Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Improbable Juices" (w/ Tawny Newsome & Andrew Ti)

Episode Date: April 10, 2019

This week, Matt and Bowen are joined in LA by Tawny Newsome and Andrew Ti. They discuss Asian pears, whether or not panthers are in the LA wild, LeAnn Rimes originals, and more!---MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasLAS CULTURISTAS HAS A PATREON! For $5/month, you get exclusive access to WEEKLY Patreon-ONLY Las Culturistas content!!https://www.patreon.com/lasculturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Forever! Dog! Look, man. There. Oh, I see. Dog. And I, can I say something? Please. You always ask for permission and you always have it. Thank you for giving me the permission either way. I have been in LA now for some time, performing a lot less. Oh. Like, this is the thing with like, I feel like you come out to LA when you're, I'm a New Yorker. Uh-huh.

And I feel like I'm performing all the time, getting on every show. Every show here in LA, I'm in fucking bed at literally 9.30 PM. Because that's the L. And I think I like it better. That's the L, honey. It's actually rule of culture number nine. That's the L, honey. I think I like being a person who goes to bed early

and gets up early as well. So that's what you're doing. I think I like this culture because in New York, I am fully up until two o'clock in the morning and if I wake up at 11.45 and catch the last 15 minutes of The View, it's a blessed day. Wow. I mean, but with New York, it's like either your blood vessels are screaming or you're just so lethargic. I'm so happy that you said blood vessels are screaming because I was thinking to myself, we need to find a way to spice up

this LA versus New York conversation. How are we going to make this the definitive LA versus New York conversation? And when you, honey, said blood vessels screaming, I saw that and I thought that's visual. And that's why you're an artist. And that's why you're a vocal artist. You are amazing, Bowen.

Bowen, you are an amazing vocal artist. And thank you. I think my new joke area is like, vaso humor. Yes. Like blood vessel humor. Can I say some things? Happa's laughing.

Hot associate producer Alec is laughing at my... But you know what? We have so much in common. We're both from Denver. We both were IB kids, International Baccalaureate, which is just a really silly program. Yeah, I don't care.

Oh no, but we both remembered it very fondly. I don't mean to poo-poo on IB, but. I was advanced placement. What a gorgeous, quick friendship that I've struck up with Hapa. That's amazing. And Hapa means, as we briefly mentioned, half Asian. Oh. So shorthand for saying half Asian. Oh, up with Hapa. That's amazing. And Hapa means, as we briefly mentioned, half Asian.

So shorthand for saying half Asian. Oh, they're half. And you are fully white? Full Jewish. Full Jewish. Which is why. That's good. Jewish is white.

Now speaking of race. Speaking of race. Here's the thing. Whenever. Whenever. I make an appearance on LA what I say

to the people is I say I would like to do podcasts and they say okay and the people Sam Varela namely

will reach out and she'll come back and she'll say here's the podcast that would accept you on as a guest and whenever I see yo is this the podcast that would accept you on as a guest. And whenever

I see, yo, is this racist? And they always accept me on as a guest. I say, I would like to do that show. One of the best podcasts. I have such a good time. And guess what? I have such a good time listening because I think, I'm like, oh, I'm just, truly I don't feel, I don't feel that same

thing with a lot of podcasts that a lot of people talk about where they're just like, oh, it feels like I'm sitting with cool people and having a conversation. Most of the time I'm like, oh, I'm being told about Elizabeth Holmes scamming, you know, whatever. Which is what we discussed on our Dwayne Perkins episode. But when you listen to these two, I'm truly like,

oh, I'm like... Part of it. It's not only that, it's like I'm getting smarter. I know how to talk about shit more and more. Truly, I'm like, oh, these are like two very smart, good, cool people. Do you know what I'm saying? Yes, of course. I have been on their podcast two times.

And I feel I cheated on you by going on their podcast without you. But guess what? I'm my own fucking person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I will go on any podcast that accepts me. And when they accepted me to be on their podcast the second time, I did say I accept the invitation and we went on and had a fabulous time. I listened to that episode.

It was fabulous. I had such a fabulous. And we just had a shot of whiskey with them. And guess what? It slammed me. Oh. What was the kind of whiskey that it was? It was a Taiwanese.

Oh, what's it called, Andrew? It aged. Kavalon. Kavalan. I was about to say Kavanaugh, which would have been bad. Had you said Kavanaugh? Had you said Kavanaugh, I would have stormed out. And I didn't. I don't want to talk about her. I don't want to talk about her. I don't want to talk about her at all.

Andrew brought me these boxed fruit. Well, he didn't bring me fruit in a plastic case. These fucking Asian pears in a styrofoam mesh. May I smell the fruit? Yes. Oh, you haven't had Asian pear before?

You've had Asian pear before. I would like to try one right now. Oh, well, you can't really. It's more of a thing that you cut up. It's like, you know. Or you can bite into it, but look. Oh, it's the most beautiful fruit. What is this wrapper?

It's the styrofoam mesh. Take a bite. Just take one bite into it, and then it'll be yours. What a gorgeous sound. What do we think? I love this pear. It's a great pear. It tastes as good as it looks.

It's a very big pear. Mm-hmm. And the taste is big. And the taste is big. Oh, it's very sweet. And it's gorgeous, natural sweetness. Cavalon. That's very sweet. And it's gorgeous, natural sweetness. Cavalon. That's the whiskey.

I mean, it's so nice of them to come bearing gifts. Can you even slay? Can you even slay? Can you even slay? Can you even slay? I'm already having a great time. I'm having such a good time. And can you believe we haven't even introduced them?

We haven't even introduced them. Can we say that the host of Yo! Is This Racist podcast on, yes, Ms. Earwolf Network. Ms. Earwolf Network. Ms. Earwolf Network. Yes, honey. Which is really the president of network

podcast networks. I'm telling you I had one shot. And you are slammed. It's psycho what it did to me. I can't wait for this wild ride I'm strapping myself in you can catch them on their amazing podcast Yo Is This Racist they're talking about race

talking to guests, taking calls it's truly the best, most entertaining sometimes the calls can be psycho and that's why we love the calls as a listener that's why I love the calls and they do make you think you can catch Brockmire I love the calls. As a listener, that's why I love the calls. And they do make you think. And they do make you think. You can catch Brockmire.

Yes. Coming up in April. And you can catch our guest sometimes popping out, our one guest sometimes popping out of a cab in Vancouver and us being like, Tony! And her being like, What? And then we all get drinks.

And then, Hold on. You just wait. And then, well, hold on. You just wait. Hold on, we said. And then you can count on Andrew to just bring you delicious sweet fruit. They are bringing it. And I'm so excited that this episode is happening. This is a true, gorgeous crossover moment. Please welcome to your ears,

Tawny Newsome and Andrew T. What's up? Thank you. I'm sorry, I cut you off. What were you going to sorry I cut you off what were you going to say I got so excited in the same way that I got excited when you shrieked my name in Vancouver because that's when I it was a period of five days

where I lost my phone to travel to another country like a Luddite and hearing two people I didn't know were there say my name in a friendly way made me feel seen and heard in a way that I had truly been in the dark. Oh, my God. And I had nothing.

And then you gave me a ray of light. So thank you. Thank you. Andrew, longest you've gone without your phone? Longest I've gone without my phone about, I guess, about like 18, 20 minutes. Okay. That's beautiful. And actually, I admire that.

Tops. You keep it with you in the at like the gym you just keep it strapped to you in a yoga class uh fully what i do is uh i've been playing poker on the exercise bike oh that's fun it's because i just i hate being on the exercise bike so much so my reward is playing online poker for bitcoins i think not in a not strictly legal right did i know this about you that you you do you possess bitcoin i i only got enough to play poker on this like not legal which is common it's like 0.01 yeah yeah yeah i got 300 worth of bitcoin which is like yeah a point i can tell it's exactly 0.158 And it doesn't matter. The point is...

That's beautiful. Yeah, I've been playing. How do you like that pair? I just have to say something. This pair is like a cake. They're really sweet. This pair is unrivaled. This pair has the top rating

from five stars. I will just say this, and we could even do this. Try it just a little chilled. Oh, my God. They're really good. Not cold, but just like a little, like, just out the fridge and then warm it up like a little more than you would a white wine. This is beautiful.

Have you tried this pair? My childhood bitch. Oh, my mom would cut it up for me. This is outrageous. But box fruit is mad Asian. Mad Asian. It's like you went to an H Mart and just came straight here from there. I mean, it hypothetically could be like I did go to the Korean store literally minutes right before I came here. And that's beautiful.

And why would we judge that? I mean, but I went the extra Chinese mile and I did tear the Korean stickers off the pears. Because you didn't, you wanted to. Because you needed a Chinese experience. Yeah. I wanted to go full Chinese for us. You wanted to Sin-o-fy these pears by taking off the Korean label. Yeah.

Okay. Not that cool in some ways. No, no, no. But like, okay, Andrew, I think you touched on this thing right before we hit record. Oh, yeah. this thing right before we hit record oh yeah and it's truly like it's truly it completes me in this way that you that we're talking about this kind of stuff because i do feel very unmoored as an asian now where it's just like i don't talk to i don't i just don't like interface with enough of any part of the culture anymore where i'm just like oh that's right i grew up with chilled asian

pear yeah well here's the other thing. Well, part of it is New York. Yes. Because Southern California, a lot more Asian people. Yes, yes. Sorry. A lot more... I get what you're saying. Middle-classy Asian people that, like, interact with the places

you are likely to be. Absolutely. And also, I will say though, the other part of it is that there's this weird thing of like, the, the,

yeah, is that in Southern California, there's like, kind of like, Pan-Asian-ness? Like, hence the Korean story. Like,

so there's not as much, it's flattened into one. so there's not as much Chinese-ness specifically. But, and like Mandarin-speaking Chinese-ness also, where you're like,

I don't know. Oh, wait. Okay. We're just getting full. I love it. It's adding a texture to the conversation. It's adding a crunch. It's a literal crunch. It's giving gravitas to an already beautiful.

This is literally top five best things I've ever eaten. Wow. They're really good. I'm not even kidding you this is so good it's beautiful I love how big it is they're the size of a softball

yeah like regulation I'm gonna crunch one too come on as dense as a softball even truly yeah you could straight up

oh my god it really is a softball you could kill someone you could kill someone it's heavy it's very heavy a lot of water sweet but not too sweet

sweet but not too sweet okay so while these two while these two non-yellows bite into their pears. This is a perfect way to let you guys have space. This conversation is just feed the non-Chinese people so that we are quiet and we listen with support. Our listeners that are like anti-me and pro-Bowen are like, this is fucking, they're jacking off right now. But you guys, please feel free to chime in.

