Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - It's Time! (w/ Mariah Carey)

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

It's a moment. Mariah Carey? She's on Las Cultch, darling. Matt & Bowen adorn themselves with festive garb to welcome Queen of Christmas, adverb legend and all around music GOAT to the pod. M & B ask MC when to expect the follow up to Caution (and get an answer!), Mariah's "sensory" songwriting process and BTS of the creation of classic songs like "Hero". The three go on to discuss the iconic "Heartbreaker" music video villain BIANCA and her origins, how the Grammys trifle with Mariah and it's unacceptable, the formative Butterfly album's impact, how The Emancipation of Mimi put Mariah back on top, performing on SNL way back in 1990, memories from Mariah's iconic Tokyo Dome show, setting the convention of hip hop features on pop tracks, and the emotional rollercoaster that was writing and recording her terrific memoir The Meaning of Mariah Carey. Also, the inspiration of Michael Jackson, Prince and Marilyn Monroe, the difficulty growing up biracial on Long Island, potentially rebooting Divas Live, beating Tina Fey at Mean Girls trivia, and casting the role of Mariah in Lee Daniels's adaptation of her memoir. Mariah reveals her top 3 favorite Disney rides, talks vocal stacking alongside the incredible Brandy, and ponders dropping her grunge album already! All this, Hoda and Jenna's emotional morning on Today, "Boxing Day" and Mariah's already iconic I Don't Think So, Honey on overhead lighting! Check out Mariah's newest collab with Amazon Music: it's a holiday decor line available October 31st at Amazon.com/MariahCarey! AND THEN A HERO *CAME* ALONG! We love you, Mariah. "Gimmeyalove" :)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And now, Los Culch Drums. Look Matt! Where? Oh I see! Wow! Bowen look over there. Wow is that culture? Yes! Los Culcheristas! Ding Dong! Los Culcheristas Calling! That culture, yes. Oh my goodness. Wow. Las culturistas. Ding dong, las culturistas calling. And this feels like the culmination.

I don't know what to say. I think we pack it up after this. After this, it's up to the graveyard with us. Yeah, and to all the haters, y'all won. Yeah, y'all won and also it's fine. It's fine. We did the thing we needed to do for our life to be complete. We've peaked personally, professionally, journalistically.

Yes, and we're giving a festive moment today in honor of our guest. It is, of course, September 26th at this time of recording. So it's not yet. It's not yet on not yet because it's really not yet. It's really not yet. But as we approach its T-word, you know, it's just the anticipation is building. I am just even donning this Princess Diana sweater

with the lammily on it, as it were. I'm feeling the festive spirit, even though it's not yet. So those who know, the real ones know, okay, I wanna take you back. It's April 11th, 2000, Madison Square Square Garden my very first concert of my entire life My parents got me for my birthday Mariah Carey the rainbow tour Which really was a narrative about trying to hunt down Bianca. Yes I do want to find out if we ever got a word that B word

The character from perhaps the greatest music video of all time. You know, the other day I'm digging in my artifacts and I find this. What did we do? So this is the cassette of Mariah Carey, Boys 2 Men, One Sweet Day, which I would play the F out in the car with my mother on Long Island. That is a warranty. We have that in common as well. in the car with my mother on Long Island. That is a warning. And to say that this is Wish Fulfillment is Beyond, because this podcast exists and we of course ask all of our guests

what was the culture that made me say culture was for me. For me, that is our guest. And I cannot believe you're here. We did meet briefly at Peloton. Yes. It was not necessarily an exchange of words. It was more an exchange of, what would you call it? Support. I think you helped our guests down from the podium

from which she said it's T-word that year. The T-word being time. The T-word being time. But it was a perfect prelude to this moment, which I think has been In the Stars, destined for time eternal. It's a major moment. I'm gonna make it through. I think has been in the stars, destined for time eternal. It's a major moment. I'm gonna make it through.

I can make it through the rain. You can make it through the rain. Eventual tears. But as a card carrying, platinum card carrying member of the Lammily, and I know I speak for so many people that are listening and watching this right now, we are so excited to welcome the greatest of all time, Mariah Carey

You really are here. I'm here Here the prequel to it's time right? Well, yeah, there's the not yet, right? Yeah, and then maybe I'm just like waving up at the world going. I'm here Is it ever too early? When do you start decorating? I wonder I Wait, you wait. Yeah,? I wonder. I wait. You wait. Yeah. Actually, I wait till I'm done with the tour.

Yeah. Okay. And then it's trees and ornaments. I like your ornaments. Thank you. Well, it's from the Amazon Music collaboration with Mariah on October 31st. Go to amazon.com slash Mariah Care. You can buy ornaments, snow globes,

exclusive tour merch and apparel. I mean, talk about the snow globes. How did you pick out the scenery and the dioramas of the snow globes? Yes, the dioramas. The dioramas. This is a vocabulary podcast. My gosh, you guys win.

So the snow globes with the MC logo. And it's glittery snow, I would call that, right? Yeah, I would say. It's glittery snow. And that's my little caricature of me and some reindeer. And I just, I thought it would look pretty with this kind of the gold down here. I love it, the adornments. The adornments.

It's very Bricoco. The adornments. I have to say, every time I use a word that makes you laugh, I feel very happy. You know you're a vocabulary legend. You're a vocabulary legend. You're adverb queen. I mean, I kind of like used to be, but I don't, it's not that I don't try anymore, but I don't, I don't know what the word is.

I just say, I don't know what the word is. I just say I don't know what the word is. Well, you know that you really had me saying the word nonchalantly in third grade. Nonchalantly. People were like, hey, Matt, what do you want to play at recess today? I'm nonchalant about it just because of your songs. Because of Breakdown. I listened to that the other day, and I was like,

I guess I'm trying to be nonchalant about it. Who did I think I was? You knew you like, I guess I'm trying to be nonchalant about it. Who did I think I was? You were Mariah, you knew you were Mariah. I'm Mariah nonchalant. I was using incessant before I even knew what the word incest, but I just heard incessantly and I was like, well, if Mariah is using it. It rhymed, that's why I got away with it.

And not for nothing, but incessantly in a number one hit song. They're not using words like that anymore in number one hit songs. They're not using words like that anymore in number one hit songs. They're not. No! I don't think so. I think, you know, in this TikTok age, it's like everyone's got to be quick

and it's got to be monosyllabic. You can't throw a Lee or anything in there. Right. The Lee's get them. The Lee's get them. But I think the Lee's rhymes with the me's, and I feel like you are singing from your point of view. And so therefore it works. It's the puzzle piece. It's the puzzle piece.

We were reading in Vanity Fair in this recent interview that... By Rob Lodoni, friend of mine. Friend of the pod. It's been six years since Caution. Yeah, can't believe that. One of my favorite albums in the last decade. Brilliant. Truly, truly, truly. Thank you.

