Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Herpes Simplex I" (w/ Rae Sanni)

Episode Date: August 23, 2017

Bitch, this episode is going to ruin you. RUIN YOU! That’s how GOOD! The BRILLIANT Rae Sanni (The President Show) joins Matt & Bowen in studio to talk about how little of a shit their parents give about their COMEDY success, the perks of dating YOUNGER and DUMBER men, the stereotypes learned from Mad TV, Elizabeth Moss’s PERPLEXING defense of Scientology, the cultural IMPACT of RECESS & PEPPER ANN, and much more, mama!! It’s stuffed with all the DISH you’ll need for the week! Don’t you forget to rate, review, and SUBSCRIBE on ITUNES! Remember that the stats matter. THE STATS MATTER!LAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasCONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASThttp://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Aiko aiko ande Jagamo fino anane Jagamo fino ane Ding dong Las Culturistas calling. And we're calling with an important message. Hello. Hello, this is Las Culturistas, and today we've got a bomb-ass guest. It's a bomb-ass guest.

Not it. I mean, look, the pronouns don't matter here. No, they matter. They matter, but in this instance, I would say that our guest doesn't care for the pronoun. You would say that this guest is bigger than pronouns? No, not bigger than pronouns. Let me tell you something,

Bowen. You're walking into some thorny shit. You were getting into some thorny shit, bitch. Look, I used the pronoun it and it's a bomb-ass guest applies. It's a bomb-ass guest applies. It's a bomb-ass guest today. Okay, let's go through the credits.

Yeah, sure. She's got credits, boots, the house down. Boots, boots, boots. Boots, boots, boots. Guys, listen to her amazing, amazing podcast. I love this podcast. It's so smart, funny, irreverent. It's so great.

Smart like a whip. Smart like a whip. It's called Miss Andri, co-hosted by our favorite queen, Marsha Belsky. And can I tell you something? Yes. The other day, I was in a photograph with Marsha, Dylan Maron, and Nicole Silverberg. And the four of us were in a picture together, and we all wore different primary colors. I saw. I saw.

And guess what? It was not planned, but the picture is hell yeah. Yeah, the picture is hell yeah. You need the pic. You need the pic. Check it out on Facebook or Insta. Dot com.

You can also see our guest on Girl Code, on the MTV Discover channel, on Snapchat. Yeah, swipe up. Swipe up, and she's giving you, you know, person in front of a green screen realness. Person in front of a green screen

spilling tea and giving jokes realness. Yes, for your nerves. And that's a skill. That's a skill. That's a skill. Because we've tried it. It's tough. How many times did we fuck up?

We fuck up all the fucking time. Maybe sometimes we don't even make the final cut. Oh, that's true. That's true. You know what? I've lost some gold on the cutting room floor, honey. They thought, let's get Bowen Yang and Matt Rodgers from Mouse Culture Racist and put him on screen.

No, bitch. No. What you don't know about us is our faces are disgusting. They're disgusting. And she writes for the phenomenal President Show with Anthony Otamanek. Oh, this show. This show is so goddamn good. It entertains it in forms.

It's artful. It's so artful. We'll talk about this later. It shocks. It shocks. And she was a New Faces for Just for Laughs for the Stand Up New Faces Showcase. God, she's just phenomenal. Just such a smart, sage person. She goes, those make me feel like I have something going on. Well, she does have something going on. And her

name is Ray Sonny! You guys are so niceny you guys are so nice you guys are so nice that was like the nicest and the coolest description of anything I do let me tell you something there's a person in front of a green screen

who ran this and let me tell you it's because it's reality it's because it's reality those are your real credits I know it's crazy unveiled for the first time I never like

thought about it like that because my mama still know I ain't shit Yeah yeah She calls you And she says Hi um Can you do something With your fucking insurance

My mom has been like Um you need to change Your insurance And she calls me And she doesn't care That I was once In a Comedy Central video Yeah

She doesn't As a background extra Bless up to the parents Who don't give a shit What we do And don't These I mean

Whatever things We've amassed in the last few years mean nothing to them, and they keep us grounded. It's rule number 51 of culture. Your parents don't care. Oh my God. It's so real. Like, she cares because I can see a doctor now.

Yes. Because I couldn't see a doctor for so long before. Yes, thank you, Writers Guild. Right? And, but yeah, Writer's Guild. Right? But yeah, she's just like, okay, you can see a doctor. Oh, you can buy me dinner.

Yes. Great. These are the markers. These are the markers of success. That's why I hit up all my guild friends. Exactly. For meals. Meals. Medications. You don't understand. Sometimes I do hit them up for antibiotics oh that's nice I'll be like

you got it in my eyes one time I one time I offered you extra Vicodin not Vicodin I'm so sorry one time I offered you you offered me

extra amoxicillin that belonged to your roommate that's hilarious what we got third hand illegal drugs yes and then he and then

I'll just say Mike Spence Mike Spence your roommate didn't understand that he was getting his stocked up antibiotics stolen from him to come to me. Well, I asked him. I was like, can Matt have these?

And he said, yeah, sure. He gave you a passive aggressive answer. He did, but I still campaigned hard for you. You did. You did. But also, like, passive aggressive, no, ain't going to work if your friend's about to die. Yeah, exactly. You can't roll your eyes and you're like, I guess.

It's like, okay, it's a life or death situation. And you know, every time I'm even mildly sick, it's a life or death situation. And here's the thing, and I was talking about this before we hit record. Matt is dealing with a lot of canker sores right now. Do you want to talk about this? So many. Okay, so you guys, I've been through a stressful time. And I don't know what it is.

And so before I said to Ray I was like I'm dealing with a canker sore right now because Ray and I just came from a show I'll plug it

we came from the above average showcase Ray did stand up I did some characters and I said to her before I was like I'm about to go up there

and I have a canker sore the size of a nickel on my lips right now and she's like well you can't see it and I immediately jumped in and was like no no no it's not a cold sore they're canker sore that has a nickel on my lips right now. And she's like, well, you can't see it. And I immediately jumped in and was like, no, no, no. It's not a cold sore.

It's a canker sore. They're canker sores. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because canker sores isn't herpes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cold sores is herpes. I have the cold sore herpes. You have the herpes. You have HPV1.

Yes, I have. Herpes simplex virus 1. Yes. Yes. I mean, I'm a woman. I have HPV. Yeah, right. I'm a woman. Right. Apparently, I have herpes simplex virus 1. Yeah. I have. I mean, I'm a woman. I have HPV. Yeah, right.

Apparently I have herpes simplex virus one. Yeah. But so does everyone. Your cold sores don't show up? They never have, ever. Oh my gosh. I think I've been getting cold sores every other fall. Since I'm like nine years old. That's fine. You guys should both be lucky that you don't have herpes zoster, which I have, which is just the shingles

virus. What? No, you know I never had chicken pox and I don't have herpes zoster, which I have, which is just the shingles virus. What? You know I never had chicken pox, and I don't have shingles. So you're in the clear, I think. My dad got shingles though when he was like 40. See, no. Shingles you get if you did have the chicken pox virus, and it's dormant and then it springs up again.

So that's what that is. So if you didn't have chicken pox growing up, then you're fine. But what about this? What about when they say that if you didn't have chicken pox growing up, then you're fine. But what about this? Okay. What about when they say that if you didn't have chicken pox as a child, actually, that's not so good because if you get it as an adult, it could be very painful. Well, I got a vaccine. So I think it's just like... Oh, yeah, the vaccine. I think the vaccine kind of was just like...

But, you know, everybody says get the chicken pox when you're young so you don't have shingles when you grow up. But I didn't have it. But you do still have shingles when you grow up but i mean you do still have shingles when you grew up that's the thing it's it's dormant so anyway you've had shingles i had shingles like old wives tales then i think so yeah i mean that's not medically i don't think that's that's correct so anyway mad is dealing with canker sores yeah monday so bad and i get i get a breakout when i get stressed so sunday night he tells me this and i go, well, I have this amazing Chinese herbal remedy that I swear by that I've been using since I was like in high school that my mom, you know, procures from like the shitty Chinatown pharmacies for me. And I'll bring it with me tomorrow. And I began to look forward to that.

Well, tomorrow was yesterday. And so you did not. I brought it with I was it was on my person yesterday, but we didn't end up meeting yesterday so then today you're like i really need it can you bring it to the recording i go i don't have it but we can we can go back to my place but i still i had a little bit of time to kill before i came here so i went on this sojourn in chinatown for my bitch right here matt rogers and I was embarrassing myself to all these nasty, nasty, dour shopkeeps. Oh, no. And I said, do you have watermelon frost?

It's what it's called. It's called ciguazuang. Oh, chic. It's watermelon frost. That sounds elegant. Sounds like a salad they would make on Top Chef. Watermelon frost sounds like someone would call their met ball out, bitch.

Oh, yes. Watermelon frost. It's the theme for next year. Did you hear what I just said? Sounds like what someone would call their met ball outbitch. Oh, yes. Watermelon frost. It's the theme for next year. Did you hear what I just said? Sounds like what someone would call their met ball outbitch. That's the canker sore. But I understood.

