Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "I Dunno, Man..." (w/ Reneé Rapp & Alyah Chanelle Scott)

Episode Date: February 1, 2023

Grab the rabbit and the beaujolais, boo. After a meeting in Miami that fortunately did *not* end in a confrontation at a Hertz, Matt & Bow have invited the luminous and talented Reneé Rapp & Alyah Chanelle Scott from HBO Max's The Sex Lives of College Girls to laugh, gab and snarl with them on Las Cultch and chat about bringing "I Dunno, Man..." energy to daddy HBO, their friendship origin story at a Residence Inn, the imperious "mothers" of the Charlotte high school theater scene, the Jimmy Awards, anger, being the therapist amongst a friend group, and calling the people you love little names tehe. Also, Alyah attended Beyoncé's Dubai concert and shares details, Reneé discusses an awakening she had watching Teresa Giudice flipping a table on The Real Housewives of New Jersey and the girls tell tales of throwing hands for one another. All this, The Last of Us, Reneé's new EP Everything to Everyone, Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, Wicked vs. Avenue Q, Kenya Moore and That French Bitch At Customs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture yes ding dong lost culture is just calling i'm in a state i think we have a new euphemism for a gay man go which is someone who knows how to pair a rabbit with Beaujolais. Oh my God. You must be fresh from the fight. Because let me tell you something. Let me tell you what I did not think was going to happen this morning. This Monday,

January 30th, the day before Katrina Rogers is goddamn birthday. Okay. So happy birthday, mother. By the time this comes out on Wednesday, you will be a year older and we celebrate you. Thank you,

Katrina. Thank you, Katrina. Thank you, Katrina. But stepping aside from that, I did not think this morning I'd wake up to Twitter.com with every queer person screaming, sobbing in a state because of this zombie show, The Last of Us, which I had heard I had to be watching. It's not a zombie show. Hold on. What is it?

Go ahead. Set the scene. And why we're crying. It is based off of the seminal video game The Last of Us, which has been described as the Citizen Kane

of video games. Ugh. Achieving heights of storytelling. Rosebud. It's giving rosebud. And it's not a zombie story because these are not zombies.

What would you call those girls then running around trying to kill? Infecteds. Cordyceps. Fungally infected freaks clickers the fungally challenge you'll see you saw some clickers at the end of episode two you're

gonna love these clickers like that at all and i won't be watching the show only when there's a queer love story at the center that twitter.com yells at me i absolutely have to watch but other than that it's gonna be in i don't think so honey i believe they say did you watch this independent of the first two episodes i had sort of done the cursory skimming of the first two episodes to know what i needed to know our guests are like buzzing giggling on mute we're gonna bring them in in a second we're gonna bring them in in a second but i have to tell you watching this third episode of the last of us which starred in very much a bottle episode fashion and we love a bottle episode it's actually roller culture number 99 we love a bottle episode so these two actors marie bartlett and nick offerman gave us sort of a gorgeous gorgeous

tale of these two men living in this dystopian society and it covers many decades yeah gay up gay away from her it was getting gay away from her and what's an iconic reference bow good for you and i have to say i've been sobbing all morning you need to brush up on the lord this is truly an important piece of television it was so beautiful my confession is that i'm still you begged me to, well, I was going to save it for the plane ride for the flight back to New York. And I still have 20 minutes left,

but the sad thing has already happened. Oh, I'm sobbing. I'm a mess. And thank God I had the palate cleanser of the show that our two guests are. Let's just say on. Let's just say they're on this television program, renewed for season three. Congrats to them. The sex lives

of college girls. We love to see some shows out there getting renewed. Oh, wait. We love when certain shows are getting renewed. Sometimes they don't have to be our own shows. Sometimes it doesn't even have to be our own show that gets renewed to be happy. Sometimes you can be in a

state of, what the fuck is happening with the show that i'm on you know what i mean and to know that other girls out there are getting renewed it's beautiful this show deserves renewal do you know what i'm saying this show is an iconic show that honestly like i hope goes 10 seasons because i'm seeing myself in the show amen that. That's what I'm saying. Amen. Now you just heard a voice. We met these two girls in Miami, Florida.

Of all places. Have to. Honey. Ron DeSantis country of all places. So true. And it was truly, Matt, do you agree with this?

We were at Miley and Dolly's new year's party. So fun. You had your fucking Marissa Tomei's, your Paris Hilton's, Matt, do you agree with this? We were at Miley and Dolly's New Year's party. So fun. You had your fucking Marissa Tomei's, your Paris Hilton's, your- There was a lot of people there. Your Escalas. It was a hot spot. The star wattage was- Certainly through the roof.

Out of control. But when I saw our guests from across the way, first of all, these two people, I'm like, they're people that I'm like, I'm not going to take a picture with them. I'm not going to take a picture with them. I need them to think that we're cool. You wanted to express being cool. I want them to think we're cool. I want to potentially be friends with them even sometime in the near future.

I don't want to screw this up. I'm sort of less like that. I'm sort of like ambling over to the bar being like, we're going to say hi. And you're sort of like, no. This reminds me of the iconic time we saw Meredith Marks at the red carpet of the Fire Island premiere. Right. And I left the carpet to go say hello to Meredith Marks

and I said, Bowen, get over here. And you said, I'm too scared. I was too scared. I was too scared to go talk to Meredith. And now you've struck up a lifelong friendship with her. I mean, listen, roll out the red carpet for the friendship. You guys hung out at Sundance. Oh my God, we have to talk about Sundance.

Kind of mentioned Sundance. I saw Meredith at Sundance. it's not as exciting as you saw seth at sundance i rallied with seth marks at sundance okay seth marks can we just say seth marks's favorite film fire island he said he laughed he cried he was getting down with it he said it was amazing to sort of get to know the culture and he was was screaming in Meredith Marks' boutique in Park City how much he loved Fire Island. And I was receptive. Slay. And I will continue to be receptive. Slay.

And then his hand blicked. The wrist broke. Can I just say, say though your introduction or your walking up to Renee at Miami is like now one of our friend groups it's our bit because it's what you said and you're attempting it

and it was so funny it was hot Renee Rapp not here not right now you said that? Boone said that? it was so fucking funny Renee Rapp not here Not right now. You said that? I'm so fucking funny. Not here. Not here. Not right now.

And was I wrong? No, you're absolutely correct. You're absolutely correct. But the thing was, it had to be right here right now. And then it was, and it was gorgeous because when we told y'all that a Scala was there, we saw you light up because you understood what it meant for a scholar to be there. No,

it was a big night. Huge. And that's sisterhood. Huge night. But we have to introduce formally. Okay. Because that's, it's getting too loose.

Our guests are on the sex lives of college girls between them. They share so many credits. Reboot. Jimmy award winners. Reboot with Rachel bloom. Period. Hello. Period. Everything. Hello. girls between them they share so many credits reboot jimmy award winners reboot with rachel bloom period hello period everything hello these are stars and they play wealthy girls that are sympathetic and likable very hard to pull off and not for nothing but vocalists vocalists hear me when i say it vocalists yeah and we're gonna And we're going to get into it. We're going to get into it.

A little something like, if you want to harmonize on three, like one, two, three. Yeah. Yes! Sorry, I just wanted to like get like a clear concept. You just had to let everyone know what we're dealing with. Yeah. Yeah. So if you didn't know, now you know.

