Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “Improv Boat” (w/ Ty Sunderland)

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

This week DJ & performer Ty Sunderland joins Matt and Bowen to discuss pop icons, starting to produce music at 18, his Devil's Playground party, NY nightlife, and more!MERCH! MERCH! GET YOUR LAS CULTURISTAS MERCH!https://www.teepublic.com/stores/las-culturistasSUBSCRIBE ON APPLE PODCASTS TODAY!CONNECT W/ LAS CULTURISTAS ON FACEBOOK & TWITTER for the best in "I Don't Think So, Honey" action, updates on live shows, conversations with the Las Culturistas community, and behind-the scenes photos/videos:www.facebook.com/lasculturistastwitter.com/lasculturistasLAS CULTURISTAS IS A FOREVER DOG PODCAST. LAS CULTURISTAS IS PRODUCED BY EMMA FOLEY.http://foreverdogproductions.com/fdpn/podcasts/las-culturistas/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hmm. A little lilt. We were discussing catchphrases, new catchphrases. And I don't have any, but you seem to be working with some new things. Some new. Well, I'm always loving the opportunity to have a platform for the new catchphrases. And now I'm loving two new ones that I've noticed you using.

Well, one that I noticed you using and one that you told me that you've been using lately. Go on. So the one that I've noticed you using is saying, well, the headline is blank. Oh, she's short. But this is, I can't attribute that to me. It's just something I've picked up.

I love it though. It's not a creation. No, it's okay. You're propagating it. Sure. So you're saying like, whatever, brunch was fine, but the headline is, the mimosas were great. Yeah.

And that's an example. And then the other one, can you explain? The other one is, everyone, when something is shaking your world. So for example, we'll talk about Camilla's new album. Yes. Alright, so I arrived at the studio today and I've been listening to new Camilla and I'm gagged I actually have to come out today as a Camilla stan so what I would say

about this new album is when I listen to it I would say the word alt rock has been used she's giving me some almost alternative rock

vibes in her new music I'm not kidding what are your references I feel she's serving you some Alanis oh okay I feel like she has made a turn away from, and this is, again, so the headline is,

the thing I'm saying is the word blank has been used. Okay, so, wow. So for Bowen Yang on SNL, the word breakout has been used. Stop, but this is, so then this is. Just a little brag for my girl. So just alert, alert, this is the new catchphrase. That's the new catchphrase. The word blank has been used. The word blank has been used.

The word blank has been used. Now moving on to Camilla. Which is culture. Which is what this podcast we should be talking about. We should be talking about it. I just want to say Camilla is slaying. Both her performances at SNL were, I'm sorry but giving you acting. We can talk about her wardrobe.

We can talk about it. But in terms of the musical content. It's good. We're being served and we're also, it's risky stuff. For me, it feels very emotional and lyrical and almost like pop rocky. But listen, that's what she was giving you on her eponymous album. Her debut solo album. I mean, Never Be The Same.

Never Be The Same is so good. Such a slow simmer of a song that just like grows and grows. And oh, it's so thick and juicy. I feel even a progression on this. Okay. Do you know the song Speechless? I don't. That song is really good.

And Easy is. Easy is very good. Not to be tampered with. Not to be tampered with. And wow. I mean, yeah. We stand Camilla in this house. So anyway, those are the headlines.

It's been a long time since we've recorded yes you and I here sitting together we we have backlogged we've backlogged I think yeah I think we've um backlogged and some and the listeners are a little upset but we but here we are here we are and we will we will have this worked out I think we have proposed solutions to each other that I think everyone will be very happy with. So don't you worry about that. And can I tell you what the headline is for me in LA? Yeah. Driving. Okay, what do we feel? I'm behind the wheel of a car and it's not good. It's dangerous. Okay.

Okay, let's get into this. But I just want to say that is not the best use of that phrase. The headline is driving. Driving is not a headline. Okay, well the word driving has been used. How about that? That's great. So, are you good at it? Are you bad at it? What are your habits?

What do you like to do? What's your comfortable place? My habit is panicking. So, I'm in a habit of every time I get in the car being like, well, here we go. And I do have a full-ass license.

I don't want anyone to be concerned. I am legally allowed to be there. It's just that, like, you know, let's just say I don't always know that I can make a turn onto a street.

I just am doing it. Okay. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? Like, if there's a red light and I'm trained to turn right on red. I don't know. Some cities it's different. Some cities you can. I haven't figured out what the situation is with L.A, but I am turning right on red. I think as long as, if you're in a part of town

where the buildings are more than 10 stories tall, I think you can't. No, no, no, this is my arbitrary made up rule. Oh, okay. Because for all I know, that could be real. No, no, no, no. And I'm like, what? Like, I just learned that you can't park

where there's a red paint on the sidewalk. What the fuck is this? Yeah, that's what it means. That's the denotation. But it's, I feel like in a heavily in a dense urban era you can't make right turns on red okay so i think that should be your rule of thumb but just i just turn i can't drive without turning on the ways as long as you have ways it won't it'll it'll i have my and you know luckily my whatever device i'm

using the google like directions, regular app. Okay. So maybe I should get a better one. Maybe I should get Waze. Get Waze. Google owns it. All I know is the woman who's talking to me from the phone always gives me enough time. Like, it's like, you need to turn right here.

I always have enough time. And I'm thankful to that woman. Thank you, woman. Who we'll call? Allison. Allison. I think you'll get better at it i think it's something that people acquire it's a skill that people acquire through through time

and practice yeah um please be careful i'm going i'm i'm extraordinarily careful parking is very much a thing yes but i'm here in one piece and can i tell you what they don't have in la what they don't have our guests they don't have our guests and they are talking about how they don't have in la what they don't have our guests they don't have our guests and they are talking about how they don't have our guests are they really because you go i run into some pissed off queens who are like please give us songs with damn lyrics do you want to know and they're but they're also just saying the vibe is not present in los angeles and i'm sorry i know it's not shade it's just a stating of the facts that like you

don't have parties like. But you know what? That in Los Angeles. You do not. Also in New York you don't have parties like let's say Ospinoff where they sell giant slices of watermelon outside the warehouse. We love and we stan, but it's not, I mean nothing can compare.

Nothing can compare to our guests. Talk about how much fun we had this year at Pride. This year at Pride we had. That was one of the best parties I've ever been to in my life. I was going to say, superlative, the funnest night of my life. Our guest is a fucking entertainer. It was the funnest night of my life. It was all the people I cared about and loved in one place. It wasn't even about, like, you know, debaucherous behavior or sex or anything i truly

like joy it was pure joy i was so i it was just so so fun and there's and like there there was such a history around the party devil's playground oh yeah and bringing it to webster hall and like bringing sort of that back into Webster Hall with like this queer sort of like funnel. Ethos. Truly, truly, truly got, like I get emotional thinking about it.

Oh my god. And also just talk about music that you hear and you're like you turn to someone on your side and you go who is this faggot? Who is this faggot? This witch. Ira Madison III. How did he know? Ira Madison III. I don't know a better DJ.

The moment. I don't know. The moment. Of Devil's Playground, both Pride and Back to School, was him playing Who Do You Think You Are by Spice Girls. And all of us were seeing like, oh my God, this song.

It's a gift to be able to pull out of thin air the next song. You know what I mean? And you in pull out of thin air the next song. You know what I mean? And you in your heart knew it was the next song, and I'll tell you something. Contour the feeling into emotion by Mariah. You can't beat that. The gag every time you hear Since You've Been Gone in a set.

Oh, the gag. Literally, Since You've Been Gone will come on, everyone will drop their arms, and all my friends that know me will look at me and i'll just go i'll just nod yeah i'm like that i'm telling them i'm okay and ty has our guest has facilitated that for you okay so it's devil's playground at webster hall it's coming back on valentine's day in 2020 um love prism at three dollar bill gay flower in the summertime uh themed booze cruises basically um circle line and uh oh my god what else maybe heaven on earth truly a takeover uh it's new york nightlife is going

through new york gay nightlife is going through a moment right now and even even like i was gonna say even but like susan barsch-esque. But like, of that DNA, it's all coming back in this way that's very exciting that everyone feels a part of and included. And good about it. And good about it. So we're so happy to have our guest. Know the name. Know the name. Please welcome to your

ears, Ty Sunderland! Here we go. Hi, boys. Now, Ty is called, we saw Ty at Webster Hall for um back to school Devil's Playground and we said you have to

come on the pod and then Ty says the thing that I will never forget he goes oh I have to you guys are gay hardball and we laughed and laughed

it is it's like there's a lot of things going on everyone's talking it's like culture culture culture talk talk talk and then it gets like

really loud I'm like yeah this is gay hardball I mean I thought I thought about like what gay hardball I mean I thought I thought about like what gay hardball would actually be if it actually were

Chris Matthews like asking Kelly and Conway so how do you bottom like a gay hardball in that way but I'm happy that that's I'm happy that Chris Matthews

isn't here yes absolutely I don't trust him to ask you those questions no no of course not I trust Bowen I

but not in that abrasive way no but that's Chris Matthews that's Chris Matthews That's Chris Matthew's energy. That's Chris Matthew's energy. Ty, how were these past two weeks?

Both weeks, I meant to, I bought tickets. I meant to go. Oh, sorry. Oh, no, I didn't buy tickets for Love Prison, but I

unceremoniously DM'd you and was like, hey, I might be able to come. No, of course. I may roll through. I may roll through. How are the last two parties? They were amazing. Great.

Yeah. I mean, how was orange? Orange was a nice move. Orange, like, you know, the colors... For Love Prism. Every time more and more people are wearing the color, and like, orange is such a bright, chaotic energy. Safe though. Yes. Yes. But it was like very chaotic, and I was like, wow, a lot

of people are in orange. And like, who owns orange? Honestly, I don't. I don't buy something. I own some orange items, but it was very chaotic. I was like, wow, a lot of people are in orange. Who owns orange? Honestly, I don't. I own some orange items, but it's truly once in a year moment that you wear anything orange. Right. Next one is gold. That'll be fun. I was going to do yellow, but no.

Why be yellow when you can be gold? Once you've done yellow, you can't do gold. That's not true. I believe it is.? Because once you've done yellow, you can't do gold. Exactly. Oh, that's not true. I believe it is. But I mean, by the time you've done yellow, you want to move on to something else. Right, right, right. Why live in the same family? Okay, that's true.

