Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Jesus Was Always Involved, Let’s Get That Straight” (w/ Bridger Winegar)

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

This episode is the perfect illusion! And the guest is stunning! He is a writer of moving television content such as Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Jimmy Kimmel Live, Single Parents, Black Monday, Corpora...te, and more! Also his twitter is famously known (just ask Bowen!) And on top of all this he hosts the podcast I Said No Gifts! Yes, it's true! The guest is Bridger Winegar! Does he possibly do TWO IDTSH's? We can't tell you. You must listen. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:13 Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Love the variation on the sort of the cadence, the melody. You know, gotta keep it fresh. Talking is music. Talking is music. That's a rule of culture number 46. Talking is music.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Who has the most musical speaking voice you've ever heard? I would say, I reject the premise of that question because this is what I'm saying. Everyone is a singer when they're talking. I would say, I reject the premise of that question, because this is what I'm saying. Everyone is a singer when they're talking. I believe that everyone can learn to sing. I think that's so beautiful, you know? You might need a higher expensive singing coach, but, you know, if you work hard enough at your job, you could save that and do it as an extracurricular. Sure, sure.
Starting point is 00:03:03 You know, I think singing is just bravery, is just going for it. And, I mean, I say this as someone who knows nothing about singing, but I feel like- That's not true at all. If you just are delusional enough to think that you can do it, you can do it. I literally agree. And I just want to backtrack and say that Bowen is one of the most resonant countertenors of our time. Adam Lambert was found dead. Freddie Mercury was found dead. Sorry, but it was literally true at one point.
Starting point is 00:03:28 The two front people of Queen, you're going to compare me to them? I'm coming for the countertenors today. I'm declaring them dead in the presence of Bowen Yang, one of the most resonant, listen to my words, most resonant countertenors of our time. Put it on a t-shirt and wear it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Thank you so much. Meanwhile, Matt Rogers can't hold a damn tune. I don't like that. That was disrespectful. I'm kidding. Listen to my words. Most resonant countertenors of our time put it on a T-shirt and wear it. Meanwhile, Matt Rogers can't hold a damn tune. I don't like that. That was disrespectful. I'm kidding. He's one of the best singers of all time. One of the best vocalists. I'm off marijuana for the next month and a half. You're really going to commit that hard to this?
Starting point is 00:03:58 I applaud you, sis. Look, Matt Rogers is touring with his famous yearly show, Have You Heard of Christmas? Please check it out. I cannot recommend you see this. It's sold out. Please. You can't come.
Starting point is 00:04:13 As they say every Tuesday, and especially in voter-suppressed states, stay in line. Stay in line. It's actually rule of culture number 50. Stay in line. Okay? I will say that this episode is coming out on Wednesday. And so tonight it is November 10th. And you can come see me and Greta Teitelman for the New York Comedy Festival at the Bell House.
Starting point is 00:04:33 We have a show at 7.30 and also at 10 p.m. Stay in line. Stay in line. How are you doing? I haven't asked you a question, that question, as a way of telling, as a way of gracelessly segwaying into how I'm doing, which is not well. I'm working with a stye. I have a stye coming in. You don't. Oh no. I got, I put rice in a sock. I'm putting it in the microwave for 20 seconds. I'm putting,
Starting point is 00:04:54 I'm doing a hot sort of compress kind of thing. I hope that works. I'm just going to tell you, I threw up last night. What's going on? So I went to Palm Springs Pride and sort of did that. Is Palm Springs Pride in November? Yeah, it is, famously. They do Pride a couple, just a couple months later than everyone else. A few, yeah, several.