It turned your F into a whole B. A whole B. It gave me a whole other consonant sound. Outbitch. Outbitch. Outbitch. I went through so many fucking shops

and I was like, you know me, I see you guys swung. And they said, which means, I don't know, which was a lie. They're lying. They're assholes.

They didn't want to open up again. Exactly. And I was like, well, all the pharmacies are closed around. Like the shitty Chinatown pharmacies were all closed. What time? They closed at like six. It's nonsense.

Like how do you expect people to get their, how do you expect business to do it? I never understand when a service provider of any kind has daytime hours. Yes. I know that that sounds crazy, but doctors should always work evenings and nights. Yes. Who's going to see it? Like, you can't see a doctor during the day.

Because every bitch is at work. Yes. Every bitch is at work. And pediatricians, I guess. No, but even then, it's like the kids are at school. Yes. And also, kids every bitch is at work. Yes. Every bitch is at work. And pediatricians I get. No, but even then it's like the kids are at school. Yes. And also kids always get sick at night. Yeah.

They always wake up in the middle of the night, hot as shit, screaming, crying. Ugh. You need pediatricians. You do. On call. On call. What is it about that? Why do you get most sick at night time?

Because maybe you're resting, your immune system is sort of in a lull, and then you're more susceptible to... I don't know, maybe we have some doctors out there that are listening to us. Is your, you know, for all you aliens and old people still use PCs, when your phone

or computer is charging, is that when you get viruses? Oh. Hmm. Wow. We've got to figure out if your system's charging. We must know if there's a connection here. Anybody out there who still has an Android phone, let us know.

Let us know. Right. Now, I have to ask you about your voice. Did you have a fun night or something? I don't know this story. What's going through? Okay, I don't know this story. I'm dying to hear.

She's choosing what she wants to share. Yeah, because, okay, so I'm going to be 30 in December. Yes. I was just telling this to Matt on the way here. I'm going to be 30 in December. And, you know, I'm like all feminist and career oriented. And I'm like, I don't like need kids right now. I don't need a partner right now. I'm like all feminist and career oriented and I'm like I don't like need kids right now yeah I don't need a partner right now I'm super single and uh and but like I'm gonna

be 30 and I don't know it just hit me like two weeks ago like oh my god yeah it's like I don't even I couldn't even think of a man that I would ever be like, yeah, my kid can have half your DNA. But suddenly it was so important that there's nobody out there that I would feel good enough to share a kid with. What was the, sorry for lack of a better word, what was the trigger for that? It literally was like, oh, we were on break from work for two weeks, so I had a lot of booze in bed by myself. Sure, so just thoughts wandering. Just my brain was like, you know, what do you want to do before 30? we were on break from work for two weeks. So I, I had a lot of booze in bed by myself. Sure. So just thoughts, just my brain was like,

you know, what do you want to do before 30? And then it was like, suddenly have a kid. Oh my God. What is that? I don't know. I think it's something like that.

Like, unfortunately, like it's like kicks evolution. It kicks in with women. Like, Hey, have you thought about having a kid? Because your body's thinking about it.

And it was like, and you know, and milestones shouldn't't matter but they do for some reason yeah yeah yes so uh so i like i i was seeing somebody until recently but he moved away so the situation ended and i've been doing some kind of like well there's no one in new york i want so i just text him him to make myself feel better. And really quickly, would you willingly have your kid have half his DNA or no? He's really hot, so yeah. Okay, cool, then yeah. And he's really smart.

Great. Literally, the only problem is distance. Yeah, okay, great. Check, check. And he's young and a doctor. Okay, boy. He wants to be like a young, hot doctor in you know I still like you know do my ego stroke in texting with him and I'm like first of all he's younger than I am and

it's like it's like find somebody that makes you feel fuckable in New York. And so I spotted another young boy. I think I'm going to decide to be a cougar. I think that's my sweet spot. Yeah, I see that. Because I'm just, older dudes have worn me out, and there's a confidence I feel talking to a man who's still taller but dumber than me. Yes, yes, yes.

It's great. That applies to most men for you, though. Most men are than you well that's part of the concern part of the concern i know this is gonna sound terrible but no guys just really quickly ray is just a fucking genius brilliant first time i met her i was like oh my god who the fuck is this she just like gives you the truth and at the showgasm you hosted yeah Yeah. You guys were in the green room. I sat down and I was like, listening. Who is this? Yeah, anyway.

Okay, so... So, yeah, like, I'm... Also, I should just say I've been fortunate enough to go to very good schools. And so I'm already like, there are not enough of those guys. Yeah. Who meet, like, a basic level of intellect. Can I ask? Okay. I'm sorry,

I keep cutting in. Would you prefer an Ivy League guy or no? I don't know if I prefer an Ivy League guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think it's one of those things

that are also residual in your brain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there was, you know, I didn't finish school. I want to be clear. I'm a dropout,

a proud one. Still went to an Ivy League. I did go to an Ivy League and then I'm on, I've been on mental health leave for seven years yeah come through come on break come on break come on long break yes that's like i've got to prove self-care i almost went back like comedy was not going well and i almost went back but one of the stipulations

is that I have to see a psychiatrist for a full year oh which is fine no well I ain't going on a psych

like I'm a broke comedian which would mean psychiatrist for a year anyway so so yeah yeah I want like

this guy is twice Ivy League like the second one was med school. Young black dude. And like, you know, I like I. So when I had that and I was like, oh, my God, I wasn't like in love with him or anything. I was like, oh, my God, I'm not going to meet this again.

He's woke game with feminism, understands trans issues, not socially only, but medically as well. That's huge. Huge. And like, you know, I just was like, I'm not going to do better than that. Which isn't necessarily true. Which isn't necessarily true, but it started to feel true. Yeah, the feeling is valid. And so we're like two months out of our situation at this point.

And I'm still texting him like last week, you know, just to stroke my ego. And I was like, oh, God, I'm an unfuckable bitch. I actually texted him that. I was like, I'm sorry that I keep texting you at 3 a.m. I'm just having time alone with my brain and I'm worried. And he was like totally cool about it. But so then I tried to hit on some other young boy and I totally fucked it up. Like totally.

So I was like, ugh. Her text game fucked it up. Her text game fucked it up. Oh, okay. And so I was like, damn, I can't even finesse 25-year-olds. Like, what's good? So I was feeling bad about myself and then I like decided that I was going to go out every night from like Thursday and look as good as I possibly could.

So I wore dresses, skirts. I put on lots of makeup and stuff. I showered maybe twice a day during that four-day period. And so we were on hiatus from work for two weeks. This is where all the booze in bed happened. Yes. And then. You had the room.

Exactly. So then I go to a party, like a little gathering on Sunday night and it ends at 930. I'm like, OK, you're in a responsible dough who is working in the morning. Go back to work. But then my co-host, I mean, go back to go back to bed. And but then my co-host was at a comedy show back to bed. But then my co-host was at a comedy show. Miss Marsha. Marsha. And she was at a fun comedy show. She was like,

oh, the lineup's really good. Come hang. So I just hopped in an Uber. I was like, yeah. I'm not finished with this dress. Exactly. I love that. My eyeshadow was popping. My hair was good. So I go out and I just keep drinking.

There was, like, a little dance party after the show. And this, like, gorgeous British tourist just comes up to me. And he, like, he starts, he's a young, I'm like, he's even, oh, God, he's 23. Whatever. And he, like, he comes up to me with stupid game you know that 23 year old he's like

like is this your favorite bar around here like where do you like to go this is my Leeds accent

and she described it as a Jon Snow accent wasn't even like a posh accent it was like a Harry Styles type accent yeah basically

and so I was like never say that again. You are so corny. But you're really handsome. You said that to him? Yes. Great.

That's what him being 23 did to me. I would never, if he was 30, I'd have been like. Yes. Charmed. Yeah. So I was like, never say that again. And he was white. He also said something about, you know, I've never been with a black girl before.

And I was like, never say that again. I felt very in control of the situation. People who are dumber than you. Yes. And so he was cute enough. He sent his friend away. We made out a little bit at the bar. And we go home.

We hop in an Uber and we go to my house. And I'm like, Rafa, you have work in the morning. This is this past Sunday. This is like, hello, 48 hours ago. So like I didn't realize that, you know, because you're at a bar, you got to talk over music. Yeah. And you know, and then there's sex noises and stuff so here we are there are those so here we are this is a 5 a.m voice i love this rasp it's someone who's been

awake till five i said sometimes though it doesn't matter what reason says like uh-oh lights went off again this is happening okay well sometimes it doesn't really matter what reason says. Uh-oh. Lights went off again. This has been happening. Well, sometimes it doesn't really matter what reason says. It's just like, you must get your body to the place it needs to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this person was handsome and dumb and young, and they were there. Uh-huh.

And so there you go. You carry through. And now that's beautiful. I think the latest booty call I ever did was a 5 a.m.er, and he didn't get there until 5 a.m. And I was 24, and he was 19. What was he doing so high? He was just like...