And we're doing gold, and I think people will turn out with their gold stuff. Yeah. And then there's a navy one beginning of next year. Oh my God. And then I will be doing a full spectrum party. It's like a full, all the colors. I want to do like

a warehouse function. That would be amazing. Now, I would say that you have some, you have one party for like every kind of scale of group of people. Yeah.

Does that make sense? Yeah. Is that like, that's all intentional, right? Yeah, of course. How do you program out your own stuff? Like is that?

I just try to be like diversify as much as I can. Like, I don't want to be the one pop DJ. I don't want to be, like, the house guy. I want to be doing a bit of everything, you know? Great, great. Like, a finger in every pot. Yeah, totally.

And what pots are there that have no fingers in them? Well, that's, like, literally what I was looking around when I, like, started, like, coming up with my own parties. Like, after Heaven on Earth was such a success, I was like, well, what else isn't happening? Because there's no, no like big pop party. It's either you're in like a big rave setting listening to house music and techno

or you're in the basement of Monster on like a broken sound system. You know? How much communication is there between you and the space of like what kind of vibe? Or do they kind of just say like, you come in and do your fucking thing? I literally rent out the space

and no questions are asked. Wow. I was wondering about that. But then I've seen you on the day or the week of an event. Let's say Devil's Playground. And it seems like you

approach it with the same kind of creative anxiety that like we would like a show. Oh, yeah. That like is nowhere near as big as a webster hall thing but it's like no but that's what i mean when i say you're an entertainer like that you are like

facilitating and controlling that environment so that is a huge show that is a huge entertainment responsibility the day of pride i was immobile i could not walk i couldn't yeah i was like i was petrified well i mean it's such a big space yeah and like being there all day doing setup, I was like, I have to DJ on this fucking stage now. You know, like it's one thing to like produce the party, but then I have to perform. Yeah. And like, I have to be introducing like these acts and stuff. And I'm like, my biggest thing was like, how am I going to introduce Kim?

Like, like, you know, no, not many people know she's performing. And like, I'm like, I don't, I'm like, I'm not going to introduce her. I'm not going to say who's coming out on stage. Kim Petros, by the way, y' right and you didn't you didn't say anything she just came out i was like i was like please make some noise for our next performer like i very i like and she trotted herself and i was like i want everyone to know that it's kim when they hear the beginning of i don't want it all like you gotta i mean and then she just comes out to that and that's like wow wow. Yeah. It's like drama.

It's drama. It really is. Yeah. And I really appreciate that. It's got such a flow. It does have a narrative. It's so much fun. Honestly, there really is something, too.

Just like when the song shifts to those next iconic moments of a song, that's when you really realize like those opening moments of a pop song are hugely important in the iconography of that song where everyone just keys into it and they're like whoa yeah i don't know that's that's just what it felt like all night and you sustained that and that's very incredible now was it no this is what josh told me dallas playground a party at webster hall drag party webster hall in the 20s yes so um they used to have a drag party at Webster Hall in the 20s? Yes. So they used to have a drag party at Webster Hall a hundred years ago, and it was the only place in the city

that you could see drag, really. And so it was nicknamed the Devil's Playground. And so when I was like going through the history of Webster and like coming up with like, you know, my idea, my manager was like, well, you know, it used to be called Devil's Playground, like when they had their gay parties there, but you can't call it Devil's Playground

because I know you, you're just going to be called devil's playground like when they had their gay parties there but you can't call it devil's playground because i know you you're just gonna go around calling it dp i was like i was like oh um okay well i guess we're calling it devil's playground i guess yeah i mean let's do it because i was looking for an abbreviation i wanted i love abbreviations i mean we are we are in for all intents and purposes lc by the way there is a there is mimosa material in front of us and I forgot to pop it. So this is what I'll say. One, two,

three. And I'm, this still makes me nervous to this day. Just do it. Here we go, baby. That will always make me nervous. And now I'm going to service the mimosas, but yes,

resume thoughts on Camilla. Talk, talk honestly. Okay. Um, I don't think I really have an opinion about her, like really formed. Like, in terms of playing her music,

I like playing Havana, but that's really it. Because it's the only song that's been iconic so far. I mean, yeah. And even just stuff that like works in club spaces, like, you know, Miley, for example, like her new album was, you can't play any of that in the club. However, on a roll roll which had no promotion whatsoever

you play it now at a gay bar everyone freaked the fucks out it's like the first five seconds of that song and you're like don't and if it's like you know it's coming you know it's already a classic I mean that's that is the vibe whenever it comes on but like this is the thing it's like there's no telling at least

for the gays there's no like proportion at least for the gays, there's no proportion of promotional muscle behind a song or an artist or an album to the response, I guess. Does that make sense? It does. I just feel like it's so funny to me that it's obvious to me that she must not care about making that kind of music right now. She's genuinely making music that she wants to make because it's so easy for

her to just be involved with something that is that level. By the way, cheers. It is Sunday. This is our brunch. We'll eat nothing else. Truly. I mean,

I could be further from the truth. Right. I'm curious about Ty's schedule, sleep schedule. What is it? What are your hours? It's all over the place, honestly,

because like Tuesdays and Wednesdays, I work late. So like I'll get home like four and I'll be in bed by five. Weekends are random, but, and then like Sunday, Monday, Thursday,

I'm hopefully in bed by midnight. So it's like, okay. But you're doing a, you're doing a 7am or a 7 a.m. or yeah but then on the other evenings but then you wake up at like noon or what like two okay yeah I love my sleep and I think that is like everyone always thinks I'm much younger than I actually am and it's fully because I get 10 hours well there you go that is crucial

yeah that is crucial wait where you would were you were were you at nyu no but you went to school here in new york i went to school at purchase in westchester yeah my parents wouldn't let me go to school in the city because they said i'd be out every night and they're not wrong were they were they were you always from high school age were you going out where did you grow up i grew up in florida so like i grew up like going to house parties and stuff but like pretty much the second i turned 18, I was like into music, playing music, producing music, like going to raves. Like I was, I've always been about it. Yeah.

The culture. Right. The culture. I guess that must have been something accessible in Florida though. It's very accessible. I mean, there's like dance music on the radio. So like that's how I actually started DJing was because when I went to purchase, there were no parties where you could hear dance music. Everyone was like sitting around listening to guitars.

Yeah. I was like, no, this isn't for me. Yeah. I was like, I'm just going to throw my own parties. And then I couldn't find a DJ. I was like, okay, guess I have to do it too. Wow. And so was it just as simple as like, let me put some playlists together and like get

started that way? Fully. Yeah. I'd be like, let me put my iPod on, you know, when everyone used to just plug it in aux yeah that's like what i do at parties i'm like this music sucks can i put some music on and then everyone's like wow you're really good are you a dj i'm like no this is just like what i listen to yeah see you've always been good at that too that you're a playlist queen i'm a playlist queen i like i like making them i don't always make good ones i don't know yeah but they always come from you you know what

i mean like i always think it's it's almost it's almost well it is it's like whenever you're like writing something it's like it's like that's like a little if they're really good they can be like entertainment it's it's a little it's it's a form of expression absolutely yeah playlists are i don't i also love your names for playlists. Yes. I'll be, I'll say, well, no, they're not like too clever. Sometimes I try to be too clever. I feel very vulnerable right now talking about this.

It is a vulnerable thing because that's the thing too. It's like when people are listening to your stuff, it's like your taste. And so if they're not to respond to something, that has to be like a moment. Well, you're basically saying like, this is what i like yeah people are and people can be like oh well this is like yeah you have awful taste well then okay so then let's walk us through different parties where you'll do like okay so so dp is very much pop party huge space it's it's pop meets like big room classic gay anthems. Yes, great. It's like you hear the pop stuff and then you're going to hear

Was It Man Enough For Me, Tony Braxton. Yes. How Did You Get Here. Which is the best song of all time. I mean, it'd be hard to argue. It's pretty wild. But then for Love Present, you'll do disco-y stuff.

It's like disco leaning, house leaning. It's like disco-leaning, house-leaning. It's just like very joy-based house stuff that has vocals in it. You know, because like a lot of the parties in New York that play house music, it's like kind of dark. It's like dark energy. And it's like, you know, there's different strokes for different folks. But I was like, I want to go to a party where I can just like feel joy, but not necessarily pop music. You know, because I was already doing pop music. I'm like,

how do I create that joy with different music? But it feels like we're still in a place where the music is uns, uns, uns, no lyrics, no words, nothing to latch onto.

And it's, and it's good for if you're like, yeah, in a K hole or whatever. I think for a certain vibe, that is what it requires. Nine times out of 10, if I want to go out,

I want to hear a damn song with words. Oh, I mean, yes. For us, I think 100%. But for the circuit crowd, and I love the circuit boys so much, but just be open to maybe dancing and sucking dick to a song with words in it? I don't know.

I think the Last Love Prism, they are definitely coming around. The Circuit Boys? Yeah. How does it make you feel? I'm crossing over. Yes! There we go. It's for everyone. Exactly. This is just me not understanding how circuits work. I famously called Poppy Juice's circuit party

on this podcast and they gave me shit for it, but it's fine. We make mistakes here. Please, you have to forgive. We have a recursive duty. I would say that, I would say that like, if you're going to cross over into circuit stuff,

you're going to have to like throw like a circuit destination party, wouldn't you? Or you wouldn't have to, but it's like, is that? I mean, I would love to. I would love to do like a big party somewhere else. Okay. You know? Well,

then I was going to ask, because with this LA stuff, you're, they want you there bad. Cause LA is happening. Can I just say for like anyone who's listening, LA is happening, but LA,

I heard about a rumor about a boat. The boat is canceled because literally I did, I did a poll on Instagram. I was like, I was like, LA, if I do a boat party, are you guys going to fucking come or not?

Everyone who said no lives in LA. Whoa. Everyone who said yes was like, LA, if I do a boat party, are you guys going to fucking come or not? Everyone who said no lives in LA. Whoa. Everyone who said yes was like, lives in New York. I was like, okay. But then I see it on the map and I was like, yeah, Marina Del Rey is far from, you know. Oh, sure. It's harder to get them out there.