Okay, so Andrew, and he was also getting, Andrew, you were jacking off right now. But do you guys, please feel free to chime in. Okay, so Andrew, and he was also getting, Andrew, you were also getting into your family. Oh, yes, yes, yes. And the family ilk or whatever it was. Yeah, so my last name is T,

which no one else besides the people related to specifically my dad are named because it's like a weird transliteration. Right. Because in the Chinese,

our name is D. D. Yeah. Wait, is that third tone or is that D, D? No, second tone.

Second tone, D. Okay. And it's, it was like a, like the brief window in the seventies where they decided D's were T's. Oh. So like even people with my same Chinese last name

would probably arrive at, I don't know, immigration in San Francisco today and be told they're like DI or DEE or something like that. Right, right, right. So, yeah. That brief window in the 70s where they said Mao Zedong. Yes, yes, yes.

And yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the same character, in fact. That's been... Instead of Mao Zedong? Yeah. Yeah. Wrongly transliterate or whatever. Whatever it is.

That doesn't matter. But the other thing is, so my family's like name is like basically like horse... It's like horse farmer kind of people. We were basically like shitty Mongolians. Like we would be the ones that didn't overthrow anyone. Got it. Which is honestly chiller. Yeah. Aren't you like the nicer Mongolians. We would be the ones that didn't overthrow anyone. Got it. Which is honestly chiller. Yeah, aren't you like

the nicer Mongolians? I think we're bad at it though. I think it's just bad at it. You want it to be evil. No, bad at being conquerors. I mean, there's a fucking... That is my vibe though. Like kind of mean,

but like really bad at it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a little better at it. I don't know. This needs to soak in a cocktail. This would add a little fusion. Do you know where I went last night? Tell us.

Sir. Oh, you did it. I love the housewives. How is it? And I had a lychee martini, and I'm thinking what we need is this pear martini. Oh, the lychee martinis are so fucking done. I think Asian pear martini.

Asian pear martini. Or just, again, one Asian pear and one shot of whiskey neat. That's the mixed drink. And then your Matt Rogers off to the races just- Just who cares? Just who cares? Well, you know what Tani did? What did Tani do?

She took her Asian whiskey and mixed it with some kombucha, and now she's got a fine bourbon drink to pair with her Asian pear. I'm an innovator. There was this kombucha sitting here on the counter. Yes. Is this a counter? This is a counter. It's a table. I'd call it a table, but if you want to call it a counter, I would never innovator. There was this kombucha sitting here on the counter. Is this a counter? This is a counter. I'd call it a table, but if you want to call it a counter, I would never take that.

We're sidled up to the culturistas' counter. We had a staggered ways of taking the drink because it was a small amount. It was the end of Andrew's bottle. It was the end of a bottle that someone brought back from Taiwan. We split it between five folks, and some people were badasses and took it like a shot. Hi, how are you? Yeah, you did. Our lovely full white friend Alex did.

Yes. And Alec, right? Full Jewish. Full Jewish. Full Jewish. I tried to sip it, but then I went one step further. I went one step towards soccer mom. I said, I need a spritzer.

I said, put some LaCroix in my white wine. I can't possibly drink liquor straight. The next best thing was this kombucha. And now it's like a little bourbon-y whiskey ginger on them. It tastes really good. I had it. You found the classiest route. Congratulations.

Nothing wrong with a chaser. I have to say, listen, nothing wrong with a chaser. No, not at all. Is there something wrong with, this beer is so juicy. It's so wet. I can't stop talking about it or thinking about it. It's just sticky. You guys may straight up need a roll of paper towels.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does that exist in this universe? With every bite, I'm sucking the juice. I don't need a paper towel. I'm really enjoying this. Matt's going to be fully hydrated. I feel like a hummingbird enjoying the nectar. This is unbelievable.

I swear to God, this is like dessert. I'll never eat ice cream again. I can't talk. I can't even describe to you how good it is. I mean, it fully is dessert in a lot of Chinese places. Is it? It is. Yeah.

Just a plate of fruit. Plate of fruit. Chilled fruit. I get it. Where have we been, Matthew? Where have we been? I don't know. I will say.

Thank you, Fred. Thank you for the napkins. So anyway, let me just. Last night at Sir. Yes. Tuesday night. Okay. What... Last night at Sir. Yes. Tuesday night. Okay. What kind of food is it?

Crazy. Yeah. Women in bandage dresses hanging from the ceiling. Sure. That's what the wrong side of LA does. Unreal. Yeah. I mean, they'll escape eventually.

But it's crazy. Like Tuesday night was absolutely crazy. It was a scene. And there was a wait for tables. I got there at 8 p.m. We had to wait 20 minutes with a reservation. Whoa. Yeah.

Wow. It was crazy. And then it got really more busy as it went on. And then I was like, okay, is this where they actually film Vanderpump Rules? Right. Is that where that happens? I think it is. I think it's at Pump.

Or is that Pump? No. It's Pump. Oh, but it is the other one. What's the other one? I have to be honest with you. I do not watch the show despite being a diehard

Real Housewives of Beverly Hills fan. I don't watch the show but I'm confused as to wherever they film Vanderpump Rules is that service staff actually the cast of that show? I think they are. I think it was at one point

and now they have to put in they have to put in enough shifts to technically qualify as still a waiter. Oh my God. Wow. You know what I mean? Do they get paid server's wage on top of scale? Yeah.

And how do their tips factor in? Honestly. And how? And how? Okay, and it was a fun time. What'd you eat? I had a lobster bisque

and an angel hair pasta dish. And what was the sauce? Like a tomato sauce Still lobster bisque Still lobster bisque Yeah Just double bisque Double bisque

That's gorgeous But I'm really I'm really kind of finding That in LA You can't go out to eat Without spending less than $35 Yeah Like it's crazy every time

Oh All my lunches are so expensive I'm gonna say this I know I've come in Extra Chinese hot today. Come on. Keep going. Bring it.

Bring it. But LA, if you get ethnic shit, you can eat better and you can eat for less than $35. Really? That's straight up why I live in Koreatown. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's beautiful. Just consider it.

Okay. Here's my food line. Come on. As long as we're talking New York, LA. We are. New York is way better if you're spending more than, let's adjust for inflation since I live there, last

$45 per person. If you're spending more than $45 per person, New York is way better. If you're spending less than $35, you know, I used to say $25, but yeah, if you're spending less than $35, LA is way better. Really? What about $35 to $45? That's the window.

That's the market. That's the sweet spot. Yes. That is where you sort of hit. Just go to strip malls and all that stuff. And as long as you don't think of the dinner as having to be part of

the entertainment portion of the night out, get a good meal for cheap and then go to a bar. Because it will be next to a car wash. Yeah, it will not be like fun or nice. It's not a scene. It's like good food. Because the places that are scenes are not good food.

Are not good food. Well, the strip mall aspect of LA culture is I think one of the most overwhelming things for me. Sure. Coming where I'm just like, there's so many. of LA culture is I think one of the most overwhelming things for me as a newcomer coming to where I'm just like there's so many and it seems like

there's cool stuff in all of them you got your dentists you got your Zanku's you got your Zanku dentists fucking immigration lawyers

and you want to go to all of them but that's why they have them in one spot I'm going to set my pair down

for now you've turned yours into a delightful little meteor you made a baseball out of a softball wow so my thing with pears when I'm eating pears is that I like to eat all the skin first and then you go for the rest

but then you're just holding on to you've got your grip on something sticky the whole rest of the way I do the same with a full zucchini. I just want to get that tough, flavorless skin down. Me too, me too. Hide out. What can I say?

I'm high risk. Okay, wait, I'm sorry. Tani, you eat the zucchini raw? No, I was just trying to participate. Oh, I was very concerned. Yeah, that would be bad. I have a way we can literally, truly toss Twny into participating.

Come on. And that's by asking the question. So on Lost Culture Recess, we ask all of our guests a question. That question is, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? This is the defining pop culture of your life that you can think back and think, oh, I am who I am probably because of my media diet at this crucial time, and what did that include? So I do think that it was trying to just replicate,

trying to only listen to music that my mother was listening to. Oh, okay. And not because it was all good, but because it was all things that my mother liked. Right. And I liked her. You wanted to relate mother liked. Right. And I liked her. You wanted to relate.

I wanted to relate. I liked her. I liked when she played things and I felt like a little grown up. So, and this is going to swing wild. So I need you to buckle up. I love that. That's how I do. It's not a safe ride.

This is a go-kart we're in. Okay. So let's start with a Stevie Wonder. Okay. Hotter than July, Songs in the Key of Life. Those are on heavy rotation in my home. Yes. We're doing good so far.

Let's talk about Anita Baker. Oh my god. Caught Up in the Rapture of You. I was like 12 years old wearing my mom's paisley suits. Uh huh. Caught up in the rapture of love. And we have a musician. It taught me to sing. It taught

me to close my nose when I sing. It taught me to close my eyes and I sing it taught me to close my eyes and never open them when I sing so those so we're doing okay then we're gonna swing wide and we're gonna go to Toto

Toto we're also gonna take a lot to get away all of it from you we're also gonna dive deep into the Eagles okay

and then we're also gonna give you a swipe of Trisha Yearwood so okay so this was my CD changer is what you're hearing and it the five CD changer yeah And then we're also going to give you a swipe of Trisha Yearwood. Okay, so thank you. This was my CD changer, is what you're hearing. Go on. The five CD changer.

Yeah, it actually was a six CD changer in which I probably put the Styx Greatest Hits album in there. Wow, I love that for you. Got to have number six. So, you know, it was my mother's wide swinging musical taste. One time when I was 13 years old, she went to a Parliament Funkadelic concert and she got it signed for me. I did not know who they were. But after that, you better believe I learned. You better believe I said, I want to know who these men

are who said, Tawny, go and get it, girl. I want to know who George Clinton is now. And then I found out. So... But yeah, but it did not... The other Clinton. The other, yes. George Clinton, baby. it did not make me popular

it did make my mother and I able to bond and I still hold some of those albums popular with your mom is still popular it's still popular

that's the saddest thing I've ever heard no I want to dive into one particular musical artist that you've mentioned and that musical artist that I'd like to discuss

is Trisha Yearwood yes please we started this in the hall and we have to continue we did because I sang particular musical artist that you've mentioned. And that musical artist that I'd like to discuss is Trisha Yearwood. Yes, please, please. We started this in the hall and we have to continue. We did because I sang a little bit of How Do I Live and then you threw at me. I pounced like a jaguar. You had said, when you sing How Do I Live, what is the canon for you?

