Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Impending Mother" (w/ Kara Klenk)

Episode Date: May 15, 2019

At 9 months and 1 week pregnant, Kara Klenk joins Matt and Bowen in the studio to talk impending motherhood, Bette Midler, Drag Race, and the thrill of a late-in-life romance film.---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow. Is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling.

Here's the thing. I have some tea to spill about Bowen Yang. Oh. So this took me back. Took me a back. Oh, we were just at Starbucks. We were just at Starbucks. And Bowen Yang, whose name is famously and iconically Bowen Yang.

The gentleman at Starbucks asked what his name was. And he said, Ryan. I said Brian. Well, I heard Ryan. And if it was Brian or Ryan, I have an issue with this. Okay, but. You need to probably be you. It's not about pride, I assure you.

It's purely about it. It's not about pride, I assure you. It's purely about it. It's purely efficiency. I'm just like, the amount of time, this cumulative amount of time that I've wasted just being like, oh, it's Bowen. It's B-O-W, no, B-O-W-E. No, oh, B-O-W-E. Just like the false starts, the lurching through.

It's truly take. I think I've spent a full calendar year total telling these people how to spell my name, and it's just not working. What happens when the Starbucks employee is a huge fan of you from your many exploits in the entertainment industry, and they see you as a wolf in sheep's clothing? Then they'll respect my wishes

and write about Brian on the damn cup. I want you, because isn't there a Brian Yang? Yes. What does he do? I think he's also a comedian. Oh, okay. Shout out to her.

Shout out to her. Hey, queen. Hey, queen. But we're not to misgender. He's a boy. Well. I find that I want you to scream from the rooftops that you're Bowen Yang

in each and every Starbucks I love my name so much but at Starbucks it's not about pride It's Owen with a B That's all you have to say I think you enjoy the performance Listen, you walk into a Starbucks Pride is not an issue

You just want your drink as soon as possible No one's proud in a Starbucks That's actually rule of culture number 17. No one's proud in a Starbucks. That's actually rule of culture. Number 176. No one's proud in a Starbucks. Unless you're managing a thriving location. And then you have, and then I would walk around with my hands on my hips and saying, this land is my land. I would just be very like, I'm so happy of the community I've created here.

Yes. I find that oftentimes the community seems very good amongst the Starbucks workers. Absolutely. I feel like Starbucks. I mean, we love Howard. Oh, fuck. Just kidding. Wait, does Howard Schultz really own the Starbucks? Yes.

Is that his claim to fame? Yes. That's the whole reason we care. Why am I such a Starbucks bitch? We all are. I truly am, and so are you. I made no gestures at not being one. Are you a Starbucks bitch?

No, I don't drink coffee. Wow. Now, you might be asking, who the heck was that? Whose sultry tones were, whose Connecticut, beautiful Connecticut accent was that? Whose beautiful, sultry Connecticut sound was that?

Well, that actually would have to be our guest. Now, here's the thing about our guest. Here's the thing about our guest. Our guest is currently nine months and one week pregnant. And then she goes, well, we'll get into this. She goes, guys, she tells us two boys who will never reproduce. And we'll never know.

She goes, pregnancy is actually 10 months. And that shook me. What they don't tell you. That shook me. And that shook me. Yeah. She is so fantastic. She and I go way, way back.

Do you go way back? Well we were deep in the trenches for this pilot presentation That didn't go I love a pilot presentation I find a pilot presentation so thrilling I love presenting something Yeah we love presenting a pilot What was it?

It was America's Least Wanted Oh I remember when you did this Yeah yeah yeah And was a fun old time. And it didn't go. Okay, that's fine. But you know what did go? Her album.

This baby growing inside her. Oh. And the album. Also a baby growing inside her. And she has given birth already to Undefeated, the album. To Undefeated, the album. Literally undefeated. Literally.

Number one on the charts. Whatever. And now it's fluctuating a little bit. Literally undefeated. Literally. Number one on the charts. Whatever. And now it's fluctuating a little bit. And who cares? That happens. But she shot all the way to number one, y'all. She shot all the way to number one. It's actually rule of culture number 91.

Fluctuation happens. It's such a good album. Undefeated. You can hear Guy Branum's laughing. Was he there? Oh my God. It's not Guy Branum, but it is a comedian who has an identical laugh to Guy Branum.

I could have sworn it was Guy. That's a wolf in sheep's clothing. That's a wolf in sheep's clothing. If you go to a comedy club in New York or LA with a Guy Branum laugh, You think it's Guy. And it's not Guy,

that's a threat. That's a threat to me. That's a threat to Matt. Okay, but we're so happy that she's here. Do you guys know Ira Madison? I think he and Guy have a similar laugh. He and Guy have a similar laugh. Okay, interesting.

Shots fired. Similar papal laugh. But they, wow, our guest is so fantastic. An amazing writer, stand-up performer, actress. I don't think so many. But I don't think so many live. We're so happy to have her here. Please welcome into your ears, Cara Clank. Oh my God, what a dream. I'm so happy to have her here. Please welcome into your ears Cara Clank! Oh my god.

What a dream. I'm so happy to be here you guys. We are so happy to have you. I have touched both of you vaguely through pilot presentations. I wrote on a pilot presentation. Well, it was a full pilot. It was a full pilot. Bowen was cast in and we only met during the filming and we were like

what's happening here? But I thought that you were so fun and funny in it. And then I last summer wrote on a Bravo reboot of Blind Date, the famously misogynistic and like horrible game show that they're trying to bring back and repurpose that Matt was very far along in the casting process for. But don't worry, I also don't think it's going anywhere.

I will have to say, I really felt good about that. I thought it was going well, and then you texted me, and I was like, oh, Kara's in the room. Maybe this will help, and then they don't worry. I was like, your tape is so great. Yeah, because you know who they went with? Carson Kressley. Shut up. They went with somebody who was like an established

Bravo person. I guess that makes sense. Which you're like, but then why did you bring in every young star in the comedy scene? Like you wanted to discover new talent and then you were like, let's go back to the well. I'm also always like fully blown away when these places can afford to fly people out. I know. And multiple times. Like it's crazy.

Like money is not a thing, I guess, to the wealthy. Yeah. Exactly. To the wealthy, powerful, connected industry folks. Absolutely. But, I mean, oh, so then you have touched us both. Yeah. I've touched both of you, I feel.

You have touched me. In various pilot ways. But, like, hopefully one day we'll all just be working on something that goes. There you go. Honestly, yes. We'll put that onto the atmosphere. Yeah. Okay, so explain this 10-month pregnancy thing. Okay, go. Honestly, yes. We'll put that onto the atmosphere. Yeah. Okay, so explain

this 10-month pregnancy. Okay, so pregnancy is 40 weeks. So 40 weeks divided by four is 10 months. Like, you don't usually go

like maybe to, I'm not going to go to full 10 months, but it's closer to 10 months. So they round down to nine. I don't really,

yeah, I don't really get why they do. But I think it's because, i think it's because you are technically pregnant like two weeks before you even have the sex that gets you pregnant because they go from they go from your period and stuff like that this is disgusting no i love i love discuss we love discuss this is a disgusting podcast it's from when the ovum develops. Yeah, it's like basically they can only judge it from your period because that's more accurate because you could be having sex like multiple days. And so they judge it from your last day of menstruation. And so then, yeah, so it's all goofy.

But I basically did a show last night where I was like, I am nine months and one week pregnant. And the audience gasped. Yeah, because they got nervous. They truly thought I was going to. And I do a whole bit where I get down low on the ground, and I think they were so nervous. Honestly. They thought I was going to topple over. When you said nine months and one week pregnant, I thought in my head, oh my God, her water will break on this episode of Las Culturistas.

And if that does happen, I will say this. My number one priority would be getting you to the hospital. My second priority is this episode has to come out immediately. I would put you in the lift. Long stream.

Turn to Hoppa. Turn to Hot Associate Producer Alec. And I would say, we gotta rush this. We gotta rush this one. We gotta rush this one. We gotta. We have the scoop

on Cara Clink's water breaking. I want this episode out before the baby is named. Another myth. Water doesn't break like a ton of the time. Oh. Yeah, like a lot of times

the doctor breaks your water for you when you're at the hospital. Like a lot of, and it's also not the gush you see in like romantic, like short movies. Right, right, right.

Like it's, sometimes it's just like, am I peeing my pants a little bit? That's what I've been told. Got it. Right, right, right. It's sometimes only a little bit.

Yeah. Wow. So it's wild. I guess I'll just see what happens for me. Wow. I mean, it is like a, and I didn't know I was pregnant kind of thing where it's sometimes only a little bit yeah it's just so it's wild i guess i'll just see what happens for me wow i mean it is like a and i didn't know i was pregnant kind of thing where it's like sometimes it's like none of the signs are there yeah and a baby comes out of you yeah that's insane that i didn't know it was i was pregnant thing is psycho to me is does that mean that something else is going on yeah almost always in my opinion something else is psychologically

going on i mean i've talked to my mother-in-law about this who used to be like an ER nurse in West Virginia and she was like it's denial like a lot of the time they're like

something's wrong but like because I am growing a baby inside of me and I cannot ignore it like it is pounding at the door

constantly like yeah it's a very substantial body change and also I mean I think also if you're massively overweight, I think that that can mask the first few months.