Drunk with his friends. And yeah, he came over, and he was so drunk. And it was in my old Park Slope apartment. And I was just like, I couldn't believe. He said he was so drunk. Yeah. And it was in my old Park Slope apartment. Yes. And I was just like, I couldn't believe. He said he was coming over at 2. And then at 5 a.m. rolled around and he finally showed up. And I was like, I honestly don't want you here anymore. But you got like a perfect little body.

That's on him for showing up that way. Yeah, three hours is more like. It's crazy. I wouldn't keep you up till five. See, but the thing is, it wasn't even a possibility of me being like, hey, don't come over anymore because he was like,

I'm on my way the whole time. The whole time. That's bullshit. And I was like, okay. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. But anyway, I mean, you know what we should get to? Yes, the question.

We need to ask Ray the question we ask all of our guests, which is, Ray, what is the culture that made you into the person that you are? So at a formative age, this is the culture that entered your life, whether it be movies, television, where you grew up, whatever, that made you become the Ray that you are today.

It made you say, hmm, culture might be for me. Man, I... the way that you are today, it made you say, hmm, culture might be for me. Man. I... Could be a book, a text. Like a text as in like a work of text. Or a text. Or a text message. That you get from a friend.

Okay, this is kind of embarrassing. Say it. When I was in 12th grade, when I was like 17, or maybe 11th grade, so it would have been 16, but we read a book called The Unbearable Lightness of Being. Okay. 12th grade when I was like 17 or maybe 11th grade so would have been 16 but we read a book called

The Unbearable Lightness of Being in our Lit and Philosophy class and I read it every year until I was like 22 but I read it for the wrong reasons like I read it like oh my god

indulge in all of your feelings. Like, I was like, I'm Teresa. I'm her. And I'm going to indulge in all my feelings and dump them on everybody else. And so I was like annoying and an emo for like, you know, I'm probably still annoying and emo, but I like, it's embarrassing, but I also am very grateful because I came,

my parents are Nigerian Muslim immigrants, you know, there's a lot of like, not taking your emotional self seriously. There's a lot of go to school, we got hard work to do, toughen up,

suck it up, you know? Yep, yes, I get that, I get that. And like, so, school we got hard work to do toughen up suck it up you know and um and like so i think that was the first time i let myself in a real way indulge in as in how emo i actually am yes and uh and you know i was also old enough to articulate for my mom why it's okay that I'm more emotional than everybody else in the family and like my mom is learning super late now but like she's learning how to be indulgent herself too because she doesn't have to be our mom anymore because my youngest sister is 25

oh great so like oh I fuck someone younger than my sister the realization comes in oh I've done that 17 times over at this point. Whatever. Bone dude's older than my sister, so it's all relative. That's true. It could go either way. But yeah, so that like-

Unbearable lightness of being. Yeah, and that's, you know, maybe I'll give that to my mom to read one day. We're Teresas. I earned it from you. There you go. Okay, that is, this is so funny and it's so appropriate that that is the most intellectual answer

we've ever had on this show. 100%. No, it's not embarrassing. No, and I'm so glad because I am just, like, getting back in touch with this side of me. Because I also took philosophy in high school, and it was my sixth subject in IB, which is this esoteric. Oh, excuse me, you fans.

No, it was this, no, but it's bullshit. Like, it was this, anyway, IB, it's this baccalaureate program so and I chose philosophy as like like AP but better for all for all my people that are like me out there it's like AP but better anyway it's like it's like those smart kids better than them like like when I say like me I mean like the kids that were like I'm in honors. I thought that wasn't just something that like they were just trying to get people in. Sure. I mean, that's debatable.

But anyway, I indulged in myself at that age too where it was like as a junior, I was like, oh, wow. I mean, I like, and this is pretty basic, but like I got obsessed with Plato and just like just like loved all of Socrates but um but for you to say Unbearable Lightness of Being I mean that's just one of those books to me that I've never read

but has been such this it's part of this like monolith of books that's just like I can't approach it's like it's like I please

I don't know if it's fair to like put that with Infinite Jest and lump that together with like this thing that's like it's not quite that hard I know it's

it's much more accessible but for me it's just like i'm i'm intimidated by like well i really was very grateful that i read it with a teacher who had taught it before yes because it is really hard it's beautiful the prose is gorgeous everything feels like a beautifully worded treatise and it is but i'm very grateful that i had someone to talk it out with and parse it because the book is about one thing but when you're reading it it can feel like it's about another thing it feels like a romance novel and to some degree it is but it's not and yeah it's like important to have someone who can see beyond your teenage self-centered self

to recognize that this is like a commentary on the world we're in and how we should live in it, as opposed to like indulging in all your sad feelings. Totally, totally. Well, I mean, okay, so fast forward to now. In what ways are you indulging in those? I mean, like maybe you think about like childbirth. I know, and then fuck a child.

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But this one was 23. Bowen is fucking 26 whatever I'm turning 27 in two months in a year and a half I feel so old I need a baby we have three years

between us that's nothing I need a baby no I told myself I said Rafa you can't Rafa that's my first name I call myself that when I'm talking to myself. But I'm like, you need to stop talking to people born after 1990. I was born in 1990 and people treat me like garbage. It's so interesting, this thing that's happening. That happens a lot, which is like, they're like, how old are you?

And I'm like, 27. And they're like, oh. And then i'm like 27 and they're like oh and then it's like it's like i don't know it's like i will one day i will very soon be 39 too so like it's okay i'm also on my way there i'm with you well the thing is like it's you know i didn't realize it because i would often be like oh why do you care I'm 87 like you're 85 it really is like TV show references that's all that's the difference but it's a big

one I get you cause I'll be like oh did you watch Recess or Pepper Ann on one Saturday morning and the answer is yes yes and yes okay but then somebody who's like 24 won't say oh I know what Recess is okay but we fell in that window who's that girl won't say, oh, I know what recess is. Okay, but we fell in that window. Who's that girl?

What's her name? We are family here. We are family here. What's her name? Pepper Ann? Pepper Ann? We're going insane. But there are,

it's interesting now. I think for me, it happened when I was maybe 26. I was like, oh, wait. I'm on the other side of my 20s. And that made me feel weird. And I expressed that out loud. And someone was like, yeah.

You're, oh, that's so sad. Because we're in New York. Because everywhere else, everybody understands the anxiety of being over 25. Because everywhere else is doing life a lot faster than we are. And there's a prescriptive. Yeah. Yeah, they have, their milestones count. So like if you said this to somebody who's, you're from Long Island, I'm sure the response would be different.

And you know, like also people, I don't know. I'm sure the response would be different. And you know, like, also people, I don't know, I'm imagining that person was in entertainment. Yes, they were. And they like to do the, uh. The performative, uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Rule number 102. The performative, uh. I will say, this has been fucking with me.

What? I will say this has been fucking with me what one of my best friends from high school Emily yes is now fully like nine months pregnant

okay great and it's crazy that she's married I remember when she got married I was like oh my god this is insane and now

another one of my best friends from high school is married and like probably gonna get pregnant soon and the engagements keep coming and everything

the pregnancy is what really got me. Because it was like, oh my God, someone that is my age that I went through a lot of things with is having a child. And that will start to define their life going forward. And that makes, that does make you question where you're at. I mean, my father had me late. My father was 35. My mother was 28. Which is funny because 35 isn't really late.

But it like is for them in that time. For 1990. Yeah. For 1990, I bet my dad was anxious at 30. Sorry. I bet he was. Like I haven't really ever asked him that. But I bet that, you know, coming around to 30, 31, 31 32 my dad met my mom when he was

34 mm-hmm like that's gotta be a thing especially when his mother was 17 she had him in 1955 33 yeah yeah that's me older my mom was 28 mm-hmm same and she had emigrated from Nigeria and had a kid before so like when I turned 28 I was like oh my god my mom had two kids and had left Africa and I am just figuring out how to make baked mac and cheese

I mean are we assigning too much meaning to that necessarily no I don't think we are because time is time and there's only so much of it yeah but we're in a different time sure and yes yes but i think they're just you know as even if you're like fortunately that's not the case with my mom but like even if you guys are like so different that you don't share the same values yeah even if that were the case there's some shit that you grow up learning that's residual.

Oh, sure, sure, sure. And so I feel like, you know, even though I know it doesn't matter that I didn't get this degree or like, you know, didn't have kid hair and whatever. I know it don't matter in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure it doesn't even matter. I have a nephew.

She has a grandkid. She's cool. But there's still something every now and then that shows up in the back of your head. You're like, oh, yeah, we were told Nigerian women should be married. And, you know. It's ingrained in there somewhere. It's imprinted. I mean, yeah.

Like, my dad saying to me that, like, he's the oldest out of his sibling. He's the oldest male, which means that his son me yeah i technically carry the family line even though i have an older male cousin on that side of the family but he's the first son he's the first son so yeah so the so the male first born of the first son oh my god you're prince william i'm prince william and so and i was even because he was in town last night and i was even talking to him about this and he brought that up and i was like but dad it doesn't matter anymore and i thought i was right and i was like but dad it doesn't matter anymore and I thought I was right and I was like but dad I thought I was being so

like progressive and I was like but it shouldn't matter and he goes no it does and I was like him saying no it does is just it's like that rule in the rule book that you're like that doesn't make any fucking sense but someone could say it but it's like for him and it's like for him

to have like beaten that into my psyche for so long like as soon as he said no it does i was like you're right it does yeah i mean i'll never forget the moment and i remember the moment that i realized i was gay at 11 years old i was getting into bed and i looked at the window and i was looking up at like i was like thinking about my day that. And I remembered playing in the pool with my friend. And I was like, wow, I love my friend. I love when he comes over. I love, like, his back. I love, like, his back.