And you must simply welcome our guest today. Renee Rapp! And we are Chanel Scott! Welcome to the arena. These two, they showed up, they're giving like, that's how you clap, like, without making noise. Hey, girl! How we feeling? We're feeling amazing today. We are feeling amazing. we're thrilled to be here we love you

both we're just so you said you're in burbusi we're in burbusi do we like it we're valley girls through and through we are real one thing about us we love parking okay are you good at it oh we're no oh i am Renee. Okay, so we sort of have a driver and a passenger here. I'm actually not allowed to drive. Really? Based on everybody's reviews, which I think is kind of

homophobic. But that being said, mommy parks well. I valet because I park. It's giving layton yeah it's actually very well that's what we're here to talk about that's what we're here to talk about the things people don't talk about enough and whitney being a good driver it's also giving whitney oh yeah it's on brand 100 for sure The dynamics are all thrown

off at the end of season two, I have to say. I mean, we are thrust forward into a show that, I mean, honestly, and also congrats on the renewal. That's amazing. And I honestly, the show is a blast to watch. It's so funny. I love, like, the performances. The very clear

closeness between you guys. Like, it's really, really really fun is it fun to do it must be i mean look at the two of you glowing oh my god stop well consider thrust first of all thrust hell yeah it's super fun we also just like get to hang out all day which is ideal um yeah and we we just have a silly goofy time. We really do. You hang out in cute outfits. Costume designer is

livid. That was actually just us harmonizing again. That didn't mean anything. No. No, yeah. That's true. That much is true. Did y'all meet on the show yeah yes yeah this is really special because there is such an energy i can feel it through the screen and girls don't lose that

don't lose that don't lose that in this town don't you lose that we have many bits but i'm realizing they're all very um visual so i don't So I don't know if they'll read on the podcast. Podcasts are a visual medium. We say podcasts are a visual medium. Okay, so they're kind of giving limp-wristed sort of fist up. Is that queer girl power? I stand with you, sister. Sister? Someone's calling.

Someone's calling. Is it Hollywood with another role? It was God. It was God. God? Yeah. He said, do you need me? I heard you God. It was God. God? Yeah. He said, do you need me? I heard you call.

He, God is a he. God is he, they. Describe what was the first, because Matt and I remember the first moment. Of our friendship. When we were like, wow. Oh. Like, who is this?

Is there an indelible memory for you two? 100%. 100%. Describe it. Wait, two words okay one two three hotel room I was gonna say resi in I see but the same okay so there was a hotel room residence in and the residence in is a huge part of culture I mean we have all stayed there so when you say residence in everyone listening knows exactly we can see it, we can feel it, we can almost taste it. So what's happening?

Fill in the scene. The scene is, Renee's like, hey, do you want to come over? Do you want to hang out? And mind you, I'm a fan, right? I'm a Broadway girl through and through. So I'm like, okay. Great, let's do it. Getting a call from Renee to hang out. Good thing I know that when I was coming over to her

hotel room, it was going to be her crying for three hours and telling me every traumatic thing that's ever happened to her. It's so true. Okay. Oh my God. And that was, that was that.

Yeah, it really was. Cause also like we were, so we were in this hotel and this was December, 2020. Yeah. And we were actually technically like, wow,

by seeing each other and i was so fucking scared to be here um we both moved to la for the show it was just like anxiety so it was like a new experience because like you guys are you it's like the first like big show for you guys you know what i mean like you're putting it out there in a major way and like it was going to be a breakthrough and you guys knew it because it's mindy kaling it's like big budget tbh you know what i mean there's a lot going on it's hbo max like etc so that's like all happening yeah and then there was also the out of that aspect of like covid and those were like getting canceled left and right shows were not happening and so we fully believed like we weren't actually even going to make a show until we showed up you know on day

one and they were putting us in costumes. OK, I guess it is happening. Yeah. So there are a lot of variables there. Yeah, sure. The costumes, which you love. I'm so obsessed with them. Jesus.

Oh, my God. If I could knit anything, it would be a two-piece tweed set. Girl, say it again. If I could knit anything. Yeah. Come on. Say it again yeah come on say it again but in a way though in a way though if you want to say it again please do but i but but i would say that in a way is this sort of a college experience for you guys i mean this is renee's like full college experience this is my cup yeah i'm

educated now i said this to you in Miami, but Joel Kim Booster, Brandon Scott Jones, and I were at the Jimmy Awards that Renee was at. That Renee was at? I'm sorry. That Renee attended? We have a Jimmy Awards winner in the chat.

That's good. It does kind of make you an instant celebrity in the world of like broadway theater though wouldn't you say it is so wild yeah so wild it's a cult i've said it before i'll say it again it's a cult it's a cult but do you draw a straight line from okay so here you are this north carolinian yes slay as slay first of all a tar heel through and through a tar heel through and through you jimmy it up you sort of jimmy it a little then you're yeah you blink you're mean girls yeah you blink there's covid you blink you're on sex lives you meet alia yeah that's amazing i

believe in the universe i believe in the universe And I think that somewhere along the lines, two people were born, right? One of those people was born and yeah, in 1997. And the other one of those people was born in the year 2000. So you were 2000 and you were 97. Okay.

So basically we're talking to people that are the same age as titanic and like what's a 2000 film crouching tiger hidden dragon yeah it's that sort of titanic crouching tiger meeting that we all what we have that that's exactly what do you mean yeah what do you mean what does that mean well i think it just like really sinks in to the soul for me do you want to explain no so what year is which that you're talking about this is renee and jimsy of it all the jesus i'm not a cut 97. you're cuss i'm a cuss i'm not but you're but you're giving z because i thought i was and then some people were like no you're not you're giving You're giving millennial. And I was like, that's not bad, but I don't know. No, you're Z,

but you're also a grandmother. Becca has corrected us and said 96 is Gen Z. I feel that way. You're so Gen Z. You just are, like, best way grandma. Yeah. But the way Aaliyah was talking to Doug

was very Gen Z. Being like being like look we don't have a microphone we don't have headphones like this is and it was it was the coolest thing i've ever seen take me or leave me no i didn't mean it that way oh no 100 no no oh no it was inspiring i'm awestruck oh thanks i can teach you because bowen and i as millennials are big apologizers we're like sorry sorry sorry you know what i mean like honest i was before i met renee renee will walk into any and look at like the head exec of hbo and be like hey bitch what's up and i'm like oh dear i don't understand or she'll just be like oh daddy what's going on yeah it will serve you well it will serve you very

well it's fun it's fun especially because like i just like i don't know man i think like i don't know see even that even that you know what i mean even that what is that i could never and bowen could never bowen and i could never have i don't know man energy about someone in a position of power i don't know man energy is a front runner for title of app at this point yeah here's the thing okay if you like walk up to like i don't know who is daddy of hbo right but like whoever is daddy hbo like okay you got there and we can get here hey girl like let's be realistic what did you do this morning

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therapist friend like i'm often the friend and i encourage it honestly i dig you really i do i do dig sometimes but i'm the friend that's like so tell me what's are you actually happy yeah and then we'll go in oh my god but you take care of you right well who's taking care of you i have started going to pottery and that has been my new way of taking care of myself although my friends would disagree that that's not an actual thing no i agree no i disagree yeah i think it is an actual thing meki on the other hand literally our friend meki who was also on college girls literally went up to alia talking about pottery and he was like so what are you running from he was like i see all those friends that you've been in the pottery studio a lot

do you think you're running from something what no you're correct he was right he was right no no he's not i think it's a good form of therapy although i think you take care of yourself super well thanks i actually really do it's productive and creative you're making something yeah yeah it's productive and creative. You're making something. Yeah. It's great. And I can listen to Las Culturas as well. I do pottery. Oh, no. Stop it.

It's my favorite thing to do. You stop that. I'll be in the pottery studio laughing to myself. And I realize I'm like, I look like I'm I'm cracking up at the wheel. Like, oh, this is more ways than one. We are talking to the drug. Right. Well, that's fucking huge. OK, so you meet because at the wheel. Cracking up at the wheel. In more ways than one. We are talking to the drunk. Right. Well, that's fucking huge.