It didn't get the push and promotion that it deserved. Agree. And sad about that. You know. Am I? Yeah. Are you? That was Bangers on Bangers.

I was, I remember it was in like Gowanus and you did that sit down, like that was really focused on your songwriting and it was like around the release of Caution, I actually went with my friend Mariah Smith. Oh yeah. And so it was me and Mariah watching Mariah. And it was like, that album was total fire and it really was, that conversation was about your songwriting.

And I think that like, that's what I get most excited about when it comes to you. And so when we're asking about the new music, I just want to know like, are writing now like what's happening like what's inspiring you? Yes I am writing now but the more I talk about new music and that I'm doing this and it's probably coming out in whatever a year or two years everybody gets mad at me because they're like why are you telling us this and then it doesn't come out in a year and then it's you know I mean we're mad at you some people be mad no

They just need to let you work. It just does feel like you know six years We already 2025 is the year. I'm saying it and I will concur Concur is not a commitment like if it if it gets pushed, we'll understand. Yes, it really does need to happen. Yeah. Yes, we agree. We are over here agreeing. We had caution on during a drive up state,

I remember in 2018. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was just like, damn, every track, you know? I mean, I feel like you have this quality as a vocal producer where you, where you are clearly working with these collaborators that you love, like you're Dermaine Dupree and you're Brian Michael Cox's, but it's like, when do you know as an artist

that your stamp is on it, that it's done, it's ready to go? Because I imagine that this process is like capturing a cloud and trying to put it down into words or a sound or something. What is your signature as a vocal producer? Hmm. Well, it takes a while. I run it down once and then I'm like, okay, that was cute.

And then, you know, I don't know how long I take a while, you know, so that I can live with it and just really let it sink in. And then I'll know like, okay, there's about five words that I want to redo the way I sang that. You know, I didn't like that. Or it's okay, but I want to try something different. Right. And that's a different process from like the songwriting of it because, right? Like, that's just getting it down. It's how do I say it? It's an interesting like, like a sandwich. Okay. Yes. Yes. Famously stacked. Famously stacked. But yeah, it's because it's so important to write the song first, and then if you don't take your time, and it's part of the process to do that,

like, go in, change this, go in, change that, you know? I mean, you were talking about how Hero was one of the songs that came the fastest to you on a writing level, but then I imagine the production of that was a longer process. It actually went... The whole thing was sort of like... At the same time, it happened at the same time, because they were explaining to me about Dustin Hoffman's new movie that was called Hero.

And then I took a walk to the loo and started hearing then, then the Hero comes along, and with a strength to carry on and Walked back in and said to Walter A who I used to work with I was like this is how the song goes like can you start playing it? Yeah, and and humming to him the It's wild that that can come to you so quickly and then it becomes one of the most famous hooks of all time. Does that ever, like, feel strange?

It's like, one of the things that you thought of really on the way to and from the Lou, then becomes that thing that, like, really hits hard and maybe something you work on for a very long time, like, doesn't... Doesn't get to that point. Yeah. Well, I wasn't trying to write this big heroic

like word, anthem. An anthemic heroic moment. I wasn't searching for that. Yeah. But it, you know, it kind of happened. It's what arrived. But then some songs I am working on, you know, longer and maybe I'll end up liking them better like a song like fly like a bird like I love that song and Yet it's not hero in terms of like how Major hero was in terms of success. Yeah, but I still love it. It's a Grammy winner. Yes You don't have enough of those by the way five But I still love it. It's a Grammy winner. Yes, it is. You don't have enough of those, by the way. Five?

I'm like, come on now. They trifle with you. They really do. They play with you, the Grammys. They toy with me. Can I ask what's a better vocal performance in terms of pop music than Heartbreaker? Can we talk about the end breakdown of Heartbreaker? I really want to get into this. There's four different vocal lines of you coming on at the same time that all call back to different parts of the song.

I remember hearing that song for the first time and being like, I don't know how she did this again, but yet of course. Just like, that stacking that happens at the end. It's pure vocal performance. It's incredible. And I wonder, is that, like, something you're particularly proud of? Because to me, that is pop excellence. Thank you Thank you. I mean, Heartbreaker is everything. I appreciate that very much because it's one of my favorites that I've done. And that ending was just me figuring out like, the song is written over a loop. So in order to do like all those different parts, it wasn't that difficult

because it's all, it was pretty much the same as the song itself because of the way it's written over a loop. So then doing the little parts and having them interwoven with each other was just what, it's like what I like to do. So yeah. And just pulling it out and like isolating those hooks was just like a genius way to end that song. And that last, give me a love, is just like, it's just like that little cherry on top that like you could live happy for the rest of your day when you're when you've listened to that. And just to speak to that moment and also that tour. So when you're doing that song, do you see the video at the same time? Because that's probably one of the best music videos ever. You versus Bianca. The heartbreaker music video. Yeah and I

want to know where she is now. I know we gotta find her. She was low down. And there was a girl on the set who was actually she was like a stand-in. Yeah. She was from a different country and she had an accent, and she's a pretty girl, you know? And we're there, and everybody's throwing popcorn. Like, you know, we're throwing the popcorn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she got so mad. She's a stand-in to be there and whatever.

The girl had popcorn on top of her hair, glued on top of her hair. Like, that's what it was supposed to be there and whatever. The girl had popcorn on top of her hair glued on top of her hair. Like that's what it was supposed to be. And she got so mad, she walked out. No, not her being a diva on your set. Her being a diva on my set, yes. No, no, no.

Yes. The injustice. The injustice. Adding hours to the day. It did. And then I went out to her trailer and was like, hi, we really didn't mean to do anything to upset you or, you know, da da da. She was just like, oh wow. She was really giving Bianca.

She was. So, you know, Bianca, we were inspired all the more for Bianca. That conflict, that, that, that, that, that. Where did the name Bianca come from? I just made it up. Yeah, as you want to do. It's another word that is pulled from whatever. Yes, an immaculate conception.

I wanted to just say and also ask in addition, the Butterfly album. I think that... I don't know if this is true, but I would guess that of all the Lambs, like and all the fans that come up to you or across the world, that that's one that probably comes up a lot. I know for me, I listened to it at a time when I was like really like discovering myself

and it will always be so important to me. And I guess I just wanted to ask about that album. Like, does that have special significance to you as it does to your, I know your fans, that particular album? It definitely has very special significance to me. I think it's probably my best album. I don't know how that doesn't have all the accolades from all those awards. It has zero accolades.

Zero, I don't get it. I think, I'm pretty sure it has zero accolades. I was looking earlier just to check, and I was right, you had some nominations for it, but not anywhere near the respect that that album deserves for not only what it did in terms of like the metamorphosis of you as an artist in your career, but I know how it inspired so many artists. So many. I mean, I love that album. It has a certain feeling when you listen to it.

