Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Hungry Girl Who Loves Flavor" (w/ Arden Myrin)

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

Bowen and Matt are joined on this episode by the REAL queen of all media-- ya know her, ya love her-- it's Arden Myrin! The host of Will You Accept This Rose? right here on iHeart Radio joins the gals from her gorgeous podcast studio (theme: Marrakesh Chic meets IKEA) to chat about what it would be like to smoke weed with Jackie Kennedy, her Insatiable co-star Debby Ryan and their Atlanta shenanigans, Annie, Solid Gold, Teri Garr, starring in the Steve Martin play Meteor Shower, Madeline Kahn and being friends with your lawyer. Also, Bowen and Arden compare notes about working on legendary sketch comedy shows Mad TV and SNL, and Arden spills the T on the season of The Amazing Race that almost featured her and...Lance Bass! All this, the new season of RHOBH, the difference between "several" and few", and much more. Pre-order Arden's upcoming memoir Little Miss Little Compton right now! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow.

Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. And, okay, Bowen, a couple of items of business. Yeah, I would say more than a couple. That's just really under bawling. Yeah, let's go ahead and say several items of business

because actually it's a rule of culture. Several is more than a couple and it's rule of culture number 94. Several is more than a couple. And here I was as a young child thinking that several must mean seven of these things. Come to find out, couldn't be further from the truth.

But several is tricky because, you know, there's no conventional number attached to it. But it could be four, could be five. Could even be three, which I always felt was a few. No, I think few is three and that's just locked in. There's not really that much room for other numbers. And already we're adding items to the items of business i mean we had to figure out what the correct terminology is for all these things absolutely absolutely what what are the what are the items of business i i can't really think of any well that's interesting that you say that since you said i know that there are several well i just can't think of them let's now 45 minutes into

the podcast get to the first one which is i have heard the note from the public which is that i am quote screaming into the mic now i want to just address all the readers and say you know me you know i get excited i get so excited when i see my sister bone the other half of my heart. And I get so excited whenever I see our esteemed guests and who boy, as they say all over the world, we have an amazing one today. So that's number one. Now you have always been at a good volume. I don't think I,

on a hardware level, I'm not because our sound engineer, Doug is telling me to move the mic closer to my face, right? Further away. Use this this different program use that different program so i feel like i am really getting uh it's a showbiz term noted to death yeah yeah and when you get overnoted you often get in your head so we're just gonna say um to all the readers shut up shut up um we're doing our best to provide you with entertainment for free from our damn homes okay horny okay horny now second item of business yes as the readers all know we've been discussing one famous reality competition series called you can say it with me at the same time bowen

survivor now we love the show survivor and I will ask the guest in a short period of time whether she enjoys the program Survivor. She enjoys other reality programs. She's a reality queen. She's a reality queen. But I did want to update all of the readers on a very exciting development

that will be coming to Lost Culture East. You're going to announce? It is time to announce that in a few weeks time, we will be hosting the one, the only Parvati Shalala. She is coming. Bowen, this is a moment in time. This is actually like a, this is a benchmark for the pod, I think. I will say I was nervous when we went to go get Margaret Cho on the pod.

This is the more nervous than i'll ever be and margaret show was my hero you facetimed me when you had it and you when you when i first i started watching survivor a couple weeks ago you facetimed me one day you were pacing around in your home yeah and you were like i think we should reach out to parvati and i was like absolutely let's do it and i'm so happy we did because she has said yes to the invitation she listened to the lauren lapkus episode and quote enjoyed it oh my god and so now we are having the legend the survivor legend of all time on the show she wants to come on after the survivor current season winners at war which she is competing on ends yeah so we have homework for the readers we do in addition

to shutting up about our volume they must catch up on parvati seasons and you are currently watching watching one i am finishing up micronesia fans versus favorites it's riveting television so um i would say and this is this is this is the order that i've been recommended i think it's it's so far served me very well. Was told to start with Pearl Islands, which is season seven. Sandra. Sandra. And you got your Lil, you got your Rupert, you got your Fairplay.

And then move on to Cook Islands, which is basically Parv's first season. Introduction to Parvati and Ozzy and Yule. And Yule. And Penner and Candice. Penner and um penner and canner and candace characters characters i very you know sort of very kind of hyperbolic controversially controversially said um that john penner and candace were um white supremacists and it was controversial at the time they are to say that. They are obviously not. Penner is famously Jewish. We can't go on and making these claims.

I'm just kidding. No, they're wonderful people. This is the thing. Okay, so then you watch Cook Islands, and then I watched China. Yes. And I had a very crazy arc with one P.G. Law. Yes. Who started out the game a little, I thought, I don't like what's going on here.

She's plotting too early on. She played a little hard in the beginning. Played a little, I thought, I don't know. I don't like what's going on here. She's plotting too early on. She played a little hard in the beginning. Played a little hard in the beginning. And then this is not a spoiler, but after the merge, she really, I mean, shows a gumption and a drive that you don't really see all the time on the show.

So I kind of broadcast that on Insta stories. Someone sent her that story where I, where I just kind of like charted my, my, my trajectory with her and then she reached out and then we had a lovely conversation and hit it off and one one of these days we both pitched it to each other we might just do a little fun little cocktail hour and she's like you can ask me all you want about china i'm like i can't wait tell me i have to be there for that cocktail hour i will invite you as well yes all right so pg is awesome i love

her so much i am a fan of pg2 and she famously comes back in second chances years later voted in by the fans and so now you are watching micronesia which is the parvati season yes the parvati season i'm going to watch that finish that then then i'm going to move on to heroes versus heroes versus villains then um winners at war winners at war so that's the homework everyone catch up on the parvati seasons cook islands micronesia heroes versus Heroes vs. Villains. Then Winners at War. Winners at War. So that's the homework. Everyone catch up on the Parvati seasons, Cook Islands, Micronesia, Heroes vs. Villains, and Winners at War.

You all have nothing to do. Let's just say, before we bring our guest in, I'm so excited she's here, but let's just say... This is a thrill to have our guest. This is a thrill to have our guest. But for the big survivor heads out there, the people who have stuck with it all, all 40 seasons, all 20 years,

we realize we're dilettantes. We're just coming in. So please just bear with us. We understand there are huge gaps in knowledge and experience, but we are passionate fans now and we hope that we can catch up to you guys at some point.

And speaking of being passionate fans, so this is the deal with our guest. And I think that this actually is a huge moment for you, Bowen, who is a Saturday Night Live cast member who is famously Team Mad TV. I grew up with no cable and on the bunny ear antennas, which is what we had on Saturdays, we got Fox better than we got NBC. Yes. So it was just this thing where I would,

my default would be Matt. I'm going to say this. I would watch Matt TV first. Yes. Then watch SNL later. And the SNL was so grainy, but I still loved it. But Matt TV was crystal clear. And I mean,

I stuck with Matt TV a long time, especially, especially through our guest seasons. And we're going to talk about this. I mean, talk about, I mean, the whole thing with mad tv is it was always actually legendary because if you really looked the whole tenure of the show there were always iconic cast members on it yes and we have to ask about her peers on the show in addition to delving deep into her own career

which is fucking popping off currently on insatiable on netflix which i am insatiable for i remember i watched that first season in truly hours and debbie ryan is a friend of a friend and she is culture she is culture i stand debbie ryan we stand debbie ryan and then she's also the host of she's a she's she's a network mate label yes queen is hosting uh will you accept this rose on iHeart a bachelor recap podcast and talks all bachelor things and also reality show topics and we are currently in a bachelor season believe it or not even though there's a twist on the format and we'll talk about that we gotta talk about it it also has appeared on shameless and like many many many shows orange the new black etc this is someone who appears in media frequently, and that's important to do when you want an entertainment career.

And that's actually rule of culture number 15. If you want an entertainment career, it's important to appear often in media. And she's a true cult, Teresa, because she joined in on that rule. Everyone, please welcome into your ears Arden Marine! Hi! Hello, Arden. I can't believe I'm here.

I'm so excited. I stan you two. I could not be happier. You've chosen well with Debbie Ryan. Debbie is a really, really, she's a talent. She gave me this necklace. She did? Are you kidding me?

She made me like a friendship necklace. Yes. It's a key. It's a key. We're friends. Wait. Talk about the friendship. Talk about the friendship.

What do you like the most about Debbie? Spill the tea on Debbie. Okay. So I will spill the tea on Debbie Ryan. I mean, what was fun about it was, you know, like, I don't have kids. I didn't grow up watching Jessie. You know, like, I'm not like a child molester. So, like, I didn't know who she was.

And so we filmed in Atlanta. And normally I've done shows that were with a lot of sort of silly character actors. And this was like a beautiful person show. This was initially for the CW and they passed on it. But it was a show that was pageant queens and we had like Alyssa Milano. It was like not my lane of the highway. I'm like, who am I going to hang out with? And then lo and behold of all the people, I told her my BFF ATL became Debbie Ryan.

