Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Is It Botox or Utah?" (w/ Casey Wilson & Danielle Schneider)

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

"Powerful" is a word that one could use to describe this episode of Las Culturistas, in which Matt & Bowen are finally joined by Bitch Sesh's gorgeous duo Casey Wilson and Danielle Schneider to touch grass, praise Mandy Moore, speak on forgiveness and vulnerability in a very Brene manner and ruminate on the concept of "hope". Also, all things RHOBH, RHOSLC, RHOP. Kathy Hilton: what's the deal there? Which of the franchises is the *darkest*? Is it better to interact with Housewives in the wild or simply not think of them as human? All this, OG soap operas, female character actresses living out loud, White Lotus season 2, The Vow season 2, The Mole, and more. Do you think psychics and mediums are to be believed? Do you want to see another trip where the Housewives ski? Would you use a gift certificate from a dog therapist to see a wizard? So many questions. *Some* answers. ALL fun. An honor to host these two! Love!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to dudes on dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. On Thanksgiving Day 1999, five-year-old Cuban boy Elian Gonzalez was found off the coast of Florida.

And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Look, Matt.

Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.

Ding dong. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Well, first of all, it is a great prosperous moment in the culture. It's a great landmark day in world culture. It is the birthday of Bowen Yang. And Rebecca Romijn. And Rebecca Romijn. Emma Stone.

Emma Stone. I think Ethan Hawke. Shut up. It's a good birthday. And myself, not including myself. I'm saying a lot of great people who we love and admire. Share a day with me. Wait, there's one more that's like a huge November.

Sally Field. Sally Field. Yes. Sally Field. Sally Field. And I was just with Sam at brunch. I'm broadcasting live from the Palm Springs Ace Hotel. I'm broadcasting live from Hotel Chelsea.

Haunted place. Now talk about that. Is it sort of... Sid Vicious killed his girlfriend here. You're kidding me. That asshole. That asshole. What an asshole. Such a jerk. Amanda Lepore lives here, Patti Smith, Ryan Adams wrote a song about Hotel Chelsea,

but we don't like him anymore. After what he did to Mandy. More. Unforgivable. No, and you can't cross Mandy. It's actually a rule of culture. It's a lost culture is this thing. Unforgivable. No. And you can't cross Mandy. It's actually a rule of culture. It's a Las Culturistas thing. Like, it's a rule of culture. If you cross Mandy, you cross us.

What rule number is that? Two. That was rule culture number two. That's way up there. It's so important. You know, I would like to have Mandy more on the podcast. I have so many things to ask her. We need to get Adam Shankman to like send in some questions and have it be like a pseudo walk to remember reunion. Because I told Adam Shankman

myself, I said the DVD commentary of a walk to remember it's Adam Shankman, Mandy Moore and Shane West. You've said this before. The three of them are having a blast laughing at Daryl Hannah's wigs. It is a hoot and a half and and the three of them love each other, you can tell. Wait, hold on. Something that gets lost in the conversation about A Walk to Remember is Daryl Hannah's wigs. Oh my God, wow. That needs to be more of a topic in everyday culture.

People don't talk about it. Daryl Hannah's wigs from that old movie from 1999-2000. I feel like A Walk to Remember was one of the last times where Christian culture and gay culture intersected. And then since then, it's just been a diverging path. Well, you know what I'll always remember about I Walk to Remember? It was late

afternoon that lasted forever and ends so soon. Wait, what are vocalists? A vocalista. Mandy Moore? Oh my god. The tangled reprises. I'm talking about the reprises. Oh, what a vocalist. A vocalista. Mandy Moore? Oh my God.

The tangled reprises. I'm talking about the reprises. Oh, forget it. Mother Knows Best and When Will My Life Begin. Oh, don't even get me started now. I'm rock hard thinking about the second reprise of That's When My Life Begins. Good luck to everyone in this hotel. She literally touches grass.

Sorry to use that term from the internet for the first time and sings. It's the perfect musical theater moment. Her emotions are so strong that she has to sing. She has no other choice. Hitting the pause button. Smack. What is touches grass?

Oh, it's like when someone's like too online. You're like, you should go and touch grass. I'm really happy I know that now because I'll use that a lot. But it's already on its way out. People are already using it too much. Well, shit. I just fell in love with it.

You just fell in love with it? It's like what Eva Longoria says in Desperate Housewives. But we've already fallen in love with her! Oh my God. It's just like that. That was a great arc. Speaking of Housewives. I was just talking about Desperate Housewives the other day, actually. It's due for a comeback. I can feel it. I can feel the groundswell of

Desperate Housewives culture making a huge return. Yeah, because I'll tell you what's back. Funny satire. Funny. It's been gone, and now it's back. Funny satire. Funny. It's been gone and now it's back. We need social suburban satire now. Although I don't think they can reboot it because can you really give

Felicity Huffman a job now? Major criminal. Big felon. Huge Hollywood felon. Felicity Huffman. But I think she released one of the better Hollywood apologies in the last five years. You think this way i thought her apology was nice and messed up that william h macy kind of not involved in that sort of

crucifixion hands clean of the whole situation willie definitely sucked off a dean he knew he knew he sucked off a dean he walked down, what's a good college? UPenn. And sucked the dean. And before we can start saying that bravely, proudly, and bravely, bravely, new word. Go ahead and use it, touch us grass. Before we can bravely say on Moscow Juristas

that William H. Macy has been sucking the cock of every dean in the college industrial complex, then we can't say we're a podcast that breaks ground and speaking of podcasts that break ground today is actually a huge deal in podcasting history because it's two critically acclaimed podcasts sort of getting together to shoot the shit absolutely well let's just keep it at that. I don't want to limit us because I feel like the four of us together, this is,

I have not one to really say this and self-label in this way, but this is powerful. Not since Marsha Cross, Eva Longoria, Terry Hatcher, and one of America's biggest criminals, Felicity Huffman got together. Don't forget Nicolette Sheridan.

Honey, there's not a fifth and I'm sorry, but she was supporting. And had she known that she wouldn't have gotten to the troubleman got together. Don't forget Nicolette Sheridan. Honey, there's not a fifth and I'm sorry, but she was supporting and had she known that she wouldn't have gotten to the trouble she got in. She needed to know her place. She needed to be thankful. She came there, hit her mark, do her sassy one-liners and get the hell out. The fact that they even gave her deep arcs was huge. It's true. Fine. And we could get more into that because you know who they throw around her name as a, as a potential Beverly Hills cast member. Let's talk about it with our guests. Our guests are so wonderful.

Incredible. Incredible comedians. Real hot wives of Orlando. Real hot wives of Vegas. And more. I mean, incredible actresses and writers in their own right. They also host the truly iconic podcast, Bitch Sesh. The kind of podcast that you go on and then

a hundred people come out of the woodwork, as they say. And they say, wow, you were on Bitch Sesh. The kind of podcast that you go on and then a hundred people come out of the woodwork, as they say, and they say, wow, you were on Bitch Sesh. That was amazing. People from high school? Yeah. Wow. That's the power.

Damn. That's the power. Like we said, they are the hosts of Bitch Sesh. We are so happy and it was long overdue. It's actually humiliating. It's taken this long to get them on. But please, welcome into your ears. I hear on Las Culturistas,

Danielle Snyder and Casey Wilson! Let's go. Let's go. but please welcome into your ears. I hear I'm last culture. Is this Daniel? Let's go. We're off to the. We're off. Hey, this does feel like a meeting of the minds. I'm going to try not to. I'm so excited to be here.

And with my brethren that I feel like I don't want to talk too much. You know, like I want to like, just why else did we bring you on? You have to talk. It's crucial that you talk. No, but I'm so excited. I'll just have like diarrhea of the mouth.

I'm trying to like chill myself. I mean, look, we've already said that William H. Macy sucks cock to get his kids into school. So like we're already set the bar high. I've been angry that he has really gotten to the background and had no repercussions.

He's on TV left and right. Yeah. I want to say, guys, hi. I'm so happy to be here. But I am wearing a jumpsuit that last Halloween, I pulled out two seconds before my kids started trick-or-treating. I took a piece of tape. I wrote Felicity Huffman, inmate, whatever on here.

And I got an SAT prep book and I walked out the house. And so it feels right that I'm wearing this to be with you all on this incredible podcast. Very correct. So did she do hard time? She did do a little time. I think she did like 14 days. I'm not even kidding.

I think Lori did like two months. Lori was the real mastermind. I think Lori got her daughter months. Lori. Lori was the real mastermind. Yes. I think Lori, you know, got her daughter on like a rowing machine and that cost more in the eyes of the law. That's soft time. That's soft mochi bite time. Yeah.

