Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "I Have Had Three Arrests" (w/ Liza Treyger)

Episode Date: August 22, 2018

Did you know that Liza Treyger put her entire high school swimming career on the line to see a live taping of Oprah? Did you know she once had to take a Greyhound bus to Iowa to serve two days in jail...? Unrelated, but did you know Jennifer Lopez's mom won the lottery?Liza, Matt, and Bowen GET INTO IT ALL on this fiery ep. Topics include Housewives, Julia Roberts filmography, backup dancer success stories, Britany Spears, pool culture, diehard Leonardo DiCaprio fandom, and more!---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasLAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCASTforeverdogpodcasts.com/las-culturistas  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:56 This is so gorge. And I can't even. Annie, we love you very much. And honestly, if you're a recent listener to the podcast, you maybe didn't hear Annie Donnelly's episode. That's the one you go back and start on, bitch. That's a fun one. Because that is a funny, funny individual.
Starting point is 00:03:13 That's a funny, funny person. She is, oh, we're so happy for her. Annie Assqueef had an assqueef baby. She queefed the baby out of her ass. And it is beautiful. A beautiful ass child. Oh my God, that's so fun. Beautiful ass child. B- that's so fun beautiful ass child
Starting point is 00:03:25 bac come on um we have this is our first episode that we're recording back from jfl yeah honestly we haven't sat at this table in a in a in a minute a couple fortnights and a couple fortnights that's true um and so uh and our next our guest this episode oof pretty much like ruled the fucking school she she got to take over the Instagram handle for a day yes yes and you were also
Starting point is 00:03:49 you were the host of host with the most that one night okay yeah oh and then we ran into there was some trouble going down we ran into Andy Haynes
Starting point is 00:03:56 at the airport and he just like yeah and so he mentioned what happened at that show we don't have to go into it we can if we want there was lots of controversy at the JFL
Starting point is 00:04:02 he was like man Lisa's just one of those people who's just like she can go up there's just one of those people who's just like she can go up there and just talk so funny and she's just so goddamn funny
Starting point is 00:04:08 we're like yeah that's Lisa yeah that's good stand up let's go through the credits really quickly wait hold on super super quickly
Starting point is 00:04:15 hold on wait you just wait and then you can respond you can clap back Chicago you can see her at the Lincoln Lounge
Starting point is 00:04:20 August 24th and the 25th please go she is posted up there for two nights. You must go see her. And her Netflix Dirty Half Hour comes out in the fall, The Degenerates. And God, she has an
Starting point is 00:04:32 incredible fucking album called Glitter Cheese. And it's the handle too. I think you would be stupid if you were in Chicago and to not go see her perform at the Lincoln Lodge. And it's a hometown. It's home turf for her. Yeah. It's actually rule of culture number 14. I think that you are stupid if you don't go see Lisa. Please welcome our guest, Lisa Traeger.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yay, I'm so happy to be here. Oh my God, Lisa. You were like the beam of light of the whole fucking festival. You really were. I had so much fun. I love going there. Oh my God. It's like summer camp to me.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Yes. And I did two outfits a day. Oh my God. I love that. Bowen brought looks too. I didn't think to bring looks about looks i brought looks yeah i had an ex to impress you had to have an evening and an afternoon outfit yeah okay so was that stressful or was that fun for you to be like an ex is here i better fucking well we were long distance she lives in london so I was excited to see her
Starting point is 00:05:25 we hadn't seen each other since but like I we broke up over the phone you know it sucks so it was nice and I liked the bit of drama and I definitely acted crazy there was the night of the funny or die party I was like in the back crying
Starting point is 00:05:42 to Megan like my agent's assistant like she's not hanging like flipping out crying and then I checked my phone and there was a text from her being like hey where are you lost you at the party but I was like 40 minutes love I gotta say one of my favorite thing to do is to literally
Starting point is 00:05:58 immediately know you have emotionally overreacted so intensely that you're like wow I'm a monster inside yeah she's like the moment I saw your face I could tell you were already furious for no reason but it's fun it's fun to overreact it's fun it's gorgeous yeah I think she likes it
Starting point is 00:06:14 yeah she likes the drama too yeah I mean she likes people being mean to her I'm not that mean to her but I'm just um she likes I don't think she minds the crazy you're just being real You're just being real. You're just being real with her. Yeah, but it was fun.
Starting point is 00:06:28 And it's weird. It's like festivals are already so fucking overwrought to begin with. Like it's tough to have an ex thrown in there no matter what. Totally. But you were turning out the looks for her. But I definitely yelled at another person in an elevator who didn't deserve it. So there was general craziness. So what was going on?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Unpack this. Why? Why the screaming what went down I just didn't like her and she came into the elevator to smoke weed with us and I was just like
Starting point is 00:06:49 I think it's crazy that you're coming with us oh my god I live we I need to hang out with you more like Ramona Singer no I had to
Starting point is 00:06:57 10 minutes later I was like was that crazy and everyone was like that was insane look if you have to ask the question was that Ramona Singer there was
Starting point is 00:07:04 was that Ramona Singer that was was that ramona singer that was no ramona wouldn't say that i don't know i think ramona would go there bitch maybe not this last season but but do you identify as a bethany i hope not because bethany i want long-term friendships and she can't do that so i don't want that although you hear that you hear that i don't want to have multiple homes and complain about them oh I hate that but you hear that Jill Zarin's coming back well because they fired Carol
Starting point is 00:07:29 right but so but that's a long term friendship that Bethany just sort of just paused on it fell apart though for so many years
Starting point is 00:07:36 like they were only recently even chatting I think the funeral it took the death of Jill Zarin's husband for them to even start talking again but I do think
Starting point is 00:07:44 she'll be back because Bethany needs a friend. Yeah, she needs a friend. That's exactly what's going to happen. So they're going to bring back Jill. I hate that they got rid of Carol. I'm a Carol. I like Carol a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:54 She wouldn't accept the book cameo request I sent her. Really? Yeah. She's too popular. To write on your book? Wait, what does that mean? I wanted to send a congrats to Sabrina and Shauna for having a baby
Starting point is 00:08:05 and I wanted Carol to do it but because my friends got Sonia they said Sonia was one cheaper but two responded
Starting point is 00:08:11 within the day with a video and Carol didn't respond over a week how much did this cost Carol's only 50 bucks and then Sonia was $40
Starting point is 00:08:19 really they'll do that for 50 bucks well Carol didn't but yeah right but like in theory? Yeah. Oh my God, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Dorinda's all over that. Yeah, Dorinda's my favorite. I'm a Dorinda. Okay, yeah, you are a Dorinda. You are. I'm a Dorinda. Dorinda would say, it's insane that you're coming with us, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Drunk Dorinda would be like, Oh yeah, one sip of whatever it is in. Yeah, I want to throw night, like over the top uh themed parties for sure yeah and then get so mad the second one thing goes wrong the thing about dorinda is like i guess like remember that whole controversy when sonja had made a mess of the of the room and then left yes yes yes i made it nice no no not that wasn't it it was dorinda was so infuriated because sonja had stayed at the berkshires and when she left the room was like allegedly destroyed but like but i don't know if it was
Starting point is 00:09:11 like dorinda blowing out of proportion did they not show the room they they like i guess they i guess they did i don't know my bravo my bravo fans you gotta right my wrong here if i'm saying they didn't like show the evidence but i remember like it was so crazy because you really believed both you believe that someone would end a friendship over like things being a little messy in the room and you also believe that sonja would have destroyed the property yeah we've seen her house it's insane fucked it up wait um but i do like tinsley is saying the why room service. Why make dinner when I can make room service.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I do relate to that, but I'm not a Tinsley. When she was crying over the frozen eggs, that was one of the saddest moments on television. If you're a Tinsley, you need to, to quote another podcast, seek treatment because that's not good. No. On our recent, we were going to go to Fire Island or I was going to join them.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I didn't end up going, but like Joel called me the Tinsley of the trip. That's not true. Joel Kim Booster, it was the lowest moment in our friendship. I think you are a Luann
Starting point is 00:10:14 or no, you're not a Luann. I think I might be Luann. No. You are. You're snobby. That's not snobby. I have high highs and low lows. I'm not snobby.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You're not. Maybe I'm Luann. I have high highs and low lows. No, I think I I'm Luann I have high highs and low lows no I think I'm Luann because I have high highs and low lows and often demand to be the center of attention but like in a fun way in a way that's ultimately endearing yeah in a way that's ultimately us
Starting point is 00:10:38 I'm still a star no I think Luann's snobbiness overtakes everything like her delusional snobbiness. Okay. Interesting. All right. I just love how shady this season's been because they keep throwing back to Luann
Starting point is 00:10:52 giving etiquette advice constantly. And then she like fucks up her life the next take. Well, her kids are suing her now. Yeah, there's a lawsuit. I actually did not watch this season. So what's the latest? What's going on? You really pretended for a bit.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I know. I was like, oh, sure. Oh, the cruise. Wait, what latest? What's going on? You really pretended for a bit. I know. I was like, oh, sure. Oh, the cruise. Wait, what happened? What's happening with the kids? Well, the kids, that's happening right now. That's not our season.
Starting point is 00:11:11 She's gotten into some deep fucking shit. Like she basically, not that this is like deep fucking shit, but she relapsed and it wasn't even just a relapse. It was like a put, it was like a thing that was such a mess and her family was like really, really, really kind of coming for her.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Like, how dare you? Like, it was just such a bad relationship. And then she goes out every night and performs on like the cabaret stage. And all the audience is like cheering for her. And she's out there being like, yeah, I left rehab early. And they're like, woo! It's terrifying. Well, she's fucking her agent.
Starting point is 00:11:43 They're moving upstate. She sold the home and refused to give money to her kids. It's terrifying. She's fucking her agent. They're moving upstate. She sold the home and refused to give money to her kids. It's like wild. And this is all not being filmed. Yeah, this is not being filmed. But she didn't do the reunion, allegedly. No, because she had to go back to rehab. So no reunion.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Wait, that hasn't. Oh, it hasn't. It hasn't finished yet. Hasn't aired, but it's been shot. It's been shot. And so that's why they announced Carol was leaving. That's what they do. They wait till the day after the reunion shoots
Starting point is 00:12:08 and then the announcements go out about who is back. Like that's what happened on Atlanta when it was announced that Sheree wasn't coming back was after they had shot their reunion. The seating arrangement is going to be, it doesn't matter, like in the middle, it's going to be Carol and Bethany.
