for granted that we were able to go there. Like we are so lucky and fortunate. So lucky. Like to be able to have seen that because, you know, these people are not here forever. And it's important to try to go out to have seen that because you know these people are not here forever and it's it's important to try to go out there and see that because i was so emotional because i was like this is truly a person who has impacted so many who is getting the opportunity for people to scream
Starting point is 00:43:19 their love for him and support for him and she got that she knew her responsibility she took it so seriously that someone has impacted her so much i think culturally musically socially as a friend you know what i mean like it's just so it was just a perfect night it was um and shouts to radio city for requiring proof of vaccination for everybody um going in wait i want to read this thing apparently they're making a documentary, and I think... Yeah, they were filming it. They were filming it, too. But, like, there's going to be, like, BTS stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:50 There's this, like, passage from... Okay, this is, like, from the AARP. So the AARP, like, did some write-up about Tony and Gaga, like, leading up to this concert, and, like, specifically with the focus on his battle with alzheimer's but okay here let me just read this because i don't think we're ready for this documentary tony was doing but tony was a considerably more muted presence during the recording of the new album with gaga and raw documentary footage of the sessions he speaks rarely and when he does his words are halting at times he seems lost and bewildered gaga clearly
Starting point is 00:44:22 aware of his condition keeps her utterances short and simple, as is recommended by experts in the disease when talking to Alzheimer's patients. You sound so good, Tony, she tells him at one point. Thanks, is his one-word response. She says that she thinks all the time about their 2015 tour. Tony looks at her wordlessly. Wasn't that fun every night, she prompts him? Yeah, he says, uncertainly.
Starting point is 00:44:43 The pain and sadness in gaga's face is clear at such moments but never more so than in an extraordinarily moving sequence in which tony a man she calls quote an incredible mentor friend and father figure sings the solo passage of a love song gaga looks on from behind her mic her smile breaking into a quiver her eyes brimming before she puts her hands over her face and sobs like, Oh my God, this is, this is so like, it's such a special tragic,
Starting point is 00:45:10 but, but ultimately like that, the thing about that night was that it was joyful. It wasn't ever, it never really dipped into sadness. No, it did not. And that is a testament,
Starting point is 00:45:21 I think to the way, to the tone that she said. Yes. And that was all her. And I would say, you know, it's so easy to, you know, it's funny. Like, it's actually her, I believe her grandmother says to her in the Joanne documentary, she says, don't be maudlin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that maybe it's something that she took from that experience.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Uh-huh, uh-huh. Because she was so light and fun. Yes. that maybe it's something that she took from that experience because she was so light and fun and you know she was twirling in her gown she had like three costumes that she wore and they were all absolutely fantastic
Starting point is 00:45:57 and you know he clearly just had so much fun watching her and I think that it really was a tone that she set because it is easy to, when something is so sad, and there are few things that are as sad as losing someone to Alzheimer's or a degenerative disease like that, like Parkinson's, and it's in my family, and I've seen it it up close and it is in Bowen as well. And I think that it's, it's something that, you know, you can't really explain until you go through it and you have someone close to you that's experiencing that. But truly, I think there is something to keeping things fun and keeping things light and keeping things clear. And the message of that evening was very clear clear which was we're
Starting point is 00:46:45 celebrating yeah you know what i mean like and so that was like i said like we joke about iconic moments in culture like and we're all tongue-in-cheek and stupid about it but like truly that was a moment that was a moment that was a moment in time for sure one of the top i think it's in the top i think that's in the top like 25. It's something I'll never forget. I will never forget. You honestly want to know like I think that will be probably in my top five of my life thus far most memorable concert experiences. Oh yeah. It'll be that when I saw Beyonce do four when she did her four nights at Roseland.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Yeah. I went with Colin Cortopassi. Oh my God. And like it inspired me so much and she was just so amazing and then I don't know like I would hesitate Mariah my first concert
Starting point is 00:47:34 ever when she came out in her sailor look and said do you like the ensemble it was my first concert I've ever seen I was 10 years old and I screamed like a faggot next to my dad and at Madison Square Garden and I'll never forget it for as long as I live but other ones too but yeah like that was it was one of those nights where I was truly sitting there and inspired you know yeah oh I was fully inspired I was like I I just need like I just want to like I just I just I just I just I just want to like take in I
Starting point is 00:48:04 just want to observe her. I, I, I, I don't know if you caught me. I looked over at you a lot and you were just like enjoying it so much, but I don't know if you ever caught me just like jaw dropped. It's like,
Starting point is 00:48:13 I was just taking it in. I was just like, Oh my God, she's doing it. And Sudi kept, I mean, when she put on her top hat for New York, New York,
Starting point is 00:48:21 she just like struck an angle and held it a pose and held it and then Judy just said she is so aware of her stage picture at all times like that as a performer she knows what she looks like on stage to other people and that is like that sounds very like shallow I guess but it's so important no it's a show it's a show it's like she like is so seasoned already as a performer that she doesn't she it's so it's just so powerful i don't know i fucking i mean i think people know at this point that like we both love gaga but like i've been like truly so obsessed since since day one i to me i'm gonna say something that is going to get a lot of people like
Starting point is 00:49:05 angry. Like Gaga is Gaga is like, maybe like, I'm going to say, no, I was going to say she was better than Madonna, but we don't have to get into that conversation. I just,
Starting point is 00:49:15 I, you know what I said the other day, and maybe this is sort of similar to what you're trying to articulate, which is, I do believe she is our share. I do believe she is a generational. Yes. Like talent who will last for as long as she wants. which is I do believe she is our Cher. I do believe she is a generational talent who will last for as long as she wants to.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Maybe if Cher's talents skew more towards the acting performance realm, then Gaga's talents skew a little bit more towards the musical, then I would say maybe that's like a way to distill how they are different but i believe that they're similar in so many like spiritual ways like in terms of reinvention in terms of being able to do so much by the way i think the house of gucci trailer looks good and like camp and i'd like good camp good like yeah yeah yeah i do not I know a lot of people
Starting point is 00:50:06 think she sounds like Count Jocula. I think we should wait and I think, you know, maybe it is a crazy accent but let's understand we're going to settle into it and the movie's going to be what it is and I think it looks delish.
