Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Jester Flop Bestie" (w/ Matt & Bowen)

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

As 2021 begins with a flop, America is not the only institution in upheaval. Immediately in conflict, Matt and Bowen rage at each other about recent culture consumption. Ultimately, Matt has promised to watch 90 Day Fiancée and Bowen will listen to the song "driver's license". So, watch this space. Like they do, Las Culturistas immediately put their differences aside to catch up on culture, and there is a lot to discuss: the attempted insurrection, Trump's ban from Twitter, conclusions on this season of Real Housewives of Potomac, and the beginning of a new season of Drag Race! All discussed! Also, the boys declare their two 2021 missions for the pod: to get Natalie Portman as a guest and to "top Marc Maron". All this, Bowen's review of JAWS, Matt's review of The Sound of Music, Rise of Skywalker and Star Wars at large as enjoyable soap opera space camp (and not more than that, nerds!), and... finally... thoughts on TaylOR SwifT's newest album evermore. What would Fran Lebowitz think of the culture you consume? Scary question, scary times, fun episode! xo Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, I see. Wow. Oh, and look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. oh and look over there wow is that culture yes oh my goodness wow las culturistas

ding dong las culturistas calling happy guru year 20 absolutely 21 happy guru year to you you are singing a little bar of this song that is stuck in your head and you said you how we have to talk about it and i actually do want to have a meta conversation after you tell me about who this Olivia girl is. That's good to know that an interest of mine has already inspired a meta conversation for you. Yes. All right. Well, the song, the hook in the song goes like this. Guess you didn't mean what you said in your song about me. And it's Olivia Rodrigo. And the song is Driver's License. Who is she she was a disney star girl and now she's gonna have a billboard hot 100 number one hit because this song has exploded

i have not heard of this olivia girl maybe i've been living under a damn rock well she's literally a young girl she's 17 she's very young girl like the young gen z-ers know about her and i believe that it is because of their knowledge of her that she sort of exploded. So because she is going to have like a number one hit on the billboard charts, and it was just released. Now, pray tell, what is this meta conversation? Well, I don't mean to bring this tone into our discourse, especially so early on in the year.

I am just a little, I'm once again finding myself to be a little disappointed in my sister. I try to introduce my sister to some culture and she is not enthusiastic. She is not playing Breath of the Wild. She's not playing, she's not getting into any video game culture. I told you why I wasn't playing it. Because my, the space, I didn't have enough space that's no on my on the disc or whatever you ended no ellen that's not that's not the truth you don't call me ellen first of all shut up for you and also you are you are you did bring me to bring this energy

in of course i downloaded breath of the wild and I played it for about three hours. You didn't even get off the damn plateau and you've written off this masterpiece of a game. I tried to get off the plateau and I told you what my next move was that I was going to go online and look at like what to do online. I just didn't get to it.

I'm actually busy. Meanwhile, you know that I'm going to, after this episode ends, I'm going to, you know, as a courtesy to my friend, check out this Olivia girl. And you're going to have to listen to that song for four minutes. And I played breath of the wild for hours.

And also how dare you, how dare you say that I'm not exposing myself to new culture. You know, I watched all 19 hours of the sound of music. I wanted to talk about it today. No, it, it truly it.

Okay. We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. But look, I'm sorry, reader, that we are bringing, Matt and I are on very good terms. I've thought very fondly. I don't understand you. What do you mean?

No, no, you came on the Zoom and you were shaking your eyes at me. You were saying, I'm done with you, you beast. You beast. You are a beast. You are the beast. You're pure evil. How dare you?

It's pure evil. It's pure evil. It is. You are a beast. I are the beast. You're pure evil. How dare you? It's pure evil. It's pure evil. It is. You are a beast. I don't understand what this is because I came on today excited to see you, fuck. I was met with silence

when I texted the thread. I had just finished the ad that you were late on the Zoom and I had to do the ritual ad by myself, bitch. No, no gesture. Don't start with me, honey. No gesture. That's not even what I'm referring to. You're ad by myself, bitch. No, no jester. Don't start with me, honey. No jester.

That's not even what I'm referring to. You're a jester. You're a jester right now. Flop. Flop. You look like Utica Queen jester flop. That's what you look like, flop. I was saying I was going to silence in the group text when I said,

I need some of my friends to start watching 90 Day Fiance with me because I feel like I'm all alone over here. No one responded except Aaron Jackson. You, my sister, refuses to watch 90 Day Fiancé with me when I tell him that it's an excellent reality viewing experience. First of all, one time when I was at your apartment, we did watch 90 Day Fiancé. And also, listen, Bowen Yang, if that's really your name because you don't seem like my sister right now seem like an absolute attacker you look like one of those you know what's attackers i don't know what i don't know what what are you trying to say like

one of those capitol hill attackers, we gotta cut that out. Okay. No. We're not cutting that out. What I'm saying is- My sister accused me of being an insurrectionist. We're recording this after truly the fire on the Reichstag of our country. Oh my God.

I can't believe- You dumb queen. I definitely want to talk about it, but wait. First, I just want to say that you listening to Olivia Rodrigo is going to be a four-minute experience. It's one song. Me getting into 90 Day Fiancé. Do you have any idea how much trash I watch on television? I have so much stuff to watch.

Add one more to the pile, honey. Okay, but I'm saying it's not an attack on you that I'm not watching 90 Day Fiancé. It's also so funny that we're arguing like this and are matching Taylor Swift cardigans. The readers can't see, but we're playing our cardigans. Look, I just wanted to start this year off with some

honesty. That's it. And I feel this way. I feel this way. Sometimes I don't get to share in the cultural experiences that I'm enjoying at the moment because my sister is over there saying things like, you know, you let her do the bunny. And I'm like,

I guess I have, and you already remember the hook and you already remember the, not the lyrics. The important, not the lyrics flop. I don't remember. You didn't mean all the things you said. And you saw,

I just listened to it like three times. Why is it called Driver's License? Because the song is about how she's young. And so the song is about like, I got my driver's license like we always talked about. That's how the song starts. It's really good. Can I just say it's sort of like, it's like Taylor Swift lyrics with like Billie Eilish like delivery in terms of vocals until she opens up

and there's some like, there's some like Ariana Grande capability in there. And then who does she become? She sort of becomes an amalgamation of them all. She becomes Olivia Rodrigo, you see. Well, I guess I'll check her out. I really recommend you start watching season two or three of 90 Day Fiance before the 90 days i'm sure so many readers are in 90 day nation but i find it so wonderful because it's the perfect cleaning show it's the perfect show to like put on in the background while you fold laundry while you you know do a little do little chores around the home cooking cleaning and ironing all of it i really

think my sister would enjoy those. Those sorts of house things. Yes, house things. Now, I just want to, because this is sort of the extent of my knowledge about 90 Day Fiancé. It is an arranged fiancé program. And basically, you meet someone from in the world that wants to get married as well,

and they follow you for 90 days, and then you get married. Is that the idea? And the baseline, I guess, I don't know if you call it that, the original 90 Day Fiancé series is people from foreign countries coming to America on a K-1 visa in order to meet people that they may or may not already be engaged to, Americans, and then they have 90 days to get married. The spinoffs before the 90 days are the Americans going to the foreign countries to meet these people for the first time,

people that they've chatted with on apps, fall in love. It's not the show arranging it. It's that the show finds people who have already been in these conversations. Sometimes it's clear that the couples just want to be on TV. And sometimes, you know, uh,

in some tragic cases, someone will go to a foreign country to meet someone and the person won't show up. Oh, that's a tragedy. Very tragic. Yeah, that's very tragic. There's 90 Day Fiancé the other way, which is Americans going to foreign country to live there, to move to other countries to be with their future spouses. There's just a lot of beautiful storytelling going on. Tragic storytelling to experience. Yeah, it feels that way. And so After the 90 Days is, I guess, just like a sort of docu-series

about what's happened to them post the show. Well, yeah. And sometimes there's one called Happily Ever After, which is that. Or sometimes the people from Before the 90 Days move on to the mainline 90 Day Fiancé series. People like Angela and Michael, people like Darcy, maybe, no, Darcy.