Just really pillowy and juicy and whatever. Well, that's like Hollywood prison. It's true. But I'm ready to forgive. I don't It's true. But I'm ready to forgive. I don't know about Lori, but I'm ready to forgive Felicity. I am too. I forgive them. Absolutely. You know, forgiveness is a major part of

the human condition, and I'm so happy that we're talking about it here. Forgiveness is so important. When was a time that you forgave? Never. Not once. Yeah, I heard that. What if this podcast all of a sudden became very brené brown like you didn't realize that we had pivoted we had decided to pivot 15 minutes before and it's no longer right now it's more about human like how we better ourselves

run screaming brené's not even about forgiveness though anyway i just wanted to guys i don't understand brené and i know i'm alone in this and i'm gonna hear about it no it's okay should we i yeah okay what's confusing to you we don't have to unpack her i just the whole like vulnerability thing i just i don't it's she's not it for me in that world and i will go to every unaccredited spiritual healer in this broken city you i'll give anyone two dollars and take their advice but something about her hasn't grabbed me okay am i wrong no no no no no you're not wrong at all because i think vulnerability became like the catch-all phrase in her work and it's not the thing i don't think that's the thing she should be known for i think anything she should be known for shame or at least emotional linguistics. Like the act of naming your emotions as you feel them helps shape the experience of what you're going through.

What you have just said, I have understood it so much more because vulnerability, I was hanging my hat on that word. I didn't frankly know what was happening with it, but shame I can. Okay. I mean, we can contextualize shame. Shame I got. Shame I i got i got that i would i can hang my hat on shame any day of the week i recognize that i get absolutely great hat stand i remember she came up with her like hbo max series that was recently out of course i drank a wheat seltzer got out a notebook i was taking was taking notes. Okay. I was like, all right, I'm here. I'm ready to go.

I'm in class. I paid more attention to her as like a professor than any college course. Wow. And you got a lot out of it. A lot. Okay. I used to drive around the City of Angels and just play her books in the car and weep. Like that was like when I couldn't afford therapy.

Renee Brown and me in my car were just like, this was like when i couldn't afford therapy for day brown and me and my car were just like this is right this feels great yeah oh that's incredible worth the price of gas meanwhile i have like a gift certificate to see a wizard and that is not a joke wait what so i think it's time to wait who gave it to you how much is it for which wizard which wizard my friend katya she's a dog therapist and she gave me a certificate to see a wizard and she's just like he'll change your life there's no other he goes by wizard and i wish i could call him by any other name a rose that smells so sweet he goes by wizard so his name is wizard and his occupation is yeah wizardry and you know again i will see anyone

so i'm looking forward to his teachings and amazing it's two hour session i don't know what's gonna happen there but oh so you haven't you haven't done yet no no i just have my gift certificate and it is a print out amazing what do you what do you hope will or could happen i mean oh my gosh there's so many possibilities whatever this wizard says will be like that's the thing I've needed this whole time and I've been so stupid and everything I've done up till now is like a fraud and so I hope for anything he tells me I'll latch on to I'm sure have you guys done the because now the big thing is tarot readings on apps like you chat with the tarot i like so i downloaded sanctuary in addition

to other astrology stuff and you can pay for a dollar a minute or some some people like five dollars a minute some people really charge up but um i did one and this lady was like you should consider past life analysis and i'm like okay this has gone too far but maybe you should consider spending more money here that's what she said see bowen when i hear that i'm like wonderful and yeah thank you you know bowen that right by my path is this beautiful tarot book the mysteries of love what does that say oracle deck it's the greatest oracle deck of all time did you pull your card today show the cards dan, Danielle. Just show how gorgeous they are. Yes, this is the card that

I pulled today. I'm just going to show you real quick. Oh, this is important for us to know. It's Hope. Oh my God. I needed that today. That's a beautiful photo too. That orchid is very gorgeous. Yes. I'm going to call it an orchid. It is.

Those cards are gorgeous.balt blue and gold yeah okay so with the theme of hope on today's episode and the theme of the episode is of course hope forgiveness and hopefully betterment and shame and shame i want to say some names for you which this is what us weekly reports okay and this was this was a report that just came out i don't know if we're seeing this and again it is way too early and this is almost definitely of course they've seen it it was on my google alert this morning but please proceed i want to say these following names brandy glanville kyle richards lisa vanderpump sutton strack erica jane garcelle bouvet friend of dorit kemsley do we have hope for this is this possible can this

happen so rin has not mentioned at all she is not no rinna no diana no crystal wow you know what wow say right as rain right as beautiful perfect i love the reintroduction of one lisa vanderpump to take everything off of its heels like everybody feels like it has to happen yeah that feels nice that feels real good i don't need lisa back lisa vanderpump back personally but i'm ready to set sail to rena set sail to rena i think she's a ghoul yeah it's become ghoulish it's become very ghoulish behavior it's become like it's become well now it's like it's the sort of thing where they're like, say it, say it, say it to Crystal all season about whatever this dark thing was. And now I'm like, Tarina, okay, say it.

What is it that Kathy said that was so cuckoo crazy? What is it? Say it. Yeah, nobody will. If you can't say it, you're off my screen. You got to say it. Crystal is just too normal to me. I know moms

that know her i don't want that i don't want to have one connection to these people i appreciate her beauty as well i mean i love something to feast my eyes upon and i know you know what i mean and she is gorgeous so for that reason alone i i like her in the cast and i do think she calls people out you know in a way that some of the other girls don't she's willing to speak truth to power which i enjoy um but she is normal she's someone i'd be friends with and that's difficult right yes but it's when she calls people out is when it's good tv and she seems reticent and reluctant to do that until she's shoved into the court like she really had to get backed up at the reunion for her to blow up a column.

It was beef! Beef! It was so great. It was beep, beep, beep. It really was. This is what I'll say. When I knew it was going to be a bad season for Kyle, I was like, oh no. Bummer. I love Kyle. And then by the end, I was like, no. She really needed to have a bad season because this is what I'll say about Kyle Richards.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone say the word me more like everything is me this it only hurts me it hurts me when you do this it's me and i have to deal with it me me me meanwhile whenever anyone else has any issue she's sort of like why are you upset about that like dismissing every single thing crystal said all season in regards to how she was feeling and how she was experiencing things. She sort of does it with Garcelle too, which not to say too much, but

there's a common thread there. It seems like she has some blindness, we'll say, and I just feel like there's a self centeredness, which in the past has been cute, and now it's just like, no, like you can't just do this queen bee thing anymore. Like in an environment where these

are not actually women that are your natural friends anymore. They're like not scared of you in the same way. And so they're going to call out the fact that you center yourself constantly. And I think that seems to be what Kathy Hilton's biggest issue with her is, is that no matter what, it always is all about Kyle. And that's something you learn to like stop doing like in your mid 20s, not your mid 50s. Right. Wow. Well, you know, they say you get stuck at the age you get famous at.

That's what they do say. women and especially the younger or kim and kyle have been famous for a very long time and they are all under the still under the heavy foot of big kathy big kathy she's looming large over all of this she looms very large from the sky from the sky mama kathy have any of you ever met kathy hilton in person i wouldn wouldn't dare. I did. Wow! So I met her at an Eamon Marcus event a couple weeks ago, like randomly. Wait, what? On a shopping spree-a? I was on a

shopping spree-a! And, no, actually I wasn't. It was very much like, it was like a fancy weird, it was pre-Halloween and they were having like a Christmas event, and Lupita Nyong'o was there. Most beautiful woman I have ever seen in person truly stunning there were other people there too and then Kathy Hilton was there and I guess someone that works for her was like do you want to meet Kathy and I was like oh my god I guess so I guess I have to here I am I'm being

asked so I went over to her and like when she shakes her hand, she looks you dead in the eyes and sort of says hi. And then like expects you to say something. And all I could get out was, hi, Kathy. It's nice to meet you. And I just want to say team Kathy. And she goes, and then someone next to me was like, I actually know a mutual friend of yours. And she goes, oh, of course, of course. Yes.

And then she like had a conversation with them. But all I could say was team Kathy, and here's why. She's much scarier in person than you think she's going to be. I believe that. I believe. Very intimidating. Really? Much less cuddly.

Less cuddly. It's less, ha ha, what a goof, and more like, oh my God. I was just going to say, we've been on such a journey with her because I think we thought we knew Kathy. Then she comes on the show and we're all like, that's not the Kathy we thought. Like with this box fan and doddering around and we were so excited. It wasn't the Kathy we thought that then when she was unmasked as the Kathy we knew her to be before. We're now also confused. So to hear that in person she's tough is I'm taking it in, you know.