Yes. I mean, when West Hollywood is there and when even some stuff on the east side is there, it's hard to get, I think, the gays to travel. Yeah. No, I mean, it's not New York. You know, it's different. It's different. I mean, the east side is there it's hard to get i think the gays to travel yeah no i mean it's not new york you know it's it's different it's different i mean the boat's right there yeah but for la it's so weird because the center of gravity is is west hollywood yeah so much so that it's like it's a it's a monopsy which is different than a monopoly where it's just like

one okay definition of like one thing like of... Like one thing contains all of it rather than one thing, whatever. Anyway, I totally biffed that. But I liked it. It's dirty to me. It's like, in New York, it's fun because there's this, whatever. It's more fragmented.

It's more plural. It's like you can get different people from different crowds together, where I feel like in LA, it's like you can you can get different people from different crowds together where i feel like in la it's like you gotta you gotta like appeal to one specific sector of the population and that is the only sector and that is the biggest sector of the gay in terms of the queer population it feels like there are west hollywood gays and there are east side gays for sure yeah like that's just there's definitely more a fragmentation whereas it's a little bit more

but also in new york there's like hell's Kitchen. Oh yeah, we have Hell's Kitchen and then Brooklyn. Brooklyn Gates. I mean, it's really the same thing. Sure. The number one thing is just the travel of it all. And you have to go to spaces that are big enough. But like, have you been to Avita?

You've been to Avita. I haven't been to Avita yet. Oh, that's really fun. So I have done one party in LA last May, not this past May, the May before that. And I did a warehouse downtown

and it was like the Britney theme and everything. And it was great yeah but like i was like you know everyone's gonna want to party till like six o'clock in the morning it was it was done by three yeah that's i mean that's a whole other thing it's like you're in you just go home really or you go to house parties in la which i personally hate going to someone's house it always feels like a next like a last ditch destination. LA gays are like a game night culture. It's not true. Yes, yes. You play celebrity and fucking... You're so biased that you know nothing.

I feel like from my sampling, it's just like, let's play... No, Bowen Yang has never been on a plane. Bowen Yang has only grown up in New York City, so he doesn't know any other culture. Absolutely. But LA is happening though, but what like are what can you drop so next year i mean obviously i'd planned it around november i had a weekend i had a boat i had everything going and then i was

like no this isn't gonna work so now i have to like start from scratch damn oh you it was gonna be for this november this yeah next yeah i was like about to announce it like like last week i was gonna announce it i had it already and then i was like, no, this isn't going to work. Okay, if this is too painful, you can not answer. But what was it going to be? Can you walk us through? It was going to be It's Britney Boat LA. Oh, fuck.

Wow. Yeah. Okay. And then honestly, the boat of it all sunk it. The boat of it all sunk it. We went to Britney Boat here. Ah, the best. Fabulous.

Fabulous time. I missed Gaga Boat, but I was gagged thinking about what it was. Did you see Aquaria's makeup for that? Yes, so fucking good. Aquaria at the Fenty show? That was a moment. I was watching it with Dave

and we were saying, and the thing about Aquaria is she can fucking hit the steps. I was like, you know what? Not only does she look amazing, and it is part of the diversity of the event, but it was like, she can fucking hit the steps yeah i was like you know what like not only does she look amazing um like and it is part of the diversity of the event but it was like she could fucking hit the yeah she's a dancer girl she's a performer yeah i mean talk about like the most knocked down drag out i one of the most for me drag race wins yeah yeah hers for sure 100 like like you watch some of these seasons now and you're like talking about who should win and you're like,

fuck, if Aquaria was in this season, it wouldn't even be a competition. Right. Yeah, totally. I felt that about the last season for sure. A great winner. A great winner. Yeah.

And I was watching her on that show and I remember we saw you after the Robin concert. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah, because I went with Aquaria to Robin. Yeah, that was hilarious. That was a fucking good show too. That was like

a religious experience for me. She's another one where it's like if you play Robin, you got him. Like, truly defining songs of our generation.

I don't know if you guys saw the pitchfork list of the top 200 songs. Dancing on My Own was like three. Well, Dancing on My Own was like, yeah, in the top five.

For me, the top one, two, three were three, four, five. I believe it was Dancing on My Own and one two three were three four five i believe it was dancing on my own and then formation was in there yes and then one other thing i'm forgetting one two was in there two one two was also up there and i was like that's a great call but what was what was what was number one for the it was all right by kundrick right yeah great song great i mean it's a great song it's a great you can't argue with it just for me it was like if i see

dancing on my own at three i'm like that should be one and then oh and then blonde was the number I mean it's a great song it's a great you can't argue with it just for me it was like if I see Dancing on My Own at three I'm like that should be one oh and then Blonde was the number one album yeah there you go

I thought that was overall a good list but I was I was on the podcast Keep It last week and we were talking about how for me it's like

it's always gonna skew more mainstream like anything Pitchfork is saying like no of course I'm not listening to almost any music that men make. Except they're really big Carly stans.

They stan Carly so hard. They get it with her. Taste. But they hate Gaga. The only Gaga. Not one Gaga song. Wow, you are correct. Not one Gaga song on the song list.

The only Gaga on the album list was Fame Monster and they were like 2009, but it kind of informed the rest of the decade after that. So we're going to include it on the list list was fame monster and they were like 2009 but it kind of informed the rest of the decade after that so we're gonna include it on the list you can't i'm sorry but you can't talk about the 2010s in music i understand she was more popular in 2008 2009 but you can't talk about the last decade in music without even mentioning lady gaga that doesn't make sense that doesn't at least put like born this way something from born this way or just throw something from Art Pop on there

just to get out of your own way because Art Pop, justice for Art Pop, of course, as we all say. In terms of tracks, in terms of songs of the decade, Shallow, why not? Just put Shallow in there. Oh, yeah, come on. It's ignorant to ignore it.

Ignorant. It's ignorant to ignore it. You can't talk about the last 10 years in culture and then get to 2008, 2019 and not mention A Star Is Born. Talk about it however you want, but it was a moment in culture. then get to 2008, 2019 and not mention A Star is Born. Like talk about it however you want, but it was a moment in culture. Right.

It was. So last year we did a Gaga boat and that song came out like the day before the party happened, but everyone already knew all the lyrics. So yeah. Yeah. Of Shallow? Yeah.

Of Shallow. Yeah. So someone, I played it and the whole place was like singing along and like some Shangela reposted and then Mark Ronson reposted the video of the boat. I'm like, wow, this is so cool. No, that was like a moment. Like that was like one of those songs that for some reason the melody of it just like gets in your brain.

It was kind of like let it go. I don't know if you ever watched like kids sing let it go. But like I used to do children's, some children's theater and to warm them up they would play the song let it go and what would happen to the children i can't describe it it was like a trance came over them where they were just like let it go it almost made you feel like what subliminal messages in this song to make them do this but something about shallow like when we even heard like the trailer or the show the trailer and they were showing that it was going to be a song we were like whatever that is that is iconic yeah yeah yeah and then it was and then i do feel that song had a life like let it go did where it was like just always in the culture i mean it won

the mosquers yes it won the mosquers it was a cinematic moment are you gonna are you gonna do because josh sharp had pitched you a beyonce boat with is that is that is that gonna be something in this next summer or no it's so hard to like because the boat i can only do like three of them right right and it's like it's i'm like who's gonna be the top three selling because like really you know it's frankly not cheap to rent a boat no no and like get all that going do you you break even or you you or you make a profit off the boats, though. I make a profit off the boats. Okay, great. Yeah, mostly.

Okay. But it's still like, ugh, you know, who do I pick? With Britney and Gaga, it's smart, because it's like, you get,

you know the vibe, and also, everyone has a vocabulary for it. Yes. You know? So, those are knockouts, always. And then this year, it was like Madonna,

because I was like, yeah. I knew she was gonna Madonna cuz I was like yeah I knew she was gonna be I knew she was gonna be like the surprise performer so there's gonna be hype around her and she's right I'm out I was like let's do Madamax next year I think I'm gonna do Spice Girls oh that would be fucking great like it's been a while since I've done a Spice Girls party this January will be two years since I've done a Spice Girls party and I was talking to Bobby Campbell Gaga's man yeah he was like he was watching Spice World.

And I was like, oh my God, what an iconic movie. He's like, you need to do a gay flower Spice Girls. I was like, that's perfect because the boat's only three hours and they only have two albums.

So, you know, it's hard to do like a five hour forever erasure. Okay. Okay. Sorry. I sang goodbye. If all five of them are not on it,

it's not canon. You're right. You're right. You're right. I mean, I think Spice Girls is a fucking hit. And I do think if there was one of the other like girls that I's not canon you're right you're right i mean i think spice girls boat is a fucking hit and i do think if there was one of the other like girls that i could say you could build a boat around it was obviously be beyonce i mean beyonce you get you

know exactly what's well i would say rihanna oh okay one hundred rihanna has so many like dance songs like that's the thing with like beyonce's music is like it's not all club ready it's right you know like some of it is most of it is especially a lot of Destiny's Child a lot of her earlier stuff but like her more recent stuff besides Formation none of it really works in a different world. Well I was going to say the thread for all the boats for the gay flower boats this

past summer were it was it was chronological Madonna Britney Gaga in terms of like like pop star girl absolutely and like successors to Madonna even where Britney was kind of like pop star, it girl. Yeah, absolutely. And like successors to Madonna even where Britney was kind of like the princess and then Gaga comes in as like-

The joker. The jester. Yeah, the jester. I would say if you wanted a thread and take it or leave it, but definitely leave it, is if you wanted to start with Spice Girls, you do girl groups where you do Spice Girls,

Destiny's Child, and you throw in Beyonce stuff. And then the third one is like who? Little Mix. It would be so fun to do Child, and you throw in Beyonce stuff. And then the third one is who? Little Mix. It would be so fun to do just girl group fiesta. Because what you could fucking do is, obviously, Spice Girls, Little Mix, Fifth Harmony. You could fucking throw in some TLC.