Starting point is 00:50:21 We're all going to see it. Yeah, I'll see you there. Yeah. I looks delish. We're all gonna see it. Yeah, I'll see you there. Yeah. I, anything else we wanna talk about with Tony and Gaga? I mean, just that it was one of the best nights ever
Starting point is 00:50:33 and, you know, I'll say, he, when he, I'll say again, when he sang Smile, just, it's just one of the most beautiful songs in the world.
Starting point is 00:50:44 And I, also knowing the state that he is in and that he was able to still get that message out so beautifully and clearly. It's just, it's like sometimes like you hear the right person sing the right song and it just, it changes like the way you feel. Oh no, 100%. You know, like it's just so amazing.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Speaking of 4 by Beyonce, I mean, that's my whole thing with school and life. It's like that. Oh, yeah. That was big for you. It truly snapped me out of something dark.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Like a dark moment. Okay. My only note about the Gaga show was I did want her in a black curly wig and a red leather jumpsuit to sing Bang Bang. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:51:18 That's fair. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We'll be right back. is a gossip. No one gets out of your life. Salt Lake City. We don't wear costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. Let's have a real good time. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time
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Starting point is 00:52:14 women face day to day see athlete or not, we all know it takes a lot as women to be at the top of our game we want to share those stories about balancing work and relationships, motherhood, career shifts, you know, just all the we go through. Because no matter who you are,
Starting point is 00:52:32 there are levels to what we experience as women and T and I, well, we have no problem going there. Listen to levels to this with Cheryl Swoops and Tarika Foster-Brasby and I Heart Women's Sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw
Starting point is 00:53:04 interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere.
Starting point is 00:54:15 Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with.
Starting point is 00:54:26 His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
Starting point is 00:54:50 as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's deliver on what we promised. Let's actually deliver on what we promised let's actually deliver on what we promised because it's important to do that in life um i agree and uh we have yeah the rest of the categories for the lost culture is just culture awards woo as they say woo woo as they say so
Starting point is 00:55:18 these are some great categories wouldn't you say i would say that these are some of the like we said in the top of the episode these are some of the, like we said in the top of the episode, these are some of the most iconic categories that have ever been announced. In any award show. And I think that we've done really well so far in sort of covering all different areas. You know, best planet, best animal on the sea, best note ever sung, best picture, literal picture,
Starting point is 00:55:38 best asker, sort of smallest snub. We're covering the whole, all parts of culture and we have gone even further with these. And I didn't think we could. I didn't think we could get deeper. It's like when you swim out into the ocean and you think I can't go further. And you shouldn't. But you keep going.
Starting point is 00:55:55 But you shouldn't. And I just want to say you shouldn't. But you can always go further. You can always go further. That's actually real culture number 77. In the ocean you can always go further. That's actually rule of culture number 77. In the ocean, you can always go further, but you shouldn't. And we have gone further in this sense. Okay, so we just want to clear up.
Starting point is 00:56:15 There was some confusion. We announced a 73rd category on the episode drop two weeks ago. It was not a category we had discussed on the episode, but Matt and I, on the day, as I made the graphics for the category list, I said, we have to throw in a category. It will be the biggest award of the night.
Starting point is 00:56:32 This is actually the biggest award of the night and it is category number 73. And it's sort of iconic for the 73rd category, 73 questions, Vogue much? Yes.
Starting point is 00:56:43 For it to be the biggest category of the night. But sometimes when the award show goes on for a very long time, you do have to throw in a big category in the middle there. So that's why number 73, we do have a next category. We do have a next category. This is the, go ahead Bowen. Christina Aguilera Award for coming on this bitch mad as hell. Now for the uninitiated,
Starting point is 00:57:05 there was once a tweet which went as follows. Christina was at her lowest. Fat, nasty, and broke. Career in shambles. She came on this bitch mad as hell! And then the link to moves like Jagger. This tweet has struck a cultural nerve. Every gay
Starting point is 00:57:27 cis man on the East Coast. Who said it? We need to save the handle, because that gets lost. Are you looking it up? Yes. Okay, so Bowen is going to look up the sort of icon that tweeted this. This is this account is
Starting point is 00:57:43 only, it goes only by the letter lowercase j. The handle is at very thick vag with four j's. And the description is Harriet Tubman fan account. So they're an icon. They're a legend. And I hope they realize what they're called. I mean, 11,000 likes on Twitter. I mean, people really, really, really, really responded to this.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And this person is obviously a huge fan of Christina's bridge verse on moves like Jagger, which we can agree was definitely a cultural reset. And she came on this bitch mad as hell. And so this is an award that honors that spirit of just being so motivated by your squalor that you are just gonna fucking give it to them and in this case squalor can mean true squalor or you have a cushy job on the voice for i don't know 12 million dollars a season and a storied career as a pop star and also you
Starting point is 00:58:45 are not fat nasty or broke you're simply christina aguilera but the sentiment of christina was at her lowest fat nasty and broke career in shambles she came on this bitch mad as hell that sentiment it's poetry well we should just say that that is a poem. That is a poem. I mean, there's... Oh, my God. Descansion. Descansion. Let's just say that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And Matt has already pitched a winner for this, and I cannot disagree with him. So, I mean, publicists, please campaign for this event, for this category as you would any other. But we already have a really, really big contender for this. And, of course, every category will have three nominees nominees that's something that bowen's finding out now in the moment we have a next category america's next top model talk about this what does this mean so sort of in the modeling industry we have young girls sort of coming up yes um you know you hear about country
Starting point is 00:59:45 america oh yeah you hear about them the hadids yes uh the other hadids you hear about um you know heidi klum who's very famous you hear about heidi klum but this is america's next top model so you may have been aware of the show i'm i was very aware of the show yeah same but this now doesn't doesn't necessarily have to do anything with the show this is a lost culture recess culture award culture award for america's next top model now any anything that any rubric tyra graded on that's not necessarily us no this is going to be our again subjective opinion that is informed by the publicist's campaigning. We have a next category.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Yeah, this is more fashion. This is more fashion. Best dressed rhyme. This one rhymes. Best dressed. Interesting that it rhymes. Doesn't necessarily mean anything. I think it means, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:40 someone who has this sartorial awareness, someone who really- I was just saying the rhyme doesn't necessarily mean anything. Rhyme doesn't mean anything. Rhyme is usually meaningless. Save that. But I just think it's fun that there's an internal rhyme there.