Starting point is 00:12:21 But I was rooting for Bethany always. I felt like I defended her for so many years and it's just like appalling. I can't anymore. She's turned into a monster. The abyss stared back. I do have a fun thing. So I was flying first class ones from LA
Starting point is 00:12:37 to New York and Gary Shields, her ex-fiance, was kitty corner for me. So I was thrilled. We get, what's it called? There was weather issues. We were in Detroit. But for some reason, they wouldn't let me in the lounge. But they did in LA New York. I don't know. It was the only time I had flown in the
Starting point is 00:12:54 flatbeds. But like, I should have been allowed in the lounge and they wouldn't let me in. And Gary Shields threw down his Black American Express and was like, I got her. Gary Shields. And you guys fucked. No, him and his old threw down his black american express and was like i got her ah so here's gentlemen yeah and you guys fucked no um him and his old friends didn't want to give me that much attention but i wouldn't leave them alone and i just kept asking questions but he was a name dropper
Starting point is 00:13:15 he has a photographic memory so he kept wanting to play trivia because he knew all the answers yeah those trivia people i don't think so honey yeah no the only game I like is and I hate who came up with it no I love it's Mark Norman's game and he's the worst but
Starting point is 00:13:33 but it's a fun game where you name an actor and then a number so it'd be like Tom Hanks 25 and then we could see
Starting point is 00:13:41 if we can name 25 Tom Hanks movies oh my god should we do one round? Like that's so fun. Wow, Mark Norman. Genia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Revolutionary. Let's do one round. Let's do one round and promote this Mark Norman game. Okay. By the way, yeah, Mark Norman invented this.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Okay, let's make it easy. Let's make it easy. Let's do Julia Roberts and the number is... Lisa, say a number. No, you do it. Okay. I'll do the number. Okay, you say the number. I was gonna say... Nine. Okay, you do it. Okay. I'll do the number.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Okay, you say the number. I was going to say... Nine. Okay. I was going to say 13. Yeah, I think... This is going to be easy. What lunatics do a zero or a five ending number?
Starting point is 00:14:14 Okay, let's do 10. 10. We'll do 10. All right. Ready? And... Oh, is it like a race? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:20 We work together. That's too easy. I think it should be 15. Let's just go in a circle then. 15. We'll do 15. 15. Multiple of three
Starting point is 00:14:25 we'll end on five rounds oh wow this is gonna be crazy okay I'm just gonna start it off my best friend's wedding runaway bride pretty woman
Starting point is 00:14:31 um ooh uh I believe there was one called um oceans 11 yeah okay mystic pizza
Starting point is 00:14:40 Erin Brockovich um ooh uh sleeping with the Enemy. Okay. August Osage County. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Mother's Day. Mother's Day. Okay. Collateral damage.
Starting point is 00:14:59 The Mexican. Oh. Oh, my word. Oh, I have one. My turn? turn? American Dreams America's Sweethearts do you mean to say? oh America's Sweethearts that was mine fuck
Starting point is 00:15:12 Ocean's Twelve are we gonna let that slide? we don't have to there was Mirror Mirror where she was the Cinderella I was gonna say like Ellen Shea didn't know that's Anne Hathaway so that's 13
Starting point is 00:15:26 okay great two more ooh baby yeah I'm really oh oh oh oh that movie that movie that movie
Starting point is 00:15:31 that it was Steven Soderbergh and he directed it Ocean's 13 no it was with George Clooney it was different oh my god no wait there's another one
Starting point is 00:15:40 Full Frontal I believe it's called okay well it's Lisa's turn no I think we could all work together now that it's down to the wire Full Frontal I believe it's called Okay well it's Lisa's turn No I think We could all work together Oh we're working together Okay okay Full Frontal
Starting point is 00:15:48 Joe can you check Oh my god Stepmom Oh That's 15 Can you just check That Full Frontal Is a Julia Roberts movie
Starting point is 00:15:55 Isn't there like A Jekyll Hyde one Or is that Mirror Mirror Oh no that's Mary Shelley No no no Mary Berry Oh my god
Starting point is 00:16:03 What the fuck Mary Steenburgen No no no Full Frontal Yes we Mary Berry. Oh my God. What the fuck? Mary Steenburgen? No, no, no. It's full frontal? Yes, we did it. We did it. Okay, great. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Wow, beautiful. I mean. That was fun. Thank you, Mark. Oh, but to go back to Bethany's fiance, he also kept lifting his shirt to show his abs.
Starting point is 00:16:17 No, did he have nice abs? And then the lawyer was like, you know, oh, you do comedy? Do you know Jeff Ross? I'm like, yeah, I know Jeff Ross. Ew. But that was his like.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Do you know Jeff Ross? He'm like, yeah, I know Jeff Ross. But that was his like, Do you know Jeff Ross? He was this lawyer who was really proud to know him. But yeah, it was a fun layover in Detroit for sure. There you go.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Do you do roast stuff frequently? I used to and then I lost one battle and I've not recovered. I get that. I've been, it like destroys me
Starting point is 00:16:44 when I think about it, but I would do it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that. I've been, it like destroys me when I think about it, but I would do it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would for sure do it again. I think that that would be something fun to get into. Why don't you,
Starting point is 00:16:52 have you ever battled each other? We've done competitive shows together and read each other all the time. We've done like weird iterations like Battle of the Divas we did. I want to see, what is it, Sluck? I would like to see Sluck
Starting point is 00:17:03 all the time. Sluck is retired. Sluck is retired. But here's's the thing people come out of retirement it's actually rule of culture number 66 people come out of retirement but I think it's because what we kept doing was it was like physically not feasible for us to keep
Starting point is 00:17:18 like no our knees were knocking do you have the dildo okay I've got the lipstick you've got the eyeliner okay great and then do you have the shirts the baseball cap great and I who's i was on costumes and bone was on makeup and often he was on the track too because my garage band is a nightmare my my laptop won't allow me to do it was just a lot of homework and we were just like i don't think this is worth it people did love it though but here's the thing okay so lisa like you get to go up on stage and just talk and people are like is that is that oversimplifying it like and people like love it
Starting point is 00:17:43 no but it's definitely jokes. But you guys are definitely the most talented. All the choreography is so crazy. There's barely any. What do you mean with that? I was paying attention on Instagram. Oh, well, yeah. That was a lot of choreography.
Starting point is 00:17:58 That was fun. That was something we worked on. Honestly, I think that- And you know all the words so fast to things. I think we bring something fun very fun to the stage wait did you love
Starting point is 00:18:08 your outdoor show oh my god wait Liza Liza was at our outdoor show I had to leave halfway through to host that show and I wanted to meet
Starting point is 00:18:16 with my ex and her agent for a little bit before but it was good of you to pop by and literally I wish I got to stay had it been a half an hour earlier
Starting point is 00:18:23 we would have just brought you on I'm not even kidding I would have been nervous but I. I'm not even kidding. I would have been nervous, but I've never seen someone slutty dance to Celine like that before. The French were confused. I'm a slut to all music. It was an outdoor show.
Starting point is 00:18:37 We did an outdoor, I don't think so, honey, divas edition. We opened with That's The Way It Is, and it was this outdoor show open to the public, and people were just confused as well. Well, I don't blame them for being confused. They were a majority family audience, and we were singing That's The Way It Is and I literally was dropping it and dragging it. I dropped
Starting point is 00:18:52 my hole to the ground, listeners, and dragged my hole on the said ground. I just don't get why they didn't. Isn't that their queen? I don't get why they weren't. They never got as excited as we thought they would. Okay, but then we had this discussion when we were at the pool. We had this divas discussion so Liza you used to be
Starting point is 00:19:07 I mean you love all the divas yeah but I think your number one in the past used to be Miley you have this whole fucking great bit yeah you love Miley oh yeah I do love Miley
Starting point is 00:19:14 what's what's give us the the scoop now like who's your favorite who's your least favorite what's going on I mean she's not a diva per se but I love Lizzo right now
Starting point is 00:19:23 okay Lizzo Lizzo is a diva Lizzo's a diva Liz Lizzo's a diva. Lizzo's like a gun there. Lizzo is, I like a lot. Yes. I saw her and then we watched one song of Haim and we're like, we gotta leave. We gotta go.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Oh my God. You're not the first person that said that. She's dynamic. Haim came after Lizzo and it was like, wow, that was a rough transition. Yeah. I love Haim. Lizzo would fucking twerk, would be one of the twerking girls for Big Freedia back in the day before her career.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Like Big Freedia like she like will constantly be like Big Freedia like help me out like in my career. She like. Oh I love that. Like she was like shaking her ass for Big Freedia. And now she's. I love backup dancer success stories. Yes. Jenna Dewan.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yes. Who's that? She is now Channing Tatum's ex wife. Oh yes. She hosts World of Dance. Of course. Also what's his name. What's his face that dated JLo for so long he's probably still a backup dancer but we know him Casper smart yes
Starting point is 00:20:10 he didn't have a career he just fucked his way to the top yeah yeah Brittany's doing that now too it's a personal trainer who I hear is a gay kept boy and is gay for pay also I don't know which is true but I heard he's you know okay where are you getting all this scoop um I thought it was from you guys no um who told me about he's kept no it's someone I don't trust actually
Starting point is 00:20:34 it's someone I'm happy that we're spreading it as gospel yes yes yes this is the first time I think she's you know kind of an airhead she found a young personal trainer let them fucking work out together her back looked so good
Starting point is 00:20:48 like she looked good did you see her live I did I went on Monday I went last right before yeah right before JFL what'd you think I've never seen Britney
Starting point is 00:20:56 so it was like huge it was kind of like what I feel like I've been working my whole life to finally get to do and I went with Jake Wilson who's and
Starting point is 00:21:03 that's his number one he's gone to every single tour loves Britney she looked incredible the dance moves were on fire was a two hour show she did fix her ponytail a lot so there was a lot of like said that there was a lot of that of the ponytail and then looking at herself at the monitor like it was the eighth
Starting point is 00:21:19 grade like we called it the big show like the talent show bitch like it got me back to listening to all this Britney I hadn't listened to in a while. I've been really feeling some stuff. But I wish there was some stuff. I wish she played a little bit of Lucky and Sometimes, but there's no ballads. It's all like the pop party. Can I tell you what my favorite Britney song is that I actually have on a playlist called Now?