And it wasn't it wasn't even tough. It wasn't even like she wasn't nice. She was like she fully't nice. She was. Like she fully came over and like shook my hand, took a picture with us. And like, then she went on her merry way. But I guess what I'm saying is

in person, it's an intimidating vibe. Like it's not like high. It's not warm. It's very like, in the way that it's like her house is like, you know,

very well decorated, but there's like a coldness and how like calculated the decoration is. Like that's kind of what i'm responding to is it's like a very put together beverly hills woman who's like in charge kyle on the other hand casey and i have met kyle and been in her house and the one in encino the one one that's like a mansion with a dog mansion outside of it. We've been there. And Kyle could not be warmer. Yeah.

That makes sense. And she did do the splits on that black and white parquet floor. Oh, yeah. Those look nice. Which nobody asked for. Well, with Kathy, I feel like Kathy has the teeth obsession is alarming, a huge red flag. The birth order is important here to consider. And I feel like Kathy is a perfect example of like personality determinism where you're like, can people really change?

Maybe not. Maybe she is. She's always who she always was. And like what Casey's saying, like was not the cuddly goof. She never was that person. But the show caught her in that little moment where she seemed to have had a quirky little phase for a few months, you know?

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My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate, delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break

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We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The thing about the Kathy Hilton of it all is there is a huge element of darkness here with the Paris Hilton school of it all. And also, I was recently watching the bling ring documentary. As was I. Yes. So, Bowen, I told you about it last week.

So there's a Netflix documentary. And obviously, Paris Hilton was one of the people robbed by the bling ring. And there's a point in the episode where Paris is like sort of dancing, like, like sort of, you know, seductively and like, maybe she's a little drunk or whatever. This is like height of Paris, like 2006, 2007 in the background is Kathy just sort of standing there with arms folded, like smiling a smile. And I'm like, this is not like, I got to bring my fan with me. I wear slippers in the airport energy this is like a calculated family decision to have the fame be this type of thing you know

it's you know what I'm saying it's not all peaches and creams yeah and I also think and I feel like I've been saying this for a little while which is that we don't get a Paris Hilton and a Baron Hilton I don't know for Nikki but we don't get a Paris Hilton and a Baron Hilton.

I don't know from Nikki, but we don't get those two. I don't know from Nikki is the title of that. I don't know from Nikki. I don't know from Nikki. But you don't get those two pieces of, let's honestly be true, garbage without somebody else. You know, and I'm not saying we're all to blame for our children. Who knows? My child could be a serial killer and I refuse to take responsibility for it.

But I just feel like it, like Kathy, I feel Kathy looming over them. I don't, it was fun to see her as this doddering thing. And I do believe that that is a part of her personality, but there is darkness there. There's power play there. To talk about darkness in a way that feels like exceptional within Housewives is wild. Bingo.

Like everybody's dark. Right. For us to really see that and all agree there. It's like, you know what I do like about Kathy is how for some reason her and garcelle is like exempt from all her like at no point was rena like and wait till what she said about garcelle and kathy's always in the corner with garcelle being like she's always pulling garcelle off like you get it it's just like a funny little odd little pair there but yeah and i always forget

that kathy and crystal are BFFs. I'm like, oh, what's that about? It would seem that they had never seen each other on the street. Remember when she came over to visit? Yeah, when she came over to visit, I was like, hey, and then sat down and I was like, oh, y'all just hang? Okay, here's a question. Is Beverly Hills the darkest franchise?

Yes. At this moment, yes. I think so. I, for a while, i thought orange county was so dark because that is a is a franchise built on like it's a it's a house of cards like there's no money there's no culture no culture in orange county it's actually shocking it's like a kitchen island is the culture yeah it's like we just redid the kitchen island and that kitchen island is made from cardboard like there's no like if you took off the formica it would be cardboard under like there's no like real structures like there's no money there's no personality there's no there there and so i find that vacuum of like gravitas

you know what i mean like that vacuum of anything real, like to be really dark to me personally. It's like it's taking place in a, you know what, like a strip mall. Yes, literally. But Beverly Hills is overtaking that right now. Beverly Hills has for me, it's the sisters elements,

like the three sisters. We're always saying there's like a Chicovian thing happening with the three of them. There's something so dark with those sisters and when we go back to the limo ride and you're an alcoholic and we see the whole thing and then we've got rick is the real entrepreneur with real estate and then marizio it's so much is going on there that the family element to me takes us to another level of darkness and beverly hills is an incredibly dark place of course yeah I mean from the beginning what I've actually really liked about it was that it was about the cracks in the

china and like when when when it actually got revealed what was under there it was like fascinating because of the depths of how dark it was like I think probably the darkest thing that's ever happened on any housewives franchise is Taylor Armstrong and Russell you know what I mean like that's because he he's dead and he was probably going to kill her had he lived that's like the base reality that we're working at but it does feel like and i will say this the reason that bowen and i love potomac so much and not to say that bowen and i don't acknowledge that potomac has been dark oh yeah it is probably at times at one point anyway been the darkest with some of the parents it gets dark yeah yes but it's fun so funny and like it feels light like i love that like what i'm like kept up about

at night is the fact that robin cannot put together a family fun day event that family fun day she couldn't even pay for a bounce house nothing Nothing. Mama couldn't get a spread together. Some donut holes. Anything on a folding table. Let me ask you guys this. I know we've talked about this at length, but I haven't heard your opinions. What do you think about Ashley divorcing Michael?

Like, is this real? Like, what's happening? I think it's maybe just a whole gambit for Michael Darby to be like, I don't want to be on camera for this show anymore. Let's do something about that and, like, kind of stage some whole divorce plot. I don't know. Something about the call of Ashley getting the call in the car on the drive home from the

Family Fun Day event seemed a little off, even though that was like... Very off. It seemed off, but I was like, oh, but I couldn't tell. Like, reality was a little bit... And we didn't know really where we were in time and space. There's something about it. Uh-huh. Okay, so I'm not alone in that. It was weird that it ended like that.

Yeah, it was like the Family Fun Day event happened and then she's in the car doing loops. I just can't. I was going to say, was she like turning around in a cul-de-sac over and over? She got lost. It was so odd. It was so weird. And I will also say, so my opinion on this is I think it's a real divorce, but I think it's not as complicated as they're making it out to be.

And that's where they're producing it for television which is that it's probably pretty cut and dry she certainly has like the amount of money she's getting worked out like you know what I mean like they've known they were getting divorced for a few years I'm certain of it and they're probably just making it seem more contentious

I don't know about that because the baby though the new kid yeah but don't you think that Ashley's like, you will give me these children. Like, I think that she has enough agency in that where it's like, even if they were to break up, she was like, I'm getting my kids out of this because that's ultimately why I married you. That's all I'm getting. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think that he wants them full time.

Like, I don't think there's an argument. No way. You know, like, I just don't think he's interested. I mean, he's 100. I don't think he's interested. He's one of the oldest men in America. He's the oldest living man in Potomac. Have you felt a darker

space than that apartment? On the ground, picking up the toys. It's made of glass. Just something about him with that one beer. The two of them love those Coronas so much. It is so wild to watch them just sit around and drink Corona toys littered on the ground. An unsafe atmosphere for children. It's made of glass every mirrored and glass everywhere you look i'm so

upset in that apartment although despite all of this back to your earlier point it is the lightest show in the entire franchise like when candace breaks the fourth wall immediately and just says fourth wall no i i screamed i stopped show. I broke in a sweat. And then when she just, they're so funny when she said, not today, Satan, not today, neck,

not today, ankles. We don't have it. We don't have it. We don't have it. We don't have it. Matt and I talked about this the last couple episodes, but like that moment

in the dance studio where she just breaks fourth wall and goes, what are we doing? Yeah. Looks at forth while he goes, what are we doing? Oh, yeah. Looks at the camera and says, what are we doing?

So impactful. She saw it all. I screamed. Scream. We said last week with a certain housewives memes that we love, like, like, like whenever

Sheree is like, I like the beat or like Bowen said when it's daylight savings during the what if your son died? And another one another one. Someone did

a meme of Ariel when she gets her voice back. I need Eric. Where is Eric? Really good. I need Eric. I need Eric. I said whenever I get into any argument with anyone, I'm getting up off the floor out of my cross-legged situation and saying, I need Eric.