Is it Leigh-Anne Rimes or is it Trisha Yearwood? And I unfortunately had to respond Leigh-Anne Rimes. Now, understand, I did grow up on Long Island where the pop sensibility was going to take over we really didn't know Trisha Yearwood although I will say this I first found out that Trisha

Yearwood had a version of that song at the Oscars that year because the three nominated songs were I think like Sunny Came Home by Sean Colvin. Oh, Sean Colvin. How Do I Live from Con Air, performed by Trisha Yearwood on the Oscars,

and the winner, My Heart Will Go On from Titanic, sung by, famously, Celine Dion. No, Con Air was at the same year as Titanic. It absolutely was. Really? Amazing year for cinema. It's an important thing. Wait, I don't believe any of this.

Why don't you look it up? Maybe I will. And my heart will go on one. Yes. But how do I live? I remember watching and I was like, oh,

that's not Leigh-Anne Rimes singing that song because Trisha Yearwood did it in Con Air and I do enjoy Trisha Yearwood much more now. She's got one song

called Georgia Rain that makes me cry. Yes. And one of my favorite songs of all time that really puts me through it is called This Is Me You're Talking To. Oh, yes, yes, yes. I resonate with this so hard. I also don't know what we were talking about this a little bit.

The division between the Leon Rimes heads and the Yearwood heads. I feel like media did that to us. War. They made us war. The Rhyme Babies. Was I right? I couldn't find it. It's did that to us. War. They made us war. The rhyme babies. Was I right? I couldn't find it. It's very hard to Google.

I truly can't. I can't. It's really not that hard, but. And you're drunk. Don't do it. I'm not drunk. Don't. Well, okay.

So, and what do you, because I truly have no. Sure. I'm someone who has no attachment to either of these women. Explain the divide. Explain the war. What is it?

Is it purely the locust? Is the locust the song? I believe it must have started with the song. But there was also now imagine little 12-year-old Tawny trying to be my 32-year-old mother. Imagine back then I feel like the Leigh-Anne Rimeses, the Dixie Chixes, and even the Shania's were more in a pop country. They were a younger vibe. That was the wave. And so the grown folks who were listening to the Clint Blacks

and the Garth Brooks and the George Straights and all these silky voices who were really considered the new traditionalists of country music, hearkening back to the Loretta Lynn's and the Dolly Parton's of it all. So in the 90s when we had these new traditionalists kind of reestablishing the genre as less poppy, less suburban rock in a cowboy hat, then all of a sudden you had these young poppy girls come up

and it was like, no, no, no, no, no. We're grabbing the Vince Gill. We're grabbing the silky voiced Vince Gill of it all. But you couldn't beat back the poppy girls. We couldn't. And Leon Rimes has a fantastic voice so I don't know why I was so mad at her

there were not only three nominees it was Titanic My Heart Will Go On Anastasia Journey to the Past Con Air How Do I Live Good Will Hunting Miss Misery

and Hercules Go the Distance so I was wrong about Sean Colvin I don't know why I said that but Titanic was the winner and Con Air do you know I feel like that whole era

though of music was like the posers versus the authenticity era. Hell yeah. Talk about it. That's that same conversation. That's the same thing people were saying about, I don't know, Nirvana and Pearl Jam. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nelly and 50 Cent.

Exactly. That was a little later. That was a little later. Who is Sisley? Nelly was the poser in that scenario? I believe so, yes, because the bandaid, he never had an injury. Which she didn't need to justify. He was unhurt.

But it's an aesthetic embellishment. It's okay. I also feel like 50 Cent, in his lyrics, it's like, okay, you really have fucked this way. Whereas Nelly, it's like, I don't know. Yeah we gather that. Like here's the thing here's the difference between 50 Cent and Nelly. You feel like 50 Cent could actually tell you specifically

what it tastes like when you give cunnilingus whereas Nelly's like when you go to a place with a lot of people it gets warm in the room. He's literally imagining. Shut up. He's imagining. He's like, take off your clothes

while you're all alone dancing from the mirror, I think. He's like, I think the way the temperature works is when people get in a room and it gets hotter.

That's good. Where I was like 50 cents like. That was very, yeah. 50 cents like. Detail oriented. I'm gonna fuck you over here because I have before.

This is this specific couch yeah I stared at the indentation of their palm prints on the couch exactly 50 Cent's like he's the Hemingway

of that absolutely 50 Cent was good vaguely bullshit I will say Candy Shop a womanizing homophobe yeah exactly Candy Shop still

quote unquote slaps I mean a lot of these songs slap you know a lot of these songs slap I took it to the Candy of these songs slap. I take it to the candy shop. Truly, if you go back and listen to any Shania Twain song, they all slap. They all slap. Unfortunately.

I'm gonna get you just a matter of fact. I'm gonna get you, don't you worry about that. You can bet your bottom dollar in time ain't gonna be mine. Just like I should I'll get you good beautiful okay

so you got a car that don't impress on me much honestly that don't impress on me much was incredible it's an incredible song that don't impress on me much the rap she does it's literally like one it's an incredible song that's what impressed on me much the rap oh yeah

the rap she does it's literally like one two get on the floor turn around look who's at the door it's a do-si-do rap get on the floor

turn around there were so many also do you know what is an underrated Shania bop which was later in her career but is a bop let's talk about it

keeping you forever and forever this is a b-side that's not a bop that's a ballad listen to it again okay Talk about it. Keeping you forever and for always. This is a B-side. That's not a bop. That's a ballad. Listen to it again. Okay.

Ballads are bops now. Ballads can be bops. Excuse me. I will always love you. It's not a bop. I will always love you is a bop that slaps. It's actually rule of culture number 11. I will always love you is a bop that slaps. I don't fully agree with that.

I was going to say, I feel like I've never seen anyone have to do something under so much duress as Bo and just had to do that. I was a hostage. I will always love you as a bop that slaps. And I will say this. I watched the Whitney documentary on a plane. Devastating.

Of course. It ends so sad We know Don't spoil it Have you seen it? I've actually seen it I loved it We've seen it play out

Getting more details about that can't be better Devastating Were we together the night that she died? We were at Skidmore Were we at Skidmore? It was senior year at Skidmore That's so weird And someone in the theater shouted,

Whitney Houston just died. Okay, can I tell you something? I wasn't there. I wasn't there because you were doing Marat Saad. I was doing Marat Saad at college

and the musical director of Marat Saad was like this gay guy. You were at, you were truly, can I say this? We've been through this so many times before

on this podcast. You were at your worst at that point. Yeah, I was. But he literally goes, hey guys, we're going to run through the show and do it for Whitney.

Oh! She don't want it. I remember just being like... And he was like... He turned over and looked at me and I was like, I mean, come on. I know who you're talking about. You think it's someone else, but it's someone.

We can hear that. These mics are quite sensitive. Don't cut it out, but replace it with the sound of me chomping on this pear. It kind of sounds the same. It sounds very similar. I have to, oh man, here you go, here you go, here you go. Fast, fast. Am I getting sloppy? Fast biting is the worst

that was that was incredible such a firm fruit it was so good there is no worse offender with eating loud than Bowen Yang

no Bowen Yang eats the loudest in the west in the west or east or east don't bring race into this

no no no but also I will make this racial but also Matt also, Matt, come to the East. Come to the East. If you want to hear loud eating. Holy God. What, like Silver Lake? Just kidding.

Wow. He's an ally boy. I do want to go to the East because I want Bowen to. I want to go to the East because I want Bowen to. He keeps really kind of sticking it in and breaking it off about this. What do you mean? I want to go to Shanghai Disneyland. We will go. kind of sticking it in and breaking it off about this. What do you mean? I want to go to Shanghai Disneyland. We will go.

That's where you want to go? Oh, yeah. He needs to go. It's cool. He needs to go to all the Disneys. That's his thing. All the Disneys. But also,

I think it's just outside of Shanghai. They have that like fake Paris that like is basically abandoned. Oh, no. That's so post-millennium Chinese that it's so bleak and sad. It might have been from the 90s or the 80s. No, it's like recent-ish.

It's like mid-2000s, I think. And it's abandoned? I think it's like people never moved in. And I don't know if it's all of Paris, but it's like a French sum bullshit because Chinese people are weirdly obsessed with France. With France, but also. But they can never execute it without it being so goddamn tacky.

It's the tackiest ass shit on earth. It's great. So this is like a haunted empty Paris with Chinese flavor. I mean, like if there was like a way to have cool Chinese cinema, it would be the setting for the best indie movie ever. Just like fake Paris that some communist decided they should build. God.

I disagree. I thought the Meg was a fantastic film. Well, there's the Meg. You do own it. I own it. I bought it for $19.99 American dollars.

Bonnie tried to make us watch this shit on New Year's Day. On New Year's Day, everyone was hungover. Andrew was coming down off of some cocktail. And did you in fact watch it? No. We did not. Everyone was coming down off of some cocktail. I was coming down from Molly. And did you, in fact, watch it? No.

We did not. Everyone shot me down. But I lobbied hard. Okay, now walk us through the mag just very briefly. What makes it a great film? What makes it a great film is I was hungover one day. I had scrolled through every option on the iTunes, Netflix, HBO, Hulu offerings of movies. I had either seen every single fucking thing on an airplane or had no desire to see certain things.

If we place this in time, this was very soon after The Meg came out. Yes, it was right after it came out. And I said, oh, you know what I want to watch? That silly, fun romp. Chinese movie. It's got fun old, you know, Marble Mouth, Jason Statham. It's got cute little children in it

that are smarter than their years. You know, this will be a fun thing. Rainn Wilson is in it. It's a romp with real cool CGI and a scary shark. I like the ocean. And these fun Chinese actors that they're trying to push on us. Yes. Just like a DJ.

Oh, yeah. What was her name? Who knows? Vanish off the face of the earth. Oh, Fun Bing Bing. Fun Bing Bing. Yeah. She was great. She straight up might be dead, guys? Oh, Fan Bing Bing. Fan Bing Bing. Yeah. She was great.