Okay, so you meet because of the show. It's an instant fast friendship because of a trauma bond. Well, I feel like Leighton's story in terms of her coming out journey is like very deft. The way both of you were able to perform that aspect of that time in your life where someone's figuring out an identity and then another person is present as a friend. Yeah. Like light touch, but very powerful. And then for Whitney, it's like, fuck, this girl like got fully fucking like preyed upon or just taken advantage of by this like fucked up dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. like preyed upon or just taken advantage of by this like fucked up dynamic yeah yeah the thing

that i like about it is that like i genuinely feel like we literally just show up that's it um we literally just show up and just like like take things from like our friendship that could like kind of tie into what we're doing and just like put right like our storylines kind of tie into our lives which i don't know if that's like intentional for the writers being like i heard when they say that she had a hard time coming out or she had a whole place but like literally like that feels like we'll show up and get the table draft and be like oh this is triggering 100 but in the best way and in a way that feels like we have enough space from the trauma to like reenact it in a way that feels like we have enough space from the

trauma to like reenact it in a way that feels you know what i mean that feels like it's a light touch enough yeah but also that we have a friend there so like if there's ever a day we're like we're having a tough time which is very rare because we're in a comedy it's like not we're not saving lives um but if there's ever a day we're like oh that was a lot girl i can just like look at renee and we're you know we're both there. So it's fine. I have tough days often. It has nothing to do with the writing,

but I have tough days and things keep there. Yeah, that's fair. The way that everyone supports each other as a unit, that feels like my unit. Or it feels like... And the conflicts are also like... I'm never like, oh, that friendship is doomed. I'm like, no, you know what? This is working as a unit and they're having a moment.

But it did get me to think about like my own college experience. And like, I don't think I have any friends from freshman year. Bo, do you have any friends from freshman year still? Like as a 32 year old. I have friends from like doing comedy, obviously, were they were upperclassmen no one from freshman year no one really no one from freshman year but wait Yaya is completely like the opposite yeah go go really yes I went to Michigan for musical theater so that's just like that there yes let's just drop that in the ether yeah so there was only 20 of us in a class in michigan at the

time where i entered was still very like an episode of glee like you have the upperclassmen you have the juniors like every class has a role and when you are freshmen you are nothing yeah you know what i mean so we all kind of were like looking to each other like oh you know should we be here like what's going on right um and then we became sophomores together and then we became you know what i mean so like we kind of climbed up the ranks of the yeah that's like a totally different experience it's a bfa experience uh it's very specific and unique so i have a lot of friends for my freshman year well so like one of our best friends i grew up with doing theater oh okay this is weird a weird sort of thing that happened which is how we were technically introduced to each other yes okay let's take it wow so i went to college with a friend of mine who's now my producing partner

his name is thomas we were classmates and then very quickly he was like oh i'm not gonna be an actor i'm gonna be a producer and i was like what is that um and so we went through the whole thing together and then graduated and i booked college girls renee booked college girls and weirdly he was like oh hey he told renee he was like oh hey one of my classmates is gonna be in your show you're gonna love her and then he was staying at my house in la while we were working on the show and i was like oh renee's gonna come over for dinner and i was like oh renee my friend thomas is here she was like thomas loud and i was like yeah and then the entire night they just like chatted about high school like north carolina theater and i just oh my god which to be clear let's talk about a cult that's a fucking yeah i've never been put through more shit in my life

than i was in the charlotte theater scene she's speaking out about it now speaking out about it now because justice oh my god it's crazy is that the tommy toon awards or no no that's no that's not that's not they're the blooming that's houston i guess i have questions about like so when you refer to it as this like high octane intense thing like and where you have put through a lot like i was always wondering like how a high school like funnels someone even into the jimmy awards is that because it starts as a really intense atmosphere like and those are like the people that we're seeing at the jimmy awards who have been through like a theater boot camp in a way i think it's all over

the place the reason that charlotte was so intense for me specifically was the mothers literally there were yeah and no and let's let's fucking get into it okay let's get into it come on i was i was a no i was a junior in high school and we were doing this like musical and i had a friend come to me and say that there were these three girls moms who had a running group chat talking shit about me coming to this school and being in the show they were threatened well i was like okay it's on let's go so basically what happened was i transferred to this musical theater high school because i knew a broadway actor and an amazing fucking human being, Eva Noblezada, had gone. Oh my God. What a star. Star, star.

Mother, mother. He had gone to this high school. And so I wanted to do the same thing because I didn't want to go to college. And I wanted to live in New York and do music. So then the Jimmys became a thing. But yeah, theater's crazy.

Yeah. The moms though, did the moms motivate anything? Is that how they fit into this? Like I fucking, sometimes moms can be the worst worst i wish you could see my face right now because i'm snarling on the podcast i wish you could see my face like um i don't know i mean can we all just like take a moment because i know we all want to get this out we've all had tough mornings we need to snarl and can we all just know get this out. We've all had tough mornings. We need to snarl. And can we all just snarl?

Let's just take three seconds to just snarl. Ready? Go. Yes! That did something for me. That felt good, right? I feel better. My pulse is racing and I don't know why. I feel Kimberly Akimbo better. Oh my god!

The way it's been theater on theater. We had Bonnie Milligan on last week we have y'all too now they love her incredible incredible theater moms i don't know if it's that they motivated me i think it's that i was like oh my god not these like 40 plus year old women being mad at a teenager okay bitch fine come on because that's also when you get the idea that just because someone is an adult and should know better they don't and it's like that in the industry it's like that amongst people and it's

actually good and formative when a smart teen can like look around and be like oh I had that moment in high school I'm sure that we all have people readers listening are all like the first time you realize that an adult was a fuck up and was throwing you in front of a train that's a big moment

100 because let me fucking tell you age doesn't mean you're mature sometimes you end up being the kid yep we're gonna unleash some like real trauma right now so we're gonna rein it back in we're pulling it back this is what both of you are giving right now i don't know man it's i don't know man through and through i don't know man oh yeah it's so aspirational i heard edda noman i was like oh my god who is that and it's edda noman edda noman who's edda edda girl how are you coming to the stage i I don't know, man. Wait, okay. So as we sort of transport back in time, I feel it's appropriate to ask the question. Yes.

It's appropriate. Are we calling you Yaya? Or is that just a you guys' thing? It is a thing that Renee has made a thing. Yeah. I'm not sure how I feel about it, to be perfectly frank. Okay.

Thank you for giving me a platform. I've never been asked to have one. There is no bigger platform. To be fair, there was no consent in the name. There was never consent to use Yaya. No. No, for me to a platform. I've never been asked to have one. There was no bigger platform. There was no consent. There was never consent to use Yaya. No, for me to be named Teletubby publicly. You've been Aaliyah your whole life. All of a sudden, one day you make this incredible friend and you're Yaya

and your identity has changed. My identity has shifted. Wait, Renee, are you the nickname friend? Because that's how I am with this one. Renee's the Matt, Aaliyah's the Bowen yeah it's a heavy burden but just so you know it's a joyful life Renee let me tell you my back

it's like ah oh my god you know sometimes I like take nicknames from other people though like Yaya I actually stole you stole that one you did yeah from my best friend from the sisterhood that's a real millennial joke the yaya sisterhood

yeah it's a millennial joke no don't worry about it don't worry I loved it big fan huge huge fans of the yaya sisterhood

I love the joke I love the reference I love the undertones I took yaya and now I took yaya there's multiple ones though can I bring up the other ones what's the other ones yes oh yeah there's multiple ones though can I bring up the other one?

what's the other one? oh yeah there's Lil Yeesh Lil Yeesh I like those better than Yaya I say Yala when you love someone you can call them anything that's not like me

when you love someone like Bowen to me will be Bobus, Bobusette sometimes he'll just be another name like Cheryl or Lauren. And then sometimes he'll be Rita. Trina. Regina. That's just my mom's name. I'm a fan of Regina. Something I like for Bowen

is Colette. I love to refer to Bowen as Colette. That's hot. Yeah. And so there's just many different things you can call someone that you love we have a friend named leanne who's my best friend from college who we refer to as vivian just because you know oh my god but when you give vivian vivian when we wake up in the mornings i like some it depends on like how good we're feeling like i'll usually like hit alia i'll

be like good morning my little muffin pussy princess yeah how are you like what's up star girl baby queen it says so much yes yes it truly communicates so many ideas like if matt texts me and goes hi grisha i'm like i know what mood he's in yes grisha is of course spelled g-r-e-c-i- a grisha oh wow and i don't know that but i know that yeah well you know let's i want to like really like compliment you for a second you do know that babe i know that i don't know why i was scared to say i knew that oh yeah what was the and this is this is a big moment what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? It is your time to answer the question. Oh, my gosh.

