Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - “I’ve… Been Through” (w/ Ariana Grande)

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Must be the season of the Good Witch because Ariana Grande is here on Las Cultch to talk WICKED and more!!! The perfect star gets togetha with Matt & Bowen to discuss finding her Glinda, how the musical theater “queens of her life” impacted her development, and what the next ten years of her career might look like. Also, reflections on eternal sunshine and positions, earning “horror freak” status, and a plea to Walt Disney World in the name of historical preservation. The excellent film Wicked is out November 22nd! 🎶 Dancing through liiiiiiiiiife! 🎶 Hang in there, RPKFs!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And now, Los Colch. Drums. Look, Matt. There. And now, Las Culturas. Drums. Look, man. Where? Oh, I see, wow. Why? Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture?

Yes. Oh my goodness. Oh, wow. Las Culturas. Ding dong, Las Culturas calling. Tactile as fuck. Tactile AF. AF? I've been smiling and beaming all day.

I woke up with a giggle. Oh my god. I sort of leapt out of bed, and then I looked at myself in the mirror, and then I immediately got sad because I think I'm actually developing a stye. Blepharitis. No, if you develop a stye,

you just nip it in the bud and you put rice in a sock, you put it in the microwave for 30 seconds, and then you just warm calm it. Is that the cure? Mm-hmm. All right, good. I was all nervous today, I literally was so excited for this to come to facial yesterday. I got a facial for the episode.

Oh, fun. I went to the Equinox Spa and Hotel. I love. Which is in Hudson Yards, really the best area of New York. Remember when I was looking for an apartment in Hudson Yards? I don't think I gave you any guff for it. I was like, if that's where Matt is happiest, Matt belongs at the theme park of New York City. And this is what I wanted to tell you.

Yeah, go, go, go. Are you, what do you, how do you feel about Rockefeller Center making a real play at being the only real technical zoned theme park in New York? Because that's what they're trying to do. As the prince of Rockefeller Center, I actually have to say, we actually are the royal court of Rockefeller Center, if you think about it.

We're the jesters in the court. So as a representative of the zone, I couldn't be prouder of my sisters who are making that place a theme park. They really are. They really are happy about it. It's ticketed rides, you got to strap on a seatbelt. You know, I've gone to the top of the Rockefeller Center and like you go on the beam and it spins around.

It's very thrilling You would love it. I think Not yet, though. Is that my cue? No. Yeah, so never mind. Don't worry So if you sort of just like heard the voice what no, come on How would you like me? This way? No, Bohn, you're actually leaning to your right, which I know you feel natural. Can we go a touch to our left hand? Yeah, both of us? Sorry to break your flow, guys.

I'm so sorry, just a tiny... I'm getting a lot. What do you want me to do? I just need you to go to your... Yes, of course. Thank you so much. Perfect. No, it's okay.

I'm really glad it's that and not what I thought it was. What was it? I thought she was coming in like, guys, there's a fire. We gotta get out of here. Come on. Use all this. Stairs only.

Wait, speaking of... That's where my mind goes. She came in and I was like, something's happening. She had the energy of like, it's an emergency. Well yeah, that was emergency energy. The way the hair moved was urgent. Gorgeous.

Gorgeous and scary. Excited and scared. Here we go. No, we're back. We're using all of that. We're using all of it. All of it is being used and I won't. Even the part where I got a little snippy, I was like, I'm getting a lot. What do you want?

No, because honestly, that's authenticity, Bo. And that's why people love Lost Coast Dereistas with Matt Rogers and Bo and Yang, because this is a real ass show. I agree. And that was a real moment. And here's what I really want to say. You've said the theme park thing. Do you know how I spent my morning? I've been thinking about the Wicked theme park ride all day. I've seen the film and I want to unveil what I think the experience of the theme park ride at Epic Universe put it in

between. There's a spot for it. You put it in between Super Nintendo World and the Dark Universe. I feel like that's a perfect meeting for Wicked. It's Emerald City slash Oz, whatever they want to do. And I can't wait to pitch to our guests my idea for the theme park ride. The story of it. Because I know we're with one of the true girlies. We're with one of the true Floridian girlies. Let's bring her in.

Talk about your pal. She literally saved my life. I can't even look at you. I fucking love you. She's the legend. She's playing Glinda in Wicked, part one. Maybe part two. She's playing Glinda.

You'll have to wait to see what happens at the end of act one. Does the character die? Who knows? Is there a death? Imagine the twist of like they killed Glinda. They killed Glinda. Like, oh my god, they really took a swing.

Fuck. That sucks. We loved her performance in the first. No. If the munchkins in Munchkinland. It's like a dark wicked, like the Dark Knight. Our guest is a singular talent and icon. I mean, I am a fan. I've always been a fan.

This is surreal. I can't believe she's here. I mean, Eternal Sunshine, one of the albums of the year This is surreal. I can't believe she's here. I mean, Eternal Sunshine, one of the albums of the year, like to say nothing of everything else she's ever put out. I mean, I can't believe this is happening. It's the film of the year, Wicked. And this guest you're about to welcome into your ears

is the one, the fucking only Ariana Grande. Thank you. That's my cue. Yeah. I've been tempted to jump in every third sentence. That's sort of the vibe. I'm so sorry, I know, but it's just been so tempting. We really work our guests up and then they chime in and then they're ready to go.

Okay, so pitch hi. Thank you for having me. This is a blessing and a half and three quarters. Is this weird? Is this already becoming weird? No, no. We start over. No, this is perfection.

Do you want to know the Wicked theme park ride? Tell me now. Because you want this to happen. Of course I do and I have ideas as well. Okay, so let's collab I think you go to like it's not shiz. It's the Emerald City and the vibe is like Galinda live today is gonna address everyone the Ozians. It's like it's like we're all going Thinking about what when we're gonna have to shoot that oh Yeah, I'm always I think about that sometimes, you know, yeah

Yeah, shooting like the theme park b-roll. Yeah shooting like, you know Hermione being like Don't forget to wear your seat belts. Yeah Sometimes I feel like are they still doing that? Are they gonna go out like D Radcliffe? I think they're on on contract and they're locked Into something can you do your Hermione impression? Do you know what I'm talking about? There is what is that? No, you can't. I love the vocal phrase so much. It's so good. The vocal what?

The vocal fray. The fray. Oh my God. I love it so much. Yeah. Okay, so Glinda's, today Glinda is addressing. Today, Glinda live, like it's you and then like we as the guests coming in are gonna like see the speech and then something is like happening.

So this takes place between Wicked one and two. Okay. So in that area. Oh that's fun. That's fun. So it's like we believe that Elphaba is like a foot. Yeah. Like there's signs that are like get the witch You know what I mean? Like that. Right. And then like we get in the ride And I don't know the like rest of this but like that's the setup and like you are like get ready to speak and then there's like weather Oh weather more ball seats start to move. We think it's alpha but but we we know it's more Michelle. You're going. Yeah Yes If you want that's the best shot in the whole thing What she turns what she turns and the monkeys go? Oh my god

the whole thing. When she turns and the monkeys go, oh my god. Fuck. This. It's the best shot of any movie I've ever seen in my life. She's so hot. So hot. She's so beautiful and regal and powerful. When she goes, Wicked witch. Yes. What a choice to get quiet. Wicked witch. Oh, please. I love Michelle. She's brilliant. I've seen it. I DM'd you. I'm blown away by the movie and it's just like you guys To just to leave the fake world of the theme park right now Like we'll figure it out like TKTK theme park ride. The very real film is so brilliant and

Like you know it you know it New You know it. You know it. You. Wicked is a film about Fanny. It is. He's a gay boy. He's a gay boy. Who wants to make it big in the world, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knows that the media landscape of Oz is not ready for a fop like him. Very homophobic city.

A homophobic country. I have the best video in the world of you rehearsing it. It's been in my drafts for two years Post of him His little pink like cap over your hair because we weren't ready to film yet with your little clips in and He's like half in wardrobe half in like some cute like bow and thing. Yeah, and he's just like What did he say wait what am I more mostly? Elphaba mustn't get, all right, fine, I'm gay. Shiz.

But I don't know what to be the most interesting thing about me. I watched it 300 times. Honestly. How do we feel about the original person who read for Fanny at the table read for Wicked was Sutton Foster. What? Have I desecrated Sutton's name?

Wait, no. What are you talking about? So like in the original sort of like table read for Wicked before any of the shows, any of the, whatever, any of the tryouts. That was Sutton Foster? They had it, Dina and they had Kristen, but then they had Sutton Foster.

As Fanny? As Fanny. Years ago? That is the most important thing I've ever heard. Yeah. It's crazy. That is so spectacular. Like circa 2001 or whatever.

How did I not know this? No, I didn't know this either until people were sending to me. Oh my God. Isn't that crazy? I mean, she's gonna be so floored and proud. And she's going, absolutely. Can we talk about-

So you could run, and I've been saying that for years. His brilliance in this film? I mean, he lights up the screen like he lights up my life. Every time you come on the screen, I'm like, in a word, period. Just so incredibly brilliant. And I also just want like a string out of everything you said, because-

Yeah, string out. I just, I really do. I want a string out. Let's bring string outs back. I love string out. Can we just string out today? I want a string out. Yeah.

Of everything he said on that set. Yeah, yeah. I got to see last night, because Cynthia and I went to go do like, watch along and make commentary things. But while we were there, they showed us deleted scenes. And I got to see I've Been Through. Oh my god, wait, they kept telling me about it. I've Been Through.

Talk about that so everyone knows. So they did, spoiler alert, they did cut the scene where Glinda meets Fanny and Shenshen again. But it's very cute and you will get to see it. Oh, really? You will get to see it. It's coming out. Because I want to see it. That was my one notice. I was like, well, who are they?

Who are these two? We kind of just made it all up. We kind of just like, John was like, all right, you guys meet here. And maybe you do a little, you know, and we were like, perfect. We'll do it. And so we did the weird dance thing, whatever it was. We did the weird dance thing and then I... I was like, oh, how are you guys really?

And yeah, so Ari is going to go, so how are you, it's been so long, how are you guys really? And then I, for some reason, made the choice to go, I've been through. And we said I've been through for two years after that. I've been through. And then the other phrase was, I have had scandal.

I have had scandal. I have had scandal. Belongs in the movie. I have had scandal. I have had scandal. I have had scandal. I have had scandal. Belongs in the movie. I have had scandal. I have had scandal. Title of app. I have had scandal. I have had scandal.

I've been through. I've, da da da. I've been through is title of app. Yeah, I've da da da been through. Which we all have. I love I've been through. I've been through is. Not it.

No. I've been through. I've been through. And we just all collapsed. It was so ticklish. It was so funny. Thanks, babe. There was the coolest waitress I used to waitress with would always say, oh my God, that person is so.

And never ever said the word after. That's the safe thing to do. That's very safe. That's really safe. You always knew. You know? How was Ari? She was so.

So. And then you get to, you know. Fill in the blank. Let the other person project. It's a lot about how you say so. Exactly. Absolutely. Yeah, it's an invitation for more projection.