Starting point is 00:21:40 The Bastic Love. Which is it? It is. Don't let me be the last to know don't hold back just let it go it's so good it's a good ballad but i mean god soul cycle matt and i went to a soul cycle class ariel britney britney soul cycle it was largely britney it was like a britney like it was like britney medley and it went from like sometimes first of all sometimes oh so good on the bike on the bike it's great and then like it just
Starting point is 00:22:06 it's everything. It's all her big heads. Ariel Padilla everybody. We're giving them another plug. I want to go to Brittany's SoulCycle. Do you do SoulCycle? No. It's very fun. It's cool. I think you would like it. It's hard. Yeah I have one friend who's really like drank the Kool-Aid and she keeps offering
Starting point is 00:22:22 to pay if I go so I will go with her and test it out. It's not Kool-Aid. People keeps offering to pay if I go. So I will go with her. It's not like, it's not Kool-Aid. Like I, people are like, it's like a cult, but I'm like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It is not. But I walk in and I'm like, okay, I understand how this is lame in its ways. I understand how it's cool in its ways, but I'm like, but as long as you don't fall for like. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Anything could be a cult. Like watching a certain TV show, we could call Riverdale fans. A cult. Cult people. Whatever. Like they just like it. People like SoulCycle. It works for them. Yeah call Riverdale fans cult people. Whatever. They just like it. People like SoulCycle, it works for them.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so the reason why we were digging into the Britney being critical thing, like you should be more critical of Britney, is we had two people go who were like, it sucked. Yeah, I saw that Instagram story too. Dave Mazzoni was, he did not go lightly. I watched all of it.
Starting point is 00:23:02 I wrote to him on Instagram. I had a great time. We had great seats. We were like eighth. We weren't in the pit, but we're like eighth row orchestra. So that might be different. But she looks happy and cool. Are you a staunch Britney defender?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Yeah, she's everything. I like her a lot. I've always liked her. I like her denim shorts. I like it so much. She's a liked her. I like her denim shorts. I like it so much. She's a good mom. I like that she still eats at Cheesecake Factory.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that about her. She's always like a trash Louisiana girl. And always will be. She shops at like BB and Guess. Yeah, I mean, it was weird to see her like sort of start her adult years as a pop star. Like for example, when the album In The Zone came out. Yeah. Like to see her sort of begin this sort of intelligent adult.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Like we were talking about this. To realize like her full potential. Do you remember when we were in the van coming back from the gay bar in Montreal and we talked about how Brittany, there was this interview with Diane Sawyer. Yes. Brittany. Yes. And there was a song on In The Zone about masturbation it was called
Starting point is 00:24:08 The Touch Of My Hand. There's a violin. And so we remember that song being very much about masturbation and so Diane Sawyer asked Brittany you have a song about masturbation on here this is a lot different like can you explain and Brittany goes well the thing is about masturbation I think it's
Starting point is 00:24:25 kind of sacred and what she's saying there is like maybe not the smartest thing in the world but it is like an original intelligent thought she has an opinion for the first time ever and diane sawyer was like you think it's what and she literally you saw britney go oh you know what actually i got confused i'm sorry i got confused so like her this poor thing like the first time she has a documented opinion about something and it's about sex which is like should be even more empowering they shamed her someone is there to be like what the fuck are you talking about yeah they shamed her changed her like i don't know like it's it's so well documented the ways that she was like broken down and like it's whatever. They were awful to her.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Oh, yeah. Give her a break. But she to me why I don't I don't care whatever she does is not up to par all the all the time. Yeah. She did something that no one has ever done ever again and ever did. Yeah. She was the hottest thing that's ever happened in this time period. And it was just like she hurt her peak to me as the hottest person that's ever lived.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Like, yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. It's true. Like boys wanted to fuck her at her peak to me is the hottest person that's ever lived yeah you're right it's true boys wanted to fuck her girls wanted to be her that's a very rare thing to have everyone like you parents like you everyone liked her it's true
Starting point is 00:25:38 at her peak she was like the ultimate sex symbol since like Marilyn, probably. And probably still at the same time, still somehow be able to maintain America's sweetheart. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah, but it's fucked up.
Starting point is 00:25:53 But they did her the worst. Like I think they, I don't know if they, I think we treat pop stars a little better now, but like making her say that she's a virgin and just like talking about her tits. Well, the majority of them seem to have creative impact now or at least the really famous ones yeah i'm sure it's still garbage when they're developing artists and then what they make them do i'm sure is fucking insane but in terms of like the big pop stars now maybe it's just because the world has matured emotionally
Starting point is 00:26:19 and intelligently or at least like the liberal world now it seems like what we react to is at least maybe this is people our age too but it's like in beyonce's intelligence and the kind of like ways that she's pushing forward like the way we think about the world that's like a lot but like that doesn't seem to be something we valued back in the late 90s yeah okay so you don't think beyonce like at her peak or her current peak now is not like the same the same thing as, like, Britney back then? Maybe because I was in junior high. But to me, that moment with Britney is just – because Beyonce grew in her career. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 It was Destiny's Child for a long time. And, like, she grew to this – I mean, Beyonce is everything. But, like, it took her a decade or so to get there. Britney was just 16, muscular, tan. Fully developed 16-year-old girl. And talented. And talented as fuck, muscular, tan. Fully developed 16-year-old girl. And talented. And talented as fuck.
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Starting point is 00:27:42 Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going gonna welcome you guys all to dudes on dudes i'm a dude you're a dude and dudes on dudes is our brand new show we're gonna highlight players peers guys that we played against legends from the past and we're just gonna sit here and talk about them and we'll get into the types of dudes what kind of types of dudes are there grunts we got studs wizards we got freaks or dudes dude we got dogs dog we'll get into the types of dudes. What kind of types of dudes are there, Gronk? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks. Or dudes dude. We got dogs.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Dogs. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest
Starting point is 00:28:39 and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine.
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Starting point is 00:30:32 or wherever you get your podcasts. People are always like, the thing about Britney Spears is she's not talented. It's like, Britney Spears is extremely talented. She maybe doesn't do exactly what everyone else does.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Like MTV wouldn't have been anything without her too to me like her making of the videos were the best she was a true video vanguard yeah you know who's getting that award this year Jennifer Lopez I'm okay with that I like that horn love don't cost a thing I love I love I remember that making
Starting point is 00:31:00 of the video we remember also I remember her picking the horn necklace like I just can't that was peak that was I think peak jlo really and she's she's grown and changed and evolved too and she had she like had like a low moment in her career but that like benifer jlo remember that that was before i think benifer like love don't cost anything but he was in he was in i think the love don't cost a thing video he was Affleck. But he was in, I think, the Love Don't Cost a Thing video. No. He was in one of her videos. I think he was in the other one where he squished her butt. Yeah, what was that one?
Starting point is 00:31:28 I think that was a later song, I think. It was off the same album as Get Right, I think. I don't know. I think it was that Love album she put out. No, J-Lo was the name. No, not Love. Love was 2009. Yes, it was.
Starting point is 00:31:41 It was an album called J-Lo. You guys have so much knowledge. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just conjecturing. I mean, we're literally just like searching. You know what we, okay, we did a show recently where it was LA Glacier's Haunting Renditions
Starting point is 00:31:52 and they did a cover of I'm Real by Ja Rule featuring J-Lo. I love that song. One of my favorites of all time. We totally forgot that J-Lo fucking drops the N-word in it. She totally says the N-word in that song. She totally says it. I literally turned to Bone and I was like, I realized it and I was like, does J-Lo say the N-word in it she totally says the n-word in that song she totally says it I literally turned to bone and I was like I
Starting point is 00:32:05 realized it and I was like does JLo say the n-word in this song and he goes no I was like no fucking way and then I google the lyrics and I'm like oh my god she fully did like that's crazy one time it's this hook where she's like where she's like referencing
Starting point is 00:32:21 like oh he's not like others or something and like she like throws in the word as a way to be like it's really soft too like the delivery of his of it is like really in her like soft falsetto it's that part where it's like um now I can breathe again baby now I can breathe again it comes in
Starting point is 00:32:38 somewhere there and you're like she drops it and then people just have this like weird amnesia about it and then so then when I googled this I was like, did JLo say that? I literally typed in Google. Did JLo say the N word in Ja Rule? In Get I'm Real.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Did JLo say the N word in Ja Rule? In I'm Real. And then this article came up where it was like, JLo's having a tough week after, after taking some fire for tweeting an all lives matter tweet people are now like hopping on her old lyrics like she apparently tweeted some all lives matter bullshit like people I mean
Starting point is 00:33:13 remember when her mom won the lottery and it's like just stop it wait when her mom won the lottery and her sister is like a popular like local news anchor like in the Bronx I'm not kidding. They don't need this. It's so funny.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Oh my God. Her mom won the lottery? Yeah. That's insane. J-Lo, she's, J-Lo's one of the legends of all time. She is,
Starting point is 00:33:36 but with having the least amount of talent too. She can dance like a motherfucker. She can dance. She is at least Britney level at her peak in dancing. I'm telling you. 100%. But like the acting is.
Starting point is 00:33:47 I live for the acting. The singing is it. I do. I like Enough. When you said Sleeping with the Enemy, I love those movies of like. Rom-coms? Oh yeah. No domestic violence coming back at you.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's true. You ever remember Enough? The J-Lo one Enough? Yes. Where she had literally had enough. Yes. Okay. But it's so scary
Starting point is 00:34:05 but i think they should just show it at school when men are like why don't you just leave like yeah i just think everyone should just have to watch enough and then inside out to learn that's great and this children's we're gonna like literally the only movie i ever watched that they ever showed like popular movie was probably like we saw Roots and we saw Glory and they were like and we're adding to the canon enough. And Osmosis Jones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Like fucking bullshit. Oh my God. Wait, we did watch Osmosis Jones. Yeah. Because it was literally Anonymy. How to do the body. So bad though.
Starting point is 00:34:38 So awful. It was a bad movie. Was it Eddie Murphy? No, it was Chris Rock. Chris Rock. Yeah. Yeah. And then they had a TV show
Starting point is 00:34:44 and it was just bad. Chris Rock. Yeah, yeah. And then they had a TV show and it was just bad. It was bad. Ooh, man, I gotta tell you about this meal delivery service that I love. Tell her about it. Ooh, tell her everything
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Starting point is 00:39:28 Ditch whatever you're wearing for a pair of TomboyX underwear. Go to TomboyX.com slash LasCulturistas. Okay, but so faves now. Brittany? But when you were talking about how pop stars now have more agency, like I feel with Miley, like when people are like, she's naked and young. It's like she's pretty androgynous
Starting point is 00:39:46 and weird and like not wearing makeup and being kind of gross and creepy and I think she's not doing it for like dudes I think she's just being naked that was a cool time I thought big fan that was yeah that was such I mean for a second there she
Starting point is 00:40:02 was dominating the conversation just like August of 2013 after the VMAs, it was just like nonstop. But then she had an amazing quote, because like weeks later, they're like, the performance, and she goes, listen, you're still talking about it, and I'm on to the next thing.