But even still, when you get to the end, it's like there's clearly something in there. Yeah, there's something going on. That's not like a fart. You know what I mean? It's not gas. That's not a bubble hitting the walls of your skin. Like, remember the storyline on Mad Men,

the first season when Peggy gives birth and we didn't know she was pregnant? To me, that was a denial. She knew. She was like, my career and I can't. This is going to be too shameful on my family or whatever. Right, right, right. So you've had a... We were talking

before you came in. You've had a good, comfortable pregnancy. Yeah, I feel really lucky. I felt really good the whole time. I've been performing the whole time. Yeah, she's still doing shows. I can't believe this. You had an album come out! Yeah. But I've been fine. And I honestly like, I'm like such a true extrovert.

Like, I love being around other people so much that I'm so scared for the next month when I'm just sitting in a house with like my husband and a baby. I know, right? I just feel like I'm gonna be so bored that I'm literally just like soaking up shows, parties, like whatever I can do to like be around other people.

Yeah, I know, I know. But everyone's like, no, everyone's going to come over and like, you're not going to be alone. And I'm like, yeah, yeah. But you know what I mean. You're not. Because if you have that resolve to not be alone or if you're trying to get that out of your system now

to like go to all these things and see people because something will change dramatically when the baby arrives, which it might and it maybe will, but like that part of your life will not end with the baby. Right, right, right, right. And like, wait, is there a plan with you and your husband to like, like he's going to be at home, obviously.

He's not going to keep doing his shows, is he? Well, he is probably going to keep booking shows at night. Oh my God. What? Well, here's the thing. We run shows at night. Oh, my God. What? Well, here's the thing. We run a show together. Yes. We run a show together in West Hollywood.

If you're ever any listeners, our Bar Lubitsch in beautiful West Hollywood every Thursday. It's called Better Half Comedy because we are married. Right, right, right. And I think he's going to keep hosting that. I think he's going to slow down on like probably regular spots. Sure, sure. But like, yeah. So that he can.

He is actually going on a road gig two days before I'm due. Which is like. What? Which everybody is like, what? Wait a minute. Is it high paying and high power? It's in Wilmington, North Carolina. Oh my word.

Listen, listen. My doctor said I really don't think that you're going to go early. So she kind of gave him the okay to go. Oh. So you at nine months and one week pregnant, your due date is April 5th, you said? My due date is April 5th, but I might go a few days earlier than that. Okay. Okay, well, I—

Oh, my word. You like your doctor or not? I mean, your doctor signed off on this. It's so funny because he keeps being like, I'll be on a plane back home. And I go, from Wilmington? Yeah, like what? Connecting through Atlanta? Like there's not like a red eye that takes you in the middle of the night to LA from Wilmington. It's not just this thing of like I'm heading to the airport.

It's like you have to get a flight and make sure it's leaving. Six hour flights. Oh my God, I would be panicked. I'm sure you guys have thought about it and made the decision for you. But I am panicked. As a part of it, as a part of it now, I'm like, come on. You'll be in LA. I'll just call you. Honestly, I will come. Matt, the water

has broken. I'll be like, oh my God, I'm already at the hospital laying down a sheet. I don't know why. I'm just doing it. I have towels. I feel like my instinct is to just lay a comfortable surface. Make every surface as comfortable as possible. I'm always scared when, because you know, sometimes I've watched baby birth videos. Oh, please.

I just watched one. Okay. Did you just watch one? Are you horrified? Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I don't like bringing this up to pregnant women, but the birthing process, like it fascinates me.

But like, I always think the baby comes out fascinates me. But I always think, the baby comes out so fast. That's what they don't tell you. Once it's coming out, it shoots out. It shoots out. It's ejected. And so, that's why I feel we need to make sure there's a mat on the ground,

like one of those, like a ball pit. A ball pit, oh. Like a fun zone. What I'm saying is give birth in a ball pit. A ball pit. Oh, yeah. Just like a fun zone. What I'm saying is give birth in a Chuck E. Cheese. Give birth in a fun zone or Chuck E. Cheese

some sort of playtime adjacent. Yeah. Get that kid like all the antibodies like they're going to be exposed to so much bacteria in that fun zone. Give them those antibodies immediately. When they're like push, push, push.

Not too hard because you could cannon that thing out. Oh, God. Bazooka. Bazooka. I mean, when you watch a video, cannon that thing out. Oh, God. Bazooka. Bazooka. When you watch a video, they slide right out really fast. They really do. It's kind of disturbing.

God. Okay, and I still have such a lack of understanding about how these things get logistically planned, where it's just like, okay, well, your doctor's going to be there with you. Uh-huh. Like at the drop of a hat, these doctors will like like i assume your doctor's gonna i don't really get the life of like an ob-gyn i'm like can you ever make a dinner reservation like right i don't really like i mean obviously you go to the hospital and they check you and they check you and the doctor doesn't come in until you're really ready like when you hear about the women laboring

for 12 hours the doctor's not there the whole time. They come in like at the end. So, but I should like ask her, that's a really, I'm always like, what's your life? Like she, you know, she, wow. I mean, cause cause my mom is a doctor, but like a pediatrician, like she just like is at home and is like taking amoxicillin. You know, it's not like, it's not like she ever had to like leave a family trip to like go to the hospital. Totally. Totally. Wow.

That's always in movies. The thing though, it's like my doctors in Saigon, you totally, totally. Wow. That's always in movies, the thing, though. It's like, my doctor's in Saigon. You know, it's like, for some reason, the doctor is so, not even not in town. They're out of the country. But that's happened several times. I think that happened in Knocked Up.

In Knocked Up, the doctor was on vacation. And that's why she gets Ken Jeong, who's like a dick to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's like, I hate this guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was like Ken Jeong's first big moment. That gets Ken Jeong who's like a dick to her and she's like I hate this guy that was like Ken Jeong's first big moment that was Ken Jeong's

first big thing yeah yeah yeah Alison Jones baby Alison Jones casting but you're probably not are you consuming a lot of media about

you know what I just watched Tully oh I haven't watched that show don't watch it do not watch it I didn't watch it I don't think it'll

excite you okay it seems like I think the reason I didn't watch it I don't think it'll excite you okay it seems like yeah like I think the reason I didn't watch it because the entire time it's been out I've either been trying to get pregnant or pregnant and I was like it seems like a woman who's deeply unhappy being a new mother that movie is like about a lot of other things but like it

would as an impending mother I wouldn't like maybe wait maybe wait till the baby's like you know seven yeah impending mother, I wouldn't like. Maybe wait. Maybe wait. Maybe wait. Maybe wait until the baby's like, you know, seven. Yeah. Impending mother.

Impending mother. Potential title of app. Yes. Impending mother. So here's a question because you look great. Are you like working out? Like how does that work? I was trying to work out a little bit the first like until we hit like six or seven months

and then i just was like i'm so big like i'm trying to do walks and stuff but like i was going to spin and obviously not doing yeah the max like and then i just we moved also so like our whole gym situation changed so yeah um i'm also tall so i think I carry it a different way than like when you see some shorter girls that just look like and I haven't swelled up a lot which is nice it's distributed to one place

like it's all here I mean I'm sure it's gonna be like a nightmare trying to get rid of all of it when it's gone to get back to my you know society approved post baby. There you go. There you go. But that's why I think this whole thing of like,

when people say like, Oh, you're carrying it this way. Like it must be a boy or a girl. That doesn't make any sense to me because tall women carry a look differently. Like also everyone's body is literally different. It's a rule of culture. Number 96.

Everyone's body is literally different. Um, so, uh, anyone that comes up and is like, oh, it's a girl because this. It's like, yeah. My husband was like, because a lot of my friends started writing me texts being like, I had a dream you're having a boy or I had this dream.

He goes, well, all of a sudden your friends are all witches. Like everyone's in a coven now and they all know what you're. They know the secret. It's like, I'm just waiting to see what happens. But I was telling him before when you were out for a second, Bowen, like every single person that looks at me tells me I'm having a boy. But you don't know the gender yet.

We don't know. But she feels as if it's a girl. But that could also just be like a little bit of a wishful thinking thing. Like, no offense to my future son listening to this podcast. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. You want it to be. But I don't know. The energy feels female.

But also, but who cares? Yeah, I don't care. I don't care. And that's why I'm not finding out. And that's why you're not finding out. Yeah. Who even cares? Who even cares?

Who even cares? But yeah, so that, I mean, like, what is like, how would you rationalize the reason why you guys don't want to find out? And I'm always curious. It's like, my parents didn't. And so I was like, to my husband, I was like, I don't know. My didn't yeah and so i was like to my husband i was like i don't know my parents never found out he was like let's not find out we just thought it would be like fun kind of also like a fun surprise yes also like if you trace back humanity

like they've never known we're not supposed to know yeah well i guess then people would say like because we have the ability to do the technology and we found that ourselves, we are supposed to know technically. But like I feel like that moment of it's a blank is so fun. Yeah. Not that that is the baby's actual gender. Exactly. We should say. Exactly.