Like, and then there's the... It's just got a lot of diversity. Like, it's, I don't know, ego from Breakdown to Butterfly to My All. My All is... I mean, we all know, but like, it's just like, I again, hit play on it and I listened to a lot of the discography this morning, happily, in getting ready for this, but just like, honey, just the way that the album starts, you know we're in a new era. You know what I mean?

That's true. It's innovative. It's just, it's one of those albums that... We had Kelly Clarkson in this chair, like, a year ago. you Oh, really? Yes. She loves my all. Oh wow. Yeah, that's so nice Yeah, but I mean like just that album and particularly the roof I was so happy that you got so he was talking about the roof. No, no Kelly was talking about my No, no, Kelly was talking about my all. Okay. I'm talking about the roof. Okay.

But she could be talking about the roof because I said- That's not as well known. No, but you know what though? It's intimate. The Lambs know. It's very intimate. That's a number one hit for the Lambs, I'm telling you. So back in the day, we did on this podcast,

we did a book club reading of The Meaning of Mariah Carey. Oh really? Yes we did. Oh wow. And because it is my favorite book and it is like, I think it's a piece of music history. It's a piece of music history. It's the best celebrity memoir.

It's like, it just has- 100%. The audio book is the best celebrity audio book. Did you like the audio book? Yeah, of course. Where was the Grammy for that? Oh, yeah. Spoken word. They could have had, yeah.

Yeah, they could have. Stop playing in this woman's face. Yeah, it's really ridiculous. Not that it matters what you think, but like in a world where it would be nice. It would be nice, wouldn't it? Anyway, like they had it right in the beginning, but anyway, like what I'm saying is... You mean the first...

The best new artist! They got it right the first year and then they were like, let's continue to sleep on her, I guess. Like as if you weren't leagues ahead of everyone else. In all respect to everyone else. But anyway... we love everybody. We love everybody, a famous line. We love everybody. I just remember you talking about the roof. And that was such...

It almost felt validating for me as a kid. Because the roof was not a track I could get over. It was like, you could feel the discovery. Like even just in the lyrical imagery, the rain hitting your skin, the way that you were waking up. I honestly think in that moment I was like waking up to being queer and who I was. It's just such a vivid, beautiful song. And I want to say there actually was a moment where I was in third grade and we would go in and we would, we would have writing time. Like you could write anything in your journal. So I just wrote the lyrics to the roof.

And then we had to hand the journals in. So my teacher read. Hated me. No, no, no. She must have been listening to someone else at the time. Maybe she had been playing Celine Dion because she thought it was my writing. And she goes, I don't know what you're going through, but you are a beautiful writer.

Oh, I love that. But literally, it's me talking about, like, you know, like having this experience. Finish the Moet. Finish the Moet. I probably spelled it like M-O-A-Y. I know, it's like, why do you pronounce it that way? I'm like, that's just how I always... Yeah, I mean, but listen, like it worked,

but I probably should have wrote Sprite or something. Right. But just to know that like, that's the kind of song that is. Like, I didn't have to get it to really get it and have it be meaningful to me. And that's like a testament to your writing and that album and what must have been such an incredible breakthrough creatively for you at that time. Thank you. Yeah, it definitely

was. Just to be able to be free to write and perform in the way that I wanted as opposed to other people saying, do this. Even if I wrote Hero, that doesn't mean that's the only song or type of song that I wanted To write right and you were very famous for that type of song for a long duration of time right I guess Yeah, and then all of a sudden this like new person came out because you felt I Don't know emboldened or how would you? Liberated yeah, a good vocab word. It's in the song we're talking about. That's the only reason I remember.

Oh yeah, of course. Started feeling liberated. Yeah, I mean, iconic. But then your music got funnier too, I think. Do you think that that is, there's a link there? Because all of a sudden you started making jokes. I had jokes. But how do you feel about the jokes now? You're, you're, are you thinking?

No, I do. I still do. I just haven't put out a new album in six years, as you pointed out. And look, as someone who does not believe in time. Yeah, I do. What's time? What is time? You don't know what that is. So then, so then it's, it's irrelevant, right? It's like, and it's also like part of the process. It's like, it needs time to cook, it needs time to develop. And so it's all, it's all,

you got to baste it. It requires basting. It requires basting. It requires basting. It's like Thanksgiving. You know? And then at the end you get a fabulous meal with people that you love. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Do you like Thanksgiving or are you wanting to rush through it to get through your season? I like Thanksgiving as well. I'm just, I'm very, you know the word, I'm going to say festive. Yes. And that includes the Turkey Day, of course.

Yeah. Because you're festive for Halloween, you're festive for Thanksgiving, you're festive for Christmas. Yes. Yes. Valentine's Day? And Fourth of July. Well, yes. Of course. Another great Yes. And Fourth of July. Well, yes.

Of course. Another great track. Thank you. I have a song called Fourth of July. Yeah, they know. If you don't know, it's ridiculous. Why are you listening to this? I actually, I made, I remember I made,

at the time of doing the- The audio book. The audio book, I made playlists for everyone who like for some reason didn't know. And this is my intermediate Mariah playlist ready the roof hate you Clown one of the great tracks. I love clown is so good and we agree with you Ex-girlfriend

Corrin by Candy Burris. Yes. Wow. We love candy. We love candy forever the distance Co-written by Candy Burris? Yes. Wow. We love Candy. We love Candy. Forever, The Distance, Your Girl. I love Your Girl. Your Girl, are you kidding me? Vanishing, Sweetheart, and All I've Ever Wanted. Those are my, those are my- Wait, it's so funny that Vanishing is on there after John just said-

I know, right? We were talking about Vanishing just over there because of your incredible performance of it on Saturday Night Live all those years ago. Hello. Hello. That was a fun moment. Patrick Swayze was the host?

Yes. Ugh. And that was like early, that was like the beginning. The very beginning of the show. Yeah. If you were to walk back in there in that space, like you would just, you would have even more of a command on it, I think, right? Like, I feel like it's... No, I think I had less, what's it called?

I wasn't quite as nervous back then for some reason. I don't know why. Totally. I mean, it makes it like, I understand what you mean because I feel like there's this thing that, at least as it relates to SNL, people say that like, oh, the longer you stay there, the more nervous you are, which is, it shouldn't work that way.

It should work in the inverse, where it's like, oh, you should be more comfortable in the end. Like something about like being on display or just having your work be like, I'm just talking about your work be celebrated, must mean that like there is this comfort that people are expecting from you. And it's a lot to provide that. I imagine. Especially so early on in one's career.