Starting point is 00:05:13 What was it? What was the experience like? Really good until it was really bad. I was having a really good time. You threw up. And then I sort of, as you say, went too hard and threw up like I was 17. Damn. Because of partying too much but i did
Starting point is 00:05:25 sort of start a new era the beaded necklace era i'm in my necklace era now i love it i think this is a long time coming you actually have avoided jewelry you are very accessory phobic and that's bigoted of you yeah well i don't like them and but now you do uh i'm i'm a bigot against them until now and it's sort of it takes different people different paces you know what i mean i'm right now in my necklace this is actually tony gomez's necklace that i stole he's not gonna like that i'm about how much i'm gonna wear it over the next week i told him i would keep it safe but i left the party we were at last night early to go throw up got it so i ended up sort of being like can i wear that he He was like, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And now I still have it on and I will continue to wear it until I give it back to him, which I will. That's nice. And I like that you are sort of making it time bound and saying only a week. Right. Holding myself accountable. Yeah. Speaking of singing, just to sort of make this one of the most chaotic intros to any podcast ever to sort of return to the front of it. Could you imagine Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande in the Wicked movie? Oh my god, we haven't talked about this. We haven't spoken about it until now, and no gays have until now. No gays have until now. I mean, what's remarkable is everyone's happy. That's what's remarkable about it.
Starting point is 00:06:38 When does this ever happen anymore, that people are like, yes, they got it right? I mean, casting has certainly been controversial this year and on on many different projects on many different projects but not the wicked movie not cynthia arevo and ariana grande couldn't and also the stakes couldn't be higher do you know what i'm saying no because as we famously know it's one of the most famous rules of culture playing alphabet is war this woman is not a. But we've made her the general. She has been named general of the battle
Starting point is 00:07:08 of Wicked. And she will go into battle sometime next year. Yeah. She's going into battle this London, this summer in London. Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And she will emerge victorious. Okay? Yeah, that's huge. And Ariana Grande is sort of the lieutenant. This is how I'm assuming wars work there's general and lieutenant general and lieutenant i don't know how that sort of order breaks down but no one does i i have nothing to add to the conversation except i'm thrilled
Starting point is 00:07:35 here's what i would say thank you great job casting great casting. We'll see you there. I think the director is also a perfect sort of... Mr. Chu. Mr. Chu, Mr. M. Chu. Can't wait for his take on it. I mean... And we're available, too. Just saying. We're available.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I mean, one of us might be... I think we've got a Fiera, we've got a Bach here. That's all we're saying and if they sort of want if they want to see tapes if they want to see tapes it's fine but you know who I would cast oh my god see our guest this week would really
Starting point is 00:08:16 work in any of the male roles or the female roles the animal roles the genderless roles whatever I think Morrible he'd be a great Morrible would be a great dilemmand oh you said it yes i said it speak it out loud we'll speak it out loud um our guest is really just pretty phenomenal i alluded to him earlier when he came on the zoom that i've been a close follower for a long time and i I would like to tell him in person very soon. So let's just bring him in.
Starting point is 00:08:47 It was a perfect illusion. It was a perfect illusion. He is such a wonderful person. Stunning. He was the adorable PA on the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson. He was a writer on Jimmy Kimmel Live. He has written for Black Monday, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Now he hosts the wonderful podcast, I Said No Gifts. I love saying that. I said no gifts. I said no gifts. It can be angry, it can be sweet, it can be genuine, it can be just something you say. A perfect sort of soundbite for anybody. Good title.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Good title. Great title. He tries to destroy his guests every episode, and they always undermine him by bringing a gift and they always end up talking about what's under the wrapping he's so funny so wonderful um it's sort of i think unfortunately i feel like he is now the ambassador to salt lake city for some people which i i wish i could turn the computer around i just can't um but frozen up there is mariam cos Cosby with her eyes wide open screaming at Whitney, who she now has a problem with.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I'm very excited to sort of get into it with the guest. Me too. Me too. But anyway, we're so, so thrilled to have him. Everyone, please welcome Richard Weiner! Okay. Oh, you two. God bless. God bless.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I had dinner at 4.30. You did? I had a full dinner at 4.30pm. How was it? What did you eat? How did you feel sated? I had a chicken salad. Look, I knew we were going to be recording. I have a gym
Starting point is 00:10:23 appointment at 8pm. What? Damn. After this we were going to be recording. I have a gym appointment at 8 p.m. What? Damn. After this recording, I would throw up. Yes. This is the scheduling that's just dominating my life now. Wow. A full dinner, 4.30.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I will say this. I was recently with my parents on vacation and they have dinner at 4.30. So this is very parental of you. This is very full grown adult dinner at 4.30. This is Thanksgiving time. This is, I mean, I'm saying so this is very parental of you this is very full-grown adult dinner at 4 30 this is thanksgiving time this is i mean i'm saying the timing is very thanksgiving it's like wait you're we're eating okay i guess we're eating at three because the turkey's been in the oven for eight hours you know right everyone will be hungry at two and everyone will be hungry at 7 30 yes yes well we're so sorry that you had to sort of shift your schedule.