And I'm stomping out. I really latched on to Doug. Doug. I'm all about Doug. Remember when Andy called for Doug in the reunion? What do we want to do, Doug? He goes, what do you want to do here, Doug? Oh, Kyle's a mess.

Doug, Kyle's a wreck. We did this Halloween show. About 10 people dressed up as Doug. They all had headsets. I was dying. It was like everybody decided to be Doug. Didn't Andy judge? He did. Yes, he did. It was just Doug.

Caviar and potatoes, Doug. Caviar and potatoes, Doug. Someone dressed up as the chicken tender that Erica said Crystal claimed. Oh my God. That is so funny. Our friend Tim Murray, who's been on the podcast, he came to a very crowded Halloween party the other day

as Kathy Hilton's conga line. He had one person in front of him, one person, like he made like mannequins and there was one on his front and one on his back. And he was like, the party was too crowded as it was. And he was like trying to get through as Kathy Hilton's conga line. And I really think that was good.

Wow, really good. It's great. Beautiful. But back to Potomac, I also love Karen and Giselle's relationship. Like even though it is obviously fraught, there is such humor and love there that when they do get together, there's nothing funnier.

I think someone said to them, hey, stop. Like just please get together. We need it as a nation. You just have to and they're like fine and it's so fun and and there are it is all building towards a candace and ashley sort of team up too like it feels like the old rivalries are breaking down and new ones are formed unexpected ones are forming in their place and i'm not segwaying right now into salt lake but i feel like that's i was just thinking that bone Bowen. Yes, with Heather and-

And Whitney. Whitney kind of breaking off and Lisa. What do you guys make of Salt Lake? I'll be honest with you. It's actually becoming less fun for me just because I always struggle with a cast of women that's really small. Small.

Because especially when the dynamics are so firm, like it's like Meredith and Lisa, it's just not moving forward. And Heather and Whitney seem to not be moving forward. And with Jen, it's kind of like, I think all the juice is sucked out of her scenes actually, because we know what happens and we know she's lying.

So she has no credibility. So therefore she's not a grounded character in the show. And I don't, I certainly don't have fun watching her, nor do I enjoy where it's going to go. Like if it's, if we're going to go there, let's get there. That's what I think about Salt Lake right now is it's moving slowly. Although I did enjoy the talent show,

at least the beginnings of it. Danny Pellegrino and everything iconic described, Whitney and Angie Harrington, which by the way, that's a haunted situation right there. Their dance duo as being from Grey Gardens. And I love that absolutely it was giving greg gardens but bowen's not a salt lake stan i am 100 i am right but you more like the fun potomac energy i the potomac energy is something that i feel like is sorely missing from so many people's lives, including my own.

I just, it's the kind of television that's hard to find. It's the, I don't watch that much reality TV. And I'm not saying that in a snooty way. I'm just going like, it's because I feel like it's hard to arrive at that. There's an alchemy in Potomac that is very, very, very, very hard to land on. Well, to have a person throw a taco party, spring fling, rites of passage, Yeah, what the fuck?

Whatever, and then not serve one taco. Like, that is, you can't get that anywhere. Yeah, you don't get that everywhere. Like, come on. Like, that is perfect. And even, and I feel like I'm so invested in what's going on in that show, even though and I feel like I'm so invested in, in,

in what's going on in that show, even though it is like the lowest stakes compared to a lot of other shows, like Ashley Darby showed up to an SNL after party a month ago. And I was just so annoyed with her at the time in the show that I was like, I'm not saying hi to her. Like it like spills over into my real life where I'm like i'm not and then i'm at at up front i've told the story i made eye contact with giselle bryant and and i think she this is me assuming so much and thinking so highly of myself but i'm like she knows i've talked shit about her publicly i think they do know i don't know i don't know but wait you so so you ladies like

because bitch sash is like i think the iconic the like podcast you and danny like you guys are the podcasts for for housewives do you do you get people reaching out ever and like angry at you you know i i don't say this because i'm like i'm being funny or trying to be rude i don't think a lot of the housewives can get at podcasts. And that's just a, I don't think they know how. Tech issue. It's a tech issue. Oh my God.

Yeah, because if I like post anything, I'll get some DMs. But it's like nothing compared to what we've said. Right. Also, remember how none of the housewives in Beverly Hills could get through like one page of a newspaper article?

Right. Like when they're like, something that they were cared about, you know, something that they were like invested. I couldn't read erica's that whole article i couldn't yeah no it was the only one that read like any of it yeah well sutton read it but she took all morning yeah exactly so i think that they feel that way about pockets like i can't listen to all of this yeah you know lisa lisa rinna has come after me a bit. And she's watching Watch What Happens Live and firing off DMs right away.

Whatever anyone's saying, she's at you. And it was scary. I had to take a Klonopin. She's got a touch of grass. Yeah, she did. She was like, Danielle, can you read this? I was like, I'll get through it. Like, I'll figure it out.

It was so scary, honestly. But I guess we're asking, like, has it colored your interactions with housewives that you've had like where you know we try not to ever really interview them or fly too close to the sun i don't want to i i just filmed a video with sonia where i like pretended to be her intern but sonia i put in a class over here you know she's so fun and sweet and i would feel the same way about her but i don't really want to get to know these gals as much as I love them. And I also want to be able to talk about them and not feel bad.

So they also sort of have to remain like characters in this great show that I'm watching as opposed to like real human beings. Because then like, if it's like a person, it's too, but we do love them. It's not like we're coming about this

from an angle of like, oh, these stupid idiots. Like I have real love in my heart for these human beings that put their lives on, you know what I mean? And I change on them every day, 180 from week to week. So it's best if I don't view them up close and personal. Yeah. Right. And while still remembering that they have to be people first.

Yes. And because I think that was the thing. I didn't watch too much BravoCon stuff. I know you guys sent, you didn't send, but Ray and Ira reported back to you on BravoCon and it was a great episode. We sent reporters, yes.

You sent reporters, you sent to the field. But I feel like the thing, my takeaway from BravoCon was like the booing of Renna, like all this other stuff, just like the interactive element of that with the fans there while certain conflicts were being sort of played out on stage.

There was something a little dissonant to me about that. I was like, oh, we're not used to this element in the normal Housewives scheme. Yeah, the streams are kind of crossing. There's something happening where it's like, it's getting a bit, I like them to stay in the TV. Me too. Is that bad? Is that wrong to think? And watch my stories.

I want to watch my stories in my programs. I want to watch my stories. It's our soaps. Yeah. And you know what it reminds me of now? It's reminding me a lot of the WWF. You know what I mean? Where it's now become, it's now become like an interactive element of it. It's like, you know,

they, they know to amp up their fans. Like, and that to me is like, it's drifting away from like what it is. And more like, for example, like on the Beverly Hills reunion,

I think we spent much more time on social media, things that happen after the show than on things that happened on the show you know what i mean like i don't think we even discussed big plot points in the season like but we spent so much time on these bots like you know whose name wasn't even uttered ms ashers i knew it i was so upset Who's the breakout pop star Thank you Thank you His high note

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And so this being your first appearance on the show, what we do is we ask every single guest that rolls through, what was the culture that made you say culture is for me? This is the touchstone of the quickly came podcast Las Culturistas. Danielle, we will ask you first. What was the culture that made you say

culture was for you? For me, growing up in the 80s and 90s, I'm going to say like the original soap operas you know what i mean is that what you think what connects you to housewives oh for sure because it's women living out loud you know what i mean it was for me definitely like the the susan lucci and the dallas and the dynasty and the like just like my favorite characters not being in any way likable or any way anything I

could relate to just these like wild storylines and people screaming like I was six years old watching General Hospital like my mom would just sit me in front of it and be like have at she was like Luke and Laura are getting married everyone in America is watching

my mother was a massive all my children General Hospital and be like, have at. She was like, Luke and Laura are getting married. Everyone in America is watching. Yeah, no, my mother was a massive, all my children, General Hospital, Port Charles. So it was just like, that was in front of me. And I, my girlfriend was watching like Smurfs and Sesame Street. And I was like, fuck that shit. It's like, get me young and the restless, you know? And sometimes what's great about living in the Valley,

which I now live in Glendale, but I used to live in the Valley. And what was great about it is I would see these soap opera stars that I used to grow up with, like loving, now sort of like tan and aged and pulled. Those are celebs, absolutely. But it's gorgeous to see like the men and women.