It protects and projects. Yes, it protects and projects. Wait, but you saying I've been through is so funny to me because that's like minute three of the film. It's too much. It's so funny. I understand why it's cut because it makes no tonal sense

with the rest of the film. It lives on its own, but in the most brilliant way. The same way that I Don't See Color lives on its own. Do we think that that comes to real? No, it's so funny and it's so brilliant. And it also is like, yeah, we're commenting on what we're commenting on in this film it's actually the most brilliant comedic way of saying yeah that's what this is about yeah I can't believe I find it

miraculous that that stayed in the final it's the best that I was hoping and praying I had literally my fingers and toes crossed it was sitting in the audience watching for the very first time. And I literally, John Chiu was sitting right next to me. I literally was like, thank you. Thank you. I was like, thank God. Thank goodness. Honestly. Bowen Yang ad libs in the final cut. You guys, there's something terrible about an ad lib that you do on set because you're with like a friend and you're disarmed and you're being stupid. And then you see it and then you go, well, fuck, a gajillion people are gonna

watch me do this stupid. And have a lot of feelings about it as well. And be, you know. Totally, totally. That's like, once you leave the set and you're like, the fuck did we just, what just happened? Oh my God.

That's what we filmed. Right, hope anything's okay. Yeah, it's like, wow. Right. Hope anything's okay. Yeah. Wow. I feel like I blacked out for two years and now I'm like, oh, good morning. Now the people are coming. Come on in.

The fans of Wicked are gonna sit there and be like, we have a lot of feelings about what this has always been to us and now this is the film. Which is such a beautiful blessing and responsibility to have as people who also love it and have lived for this for 20 years. They have done the research, like read the L. Frank Baum books and done their homework and have lived it and loved it. And, you know, it's such a beautiful celebration. And we welcome the feelings.

We welcome the feelings. I'm a fan girl with those feelings about the things I love. Totally. To quote the show, I ask you a question. What is this feeling now for you? So sudden and new. So sudden and new. It was like two years of your life where you were like monastic.

You were a monk being like, I'm going to be so disciplined about this. And now I feel like it happened yesterday. And now all of a sudden we're like, oh, fuck, we have to like, in a way, like relive what happened and then also like package it into a way that like feels good for a sound bite. Right. And promote and sell the thing. And it's just like, it takes this transition from being this intimate, really real feeling thing to us talking about it like it's a product.

And it's a very strange shift, but I'm really trying to hold on to the humanness of it all and kind of just like, let that be what we talk about because it's so exciting to be able to talk about it. So it doesn't feel like a press tour the way it has maybe when I was doing it for music or something like that because it feels, I don't know, it feels different for a million reasons. I don't know. Because you know what we kept saying when we shot it was like, it feels different for a million reasons. Of course. I don't know.

Because you know what we kept saying when we shot it was like, it just feels like we're shooting a little indie. A little student film. A student film. Right. Like all of a sudden there's like a mark. Yes. There's like, I'm stepping on tape to do Wicked.

Like it's never been done like this before and yet we're committing it. Yeah, that wall broke when there was like a man on a hang glider with a camera in the sky Like Daily Mail on a parachute we were like, oh shit. Yeah. So so oh sure sure sure sure sure sure Oh, it's that yeah, so someone flew in to try to get like footage You got people got a lot. We saw it on Twitter. I was like wait what it was like It was like literally hundreds of yards away. Yes I think you could hear you doing your coloratura. That was one of the rehearsals.

And they were like all the way across the water, there was a little river pond thing. And- There was a body of water. I'm big on water. I'm a water sign. One thing about Ariana, she knows her body's of water. This cancer, she knows water.

Yes. And she'll talk about it. Yeah, I will. Across the way, there was- We're gonna call it a brook. Across the brook. Over the brook. Yes, there was a ladder.

A gay guy. There was a gay guy in a parachute. There was a camera. There was a gay guy with a camera. The worst kind. And I said- A flying gay guy with a camera. Bowen, what are you doing over there?

Get down from there, we need you for the shot, damn it. I'm kidding. I was doing my band-aid coming out of the closet, but no, it was a guy sending a drone. It was a guy sending a drone up. Yeah, but my favorite thing about it was like, I was like, I'm easy peasy. I was like, oh, it's, you know, whatever.

If Mark doesn't have a problem with it or John is okay, like I'm gonna just like do my job. I'll ignore it and I'll block it out, blinders on, whatever. But like, you know, a lot of people were concerned because it's a big deal, you know, for that to come out before it's supposed to come out. But no one really cared that much. Yeah, they were like this.

They were like this. Oh, are you serious? And I was like, yeah, no, totally. I mean, I think I heard that there's people and I think I just saw some stuff. And they were like, yeah, no, totally. I mean, I think I heard that there's people and I think I just saw some stuff. And they were like, oh, man. Well, from the top everyone. And I was like, oh, that's amazing.

That's really cool. I was like, if you don't care, I don't care. Exactly. That's nice. Yeah, freeing. And we love and we bless the people whose concern and job it is to make sure things are secure and safe and not be. Absolutely. But sometimes it is like other sure things are secure and safe and not be.

Absolutely. But sometimes it is other people kind of working you up. Right. And to thinking that it's a huge problem when you're like, when deep down in your person, you're like, oh, it's fine. I'll just keep doing what I do. Yeah. And we were all kept very safe. And there was never any sort of danger in that way. And there's only so much you can do when we're shooting on these massive outdoor sets.

So instead of having everyone stress about it and become anxious, like you said, and if there wasn't anything that we could do, we just started to have fun with it. Like when the drones would come at me and the munchkins would be like, hello! And then I started taking my wand and being like, okay, that's enough, go away.

Trying to make it fun, but it's crazy. When did this happen? When did you guys know it was friendship and not just like a colleague I enjoy? I mean, I was so, so over the moon excited that you were going to be able to do it. I called Lorne. You did. Did you know about this? I knew about this.

Is that okay that I talk about this? It's almost like you're comfortable. Well, because I knew that it was a huge, massive ask and also probably an impossible one. And I didn't have anything, any sort of resolution to pitch him, but I just called him and I was like, hi, Lauren, oh my goodness, how are you? And he was like, hello, Wario, what's going on?

I was like, is there any way? Is there any way? And that was the most nervous I've ever been. But, you know, yeah, we made it work. He made it work. You made it work. You exhausted yourself and worked yourself to the bone. Yes, it's the only time that I've ever pulled a pouty face in front of him to be like,

I really want to do this. And then he was like, OK, we'll do that again. Because it was cute as fuck. Show them what you did. I was like, I really want to do this. And then I did. I basically did that. It was really tough. What you put yourself through. Yes. You were amazing. Zero regrets. And I think the answer to the question is the minute you got there,

I was just kind of like, oh my goodness, I hope that he is having the same experience that I'm having. Because I really want to be friends. You know what I mean? It was a star shower when I saw you, when we met for the first time. The stars exploded.

The stars exploded. It was at Leavesden. We were doing rehearsals. And then I remember I was in my little room, I was reading a book and then you came in and... Barged in. No, it was so perfect. I was too excited.

No, you weren't. I love it. Cynthia came in and gave me Greathers and she was so fucking sweet. I'll never forget it. And then you came in and then like it was, like I just like, it was a meteor shower around you. And I was like, oh, this is so fun.

I think the moment that it was like friends, I think was when we watched Mommy Dearest together and then VHS. Yes, yes, yes. Ari loves, you guys don't totally lie on this, but Ari is a huge horror freak. Oh, you're a horror freak. I am.

And, the way you said that Ari is a huge horror freak. Did that sound bad? No. Oh great. I've heard a lot or a lot. But yeah, no, that's lovely. Thank you. You're a horror freak.

Kindness. A massive kindness. Thank you. What's your horror pick? What's the best horror film? I don't know. I really like... What?

Did you see the stuff? No. What are you giving? You loved VHS and I'm just thinking because I watched Smile last night alone in my apartment. Smile two or one? Smile one, because I wanna see Smile two and Smile one freaked me out. I would go tonight, let's go as soon as we can.

Let's go. I wish I could go. And how did you feel? It was disturbing. It's a good one. You like it? It's a really good one, I do. Socy Bacon, star.

Love Socy. She is a talent. She's a talent, but God, that ending is crazy. It's a lot, yeah. It's a lot. But I love that. I love that. I love heart, wait, apparently. God, that ending is crazy. It's a lot, yeah. It's a lot. But I love that. I love that. I love heart, wait, apparently.

Well, cause apparently Smile Two also ends in a way that you're like. Yeah, let's go. Let's go. You don't like though. I get really anxious, upset, scared, freaked out, frustrated, and more. I gotcha.

You got me, you're gonna protect me out there? You know what I do do though? What? Haunted house. And we just did the sickest. Oh my God. Talk about this. We were truly in the woods in Pennsylvania. Where in Pennsylvania? The Poconos.

Oh my gosh, okay. Yeah, so Sudi, Bowen and I went just to like get a little fall moment. Right. It was like an unassuming haunted house. Like it's like, oh, this is like in the middle of nowhere. It's not gonna be like a budget. No, but those are the ones. Those are the ones. Those are not going to be like a budget. It's not going to be like-

No, but those are the ones. Those are the ones. Those are the ones. Because there wasn't that many people there, which meant the groups when you're traveling through were small. It's not like Halloween Horror Nights where it's like- You've just signed a waiver.

30,000 people are there. And you've just signed like waivers and stuff. See, we didn't sign no waivers. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. When there's no waivers, all bets are off. It's going to be scary. Yeah, but usually-

It's going to be scary. Usually Usually though, if they touch you, you're supposed to have signed a waiver. We were getting really harangued by these people. And I loved every second of it. But that's what I'm saying. There's no waiver in place. So they really can. So they get you.

The wild Poconos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the wild Poconos at the craziest haunted house you can think of. I wanna go now. It was what, 40 minutes long? How long was it? I swear to God.

No breaks? No breaks. No breaks. Relentless horror. How do you feel about that? How much space did that take up? It was a big footprint. Was it like a two mile extravaganza?

Big, big footprint, like a compound basically. It was, we stayed at this resort and like the guys like as they bring you in, they're like, okay guys, so it they bring you in, they're like, okay guys, so it's a bunch of actors, but like they're just doing their job. So you know- Yeah, these people work in the kitchen at the resort.

They said like, these people work in the kitchen. So it's like low, so we were like, okay, so it's low stakes. Not at all. It was insane. Well, they're letting it out. They're letting it out. They're letting it out.

Oh, the screams were not safe. Right. Let's just say they came from here. Yeah. Like it was like a woman flying out of a corner. Like, what did- You can do it. It was you, I'll do it.

It was like this. It was like, get out! Help me out! I love screaming. And we were just- I love screaming. That's divine. The only way you can respond to that

is with a scream at that level yourself. So we were just like, ah! Right. I love when you scream. Yes, he's the best screamer. How do you feel as a professional celebrated vocalist? Oh wow, sure. What is your-

Sure, thank you. Is this your first time hearing of this? That is, I needed that. Yeah. What is your opinion on screaming? Cause some people, it's devices. How do you scream? Oh! Oh, like that! Like that! Wait, for that to have happened in the second, wait. What is your opinion on screaming because some people it's devices how do you scream?

Like that like that wait for that to have happened in the second wait by the way We saw how she screams and it's like this It was giving the soft palate yes Don't get her she cleans up her own ice pop. Ariana Grande, everybody. Do we get that? Kiss my ass. Kiss my ass. Oh, I loved getting that look from her. Oh my gosh. She whizzed. Wait, what is your opinion on screaming? Yeah, how do you scream?