Right. You know, did you feel like it was very fast? Because in the book you talk about sort of it was only a few years into your career that it was the Tokyo show that you really realized just how international and how big you were, but before that it was not. Well, because the Tokyo show was in a gigantic, Tokyo Dome was ginormous. Yeah. So, you know, I found myself there and it wasn't like being at, even like on Saturday Night Live,

which is bigger in many ways, but this was. Spatially huge. And across the world. Yes. You know? And a totally different type of fan, probably responding in a different way. Were they a very like engaged crowd?

Did they know the words in their own way or? Well, my experience at that time was that everybody had to kind of be polite. People in Japan were very polite. And so it was like, you know, I would sing whatever the song was, and then it would just be. Yeah, just like applause and then we're done.

Done. Punctuated. And somebody came up to me and said, please don't think that we're not appreciative of your music, this is just our culture and how, it was so don't think that we're not appreciative of your music. This is just our culture and how, you know, it was so nice that they did that. Because I'm sitting there like, I don't know why. Was that the show too where, or maybe not that show, but there was another show

where you were trying to teach the crowd, Always Be My Baby. I think you performed it for the first time. I think it was that one. And it was the, da da da da, and you were trying to get them to do it and they were just like, we're not. We can't match that. We can't match this freak.

Probably another one of your greatest ever, Always Be My Baby. Oh, thank you. How do you feel about just this standard now in the industry, in the music industry that you've set, which is, or this convention really where it's like, a beautiful vocal can be paired with a great hip hop feature.

You know, like those two things are complementary, which no one at the time that you sort of innovated on that thought would work at all. Yeah, Fantasy, Heartbreaker pioneered that. Yeah. That was, I mean, Heartbreaker pioneered that. Yeah. That was, I mean, there were other ones too. I'm trying to think of all the records I did, like Jadakiss and... I mean, even Breakdown at the time.

Breakdown, Bone Thugs and Harmony. I mean, that was definitely unexpected. That is such a huge part of your legacy. Like, how does that sit with you watching literally everybody sort of follow the blueprint that you've set? It's so interesting. But I, you know, I didn't even say ODB, which, you know, fantasy, probably the biggest, one of the biggest ones I've had. And I really, I wanted so much to work with hip-hop artists I really did I wanted to do my thing and then be able to listen to their vocals yeah you know I mean and so then luckily I was

able to do it but a lot of people told me oh this could be the end of your career you know don't do this that That the world had to be separate. Yeah. So crazy now because in music, it feels like what is genre? Right. It's wild. Like you see like, you know, Beyonce's album, Cowboy Carter, like, yes, it's country, but it's also rock. It's also Americana.

It's pop. It's all these things. Now it feels like if you're not blending genre. What are you doing? Right. And having that moment at the Grammys with you and Miley last this year felt like such a perfect encapsulation of that, too. And it makes me it makes everyone really excited for whenever the new stuff is coming, not to bring it back to this. But it's like, I think you can.

You are really going to take advantage of this sort of blending. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I agree. And I loved that moment with Miley. Yeah, she's the best. She was so great. And so she sent me flowers. Yeah, well, she sent me beautiful flowers after that. And I was like, she's incredible. When she gave you your props there, I mean, like she was like, no, you have to stay right here. I think because I would imagine that she looks up to you and like feels

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Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Tereza. And guess what?

Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's urgent,

and tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. and better than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shankar, and I'm a scientist who studies human behavior. Many of us have experienced a moment in our lives that changes everything. A moment that instantly divides our life into a before and an after. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I talk to people about navigating these very moments.

The last couple of years has been the hardest season of our marriage for sure. I'm surprised our marriage survived it. I think we both are. I think we both were barely holding on. Nothing compares to how hard this is. Their stories are full of candor, awe, and hard-won wisdom. And you'll hear from scientists who teach us how we can be more resilient in the face of change.

True behavior change is really identity change. Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become. Listen to A Slight Change of Plans on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll.

This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Hey fam, I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday we bring you conversations with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award winning rapper, Eve, on her new memoir and the moments that made her.

It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh wow, it was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to the Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or

wherever you get your podcasts. us. Mariah Carey, we have to ask you the question. That's the centerpiece of our podcast. The centerpiece. The centerpiece. The snow globe, the Christmas snow globe of our podcast. Mariah Carey, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? That formative pop culture, whether it be music, movies, it can be anything

that you can look back and be like, Mariah was becoming Mariah because of that thing. Well, there's a few things. Yes. Give it to us. I would have to say looking at from the time I was little, little, Michael Jackson when he was a kid. And then when he did like on Motown 25, when he was there making like history, not the album, but making history. Yes. You know, just being himself, being on there, moonwalking, doing everything.

I mean, it was just a moment where everybody was just watching that. And also Prince, I love Prince. And it's so sad that he's no longer with us. It truly is. Yeah. I still listen to Prince all the time. Yeah. And yeah, I would say like Little Red Corvette.

Yeah, I'm a banger. Yes. So good. So good. And then, you know, my mother always loved Marilyn Monroe. Ah. And I walked into her room one time and she was watching, like when they would

do those talking about like Marilyn was this and that because she had passed away years ago. And she was watching one of those retrospectives. And at that point they were looking at gentlemen prefer blondes. And I didn't know who she was. I just saw this like doll-like woman. And I was like, oh my gosh. And I was a kid. And my mother told me who she was. And then from then on, I was a huge fan of hers and looked up all her, you know, stuff from her life, books about her, books by Norman Mailer. Just like incredible.

So. That's three very good answers. I mean, I feel like the thing that ties them all together, too, is they all have such iconography. You know what I mean? Like you look at them and you say, that's Marilyn. There's only one. That's Prince. There's only one. That's Michael. There's only one. And you see you think of him doing the moonwalk and you immediately that's a monoculture moment. And so do you think that that imprinting on them had something to do with the fact that

you felt like almost othered and that you would grow to be, you knew you could grow to become an individual and there was something about them being so singular that you identified with? I promised myself I would grow to be someone that had a successful career. Because I did feel so othered and being of mixed race, coming from a family that was very dysfunctional, that was a difficult road for me. And so I kind of had to adapt this this strength that was like, you know,

I'm going to do this. I'm not going to tell anybody that I'm going to do this, but this is what I'm going to do. Move in silence. Move in silence. Real G's do it. Yeah. Move in silence until we're using our five octave range and then we're actually taking up some space. But yeah, between the three of those, it's like there's vocal trademark, there's artistic

trademark, there's aesthetic trademark. It's like, and those all kind of converge in you. And like, I mean, you really are just a singular, all-time great person. And who's created all this joy. I mean, like, you know, you've created this world and this feeling that people will never detach from that they'll always carry with them. It's really incredible. Thank you.