We would go. I hung out with her. Like, literally, we would go for tacos multiple times. We went to Scooters in Pima Park. We would go. Yes. We would go. To Claremont Lounge?

I never went to. She went to Claremont Lounge. I've never been to Claremont Lounge. We would go to Roller Derby. We went to. Like, we just. Oh, go to Roller Derby. We went to, like, we just, it was like,

this is who I hung out with. It was just like, It was a damn montage. It was a montage and what was funny about her, she's like, because she comes and does my podcast

and I have to warn like the other people who do it, I'm like, at first it's going to be hard to look at her because she's the most attractive person

you've ever seen close up. She's so, and then you start talking to her and you're like, oh no, she's just like a ding-dong. Like, she's a silly person born into this

stunning package and she doesn't fully know. It's like this weird little funny person. It's the oddest. I talked to her yesterday. No rain shall fall. I told her she's my BFF 818 now. She's my best friend in the Valley, in LA.

818 is the Valley area code. I could tell I was going to like her because her very, very close friend is Jill Gutowitz. Yes. Who is Road for a Game Show, who's the best. And it's one of those people where it's like any friend of yours is going to be a friend of mine. That's how I feel about Miss Debbie, who I've never met, but is family. Debbie came to visit my home. She went with me to Rhode Island.

I grew up in this tiny town. And speaking for you, Bowen, when I got on MADtv, I had never seen it because we didn't have cable in my town and we only got NBC. So we didn't get Fox very clearly. So I had literally never really seen it because it was too staticky. we didn't get Fox very clearly. So I had literally like never really seen it. Right.

Because it was too staticky. So I remember doing like a red carpet thing in the beginning. They're like, what's your favorite character? And I hadn't grown up with any of it because I didn't get, I never, we didn't get this reception. Right. But like it doesn't take away from anything. But wait, so Debbie came to Rhode Island?

So Debbie came to visit me in Rhode Island. She made it to hometowns. She made it to hometowns. She made it to hometowns. She made it to Little Compton. And here was the best part. The one person, she made it to Little Compton. Yes. It has zero stoplights.

It has a general store. The only coffee shop is in an apple orchard. And she got recognized by one kid who said, are you Debbie Reynolds? Oh my God. Front runner for title of ep. Are you Debbie Reynolds? Are you Debbie Reynolds?

I know she was like. And she, and she obviously had to say no, her being Debbie Ryan and all. Yeah. And that was a way that she could be like, no, I'm not,

I'm not Debbie Reynolds. Yeah. And then we went and hung out in like the Apple orchard. It was crazy. Debbie could have a Debbie Reynolds career. She could. She absolutely could.

Is she also a hoofer? Can she, can she dance? I bet she could because she, is she also a hoofer can she can she dance i bet she could because you know those disney they train those disney kids i've worked with a few of those disney kids and they have been trained and i feel like they show up they know their lines and i you better believe they could probably hit their one two three four ball change you know i mean it's actually rule of culture number 22 disney kids they show up and they know their lines. They know their lines.

Disney kids, they show up and they know their lines. But I will reveal at this time that I did not know that she was a Disney star. I only knew her from Insaysh. Yeah, that's the thing. I was like, I didn't know, you know? And so that made it. And it was interesting also being in Atlanta. It's almost like you're at camp.

You befriend, I didn't know anybody else in Atlanta. So it's like, who am I going to hang out with? And so I would never have guessed that it was like of all the people, it was Debbie. It was Debbie. She just texted me that she made me a friendship bracelet. And she did my mailing. She's that she made me a friendship bracelet. And she did my mailing address. Oh, my God. She's going to mail me a friendship bracelet.

Bowen hasn't made me a friendship bracelet in years. I have done much better things. I've given you much better jewelry. That's true. Have you given jewelry? He has never given me jewelry. He's given me a very nice pair of shoes, which at the time was the first time either of us had even any expendable income. And he bought me a pair of Alexander and Miss Queen sneakers with a lift.

And I mostly just look at them in my closet and fawn over them and never really wear them. Now I'm not wearing my nice clothes. Oh, yeah. I love your man friendship so much. It's so important. This is the way. It's the way.

This is the sisterhood of the traveling hoes. Of the traveling hoes. I just listened to your Lauren Lobb episode, who's also one of my BFFs. She came to Rhode I just listened to your Lauren Lobkus episode, who's also on my BFF. She came to Rhode Island with me and Debbie. It was me, Lauren, Debbie, and Brian's coffee. That is, oh, wow.

That's actually going to go ahead and make me very jealous. You can come. You want to come? Let's go. I mean, not now. Yeah, it was as random. Not now, but like when we're free, when we get let out of our cells.

Are you there now? No, I'm in Los Angeles. You're in Los Angeles. You're in Los Angeles. I love the wallpaper so much. Thank you. It's actually fabric. This is my podcast studio. It's a garage, and it's soundproof.

It's like soundproofing. And that's how you know we have a podcast queen is she's got herself a studio. She's got herself a damn studio. She's got herself a studio. She's got herself a damn studio. She's got herself a damn studio. She got herself a damn studio. This podcast being a visual medium and all, we should still describe what the wallpaper looks like. So what would you describe as the theme of your podcast studio? It's like I feel like I'm going on like we're in Morocco.

Yeah, very bad. Like we're going like Marrakesh. It's like Marrakesh chic meets Ikea. Yeah. You know, it's like. Marrakesh chic meets Ikea. It's like if we're like Jackie Kennedy and it's 1968 and like maybe we're sneaking off like with our sister

and we're going to like maybe sneak a little like peyote or something and like see things in the desert. And we've hired, like, a beautiful tent to come with us. And we're just going to go, like, have our, like, Lawrence of Arabia, kind of like that. Sort of, that's what's happening. Oh, my God.

Full story. Full storyline. And you kind of painting that picture made me think, for some reason, what would it be like to like at least smoke weed with jackie kennedy that's like what do you think that is yes because it's like a lady in a pillbox hat and white gloves but then she's like getting freaky i feel like she'd do an edible even crazier edible and i don't picture her inhaling i don't picture her no i picture her

like having like a nice little like gummy yes she would nibble on an edible and for the first 25 minutes before it kicked in or half hour, she'd be very annoying about quote unquote what it was going to do to her. Yes. Yeah. Yes. She's like, I think I feel it. I think I feel it. There'd be a lot of checking in.

There'd be a lot of checking in. Jackie Kennedy, you would need to kind of babysit her. I want to say also, Survivor, can I bring up? Oh, please. Listen to the Lauren Lopkis episode.

Yeah. Really made me, I actually, like, I wrote down the order and I'm going to do, so I did like

the first bunch of seasons. I did Richard and Sue. If you were dying at the third- As did millions. Side of the road, I would not, Sue. If you were dying of thirst by the side of the road, I would not, you know. Not give you a drink of water, famously. If you're going to audition for Juilliard, you should consider that as

your monologue because it's a spectacular revenge monologue. It's honestly a really good monologue for like a certain type. Yes. If I saw you dying of thirst monologue, you could definitely perform worse things it does feel written yeah it's so good and then i remember i watched the um boston rob and amber years yeah all stars and elizabeth hasselback oh famously yeah so i i don't

know why i feel like then i got distracted by america's next top model i feel like maybe i went to that and like project runway and then then Early Bachelor, which I then stopped. But I think I just sort of got distracted because there's so many fun things started getting offered for competitions. It might have diverged generationally at like around 2003, 2004 where people just like split up. And then like the menu got bigger with what we could see. I think that's around when Top Model started. It was Top Model Project Runway. I was like, ooh, ooh, pictures.

Tyra, smizing. One for me was that that kind of took me away from Survivor. Because I remember there was a time in my life when I was very young watching Survivor where I would like cut out pictures from magazines and put them on my wall. And like make lists of who I thought was going to like win and like re put them on my wall and like make lists of who I thought was gonna like win and like reorder them on my wall for like the standings. And then I remember American Idol happened. Yes. And I was like,

oh, this combines the competitive aspect with music, which I love. And it took me away from it. But I think that that's true. Like while Survivor did create the modern competitive reality show it also gave birth to so many other ones we ended up hurting it in a way an amazing race amazing race oh amazing race is a feat i have a confession yes i was i had applied with lance bass to do it this august

we were gonna have you heard back yeah they were interested in having us on. And we were just going to do it for fun. It was just like, we knew we weren't going to win, but we wanted to like try. But the TV is great for that. I mean, that's great TV, you and Lance. Keep going, sorry.

No, it's fine. I know that Mike White had done it. Yes, and Survivor. And Survivor too, yeah. So we decided, we applied, we sent in a video, and we were going to be Team Razzle Dazzle. And all of our clothes were going to say Razzle Dazzle, and I was going to be Razzle, and he was going to be Dazzle,

and I was going to let him outfit us. And we were just, I can drive stick shift, I'll eat anything, he's not afraid of heights. Like, we were just going to go really try to win and not win I'm not strong enough or brave enough to win well honestly

I feel like now that it's out there it is manifested and we have something to share which is that we were sort of approached about

the Amazing Race by one Zeke Smith yeah who is a contestant on Survivor who is wonderful has also done comedy

Zeke Smith. Oh, my God. Wait, you guys got approached? He was like, would you guys want to be recommended? Oh, my God. Should we all do it together? Let's all do it together. Should we do it together?