They seem iconic. The fact that you knew their names suggests to me that they're the icons of the show. Well, to me, I've only dealt with like a very small sample of the show so far, but I'm really digging into the back catalog. Basically, I'm just, the readers know and the readers can tell, the readers can very politely tell Matt to give Matt the survivor syllabus equivalent to 90 Day Fiancé. I think you would love it, queen. I'm sure I would. And I want to say, especially given what we've seen in

the last week or so, I wanted to thank you for saying to the readers, please politely tell Matt to do this because what I would hate is if you incited violence against me. If Bowen Yang got on this podcast and said a dog whistle, he will say what she says. He says them. And you say a dog whistle to all the fans and then they come for me. And then it becomes a real problem. Pig's head on my door because I'm not watching 90 Day Fiance. You just called the readers fans, which feels blasphemous to me. No. When have we ever called them fans? Stupid. Roll back the tape.

I never said that one. Yes, you did, girl. Okay. Well, I dare you roll back the tape. I dare you to move. How are you, girl? How literally are you? I am literally, I'm okay. I'm doing well.

I'm kind of spiraling in the way that feels useless, but necessary. I don't know. I don't know. How about you? Are you spiraling because of the macro or the micro? The macro. The micro is great. The micro is excellent.

I love that the micro is great. I love to hear that. The vibe is, I'm truly just at home vibing out to 90 Day Fiance. Do you understand? Okay, yes. I do, I do. And you know I know what it's like to have a reality show sort of save you. Yes. So understand.

Matt, but this is a test of the friendship. Okay, all right. I'm sorry. Can I tell you something? So understand. Matt, but this is a test of the friendship. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm sorry. Can I tell you something? When we come back for another Culture Catch-Up, I will have watched so much of it.

I swear to you. You, because this is the equivalent of you coming to me being like, you have to watch Survivor. Parvati is an icon. I'm telling you. You have to watch 90 Day Fiancé before the 90 days. Darcy and Angela are true icons. And the readers can- can all right I'm really

excited I'm I really am excited and listen this will be a personal feeling if I don't follow if I don't follow up on this so I literally am going to do it and it's not like I'm doing anything else I'm literally doing nothing there you go it's like Real Housewives of Dallas came back and you would think it was fucking American Idol season two i blew up balloons and shit seriously it's like it's getting so sad in here for for rod i mean no but in spirit yes i blew up balloons for rod is that what the people call it is is that rhod i mean they don't that we the community kind of just says dallas you know what i mean not it's not like roni roni roni's the only city that has that. Yeah, pretty much.

Like you're not saying, did you watch Rop? Rop. Did you catch Rop on Sunday? Which by the way, now we know how it ends. Yeah. Oh, you know what? Monique, Miss Monique. It's tough.

That rough there at the end. Well, I don't even, this might be a lot and and this will get back to her i'm sure but like i was like pretty close to unfollowing because it's just her like posting shit where she's like at a gun range with no mask on with like groups of people and i'm and then the chris samuels of it all like them strisand affecting that fucking transphobic comment that he made i'm like i would not have known that he had made that comment if he did not bring it up on the show to defend himself i was like this is this is so unfortunate yeah it's anyway i mean so many elements of that comment were bad there came a point during that

reunion i think it was honestly the transphobic comment or maybe at some some point before that but i fully kind of abandoned monique towards the end of that reunion i was like oh no this is really i don't see her taking accountability for this emotionally in the in in a way that's justifiable at all i was like and it's not that i like candace more at the end of this reunion but i was like she is the only one it's clear can continue with this show because yeah i would say the chris comment really put me over the edge when he said that Bruce Jenner thing. I was like,

okay, there's just, just starting there. Like I was like, there's already a lot wrong with this. It's a twofer. It's a twofer horrid comment. Basically for readers who don't watch.

So Chris Samuel's Monique Samuel's husband was really, was really mad at the other housewives. Basically. Um, he said, I wish I could turn into Bruce Jenner so I could like so so I could like any the insinuation was if only he were a woman he could beat the women's asses that are on the cast and it was like okay you can't go

there probably this feels this feels dark on dark on dark it's so many layers of dark. It's like, okay, so you want to violently assault these women. A B you are dead naming a trans person to see you are saying you are reducing a trans identity to affording you the ability to be violent against. It's, it was, it was truly like such a crazy nexus of darkness that i was like and for that reason i'm out to quote our friend pat reagan and the sharks and for that reason i'm out no yeah i definitely i wouldn't invest in monique samuels at this point no um and i say that with a lot of love for her from from prior to that yes but i just think it says a lot about a person that you could sit by

someone saying that and not make a bigger deal of the fact. Like, when he, when they said to him, like, this comment was unacceptable, he was like, oh, come on.

You know I wouldn't, you know this is how I feel. And then moved right on. I was like, no, anyone, anyone in their right mind living in the now would see themselves saying that and be like

i'm horrified it's unacceptable and then would close their mouth probably about all other topics like but he was really on one it looked very badly on her it reflected badly on her rather and i was just like you know what it's gotten to the point where it's these this group of women is never going to mesh again it's clear they won't film with her and, this group of women is never going to mesh again. It's clear. They won't film with her. And so Monique Samuels leaves Potomac in bad fashion. Yes.

Terrible fashions. Uh, the dresses were bad. The color was bad, but you and I, you know, had to unfortunately sell low on Monique Samuels. And that happens.

And that happens. Um, happens all the time. I mean, you know, you know, whose stock is plummeting? Twitter. Did you hear this?

Oh, I heard. I don't know. It must have been as a result of them banning Trump, but their stock apparently plummeted. That's really too bad. It's really fucking too bad. Should have plummeted four years ago, you ass. And I'm talking to Jack when I say that.