Um, I don't, you know, listen. You're at Halloween Horror Nights and something, she kind of did it. No, that's not my, that's not my, that's not that. I think it's like. You don't have to do it. I'm sorry. I'd like to, I'd like to, I'd like to, please. Thank you. No, I'd like to. No, I don't know. I think it depends on the context, but screaming is weird. Cause sometimes I guess I subconsciously scream in a healthy way. Because sometimes after I scream, like there were several scenes in Wicked where there's lots of screaming.

And I was like, oh my, I love screaming. But afterwards I felt like warmed up or something. So maybe I subconsciously scream healthily. But I actually don't know that I intentionally, yeah. I mean, like there are ways to do it, but I don't think it's something I choose when in fear. Totally. Does this inspire or motivate you to do a horror movie?

Like, you're kind of- You know, it depends on the context. It depends on the script. I'm not like a gore for the sake of gore person. And I also like, I don't know, I would want to do a great job. I want to do an incredible job. So it really depends.

If I could lend myself to the character in a way that I felt would be really purposeful and great, then sure. But you know, I like horror that is psychological. Yeah. Thoughtful. Not just blood for fun. Yeah. Totally. What would you categorize VHS? Blood for fun. Blood for fun. What would you categorize VHS as?

Oof. I mean, no, we don't have to talk about it. It's actually really rough. Why did I make you watch that? Because you were being a good friend and I was going through a hard time. But that's like not the thing to watch when you're going through a hard time. Absolutely it is. It's so anxious making. It was cathartic.

It was cathartic. Did you feel better afterwards? You sure weren't thinking about whatever you came there thinking about. Period and also we did actually. It's really scary. We didn't enjoy, not that we didn't enjoy the whole thing, but we did not stick with it

because at a certain point Ari goes. I've never seen the whole thing. Yeah. I've never seen the whole thing. Do you turn movies off before they're over a lot? No, just VHS. Yeah. No, cause it's little vignettes.

It's vignettes. It's vignettes and I love the first vignette cause this like fierce goblin woman like rips seven dicks off and flies. Fierce goblin woman. She's just like, it's really cool. And her face splits and she's gorgeous and cool and like kills.

Are you gonna see the substance? I am gonna see the substance. I'm dying to see it. Yeah, I heard it's incredible. Everyone I'm talking to that's seeing it is like, I can't stop thinking about it. I need to see it. I'm really excited to see it. October 31st on MUBI. But that's not my favorite horror film. I feel like that's gonna like lead people to think I really, I don't know. Would you like to do it?

Would I like to address this problem? What's your favorite horror film? I'm not a huge, I don't know it too well. I'm not very literate, but I think I'm gonna say, oh God, recently I really did love. Oh, are you gonna say? What? The one.

No, no, not The Hills Have Eyes. No, girl, please. No way. Not that. The one that was, it was like the demon came out of her head. The one that was on HBO Max. Oh, oh, oh. You know what I'm saying?

Malignant? Yes, malignant. Malignant, malignant, malignant. Exactly, because didn't you love malignant? I didn't see malignant. Joel loved malignant. Joel loved malignant. What was the other one?

That's such a joyfully chaotic scene. Totally. It's crazy. See, I appreciate complete insanity. Back when I was watching them, if it would get completely absurd. Like I loved Saw, the first Saw. Right, because it's so brilliant.

It's brilliant. It's so brilliant. The way it comes together in the montage, I was like, oh my God, I didn't know I was watching art the whole time. I can endure that much gore if it's that smart. If it pays off. If it's that smart. Yes. I love it so much. Yeah. Just to switch gears, I really have to apologize to you in person. For what?

I opened my mouth up too much when we kissed on SNL. You absolutely did. I was shaking with laughter. No, no, no, no, no, not in a bad way. Not in a bad way. And just like a disarming way. You know what? The rehearsal.

The chemistry was so good. Oh my gosh, thank you. I mean, it comes from a real place. I know it does. But I kissed you too much. You know what, like the rehearsal. The chemistry was so good. Oh my gosh, thank you. I mean, it comes from a real place. I know it does. But I kissed you too much. You know what? That's okay. No, it's not.

We were really dropped in. If you were thinking about that. We were dropped in. We were dropped in and it felt like what these people needed at that time. It felt like what these characters. It was motivated. Required.

Yeah. A little open mouth. I'm all for it. I just... Should we talk about like how we arrived? Because there was not a kiss originally. Right, no, there wasn't a kiss originally. Whose idea was it?

Well, here's the thing. Go ahead. No, you go, you go, you go. No, I mean, I, when we rehearsed it, a little, I don't know, thought. Something went on. Yeah, in my head, and I was like, I didn't say anything because I was like,

oh, everyone's gonna think I'm absolutely insane and too comfortable. But I was like, how funny would it be if we kissed at the end? And then Bowen texts me a few hours later and was like, it's totally fine. This is way too crazy. But we were talking and thought it would be so funny if we kissed at the end. And I was like, wow. What if we kissed? Thanks. Thought about the end. And I was like, wow.

What if we kissed? Thanks. Thought about that. Yeah, I was like, wow, I was thinking that. I'm so sorry. And you weren't immediately on board. Yes. So do you rehearse it?

Do you do it in dress? Or like, what's, cause I always feel like with rehearsing a kissing thing, it's, I've only had to do it a few times, but it's like the rehearsal of it is like, are we doing it? It's so uncomfortable. Are we doing a version of it? Like, what is it? Yeah, it's like, shit. Are we, are we doing it? Are we doing a version of it? Like what is it?

Yeah, it's like, shit, are we, are we doing it for real this time? Are we kissing this time? I know. So what was it? We kissed in the dress rehearsal. We kissed in the dress rehearsal, but in the, and I will admit.

We had a very grown up conversation about it. We said, we doing it or not? We did have a grown up conversation just like that. She came out a little bit there as well. We dropped it. Sorry, just talking about her. She came out a little bit there as well. We dropped it. Sorry, just talking about her. She comes out sometimes. Yeah, I was, Jenelle, are we doing it or not?

Well, I also have to, Paul, I think in the grand scheme of things, I was maybe a little overeager. Because in the run through on Saturday, so on Saturdays in the afternoons, I go, I go. Looking good? I was like, so should we do it?

I didn't say, do you want to do it for run through? I said, I phrased it in like a leading way of like, should we? And you were like, um. Shall we kiss? No, I feel like, well, cause there was, we talked about maybe waiting till the real thing, just to like, wing it and see how it was.

And it was like, let it be on the live, you know, whatever it was like. But then we were like, no, let's be adults, let's rehearse it, just so we know how it feels and not have that surprise on live television. So we just did it. And so your take on it, and just talk to me. Yeah, absolutely, sure.

So his mouth was a little too open No, no, that's that came from him not for me, but you you acknowledge you said you absolutely did open It was absolutely too open For the characters, I think was perfectly open I would agree I I was watching it and I'm thinking I did start shaking giggling Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, you got it. Yeah, absolutely. I broke. I was like... You're like, what is this gig I do?

It seemed incredibly purposeful and motivated. Good. And it felt incredible. As long as that's how it felt for the audience, it's all good here. Have you ever told Ari... I'm no beef here. I'm no beef here. It's official.

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It really was. Thank you. I had the time of my life. I would have done it right after we finished at 1 a.m. Again Yeah, I really love being there. I love every single person there Like I just had the loveliest best time with everyone and I love laughing. I love comedy. I love bits You're so good at it Thank you and also you can tell it leads from a joy that you have to do it and like a motivation

to like work hard and get it right. And I also can't believe you've only hosted twice. You give the energy of someone that's been there again and again. That's so nice. It throws back to like how good JT was of the show back in the day of like, you know, coming in. Like, what do you think it is that prepares you to do something like Saturday Night Live so well?

Oh my gosh. I don't know. I mean, that's really nice. I think I find like a comfortability in getting to know everyone. I love getting to know people when I come to a place. I want to like befriend everyone and be open. And when you're meeting all the writers and collaborating with everyone, everyone is super just kind of open and talk about where you can go, like trying things and whatever. It just is a really safe and fun experience. I don't know.

It's like constant, but it's the best and it's so much fun. And I think I just love comedy. So maybe that is like why I was so excited to go and I felt very excited. I think when it comes to doing big exciting things, sometimes, you know, it can become like a scary daunting thing. But if you hold on to excitement and gratitude and let that like fuel the whole experience, it can really change the tone of everything. It's something I like learned in my late 20s. But no, I don't know.

It's just, it felt really fun. It brought joy. Oh, yes. It brought comfort. Texting with Bowen constantly. Having a literal best friend there. And in the weeks leading up, I felt like I was bothering you,

because I was, it's my turn to apologize now. No, I felt like I was, I felt like I was blowing you up, because I couldn't stop texting insane ideas for bits, and silly, silly things, and I was just so excited to get there Yeah, maybe that's why I think when you're excited about work Yeah, and your work. Yeah, it shows. I don't know. Yeah, it's like it's like it's like and with wicked too

and I was just gonna like Pause it that maybe like when you get the audition for Galinda, right? That has to be a thing where you're like, holy fuck like it it's something I've thought about for a very long time. Yeah. Like it's one of those roles that's gonna be, someone's gonna get it and it's gonna feel like, yes, incredible that person, but like a little part of you is like, oh god. And so when you get that audition, I wonder is it all just like joy and like how do you approach the comedy of something that's so iconically done and like you respect, but you bring yourself to it because you do do that.

Yes. Well, thank you. I think it's kind of like, it was one of the most important parts to me was finding that balance between like honoring the iconic Glinda that we have had on our, on the soundtrack for 21 years and the role that was like written really by Winnie Holtzman and

Kristin Chenoweth like you know honoring what made it so iconic which is like the original material and you know people while also kind of like bringing myself to it and it's interesting because knowing something and being a fan of something for such a long time is very different than having to become it and sort of take it on. So, I don't know. I mean, a lot of just like trying and playing and reading the script a hundred times fully through even before the audition. Like not the movie one, the Broadway one. So that sort of, you know, choices of my own could come through and finding new truths to little beats and moments that play differently on stage because this isn't the stage show.

And finding that balance was, of course, the most important thing because I know as a fan of it how important it is to walk that line. And that's really all you can do is the homework and also trial and play. I have my amazing acting coach, Nancy Banks. You know, we did a lot of playing and grounding my vocal placement and even finding like, okay, like what inflection,

how far do we want to go with it? And older vocal versus younger Glinda vocals. And what's the tonal shift when she's young versus when she's old? And, you know, incredible work in that regard, too. Like, I have to say, my one of my favorite things about the movie just holistically. And I think it's so funny that you guys didn't chemistry test because the chemistry between you two is just nuts. And one of my favorite things about a vocal choice in that movie is that

Cynthia is like singing her whole part very clean until you get that note and it has so much gut in it. Well it is a war cry. Yes and that that like ends it and you know that everything has changed in the way that note is sung. And that intentionality. Is just brilliant. It's so beautiful. I was in the room. I got to be there.