I think also people don't realize how tough Long Island can be. Yeah, talk about the Long Island of it all. I mean, like it is though. Like, you know what I mean? Like it's like- Strong Island. Strong Island, baby. Are you a seafood person? I know you love your linguine with white clam sauce. Like it is though. Like you know what I mean? Like it's like strong island baby Are you a seafood person? Um, I know you love your linguine with white clam sauce. Oh, yeah, that was my dad's recipe. That's why

Why what do you think? I'm just a seafood person like it's a long island thing. I'm just saying we're by the sea Where in long? I'm from Iceland, but my parents grew up in Lindenhurst. So I'm a South Shore kid. Oh, okay. Why do you laugh? I laugh because I had such a traumatic experience growing up in a place that's so racist. And that was a thing where, you know, my mother always wanted to live there

or different places around there. And I had to be there. So I didn't love it. Right. To the point where like, you know, you go, oh, the struggles that I've been through sort of define who I am. But it's like there are certain things and experiences and settings in life where you go, I could have I think I could have done without that.

Yeah. A few things. Yeah. I mean, that's a good bleak about what you can read in the book, but like, I honestly think it's so important that you speak so truthfully about that stuff, because I think when we listen to your music, like when we listen to the song Outside,

when we listen to Close My Eyes, and this is stuff that you really opened up about in Butterfly and maybe sort of hinted at in your earlier work, but never really got into the darkness and then you started to let us in. In reading the book, that's just, it obviously had to be painful to be explicit about those things

and also to know that there's other people's feelings and their people are gonna have opinions about what you say. But it's so important to be so truthful because I mean, people feel seen by it. And I want to know, like, do you feel like you felt like a reconnection to your fans again, who had already felt that way about your music, and then the book made them come back,

and like, was it even more emotional? I loved writing the book. I collaborated with Michaela Angela Davis. Yeah, amazing. And she's awesome. I mean, when I read the book for the audience, for Audible, it was 11 hours of rereading the book. So all the time spent writing the book

and then reading it over and having, you know, what's the guy that comes and... The editor? Yes! James is his name. Hi, James. Hey. Hey, it's time. It's time.

You know, just going through this stuff with the editor and doing all that and then being like, I'm gonna spend 11 hours doing this, speaking this book. And it was right at the beginning of COVID. And so that was that. And yeah, I actually really loved the whole process, the process of writing and reading it aloud.

Did it feel therapeutic? Yeah, it definitely felt therapeutic. I mean, I was crying when I was writing. It was a lot of just intense emotional kind of feelings. But yeah, it was, it's still, I still, you know, when I see the book and people come and ask me to sign it and everything like that, I'm just like, you know, I feel proud that I, we did this. Yeah. You know?

Cause it's an opportunity for people to connect with like the truth about your life. And I imagine reading the audio book felt like, almost like it is a performance like besides the singing of of the lyrics and your work and The thing that people connect to it is like you reading about your life experience is its own kind of Showmanship or something. Yeah. Well, it's a lot of exposure Yeah, you know you're exposing your life and these details that you already put out there and wrote,

but then now you're gonna read it. And yes, sometimes I sang, sometimes I, you know, figured out, okay, I'll sing this, or I'll write this as a melody or whatever, you know? But it's one of my things that I've done that I'm most proud of Yeah I would imagine too that like the fun moments of it were probably so fun to relive like even like obviously it was like a

Tense moment like the divas live of it all you getting prepared and Aretha being like Mariah they're playing games. They're playing games But that had to be so fun to relive in a way. Like that night, that's actually been mentioned on this show many times. I know there used to be a skit. Yes, there was. Yes. You mean on Saturday night? Yeah. Was it was Ana Gasteyer, Molly Shannon and Sherry, right? They were doing Shania, Mariah and Celine.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, my God, that's so fun. Yeah. That is like truly they don't make a show like that anymore. You know what I mean? Yeah, no they don't. Ugh. They have to. They have to though.

I mean, they- But will it be as big ever? I don't know. Look how long it's been in existence. I know, I know. You know what though? I would say it's like, that's the type of thing now that you think they would reboot

because they're rebooting everything. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so much success comes with like, you know, we're seeing the cast of Friends together again. Harry Potter gets back together and does an eight part whatever on HBO. Like, you know, they did Mean Girls again, which I want to talk to you about.

Like, I just feels like Diva's live. Like, obviously we can't bring everybody back, but like to have y'all come back and like, I think all get together and some of the new generation, I think would be amazing. It could be. It could be. It could be.

I mean, I feel like this has been a really banner year in women and music, and I feel like it's the perfect period on the whole year for you to come back with. With the Divas vibe. With the Divas vibe, but I'm also just saying Merry Christmas and it's 30th anniversary. Yeah. It feels like it's like synergy there.

It's like you are the ultimate. We've been waiting for you. And this has been a year when so many people have made these amazing pop efforts, and then at the end of the year, there will be Mariah's 30th anniversary during Christmas, which doesn't get bigger. It doesn't get more timeless than that.

["Sweet Christmas"] I'm Julian Edelman. It doesn't get more timeless than that. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again, and we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're going to highlight players, peers, guys that we played against, legends from the past. And we're just going to sit here and talk about it. And we'll get into the types of dudes.

What kind of types of dudes are there, girls? We got studs, wizards. We got freaks or dudes, dude. We got dogs. Dog. We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dude's dude?

We're gonna find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, I'm Dr. Maya Shankar, and I'm a scientist who studies human behavior. Many of us have experienced a moment in our lives that changes everything.

A moment that instantly divides our life into a before and an after. On my podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, I talk to people about navigating these very moments. The last couple of years has been the hardest season of our marriage for sure. I'm surprised our marriage survived it. I think we both are.

I think we both were barely holding on. Nothing compares to how hard this is. Their stories are full of candor, awe, and hard-won wisdom. And you'll hear from scientists who teach us how we can be more resilient in the face of change. True behavior change is really identity change. Every action you take is a vote for the type of person you wish to become.

Listen to a slight change of plans on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Tereza. And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back

to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons, and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, just don't call me unless it's

urgent, and tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. Listen to Haunting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey I'm Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. My latest episode is with Jelly Roll. This episode is one of the most honest and raw interviews I've ever had. We go deep into Jelly Roll's life story

from being in and out of prison from the age of 13 to being one of today's biggest artists. We talk about guilt, shame, body image, and huge life transformations. I was a desperate delusional dreamer and the desperate part got me in a lot of trouble. I encourage delusional dreamers. Be a delusional dreamer. Just don't be a desperate delusional dreamer.

I just had such an anger. I was just so mad at life. Everything that wasn't right was everybody's fault but mine. I had such a victim mentality. I took zero accountability for anything in my life. I was the kid that if you asked what happened, I immediately started with everything but me. It took years for me to break that, like years of work.

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Trust me, you won't want to miss this one. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the daily podcast from Hello Sunshine that is guaranteed to light up your day. Every weekday, we bring you conversations

with the culture makers who inspire us. Like our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on her new memoir and the moments that made her. It became a theme in my life, the underdog syndrome of being questioned of the, would they say this to a man? No, they would not. Like, why? That was one of those moments where you're just like, oh, wow.