Yes, yes. I mean, honestly, because I feel like, do people make alliances? I feel like we would try to have the four of us running around the world. I don't know if we could do an alliance. I think, unfortunately, we would have to try and crush you. No, we won't win. We're not a threat. Trust me, I'm a weak link.

And he discovered that quickly. Here's what's so funny, too. He's like, you guys are BFS. I love Lance. I don't know him that well. Yeah. I was going to ask. Well, so what's fun about it is

you, so I did, so they actually like call my manager. So here's the deal. You get paid nothing. You get paid. Wow. You make. You get paid nothing. Zero.

You earn zero unless you win. And then you are completely cut off from all communications. You are not allowed access to your email, your phone, nothing. And even if you say. Which is what makes you crazy. Yes. And assuming Lance and I would get caught in like at the burbank airport or whatever say we got caught like week two yeah you then get sent to you get sent to um i forget what they call it but it's you basically get quarantined at a hotel like some and you're stuck and i think

because if you like pair up as like a couple like i think lance and i would be in a room with no access to the internet for it's 30 days that you are locked in a hotel and like mexico or wherever they like go like fly you away somewhere and lock you up and they like let you go use the pool or the gym but you can't use the computer you can't call people like and yeah they're really crazy about that you're just not at that level with lance friendship wise no but that would be but i i'm crazy about that you're just not at that level with lands friendship wise no but that would be but i i'm crazy enough that i feel like we would get along well but but that's a lot to ask that's a big ass that's a big first date friend date yeah the thing is like also too it's like i feel like if you are gonna go like i'm actually watching the survivor

seasons right now which are blood versus water which is where you go on with a family member you bring someone you know and so the thing about that is like you really do need someone that you can communicate clearly and intensely with that isn't going to be like tentatively and that is huge when you're tired frankly stressed um so there needs to be some real familiarity or just like personalities just uniquely click can't be fair weather you can't be fair weather no question when you like when you got approached did the cells in your body all fire off like in a crazy like oh my god are we gonna like did you have like a weird chemical reaction in your body we really did consider it i remember right it was a

well at the time it was a thing of like well what if we do this and sort of become weirdly known for it? Will it hurt us in other areas? And then I'll say, honestly, when I saw Mike White on Survivor, I was like, oh, no, I'm definitely going on Survivor one day. Well, that's what I actually called. I called my manager and was like, is this career suicide? If I like it, like, is this career suicide? If I like, like, is this career suicide? And then somebody I knew did Dancing with the Stars and they were like, yes, all it does is just introduce you to like, you know, you're shameless or insatiable. Like those are very sort of dark comedy cable things like this is like middle America gets to know you and like you get to get a different as a whole different crowd. And like, yeah, Middle America gets to know you, and, like, you get to, it gets a different, it's a whole different crowd.

And, like, who cares? You would be an icon. You would be an icon. You would kill it, because everyone in Middle America would love you, and the large gay fan base would be like, fucking, Arden is my queen. Yeah, they're like, oh, it's Arden, Queen Arden. It was, that's the thing that I am saddest about, like, as far as being locked up. I was like, wait a minute. So you're telling me I'm not going to be running around with Lance Bass?

I even bought a weighted vest to train because I was like, I'm not that fit. I bought a weighted vest. I was like, I need to work on running with a backpack. I was like, I don't want to weigh down Lance Bass. Friend of the Pod Tyler Oakley has been on two seasons of Amazing Race. And? And does well on the show. And I think that being well-known doesn't hurt you on Amazing Race. It really hurts people, I think, on Survivor.

Because then people immediately say, they don't need the million dollars. Get them out. Because I was recently watching a season which has Lisa Welchel, who was was blair on the facts of life yes on what show on what show on survivor survivor survivor yeah how did she do she always had that big hair spoiler alert she makes it to the finals wow what was her personality like she was very very very sweet and kind and sort of coattail righty but in in crucial moments she did make good strategic moves um and then the season i'm currently watching uh there's a very controversial baseball player on it his name is john rocker so i don't know if you and the readers know about john rocker

but john rocker was a relief pitcher for the atlanta braves in the late 90s early 2000s and he made a lot of very controversial comments about um the ethnic makeup of New York and people who ride the subway not a good thing to do and an interview and an interview during the playoffs and essentially got like ran out of the league so right now on the season of Survivor I'm watching which is Survivor San Juan del Sur great he is other people are Juan del Sur. Great. He is, other people are finding out that that's who he is. Oh.

So it's interesting to, I wonder if people, if you went on like a reality show like that where you had to compete, if people would recognize you, I think they fully would. They would, they would. Oh my God.

I think they would have to. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think, it's like, I don't think think i have the hearty i would never last on survivor first of all i'm a natural redhead and my skin would fry off like i would just it's hard enough living in la with spf 900 i'm a hungry girl it's i'm a hungry human i love flavors i yeah just like the skin color and the, just the burning and the,

I just, I put me in an igloo. If it was survivor igloo edition, maybe, maybe I don't think like Northern lights. I don't think it's happening. You would be an amazing narrator though. Cause even just you sitting there right now and you said, I'm a hungry girl.

I love flavor is a great, I would pull that and put that in the trailer. It's producer catnip. They would, they would love it. You are producer catnip. It is. Front runner for title left.

Wait, before we go to break, wait, Arden, so should we ask you, I mean, is your favorite reality show The Bachelor? Is that the North Star for you? I mean, if I'm being really honest, no. No. But like, I love it. I love Bachelor in Paradise. I love Bachelor in Paradise, but then I also, I love, and Paradise I love Bachelor in Paradise but then I also

I love and I can't believe it's on right now because it's taken so long to come back I love Top Chef so I love Top Chef I'm watching this

current season it's great I love Bachelor in Paradise and then I love like any kind of fashion I love like making the cut next in fashion

Project Runway and then Bachelor in Paradise. We have our producer. Our producer Hans is saying love Top Chef. He has not chimed in yet, but he wants to say he loves Top Chef. Can I just say, and again, I don't even cook. I'm a hungry girl who loves flavors, but I don't want to make them. And I'll tell you what, if you've never watched Top Chef, and I'm not a cook,

I literally would never make any of these recipes. But you love flavors, yeah. I love flavors. I'm a hungry girl. If you want to start with Top Chef, the first season that Michael Voltaggio and Brian Voltaggio, the Voltaggio brothers on it, it's like Cain and Abel were the younger, the legendary. He's saying it's legendary. Legendary. Because the older brother, Brian, is just just i'm not going to give any spoilers

but the older brother brian is the nicest he's the equivalent of a human dad joke he looks like a dad joke he's a sweet guy he does everything right he's a classically changed chef and his younger brother is rock and roll tattoo yeah you get the feeling he didn't even want to be a chef it's just that he wants to crush his but he wants to beat his brother. So if his brother wanted to be a baseball player, he would have become A-Rod. Like it's truly these two, but he just wants to beat his brother. And it's watching this good student

who's trying to do everything right. And then there's like chip on the shoulder, younger brother, who's just like, whatever you pick, I'm going to do it and do better. And I'm going to beat you. It's fascinating.

So Brian Voltaggio is on this current season, which is all stars. Yes. My boyfriend was telling me that he has a lot of restaurants. Lots. He's a great chef. I think he's like a pro. He's a technical pro.

But he's not like a wild card. He's not a rock and roll chef like doing coke in the kitchen. Right, right, right. And they're out there. I just want good food. I just want a good soup. That's all I want for my chef.

Can I get a good, can I get a damn soup? Damn soup. Who do I have to fuck to get a good soup around here? It's actually Rural Culture number eight. Who do I have to fuck

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And we're actually back. And what we do when we come back is we have a question prepared for you. And this actually is the question that we ask every single one of our guests that have been on Las Culturistas. So here's the question for you. What was the culture, Arden, that made you say culture was for me? Bowen, would you like to elaborate on this question?

Absolutely. It's the culture that was for you that really kind of opened up the cave door. You know how caves have doors? It's the culture that opened up the door on the hinge. Door hinge on the cave, hinge. And you were able to walk into the cave at that point. And I walked into the cave and finally that door opened in the cave. Thank you so much for asking,

Matt Bowen. Thank you. I've been thinking about this. I'm so honored to be here. I feel like I've won an amazing race. Thank you, Phil. I want to tell you, here we go. It's going to be, I'm going to do one main one, but then I'm going to do a follow-up absolutely the first one the first one as i mentioned i grew up in little compton rhode island town of 3 000 people

a general store an illiterate chief of police no stoplights we had two restaurants they both burned to the ground literally nothing nothing so it's like island, but it's a peninsula. It's a whole other planet. Love it. And we didn't get cable until two days ago. So it was the three main channels. And if you stood up holding a metal fork, you could maybe get PBS. Yeah, yeah. Who would want that?