I was just going to say Destiny's Child. 3LW. 3LW. I mean, honestly, Pussycat Dolls. It's mostly Nicole, but it's mostly Nicole. I mean, we can talk about how it's mostly Nicole we stand Nicole in this house yeah same

do you know the song Poison by Nicole Scherzinger I got that poison I don't think so oh my god she's got so many bops that were only released this is solo I literally already pitched to my manager I'm like I want to get Nicole for pride dude I'm saying it's so bad the gays would there would be an army of gays i had to explain to my manager

who she is and i was like really yeah he's a gay but he's like a bad gay i think the thing is like even if you don't think you stand nicole scherzinger you do and you would fucking the second she plays buttons you're gonna be like on the floor and also don't you I mean don't you don't you stick with you even

I stan a ballad and stick with you every time what's that song it's funny how man only things about that beep beep

oh my god beep is so good beep is forever and always beep is so good it's actually real culture number 14 beep is forever

and always I think a girl group boat a girl group fiesta it doesn't have to be the boat but it has to girl group fiesta It is so good. It's actually Rural Culture number 14. Beef is forever and always. I think a girl group boat. A girl group fiesta. It doesn't have to be the boat, but it has to be. Girl group fiesta. There's some container for girl groups.

Okay, I mean, maybe it could be a heaven on earth concept. Wow. There you go. But it is a good idea because honestly, and also,

just to revisit Spice World for a second. I've said it on this podcast, but it is a comedic tour de force. Absolutely. It is a great film. It is a comedy, period.

Yes. And it's got a great performance. I say, snub for best supporting actress, Victoria. Victoria Beckham. Yes.

Victoria Adams. Victoria Adams. Sorry. As Posh Spice in Spice World. What are your line reads again that you do? It's,

this dress is dry, clean only, Melanie! Oh my God. That's very good shut up jerry it's because they're playing i spy in the hospital yeah i spy with my little eye something that is blue hospital shut up jerry just so that i can't it's the timing. Wow. The actors. The timing. Also just, you know,

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Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so speaking of this formative, we're talking Spice Girls, so that brings me a little bit back, which makes me want to ask the question, Beau. And we got a little preview of it before we hit record. I mean, I just truly, I know that there's a lot to say about this topic,

so we're going to ask. Beau, take it ahead. Okay. Take it away. Take it away. Take it ahead. Ty, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me?

This is the formative culture that moved your life into a cultural direction, something you latched onto at an imprinting early age. Hanson. Okay. Hanson, yeah. Very good. I feel like that's what I know is gay, too.

Honestly. Yes, explain this. Go. I mean, I feel like when you're, like, young and queer and you don't know that you're queer, like, you're like, oh, I want to be friends with them, but really, like, oh, you have a crush on them and you just, like, don't have the words or, like, you're like, Oh, I want to be friends with them. But really like, Oh, you have a crush on them and you just like, don't have the words or like the, even the concept of that.

You can have a crush on. Was it a boiler? Yeah, of course. Right. But was it that for me, the, the,

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the, the, the, the, the, the, the, queer when they first broke out it was like my first kind of taste of androgyny i know that sounds crazy but it was the long hair yeah my mom was like oh those girls are really pretty i was

like mom those are boys and she was like oh i don't like that and i was just like but mom i was like was it well she liked it until she found out they were boys yeah like what's that about it's big yeah it's so funny because the way my like culture i guess in long island like absorbed handsome was it was like they look like girls and like that means that they must be bad i remember It's big. Yeah. It's so funny because the way my like culture, I guess in Long Island, like absorbed Hanson was, it was like, they look like girls and like, that means that they must be bad. I remember like inherently me as a kid watching Hanson and being like,

I don't like this because I think I want, I really saw in my culture as boys, as boys and girls as girls. And the fact that they had long hair, like through me, but I remember Bob is such a, forgive me, but Bob,

that it was like this music is there's something to it and now with their new iteration you realize it's because they've always been musicians yeah those have been great pop songwriters and musicians they whoever's on the drums slays the fucking drums but i want to say that i'm hansen hansen broke the binary and that's actually rule of culture number 27 hansen broke the binary and that's actually the rule of culture number 27. Hanson broke the binary. Now, because I didn't listen to their album though,

I have to be honest. I only listened to them. I mean, we have an expert here. They have a Christmas album that I still listen to every single Christmas. They have a cover

of Stevie Wonder's That's What Christmas Means to Me. That is my favorite Christmas song after Mariah Carey. Of course. It's so good. And I didn't even know it was a cover

of Stevie Wonder until I was like looking into it and I was like oh that's how it freaks you out but they are legit good musicians I mean that's like I think that they sort of for people that love them and I remember

some older people like some friends of my parents liking them too because I think they threw back to like a family band type thing. Yeah, yes. Which is very relatable to people. But also they were very appealing to a young crowd, obviously, because the melodies were super simple. So strong too. Like, you know what I mean? Like almost Beatles-ish.

Yeah. Where it's like, it's just like you can't help but sing along to this. And that's what I'm saying about their musicianship and now to see them as adult musicians that are still doing it and still creating good work you're like

that's because they've just got it yeah what would it take to like really bring Hanson back into the zeitgeist let's just say for queers

I would want them to like it'd have to be it'd have to be a dance moment I was gonna say dance pop like all the girls can I just say for a minute all the fucking girls are putting out music and none of it is danceable

like who are you trying to appeal to is it just that we're like in an algorithm age where it's like truly it's all about streams it's all about like music that is streamable I think the girls are trying to all say something right now I think the girls are emotional right now

I want escapism. Yes, I hear you. Like pop escapism is my go-to always. Yes. Period. So I think this is such an interesting thing because I am such like a ballad queen. And so the fact that music is in this place right now

actually kind of excites me, though I do love dance music. So when you were younger, let me ask you this because I think this is a definitive question. Was it Britney or Christina for you? Britney. Okay okay and i'm a christina gay okay that is it it is the it is the it is a thing dichotomy yeah yeah i yeah britney and then that was just because because why just it was the dance of it all it is and it still is yeah but even the ballad even

the britney ballads were ballads and good ballads. So I don't think that's like a fully even split. No, I do because it's like Christina was interested in a different kind of entertainment than Britney was. And they both did crossover. You know, Britney had her ballads and we stand some of Britney's ballads. Sometimes for me is a pop forever. Every time one of her only songs that she's credited with writing. I would actually also go move us to say, don't let me be the last to know.

Yeah. I would say shadow. I would say honestly, it's a goofy song, but even later in her career, perfume, I do stand. She sounds a thousand years old on it,

but I do stand. And Christina, I think obviously was giving you some uptempo. Yeah. Moments like, you know, and she gave giving you some up-tempo moments. And she gave you pop star, but at the root of what they were really good at, Britney was giving you some, and to this day, is giving you beats, bops, vibes, like energy.

And Christina's giving you story. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I think that they're such different artists. It's so interesting to see them put together. but because they were together so long for us, I think in your heart, if you really ask yourself, which one am I like, I'm Christina.

Wait, so I'm a Brittany. I think I'm a Brittany. I'm a Brittany. I'm a Brittany. Okay. You're a Brittany. And I know that about you.

Cause I mean, baby one more time was an album that like, it was that and spice world. Yeah. Cause I, I didn't, cause my sister got Spice World first, and this is truly, like, birth order is so interesting for gay men, I'll say, is that, like, if you have an older sister who, like, is able to, like, funnel you her stuff, like, that's your way in culturally. And so, like, the gang, like, would buy all these albums, and, like, I would just, like,

she would buy albums, she would buy, like, Sister of the Traveling Pans, and I would, like, take it from her and read. Yeah. And, like, consume all this albums and like i would just like she would buy albums she'd buy like sister of the traveling pans and i would like take it from her and read yeah and like consume all this but anyway with and by proxy gaga was huge for you so i'm assuming gaga must have like fucking stomped your fucking honestly honestly i didn't love gaga initially wow when was the turn the turn was i saw her live um like right before new year's eve in florida like live like right before New Year's Eve in Florida like it was right before right after Fame Monster come out Fame Monster had been out like one month and I saw her live and I was like wow this is like really fucking good and then Bad Romance

the video came out and I was like oh shit undeniable at that point I feel like with Gaga it's like either Just Dance interests you or it didn't it didn't interest me because at that point in my life, I was very much so like indie and like listening to like blog music. And I was like pop music is to look down upon, blah, blah, blah.

Like I was in like a dark place. I was like, you know, 18 in the closet, first year of college. Mess. Mess. Yeah. For me, the moment that it clicked was love game video where she's fucking like dancing around the subway train and i'm just like oh and or it was just the lyric like disco stick and it was her being like um um you've indicated your interest i'm educated in sex yes and i'm

just like that's the fucking craziest sequence of words yes yeah and so funny and like who the fuck is she she's very cool that was a love game I think was a huge moment people don't talk about love people don't talk about love game people talk about poker face and just dance paparazzi but from from from fame era it's

like love game and a nothing else I can say I'm just like wait you guys gems over here yeah and you do in your in your in we notice when like when we go to your parties you do throw those old deep cut guys some love yeah i mean i mean the fame for me is like such a solid album i think it's it's it's just a great album it's very like gwen stefani so i'm gonna be honest like she was giving me a lot of g on that album. And I love it. Like, boys, boys, boys.

Love boys, boys, boys. Yeah. She was giving you Gwen. When she first came out, the comparisons were Gwen and Christina. Yeah. Right? Remember that? Because she was specifically doing what Christina was hinting at with Bionic.

I remember that was around the same year. But Bionic was after Fame. Keeps getting better. Like, that music video came out, I think, and it was Gaga derivative, and there was this attitude, which is like this new girl who just fucking looks like Christina Aguilera. I remember that moment.

And then I remember the reason Lady Gaga, for me, started to get more credible was because specifically Perez Hilton was like stanning her. And really, that was like you were pro-Perez. Literally, at the time, a lot of us were pro-Perez, I would say. At the time, I was like on Perez Hilton was like stanning her and we really that was like you were pro-Prez literally at the time a lot of us were pro-Prez at the time I was like on Perez Hilton's website

and this is before he said his whole thing I'm like I'm actually gonna be nice now this is when he was being a true cunt yeah like and he was like

calling celebrities like shit stains and farts he used to call Jennifer Aniston Madison this is like Bale Wolf was his name for Beyonce and he would only ever

post pictures of her with her arm up like this so her armpit was showing he was gross and very internalized homophobic I mean he outed celebrities like Patrick Harris famously and one can argue about whether that was I guess quote unquote for the greater good or not but he was

like a militant in being a dick and so the fact that he liked Gaga to you was like a signal. And for me, it was like the fact that he liked Gaga. I was like, I mean, I know she's to be taken seriously now, but I don't trust this.