She straight up might be dead, guys. Oh, no. I hope she's okay. She's like fully like disappeared by the government in a way that's like, who knows? That is very scary. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's bad. I had it set in my heart and my mind that I needed to see the Meg and no other film

would do because I had scrolled to the end of Netflix. And when I finally convinced my husband I said this is what we're going to rent he was like okay and I went to rent it and you could only buy it only buy it and I said I'm not going through this mental hell again this is our purgatory and we have to do this now so we own the Meg the only other films we

own are Paddington 2 and LA Story I believe I hear good things about Paddington, too. Yeah. I've heard it's great. It was fun. We rented it when my nephew was in town.

It was a romp. So you've made purchases after browsing fatigue. Yes, exactly. And it was a $20 shark film that I have now watched twice, and I try to put my friends through whenever possible. I think you were figuring your New Year's Day party is a big gathering for your house, and if we're amortizing it by eyeballs, making everyone at that party watch it

is the only way you're ever going to come close to recouping. Exactly. Yeah. I was trying to get my money back. It's like movie-nomics. Man, Andrew, the way you can reason through these things is truly beautiful. Okay, should we move on to Andrew with the culture question? I think we should, although I could talk about

Miss Trisha for a long time. We can bounce back and forth. And I do want to say, I just want to tell all the Culturistas listeners that there are a couple live performances of This Is Me You're Talking To and Trisha gives you a fucking performance, especially the performance which is just acoustic with a guitar. She gives you everything you need. It's a beautiful song. I listened to it in some vulnerable times after my relish ended and whoa,, baby It says something very specific lyrically and we love that Oh Speaking of relationship trisha songs everyone also needs to listen to where your road leads that she sings with her now husband Garth Brooks

That is a real moment With some live versions of it. Yes, he comes out of like a mist filled orchestra section at the whatever Staple Center or wherever it is also, you gotta listen to George Oran people because there's a line at the end Staples Center or wherever it is. Also, you gotta listen to Georgia Rain, people, because there's a line at the end where she's like seeing a lover

after many years that she hasn't seen and she goes, looks like you made yourself a real good life. What else can I say? The Georgia Rain on a Jasper County clay

It's so good. Yeah. Also listen to Walk Away Joe. That boy's just a walk away Joe Born to be a leaver, tell you from the word go Destined to deceive her, he's her own kind of paradise He's gonna make it in a matter of time that boy's just a walk away

Joe I had to get in on one you guys I'm sorry I love it when both of you guys sing maybe we need a show that was euphoric for me I just took that in speaking of we'll do another plug

Tawny's other podcast The Super Group where she makes songs with comedians. We do. We make bops. Is out, I believe, for free now? Yes, you can watch it for free. Oh, because it was. Was it behind a paywall?

It was behind a paywall, yeah. You know what I'm realizing? The last two times I've seen you have been miracle times that I've just run into you. Yes. Because the time before, we ran into her at the iconic moment where we went, Tawny?

In Vancouver. Before that was when I did Paul F. Tompkins' Spontaneanation. Oh, that's a success. And I didn't know that Tawny traveled

with the show, but she was improvising at the Bell House and I was like, who's here? And they said Tawny and it was such a fun show. I drive the bus.

You do not. There's no bus? Can you imagine Paulus Hopkins on a bus? Honestly, yeah. He's so old-timey. Disagree. I think it's hard to imagine him on a bus. No, Searsucker wrinkles too hard for him to sit for that long.

Are you kidding me? He's not sitting on the bus in Searsucker. What do you think he travels in? Pajamas, wet pants. He travels in full. I've been to his home and I've only ever seen him with a slight unbuttoned collar. Okay, see, that's some Elizabeth Holmes

shit. Like, he's wearing a turtleneck inside. I literally, when I was out getting breakfast with Greta Teitelman, I saw Paul F. Tompkins and I went up to him and I said, Paul, hey, and it wasn't him. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry, you just look exactly like Paul F. Tompkins. And he was like, who? And I was like, I'm sorry you just look exactly like Paul F. Tompkins and he was like who

and I was like I'm sorry but if you literally look like Paul F. Tompkins yeah okay and you live in LA it's probably a choice to look like Paul F. Tompkins you know what I mean down to the dapperness and all that it was him I could see Paul driving

a bus in a costume before I could see him sitting on a bus. That's true. He could play a character. He could play Miss Frizzle's boyfriend. Who? From Magic School Bus. Oh, yes.

Yeah. But no, but Paul's not a bus. Paul is a penny farthing. That's the deal. But a penny farthing bus. Two big front wheels. Yes, two big front wheels. Beautiful, beautiful.

We asked the question andrew t what was the culture that made you say culture was for me the same question as tony but this time for you this is um gonna be wrong because i can't be wrong i went it can listen uh i went ahead and uh to prepare for this was listening to when you guys had andy beckerman and naomi a carrigan two lovely. And you guys asked them the question, what's the culture that, you know, and they're a couple, so maybe that was more, anyway, but you asked

them what was the culture that sort of binds you together. Oh! We had already had Naomi on. Oh, got it, got it, I see, I see. But do you want to answer this question with you and Tani? So that's why I was trying to think of the culture that binds Tani and I together. Okay, we'll answer that. We're a couple. We'll answer that and then answer it for yourself if you have a different answer.

You know what? Honestly, the actual pop culture thing that binds us together might genuinely be Paul F. Tompkins. Wow. I mean, maybe. I think it kind of is. That's beautiful. Because we have very little overlapping in music taste. Not that we hate it.

It's just like, oh, it's not as much my thing. Sure, sure, sure. And kind of the same with movies. I don't even know what you like. Except for the Meg, of course. But like, you know, I watch all those like Marvel movies and whatnot and you famously have only watched one and a half of them. I'm so famous for not knowing shit about them.

But yeah, but the other thing is camping, I think Yeah We'd be outside We were like you know Really good like podcast friends And then Tawny

It was during the last meteor shower So it was during the last meteor shower Perseids in August Tawny and her husband are really amazing Like outdoors people. Oh. And so she organized a little trip that I went on and I kind of rekindled. Then I went, and since then I've bought my own tent.

I got a knife, a bunch of boots. You got a knife? I got a knife. You got a good knife. A good knife. This is straight up fucking. Oh, wait. Matt is making.

I don't know about this. You don't enjoy it. I'm anti-weapon. Well, it's a tool. It's a tool. It's for cutting your giant Asian pear. Oh. And what do we think about that?

Well, look at me already trucking along. Having already consumed this entire pear. I needed no knife. I needed no knife. It's like the mouth knives you have. If I want to cut something. Not like from my hand. If I want to cut something honey,

I'll buy a scissor. Okay, so this is fast. Okay, as two people, I would say Matt and I are very outdoor averse. Not that we have an aversion to the outdoors, but it would never occur to us to go camping. I wouldn't rather be out there. Sure.

So talk through this. Talk through the appeal of both of these. Well, so I was a like boy scout but kind of under duress and like i hated it and like everyone like i just like didn't like being there and instead of um doing my senior project that were the eagle project yeah which takes a year i like fully just did lsd instead i was just like fuck this i'm dropping out of boy scouts and literally i'm gonna to do, every second that I would otherwise have been in Boy Scouts, I'm going to be

doing drugs. You were a teen doing LSD? Yeah, I was like 15 the first time. What's your relationship with it now? I haven't done it in a long time, but I'm not against it. We're like new sort of, I mean, we haven't done it. I've done it twice. I did it two weeks ago. Oh, what'd you think? Two weeks ago was a little bit

more up and down than it was the first time I did it. weeks ago. Oh, what'd you think? Two weeks ago. Two weeks ago was a little bit, was a little bit more up and down than it was the first time I did it. Do you think that it was too much or just like not fun? No, it was an environment thing. It was raining outside and we were cooped up in a house. And I would have liked to have the option

to roam about. You know what I mean? And then like we could, but it was just like, I don't know. Yeah. So I have a really different and I think not typical association with drugs like that because I was doing it a lot as a teenager. Right. And that means I was doing it kind of a lot like by myself and often in my room and shit like that. Holy shit.

And this is going to, I know this is bonkers, the thing I'm about to say next, but it's like, I would do, I did a lot of acid because I actually, in my like bad logic at the time, was like, oh, this is like the least,

I'm least likely to get caught doing this because it has very little physical paraphernalia. It's a little tiny piece of paper. So my logic was just like, well, they're not going to find even a lighter or anything. Whereas other dummies have a handle of vodka stuffed under their bed.

I'm just going to do LSD all the time. So I would like the most cliche shit. Just listen to the Velvet Underground and Beyond Acid and look at pop art and watch a little bit of TV, but not much. much yeah truly bonkers shit by myself so i like being cooped up when i'm on psychedelics but it's also i was like in a very

comfortable place and i i still kind of maintain that like all my friends like to like do mushrooms and walk around and i'm like last time i did mushrooms i literally listened to comedy like stand up on Spotify just like and it just started I was just like I like him as a person but like Anthony Jeselnik's stand up isn't like exactly my speed yeah but that's what you were listening to

it was so funny I was just like I love this shit it's fucking incredible and it was like an old album that was you know that kind of the was dated and was like dated you know yeah problematic in many ways i'm sure i don't remember it because i was on drugs well you this dovetails with you actually camping because during the pc the whole point of it is that the sky turns into a laser show at midnight he straight up

at 8pm was like I don't give a fuck about them rocks I'm going to bed and he went to bed both nights I was like two stoned and I was just like

I'm going to bed and everyone was like are you sure and I was like yeah yeah I'll see you guys in the morning I built like a viewing pad

I made these cushioned like laying I had all these outdoor pillows I wanted this bohemian I wanted my like Coachella I wanted like myemian. I wanted my like Coachella. I wanted like my mountainous outdoor looking at the meteors,

smoking weed, Coachella. There's nothing more Coachella than someone being too fucked up to be, to keep hanging out. There you go. To stay for the main event. Yeah. I love that about you.

You're a good camper. Cause you don't like, you're not like, what are we doing now? Or what's next? Or when's dinner? Like you just do whatever the fuck, which is the best.

Okay. But like, I can't get past just like the, the survivalist aspect of it. And you were doing no more. Is that, that's not the right word, but like the,

like just like the, the, the, like the, there's a difficulty in a lot of basic functions. Yes. I don't like being uncomfortable. Well,

so for what it's worth, first of all, if you go with Tani and, uh, does it say Nate, her husband? Does Nate, Nate doesn't like, does he like having his name mentioned on podcasts? He doesn't have a choice at this point. Twny and Nate, her husband. Nate doesn't like. Does he like having his name mentioned on podcasts?