Ooh. It honestly is so good for the world that that happened like when what that honestly felt like the first moment in the in the dissolution of his presidency or rather the election of president-elect biden that it kind of felt like oh wow there's gonna be real repercussions for him and he it was the first time where i believed like maybe ultimately he will get what he deserved because i just never saw twitter doing the right thing or all these social media platforms doing the right thing because they literally never have yeah so now that this is happening i'm kind of like not excited is not the right word but i'm anticipating real fallout for him the only

thing that obviously worries me now as we've seen is the what's truly apparent is that he can go but the people he's emboldened and create and created a new hatred and a new sort of fire in obviously remain and we had honestly one of the scariest things i can remember watching on television i don't know if you were watching live but i was watching msnbc but when this happened at the capitol i was literally watching when they pulled out um the woman who was shot and killed because she was trying to climb in a fucking window at the capitol right in a pretty much successful attempt to disrupt democracy that day i was just like i couldn't fucking believe it i mean it's so has to be the last thing but you're questioning

whether or not that's true well this i i think i know what you mean in terms of like there was um an outcome potentially where like biden wouldn't have prosecuted trump before the insurrection biden wouldn't have prosecuted exactly like maybe they would have just let him go off yeah but now it's like you kind of you kind of have to and it's like in terms of like public opinion it's like you gotta do it most people in this country want him out at this point but i'm just saying like you know you like you you open up like merrick garland uh future uh attorney general like can start to prosecute everyone in the trump administration specifically or at least the ones who like had a hand in in

sort of like inciting all this violence um Yeah. Trump, the kids, Giuliani, all of them. And then, but then, but then the other thing is like, Trumpism has always been a death call or, or at least like being a Trump supporter has always been being in a death call. But now it's like,

if anything, if there's any violence in the name of Trump, it should become like a national security concern. It should be immediately elevated to that level where it's like, okay, like the fbi is gonna like truly cut you off at every single level and you're not you're like all these videos of like these fucking idiots being at airports being like i won the no fly list it's like yes you're

a terrorist because you're a terrorist because you're a domestic terrorist who attempted to disrupt democracy by literally breaking into the Capitol building. And it's just so insane that there are still some people that work in our government, namely Senator Cruz, Senator Hawley, who should both absolutely resign or be kicked the fuck out there, who still want to die on this hill of, no, these people need to be heard. Get the fuck out there who still want to die on this hill of no these people need to be heard get the fuck out of here it is crazy and the thing is what's happening now is insanely enough we're starting to divide now between bad republicans and good republicans and people are like oh look at lindsey graham getting hunted down in the airport. Yeah, he deserves it.

Of course, remember that these two are beating the drum of like there was still election fraud like and stoking the flames of this and truly inciting this at this moment. But don't forget for one second that we should not even be anywhere close to this. And every single member of the GOp that has gone along with this just do not forget it like don't let fucking mitch mcconnell because he's going through with the ceremony of it all at the last minute and deciding now that it's unacceptable don't forget that this all went down the way it went down for the last four years five years at this point it is such an ugly just i think everyone has just been we've been unhealthier as human beings absorbing all of this as a result of it it has really damaged all of us in our souls and like it's just so fucked up to see i'm even like

i'm even like not even forgiving of the fucking markowski's where i'm like no is it's a completely empty gesture for her to be like i might not consider being a republican it's like fuck you you clown my god you vote like you like you confirmed barrett you confirmed kavanaugh jester she's a jester No one, if you have aligned yourself with the Republican Party at any part, at least if you've enabled Trump in any way in the last four years on that level, and on a decision-making level, if you've been in charge, this is the distinction that I don't care on an individual level, someone's behavior or someone's like thought process

necessarily but when it comes to like you being in the fucking senate and you like constantly murkowski is a fucking idiot has always just like she's an idiot collins is an idiot yeah but but they've but they've come out just to like truly in my mind just to seek attention it's there there's there's no other explanation for it. Why is it always the two of them? I mean, for me, it's just like, I think that they love to flagrantly show how independent they are because they know that people where they're from like, quote unquote, independent thinkers. Meanwhile, they're literally not independent thinkers. They'll just do whatever is expedient at the time. They're essentially like playing a game by being where they are they're just looking assessing situations and constantly

doing damage control for themselves and scraping by it so it's just funny that these people consider these moderates independent thinkers when they just have the ability to swing from the center right so now you have murkowski being like you know i might even switch parties he had no fucking kidding who has the majority now don't fall for it it is bullshit and i think this goes even further back than when trumpism began and it was like get on board or get off which they all did i think it goes back to and people need to be accountable for anyone that was responsible and a lot of people have reckoned with this already and do good things quote-unquote good to try and help swing a biden victory this time successfully but if you were checking a box that said mccain palin on it understand that you helped set a

precedent that you could put a fucking idiot on the ticket who didn't know anything just because it was politically expedient and it would cater to i'm sorry but the trump base and don't pretend just now to know who they are because you campaigned around this country with sarah palin and saw the type of person that she whipped up and then you thought that would just go away but no your party was literally set up for someone like trump to come in cult of personality takes hold and then we have what we have which is this emboldening of a passionate voting block and it's fucking crazy and i'm sorry but the gop has been a joke my entire lifetime and your entire lifetime and preceding that because it became a fucking reality show entertainment program game about power and it's fucked up and i know i'm just

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I mean, truly wonderful. Love it. Did you see them at um cluster fest in san francisco that year that they were there but they did i went out and watched them and honestly me seeing them live goes way back because when i was at the dorms at nyu i walked to the best buy in union square where they were they were doing like a talk back and just sat in the back of the talk back and beamed smiled at them i was such a huge fan of them um but like yeah they did a performance at cluster fest and it was really fun it was like in the outdoor stage god i miss going to shows so much i know me too oh it's like crippling bitch honey i think oh my god can i just

say this is something real real real oh my god mushy mushy jester flop but okay first of all for the reader should know that matt and i our brains have devolved over the holidays and yet again each other yet again and all we can say to each other get ready for a lot of the words flop and jester to be flying jester you flop done itop. I hope you don't flop when you're saying this mushy thing. Go for it. Flop. Flop, I won't flop. Because truly, this is when we're talking about the readers, and the readers have been so kind.

The best. We have the best listenership. But a lot of really nice notes being sent to us about how they can't wait to see us live again whenever that may be and i but truly like this is lighting a fire under my something because i'm just like oh yeah like i you know what the the priority number one once it's safe is for you and i did to plan some

some some live thing for absolutely i want to do like i want to do like big shows i really want to block out time and do that. I am like, I'm having like wistful memories of, Oh God, the bell house was the most fun nights. The most fun. They were the most fun nights.

Absolutely. But I'm even saying like, I, I remember it being so stressful at the time, but the touring was actually beautiful. I was talking about this with Nicole Byer. Oh, readers. Fun,

fun, fun. Why won't you date me bowen yang edition coming in like march i want to say but it was really fun but nicole and i were just talking about how like touring what do you mean oh you mean you did you did a why won't you date me i did oh i want you to date me and i was like oh i love it's the best i was like i didn't i didn't realize i was like waiting for this you know and in terms of like not waiting for this like as if i was entitled to it not not that i'm entitled to like being a guest on that show but i was just like oh this is like a fun

like little like um oh yeah i'm on this show that i love to listen to which i do um and it was just exactly that no i was just saying like when i did it it was more of a thing of like oh i get to do this with nicole yeah you know what i mean like it's just so fun to sit with her and be literally around her i think that like she is truly one of the funniest most obvious stars that i know it comes out of her like magic like she's just she can be funny anytime idk yes it's she's a magic person she's just a star she just says she's a star um but anyway we're dying to do some shows again for people and to hit up a few places that's where that's what we're sort of manifesting for 2021 right jester i would say jester it would be such a flop

if we didn't get to do one flop show in front of our fucking family. What's the biggest flop show we've ever done? Honestly, what's the, what's been a flop that we've done? A flop. I know,

I know. I think you and I, Oh, I know when we flopped, we flopped when, when we did a show at the pit as slug, we did a show at the pit underground as slug. It was a headlining show

it was because we literally were guesting on every show in town there was a time when bowen and i were most busy performing sluck which was our if you don't know what sluck is lip sync garbage dance duo that were sluts and uh we were just putting mixes together of like doing slutty songs we wore underwear and crop tops and put disgusting makeup on and like basically flopped on stage and people loved how slutty we were. So we got booked everywhere. And then we decided we would do a two person show, just a headlining show,

just a half hour of slump. And one person came, Amanda Schechtman, our friend. So we did a show for her and i think literally she wasn't even trying to come she was just upstairs for something and we were like can you watch us perform because it'll be literally just me and you because we didn't even have a tech we need to have amanda back on because we owe because that that is ride or die something it's not right or die but it's

like she is she's she's not a fair weather friend i maybe she wasn't even there to see us but the fact that she still sat down as the only person in that audience to watch us says everything also did we i think we put together some new mixes for that we had and slug is not easy to do slug is one of the hardest things any performer could do Beyonce was offered Sluck and she passed she said it's going to be too physically taxing Beyonce passed it was going to be Bowen and Beyonce

and she passed on Sluck well it was that or Dreamgirls she was beautiful amazing oh that's right this was around 2005 2004 it wasn't at all. I know, I know. It's a dumb bit. Never mind. I messed up.