Like I saw Jack Wagner in a hot yoga class and I almost shit my pants. Oh, geez. I was like, this is life. This is living. Yeah, it's living. When it's like old, like not old, I just mean like time bound,

time weathered emotional relationships, parasocial or whatever with these people. Yes. I think that to me at a very young age was where I came up with the culture. That was for me. Because they were in homes every single day. You know what I mean? Like that was,

it's one thing to be a TV star. And like, I think that, you know, maybe obviously it's all blended now because what is anything? What is a movie? What is a TV show? But like people always said,

like when you were a TV star at a certain point like you would be approached differently whereas like people are very afraid to approach like a proper movie star whereas a tv star it's like oh my god so these soap opera people they must get the and the fandom obviously is was intense with them when they were huge but maybe that energy has transferred over to the housewives fandom because completely that's what that's where people have i think it's such a perfect link yeah yeah and andy says that a lot he talks about how like the reason he even was interested in doing this and like creating this and obviously he wasn't like the creator of it but he has steered it in such

a way was because he loved soaps and missed them because they don't occupy the same cultural space anymore my sister still watches soaps. It's like shocks me. Like she's still like taping her Santa Barbara every day. You know what I mean? Like I don't even have terrestrial television. I wouldn't even know where to begin, where to get a soap opera like that.

But like some people still are, I still see like the soap opera digest, which if I would beg my parents for in the grocery store, I'd be like, can I please get that? They'd be like, no, you can get grocery store, I'd be like, can I please get that? They'd be like, no, you can get premier. And I'd be like,

fine. Oh, I was not tiger beat. I was like premier magazine. Yeah. You've always been this person then. Yeah. Oh,

completely. That's beautiful. I think. Thank you. Yeah. To have like your, your like cultural focal length, like exactly set for like.

At a very young age. I perfect. young age oh that's that's the dream and so then to like create something like hot wives must have been like a perfect like meeting of those worlds too yes it was it still is you know what i mean i love to watch people that aren't perfect living loudly and brashly and so to just get and anything we did on housewives nothing is bigger than the actual housewives you know what i mean like anytime we we we did like a casey's character through like a party to like raise money for high heels for dogs and so it was one of those things where it was like then they're all throwing these like you know homeless not toothless parties like they all kind of feel in the same like we're never we were never bigger than the show itself it just you couldn't right so respectful yeah like as as

an homage yeah homeless not toothless could have happened on your show and everyone would have been like this is the funniest joke of the year and then it actually happened in real life and everyone was like okay wow this is the and i do think that's why you still need to read i'm sorry like i i will sort of die a dorit stan unfortunately like i she does make me laugh the most like the way that she acts the things that she says like the way that she wears her clothes even when it's dark with her like it's it's entertaining to me and i think if she weren't there i would i would be upset she's giving us a lot of flavor and color although maybe that's what a friend of is sometimes but i i love her too yeah i love her too well what a gorgeous answer to the question

that was that was that was a good one and the connecting one as well thank you thank you casey what about you what's the culture that made you say culture is for you? You know, I know this movie is kind of cheesy and some people really don't love it. But I am obsessed and still am with the women of the movie Clue. Oh, good one. It touched me in a way that I can't even express. Like, seeing these, there was four comedians in it. I mean, obviously, Madeline Kahn. Yes, Leslie Ann Warren.

Leslie Ann Warren, who was, like, sexy and funny. And then even Colleen Camp, who played the maid, was hilarious. And Eileen Brennan as Mrs. Peacock. For some reason, that movie, it lodged itself in my brain. And I'm obsessed with all those women.

And then kind of became just obsessed with female performers. I also, I mean, I guess this movie isn't quite what we're talking about with pop culture. But I got very into terms of endearment, like Shirley MacLaine. And then in the Death Becomes Her Realm, I'm just into that whole wheel of kind of female character actresses, I would say. Yes. No, that is her realm. Like, I'm just into that whole wheel of kind of female character actresses, I would say. Yes. No,

that is formative. It was quite formative. I mean, is there ever any casting that's ever been better than Leslie Ann Warren coming in to play

Terry Hatcher's mother in Desperate Housewives? I mean, that was perfect. It was perfect. Beautiful. But these women are like, that's who I feel like

I am watching on Housewives truly are all these kind of larger than life women who are funny and well they're not allowed to be it anymore i feel like they're in my opinion we just don't get or they're sort of relegated to these like smaller movies you know that like right august osage county or something you know what i mean like not every like we'll watch. People in the culture will watch. Danielle and I will watch. We'll watch. I'll be lining up

day one for August Osage County. But like you're not getting those characters because even I as a writer, I just get such pressure to write like likable, likable, likable, likable. But I like people that aren't likable. I like people that aren't, you know, that you don't want to be i like watching these women fight i it is the most

soothing sounds to me i can fall asleep to them just screaming it's like waves upon the shore nice i love it so much my husband's like how are you listening to that i'm like i couldn't want to listen to anything more that's a beautiful soothe i mean i guess for some reason she's coming to mind i mean not for some reason it makes's coming to mind, I mean, not for some reason, it makes sense, like, I think the only person who's, like, being allowed to play that kind of person now is, like, a Jennifer Coolidge, which

amazing, we love, no one is complaining, but, like, I wonder how she feels. She just did, like, a Rolling Stone interview that I'm still reading, and, like, it's really interesting, really fascinating, but she's, but then you, like, remember, oh, right, she's also this incredible comedic performer

who is like was for a while relegated to like Stifler's mom or whatever and then kind of caricature yeah

and then now she's doing a great job of trying to like recalibrate and balance those two things but like you go back and watch her in Best in Show and her and Jane Lynch's

scenes are like incredible and like who could have done that but they're beyond yes she's a terrific actress you're absolutely right that kind of woman like jennifer coolidge is who i feel like we got to grow up watching like a lot more of that version and now there's only so many actresses who get to do and they're so relegated to like side characters the real realtor, you know, and not that I don't want to see the realtor, but I,

but I do think Mike White is like, he is all about kind of centering them in a, in an amazing way, but I wish there was more. Yeah.

Yeah. Like the realtor, well, like what else did he know? Oh, like they're always like, what are they? These characters,

they're always like the realtor. Yeah. They're always the realtor. Right. That's so funny the judge i love a lawyer i love a cunty lawyer yeah like like oh in search party that woman that was the oh my god that woman was incredible and i'm missing the oh shalita greatest performance i could see a whole show on that character, though. Why can I not get an entire show

on that character? I want her. I don't feel like we need to relegate her to just this cunty lawyer. I want to see cunty lawyer goes home. Yes, it goes home. And at a home, does the cunt factor get increased? Or do we see it break down?

Or is she a different side of her? Do we see the deconstruction of the country lawyer? That's what we need. We need Laura Dern at home in Marriage Story. Yes, I was just thinking of that. But this is another reason

why I loved Big Little Lies and why every time they're like, oh, we don't need another season. I'm like, who are you speaking for? Don't speak for me. Not me. Because even if it's not as quote unquote good, you know what I mean even if it's not as quote unquote good,

you know what I mean? If it's not the masterpiece that was the first season that was like an actual assessment of something in the culture that needed like a real dramatic breakdown, which is like it ended up being this like incredible piece on domestic violence that I think no one thought it was going to be at the beginning. And then the second season was kind of more just like,

okay, it's pulp. It's Meryl Streep screaming for no reason you know whatever it's still Meryl Streep screaming I'm fine with that yes me too and it's like I don't need the mystery I think people think we need what is the mystery of the end if you give me some great fucking characters

I'll watch them eat a piece of you know meat I don't care eat a baked potato with goddamn meat. I don't care. Half a bagel. I know. Eat a baked potato with goddamn caviar. I don't care. Exactly. To speak on White Lotus for a second, have you all watched the first episode?

Of course. Yes, every frame. I'm not cut up, but please talk about it freely. But there's only been the one, so. There's been one. You're right. Okay, I'm going to say something. Maybe it's a little bit unpopular,

but I feel like Jennifer Coolidge thinks we expect something of her now, say something. Maybe it's a little bit unpopular. But I feel like Jennifer Coolidge thinks we expect something of her now and she's laying it on a little thick. I think it's coming across a little performed. It's almost coming off like Tanya McQuad 2.0 in a way where I'm like take a breath.

I agree, but I think we sort of set her up for that. I don't know that she could totally win in that space as well. Let's see. Let's give it that she could totally win in that space as well. Let's see. Let's give it a B. Let's us also take a breath. I agree. Wow.