Starting point is 01:00:58 Talk about this. I mean, I knew it as a senior superlative. It's a senior superlative. Maybe it's something... Is there another setting for this? senior superlative. You know, maybe it's something. I mean, is there another setting for this? I was going to say summer camp, but no. I mean, I think that there could be a best dressed anywhere. Often you see in the pages of the rags.
Starting point is 01:01:15 The rags. Well, so then let's talk about this. Is this best dressed during a certain time, in a certain place, at a certain event? This is just best dressed overall. I don't think it's up to us. I think it is, but is it? I think it's up to the publicist to convince.
Starting point is 01:01:31 This is what I love about the Lost Culture Easter's Culture Award. It's not really up to us. Even though we say it is, when we say it is, it's like we don't actually mean it. I think we're making the decisions. So in a way, that is up to us. For sure, but is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Because, look, I would just say for this, I don't have a frontrunner the way I do for many of the other categories. In fact, I've already sort of suggested some winners to Bowen.
Starting point is 01:01:55 But, you know, like I said, there's going to be three nominees for every... So this is one of those categories that's like, it's a crowded field. A lot of really
Starting point is 01:02:03 well-dressed people. Can I ask you a personal question? Yes. Good. When you were in high school, how do you think you ranked in terms of the best-dressed thing?
Starting point is 01:02:13 I was in the gutter. You did not compete. I was really... I was face-down covered in every kind of gross shit when it comes to this category. I did not. You were not a good dresser.
Starting point is 01:02:28 I was not a good dresser. Still, arguably, I'm not. I think you're a great dresser. I'm wearing a t-shirt and shorts. What are you thinking you're going to wear for the Emmys? I don't know yet. I'm figuring it out. You're figuring it out.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Yeah. Because are you still unsure about what the whole deal is going to be? Yeah, I don't know what the hell is going to happen. I just wanted to ask. Did I ever tell you I famously placed second for best dressed? Really? I did not win a senior superlative. I placed second in three categories.
Starting point is 01:02:55 What were the categories? Best dressed, attached at the hip with my best friend, Kenny Donahue. Shout out. Kenny, we love you. Love you, baby. He's got a baby at home. He's got a baby. I just met the baby.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And then third. And then most athletic and i lost to malcolm brown wow um but oh can i just quickly say something about and you were most likely to become a snl cast member which was the fun which was the sort of um florid way of saying like funniest like a class clown. But it should have just been called class clown because now I've got to explain to people, no, it wasn't about SNL, really. It was mostly about... It's a pretty direct prompt for the voters, Bowen. Most likely to be on SNL, and they felt that was you.
Starting point is 01:03:36 They were right. One of the smartest high schools in the country. That's not true. Aurora Girls. Aurora Girls. Aurora Girls, like prima donna girls. Oh my god, Marina. Marina. And I, but it's like the best dressed was most likely to be on the cover of Vogue. Like that was our high school.
Starting point is 01:03:53 So y'all were doing the most to say the least. We were doing the most to say the least. In terms of naming the categories. Yes. So I did not win a senior superlative, but then I did walk away with prom king. So then you, you did end up winning in the end. But you know, oh, so this envy thing is interesting. Sorry to bring up counterpoints again,
Starting point is 01:04:07 but she talks, she brings up how in a lot of studies, bronze medalists are overall happier than silver medalists because they're just, the bronze medalists are just happy to be there. Right. Thank you for including me, they say.
Starting point is 01:04:19 The silver medalists are like, I was so close to getting the gold. And that is like envy sort of like coming up and like truly polluting your whole mindset and being like, well, I'm not happy, even though I did objectively better than the bronze medalist. Right. Isn't that weird? And also, like, honestly, bronze you can look at and it's like some variation
Starting point is 01:04:35 of gold. Whereas like It's a shade of gold. It's a shade of gold. And so if you have someone over the house, you know, and your medal is hanging up, they could sort of scan over and be like, oh my god, that's a gold medal. And maybe they don't ask about it because they saw the bronze. If you see a bronze medal in the distance, I will have to squint or walk closer to make sure it's bronze and not gold. It could be gold.
Starting point is 01:04:54 But if you see a silver medal, you're like, oh. Silver is iconically silver. That's actually a rule of culture number 33. Silver is iconically silver. Unmistakable with anything else. Not even gray. No no it's not gray it is not even it's not even like people think that silver and gray are like you know like companion like colors or or you know materials no do you want to know the queerest thing i've ever done what i was five years old and there's a video of me it was like a like a bus safety thing
Starting point is 01:05:26 like we all had to go in one by one and like we all had to like go and walk and like answer questions from someone about about like if a stranger ever came up to you what would you say so they asked me a series of questions and they go what's your name and i said matthew and they said what uh what's your favorite um food and i said, like, I don't know. I like to eat a lot of stuff. Cheeseburgers. And I have a look in my eye like I didn't like this. I don't like being questioned.
Starting point is 01:05:53 So they said, what's your mom's name? And I said, Katrina. What's your dad's name? Richard. Do you have a little sister? Yes. What's her name? Chelsea.
Starting point is 01:06:00 And then they said, do you have a best friend? And I said, I have a lot of friends. And they said, who is your best friend? i said i have a lot of friends and they said who was your best friend and i was like i can't pick and they're like what do you do with your friends and i go they play with that i play with them they play with me i literally said it like that i play with them they play with me it was very new york so then they ask what's your favorite color without missing a beat, I go silver. Oh my God. I've never been so proud.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Julio Torres found dead. I was first. You were first. Well, Julio's shirt is clear. He clears his favorite color. But that is very much the same wavelength. Silver. You had this confidence in that moment.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Not confidence. It's the only video I want to find. I don't know where it is. I know we have it somewhere, but I was in shock watching it when I said silver because I would never think to say that. But silver is my favorite color. You are a silver bitch.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Queen. And I know we just talked about the negatives of being silver. No, no, no. Because you're not number one. No, that's purely on a performance competitive level. But in terms of the aesthetic, in terms of the look, you are silver. No, no, no. Because you're not number one. No, that's purely on a performance competitive level. But in terms of the aesthetic, in terms of the look,
Starting point is 01:07:07 you are silver. I believe that I am silver and you are gold. And that's not even on like... No, it's not pejorative. But it's not like, oh, one's better than the other. It's just that we are both...