Starting point is 00:11:06 This is my life now. My gym is only open on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, so it just creates an issue for me every Monday. Richard, describe your lifestyle. What's a typical Monday? Let's just stick to Mondays. What's a Monday like for you?
Starting point is 00:11:20 If you weren't recording a podcast, what would that look like? If I weren't recording a podcast, I would, you know, I get up. Well, we are in daylight savings, you know, the shadow of daylight savings ending or beginning. I don't know. I'll wake up at around 730. I get out of bed. I make some coffee.
Starting point is 00:11:40 I do a little reading. I eat my protein bar, which does not register as a flavor in my mouth anymore because i've had the same things it's absolutely something to chew and swallow yeah then i'll go to work we start at 10 o'clock we go till noon we have a lunch break sure what do you eat then then on a mond? I'm eating a protein shake. The first nine hours of my day are horrible. Stop right now. Stop the pops. Are you trying to
Starting point is 00:12:12 sound like an ideal? I think you've come on this podcast so that you could say what your Monday routine is so you can sound like an ideal. Because you've said you've not missed one step so far. It's a lot of protein and health and waking up early and reading and having appointments at eight none of this is by
Starting point is 00:12:30 choice look pre-zoom writers rooms i was you know we would have lunch at yes yes lunch was being purchased for me i didn't have to think about that element now i i have to fend for myself which i know most of america is screaming fuck you yeah they are but a nice little thing about being in a writer's room is occasionally you get a mediocre sandwich for lunch yeah occasionally now i can't think about it so i'm making a protein shake sure this is the thing that is very astute. I feel like this is just transferring from pre-COVID where you were not making decisions necessarily about what you were eating for lunch. That was sort of being made for you on some level. You would choose the particular kind of sandwich you would get. Right. But now that you're, you know, doing writer's room from home,
Starting point is 00:13:23 you've maintained that decision fatigue and you're just like, I don't want to think about it. And therefore, I'm just going to make the same protein shake. I also can't cook. I'm not going to go to a restaurant during the lunch break. Lisa Barlow vibes.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. I'm stumbling into my kitchen. I'm making the protein shake. I'm out of bananas at this point. So it's even worse than usual. And I'm eating it it's fine i can't make a decision someone canceled on brunch brunch on me yesterday it was two full hours of me trying to decide what to do with the rest of my day i ended up vacuuming
Starting point is 00:13:56 yeah well at least it was something useful can i ask you a question so basically if you're in a group of people whether it's at work or whatever and there's that moment wherever where someone or someone says they sort of throw their head over their one shoulder and they go, so what should we get for lunch? Are you someone who weighs in or are you someone who's like, I'm going with the flow of whatever one wants? And by that same token, would you ever be the one person who says, hey, guys, sorry, I know everyone wants this, but I don't. What role do you play in a lunch decision? He hasn't had to be in this position in a while. I know, but I'm just asking in terms of who you are as an individual, because we want to get to know you.