Starting point is 00:40:15 It was cool. Do you remember like there was like footage of her preparing for her performance? Like I think after it came out, like maybe it was on MTV or something, but like it was her meeting with Britney. And like she was like, yeah, this is what I have planned for her performance like i think after it came out like maybe it was on tv or something but like it was her meeting with britney and like she was like yeah this is what i have planned for my performance and britney was literally in her eyes she was just like yeah cool yeah you got to get their attention she like literally you could see her like remember like oh yeah i remember when
Starting point is 00:40:36 i used to do crazy fucking shit at the vmas like i came out with a fucking snake you got to get their attention and it was just this understanding of the industry that was the VMAs, which is literally create controversy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's what it is.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Wild. They understood the assignment. Yeah. Gaga would do that. Gaga understands the assignment perfectly. Yeah. During the concert,
Starting point is 00:40:59 Britney reminisced. She's like, you know, when I was here at Radio City and talked about like the kiss with Christina and Madonna. All the moments. The kiss. And Madonna was the first one that knew. I don't, when I was here at Radio City and talked about like the kiss with Christina and Madonna. All the moments. The kiss. And Madonna was the first one that knew. I don't know if they were all at Radio City though.
Starting point is 00:41:10 The oops I did again where she like fucking goes, she goes no satisfaction into oops. That was Radio City. That was Radio, oh yeah I guess. I think that the kiss was Radio City for sure. And I think Slave for You was Radio City. Maybe. Cause I know, I remember the Backstreet Boys
Starting point is 00:41:26 did Larger Than Life. I remember that was at the Opera House, I think, or something like that. Oh, uh-huh. I remember the outside shot. That's when we got cable
Starting point is 00:41:34 in 99. Nice. They do it at Radio City now, right? I think they switch things around. I think it's in Brooklyn sometimes. Didn't they just do it at Madison Square Garden?
Starting point is 00:41:42 That's where it was. They just did it. And in LA. Like, I think it's just in arenas now. No, they't they just do it at Madison Square Garden? That's where it was. They just did it. And in LA. Like I think it's just in arenas now. No, they did the Grammys at Madison Square Garden. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But then VMAs, I think they're gonna do in Brooklyn again. Oh, the Barclays, right. Barclays. But I haven't watched the VMAs in a really long time. It's not the same culture.
Starting point is 00:42:00 It doesn't mean the same cultural thing. Not since Miley. Truly. Wow. The last time I think there was something that I think cool people our age cared about for a good reason was probably the Miley thing. And I guess like Beyonce's performance last year when she won the Video Vanguard. Oh, that's the one.
Starting point is 00:42:17 The thing about Gaga, I like her so much, but she makes me cringe so often. And one of the cringiest is when she brought up Britney Spears for the Vanguard Award. As that character. And as that, yeah, the boy character. And it's just like, I hated it. What was the joke? Halderon. And then I think she asked for a kiss
Starting point is 00:42:34 and Britney was like, please get away. That was actually the perfect move for Britney to not play ball and be like, no. No. It's so weird. Why are you taking away from, I don't know. That was, I hate when she talks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Lady Gaga, I have never been a bigger fan of Lady Gaga than over the past four years because she's not doing, like art pop, I think is actually underrated and I love Joanne, but the Born This Way era huge pop star Gaga.
Starting point is 00:43:02 She was being a 25 year old. Yes. And I think now looking back on it, it's not genius as much as it is just like a pop star Gaga. She was being a 25-year-old. Yes, and I think now looking back on it, it's not genius as much as it is just like a pop star being immature. And just like fucking around for the sake of her. And the work was amazing. The music was amazing.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I think Born This Way, the music on Born This Way is totally amazing. But the antics, and those antics did go into art pop. That era, I don't miss. The one that I feel embarrassed about, but I love that song with R. Kelly. I know, I don't miss. The one that I feel embarrassed about, but I love that song
Starting point is 00:43:26 with R. Kelly. I know. It's such a good song. I love it. Well, then listen to the Christina version. Who does she do it with? Christina.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Christina Aguilera. Oh, it's just the two of them? Yeah. There's a different version which is Christina and Gaga. I didn't even know that. Cool. The first time they ever did it
Starting point is 00:43:40 where they sang live together on The Voice, Gaga came in and they did a performance of The Voice together and it is such drag it's emotional it is high drag
Starting point is 00:43:48 they act too they go over during the bridge and they sit on a chaise lounge and they turn to each other and they like act the song like it's fucking dynasty and it is high drag yeah do they kiss or anything do they get close Christina rests her head.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Gaga rests her head on Christina's bosom. And that's his, that's his entity. I wonder if Christina thought she'd be a bigger star for longer. I think so too.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We talked about this. I mean, her most recent album is trash. It's a flop. It's bad. I don't, I can't even.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah, because you don't even care, right? But she's trying so hard at like relevance and coolness and like edginess. But it's like, no. Who would have ever thought she'd have been the one that got left behind? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:31 I know. Back in the day, like when you used to see like. Like even Pink's doing better than right now. Pink performing, Britney performing, Justin performing, Alicia Keys performing. Like all these artists now, you could see them performing on an award show and you'd be like, yeah i get it but with christina it's like it's because she never had anything to say like she's not stripped i think it's the best album ever but i think that's a lot of linda perry you know i think you might be right i think it's a lot of her but you know what's fun is we're re-watching making of the videos and di. Cause these girls are 22 and so self-centered.
Starting point is 00:45:06 It's really funny. Crazy. Even watching paint, like talking about the depth of these albums, but no stripped is so good. I went to that. I remember I had a t-shirt with the Christina, the cover of stripped and my history teacher was like,
Starting point is 00:45:18 you know, you shouldn't be wearing that. And I was like, why? And she goes, cause the lace looks like pubic hair. Honestly, I have respect for her I have respect for your teacher because the lace looks like pubic
Starting point is 00:45:34 hair just like laying it down I think Lisa's just giving it extra oomph in the delivery that the teacher I don't think the teacher was as funny as you no she did good I forgot her name but she was bonkers for sure. Were you guys, you did theater in high school? We did.
Starting point is 00:45:50 I was a theater person. You did none. I hosted the talent show once and I was in Peter Pan and Seven of the Greatest, like one of the like pirates that dies. What were you doing in high school? I did sports. Yeah, he was like,
Starting point is 00:46:03 he was a classic Zac efron high school musical like situation my identity was completely different i've changed a lot it's crazy but did you sing ever in the locker rooms i would sing every now and then like my friends would go to karaoke i would really sing and they'd be like wow you're a good singer and i was always like no no no that's just for fun it's karaoke and then and then but i think not even like that they knew who I was. Track and cross country and I played baseball
Starting point is 00:46:27 for a long time. Okay. But my, you know, my head like a sports dad. Did you do like theater or what was your deal in high school?
Starting point is 00:46:33 I did theater but I was on the swim team and then I quit two weeks before senior meet. I think you're like, because I went to Oprah and missed practice to go to Oprah.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Absolutely. And it was for, I think you'll like this. She says. And it was the episode for Save the, not Save the Last Night. It was the Just Dance. So it was for... I think you'll like this. I think you'll like this. And it was the episode for Save the... Not Save the Last... It was the Just Dance. So it was Richard Gere J-Lo and Susan Sarandon.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Oh my God. The Shall We Dance. Yeah, Shall We Dance. So we got to go to the movies. We got boxed lunches. And then we got to go to Oprah. It was my mom and sister. And like my sister's husband wrote to Oprah and was like, we love Susan Sarandon so we got to go and I got the next day at practice he's like where were you and I was like I told
Starting point is 00:47:10 you I went to Oprah he's like I thought you were gonna try to make practice I'm like yeah I tried did you want me to take a private jet and he went you know what I'm sick of your attitude and everyone's sick of your attitude and I went I'm sick of your attitude I love it I love it and then I didn't get all the attention of senior me and it's like what have i been doing for four years just swimming non-stop did you still get your varsity letter um no and my record got beat pretty quickly after too but you were a good swimmer i had a jv record i was fine like i was for butterfly the good good girls were like a minute and i was like at a minute 13.
Starting point is 00:47:45 Still. So I wasn't terrible, but I couldn't. Oh my God, this Oprah. That is so funny. I was a lunatic though. I had so much rage. I mean. Rage? Yeah, I would fight a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Wow. Okay, wait. Just not physical. Yeah, there was a lot of screaming matches on the pool. Or if like someone would touch my feet, that means I wasn't, I was a lot of screaming matches on the pool. Or if someone would touch my feet, that means I was slow. And I'd get so competitive. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I love that. That's funny. I love that. Do you feel that that competitiveness has carried over into your professional career? Or have you mellowed? No, because I'm really not competitive in most. Heads up, maybe I get competitive.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Heads up. No, because I tried swimming at the Williamsburg Public Pool, and I got into fights with people there. I can't swim. Over what? Over people touching you? No, because if I touch you or if you could tell I'm fast, move to the side and let me do a flip turn,
Starting point is 00:48:36 why are you grabbing? Like, get the fuck out of my way. Oh, my God. So, like, I just ended up having to pull someone. Oh, my God. You started in the pool. Like a grown ass person. The pool is the problem.
Starting point is 00:48:48 The pool brings out, honestly, that is a real true fact, which is that once you start doing something that you were an immature part of your, like that was an immature part of your life, you do go back. You revert back to that behavior.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Oh really? Oh my God. Like whenever I'm with my parents, like sometimes I'll hear my, I'll hear the way I talk to them and I'm like, i 15 that's what i do but i didn't really are you mean to your parents yeah we're all mean to our parents i'm trying to be better about it uh every time i go home i'm like i won't yell at my dad i won't yell my dad he's 80 he's trying he's doing great you gotta be kind and then it's, I just explode on him every time.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Well, cause he doesn't know how to communicate. So everything is like a, like he's like, did you read that? Do this. Can you pick up that? Go through that.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Are you going to eat this? And it's like, I just lose it. Russian immigrant parents. Yes. Okay. And so are they, so they're,
Starting point is 00:49:37 are they just, they're just, they're not used to like this Western, like these Western ways of like telling, saying how you feel. Is that it? Or is that too much? No,
Starting point is 00:49:44 my mom is trying hard and now I'm uncomfortable but um I'm working on it because it's too late because my dad's trying that now and I'm like
Starting point is 00:49:51 this is okay I love I love that you're putting in the effort but like something's off no my dad's not going to synagogue I know but my parents are how old are you
Starting point is 00:50:00 they're in my mom's 70 something and my dad's 80 yeah they're in their mid 60s so they once you get that close to death you kind of start
Starting point is 00:50:07 being a weirdo I'm gonna try to get them high this next time I'm home have you gotten them high before no they're so against things but they're just dumb and don't get it but like
Starting point is 00:50:16 my dad's in all these in pain watching Russian TV all day it's like might as well be stoned literally he's drinking pint glasses of vodka it's like just smokes.