We're all taking a breath. We're all taking a breath because I hear you and yet. Take a breath. She gave us so much overseas. The first episode, we didn't know what we were going to get with Jotun for Coolidge. She could have just. But then we saw her in that scene where she's like mommy mommy i mean we got so many levels in that show that like we don't know we don't know that show a levels machine and i also love i think that um so basically bowen and like the very first scene you find out that it's not just

one guest that's dead it's several guests that are dead which i feel like is mike white being like as commenting on the thing of like it's the second season you want more okay we'll kill a couple more people like it won't be about that at all which is another thing i like about white lois it's like sort of masquerades as like this like murder mystery and then there's no element of this like in terms of structure in terms of how you write a murder mystery that's not here it's just the story of this and this obviously the second season no one's thinking about it at all as you're watching it like oh is that gonna i don't need to that i would rather know what the the thread count on the towel is at this gorgeous hotel like i'm very interested in that there was the first scene where megan fahey who's by the way so good and stunning I think she's

becoming movie star moment like probably after this but she swims out into the ocean Bowen and like literally bumps up against a carcass carcass was out in the ocean there's this moment of her like what the fuck is that cause she can feel

this body and she looks and you see the body float by and her acting in it is so good because you're just like it's like shock disgust fear panic and then like she's like physically flinging herself out of the water trying to swim away it's just like and then it's like white lotus you know what i mean like immediately the next scene is the fucking hotel manager being like well i don't think we're liable because it happened in the water like it's really really it's really good I mean I think that show is a home run are you guys watching

the vow season 2? no but I hear it's worth a watch because Miss Thing is in it because I think that the first part ended in like a sort of a loose messy way I think yep but what are ended in a sort of a loose, messy way. I think.

Yep. But what are your guys' thoughts? I love it. To just see Nancy Salzman, the woman that was his kind of counterpart, it's all about Nancy. And it is just wild. Seeing her with her ankle bracelet. To see her with her hairless cat just puttering around like upstate. I know what you're hearing sounds bad, but you're wanting to see it.

Yeah. You need it. You need it. Have you guys been watching The Mole? What's The Mole? So, Bowen, now you're into The Mole? I finished it. I finished it in like three days.

Oh, it's iconic TV. And, Bowen, Joy? Joy. There's a character Joy, which is... There's a character joy who you guys will love because she is someone explain this to me perfectly she is a 2003 era reality

villain plopped into 2022 yes phenomenal she's confusing she's confounding she's a little bit stupid a little bit of a genius like all it's all happening it's like someone from like early survivor like someone from like early Survivor or someone from

um early I don't know like The Mole like it's it's the show that was on I was gonna say I remember The Mole

being around Circle like like when Survivor came out it was like another answer to Survivor I'm gonna say like 2003 2004

like and it's back or has it always been going it's been back they only did like four or five seasons of it back in the day and then it took a long break they tried to bring it back in like the early 2010s didn't really work didn't take off i think it's been a hit and i think the whole it's a it's a great watch the whole way through you guys would love it where where am

i finding it netflix.com netflix is back with them all can i throw one more show into the mix yeah it's so good i i feel i'm telling people just person by person which is my kid's a fucking star i'm writing this down on paper the greatest show of all time is following four children and their stage parents okay Okay. Each child more untalented than the one before with the exception of Cha-Cha. And the parents are so wild, but you're also feeling

with the parents. Of course. You're crying, you're laughing. It is so absurd. A father is throwing his daughter, his talentless daughter, a gala to show her as a triple threat.

She's 10. He's working her out on a pool float so that she could really get her cardio up to hit the high note. It's what. He's working her out on a pool float so that she could really get her cardio up to hit the high note. It's what we want. Where am I finding this?

Oh, God. Where did I even find it? Which dot com are we finding this? It's giving Discovery Plus. To me, it's giving the TV guide channel where they just show the show like up in the little like corner,

but you're mostly scrolling through what's on TV. Yeah. Raising a fucking star. I'm on TV. Raising a fucking star? I'm so sorry. Raising a fucking star on E! I like my kids a fucking star. I think you should

go and be a producer on that show and change the title. Raising a fucking star. And where is it? E! Oh, never forget E. It's actually real culture number 48. Never forget E.

Don't count E out. No, don't count E out. Because if you ever want to just sit your ass down and be entertained for hours on end, it's the new top model. I'm sorry, but Tyler Henry Hollywood Medium. Tyler Henry Hollywood Medium will give it to you from zero to a hundred,

like checking every box. Twink psychic, as I call him lovingly. Do you believe him? Do you believe him, Matt? Do I believe him? I believe that he, I believe that he is good at intuiting

and I think that there's something to that. Do I think ghosts are coming to chat with him for tea? No. Okay. I think it's a great touch that he doodles while the ghost is in the room. It's nice. That's actually a perfect thin layer of theater

where it's like, I, as a viewer, I'm like, oh, then that must be, that's so random. That must be important. Yes. Yes. Yes. Any type of prop. Someone brings like a prop. I'm like, oh, I believe that's an expert.

Do you have anything that belongs to the person? And the woman's like, yes. And they give like an old knitted scarf. It's like, oh, I wonder if this is a grandparent. And he's just in his like, in his mind, you can't hear it but he's saying himself I got these motherfuckers yeah do you think

that's what I was gonna ask you do you believe he believes I that's that's interesting that's really fun that's a really fun thing to think about

I think he I think he believes but I think I don't believe him when he says I don't do any research on the person that's my question

yeah also it's so random when he does know who the person that's my question yeah also it's so random when he does know who the person is like he came in and it was like literally like kim kardashian i was like hi it's nice to meet you i i had never heard this person and then he met lil kim and he was like oh my god lil kim i'm like mama which kim is famous because that doesn't even look like lil kim anymore you didn't know that' Kim. That woman had a full head transplant. She is on the call sheet, though. She's on the call sheet.

I wonder if he sees his call sheet. He's like, okay, who's today? Are the ghosts number one on the call sheet? Yeah, right. They're two through six. Number one is Scarf. Number two is Ghost number one. Well, you know what, though? number one is scarf number two is ghost number one yeah what I

well you know what though I did when he first came out like and it was like a thing and I think I said to Bo and I was like we should get him

this is when we were recording in person a lot I was like if we're ever in the same city as him get him on the pod we should do a podcast like an episode of

Lost Couch which is him reading us and then we'd see if we became believers because they can't edit it you know what i mean this is i'll tell you what i do he wouldn't agree to do it if anyway but yeah he probably wouldn't no he wouldn't but you know some people like when they like when long island medium goes to like oh she's for real she's the

real thing yeah when she goes to like kelly and she's like now who has a son who passed from the chest? Who passed from the chest? And like it's a woman like devastated already raising her hand. My daughter passed from the chest. Yes and she's connecting with you and she wants to know she forgives you and she has found peace. I need you to be the Long Island media from now on. I basically am.

Who passed from the chest? Who passed from the chest? Okay but can i say one thing about tyler just one quick anecdote which is that so alicia cuthbert went and did the show and we have the same makeup artist and she went with her and they get there and she's touching her up and then they said to our makeup artist kathleen you need to step in the other room and she's like well can i just stay here and watch the monitor because look we're reading but we're good you know of course the touch-ups and she said no no sometimes tyler gets pulled someone else's energy will pull and he won't be able to read the person so kathleen goes okay i'll

leave so she leaves she comes back and they don't see her now she's by the monitor and tyler says to alicia i'm seeing a sister who's passed from ovarian cancer and alicia's like no and my makeup artist kathleen oh my god tears and apparently he was talking about kathleen's sister and that's and he he pulled and he goes he was so confused that it wasn't alicia and then kathleen said she had to like raise her hand and then he spoke to her for a while so i don't know i'm just throwing that out there because i always found that something right i definitely want to believe it i want i really do i'm so molder about me too well i want to believe these things yeah i want to believe i'm molder i'm scully but i think bowen is more scully i'm a little scully i do bow i think you're more Gillian. Or is it Jillian Anderson?

I think it's Jillian. Soft G. Jillian. Yeah. I think that, because Bowen was the astrology skeptic too. And I came in being like, I'm open to the tides.

Now I'm like into it. You are, Bowen? I am. Yeah. We have an amazing astrologist that really opened my eyes to everything. I thought you said it really opened my ass. Well, that too. that really opened my eyes to everything. I thought you said it's really opened my ass. We have an astrologist that really opened my ass.

Every orphan. Every orphan. She's pride open to the stars. Open to the stars. Iconic. Who is this astrologist? Can you name them? Heidi Rose Robbins.

First of all, that's stunning. You can follow her on Instagram. Telling you. Heidi Rose Robbins. She's the most normal, lovely, gorgeous woman. I've been seeing her for 17 years. Wow. What?