And so maybe that was part of it too. Oh, that means you're suspicious. Yeah, a little bit. But I also remember it being the moment where I was like, oh, we're going to have to like see this person around.

And I didn't, I, as a person who rejected Just Dance, I was like oh we're gonna have to like see this person around and I didn't I as a person who rejected Just Dance I was like I don't know and he called her the princess of pop and I was like after Just Dance you're gonna call her the princess of pop and then a couple songs later I mean paparazzi is what got me it was like it's pretty true yeah I mean that VMA performance

with the blood was like I should have been a stan immediately but I wasn't yeah I was like, I should have been a stand immediately, but I wasn't. Yeah. I was like, yeah, I wasn't until after bad romance for you. Wow.

And honestly, art pop was the first time I started like really step. Cause you know what I mean? It's like she had an underdog narrative. She did. And then it was, that's honestly what made me like her more is to watch her, watch it kind of spin out of control a little bit. Like the image of it all.

I was like, okay, cool. So this is like a relatability now that i that i need she's messy yeah i don't know that i'm i'm talking as me like a kelly clarkson stan who like needs vulnerability and relatability like that was who i was but remember when roar and applause came out the same day oh yeah that was crazy those tweets are so funny those tweets are very funny but I would say applause has aged better Roar is still

a very good catchy amazing melody I don't play Roar out at the club no you do not actually a lot

of Katy is dance floor ready but it doesn't work people don't stan Katy for some reason what is it

too corny I don't know I'll tell you the first time I've been excited by her in years was Never Really Over and I really love Never, the first time I've been excited by her in years was Never Really Over. And I really love Never Really Over.

I mean, I think it's like, if this is a sign of what's to come from her, I'm like, well, thank fucking God. Just please come back to making simple good pop music. So I'm like a closeted Katie stan. I love her in my private listening. Yes. Like, Birthday.

I'm so good. It's my, whenever I'm sad, I can just listen to Birthday and I'm like in a good mood. And there's a Cheat Codes remix that's really good. Yes. There is.

You know she her Teenage Dream which is I mean iconic you cannot deny I think five generations define it. Five number ones.

Five number ones. So basically Thriller. Thriller. Thriller numbers. It's Thriller level and Whitney Houston level. I mean so basically

Teenage Dream was like 101 on that pitchitchfork list. And I was saying with Ira and Louis on Keep It, like, this just goes to show, like, the people that are making this list consume music differently than me. Because me as a pop music person, that's in the top five for me. Songs of the 2010s, like, that was defining. Okay, why isn't Out Magazine making, like, a real definitive, like, gay list? Thank you. Out, get on it. Yeah, let's

just get like what to, it's when we saw Robin that night at Barclays, when she performed Dancing on My Own, it was just so clear. The whole place. The whole place. Silent. Turning all the lights on. The drama of that, I was like, we are one. Everyone knew that we were singing the

defining song of our generation. And you know how you know. Okay, Lena Dunham. I was going to say, this kind of sucks. But, like, the reason you know it was the defining song of the generation is because, honestly, Girls at that time was the defining TV series of our generation. And then in that one episode, when she's tweeting all adventurous women do, the iconic episode of Girls where she gets HPV and also she has the conversation with Andrew Rannells. That episode

was amazing. And then Dancing on My Own closed it. And her and Alison Williams dance together and they're embracing at the end of the episode. I was like, this song is important. That episode is important. And there's a Song Exploder episode where she talks about writing Honey.

Another great song. I think that's her best song I know that sounds blasphemous but like just on like a on a sensory level like honey? I still want to hear the version that they have in girls I'm like what happened to that version

because they placed a bit of it in the episode where which is just pulled from the audio from the credits but like it doesn't feel right actually i used to think the same thing where it's like sure it should have been dance here it should have been what the girls credit sequence was but um you hear her talk about and she was like i was in a really emotionally raw place like my close collaborator here just passed away and he helped me set up this beat and like he they were just like they called that like you know because the beginning of honey i think is very distinct and recognizable and you can identify it where it's just like no you're not gonna get which and so like she called that like the sauce like that production

was like the sauce and that was like what blanketed you like it's a perfect rave like Molly song I mean also yeah it's a I'll say this when you're on drugs that that song does something to your body it is literally specifically designed to be there for that moment did she open the show with honey or missing you she opened the show with no

it was it was some deep cut off of the album honey it was like I will say that I believe Missing You came first Missing You came first and that set list order is only Rob can do that where she just

she blew it out like a little bit over halfway through the concert and then the rest was just a party that she essentially DJ'd you know what I mean? like danced around she was so cute it was a concert that was essentially DJed. You know what I mean? Like it was like dance around. She was so cute. Yeah. So good.

She was good. It was a concert that was made for poppers. Yes. Yes. It was just like you could bring a cat or whatever. Yeah. Pick your pick your fighter. I mean,

but you know, I was happy to see that like at least pitchfork like when they were making that list, they really respected Robin. Like Robin was all over that list. And I was like, okay, cool. So you're at least hearing us and Run Away With Me by Collie Rae Jepsen

was on the list too which is like you know there's probably one gay at Pitchfork being like guys hi I just want to say like we're not the gay delegate would like to speak and that's important it's very important there's going to be a musical list written there must be gays present in the room

I'm really curious ty and i've thought about this constantly like what like what do you make of this is such a broad question too but what do you make of nightlife now in new york because i think there i think like something very cool is happening i love nightlife and i've always been a nightlife fanboy and i think it's having such a beautiful moment right now and when people say that like nightlife is dead or nightlife is over i want to smash my fucking head against the wall. I'm like, especially like all these old people writing,

you know, articles like, Oh, back in the day it was this, but culture changes in the way we consume culture changes. Yeah. And nightlife is a reflection of culture or it's like where culture begins. And so it's going to change.

It's not going to be the same. We're not going to have studio 54 again. That was a great moment. Okay. Move on. Next thing. Yep. So I think it's having a great moment and i love nightlife and i'm i don't know i'm just excited well and even like it's even rude of people to be like well it's not like how it used to be and these new kids don't have any respect for the yeah for how things were but it's

like you're you're literally throwing a party at webster hall like the first nightclub in the world and like you're throwing a party that is a tribute to the drag parties that would happen there a hundred years ago. Yeah. And it's like you're working with Suzanne. You're working with Lady Fat. It's like, right. Is that accurate?

I don't really work with either of them. But you guys are all so sweet. I love them both so much. Like I look up to everything they've done. You know, if you've seen Suzanne's documentary I still haven't okay you have to it is I cried because you know she has done so much for our community and just so much for the

nightlife as an economy it is like she created this economy that you know people like me benefit from so much so whenever Suzanne you know text me like hey I need a favor I'm there great I'm there that's great because I feel like, and this is what you were saying earlier.

Well, this probably just has to do with why you like escapism and your music is that you're, I mean, nightlife is just, it's an escape. It's an escape. That thing too,

about like people being like, it's not like it was, that's literally a voice that is always going to be there. And the only thing we have for anything, right. The only thing we have, I mean, you know more than anyone, like with SNL of it all,

it's like not what it was. Like with any institution, and nightlife is a New York institution, like there's going to be that not what it was vibe. And the thing is, all we have is the present. So like, let's make sure that we're not those people in the future

and create a good vibe now. Because also those people saying it's not what it was,'re also not at the party exactly you know what i mean so it's like you're also not currently out enjoying it you're invited to the party come to the party always but i also understand that i think it's just a thing of you know even nowadays like certain certain things that happen with the generation that's coming up, certain choices that are made about culture, the way they consume media now, certain things that have become en vogue, I don't really get it. I'm still trying to find Billie Eilish.

You know what I mean? Oh, I love her. Right, right. And so I am finding her in this moment, but it's taken me a minute. Which is surprising to me because I feel like you love, you just ballads and stuff she has so many so much emotion you want to know what it is i didn't know that was there because all i knew was bad guy okay and i heard bad guy and i was like oh if this is indicative of what she's about then i'm not about it then i'll be honest with you i saw her perform on snl that second song i was like i love you there's a lot

more depth here than I think I realized. Which happens to me all the time. With Lorde, it happened to me too. Well, you should listen to the album the whole way through, and then the last track is called Goodbye. And do you know what I'm about to talk about? She just does this long... It's not

long, it's like two minutes, but she just like... It's one melody, and it's one motif, basically, in terms of the production, but she just like it's one melody and it's one like motif basically in terms of the production but she just in reverse order of the tracks on the album pulls little snippets little lyrics little melodies little lines and weaves them all together and ends with bad guys the first technical track the first one is her taking out her Invisalign. But like the last line is her going, I'm a bad guy. It's genius. It's a geniusly constructed album.

And I think if you, like on the plane when you go back to LA tonight, like listen to it the whole way through. Download it, save it offline. Listen to it the whole way through. Just pay attention because I think it's a good plane album because it puts you to sleep if you want it to.

And I am looking for those. It's a great album to put you to sleep to. But if you want it to. And I am looking for those. It's a great album to put you to sleep to. But if you can stay with it for the 11, 12 tracks. When we all fall asleep, where do we go? Where do we go?

But the last track is what made it all click for me. Literally. I mean, it seems like too simple and deceptively like artful, but it is like, she literally weaves one melodic thing out of the entire album.

It's genius. she's captivating everyone right now because like obviously but like i'm talking about older people too she was just i just started driving in la so i have a serious streaming like free subscription so i listen to howard stern she was on howard stern she did a like an hours long interview with howard stern and she kept up with them and it was all it was equals talking wow it was crazy it was like she was so smart yeah and her brother was there too that she like i guess works with exclusively they're collaborators yeah and it's very cool to watch how proud he is of her like you know and every like 17 she's so young and so to listen to her just kind of be unfazed by talking to this

like you know intimidating like titan of media of media owns so much of that space. Like, and he's also so like aggressively adult for her to be like, he can be like, he has a history of being like predatory towards women, which is great, which is why we love him. But it's like,

that's how he is. But she went in there and she was, he had people calling in afterwards being like, I like her. And I, it was just, she's obviously got staying power honestly though

but this makes me think of Gaga whenever she goes on Howard fantastic interviews fantastic interviews that's what I'm saying Gaga too I mean that's I think that

when they come out with their first singles it's always like you always judge who the fuck are you and you know so think about it Gaga's first single was Just Dance and that was like you know it definitely was a hit like katie perry's first single was

i kissed a girl like you're so gay oh yeah i was that was a huge hit but i was like you're a one hit wonder yeah but it's like i mean she was on the vans warp tour i was like yeah okay that's where she literally came from like her with like an asymmetrical haircut like on the warp tour bitch right hipster well i'm curious so this is i think we had the same sort of timeline in terms of coming out of the closet in terms of and in terms of sonically like accepting it i think because i would be on all the fucking like said the gramophone or whatever like indie websites and like downloading tracks and listening to any music. Hype Machine. Hype Machine. I was going to say Hype Machine. I loved Hype Machine. Hype Machine's still around.