I really want to touch his back. You liked backs at 11? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It was a thing. That's a grown-up thing. I'm a complex sexual being, even at the age of 11. I was, like, still looking at long eyelashes at 11.

You're out here checking out backs and shit. No, no, I'm still into back, not cock. So basically, I remember that moment. I was like, oh my God, I want to fuck my friend. Okay, so. The first thing I thought was, I won't have a son. No.

I was like, I have a sister. I have a sister who will take someone else's name and my family line, quote unquote, will die because my dad has two sisters and they didn't take,

they didn't care. So the Rogers name would die. So all of a sudden, I was like, oh my God, it was very similar to your situation. But you still have Fred Rogers. He's out there in the universe.

Out there somewhere. But the fact of the matter is, I'll break this news, Fred Rogers is dead. Oh my God. I'm sure he has like super sweet sweater wearing kids somewhere. You know what, yes.

I would love to find out that I was definitely related to him. I think you are probably just related. But in the meantime, I was like, oh shit. Like, it's so crazy. That was my number one concern, was my God, my parents, specifically my father,

are going to be so mad and so upset and disappointed when they find out that I am going to be the reason that our name ends. That is a thing. You know, that reminds me of a thing. And I'm going to be the annoying straight girl for a second. Come on, straight. So I was watching a bunch of Netflix documentaries during my break.

Yes. Thank you. There was a doc in the political section about, you know, that I can't remember. Was it called Outrage where they like talked about outing gay politicians who were working against like your Larry Craig's and stuff yes exactly so actually Larry Craig

was the entry point into the documentary and then they talked about a whole bunch of other Republican people because the documentary was made maybe like 2010 2009 so like they were talking about a whole bunch of other Republican people because the documentary was made maybe like 2010 2009 um so like they were talking about a whole bunch of other people who had been in Congress at the time that I had no clue about yeah but one of the things I like resonated with me and this is what

what you just said reminded me of um Jim McGreevey who was the Jersey governor who was gay and he was about to be outed because he had hired this Israeli, unqualified Israeli guy to work in his administration because he was having an affair with that guy. And he was married with children. And, you know, you know how all these cheating ass governors do. They bring their wives out and they're standing there sad and all of that. Here's Elizabeth. Yeah, basically. Here's Elizabeth. wives out and they're standing there sad and all of that here's elizabeth yeah basically she forgives me and she's like standing there like sad as shit won't you but um i think he

resigned he resigned because first he was the first um they called him the first openly gay governor of new jersey i was like i don't know how open that was. He had to come out because y'all was about to get to it first. But so they went through the whole thing. And his wife was not angry with him. She was embarrassed. And they divorced. But I think they have an amicable relationship at the moment. But one of the things he said that was mind-blowing,

and I had never considered this before, he was like, you know, I grew up in a Catholic family in New Jersey. When I figured out I was gay, we were super Catholic. And so the place I'm supposed to go to find love, which is God, is really, really harsh and critical of gay people. And he like talked about how, okay, well, I can't learn about being gay and being a full human being at church, but let me go to the library to like hear about other gay people and learn

about gay people. But if you're a young kid in the seventies, ain't no books about dope gay people or not immediately accessible. And I was really struck by that because even if as a black woman, like people elsewhere tell me I'm not dope. I had black parents who countered that at the very least. And I could might be harder to find. But I grew up in East New york brooklyn yeah there were books for black kids there but i can't imagine being like i am unlike everybody i know yeah and

meanwhile there is nothing there's nothing that you can learn elsewhere there's no google yeah you have this in a whole other level than i have this but it's like i just remember the horror of it being I could not see my future. Like I could not see a world where I was happy or where I had any other things that my parents had or any of my friends had. It was like you could not see it. Then I remember when I was in high school, the first celebrity, and I remember I had a strong infatuation with him because of this, but when Neil Patrick Harris became a thing. He was really hot, though.

He was hot. There was like a window. Yeah. There was a good-ass window where he was hot. And you know why? It's because he was playing a straight character fucking lots of chicks.

No! It was. You think we've internalized that? I think we have definitely internalized it. And I think the only reason he was even allowed to A, be gay,

and it was like, it's fine! Because he was able to portray this masculine character. And I also think the only reason why his character was able to be as misogynistic as he was is because in real life

everyone was like, he's actually gay so we can play this game. So it was a weird area where we kind of pretended this wasn't a CBS ass show where it was a CBS ass show. That's true.

So you're saying Neil Patrick Harris to you was like this first... He was so important to me because he at least, even though it was a little fucked up, he at least represented some sort of homosexuality complex, some sort of homosexual complexity.

And that complexity is magic, Trex. Exactly. Oh, finally, a gay man who can do magic. And that was different from, and I'm actually being real. No, I know. I'm sorry you're being honest. No, no, no, I know you are, but I know you understand. Yeah.

But it's interesting because literally all we had before that was Will and Grace. Yeah, I was going to bring up Will and Grace. All we had before that was Will and Grace And Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. I wish I had seen as a child this vision of BD Wong IRL at his New Year's party. I think I've talked about this in the pod before. Oh my god, what is this image? He's so adorable.

The best. Icon. I love him on... Sorry, I didn't mean to make this about me. No, I'm a pre-SVU ass bitch see this is why we're talking about age differences and TV references but there was a show called Oz

oh yeah I know Oz I watched Oz in real time I don't know where my parents were they should have been raising me you were watching Oz in real time as a young person. You had it, yes. Yeah.

Like, Oz finished when I was like 15. And there were a lot of things I should never have seen. First of all, I saw Stabler's butt before all the rest of y'all got to. Noticed it. Oh, my God. Him getting his dick sucked and snapping someone's neck while it happened. Yes. Oh, no, no, no.

Yes. Oh, no, no, no. Us. And then his boyfriend biting someone else's dick off when they were trying to rape him in prison. That shit is crazy. It was crazy. But yes,

I knew Chris Maloney was fine before everybody else did. He is. But also, B.D. Wong was on Us. He was the priest who everybody would go to to confess or like,

you know, he would perform. Suck off. um you know he would perform i don't know he never got in trouble like that um he was actually like weirdly very very like the one of two like purely good people on the show oh but he was desexualized but i wonder why but the the the uh framing around his desexualization was his being a priest right of course and they had i don't remember specific episodes but i do remember there being a storyline about a struggle to be a like absent of sex um so i might have to revisit that don't beat them up if i'm wrong but i I'm pretty sure there was at least a conversation with the prisoners about the struggle it is to desexualize yourself to be a priest. But he was, oh my God, he looks so good. He looks exactly the same.

He looks the same age and he's amazing. Jurassic World is the same as Jurassic Park. Yeah, he looks identical. Oh, I don't remember him from Jurassic Park. Oh, yeah. He was in Jurassic Park. He plays the same character in Jurassic World. He had glasses in Jurassic Park and then no glasses in Jurassic World.

Wait, so he got younger? Visual surgery has come so far. All these like super hot men who are like so gorgeous and young looking. Like Pharrell makes me dizzy. It's insane. It's insane. That's rich people stuff. They drink in rich people water, using rich people creams.

You know who else too? Ryan Phillippe. He does still look like a baby. It's crazy. Everyone follow Ryan Phillippe on Instagram. And also Reese Witherspoon they both I'm gonna get back together

you know only people age in like magicians have you seen their kids no because her daughter looks exactly like her and is stunning and it's so infuriating

it's mind blowing that they have like 17 year olds because they are so young to me but they were were a 90s couple. But they were one of those young-ass married couples who had kids. They were, like, very young. Yeah, but, like, they got married at, like, 20 or something silly.

Yeah, they were young. They were married. Anyway, just this BD Wong image of his New Year's party two years ago. He just makes congee, like, this porridge, this, this like savory Chinese porridge for everybody. But he's at his kitchen just wearing like leather high heels, like this fucking long. Wonderful. Like laced up all the way up to his knees.

And I was like, and I think he had lipstick on. And I was like, you are. Where's his Instagram? I wish the legend. Is his Instagram like good? No, no, no. Like I went to his party. And I'm sorry, name drop.

We out here. We out here. We out here going to BD Wings. Because Joel... BD Wings! BD Wings. Because Joel Kambuscher told me once, like, he heard a rumor that BD Wong hosts a brunch for a bunch of, like, media gaysians every week. Wonderful.