He doesn't have a choice at this point. Tawny and Nate. His name is Nate. Look at him. They have like such a comfortable setup. They're like the people that have like five of everything. So you can't even forget something. Yeah, we got it.

And we went to a, that campsite was as easy as it gets. Yeah, instead of, it's not like a KOA where you've got like kids and water slides and shit, but it is a very comfortable, it's car camping,

so you're bringing all your stuff in your car. Oh, I see. You're right there. And like we make a full, huge meal. We don't go like, oh, we're outdoors, everyone eat a hot dog. Oh, the food was so good so we made like very extravagant

food because that's part of like you want to sit and just like eat and be what's the meal oh we did a um so i did collard greens i always do famously always do collard greens in the wilds um what else was in that meal we also did a huge thanksgiving camp out so i'm confused i missed that one uh let's see there was uh the first night really Literally, we're so hungry right now. The first night, oh, yeah, you guys have been here for like a full union work day, right?

We've been sitting at this table for four days. Oh my God, you look great. Nate's friend, whose name escapes me right now, had brought like all this crazy, carne asada.

So we had tacos the first night and then there was amazing sausages and burgers. We do a lot of braised things. We usually do a reduced braised mushrooms thing, which you can either put over the meat or for the vegetarians. It's kind of an entree on its own. The big king oyster mushrooms from the H Mart. Thank you, pears.

Thank you, pears. Thank you, pears. I love you, pears. But yeah, I will say, okay, so for people who are like, the outdoors isn't for me. And maybe it truly isn't. But if you have the right gear, and it does take a little bit of shuffling. I definitely went through phases where I like had the wrong things.

And I was like, oh, I don't like sitting in these trash chairs just because it had a cup holder. I thought I would buy it, you know. But what I always say about camping and like I also like to do backpacking where you're carrying everything and you really can get away from people. The most beautiful things to see on this planet, either they cost one of two things, either a ton of money or a ton of effort. And I don't have the first thing. So I would rather spend as much effort like hiking to a thing or like bringing all my food in weird containers and pitching a tent in order to see

like these beautiful vistas or go to the top of certain mountains that other people can only get to with a helicopter. I am interested in seeing beautiful things. However, I would like to ask you about another element of the wilderness. Don't say bears. No, I'm not going to say bears. However, I am going to say coyotes. What?

Wolves. Foxes. So just to illustrate. Panthers. Panthers. Panthers are out there. Just to illustrate how like fully. Title of app.

Panthers are out there. Fully safe this campsite is. The first night we forgot to put away like half of our food. Food. Very stoned. It was a full steak sitting out. It was untouched. Not even raccoons.

Yeah, literally not even raccoons. I will say that one time camping at Big Sur I did see a raccoon steal two not one but two bags of family sized fondions

from some pros next to me I'm not scared of a raccoon because I feel like I'd shush it away a coyote you will not shush

a raccoon you think you will shush a raccoon a raccoon is so bold a raccoon gives no fucks about you a raccoon can practically talk

their thumbs are so opposable they almost have speech a raccoon will stay bold. A raccoon gives no fucks about you. A raccoon can practically talk. Their thumbs are so opposable, they almost have speech. A raccoon will stay in your face. He will climb on a picnic table. You just have to stand and wait for him to go away. It's raccoon's world. You're just living in it. Can I tell you what I happened upon the other day? I went for a hike, Griffith Park hike.

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we're looking at you guys floating in outer space on the Amazing space backdrop. So there is an element of just like mysticism. Like they're just floating brains in outer space. That's where we are. I feel relatively grounded, but you talk about this hawk. Speaking of floating. All right, so you saw a hawk.

This hawk was flying in midair. I've never seen anything like this. Hawks can just stay in one spot in the air without even floating its wings. It's like a drone. They are in fact like a kite. They are the original drone. And you know what happens on hikes. Many people will bring

their dogs with them. It was clear to me that the hawks were trying to eat the dogs. And I was like, I said to Greta, it was me, Greta, and Blair, and Abe. And I said to Greta, and Blair, and Abe, I was like, I said to Greta, I said to Greta, it was me, Greta, and Blair, and Abe. And I said to Greta and Blair and Abe, I was like, have you ever seen a hawk attack a dog?

And they had to report to me that yes, they had seen this. And I said, did the dog make it? And they had to report to me that no, the dog, in fact, did not make it. It was a Shih Tzu that stood no chance against a hawk. And then I said, well, that hawk's not gonna attack our dogs, of which we had two. How big were they? Small. And I hawk's not gonna attack our dogs of which we had two how big were

they small yeah and i said they want to attack our dogs and they said we don't know that and at which point in time they picked up their dog held them close to their chest and that was the only way they could be confident knowing that the hawk's not gonna attack kill and eat our dogs no there's something about this story the two dogs are named are named Bernie and Tiny and they live up to their names. Bernie and that he's like a Bernie Sanders older dog and Tiny and that he's very small. I voted for that first dog. For Tiny.

You voted for Tiny. Who was I supposed to vote for? We don't know. It's fine. Not Beto. Maybe Beto. I thought this was just a cutesy thing but maybe it's real. You can get dog sweaters that have little spikes on the back. And at first I thought it was like, oh, that's like a punk.

Ha ha ha. But now I'm like, I actually think that's a hawk. It's also anti-coyote. When I was a child, I lived in the country. This is also probably why I don't have such an aversion to camping because I basically grew up camping. My life was camping. I grew up camping. My life was camping. I grew up outside. But our neighbor

had a bunch of sheep and they would put a similar thing, probably not as expensive or cute, but like a spiky kind of It looks cute. Like a spiky jacket

or like a shawl on some of the baby lambs. It's basically just a bunch of spikes on it. It's like a leather jacket, but right. But for function. For dogs.

Yeah, a functional leather jacket, like Fonzie But for function. For dogs. Yeah, a functional leather jacket. Like Fonzie. Yeah. Like if Fonzie had a natural predator. Yes. The Hawks. Wait, Andrew, where did you grow up? Michigan.

Michigan. Great. And the parents were what? First gen? Just putting you through? It's wild that I still don't know which is which. They immigrated. So I had to figure this out. I had to define for myself once and for all't know which is which. They immigrated. So I had to like figure this out.

I had to like define for myself once and for all. First generation is them. They're the first immigrant generation. I'm second generation. I am second. Got it. Yes. It's ridiculous that I don't know that.

It's crazy that I didn't know this until very recently. Yeah, because I always thought it was like the first generation that is born here. That's what I thought. I think the formal technically like the agreed upon definition is the first two emigrate. No, that makes sense. I, yeah, my parents met in Michigan in, I mean, back of the envelope had to be the 70s. Or maybe the late 60s, I guess. I don't know.

They don't say. Pre, pre, there was this whole like thing where my parents like couldn't like there was a time in China where you could not move out so they are they Taiwanese well

no no you said shitty horse people oh yeah so that was that's my dad's family they were on the losing

I won't say wrong side no wrong side losing side of the Chinese Civil War so they my dad grew up in Taiwan. Got it. But he was, I only found this out like a couple years ago. He was like straight up a

refugee for like the, my youngest and worst aunt was born in a fucking refugee camp on like the beaches of Taiwan. Like was just like, yeah this is where I'm being born. She went on to marry a white guy who's really racist so

I mean if you listen to our show that's his name is famously white uncle Michael that's probably why she married him because she's like beats a refugee camp yeah he doesn't but I hear I understand how you could think that yeah okay so your dad basically so he grew up in Taipei

and then my mom sort of similar I don't know all the the etymology of her chaos but that's gorgeous he she grew up she was born outside of hong kong but like grew up in hong kong in like so my paternal grandfather maternal grandfather who i've never met uh and he did he did die a couple years ago I think straight up used like World War II to just be like start a new family so he just like disappeared

abandoned my grandma with like five kids and so my grandma was a single mom in the 50s in fucking Hong Kong with five kids which is it's like in the mood for love but the most depressing version

of that shit on earth. So yeah. And so both my parents met in Michigan and they were just like, fuck it. We're like the only 10 Chinese people here. So someone's got to pair off eventually. So they love each other about that much. I don't know what to say. It's like very immigrant where they know they love each other it's a beautiful story well i don't know what to say it's like very immigrant where they're like they kind of tolerate each other and like whatever

still together hard to imagine that yeah but yeah but hard to imagine them like liking each other at any point yeah but who knows whatever who knows who knows it's that they won't tell me so right it's that thing where it was like you grow up with these Chinese parents who like have their weird things about showing affection to each other or to you in ways that they withhold that. Yeah. But then you see that sort of being normal in other Chinese immigrant families. Yes. And so you think that's normal. Yeah.

But it's not. Yeah, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. God forbid. Is that how your parents were? Yeah. Like I've seen them kiss maybe once oh wow that's not true absolutely oh yeah i think zero times for my my parents uh stopped sleeping in the same room i think when i was like eight

and like and i think it was only because we moved to a house where that was an option. Sure. And it's the same. And I feel like you sort of are at peace with it as a child of that kind of marriage because you're just like, well. Yeah. It's different. Yeah. It's truly like the circumstances are wild and like they probably had to only think in practical terms rather than like have to think of a a man who emotionally like someone

a partner who can emotionally fulfill them in whatever ways oh god yeah I mean our and I think all of my grandparents had arranged marriages

yeah my grandma my dad's side for sure not my maternal side but yeah but crazy so it's like for them they're like

yeah we at least got a choice of some kind. Wow. Romantic. Um, wow. Gorgeous.

Okay. Can I say something that I've been thinking about? Fonzie's natural predator is a hawk. Was the time's up movement. Okay. Explain this. Because he was a misogynist. Yeah. And he was walking misogynist. Yeah.

And he was walking about being the Fonz. As far as we know, Henry Winkler is fine. He seems fine. Well, actually, famously, Henry Winkler and the Fonz are two different people. It's actually real culture number 99. Famously, Henry Winkler and the Fonz are two different people. Andrew was just making sure that we weren't conflating.

No, no, no. Yeah, I just wanted to, for the listeners. famously Henry Winkler and the Fonz are two different people. Andrew was just making sure that we weren't conflating. No, no, no. Yeah, I just wanted to, for the listeners. Tanya and I are, of course, well-versed in all the rules of culture. Yes, we know them all. Yes.