Starting point is 00:50:25 I mean, it's smoke. Eat an edible. I'm going to get him some gummies, I think. Slip it in. And then they get on each other's nerves. I just feel if they're stoned,
Starting point is 00:50:31 they're going to enjoy their lives. I 100% feel the same way. Not that my parents need too much help enjoying their life. I think that they're doing great. But the thing is like, my dad has back problems and they were in my apartment the other day after we taped Fallon.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. And like. Your parents came? They came to oh no yeah well Bowen's parents are all the way out in Denver yeah um but my my parents are Long Island so they came in and they got to go to the Tonight Show which was exciting um but then afterwards they were in my apartment and they like all my weed is like I really don't care anymore yeah I used to care but now they know fully firmly and I was just like making a joke about smoking. And my mom was like, oh,
Starting point is 00:51:09 your dad ate an edible and had a horrible experience. And now I feel like we got to the point where he tried it. Yeah. Or like, I don't know if he doesn't do it, but like they told me he did. And he had a bad experience. And now I feel like it's ruined.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Edibles are also such the onset. I had a 50 milligram one this week and it zonked me out. Wow, wow. I can't even do, five fucking kills me. 10 makes me a stone bitch. 50?
Starting point is 00:51:34 How are you, Lisa? Well, you're the connoisseur. No, it fucked me up and then Ricky Velez gave them to me and he said when he was on vacation at Hamptons, he would eat four of those a day. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:51:45 And I was zonked. I was I went to the Mindy party and I was like I gotta go. Oh you were there. And then I laid on the velvet couch. You were there? I got there after so we performed at a car club garage. Okay. So that's where I got I got the edible. So basically we
Starting point is 00:52:00 performed at this and the peers on the Hudson Yards. And it's like all these fancy cars and all the people that have a car club. Fucking in Manhattan? Yeah. Whoa. And so we performed with all these cars behind us. It felt like the Purge.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Oh my God. Like Lamborghinis and just old Mustangs. Ew, that's so weird. I think it's so funny. Yeah. And we only got 25 bucks and like you millionaire pieces of trash. This sounds like a fucking gala. Yeah. Okay, so you performed there.
Starting point is 00:52:29 But great drinks and then he gave me the edible. I went to the party and I don't think I was there even 40 minutes. Yeah, we didn't see you. We didn't see you. This is the 50 milligram one?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Yeah, and then people were going to someone's house or something. I was like, I can't. And then I did order food but I passed out and I was awoken by... Oh, that's always my greatest fear is that I'm going to someone's house or something. I was like, I can't. And then I did order food and that, but I passed out and I was awoken by, Oh, that's always my greatest fear is that I'm going to be asleep when my delivery comes.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Wow. Yeah. It was a lot. I mean, my therapist is so mad. I'm smoking weed, but it's like so crazy. I mean,
Starting point is 00:52:58 I'm, you know, I'm going to smoke a joint again when I get home. There you go. You got it. No, I don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:04 We, we got to ask you what we ask all of our guests. Okay, yes. Which is, what is the culture growing up that made you say culture is for me? Yeah, what made you
Starting point is 00:53:10 such an angry pool fighter? What was like the book, the TV show, the movie, the neighborhood you grew up in? Whatever it is that like is the formative thing that made you feel that way? So I think the number one
Starting point is 00:53:20 formative thing. So when my mom moved to America, well, she loves something like she loves movie stars i'm like like she loves movie stars and she remembers so her like old her russian friends are like you're gonna move to america and be amongst the stars and then we were like in skokie you know but that's when we saw richard gear drive by my mom was like i've waited so long to see no we went to oprah oh my god oh right right right i thought you just saw chance saw Gear in Skokie, Illinois.
Starting point is 00:53:46 No, but we saw John, my sister saw John Cusack at the Value City once and that was like funny to me. But no, so my mom just like loved movies.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So we went to the movies every Friday as a family to the cheap theater. But then every day my mom would cook dinner and we would watch Entertainment Tonight.
Starting point is 00:54:01 And then on the commercial breaks go to Access Hollywood and then we watched all the award shows and then on the commercial breaks go to Access Hollywood and then we watched all the award shows and then on Tuesdays would go get all the best dress lists
Starting point is 00:54:10 we got all the people's most beautiful like all of that and then subscribe to Us Weekly and then so that was just like meme
Starting point is 00:54:18 and then my dad would like flip out when Leonardo DiCaprio would lose an award so your dad was invested too? he loves Leonardo DiCaprio would lose an award. Oh my God. So your dad was invested too? He loves Leonardo DiCaprio. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So he would yell at us and go to bed if Leo lost. And he would just like flip out. So when was he even nominated? Just for Titanic? Well, for Gilbert Grape. For Gilbert Grape.
Starting point is 00:54:39 He lost to Tommy Lee Jones, which I just don't. So this is pre-Titanic. He was obsessed with Leo. We've always just like loved Leo as a family wow my dad's also trash too
Starting point is 00:54:48 because like when Helen Hunt won for best actress instead of Kate Winslet my dad was like that flat chested bit like he was like mad someone without tits won
Starting point is 00:54:55 like he was livid they gave it to the flat chested one yeah the flat chested TV star that is not the big breasted movie star
Starting point is 00:55:03 who's young oh my god plays Rose I mean Helen Hunt winning Not just a TV star. Not the big-breasted movie star who's young. Oh my God. Plays Rose. I mean, Helen Hunt winning was like a thing. Well, she... People were very...
Starting point is 00:55:12 Had strong feelings. They were irate, but that's only because, you know... We were Titanic obsessed. We were young. Yeah, Titanic obsessed. You watch the performances back
Starting point is 00:55:20 and Helen Hunt is amazing in this. She's amazing. I was pissed when Cate Blanchett lost to Gwyneth Paltrow. That was my big thing that I'll never forget. Oh, for Shakespeare in Love? This is a controversial one
Starting point is 00:55:29 for me. You don't like Cate Blanchett. No, it's not that I don't like Cate Blanchett. It's just that Cate Blanchett like now has two Oscars because I feel like you get this. Here's my thing with the Oscars and I've said it on the show. You should win an Oscar if no one else could have done what you did. And i feel like part
Starting point is 00:55:46 of the gwyneth paltrow shakespeare in love performance is that movie star energy she brought to also being so good in that part like you believed her in the part like i really did like the romance i feel like it won best picture because well cheating aside and harvey wants the aside like i buy it winning because just the romance which swept you away and like gwyneth is unique and i thought iconic in that role whereas i think elizabeth was masterfully performed by kate blanchett but it wasn't necessarily kate blanchett's like signature role that would remember forever other actresses could have done that and other actresses could have also slayed as elizabeth no i like that thing. Could no one else have done it? That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:56:26 That's why I stand by Jennifer Hudson winning for Dreamgirls. Because it's like, yeah, maybe it wasn't the exact performance. Or like, you wanted to win. Maybe you weren't the biggest fan. But literally, could anyone else have done it? Sure, sure. Why isn't Jennifer Hudson a bigger star? She is and she's fine.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I think she's huge. She's huge. And she's going to be in the new Cats movie. She's fine. I don't care about that I've actually never seen it or care I don't know about Cats neither have we
Starting point is 00:56:50 but we do this recurring bit on our show where everyone all of our guests have some emotional connection to it I'm so happy you don't have it
Starting point is 00:56:57 yeah no I don't care at all okay wait but I do HPJ and APA are laughing so we'd go to the movies every Friday meet my parents
Starting point is 00:57:03 but they are so foreign, so they would take me to really inappropriate movies. And one time- That's the thing about having foreign parents. They don't know anything. They don't know. But then we didn't talk about it, so we went to see like erotica or something,
Starting point is 00:57:14 or exotica, like something crazy, and everyone in the movie theater was so mad at them. And I was humiliated. And I just was so upset, and never a discussion about what we had just seen but you never addressed it
Starting point is 00:57:26 yeah one time we it was dead man walking and finally the ladies that work there were like she just can't go to that one so then I started ripping tickets
Starting point is 00:57:34 at the movie theater while my parents went to movies that were inappropriate for me oh so you so then me and this old guy you were working at the theater sometimes
Starting point is 00:57:42 because we went every Friday and it was like the dollar fifty old rung movie theater oh yeah yeah yeah so everyone just kind of knew me and it was like the $1.50 old rung movie theater. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So everyone just kind of knew me and it was all these old people. So then I would just sit and rip tickets
Starting point is 00:57:50 until I was old enough to go to the other theater. Did you get paid? No, not at all. And my parents were obviously against buying snacks. I hated when like the click of the can would happen. Because you wanted it so bad. I just, yeah, once when I went with just my mom, we would get popcorn and
Starting point is 00:58:05 stuff but my dad would not allow us but then you grow up and then you realize everything's a pr scam and it kind of loses everything totally oh even the snacks what are you talking no i mean like the oscars oh yeah yeah it's literally fake snacks snacks of course yeah the snacks are all fucking pr scam no big popcorn's trying to get us no then yeah you realize the oscars are all bought and it's all it's all bullshit it's an industry it's kind of like the vmas it's like this exists to every year there's going to be a moment like you can see like when they announced the wrong name for the best picture at the oscars i was like you gotta be fucking kidding me i was like nothing is normal anymore yeah I was happy when that happened.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It was exciting. I was overjoyed. It was like, this is so funny. Jumping in a room. Same. And Adel Dazeem is the best moment of all time. Oh, that's the best. Those moments are like authentic. Adel Dazeem is nothing funnier. Adel Dazeem is it doesn't lose its humor. You know how much it hurt her heart.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I've never. And then she had to just sing like inspirational the cut to her face and the terror in her face and the humiliation in her face was so rich i've never been happier in my life than when he said adele dazeem my i know that before i died the moment that will flash before my eyes is when it happened it was the most happy I've ever been The way his head bows He was positive He bowed He was positive I saw her once at Ravinia
Starting point is 00:59:32 Idina Menzel And it's this venue where you can't see anyone You're like blankets with cheeses and stuff Fuck yeah And it was Megan Gailey, Mateo Lane And the moment she walked out The moment she walked out Me and Mateo grabbed each other and went, something's wrong. She sounded like shit.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Oh, no. The whole concert. She was barefoot, sounding terrible. Barefoot in the park. Was that it? Yeah. She did a show called that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Oh, well, that was the tour before that, probably. She brought up children to sing for her that were better than her. And Mark Hamlisch was conducting it. and we were just making fun of him and then he died that like oh my god hamish passed away right like fuck that loser and then he was dead and literally barbara streisand did something so barbara a photo of her when she performed at the oscars in memory and she and she's singing The Way We Were and she goes if we had the strength to do it all again tell me would we and she goes
Starting point is 01:00:33 of course we would could we of course we would she just I love that diva she's a classic but yeah she's so cool she just that's pretty I love that diva diva classic diva she's a classic
Starting point is 01:00:46 yeah but yeah she's so cool Adina Barbara Barbara's so cool she's cool Adina Menzel just has failed
Starting point is 01:00:54 at every opportunity given to her time and time again but she's still a part of three oh I'm gonna go see that play with the
Starting point is 01:01:01 the billboards that are out we saw it oh how was it Roundabout Theater sponsored us. We liked it. We liked it.