And Joel and I were like, we have to go to this. We have to go. And we kept tweeting him one day. We were like, is this true? Do you really have this brunch? And he was like, LOL, maybe. And then a friend saw this. You weirdos. What are you doing? And I think some

co-star with him on Gotham was like, oh, I'm going to his party. You should come with us. That bitch works. He's always collecting a check. Yeah, he's great. And then we went over there and he was just cooking, and he was very sweet. But I was like, but this is all to say,

I wish I'd seen that as a kid, because I knew we're, because I would have known. Your parents should have let you watch Oz. They should have left the house. My parents let me get away with some bullshit. Like, they let me watch, like, fucking, I mean, we didn't have cable, but they let me watch, like, Mad TV, which

was, like, rude as hell. My dad watched Mad TV with me! All kinds of shit I shouldn't have been seeing! It was bad, and it was crude. I think because half the time, they thought, oh, it's SNL. And they recognized SNL.

You're talking about my parents? Any parent. Literally any parent. If Mad TV came on, they were like, oh, this must be SNL. But Mad TV, we know, was something else. Oh my god. You know, Mad TV... I love Mad TV. When I think about Mad TV,

I go, wow, I think I learned every stereotype about every type of person yeah from watching this show yeah and that's actually very impressive of the show to do to be able to house so many hackneyed characters i think i learned about white women from nicole sullivan doing britney spears oh and they did that do you sometimes miss that? I do miss, like, how stupid,

I sometimes miss that. How broad and stupid it was. Like the stupid, stupid, broad-ass, dumb, generalizations. Oh my God, they did Nicole Sullivan

as Britney Spears and they did a behind-the-music thing while she was shooting the video for Baby One More Time. Yes! And then Debra Wilson plays Brandy and like,

Brandy's supposed to be a feature and then Nicole's, Britney's like, will you be in my video? And then Debra Wilson as Brandy and Brandy's supposed to be a feature. And then Nicole's like, will you be in my video? And then Debra Wilson as Brandy is like, no. As Brandy? As Brandy. The song was Lick My Baby Back Behind. Lick my baby back behind.

And they changed the melodies just enough to knock. Oh my god. Wait, this is insane. I was like 10 years old when I saw this. Oh, my God, wait. 10 years old. Deborah Wilson has Mariah Carey. Love her muffin.

Love her muffin. Love her muffin. Love her muffin. And she's like, hi, I'm Mariah, and I'm crazy. The whole thing was just like, Mariah's crazy. Whitney's crazy. Brittany's crazy. Everybody's crazy. Brittany's crazy. Everybody was crazy.

The game of all these sketches, this bitch is crazy. You know, there was like two Matt TVs, though, because I don't know this Keegan-Michael Keek Matt TV. No, me neither. Oh, I didn't even get to Angela Johnston, yo. Oh, okay. She was on the rage for a second. Yeah, because I fell off after Aries Spears probably.

I loved Aries Spears. So like the first Aries Spears, I just remember a distinct sketch of him doing a Chris Rock impression. This show is so bad. And so he's doing a Chris Rock impression. And you know how Chris Rock had put out that song

No Sex in the Champagne Room? Yeah. So he like basically does that cadence. Yeah. It's not a song, I don't think, but he's like giving the,

what the names of the network television station stand for. Yeah. And I like vaguely remember because UPN, CW is now UPN and WWE.

Yeah, WWE. I loved UPN. I loved UPN I loved UPN they had like a slew of really dope black shows for a long time and so

Girlfriends they had Sparks yes they had Moesha they had the Parkers they had a bunch of

there was also one called Homeboys and Outer Space that I really loved that I'm embarrassed to say no it's Coonery

Apocalypse don't watch it I just love it because I think Flex Alexander is the hottest dude ever. But anyway, so I just remember a sketch with Aries Peace

doing a Chris Rock impression going, UPN, underpaid niggas. That show was nuts. Like, truly every stereotype. It's kind of crazy that they got away with that.

It would never fly. It would never fly today. Fucking Alex Borstein playing an Asian woman. It's kind of crazy that they got away with that. Yeah. Would never fly today. Fucking Alex Borstein playing an Asian woman. What's her name? Miss Swan. Miss Swan. Like, are you kidding me? I think the only not offensive.

But do you like it? I love it. Do you like Miss Swan? I was obsessed with Alex Borstein growing up. I was like, this lady. I am living. I was like, this lady is the funniest fucking woman I've ever seen. How does? No. Adult Bowen. Adult Bowen. I am living. I was like, this lady is the funniest fucking woman I've ever seen. Okay.

How does... No. Adult Bowen. Adult Bowen. You still like it. You put on your adult hat. Yeah, yeah. Watch with your adult glasses. Unacceptable.

Unacceptable. Unacceptable, but it's so funny. It's so funny. I mean, Angela Johnson did Bon Kwee Kwee. Bon Kwee Kwee. Her name was Bon Kwee Kwee. And Kwee Kwee. Her name was Bon Kwee Kwee. And have you seen her stand-up where she straight up does a, I mean, it's a flawless. She does Bon Kwee Kwee.

No, she does a flawless Vietnamese, like, nail salon accent. Oh, no. It's so not appropriate. Wait, Vietnamese is the stereotype? I thought it was Korean. No, no, no. This is in her stand-up. No, but I mean, like, that she's doing a Vietnamese.

Oh, she's specifically doing a Vietnamese like she does like a Vietnamese like nail salon bit I thought the stereotype was Koreans do salon I mean it runs the gamut okay

but she she does this bit which would it really like it was why her stand up was popular it was because

she was doing these accents about going to a nail salon and basically the girls that work at the nail salon

talking to her and what they sounded like and what they said and that was her whole bit. And people ate that shit up. Like people ate that shit up. Both of her big things were like huge

like appropriation bits. Yeah. Maybe that's why she's not around. I mean I wish she was all the best. I saw a Twitter that's why she was in my brain

I saw a picture of her on Twitter she also has not aged at all. Oh good for her. She was great. I wish her the picture of her on Twitter. She also has not aged at all. Oh, good for her. She looks great. I wish her the best. She's very talented.

She's super talented. It sometimes makes you wonder, like, what is it that, A, she never did anything again? That makes you think, did someone- I think she's still doing stand-up. Does she do stand-up? Yeah, I think she's still doing- It's just not on the level as maybe you thought she was going to get because she had these huge moments where everyone was talking about her.

I mean, in the age of Twitter, you ain't getting away with no bone quickly. No, no, no. You see the way black Twitter ripped Iggy Azalea apart? We ain't letting you have no bone quickly. Someone for a second was like, Izzy Azalea's got a new single, and I was like, no, she doesn't. I was like, you think she does. No, she doesn't.

Iggy Azalea has a career. Iggy Azalea never existed. Oh my God. But the other day I was on my Spotify. I was listening to my Spotify and I was on an old playlist. And then all of a sudden it was like, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. It was Black Widow. Love you so much and then that one, I just hate you.

That one. Where she's just, and I'm listening to her rap and I'm like, you are doing a crazy black southern accent. Which is insane. She's a tiny girl from Australia. Her name is Amethyst. Insane what she's doing. She went to Houston, then went to LA. Who that? Who that?

No. No. It's crazy. It's insane to listen to, and it is something that It's very distracting, too. Like blonde tips on metrosexuals will look back on Iggy Zalia in 15 years and think, No, bitch.

No, bitch. The frost. The frost. Remember when white boys that, like, in metrosexual age were, like, just bleaching the tip of their hair? They would gel their hair and just bleach the tip? I even knew at the time. I was like, I'm not doing that because there is no way that has staying power no do you oh my god

you know when I'm thinking of it he didn't have just the tips though did you watch the real world no probably not but the real world New Orleans the first one which year was that do you know

was it like 95, 96 it was probably like 97 I really kind of started well there was a gay a gay guy on that show, too. He was the first, because I didn't see Pedro season. Not Pedro. But he was the one who had a boyfriend who was in the military, and they had to block

him. His name was Danny, and they had to block him. I remember Danny. They had to block his boyfriend when his boyfriend came visit, because it was still Don't Ask, Don't Tell era. Oh, my God. That was huge for me in terms of, like, seeing gay people because I don't think I saw them before.

It was, like, Ellen and him at the time, I think. But, like, yeah, there was a boy, Matt, who was Mormon. But he, like, was really cute. They're all so cute. And there was this girl, Julie, who was also some kind of evangelical or Mormon or something. And she had a crush on him because they were both virgins and she thought that they would get married or whatever.

What did you think of that? But I just remember Matt being like, oh, this virgin 19-year-old's like, I'm Matt with the pretty boy lips. But he had the... Christ. But he was like a natural blonde and he had the cut that cut

you know the Backstreet Boy cut the called the Brian Luttrell the Brian oh but I don't think

Brian did Brian no no no but we called that because of Why Not Why Not right exactly it was the

every boy band made up by Ron Perlman who's abusing one person in at least one of these bands. Oh, my God. We want to get his name right because he's a pedophile, and we should all know his name. Yeah. Lou Perlman.

Lou Perlman. Excuse me. Ron Perlman is the, oh, my God. I'm so sorry, Ron Perlman. He's the guy from Sons of Anarchy, Beauty and the Beast. Oh, sure. He's the guy who's always putting the crag in kind of a- Let's just say he's a pedophile.