I messed up the bit. That was a flop. I was going to say, I thought you were asking what was a flop Las Culturistas show that we've done. Okay, which one was? Well, I don't fault it. Are you going to drag a city? No.

I was going to disclaim that like this is not us dragging the city it's us dragging like the way that everything aligned which was that we were performing at an all ages venue and it was dry and it was dry and I think I think maybe well I think maybe it is like it was just that we were off one night, maybe. I think, can I be honest? Like, it is like every time you do a live show, it is a little bit like rolling the dice. But honestly, you and I are both live performers, so I'm never worried about us. But the thing is, with that audience in particular, I was doing the show and I literally said in my own head, I was like, oh, we cannot do this without alcohol involved. Like people have to be, I feel that way about like most shows I do. I'm like, let's get people a little drunk, please. A dry all ages show in

Seattle. I didn't, in the winter, it wasn't popping off. Sure. Oh yes. And we flopped. So we, so I, we didn't say this uh up front but it was seattle and this is not us that it's not a dig at the city and in fact so many so many wonderful people came and remember we got and then oh i forgot i forgot who but um there were those two cute boys that we wrote the second we left them we were like we should have talked to them more we should have went out for drinks with them we should have but they they gave us gifts those two boys gave us gifts i know and they also were hot. I wonder if they still listen. Well,

it was a wonderful, it was a good experience. I'm glad we, and then you and I got to walk around the Space Needle and that was cute. Yeah, that Space Needle was cute. I wonder if those boys listen and they want a picture of a me nude. Do they want a picture of me nude? Would you like

one? Do you want a picture of me nude would you like one do you want a picture of me no you have to write that this is a song i'm writing right now do you want a picture of me nude i think it's a hit i took an edible right before the episode oh i should have done that too damn it and it's hitting girl jess i have some lists can i tell you jester i so i so we wouldn't flop today i wrote down some topics of things that have happened or are happening you think we're flopping and so you're consulting the list no no no i literally i don't think we're flopping at all i think this is going splendidly but i really wanted to make sure i talked with you about one thing okay which is why i bring it up flop we pulled ourselves out of our flopdom and you watched jaws and i watched the sound of music and i want to give takes i want to let the readers know how we felt because this is iconic culture that we were receiving initially so we we watched we watched separately and

this was a moment for us yes so this was this was bone was sort of live texting me through uh the sound of music you you were you were live texting me through sound of music i was live texting you through draws well yes i'm but sort of when you're live texting a person that person is sort of live texting you as well you know know what I mean? It's sort of like if we're holding hands, we're both holding hands. You know what I mean? One person isn't holding hands with the other person. I don't have time to get into this. I have literally no time to get into this. But anyway, we were live texting. We shared a live text moment about both films. And I just want to say, how many stars would you give Jaws out of five stars?

Well, I was just really impressed overall with how it still works as like a horror movie. And I think it probably set a bunch of horror rules. Like it set a bunch of like conventions and horror. I give Jaws four out of four and a half stars. Oh my god. And so tell us, like, critic, tell us critic, what is

the half star that it's missing that it just would have been good, but you're taking away this half a star? I wanted to see Jaws herself. I wanted to see Jaws not just come try to eat the boat. I wanted to see Jaws not just come try to eat the boat. I wanted to see Jaws maybe jump

out the water into the sky. I wanted to see full body Jaws because, look, I get it. The technology at the time didn't allow it, but I needed to see Jaws just to get a full understanding of, you know, what am I looking at when I

hear the word jaws and honestly the town should have been called jaws and actually no i have a bone to pick with the readers they think that i really thought that the town was called draws i was being willfully obtuse no flop you were being you you were flopping hard on no gesture and you here you are today jester queen trying to say no you know what all the readers know they can just go back they have the tape this is trumpism this is what you do this is a dog whistle to your to your supporters everyone's being a flop right now including hot head of content hans who's saying you're crazy the movie only works because you don't see jaws no i think that you are a little crazy and i think that bowen is like when like what happened when he said uh the town

is called jaws sort of just like being a little bit controversial on purpose okay so you so then you're so then you're admitting that i wasn't i was i was being obtuse. Okay, fine. I can admit that I thought the comment was obtuse. When he said the town was called Jaws, I thought to myself, okay, this bitch wants to play. This bitch wants to sort of get a little dirty right now. And I gave you that and I've let it go on this long to the point where I can say I knew all along it was obtuse. I really did. Which is how I know you're being bullshit now.

Because let's bring it to what it's really about which is you talking about how the shark should jump in the sky. You really think this bitch? Well, bitch, you're the one who's inciting all of this vitriol at me. Don't use that trigger word with me. You are putting out the dog

whistles. You trigger putting out the dog whistles. You trigger. If you keep triggering me, I'm in fire. I am Monique. You don't have that power. What did you think of Sound of Music? How many stars would you give to Sound of Music? Well, you sort of gave a summation of your review and then gave the stars. So I allow myself the same opportunity for suspense thank you very much okay so i felt that the sound of music really showcased

a star in julie andrews i think that she gave a performance for the ages this performance will go down in history as a defining one of the musical theater genre. She is shining bright, resplendent, and when her heart breaks, so does yours. And she's able in merely short scenes to sort of foster a connection with so many of the children that you feel and are invested in and you you can follow her emotionally, and you feel her conflict, which is she wants to be a nun, right? Doesn't she want to be a nun? And then this other worldly feeling comes in, and that feeling is romantic love. And she feels it with captain von trapp who is a difficult person because he's lost in his life he is lost and he's got a lot of responsibility and he's got a lot of kids to take care of

and so he is a little bit by the book and you know what yes he is engaged to the baroness what did you think of the baron? I thought that she presented a case for best character in a film history. I thought she presented a case. People do love the Baroness. When the Baroness came in and you see her connection with Mr. Max or Ms. Max

as we say, that was a fully realized relationship. And you know what? I feel that the Baroness is not a villain in this. Okay. Because she is just playing her lot in life. Yes. And she is in love and she is heartbroken. But the fact of the matter is the relationship of Captain Von Trap and Maria is a force of nature.

And it changes the course of their lives. And because of that love and teamwork, they're able to make a real family in the von traps and they are the family von traps and as a team and as a unit they are able to escape the nazis the greatest love triumphed over the greatest evil in the film the sound of music and there are temptations along the way because liesl she is feeling she is one of the most important supporting characters in all film has in all film she is feeling this pull too but it is towards rolf who is a nazi and it has to be said plain.