When she actually was doing it, like you mean the studio? Yeah, to hear her sing Defying Gravity. I mean, I was there when she did the rehearsal tracks. But I was also on set when she was flying above me singing. Divine gravity. You know? You had to witness, you had to be there to witness it. And also just like, this is not a spoiler,

but it does cut to Galinda pretty frequently during that moment. Yeah. And I think the way, cause you have an impossible thing to do in that moment, which is just to like internally project that outward as everything in your world and your circumstance is changing. Like even hearing you just talk about the prep and the consideration that went into this, like you have the most expansive

knowledge of this character and like, thank God it's you because you're like rising to every occasion with it. Like you rose to the audition, obviously in this such a storied way. Like I love the lore behind it now that people know about. And I just know, yeah, it's fucking amazing. You know, the movie is like about, you forget sometimes, like especially seeing it now in the way that you guys have like made it brand new.

Like you really remember what it's about. And it's about like speaking truth you guys have made it brand new. Like, you really remember what it's about. And it's about, like, speaking truth to power and how hard that is. Yeah. And what your character is going through, what Glinda is going through at the end of at least this movie is she's not able to be strong enough yet to really be a face of, like, dissent and rebellion. Like, she's seeing a truth and she's's it's like the journey that you have to go

through there of like, I know what's right, but I'm just not there. It's also just like a different, I mean, yes, but also there's a different version of that, which is that she is strong enough to know that she will never choose that because she can't, she doesn't have the tools and she knows what is important to her. And it's like, it's not that she's not ready to do that. It's just that she's not a person who's going to do that. And having the strength to know that the... Oh my God. Annoying. I'm so sorry.

No, I'm so curious about what you're no It's it's just like emotional because it's like of course it's acting and I'm not gonna you know Whatever you hit our marks and we do our thing and we sing our songs and we do what we're supposed to do But it really felt So real and it feels How it feels in real life when you really love someone, but the paths that you need to take for your own truth and life and who you are, it's like you can't actually,

you can't actually continue growing together. You're growing apart and you can still love that person so much and acknowledge that that's gonna be best for them, but it's not gonna be best for me. So I do have to not self abandon in this moment and I have to stay where I am. And I want you to go there, but I can't do it you. So I think it's certainty.

I think she's really sure in that moment. And I think that that's strength. Yeah. I don't think that it's that she's not strong enough to go. I think that she's strong enough to not go. Right, because there were, this is not to switch gears, but there were so many moments. There was one moment, I think it was during

the I Have Been Through. I Have Been Through. It was during the I Have Been Through scene where we were just ad-libbing and I was, I forgot what I pitched you, but I was like, okay, maybe we do our dance from school and like, I don't know, like I pitched you a line and then you looked me in the eyes

and this was done with such love and care and respect. What was it? I pitched you like a stupid fucking line of like, like we do like an accent or something and then you just look at, you look me dead in the eyes and you go, I'm not gonna do that. Did I really? It was so funny.

We were dying laughing because I was like, of course. I was like. Did I really? It was so funny. We were dying laughing. Cause I was like, of course. I was like, this is me playing too much with my friend. I was like, she's playing Galinda in the Wicked movie. I can't tell her, I can't tell her to do bits. Well, you can. Yes, you can. No, but literally-

We always tell each other what to do bits. We always did that. But at that point it was like, you know, four months in. Do you remember the strawberry months in to the process. Do you remember the strawberry bush? The strawberry bush. That shit broke me, and John can't find it, but I've been anxious to see it forever.

So in the scene when it's Dillaman's classroom and Dillaman's giving the lecture about like the history and like what happened. And food grew scarce. Right, food grew scarce and people were angry. And then what's the line? Like, what do people... People were looking for...

And she's like, something to... Someone to blame. Yeah, someone to... And then something to whatever. But there's one about food. There's one about food. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The great famine occurred.

Right, right, right. And people wanted to... People were very angry. People were looking for something to... People were looking... And what do angry people look for? And then Elphaba says, someone to blame. But then, on our coverage,

it was a three shot of me, Bronwyn, and you. We did an ad live, it was like, cause he mentions the famine, and then what do angry people do? What do angry people try to find? I'm butchering this. This is terrible. And then I go, wait, I'm ruining this.

Literally this is that set up. He said like a strawberry bush. I smacked him laughing. I literally, I took my paper and I smacked him with it. It was hell, it was so good. I wish it were somewhere. We have to find it, John. The strawberry bush was incredible.

And also so was when NASA flies up in the sky. That's my scream. I know that's your scream. And that's your scream. And everything is flying around and things are falling and the thing falls on the ground. And what are you doing? Oh!

Literally I'm like, oh, oh! I know how you scream. It was the ground. And what are you doing? And then I just literally, I'm like, oh, oh! I know how you scream. It was the best time. It's so powerful. It was the best thing ever. Before we ask you the question that is the central question of this podcast, I also want to say one other thing,

which is that this scene of the year for me is dancing through life when she comes in to the Aztec bar and that moment. Wow. Can you talk about shooting that? Yeah. Like, what was that experience? Well, I mean, I love first of all, I love the little shot of her peeking around the corner, like with her little hat and she's so excited and whatever.

But it's just it's hard to describe because how it feels to watch, picture that a solid 12 hours of that. Four days or something. Yes. Three days of shooting. That particular section, the main bulk of it was like one and a half days, but it was like one and a half days

of utter pin drop silence. And every single person in the room was absolutely just right there with Cynthia and kind of holding a very warm space, you know, for how much she was giving the whole time. And it's such an isolating and painful scene, you know, and even if you're acting, you know, it's just like, it's such a heartbreaking feeling. And I had such flutters and butterflies that whole day and it's just like holding space for her and then having this guilt and this realization that I'm responsible for this

and just sort of like looking at a friend and trying to course correct it just so much. It was a really intense day and I feel the same feelings when I watch it back that I did in the room on the day. Like it's- So emotional to watch. Yeah, it was a really intense day

and she's so beautiful in it. And I just remember at the end of like the 12th hour, me and Mark and John all just like took her aside and we were like, calm. And yeah, it was just a very, very, very powerful emotional day and she did such beautiful work and everyone just held the safest of spaces for her. And yeah, I like feel it when I watch it back. Certain scenes, like when they start happening, my body has like a physical reaction.

When she peeks around that corner, I like get anxious for what I know is gonna happen because I know how it felt on the day. And I think that's a sign of what beautiful work was done because I feel like when you watch it back, you feel how it felt on the day. And I think that's a sign of what beautiful work was done because I feel like when you watch it back, you feel how it felt in the room. And it's a wonderful reminder that you were so dropped in and present in that span of time,

which was a very long time. And I say four days because it was like with all the Oz stuff. Oh yes, yes, with the dancing and stuff. I'm talking about this part. I thought we were talking about that part. Yes, the loneliness that Cynthia is going through of I'm gonna have this dancing moment

and everyone's watching her being like, what's happening? And it's your realization that like, this is a human being who I've hurt and now I'm gonna show up for her. And the really wordless connection that you guys foster in that moment is so beautiful and everyone's gonna love the movie so much, obviously. She's so, so, so, so, so unfathomably spectacular in this film.

The choreography, I actually, even though we rehearsed it like once or twice before that day on set, I never learned it. Like I didn't want to remember it, because I just literally wanted to be like following her hands and like letting her lead the way. Because I felt like the more awkward it looks on Glinda, like the more beautiful it can be. You know, we're both just like little, like wild deer greeting each other

and trying to figure out how to speak the same language. And it's so beautifully awkward. And I love it very much. I loved her very much. And yeah, it's a ride, this movie. Going from that into popular is such a ride. And then back again and then back again. And you know, it's just like, it's a ride, this movie. Going from that into Popular is such a ride. And then back again and then back again. And you know, it's just like, it's a wild ride.

Popular is everything you want it to be. God, you're so fucking good. Thank you. Wait, can I just share one more of my favorite memories from the Osdus Ballroom? Yes. Other than the fun stuff that we did, the dancing and everything in the Osdus,

we had so much fun in the Osdus Ballroom. It really was like a week. It really was a week. It was a week, yeah. I was, yeah. But they gave us these like universal iPhones for behind the scenes stuff. It was actually only one. And I think you and Bronwyn had it for that week.

Yeah, for that whole week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just remember the vibe that day and Bronwyn and you both being like not no You know like this is intense shit and everyone's like is like okay, we're at the Dance is happening like no, we're not it's not the day and actually for that. What's up guys? This is Bowen Yang And I'm so excited because today is the day. Hi, day 14, we're here at the Asta's desk room.

We're about to group Bully, Cynthia Arrevo for Three Days Straight. I was like, are you kidding me? They were like, are you guys getting fun stuff? And it was like, no, no, no. Not today, in fact. Not today, it was like universal social media people, lovely, doing their job.

Like, giving things so accommodating. I just remember you and Bronwyn being like, social media people. Lovely, doing their job. Like giving things so accommodating. I just remember you and Bronwyn being like, not right now. Well, because it also is a little bit your characters, like your character doesn't get it. And by the way, you play a really good natural bully. You really do. And do you want to say your coverage in the on-stores?

I remember I got to sit behind the monitor and watch you and Bronwyn experience that scene. And it was just so beautiful. You two are so brilliantly hilarious, but also just everything was so palpable. The shift, it was so funny and so beautiful. And I loved it. I have an iPhone video, that whole take if you'd like it.

Oh my God, well, because you had the iPhone. I sure do. It wasn't the universal iPhone. This is my personal one. I filmed everything that happened from the whole two years. Well that was against the rules. I understand. But I'm a very honest thief.

He sent me some videos from the set. Yeah. Can I say? Yeah, yeah. Well, it's over now. What are we going to do? Edit you out? Oh, I hope not.

I perished the thought. But not to place myself in that moment in that scene, that very intense scene, but like, I kind of feel a degree of that same thing, where I watched it back and I was like, God, I feel like absolute shit. Because even in doing it, because acting is acting, whatever, but even in like bullying Cynthia throughout this movie, like, there were so many times where I went up to her

and I was like, I'm so sorry. This feels so rotted in my soul to treat you this way. I think it's just a testament to like the way she's being so completely raw and beautiful and vulnerable in every frame of this. And God, you're both, you couldn't ask for two better people to do this. That's beautiful and kind, thank you.

Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question. Let's ask you the question.

Hey there, my little creeps. It's your favorite ghost host, Tereza. And guess what? Haunting is back, dropping just in time for spooky season. Now I know you've probably been wandering the mortal plane, wondering when I'd be back to fill your ears with deliciously unsettling stories. Well, wonder no more, because we've got a ghoulishly good lineup ready for you. Let's just say things get a bit extra. We're talking spirits, demons,

and the kind of supernatural chaos that'll make your spooky season complete. You know how much I love this time of year. It's the one time I'm actually on trend. So grab your pumpkin spice, dust off that Ouija board, Just don't call me unless it's urgent. And tune in for new episodes every week. Remember, the veils are thin, the stories are spooky, and your favorite ghost host is back and badder than ever. ["The Last Supper"] Listen to Haunting on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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or wherever you listen to podcasts. Ariana Grande. Okay, sorry. What is the culture that made you say culture was for you? If you can look back in your life and you think Ari Grande became Ari Grande as a result of this influence, this thing in pop culture, this moment, whatever it is, can you speak on that? Yeah. I mean, I think musical theater. Yeah. Like, I think Sheri Renee Scott I mean, I loved the soundtrack. I was really little. I don't think I actually saw it. I saw it with Toni Braxton But I saw it in my god work

No, but I saw I saw her in Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Yeah, and I remember being like that's Life changing to see. She's the best in the world. You look at someone doing musical theater at a level like that and you're like, oh, well, I'm watching the most talented person on earth. Yes. I mean her and Kristen and Sutton Foster and just these like ladies who I grew up just listening

on repeat and just like my musical theater goddesses, you know? I don't know. Right? Does it feel like… Yeah, absolutely. And I guess my question for you is like, you know, I'm watching Wicked and I had that feeling of like, well, she needs to act more. But then also at the same time, it's like, you are probably the most like, just important,

gifted, like relevant pop artists. No. But let me say it because I believe it. And then you're like, does Broadway fit into that? Like, is it something that would make sense for you? And is it in your heart to actually go to the stage and do that? It's, it is my heart. You know, it is like, I'm going to say something so scary. It's going to scare the absolute shit out of my fans and everyone, but I love them and they'll deal and we'll be here forever. I'm always going to make music.