Starting point is 01:07:18 No, they actually are two sides of the same coin. One coin, we don't know. As Pokemon made clear, Pokemon gold and silver... Say that! Silver is arguably, in some ways, silver's better, in some ways gold is, but there are equals. coin what coin we don't know as pokemon made clear pokemon gold and silver say that silver is arguably in some ways but silver is better in some ways gold is but there are equals so i would say that you are gold and i am silver and i am famously red and you are blue yes that's what we were in
Starting point is 01:07:36 culture war yes and then when pokemon yellow came in i was just like i don't know what that is that's sooty yellow sooty is yellow sooty is crystal yes it was a gold silver. That's sooty yellow. Sooty is yellow. Sooty is crystal. Yes. It was gold, silver, and crystal. Yeah. Sooty is yellow and crystal. Yes. I'm red and silver, and you are gold and blue. How does it... It's energetic.
Starting point is 01:07:54 It's energetic. And I love this. We have the next category. This is the National Park Award for Nature. The national parks represent nature? Absolutely. represent nature absolutely 100 better than almost anything else i close my eyes and i think of nature i think the national parks many of them but this is we're not honoring the national parks we're we're saying that there something out there needs to be awarded for the way it represents nature, for the way it even exemplifies
Starting point is 01:08:27 and is the best of nature. Yeah. What do you think, do you think this, so this is a general category, it could be a tree, it could be a creek, a rock, an animal. I think it could be anything that appears in nature. And this happens to be named after the national parks.
Starting point is 01:08:43 This is the National Park Award for Nature. The best nature, the nature that screams nature the most. The most natural nature. Most natural nature. Yeah. It could be water. It could be a plant. It could be a brook, an estuary.
Starting point is 01:08:58 The sun. Is the sun competitive? Perchance. While it sort of gleams over a gorgeous forest perchance let's let's see this is an exciting category this is one of the most exciting categories of them all not the biggest category of the night but i think because there's so many competitors i'm going to be really looking forward to seeing what the three nominees are. I think there are some birds that can be double nominees for Best Damn Bird and for the National Park Award for Nature.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Oh, my God. I mean, double nominees. Kenan Thompson found dead. Kenan Thompson and Aidy Bryant found dead. Aidy Bryant found dead in a ditch. We don't want that. That made me sad. We don't want that.
Starting point is 01:09:41 No, live forever, please. Live forever, both of you. Okay. We have a next category. We have a next category. We have a next category. Best Dress. Not a rhyme. A slant rhyme, maybe.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Best in Dress. Almost. This is a different category than Best Dressed. This is... Best Dress. The Best Dress. Of them all. But it's not in the category title.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Because there are some categories, as we know, that have of them all. One of them's coming up. One of them's coming up. But this is just best dress. Best dress. Interpret that how you will, publicist. Things that are not included in this category. Pants.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Pants. Suits. Shorts. Shirts. Hats. Gloves. No. Socks.
Starting point is 01:10:21 Shoes. Flops. No, I don't want to know. None of that. This is best dress. And let's just, I'm going to get really close up on the mic. No skirts. No skirts.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Dress. We have a next category. The Jim and Pam Award for Best Chemistry. Okay. I mean, kind of our generation's, you know, Sam and Diane. Hello. I think this will get a lot of publicists horny i think of chemistry i think it's got to make me horned up i think i have to be watching them and say oh my god
Starting point is 01:10:56 are they gonna by the way let me stop everything right now and say, girl, that I might've been, uh, you know, sort of part of a little table read the other day for a certain script. Can't really say much about it. Cause it hasn't really been announced everyone's participation, but I know you're in a film called fire Island. There was some chemistry popping off between whom, between many of the actors. It's a little bit romantic comedy,
Starting point is 01:11:24 but there's a little bit of a romantic comedy. A romantic comedy. And there's good chemistry. I thought my sisters had some good chemistry with their love interests. Oh. Some fine looking men that the readers may know, and perchance we might even have to have guests on this show. I think we will. And tickle the boys.
Starting point is 01:11:42 It's a room full of gay men. That's kind of fun. And tickle the boys. It's a room full of gay men. That's kind of fun. But like reading... And one iconic Margaret Cho. One iconic bi-con Margaret Cho. Friend of the show. Friend of the pod, famously. Friend of the pod, famously.
Starting point is 01:11:56 So I think... Are you saying that people in this project are competitive in this category? I don't know, Countess Luanne slash Grover. Grover. people in this project are competitive in this category. I don't know. Countess Luann slash Grover. Grover. Um,
Starting point is 01:12:10 uh, we're going to find out. Okay. We're going to find out. Grover is so cute. I love Grover. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:12:18 We have an X category. Okay. Tic-Tac-Toe award for best simple game. This is the Tic-Tac-Toe award for best simple Game. This is the Tic-Tac-Toe Award for Best Simple Game. The best games are the simplest. Absolutely, King. Tetris. Mama, Tic-Tac-Toe. Tic-Tac-Toe.
Starting point is 01:12:33 If Tic-Tac-Toe doesn't win, Connect Four. Connect, I was going to say. I literally, I did the motion to my sister, and he knew immediately what I was saying. Connect Four. That's what I love. You know what's not a simple game? I'm sorry to drag it, but chess.
Starting point is 01:12:45 You have to sit down and learn it. Checkers, simple game. Simple game. Chess. Too many girls doing different things. Yeah. I thought you meant too many girls doing it. I was like, no, that's the whole plot of The Queen's Gambit.