Okay, there were many things. I'm trying to let it down. I really have thought about this a lot. Okay, there's two things. The first, and these will make you know me. The first is Extreme Makeover Home Edition. Move that bus. Oh, my God. People's lives were changed. People don't say that. And that bus. Oh my God.

People's lives were changed. People don't say that. And that's a rule of culture. What rule was that again? 56. When that bus moved, people's lives were changed. I completely agree. I could not agree more.

My life was changed when that bus moved. Every single time. And now that's how I see the world. I'm like, ooh, there's a problem? Just move that bus. Just when that bus moved every single time. Every time. And now that I see the world, I'm like, oh, there's a problem. Just move that bus. Yeah. Just move that bus. Well, if you do the work, you can move the bus.

But if you haven't done the work and you move the bus, it's going to be the same image, the same old shabby house. It takes a community. It takes a community coming together. Right. Yeah. So that's the first thing that. That's one. I'm actually I'm sick about the

second would be um there's a dvd that i was gifted when i was 10 and it was beyonce's uh the beyonce experience live her performance on her birthday at what was formerly known as the staples center in 2007 that is like a two hour, just full pro shot of her concert. Seven costume changes in. There's a Dreamgirls section. Jay-Z comes out. Michelle and Kelly come out. When I tell you 10 year old me, watch that on a loop. Maybe once a week.

I remember this one. Because this was when Dreamgirls was like just the year before. And it was like a moment. And it was like, I remember she was referring to it at the time as the role of her career yes and she turned 26 can you think about that he was 26 on that and that just that made me who i am oh that's crazy yeah i mean that that that thing about that era is that when it was truly leveling up and we did not know how many times it would but that was like we've been calling her like the greatest entertainer that's alive since even before that like like 2005 2006 it really started and then it was like boom bj bj gets disrespected

it gets disrespected it does it does the new discography like kind of makes people think that b-day is not number one and B-Day will always be number one. They forget about Ring the Alarm. They forget about Freak'em Dress. They forget about Freak'em Dress. Get me body. Get me body.

The long version. Yeah, the extended version. Also, the one on the live recorded 2011, I think. I'm from Houston. Yeah, the extended version. Also, the one on the live recorded, like, 2000 and what year was that? 11, I think. Okay, anyway, I'm from Houston. Beyonce is, like, my god.

Yes, I would imagine. Wow. That's my thing. And I was in Dubai, but I won't go into that. I won't speak on that for the record. I was in Dubai. You were in Dubai for the performance? She was in Dubai.

I was in Debussy, baby. You were in Debussy? During the concert? Yes was in Debussy, baby. You were in Debussy? During the concert? Yes, babe. I was there. But you can't talk about it? No, I mean, it's controversial. What do you mean? I think she's refusing to talk about it because of the controversial nature.

Here's the deal. I thought we were going to mention all on Lost Codes. I guess not. I guess even Gen Z gets afraid. I guess you will never walk up Gen Z gets afraid. I guess you will never walk up to HBO execs and say, I don't know, man. Because you couldn't even walk up to Matt Bowen

on Lost Coach and spill the Debussy tea. I could do it. Go for it. We'd be here all day, babe. Come on. Here's the deal. No phones rule. I have a theory about it okay my theory is that there was an intentional what they gave you to put your phone in was a zipper pouch like a pencil

pouch that you would use in middle school right well there was no lock there was no yonder no bluetooth nothing it was a ziploc bag that said hey put your phone in there for the show of course you're not going to keep your clear ziploc bag it was it was it was to get people talking no no it was a fabric it was to give it i either fabric the hotel was like leak it girl better press for us or herself was like this will be good for the because i'm not doing any renaissance babe like build up the hype for the tour both both are so true it was a play you will not be silenced no i'm really glad that you're taking this opportunity. And that's all I'll say about it.

I didn't know there was a no phones rule. I did not know that. Oh, yeah. There was. They had like a letter in your rooms that said like, for tonight's VIP performance, like, please put your phones away. And then on the night, you're sitting in like a restaurant. Dubai was the craziest experience of my life. And I'll never forget it.

It was just weird. I got put at a table at dinner with Tayshia the bachelorette shut the fuck up right now like they just paired us with two random people and it happened to be Tayshia and her mother this is so funny this hotel

imagine being me in center myself really quick no imagine being me I do so often I knew you were the mat the white the white bisexual speaks so i was so i was in europe and i'm getting like real time updates from alia and like every now and again like i would get updates that i was like i i wonder if i should call someone like if this is a call for help but i knew things were okay when i got a video of alia and taisha i was like oh wow she's in she's in good hands yeah

anything i could have ever meant it was so unbelievably fancy for no reason like you're sitting at dinner it's me thomas taisha and her. A man walks up and he's like, I will escort you to the performance now. And we're like, oh, OK. We follow this man through a corridor, down a hall. We're outside. We're inside. We're in an elevator. We're up some stairs.

Like we don't know where we're going. They hand us these like blue or pink pins that we put on our lapels and then a little bag. And they say, put your phones away now. And they walk us over and we're just sitting there there's a full stage obviously the phones have come out of the pouch like we're not yeah bye bye pouch right bye pouch didn't make it to the show my life wow and it was a it was a great performance it was incredible and i personally am such a fan that there was no renaissance like i want to see renaissance when i see renaissance yes yes i agree agree i want to hear her sing i care i want to hear yeah i want to hear thank you i want to hear

the hit thank you and she's not going to sing like a queer ass motherfucking album in dubai do you know what i'm saying she knew the tone yeah yeah she knew the tone she knew and there's something about just seeing that woman live truly you are fucking floating above yourself the entire damn time how many times oh my god have you seen her like what was this in the like grand scheme of like beyonce live for you this was four oh yeah i'm from houston girl like her album yeah no no like how many times i've seen her no i know i know but i'm saying the same number as her album also second to b-day for me actually see four i for me it's beyonce self-titled four and then i do i am a lemonade fan like but it gets hard because

the thing is like i i love b-day but you start to split hairs it does exist at the bottom for me not because of any disrespect to B-Day but because her other work is so fucking good wow that's interesting that's a take there's not a disrespectful word in what I said sorry

you can look for it with the biggest magnifying glass in America you're disrespecting B-Day no I didn't. This fall on Bravo. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that.

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to get their take on the things that you bring us. While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, before we ask Renee the question, congrats on this tour. has it been these shows look

incredible and of course because the songs are stunning oh my god it's been so much fun i kind of always like have imagined like what like live shows and performances in my body of work would look like but um actually doing it is a completely different fucking beast because a i like overheat like really often and i wasn't really thinking about that it was like a fashion over comfort like sort of tour for me oh i see a lot of trench coats a lot of sweaters yeah and like there was a sweater in boston i know this isn't directly the question but like this is like a specific it's giving having been styled yes and the sweater in boston actually blinded me and then i started choking on it because it was it was shedding buzz in the it was shedding and i actually i was like if i pass out right now that actually kind of a moment and so i kept going

because i would have been so concerned like wow renee rap she burned so bright renee rap dead on the stage isn't she dead how is she like cause of death own iconic coat and this was my moment like i was like i have to pass out so i was like let me keep going but i also as a bystander witnessing this happen yeah i was concerned no well and then so i brought alia up on stage with me because i you know yes i saw i'm like how much more can i go right and also would it be even cuntier if like i pass out on stage and you witness my best friend maybe watch me like potentially lose my life like you would have cried i was a pawn no i was a pawn in a

ploy well i do agree that i do agree that if i ever start to die bowen should be there because they can get it on tape and that can go the other way around i feel the same way yeah and also would have been iconic renee had you like lost your life there on stage and there's a moment of Aaliyah sort of having intense grief and then she goes over to the mic and just goes but don't tell mama and I knew I would've to be clear yeah it like starts acoustic

and stuff and everyone's sort of like oh my god wait but also to be clear I also would've been left on the stage I would want to be there do not remove would have been left on the stage. Like, I would want to be there. Do not remove the back. Okay, it's giving the last of us. Don't call the paramedics.