No. Why not? Get these in prison. No, he's so good about's always putting the crag. Let's just say he's a pedophile. No. Why not? Get these in prison. He's so good about being woke on Twitter. Let's not pedophile him. We can find somebody who is terrible, loves Trump. We call him pedophile.

Sure, sure, sure. I have someone who's terrible. Who? And I want to talk about this. Okay. Ray was at our I Don't Think So Honey live show. Yes, and she killed. And here's the deal. You can listen to this

on Spoke right now. Or on the actual, our feed, our podcast feed next week. In about a week. In about a week. When it'll be on our channel. But Ray decided to go into the troll bowl and picked out Elizabeth Moss. Now, this is a bitch who deserves to get read. And I've been thinking about this since you did your incredible, I don't think so, honey.

It was amazing. I want to give full credit to Marsha Belsky because Marsha was like having problems because Marsha was trying to watch Handmaid's Tale. And she was like, I don't get how she reconciles this. And also, during the promotion for Handmaid's Tale, she would say dumb shit like, I'm not feminist. It's not a feminist story. This week, someone commented on it.

She did an open Q&A on her Instagram. And someone was like, hi. And they asked her that question. How do you reconcile your faith with what's on the show, what's being depicted on the show? Don't you see some similarities she goes just totally actually this person and was like actually scientology is about open-mindedness and that's why that's what i really love about scientology thank you so much she said what's most important to me is religious

freedom yeah and i said to myself okay let's walk this back for a second. Religious freedom. When I watch Leah Remini, Scientology and the Aftermath. That don't sound like nobody's freedom. Which I do watch and I do believe. Yeah. Because I watch these people on this show and their accounts are very emotional and seem very honest to me and they're week after week after week. They're talking

about sexual abuse, imprisonment. David Miscavige's wife ain't around and nobody knows. No, she appeared in the woods. She appeared in the woods looking like shit. Like six months ago they found her in the woods and then she wasn't seen again

this is alleged it's crazy there was a somehow there was a photograph of her is this like a being led through the woods is this a Bronte sisters novel like

but here's the deal it's like you I am so confounded by this because it's like someone's really gotta sit down with her and look her in the face with a camera in her face and ask her this question because how the fuck are you going

to have women coming forward with stories of sexual assault and sexual abuse lifelong sexual abuse and assault and imprisonment and you talk about religious freedom religious freedom despite that yeah i mean wasn't she raised she was raised i don't think that's i don't think she was you know what i'm gonna find out let's find out because i know the mastersons are raised which is what is letting me like danny mash let them get away and like it's not letting like and beck was raised. And who's Beck's wife? Ex-wife. Somebody I was very disappointed to find out was also Scientologist. But I'm not saying that it's okay because you were raised.

But I feel about it how I feel about people who don't fight their Trump supporter parents. And then try to have it both ways. Sure, sure, sure. And Elizabeth Moss is just greedy. Oh, sure. Because literally every one of her characters is a quote-unquote feminist icon. Every single one.

Peggy, that shorty from Top of the Lake, the handmaid's tale. Yep, yep, yep. She's greedy. And I'm wondering if she thinks it's a good marketing thing or if she identifies herself in these characters. I do not think she grew up a Scientologist. Okay.

Parents were Scientologists. Parents were Scientologists. Hot producer Emma is telling us. Hot producer Emma is telling us. Emma's really hot. She has amazing nails right now. I wanted to say, hot producer Joe and hot producer Alex

are not with us right now. We have hot Producer Emma. And she's killing it. Killing it? And she's giving us information off the top of her head. Parents were Scientologists.

Does that mean we think that she was raised in Scientology? Yes. Okay, we think so. Yeah, I think it's like that shorty from Orange is the New Black,

the ex-girlfriend. Yeah, yeah. Piper's girlfriend. Lauren Prepon. Lauren Prepon, yeah. So she's married to a Masterson or was married to a Masterson.

Yes, that 70s show, yeah. And the Master, no, she was married to the guy on that 70s show, Little Brother, from Malcolm in the Middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're,

why do they just keep generating actors? That's so bizarre. And, but yeah, so I think it's the kind of thing where Scientology's old enough for there to be grandchildren now. Wow, no. Elizabeth Moss is quoted as saying that she gives her the faith gives her stability.

It makes her feel like a better version of herself. Quote, I think that's a good way of saying it because there's so much focus on the, I guess, empowerment and sort of respecting yourself and yourself as an individual. It's a better you, not necessarily changing who you are i'm a big believer in taking what works for you from different things i have a lot of respect for that so my friends may give me great advice or i'll talk with my mother but personal freedom is a very important concept in my religion and i translate that to sexual orientation i guess defending the gay community because on because you know unfortunately the Scientology's views on

more than unfortunately I mean it's a tragedy but she's trying to have it both ways the fact of the matter is she's a fucking celebrity and they treat them differently and the fact that she can't see that and the fact that she doesn't believe

these women coming forward and not just one or two women you know hundreds did you watch that show I only watched the pilot but I was obsessed with it actually that's what I'm going to do right now when we leave I'm going to watch the show but that show that was based on like Tom Cruise's

story where they had that really hot guy who was like trying to find a perfect Scientology wife. Oh, I've heard about this. Wait, what's it on E? It was on E. And I watched the pilot and I was like, this is poorly written and I am in love.

Oh my God, that's insane. They had this young hot guy. So the stories are, the pilot at least was centered on this actress whose boyfriend she just found out was cheating on her. Uh-huh. And she goes in for an audition to play alongside this hot actor who is Tom Cruise's character, basically. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. And then he doesn't pick her for the role,

but he thinks she's the perfect public partner. And so, basically, they... She, like, in the first episode, I don't know if she... I don't remember if she takes it, but she basically... He's offering her a contract to be his girlfriend for 10 years or be in a relationship for 10 years. It's basically Tom and Katie.

And it was intense and crazy, and I totally believe it. I totally believe it. I believe everything 100%. 100%. And honestly, I just feel like, well, I definitely think she's going to lose the fucking Emmy over it. And that's what everyone says. You think you wanted to have social consequences for that?

Well, the thing is, like. People aren't going to vote for that. For her. Here's the tea. Do you think. Apparently. I have a question, though. What?

Sorry to cut you off. No. Just a quick, like, I believe in social consequences for transgressions such as those. I'm very curious because I've been seeing this kind of self-delusion happen where when you provide them those social consequences or whatever, they turn themselves into martyrs. That Ted Nugent thing, did you see? Where he's like, oh, I can't get into the Hall of Fame, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, because I'm not PC enough.

And that might be true. And then David Crosby was like, no, the fucker's just not good enough. But do you think they learned the lesson? Or do you think they dig their heels deeper? Yeah, dig their heels in. I think what's important is that we don't justify that shit. And if they want to talk about it like,

I didn't get on it for this reason, they can spin off into their own fucking realm of crazy. And explain why they still love that shit when there's evidence and social consequence for it. I mean. Exactly. And I'm not saying that Handmaid's Tale doesn't still do a great thing. I'm not saying it's not a great show but there is

a hypocrisy here which we must call out and she has to answer for because she seems like an intelligent person. She's an incredible actor. And you can't... And also the way she was promoting the show matters too because she was undercutting, ultimately,

the feminist message in there. Yeah. Because there's no way you can watch The Handmaid's Tale and be like, that's not a feminist show. Yeah, and she did come out eventually after all the controversy and say, I just want to say in caps, of course it's a feminist show. But what I wanted to say was it's so much more than that.

And that is the feminist misunderstanding. But that feminism is limited to. Exactly. First of all, the problem is, and we still do this, and it's mind blowing, and it offends me every time I see an article that's like, whoa, girl's trip made $100 million. Can you believe it? Yeah, nigga, we can believe it. We've been telling you the whole time. First of all, if you have a starved demographic and you finally give them something good that they want, they're going to come out in droves.

So that's first. But second, women have buying power yeah oh yeah it's women who will buy stuff that they see in ads maybe a white guy will say to a wife or a mom go i'm not being stereotypical i'm just talking about research right that they'll say hey i saw this thing i want so if if a network or a movie or a TV show is aiming at their 18 to 35 white male that they always aim for, they have to realize that those people aren't buying the shit that the advertisers

are trying to sell. The mothers are buying it. But there's just this, not natural, but there's just this American and Western and everything now because Westerners did whatever they wanted to do with every part of the world. But this natural desire to please and impress white, straight male audiences like there's no way that you did The Handmaid's Tale. Experience the character that you experienced. You yourself are a woman. And say, oh, it's not just a feminist show.

Or it's not an entirely feminist show. It's for everybody. If somebody at your network wasn't in your ear whispering, don't alienate white boys. And that's bullshit. It's bullshit. Because they don't even buy the products that Hulu has the ads for. But you still have to sort of be beholden to that stupid thing. Because that's the validation.

I am still craving a real answer to that question. Yeah. Because she is not only once, not only twice, several times with Top of the Lake, Mad Men, and now, most crucially and most currently, Handmaid's Tale, representing these really feminist, iconic characters, and it's this hypocrisy behind it that I think is so shitty. Top of the Lake is boring, by the way. Yeah, I know. You mentioned that. I tried to watch it, and I thought the same thing,

although the second season has Nicole Kidman, which I was gagged for. Oh, okay. But I haven't watched it. Her best role was playing the daughter of a patient on Grey's Anatomy. Yeah. And she was the overbearing just anal. I didn't even know she was on Grey. It was like first or second season.