Yes. And she has predicted things, all manner of things. Things that are dangerous to predict for someone. Yeah. She, I... Things that you're like,

don't say that to them. I was having trouble conceiving a child. And, you know, doing things, blah, blah, blah. No. And she looked me dead in the eyes and

said, you're going to be pregnant this year. Wait, what? And then? And then I was. Oh, my God. It had been many years struggle. Things where it's like, but she's so talented. And I again, I'm I'm a bit of a scully. And she turned my world around. And hence, like this is literally like right by the first thing I do in the morning. And then all of a sudden, and she turned my world around and hence like this is literally like right by the first thing i do in the morning and then all of a sudden here we are at the podcast recording and the tarot cards were i am laughing danielle but when you were like i pulled a crazy card and it was hope some of them are a little more like nuanced yeah that is a crazy card these days To pull hope from the desk I know

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We've been doing this for seven years. Moving. So we're going to open our mouths and flap our gums in a segment we call i don't think so honey which is a 60 second segment on our podcast that we use to employ and i don't think so honey which is a dragging of something in culture i do have something it's a hearkening back to earlier in the episodes but i don't think i can let this human being go any further without being dragged

publicly on this podcast we've alluded to not liking her that much before but she needs to be i don't think so honey oh my god this is incredible this is matt rogers's i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey robin dixon robin dixon it has to stop because oh my god i can tell that this is yours too i don't think so many robin dixon how come there couldn't be a family fund that you couldn't you couldn't again a tray of chicken what was happening you couldn't get a kickball we couldn't hire a ref where was juan dixon i was so pissed that juan dixon was not here right now because he could have been the referee he could have done something because god knows like what now you're just you're gonna put giselle in charge anytime giselle is in charge it's gonna

run into chaos and hell. A bouncy house. I actually looked it up. It's $300 for the day. Robin, I know money is tight every now and then, but, and I don't know what the current financial reality is, but you need to roll your ass out of bed.

First of all, we had you rolling out of bed from last season to what? Like, like, like get two potato sacks. I'm sorry, but it is not enough. We need to get you a Red Bull. We need to get Robin Dixon a cold brew. We need to wake her up. We need to splash some water on her face

and get her off to the races. Thank God you stuck up for tennis. It's the only useful thing you've done in seasons. I don't think so, honey. What? Wow. The way you both jumped back in your chair, you both threw yourselves across rooms.

It was so shocking. It was shocking. Because Robin herself has no energy. So to see energy put toward and at Robin was just so exhilarating. I didn't know where to go. And you went back. I went back.

I loved it. I don't necessarily agree, but that's for another day. That's for another day i i will say i agree oh my only no for potomac overall is that taglines are garbage this year they're so bad i got one totally wrong and i think it's actually better what was it i got wendy's wrong i know she's a friend of the pod yes but um but i thought she said you know what i think she said i don't have it written down anymore but it was like i'm like i've got a lot of power but

i've got no time and i thought it was i've got no time for me it's like that's so odd i've got a lot of power but i've got no time for me just like it's sad just sad i believe that because i was like well she really doesn't have a lot of time for herself but it was mean it turns out it was no time for me but I thought it was no time for me listen back to it but whatever the front of it rhymes

with me but I can't remember what it was I'm a Nigerian queen yes it was queen but I thought it was I'm a Nigerian queen with no time for me. Sad. Sad. That's all sad.

Yeah, the headlines really are rough. I think Candace's is good, but I also can't remember it. I think I wrote it down in my notes from last week's episode, but I...

What is it, Beau? It looks like my note. Well, I don't know what it is either, but the structure for the last three seasons, I think, has been my noun may be adjective

but my noun is adjective that's that's what it's been for years i love it a mad lib can you see them all with the whiteboard out just coming up with those i mean my favorite thing is to imagine their comedy rooms that they put together just to get pitched them all day. Like, do you ever buy Dr. Tiffany Moon's candles? My bit was that she put a comedy room together to put the packaging together. Because there's little jokes on the packaging. There's so many little jokes on them.

They're all named after, like, different drugs. Like, propranolol. Have you guys bought yourself any Fresh Wolf? No. I have not bought Fresh Wolf. I'm not interested in the kids. Okay. You're not interested in F kids okay and you're not

interested in fudge college fudge college is amazing fudge college is iconic salt lake i will say i can just correct the record i do love salt lake and i i'm loving lisa barlow even more than i ever have she's a star because matt told me and i think you're totally right, she's driving the story forward without looking like she's producing. Like, you know, Jen, Heather, and Meredith, I'll say, they do a little too much meddling where it's a little too puppet stringy. Whitney, too. Whitney's hoeing journey. Her hilling journey. Her, yeah.

Hilling. Hilling. My foolings were hurt, especially during my hauling journey is that like a utah accent what is that i don't know if it's botox or utah oh my god botox or utah is it botox or utah another title for you guys that's a great title that's's really good too. Wow, title machine over here. I had to name a lot of Hot Wives episodes. Yeah, honestly. But you guys are, you're pro-Robin, Danielle.

I love her because, again, I wouldn't think someone so sleepy I could get behind. Usually I like a more energetic wife. Yeah, I like her as ASMR. But there's something about it. It's like Stephen Wright is a comedian. You know what I mean? They're giving.

It's a very old reference. Just in a different way. Yeah. Yeah. She's a different kind of housewife. One that's barely awake. I know, but that's a new flavor. We haven't seen that sleepy flavor before.

I'm into it. We ordered her hats and we. Did you ever get them i finally did but when i tell you emails upon emails about we're gonna think about getting them to you it was so many updates and so many emails and just sent from her like not even like a mail chimp account like just like uh like robin dixon 24 26 like Like, just, like, a... It's like, Robin Dixon, 24, 26. Like, and she was just like, guys, I know I'm disappointing you.

And I'm sorry. And then she was like, if you really need them, you can email me. Yeah. As opposed to, like... Yeah, we bought them. We really need them. She's like...

Anything I spend my money on, I really need. You really need them. If you really need them. She was... Because it was the holiday season. She was like, if you re... Because everyone bought them for, like, gifts it was the holiday season. She was like, if you really, because everyone bought them for like gifts last year

for holidays. And she was like, like, if you really need it by Christmas, like I can do my best. I mean, one of my favorite things

Bowen said on the pod was Robin is $200,000 in debt. She can not put a hat in a box. She can't. She can't. No, she can't. She can't.

I mean, listen, are we all doing housewives? I don't think so. She can't. She cannot. Listen. Are we all doing housewives? I don't think so, honeys. Because I will gladly. Mine was a housewife. I don't think so, honey. But I don't know if there's any hard and fast rule.

Danielle and I were going to go together. We do have. It's a former housewife, though. Oh, you're going to go together. Yeah. I love it. Really cool. I really like that.

Okay. That's never done. Never done. But first. Yeah. You got it? Okay. This is Bowen Yang's. I don That's never been done. But first, you got it? Okay. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. His time on his birthday starts now. I Don't Think So Honey

trips to Arizona or to Zion. Thank you. People are going too much to this part of the country that I don't think people really need to see anymore. I think we understand what goes on there. And I'm not saying this in like a flyover state-y way as someone who grew up in Colorado.

I just mean that like pandemic is sort of like allowing travel to happen again to far-flung places. We're done with American destinations. I don't think we need to, I think we've also just like run the tank on those places across shows, across franchises. Let's go back to, I'll say, Turks and Caicos, not to overlap there.

Let's leave the country. Let's get these women their passports renewed just so that they can, for the betterment of their own lives. I feel like I'm a little bit bored of the mainland destinations. Go to Hawaii. Let's go to Alaska. At least, if you're not going to leave the U.S. That's what I have to say. And that's what I meant. I think that I completely agree with you. Even the Real Housewives of New Jersey

Nashville trip, that was fun. But it's so American that I'm like, let's go places. We know we can book Thailand. We can do other things. Jen Shah cannot leave the country as a convicted felon. But they can go to Hawaii. Then Jen stays home.

Hawaii, you're right. And Jen stays home. Yes, Bowen. They could go to Hawaii. They could go to Alaska. We could go to New York City would even be something. Give us something. These Airbnbs, they're all blending together with the grill and the taupe rugs.

I can't. I'm with you. I know. Or Mexico City. Have any of the women done Mexico City? You know, when we were there for New Year's, I think we even said out loud, this would be a good housewife's trip. Absolutely.

But Jen Shaw can't go. She cannot. I'm not saying for Salt Lake City. I'm saying for like a lot of this. I know we're coming out of pandemic stuff, but I feel like we got to mix it up again. I don't want to see an Airbnb. Me neither.