Plain. Rolf is a Nazi. So every time we're doing, you are 16 going on 17. Understand this is the song of a Nazi. Mm-hmm. So it's a Nazi saying, baby, it's time to think.

When a Nazi tells you, baby, it's time to think, you better run the other way. You better get out. And log off Parler. Oh, wait, it's offline because Amazon stopped hosting it. Okay? So, yes, I did say several times while watching this,

this feels very prescient now. I did say that several times. I remarked that. You texted. But you know what? Ultimately, not only is this dynamic story incredible, and yes, good does triumph, but the music was incredible. Speak on it.

The music was incredible. It was. We never stopped crying at that song. No. I give the film five stars. Out of? The sound of out of five oh i give the film five stars sound of music was an incredible musical feat of filmmaking i'm so happy i watched it the way my sister was the opposite of a jester opposite of a, a soaring king in that review of The Sound of Music. And that you can't love yourself enough to give Jaws five stars.

That's right. During a tender moment, I will attack. Honey, you have a personal problem. The scale, I gave it four out of four and a half stars. So the full, I don't care to do the math right now, but it's four i was i gave it four out of four and a half stars so the full i don't i i don't care to do the math right now but it's almost five stars it's more than i'm giving it i'm giving it more than four and a half star no no you said the flaw was that the shark didn't fly in the sky that's what you said joss had that ability joss did not. I assure you, she get it right. Because that was a girl boss. No. If I've ever seen one.

Jaws was a girl boss if I've ever seen one. And that's a rule of culture number 92. Jaws was a girl boss if I've ever seen one. Can you talk about the way that The Sound of Music is a breezy three hours? I didn't think about the length. Bitch, I'm out here. You're in. You're keyed in.

I'm constantly thinking about the length of movies. Oh, me too. What did I watch recently? Oh, Soul. Girl, why? the length of movies oh me too when i i mean i what did i watch oh soul girl why it it wasn't even honestly that long but halfway through i was like why am i only here it was just movies are so long this movie was such a classic i just i was in it and also i was prepared and happy for the event of the film yes yes, because it was an event for you. You

found it on your little TV app and said, we're doing this. I saw it there. I saw it standing there and I said, this is the moment. And I'm so happy that you followed up that moment with the undertaking that is watching Jaws, also a long

film. Well, Jaws, also a long film. Well, Jaws. I would say if there's a half star to be knocked off, it is the very true fact that it feels lengthy. Well, it was lengthy, and yet it moved at an incredible clip. And you had told me about the Quint monologue, Robert Shaw. Oh, wasn't that amazing?

The acting. That was truly amazing acting. Truly amazing acting. Richard Dreyfuss giving you hot scientist. You were attracted. Yes, very deeply. I love someone with knowledge.

And so I guess that goes for Quinn too. Quinn had some knowledge. The person who didn't really have knowledge was the Roy Scheider character. I was like, you know, but he was the hot one. I felt he was hot, but he didn't know anything.

He knew how to, he knew how to like work the boat kind of, but other than that, he was, he was more just having a good spirit. I was just kind of shocked at how filmic Jaws was. I'm like, they don't make movies. They don't make big, big budget movies like this anymore.

No, that was the 70s. That was the 70s. And you had like, you know, Roy Scheider doing like the making the faces with the sun. I'm like, oh, you don't get like, that would never happen in a big budget movie nowadays. Yeah. It's almost like how the original Star Wars

kind of seem way more authentic than the ones that came out right like the episode one two and three the ones with natalie um because the special effects took it so to cartoon world that there was that disparity between the live action and the CGI just kind of, yes, yes. People lost. It lost something, something got, um, and then watching the old ones, you're kind of just like,

oh yeah, like this is a real, I'm, I'm more, um, invested in the stakes for them. Cause it feels like that thing is a part of their world. You know what I mean?

Like tractor, you know what I mean? Like might crush them, the trash compactor or whatever. So now it's like so much. Ooh time it was anyway although i did text you that over christmas i did watch episode nine for the first time and i thoroughly enjoyed it the newer ones i actually think are better because everything about them is so heightened that's why whenever anyone even compares like the daisy ridley ones to the Mark Hamill ones, I'm like,

they're completely different. Like it's never going to live up to the nostalgia and love you're going to have for something that was made during that time with a child. When movies were made differently. And when you had a child's eyes, like except these movies for what they are, which are for children, like fantasy, whatever's, they're never going to be like smarter than anything else they just have to entertain and make choices

and it seems like people get mad at the new ones because they make choices instead of repeating and they do make choices and i truly loved like the the like wildness in like Adam Driver spoiler alert making out with Daisy Ridley at the end before he oh like I'm just like I'm like this is so funny and crazy and like and what other and and what other movie would this happen in if not Star Wars right now and literally it was drag it was yes sure it was it was like that's what i kept saying it was camp and that's why i liked it because carrie russell and that outfit to me was camp it is camp you never see carrie russell's face and um it's like the movie is crazy it's fully crazy and babu frick babu frick get out icon icon one of the most stunning sexually stunning

men in the world yes but um babu frick babu frick but this is this is this everyone's issue with um episode eight which is not like i don't think it's the greatest star wars movie it deserves some sort of flowers for the way that it made choices with fucking Laura Dern saying pew pew and then like kamikaze-ing into Star Destroyer like come on yeah and you know what you have you have to think of it as a choice because I mean it she did say pew pew she said

pew pew and they kept it and they kept it and they kept it and it's like the Starbucks cup yes yeah I believe it was there on purpose okay that I'll always say that pew it was there on purpose. Okay? I'll always say that. Pew Pew was there on purpose and so is that Starbucks cup. I think they wanted the conversation.

I think that they're entertainment industry people first and foremost. And did they succeed? Absolutely. And they had us talking, girl. But yes, I genuinely loved pretty much everything about the last one and i liked the last jedi because what i loved about the last yes the last jedi was when the reveal was

she's when she realized that she was no one she was not actually connected to the mythology and i loved that because it made a choice like her, like that they weren't going to give us this fan service. But then it was funny because like when, when that, when the next movie came out, I was gagging for the fan service. I'm like, yes,

she's the granddaughter of Palpatine. Actually. It's like, to think that that man had children. Anyway, it's at that point. I was just like, yes, queen. And when, when they were's at that point. I was just like, yes,

queen. And when, when they were looking at each other and I was like, they better kiss. That is how this pays off. And then they did. And then he died. Incredible.

We respect the drama of that. It was soap opera level. And that's because that's what they are. That's what they are. And I have to commend the fight sequences. I mean, when they trade off the lightsaber, or just any time they would go into different sets. I was just like, this must have been a nightmare to shoot.