No. Too thinky for me. So when I was four years old, my mother drove me down to Manhattan. Oh, the big city. She brought me at age four as a little ginger girl looking just like Barb in Stranger Things. She brought me to see a Broadway show at age four. That first show was a little ginger child, Annie. Yes.

I'm so happy to hear this. Can I say, I mean, I to hear this. Can I say I mean I sat my mouth, I was like, you're holding back my career. We need to move to New York. This is a, first of all I should be Annie. I should be Annie. You really should. They did like a nationwide

search for the movie and I went and auditioned and I was way too I was like four and they're like, okay you know, and Eileen Quinn got it. Dammit, Eileen. Come on, Eileen. Goddammit, Eileen. Come on.

Come on. It's really culture number 40. Come on, Eileen. And then I had an older brother who basically there was no, I've heard you talk about it. Like there was no parental supervision in the most wonderful way. And there was also really no children's programming. So I just watched, and I'm a night owl. So the television, and I'm going to say specifically the Saturday night lineup, which was, like, Facts of Life.

Yes. Silver Spoons. We have some Golden Girls happening. Wow. There was some Love Boat, some Fantasy Island. And then there was a show on called Solid Gold, where Dionne Warwick,

they had dancers and they were like slutty and would like dance and like, and Dionne Warwick could sing live the theme song every week. It's like, Solid Gold,

where the dreams all come of you. They should revive that. They should. I mean, and I was like, I want to dress, I want to dress like a solid gold dancer.

Yeah. I want to express myself. And then the classy part was I had a smart older brother and he would show me like, he would show me like, Madeline Kahn,

Terry Garr. Wow. Terry Garr is underrated. Terry Garr in Young Frankenstein? Are you kidding me? Underrated deeply. I mean, Madeline Kahn in Blazing Saddles. Yes.

All the Steve Martin movies. All of them with Lily Tomlin. Like, there was, so it was sort of a highbrow, too, of like, like, and then Gilda Radner's Rosanna Rosanna Dana. It was like, and I remember, I think I was like rosanna dana it was like and i remember i think i was like four watching all this stuff and just being like and i would like steal their act like right out what she'd done and and they would just let me watch all this shit and it's like it was and i kept trying and there was a girl that moved from new york down the street and she'd done

commercials and she'd had an agent and i was was like, and she did a serial commercial. She did a serial commercial. And I was like, I need to get an agent. We need to move to Los Angeles or New York. Because my career needs to be happening now. My career. When you're young, you always feel like you're behind. Like I remember when I was like in college and I didn't have an agent,

I was like, well, how the fuck am I supposed to book anything if I don't have an agent? No! I know. I remember like taking headshots how the fuck am I supposed to book anything if I don't have an agent? No! It's like you're freaking out. I know. I remember like taking headshots in my dorm in Colorado. Like, it's like, this is going to get me an agent. You know, like you just couldn't figure out like how am I going to get from this field to move into my television?

How can I move into my television? Yes. Right. Yes. For me, it was like watching the Oscars and watching people thank their agents for me to be like, okay, well, that's what I need now as a seven-year-old. I need one now. Yeah, and they always get thanked. They must be important. And these managers, people, these publicists, these lawyers, you're going to need a whole team.

It's actually rule of culture number 55. You're going to need a whole team. Do you guys remember when Charlize Theron won her Oscar? She thanked her lawyer and she goes, yes, I'm friends with my lawyer. And that got a big laugh I was like I need a lawyer I need an agent

a publicist I don't know what these people do but I need them my team I need my team I'm actually happy to report that

Bowen and I are friends with our lawyers we love our lawyers and one of my lawyers Seth who's also Bowen's lawyer

called me on my birthday oh my god that's nice thank you Seth for calling me on my birthday who's your lawyer my God. That's nice. Thank you, Seth, for going to my birthday. Who's your lawyer? My lawyer is Seth Horowitz.

And Isaac Dunham. Wait, we have to talk really quickly. You did go to college in Colorado, didn't you? I did. I went to Colorado College in Colorado Springs.

Oh my God. You guys have connected Atlanta and Colorado connection big time. Big time. I want to ask you, now, how has it been, I don't know if you have

freely, like, how has it been being on SN snl i found that tv to be my hardest job i ever had i think sketch shows sketch shows are hard and i remember i remember i had tested for snl against amy amy and then i knew when she got it that i probably like that was probably it that's how i that's how i found out I didn't get it when Bo and Yang got it. And then I didn't. And then I actually, Matt TV offered me the job that year. And I said, no. Wow.

And then I didn't. Yeah. And then I did it. And then I did it the last four years. And then I did a bunch of, because I come from sitcoms. And I did a bunch of pilots that didn't get picked up. And I remember I ran – it wasn't that I thought I was like better than – it was honestly more out of fear because I thought – Yeah.

I didn't know if I was going to go and thrive. Like I wasn't a ground – like I made this tape in my living room and I sent it in to SNL and Mad TV and then they both called me and I remember being I knew a lot enough people that had worked at SNL to know how hard it was and that I knew that I'd never done any of these characters in public and I was concerned now looking back I wish I could have given that young gal like a pat on the back. I'm like, just fucking – like you made the tape. Just start swimming. Yeah, like take it easy.

You got far. Yeah. And then I remember it was like – and then I got the offer from Mad TV. And I remember just being – there was something that was like – and then I had started in Chicago. I'd done improv there, but I didn't – I was their first intern at ImprovOlympic. And they let me take the classes, but I did them all at once. So I did beginner, intermediate their first intern at Improv Olympic and I they let me take the classes but I did them all at once

so I did beginner intermediate and advanced at once it was like with Del Close and I remember realizing that like

there's a reason you do it in order like I didn't learn my like alphabet to the words to the sentences like it was like I

and I'm after Mad after I said no to Mad TV I went and quietly I went through and did the class. I just did it all. I went and really learned how to do it.

And then I auditioned again. And then I went and did it. Like, I got the chops to go do it. That's pretty cool that they were like, here she is again. And, like, it worked out that way that you were able to end up doing it. Yeah. Do you feel like it was better for you to take the time to just sort of reassemble? I think personally, yes, I do.

I think personally, because I know that they're hard environments. It's hard when, you know, coming from like sitcom or scripted things where it's like, I play Mary, you play Brian. Like we have no hand in our fates. The writers give us our scripts and like you make the best of what you get.

And so you can be my friend because we're we're not competing to get like one spot i found that um i just knowing who i was i do think i did the right thing but i wish i could go back and be like what i know now as a human it's like don't doubt yourself just go do it you know i wish i could say that. Totally. I would say that there are some aspects of Mad TV, especially by the time you were on

and your class was like Christopher Flanagan, Ike Barinholtz, Bobby Lee, and like, Jordan Peele, Jordan Peele, Michael Key,

like, like a huge, like, I think like, like a highlight era of the show. Yeah. Especially towards the end.

But like, by that point, like people were like, a lot of the cast. Yeah. Especially towards the end. But like by that point, like people were like, a lot of the cast members were like doing like, out on stage, like talking to the audience directly. And like, that's something you don't ever have to really do at SNL,

but it's like, you would like, whenever there would be pieces of you and Bobby, like doing stuff. Those are some of my favorites. I love doing the pieces of Bobby. My favorite things were, it was interesting.

I felt like, I felt like I auditioned with all these sort of weird characters. And then they, I felt as if they dyed my hair blonde. I was a redhead. And I felt like they wanted to purchase like a blonde. You know what I mean? And I was like, so I had to figure out kind of how to be funny. Like I wanted to play all like the weird old ladies or whatever. And it was an interesting thing

I think it was actually ultimately good for me to have to figure out can I be can I still be funny even if I'm like in a pretty party dress you know what I mean they were trying to hand you an image which is not who I ever was you know and it was an interesting

thing to be like alright well this is what they want and so like even doing like the red carpet thing which i ended up having fun like nobody wanted to do it and then there was just one there was one for nip talk and i remember they were like do you want to go do this nobody wants to do this and it was like it was like in two hours and so i went and like i it was interesting i'd never seen the show and it was like in two hours. So then I remember just trying to go. And you're like, who's Brian, who's Ryan Murphy? Yeah, exactly. What?

But like getting, what was fun about doing the remotes or doing the things that were off campus was I didn't have to pitch and I'd like, like you could just like, let, if you just give me this five minutes of time, I can go make something funny. But like, I wasn't great at pitching things. And there was something spring of of like let me just go improv and play with the LA Kings or let me just go improv and play with Bobby

versus like my fear of like authority figures of like I'm going to pitch this sketch and then I'm going to write this sketch and please pick like there was I sort of had to sneak in through the dormer windows

which do you have that? Did you like I relate to this so hard is now that you're talking about this like i the not the worst part but my the most nerve-wracking part of the job for me is just to like tuesday nights like before you write you're supposed to like check in with producers and like yeah tell them what your idea is and that's it that's it and i it really fills me with dread and i just want to get it over with and And I talk, I mumble, I don't make eye contact.