I still have MP3s that I downloaded from Hype Machine that I play out. Oh my God. Because there were some real gems and like it was kind of like the algorithm was set up nicely because they would just surface

like the top tracks of the week or whatever and they would be like you couldn't download them on iTunes. They were like specific remixes sometimes. Hype Machine and then like last I would scrabble on Last.fm all the time and make would be like you couldn't download them on iTunes they were like specific remixes sometimes Hype Machine and then like Last

I would scrabble on Last.fm all the time and make sure that like I was signaling that I was listening to like Radiohead

and whatever all this stuff but I feel like when I came out of the closet was around the same time that like I was living

with my sister in college and she was like chaperoning me being in the closet because I had just gone through conversion therapy

and my parents said you can go to NYU as long as you live with your sister because she will like protect you she will be our eyes and ears yeah um but then like circus by britney spears came out and both of us were like because both of us listened to listen to britney growing up and we were like oh my god let's listen to womanizer and she was being like she's kind of my brother's gay she's like i guess my brother's gay, but this is nice. And we're listening to the same music and we're enjoying the same things. And so that like 2008, 2009 was like the moment

when it shifted. But you're saying it was like maybe a year after, a year after that. I didn't like really come out until Femme Fatale. If we're talking about Britney, if we're talking about Britney, like, yeah. And so what were your first,

like, so I'm, this is a weird weird question but do you remember like the first artists albums songs that you like truly like fused into your body and ready yeah go only girl in the world rihanna great when that came out i was like yeah i'm gay it's like that's like what it is like i love this music yeah and you know i'm accepting myself like i just transferred from a state school in florida to purchase and i was like i'm gay i'm starting a new life in new york i'm gay wow for me that was dancing on my own that i know the moment you're talking about it and rihanna did have such a moment there it's around the same way so then like honestly i was gonna bring up what's my name like that's a song that i feel is erased today like that was a huge moment did that come out before only girl it was only girl in the world was the first single and What's My Name? That's a song that I feel is erased today. That was a huge moment.

Did that come out before Only Girl in the World? It was Only Girl in the World was the first single and then I believe What's My Name was followed it. But then Only Girl in the World became a number one after the other one was already a number one. Something like that. I think it was just that loud album. Oh, the red hair. The looks.

That was a Rihanna moment S&M, Raining Men, California King Bad Skin the song cheers to that an Avril Lavigne sample are you kidding me crazy no but then the what's my name what's my name the song structure the pre-chorus is

I think my favorite part of the song she's that boy when I see you if you can go like an incredible melody. Wow. Okay. Does that question make sense though? It does. Like that moment

when you were like, now I can celebrate the gayness within me a little bit by really liking this. Yes. Yeah. I mean,

that Only Girl in the World is still my favorite Rihanna song for that reason. And I play it all the time. I mean, I played it at Devil's Playground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like,

it might not be everyone's go-to Rihanna, but it's my go-to Rihanna. Also, the ballad queen in me, like, stabbed California King Ballad. Yes. I mean, I can tell

you are that queen that would look at me every time I was at a party putting on a ballad and be like, you gotta stop. Next. She blew out her damn voice

on that on the recording. I mean, sounds, it's like, okay, Riri, like, thousand miles apart! You can hear her praying. She would never do that now. No, no, she would.

On higher, she, like, fucking scrawls. Oh, I mean, fully. You can hear her have a hemorrhage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do y'all think we're getting music by the end of the year? I do. Didn't she say she was? Yeah. She keeps saying shit, though. Yeah. That's Rihanna. Rihanna will say shit whatever whatever she wants to say you saw that video where she was like she's like she lied yeah she knows i mean i i

but i do that i was reading that i was reading the recent like i think it was a vogue piece on her yeah really good piece on her and she talks she gets really into politics oh the one that guy where the guy was like i didn't have questions for you. Sorry, I'm not ready. Yes. Well, what happened was she moved the interview up. And he showed up and was like, I'm going to wing it. And she was like, whatever, cool. It wasn't like a super serious thing.

And he did get a great interview out of her. Oh, that's good. For what it's worth. But she is really, really candid. And she's just, it's that thing of she's kind of hinting at new music, but there's a moment where he asks. And he says, he details in the article about how she gets a moment in her eyes like, why did you ask that? Because my fans are going to kill you now. It's bad that you asked that because now I'm going to like have to go on record and say something. And then I'm going to get roasted if I don't follow up on that.

Because the Navy is out there. A lot. It's the opposite of what Gaga's doing, which is basically her tweeting back in March. Yeah, I'm pregnant. No, the specific words are rumors. Rumors I'm pregnant? Yeah, I'm pregnant. Pregnant with L to hashtag LG6.

So dumb. Last week, my next album will be called Adele. Who I also think we're going to, I mean, they say we're going to get another album from her this year, which I thought she was thinking a 50-year retirement or something. She got divorced. Divorce happens. Or separation. Or separation, yes.

And then Fiona, which I know is not the same level of stand-up. I couldn't. I have no vocabulary for... You have to. Ballads! This doesn't make sense.

You just said you were a ballad queen and you don't know Fiona Apple. You know what? I don't know. I'm a series of contradictions. I will say... Sounds like a scam. Because it's the fall,

because I'm experienced in the fall right now, I am listening'm a series of contradictions. I will say, I've been, because it's the fall, because I'm, I'm experienced in the fall right now. I am listening to a lot of Adele because I'll always think of her synonymous with leaves everywhere. Sure. Sure. That video. Yeah.

The sepia tone, big coat of it all. Yeah. Uh huh. For sure. A big, a big coat. A big sad coat.

Do you remember seeing her on like VH1 when she had like chasing pigments? Yes. A song I stan stand did she have a a beehive too like like um amy she was very much doing i think so like i'm from england yes yeah she did she had like a hair bump and she had the bangs and she was at the time i remember she was a lot heavier yeah so i think that's why they were leaning into sort of a like more matronly look because she was a lot heavier and you I think that's why they were leaning into sort of a like more matronly look because she was a lot heavier and you know,

something that I'm actually happy people don't talk about because I'm happy we're not putting the emphasis on this, but she has definitely, her, her aesthetic has changed. Yeah. She is now up. It's a big glow up.

It's certainly a glow up. Absolutely. She has transformed. And now I look at her and I'm like, no, it's so funny because we got to know her for her incredible voice and the way she articulates music but she's

stunning. She is a gorgeous presence to look at. Yes. You have to get into Fiona. You should start with either wheel and then do title. I mean I have a vocabulary for criminal. You know what one of my favorite stories of the past few months is?

Is J-Lo? Is J-Lo calling up Fiona Apple and being like, can we use criminal in the movie Hustlers? And Fiona being like, yeah. She had never licensed it before for anything. I had no idea. This is news to me.

Yeah, it's pretty great. So they were saying, J-Lo had an idea on set. She was like, it would be fun if this beginning song where I strip, I did it to Criminal. Oh, that's so, yeah. And they were like, we feel like Why Ask Fiona is famously difficult, et cetera. She called, and Fiona was like, yeah, for sure.

And it's not that Fiona's difficult. She just did a really good interview in Vulture where everyone's like, where the interviewer was like, so what do you make of people saying that you have this reputation for being so distant and aloof and sequestered? And she's just like, no, I just, i just she's like yes i never leave my house but like i don't have a relationship with my managers where they tell me what people are asking like they just like stockade me in every single way and she's like i'm happy to like give my songs to people i just like normally don't like to be mired in that and but when j-lo calls you pick up yeah so anyway um i think hustlers so good so good right can we talk about it for a second let's talk about it my feeling about

hustlers is it actually for me um there was a lot of hype and it actually uh it it it was gay twitter was like freaking out about it and i was like oh god i'm gonna hate it but then what did you like it i loved it I loved it I always tend to um any movie with gimme more sold yes and I especially because the way JLo reacted this is my fucking song same same that's me

I mean and and just it's shocking how fun it was to watch you forget that movies can be like that and then I'll tell you what's so frustrating is you read all the articles about it and you find out it was to watch. You forget that movies can be like that. And then I'll tell you what's so frustrating is you read all the articles about it and you find out it was hard to get made. It's like, I'm sorry, but what about this?

When this movie was getting marketed, I was like, this to me is the biggest slam dunk ever. Like you have J-Lo, you have Cardi B. I needed more Cardi. Can I say? It was a cameo. She needed a full role. I mean, she is a natural.

But she stole her scenes. She knows how to act. Yeah. She absolutely, I mean, was she really acting? No. And that's the thing. She absolutely knows how to deliver star quality. No, but when she was getting in that argument with that man at the bar, do you know what

I'm talking about? Sure. I was like, okay, she's like acting, reacting. Well, she was certainly having emotions on camera. We can say that. Yeah. And it pops. And you're like, okay, she's like acting, reacting. Well, she was certainly having emotions on camera. We can say that. Yeah, and it pops and you're like, okay, I want more. I don't care. I don't care.

What her fucking, I don't care like how she gets to this headspace of acting in front of a camera. She's good at it. She was really good at this scene with all the girls backstage. Like when she was like taunting everyone, I was like, this is obviously someone who's lived this experience and she's bringing it to the screen. Yes. Yes. And also let's just say for your consideration,

Jennifer Lopez, give it up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Give it up because guess what?

Like, I believe that there's not many people on this planet that could have given you the star quality that that character needed to have. Yes. That she is to put it in these words, doing what the other girls won't do. that could have given you the star quality that that character needed to have. Yes, yes. That she is, to put it in these words, doing what the other girls won't do. And can't do. And can't do.