But that moment is a fun one. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Okay. I love that. I love that. I love that a lot. Well, listen, if we meet the baby today, imagine if, imagine the water does break

and like we have to become, he is luckily like, you know, at least was pre-med. No, I know. I cannot, I am not equipped to do anything. You are, you are. I believe in you. And I will be so like fun to have there. And I'll have to name it like Bowen Matthew Logan.

Bowen Matthew Logan. Bowen Matthew Logan. Oh, three first names. Three first. Okay. So listen, we've talked baby. Oh, three first names. Okay. So listen, we've talked, baby. Yeah, let's talk, baby. That's you.

I pointed to you twice. Thank you. So what we ask all of our guests when they come on Las Culturistas is, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? So basically this is defining pop culture of your life that sent you in a direction. Stuff you can remember from when you were like, or something, anything you've been really obsessed with that's like a lot of my personality is based on this pop culture.

Okay, okay, okay. And it can be multiple answers too. Okay, well if I think back to like elementary school and what I was truly obsessed with, it was Bette Midler. Bette Midler. I was like, I was truly so, I had at one point just seen everything she'd ever done. Wow. And like I had birthday parties every year where we would do hair.

My mom would just like buy a bunch of mousse and we would just do hair and watch beaches. Oh my gosh. And that was my birthday party like four years in a row. Oh my God. I love that I just thought she was like so brassy and like fun and I was like I just loved her and so

yeah I was that I have to say she's a key piece so has this still the test of time did you see um hello dolly you guys I tried. I literally tried.

I was in New York. Yes. And I got to New York once right when she was ending and passing the torch to Bernadette. And I still should have gone to see Bernadette. Yeah. But it was like. I get it. Yeah. I was dying to see her in it.

I wouldn't see it either. And I just, I've been out. I live in LA. Totally. Totally. You have this great joke on your album that has to do with that. So, Kara, can I just paraphrase it? Yes, thank you for listening to my album.

Kara has this joke about, she's like, I love LA, but I had the most LA moment at this cafe where I ordered a grilled cheese. And the guy was like, oh yeah, great. Just so you know, it's going to be vegan cheese. Is that okay? And then Kara goes, oh, absolutely the fuck not. Because there's no part of a grilled cheese that does any work besides

the cheese, and then she's like, being told that it's gonna be vegan cheese in a grilled cheese sandwich is like, waiting in line for hours for Hello Dolly to see Bette Midler, and then when you get there, they say, actually, it's gonna be Snooki today. That's such a good joke.

I'm glad you guys like that. I ended a set on that last night and they were like, okay. That's not a Broadway crowd. Actually, it's going to be Snooki tonight. I mean,

I just, I'm a vegetarian, but I draw the line at vegan cheese. It's just, it's not cheese. How long have you been vegetarian? 11 years. Good for you.

That's cool. A vegetarian Bette Midler admirer. Let's wait, let's keep talking about Bette. Well, okay, so is there a piece of Bette Midler admirer. Let's keep talking about that. Is there a piece of Bette Midler media that we all must see? The Rose is like Starboy. Beaches. The Rose and Beaches and all that stuff. I love

all these deep cut movies. She was in this movie called I think it's called Stella where she's like a bad mom. She's like a partying mom. And then I love the one outrageous fortune. I love, um,

big business. Like I just, I like just, I like her and Lily Tomlin as the twins. I was like, I'm obsessed with this. Like, I think that it just was like the stuff that made me be like,

women are funny. Like this is what I'm into. And then I saw that Midler at the mall when I was alive, or I talked about it in this very room on the mall talk podcast because I grew up in Connecticut and they filmed the movie scenes from a mall with Woody Allen

and Bette Midler it's a very lesser known Woody Allen Bette Midler vehicle I don't think it was very good but they filmed it at our mall and I was walking through the mall with my mom and I was like I want to be in this movie mom can I be an be an extra? And she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'll check on it. And, and, and I go, I just want to meet Bette Midler. And she goes, well, there she is right there. And Bette Midler walked right by us. My mom was so casual about it.

My mom was so cash. Like she could not, she could care less about like celebrity people. Like, and she was like, and I was like, oh my God. And we followed her to a furniture, to a homeware store. And I was like 11. My mom goes, go say something to her. And she was like and i was like oh my god and we followed her to a furniture um homeware store and i was like 11 my mom goes go say something to her and i was like i couldn't she was with her daughter it felt intrusive oh my god even at 11 i was like i can't be that person yeah and it's one of my biggest regrets that you didn't say hi yeah but what would but it's like you said it's like you were 11 years old how would you have my mom was like go tell her that you really like her movies and i was was like, I could never.

Like it was. And then every time my dad would like into my teen years, I would like sometimes be staring out the window of the car. My dad would go, what are you thinking about? And I'd go, that I never said hi to Ben Lerner. I truly think about it all the time. Like that it's such a regret. No, at 11 years old, like once I had the opportunity to meet Kelly Clarkson one time.

She was right over there and I was fully 28 years old and I started crying. So, no. At 11 years old, forget it. You're not equipped. To meet the people that,

like I was a page at NBC for a year and I was the Conan page. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so I would like escort all the celebrities up and like after day three, you're like,

okay, everyone, who cares? I mean, you like, I was at SNL too, like I would see the famous people and be like after day three, you're like, okay, everyone, who cares? I mean, you like, I was at SNL too. Like I would see the famous people and be like, I don't care. But then when Tina Fey came on, I was like,

do you need a cookie? Like I was so like, which is when you meet people that you really, really like respect. You're like, but with bet, I mean, it's that thing.

She's an icon. She's an icon. Like a showbiz icon. Yeah. But no, but now you work in showbiz. I feel like it's in the stars that you will probably run into her again. I hope so.

I just was standing so close to Lily Tomlin the other day at something and was like, I could say hi to her too, but she was like in a convo. Sure. You don't want to interrupt a convo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's your real culture number 60.

You don't want to interrupt a convo. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's your real culture number 60. You don't want to interrupt a convo. Especially not with Lily Tomlin because I also feel like she could turn on a hat and be like what the fuck? I'm talking to someone.

Yeah. I wasn't positive. I couldn't feel her out. Wow. Did you see the you've seen the famous video of her and David O. Russell fighting on

the set of I Heart Huckabees. Oh Lily Tomlin. No. Okay Lily Tomlin and David O. Russell Oh my god I'm googling this as soon as I get out of here. Years ago, on the set of I Heard Huckabees,

apparently it was a very intense set. Because of him. Well, yes. He's one of those directors who's really tough on set. Amy Adams has said this as well, expressed as much that he was borderline to her on the set of American Hustle. And he also famously got into a fist fight with George Clooney on the set of American Hustle. But, and he also famously got into a fist fight

with George Clooney on the set of Three Kings. What? Years ago, yeah. He's like. He's like a known asshole. He's like a known, one of those directors. Okay. So there's video of Lily Tomlin just like losing her shit

because she wasn't like being respected or talked to and then he fully calls her the C word. And it's bad. It's horrible. It's like this is a toxic environment and then there's a scene where they're all in a car together shooting a car scene it's her Naomi Watts and her Naomi Watts I think Jason Schwartzman is there and then

Dustin Hoffman yeah yeah yeah and they're all in this car and she's like going off and David you can hear David Russell offset and they're all just sitting there it's just so funny to watch the human behavior in that scene. Oh my God. Is this all on YouTube?

It's all on YouTube. Oh, you guys. You just set my afternoon up for me. There you go. No, it's really good. Watch that and then watch the video of Reese Witherspoon getting arrested. I've seen that.

Oh, it's so good. That's iconic. I've seen that. That's iconic. It's like a true do you know who my father is moment. Like so good. Do you know who I am? Oh, you're going to find out who I am.

This is going to be national news. You're arresting me. This is beyond. This is beyond. I'm an American citizen sitting on American ground. Sure. Possible idea for a future lip sync. Absolutely.

Too short. Too short. No, it's just. No, it's actually. It's the most grounded thing that's based most in reality that is purely unpolished, just raw material.

Should truly be like an NYU-ish monologue to like get in. You're arresting me. And then she's in the back of the police car by herself and she's like arresting me. She's by herself. She's drunk out of her mind. Drunk. And then she's like arresting me. She's by herself. She's drunk out of her mind. And then she's like,

I need to know what's going on, ma'am. Go sit in the car. And the police officer has the most ridiculous southern accent. And then she comes out and she goes, I'm pregnant. And she goes, the thing is, I'm pregnant.

Isn't she wasted visibly? She's so drunk. She was on the Today Show like two days later to like publicly apologize. And it's so funny because she's like another thing is I said I was pregnant I'm not pregnant.

I don't know why I said that. That is so funny. The thing is I'm pregnant. I'm pregnant. Okay and just to go back to the pregnancy. I'm obstructing your justice. I'm obstructing your justice. Really. Interesting. Interesting. Interesting. It's beautiful. It's her best performance. It's fun. It's beautiful. It's her best

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Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. So yes, Bette Miller, how do you feel about the first Wives Club? The reboot? Well, or the movie? Both. The movie, yeah, both. how do you feel about The First Wives Club? The reboot? Or the movie? Both. The movie, yeah, both. How do you feel about the movie and what are your thoughts about the reboot?