It's so panicky, but, but then this is so fun that you enjoyed all the remote stuff because like, I think like it's, it's my favorite stuff that I've seen you do. Absolutely. And it's also like my favorite memories of the show are like watching like Alex Borstein and Will Sasso do stuff on the red carpets too.

And then you and Bobby being yourselves doing stuff like, I don't know, like it's just that part was just it felt sort of organic and not too written or whatever it was just organic like just fun and spontaneous that it wasn't it's an interesting thing to see and i don't like i i did i always i always envied you know i always envied some of the guys would just go in with no fear and just be like, yeah, this is what I'm doing. And, and the amount of fear of authority, like I, it's interesting, like I recently, my friend and I wrote a script and, you know, we were an indie movie and we were

getting funding and, and all the producers and the director, everybody was female. And I realized it was the first time I felt comfortable just saying, this is my idea. I can defend it. And how much just pitching to straight white men, wanting to please and being intimidated and how hard. It kind of made me sad pitching to these women like, how good I felt and just realizing, oh, that's probably how these guys felt the whole time on the show. The whole time. Yeah, right.

And that I never – I always felt – and I think probably ultimately why I didn't take it in the beginning. Like, let me just prove – let me get one more class under my belt just to prove, you know i i it's an interesting thing of like time wasted trying to get the official certificate to be like you're funny enough if you were a man i bet you would have taken that job because men are cultured to be like no i'm ready for this whereas women are like i'm not ready for this it's the way and i think that gay men have it a little bit as well we're not obviously not to the same extent but it's always like a second guessing of yourself that you'll be prepared to handle the straight male opinion yes i i it's an intro like that's one of the things that like i like being more of an adult lady like looking back and just having compassion of like wow you made it through that and and you

come by it honestly and you don't have to do that anymore. And like go where the love is, go where the people want to work with you, own your idea. There's places for it now. Like don't be afraid of like sometimes even what you think is the worst about you or what's your secret damage

or like what's your weird little idea of a story. Even just when I came up with the podcast, it's like what makes your tail wag what's what makes you feel kind of crazy even doing the amazing race with lance bass there's something that's like what's your little special thing to give to the world that makes your tail wag protect it and then like go to people that can see it and and you know and that's not always it's not always the world that you're in, but it's like, don't be afraid of throwing your hat in the ring. That's beautiful. And that just entails undoing a lot of the work that other people try to do where they do throw an image onto you.

Like, we're going to dye your hair blonde. But it's like, no, I'm Jackie Kennedy in Marrakesh. Yes, yes, I am. I just had an edible and I'm waiting for it to kick in. I think it's kicking in. I feel like that's one of the reasons I'm so proud of Bowen on SNL is because he

has an established identity and you can tell he's connected to that. Yet he is like, I'll say be the one that says this, but he is playing the game of SNL well. He gets things on. He always seems to be a presence in the show and this is not to put like any continued expectation on you but you've done such an

amazing job and I also think that you also are someone that people know as Bowen Yang and will continue to know as Bowen Yang and I have a feeling that um not everyone like feels like access to both parts of those things I mean I know that like when i auditioned for it and did the test i felt very in my head about like but if one of these things happen or if this doesn't happen like do i not get to be myself or do i not get to you know um have like freedoms to this but i feel like you have really been able to accomplish something very cool which is you are very clear still in your point of view, but you also are very successful at the job that is Saturday Night Live.

And I think that you should know that you're doing such an amazing job at that. You've been so good on it. Do you think it helps writing on it first? Yes, 100%. How many years were you a writer on it? Just one, but even just that one year of just like condensed,

like you just learn the rope so quickly. And like it's boot camp. And like I got the offer to be a writer instead of cast. And it's like, I don't know if this is the right fit. Yeah. Then I talked to friends. I talked to Gary Richardson, who still works there, who's also a performer. He got on the phone with me before I accepted the offer.

And he was like, I would take it because I have learned so much about just how things work, just about like the, the etiquette behind like collaborating with someone on anything. It's not even specific to the show, but it's like, but then, but then, but now I'm learning that I'm a,

I have different emotional responses to certain things where like, so as soon as Arden, you were talking about not feeling super comfortable in the pitch process. Like I was like, Whoa, yeah. Like that is, that is hard because you know what that is? All that that is is like having to close the gap and understand someone

else understanding what you're about and so like that of course you'd be more comfortable pitching to a room full of women yeah of course i'm more comfortable being on a set with like let's just say asian actors because i've i've experienced that with um nora from queens whatever queer people or queer people like i'm i'm running down my resume too much but it's like oh whoa like that i've been very lucky to have those things sort of set up for me yeah um at some point so that i can just sort of not feel unanchored at any given time yeah pitching is hard too because it's like you have to explain yourself succinctly quiet like and yeah and yeah own it and not apologize for it and just like have it be clear and you seem like you're into it. And it's, you know, part of it is I've also had to learn that, you know, I love my writing partner and knowing that it's always kind of anxiety producing for me to pitch.

But that I just need to keep it together for like five minutes. You know what i mean that it's like that i can rehearse it enough that it's that i might some people might be able to wing it more but that if i rehearse it enough that i know it really well then i can go almost treat it like an audition and then go in and seem so like fake it to make it a little like confident even if it's you know because i know that we'll do a good job once we write it but it's it's it's just sort of not apologizing for taking up the space in the room to like take somebody's time to explain it to them but it's hard yeah pitching any any comedic idea at any setting is always you know you it's 90 you selling it because i mean like if you bail on even the best idea in the world it won't go like you know what

i mean like think of the confidence it had to take to like pitch something like David S. Pumpkins. It's like, it literally on paper is nothing. It's, I mean, it's nothing. And then in performance and execution, it is iconic. You know what I mean? But like, there had to be a germ of like, or like a seed of confidence that like goes with

that you know what I mean like you have to be like someone who's behind what they're doing in order to make something work so I always feel like anything I've pitched that like went to the next place or like continued on like I was like well thank god I was behind that it's kind of like performing where if you're

having fun they're having fun like when you're pitching if you're you can, they're having fun. That's it. When you're pitching, you can fake it into being a good thing. I'll tell you, I started doing stand-up later and it's been, like, it was so helpful for me

in so many areas. Like, I started out as a stand-up and that's how I got my agent and then, and then I quickly, like, I lucked out

and I got a sitcom and I, like, I was just sort of, and I moved from New York to LA and, but I remember doing out and I got a sitcom. And I was just sort of, and I moved from New York to L.A. But I remember doing, when I was doing Chelsea Lately, Bobby Lee sort of did an intervention on me. Because, you know, it was so fun to do Chelsea. And it was nice that people sort of put a name to the face and they'd get to know you as you.

I loved doing Chelsea so much. Thank you. I loved doing it. And he was like, but I lived in New York. And so I would like fly myself out. And they, you know, it's E late nights. So you. I love doing it. And he was like, but I lived in New York, and so I would like fly myself out. And they, you know, it's E late nights. He makes like 300 bucks. And he goes, he was like, I love Bobby Lee so much.

And he was like, Arden. He's like, he was like, listen to me. You're a funny person. You're the only person on here that's not earning on the weekends from this. Like every time he's like, this is how much I make every weekend. And you have the exact same credits as me. And there's no reason you shouldn't be a stand up and earning from this. And then, so he was like, here's what I'm going to do. And we're like one month's time. You're going to, I have a show at the ice house in Pasadena and you're going to

come do a 10 minute set. It was me and Jordan Peele. We're going to each go do 10 minute sets. And so he's like, so whatever you need to do between now and a month from now to get your 10 minute set ready, you're going to, you're going to come do that in a month. And so I was like, and then he, I went over to his house and he was like, okay, first you need to decide. He goes, first of all, you thank the host. And then he's like, and he's like, and you're an attractive female. So you need to insult your appearance. And he's like, and then, so they don't, first of all, you thank the host. And then he's like, and you're an attractive female, so you need to insult your appearance. And he's like, and then so the audience doesn't think that you think you're all that. And then he goes, you have to decide whether or not you're a physical comic or you're a mic in the stand comic.

And he goes, I think you're a physical comic. So he goes, so then you take the stand and you thank the host and you put the stand behind you so the stand isn't blocking you and then you can move around and then when you're done you put the mic pick the pick the stand back and you put the mic back in the stand and it was just so interesting coming back to stand up because i yeah yeah and what and then headlining way too quickly you know because i had the credits i was headlining way too fast but out of of pride, like just getting my shit together. It's like, well, if I'm going to be up there for 45 minutes, I better like, at least I remember going, I'm going to give an A performance of like B material, you know, for a while, like, as you're like, I may not have the best jokes, but I'm going to give a really fun performance

and then like working on it as you go, like, you know, in the in the beginning and but what was so great was just saying of not bailing you know it's a long time to be up there it's a for you know and there's check drops and waiters and sometimes people get tired or the ac is not working or somebody's drunk and not giving up on yourself when you when you're starting to lose their attention and just to be like like to not panic to know that it's okay to start to leave your body like elvis starts to leave the building and then just to kind of come back in and like even if your mouth is still moving and you've left the building to like do a little self-soothing come back and know that you can like reconnect and like change the energy or like ask them about like that you can

it's never too late to get them back and yeah and that's helped me like pitching that's helped me auditioning that's helped me like if i test for something that's helped me doing like theaters like acting plays and like it's it's that to not fear when you start to leave the building because it's going to happen from time to time sure just to like figure out ways to kind of get you back and like pitch and not bail on yourself. No, that's cool. That's the mindfulness thing.