Starting point is 00:14:34 That's why people listen to the podcast. Who are you at lunch? It's an absolutely fair question. And I am someone who will go along with almost anything. I will eat garbage. But it was actually at Black monday there were two restaurants i think one of the restaurants started with the word doctor uh i can't remember what it was but it the first time we had it it was so revolting and made everyone feel so bad that when the writer picked that restaurant again to eat at, I said, no, we can't do that. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:15:05 We're not doing Doctor. Yeah, no. The second one is, is it a Los Angeles chain, Tender Greens? Yes. Yeah. They served me salmon that was gelatinous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:15 It was essentially pudding. And after that, I said, I have to stand up. We're not ordering from Tender Greens anymore. We're not doing Tender Greens? Damn. The fried chicken at Tender Greens is really suspect it's really expensive cafeteria food you're both of you better be careful you both underestimate your own personal power and
Starting point is 00:15:36 influence here i mean you have collectively combined the power to take them down. I hope so. I don't want anyone sort of having gelatinous salmon or that suspect fried chicken. I will say every time we order tender greens now, I will get a soup. I think their chicken soup is really good. And that's a hack that I offer to you. That's a hack. Soup is a hack for almost any restaurant. Soup is iconic.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It's Rural Culture number 103. Soup is iconic. It's such a hack when you order something that's on the menu at a place it's such a hack people don't think about soup they don't think about soup and it's a nominee for best lunch that's not true that's not true i always year-round think about soup i think about it all the time ask anybody at 30 rock i do know something about bridger about his his sort of restaurant choices that i find so charming and i relate to so much is that bridger for a while on twitter back in like 2011 12 had a whole run about arby's and he is an arby's queen arby's is so good and never gets talked about but bridger can you can you talk
Starting point is 00:16:43 about this you did have a whole series of tweets. Okay, first of all, I want to say that Bridger was one of the please, this is so humiliating. I'm so sorry, Bridger. I would say that Bridger was like one of those like quote unquote early Twitter like oh, this person's so funny. Like this was back when you would follow people
Starting point is 00:16:59 on Twitter because they were just cranking out funny, funny stuff before it like became what it is now. It still is that to some degree, but Bridger was one of those people where I was like, oh my god, this guy is so funny. And then he had a bunch of tweets about going to Arby's, meeting people
Starting point is 00:17:16 at Arby's, maybe today I'll go to Arby's. And there was one tweet that I will never forget. I know it word for word. This is one of my favorite, my top tweets of all time. Bridger, I'm so sorry to do this. This is one of my favorite top tweets of all time. Bridger, I'm so sorry to do this. This is so embarrassing. He's not sorry at all.
Starting point is 00:17:28 He wants to do it. That's why he's doing it. I'm glad for Arby's. So go ahead. I'm glad for Arby's too. Okay, and I haven't had them in a while, but this is the tweet. And I'm kind of spoiling
Starting point is 00:17:36 the tweet already, but this is the tweet. Spoiler alert for the tweet. If you want to see the tweet, just go back, look back on 2011-12. You can read it yourself, but you've been warned.
Starting point is 00:17:43 This is a Bridger Werniger classic. can you guess where i am hint i am looking at a person parentheses the person is wearing a shirt other parentheses i am at rb it's the perfect tweet it's the perfect congratulations can we get a ding ding ding sound effect ding ding ding thank you Doug I am I'm just a puddle and I'm thrilled about I look I've been brought on here and now I'm just proudly owning how much I love Arby's it's good to be trash I think
Starting point is 00:18:17 I will say Arby's the menu's too big we've got to narrow it down Arby's is shooting out some experimental things there you make the roast beef sandwich it's of course it's incredibly it's a very suspicious product yeah i enjoy eating yeah but when you start putting that into like a gyro what are we talking just do your thing so you just wish arby's was more like an in and out situation with a lean menu yes a few things that everyone loves that are undeniably good we could all learn something from in and out situation with a lean menu yes a few things that everyone loves that
Starting point is 00:18:45 are undeniably good we could all learn something from in and out you know especially their anti-vax well anti-vax uh bible verses yeah those are the two things those are the two things are they anti-vax the owner is very anti-vax of course he's pushing back against a lot of vaccine not mandates but like checking like vaccination status whatever we don't have this coming from bowen chick-fil-a yang i just want to say he is an absolute icon of whispering to me so we're gonna check for light and i'm like no this is well bridget will relate to this chick-fil-a i feel like is this thing that... Listen to this explanation, queen. No, no.
Starting point is 00:19:25 You better go off. Hear me out. I am. It was... I don't know exactly where it originated, but it feels like Utah, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, like that part of the country, like Rockies, west of Midwest,
Starting point is 00:19:40 like that was like our thing. And then in the years after like 2007 it's really fucking like metastasized into this chick-fil-a thing that we know now jesus got involved well jesus jesus was always involved let's get that straight but like that jesus was always involved let's get that straight so it was it was a thing where like if you grew up in let's say aurora colorado like me you would go to chick-fil-a and be like, oh, right, they're closed on Sundays. But all the Mormon kids work there, and we're all going to go and drink a lemonade. And it was just part of the life.