Starting point is 01:13:00 It's not enough girls. Let's just say that. Let's say that. It's rule of culture number 98. Not enough girls in chess. Women in STEM? More women in chess. That's rule of culture number 99.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Women in STEM? More women in chess. We have a next category. Best song on Rent soundtrack. Original Broadway cast recording Or the film movie soundtrack Looks like it's not specified Okay
Starting point is 01:13:29 So I guess we don't know So it could be Rosario Dawson's version of Out Tonight It could be Daphne Rubin Vega's version of Out Tonight And that's actually the binary Yeah That's you're either Rosario Dawson Out Tonight Which is Dionysus
Starting point is 01:13:44 Yes And then or you're Daphne Rubin Vega Which is Dionysus. Yes. And then, or your Daphne Ruben Vega, which is Apollo. I would flip it. Daphne is just so, like, we're sorry to say, Daphne is Mimi. Rosario, an incredible Mimi. I thought she was an amazing Mimi, and here's the reveal. The reason why this is on this list is because I listened to
Starting point is 01:13:59 Rosario Dawson's out tonight, today. It's an amazing out tonight. And she killed it. Mrs. Cory Booker booked that. Booked that. It's an amazing out tonight. And she killed it. Mrs. Cory Booker booked that. Booked that. That's a little culture number 51. Rosario, rent? Mrs. Cory Booker
Starting point is 01:14:12 booked that. I thought for a second you meant, like, you referred to Cory Booker as Mrs. And you said, Cory Booker booked that as in booked that that companion job.
Starting point is 01:14:22 No, Cory Booker is apparently really committed to being a straight icon. Love it. Love that. Love that for her. Special girl. Now, okay, this is great. And I'm sorry, I should say, Rosario is Apollo, because there's such a precision to her Mimi. Yes, and also
Starting point is 01:14:38 she carries with her, I believe, the intelligence. To say nothing of Daphne Rubenvega, but I do believe, it's like, if I'm to stand for a second, Daphne Rubenvega comes I do believe it's like if I'm just stand for a second Daphne Rubenvega comes from here yeah Daphne it's like a pelvic thrust of stage presence like her in the heights fabulous
Starting point is 01:14:53 but it's Dionysus it's Dionysus well her as Mimi is Dionysus because it's just like hey it's like like little sex pat and like and Rosaria's Mimi is more like hey I, I really like you. She's more thoughtful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Whereas Daphne Rubin Vega is more guttural. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And that is an important distinction in the binary. Yes, SpongeBob and then Rosario Squidward. Thank you, thank you. And now we said it. We have a next category. The Brenda Award for name that no one gets named now or going forward.
Starting point is 01:15:28 I, you pitched this category to me and I, my jaw dropped. I was like, he's right. No one is named Brenda now or will ever be named Brenda. Brenda Award for name that no one gets named now or going forward. Brenda Award. I mean, if you had just kept it to Brenda Award, I've been like, wait, like Regina Hall in Scary Movie Brenda?
Starting point is 01:15:49 No, that's not the category. But it's Brenda Award for Name. Oh, wait. I'm like, I'm getting a better idea of what this is. That no one gets named now. Oh, that's right. No one gets named Brenda now or going forward. And that is a premonition. That's a prediction that no one going forward
Starting point is 01:16:05 will be named brenda and that is culture you are making culture thank you we're gonna have more liberties than brenda's for sure i just don't see anyone naming their child brenda no in the year of the lord 2022 now brenda could win this category in a walk but it's really not up to us. It's not up to us. The publicists have to do their thing. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that.
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Starting point is 01:16:48 costumes, we wear fashion. And below deck sailing. You broke the rules and now you're here getting upset. Watch all new seasons on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I'm Cheryl Swoops, WNBA champ, three-time Olympian, and basketball Hall of Famer. I'm a mom and I'm a woman. I'm champ, three-time Olympian, and Basketball Hall of Famer.
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Starting point is 01:18:02 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 01:18:23 Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story,
Starting point is 01:18:54 as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again, and we're gonna welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude,
Starting point is 01:19:14 you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past, and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them. And we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk?
Starting point is 01:19:28 We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dudes. We got dogs. Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak?
Starting point is 01:19:44 Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude? We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We have the next category.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Most important item of clothing. I'm sorry, let me take that again. Do you want to cut around that, Doug? This is just for the reader. I'm sorry, the publicist. Do not cut around, yes. The publicist to know.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Be clear. Most important item of clothing. Now, this is different than best dress because you're working within the category of dress. But this is just to name one item of clothing as a category. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. of dress, but this is just to name one item of clothing as a category. Yeah. Now, here's the thing. The most important item of clothing could be dress.
Starting point is 01:20:35 You know what I mean? Yes. It's not up to us. I think that we have to think about functionality here. We have to think about necessity, but also important in terms of the culture. Yes. You know what I mean? Like there's so many different variables here at play. So it's important is interesting
Starting point is 01:20:52 because you can interpret it as function or aesthetic or something, you know. 100%. This is up to, and it's not up to us. No way. It's up to the publicist. No way. We have next category.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Yes. The Joy Behar award for stand-up comedy I think this is such a perfect way of honoring Joy's legacy in stand-up
Starting point is 01:21:11 you think stand-up comedian you think the greats you think you know Jerry Seinfeld Richard Pryor
Starting point is 01:21:18 Margaret Cho and Joy Behar Joy the four the four Mount Rushmore please the Hogwarts houses of stand-up The Hogwarts houses of stand-up.
Starting point is 01:21:25 The Hogwarts houses of stand-up. Let's assign them. Honey. Seinfeld feels like Slytherin to me. Okay, so it's Seinfeld, Richard Pryor, Margaret Cho, and Joy Behar. Joy Behar's Hufflepuff. She's Hufflepuff down. Margaret is...
Starting point is 01:21:40 Ravenclaw. Margaret is Ravenclaw and Richard Pryor is Gryffindor. That makes total sense. I love it. I really love it. And Jerry Seinfeld is unfortunately Slytherin. We love him,
Starting point is 01:21:48 but he is, I mean, Slytherin is about ambition. It's not about being villainous. There's been amazing Slytherins. Incredible Slytherins. Malfoy's mom. What is her name? I believe her name is...
Starting point is 01:22:04 Narcissa is Narcissa Narcissa Come on Icon Narcissa Narcissa Can I just But can I just say
Starting point is 01:22:12 What? Between Harry Potter And Hunger Games Here we go Those are some stupid ass Fucking names Some of those names Just sound so fucking dumb
Starting point is 01:22:21 Can I say I can't believe One of the most Popular Characters In literature For young adults names sound so fucking dumb can i say i can't believe one of the most popular characters in literature for young adults is named katniss katniss or weiris i mean i'm sorry maybe maybe i'm directing this i mean harry potter turf text for all time but for hunger games i'm like i don't know about some of these names babe girl p Girl, Peta? Peta? Excuse me? Peta Malark? That's made up.