Well, the reboot hasn't come out yet, has it? Michelle Buteau is in it. Michelle Buteau is in it. A friend of mine who will support anything she does, truly would watch her read the phone book. Absolutely. The First Wives Club, the movie, I like it. It's not my favorite Bette thing. Your favorite Bette.

But I love it. I mean. But yet it. It's not my favorite bet thing. Your favorite bet. But I love it. But yet it is my favorite Goldie Hawn thing. I mean. I mean. But for me, Goldie Hawn, it's a smaller sample size. I'm a big Death Becomes Her. I just watched it for the first time. Are you?

And I have it on DVD. So for Joel's birthday, it was me, Joel, Louis Vertel, and Nico was there too. And we were all watching Death Becomes Her for the very first time. All of you? No, I was the only one that hadn't seen it. And I was obsessed. And I said, Bo and Yang, you and I have to redo that. You guys, like, did you know also that that movie,

I think either won or was nominated for an Oscar for CGI? It was the very first Oscar given. Because it was the first kind of movie that did stuff like that in the 90, like with the hole in her body. Yes, it was the first visual effects Oscar ever given. Wow. It won.

It won. Oh, okay. I literally was just Wikipedia-ing Death Becomes Her like a week ago. Oh my God. I forgot why. Yes. It is bonkers crazy. So good.

And you could never make that movie now because it's so long. The third act entirely leaves the game of the movie behind. it's so like long like the third act is like entirely leaves the game of the movie behind it's so crazy and just like a serious actress like Meryl Streep also being in a movie

like that too like now now I'm warning yeah she's so good and I said to I turned to Joel and I was like

this might be my favorite Meryl really it's so good she's so like pulpy in it and big and everything is like, and I kind of love when Meryl is like really,

really letting go. Do you know what also Meryl is so good in is She-Devil. You ever seen She-Devil with Roseanne Barr? No, with Roseanne Barr. It's like a Clank family favorite. Like we used to watch it like all the time. You know when like we had HBO and so like whatever was rotating on HBO, you would win.

Of course. And like it would just be on all the time. You know when we had HBO and so whatever was rotating on HBO, you would have only one. And it would just be on all the time. We were like, I was bonkers for She-Devil. Ed Begley Jr., Meryl Streep, Roseanne Barr. And I don't support Roseanne, but that movie is a great movie. Okay, I need to check out that one next. And Meryl is fully a romance novelist in it. So big and broad.

I love it. Just how you like her. Because the thing is, Meryl does big but it's still like acting like it's so at one scene she's like really crying

but it's like this big stupid soapy acting that you could tell they called cut and she was like it was done you know what I mean she's so good

and she's like very vain in it I really like watching Meryl play vain play vain like very obsessed with her looks. Like it's very funny. That was the whole message of the movie.

Yes. Right, right. She kind of did that in It's Complicated a little bit where she was basically doing a Diane Keaton in I love It's Complicated. Well now you're getting into my truly favorite genre which is later in life romance.

Yes. Like it is just my Let's talk about it. Like, it is just my dream. Let's talk about it. Like, it's complicated. Yeah, something's gotta give. Something's gotta give is my, one of my ultimates.

I think it's one of, I think it is one of my favorite rom-coms ever. Yeah. Something's gotta give. I truly love it so much. I like, I like downloaded on LimeWire like most of the French songs that are in it. Oh, wow.

Like, I'm obsessed with that movie. Oh, my God. I love that movie. And what are the other ones? I mean, all that. I mean, the Nancy Meyers,

but then also like just whenever it's like terms of 50 and I think it's over for me, but then I've meet someone and I'm still going to work. Did you see book club? Oh, you guys, I, I liked book club.

Here's the thing. I loved book club so much. And you guys know Elliot Glazer, right? Elliot had hated it so much that he had guys know Elliot Glazer, right? Yes. Elliot had hated it so much that he had me come on his podcast and we debated it. And everything that he hated about it was what I loved about it. Exactly. Not everything that's...

It's such a wacky movie. Yes. Things don't have to be good to be good. Right. Right. I wasn't like, Book Club was snubbed at the Oscars. It wasn't for that. Yeah. I just was like... I mean, the things he points out,

like, I'm sorry, when she's just in full clothes on a pool float in Sedona, I'm dying. Dying. Like, what's going on? And the exterior shots of that house were clearly in a soundstage. But you're right, like, Not everything has to be important. No, that's the thing. Sometimes movies are

just movies because the four of them decided to sign on. Candice Bergen had two weeks and she said, yeah, I'll do this. And everyone was like, yay! I was like, when are you going to see four post-menopausal women headlining a movie? This is amazing. And they're all legends.

I loved it. I was obsessed with the fact that I think Jane Fonda is 80 and Mary Steenburgen is 62. And they're in a posse together and there's an 18 year age difference. I loved it. And also anytime Mary Steenburgen

is given an opportunity to just be on stage for more than, I mean be in a movie for more than 20 minutes, that is a good thing. It's a good thing. And she, I thought, that was a movie for more than 20 minutes, that is a good thing. It's a good thing. And she, I thought, was like, that was truly

the grown-up version of her character in Parenthood. Wow. Just this really, like, this really sweet woman who just, like, wants things to work out. You know what I mean?

And in Step Brothers, too. Yeah. She was kind of like... Yeah, because I had been watching her so much in Last Man where she's kind of this bitch. Oh, sure, sure.

And, like, it was, like, the return to the sweet Mary Steenburgen that we all love. Of yore. Of yore. What was her line in Step Brothers when she breaks up the fight

and she just, I don't know, she screams some line. I'm famously not pro Step Brothers. I'm so pro Step Brothers. I've only seen it one time. I liked it, but I don't remember it.

I don't love John C. Reilly. Oh, but I, Allison Jones, Allison Jones casting, it's such a good movie. I don't love John C. Reilly. Oh, but I, Allison Jones, Allison Jones casting, it's such a good movie. I love Will Ferrell. I just, something about John C. Reilly,

when he does comedy, I'm like, I feel you trying. Oh my God, wait. I don't find him effortless. Okay, okay, but remove John, I don't particularly feel a strong way

about John C. Reilly, but it's like, you have like Adam Scott. No, I was gonna say, live for Adam Scott and Catherine Hahn in that movie Catherine Hahn is icon

just the whole Sweet Child of Mine acapella thing in the car is just like so Adam McKay genius and now and also the like son

I almost said the gay son he has no sexuality he's got a smile that it seems to me reminds me of childhood I saw myself in that kid and I'm like I respect you.

Amazing. But like, and now it's like Adam McKay's gonna direct like a Theranos film and he like just did like fucking, you know. Vice, yeah. Did you like Vice? Okay, here's the thing. I felt like during that election, I was like a broad. And so I didn't know a lot about Dick Cheney. So I liked the movie because it was so educational for me.

If you already know that Dick Cheney is like the devil, then I would say like that movie was like a little boring. Like my husband found it boring, but I was like, I didn't know all this stuff. So like for me, I learned a lot from it, but I didn't think it should have been like in the top 10 movies.

I nominated it. You know, what about you guys? I actually really liked it. Yeah. And I remember I saw it at like a about you guys i actually really liked it yeah yeah and i i remember i saw it like a sag screening and i i really liked it and then left the theater and i was there with like a bunch of uh critics like it was like a screening opportunity for critics and based on that screening they did reviews and i left the movie this is where i'm like maybe i'm like fully out of touch but i left the movie thinking that's gonna get great reviews and then

like richard lawson who was there and like everyone that was there gave it such negative reviews yeah and it ended up being like a very mixed reviewed film and so to see it nominated for best picture was surprising i was surprised but i was actually surprised it earned a negative reaction because i thought it was very effective but then again the criticism of it being like michael moore the movie i understand. It's very preachy and like. Yeah. And like, I mean, also, like, just really quickly, because we don't need to talk. This isn't a Vice podcast.

But like, you know, like he the beginning of the movie, he's like this sort of dirt bag and his wife's like straighten up. And then we cut to him in Congress. I just would have liked to have seen where he like what happened. I thought that was almost a comment on how easy it is for fucking white rich dudes to get in those positions. But was he rich? Because he was like, he was doing power lines.

I would say he wasn't rich, he was connected. Okay. And I think that was because of Lynn. And maybe one of his parents spent $500,000 to get him into USC. Oh my God. I can't believe that story.

Okay, we're recording this on March 16th. That story is only four days old. It's psycho. And it's already like permeated. For me, it's like fully permeated into. It's part of the culture now. The culture. Yeah.

Well, Joel had a good tweet and I heard somebody also say the exact same sentiment on Pod Save America. Yeah. That like it reminded me to 2014. Like I was like, this is the kind of news that we would talk about for two weeks.

Yeah, it really was. Before we would talk about for two weeks. It really was. Before we were just like Trump every day. Before it was not even the 24-hour news cycle, it was the 24-minute news cycle. Seriously. I grew up in a town where college was so important and status like that was so important. You grew up in Connecticut?

Yes. They printed the list of where everybody went to college in the town paper. Like, it was, like, a huge thing. That was a thing. Like, even though UConn is a wonderful, wonderful school, it was, like, embarrassing to go to UConn in state. Do you know what I mean?