I would never talk down to my listeners and assume they didn't know that famously Henry Winkler and the Fonz were two different people. And I will say that it's actually rule of culture number 101. The Fonz's natural predator was the Time's Up movement. Because had we been dealing with the natural predator was the Time's Up movement. Because had we been dealing with the Fonz

in the Time's Up era, that show would have been shut down. Happy Days are here again. Happy Days are never more. I thought you were proposing a maybe like a spec reboot of Happy Days. Honestly, I'm going to write the spec script of Happy Days where the Fonz tries it and someone

says, no. You know what? No means no, Fonz. And he says, hey, what do you mean? That's what he famously would say. And that's the thing that makes it to Twitter. Exactly. It's like the Snooki getting punched in the face. That's the thing.

Right. We never would have been consuming that as entertainment nowadays. No. Now, I do think Tani and Andrew do know all the rules of culture. Mm-hmm. What's your favorite rule? Oh, our favorite rule is probably number 134. Yes, therefore.

You like that one? Or are you like, okay. Or 137 is good, too. Oh, it's played out. Okay. 134 probably. Tani says this every time we say it. Okay, say it together at the same time

yeah it's Asian pears go in pears yes that is wrong rule number 134

is famously Denise Richards is canon no so close I think we I think we boot it and we do Asian pears come in pears Famously, Denise Richards is canon. No, so close. I think we boot it and we do Asian pears come in pairs. I'm mixed up. No, that's just, it's 133.

Oh, you're right. No, no, I get why. Can I say something? These Asian pears came in a trio, so. You guys ate them in pairs. That's true. Pair your knuckleheads. Pair your knuckleheads. Eating them.

These are separate. What are some other Asian foods that deserve to be popularized? What do you think about the pineapple cake? Oh, I don't think I've had that. Oh, the tartlet? The egg custard? No, no, no. The pineapple cake.

It's like a brick of dense pineapple. Oh, I know what you're talking about. It's like a Fig Newton, but slightly bigger. And you have it at Dim Sum. No, no, no. That's like one of the festival's food. Oh, okay. Never mind.

Doesn't matter. Do you know what I've been enjoying lately? Yes. No one drag me. Uh-oh. Poke. Oh, sure. Oh, sure.

Why would we drag you? No, that's the Hong Kong pineapple bun that's different. I'll look it up. Oh, sure. Why would we drag you? No, that's the Hong Kong pineapple bun that's different. I'll look it up. Oh, wait, this thing. Yeah, yeah, those bad boys. Fig Newton-y thing. It's like a Fig Newton, but it's like Fig Newton with pineapple in it. I love it.

And I would just say they're kind of like maybe not quite sweet enough for a Western palate, but I actually think crushed up in like a ice cream or something a soft serve would be perfect for the Los Angeles area now this the internet says that this is a Taiwanese treat would you concur? that explains why

I got that info from an internet site called the walks of life so I don't know I wish we didn't do I actually put a pin in that this may come up called The Walks of Life. So I don't know. I wish we didn't do. I don't know. This is, I actually say, put a pin in that. This may come up

in a one minute segment later. It doesn't matter. In Epcot, in Epcot, there is a China pavilion. Yes. And the cocktail, so when you do,

when you do drinking around the world at Epcot, it's, it is custom in Epcot, it is the culture of Epcot, to drink one cocktail from each pavilion so that by the time you get around, you've had 11. That's not continents or-

No, no, countries. But just 11? Yeah, they pick. 11 emblematic countries of the world. Let's see if I can name them in order. Ready? Mexico, Norway. but just 11 yeah they pick 11 emblematic countries of the world let's see if I can name them in order Mexico Norway

China then I believe comes then it gets fuzzy for me I know there's a Morocco I know there's a France I know there's an England I know there's a United States pavilion I know there's a Japan

there's a Canada States pavilion. I know there's a Japan. There's a Canada. There is. Canada made it? I said France. Yeah, Canada has a pavilion. Why? You just drink CC all day? You just drink Canadian Club whiskey?

Literally, I think what I had was like a Labatt blue. Get out of fucking town. But anyway, the Chinese pavilion. When you guys were in Canada, did you notice that there are other colors of Labatt? Labatt? No, I didn't know that. This might be a... We were in Vancouver, though.

It's a little more... So when I grew up in Michigan, the drinking age in Canada is 19, so we would drive across the... Actually, we were in the one place where you can drive down to go to Canada. Down? Oh, because it's the geometry.

Michigan is like this, and there's a little sliver of Canada under the thumb, I guess, technically. Anyways, there's like Labatt green and shit. Oh, that's insane. I don't know what flavors they are. I assume apple? Oh, it's flavor. See, green seems like non-alcoholic to me. It might be.

It very well might be. Canadian listeners, hack into the geocaching. I don't know. At the China Pavilion. Yes. What they offer as a cocktail there is cantaloupe juice with vodka.

No, thank you. Is that a thing? No, thank you. It's too sweet. Chinese people like fruit. Improbable you. Is that a thing? No, thank you. It's too sweet. Chinese people like improbable juices. I see. Thank you, we've been improbable juices.

That's also a fun run up for I love that, improbable juices. You can go to the Chinese store, the 99 Ranch out in the San Gabriel Valley, you can get a pint of kiwi juice see that sounds lovely it's too it's it's weirdly too sweet and too acidic at the same time but like it's like oh that's a lot it's like probably like i don't like an aggressive juice it's real

aggressive okay but going back to the cantaloupe thing yeah yeah not at all emblematic of chinese yeah but i it was weird i didn't know what I was expecting there, but I was like, at Mexico, I had had, obviously, I had like a margarita. And then in Norway, I had like a Carlsberg like lager,

like a nice European beer. And then I went to the China Pavilion and I really don't know what I was expecting. I guess like. It actually sounds like that was the China Pavilion Pavilion. So it's like a shitty Chinese restaurant. Oh. Pavilion. But what would you's like a shitty Chinese restaurant. Oh.

Pavilion. But what would you think it would be like? Like a Mai Tai? Like a lychee martini. Maybe. Like truly. Plum wine? If it's palatable for people.

You know what? I think that they might have offered plum wine, but I had already drank two different kinds of liquor, and so I was like, am I really going to fuck myself this way? So plum wine, you can feel your teeth dissolving. It's so sweet. I've had plum wine. It's unreal how sweet it is.

You know, I believe that's what they served at Cottage. Remember we used to go to Cottage? Oh, that was disgusting. We used to go to this place. It was one of the only places. That didn't card. Sorry, that didn't card in New York. And we would go for it when we were younger in college.

Oh, sure. And it was like. Was that, wait, where? That was in Bowery? It was in Bowery. Yes. No, no, no, no, no. It was in Irving Place.

Oh, oh, oh. And if you spent. I think it's someplace different. If you bought, like, more than an entree, more than $y. No, no, no. It was in Irving Place. And if you spent... If you bought more than an entree, more than $8.99, right? They let you drink all the wine you could drink. So I had my birthday there. Okay. It was the same business model

at the one by Columbia. It was the exact same shit. So much goddamn wine. They did not ever ask for identification. I believe it was my 20th birthday. We went there and went to fucking town. I'm significantly older than you guys. They used to not card a decibel

when I was in undergrad. That Japanese place on 10th and 2nd. When did you live in New York? 98 through 2009. Oh, okay. I through 2009. Nice. Oh, okay. 11 years straight. I put in a while.

But yeah. I didn't know you were that much older than us. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, dog. You're looking fucking right. He's cryogenically frozen. You look exactly right. When I was a child trying to drink underage,

we went into San Francisco, and we went to a drag queen bar called Asia SF. It must be gone now, but it was so delightful and they did not card you, but you could not talk during the performances. Oh, I love that. They were basically like, you better fucking behave and we'll let you little assholes get fucked up.

But like, you will watch. You will watch us sing. That's great. You will watch us do these numbers. You will watch us sing. And it was great and you could eat like very overpriced, terrible chicken wings and just like drink. Like I, at the time we were all trying to drink Cosmos because, because of sex in the city.

I never even watched sex in the city. I just overheard my girlfriends talking about it. And I was like, I guess I want the pink thing. That's hard to hold. It was a part of the culture. What is a Cosmo? It's a pink martini.

It's a stupid glass. It's a vodka martini with like, I think this is like cranberry juice one of the worst straight guy things is I realize I only know it as a punchline from the worst people

on earth truly Cosmos no association of sex in the city though no no because of that because of that

yeah that snuck into the lexicon also by the way I watched the sex in the city in the movie the sex in the city movie on the plane. First one. The movie is pretty good.

It's fine. I'll tell you what is bad about it. Mr. Big, as a character, is psychotically unrealistic. Sure. That man does not exist on this planet. The things he does in that movie don't make any fucking sense. The wedding doesn't make any sense. No, that he just leaves her at the altar

at her wedding at the New York Public Library. Are you fucking kidding? And then he's like, what am I doing? We have to go back. And then she's like, she hits him with the... I knew you would do this! I knew! And I was like, okay, so you... I knew you... No, let me do it. I knew you affiliated!

And then don't they go to Mexico and she shames Miranda for not waxing? And I was like, what, so you... No, let me do it. I mean, you affiliated. And then don't they go to Mexico and she shames Miranda for not waxing? And I was like, what is the message? Samantha shames Miranda for not waxing. What is the message? And then Miranda completely overreacts. And she's like, what? So, like, I made my husband cheat on me because I don't care?

And it was just like these women were acting insane. But as insane as they were acting, Mr. Big as a character is the most unrealistic piece of shit. And also... Actually, now I know. I don't think so were acting, Mr. Big as a character is the most unrealistic piece of shit. And also, actually, now I know. I don't think so. Oh. I had never seen any of the Sex and the City television program.

So when I saw the movie, I was like, why do I care about any of these people? That was a false way to do it. But it was a nice way to learn about Jennifer Hudson. Oh, my God. She's truly god-awful in that movie, I'll tell you. She is bad. Wait, it was after Dreamgirls. It was after Dreamgirls. It was after. It was truly God awful in that movie. I'll tell you. She is bad. Wait, it was after Dreamgirls.

It was after. It was after. It was like an easy go for her to get. But it was like a way to see her in another light. Totally. As an assistant. Her agent stood well. Why'd you move to New York?