Starting point is 01:22:46 You made that up. That sounds like a Matt Rogers gibberish name. So the other day, I smoked out of a new bowl for the first time. You named the bowl. Yeah, you have to name the bowl. So this is my thing. Once you smoke out of it the first time, you take the first big hit, you exhale, and then you have to name the bowl immediately as it sits in your hands.
Starting point is 01:23:04 And I named the new bowl that Joel bought for me. Thank you, baby. Barbara Trenda. I love it. And that is... Barbara Trenda. B-A-R-B-A-R-A. Not the Barbara Streisand spelling.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Trenda. T-R-E-N-D-A. Barbara Trenda. From District 4. Honey. Like, that is like, whatever. Bestseller. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:24 We have a next category. The Scream by Edward Munch Award for Best Scream. That and that, that painting, you know the painting I'm talking about. Oh, 100%. Open mouthed icon. One of the most iconic screams. I think absolutely. But there are more screams.
Starting point is 01:23:41 There's Scream 1. Scream 2. Scream 3. Scream 4. more screams there's scream one scream two scream three scream four it can be even like an audible scream like you know um uh fucking oh you've never you've never seen hereditary i will not see her but can i but can i the scream that um miss vera miss miss vera no hereditary hereditary oh no no no oh god wow that's no, no, no. Oh, God. Wow. We'll cut around. No, literally don't.
Starting point is 01:24:06 No, I'm sorry. I take responsibility for this. It's Toni Collette. I'm sorry. Yes. But, you know, I can't, to have Vera Farmiga energy isn't a bad thing.
Starting point is 01:24:13 It escaped me. She's iconically the other one, Conjuring. Yes. Yes. For Toni Collette's scream, Toni Collette's scream in a certain part of that movie
Starting point is 01:24:22 after something happens at night yeah in the morning when she discovers what has happened yes an iconic scream and I think you should actually watch the movie for that alone I have heard what it is and I think I can actually watch it because kind of so we'll just pause this for a second and say the other night readers we actually watched the Suicide Squad we enjoyed it we enjoyed it we had a really fun time it's one of the most insanely graphic films i've ever seen but it was all like pulp stylized it was like it was very like it was a little tarantino sorry to bring him up but it was a little tarantino it was pretty like um wild violence your colleague pete davidson got his face blown off and i was in the bathroom when that happened
Starting point is 01:25:01 i'm sorry yeah you missed it you missed you missed that i'm sorry, Pete. I missed it. Yeah, you missed that. I'm sorry. Aw. But Pete getting his face blown off is very Chad. It's very like... Yeah. We love Pete for getting killed. And this isn't really a spoiler, you all. It happens like very quickly. Right, right. And if, anyway, if you care about spoilers for Super The Squad Squad and you're like
Starting point is 01:25:17 listening to this podcast, I can't really help you. We have a next category. We have a next category. Best Google service. Gmail, Maps, Drive, YouTube. Honoring Google. Honoring Google. We have a next category.
Starting point is 01:25:35 Best Google search. Porn. How do you tie a tie? When was Kristen Chenoweth born? House of Gucci trailer when? Were you Googling that before the trailer dropped? Yeah. West Side Story trailer when?
Starting point is 01:25:59 Before the Oscars, you Googled West Side Story. Hugh Jackman height. Hugh Jackman height when? Like, you Googled West Side Story. Hugh Jackman height. Hugh Jackman height when? Like, you know. Jill Kim booster age. We have a next category. Best Apple product of them all. This is an of them all category.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Interesting. Interesting. One of the more interesting categories. Apple has had many products. AirPods. MacBook Air. You know. interesting one of the more interesting categories apple has had many products airpods macbook air um you know uh uh apple juice the original like remember apple juice yes um remember the remember like the colored like max imax that you that we would have in elementary school. Yes. Yes. Do you remember when they came out with iPod video? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:26:53 That was a moment in culture. That was literally a moment in culture. And I remember my friend Allison Coelho had one, and she'd bring it to art, and we would watch wonder shows and clips on it. Oh, my God. Wow. Take me back to that time.
Starting point is 01:27:06 The click wheel. The tactile ness of the click wheel. We have a next category. WandaVision Award for Television. This is an award that honors TV. This award should be given to the program,
Starting point is 01:27:30 performer, um moment that changed television for the better in the vein of wandavision revolutionary never before seen um not afraid to reference not afraid to reference or not reference i think there i think this is a really important award. This is one of the most important awards of the night because it honors... Everyone in television is competing for the WandaVision Award for television. Yeah, and there's no higher praise.
Starting point is 01:27:56 We're both competitive in this. I think we're both really competitive in this. You probably maybe even a little bit more than me. I don't think so. Watch this space watch this space view force coming september 2nd i can i say something actually about about the publicists yeah i'm gonna put the publicists on notice okay i'll hold on hold on to your fucking seats slash butts jurassic park not a lot of publicists campaigning for
Starting point is 01:28:22 me or Matt. Especially in categories where we're competitive. Funniest gay man, outstanding reality competition host. A lot of people are being all twee and being like, they should win best friend. I can tell you right now, I won't. Don't be twee. Don't be fresh.
Starting point is 01:28:39 I don't want to hear it. Don't be twee. I just want, I just encourage the publicists, if you feel like we, we qualify for a category and that we would have a shot at winning, we would like to be included. I would just like to be included. Is that so much to ask?