It's so great. Did you originate, did you originate Meteor Shower? I was the, I was me and Jenna Fisher. She did this, it was like a co, so I did the,

they did a pre-Broadway run. One of them was out here at the Old Globe and then one of them, I did the one in New Haven. I did the old globe and then one of them i did the one in new haven i did the i did the part there okay cool and was that the amy schumer role yeah so she was nominated for a tony for that i know i know it's a great role i was thinking about just things that make me nervous before i go on stage because i was it really over the years as I've become like more seasoned like very few things would make me nervous but um straight up acting on stage yeah I think would make me nervous because

you are without the crutch it's a sort of opposite of what you were saying before yeah I'm so comfortable being myself on stage and relying on my own um creations yes but um when I have to interpret something else or tap into someone else on stage that is what would make me a little nervous like but you are you were you always a trained actress or like it was kind of opposite for you i mean it's an interesting i've done i've done like five plays in new york and then like around. And it's been so interesting to sort of go to like, I've done three at the public? Two at the public.

I don't know. Whatever. But like to go and do these sort of fancy things with these like, and I remember, again, it was one of those things. It feels fancy. And I remember before I had done stand-up, at first, it's so I don't know what this is,

but my brain when I was younger being like, oh, I didn't go to Juilliard. I didn't go to Yale. Like, oh, it's not. And then I have to say coming back and doing them after having headlined stand-up for many years, you're like, I can fucking do anything. I don't need to do Juilliard. I know how to be. I can stay grounded on stage.

I can listen and respond. What was helpful for me doing it, this isn't a full answer to your question, but like seeing that it's helped me with auditions and stuff in that I saw that every night I got nervous before it. And even the head of the hair department at Mad TV, I would like panic and say, Oh my God,

I'm going to forget my line. And he goes, you realize you're the, you said that before, like, you know, it was like 80 episodes. He was like,

it was the final episode. He was like, you've said that for 80 episodes and you've never forgotten a line and so so clearly my process like to freak out before yeah and so it's like okay this is what i do so like this and then i clearly it must be some kind of excitement i must kind of like this and just learning like oh it's not gonna kill me this is oh it's right on track i get because you care about being good. It's because you care about doing well and you want to do a great job for yourself and for the audience and for everyone that you're on stage with. So it's an investment thing. It's one of those things that has helped, I think, with theater.

What I like about it is what I like about the no safety net is like making the eye contact with somebody else on stage there's something about like the eye contact having to trust them and then and then truly get it's like i'm very bad at meditating and there's something about like you can't you have to just be where you are you cannot get ahead of yourself because you you will screw somebody else over probably. So like truly just like being there and that is different. It's also interesting that it's like even some performances that felt like they were the best performances, sometimes the crowd just wasn't into it. Yeah, right. Or sometimes it went crazy and it was sort of maybe a sloppier performance that is not as personal as it feels.

That was helpful with stand up they helped each other that's yeah it's oh i love that it's always so different i would love to do a play it's fun that's it's fun you want a short run you want like a limited engagement like it's fun of like a three-month engagement you have like a month of rehearsals like two weeks of previews and then like six weeks of shows and then like okay bye like i don't think i did a lot of them in college and i was always like mad when like the like six or seven show like it was only like a week you know what i mean in college you're only doing like a week and i was always mad when they were over yeah and then i was like yeah but some people do that for years yeah like some of these broadway

shows we had ben platt on the show and he was like even though i knew it was like a show that was showcasing me it's like yeah after a while it's like you want to move on justifiably. I've never done one that's more than like four months. Meteor Shower was fun because except for one scene, I was on stage the whole time and I'd never like had such a big part in a play. And Steve Martin was around for like the rehearsals and you know he was such a hero of mine i had albums i had a poster of him on the wall like i had the best poster with him in this he's such a legend so that was really like to to get to work with him and it was interesting yeah i will say stand up in my mind my stand-up university what gave me

the confidence to go by like and like truly be like it doesn't matter that i didn't go to juilliard they picked me i've had so much performance on stage i have hours and hours of alone on stage i know what i'm doing and this goes back to the annie thing too probably said that about amy schumer and she earned a hundred percent yeah yes but this goes back to the anything where it's like you know you're it's this thing that like really kind of lit something up in you was like the seed crystal for for this life that you wanted and then you're like how do i get there and then yeah this but this i relate to this thing too where it's like this thing clings on you where you're like i like for me it was like i didn't study you know any performing arts in college and like yes and like that puts me at a disadvantage

and all this other stuff but then like i don't know like there there's everyone has their own differently sized hill to sort of like crest over in order to get to a place of like i know i can i can i can probably do this and do this well because i care about i care somewhat about putting a good quality thing out there the thing i've learned more and more is is truly the more I get more specific about what's unique to what's my little, what's my lane of the highway? What makes my tail wag? Where am I of like best service in the world in a way that's like, that it may not be important, but I mean, even truly pitching this podcast is the silliest thing. we break down bachelor episodes but i've never watched sports or anything but it was there was something about like wanting to do a community

thing of like who's going to the finals who's going to the super bowl who's getting banged in a hot tub like it's like but but that's something that's seemingly like completely frivolous but that like yeah people respond to when you when you do what's sort of unique to – and sometimes coming back to stand-up, like at first I had my idea of what – Bobby told me this too. He was like record it and listen back to where they want to laugh and you're not letting them laugh and you're cutting them off. That's such a good tip. And it was like – and so then I felt like, you know, in the beginning when you're first just trying to put together five minutes, ten minutes, you have your idea of what your act is. But then the audience tells you how they like you. Yeah.

Yeah, they really do. And the gift of that. And it's like nobody wants, for me, it was like nobody wants to hang out with the perfect person. Like they liked me a little bit of a mess. It's like Kitty got into the champagne bottle and Kitty wants to play. And like a little bit of a ding dong. And there was something. It's like your flaws.

The gift of everything I thought was like wrong with me or the most shameful about me is actually what is the most relatable or what people. Because everybody has their little monster sides too. It's a good personal exercise to find out how to think about the contrast of how you are comfortable on stage yeah and how you're comfortable acting on stage yeah and also how you're being responded to on stage yeah it's an interesting dance yeah or what people project onto you all the time because i'm whatever not to not to bring this back to me but like i'm exploring this thing now it's like oh whenever whenever whenever i whenever i go out um to do to be in a sketch or whatever it's like oh the audience wants me or expects me to be this sassy like bitchy gay guy and i'm like but that's

not what i am all the time and i'm trying to like show people different different like you know little granules of like myself but it's like there's like everyone's gonna like work some acrobatic thing gymnastic thing to like tie me back to like that persona i'm like oh that's fun like i can now i can like push and pull and tug at like that string for not string but like i can like pull that thread as as much as i want or in whatever way i want well we all fly in in certain packages and i think particularly in comedy if you know like a blonde lady on stage or an Asian man on stage is not necessarily like the, it's not the majority, you know? And, and so what's fun, like for me with standup too, is like, like if you're doing a longer set, being able to sort of sneak in darker things or like now like you have for you like that you have them

liking you you know you can do that and then like what can you sneak in how far can you push it what what else can you get away with like the fun of the fun of just refusing to be completely just put in that yeah yeah

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back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting, starting on October 22nd on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So we're back, and if you were wondering what I Don't Think So Honey is um if you're a reader who forgot or this is your first time listening to this podcast where we have the amazing guest

ard marine i don't think so honey is a 60 second segment where we take something in pop culture and we just absolutely rail against it wouldn't you say bowen we really laid down the tracks we build the locomotive and we fucking ride that track on the locomotive we okay a different way to rail something many and actually it's rule of culture number nine there's so many different ways to rail something but but um you know it is has been it has become custom that I do go first, and I could. I think you could. I think you could.

Do you have something? Would you like to time me? Because I do have something. I will time you. I've got the phone in hand. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. As time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, people who criticize me for using the word like too much when I speak. Oh, yeah. And I don't think so, honey, anyone who criticizes anyone for using like too much. Honey, it's modern times. It's a colloquialism.

It is how we express ourselves. Also, seriously, you are going to die on this boring ass hill. Bitch, do you think that you sound, like, innovative saying this? You wasting breath talking about how you don't like people saying the word like is so much more of a waste of breath than all the breaths i take before and after the word like in my many sentences sorry i'm young honey sorry i'm influenced by youth culture sorry and you know what if my godmother whose name is alicia silverstone not in reality but in my life says like all the time in the classic film, Clueless. And here's what I'll say.