Starting point is 01:01:07 It was good. I can't wait. She's great in it. She's got good timing. She's like. She's, yeah, she was really good in it. She's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Yeah, she, and there was like some really solid man candy in it too. Yeah. Yeah, she was fucking Taye Diggs. I'm sure she's cool,
Starting point is 01:01:19 but maybe he's just a nerd. Well, they divorced. I know, but like I wonder what, I just wonder everything. You're sure she's like cool enough to like fucking bag Taye they divorced. I know but like I wonder what I just wonder everything about her. You're sure she's like
Starting point is 01:01:25 cool enough to like fucking bag Taye Diggs. Or does it mean Taye Diggs isn't as cool as he looks? Maybe both. I bet she smokes weed. Oh yeah. I think Idina Menzel
Starting point is 01:01:34 is like Everyone smokes weed now. Very down. Yeah I mean that's true but I mean like I guess I bet she gets into it. No she was on
Starting point is 01:01:41 I bet she loves the hang. Whenever she's on Watch What Happens live once and she just seemed like super down to earth and cool. I bet she loves to hang. Whenever she's on Watcher, she was on Watcher Happens Live once. And she just seemed like super down to earth and cool. I think she's good people. I mean, literally,
Starting point is 01:01:49 for that to happen to you and you not die on the spot, you have to have a sense of humor about yourself. You get a fucking purple heart. I don't know why I hate her. She just sounded so bad at this concert.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And then she closed on The Sun Will Come Out. She closed on that. And Mateo and Megan were like, we need to see her. So they ran up to like see her and I didn't want to.
Starting point is 01:02:07 And they said they turned next to them and there was a girl hysterically crying for the sun will come out. The sun will come out. Sin-drying for Idina Menzel. Hysterically crying. Literally, I think that I saw her in If Then and she did sound pretty okay,
Starting point is 01:02:22 but literally the top note was just like, uh, uh. Yeah, you know what? It didn't stray from that. If you had to, for 500, 600 fucking performances, hit that note Defying Gravity every fucking day. You sounded like Cher there for a second. I saw it in London and it's just,
Starting point is 01:02:38 whoever I saw was better than her. Like, I've just seen people be better than her. For Wicked? Yeah. You guys need to give Adina a pass. Give her some goddamn credit. Give her some goddamn credit. We're fucking killing ourselves out there on that stage.
Starting point is 01:02:52 And if you're going to come in here, you're not our critics. We have the press for that. And if you have press credentials, then you can say that. But you're just an audience member. Meanwhile, what the fuck? It's not like I get treated any better than you. My toilet's been broken for two goddamn weeks. Somebody fix my toilet.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I've been fucking on the phone with them and they say they're on their way. And you know what? It's fucking ridiculous. We do share. We do a share impression. It's really good. We're working on it.
Starting point is 01:03:17 You do a lot of them. We worked on this with Matteo. What's this body dysmorphia thing that happened at the Divas Live? Oh, okay. We may not even be able to release the episode. We might not be, guys, Mateo. What's this body dysmorphia thing that happened at the Divas Live? Oh, okay. We may not even be able to release the episode. We might not be, guys, real straight. Because the performers,
Starting point is 01:03:31 some of the performers, we're not going to name names, some of the performers at the I Don't Think So Many Divas show, multiple performers, had reservations about what they said about certain divas. Because here's what happened.
Starting point is 01:03:40 We did, you only were there for the beginning. So, and everyone at home, if we don't get to release the episode because it's up for debate, there was some controversy. Internally. Is it because they weren't being sincere?
Starting point is 01:03:49 No, what happened was, there were three rounds. There were three rounds. The first round was just, I don't think so, honey, on a diva. That they pre-selected, that they vetted, that we vetted and we were like,
Starting point is 01:03:59 yes, you can do that, that's great. So there's no overlap. Right. Second round was, I do think so many for a diva that they love, that they worship. That was a really good round. That was a fun round. That was great. So there's no overlap. Right. Second round was, I do think Sony for a diva that they love, that they worship. That was a really good round. That was a fun round.
Starting point is 01:04:07 That was really fun because it was positive. And then we did, I don't think so, honey, Troll Bowl. And I had put like a bunch of iconic divas who like have their staunch fans in the bowl. And somebody picked Madonna.
Starting point is 01:04:22 And I think he just went stream of consciousness and like kind of went in on the top but like it was pretty amazing but after no he won he won
Starting point is 01:04:29 but then afterwards he was like I don't know if I feel comfortable with that being released and we were like okay alright respect but I literally said to him
Starting point is 01:04:35 I was like it's up for debate because I said to him I was like if you don't want me to put it out it will not be out but the body dysmorphia thing
Starting point is 01:04:40 what were you saying like how did she cause people to have body dysmorphia oh Cher oh no no no who did we say that about Cher
Starting point is 01:04:46 what was so bad that was said about Madonna though oh I don't know Matteo went in on Madonna and it was hilarious no don't say it because you might end up wanting us to say it
Starting point is 01:04:56 the one line the one line I think is perfectly fine he goes your hands are from the devil your hands are from the devil Matte Your hands are from the devil. And Matteo just came up, pulled that out of his ass,
Starting point is 01:05:09 and it's like gold. He was the crowd favorite. He was the crowd favorite. And the crowd loved him. It was so fun. It was me, Bowen, Joel, Kim Booster, Dave Holmes,
Starting point is 01:05:17 Elliot Glazer, and Matteo. And after every round, I would go and I say, who votes for this person? And the crowd would scream, and Matteo won two rounds and you won one.
Starting point is 01:05:24 And I won one. I won for my I do think so votes for this person? And the crowd would scream and Mateo won two rounds and you won one. And I won one. I won for my I do think so honey about Gaga. And I came in second for that for I do think so honey Selena. Yes, Selena. Quintanilla.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Quintanilla. I don't know much about her. I also look at the clock and I feel like it's time to go and I don't want to. Okay, no, it's fine. It's fine. No, it's not time to go at all, bitch.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Okay, cool. Good. Don't put chains on us. All right, good. I have a show to catch, so maybe it might be. What are you fucking talking about? All of you. I don't have anything.
Starting point is 01:05:50 My spot's not till past 11. Okay, where are you going up tonight? I'm going up at the Village Underground in the West Village. Love that. And that'll be fun. And then maybe I'll do a few errands before that, but I doubt it because I just love smoking weed. I'm going to say the shows I'm going to tonight okay go I'm going to see the bongo hour yes
Starting point is 01:06:08 and it is every month it's Peter Smith and Sandy Honig and I and Ben Moss and I love this show I went to go see it last month when the three busy Deborah's hosted because Peter all right Peter was was that was doing Peter Pan but they're back
Starting point is 01:06:23 and I'm so excited. And literally, my favorite show is also on Wednesday nights and it's every week and it's Cabernet Cabaret. Have you done that yet? Have you done that yet? No.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You must. You have to do it. Oh, you would fucking kill. It's all, it's like a small cabaret space, all gays. Catherine Cohen and Henry Kapurski.
Starting point is 01:06:40 They'd love you. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, have Henry reach out. Yeah, I started following Kat on the internet and she's so good. They'd love you. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, have Henry reach out. Yeah, I started following Kat on the internet, and she's so good. She's very good.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Went to her Joe's Pub show last night. The sleigh was existent. The sleigh was existent. Yeah, there's so many fun people with many different talents out and about. It's exciting to see people that are funny and are singing and dancing too. I want to know your
Starting point is 01:07:07 other talents. And dressing good. I'm a good gift giver. Yes. What goes into a good gift for you? It has to be just like super personal. I don't do time constraints so it's like if I don't find the perfect thing for your birthday you might have to wait a bit and it just
Starting point is 01:07:23 is what it is. But it's something that's like you just see it and you know it's like if I don't find the perfect thing for your birthday, you might have to wait a bit. And it just it is what it is. But it's something that's like you just see it and you know it's for the person or cute things. I don't know. Just I'm good at presents. Like people are usually happy and they're using it. I like to do a lot of art. So like, you know, I'll get someone I'll get some artists to a drawing of your dog and a cowboy hat, you know, like. That's great. Mateo probably does that really well yeah he's done a few i you know i don't like to bother him too much yeah he's busy he's a busy boy yeah but that's a good that is a
Starting point is 01:07:54 skill because i fucking hate like buying gifts it's so stressful maybe it's because i have a shopping addiction um yeah i love going out and buying stuff for people, for sure. Is there a general category that you will always, like a general? Like I like the stores that are just made to spend money on gifts. What would you buy us? I might go to my frame guy. Oh. And well, recently he had a cool street sale. I would buy like vintage magazines from him with cool people on the cover.
Starting point is 01:08:29 That's fun. Okay, so you are good. You are good. Yeah, because I just bought an old Vanity Fair with Madonna on the front and back cover. And that made me happy. So I was thinking that would be the thing. Okay, so you have taste though. Not that this is in question, but you're bringing your own taste level to these guests.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Yeah, like my friend Shauna, I was visiting her in LA, and she's like, I want the Bowie Metro cards. Can you get me one? And then I found a glitter, my frame guy did a glitter frame piece with all of them,
Starting point is 01:08:58 with the back part was like, the back splash, I don't know what it's called, but when the sun hits, it reflects into a rainbow, and it's a glitter frame, and it was all the backsplash. I don't know what it's called, but when the sun hits, it reflects into a rainbow and it's a glitter frame and it was all the Metro cards and I was like,
Starting point is 01:09:09 I gotta get that. So I got her the Metro cards and a frame. Wow. A shopping addiction. I'm trying to think with mega, I mean, for new houses,
Starting point is 01:09:17 I usually do crystals and like cool candles that are, you know, house blessing. I love candles. Yeah. If anyone ever gives me a candle,
Starting point is 01:09:24 it's the best day and anthro candles always make people very very happy those are fucking two hundo or something I thought you were gonna say just the giant ones are
Starting point is 01:09:33 but like the normal ones are under 50 bucks but some of like god I was reading do you read strategist a lot I don't know what that means okay it's strategist is like
Starting point is 01:09:41 a New York magazine vertical it's a site where it's just about e-commerce it's just about things-commerce It's just about Things to buy this person Things to buy that person It's amazing
Starting point is 01:09:48 I love reading it But they did a whole list of Celebrities' favorite candles And like some of these people Just have I mean they're famous and rich But like These candles are like
Starting point is 01:09:57 300 bucks for like A fucking thimble And I'm just like Someone gave me An expensive candle I don't know how much But when you light it It smells like a sexy guy Like Do you know what? It's this me an expensive candle I don't know how much but when you light it it smells like a sexy guy
Starting point is 01:10:06 like it's this like beautiful cologne I don't know I love it this is what I want to say I didn't realize this about you but I found this out
Starting point is 01:10:13 because we were coming through we were coming through customs together and then like all the international airports they always have like a big duty free section and there's tons of fragrances
Starting point is 01:10:20 you are a fragrance queen I love fucking fragrances you wanted to spend time looking at the fragrances yes honey i never think to do that bitch i they're not that much cheaper they're not that much cheaper like all this all i want right now is all these tom ford oud things and they're like fucking two ounces not even two like 1.7 and they're Isn't that insane? I'm into oils now. But they smell so fucking good. Oh, oils? You like oils? I do 11-11.