It was a state school. Because you were in state. It was easier for you to get in as a Connecticut, you know, resident. And, like, I was, like, I always heard, I mean, I knew idiots that went to good schools because they could play football or, like, oh, their dad is the head of a bank or something like that. So none of that was surprising to me. The cheating on the tests, like the ACT and stuff and the SAT is so wild. And also the photoshopping of the crew.

Oh, the photoshopping of the water polo people. It's insane. That's actually stupid. Yeah. That's just plain stupid. Okay, wait, I have a question yeah how would people feel

about people going to New Haven or just going to basically just Yale was that like a thing where it was like well it's just Yale no no no Yale's Yale

yeah cool but just within Connecticut I'm curious about if you went to Columbia in New York it's still Columbia yeah the Ivies are the Ivies

I mean I went to school in Connecticut but I went to a private school like I went to and people were like, it was all about where it was ranked and blah, blah, blah. Yes, yes. That is a thing.

We actually were talking on, we did an episode recently. We talked about, like, SAT scores and ACT scores and the ranking of classes. Yeah. No, not classes. When they would give you in high school, like, what rank you were. Did they do this?

Oh, yeah. Like, we had 277 kids in our grade and i remember my rank was like 19 and it was good but it wasn't like top 20 good enough you know what i mean it was like it didn't get it like i remember kids were so obsessed with like which number they were and i was like a little part of me because i was very competitive at the time being like a closeted kid like looking for anything that could like distinguish me and say, look, I'm good because of this reason. But I remember thinking in the back of my mind, like the rational part of me was like, maybe they shouldn't tell us this. They shouldn't.

That's so, that's so, I mean, I get valedictorian, I guess, and salutatorian or whatever. But like, my mom was valedictorian and she went to the university of rochester because they paid for her to go there exactly yeah you know what i mean like she probably could have gone to an ivy league that maybe didn't give her as much money like my husband went to an just an okay school for free in retrospect i should have done that which is a little better absolutely and it's poison it's like that it's like it is that sort of like you know like patriarchal capitalist bullshit that says compete compete compete and then it's like wait for what compete to give you more of my money yeah and that's what it is it's like i think substantially what's substantially subconsciously what's happening is they're like yeah make these kids

fucking compete for shit because at the end of the day, the aspirational colleges are the ones that cost the most money. Yeah. Like I went to NYU, so did Bowen, and that's a fucking hole to dig yourself in. Financially. For a school that doesn't really care about you. It is. Yeah. I mean, my school has doubled since I graduated.

Wait, what do you mean? The tuition? Oh my God. It has doubled. It was like 30-something when I went. Now it's 60-something. Oh God. I mean, NYU's got to be up by 72,000 a year. NYU. If it 30 something when I went. Now it's 60 something. NYU's gotta be up by 72,000

a year. If it was 55 when we went? Oh yeah. Jesus. Yeah. Mine was in the high 30s. But yeah, it's so crazy. Well, I think you have such a good sense of

humor about your upbringing, I think. Especially on the album where you're just like, I'm from Connecticut, but what'd you say? Oh, you're like, I have such a good sense of humor about your upbringing, I think. Especially on the album where you're just like, yeah, I'm from Connecticut, but like, what'd you say? Oh, you're like, I'm rich person adjacent. Yeah, like, I have no money, but like, I grew up with so many rich people. And I have like, rich friends from summer camp. And like, I just have friends that are so loaded

on another level. It kind of like, I mean, we were that fucked with me when I was at NYU. I was like, oh, this is just a whole different level. Oh, yeah, exorbitant wealth. Well, people would take note of the town I was from, and then they'd be like, where'd you go to high school? And I'd go, New Canaan High School, the public school.

And they'd be like, oh, why didn't you go to boarding? And I'm like, because it's one of the best public schools. That's why my parents moved there. What are you talking about? I mean, I'm one of six kids, so it's like we weren't like all getting our own car and all getting to go to private school. Do you know what I mean?

So yeah, like I remember being blown away by the money when I, even growing up in a rich town, I was blown away by the money when I went to college because 70% of my class went to private school or boarding school. And then I was part of the 30

that went to lowly public schools, which are probably all some of the greatest public schools. I know, it's so interesting. Oh my God. I identify with that because a lot of my friends, they had a lot of money, but we didn't. We were middle class, but it was just interesting

to watch them pick schools to go to and the cultural conversation around college amongst those people because Long Island is very maybe maybe Connecticut is like this too

I'm not sure I'm sure it's similar but it's like you have very well to do people and then you could go two streets over

and there's people that are like barely getting by yeah town to town it's like that yeah yeah yeah I mean my town was pretty much

all like one you know and so for that to all get mixed in like when people were getting their decisions from colleges back it was like wow it's not merit-based where you're gonna go it's there's so many other things to consider and i think if if 17 and 18 year olds were actually more aware of the financial realities they would be kind of more open to doing alternative things like maybe not going to school right away.

Or going to vocational school. Or going to the trade school or something like that. In California, it's actually, my friend was telling me it's very popular in California to do community college for a couple of years and then go to a bigger. And then go to another school. Which I dig more. It's the smart thing to do.

I really think it's the smart thing to do. I really think it's the smart thing to do. I think everybody should take a couple years off between high school and college, and I never thought that when I was younger. My dad would say that to me, and I'd be like, whatever, Dad. And now I'm like, I was 17 when I went to college. What did I know about anything?

I picked the dumbest classes. I mean, I was a theater major. Who let me do it? I mean, I ended up doubling in English because my mom was like, please don't embarrass me. Yeah, right, right, right. But like,

but think about- Okay, I'll major in English. I'll major in an equally useless major. Yeah. No, no, that's very smart. I doubled. That's very smart.

If you think about why you went to school at 17, 18, though it's just because that was the expectation, not because- Right. In any way, were you like,

and even if you were quote unquote ready, like, you wouldn't know that. You know the difference between being ready and not ready to move the fuck

out of your house? Totally. Like, I don't know, I think traveling is a good idea. That's what I mean, like,

go do some like volunteer program or something wild, I don't know. Or just like, have no reins and then you will find the thing that you will want

to learn more about and be interested in and then you follow that instinct and then you learn that because like I fucking majored in chemistry when I was 17 too and I was like, oh, I guess this is what I should like.

Because you thought you were gonna go pre-med. Exactly. And I was like, I guess this is what I should do and then it was a total farce and I do consider most of college being wasted time for me, which sucks.

That's so funny. It's not wasted for me because of the friendships I made and the community which sucks. That's so funny. It's not wasted for me because of the friendships I made and the community I shared. But that is like, is that worth $210,000? I don't know. The money is so, I'm like,

I definitely learned how to think critically and write a good essay, which I feel like I kind of knew before I went, but also, I have great friends from there. I had the best time. I was wasted all the time. Was that worth $180,000? You could have done that anywhere.

You could do that in Amsterdam. It's like even now in our careers where it's like, well, I've been auditioning and I've worked on pilot presentations and I've done this. I guess I've met cool people and made connections. But you can't quantify that shit either well I think that's what's actually kind of a little bit cool about show business in a way is that like when I went to the page program like that was like a very competitive program the people went to schools I'd never heard of before

like I was in it with like a couple Princeton's or whatever but people that went to schools I'd never heard of and I was like oh this business doesn't care about college really they do not give a shit that I went to a college that was like in the top 25 liberal arts colleges. You were like, what's Oberlin? Yeah, exactly.

Like I think NYU, in retrospect, I'm like I should have gone to NYU because I would have met more people that I ended up meeting later and I would have started UCB sooner and like blah, blah, blah, you know? Like it would have been a quicker road. But that is kind of,

I definitely think that show business is a lot about connections, but I don't think it's about education as much. And like, um, like privilege, but like, it's not about like money and upbringing and like, like that kind of stuff as much.

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What else do we have? Okay, okay. Just like stuff that I was really into when I was- Yeah, stuff that was like, okay, that's it. Or even like lately or whatever. Okay, well like what am I into now? Yeah, sure. Oh, okay.

I mean like, well, I told Matt this when we got together a few weeks ago. We had lunch. I am a late convert but fully obsessed drag race fan. Okay, sure. Oh, okay. I mean, like, well, I told Matt this when we got together a few weeks ago. We had lunch. I am a late convert but fully obsessed drag race fan. Okay. Beautiful. We can discuss this. Talk us through your journey. So my journey is I have a gay brother who also was pre-med and is also very funny and did UCB classes and made the choice to go.

Pre-med? He's a doctor now. Now he's the funniest doctor. He's a doctor. Yeah, and he's very funny. Oh my God. And he is, yeah, in his residency for neurology at Yale right now.