If I don't think so, honey, if you think that saying like is not intelligent because I... It's so funny that I ran out of gas. I'm done. And that's one minute. It's so funny that I ran out of gas talking about how actually I'm smart

even though I say like and I had nothing. No, it doesn't matter. I had somebody slide into my DMs and shame me for saying like on a podcast and I just wanted to rip her throat out. It's so funny because like every single language in the world, every language in the world has a filler word like that. Every language has that. And like why are you like trying to say that it's bad or that it's like the indicator that like someone's dumb if they use like or huh? I don't even hear it. I don't hear it for anybody.

I don't even hear it. And you know what? All it does is put me in my head in a way. Me too. It's like, oh, do I sound stupid? Yeah, of course. Am I saying it too much? When somebody sends you a lengthy shaming email, it works.

And it's like, I don't think so, honey. No. We got read on the reviews on the podcast app because of it. And I understand it because if it's really bothering you, then I get it. And I'll try to make the adjustment. But it's just so funny how people equate it with lack of intelligence because I think that's really a first thought. As I say like again, and now I'll be in my head about it.

I didn't damn notice i didn't even hear it but it's interesting that people just want to equate it with lack of intelligence so quickly it's is it really that simple and i'm telling you from my tent and marrakech she is simple from this tent and marrakech just get on the like train because it is more fun yeah i mean it's also it's it's it's sort of insinuating that i don't have interesting things to say but honey you're listening honey you're listening and uh you cared enough to to comment on the podcast but that also could be because they like listening to bowen so who knows but i just wanted to like what just i said it I just wanted to discuss that as a thing because it's so interesting that people really – they would make you feel stupid for just trying to express yourself.

It's so interesting. I reject it. I reject all of it. I don't care. And as long as you guys reject it, then I can soldier on. And feel angry about it on behalf of you. I think that was very solid. I don't think so honey

i wish it had ended strongly um as i always do but the matter is my point is made and that's really all we try to do on this pod great hey bowen yang what about you i'm ready i've got something okay so this is bowen yang's i don't Think So Honey. And like he starts now. I don't think so honey mirrors, sweetie. I don't like what I'm seeing. And it's not because I think it's because after quarantine, like the mirrors in your house really start to play tricks on you. And then, you know, and then I see some spittle. I see some like little bits of gross stuff on the actual service.

And then when I wipe it down, it feels this is no. Can I be more specific i don't think so many bathroom mirrors okay there we go because i get the toothpaste on it i get the face i get the face wash on it and then i feel crazy i feel like a dirty caveman for having to walk like wipe down my mirror every other day is this the frequency we're all working like we're all working with right now because i'm doing it every other day i feel disgusting maybe i am disgusting and 15 seconds i'm gonna i'm gonna say something and this is kind of gross but i have been having to bleach the damn porcelain bowl ever since quarantine because i'm i'm taking like really like powerful five seconds shits and it

clings now now all my stuff is dirty and i feel like a dirty person. And that's one minute. I'm really happy that you've brought this up because, well, two things, same thing with the toilet bowl. Yeah. And the other thing is your mirrors in your house would make you think you were an absolute filth. Exactly. And I know I'm not.

I cleaned every Sunday. I clean. And I thought like, what has, but I mean, truly it's so disgusting. It's so, what happened here?

What did I do? What kind of like, did I, did I eat bath salts and like rip somebody's face? Like, like did I go crazy? Like what, what happened in here?

I have, sometimes I have to be like, I know I didn't come on this mirror. So what's this come? What's this thing that can only become? What's this come? It's actually Rural Culture number 96. What's this come?

But Bowen, yes, powerful. And I think during quarantine, we're all noticing that our mirrors are not what they should be. Because what else are we supposed to look at? I've also never seen so many zits on myself in just the quarantine acne. I cannot. I just like this. Your skin looks flawless.

Oh my God, thank you so much. I put some makeup on for you guys. I mean, like I wake up, I don't know if it's because I'm like sleeping on my face. I don't know if it's anxiety. I don't know, but I'm not liking some of the like. It's stress breakouts. Engineer Doug says it's toothpaste breakouts. Thank you.

Engineer Doug says it's toothpaste, and he's exactly right. Thank you. He's exactly right. It is toothpaste. It's toothpaste. It's actually- It's toothpaste. So that cum on your mirror is toothpaste.

It's actually rule of culture number 49. That cum on your mirror is toothpaste. Now, it's interesting that that's 41, but that answers a question that's set in 96. Yes. You know, I don't make the rules. I just make the list. That's fine. That's fine.

Arden, are you ready? I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay. I can't wait for this. This is Arden Marines. I don't think so, honey. Okay.

Yes. And her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. And this is not going to be a popular thing to have a problem with. I don't think so, honey. And this is not going to be a popular thing to have a problem with. I don't think so, honey. Shared plate restaurants. Okay. I am hoping.

I do not mind a family style. I do not mind a buku de beppo. I don't mind going to like a Chinese restaurant and getting like, okay, we're going to get like three. We're going to get this and this and this and three things. I do not like some, I don't think so, honey. Some like, oh, I have to go out with my lawyer, my publicist, my team and go, oh, do you want, do you want the beet salad? Okay. So we, what do you do? No, you want the, you want the calamari. Okay. So we'll get with that. And

then you'll have one of my beets and all, cause they come in, they're tiny. It's not chair plates. It's regular size plates, but then you have to like negotiate with like, oh no, I'm not eating wheat. I'm not eating gluten. I don't think so, honey. I am a grown ass adult. I will pay for my own stuff. Why can't I just get what I want to get and not have your dirty ass fingers into my tiny non-shared plate? Not family style. I don't think so, honey.

Shared plates. Thank you, COVID. Take it away. Bye bye. Oh, thank you, COVID. And that's one minute. You know what? I love my lawyer, Seth.

He called me on my birthday. I don't care what he wants at a restaurant. I want my own thing. I want my own thing. I don't want to go, okay, so we're going to get one beet. And then you guys want the, okay, we're going to get the mozzarella. And you guys want the arugula with vinegar. Okay.

And you know there's always two whole dishes on the table that you want nothing to do with because of this. And you know there's one you want so badly. table that you want nothing to do with because of this. And you know there's one you want so badly. And you don't want to have to share it eight ways. And you don't want to look like an asshole. You're like, if you're like, I'm on my own. Like, how about we all get our own plates? And if there's one thing we're dying to try, we'll get one or two and put it in the middle.

That's fine. I'm so open to sharing, but not everything. And also, good luck being full after eating at a shared place restaurant. And the bill is so high. You guys, shared place restaurant. And the bill is so high. I really hope, and the bill is so high. The bill is so high because they're tiny. Astronomical.

And again, I don't mind a family style. Family style, you give me a mountain of meatballs. Love family style. You give me a mountain of meatballs, you give me a pile of pasta, great.

We're going to Bucca di Beppo. We're going. Yes, please. I love Bucca di Beppo. I love the papal room, the pope room. Oh. I went on a double date there. He was the other date, Alan Tudyk from Firefly.

Oh, I love Alan Tudyk. I dragged Alan Tudyk as like a double date to Bucca di Beppo. And he was like, why are we here? And I was so embarrassed. Family style. You have such cool friends, Loki. I know. I mean, I have pretty good friends mean i have pretty good friends i have

pretty good wait wait i have at one two three name your name a cool friend that we have not mentioned one two three amy man amy man of the magnolia soundtrack of the magnolia soundtrack of the magnolia soundtrack molly shannon mo soundtrack. Of the Magnolia soundtrack. Molly Shannon. Molly Shannon. Okay, so I have a story about Molly Shannon. I saw Countess Luanne live with Molly Shannon. Oh my God. Okay. That's pretty great.

Can I just say, so I got to do Watch What Happens Live in January and I knew I was doing it and I was not a Bravo girl, but I went with Lauren. I went with her when she did Watch What Happens Live. Yes. So they were like,

they gave me, just as you did on Survivor, which I will her when she did watch what happens live. So like, they were like, you need to, they gave me just as you did on survivor, which I will watch. They gave me an order. So I watched New York, New Jersey, Orange County, a below deck,

below deck sailing. Yeah. And so I'm watching all of them now. I am. So New York is my fave. How was Luann? How was Luann? And you went with Molly.

You went with Molly to Luann. I went because I went with Chris Kelly and Sarah Schneider. I was a writer on the second season of the other two. And they were going the best. I mean, great folks. So they were going to Countess Luann, and they invited me to go. And they were like, also, Molly's coming. And then I was like gagged because obviously I love Mally Shannon and knew she was knew I would meet her eventually

because I was writing for the show but going to see Lou with her is a whole other deal and the funny thing that happened with Luann was she comes out she's like you know performing doing her thing she's let's just say this she's definitely a star oh my god so she's the there was a point where um you get to ask questions like like she asked questions about everything and ben rimelauer who directed her show we know him and i got the mic and i had spoken with him before and he goes to council and he goes lou it's matt rogers from lasulturistas. And she goes, oh, of course. Oh, my God, yes. She goes, darling, how are you?