It was a bit shocking, but it didn't take any steam away or anything like that. If anything, it was more of the, okay, I'll show you. No worries. Listen to the bright side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you get tired of doing all I want for Christmas this year? No. She says no, no way, darling. It's so funny, we were doing, you know, my show in Vegas, and I went out onto the stage during this one part

where we didn't do the song I was supposed to do, which was Circles for Mimi. I love Circles. I mean, I do it every other night, but on this night, I was like, okay, we're not gonna do that, and you guys start playing the beginning of All I Want for Christmas Is You, and I'll run out there. And that's what happened.

It was funny. It was cute. You like Vegas, because you keep going back. It's a nice day. I keep going back because people keep booking. Yeah. They keep booking and then they can come to you.

Well, no, I mean people that work for me. Oh! Wait, now that we've talked about Circles, I have to ask. So we talked about Butterfly and that's like a landmark. That is definitely, you think, one of your best, I think a lot of your fans would agree. But then there was Emancipation. And of course all your albums are incredible, but Emancipation, what did that feel like? To release that and have everyone,

not that you proved everybody wrong, but obviously there was a period there where there was some tumult for whatever reason. And then you come back with Emancipation, which is talk about track by track. Oh my God. I mean, your girl I mentioned before, it's on my intermediate Mariah playlist.

I love that playlist. Yeah, no, honestly. Well, honestly, it's very tasteful, it's on my intermediate Mariah playlist. I love that playlist. Yeah, no, honestly. Well, honestly, it's very tasteful. It's very good. You'll love it. It is tasteful. It is tasteful. Tasteful.

And it's eclectic. It's a diverse, eclectic, tasteful mix. Eclectic, tasteful mix. It's very demure. It's mindful. It's mindful. Yes! Not like other girls.

I felt I was being mindful when putting it together. Absolutely. This was years ago. Of course. Wait, what do you think about all I've ever wanted being on there? Cause that's an old one. Yeah, I don't, no, no, no, I like it.

I like that song. Like when I think about it, it's good. It's not like, I would do a couple of like kind of genre specific-ish ones. Like one with the Mimi songs that are just like your girls, circles, maybe Fly Like a Break, can't name them all now, but you know. And then Butterfly.

To the Floor also, that was on the other day and I was like, god damn, To the Floor. Everybody To the Floor. Yes. It's like that too. Never released though. What do you mean, like as a single? Yeah. It's like never released though. Never, what do you mean? Like as a single? Yeah.

That album was made of singles, but then you went to the Deluxe, right? And then we got, Don't Forget About Us, which was a bop. Yes, I loved it. I wish you knew, no, I wish you knew is on the... No, I wish you knew is on that. That, see, I listened to that song and for you to do that like arena moment

where you're just like talking down with the crowd. Very down with the crowd. I just did it in... You did it? Yeah. That's a moment. In the warehouse. Overseas as well.

Overseas as well. Overseas as well. Overseas as well. I knew that the album was strong. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, when it did what it did in terms of the charts and then having it go platinum and then re-releasing and all that stuff.

I felt so good. Yeah. Of course. Is there a potential for it to be a trilogy where it's like three MC or something? You have E at E equals MC squared, but then you have like- The math isn't gonna fly out now.

The math is flying out. I mean, I feel like there's something neat about it being like a three part thing. A three pronger. A three pronger. A three pronger. Like a trident. A triangle.

Triangle, yes. I just call it a three pronger. A three pronger's great. A jingle hopper. Is there a chance of like another album with a different type of like naming it? So what do you? Well, actually people have drawn the comparison

of cautioned into like that sort of like emancipation sort of like sound or like that like philosophy. And so like, I don't know, do you consider caution to be like the third installment of this? Or do you think like it's coming in the future? Like, is there a vision for this? I think it's coming in the future? Like is there a vision for this? I think it's coming in the future. Oh my God.

Yes. Wow. That would be thrilling. Okay, I just got chills. And I hope you like it. Oh, we're pleased you will. How many times do you watch Mean Girls a week? Oh, I haven't watched it in a while.

Okay, because sometimes even your favorite movie, like I used to watch Clueless like twice a month Uh-huh, and then I have put it away for now. I need to put bring Mean Girls back Yeah, and watch it tonight. Honestly tonight might be the night It might be tonight because in honor of this moment. Yeah, absolutely Tina was here and she's thrilled that you love Mean Girls. Yes. I saw you I saw y'all play that trivia game Yeah, I won. You did, you knew everything.

You beat her at her own film. Beat her at her own film. We love you, Tina. What about a return to acting for you anytime soon? Because you were brilliant and precious. Oh, God. Thank you. Did you watch the new movie?

No, I didn't. With Glenn Close? Yeah, I heard all about it. What do you think about what you've heard? Well, I'm not a person that likes to watch horror. Yeah, it's hard and very scary. Yeah, I don't want that to be in my head. No.

I'll say no. I'll say no to that. When you go to Disney World, because we know you're a fan. Uh-huh, I am. Do you do scary rides? I do Tower of Terror. That's a classic. It's so good.

Truly a classic. And they better never touch it. No. You and Ariana Grande have the same feeling about Tower of Terror. She has written an entire Notes app statement, a petition basically, to Disney that she has saved. And I can reveal this, she wouldn't mind me blowing up this spot. But she is like, if you do anything to Tower of Terror

in Orlando, there will be. Right, because they did it in LA. They made it the Guardians of the Galaxy, which is cute. Which is not bad. No, it's not bad. Yeah, but it's not the Tower of Terror. It's not a classic. It's raining.

Yes. It's pouring. I see so, but you can do that kind of spooky scary. Well, yeah, but it's also because it's a ride. Yeah, sure, sure. You can go up and down on it. But you're in it, you know? Yeah, exactly.

You're in the spook. Well, that's the thing is like, I don't like scary movies at all, but I can do a haunted house because I feel like I can run away. You know what I mean? It's like when you have me on foot, I'm very spry. For I am very spry.

I understand. So I can get away from the terror. But when I'm sitting in a chair, it feels like it's happening to you. Maybe you identify. Right, sure. Yeah, I hear you. Do you have top three favorite Disney rides?

Oh my gosh. Tower of Terror is up there. Tower of Terror in Orlando. Yes, yes, yes. I used to like, and I guess it's not there anymore, Splash Mountain. Splash Mountain, it's now Princess Tiana. Oh, it is?

So now it's called, we call it Princess Tati's Bayou Dip, but it's called Princess Tiana's Bayou Adventure. Okay. And the story goes that she has to collect ingredients and get her band together to create a performance

at the end. And I hear it's cute. Jennifer Lewis is in it. Did they still let the drop and everything? You still drop. You still get your frills and your thrills. Well, I'll give it a shot then. Give it a shot.