I have a question. Gay, funny doctor, is he single? No. I hate that. He has a boyfriend who we love. Oh, okay, that's fine. Yeah, he met him in medical school too. I need them to like support me

if this doesn't work out. So I need them to stay together. That double doctor income. Well, we love. No, no. And so did he introduce you? me if this doesn't work out. So I need them to stay together. That double doctor income. Well, we love. No, no. Did he introduce you? So he, for years, was like, watch this, watch this, watch this. You'll love it. I was like, Colin, I can't get into something that's nine seasons in or

eight seasons in. I get that. Plus All Stars. I was like, it's too overwhelming. So then he finally came to LA or he came out to LA like a year ago. Truly, I'm coming up on my one year of getting into Drag Race Anniversary. He came to LA like or he came out to LA like a year ago truly I'm coming up on my like one year of getting into Drag Race anniversary he came to LA

he logged me in to his on my Apple TV to his Apple account he has every season purchased and I was like well now I have no excuse my husband went to Australia

for two weeks I was like kind of hanging around a little bit I just started with season four and fully you did it right that's what he told me to do

and he that's you know that's what he told me to do and he that's you know that's a gay doctor good gay doctor and I just got so obsessed with it but here's the other thing that really pulled me in

was I started watching uh on YouTube Trixie and Katya Trixie and Katya show and I found it so funny it is so funny that I was like

oh if this is what it's like I want to watch this show yeah and so I started watching four, five, then I think I may have skipped to seven because I just wanted to see Trixie and Katya's season. Then I went back to six. Then I did all stars, eight, nine, like 10.

Now I'm fully caught up. And I just last week started on one. I started season one. The lighting. The lighting. It's a whole different gig. It really is. But I am so like truly like I started in March by May.

I went to drag con. Yeah. Like I went to see work the world in October with Elliot Glazer. Oh yeah. Oh right. She went to go see work the world. I went to work the world. We've never been to work the world.

Like I just like now Elliot will just hit me up for anything drag and I'm like yes I want to go to all of it. I was living in WeHo and I would go to some of the, um, viewing parties at like, yeah. And like blazing saddles and stuff or flaming saddles. Excuse me. It's flaming saddles.

Melbrooks on the brain. And, uh, and I just like love it so much that I like cannot believe I resisted or that this hasn't been a part of my life for like my entire life. That's beautiful. Just really quickly. I want to say I've been trying to convince my sister to watch it since day one. And she's like been like,

okay, maybe yes, someday. Bowen sister, I was you. Yeah. You got to just make that once. And I even had watched like the first episode of season one of four and was like,

okay, this is like project runway or whatever with drag Queens. I get it. But then you realize it's every reality show. It's every reality show, and it's like, I love what a genius RuPaul is with the, just how I know every day what he's gonna say

at the exact same time. He's really, he's a talent. It's an extremely good reality show. I think it's probably the best reality show, competitive reality show out there. And's probably the best reality show, competitive reality show out there. And I recently got

my husband into it. He started with me on The Last All Stars and he loves it. He literally sits there and he goes, I just don't know. He's like,

I know Manila's a comedy queen, but I mean, he like goes into full like analysis of it and it's so funny. Oh, that's awesome. So let's just talk about, because this is the last

completed season was All Stars 3, what did you think of the result? Four, four. That's awesome. So let's just talk about because this is the last completed season was All Stars 3. What did you think of the result? Oh, 4. All Stars 4. That was a bummer. I was disappointed. I was disappointed. I really thought Manila should have been in the top and I understand life's not

fair, Naomi. But I just I don't know. I felt like I didn't think Monet was the strongest. I love Monet but I didn I don't know I felt like I didn't think Monet was the strongest I love Monet but I didn't think she was of the strongest of the ten and then I felt like I was like well I know that they're trying to make more like diverse decisions

of who gets in there we didn't want to have like just another white queen in there but like it honestly should have even though I'm a huge Trixie stan it should have gone to Shangela last season and then we wouldn't have been in this predicament i think they shot themselves in the foot by doing too many shenanigans yeah now they have to answer that with more shenanigans and it's like they only start do they start with 10 or 9 10 they start with 10 and then like to win like 20 of the competition wins yeah honestly like it's just i

don't know i I was disappointed. It was disappointing. But it was a season that was all over the place where it was like, it started out kind of in the middle and then it like

dipped and then got really good and then like the Lollapalooza thing was genius, I thought. Like genius TV to just do like an episode of lip syncs. Oh, the lip sync, lip sync,

lip sync, lip sync. Yeah. That was really good. I was like, I love this. This is okay, cool. Like they're still inventing new ways really good. I was like I love this. This is okay cool. Like they're still inventing new ways to like. I always am surprised

how they come up with new stuff. It's like 11 seasons plus four all stars in and there's still like twist. Right. Like I love it.

That's crazy to think there's been actually 15 seasons. Yeah. Nuts. I mean it is like overwhelming at this point to like go in. Are you guys loving the current?

We just came from a recap podcast. And my thing is, and this sounds very toxic and gross and disgusting, but I promise it's just my take on this. And I was watching this most recent episode with Joel. It was the six-person lipsync for your life. But this is way beforehand. I was watching the challenge play out and I turned to Joel. I goes,

this is why I'm not really connecting to the season yet. This is a good point because no one is like, no one is like a brilliant mind. No, I'm not looking at any of these Queens and thinking, wow, what is their brain? Like,

right. It's like with, with Katya or like Alaska or Bob or Bianca or like Sasha even, or like Asia, Ginger Minj. I mean, there's like people I love on it. I mean, I love Jinx so much. Jinx.

Oh, Jinx is amazing. Yeah. Friend of the pod. Friend of the pod. These people were just like, wow, like you were just so like, you were so, eccentric's not the right word, but you're just like, you were. Forward thinking. Forward thinking.

Pushing the art form. Got it. Whereas it literally feels like all of these queens are and again what I also said is let's give we haven't seen this yet it's early but I do feel like a lot of these queens are like oh there's the Kennedy

Davenport there's the one that's like Sharon there's the one that's like this it's like we are not seeing queens that are doing truly new things. And I think it's two things. It's A. It's early.

The show getting a little lazy in casting just because it is season 11. Yeah. And B, because we have seen so many kinds of queens, it's getting hard to see something we've never seen before. Totally. something we've never seen before. The vocabulary of the fans is, for better or worse, now we all feel like we know everything. I'd say Evie is the closest we're getting to that, probably. I'm interested in Evie, oddly. And I know that she is a version of a queen we've seen before,

but I'm really rooting for Akaria Davenport. I like Akaria. I'm really rooting for her. Yeah, I like Akaria. Because I was aira Davenport. I like Akira. I'm really rooting for her. Yeah I like Akira. Because I was a Kennedy Davenport fan in season 7. Like when it got down to it when it was like Ginger Minj, Violet Pearl and Kennedy and Kennedy

didn't make the top 3 I was like that feels really wrong. That feels really wrong to me like that Pearl is in the top 3 and not Kennedy. You said Akira is like Kennedy if Kennedy took a cold brew? I said if Kennedy Davenport drank a Red Bull.

A Red Bull. That's Akira Davenport. I was going to say, I remember Kennedy being a little sleepy. Yeah. That's actually part of her charm for me

is fuck my drag. You know what I mean? Just kind of like this old bitch in the corner that's seen the whole world and is letting the children play. I love that. But then when she dances, she's fully flipping up on top of her ass

it's insane and I love that dichotomy and I'm just like usually gagged for what she wears on the runway too so I just thought and also I have such a respect for this like southern pageant drag like because I think it takes so much to be so fabulous

like and so bold in a place a part of the country where obviously it's not easy. Yeah. And also I feel like that's really like OG drag. It's honoring tradition. It's honoring the way you interpret it. And I think we haven't seen someone like that win. And I think Asia O'Hara got close. Got close.

But Akira Davenport, I like her and I'm into her. Because of what she is and where she comes from. There's a few that I think are fun. I just think there are so many that are clearly going to be eliminated so quickly. There's a lot of filler. That I'm like, we got to fast forward like four episodes. Because I know who the next four people are that are leaving. I think we need to fast forward like six or seven.

Yeah, in other seasons I've been like, I don't know. The first couple you're usually like okay I'm dying over Vanjie this season I remember watching season 10 season 10 was the first one I watched in time with the rest of the world and I was like why are they letting this woman go

why are they letting this person go this is this woman I love her to the best when Asia O'Hara was like, let the woman do her makeup when someone was bothering someone else. That's so funny to me. I was just like,

this is like this beautiful drag queen who when they open their mouth, they sound like, yeah, like they gruff and like what she says is so funny.

Like I can't believe, honestly, I did think her outfit sucked or whatever, but why are you letting this person out the door? She's so good at TV. And that's the thing,

is it's like, that's why we're latching onto Vanjie, is because we haven't seen anything like her before. But the reason I felt the same way at the premiere of Tenno was like, don't let her go, because she opens her mouth and she's like, fucking Alyssa Edwards. But the thing about letting her go and memefying her in the way that they did is they made her

a legend, and now she is fucking so good. Now she has to live up to it. But she is here to stay. And her a legend and now she is fucking so good. But she is here to stay. She is here to stay. I think she'll either make the top four or get cut fifth place. And it'll be a huge upset and everyone will be mad. Even if it's not an upset, she'll still have been in every episode, which is really what counts. Get those checks.

Get that fucking Cameron Michaels your way to the end. Oh, I mean, well. Like, I mean, look, the woman got her money. Exactly. And now she's like headlining all the tours because you got to see her perform. Yeah.

Because the woman can perform. Yeah, she can. And you're going to see Cameron on All Stars. You will. You will. Do you have a special relationship with 10 then? Because it's the first season that you started watching with the rest of the world?

Or maybe, or not? No, I don't think so. I mean, I was like excited to be watching it with everybody else and I was like reading

your guys' recaps and stuff on Vulture which were so fun. Previously had not been able to engage with the internet on any of the other seasons. But, I don't know.