And they pulled it off. So I was just genuinely impressed. I was also stoned. And I was watching this and I was like, wow, I'm having a great time. You know my experience of seeing it? I was also stoned and I was watching this and I was like, wow, I'm having a great time. You know that, you know, my experience of seeing it,

me and Matt Whitaker went to a 40 X theater. I'm telling you the seats move. It is a theme park ride. You know, I was gagging. You were a guy. I kid you not. Oh,

you sit down. Matt is like a little bit sensitive. Like motion sickness is not, not difficult for him to get i guess so he was like i don't know and i was like please let's try so the very first thing that happens and it's insane to think about this now in the age of corona is they blast you with water from the seat in front of you like just water blasts in your face from this strange chair. And just to show off what they can do in the beginning and like the surround sound is going and the chair is moving

and you're like, oh my God. And then the movie starts and it's literally like someone walks into frame and the chair goes, like you turn to face them. It's like, you're really moving like a simulator. We've talked about this because I had the same experience with Julio Torres when we saw Maleficent mistress of evil, but did you,

did you and I also do this? I think we did this in Vancouver when we watched Alita battle angel. Oh my God. I, well, we only made it through half of that. We, we,

we're sorry to say we walked out of that movie um but it wasn't because the movie was bad we found that i got the job at the other two and then we went to go have drinks yes um we were just like fuck this movie let's go have drinks but i think weren't those seats weren't there's also like 40x equivalent seats for like they were rumbling but they weren't i'm telling you i would remember if it was what this was because it was like literally like by the time there was battles happening at the end it was over it was like and i will say matt whitaker sweet angel stayed in the chair the whole time angel the best um but it was definitely a way to experience that movie. Cause like, it's just so funny because even emotional beats get like the, the jerkiness that huge battles get.

But anyways, I'm so happy that we enriched ourselves with that culture in this way. You seeing more star Wars girl, I might have to get on this Mandalorian. I am opening. I am truly. i'm i'm the king i'm saying we hans asked did you both see tenant we did not see tenant no girl um i don't think why you asked that i need to be in the right mood maybe maybe i'll take an edible and watch tenant sometime soon i watched jumanji last night and got my fucking life. The original Jumanji?

Original. The OG. And let's just say this. Kirsten Dunst gives a performance. We've talked about this in the grocery store with the taser. With the scanner. She is... Oh, price check. But her iconic moments are like...

In the beginning of the movie, their parents have died. They just died. They died in a car crash. But her character's thing is every new person she meets, she has a monologue about the insane way they died. She makes them up. She crushes every single one of them. Also, the way that she experiences fear and suspense is she is an innate talent. She was such a good child actress.

She's got a point. She's an icon. She's a legend. She's a legend. And she is the moment. And she is the moment. She's an icon. She's a legend. She's a legend. And she is the moment. And she is the moment. Now, come on now. Come on now.

Another exclusive way Bowen and I have been communicating recently is in that Wendy Williams quote. And then it opened up the gates to another video that we shared with each other where it was a compilation video of Wendy Williams is quote most controversial moment. And it's her truly saying wild things. The worst things in the world. Yeah. Just why don't you go watch it? You guys go watch it,

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to give thoughts on Evermore. We have literally not talked about it since it's been out. And I think that we're actually working at a little bit of a deficit here because I'm going to ask you this question and I'm going to respect you enough to think you're going to give an honest answer. Have you listened to it really? I've only given it three full listens. Wow. Can I tell you?

I've only gotten through it like four or five times. I don't know what it is. Maybe I'm still living in folklore land, but what I ended up doing was I made like a, I listened to it a few times and I was like, these are the songs that are grabbing me. And I put those in with my favorite songs from folklore. And I made a playlist called folk more.

And I like my version of it. So I like some of the songs a lot. Like I really like Willow. Love Willow. I have, I've been listening to Willow a lot. Dancing Witch like willow love willow i have i've been listening to willow a lot dancing witch remix elvira nobody no crime i know i like and you don't i don't i don't think it works i don't think i see they were going for like a goodbye roll with heim and it just it didn't it didn't click just, I think anytime you listen to a Taylor Swift album,

it isn't, it's, it's emotional listening. And what I mean by that, it's like in terms of like, you know, the, the way that emotional is used,

the word emotional is used in terms of like, Oh, it's emotional marketing. It's emotional tech. It's emotional. This it's like, you know, you like the,

the idea that you feel something as you listen to a record is part of Taylor's whole ethos. And the fact that folklore coming out was huge, I think. We're both literally in the cardigans. We love it. We're wearing the cardigans. I feel like Evermore being announced and dropped within 24 hours when she announced it, I was just kind of like,

maybe it was the holidays and it was just busy. And I just, I didn't have the room in my emotional real estate to be like, I'm going to listen to the Taylor Swift album. And, but maybe like, honestly, it was,

it was a couple of people with being like, I hope it's not folklore B-sides. And then it kind of just saying that alone, like colored my expectations going in and being like, this is just going to be folklore besides, which I don't think it is. Ultimately it is not folklore besides it. It has its own identity.

Yeah. I just, I just, nothing will shock me in the same way that folklore did. Um, right. It was such a turn into something different. And I do think as a body of work,

folklore is stronger now having listened to it more. Um there's some really good songs here like oh there's champagne problems i love champagne problems and i had to listen to it a few times to really understand what it was but now that i do i just like ah i love that song so much just she's this is what I love about her. She's able to tell a specific story. I just think that's something I've loved about these two albums is her sort of return to real storytelling. And even with No Body, No Crime,

the reason I like it is because it's actually really specific and it feels inventive but also familiar, which is another thing that she's really good at. I love Gold Rush. I had to listen to it a few times to understand the trend, to like understand and like the transition from the verse into the chorus, because it is stark.

But once I got into it, that song is a vibe. And my other favorite is Tolerate It, because again, she got really specific with the lyrics yeah that's her track five and that's a track five baby ivy marjorie cowboy like me um i like dorothea i mean it's a great album it's a great i just i just it's tough for me to like think about it in a vacuum or just separately from folklore so on the heels yeah yeah yeah and i will say i'm still like bumping the songs from folklore in ways that i didn't used to like now every song is that it's familiar for me like i'm it's like i'm raging every time like

at one the last great american dynasty plays around me there's nothing else happening in the world i fucking love that song and she ultimately did add to her insane catalog with these oh yeah albums they're so good i mean oh you need to watch this friendly but what series by the way oh my god i've been meaning to and like uh i did watch some of it but um it looks incredible it's great. I'm sure a lot of readers have watched it, and especially it's coming perfectly 10 years after

Public Speaking, which was the Scorsese doc from HBO. I was telling you, it's taking me back to college days when I thought I was the coolest fucking person in the world for reading Metropolitan Life and being like i love fran lebowitz she's an epigramist whatever but she she has this thing that has

blown my she says this thing in the new series on netflix that's blown my mind which is that she's like society loves like no one is more loved in society than musicians and then scorsese's like yeah sure like and then she's like and the reason why is because like music is something that like you listen to the music that you like, you listen to, and you're immediately happier. At least like, at least for like specific, if you're going for that experience, like that's what, if you're looking to get that out of the music you want to listen to,

that's what you get. She's like, I grew up with Motown. Anytime a Motown song comes on, I'm immediately happier. do i think it's the best music ever written compared to like mozart no but in terms of like the chemical change that happens in my brain when i listen to a motown song music is like drugs that aren't bad for you she's like it's the only thing in the world that is that makes you immediately happier and is not bad for you and i'm like oh my god she's right and that's why that's why stan culture is a thing we talk about like it's crazy that like Stans are like this

passionate about they're like they're idols but it's like no this is why it's because like you put on a song and it like changes your mood I know I know we're saying something very I'm saying something very basic but it's like that is the whole like it's kind of changed my approach and

and how I listen to music now because now i'm just like i mean yeah i want to like feel good let me put on levitating by dua lipa you know it's like that's like the thing anyway you gotta watch it no no i'm i also think it's funny that if stan culture feels new because literally there has always been stan culture you know what i mean going back to the beatles you know what i mean when there was a mania about people as as long as people were able to know about music there was an opportunity to be fanatical about it and go to extremes and act uh abnormal because you love the music so much like and that's the way like girls passing out

because they see the beatles because they got so hyperventilating to that state and that's the way like girls passing out because they see the beatles because they got so hyperventilating to that state um that's like the equivalent of someone like popping off on twitter nowadays like that's how that energy is being um expelled so it's just interesting that like we've found a way as a society to like target that energy at each other. It's so crazy that like even fandom is weaponized in culture. Yes. Yes. I mean, she has,

you have to, you'll, I mean, this is the second episode where she just talks about culture and it's like, it's so funny. Like someone in the audience, like it cuts to a lot of like talk backs that she's done or speaking engagements that she's done.