Starting point is 00:20:13 It was built into the lifestyle there. Is that fair to say, Bridger? Weirdly, sort of. Chick-fil-A was only in malls in Utah. Okay. And it dwindled. There was one remaining Chick-fil-A in Fashion Place Okay. And it dwindled. There was one remaining Chick-fil-A
Starting point is 00:20:26 in Fashion Place Mall for years. Fashion Place Mall? Fashion Place. Where you want to go, obviously. It was the saddest Chick-fil-A and then, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:34 around 2007 comes Roaring Back. Yeah. It's all over the place and now people kind of own it almost as a political thing. Of course. Which is just mind-boggling.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I had a straight writer say to my face sorry i just like how it tastes oh what are we oh i'm sorry it's a fine chicken sandwich you don't have to like throw it in my face that's the thing i feel bad about it's like the sandwich is fine it's fine but when you have places like tender greens who are doing chicken so wrong it's at least nice to go to chick-fil-a and where i have done it and at least you know they're gonna do their chicken right but you know who else does chicken tenders right arby's thank you incredibly well they do chicken incredibly well and they have a soda swap the one in times square has the one with all the incredible sodas where you can say
Starting point is 00:21:25 it's not just root beer. It's vanilla root beer. It's not just Dr. Pepper. It's cherry Dr. Pepper that you can whip and swap. Do all the sorts of things. I am so happy to hear about. No one knows about Arby's chicken tenders. They don't know because you said it.
Starting point is 00:21:42 You said it. It's the menu's too big. They get lost. Isolate. In and out. You said it. It's the menu's too big. The menu's too big. Isolate. In and out. We do burgers. Bye. See you later. I feel like the soda swap, as Matt calls it.
Starting point is 00:21:53 When Matt says soda swap, he means like... That iconic thing. It's a Coke freestyle. There you go. A Coke freestyle. King behavior. Oh my God. This is the writer brain really working.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Yes. In that way that he knew what it was really called, that's that writer brain. Oh yeah. But I think he invented the term sort of off the cuff. I wish. Coke freestyle. That's actually so hot. That's hot.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But I feel like this is also a big thing among Mormons who can't drink alcohol, can't have caffeine, can't like, or I mean, they can't have Coca-Cola, obviously, but at least they can get creative with like adding some syrups to a phosphate, to a Sprite, to whatever. Is that also fair to say? Bowen, this is the most confusing thing. Maybe the most, well, no, it's not the most confusing thing about Mormonism, but one of the most confusing things.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I agree. Mormons drink Coke. Lisa Barlow vibes. It's coffee. Yeah. Coffee is the one definite no. Why? What?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Do you have an answer to why? Because I know you sort of left the church. You were like a Heather Gay when you were a teenager. Is that correct? I didn't come out until I was 30. Oh my goodness. Oh. You didn't leave Mormonism until you were 30?
Starting point is 00:23:04 It was a slow exit from Mormonism startingism starting when i was like 1920 okay so so got it so that feels that feels pretty i would say that that that all makes sense like based on like a lot of a lot of this journey feels like that is sort of the way it's it's it gets tracked these days yes but but talk about the sodas. So, okay. The soda culture, caffeine culture within Mormonism is baffling to everyone.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm going to just be a spokesperson for the Mormon church at this point and just let people know. I'm sorry to make you do this. We've got to clear it up. We have to clear it up.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I think it needs to be you because there's so many voices on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. I want to know how you can distill it so we can understand it, and then I want to know who you identify with most on the show. But through the lens of soda.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I just feel like, I'm sorry to put you in this position. Don't apologize. No, that was the plan all along. I want to reach out to Mormons everywhere and say, you can have any caffeinated soda. You can have a Coke, a Diet Coke, a Mountain Dew, a Diet Mountain Dew, a Pepsi, a Diet Pepsi if it mountain dew a pepsi a diet pepsi if
Starting point is 00:24:07 it's the only thing at arby's yes um can you have cream soda you can have you have so much cream soda non-stop creams wow goodness wicked cannot have coffee cannot have coffee cannot have caffeinated tea what is it a terrestrial drink is it a. What? Is it a terrestrial drink? Is it a devil's drink? Is it an outer darkness drink? Mormons have, it's an outer darkness. Well, no. There are very few people who go to outer darkness. What is that? Basically, within Mormonism,
Starting point is 00:24:36 outer darkness is like ultimate hell. Oh, so, wait. Heather Gay was just talking about this on this episode. Yes. I didn't know this, that there's different levels of hell. I only saw the last half of the episode. Yeah, and- Because Bravo put it on at 9.30. I know, it was really weird what they did.