To fall in love. Ugh. Um, now I have to ask Andrew one thing. Just because I'm fresh off of this first tattoo. I'm, I'm, I'm truly. I just have one. Oh. And, and I'm fresh off of this first tattoo I'm where are yours

I just have one and and I'm truly just like waiting for the parental reaction to this not that it like matters oh yeah my

how was yours my the only one I felt bad about was my grandpa was like kinda like you know bummed about it

like visibly bummed about it oh damn that was the only one i mean look i have a whatever relationship with my parents as it is so i was just like that was like whatever deal with it kind of kind of i kind of liked the deal with it of it yeah that's where i'm at but it was it was fine they're they're very cool about it um but my grandpa was and my grandpa ultimately like was is i mean he passed away but he was fine with it yeah i mean you know i don't know i don't just say but that was the only moment where i was

and my grandma was cool with it god but the one thing i will say is that mine mine is like old old old and it's still like kind of bumpy and whatnot oh really my skin does not take well to just it's trying to reject it still. It still, yeah. It still hates it. Scatting away. Yours looks good, though. Yours looks cool.

It's a little, I mean, like, they didn't fully align the diagonals, which I kind of like. I kind of like that it's kind of imperfect. It looks great. Yeah, I was noticing that it looked a little rugged on the bottom. Sure. But that's just, you know...

Rugged on the bottom. The Bowen-Yen story. Ooh, baby, baby. Baby. Wow. What were we talking about? Cosmos.. Rugged on the bottom. The Bowen Heading story. Ooh, baby, baby. Baby. Wow. What were we talking about? Cosmos. Oh, Sex and the City.

We don't need to, but go ahead. I have nothing else to say. I have nothing else to say, but I am just reminding Matt that that's what I don't think Sony will be. Thank you for the reminder. I didn't forget, but thank you. Good, good, good.

Speaking of that, I think it probably is time to move on to our segment, which is called I Don't Think So Honey, which is our segment in which we take one minute of time to rant against something in culture that, you know what, we actually hate and we need to talk about. And in bringing up the Sex and the City movie and the plot points wherein they're in, I have my I Don't Think So, Honey. Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think so, honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so, honey. The whole idea that Sex and the City

ends with Carrie getting with Big because Big is emotionally abusive. Oh. Big is the emblem of sublimating yourself to a man. It is crazy that Sarah Jessica Parker, as Carrie Bradshaw, is this feminist icon. And then she would return to a man who publicly humiliates her like not just once. Also, he fully treats her like garbage the entire series long.

30 seconds. And what is so aspirational about him besides his like money and the fact that like there's some intrigue with these guys that like are dicks. You know what I mean? He's like a fuck boy before we had the term for fuck boy. That's obvious to me. He's fine. Also, he fully like is a dick to her friends. Like it's really, really annoying.

I don't know if I like Aiden better for him. Five seconds. Better than him. But I would say maybe Carrie should be single. I don't think so honey and that's one minute that was beautiful that was very tame especially compared to the energy of this whole

insane episode I feel like I don't think so honey was actually one of the most grounded things we've heard well because he was coming it was rationalizing a lot it was real I feel and I often feel like with I don't think so honey I finally find what I'm going to say at the very end. Yeah.

And what I would like to say definitively about Sarah Jessica Parker, a.k.a. Carrie Bradshaw, marrying Chris Noth, a.k.a. Mr. Big, is his name was John. I know. When did they learn that? In the movie. In the last episode of the series, you find out that his name is John. And I'm like, okay, so it wasn't even like he was more interesting it hidden? In the last episode of the series, you find out that his name is John. And I'm like, okay, so it wasn't even like he was more interesting on paper. No, I think you find out in the movie.

No, you find out in the last episode of the show. All right. I haven't seen much of any of that show or movie, but I did, the second one is basically like an incitement to class warfare. Yes. Oh, yeah.

They go to Dubai. They go to Dubai. It's uncomfortable. They're incredibly insensitive. And they should never be there. It's essentially a two and a half long, two and a half hour long commercial for Dubai. But they're incredibly disrespectful.

That must have been that and Fast and Furious 8, whichever one that's in Dubai also. It felt like it was shot with the same crew. They just rolled straight into the other movie. Well, you always know, you always know in these movies when like, they're just doing a commercial for tourism in another country.

Like whenever they go there for no fucking reason, which happens, which also I believe happens in a black Panther. Uh, to Dubai, they go to Korea, Korea, Korea,

whenever they go to another country and it's just like yeah well Dubai it happens the most well yeah because

I suspect the there's a lot of I mean like so many movies like take a jaunt to China or like again have like a Chinese DJ

or whatever as part of the part of the gang who they don't like or talk to but I it's that is just like so like Chinese DJ or whatever as part of the gang who they don't like or talk to. But that is just like so like I think it's got to be just like white movie execs being like. There's money in Asian art. We got to make these people feel like they're part of it.

We need them to be our audience. But actually like if you notice it, which I'm sure you have, like more often than not now, these big action films will include, like one of the set pieces will include like an Eastern country. They do now different cuts. Like there's a whole, I guess Iron Man 3 has fully 10 more minutes that are just like, isn't China amazing?

Like apparently, I haven't seen it, but yeah. I believe it just because it's such a huge part of the world now in terms of like where film is consumed and it's such a huge market I mean we were talking about this the other day or not the other day like I was talking about I believe Guy Branum was the one that brought it up and he was saying like you know it used to be that um you could have like a mainstream film it didn't need to appeal to international audiences specifically the Asian market but that has changed now like in order to be like an internationally

bankable movie star it's very important that you appeal to the Chinese market yeah which is bizarre yeah like as a Chinese person I find it well it's trying to appeal to the culture but it's also trying to like but then the culture is

being like so it's also it's like people it's like people like us are the closest that a lot of the people that make decisions get to that culture and we're not that close to the target culture and then it's like and then the target culture

overseas are the types of people who would build a fake Paris yeah I'm saying. You know what I'm saying? Although, you know what? I'm down with that. That's separate. Also, when you say we have to open it up to that culture, what you're also saying is we have to, in a way, limit diversity and representation

because they could, for example, I bet Love, Simon wasn't released there. You know what I mean? In terms of gay stories, they're not culturally ready to see that stuff. They edited, for example, they could, I bet Love, Simon wasn't released there. You know what I mean? In terms of gay stories, they're not culturally ready to see that stuff. They edited, I mean, this is the joke was, who's the movie already? But they further edited Bohemian

Rhapsody. Right, to include no There's literally no gay stuff at all. The other thing that the Chinese government hates is ghosts and Winnie the Pooh. Because, is it because they're actually scared of them I think unclear I think it's because a lot of like the

dissident cultural movements are around things like spirits and ancestral worship so there is an element of fear of God in a way of yeah of any kind of spirit but I think the same with Winnie the Pooh is like we don't talk to imaginary things with Winnie the Pooh it's specifically that no pants it's theoh, it's specifically that...

No pants. It's the Prime Minister, Xi Jinping, for whatever reason, it's this dumb meme that I still have not made sense around. Like, I still don't know why people compare him to Winnie the Pooh, but, like, it's this joke, it's this meme that people think he looks like Winnie the Pooh. He doesn't.

Weird. To me, he does not look like Winnie the Pooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, as a cultural image, like, Kingdom Hearts 3 came out and they cut out the Winnie the Pooh. He doesn't. To me, he does not look like Winnie the Pooh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, as a cultural image, like, Kingdom Hearts 3 came out, and they cut out the Winnie the Pooh stuff. Oh, wow. And, like, Winnie the Pooh does not,

you cannot find Winnie the Pooh anything in China. That's crazy. Happa knows. It's because he... As a full Jewish Happa, hot associate producer, Alec knows. It's because he used to date someone named Christopher Robin.

That makes sense. Okay, I'm ready. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey and it must appeal to the Chinese market. Yes. And his time starts now.

I Don't Think So Honey expensive t-shirts. I'm wearing one right now. Expensive t-shirts. A t-shirt should cost $5 at most and yet I'm being suckered into paying for these

$90 t-shirts. Why? Because Urban Outfitters. Urban Outfitters was the beginning of the end for t-shirts, for fucking conning the entire world into paying more than $5 for a t-shirt. Oh! And you know what? This is my appeal to the Chinese market.

I'm wearing Comme des Garcons, being very, very stereotypical for an Asian. It's very so Asian to wear. But I feel like a fool. I feel it's like an emperor's new clothes kind of thing where now I finally am snapping out of it and I'm looking at myself. I'm going, what am I wearing? Oh, my God, it's a $90 t-shirt.

I can only pay. Old Navy all the way. Bring back Old Navy. Old Navy is queen. Old Navy is canon. Buy all your t-shirts pay Old Navy all the way bring back Old Navy Old Navy is queen Old Navy is canon buy all your t-shirts at Old Navy and then silk screen

whatever you would like onto that or buy our t-shirts at tpublic.com slash store slash lostcultures and that's one minute where you plugged the merch

of all moments it is what a degree of difficulty so insane to me you would dare get on this podcast and say, I don't think so, honey. Expensive t-shirts. There is nothing you enjoy more than buying clothing that is 200 to 300% more expensive than it should be.

I'm saying- You love it. No, but I'm turning a corner. I'm rounding a corner now where I'm just like, clothes should not cost this much. Yeah, they shouldn't. But they also don't. It's the stuff that you buy. Yeah.

No, I'm realizing this. This is a moment of self-awareness. I'm leveling up. This is my journey. I want to see two things from you going forward. I want to see two things from you going forward. And if I don't see them, I'm filing for a divorce. What?

Go. One, no cigarettes. Okay. Two, no expensive designer t-shirts. You can just, you want to buy an expensive designer sweater,

whatever, fine. But a t-shirt, no. T-shirt, bitch! No, I know. Honey. I know. It just, none of it aligns,

none of it makes sense. Okay. This is Tawny Newsome's. Can I confess something to you? Yes. Now, classically and famously, I do not plan things. Yes.

Oh, neither do we. So is there a trollable option here? Is that possible for the recorded? I know it's possible for the live show, but I did not know. Yes, we can pull one up right now. I haven't heard someone do it on the recorded thing in a while, in studio. Yes, because people don't, close mouths don't get fed. People don't ask for it.

And the fact that you're asking for it is a huge deal. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I famously will not plan a thing. I have something. Okay, I can't read what you're pointing at, so you go. Tawny. Yes.

Your I don't think so honey troll bowl topic is Salma Hayek. And your time starts now. I don't think so honey Salma Hayek because I have been forever confused if it is Selma or Salma. I do not know if it is an A that we are pronouncing as an E or if it is an E that we are pronouncing as an A. Maybe it's an A we're saying as an A, and I have just had the problem this whole time. Salma Hayek, I don't think so, honey. You made the blunt cut very fashionable, and I could not have one when I was that age. My hair would not do it.