And showing what the other girls should have did. Should have did, yeah. You're right, and you needed to believe that that character was gonna like, had a gravitational pull. Effortlessly manipulate everyone. Yes. And also be able to physically pull that off. Yes.

And look like that. Oh, she looked great. Oh my God. The woman is 50 years old. And I get that she's in a financial position. Of course, I'm not saying like people should look like this at 50. She's in a financial position to be able to make herself look that way. And she cares about that obviously

and has the space and time but give it up because not for nothing but she's had decades long career yes and she makes a ton of fucking money for the industry and if the oscars is about like let's celebrate good performances and also like you know pat itself on the back like sorry but get your nose out of your out of the air and like understand that like that's someone who makes a fuck ton of money for the industry and like don't spit in her face on oscar morning do not on the on the morning is when they on the morning because she needs the nomination and then i feel like everyone will be happy no one's saying she's gonna win right yeah right right. How could you say that?

I think you should book J-Lo for Pride. Probably impossible. J-Lo Bo would be good, too. J-Lo Bo would be good. J-Lo does have bops, yeah. That's why the Super Bowl doesn't shock me at all. Yeah. Oh, Shakira, too.

We love. That's so exciting. And it's in Miami, too, I think. Yeah. Genius. We talk about Florida more, because this is basically a Florida boy. So were you central?

What part of Florida were you in? So I grew up in hollywood florida which is like right north of miami and then i did two years in orlando at ucf oh yeah and what was orlando like for you because we're orlando queens as you know i love orlando but i hated my time at ucf i was like deep in the closet i was like working at urban outfitters i was like dream back then right and that was the goal that was like all you want to do is work at urban outfitters and like be included in like that cool club yeah um i was going to like indie bars and like getting really into like new order and stuff because like that's what i bar i bar and back booth uh-huh and i was like so into that culture and then i just that's how i got into like dance music and everything was just like going out to these places and hearing it.

And cause you can go to clubs in Orlando at 18. So I was going every single fucking weekend. Yeah. It's all the clubs are 18 up. So this to me is like to be closeted in Orlando at that time must've been kind of brutal because I would almost compare it to New York because I was closeted here for a year. Like Orlando was a pretty gay city. Oh yeah.

Very gay. Like every time i go down there i'm always struck by how gay the culture is like um i remember i was down there one time for my sister's graduation i was at um university of south florida oh yeah um so tampa tampa like close to saint pete and i went on grinder and it was absolutely happening yeah like it was it was popping off great and i was just like so that must've been like a kind of tough place to be closeted. Well, I wasn't even at that point.

I hadn't even accepted that I was gay. It's like, I didn't check grinder. I didn't like think of going to gay bars or anything. And like at the time my roommate was like, do you want to go to a gay bar? Like obviously she knew I was gay and I didn't even know I was gay. You know,

she was trying it. She was. Yeah. Yeah. But then like, what was that? And like finally you just left because you were just like, you know? She was trying it. She was, yeah. Yeah. But then like, what was it? And like, finally you just left because you were just like, I'm done.

Ready? Okay, so the summer in between my freshman and sophomore year, I came up to New York because I took an improv intensive at the Magnet Theater. Yes! Ty, as a short, not a short form queen, but you're an improv queen.

You took improv classes. I used to, yeah, yeah. At UCB ever? So I signed up for 101 recently. Because like, UCB's like so intimidating. I like, I don't know. At UCB ever? So I signed up for 101 recently. Because UCB is so intimidating. I don't know. Oh, 100%. In the beginning.

I was a theater kid in high school, so I've always loved improv. And I came to New York, so I was like, I need to just go do something. Get out of Florida for a bit. And I came to an intensive, and Level 3 was taught by Armando Diaz.

It was really cool. Oh my God, Armando taught you? Yeah. Wow. So I was there for my birthday, birthday and on my birthday it was my 19th birthday armando was going around just like telling stories of like tina fey and like you know chicago back in the day like i was like oh my god this is so cool i was like okay i have to get to new york so i figured out how to get to new york i came to purchase and then i didn't follow up on improv I became a DJ that's but that's so funny in another life I know but I'm saying and this is a disgusting pitch and please shoot it down but I feel like there's there's some capacity there's room for like a Ty Sunderland sanctioned not an

yes no like some comedy event with Ty like I want to. That's what I want to do. Imagine if I got back into the improv scene and just had fun shows where it was like, I have Amanda Lepore come and do a monologue. Oh, God. A guest monologist. It's asking to be created. Right?

It is. This thing. The worlds of music and the worlds of dance and the worlds of comedy, there's a moment there because you can create an amazing live event out of all of those things what's like bonnaroo and shit there's like there's like a comedy but it's not quite structured like that but i'm saying like and not even it's not even a festival but it's kind of close to what i'm

imagining i want i want if if i can help make it happen that'd be great but like i want something where it's just like gathering of queer people and there's music dance comedy some some kind of thing where people can just like yeah feel included and not have to and just like choose how they want to engage with 100 with what they want to do i have a question about orlando so when you're there this is just a question for me the social center is it like actually the theme parks or no way no way because literally when I was on Grindr and this is why I asked

the question when I was on Grindr every gay guy on Grindr if you click on their like info like what they like to do it's all pictures of them at the theme parks there's so many Disney gays that like moved to Orlando to do it's all pictures of them at the theme parks and it's like there's so many disney gays that like moved to orlando to be near you know the action that's honestly yeah the part of my there's a part of my personality which is that wow and so we've resisted it so far but like when i was down there i was like god like this is like something that like in a in a

like upside down stranger things universe like i am this am this like Disney gay who's like and on my Saturdays I go to Epcot and I drink around the world there's definitely those gays they exist they're out there and I love them and I say hello to them but you're literally opening up Grindr like at fucking Port Caribbean or Port Orleans

sorry Port Orleans but I guess you might be right you're on the property you idiot you're not out in the city stupid it is the dumbest question i've ever asked sorry honestly they're big parks so i didn't know like also it's like a lot of people work there well no one really lives around there it's all hotels yeah like like you live in like kissimmee or you live like near downtown no one lives in the Cinderella castle? I'm an idiot for a price

it's a hotel now you can't stay there it's a suite, it's like the Cinderella suite why would you want to stay there? I don't know to stay in a castle I think it is nice to stay in a castle in theory but it's also like

you're staying in a theme park there's thousands of people around you also the disney wedding of it all is truly scary you guys like how much people will pay to get married in disneyland i'm like this is where i'm sort of embarrassed to be like out here like lol i'm a disney gay it's because like the way that that can be taken is like so far okay okay I've always wanted to do gay days though. Yeah, I mean, that looks fun. I heard it's kind of a fucking come bucket. If you guys do gay days, I will do gay days.

Honestly, let's go. Let's go. Yeah, let's go. I went. I heard it's a moment. So Michael Hartney and I went two dunes ago. We just happened to be there for some improv everywhere thing.

And we were in Orlando. And then we were just like, we had a date. We went went to pandora had just opened up we went to animal kingdom it was in the middle of gay days all it is you guys you wear matching t-shirts and you travel in a group together and that's it maybe you're on drugs god bless literally sounds fun i had a and like you might like make eye contact super intense at one point but that's like every gay space exactly sure but i had a manager at my restaurant a long time ago tell me oh yeah you gotta go down to disney gets because everyone's just having sex everywhere i was like that's not it can't be she's like yeah everyone's having sex over there over there over there it's

everywhere and it was a woman telling me this and i was like how do you know she's like i got lots of friends that went i was like i don't think they were telling you the truth you can't have sex in disney even if it's like a day designated for gays you can't just be fucking and it's not even like officially it's not like all of a sudden become a fuck fest because like you open it up to mostly gay. It's like there's still kids there. It still closes at 10. Oh my God. Oh my God.

We should do gay days. Yeah. I would love. And also I am a season pass holder. And oh, he's, he has, of course you are ASP. What is it? You've been there like a week, two weeks. I've been there for like three weeks and I already have a season pass.

I can report that I have been. And luckily now I'm dating someone that also identifies as someone who likes to go. Not as a full-blown Disney guy. He would be furious if I said that about him. But you're proselytizing. You're going to make it happen. I think it's time.

I think it's time. I think it's time for I Don't Think So, Honey. I Don't Think So, Honey. This is the segment of our show. We take one minute to rail against something in culture. It's something in culture that we're saying, you know what? Not this. Not this, please.

And I have something. I have something, too. Should I go first? Let's go first. Let's have you go first. That's what I meant. I'm ready. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now.

I don't think so, honey, what Spotify thinks. Oh. So sometimes I'll be listening to a certain song and then Spotify will start thinking for itself and it'll suggest something to come after. On my way over here, I was listening to Jessie J, Thunder, because I do, it's a forgotten bop

and I recently spoke about how it was a forgotten bop. And then the following song that came after that, and I don't think so, honey, would I ever want to hear this, but was literally a sound effect of thunder for three minutes. And I thought to myself I ever want to hear this? But was literally a sound effect of thunder for three minutes. And I thought to myself, hmm, what about this? 30 seconds.

Just because Spotify was so fucking dumb. Spotify used its dumb brain to say, hmm, Thunder by Jesse J. He's going to want to hear the literal sounds of thunder. I don't know why it's on Spotify. It is. I don't think so, honey. Spotify, if you're so smart, like, and you know the playlist I want, like, listen to the kind of song I'm listening to and then serve me that if i'm listening to jesse j then give me

i don't know like kylie minogue or something or something of that ilk i feel that spotify is starting to take too much of an active role in my life i don't think so honey i can make my own choice and that's one minute can i offer something i think what happened was it was not an algorithm like discover weekly playlist i think you searched in the search bar, Thunder. And can I tell you something? This is what happened. This is what happened. And it just made it.

And then the order. Can confirm. Okay, so. So it was more me being an idiot. Actually, Spotify is really good at creating playlists crafted to your mood. Also, seasonal playlists on Spotify. If you want to hear the recent chart toppers, listen to our chart toppers

playlist on Spotify and also Country Hits. That's really good. I do listen to Country Hits. That's my Spotify voice. That's really good. That's really good. Whatever.

That's the same white girl voice that's on like Wendy Williams that's like, after this, RuPaul spills the tea on everything that's gagging and slaying.