I don't know. I love, I just feel like I love certain queens throughout and there's not like a certain season that I'm like obsessed with. It's hard. Also, it's hard when you watch it.

I watched it so back to back. Like it was like an all consuming diet. That's what my sister did. Yeah, so it's almost hard to separate the seasons that way. But I did like pretend like I went to bars and to watch it with other people is so fun. It's very fun. and like I met Mayhem at Mickey's she could not

have given a shit but I was like I love you can we take a picture she hated me it was so fun she was nice she was nice she was just like disinterested and wanted to like get on to her thing I think do you did you have a favorite spot in LA that you watched it um I well I've

watched it now at Mickey's and Flaming Saddles. I would love to go I don't know. High Tops is fun. Oh, yeah. Formerly Bar 10. Oh, yes. I went to after I watched and watched a drag show one time because it makes Thursday into this whole drag night.

So I went to when it was Bar 10 famously. Went and caught the post-RPDR drag show that they do. See, there's no drag show at High Tops afterwards, but you can probably find one pretty easily. Oh, yeah. And then in New York, what's a good place to watch it in New York? Oh, yeah, and then in New York, I saw you when I went to go see, I went with Drew Anderson to go see Brita Filter. Oh, was that at Ace Hotel?

No, it was at therapy. Yes. And I saw you and you were with this whole group of guys and Joel. And I go, where's Bowen? And you were sick. I was sick? Oh, my God. I think that was therapy.

And then also. And Joel had to get on stage and he showed his little tight little butt. He showed his ass. I remember this day. Yeah, and that was shocking. That was the first time I saw Joel's ass. Well, first and only time I saw Joel's ass. And I'm like, oh, he misses no his ass. Oh, I remember this day. Yeah, and that was shocking. That was the first time I saw Joel's ass. Well, first and only time I saw Joel's ass

and I'm like, oh, he misses no squats apparently. Right, right. Yeah, his butt was, and like he was paired up with like a hairy, hairy man

who was not in the same physical shape as Joel, which no shame, but it was just, it was an interesting juxtaposition. It's hard to be on the same physical level as Joel.

Yeah, it was like, I feel bad that you had to come up here with Joel who is like literally marble butt cheeks. Marble that. it was very bad. But usually we watch it at Ace Hotel, but now they have like a Thursday

night conflict, so you can't watch it there. But it sucks, because we watched season nine at Ace Hotel, and I feel that season nine was one of the stronger seasons, especially as it got going. Like, I felt like the top seven of season nine, like as it really got to the top five, top four, and then when it

ended in that epic lip sync smackdown and Sasha Velour, the rose puddles. I get so emotional. That was an iconic moment and to watch that happen with hundreds of gays in the basement of Ace Hotel was so insane. Talk about a

come from behind shocking victory. That was amazing i think watching it with other people is like so so so fun so very fun hopefully my baby can be i was gonna say the baby will will have to love it i mean i'll bring there's i was planning to bring the baby to drag con because it's very chill at drag con it's a lot of families you can like kids there you can like drag up the stroller. Yeah, there's so much space. Like I wouldn't feel like I was, you know, I don't wait in lines really.

No. I got to meet Alaska through a friend and I got to meet some queens through friends, but I don't really, I can't wait in a line. No, no, no, no. There are better ways. But I don't know,

I would love to be able to get a babysitter on Thursdays and head over to WeHo again. Honestly, we'd get a babysitter. We'd get a babysitter on Thursdays and head over to WeHo again. We get a babysitter on Thursday. But the thing is, I get nervous about babysitters when the babies are really little. Sure. Right?

Yeah. But also, if they're starting to sleep through the night, you just need a body to sit there. Exactly. There you go. But that's down the road. That's probably season 13.

Or season 12. Season 12. Don't you think, but is Britta gonna do season 12? Well, the rumor is. This was the rumor I heard, probably from the same source. What we are hearing is that Britta will be on the show, but I don't wanna say too much.

It's weird, because obviously you don't know until someone's in the room shooting it, but I think that they've, I think that they've I think that they have reached out and I think that obviously I mean look that's not even tea that's just like she's Britta Filter

I mean she's the drag queen of New York she was so good like I just went with on Drew's rec and was like this is such a fun show and even the girl she was with that night who I don't remember her name but was doing these really funny Addams Family Values monologues and stuff

that were cracking me up like I mean I forgot she kind of had like a Celine Dion look to her face tiny oh my god

was it Chelsea Piers no I don't think so no maybe we love Chelsea we love Chelsea anyway I thought Britta was like fantastic

I was just like she's magnetic no she's incredible and I was just like she's magnetic and I also think like I think that Britta doesn't want to go on the show unless she's gonna win I think because I think Britta wants to be like a RuPaul I think Britta is good

enough and driven enough and works hard enough I mean that bitch that fucking turns she blew my mind. Oscar Montoya and I, you remember this name. Yeah, I remember this the first time I saw her. This was like five years ago. We booked her for Ethnic Realness,

and she did a lip sync where she basically just did a bunch of songs, but it would cut into key and peel sketches, and she would lip sync the entirety of key and peel, both their dialogue. It was so funny. What is this? She's so good, and honestly, both their dialogue. Yeah. And I was just like, what is this? She's so good. And honestly,

she can do it all. But I think that she just, I think she wants to win the show. And I think she doesn't want, she didn't want to go on too early. It's a tough thing for a queen. Well, yeah. Somebody told me she was waiting

to like get better at sewing. That's what I heard. See, like she like is, that is very remarkable. That's so smart. Yeah. And I think she definitely has a shot but it's like

but then it's like you hear about the mayhems who go on the show and those are like the Britta Filters of LA right and then they get they get booted

on the third episode well I think it's it also just comes down to what kind of person you are are you the kind of person who deals well in a competitive setting

or high pressure environment because just performing and you know even being good freaking out in the second challenge getting in her head she needs to take a UCB class and don't think you guys honestly I know but I think that is the key it's just

kind of like don't judge yourself just go there and do you but that's hard for some people you know what's funny to watch or it's sad to watch a little bit but I think Tammy Brown is so funny and and I'm watching her on season one. So kooky. And she just, nobody gets what she's doing. They're all just like, who's that?

And now she's iconic. And now she's so, like, probably more successful than most of them. Well, I would think, yeah, there's Bebe Zahara from season one, and then on Gina, and then there's Tammy Brown. Like, Nina's still doing gigs in Denver, and one and then on Gina, and then there's Tammy Brown. Yeah. Nina's still doing gigs in Denver. Nina deserves a bigger career, but it's like Tammy,

she's the one who's in stuff. Oh yeah, Nina. But Tammy's face is at All Stars 1. Amazing. She's just like, the judges are critiquing her and she's just like. Also, it's so weird. And when she does the lip sync

where she doesn't do it, she just is bopping like a mom at a wedding. Like, it's so good. Honestly, I would have said Chantal, you stay. For a brazen, like, I'm not doing it. I don't want to do this. Even like Valentina, I don't know the words, but like, no, I'm not doing it.

Also, I don't see you out there walking children in nature. I haven't gotten to that. That's a reunion, right? Walking children in nature. And also, excuse your mouth, to RuPaul. Excuse your mouth. Excuse your mouth. I've been told that that's all in the reunion episode

that I need to get to. Yeah, no, it's iconic. But the thing is, and RuPaul was so mad. This is when RuPaul allowed himself to look like a little rough. RuPaul was like, Tammy, it's not my problem. It's your problem. It's not my fault that you looked bad. It's your fault. You're the one. I need an opportunity. And RuPaul's screaming.

It's like Tyra. And she says the word fuck and Tammy goes, excuse your mouth. It's good. Well, I just like, I mean, I think she's channeling Tyra the whole time, right? I think so. As well as a million other pieces. As well as like, yeah.

Paris is burning, like all these different things. But. Well, now I feel like nowadays RuPaul would never allow himself to just be. Right, because. And that way, because he knows how many people are watching. Season 10 reunion though. I was going to say, but even with Asia and with the Vixen. Yeah.

I didn't think that he really went too tight, too crazy. Yeah, but that was definitely more than we've seen. And I mean, honestly, that was more sort of Asia breaking down. And I think that is an iconic moment. It is iconic. We should be the best people! The best people! The best people! The Vixen is obviously someone who's crying out for help. We should be the first people. The first people. The first people. It's so good.

The vixen is obviously someone who's crying out for help. It's actually a beautiful moment of vulnerability. And I will forever, I will follow Asia to the ends of the earth. Yeah, but you know that Asia went backstage. And the vixen was like, no, bitch. That's not what that was. Oh, my God. I'm fine.

So funny. I just didn't want to be there anymore because it was whack. On Work the World, Asia pays homage to the butterflies. It's so great. So I hear. She needs to put out a press release for this migration this week. Yeah, that's been happening.

Have you noticed? Yes. I haven't seen a single one. I was driving in Silver Lake the other day and they were just swooping in front of my car. It was like amazing. I haven't seen a single fly. And my husband hasn't seen one.