So I don't think so, honey, you making me want something I could not have. I don't think so, honey, you making me want something I could not have. I don't think so, honey, you essentially being the Latina Chloe seven. Yay. You are both chic and you're basically a clothes hanger. Your shoulders seem to just want silk caressing them. And it makes me jealous.

Your cannon of work is good. However, I haven't seen you in a while. I don't think so, honey, where have you been? Probably raising children, in which case my hat is off to you.

15 seconds. Or doing anything else. You're allowed to have a life. Why are people on you about what your career is? Everyone should leave you alone. I don't think so, honey. The people who won't leave

Selma or Salma Hayek alone. Oh, no. 15 seconds. I don't think so. I didn't know that you weren't Johnny Depp's girlfriend for a while. And that was one minute.

Did she ever date Johnny Depp? I don't think so. I just didn't vibe in movies. Yeah. So we should say flat out it is Salma. Okay. Well. And my least favorite thing about Salma Hayek is she talks at this speed.

Who said this? This is the pace at which Salma Hayek speaks. English is a second language. No, I think it's just her vibe. It's just discipline. Just have the discipline. But I respect Salma Hayek because of Frida. I thought she was very good in Frida,

and also I respect her because she had a really hard time with Weinstein on that film. Oh, you're right. That was her passion project and she fought until she was like sick to make that work. But importantly,

Tawny does not respect her. That's a thing we all have to- Apparently, I learned tonight that I don't. Of course. You don't have to keep in mind. And that's fine and that's beautiful.

But when I leave this room, I will go back to respecting her. She looks great in a choker. Absolutely. She always rocked a choker. And that's beautiful. But when I leave this room, I will go back to respecting her. She looks great in a choker. Absolutely. She always rocked a choker. Or, and you know, famously, Or bare necks.

Beautiful, gorgeous woman. Bombshell. Yeah. Why did this get so weird? The way you complimented her was weird. It's because I'm straight. It's odd.

It doesn't feel like it. I'm keeping my fucking mouth shut. She's, to me, famously the person who is short but seems monstrously tall. Yeah. Oh, that's good. She's like actually quite

short. She's the best friend of Penelope Cruz and I bet they're both like tiny but when they stand together you would think Penelope Cruz was a giraffe. Like they're people you look over to see an ATM. Speaking of that look, this is my other gross straight guy confession. At the Emmys? Was it the Emmys or the Grammys or whatever?

I did not know that Kacey Musgraves was not Nelly Furtado for fully an hour. Oh, that's crazy. I just couldn't tell. I see that. I just didn't know what was happening. I was literally like, why the fuck is Nelly Furtado for fully an hour. Oh, that's crazy. I just couldn't tell. You know, I see that. I just didn't know what was happening. I was literally like, why the fuck is Nelly Furtado singing with Dolly Parton right now?

This doesn't make any sense. I know. No, I get it. How do you get it? They just all look the same to me. There you go. And there you go. These little,

these mousy little songstresses. Are they the sameresses running around. All women look the same to you? I want to report that Matt Rogers has eaten his Asian pear down to now the size of a key lime. You did it! Congratulations. It's a golf ball. You're playing all the

sports with that pear. I really enjoyed it, you guys. It's a good fruit. I threw mine away when it got like wiffle ball sized. Should the title of that be Asian pears yes yes Asian pears

what was the other one um Panthers are out there Panthers are out there I love and then Improbable Juices Improbable Juices is also we've got some good candidates

yeah we have some good candidates we will we will counsel on this weigh in on the Patreon yes oh we're by the way oh we should just say right here.

Do you have a Patreon? We do. We have not added new content to it for months and months. The Patreon's dead. The Patreon's dead. We're so sorry for the people who still support us,

but thank you for supporting us. I do RuPaul's Drag Race reviews and recaps now on What the Tuck. And so, and Matt and I are on different coasts now, so it's just harder to keep up

and we don't want to take your money while we don't put out content that's specifically for a smaller audience. And so therefore, we will be shuttering that. Bo and Yang are in an LDPR, a long-distance podcast relationship. There you go.

So what I'm hearing is you guys have too much money and you can't accept it from people. I would love that money. My bank account won't allow more money. Oh, you hit the top if you get any more money it actually rolls over to zero yeah Brewster's million

it's like that so every day I have to buy a million things I don't know if you guys so when Tani was in Vancouver when she was in Atlanta she stays booked when Tani was in Vancouver. No, when she was in Atlanta. Maybe Vancouver also.

She stays booked. When Tani was... No. You have to cut that. No. No, absolutely not. It was half an inside joke, but also it sounds horrible. Anyway, go.

No, it's okay. But we had a month or two where we were doing remote episodes, Tani on the phone. And Earwolf set her up with maybe the most hilarious thing I've ever seen, which was like a portable VO booth that was about, I don't know, 1.5 feet, you know, cube of felt. Cubic feet, yeah.

That you basically had to put the microphone in and then stick your head in to talk it. And she sent a picture of it. I'll see if I can find it. Keep talking about it. Is this her head in a box? It was the funniest shit I've ever seen in my entire life. What's in the box? It was, yeah. Trondy Newman. Well, we do have to do Andrew.

Andrew T's I Don't Think So Honey. Do you have something prepared? Yeah. We love that. I mean, vaguely prepared. And also, if you listened to, it's different than what I did at I light i don't think so honey life but but here we go similar themes here's andrew's i don't think so honey and his time starts now boy i don't think so honey to asian uh twitter being on that first draft tip

oh i just am very i so just today uh i i forget it was, but every time Scarlett Johansson, oh, it was that Shang-Chi is about to be the first Marvel superhero. Yes. And I just knew that so many Asian Twitter people, who I love many of them, were going to say I thought Black Widow was the first Asian superhero. Yeah, 30 seconds. Because of Scarlett Johansson. And I'm just thinking, this is my plea, both to Asian Twitter and to all marginalized communities

because I know we've had to put up with a lot of shitty comedy forever, but I just really, really want us to just second draft. Just second draft it. We are in a time of Asian, I'm sitting in a room with Asian comedic excellence and I just, five seconds. We can in a time of Asian, I'm sitting in a room with Asian comedic excellence.

And I just five seconds. We can do better. Please do better. I love you so much, but please do better. And that's one minute. It's never good to be first thought. Thank you so much.

I'm so bummed out by it. What's next? Hear the thing after the thing. Not good to be first thought. I just can't go to a place where people, I just cannot validate any tweets. After they announced Emma Stone is hosting with BTS and is a musical guest,

and a lot of people have been like, wow, an Asian episode, an all Asian episode. I'm like, y'all. We can do better. We can do better. There's literally been millions of jokes about that. It's like, you gotta do better. I know.

And I get the instinct. Look, look, look look look look we all have the thought it's a shared thought just don't put it out there that's what some comedy so that's what some comedy is

it's a shared thought it's an observation that other people share with you but but we've observed it we've observed it we've observed it

and all the versions of it so many lessons on this episode a lot of lessons oh I mean I just so many lessons on Yo! What Yo! Is This Racist.

And here's the thing is you said that when you listen to their podcast that you become smarter. And who knew that as a result of them coming to Las Colas Teresa. With their pairs, with Andrew's pair. With the pairs. They have made this pair. The podcast pairs. They have made this pair, and I'm pointing to you and I, much smarter. This is a smarter pair.

I would also say, may I take the floor? You may, please. I would like to say that coming on this podcast with Andrew's pairs that he graciously allowed me to share. Which are your pairs. Sure, sure, sure. And watching this pair, and now I am pointing at the two Chinese gentlemen in the room.

Tight. Watching them have very tender cultural moments that they don't get to have very often was very enriching for me. So while I'm also smarter, but I also feel privileged and honored to have been able to crunch along with my fellow white brethren and listen in.

You guys are more Chinese. Is that why you're more Chinese? You guys are more Chinese. I feel lucky I'm staying away from the number four, right? That's the deal? Yeah. Get away from the number four. Well, it's important that everyone knows

I'm culturally Chinese-Iranian. No. I am. We're writing this to the end of the interview. My parents are Bowen and Sudi. Inshallah, no one comes to me when they listen to this. Inshallah. And what do we say?

What's your Chinese? What do you say in Chinese now? You don't have a Chinese phrase that you go to. I don't. And so I would like one. What's one for Matt? Oh, Inshallah. What's the equivalent of Inshallah? God willing.

So it's like, oh, this is tough. We'll come up with one. It has to be now. Inshallah, it's like, oh, Si Wong, maybe. Si Wong. Yeah, Si Wong. Well, that's like Oh, Si Wong maybe Si Wong Yeah, Si Wong

Well, that's just like I hope But you don't really say Si Wong, a lot of people listen to this That's really good Si Wong, everyone listens to this Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong

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Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong Si Wong I was me I or I literally match our pitch I hope people listen to this

I hope people listen to this honestly it was pretty good I mean but Matt's a musical person I think he would pick up Mandarin yeah the tones are

a lot better honestly a lot better than my cousin is dating this white guy who lived in Shanghai for like nine years

and so she's like a Chinese girl from San Diego who like, you know, never really embraced any Asian-ness. And her white boyfriend, his accent is not great, but his vocabulary is expansive. So it's hugely embarrassing for me.

That's so weird. Right? So 我 is me. Yes, I. I. Like, if I wanted to express myself. 希望 is hope. Yeah. 希望. 希望. 希望. Yes. I. I. Like if I wanted to express myself. Si Wong is hope. Yeah.

Si Wong. Si Wong. Si Wong. Yeah. Oh, I like it. Pretty good. It sounds beautiful. Very good.

Si Wong. Can I take the floor now? Yeah. Please. I really, really enjoyed the conversation, the musical interludes, the references to Trish, to Leigh-Anne, to Shania, and then what was the harmony song? That was Walk Away Joe.

I mean, truly beautiful. It was really great. A meeting of the minds musically. Thank you so much. And I feel not only smarter, but that this bit I saw, but I was able to see this pair come together musically and that is beautiful. Two beautiful vocalists. Thank you. Thank you. We are a pair.

And you know that we are a pair. And you know that what we do and please listen to Yo, Is This Racist? And what we do at the end of every episode is we do end with a song. We end with a song. And so, and it comes to us very naturally. How do I

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