Starting point is 00:24:51 They were being trickerous. This was the big one because Jen gets arrested. Yeah, I saw the good part. Heather sort of delineates it. She goes, there's celestial, there's- What's the one below that? Maybe telestial? Telestial, terrestrial,
Starting point is 00:25:05 outer darkness. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Outer darkness. And outer darkness is reserved for truly 11 people or something. It's like, like the rule is
Starting point is 00:25:13 if you meet God and then deny God, you go to outer darkness. I see. So it's, very few people get that opportunity. Everyone else
Starting point is 00:25:22 kind of just goes to heaven. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honey! I met God and she said, said babe you better stick with me and i said no bitch i left um whatever i met god i said never mind queen i'm turning around you watch my fat ass walk away where's outer? Taking the elevator down there, honey. Heat it up. Beat it up. Stop. Anyway, this is so human. I'm sorry, Bridger.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Stop apologizing. This was the plan all along. But I feel like you must... I feel this way when people ask me about my upbringing. I'm like, I don't want to sort of get re-traumatized in the recounting of certain things. It's not that severe, but I'm like, oh, but it is sort of like, I got to, you know, sort of exhume all that stuff from my life and be like, oh, what do you think? For me, it's like, people just don't know how to modulate.
Starting point is 00:26:16 They either, they'll find out and then they don't ask anything and then it's weird or they ask everything. And I'd much rather people just ask everything. I don't care. Okay, great. I'm happy to talk about it and we've got to get we all have to get on the same page about mormons drinking soda yes that's the mormon church should be putting out ads yeah you can drink maybe it's like a collab with coke yeah something well lisa barlow is essentially advertising Diet Coke on the show and so when there was a question about
Starting point is 00:26:46 soda consumption on the podcast just now I really was thrown for a loop because here she is already throwing it in the face of God outer darkness shit drinking tequila and even selling it mass market and she's obviously a huge fan of Diet Coke but these things are
Starting point is 00:27:02 sort of acceptable I suppose yes Lisa Barlow's entire relationship with mormonism is baffling it's like what part of the religion is are you involved in because it doesn't seem to be the religion and her family is going to die they eat at del taco three three meals a day it's crazy it's wild those little boys i relate to that soda consumption yeah you're talking to two soda heads soda queens when i was little i actually think the reason i am the way i am is because growing up in the 90s i think it hadn't hit long island that soda was bad so when i was when i was growing up every dinner there was three types of soda on the table there was a full
Starting point is 00:27:43 two liter bottle of sprite a full two liter bottle table there was a full two liter bottle of sprite a full two liter bottle of coke and a full two liter bottle of diet coke the trinity the trinity really so that was that's coke sometimes sprite when i was feeling like maybe maybe we'll just chill tonight you know what i mean i was at dinner with a friend a week ago and he ordered himself a Sprite I could not believe my eyes who is this person? the very funny writer John Milstein he's wonderful, very funny and he told me there's a secret group of people who are drinking Sprite
Starting point is 00:28:14 adults it's true I'm not so secretly the preferred drink in any situation for me is a Sprite no alcohol, just I want a Sprite the most refreshing drink in the world. It's one of the best kept secrets.