Starting point is 01:10:48 I'm still using my like, it's like just like a basic Calvin Klein situation. You gotta level up. You gotta level up. I do gotta level up. Honestly, then I was like, ooh, I like colognes. Let's go smell.
Starting point is 01:10:59 And there was a couple that I was fabulous about. There was a couple that I was fabulous about. I was a couple that I was fabulous about. I like that. I'm fabulous about that. I like talking about my ex smells like laundry always at all times and that was fun. That's basic though. That's basic. I don't think so. Oh okay never mind. I love good laundry smell.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Yeah I like it. I like when someone's natural a little bit. Yeah. Oh that's the best compliment is when you're hooking up with someone and they tell you that you smell good. Yeah. Fuck. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:11:28 fuck me. Fuck me. Now that you told me I smell good, I want you to be in me. That's how it works. I know. I need to hook up.
Starting point is 01:11:38 But don't worry. Same. It's Summer of Con. It's still in effect. It is Summer of Con. Oh, by the way, please buy our merch. I designed a lot of it
Starting point is 01:11:46 yes Bowen has designed our whole full story it's so exciting is it selling off the shelves it's doing okay it's doing well yeah
Starting point is 01:11:53 HPJ confirms it's doing yeah HPJ says yeah there's HPJ do you still like baseball would you go to baseball games I would actually
Starting point is 01:12:01 really like to go to a baseball game we should go to a Yankees game before the season ends are you Yankees fans? I'm a Mets fan. I'm a White Sox fan but my first summer moving to New York
Starting point is 01:12:09 I did a full birthday at Mets at the Mets stadium and I still get ticket sale calls. Back then was it Shea Stadium or was it Citi Field?
Starting point is 01:12:17 No it was just Citi Field but it was like cheap tickets that included food. Yeah yeah yeah. And I just went to Fenway for the first time,
Starting point is 01:12:26 but we do Father's Day always and Mother's Day at the Paul Bar. I love baseball games. Have you been to Wrigley Field? Yes. I've been to Wrigley a bunch. You're not a Cubs person. You're White Sox.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I'm a White Sox fan, but I don't know anyone's name, so I'll go to Wrigley Field. I don't care. It's just the food for me. That's all I'm going for. Yeah, I just want to eat and drink and watch a nice game. I just want to be drunk.
Starting point is 01:12:49 And their butts are fun. But I've been kicked out of a lot of games. Why have you been kicked out? I used to be wild. What did you do? I got arrested once at a White Sox game and kicked out of two others. For what? Iconic.
Starting point is 01:13:00 Just being drunk and young and getting wild. What does your record look like? I have had three arrests. The title of that, I have had three arrests. That's it. I have had three arrests. And then I had to take a greyhound back to Iowa to serve two days in jail. That's wonderful.
Starting point is 01:13:20 All for being young and drunk. I'm obsessed. Lisa's a fucking queen fucking true queen but i always am like so thankful my parents paid for all like the lawyers and stuff i'm like i wonder if my life would be ruined if i didn't have who knows i mean i'm watching orange is the new black this have you watched this new season no i haven't seen the new one it's a little bit more oz than comedy i mean they're good at making it light at moments but it starts they're just like getting beat in maximum security prison
Starting point is 01:13:50 with no end in sight I don't know what like I have a hard time watching it like remember that it was the first season that they decided to go really bleak with it actually you know what it was after Black Lives Matter like really came to the forefront and they had they're making a show about largely like poc women in the prison system like you have to
Starting point is 01:14:10 show the realities but that season i think i had stopped watching the season before and i didn't finish it because it just didn't dramatically compel me and honestly like it's hard to get back into because it's so hard to watch it's read read new jim crow honey and then get back into it i know you've got to swallow that. Okay. Yeah. I remember that sad scene happened and I'd been watching all day and night. And so the sun was coming up and at like five in the morning that happened.
Starting point is 01:14:34 And I just ball. Oh God. Yeah. No, that was, I can't really, our friend Allen actually is the actor that played the, uh,
Starting point is 01:14:44 the correction officer. Alan Eisenberg. He's cute. He looks like a savage bro, right? Like one of the Fred. He's like truly the nicest guy. No, but like the brothers. He looks like one of the savage brothers.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Oh, one of the savage brothers. Oh my God, bitch. Yes. A little. Like a cute little. Back in the day, I used to say I would hop on Fred Savage. He was the most adorable little kid. I thought he was cuter than Macaulay. Oh, not talking about that. I'm talking about when he hop on Fred Savage he was most adorable okay I thought he was cute not talking about that I'm talking about when he got older
Starting point is 01:15:08 when he had the mole in Austin Powers oh yeah I would hop on he's cute who are your number one fuck crushes right now right now oh that's tough I'm basic um yeah Matt's gonna say a white guy I am though Sean Mendez
Starting point is 01:15:23 oh not really okay that's good um yay oh god i'm that's woke i'm permissible oh god i don't have one right now i don't really have a celeb crush actually you know who i like pretty much always want to fuck but i like rediscovered recently is sean william scott oh yeah who and i don't know if i want we can't say it we can't say it but I like rediscovered recently is Sean William Scott. Oh yeah. Who? And I don't know if I want to say this, but I recently, he came,
Starting point is 01:15:51 he came to mind for good reason, for good reason. And he's, and he, he, he was a sex symbol back in the Brittany era. Remember for me, like number one was Sean William Scott.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Hottest dude. Really? Yeah. Okay. There's something about Stifler being like the emblem of toxic masculinity yeah but like just I don't know the tortured abused boys in us are like
Starting point is 01:16:12 we want a Stifler man we want to fuck a Stifler so bad yeah I watch bad bad porn because I do a lot of material about porn and I've been researching and like the baddest porn that's mean is most women watch it it's the most viewed by women so all like the rough ass porn that's meanest, most women watch it. It's the most viewed by women.
Starting point is 01:16:27 So all the like the rough ass gang bangs and you're like, they don't care about women. It's like women are watching the gang bangs. Whenever I watch straight porn, I am always, it's always like rough. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:38 I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Come on, Bowen. You are obsessed with being woke. You're obsessed with your woke image Now come forth and say that you watch Really bad anal straight porn
Starting point is 01:16:50 Come forward and say you watch it I don't I truly don't What porn do you watch Get into it and be very real Lately I've been like I'm researching and I'm fascinated By like group stuff Like 3 and up I'm just like What are the politics like group stuff and like three like three three and up
Starting point is 01:17:05 I'm just like okay what are the politics at play there's so much going on there's like okay how are these how are these permutations happening
Starting point is 01:17:12 why how is the person being left out feeling it's there's so much going on I've had one foursome so fascinating
Starting point is 01:17:18 really I've never done how was it I've never done anything it was the best thing in my life really I'm chasing that again and it will never
Starting point is 01:17:24 I don't know it's like because then I had I had a threesome and it was bad bad bad yeah. It was the best thing in my life. Really? I'm chasing that again. I don't know. I had a threesome and it was bad, bad, bad. Four was the perfect number. Well, I would have another threesome, but the foursome was like, I do a joke about this, but legit, they were in the front row of a comedy show and the guy was so hot that I walked on stage and I'm like, you're fucking hot. I don't know how I'm going to do my set.
Starting point is 01:17:40 And then after the show, he came up to me and I was like, I'll be at this bar. It was at Caroline's. I was like, come meet me at Lily's. Oh my God. And so we met and then there was like he came up to me and I was like, I'll be at this bar. It was at Caroline's so I was like, come meet me at Lily's. Oh my God. And so we met and then the four,
Starting point is 01:17:48 there was like a girl and two guys and then after we all had a drink they were like, listen, we're not together. We're actually all here
Starting point is 01:17:55 from out of town. We have a hotel room with Coke and Molly and we would love for you to come. And I was like, all right. Holy fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:18:02 That's incredible. Have you ever had group sex? Um, oh God. But the politics were nice because- What Have you ever had group sex? Um, oh God. But the politics were nice. What do you mean, oh God? Oh, that means yes. My, uh, recently, and my fucking sister's gonna listen to this.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Who cares, Yang? Grow up. These people on, these people on Grindr are like, hey, we have this like monthly like meetup of like all Asian dudes. And I was like, great, that sounds cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:25 This was, it was like the most pathetic thing I've ever dudes. And I was like, great. That's hell. Yeah, this was, it was like this, the most pathetic thing I've ever been a part of. Well, that's to be continued. It was, that might be a whole page. No,
Starting point is 01:18:31 this is okay. This is, this is all you need to know. I walk in and everyone's clothed and everyone's just, everyone's clothed and they're in their underwear and they're sitting there. And then there's like one, it was like a fucking, it was like a camp icebreaker where this one guy's like hey so um
Starting point is 01:18:46 Alright so what we're doing is You're new so You gotta say What your name is What your name is How old you are and what you're into Fuck that You gotta look around for the cameras at that point
Starting point is 01:19:01 Yeah a little bit I was like The fuck is this Is this like a social experiment? And so, it was dumb. It was dumb, dumb, dumb. And I, like, for many moments, like, I only stayed there for like 20-ish minutes and I just like put on my clothes on and put my clothes on the left. So nothing happened?
Starting point is 01:19:18 Stuff happened, but then I was just like, little tug, little pull. But I felt like neglected. I was like, no one's like, no one's really doing it. Like, no one's paying like neglected. I was like, no one's like, no one's really doing it. Like no one's paying attention. And I was like, oh, this is so interesting.
Starting point is 01:19:28 And I have to like, look into this. Wow. I have to like, look into case studies. And I was just like, okay, I have to go.
Starting point is 01:19:34 I've only had sex with one other person and I've been in love every time. And it's sacred. And it's sex is sacred. I've had sex with hundreds of people and every single one of them I've been in love with. Sex is sacred.