I'm always going to go on stage. I'm always going to do pop stuff. I pinky promise. But I don't think doing it at the rate that I've been doing it for the past 10 years is where I see the next 10 years going. I think I love acting. I love musical theater. I think reconnecting with this part of myself who started in musical theater and who loves comedy and it heals me to do that. Finding roles to use these parts of myself, you know, and put them in little homes and characters and bits and voices and songs.

It really does in a different way than songwriting and writing about my own pain, because it's just kind of like constantly reliving that one thing that you wrote the song about, or that is, you know, and finding a character and putting the pieces there, finding a little home for them there, and then them coming back and feeding you and teaching you new things through performing the act of being, Glinda, whatever, you know, and taking pieces

from her back, it really feeds you. And I think that I would love to, in whatever makes sense or whatever roles that we see fit or where I could really do a good job or honor the material, I would really love to because I think it's a lot better for me. Yeah, I hear you. I'm getting emotional. No, but I want you to know like when, and I've been listening to, I will listen to you all the time, but like so many of my favorite songs of yours, I can tell are unbearable for you to put out there.

Like I listen to, I won't even say the song title. Don't get me started, I'm fine. Imagine, I mean, like I hated you. Like I had such an experience and I have my own theories about like what We Can't Be Friends is, but I think the video like is something that spoke to I know me personally and so many people in such a visceral way and there's that moment in the video which by the way is the video and everyone knows it. So there's that moment where you hesitate in the process of having

your memories removed and you're it's like, I don't wanna let go. I'm actually uneasy. Maybe my pain is really important and if I lose that, where am I going next? Like, it's scary. And I think that that's such a specific thing to get across, but has to be painful to literally fixate on the idea of eternal sunshine.

Because the idea is that we feel this way, we want to create something called eternal sunshine, because the idea is that we want to, we feel this way, we want to create something called eternal sunshine because we're fixating on wanting to remove those emotions, and yet here we are literally performing them. And I think that you're so sensitive and such a, you know, what you could say cancer vibes or whatever, but like, you're so in tune to your work and you're so giving of yourself that it has to feel fucking exhausting. And so if you have other talents and other like interests, I get that.

I love you back. That was such a thoughtful parade of like thoughtfulness. I love you. Thanks. I don't. Yeah. Yeah, I hear you. He's good at that.

He's got the thoughtful parade of thoughtfulness. Well, I mean, I don't know. Good job at talking, Arianna. No, that's not the thing. But no, I guess what I'm saying is like, it's not, the thing is I'm not even asking you a question. I guess I'm just acknowledging and seeing, and I want you to know that as your fan,

like we just want you to feed yourself and like do what makes you feel good and evolve. I love you. And you are evolving. Like in this movie, like I'm makes you feel good and evolve I love you And you are evolving like like in this movie like I'm telling you like now am I gonna cry? Like I just feel like it's so amazing to see someone do something they were born to do like and I don't know I I have always felt like especially because you've been such a good sister to my sister. I just like Want you to be happy and I root for you. Oh my god. I'm sorry. Man oh my god. Okay. I feel like I feel you know you're just but

this is like what you do you're such an available open and emotional person and I deeply. We're so far away that was weird but thank you for taking the risk. Yeah. Oh my God. By the way, I'm a little arms. But you yanked her down to the floor. I think my chair is like cemented to the ground. No, no. Okay, I got it. That just reminded me of when I did Celebrity Wheel of Fortune with Paula Abdul.

She's so small that she would do the wheel and the wheel would take her. Take her in it. Take her in it. So it was like she's in the middle and like, I'm here, like this is Paula. She goes, all right, here we go. Ah!

And I'm like, I flew away and like her leg went up. She was a good sport about it. She was a good sport about it. Can I just thank you for saying that just because it was so incredibly kind and I really appreciate it and I am going to carry it with me. Art also is what feeds me.

Of course. So in whatever capacity it is, I'll always be doing and creating six different things at once. You know what I mean? I don't see that going anywhere. I just see it kind of like shifting and becoming a little different. Right chapters.

You know what I mean? Like there's, I'm thankful to you for positions because that was my fucking fuck album for the pandemic I'll look you in the eyes and say oh my god. I'm telling you there's not a better piece It was beautiful the characters needed But like, yeah, I mean. You really did it, it was beautiful. The characters needed it. But yeah, thank you. Thank you, that's such a funny thing. The life cycle that album has taken,

because when it came out, it was kind of like, it didn't go so well. Bizarre. Did it feel like it came out in a soft way, whereas the Thank You, Next, and Sweeter had been such moments? Or do you care about that even? No, no, no, no, no, no, not even like that.

I just mean as far as like what my fans were saying and like, oh, they were like in the beginning of the positions of it all like it kind of was I got a little I I'm not gonna like use this word and I'm bullied but you know, you know, yeah I just got like a little bit of This is not what we want vibes, I think. And I remember that really, I'm such a sensitive artist, but whatever. This is the point, you put art there

so that people can tear it apart and do whatever they want with it or celebrate it. I understand. I'm very grateful and in acceptance to be here. When I preface this, I need to preface it with that because I know it comes with being an artist. But I also am a cancer and very sensitive. So I just remember that really like put me in a cage of like judging every single piece.

I like scrapped so many things that I was like gonna put out for it. And now people are just they love it like it's the best thing I'll ever make. And I'm like, what is that? I'm like, how is that fair? It takes people time sometimes, especially when they really get worked up in their heads that we're gonna get a certain thing and then it's a little different. But I love them for it and it's okay and it's fine and it's not mine anymore.

That's the thing that I also have to say because I am aware, it's like a part of it. And I'm grateful for the voices and for the passion. I am, I really am. You release it. But I'm also a person. Of course, and so this is what makes you a true realized artist is that you are incredibly emotionally intelligent.

I think EQ, you're the highest EQ person. Einstein EQ, period. I think that every artist, not every artist, like it kind of is this fun little jewel now on everyone, on every artist's like crown where it's like, oh, you put out a body of work that ends up being at the time mischaracterized or misinterpreted and then over time it develops the patina and people are like,

oh my God, this was always great. It's strange to watch happen. It's kind of interesting. But I feel like with what you're saying about being an artist like I mean we've had conversations about this Especially when eternal sunshine came out. We're like god. This is really Everything is so considered and I was even watching you Do your makeup video for the boys mine and I'm like, I don't want it. This is the stupidest question But I have to ask you.

It's gonna be dumb. No. Because you're so good at makeup, do you have an interest or have you explored drawing? Do you know what I mean? Like you're so dexterous with your, like, you're able to, no, no, look at me. I'm not dexterous with you. What you you're able to know I know look at me

Somewhere just like what could you consider? Painting me today. He brings out an easel and some oil paint Actually, I paint I paint with my dad sometimes. Yeah, you're like little like paint and steps sometimes paint with my dad sometimes. We do like little like paint and steps sometimes. So that's really cute. Things like watercolors. And I painted for Cynthia actually, I painted a cute little thing of Munchkinland.

And it's like the tulips with the yellow brick road up the middle. And then there's a little bubble in the sky and there's a green like cloudy behind it and a little tiny little Alfie and the monkeys behind. So I painted that for her, but I don't have that much time to color a paint, so I don't, but I love to.

And I'm very creative. My dad is like an artist in every way, graphic designer, photographer, painter. Yes. And he's super creative in that way. And I thought that's so nice. No one's ever talked to me about painting, but coloring before.

Right, but I'm saying it makes sense to me. Like you're so precise with the hand. Coloring's amazing. Adults need to color. I love a coloring book, especially when it's a funny concept. I just bought the one of Oz for Cynthia. Oh, that's great.

Yes. And the thing is, my mom. What was the way I said that? And the thing is, is that when you get a wicked coloring book, like you kind of think like, oh, I know what everything should be. And so then you just do it your own way. Suddenly Elphaba is not green, she's purple.

Think about that for once. But my mom recently was like, oh, is that a coloring book? It was like, she came over and I was like, I haven't seen one in a long time. And she self proclaims, she came over and I was like, you were like, yeah. She was like, and she, she self proclaims. Yeah. I haven't seen one of those in a while, but no, she, she says she's not like creative and that she doesn't like things like that,

but she loves it. And I was like, mommy, you don't need to be, you know, creative. She's a business brilliant person, but she, I gave her the colored pencils and the coloring book and she loved it. But also picture the character from SNL and she was coloring so hard. She was like, I love this.

And I was like, mommy. That was based in reality? Oh yes. Wait, should we talk about this? Talk about the origin story of that. And this is why you should not apologize for like, you did not text me a bunch before in the lead up. Like this is, thank God you did because like literally you did not text me a bunch before in the lead up.

Like this is, thank God you did because like literally, like you weren't helping write the piece. What has happened? Two months before the show, before you came on. Yeah, it was Labor Day weekend and my brother-in-law, Hale's family was visiting and we had a lovely, fun game day and it was so fun and funny and sweet. And my mom is by the way, the most generous, kindest, And it was so fun and funny and sweet.

And my mom is, by the way, the most generous, kindest, giving person in the entire world. She is like the hostess with the mostest. She will walk in and there are like a million fruit trays and vegan options for the vegan people, people being me and Hale only. But even that deserves, you know, she wants to take everyone everywhere. And she's just the best. She's the kindest, most generous person in the entire world.

But. Competitive. Yeah. And fiercely protective of her children. I see. So even if we're playing, you know, charades and whatever, you don't fuck around. So this is what happened. And I excused myself immediately to send a voice note to Bo and I said, okay, well, hi. There's something brewing here. Yes, we're playing

charades and, and Hill's brother, my brother-in-law's brother, who they're all so sweet, they're amazing, was like, ha ha, we're winning vibes. That was the extent of it, he was like, hoo hoo, we're ahead. We're ahead. And my mom goes, tiny dick syndrome, huh? And I was like this.

Mommy, mommy, wait, that's intense and harmful. That's like so intense. And we all were laughing. And of course, like, he laughed and everyone was laughing. But she was like, well, that's a sign of what that is. And I was like, mommy, this is insane. And then I started doing it as a bit for Jesse, Hell's other brother. And he was like crying tears.

And I was like, I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. I'm gonna cry. Mommy, this is insane. And then I started doing it as a bit for Jesse, Hell's other brother. And he was like crying tears, tears. And like it lasted the whole day. So I was like, Bowen, we have to do something with this, please. It's just so silly. And I have my jaw dropped.