And someone's like, Fran, how do you develop a sense of humor? And she was like, the same way one develops height. Like, she's just so like, she's's like, Fran, how do you develop a sense of humor? And she was like, the same way one develops height. Like, she's just so, like, she's just, like, I don't know. She just, the delivery is always impeccable.

That's the thing that people, she is a singular person, yeah. Well, it's like, Josh Sharpe and I were talking about it. It's like, she's a comedian. And, like, she, like, she delivers. Performer, for sure.

She zings it in and it's like, oh, yeah. She knows how to make something pop and hit the ear right. Yeah. Her character is amazing. And also, she is really, I mean, I love, there's a story she said recently about, or not a story, just something she was saying recently about how, you know, with the AIDS crisis. And so she says, like, you you know it wasn't the people that were like the i i hate that it doesn't feel right coming out of my mouth but she was like uncool people did not die of aids is basically what she was saying and that because that's the

case all the good art all the interesting stuff was gone and it was filled in the culture with people that were second rate which is why she says culture is second rate now she says that if her friends that she knew back in the 80s were alive today that she'd be like guess who's a star now right they would laugh for hours at who's a star and who's popular because like the best of the best were lost to that AIDS epidemic. It is like, I think she has gotten flack in the past for, for that specific like take,

but I, because it's an insane take, but also it is. There's a kernel of something there. My favorite Fran thing ever is when she goes, um, she's like the worst thing that happened in New York city. She's like,

you know, like the city was bankrupt in the seventies, uh, ands uh and in the 80s and like three people got together in a room and said let's let's fix that by having people come by like building these tourist attractions and she's like that's the worst thing that's ever happened to the city because she goes there's she goes there's no way that you have a bunch of hillbillies. These are her words. She goes, there's no way that a bunch of hillbillies descending on a city does not impact the city itself. There's no way.

And so she'll be like, I'm walking down the street. I'll be walking down the street and I'll hear tourists say things like, oh yeah, that restaurant where the waiter's saying, I hated that. And she's like, you hated that? Then tell us. If you hated that, then tell us because we built that for you. So if you hate that, then we can take that down and replace it with something that we need. Like, she's like, you know what Times Square needs?

A butcher shop. She's like, Times Square doesn't need like a museum like Ripley's, believe it or not. It needs like a place to send the mail. She's like, it's adversely affected New York City in the way that like it has become because New York didn't used to be a tourist attraction in the past, you know? Wait, what is that face?

What are you doing? Yeah, I know. I'm literally just, I'm writhing thinking about when I used to work at the ride and we would go through Times Square and the script was like, this was all changed by Rudyy giuliani like like it just gave him so much credit over having that like time squareifying of new york and i'm just

thinking about rudy giuliani and i'm seething i'm like sitting here thinking wow this is the worst person i think if i could target one worst person in my lifetime, it might be him. Just like, just in terms of public figures that I've despised for the longest, he is up there because I don't love. You, you have to direct your ire at people who have decision-making power. That,

that is the thing. It's like, I don't really give a shit at this point whether or not um i i don't get angry at some like some lay person who like says or does something stupid unless exactly unless they're really harmful yeah yeah anyway um what else is on your list flop are we flopping oh no we're actually we're actually slaying i mean we should probably just say um drag race is back and it is good i am grateful that it's back i i have been on a journey with drag race from like i and i think i speak for a lot of people who are

like it's the glut of it is too much we've watched too much drag race canada holland season 12 all-stars 5 like it's too much make it go away for as long as possible and then truly only like four months passed and all of a sudden season 13 is back on and i'm like oh my god thank god thank god but literally i will say this i think this for me i'll just be honest when season 11 happened and I didn't think it was a good season I kind of said to myself like okay like a bad season of it is possible because it has been on for a long time and that's just something that happens to shows that have been on for a long time like they lose an edge but I will say this I feel like the show has come back

and it's really found a way to like give it an edge i love the premiere and shout out to dave mazzoni who was involved in the creative for this season shout out um and i loved the way that like there were six full lip syncs because that's really what you want to see is you want to see them perform i know this wasn't popular with the fandom but for me i was living that we were getting so many performances and it felt like isolated we got to know everyone that's going to be on the show which is what i loved and you see you see them do in some essential way in that like i mean this is not for me to say as someone who doesn't perform drag but it's like some essence of drag i I take it back. I was going to say some essence of drag is like, it's just lip syncing.

Like that is like, it's part of the, it's like, it's like, it's baked into like the, in, you know, the drag queen direction of it.

It's, it's baked into the female impersonation aspect of drag where it's like you lip sync. And so I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the premiere a lot. I love these queens. I think there's some really good ones. Even the quote unquote filler queens. I'm like, Oh, I like it. I enjoyed the premiere a lot. I love these Queens. I think there's some really good ones. Um,

even the quote unquote filler Queens. I'm like, Oh, I like them. Like, I love that. They, I mean,

I love that they kept Elliot. I'm like, Oh great. And like, I really grew to Elliot really grew on me. Actually. Like when they did the winners episode, the second episode,

Elliot during that episode really grew on me. Do I think Elliot has fucking nailed it every single time? No, I think some of the looks are, I don't get are, they're just maybe a little bit like broad. Um, but Rue seems to really like Elliot style.

I didn't mind her entrance look where it was just like late eighties or it was just like a save. It was like saved by the bell. It was, I was cute. Yeah. It was like saved by the bell. Like she could go

into aerobics at any minute uh type of aesthetic um and for me i was just like that's your entrance look like i i like a high impact entrance look because for me it's like you're a drag queen you're on drag race do it you know what i mean like go for it show show off like it's your moment and she comes in wearing that it's like okay but i thought that who had a really good high impact look was candy muse i just loved that it was very new york it was very candy muse very i because she is formerly house of she was like a big new york deal our brooklyn deal as well and um she was just like was so herself and i loved the boom box and i just loved the way she got to press it on and off with the song i don't know i loved it i i really like her personality i think it's time i think it might be time and that time when we sort of say it's time refers to i don't think so honey which is

I guess what would you say it's a segment where we each take one minute to rail against something in culture yeah well you'll see I would say you'll see it's very self explanatory

once it happens I do I do have something. This is Matt Rodgers' I Don't Think So, Honey, and his time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey felt cute, will delete later, or might delete later. Bitch, I hate this. If it's cute, why would you delete it?