He goes, I think you're lying to me about this. No, Joel and I went on a hike in Runyon and they were all around us. It was beautiful. They And my husband hasn't seen one. He goes, I think you're lying to me about this. No, Joel and I went on a hike in Runyon and they were all around us. It was beautiful. They were all around us. All around us. Okay, it might be about that time. I think it's about that time.

It is about that time to do I Don't Think So Honey. Yes, yes, yes. And I don't think so. I Don't Think So Honey is our one minute segment that we take to take a minute, a literal minute, to rail against something in pop culture that needs to be dressed down because, well, we don't like it. We don't like it very much.

We don't like that very much. Shall I go first? You should go first, as is traditional. As is tradition. Okay, I will now hand my phone over to Bowen so that he can put me on the clock. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Flash mob wedding proposals. Oh.

Because it's just, not only is it not smart, because here's the thing. There is not just one answer you could get. There are two. And, you know, that's like high risk. High risk, high reward. But I don't think so, honey, if the person says no. Then you've wasted everyone's time. In fact, hundreds of people's time. Also, I don't think so, honey, flash mob wedding proposals because it's really for you.

You know what I mean? And that, to me, is not a marriage. You know what I mean? That's not really taken into account. Unless your person said, I want a flash mob wedding proposal, I don't think so, honey. And also, if you are saying, I want a flash mob wedding proposal, I do not think so, honey. You fucking narcissist, egomaniac. Everything is psychotic.

Also, choreography in these settings. You're telling me you called a rehearsal for your flash mob wedding proposal? Did you pay everyone? You paid everyone? Five seconds. I don't think so, honey. I don't think you paid everyone an equal wage. I don't think so, honey.

Flash mob wedding proposals. Quiet night on a rooftop with the moon in view. And that's one minute. Wow. Oh my god. That's like my wedding proposal was like that. What? Balcony, nighttime, just the two of us. Personnel. Here's the thing. I did

once cry to a flash mob wedding proposal video, but that was obviously because the girl like really, really, really was so overwhelmingly happy the whole time. But I was like, otherwise, it's like, I don't know.

There's too many opportunities for it to go the other way, and then what? It's supposed to be about you guys. Why are there a hundred people involved? We shouldn't need a union lunch break for my wedding proposal. You know what I mean?

Craft services and your wedding proposal. My wedding proposal was catered. Also, your wedding will not live up to that. And if it does, you are the 1%. And I don't think so, honey. It is such a gamble. Gamble. Gamble.

What about a flash mob promposal? Yeah, love that. Oh, fine. Love that. The worst thing that can happen is they say no. Low stakes. Also love that

because if they say no, that's just funny. You know what I mean? It's not tragic. Wow, you went through a lot of trouble. No thanks. No thanks.

I'm actually going with Todd. He just asked me two minutes ago. And then he's like in the choreography. He's like, yeah, I didn't tell you because I hate you. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. And his time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, Carly Rae Jepsen. Listen, you have not evolved, honey.

And I needed you to evolve. You promised us a disco-inspired album. And you have not delivered on that promise. And it's the same bubblegum-y stuff. I'm not going to call it drivel. I don't mind it, but there's been no topography to your music. I am going to liberate everyone out there

who loves Carly Rae. We love the new stuff, but is it something that she, it's a straight line. I want an uphill trajectory for her, okay? 30 seconds. I need there to be a slope to this. I need an uphill trajectory for her, okay? 30 seconds. I need there to be a slope to this. I need her to progress and evolve as an artist.

I don't want her, I don't want us gays to keep her in a container and tell her to stay there and then we're just gonna clap for every few years like she's fucking Tinkerbell and she can't change up her look or change up her sound. 15 seconds. She needs to evolve.

She promised us disco and it's the same stuff. And so here we, and this is, this is a clarion call for everyone out there. We need to demand more of our pop stars. We cannot demand them to be the same person. And that's one minute. I have to say, the energy in this room from the three of us watching you do that,

it was as if you said a slur. Yeah. It was crazy. I was taken aback. I can't believe you got there. Everyone, I was really afraid to say this, but love the new stuff,

but I'm also like, but it feels so, but if I want, it feels flat. It feels like a wash. And we've seen people do the same, same, same and then disappear.

And you want more for Carly. I want more for Carly. But it's hard to just write hit songs when the bar is so high. Bar is so high for her, absolutely. But then she was like hinting at all this evolution that as of now, maybe once the album comes out. Has not revealed itself.

Has not revealed itself. I understand. It even sounds like, not a regression back to Kiss, but it sounds like it's on par with Emotion, which we don't mind. But it's like she was building up to something with like Emotion

and then one of the best albums ever then Side B then the B sides and then Cut to the Feeling as this like promotional single that would like

fucking blew everyone's mind I do love that song and now it's like okay well now it's like is the traction there is it getting going to where it wants where she wants to go?

I think if she like came out with something, she promised like disco. And it hasn't really been that. Yeah, I mean, I get it. You explain yourself well. I'm just shocked to hear it. Anyway, I just, I think I'm not alone in this. And so I think other people, if you agree, if you share the sentiment, I still fucking adore her and obsessed with her. Yeah, you just want to be talking about it if you agree, if you share the sentiment, I still fucking adore her and

obsessed with her. You wouldn't be talking about it if you didn't care. You know what? Exactly. You wouldn't be talking about it if you didn't care. Yeah. But there you go. So now we pivot from that to Cara. Okay, so can this be okay, this can be like the way that they are in the live show sort of where it's like it just doesn't have to

necessarily be. I got it. Whatever your heart desires. This is Cara Clanks. I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Women that are bragging about having an unmedicated birth. Oh.

What is wrong with you? Like we have, as mankind, we have developed the drugs that will make this so much easier for you and you want to be some kind of hero, warrior, spirit woman that does it without drugs. I guess let's pin a medal on your already engorged chest. I don't understand why that would be fun for you. You never hear somebody go, I got my appendix out unmedicated. 30 seconds.

Brave. Like, it's a fucking huge ordeal on your body. Why would I not take something to numb me from the waist down? It's so wild to me. I just watched a unmedicated childbirth video in a childbirth class last week. Oh, 15 seconds. And honestly, it didn't look fun. No.

And at the end, we're both going to have babies. Yep. I want the drugs five minutes before I walk in the door. Five seconds. I want the drugs five minutes before i walk in the door five seconds drugs immediately and i think you trying to act like you're better than me is bullshit and that's one minute there you go that is beautiful because it is not more enriching to like i truly i used to hear people say stuff like you're so out of it i'm like it's not a drug on your brain. It literally just numbs the bottom part of you. Is the, is the sort of idea behind this, that taking no drugs is quote unquote, less risk for the baby. Is that what it is? The only con that I've heard is a blood pressure

thing. It can spike your blood pressure. I've had zero blood pressure problems. If you have a blood pressure problem, obviously I'm not telling you to go take the drugs. And you do what your doctor tells you to do and what you feel best with. Of course, I'm mostly joking about this, but I was in this class where we all went around and I was like kind of one of the first people and I go, and I want the drugs like immediately. And I got a laugh.

And then nine out of the 10 women were like, I'd like to go unmedicated for as long as possible. Good for them. They're not going to make it all the way. I was like, best of luck. Every friend of mine that said they did that begged for the drugs. Yeah, you're begging for the drugs. Also, if anything, it's the pain of being unmedicated that takes you out of it.

And also, what you don't want is to say, no drugs, no drugs, and then it becomes too late. Yeah, you miss the window. You do miss a window where they're like, I've had friends say that they're like, I want the drugs. And they're like, can't anymore. Oh, my God. That has to be the worst thing to hear. Yeah. Like being in so much pain that you beg for the drugs and then they say no.

No, we can't do it. To know that it's only going to get worse. Yeah, that's so scary. My friend went for her first kid had it. And then the second one, she was too late. Just getting to the hospital, she was too late. And she was like, what a different experience. Whoa.

I just, God. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Papa is shook. Papa is shook. You are like so shook. I'm just like, I want those drugs ASAP. I told my doctor this yesterday. It's actually a rule of culture number 19.

I want those drugs ASAP. That goes for me in any circumstance. Wow. This was a fucking very fun episode. Thank you for having us be part of this pregnancy experience. Because we are the baby's godfathers. We are the baby's godfathers. You are.

You fully are. As a Jew that doesn't do godparents, you are fully the godparents. Well, then why not, right? Why not? Just tell the baby it has godparents. So the album is out, Undefeated. Yes, it's on iTunes. Please help me feed my child.

Yes. It's such a good album. We love it so much. And check out Kara's other stuff, y'all. And the show is every Thursday. Yeah, my show every Thursday in West Hollywood at Bar Lubitsch. It's called Better Half. Are you still doing If You Build It?

If You Build It is in New York. It's in New York now. I thought it was both coasts. It was on both coasts, but recently UCB Sunset is closed on Mondays. And so now I'll be doing it probably sporadically out here. But in New York, it's a Sunday night show. At UCB, it's subculture. And it's a really great show. It's so good.

Yeah, and I'm going to have Matt Rogers on my show before he leaves LA. It's probably too late for you, but I would love for you to do it. Oh, my God. Next time I'm here, I would love to. Because you leave tomorrow. I do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love to have you on.

Cara Clank. We'd love to be there. Cara. I mean, canon. Cara's canon. Cara's canon. You guys, this was so fun. And thank you for being here.

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