Starting point is 01:19:43 And I just want to say, sex is sacred. And so is masturbation. Sex is what? You think sex is what? I'm sorry. I was confused. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:48 All right. We have to do I Don't Think So, Honey. We have to because Bowen has a hot date at TBH. Oh, yeah. I forgot. Well, it's show and then a date. Show and then a date, hon. Wow.
Starting point is 01:19:57 Okay. So what show are you seeing tonight? I'm doing this caveat show called Unteachables. Okay. Oh, yes. I like Unteachables. Another plug. Okay. I can go first. Great. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. Okay. Oh yes. I like unteachable. Another plug. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I can go first. Great. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. Honey, his time starts now. I don't think so. Honey flakes.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Oh, here's the fucking deal. Here's the cute human being thing to do. Guys. If you make explicit plans with someone show up because I'm going to show up. And guess what? I am a human being who could have done something else with my night also i don't think so honey flakes when you flake a second time on
Starting point is 01:20:32 top of a flake then imagine the audacity of flaking out three maybe four times 30 seconds this is like one of the worst things you can be is a someone who is not reliable. How embarrassing for you and how I don't think so. Honey, worthy to be known for the fact that you cannot be relied on. 15 seconds. I pray for you. I pray. Flakes, there's a reason that you're named after something that fucking sucks, which is Frosted Flakes. Another cereal I don't like.
Starting point is 01:21:07 And Flakes on dandruff, bitch. You are that. And that's one minute. That was a very slow burn. You know I never am slow and controlled. That was a controlled. I'm always fast and loopy-doppy. Loopy-doppy, fast and loopy-doppy.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Wow. Flakes suck. Feeling a Cuckoo Lulu, as Catherine Cohen has you been flaked by this guy for multiple times oh honey oh I just is it someone I know
Starting point is 01:21:30 yeah romantically yeah okay you know this isn't just flakes but you know what I hate on top of that
Starting point is 01:21:37 and but I don't want to I don't think so honey is like let's stop texting and come hang out with me yeah yeah yeah yeah we're new like why
Starting point is 01:21:47 why do we keep fucking texting for weeks let's come over there's something wrong with us at large come over we don't say what we want we do not say what we want we don't we don't we don't i've been on dates recently and i'm just being gonna be like i just kind of want to ask this guy to come over but like i have to get so drunk to get there and i have to like i have to like have a full fucking douche like my hole needs to be squeaky clean why don't you just invite someone over and then not have sex with them rub dicks i've done that i've done that but i just every now and then i'm like i want to have sex i want to i want to well it's wonderful okay anyway that is okay i gotta we gotta go okay this is boniang's i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so many people who knock on the bathroom door of a
Starting point is 01:22:24 public restroom, bitch. I'm inside my fucking, speaking of my whole being squeaky clean, it is a fucking, you gotta dredge that shit out now, because I'm having the most erratic shit. One day, it's solid little dibs. The other day, and then today, it was green and all liquid, and I can't, Lisa's disgusted. Same, to be like no sorry and and it's just I have to
Starting point is 01:22:48 it's an emotional roller coaster every time I walk into any toilet much less a public one where I am I my most vulnerable and for you to break that to just encroach on that peaceful time in my life
Starting point is 01:23:06 that I'm trying to like make sacred for myself. 15 seconds. Taking a shit is sacred. I'm sorry, what? I'm sorry. I just, I think I got confused. Okay. But if you knock on the door,
Starting point is 01:23:16 something is wrong with you. The door is locked. Take a fucking hint. Don't knock on the door. Don't rush me. Okay. Unless you're spending a lot of time in the toilet, in which case I have to.
Starting point is 01:23:24 No, my thing is. When they don't knock. when they don't knock when they do knock when they do knock sorry i just don't trust that they're not just sitting on their phones and if you're sitting on your phone i need a peep fine fine but i'm just i'm shitting there and i know that there's people waiting if it's a starbucks then definitely i i will try to get out of there asap but how dumb would you feel as someone online who just saw a closed public restroom door and just stood there waiting and then like someone was like is there someone in there and you open the door and there's no one there rarely happens hun that's why because we not you
Starting point is 01:23:51 know you don't have to knock first first you just turn the fucking door knob and if that's locked then you don't have to and then that's the end of the road and then the person inside hears that you've you've sort of jiggled the knob and that's that's all they need to know I think this is all rooted in the fact that you're having bad shit I think I'm having such bad shits. I think your brain is crazy right now
Starting point is 01:24:07 because your shit is wild. Yeah, that's probably it. My brain is crazy because my shit is wild. You know my situation is very similar. Okay, Lisa, are you ready? Yeah. Okay, great.
Starting point is 01:24:14 This is Lisa Tragers. I don't think so, honey. And her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Comics that fight for, that think PC culture is ruining everything. Yes.
Starting point is 01:24:23 But then we can't make fun of them. Oh. I'm sick of all these people that are like, let us say faggot, but then hate Hannah Gadsby special. And it's like, why can't she say what she wants?
Starting point is 01:24:33 You're fighting for your right to say awful shit about anyone. And then whenever anyone says anything about white men, you have meltdowns. She was treated awful at the show I hosted. Someone went up after her
Starting point is 01:24:44 and was like, I hated that. I'm not, oh, I'm just a white guy and we're unique. She got heckled at her gala. Fuck. Multiple times. These dudes are, they stalked the guy at Netflix being like,
Starting point is 01:24:55 why would you give her a special? They're wilding out. And then they're fighting for like Chappelle to be able to say tranny, but not for a woman to just talk about her experience. And then they say it's not comedy and it's annoying and it's like you're just not funny enough
Starting point is 01:25:07 you're not edgy you're not playing devil's advocate you're the status quo you're saying the things that people have been saying for 50 years and it's annoying
Starting point is 01:25:15 it's not PC culture you're not good enough and you're boring and that's one minute and you are fucking dead on sorry I said all the bad words in the
Starting point is 01:25:22 no no no who fucking cares that's not the point you this is the thing. This is why everyone at JFL was fucking... All these fucking dipshits were freaking out over Hannah Gadsby. It was because it's a woman that they look
Starting point is 01:25:34 at and they're like, I can't fuck that. Oh, but why is she successful? Yeah, they don't have a problem with Eliza. They also don't have a problem with all these dudes not being funny. Yeah. Literally. God. Why can't you just move on? with eliza talking about don't have a problem with all these dudes not being funny yeah literally god why can't you just move on also the point you you said this you're not you're proving it oh yeah you're saying hannah nothing hannah gadsby's ever said is funny that's not funny
Starting point is 01:25:56 hilarious joke why are you spending your time then on this like statement if your problem is the fact that in your eyes she's spending time talking about her reality what you are doing right now is what you're taking space to talk about your quote-unquote oppression which is a fake and b not a joke so what where is your point shut the fuck up it's not funny you are like anyone who thinks they are the gatekeeper of comedy go fuck yourself oh fucking-O fucking L. And everyone yesterday retweeting Leslie Jones like, yeah, we should be able to say whatever we want. It's like, why doesn't she have those rights either?
Starting point is 01:26:33 Exactly. Why are you spending your time shutting her down? But you just want to scream at people and say awful things. And then you get mad when people talk about white men and you don't want to be grouped in. But you want to do jokes about, I don't know. I mean, I'm not gay, but if I was,
Starting point is 01:26:47 you want to do that. And you still see it so much. Although, but these men are just proving Hannah's point in the end where her whole point is like white men, like just like commandeer every fucking thing. And then for them to like react this way is even like, whatever,
Starting point is 01:27:01 even like the, these other people in the world, do you guys know who I'm talking about? this guy who's defending southern mama on social media oh i haven't seen that is it a comic we know yes it's it's crazy to me you've got to check this gatekeeper thing no one owns art this is an art form and you want to stand up there and you you stand up there and you get a reaction the way that you can. And you're just jealous, dude. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:28 You're just jealous. And a sexist. Like if it's successful, that means people reacted to it. So it's like, move on. Move on. Wow. We're ending on a fiery fucking note. I love it.
Starting point is 01:27:42 Well, come on. This is not the time. No, I was rageful. I was rageful after I left. Oh love it. Well, come on. This is not the time. No, I was rageful. I was rageful after I left. Oh, yeah, after the show? After I left JF, I was just like annoyed with, because someone was like,
Starting point is 01:27:51 I think it's just traditionalists. And I'm like, no, these are fucking hateful bigots. Yes. And you can't give them space. Traditionalists. Traditionalists, my ass. The thing you can't do
Starting point is 01:28:00 is hear these people. You cannot hear these people out or give them space. You can't be like, well, we need to listen to all perspectives. No. If you tolerate intolerance, intoler these people. You cannot hear these people out or give them space. You can't be like, well, we need to listen to all perspectives. No. If you tolerate intolerance, intolerance wins.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Literally, the last thing I want to say is when you looked like that variety show, the comics to watch, it's so crazy to me because he did this thing that was like, he obviously was the one of the people, whatever. Also, Taylor Tomlinson was on that show doing, doing, but also doing classic standup comedy. You know what I mean? If you want to just go up there and tell jokes, that's how you do it.
Starting point is 01:28:30 You just didn't have any jokes. You just didn't fuck. You're not, you're not at that level. Like, you know, not everyone is fucking alternative or whatever. There's a lot of really amazing standup comics right now.
Starting point is 01:28:40 That was, that was a show where all of that coexisted beautifully. And exactly until that last moment. And it was so, such garbage. It's fucked. Fucking sucked. Fucking sucked exactly until that last moment. And it was such garbage. It's fucked. Fucking sucked. Fucking sucked.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Glad he went last. Pretty cinematic, though. Truly. Glad no one had to follow him. We said this to Dulce. We were like, it was a thrill to just watch him, watch anyone bomb like that hard at all. I've never seen something like that happen.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Anyway. Oh, my God. Well, we had a true legend with us tonight this is and also literally i looked at her at the pool and i'm like why the fuck hasn't lost yeah well that's that's well you know well because so the first time i was booked to i don't think so honey i had to cancel and i thought you guys were mad at me the whole time and that's why i wasn't at the podcast so i never messaged about dozens of people have to do it like people do like 10 12 people do it every single show
Starting point is 01:29:25 it's been killing me no no no no this is one of the funniest people in the world I truly think that if you don't go see her at Lincoln Lodge in late August
Starting point is 01:29:32 August 24th and 25th in Chicago I really think you're really fucking stupid you're fucking stupid I don't respect you if you don't go see her show and I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:29:39 that's my truth and that is I'm the gatekeeper and we are the gatekeepers of this yes okay well we love you lisa let's end on a quick little ditty go ahead who do you think you are barging in on me
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