Not Wendy. That would be like Kelly Ripper. After this, Janet Mock slays us with her knowledge. What's gonna happen when Suzanne Barsh comes in to stomp our necks? Kelly Ripper and Suzanne

Barsh, can you imagine? Titus Burgess comes in and belts his goddang face off. Slay mama. Slay mother. Continue to slay. I'm Debra. That woman, Debra.

Also on E, it's always like, will Kim Kardashian turn it out on the gig? Yeah. It's really bad. Okay, so Bowen Yang, are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. This is Bowen Yang's, I don't think so, honey. His Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey

His time starts now I don't think so honey Marquise It is A A safety hazard To have someone Take out a ladder And a bunch of

Transparent letters And have to walk And go all the way up there And change it to You know Some stupid thing Like Casey Musgraves At the

At the beacon No you're putting A person's life in danger By doing that Secondly There are screens now. Ever heard of LCD, honey? LCD, right? LEDs. LED, babe. Look,

there are screens now, and you can put pictures on those screens. LCD. And you can make so many fun things on screens. 30 seconds. The diodes can shine all kinds of light and make a picture, and it shines and it glows in the dark, and you don't have to fucking put fluorescence behind the thing. And you know what,

Marquis? 15 seconds. You remind us of what showbiz used to be like. And may I remind you back in the day, rape would happen. It still happens now, but back then it was more prevalent and people would not speak up about it. So Marquis,

you're a reminder of how dark Hollywood, the underbelly of Hollywood used to be. That's one minute. And I love that you ended on rape. I love you. Absolutely. Okay. I will say about Marquees.

When I saw my name on the Marquee at Webster, I, I was freaking out. I was really nervous. I saw that. I was really nervous. No, I mean,

you earned it. You earned it. Well, thank you. But it's scary. No, it's scary it's like sold out ty sunderland webser hall what amazing that's what makes me nervous the word sold out yeah because once you know that someone is paid yeah it's like not just someone being like sure i'll go to this it's someone who said to themselves i'm gonna spend money on the event yeah and that's when you don't want these people to be unhappy well when i'm whenever i'm coming with an event and i'm like we're trying to like figure out prices to make everything you know pay

everybody and have everything work i'm like god would i pay this amount of money to go to this i can confirm that it's worth every fucking dollar it's worth every fucking dollar every time i have that conversation with myself all the time yeah you know some circuit parties are like $100 tickets $150 tickets for like a random Saturday night I'm like no we're charging $20 tickets to like a comedy show and I'm like no way yeah I'm from the UCB school of like

isn't it supposed to be free $5 isn't it supposed to be $5 to see 90 minutes of improv like $20 tickets I'm like there's gotta be a mistake we can tell everybody no matter your means going to a Tice Underland event is

always worthwhile I mean truly like we like we hype it up like among our among our group chats we're always like oh we got it we got to go to Tice thing and then we're gonna buy an

outfit we're gonna do this and that and that and it's a whole thing yeah I don't know anyone that's not excited when you have something and here's I'm excited for what he

has in this regard which is that on I don't think so, honey. Yes, this is, I'm very excited. Okay, mine is silly, but we love that. We love silly. This is Ty Sunderland's I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Health food's covered in plastic. Like, seriously, like, I'm just trying to enjoy a salad.

Now I have all this plastic guilt. Like, what do I do with it? Do I have to, like, go home and wash it out and then recycle it? Recycling is so complicated, too. too like what are we even doing with this why why is there no one system where it's like oh everyone knows how to do it they're teaching us the fucking like pythagorean theorem but we don't know how to recycle what is going on in these fucking schools i just want to enjoy my salad enjoy my fresh cut fruit without feeling like oh my god i'm like polluting yeah you know i can't 30 seconds i get fries in like a fucking paper carton why can't i get a salad in a paper oh my god what is going on

and paper yeah like what is going on i just want some health food i'm gay i need a salad and plastic and that's plastic it's the fucking worst too and can i say i'm also delivery we got to come up with a better way to deliver food like it's always covered in plastic Plastic. And that's. Plastic gets the fucking worst too. And can I say, I'm also delivery. We got to come up with a better way to deliver food. Like it's always covered in plastic. And I'm just always like, I'm the fucking worst. Anyway, I'm going to eat this sushi. And that's one minute.

Wow. Okay. So you know what? Honestly, the hypocrisy has been attacked here today. And I'm very appreciative of it. I wish it was music related. Like we talked so much about music. I was like, I should have done a music one. No, I mean, honestly. We'm very appreciative of it. I wish it was music related like we talked so much about music I was like I should have done a music one. No I mean honestly

we talked too much about it. I constantly am confronting especially now with so much talk about the climate as we need to have and in LA where it's like you're so much more acutely aware of like how dangerous shit is because of the forest fires literally every 15

minutes and the air pollution is truly bad like I'm always thinking to myself like and it seems like you never get a single straw in la like la seems to be aware of it in a way that maybe new york is sure i believe it i believe but it's like i constantly am thinking like what are we doing to harm the environment which is good but it's also like me not getting a bag is not saving the fucking world right you know like we need large systemic change if we're actually gonna be like it's not some bootstrap sort of thing like oh gotta get climate change yeah fixed yeah yeah you know it's what liz warren said one time she was like she was like you like not buying straws is not the problem it's the fucking people at the top who are creating this for everybody yeah because

it's like you know you're exactly right it needs to start in big, big, big ways, which is why I'm so repelled by, like, this idea that, like, we need a centrist to bring us together. It's like, no, we need, like, incredible, like, systemic mandated change literally right now. Yeah. And I would even go as far as to say, and I think what Liz Warren was talking about,

which she was like, they want you to be talking about fucking straws. They want you to be like, yeah, it's such a distraction. It's like, they want you to feel like you're making some change that actually has, is,

has a negligible effect on all of this. So anyway, wow, we're so woke. How much is she killing it right now? Oh, she's lover. Yeah.

Love her. I mean, y'all sketch last night was so good. Oh, that was a sweet green friend. Let's be joint. It really was great. I thought that was such'all's sketch last night was so good. Oh, that was a sweetie green Fran Gillespie joint. It really was great. I thought that was such an amazing. The Sasha moment.

Oh my God. It truly was. It did feel like a real, those little moments, like having Billy Porter there. It was a real reach out to the queer community. Be like, hi, there's people here that are like writing.

Yes. That are involved in your community. Yes, yes. But yeah, I'm trying my best to make small changes, Beau. Look, if Jane Fonda can get arrested... With her granddaughter.

With her granddaughter. Oh, my, that's so sweet. She moved her ass to D.C. I love that. To be in the middle of the fight. She said she's gonna stay there until fucking after Christmas. Good for her. No, I'm saying, that's pretty huge. No, it is fight. She said she's going to stay there until fucking after Christmas. Good for her.

No, I'm saying that's pretty huge. No, it is huge. She's like, Greta's inspiring me so much. I'm moving to DC. I'm staying here till whatever. Good Jane. Wow, that's a really good Jane. It's a little bit of Cher and her teeth are hitting her tongue in the wrong way.

But that's Jane. Like I said, I said to you before. Grace and Frankie Boots. Grace and Frankie Boots. Grace and Frankie Boots. Grace and Frankie Boots. Grace and Frankie Boots. So I said to Bowen before, last night I fell down an Ann Curry wormhole.

And I eventually hit, like when there was no more Ann Curry content, I finally hit like Megyn Kelly and I was just like, oh, fuck her. But I did watch her interview

with Jane Fonda. Oh, and Jane's amazing in it. And she asked Jane Fonda like what about your plastic surgery what about that we're gonna talk about that you wanna talk about this no and then there was like a whole feud between them and I'm like Jane Fonda is

rule of culture number 77 Jane Fonda is period is is the verb and there's no object and you know who else is Ty Sundheim Ty um

I we were really looking forward to this and we were talking about it for months I was so excited I was looking forward to this too we've been like you truly

created all the best nights of our summer and I mean I really appreciate that it was like it was like a very it was a like

big summer for us and we like definitely it still all your parties managed to be the highlight such really appreciate it was like it was like a very it was a like big summer for us and we like definitely it still all your parties managed to be the highlight such thank you an incredible like thing that you do they were like 10 polls for us i think because it was it was crazy summer for us a lot of change was happening matt was sort of planning out his la move a lot of stuff was going on we were just like okay you know what let's just like make sure fun summer and yours you were an incredible huge part of that.

Yes. And I'm sure that every old queer out there is kind of just absolutely feeling the same way. We're very excited to see you on your way out. I always love hearing it, so thank you. Yes. You'll hear it for a very long time from us, I'm sure. And please go check out Ty's events. Love Prism, Heaven on Earth, Devil's Playground in Valencia.

Can I plug New Year's Eve? Yes. Okay, ready? It'll be announced in a couple weeks. So New Year's Eve, I have a venue confirmed with a 24-hour liquor license. So it is going to be from 9 p.m. until noon the next day. Selling liquor the entire time, all 15 hours. And the theme is Y2K Rave.

Oh, yes. So it is me and my daughter, Lennox, producing it. Lennox! And so basically, it's going to be starting asnox producing it and so basically it's gonna be starting as like a 90s party like it's 1999 but then at midnight the world ends

and it becomes a trance rave wow we love that genius genius is there a date when tickets go on sale for that middle of November

okay cool I gotta get through Halloween I know right okay so are you gonna be in New York all of Halloween yes I will be in New York all of Halloween I'm not doing anything major

I'm doing something with Shangela and Vanjie on York all of Halloween yes I will be in New York all of Halloween I'm not doing anything major I'm doing something with Shangela and Vanjie on Halloween proper great and then I'll be doing a party after but

love that wow the man the man the myth the man the myth the LeHond LeHond

we end every episode with a song we sure do so I wait for you to call and I try to act natural. Have you been thinking about her about

me? Do we know the song? It's Perfume by Britney Spears. Let's go to the end of the chorus. I'll never tell myself, but I hope he smells my perfume. Okay, so you're not, so what we're doing right now is you're saying you're a Britney game,

you're disrespecting Britney. No, no, no, no, no, but the actual, what I was trying to get to was, I put on, I put on my perfume. And I thought you wanted to go all the way to the end, and here you were tricking me up. Go ahead. Disaster. Take it solo.

It's a bad song. I refuse. It's a terrible song. It's a bad song. I wanted it all over you. We're going to go. Bye. Forever.

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