This was like season three. Remember the fucking that fucking old lady whose bones turned into stone like petrified bones. Oh my God yes. Her daughter was Elizabeth Moss who was this like who had the dollhouse and had those dolls and was crazy, and she was so overbearing to the doctors. I don't remember this, but I will go back and watch it

if you can send me that. Feminist icon. Feminist, yes, absolutely. But it bothers me so much because she is so fucking good. She's great, she's great. It's confusing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I read an article the other day that was talking about her

as the number one actress in the entire world in terms of prestige television. And I'm like, yeah, you can't argue with that. That's not a false claim. You can't argue with that. I mean, she was the lead actress on Mad Men and now The Handmaid's Tale. You cannot argue with that. Well, that's debatable if she was the lead on Mad Men. It depended on the season.

Depended on the season. Were you a Mad Men fan? Oh, of course. Yes. And it's embarrassing, but I love January Jones. Yeah, me too. Okay. She actually was perfect in that part. I don't know. No, she was being herself. Well, yes, she was an actor.

But casting is acting, y'all. Like, you think any of these people can act? Well, yeah, sure. But I also worry, though, because I don't know if she knew what Betty meant. Exactly. And Fat Betty, I think it was comedic. Fat Betty was like, I don't think it was meant to necessarily be that comedic. Well, I didn't laugh at Fat Betty.

That's your problem. You are trying to forget her. You are the same as me. I don't think so, honey. Bonier. It's January Jones. Feeling the discomfort in that suit was what made me laugh. And it made you uncomfortable. It was not her being, the character being fat.

It was just January Jones failing at this assignment. Oh, really? I don't think so. That's what was funny to me. I think January Jones actually never failed at the assignment because the part was so close to her. No, I think. She failed many times.

I don't know. There were kind of times... Like, it took me three seasons. Spoiler alert. I'm about to spoil Mad Men. It's been over for three years. If you haven't watched Mad Men, you must go back.

So when she figures out that Don is dick, there's that... This is when I turn... I have a lot of these. I'm a Circe fan, too. There you go. I love Circe. I love Circe. Because there's these things where is when I turn, I have a lot of these. I'm a Circe fan too. There you go. I love Circe.

Because there's these things where, first of all, women are not allowed to be antiheroes the way that men are. There are female antiheroes, but they don't get celebrated the way that male antiheroes do. Agreed. But there's always a moment where there's a woman

that I'm being written into hating. And then she does some shit and I'm like, I'm with you bitch forever. With that scene? Okay, describe it to me. The scene where she finds a drawer. Yes, the drawer with the lockbox. Yeah, so season three I would think. Yep, end of season three. And she opens

the key and Don comes home and there's just something about the way she says, open it! Open it! And I i'm like i'm with you yeah be terrible to sally forever i i love you i had that moment with cersei like four seasons ago i'm with you bitch i'm never gonna leave you alone there was this there was a scene where there was two scenes where i loved january jones forever it was this, it was, there was a scene, I think it was like season one or two, where she, for some business dealing that Don's done, like, January Jones gets to model again.

And so they bring her in, and they put her in all the fancy clothes, and they show her the shot she's going to be in, and they do tests, and they put her in makeup, and then they say, they put a necklace on her, and then they say at the end of the episode, because of something that Don's done, and she doesn't know this, and they say they put a necklace on her and then they say at the end of the episode because of something that don's done and she doesn't know this and they say we're so sorry it didn't work out we're actually gonna have to um tell you that you have to leave set and we're gonna need to take the necklace so she says oh that's okay it's okay that's totally fine i understand and as they're taking the necklace off of her, her face just breaks. And she just like, she just like, she's so disappointed in her. And I was like, I got to give it to her right there.

She made me feel it for a character that you're not supposed to feel it for, which is the whole key. And then the second one was end of second season. I think it was. She realizes that Don has been cheating. And she looks at him and she turns to him and she's like such a child and she's such an, she doesn't know how to process herself emotionally. And I thought this line was written so well

and nothing to mistake with the writing on that show. She just goes, I want to scream at you. Oh my God. And she, it was like this pause between I want and then what she was gonna say because she was scared and like childlike. I was just like,

yeah, this is like such a real thing. Is, oh my God, is Betty Draper Cersei? Oh,

in another life. In another life. Oh my God, if Betty was empowered to be cruel, she might be Cersei. And then who's Don? Jamie?

No. No. Well, who knows? Don. What, Robert Baratheon? Don doesn't fucking exist. In James, though. Exactly.

Wait, but there's also, I loved Betty in Italy. Do you remember Betty in Italy? Yes, I remember that. So wonderful. When she felt empowered. She was like, oh, I'm learned. I'm going to speak Italian. Those were happy episodes.

I liked those. That was post, like, when they were about to divorce. But, you know, Don was still being greedy. That was their escape episode. And then when the episode was so sad because they got back to America. Oh, my God. Recently, if you watch this, I'm forgetting. No, no, no.

Because I actually think that Mad Men is the best television show of all time. I think the suitcase is the best episode of all time. The suitcase was... The suitcase is incredible work. Yep. I think that...

I remember that season three finale, it's called Shut the Door, Have a Seat. Yeah. I think it's one of the best... When they do... It's like a caper movie almost. It's incredible.

And there's so... When they're like taking over the firm. Yeah, do, it's like a caper movie almost. It's incredible. And there's so many. When they're like taking over the firm. Yeah, there's so many episodes of that show which are just beautiful, beautiful works of art.

And what I was thinking about Mad Men the other day is it was able to become one of the greatest television series of all time, in my opinion, without being violent, without being,

It was very quiet too. Without being over the top, without being super sexualized I mean I was thinking about that show and yes it's true there was and I was thinking there was a rape on that show more than two

because Joan gets raped on the floor by her husband and then I don't know if there was another one because if we're thinking about Peggy she was always complicit. Not complicit. She was always consenting with Peter. Okay, so.

But so many of these shows that are like, this is the greatest television of all time. It's like gross and violent. So many women are getting raped in these shows. And it's like Game of Thrones it's just like so out of control Big Little Lies but Big Little Lies

was a comment on I actually defend Big Little Lies no I just like it I like it but I'm saying there was violence beyond even just

the domestic abuse like they kill a man which is great okay unpopular opinion alert Nicole didn't do it for me that's okay to have that opinion To my

Oh yeah to your credit To my credit You put Reese over Nicole If I have a ballot in my hands It is Reese First of all I had a like Oh I didn't know I liked this bitch. But I liked this bitch.

So I had one of those. And two, she basically plays Flickr, Tracy Flickr. She plays Tracy Flickr and Elwood combined. Flickr, Flickr. I'm thinking Siggy Flickr from Real Housewives of New Jersey. I wish her name was Tracy Flickr. I know, Tracy Flickr. No, Siggy Flickr is a cast member on the Real Housewives of New Jersey. But yeah, so Tracy Flick, as a grown-up,

somehow not obnoxious, even with the obnoxious-ass kids that she has. Yeah. And I'm not gonna lie, if my man left me for Zoe Kravitz, I'm gonna have a problem. Yes. Because I'm never gonna feel good about myself ever again.

You know, because you can always be like, if a man cheats on you, you can always be like if a man cheats on you you can always be like I have the moral high ground yes he ain't shit and but then you see Zoe Kravitz

and you're like oh she's doper than me oh man that's what it is there's someone the fairest of them all the fairest of them all that

that but then she was a murderer I my bad again we are it's been over fouriling season one of Big Little Lies. And I say season one because I truly hope for a second season. They are bringing one back. But I'm not with the second season.

But I am. You will watch, right? I will watch. But what stories do we need? We need the backstory of Zoe Kravitz. We need what's going to happen with Reese's. Why is sheese's being a murderer oh excuse me uh it was self-defense self-defense or well it's uh quite a blurred

line there wow we'll see i'm so happy to talk about big little lies again because when it was on it was my it was my shit everything and now my everything is fucking bachelor in paradise and i hate myself oh i tried to watch The Bachelor one season. I watched a season of one of them. I can't remember. And I, look, I love trash reality TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I can even stomach an overproduced show.

Like, The Kardashians is so overproduced, it's mind-blowing. It's crazy. But, I don't do well with secondhand embarrassment. Like, if you're doing something embarrassing, I feel it in my body. Like, I can't do it. And Bachelorette, Bachelor, all of it is so embarrassing for me when I watch. Yeah, you know, like, how the cringe humor of The Office or V? Yeah, sure.

I feel that watching Bachelor in Paradise, and it's worse because... It's real. Yeah, I don't know necessarily and it's worse because it's real yeah i don't i don't know necessarily that it's always real but i don't the part of it that i don't like is at least on those shows they're scripted it's deliberate i cannot tell if the people on the bachelor feel what i'm feeling right yes it's it's like when and they are so cruel about it the editors they're like showing someone being like i am so excited about this date. Because she's going to say that she loves me when I tell her I love her back.