Get down there. Okay, so that's two. One more. One more. What else did Disney do? Oh my gosh. Well, it's not Disney though. What is it?

I was going to say Harry Potter. Oh yeah. This is the NBC Universal show too. We love them. I love Disney. Yay, Disney. We love all the corporations. We love you all, all the corporates in the land.

No one should be left out. No one should be left out. Speaking of corporations. All the corporates in the land. Um. Um. Um. Um. No one should be left out. No one should be left out. Speaking of corporations. What? We have a very important question to ask you.

About two, about two lyrics. Oh yes. Okay. Okay. We want to say, if you have to choose one or the other of your two lyrics. These are two of our favorite lyrics that you've ever done. Okay.

It's, Them chickens is ash and I'm lotion or you a mom and pop, I'm a corporation, I'm a press conference, you a conversation. That one. Yeah. That is for all time. It's for all time. And it really does say what you need to say. I mean, you are you, I'm all this. I'm a press conference, you a conversation. You're a conversation. Oh. Oh. Oh. So wait, and by the way, just like,

not to call it bizarre, but that is, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh does that come from? Because it is, no one else would think of... It's truly original. It's so singular. How does that come to you? I don't know. I was just writing the song and that was just an ad-lib after laying it down. Are you in the studio being like, play it back, play it back, play it back, and then giving different vocals again and again and again? Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sometimes I do that. I think that's the most fascinating part of recording. Oh yeah. Like the stacking and the harmonies and like that has to be fun. The stacking and harmonies is so much fun. Yes. Yeah. Cause then you get the sound that you want.

Yes. Yeah. When you write, are you hearing it as a full song or are you hearing the bare bones? Like when you are struck, is it like you can hear, is it like a turn of phrase that inspires you or is it like a melodic thing usually? Or is it always different? It's always different, but if there's just like a melody

that's coming to me and let's say I'm, somebody's playing the piano and I'm like, no, play, don't, don't play. You know what I mean? Yeah. But both of those could be different, like melodically on top of each one. Sure. Because if you're just singing in front of the, on top of the plain one, that's like, you can just make up anything and it's easy.

Something else you have to follow or work around what the keys are doing. Right, it's holding the center too much. But are you, do you have any sort of synesthesia, you think, about like, you hear a sound, but you also sense something else, you see it, or you feel it, or like, does that make sense? It's, yeah, it's a sensory situation. And you feel it and like does that make sense? It's yeah, it's a sensory situation and you feel it

and hear it and if it's really something that's gonna end up being close to your heart then you just go in and do it. And like how often do you write? Like are you writing like all the time? Like let's just say like could you write tonight? Not tonight. I mean, I could, but I'm like, no, I'm staying in a hotel. Yeah, you need your atmosphere.

Well, yes. And it'd be nice if, let's say, I'm working with a bunch of different people right now. And let's say I say, oh, I want to go work with such and such from across town. Yeah, from across town. My girl across town.. Yeah across town. I know a guy across town. I know a guy He's a character he's all right No, but you know, so That's the thing. I would say let me go work with the guy from across town. Yeah. Really good.

Let's say maybe probably keyboard players, what I usually like to work with. And then, you know, we could pick up where we left off. We could write something new, you know, say I had a different idea. Can we work on this and then sing it to them? But the guys across town. Yeah, you got to get there. Yeah nobody are you going there? Is he coming to you probably will meet a studio? Do you have a favorite studio you record in like is there like an iconic place that you go that like you feel like brings out a certain Mariah-ness?

The iconic studio of my house. Yeah! There you go. I mean, we were so happy during the pandemic when you were when you were giving it to us. Those were great. Yeah. That we belong together in particular. That was amazing. Thank you.

And also, wait, shout out to that thing you did recently. There was like you and Brandi together. Oh, that was fun. We did the roof. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I got to, I need to see Brandi.

Hi, Brandi, where are you? She's a legend too. She's amazing. Just one of those like all timers. All timers. I would say Have You Ever. Oh my gosh. And Have You Ever is one of those songs.

Yeah. It's like you hear it and you're like, oh wow. And then you actually like, you attempt to sing it. It's so rangy. It's so wild. But that's another, because I think the beginning of that song is also like a hard work. All stacked.

Yeah, yeah. That was sort of. She loves to do that. Yeah. She's really, she's great at that. Yeah. Because when we were working together, she was like, we were having fun stacking, adding little

parts. Because you guys together, your voices together, it's extremely complimentary. I love her voice. I love it so much. I remember it was actually the night of the Grammys. I was with Ari and she was telling me at the time it was not officially up. She was like, Mariah is going to be on the Yes, Anne remix. I was like, oh my God.

The Yes, Anne remix was everything. That's going to be such a gag. And then we saw Maya go up. And then I just remember it being such a nice moment where everybody in the room was just so happy for you. It really was a nice moment. I gotta say, even though all the history that we have with the Grammy.

I know. Of course. They can still make it right. Well, they can't ever really make it right, but they could do something. Meet in the middle. Like we meet that guy across town. Meet that guy. He can make it right. Well, they can't ever really make it right, but they could do something. Meet in the middle. Like we meet that guy across town. Meet that guy.

You can make it happen, why not? We have our own award show called the Culture Awards. Oh, you do? We're doing a big venue. We might give Butterfly a retroactive award. Why don't we? Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Album of the year.

Album of the year. We're gonna do that. We're an official awards body. We are an official awards body. We are an official awards body. That's amazing. You can win the Emmy, the Grammy, the Oscar, the Tony, and the Colch. It's the culture award.

It's the culture award, so you can win the Colch. The Colch! But you Colch it. You Colch it. So, you know, stay tuned. I love that. I'll write it down. You'll write it down.

By the way, Whenever You Call, also from that album. Wow. One of the great songs. That is a, that, and I mean, I loved it with you and Brian, but just how it was too, like that is, that's like all time Mariah to me as well. Thank you. Whenever you call.

Love. It's a good one. Also growing up, I remember there's an Irish band, Westlife. Yeah. Love Westlife. And then you have your own Against All Odds, you know, track, but then I liked it when I really, I also really enjoyed it when you guys were featured.

They came up to the studio in Capri where I was working. Yeah. And that's when Simon, was Simon Cowell? It was Simon. I think it was Simon. Yeah, he was their manager and they came up there and we filmed it and everything. Yeah. And they, the guys did their parts and I kept mine.

Those are some cute guys. They were adorable. They were adorable. And I love that video because it is like one of those, and we need videos like this where it's in the, it's just shot in the studio. It's yawing and yawing. Everyone just singing. Yeah.