It is so good to see you. We've not met once in our life. Oh, my God. She's like a politician. She's like a full politician. Like Tony Hales in her ear. I was like, Lou, girl. I literally was like, Lou, girl, it's so good to see you.

Okay, so let's get to it. Like we had an old friendship. I still don't understand why she got so mad that they were screaming Giovanni. I don't understand the problem with that. Why was it awful that-

Giovanni. Why was it bad that Dorinda was saying that? Also, I'm loving Leah. I think she was being drunk and disruptive. Do you love Leah? Here's what I'll say about Leah.

I love Leah on the show. Leah in life, I have questions about. Leah's politics are a little questionable. They're questionable in life, I have questions about. Leah's politics or a little question? Okay, I'll go deep diving. She definitely writes

for the Federalists. I'll go deep diving. I'll go deep diving. Another secret. You have to watch Potomac. Oh, that's right. I was also just told

the Potomac, somebody else at Potomac. I'm going to write that down. Potomac is Potomac. I'm watching Beverly Hills right now. Orange County was great. Tamra crying in the bushes,

please. That's a great exit. Beverly Hills is really good this season so far. I'm watching Beverly Hills right now. Orange County was great. Tamra crying in the bushes. Please. That's a great exit. Beverly Hills is really good this season so far. I'm very much enjoying it. The Denise Richards stuff is literally insane. What is insane? The Denise Richards stuff. Oh, my God.

Her husband explaining what he did for a living at the dinner party. That was one of the most shocking things I've seen and heard. And they're getting followed. I'm like, what if they actually are? What if they're getting followed. I'm like, what if they actually are? Like, what if they're not just crazy? Like, maybe. Well, I mean, if what he says is true, then I guess. Or they're just revealing, like, some sort of real craziness there, which we're going to see unfold. You can split an atom with sound. Why can't you cure your cancer's your friend?

Why can't you cure your friend's cancer? I was like, what? And then you look at Denise and you're like, is he serious? And then you get that she believes it 100%. Oh, yeah. She's like, are they following? And then you get that she believes it 100%. Oh, yeah. She's like, are they following us? I loved it.

Bowen. Did you put your hand up? Did you put your hand up? No, no, no. It's so good. It's so good. I have to say, how do you feel about the new Southern friend that's like, I thought you were boring. Sutton.

Okay, so I would say that Sutton is playing a season three arc on her third episode of the show, and it is bold. I don't know why she feels so comfortable so soon, but I'm kind of obsessed with her and her top knot at the dinner. And also the way that she's obsessed with place cards. Yes, I want that bag, that $800 bag, her couture, her ready-to-wear, all of it. She looks, also, I will say this, when Teddy Mellencamp did not know what ready-to-wear meant, I was like, get her out of here. Honestly, I don't think so, honey. Teddy Mellencamp doesn't know what ready-to-wear means.

How come I know what ready-to-wear is and you don't? You're a real housewife of Beverly Hills. Thank you. Yeah, 100%. It's like, ready-to to wear as your whole wardrobe. RTW. RTW. RTW.

It was truly crazy, but I believe that overall the housewives are kind of firing on all cylinders this year, and you'll love to see it. You know what? I fought New Jersey, and then I ended up loving New Jersey. I fought Joe Gorga. Now I love Joe Gorga. I'm all in. Real housewives of New Jersey is a little dark and real to me because I'm from Long Island and I kind of know those women. I'm from Suffolk County, so I'm from Islip.

But I grew up on the South Shore, so I know all those Italian girls who grew up into the Real Housewives of New Jersey. Where's Massapequa? I know a lot of girls named Antoinette. It's Massapequa, South Shore. Yeah. I mean, I just know exactly what kind of like Trump voter, like Catholic Italian Trump voter that produces. And it's very that. Rhode Island has a – I love like the real – it's just there's a nice I love like the salty the salty east coast I'm never gonna

win in a fight but they will kill your car and you have to go fight them under the water oh no and that's

why they're so good with fighting with words and personal attacks because they're never gonna beat you

physically but they will kill your soul can I be a hooker yeah be a hooker I have

yes it's not out yet it's a pre-order what is this here I wrote a book talk about your book I wrote a book

talk about your book I wrote a book it's called Little Miss Little Compton I have braces I have braces made oh my god

this is me in 6th grade a memoir there she is it's a comedic memoir and yeah oh my god I can't wait Anna's read it I can't wait it comes if read it. I can't wait.

It comes – if you pre-order, you can pre – it's all about the pre-orders, honey. If you want to get – It's actually all about the pre-orders. If you're trying to get on the bestseller list, you have to – it's all about the pre-orders. And so if you email a receipt of your book to rosepodcast at gmail.com, we're going to be giving away five t-shirts and a puzzle coming up. So send us the receipts. And I'm the result of two hasty decisions. My grandparents married the day after they met.

And my parents were coworkers in Manhattan. And they never dated. And one New Year's Eve, they got engaged on a dare. And they got married six months later. And they got married six months later. And they stayed married for 50 years. And then they moved to Little Compton and raised my brother and I. Oh, my God. You got to get this book.

Little Miss Little Compton. Little Miss Little Compton. A memoir by Arden Marine. And what day does it come out? It comes out in September. But we have a nice quote from Chelsea Handler. Well, this book is just delightful. Yeah, we love this.

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at gmail.com. gmail.com. Yep, that's it. Wait, well, I have to say congratulations on writing that book and also congratulations for being that little and a

forward by debbie ryan wrote me the she wrote the forward my bff atl debbie i wanted to say congratulations on the book that's coming out congratulations on everything you're doing and also congratulations on being that little four-year-old girl who went to go see annie and made all her dreams come true that's the title that's the title of the book was about like that little girl from Little Miss Sunshine. And like, and that when I got the call that I booked this pilot,

I felt like my react, I felt like the girl from Little Miss Sunshine and I became Little Miss Little Compton. That's so great. And it was like, this girl.

You're amazing. This girl. Amazing. We were so, we were so excited to have you on and this was such an incredible episode.

Will you guys go to Rhode Island with me and Debbie Ryan? Yes. I'm buying my ticket. We gotta. This also was an intro to me meeting Debbie Ryan and Bowen getting to meet Debbie Ryan. Oh, my God. This is huge. We meet Debbie.

We meet Brian Safi. Oh, my God. You don't know Brian? No, we love Brian. We shared a dressing room at JFL. He's the best. He's the best. Brian and I shared.

We exchanged numbers at an audition. I love that. Matt, where do you live? What town do you live in? Los Angeles. I'm in Hollywood. I'm in Hollywood. Well, I almost just said literally where I lived, and that's not a good idea on a podcast.

You can tell me later. But I live in Hollywood, and I love it. Let's just say this. I live right by the Hollywood Tower. Let's just say that. Great. Okay, how about that? Yes.

He gave his address, basically. Arden, this is the thing's just say that. Great. Okay, how about that? Yes. He gave his address basically. Arden, this is the thing with Arden Marine. You've got, okay, stage actress, sketch actress, stand up, like sitcom legend. And then you've got reality show judge, RuPaul's Drag Race. Yes. Let's not forget.

Yes, the Raja season. The Raja season. You've checked every showbiz box and this is what this is. Future Amazing Race loser. Please.

You'll probably win. Oh my God. I would be so excited. I mean on your team is someone who almost went to space. So I mean that's the thing.

He and I feel like we both have the same level of not being willing to break an ankle for it that I feel like we would be mellow and fun. We just do it. I'm good good at puzzles too i'm good at logic things yeah exactly stay tuned to see keep your eye on amazing race to see if that ever happens and pre-order that damn book why

don't you guys please watch the bachelor and come on my podcast we will start we will so i actually i wanted to get into this but we are listen to your heart like I wanted to get into like The Bachelor of it all I watched the Rachel Lindsay season and fell in love with her and then she was dead to me at the last episode

because of her decision we hate her I'm living my best life she lost all of us she married the guy with cheek implants who's a mama's boy she truly did

after Peter she had who is literally the best man I can think of he's the hottest person on earth agreed I mean we could talk will you come back will you accept my friendship Rose just to come play with us She had who is literally the best man I can think of. He's the hottest person on earth. Agreed. I mean, we could talk.

Will you come back? Will you accept my friendship, Rose, just to come play with us? Yes, I got a bone up on my Bachelor too, but I did watch, I watched Rachel Lindsay's season as well, but yes, I will close the gap of Bachelor. Okay, I will send,

we will send what to watch, we can lure you on. Okay, okay, perfect. 100%, we're there. And you're gonna be there too, readers. I love you both I'm really fans of both of you

this has been a joy this was very special we blow a kiss to you and you know Bowen what is how do we end every episode Bow with a song

with a song here we go the sun will come out tomorrow the veggie bottoms are gonna have tomorrow there'll be sun I'm gonna be controversial and say my favorite song from that show is maybe.

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