We follow you. We would assume to see cute slash funny slash attractive slash appealing things. Why would you delete it if it's cute? If you're embarrassed to be indulgent on the platform, I got news for you, bitch. You have the wrong platform. I don't think so, honey. These people that are making me follow a dramatic narrative in my life that i did not ask for i did not turn you on darling to follow the narrative of the will they won't they between you and the

status deletion i don't need another bullshit nothing narrative to follow i watched too many seasons and series of housewives for that felt cuteelt cute, might delete later? No, bitch. Be brave. Be bold. Keep up the thing you posted for attention the first time. I don't think so, honey. This. And that's one minute.

I. You do this. I do this. And I can't disagree with you. Does it annoy you? I feel like it's just a tug of war. It's, it's. No, you know what?

Yes, it does. I was going was gonna back off but it annoys just think of another caption it's so filler it's filler queen status it's flop it's flop i mean for me it's just that i feel self-conscious and i'm like no i'll take this off girl no proudly put up everything you want to put up i'm i'm telling you if you if you posted it if you hit I'm telling you, if you posted it, if you hit post on it, you wanted people to see it. So stand by your decision. You're right. I'm a flop.

Stand by your decision. I'm a jester. I'm a jester. Look, I'm not going to lie to you. In your life, you've done jester things. You've done flop things. Remember that Maison Kitsune sweatshirt that you bought when we could not afford that?

I thought that was a flop. I did not like that sweatshirt. Can I tell you? I couldn't believe. I was kind of purging some stuff from my closet and that flop sweatshirt's been hanging in my closet on a felt hanger for years. I have not worn it once. It does not fit on me anymore because it's just shrunk. I've not washed it properly. Tossed it. Oh my God. Wow. It does not fit on me anymore because it's just shrunk. I've not washed it properly. Tossed it. Oh my God. Wow. It's not even in the Hall of Fame. I would, I honestly, I almost wish you had kept it. I want it.

No, no, no, no, no. It's not. I mean, I'm sure like some place will sell it somewhere. I want to hang that up in a glass case in my house one day. I'm not kidding. For the Hall of Fame? Yeah, I'd want, I just, I just... No, not for the Hall of Fame. Forget that.

Forget these sort of, you know, fake bits. I want that piece for my house. Forget bits, okay? Forget jokes, games, anything we could say insincere. No, I want that piece for my house. You'll get it. You'll be able to find it somewhere it's a pretty pretty wildly produced garment i think that no it's not the one that you bought

you don't understand it doesn't matter you don't understand sentimentality you don't you're very cold that's why you came on here sort of shaking your eyes at me despite me despite me working so hard to sing. No, you can't start crying. I worked really hard on the ads. Okay. Good job. On the ritual ad. Anyway, okay. Do you have something this week? I do.

It's a little controversial, maybe. Oh my god. You are a lightning rod, bitch. Name another legend. i am so fucking proud to be your best friend it's thank you anyway thank you bestie uh thank you bestie non-flop oh my god the title of app is jester flop bestie jester flop bestie title of absolute app jester flop bestie oh no that's gonna be merch i have ideas for merch here's merch we need to do capitalist jester flop bestie yes avid reader yes oh he's flipping pages things okay girl the list of things. Okay. Hey, girl. The way I've been bookkeeping lately,

I wrote a list of my resolutions. Queen. Okay, bullet journal down. Okay. Here we go. Non-flop writer. Jester flop, Beth. This is Bowen Yanks.

I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Meryl Streep saying she doesn't like any action movie. Bitch. Shut up, bitch. starts now i don't think so honey meryl streep saying she doesn't like any action movie bitch have you seen spy directed by paul feig starring melissa mccarthy jason statham and rose burn that is i mean they're it's so dumb to me that anyone especially meryl streep of all people to make a blanket statement about a genre of culture of art and say, there's nothing I like about it.

There's something you sound like a MySpace team. It's like a 2003 saying everything except rap and country. There's one action movie that you like at least Meryl, Meryl Streep, Mary Ellen, whatever her real name is. Stage name. Mary Louise.

Right. Flop. Oh, they couldn't think of a character, a name for your character on big little lies season two. So they named you Mary Louise. You're a flop Meryl. I'm so ashamed that you wouldn't like any action movie,

especially the best action movie of all time, which is spy starring Melissa McCarthy. And that's one minute. See, I don't know if I can stand by calling it the best action movie of all time, but I certainly thought it was a fun action comedy. Well, Bowen Yankin and that's really what matters at the end of the

day, right? You and I both called Meryl Streep bitch on this episode and we have to live with that. No, but the thing is that's the thing is my opinion on Meryl is she is the deity and I believe she deserves a nomination for the prom. And so when we say bitch, she knows,

or she should know or can know from my mouth that it is in adoration constantly. I just, you know, it's hard to see. It's hard to see your heroes let you down. And I think Meryl let me down when she said she was on Colbert, and Colbert, you know, asked her,

what's your favorite sandwich? What's your favorite this? And then he got to what's your favorite action movie. She made a face and was like, there aren't any. And I'm like, Meryl, but you know,

that's not true. Yeah. It was, um, it was like you saying the town was called jaws. You know what I mean? She was sort of, no,

that's exactly what it was. It's literally exactly what it was. You're being a jester and a flop and not a bestie, honey. You're not being a bestie to me. The fact of the matter is, and let me absolutely tell you this to your face, is if I didn't tell you that, I wouldn't be being your bestie.

Okay? It's important to have someone in this life, the one I'm pointing to right now to be held accountable. The way my, my sister, my bestie holds me accountable and I receive it. I love you. I love my sister.

I love you dearly. I think we look stunning in these cardigans. I'm actually looking at it and it is a look. Yes, you do. I just love the elbows. I love the stars on the elbow patches. See, that's the one thing I would lose. The one thing I would lose is the just love the elbows. I love the stars on the elbow patches.

See, that's the one thing I would lose. The one thing I would lose is the stars on the elbows. No, this is what makes it special, sweetie. No, honey. I think that what makes it special, darling dear, are these gorgeous lines on the... What did you call this? The collars. Oh, on the collar.

No, I just love this. Take it up with Tayla if you don't like the stars, because guess what? She designed this herself. Bestie. just love this. Take it up with Tayla if you don't like the stars, because guess what? She designed this herself. Bestie. I respect her. I respect her artistic choice. I just, that's what I would lose.

I'm not going to cut them off, darling dear. You sometimes flop the way you think about me. You sometimes flop the way, semicolon, the way you think about me. Oh my God. I think this was a great start to the year. I think we've set some intentions. flop the way semicolon the way you think about me oh my god I think this was a great start to the year I think we've set some intentions set some goals I wanted to ask you

one thing about your resolutions have you done them quickly yes I've told you in private where my resolutions are right I've done them I've stuck to them and they remain private yes privately I can tell you I've been slaying my resolutions them i've stuck i've stuck to them and they remain private they remain private yes what did i tell

you privately privately i can tell you i've been slaying my resolution oh i'm so proud of you i'm so proud of my sister and this is between us this is between us and the readers there's nothing there's nothing scandalous that we should just say that there's nothing illicit about the resolutions we're just like we don't want to like some things in life have to be sacred okay this is a sacred moment sacred moment and this is a sacred moment of the podcast and because we are ending on a sacred moment we're going to end on a sacred song there can be miracles when you believe when you believe. When you believe. The hope is real. It's hard to kill.

Who knows what miracle. Imagine if we had like just done the harmony like spontaneously. That's why we're not Whitney and Mariah. I guess we just flopped bye I'm Julian Edelman I'm Rob Gronkowski and we are super excited to tell you about

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