DNR. Do not resuscitate. You're a DNR. Not a DNR at 22. That's a DNR. Like, I want to be there, you know? Like, put me in a little coma for a sec. Oh my god.

So anyway, you're slaying the tour the ep is fucking great i mean colorado is like i think maybe my favorite but that's a coloradan slay bone came out for my show that i was doing in colorado and we were spinning colorado we really were but what was the culture that made you renee raps that culture was for you i attribute so much of my personality my empathy my lack thereof my cunt my um obsessive everything is about me nature to this specifically as a kid two moments for me they're both gonna be housewives franchise moments love and go off oh my god can i say before you go there go yeah no thank you again for giving me the space permission to go off the first big moment because i as a kid with anger issues used to throw a lot of shit and really yeah was everybody sure um did anybody fight me back yeah they did yeah

they did so i'll never forget where i was or how i felt when theresa judice that fucking table yeah that was yeah yeah that was the conversation in the rap household the whole family talking about it the whole family Because it was like, it was a family affair. Like, it's such a big moment because I was like, internally, like, young Renee is like,

wow, that must have been such a fucking relief. Yeah. Like, you know? The unbridled physicalization of your anger. Aliyah taught me unbridled. Unbridled, no bridle.

You learned a word. I love when I hear it now. No bridle, no cat. No bridle. Zero bridle. No catled no bridle i love when i hear it no bridle no cat no bridle zero bridle and then the other one is madam okay can you more and it's the twirl it's the gone with the wind fabulous with the wind fabulous yeah it's always gonna sit with me like that because again these i understand these are both like fighting moments i don't know what that is saying about me i don't know what it's not saying i think it's more like what's between the lines here sure um people were taking their space yeah they were and hello i was throwing things okay she said she was gone with the wind fabulous and i was like you're so like ridiculous

and also like really anti what you're saying yet yeah perfect and years later yes she's still i think maybe the bar setter for maybe even what it means to be a housewife i would say kenya more is in top 10 i agree she really like has fucking and, and I wasn't like a super big Kenya person in the beginning because I was very specific. I'm like an OG person. When new people come in, I'm like, yeah, she really ate.

Speaking of new people and you going, we briefly touched on the Watch What Happens Live of it all where you were sitting next to Mia fucking Thornton herself. i had to give you your props because and i actually i was i was on it like two weeks after you with canvas and i literally i meant to say on the show shout out to renee rap who deserves an emmy for best guest in a drama for her performance on watch it happens live,

pretending that she was down with Mia Thornton's antics. Thank you so much because let me motherfucking tell you. Okay. Get, this is what I'm saying. This is your Dubai moment. This is your Beyonce Dubai moment. Take the NDA off.

The NDA has been removed. Girl. Hi. So girl, hi. I literally like when we were talking about doing Housewives, that was like, or doing Housewives, doing Watch What Happens Live, right?

That was like my dream. Yeah. My whole life. Like there's, for me, there's like a EGOT to it. And the W is Watch What Happens Live. Yes. It's an EGOT. EGOT to us.

And so it's an EGOT. I'm sorry. Take back out. EGOT, I misspoke.'re right I really wanted to do it so bad and they were like at first it was supposed to be Candice Matt and I was like fuck it no I swear to god I was like well that's my bitch like done

like also like hello the music industry on her shoulders let's be real yes drive back drive back drive back drive back the bop of the year the record of the year hello and so i was like okay well it's gonna be me and candace amazing and then there was like a change there was a shift a shift in the fucking schedule and then all of a shift had occurred a shift had occurred like oh well who is it and they're like it's mia thornton now like oh radio silence

radio silence i think i verbatim said i was like there's no way because like i again i'm very i actually didn't say that yet but i'll bring it up again i feel like i'm very judgmental especially the housewives right well that's kind of part and parcel you're meant to die and breathe for these women and yeah i don't fucking like her on the show to be clear and so the whole night i'm like what am i about to say because also i don't want to disrespect you like in a working environment like i'm sure you're right yeah i'm so i ask anybody one thing they'll tell you about me is i'm professional and we found that out earlier when you were like we show up that's it so we get there and also this is something that i said that actually was so true and this was like

my like recurring thing throughout the night like this is all i said in different fonts i was like i love your kids yeah yeah so cute and you know what not you didn't tell a lie and I will say what the one thing and I even said that I think by when I was texting I was like Renee rap is sort of slaying at sort of letting us think maybe she's down with Mia because but I knew intrinsically you can't be because I did. You didn't seem to me like a crazy person. No, you don't read that way. Also,

there's like, there's like a part on the show where like, I was really trying to like be like chill or whatever. And it doesn't cut to my face in this moment. But she said on the show, she basically started like body shaming Robin. And I got, Oh God,

I got pissed off. She said something about like, she was like, well, you know, Robin is built like da, da, da, da, da, da da da and i was like like a linebacker i remember she said this i was like you you just became scum of the earth to me bitch you did she's all became she's done been alia do you agree with this listen i like peace personally yeah so not me not me this

is also makes me the renee because i was on there a week after being like i was burning robin's family fun party down the family fun party yeah valid i like i understand you it was just so mean i was like that's just like ah that was just so fucked up valid it was fucked up and it was also fucked up in my presence i was like yeah i was like yeah and you know what they probably they probably knew they were looking in the control room and they were like oh that pissed renee off don't cut to renee i'm also like it also like tea like it would have been funnier if you cut to me i think but absolutely looking for comedy i'm no editor she's got the reactions these are all great answers from both of you. I feel like there is

an interesting moment with these housewives moments being sort of anger centered. Can I ask what your relationship with anger is now? Yeah. No, thank you for trying to question me.

So, so I, It's important because, because I'll go, I'll go. I was kind of, I have like some anger shit for sure for sure there are shouting matches with the family that would make your head spin all three of you i get that like truly like i and i kind of don't recognize myself and i get and matt's seen me in like in you know the veneer crack but like it's really taken a lot

of work to like fully move past I think I am mostly like beyond it I don't know I can't like fully say that for myself but um I'm curious about people who identify as having been angry maybe in the past and like how they have maybe progressed from that yeah if they want if they would like i'm in the thick of it i think so like yeah by choice that's that's great that's great but yes um it's shifted from the things that i get angry about right like when i was a kid i was really really really frustrated and i like was struggling a lot mentally right and so like i just have different areas of where my anger goes now my anger used to come like internally and then go externally now i get angry this is also why leah and i are so good together the story of

it all is going to be one of two things one okay if you disrespect someone i love or you disrespect me or you think that you have any sort of agency over my friend's space or my space you will you will fucking hear about it i don't care what space i'm in i don't care be it professional be it familial i don't i do not care i love it i love i don't like i don't like the sort of like oh let's like keep it you know kosher here nope that's not working for me so that's the one way and alia usually is even if it's like even if it's something that has happened like to you or to like one of our friends i like alia's like okay okay like mother will center me and bring me back down. Yeah. Now, the B side of this.

Aaliyah and I like to go out. Yeah. We like to go out. Uh-huh. Okay? When Aaliyah and I go out, we fight anyone. We get invites. We fight anyone.

I'm talking a range, right? What fights? Yeah. Let's go the range. Okay. There was an old woman at a theater. Oh, she had it coming. She was Chicago style. She had it coming yeah she was old chicago this just happened to me at kimberly akimbo really akimbo the woman in front of me turned around me and my friend patrick were laughing

because it was a funny fucking comedy musical comedy show god for fucking bid and she turns around and scolds us and I honestly had to like it was a moment where I was like look I understand there's like the respect your elders of it all but like this is not tenable this is not going to be tenable you're ageist Renee no I'm very publicly ageist

I don't fuck with respect your elders incorrect you disrespect any sort of thing surrounding me, you're done. So it ranges from that. It's the moms. It's the moms. That's what it is. Bowen just became mother in that moment with that therapy.

No, I'm sorry. Bowen was so mothering there. She was so mother for that, Bowen. I did not mean to cut you off. Because these mothers didn't have it like you have it, Bowen. No one's ever made that connection until right now. So what the fuck? It's because Bowen is one of the smartest women in America.