I was like, June. Yeah. And also we have like a very aggressive game playing family too. I'm like the opposite. So where my mom and Frankie and Hale sit on the spectrum of, I am an alien in my family a little bit because I'm like, I don't care. I just wanna have fun and I wanna be there

and I'm here for a good time. Gotcha. You know, I'm okay. I just wanna play the game. I'm happy to be there. I don't even know half the rules. I'm just- Winning is not your culture. Yeah, being here is a great time. And I miss everyone when I'm not home and you know, this is a great time. And I miss everyone when I'm not home.

And you know, this is a great time. Not for Hale or Frankie or my mom. It is real, it's real deal. And Hale's a real gamer though. He knows games that no one's ever heard of in the history of the world. He's like a genius nerd person who loves games. And Frankie can't, can't lose a game.

Mommy can't lose a game. Cause you know what, first of all, They can't lose a game. Mommy can't lose a game. Because you know what? First of all, Ari's vibe on Jackbox is A++++. I love Jackbox, we need to try and meet the players. Yeah, that's what we need to do. We need to do that. We need to do. Jackbox, we need to get J and A.

J and A, Josh and Erin to here to be jacked by you. See, this is what this, I see it in my mind. I love them. I love your whole group. They're the best. They're the best. They really truly are the funniest. Have you seen fucking identical twins? I watched Dicks. Yeah, we watched Dicks together.

I mean, I'm obsessed with them. They're angels from heaven. Yeah, that's like a truly fun game too, because really who cares if you win? Like it's fun if you win, but it's really more just about making each other laugh. Giggles, yeah, it's about laughter. Frankie was about the points though, he's always about the points.

He is about the points too, it was so funny. You know what that might be though? Cause I also am like, I'm the oldest and I'm a gay son, so there's that little bit thing of like best little boy in the world, I'm gonna win the game. Because like, you know what I'm saying? That might be a thing. Because you're not really competitive need to win time.

No, never. You're really not. Can we, wait, sorry, I'm sorry. But speaking of Frankie, can we go see Rocky Horror? Yes, yes. While it's still happening, please. How longer is it happening? How long is it happening?

I don't know, actually. We'll go. Tonight. That's it. You know what, I'm seeing tonight's Cabaret. Oh my God. I'm seeing tonight? Cabaret. Oh my God. Marty and Cabaret.

Really? I'm so jealous. I know, I saw it in the West End with Jake Shears. Oh great. And it was great. And I'm seeing it again. I haven't seen it yet in New York. I love Cabaret.

It's one of my favorite shows. Oh my God, I wish. Are you coming to the screening tonight? I wasn't told the details. And so I wasn't planning. I would love to. I'll tell you the details. That's actually gonna be really fun

because it's gonna be all the Broadway people seeing it. But I wish I could be coming with you. We wish we could have both at the same time. I want to see Marty and Cabaret. They're my favorite MC. Really? Love that. I cannot wait. What a beautiful person inside and out. Oh, absolutely. Good vibe.

Absolutely. Isn't it great when like, because you're like a Drag Race fan. Yes. You watch every season? I watch almost every, I mean, I try to, yeah. I'm a big Drag Race fan. Have you been judged twice or once? Twice. Season seven season.

I remember season seven, iconically, that was a really amazing episode. The first time you were there and they did break free at the end. I wish I remembered more of that experience. It's okay. You were great. And they did break free and it was Candy Ho versus Mama Who Won.

Not who won the show but won the lip sync. I'm forgetting her name. Jaden D'Orefiers. Yes, Jaden D'Orefiers. Yeah, that was crazily. The morning after we shot the Bang Bang video and I had no sleep and I came straight there and it was like a full 12 hour day.

It's a surreal thing to be, when we were there, we also had a really good episode actually. We had a great episode, but those were long days. Your episode, oh my God, yeah, no, it was beautiful. That was fun, and we got hallucinated by Dua, was the lip sync, and we are screaming the whole time. When they cut to us and we are living the fantasy, because it was Jasmine Kennedy.

Of course. Like really ripping it up. It was, that was a great, great, great episode. We'll figure it out. We'll go see it. Okay, so Marty, wait, hold on. We need to talk about something before we go, move on to I Don't Think So Honey.

I can't even believe we're gonna move on. Why is, why could this? This should go on for six more hours. I know. Can we do like a little more? What's in the fantasy? Of course. Hold on. No one has to be anywhere.

It's 2 20, no one has to be anywhere. You sure? No, I'm okay. Are you sure? Cause this isn't like a press day for you or is it? This is a press day for me, but this is the most important part. What else are you doing?

I do have to leave at three. That's perfect. Okay, no problem. No, it's- You hear that? It's 2 20. If I can leave by three, we're good. I'll be completely early and on time.

You know what else you need to go see and you need to go see is Sunset Boulevard with Nicole. I know, I know. I mean that's that's everything I could want for a person. I love this moment for her so much. She is so in her element, so dropped in, so beautiful, so fucking talented. Yeah. Yes. And I love that. The pictures of her in blood at the stage door. It's iconic.

Me. That's a mood. That's a mood. But Nicole, I love watching someone. It's iconic, huh? That's me. That's a mood. That's you. That's a mood. But Nicole, I love watching someone. She's so brilliant. It's like seeing you in the Wicked movie. It's like when you watch someone, and you go, oh, that's where they're supposed to be.

How beautiful that it's happening. And I'm telling you right now, I was at the opening night of Sunset Boulevard. I sat next to Candy Burris. Oh my God. The legend. Like literally star studded. So many people there like sitting there watching her.

And I thought, wow, she is stepping into destiny right now. She's giving one of those performances. Everyone will always talk about. And it is, it is amazing. Yeah. It's beautiful to see even like from afar as a person who hasn't even seen it yet. I'm like, oh, I know exactly what's coming. We need to talk about figment.

Oh, let's get into it. We do need to talk about figment. So this is also another moment where I was like, Oh, we're supposed to be in each other's lives forever. We're supposed to be in each other's lives. And then I also thought, and did I not tell you, I was like, you need to meet my friend, Matt Rogers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was actually the moment. That was the moment. We need to go to Disney together. Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was actually the moment. That was the moment. We need to go to Disney together. Absolutely. There? Which one? Florida or California? I'm an Orlando girlie.

Okay. I mean, I'm connected to- Me too. Me too. We share that. Yes. We share that. I mean, okay.

And also it's where the Tower of Terror remains. 100%. And can you speak on this? Because this is really important because this came up with Mariah. We mentioned you on the Mariah episode. I saw that. And speak on Tower of Terror. Speak on Disney. Whoa

Okay, I want to speak on the Tower of Terror. Yes. Start there. Because I love I love and I respect Guardians of the Galaxy. Yeah, we- of course I do. I think it's a beautiful experience. a beautiful thing It's impressive. It's amazing. I'm like a big baby Groot person. Yeah, really cool I don't remember, you know much about her, but I love her. Yes, and I Just think that it is that one that was a zipper that was not a fart. I'm sorry No, but I'm sorry it had to be called no not a fart. I'm sorry. There was a noise over there. There was a noise down here, which could have gone either way. No. But I have to tell you, it had to be called that.

No, no, no. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, please. This space is yours. I'm in your home. No, and you're literally about to like meditate on Tower of Terror. No, no, no. Please. Honestly, I'm glad that happened because something needed to break the tension of what I was feeling inside. You felt tense? About the Tower of Terror. You're angsty about this because you feel it's an endangered species. It's not angst, it's dire desperation.

It's like real desperation to protect and preserve what is the Tower of Terror. Yeah, I believe it should be a historical landmark. Absolutely, and I think it's really important and great that there is the Guardians of the Galaxy ride in California, I think that's perfect. And Aurora's Castle, all of that's great. And I love that that's the first and it's there.

When it comes to Florida, when it comes to the Disney in Florida. Don't do it. First of all, we get Cinderella's Castle, which is, you know. Also a landmark. She's large and in charge. Yes, she is. My mom tells us too often that she wants her ashes

sprinkled over it. And I'm like, mom, it's Christmas. Do we have to talk about this right now? And she's like, yeah, you have to make sure that that happens. And I'm like, mom, I don't want to make sure that that happens. Also, I think there's actors back there working. So you're going to be sprinkled on people's heads

who are dressed to stinker bell waiting for their cue. Totally. There's like a hotel room in there. Yeah, absolutely. There's lots happening back there. It's kind of small, right? I've heard the like like what you think the experience of saying and that I've been in there Have you I've been in there because I performed at the castle one time and I got to change in there Oh, which was really cool and it's really beautiful and it's really it feels very real. Do you have a club 33 membership? I don't but you've been in I've been there. Yeah, I've been through I've been through I've been through Feels a little extreme to me. Yeah I've somehow gotten in but you have a

I am like the kind of mental illness where it's like, I will one day. Sure. Like I have a sick disease that no one can figure out what it is, where like I will go there. Something happens to me when I go there. If you do it, I'll do it. Okay, let's do it.

I'm in. We'll get on the list. Okay, put us on the list. Hang on. Whoever the powers that be. Yeah, put us on the list. But we have to make that happen. Yeah.

Absolutely. Keep talking. No, I just, I think it's actually one of the most important things. It's art. That it's day. Yeah. Absolutely.

Did you ever tell Ari about when we had to be evacuated? It broke on us. The tower? It literally- We were on a metric ton of edible, what did we do? Rice Krispies. Rice Krispies.

Oh my goodness. And it broke down? And it broke down, not like, as you're about to go in. When she goes forward? When she goes forward. Right. It broke down. That's so scary.

And we were stoned out of our gourd, being like, yo, is this happening? Honestly, it was like- That's not fair. It was the kind of thing where it was like- That's not good. We were between worlds. Right, right were between worlds while we were like, between worlds.

And so what they ended up doing was, someone kind of comes in out of the shadows. Out of the proscenium. And goes, you guys need to get up and out. Wait, how do they get in there? Stairs. Whoa. So, and I hate an illusion being shattered,

but it was, but it was kind of fascinating. Cause they go, you guys need to get up, walk into the Twilight Zone, and step out through the exit door. Take a real elevator down. I don't want to know where the exit door is. We're not going to tell you, but isn't that crazy? That's really crazy.

I'm so glad that you're safe and that it was fine. I hope one day you experience this. I don't want to know where the exit is. Oh, I don't like when Eli breaks down. I mean, like breaking news. Have you been down there to do the Guardians roller coaster in Epcot? Amazing. Another piece of art.

That's what it should be. That's close. That's what it should be. That's incredible. And the music is different every time. And it's just fabulous. When Cunga plays? Crazy.

Crazy. It goes crazy. Absolutely so glad you brought that up because I was gonna bring it up. Oh, so you, this was funny. So we ended up going a bunch of times and I was like, God, I wish it was Conga. And they go, they say that it's gonna happen in two things

and they can put you on the train for Conga. And we did it and it was the best And then what was it that you want? I really wanted tears for fears. Everybody wants to roll the right right right right and they we never got up They couldn't figure it out from Owen. No problem. I Will have to go again. We'll have to go again on set on wicked. There's a sculpted sort of thing a gigantic sculpted sort of thing, a gigantic sculpted... Jeff Goldblum.