Yup. I mean, and you belt in that song. Yeah. Oh my God. I love that song. Anyway. Well, wait, okay. Before we get, I don't think so,

I have to ask one more question, which I promised myself I would ask. Can you drop that grunge album? Ah! I know, right? Drop it! I'm so mad that I haven't done that yet. But you don't have to be mad

because you're in control. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do it! I am, but who do I drop it with? I need to do it. Should we start a label? Maybe. All right. You can just put it, just put it, you know, it would be kind of chic

if you just put it out on like a garage band or something, like a grungy thing. I could do that. It's a good album. I want to hear it. Oh, you haven't heard any of it. No, I mean, we've heard, we've heard like what you allowed us to hear. Just those little snippets, but like we need to hear that. Okay. And the fact that you will hear that. Incredible. That was just like I was getting life from that. Yeah, you could tell. Seriously. But that's like the prince in you.

Like, that's like the genre thing. It's like, oh, it doesn't matter. Like, I can I'm a musician. I'm an artist. I can do it in any kind of thing. And it was jokes as well. There were lots of. See, I want to artist, I can do it in any kind of thing. And it was jokes as well, there were lots of... See, I want to hear what the jokes were at that time. I mean, they're everlasting.

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They are incredible. Hoda, I support you in whatever you do, but not making me sob like this. Seriously. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. They are so real. We've met them before. They are incredible. Hoda, I support you in whatever you do, but not making me sob like this. Seriously, I was

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It's like it's a major. It's going to be a huge void. I mean, you take for granted Hoda every day on the Today Show. Just a comfort. It was giving the Broad City finale, like the two of them saying goodbye to each other. I was like, oh, these girls. Yeah, we love you, Hoda. We love you, Hoda.

And Jenna. That was a really special moment. OK, this is Bo and Yang's. I don't think so. OK. Are you ready, Bo?, these girls. Yeah, we love Yehuda. We love Yehuda. And Jenna. That was a really special moment. Okay, this is Bow and Yang's, I don't think so honey. Are you ready, Bow? I am ready. This is Bow and Yang's, I don't think so honey, it's time starts now. I don't think so honey, Boxing Day, the day after Christmas,

sometimes celebrated in Canada and the US. This is the origin of Boxing Day. It was a day meant for servants and poor people so that they could get gifts. And now it's just an extra day to shop. So it's giving class, it's giving like class warfare either way you slice it. You know, it's like a holiday for poor people. It's giving separate but equal.

Just lump it in with Christmas and don't extend the holidays after the 25th. We're done. This guest, this legend is off the clock. Don't make her a second longer than she needs to. Just implies that, you know, oh, well, then people have to make a boxing day album. No, no, no. 25th. It's over. It's curtains. The holidays are a time for joy and peace and togetherness and warmth and all these cozy things.

The 26th, it's a weird number. Five seconds. I don't like it. 1226, we're in that dead zone between then and New Year's, and it should stay that way. And that's what I'm in it. He says on 926, New Year's overrated. New Year's overrated. Because it's like, oh.

You know, I had a great time just staying in the city for New Year's, this past New Year's. Oh, yeah. We stayed in the city and we usually do a trip. Uh-huh. The trip on New Year's is always overrated. Definitely because you're surrounded by drunk drivers and all of that. Stay local. Stay local.

Stay local, stay chill. Also it's like when you're a kid, New Year's is fun because it's like you're staying up till midnight. Yeah. And then all of a sudden the novelty of that is gone. It's like I'm up till midnight each and every night. There you go.

I'm not a nerd. No. No, actually, these days I am going to go at 930. I am going to go at 930. OK, Mariah Carey, are you ready? Do you have something on your mind? Huh? There's always something on my mind.

Yeah, yeah. We are excited to say this is Mariah Carey's I Don't Think So Honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Listen, I can't with the overhead lighting. Why do they do it to us? Why?

And I shouldn't even say us because it's not us. It's me. I'm the one that gets the most torture by the hideous lighting in every elevator, doorway, gyms. Not that I go to the gym, but I'm just saying it's hideous lighting. The sun. I mean, the sun is okay if it's at sunset.

And then I will gladly go outside and put the, you know, the little hat on or whatever. And that'll be pretty because it's sunlight caressing your skin. Of course. But it's bad for you, so you gotta be careful of that. But overhead lighting I don't think so honey. No, please stop it every place. I go I shut the lights 15 turn them out

I don't want to see them and no more. Yes. No more honey. There's 10 seconds one more thing I don't have like one more thing overhead lighting. It makes me sick The fact that we got Ryan Curry's I don't Think Johnny on overhead lighting is an all-timer. How did we do today? We did pretty good. You guys did good because these are like, you know, here and here, I noticed that. You know that I said to them really, I was like,

let's get this lighting together. We cannot miss on this, you guys. I think people are catching up to you. With the lighting, they're trying, yeah. Well, you know, now it's like, we're gonna clue everybody in on this like a classic gay guys apartment now is no overhead lighting it's just mood lighting in the corners that's it that way it's orbs on the floor yeah there's like soft orbs around what's

what's the home what's the home rig like what's the home rig? Like what's the home situation? I feel that the best way is recessed lighting. Yeah. And then you're walking and it's like splash of light. Yes. Splash of light. You know, it's not anything more than that that's needed. Sumptuous. Sumptuous.

It is sumptuous. I think that's a word if you can try to include that. Try that for that next time? Yeah. I'm not saying, no, and a song and, you know, throw assumptions in a song. I feel like I did that. I'm sure you have.

I don't know if I did. Wait, there was a word. It sounds like a Mariah word. There was a word just now in your island, thanks, honey, that, caress, caress. Caress in me and go back in time. Yes! Okay, wait, them babies,

are you excited to take them to see Wicked? I'm excited to hang out with them whenever I can. Yeah, of course. They're just always doing something else. Are they 13? Yes. You had them on tour last year though. Yeah, I did. They were 12. They're teens now.

I know. I can't think about it. I'm going to have to rant again. It's such a huge difference. They're teens now. I know. I can't think about it. I'm going to have to rant again. Them babies? Are them teens? They're them teens now. This is so sublime. Thank you so much for joining us.

I mean, I just can't say enough. Like I said, I think you're so much of the reason why I am who I am. And thank you so much for everything that you've given of your talent, of your gift, of your songwriting. I mean, we could sit here and talk to you forever. You really are just the best. And you will always be that for me. And I'm so happy to meet you.

Thank you so much. The way you've shaped the culture and the industry and the way you've shown people how to navigate it is truly invaluable. And we all think... There's a hero. We end every episode with a song. Oh. And actually, this one, I really want more respect on this name. OK, OK. Dream more respect on this name.

Okay, okay. Dream lover come rescue me. Take me up, take me down, take me anywhere you want to be. And for the rest of that, you can listen to the fantasy record. Bye! No, that's music box. That's music box!

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