That's so true. What? Cherise? Grisha? Grisha. Cherise. I do like Cherise for you, Bowen. Like, me texting you, I definitely hear Cherise Jackson Jordan herself.

Oh, my God. Wait, Cherise? Where are we going tonight? Cherise is good. Cherise. I couldn't remember. Cherise Sharice? Where are we going tonight? Sharice is good. I couldn't remember. What was it? Chartreuse. Oh, I love Chartreuse.

Chartreuse. It could be anything. Cardamom. Charda. Charda. Cardamom. That's beautiful. Charda.

Wait, so the range is, okay, there was an old woman. Yeah. Yeah, she was just, honestly, she's probably, yeah, she was just racist old woman. Yeah. Yeah, she was just... Honestly, she's probably... Yeah, she was just racist. Really? Dead.

And then it's just the girls at the club. You know what I mean? Oh, my God. It's just the girls at the club that sometimes I don't have the patience for. That man in Taco Bell in New York. Oh, right. Sometimes you can't... That's the club now?

Okay. You know Taco Bell Cantina, the one in New York? 23? Yeah, we know all about it. 50th. I see. The one where you can get a cocky, as Marisol would say. Sure.

A cocky. You know, like a cocktail. You guys are watching Miami? You guys need to watch Real Housewives of Miami. I don't want to talk to you anymore. Guys, I don't think I can say cock. I don't like that. Cocky?

You can't say cock. You can't even look at them. You I can say cock. I don't like that. Cocky? You can't say cock. You can't even look at them. Oh my god. In my no cock era. If you're bi and you say cock, you're not bi. No, you're not bi. Bi people don't say cock.

You're so right. Thank you for bringing that up. I want to come out right now. I want to for bringing that up I want to come out right now I want to come out publicly I want to come out as straight as straight no because you say cock

oh damn it dang it I know we had a good thing there going great I know I know she went back

I'm sorry I think it's just gonna be that with zero cock please so I don't know how I'm gonna make that think it's just going to be that with zero cock, please. So I don't know how I'm going to make that work. Straight with no cock. Straight with no cock.

Okay. Straight with no cock. Straight with no cock, please. Boring. Okay, wait. So you two like to go out. So then to bring this full circle. You throw hands for each other.

You throw hands for each other, which I respect. I would fight for Matt. I literally, like, there's some guys in bone's life who if they ever if they ever act the way they've acted in the past they're gonna see long island pop all the way out and when i say long island pop all the way out i mean real mouthy and then when it's about to get physical i back off but you're just like immediately physical oh my god nikki i forgot about nikki well you have time it'll it'll come your chance will come oh that's gonna be her i don't think so oh shit some girl named nikki damn oh nikki in miami what went down in miami tell us yeah this was not even we weren't out we weren't uh we were getting a car we were getting a rental car mind you okay at the hertz yeah yeah we were

at the hertz yeah i want to as you do nikki nikki if you're listening babe fucking tune in because we're still talking about it and i hope you had a happy fucking new year so Nikki at the Miami Hurts one thing we've done on this podcast many times is name people and their place of work and we have gotten so Nikki at the Miami Hurts how could she improve? no they deserve this

well there was an altercation that went on there were quite a few altercations and we took different approaches here's our tactic when one tactic doesn't work you choose another that went on. There were quite a few altercations. And we took different approaches. Here's our tactic as actors. When one tactic doesn't work, you choose another. Good cop, bad cop. Yes, and you've got to keep it going.

So Nikki had a problem with the car we decided to drive off in. She said, you can't take that one. We said, why? And she didn't really have a reason. Nikki, why though? She had no real reason. She was just like, that's not one that you can take. I said, that's not going to work for me, girl.

We're already in the car. We're already, we're trying to pull out. We're at the gate. You know, all she's got to do is press the button, lift the lever and we're on our merry way. We're trying to enact the pullout. Right, yeah. She decides to halt traffic.

There's a line building up behind us. She said, I've got to call my supervisor. You can't take the car. We decide in that moment. Literally. With our friends. We decide let's employ every, every, pull every trick out of the bag. Because also I feel like most times, like I go from zero to 10 so quickly.

And I was like, I'm trying to be like a bit mature. Like I'm on a trip with my friends right now. Like, so I was like, let me like until y'all are ready for me to go and now that was the word that was used renee was in the back seat i was in the front seat our friend thomas was he's a producer he was negotiating right like he was giving her well you know i have the receipts right here like i've already paid for the car just he was giving that i decide my tact is going to be tears here i'm going to give you a cry i'm going to give you like this so mind you this is going on like 15 minutes you know it's like a long time she's directed traffic around us because she wants us to get out of this car nikki all of our luggage is in the car we are

in the car so i decide i'm going to give you so stressed out like i just can't handle conflict like whatever renee in the back seat goes just let me know when y'all want me to go and i'll go that's all that was said and I look at her as Nikki has walked off to get her manager and I was like alright Renee go in that moment Renee she's impulsive but she's smart she throws a hood

over her head she's like I'm incognito I was like DeMoy will not get me here no not today not in Miami at the Hertz it's never gonna be like hey DeMoy saw Renee Miami at the Hertz. No. It's never going to be like, hey, Jumoa, saw Rene rap at the Hertz. Absolutely acting violence. Anon, please. Anon, please. Anon, please.

And it was just that. Rene hops out of the car. And I think within three seconds, all I remember was Nikki saying, whoa, why are you pulling up on me? And Rene said, I'm not pulling up on you and then my my vision went black i immediately was in crisis mode i thought for sure princess would be thrown i nikki did she and then we got out so this is what happened nick you head he ran into the box i said why are you in there babe outside going okay you want to be in there? It got really heated. And you got out of the parking garage and was everything copacetic paperwork wise?

And we got the car. We got the car and then we went to Disney World. Let's go! Oh my God, a happy ending. A literal happy ending at the happiest place on earth. What was the favorite ride at Disney World? Guardians of the Galaxy. Bitch, the way I just did it. Oh god oh my god the guardians it used to be avatar but she's she's not hitting the way she used to i know now it's guardians it's because now the guardians cosmic

rewind is there and so how can you go do that and then go to avatar and like it hit the same it will it will hit so bowen has not been down to go to epcot to go do the guardians of the galaxy cosmic rewind but we have had a very sort of cathartic experience on a metric ton of edibles on avatar flight of passage absolutely me and sober wrong okay when i first went it's like right when they had first opened it me and my friend dylan mulvaney who you need to meet and we'll love oh yeah dylan oh yeah yeah she and i decided to wake up at the ass cracker john wait outside the gate take like two full like 10 milligram edibles and wait in the line at this point we were just like girls waiting in lines you know like we used to do um and we were

in that line for like three hours high as hell never been higher in my life yeah ride was everything everything did you cry i cry i did cry i have a video and we're like our manager olivia cried it was so pretty that moment where you sit in the cave and it's quiet think about that in avatar okay in avatar flight of passage on you get in the cave there's a moment where you pull up into the cave and you sort of sit in the cave and there's just a moment where you're on a disney ride that's supposed to like do things but you're just really quite frankly just sitting in the cave but you pulled up in the cave and then you see renee rapid a hood going i'm not pulling up on you bitch

can you imagine that was the height of the ride that was missing when i screamed i'm not pulling up on you bitch nikki hit in the game oh man nikki is not nikki why though i need to understand why though why though why did you have to become a villain on lost coach it's way worse than death what do you have to say what do you have to say alia say that hurt people hurt people and nikki so true she was having a bad day and she projected i have empathy now we've had some space i actually was likely projecting something you were fine this fall on bravo it's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that.