Starting point is 01:28:55 I would just like to be nominated. Maybe we'll have, maybe you and I will lead the nominations. As opposed to someone else. As opposed to someone else as opposed to someone else or something else so we're gonna do
Starting point is 01:29:07 another episode where we do where we do nominees I think the nominees will be revealed on the show did we not
Starting point is 01:29:13 on the show where we announced the winners I think this should be a different I think this should be a different okay I guess
Starting point is 01:29:18 there is gonna be another episode which is the nominees that will be huge it will be one of the biggest episodes of Lost Culture. We have our next category.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Victoria Beckham Award for Outstanding Achievement. This is, of course, in reference to her Spoke 73 questions. Matt, you do it so well. I don't know. He asked, like, what do you think of people who love your performance in Spice World? I thought it was amazing, and I'm still waiting for my Outstanding Achievement Award. This is, in that spirit, that award. And this is just an award for Outstanding Achievement.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Yeah, Victoria Beckham Award for Outstanding Achievement. We don't say the medium. No. We wouldn't. We didn't say it. It's for Outstanding Achievement. Anyone that's achieved an Out outstanding thing is eligible for this we have a next category
Starting point is 01:30:08 best neighborhood New York mama there's many neighborhoods in New York that make up the great city of New York yes only one will win watch this space we have a next category
Starting point is 01:30:21 best neighborhood Los Angeles oh my god sprawling metropolis different vibe We have a next category. Best neighborhood, Los Angeles. Oh my God. A sprawling metropolis. Different vibes, different feelings, different activities. It's a conversation that we could have and we have had. Definitively though, we're sort of taking a very close look at the city of Los Angeles and asking the publicist, what's the best neighborhood? Is it Los Feliz? Is it Silver Lake's the best neighborhood? Is it Los Feliz?
Starting point is 01:30:45 Is it Silver Lake? Is it downtown? Is it Glendale? Is it Glendale? Is it Koreatown? Does the Grove count as a neighborhood? I feel like I am in the most wonderful neighborhood when I'm at the Grove. So I would say yes, the Grove is competitive. Is it Larchmont? Is it Hancock Park? Is it Beverly Hills? Is it Universal Studios Hollywood? Watch this space. Watch this space. We have an X category.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Best Neighborhood, Dallas-Fort Worth. You didn't see this one coming. There is going to be a winner. We don't know which one. We're not quite familiar with this. We just think that the Dallas-Fort Worth area should be acknowledged. And so often it gets lost in the conversation between New York and L.A. And it really is the third city.
Starting point is 01:31:41 It's the third girl. It's the third girl. It's like Bowen, Matt, Sooty. You know what I mean? I'm Los Angeles. You are New York. And Sooty is Dallas-Fort Worth. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:56 She would agree. Summer of Cunt 4? 4. Coming soon. Coming very soon. We have a next category. We have a next category. Chris Award for Most Timeless Name.
Starting point is 01:32:08 The name Chris, Christopher Tofer, has withstood the test of time. There have been Christophers, Chris's, since the beginning. Since the beginning. Christ? Hmm. Think about it. Interesting. It includes Chris.
Starting point is 01:32:22 I don't make the rules at all. And so this is an award that honors another name, maybe a name, maybe also Chrisris i don't make the rules at all and so this is an award that honors another name maybe a name maybe also chris we don't know but a name that is just as timeless if not more and it should be more than chris if chris chris is the example is the blueprint you could say but oh honey you better believe that one of these names out there does it even better. Builds the building. The foundation. Yes. Period.
Starting point is 01:32:48 Period. And that's on period. We have a next category. Best video game moment. Countless moments have made up video game history. Aerith Gainsborough getting killed by Sephiroth. Spoiler alert, sorry. When Mario jumps.
Starting point is 01:33:06 When Peach screams Mario. Donkey Kong. Out of a barrel. Out of a barrel. And into our hearts. Tetris. That moment when the pieces connect. When someone gets shot on Grand Theft Auto. when someone gets shot in goldeneye when someone gets
Starting point is 01:33:30 shot in a playful way in any of the mini games in mario party oh my god they're doing like a mario party release with like all the greatest games we have play. We need to play soon with Pat. I'm just going to say, Pat is sort of iconically our third Mario Party girl. We've only checked that video. I want you to, yes. You need to keep saying Mario because you're from Long Island. Am I saying Mario now? Mario. You have to stick to Mario.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Okay. Was I saying Mario? I think for a second there you said Mario Party. No, don't lose that. Don't lose that. Don't lose that part of you. No, I won't like, no, don't lose that. Don't lose that. Don't lose that part of you. No, I won't.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Kiddo, don't lose that. Who said that? Don't lose that part of you. Hold it tight. I don't know. It's probably a lot of people. Yeah. We have the next category.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Dragon Award for Animal We're Not Sure is Real. I'm still not sure about dragons. They might exist. They might be real. They might not be. I just don't. I can't say for sure. Sabertooth tigers are up in here. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Woolly mammoths. I haven't seen them. The dodo bird. Not sure these are real. Zapdos. Pokemon are included in this. Yeah, Pokemon are included. If you have to feed it and care for it it's included and oh if
Starting point is 01:34:47 you if you've ever played generation 2 onward you know you gotta feed and care for the pokemon let's keep going in this category vanilla coke award for what happened to that is this for something explain talk about this this is for something that we're not really sure what happened to that like there was no reason for vanilla coke to go away actually was the best coke like people seem to like it um i had a many many vanilla cokes in that time period of my life where it was readily available to us and then suddenly one day i have to find myself sort of asking the question, what happened to that? So this is the Vanilla Coke Award for what happened to that? I'm unsure of the answer, and we're not going to answer the question here,
Starting point is 01:35:33 but we definitely have to honor the one thing that is missing. Can I ask you something? Yeah. Let's say you're at an AMC theater. Okay, I'm there. And you're going up to that giant soda machine, the big red one with the touchscreen. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:51 One of my favorite things to do. And one of my favorite machines to interact with. If you tap vanilla, if you tap the vanilla syrup into your Coke, is it, to me, that's not quite the same as ordering just vanilla, bottled vanilla Coke. It's not. And I want to thank you for bringing that up. Thank you for saying that.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Because I would never pretend. Because sort of what's happening in that machine, I believe they're called magical Coke boxes. Magical Coke boxes. Magical soda box. Magical soda box. Is you're sort of getting like the runoff
Starting point is 01:36:27 of the other flavors yes you know what I mean you can never purely get what you want so if I'm to step to that
Starting point is 01:36:34 magical soda box as I call them and I believe is the official name I'm going to Dr. Pepper vanilla which I know is counterintuitive
Starting point is 01:36:44 because there's already a vanilla moment in Dr. Pepper but I want all the vanilla I'm this kind Dr. Pepper vanilla which I know is counterintuitive because there's already a vanilla moment in Dr. Pepper but I want all the vanilla I'm this kind of girl, vanilla girl I just don't like that they've I just, I want someone I want someone in a factory or a machine in a factory to put the exact right
Starting point is 01:37:00 amount of vanilla flavor into this Coke It's just, it wasn't as God intended Mr. Coke I don't think the magical soda exact right amount of vanilla flavor into this Coke. It's just, it wasn't as God intended. The magical Coke. Mr. Coke. Mr. Coke. The Coke bear. I don't think the magical soda boxes are doing it right. They're not.