A thing of Jeff Goldblum as the wizard. Wait, do you remember when we discovered his head and we didn't know about it? We didn't know, and then I remember, I have pictures of it. Yeah, because we were going for a walk. We were going for a walk. Talking about life. And then we happened upon this gigantic face

of Jeff Goldblum. Of Jeff Goldblum's face. And we were like, dear God, oh my goodness, Jeff. Basically a two story tall sculpted face mask of Jeff Goldblum and we're like, wow, this is crazy. And then it's in the movie, it serves a purpose. Yes, it serves a beautiful purpose, but we just had no idea and we were so disarmed by it.

Yes. Was this figment? No, figment. But in a way, one day we were on set. We were on set and we were just like... Talking about our favorite characters. And you said you love Figment. Journey into the imagination. Yes, because we were like, oh my gosh.

Like, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. We had said, oh my gosh. You know who I love that Figment? That Figment guy. No, get up girl. Diva down. Wait, no, here's the actual question I need answered absolutely right now.

If they were to add one of your songs to Guardians of the Galaxy. I don't want, they don't have to do that. Don't do that because I want it. No, don't make her. Why is it into you? Why is it into you? Can you imagine? I'm so like, I would be gagging.

You're like, I would love to ride the Ghostin' Guardians of the Galaxy version. Ghostin'? No! It's like, I can be needed. I was watching for some reason, sometimes as I want to do, I'll watch like old clips of The Voice. Yes. Would you ever go back and do that again?

And do you think you mostly did it because the chair spun? So no, but I, it was a perk. It was a good perk. The theme park thing of this. Yes. It's so crazy. It feels really fun to me. It is really fun. Clearly to you too. You have to, you have to go do it at some point. I would love to hit the button. It's really fun. Yeah. It's really fun. I, I got so emotionally attached to button. It's really fun. Yeah. It's really fun. I got so emotionally attached to everyone. That's my problem.

I can't really do that because I really get in. I really get in there with everyone. I love everyone so much. I love meeting people and I felt so invested. And I still do. Like I see them all on Instagram. Do you keep in touch with? Yes. I mean, not I've been busy. I haven't really been in touch with anyone, but I see them all on Instagram. Do you keep in touch with? Yes, I mean not I've been busy.

I haven't really been in touch with anyone, but I love them and I'm in touch with them on Instagram. Like I like their posts. I see their things. I see what they're up to. Bella had a baby. Oh, Sasha's putting out solo music. Sasha of Jim and Sasha.

And you know, I mean like he sent me his project last year and he's so talented Yeah, and so I'm still in touch with some of them, but I it's just like I get very involved Yeah, and also like for a non-competitive person like the the rest of those judges were really competitive like Kelly is really I love her. I love it. That is so she's the best in the world Is she the best singer in the world? She's fucking incredible. I think it could be. Kelly Clarkson. Yeah, it could be a thing. She's unbelievable.

Just wild. She really is one of the greatest vocalists that there ever has been ever. So were you being young when she was on American Idol, was that a trip for you? I wonder when you meet these people that are now your peers. Right. Oh gosh.

Well, it feels probably odd to say it. It feels crazy. You as someone who's like a really reverent, like, respecter of these vocal legends. Like, now to hear them, just to be able to engage with them. Like, how do you approach that? I mean, so many things that have come to be in my life feel like such a dream. Like I can't really fathom a lot of things. You know, even getting to know Imogen Heap.

Just kind of meeting her was one of the best things that has ever happened ever. I was so in shock and all. The first time I went to go meet her, I thought it was me and Catfished. I didn't really think it was gonna be her. I was really scared and then I got kind of lost in the woods and I was like, this is it, I'm done.

It was in the woods. Well, the journey there. I'm not gonna like drop a pin. I'm not gonna like drop a location. She said meet me. In Emmy's house. I'm in the Poconos. No, but it really is a trip.

I just feel so deeply grateful because so much of the art that I have loved, I've developed an interesting relationship with artists that I've loved. And you know when they say, don't meet your idols, I've had so many positive experiences of that. And I'm so grateful for that, you know? Can I share what the moment was that I got to witness of you meeting Stevie Nix? Yeah. It was for promos on Thursday.

Oh my goodness. She had written me a letter a few years ago. So we had spoken. You'd been in contact. We had spoken once before, but we had never met. But sorry, I didn't interrupt. No, no, no. And Ari and I were already on the floor,

just like giggling, being stupid. And then they bring Stevie on and I just kind of immediately knew to back away. Stevie took Ari's hands and was like, I have to tell you that I loved your video for We Can't Be Friends. It reminded me of so many people that I have come across in my life.

Probably brought Lindsay Buckingham up. Sure, totally. And like, for whatever the song means, like for her to- That was such a surreal moment. I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe anything. She's so kind and so cool and so beautiful. I can't really get over what that was like spending those few days together

and sharing the space with her. Just such a warm, beautiful good witch in every sense. You know, just overly generous, like overly friendly, overly kind. And I don't know, I feel like I love meeting people and talking, but sometimes I can go and overstay my welcome, I feel it. And I felt like I wasn't doing that,

and she just wanted to keep going with me. And I was like, oh my goodness, we're both going and going and going. And she's such a, just a sweet, kind, kind energy. And I just, I couldn't wrap my head around it. What she's offering right now too with this new song, like I was watching an interview with her a couple days ago and you know, the song is about like women

like acting right now and like, you know, voting and fighting the fight, like and really making sure that we don't lose rights. And, but she was really talking about it in a way of service. She said this line in this interview where she was like, I was given this gift and I'm doing my job. She's like, I'm out here. And you get the sense that it's just like,

you know, she didn't have to do Saturday Night Live. You know what I mean? I would imagine that's a pretty daunting thing to be asked. And she spoke on how nervous she was, but you get the sense that she's like, no, I'm being given this opportunity. I have this to offer. And she kept saying, you know, I tell a good story, so I'm gonna go out there and tell the story.

And it was just like, there was like a selfless artist mentality that she so clearly had and has had. There's work to be done and I'm gonna do it. She's unbelievable. There's a serviceability in what she does that she knows about. You know, she's like, I'm going to like be the vehicle for this message. That's God.

I just love her. I loved seeing you guys together. That was really fun. It felt really special. Yeah. The BTS. Because I remember we got to be on the floor for Agile 17. And so there was a moment where, for some reason,

they had to hold it back for a second. Like I guess maybe some commercial was going too long or whatever, there was a moment, but I was watching you guys interact with each other and like have a moment of play in that moment. And I was like, this is very, it's like obviously a cool live TV moment, like where they get to count down a few different times,

but just watching you guys together was a really fun. It was really sweet. It was a moment. We both kind of looked at each other, we were like. Yeah, yeah. And it was very sweet. Yeah.

You know, when live things like that are happening, everyone gets a little nervous, and we felt like the audience get a little tense too, so we started doing like a bit with them too. It was really fun. You could play her in a biopic. Oh, why? If that, not to be like, that should happen in the way that,

you can cut it if you want, but you could. Oh my goodness. There are so many girlies that would be perfect for that. Well, I'm just saying, you know, maybe one of the girlies. Stevie should play Stevie in that. Oh, there you go. No one can do Stevie better than Stevie. It's like when Fantasia played herself.

Absolutely. Remember that? It was years ago, Fantasia played herself in her own biopic for Lifetime. Yes! Yes. Genius. Should happen more.

Do you remember when Cher played everyone in West Side Story? West Side Story. Yeah. Iconic. Fabulous. You can pull that off. That's really fun.

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that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better, and that we can be better. With the help of Stanford psychologist, Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans, even those we disagree with,

are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch, is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in a relationship with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. With our final 20 minutes, let's cross into I Don't Think So Honey because I Don't Think So Honey was provoked conversation and I want to leave room for it.

So I Don't Think So Honey is our 60-second segment where we all rant, rail, and rave against something in culture that just bothers us. And it's a cathartic moment, and we're all going to be made better for it. I have something that I'd like to do. I don't really have like... I haven't planned anything out. I just have my emotions on this thing.

Okay, that's good. This is Matt Rogers, I Don't planned anything out. I just have my emotions on this thing. Okay, that's good This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so honey his time starts. Yeah, I don't think so honey calamari Can I ask you a genuine question who actually cares? I do you you actually care about calamari you think that you I don't think so honey that it's ever different one place to the other Don't get me wrong. It's a really good appetizer There's no versatility and if you get into being versatile with your calamari, what's gonna happen is it's not fried. Then it's just like what?

Boiled calamari? Sure. I'm sorry, but no. I'm vegan. It's boring. It's boring. The things we can do with other appetizers. 30 seconds. Look at wings.

Look at my girl wings. You can have her lemon pepper. You can have her buffalo. You can have her barbecue. And I've only listed three I don't have time to list the rest but what I'm saying is the versatility now I hear you at home Matt What about Buffalo calamari you have a point 15 seconds, but you don't see it You don't hear about it calamari physics something that's on the table constantly and I'm like, that's great

But are we just not using our imaginations five Put Brussels sprouts on the table as an appetizer. I'm saying it, but he is nodding. And I want to say, let's get more creative with appetizers, seafood restaurants. I'm looking at you like, come on, let's get the raw bar together. That's quite enough. That's one minute.

Wow. I just feel, I don't think anyone agrees with me. I agree. I don't think, I mean, but I also have never had it. I don't want to eat them. You don't want never had it. I don't want to eat them. You don't want to eat them. I don't want to eat them. I think it's better for the world. Yeah, I hear that deeply.

But to each their own. To each their own. Because you're right. It is better for the world. I mean, when Natalie Portman came out with that documentary, that was, did you ever watch her doc? No. Eating animals. Eating animals. It was what it was called. And it was so crazy to watch her do press for it because she was like, listen documentary does talk about how it's much much better for the world for us to not do it

But I'm not telling you not to I'm just here with my documentary. Yeah, and like watch it or don't this is the choice I made for myself, but she's not that you're wrong. I'm just right Which is a vibe yeah Two things can be true. Yeah, two things can be true. It's not that you're wrong, I'm just right. Right, absolutely. I'm right and you might be wrong. I'm big and you're small.

What's that from? Trunchbull. Oh, the filter. Say the legend's name, Trunchbull. Trunchbull. I have a question. Yeah? Yeah. Should my thing be about the Tower of Terror? Absolutely. Should I read everything? Yeah. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Hold on, I have to question. Should my thing be about my, the Tower of Terror? Absolutely.

Should I read it again? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Hold on, I have to get it. Wait, do you wanna go in that? I'll go, I'll go. I'm just pulling it up. I'll just pull it up. I do wanna say, I wanna push back and say

that you cannot say that anyone who likes calamari is unimaginative when it comes to appetizers. I just think that they're- You don't like it. All the sauces you named for wings can easily be slathered onto an octopus. But you don't talk about it like that. I'm just offering up my rebuttal, that's all. You are a color, are you a Color Mari Queen?

I love Calamari. Have you ever watched the like, My Best Friend the Octopus? Yes. Oh, my octopus teacher. My octopus teacher. My octopus teacher, that's what it's called. That's a movie for dads, for sure.

My dad loves that show. For dads and me. Yeah, you know what I've seen like four times? Blackfish. Yeah, that's a doozy. And I stay watching it. Four is, four is, doesn't it stay with you after one? No, I have a mental illness that no one can tell me

what it is, the things I do sometimes. Oh, Twitter will tell ya. Oh my God. They'll tell ya. I know they will. Oh, come on. Oh, come on. One day they all came for me'll tell ya. I know they will. Come on. Come on.