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I'm N.K. and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't

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While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to say this has been a long January. Yeah, I've had enough. We've really definitely been jerked out of 2022 into 2023. There's been a lot going on and it when it comes to venting frustrations actually come to the right place because we have a segment for that and we have arrived at the time where it's time to expel demons in one minute fashion bow i don't think so honey how would you describe it i can't do a better job than you just did it is a true exorcism your head is

spinning you are croaking in a vocal fry, calling your mother the worst things you can possibly call someone. Well, while a priest is, you know, screaming. Wow. You're really,

you're going with the exorcist thing. Well, I heard you say expel demons and I was like, yes, Linda Blair, more like Linda fag. All right. So listen,

that's Bowen, Linda fag. That's me i have something i have something this is matt rogers's i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey how the fuck am i supposed to eat mushrooms now after watching the last of us because everyone's head becomes a fucking mushroom and let me tell you something as someone who enjoys a sauteed mushroom with a steak dinner, I love mushrooms. And now every time I'm trying to eat a mushroom of the food varietal, not consuming of the drug varietal, I'll be looking down at my plate and I'll be seeing ushy, gushy zombie villains from The Last of Us. Also, The Last of Us in general, I don't think so, honey, that now to be part of the not only cultural cultural conversation i have to watch this zombie show that is scary but now to be part of queer discussion and discourse i have to watch this

i'm scared i don't think so honey me ever not being scared of a tv show i'm watching 15 seconds lives of college girls i'm doing jump scares honey sometimes one of these guys will come out one of these college kids with the body of a 32-year-old man in West Hollywood, and I'll be saying, I'll be spooked. She's fucking her neighbor in the one. I'm like, excuse me, that is a Sean Cordybone story, not anyone at this Ivy League college.

I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. The Thetas are all in West Hollywood. They're all living in West Hollywood, fucking each other. They look like Marvel superheroes, and you know they're all from WeHo in West Hollywood and fucking each other. They look like Marvel superheroes and you know they're all from WeHo. They all be fucking each other. And I want to see that show

too. Also, you rose awareness for something very specific there. All the men at this college look like They're 50. They're 50. They're 50 they're 50 she gives a five oh they're 50 but that's that's also important

when you're doing a high school or college show i think too is it's like in order for everyone to like really fuck you gotta cast 32 year olds or else? This is one of the most sexless times in media. And thank God for college girls for being out there. Showing fucking. It's as horny as I was. I used to have to leave class to go jack off when I was in college. When I was a freshman in college, I'd be in physical pain. Not anymore.

No, not anymore, honey. Now the kids are yanking it in lecture hall. Right in front of the teacher. Our friend. Yanking crank. What? What does your friend do? Uh-oh.

There's whispering in each other's ears. There's girlish whispering in each other's ears. I have to find it by mommy as the PR person. Okay, okay, okay. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. In every best friendship, there's one that's PR. And they say, can we release this information?

I think you're a PR. This is totally fine. I also, like, I look up to these sorts of people. Like, it's like an idolizing thing. Our friend fucked under the Eiffel Tower. Fucked under the Eiffel Tower? That's amazing. Yeah, I tell everybody that all the time.

Like, their secret is not stayed with me. Wow. It's so big. Like, that's one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world people come from far and wide to simply look at that and to fuck right underneath it is an idgaf energy that is really aspirational i don't know man yeah yeah i don't know man i don't know man let me guess they're hot yeah yeah 100 fuck yeah yeah yeah, I can't really eat mushrooms anymore. So that's my I don't think so, honey.

Bowen, do you have sort of one? I have one. I wonder if it'll resonate. It might just be specific to me. See, I don't like to hear that insecurity. And the next time that comes up, I want you to think like, why do I have to voice that? You know what I mean?

Because it's... Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is Bowen Young's I Don't Think So Honey and his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey replying with the heart eyes emoji and nothing else. What does it mean anymore? It's lost its meaning. If I'm getting a heart eye emoji response to my stories,

I can't tell if you're into it, if you're into me, if you're trying can't tell if you're into it if you're into me if you're trying to fuck if you're just being nice it means nothing anymore the meaning has collapsed i don't know what's being communicated anymore when it's that if these are the modern hieroglyphs then this one is fucking anubis okay seconds because i'm going who is that i don't know her i don't know that one that's that's how i'm feeling about the heart eyes emoji now whenever if you send me heart eyes emoji i'll go that's anubis to me i don't know who that is i don't know what you're trying to tell me you know exactly who anubis is i need us all to agree as a culture what hard eyes emoji means

regardless of context i need it right now personally to mean let's have sex and that's one minute i'm going to tell you what the emojis mean in response to stories and girls let me know if you agree okay hard eyes emoji means i love this i think it's so cute what you're doing like i'm in supportive in a positive way i'm'm here. Fire emoji, flame emoji means I'm trying to fuck. Or if someone just says something. I've had good friends do fire emoji and I'm going, I don't, the lines are being blurred.

Then you need to respond to them and say, Hey, listen, unless you're trying to fuck me, find a different emoji hun. Because when you flame my story, to me, it means it's on.

To be honest, like, I feel like I'm like, do I just mess with like aggressive people? Cause I don't really get emojis. Nor do I send like, it's on to be honest like i feel like i'm like do i just mess with like aggressive people because i don't really get emojis nor do i send like it's more like let's do it no where are you where are you let's do it now do you use punctuation no but i'm talking like i'm like people i don't know like these aren't i'm an emoji sender in a very sarcastic way. I send a sad face to hand up all the time.

I do think emojis are sort of the funniest thing, but wait, are you guys, this is just a sidestep, I don't think so, for a second, and I wonder are you guys people who sort of get flirty in the DMs or are you sort of past that? Now one thing about Renee Rapp,

that is what her DMs are for. The DMs are open. Yeah. Also, like, that's what my public platform is for. I really just, like, I don't, I'm a flirtatious person, I think. Yeah. Like, I flirt with you publicly.

I've done it for years. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's nice. Flirts be flirting. That's sweet. Flirts be flirting. And Renee, every now and then, I, yeah. That's nice. Flirts be flirting. That's sweet. Flirts be flirting. And Renee, every now and then,

I see you post some DM screenshots. You seem to return an unhinged fan DM with the proper fervor and enthusiasm. And I really respect this. I love to chat. I love to chat. Because even sometimes, if somebody says something mean,

I want to go back. I want to go back, right's talk about it fucking stupid i'm like okay and you actually look like trash so what i don't know i love a conversation also like i think my grandma has inspired me she loves to talk to people on the internet bro like she's obsessed yeah yeah i used to do the thing of like um when someone was nasty to me in a message or a DM or whatever I would respond and be like hey I saw this and I could tell you didn't think I would respond now that I have can you explain why

you did this and they literally always back down are like oh my god yeah I don't know why I did that like sorry I'm a fan like etc and I'll be like oh interesting but it's never no one has ever doubled down no i've also like done it to someone like a couple years ago there was an episode of the bachelor oh it was claire's season i don't know if anybody wants to special but long

story short there was a super super super fucking misogynistic guy and i like fully by the way i mean like this was like probably 2020 like i i was a public person at this point and i go i go into his things i'm like you motherfucker i'm like you don't deserve and he responded and i was like and you so you double down yeah i've been on both sides joni mitchell respect you've been on both sides now. You asked me what that was. Oh, and that's and that's my cusp. I was literally just going to say and that's what makes you cusp.

And it also just shows that we need that song to come back in the cultural conversation in some way. Absolutely. Okay, so Aaliyah, I think it might be time for your I don't think so, honey. Oh, God. I don't know if I can do it, but let's do it. Yes, you can.

Okay. This is Aaliyah Chanel Scott's I Don't Think So, Honey. Her time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey. Wicked losing the 2004 Tony Awards. And you know they lost to, I Don't Think So, Honey, they lost to Avenue Q.

The racist puppet musical that had white people in the theater running around singing everybody's a little bit racist as they ingest in fun gave them full permission to look me in my eye and say that avenue q said i said who wrote avenue q baby although i Q. 30 seconds. White men with their freaking Anne Harada's character and Gary Coleman character over Wicked. Mm-hmm. The musical of the century. Like, Wicked?