Starting point is 01:37:11 They're not. If the Coke bear were to walk into the AMC and see this and taste it, he would say no. He'd roll over in his grave. And the Coke bear's been dead for years. We have the next category. Best Taylor Swift. Pretty self-explanatory taylor swift singer songwriter icon icon performer performer poet poet lyricist lyricist uh pop star guitar player guitarist acoustic guitar player acoustic guitarist um sometimes actress a best a best song
Starting point is 01:37:43 a best moment a best music video. It could be anything. We have a next category. Best Taylor Swift. Pretty self-explanatory. Taylor Swift. Disruptor. Pop bitch. Siren.
Starting point is 01:37:55 Siren. Iconic glancer. Iconic glancer. Iconic stomper. Supermodel. White girl stomp. Enthusiast. Electrical guitarist.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Award show attendee. Fashion girl. Feuder. Feuder. Notes app legend. Notes app icon. Twitterer. Instagram.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Riddler. Riddler. Riddler. She. Is riddler is riddler taylor or taylor i'm sorry riddler is when she does like the liner notes and she like you know like makes the little puzzle when she's like Riddler stuff? Is she doing that barefoot in the park for art, or is she disrupting lives? I don't think we can answer it today. I don't think we can answer it today.
Starting point is 01:38:57 The publicist might want to chime in. We have a next category. Best time. There are how many times during the day? Thousands. Thousands of times. And thousands of times when things happen. This is the best time when something happens.
Starting point is 01:39:17 This is one of the best categories. Do you think? This is not limited to things that have time that's already happened this could be time that hasn't happened in the future it could be and i'm just throwing this out 7 30 p.m or it could be dusk it could be best time like the time we did something yes time that's this is one of the most i i'm i've done i'm still talking about best time this is one of the most exciting categories because now going forward we have the opportunity to have our entire readership whenever it's a certain time they celebrate it's the best time of the day time that during that 60 second
Starting point is 01:39:56 period or that second period oh my god you know what i mean they, they'll have to, they'll have to celebrate. We are creating a holiday. Oh my God. You're so right. We're now at the hundredth category. This is the final category. And that doesn't mean anything. No. But it's pretty mage.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Very mage. Very mage. We have a last category. Artist of the millennium. This, the 21st, oh, the second millennium.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Oh no, no, no, we're in the third millennium. We are in one of the millennium this the 21st oh the second millennium oh no no we're in the third millennium we are in one of the later millenniums yeah we're in the third we're in the third millennium because there was zero to thousand thousand to two thousand two thousand to now going forward this is artist of the millennium this is i i'm reading this as a reference to when britney Spears presented Michael Jackson with the Teen Choice Award or the People's Choice Award. I believe it was a VMA. It was the VMA.
Starting point is 01:40:50 Yes, that's right. Artist of the Millennium. Well, it was for an award that was just like career achievement or something. And then she said, I consider him to be the Artist of the Millennium.
Starting point is 01:41:01 And then he said, to be receiving the Artist of the Millennium Award. Wow, I never thought this would happen. And it didn't. And receiving the Artist of the Millennium Award. Wow, I never thought this would happen. And it didn't. And it didn't. But it will now. It will now.
Starting point is 01:41:09 We are righting the wrongs of that time for both Brittany and Michael Jackson. So now the publicists know all the categories. And we need to find out from you
Starting point is 01:41:20 what deserves to be nominated. So the next time we do an episode and it's the nominations, no one feels sad that they didn't work hard enough. And it'll be three nominees. What'd you say? That sentence meant nothing.
Starting point is 01:41:36 No, I knew what you meant. Is it going to be three nominees for each category? Yes, it will. It will. I can confirm. So this has now become an even more... The nominations will be announced. And the nominations, I don't think we can continue to one episode.
Starting point is 01:41:53 We'll have 300 things to name. I think it's amazing. I think we're gonna do it. I think we just do. You know what we do, Bowen? We literally do an episode which is just the nominations and we don't talk at all. That's not gonna be possible yes it is there will be shocking moments
Starting point is 01:42:11 that we have to discuss and we have to predict the winner Bowen when they announce the Emmys do they stop after every category when there's something shocking and they go oh my god wait let's talk about that no it's the nominations announcement it's a part of awards season you know it's true but we'll say
Starting point is 01:42:25 Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang officially announced to announce the nominations of the Las Colteristas Culture Awards. Do you think there will be any space or another allotment of time for us to talk about the race nomination? That will be another episode.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Okay. The Culture Awards is not happening until December. Are we prepared to say that? Are we prepared to say that the awards will not, the ceremony will not be until December 2021? That this
Starting point is 01:42:58 is a five-month campaign for a single award show. They're happening in October. I don't know when they're happening. We still don't know when they're happening. But, suffice to say, the next episode will be the nominees.
Starting point is 01:43:14 The next episode? Oh, not next week. No! We gotta have Jan on. We gotta do Summer of Con. We gotta do Summer of Con. We gotta bring on... Oh my god. Dave Holmes is coming on the show in September. We're very excited. We're having Natasha Rothwell on the show. We're very excited. A lot of fun guests coming up.
Starting point is 01:43:29 So, well, thank you so much for being on this journey. I do have to go. And so I think. No, we will not be doing it. I don't think so,
Starting point is 01:43:35 We won't be doing it. I don't think so, honey. But publicists, now we, I will be posting the full, we will both be posting the full list of nominees. This is so exciting.
Starting point is 01:43:43 I am really thrilled. This, these categories are so tough. And they will be hard fought. I don't disagree, witch. We now, of course, end every episode with an amazing song. I was five and he was six. We rode on the horses made of sticks.
Starting point is 01:44:05 He wore black and I wore white. He would always win the fight. Bang, bang. He shot me down. Bang, bang. I hit the ground. Bang, bang. That awful sound. Bang, bang.
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