One day they all came for me, they were like, Matt has ADHD, and I was like, stop, and then I was, now I'm like, I do. Absolutely, yeah. No, you cannot. They tell me I have a lot of things. God. Guys, stop.

I understand, no, I'm kidding. I'm joking, you're actually invasive and scary. I'm right, I put my box on, I look at the computer, I'm like, what did they say I have? I'm like, write that down, that down, that down. No, just wrong and loud and unhealthy. Wrong and loud? Yeah.

Wrong and loud. That's toxic. You ready to be right and loud? Yeah. So here comes Bowen Yang, by the way, I was showing Ari the intermediate Mariah playlist. This is good stuff. You need to send that to me.

Yeah, I will, I will. It's a good one. Okay, so Bowen Yang, locked, loaded, ready to rip, roar, and ride. I Don't Think So Honey, time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, Ginger. I don't like the way you're shaped. I go to the grocery store, you're shaped like branched dicks.

And I don't like how you slice into it and you leave it on the counter and it becomes stringy. And then Nigella Lawson describes Ginger as having a spicy warmth. I go, shut up. It is, it doesn't do anything. When was the last time a Ginger shot kept you from having a cold?

Me? Yeah, hi. Damn it. 30 seconds. It is, it is not pulling its weight anymore. Ginger, you think it's the placebo y'all. I'm telling you for a fact. It is not actually doing anything.

You're eating something spicy and gross and it's not actually good anymore. And big ginger has making all these candies now that make you feel like you're supposed to be healthy. No, I don't think so many ginger, you're shaped weird. I don't think we're ever supposed to have eaten you. We're supposed to have let you grow in the ground and take roots and be buried.

Look at the faces of your friends. They're laughing. They're laughing next to us. I couldn't have been at us. No, I think they're laughing at us. If you're laughing at us, say woo! Oh no! Oh no, your wing doesn't stand. Oh no, thank you.

Thank you guys. Thank you. Well, I think- Well, now we're both embarrassed. You stand by your calamari, I don't think so, honey. This is a disaster. Ginger rocks. Ginger is fabulous.

Yeah. I'm sorry. I've always thought so, until I used it for a dish yesterday. And I went. What was the dish? Yeah, tell us. It was a curry. It belongs, it has to be in curry, doesn't it?

You would think. Too much. Well. Much too much. Did you just put too much in? That's on ginger. That can happen. That's on ginger.

Much like Star Anise has a big presence. Sucks up all the space in the room. Certain's on Ginger. Ginger, much like Star Anise, has a big presence. Sucks up all the space in the room. Certain flavors really can't be, you can't share a dish with them. No. I think they're very self-conscious about it. I think Star Anise comes into the room and is like, hi. Hey. I'm sorry.

It's good to see you guys. Sorry to take up so much space. And Celery's like, fuck! I don't think people know you as a culinary icon. You are. Has it been something you're holding back from the world? Well, I mean, I don't think I'm a culinary icon. Giada is shook. Giada is shaking.

I do like to. Don't you feel Giada shaking? I think Giada De Laurentiis is shaking. What does Giada De Laurentiis have anything to do with this? I think Giada De Laurentiis is watching this right now beingada De Laurentiis have anything to do with this? I think Giada De Laurentiis is watching this right now and being like, fuck, Ariana is good. She's coming for me. She's cooking.

Yeah, she's cooking now. I am cooking. I am cooking. I like to cook. I do. I think that's enough of that. I don't think there's life there. I don't think that's interesting

or adds value to this podcast. Who cares? Who cares a shit? What am I gonna sit here and talk about roasting mushrooms for the next 10 minutes? Oh my God. Whoa, that's amazing. Tell more about that.

No, don't. Well, you know. But honestly, anyone cooking fast makes me. Do you like king oyster trumpet, like the trumpet ones? The trumpet mushrooms? Yeah, the trumpet ones. I do like those.

There's so many different ways you can work those guys. You know? Oh, they're beefy. There's so many different ways you can work those guys. You know? Oh, they're beefy. I mean, so many different ways you can work those guys. That sounded crazy. Especially about something that looks as phallic as it does. There's so many different ways you can work these guys. No, but you can make them into little like scallops. Switching up the sauce.

You can make them into scallops if you just saute them like that. Or you can chop them. I wish you would've seen Food Queen because you know I want to take her. You can chop them thin and then roast, like bake food queen because you know her, I wanna take her. And then roast, like bake them in their little chips. Yeah. Love that.

I wanna take her to Brooklyn Crab. Oh yeah. I used to work at this restaurant in Red Hook. She can't eat it. Take me. You can't eat it. You can have a drink. I can have the sides. That's the one thing about being a vegan, you really get to know the sides.

Sides, queens. That's right. It's like, can I have the side dish, is it in butter? You know, you gotta ask. You can ask. You know, to know the sides. Sides, queens. That's right. It's like, can I have the side dish, is it in butter? You know, you gotta ask. You can ask, you can ask. I don't know, you know. Well, speaking of- Told you that wasn't gonna go anywhere. Speaking of serving up a dish, here it is.

So are you ready? Oh, yes. So this is the moment, and it feels like you've now thought- Well, I didn't know what I was gonna do, but I feel like now that we've talked about it, I should use my letter. Now is the time. Use the letter.

It's time for everyone to hear the letter. This is Ariana Grande's I Don't Think So Honey. Wait, wait, wait. So this is gonna be a different take in I Don't Think So Honey. This is a historical artifact, it's a written document that really serves as an I Don't Think So Honey. And here we go.

Here we go. This is Ariana Grande's I Don't Think So Honey. Her time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey. Her time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, the Guardians of the Galaxy ride in Disneyland, California. No offense. Said with much love and respect for it. An open letter to Disney World Orlando. Hello, I hope this finds you well.

My name is Ariana Grande. I've been a frequent visitor and a great admirer of your park since I can remember. Some of my fondest adult professional memories have been collaborating on my cover of Alan Menken and David Zippel's tremendous hit Zero to Hero and performing in front of Cinderella's Castle along a magnificent choir that you so graciously provided. Further, some of my oldest and warmest personal memories include spotting hidden Mickeys across the parks, driving up from Boca on the weekends, counting the purple signs, knowing we were nearing your parks, and alas, dot dot dot dot dot dot dot dot riding the an absolute masterpiece that is the

twilight zone tower of terror for the first time once i was finally tall enough perhaps this message comes prematurely but i would be remiss if i did not reach out with a potential matter of grave concern in the wake of the most recent alterations that have befallen your historic paulson park in california yes i'm referring to the calamitous loss makeover of the tower of terror right here i humbly implore you to not follow suit. Please allow the iconic and tremendous Tower of Terror to stand tall permanently in the name of historical preservation, spooky honor,

and good old fashioned fun. I hope that you'll consider this humble plea from a passionate fan and am I way over? No, no, no, no, go, go, go. While asking that my own passionate and devoted fan sign the attached change.org petition just in case. I never posted this, but I really wanted to. And that's one minute.

My best friend Aaron and I worked on this together during the pandemic. You can tell it went through drafts. Yeah, absolutely. The vocab. Yeah, we really just wanted to hear. Calamitous loss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You ended the, so you never sent it? No, I never posted it. Now it's out there. But I was ready. But it felt like there were more important things going on in the world. Yeah. So I didn't. Well, there's always more important things going on.

I don't know. This was really up there. I'm kidding. Here's the thing. I'm joking. But it's not a joke. You know, I once created a Change.org petition for Disney World and it actually got a lot of signatures.

Really? Which was I did not want them to make Donald Trump in the Hall of Presidents. Oh good. I was like I was like this would be ridiculous and they didn't do it and then right No, they did. Oh, they put him there Well, famously they what you know what I'm gonna say So they started to make a Hillary animatronic because everyone was so positive So when you go down to if you ever go to the Hall of Presidents and you see the Donald Trump animatronic because everyone was so positive. So when you go down to, if you ever go to the Hall of Presidents and you see the Donald Trump animatronic, he kind of has Hillary's face. No.

What are you talking about? I'm talking about exactly what I said, Ariana. I'm talking about exactly what I said. Scary times, everyone. But literally he's got the face shape. You can confirm this, right? 100%. So he's got her face. I can't say anymore.

I'll post it. But like, I did a change.org and it did some numbers. And we will post the change.org petition that you're referring to. You know what? I don't want to rock the boat. No, too late. This is a duty. No, it's too late. Too late. It is too late. Consider the boat rocked as fuck.

It is too late. No. It's okay. Goodbye. As we say goodbye. Why was this so good? I literally, I had been waiting to meet you. When we finally met.

I know. And also I felt like it was the SNL after party and there was so much going on. I literally like- You had a glow around you. You had a halo around you coming towards me and it felt like an angel descended from the heavens. I was literally like, this person?

Wait, I literally, cause we have a message and I know you. And we- We get DMs every now and then. Yeah, absolutely. But I was just, I told Bowen, I was like, oh my goodness. He has such a disarmingly warm energy I am

so obsessed with him Well, I mean I felt like I was like I was like meeting Ari and so it was just like I like I give her a hug And I'm like the biggest one to say that you know and I started to like I was like I have this conversation with her later about how meaningful it is to me that you were there for him when he was going through things. And I just like, I've like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I just always felt very connected to you because I could tell that my friend had a friend. And so anyway,

that's how I feel about that. And you just are such a sensation in this movie and in everything you do. And we love you because we knew you. You know we used to sing for good. I need to hear that. Yeah, I was Elphaba. I was Glinda.

I'm Glinda. That's tracks. It does. It really does. We actually had it together there'm Glinda. That's tracks. Tracks. It does. It really does. We actually had it together there for a while. We had a great rendition. There was once a video of us like doing that.

I feel like I have seen it. But I wanna see it in person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? We gotta do it. We'll do it soon. We'll do it someday. But it's so emotional to get through.

Oh, forget about, for good, that must have been crazy shooting that. I was hovering outside my body for two weeks. And also, we shot it on a rain cover day. So it wasn't even supposed to be when we were shooting it. Got you. Which I loved because I love not over rehearsing or knowing fully, you know, when you know the girls,

you can just jump in and do it. But you know, it's fine. And we just were, it was a lot. We had to do, movie two's gonna be a lot. We're not allowed to talk about it much, but I just will say it's gonna feel different. Yeah. Everyone that was like, it should be one movie.

Like you're gonna feel silly. Like it has to be true. I think you'll understand once you see it, that there's just simply too much. There's too much to get through that deserves and needs to be honored and explored and fully represented. We got one shot to make these movies until they remake it and whatever.

But we had to get it right. There's so much story that deserves the time. Thank you. So did you. You are brilliant. Because. I love you both so much. Thank you for having me.

This was so much fun. We end every episode with a song. What did you? You are brilliant. Because... I love you both so much. Thank you for having me. This was so much fun. We end every episode with a song. Switching up positions for you. Kitchen in the bedroom. Now you're not knowing it in front of her.

Don't. I know it. You just picked a strange key. We're done. Bye. Maybe it was a strange key. Didn't I? We're done. Bye. Maybe it was just the key. Lost Cultures is a production by Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and I Heart Radio Podcasts.

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