Yeah. We're talking a story that actually, truthfully, Say it. About racism. Say it. About a girl overcoming her skin color. Mm-hmm. We're talking about female friendship, love. We're talking about a journey overcoming her skin color. We're talking about female

friendship, love. We're talking about a journey. And you're going to tell me that the silly racist puppet musical is better? I think we should go back and right that wrong. As a community, as a people in the theater, I think we need to fix that. Thank you. That was brilliant. First of all. That's one minute.

Oh my god. We have not talked about this really on the podcast. Everyone needs to be speaking about it. Like best musical, Tony? That's fucking crazy. It is a piece of history that needs correcting. I think we can change this. If we can get a petition going, if we can rally

enough people, Renee. Take the Tony away from Avenue 2. It really is so crazy. And the thing is like you have to think maybe it's because they they could not have known that wicked would have the impact that it would have going forward because had they they would have been like oh yeah we're obviously going to celebrate this revolutionary iconic thing that is like changing the culture i mean i remember being in high school and like all my girlfriends in high school were like listening to that in their cars on the way to and fro school.

It was a culture shaker. Right. My only thing and I love Adina. My only thing, the only reason I can think is that it was a hard thing eight times a week. And in truth, it wore her out. And maybe that for the rest of her life, the rest of her life, it was. Renee is screaming. And maybe that's what did it.

If you do go back and watch... So you're saying if it's anything, you're blaming it, Dina. It's not good. It's not good. If you go back and watch the Tony Award performance from... You know what I'm talking about. It's tough.

It's tough. It's a very hard mountain to scale. It is. And the girls have figured it out now. Now we know that mixing is a thing and we don't full voice that. And that was just a different time, a different era. And I commend her for giving everything she had to it. I really

do. She's a better woman than me. Oh, yeah. I mean, the thing about Idina is, and we love Idina. And I've seen every time Idina is on stage now, I go see Idina's plays. I watch all of Idina's concerts it's on stage now i go i go see adina's plays i watch all of adina's you and i went to go see skin tight we went to see that fucking place skin tight if then yeah i saw if then and i thought okay but literally all the televised performances of adina

you can tell she gets nervous because it's because it's literally it's she obviously has the note. But I wonder if it's just when something is on television, she feels nervous and maybe isn't breathing right or like gets ahead of it or something happens where it sort of falls apart on television. But, you know, it's also it's a lot. It's a hard thing to be clear. I could not do it. You totally can't wait. Thanks, girl. I couldn't. i couldn't do that

can't wait to see cynthia though uh okay renee you ready yeah yeah yeah i knew it this is renee raps i don't think so honey her time starts now hi i don't think so honey to that bitch at french customs you still have me bent like about two weeks later here's why i was doing fine i had all my bags i had all everything ready to go when i was going into france i was like i was like let me have all of my information right okay and i had to get like a special little stamp because i was technically working well i'm coming out of france okay i'm going into london and i was technically working i had to get a little extra stamp right yeah she was like do you know how long you're here and i said no

because i don't hold that information i go wherever everybody else goes i'm not a logistics person we all know shows on my face it's very very clear as day bitch okay so i was like fine we get into a little tuft tift whatever and and she's immediately not fucking with me and then next i go to the conveyor belt these two girls are just next to each other at the conveyor belt. They're like, put your bags in here. I'm like, this bag doesn't close. They're like, put your bags in here.

I'm like, it doesn't close. It's going to fall out. They're like, okay, put it in anyway. And I was like, no, took the bag with me through and then started freaking the fuck out because I was like, I fucking hate French customs. And I've always been a little bit skeptical of French people. I think I've seen too much i was like let me just fucking give everybody the benefit of the doubt no i actually didn't because then a bald man afterward tried to get in our fucking way and apparently was yelling at my

mother and you don't yell at my mother no i, I don't think I'm a riveted. This was one minute and 40 seconds. Wait, I have to say, but we have to, we have to know what happened. Did you eventually get through? Like,

wait, what was it easy? Was it a hard process? Absolutely did get through. So she was like, how long will you be here? You said, I don't fucking know. Yeah. Well, because she had an attitude about her and I was like how long will you be here you said i don't fucking know yeah well because she

had an attitude about her and i was like well i don't i don't really i was honestly i was just being super transparent because i'm all about transparency and so i was like why and she was like well what are you here for i said work she said what kind of work do you do i said music she said okay do you know what you're she was like i thought you would have your paper i was like what paper i was like i gave you two pieces of paper it's got to be on there she was like is this you on your paper i was like of course that's me i was like it's a pasty little blonde bitch it's me honestly if someone's gonna have an attitude though it's the person at french customs yeah which also like valid and empathy extended all of that yeah yeah but when it's

upset something about i i love london the city i love the british people but something about me flying into london the other day yesterday even this fucking flight attendant on british airways talking down to me like crazy and then goes and then out of nowhere, I'm just, I'm trying to watch The Last of Us on my damn iPad. She goes, there's a reading light there. I don't know if you know that. She said, do you know that? The way she asked me, do you know that? I said, I turn to her,

I go, yeah, I know that. Like, don't fucking talk to me like this. Ever. In any class. I'm in business, thank you very much off of universal studios is dime but like something about heathrow these fucking customs people don't know how to look at this paper on and have to go through all their their little stamps it's so weird you want to know what's fucking crazy actually i was going to berlin so i guess german customs i verbatim the question that

i was asked i was like he was like how long are you here for again i'm like i don't know okay i'm like what are the people in front of me say because i'm with them so and he was like he was like um he asked me another question i was like sir i'm just really not sure and then he was like how much money do you have with you and i said how, how much money do I have with me? I don't really carry cash like that. Again, I'm fancy, okay? So I'm like, I don't really have cash. I was like, I have a credit card.

He proceeded to say, how much money is on your credit card? Incorrect. No. I swear to God, I walked up to my mother and I was like, I almost got into a tiff where I was about to really come for something and be No, it's a wonder I didn't go to jail in France because of the way

I acted. Hey, I'm in a French prison and a non-fuse but Rene Rapp is here. A non-fuse, a non-fuse. Soon. Yeah, I don't know. Soon. Everybody's Nicki from Hearth. Everybody's Nikki from Hertz. Everybody's Nikki from Hertz.

Yeah, surely. You have a lot of problems with other people and you're like, maybe you should look inward. I've been looking inward. No, I just have issues with others. Well, when someone's acting like Nikki from Hertz, they can't be surprised when they get treated like

Nikki from Hertz. I know what i'm saying i know i'm thinking people solicit conflict in order to test a boundary period so nikki from hertz is trying to fucking see where the boundary is look at the way they're reacting to that bone you've you've been mother on this you just spoke i period i've never heard a more true statement you really just spoke wow y'all any of us would break renee out of a french prison or a german one i mean we've been speaking so much on this episode you might call it the film women talking we've been speaking so much this was almost the movie women talking with how much women talked on this episode and i feel as though a word was said many times and i feel that we have

been blessed as as what we can really call ourselves bell and a duo by this duo and i see the future and it is bright it is very bright bright. These are stars. They're among us. They're with us today. I see stars. So many stars tonight. Okay. Right. You ate. Right. You could make

diamonds, though. You are so beautiful. Wow. I can't even sing more because You are so beautiful. Wow. Wow. I can't even sing more because I'm too emotional. Because this has been such an amazing ep,

wouldn't you say, Beau? This has been an amazing episode. The energy is off the charts. I'm telling you. I see stars tonight. I see stars tonight. Thank you so much, Renee and Aaliyah. We love you so much. This was great. I'm so happy I see stars tonight I see stars tonight thank you so much Renee and Aliyah

we love you so much this was great so happy to talk to you Ilya and Millie we love you both thank you for having us this was oh my god

you gotta be streaming the sex lives of college girls everybody it's really fun and like it'll lift ya especially after an episode of The Last of Us

that will destroy you and both on HBO Max and um listen to an AZP everything to everyone everything to everyone it's full of grace if you're not on it get on it

if you're not obsessed with the way she sings with the timbre of her voice when she sings it's easier to holding a grudge you haven't really lived and we end every episode with this song I see stars

so many stars tonight you could make diamonds dull you are so beautiful we're all stars stars beautiful we're all stars and the kid comes in

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