Not again. I can't. That culture to me, I'm all set. I'd like to see a hotel. I also think I'm a rap on skiing. Yeah. Me too. I don't want to see skiing anymore.

Like I feel like I see skiing on Beverly Hills, on Salt Lake. These women are always skiing. And I'm like, I understand this is a thing that like turns them on, but no more skiing for me. I'd like to see them at the beach. I'm a wrap on them all pedaling a bike together

and oh yeah a drink bike. I'm done. I'm done. Please. Done. Done. Done. They were trying so hard to like the Salt Lake City girls were quote unquote having so much fun. I'm like y'all don't. Y'all are gassing it. No meredith marks is not

throwing whipping alcohol in someone's face it was so painful no no no she is not it's just not her energy she would not engage in activities such as this um bowen i think that one's important for the culture thank you for offering it um so so we are to understand that Daniel and Casey will do a joint. I don't think so, honey. Huge. Yes. This needs the power of two voices because it's a big one. I think it does. The power of two voices is also a front runner for title of ep.

The power of two voices. Of two voices. Wow, I keep tossing them out. You're a machine. Okay, so this is a joint. this is for the first time ever in Lost Culture Isis history. Bowen, how exciting is that to say? In the seven years of this program,

we have not, the fact that there are still firsts, so, so refreshing. Well, this podcast has received critical acclaim and has been cited in academic work for the host's insight into the entertainment industry. That's on our Wikipedia page. We don't make the rules. Nor do we edit the page. but this is casey wilson and daniel schneider's i don't think so honey their time starts now i don't think so honey bethany frankel i think we've had enough

with the tutorials number one uh at least place yourself somewhere else than in your closet with messy kind of cabinet behind you i i'm all set with your new podcast idea danielle take it from here i don't need it this new podcast idea how dare you first of all is it a conflict of interest for us of course it is save some for the rest of us we liked you when you were sort of humanitarian but you claim to hate housewives you say you're done with it you've moved on You don't need to be doing a rewatch. And you've named it Rewives? I can't even understand it.

Also, you have to come. When you are doing a Housewives podcast, and I say this, you have to come from it with love. And you have such detest. You look on the Housewives with disgust. Disgust. And now you're trying to make a buck off them.

And I know you have a beauty line coming. That's why you're tearing everyone else's down. luann delcep said this is a failed pivot and that should be the name of my new memoir but it is another failed pivot wow and that is one minute and that is this is this is something we really need to hear because when i heard she was doing this i too thought it was capital p pathetic yes she's lost she's lost she's lost. She's lost. She's lost. I thought in the words of what she said to Jill, Jill Zarin many years ago, get a hobby, Bethany Frank. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Yeah, she's really spinning the wheels. And if you ever watch her on TikTok, that is a film that I would like to see one of these actresses we mentioned earlier take on. Oh, yeah. Just like a 90-minute film of Bethany Frankel, the rise and fall of the past six months of her on TikTok. Taking on the establishment because she felt she was shadow banned.

Committing to her small following. Ultimately deciding this isn't for me. I'm going to do a podcast. Yes. It went from makeup tutorials. Those makeup tutorials are insane. The lighting. I've only seen the lighting on them in quick little moments I'm like oh the setup is

all wrong yeah and also it's like it's okay to be like the makeup tutorial is fucked it's not like a comment on appearance or anything because when you come up with like like for example like when you're doing a weight loss thing and you show a before and after like the drop it with through of it all and you show a before and after and the before and after looks the same.

That's not us commenting on your physique. That's us commenting on your business. It looks like so you've literally showed us a before and after. So now it's fair game. Bethany Frankel in horrid lightings doing a makeup tutorial and then not looking good. That is fair game for us to be able to say, hey, mama, I don't know. A woman who brought a skinny girl is now attacking Photoshop and women's body image. It's I'm I'm upset with myself that I didn't include that in my minute.

She's trying to pivot and say, like, well, skinny girl really isn't about weight. Like it's like she's as opposed to. Yeah. You know what? That was at a time when I thought that was important. Like either own it or don't own it. But she she's like trying to ride that line in the middle and sorry no we don't believe totally i appreciate her humanitarian work but it's interesting because i find it interesting she can so show such great compassion but it's

always not to actual people you know people who are like dog people or she add or remove i think she seems to have a very big she has a very big heart and it's amazing but there's something like in person she's the least warm human oh no it's it's um she is and like one of those enneagrams or whatever that where it's like she is an achiever and she's an individualist where it's like her she's like putting the achievement in like a sort of like altruistic thing of like here i'm helping the people of puerto rico out but it's like i i and i don't i don't like to accuse anyone of this but it feels self-serving you know well i think anything she does like even i'm glad she's doing it fine let it be self-serving but it is like right we can't acknowledge that like she is helping i'm glad she is continue to do that continue to self-serve but it is serving herself yeah yeah but i think that the difference is that when it is a

large group of amorphous people she's not seeing it's like she she can commit to that but then in basic humanity one-on-one interactions she's actually quite cruel and like it's it goes beyond just like oh that's something nasty on housewives like luanne like i think when she came up for air years later and was like oh no the worst thing anyone's ever done to me was bring the cameras into that room and show me a text that obviously she had like she had premeditated this and on camera she showed me my husband was cheating on me and i begged her not to i said don't do this and like of course now it made an iconic scene question mark you know it made an iconic scene how could you do this to me question mark but but that was the worst moment of her life

wow i will say and this is a sketch that no one has to watch no one i'm not doing that thing where i'm like i wrote a sketch we did a sketch last night me and sar watch. No one. I'm not doing that thing where I'm like, I wrote a sketch. We did a sketch last night with me and Sarah Sherman where we're jurors and we're screaming and everything. We're reacting in this very like... I'll watch every minute. No, no, no. Please, please don't. But it's it was from the source of it all was

Sarah and I were laughing at that moment in that string of episodes when Bethany tells Ramona about the cheating and then Ramona goes, like Ramona just screams and runs to the bathroom and she's like look at me she's looking at herself in the mirror look at me look at me

so funny look at me I'm crying is so Sarah Sherman came on as well and she killed me. I love her so. She said Lisa Rinna's hair

at Sutton Strax was blown back by the speed of light. Blown back by the speed of light. Sarah's a star. A star. And she and Bowen are sisters at the show.

Love, love, love, love her. Well, this has been pretty much everything I could have ever wanted it to be it's been a long time coming for you guys to be on you will return this was so much fun and hey where can people get your podcast all your podcatchers eee

eee netflix.com netflix.com Netflix.com you're both so lovely and warm I love listening to you you're just such a highlight

and a light in this world truly not an exaggeration no I love you guys so much and even though we were both

against each other for the People's Choice Awards some years back oh wow what a moment in history and we do we both lose?

we both lost who won did it was it like reasonably shady i think something else something else like doctors in the house or something well they deserve it i don't know what it was danielle danielle bought a dress the day we were nominated yeah i bought a dress and then they were like yeah only for us to find it we were not invited to the oh okay but that's okay it's an excuse to buy a dress of course absolutely you were nominated for pca yeah and also wait did wait one more thing did you know i just did melissa gorga's podcast and we are we are the best of friends now no and i know i'm gonna get drunk with her and her husband

oh you don't think she's gonna be unmasked as a villain this year? I don't care. Oh! Okay, okay. Because I am like anti-Theresa. I'm allergic to Teresa. Wow. Okay. Yeah, no, I'm not Teresa Hive.

But I guess that's for part two. Wow, wow, wow, wow. You guys are the best. Daniel and Casey, thank you so much for doing the show. Thank you for having us. We end every episode with a song and today is a major day. It's Bowen Yang's birthday, so we sing the most

famous song in the world for him. Happy birthday to you. This is one of the most famous songs. Happy birthday to you. You can make alterations. To you. This is one of the most famous songs. Happy birthday. I'm sticking to myself. You can make alterations. To you.

Like that. Happy birthday. This part gets hard. Birthday. Dear Boat. One of America's greatest treasures. National treasure. Happy birthday.

To you. Yeah. greatest treasures national treasure happy birthday to you and what do I want for Christmas just you I want for Christmas really really want it becomes like a mash up of songs come back

that song is good. That is a great song. One of the best songs ever written. I love that song. Have you heard Brandy's? The Life of a Housewife. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Life of a Housewife. It's a rap song though. By Brandy Glanville? That's right. By Brandy Glanville herself. Oh my God. So everyone's going to go stream that one right now.

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My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. I was a desperate delusional dreamer. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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