And it is going to be the best moment of my life. And then cut to the other one. I really feel so sad that I'm going to have to tell him that I don't love him. And it is so sad. And then you see them come together. And you're like, well, this is the worst moment of his life, her life, and my life. I mean, bad for all parties involved. I'll never forgive Rachel Lindsay.

Never. But also... She also, like, just objectively speaking, because I saw the hullabaloo about the choice, she picked the less hot guy. Oh, 100%. 100% she picked the less hot guy, and also... But also, but also,

to be real, I do follow them on Instagram and they seem very happy. I know, I saw random pictures of her kissing him. Maybe it's all good.

Maybe, maybe, maybe I was just fooled by the edit. Maybe I'm a lay person. His hair is too Burger King, you know, that Burger King mascot.

He is 100% Burger King. He's an asshole. He calls himself a physician. He's a chiropractor. He's Jafar with a haircut. Oh my god! You are so bougie. I'm sorry. He shouldn't do that. Chiropractors are not doctors. There you go.

You heard it here first. Let's move on to I Don't Think So, Honey. We gotta move on to I Don't Think So, Honey. So this is the segment of the show you may be familiar with. It's where we take one minute to rail against culture. We take one specific item of culture that is just kind of, what would you say, but one just getting at us. It just pops our boils on our skin. And, you know, usually we'd be thankful for that,

but in this case we're not. I'm not thankful. No, let my boil rest. Let my boil rest. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first? I can go first because I can speak from the heart. Great. So this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey, and his time starts now.

I Don't Think So, Honey canker sores. Why? Why? Just explain to me why. Why, God? Is it God that I have to ask? Because there is no reason why. So canker sores

and I want to say they are not cold sores, bitch. It is not herpes. No. It is canker sores and I guess they come on with stress but you hurt me. And I had to drop out of a show last night because of you. I had to feel uncomfortable

tonight. 30 seconds. I had another show because of you. Canker sores, there's really nothing you can do for you. I swish feel uncomfortable tonight. 30 seconds. I had another show because of you. Cankersores, there's really nothing you can do for you. I swish around salt water in my mouth. It does nothing. There is a thing.

And my mother is like, well, did you do salt water? I say, yes, bitch! I did! 50 seconds. And it's nothing. Cankersores, I had you from a young age.

I thought when I had my wisdom teeth removed that you would be gone forever I have some relief but not enough five seconds can't go so far as you ruin

my presence I don't think so honey that's one minute oh man what a somber I don't think so honey there has not been a moment over the last four days

that I haven't thought before I've spoken about how much how much is this gonna hurt watermelon frost I have it at home you're're going to come with me. I'll give it to you. My culturists out there,

if you have canker sores, just reach out. Reach out. Reach out. Let's all form a group. Let's have a Facebook group called Canker Sores. Alright. And whenever you have one, you can comment. Okay. Yes. That sounds great. Did you hear what I just said And whenever you have one, you can comment. Okay. Yes, that sounds great.

Did you hear what I just said? Whenever you have one, you can comment. You can't pronounce canker sores. Every continent is a bee. I'm so sad. I'm sorry. Watermelon frost.

It's been such a stressful time. I can't wait for you to try watermelon frost. Okay. Can I go? Yeah. Okay. Can you leave me in?

Bowen Yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts... Ow. I don't think... No, you didn't start... My canker sore. What happened?

What? It hurts so much. Oh, my God. I feel so embarrassed for myself. No. Ow. My little sore. Okay.

You just faked me out. Time starts... Ow. My canker sore. Time starts now. I don't think so, honey. That secretary, receptionist, whatever the fuck at Warby Parker on Spring Street

and 6th Avenue yesterday during the eclipse, I was told that Warby Parker locations were giving out free eclipse glasses so I went to go procure some for my coworkers because we were all gonna go to the Hudson River to watch the eclipse and I said I will go to the Warby Parker location on Spring and 6th Avenue

to get, to get fucking eclipse glasses. And I don't think so, honey. When I walk up to the elevator, I see all these people pouring out with eclipse glasses in their hands. I go, great. They still have them. 30 seconds. Come on, procure. I walk up.

The fucking receptionist. I go, do you still have eclipse glasses? And she gives me this look like I've just punched someone else in the face in front of her. She goes, no. And I go, okay. 15 seconds. That's fine. And she goes, I don't know what you want me to say.

And I go, that's all I needed to know. And then I walked away, but I gave her the most dagger eyes I've ever given anyone before. Five seconds. Because this fucking receptionist was giving me lip. And I don't think so, honey. Don't you ever speak to me that way, Especially during the eclipse. That's one minute. You never speak ill to someone else during the eclipse. No, not during the eclipse.

Anyway, she was the rudest fucking person I've ever met. What a specific I don't think's funny about a specific woman. She made me so upset yesterday. Where does she work? The Warby Parker office at headquarters on Spring Street and 6th Avenue.

She has short brown hair. office's headquarters on Spring Street and 6th Avenue. She has short brown hair. I want to say, let's dox this person. She should have known better. She should have known better. Ray is horrified, but you know what? That's why you don't cross cultures. You don't cross us because I will potentially get

you a warning meeting from HR. I'm not going to get you fired. I don't want to get you fired. I do't want to get you fired. I do want to... But you will get a... What's called a... Talking to. A tap on the wrist. A slap on the wrist.

Don't you ever speak to Bo and Yang that way. Wow. Someone's head is big. All right. So now we have Ray Sonny, who really has done an I Don't Think So Honey for the ages. And we're going to have another one. Truly a master of the farm. We're going to have another one. Truly a master of the farm.

Oh, my God. I feel so much pressure. It's going to be a Princeton level. No. I don't think so, honey. Give me a second. Give me one quick second. One quick second.

What's making me mad? What's making me mad? Come on. You know you have something that's making you mad. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Race Honey, I Don't Think So Honey. Time starts now.

Twitter is making me very mad. I'm very mad. I don't think so, honey. Time starts now. Twitter is making me very mad. I'm very mad. I don't think so, honey, Twitter, people who ain't got a blue check. Oh, shit. Now, I never flex. I never flex. My mom raised me humble. But listen, there's always somebody who wants to disagree with you just because they think that they're going to get retweeted and flex on you.

Listen, when I got verified, I don't even have that many followers. Maybe 5,000. Whatever. Who's counting? I am. 5,052. And this guy tells me, oh, you know, you're not even that funny. All right.

Maybe. You know what? Who cares? Here's what I've never done. Been an anonymous person and found a person who isn't anonymous to tell them that they're not dope. Because you know what? If you're anonymous looking for people to tell they're not dope, you're not dope, my niggas. Oh, baby. I gotta pee.

That's what I meant. She's gotta pee. And look, that's how she meant she's gotta pee and look that's how she signs off I will say this I would kill 5,000 followers and 52

and how dare you insult the unverified I applied for unverified and they said at this time we cannot verify you

and I said I responded I was like okay bitch no I got the rejection first I got the rejection first but then what do you think we'll do do I need to write on a television show well I I mean Okay, bitch. No, I got the rejection first. I got the rejection first. Oh, that's good. What do you think we'll do?

Do I need to write it on a television show? Well, I mean, I tried that. And then our representation, we have to say people. Yes, our people. I said, you got to work on this for me. This is for my ego. I need this. You took it to your rabbit. I can't believe.

Wait, and I know who you're talking about. And how did they respond to it? They were like, sure. I'm sure she was embarrassed. No. And then was like, okay, I'll see what I can do. But she also made it happen. And then made it happen.

As she does. Bravo, bravo. So my 5,000, it's nothing because there are people with millions. Who cares? You've got the blue check. But I got the blue check. I need the blue check. Aseptually. If anyone's out there listening it's a certain somebody who does a certain thing for another certain body somebody i want for

nothing i this bitch doesn't have a blue check either which i'm fine with for now whatever you ain't fine i want for nothing um this you will get a blue check before I make a work with her. He gonna get you a blue check tomorrow. We'll see. We'll see. That's so funny that you guys are talking about her. Wow.

What fun inside baseball stuff to leave all of us. Shut up. I only thought about that because I made a joke on Twitter about Matt said he's not a sports fan but there's an I do some sports. Okay. Alright. Fine. But anyway you not a sports fan but there's an

I do some sports I made a sports joke about Boston fans being racist and they are and a boy like lost his mind on me an unverified little bitch

an unverified Boston ass fan fuck you for both of those things Boston own up to your unverified little bitch. An unverified Boston-ass fan. Fuck you for both of those things. Own up to your racism. Yes. Like Mark Wahlberg blinded a Vietnamese dude. Exactly.

Like, just own it, you piece of shit. Mark Wahlberg. This is gonna be all over the TV. Mark Wahlberg, highest paid actor in Hollywood

blinded a man. Wait, the highest paid hate crimer I know. And with that, we're going to call it a wrap on this episode of Last Call to Recess. Ray, thank you so much for being here. Oh my God, I've had so much fun with you. I'm sorry I'm sweaty and gross, but I've had so much fun. We love you so much. We love you.

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