Starting point is 00:28:30 All the coolest people are drinking Sprite. And it's like, it needs to be known. Do you guys want to know the Mandarin translation of Sprite? Yeah. It's Xue Bi, which roughly translates to, I might be getting this wrong, but Xue means snow. and I think it means snow nectar, like
Starting point is 00:28:48 snow juice. Oh, that is gorgeous. Isn't that beautiful? And I'm like, that is... I would drink Sprite. But that's the same thing with Mountain Dew. Mountain Dew is a beautiful name. Gorgeous name. Mountain Dew is absolutely stunning name. I wish that it tasted as good as it sounded.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Because you hear Mountain Dew, and then you sort of drink what it is, and you're like, oh, that feels like super Sprite. It doesn't feel like Mountain Dew. One of the darkest moments of my closeted life was probably 2012. I was living in a studio, mid-city Los Angeles. Wow, mid-city. For some reason, I walked to the nearby Ralph's at 11 p.m and purchased a diet mountain dew started drinking it on my way back passed through a group of like tall very good
Starting point is 00:29:33 looking very well-dressed men near the l-ray theater and as i'm passing through i look over and like this far away as i'm drinking diet mountain dew is Morrissey. Oh! I felt... I've never felt lower. Just trash. Oh, I... Just absolute trash. Did he notice you drinking this Diet Mountain Dew? I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It just screams out the packaging, really. It's just, like, letting you know. It's neon green. The only thing worse is to drink a Mountain Dew Code Red. Oh. Because the packaging is literally Code Red. I mean, it's alerting everyone around. I feel like Morrissey would not judge someone
Starting point is 00:30:10 for drinking a Diet Mountain Dew. And it feels like maybe even like a very Smiths-esque thing to drink one at like past 11 p.m. in Mid-City. Like it feels that that's part of the imagery that the Smiths evoke i absolutely disagree i think so i think that's true this this charming man drinking a diet mountain dew i would go out tonight but i've got a diet mountain dew at home that's perfect i think that's perfect the real housewives of salt lake city are back
Starting point is 00:30:52 welcome and last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg you're recording us i am disgusting never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I felt too seen. Dragged. I'm NK and this is Basket Case.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you, and it will call you a basket case. Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Once again, we find ourselves in an unprecedented election, and with all that's happening in the lead-up to the big day, a weekly podcast just won't cut it. Get a better grasp of where we stand as a nation every weekday on the NPR Politics Podcast. Here are seasoned reporters dig into the issues that are shaping voters' decisions and understand how the latest updates play into the bigger picture. Listen to the NPR Politics Podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey friends, I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is.
Starting point is 00:32:54 You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million I've got yous. Some very urgent I'm coming overs. Because, I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are, opening up the friendship circle. To you. Someone's cheating? We've got you on that.-laws are in line let's get into it toxic
Starting point is 00:33:25 friendship air it out we're on your side to help you with your concerns talk about ours and every once in a while bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us while we may be unlicensed to advise we're gonna do it anyway listen to call it what it is on the iHeartRadio app apple Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so before we ask you our question that we always ask our guests, I mean, this is compulsory at this point for you. What are your thoughts? I'm sure you've been asked so many times by people. What are your thoughts on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Are you enjoying it? Does it feel reflective of your memory of it? Or, you know, the way you conceive of Salt Lake City? Because it is his housewives intro. Because I heard on your episode of your podcast with Cola Scola that you had not waited The Waters of Housewives. You just said, okay, if they're doing Salt Lake City, let me just see what the fuck it is.'s a beautiful gateway i think i agree i had seen
Starting point is 00:34:29 maybe one episode of beverly hills and was not hooked right uh and this has sucked me in in a way that i could have never imagined it's quite good beautiful i went back home for the first time since the pandemic in April. I saw my parents and then I borrowed my mom's car and at about 8.30 p.m. drove to Beauty Lab in Layser. Wow. Just to see the building. Oh my God. You didn't go in? Well, it was closed.
Starting point is 00:34:55 So I went the next day and went in. You went in. What? Okay. Explain what it's like to walk into Beauty Lab in Layser. I want a full trip report. Well, I was familiar with this parking lot. This parking lot is the area.
Starting point is 00:35:09 There used to be a sporting goods store. There was the weird teacher supply store where you would go to get things for school supplies or whatever. And then there was maybe a Skipper's Fish and Chips for a very long time. So I was familiar. Going to put a pin in that because I want to go there. I'm writing it down. Skipper's Fish and Chips for a very long time. So I was like familiar. Gonna put a pin in that because I want to go there. I'm writing it down. Skipper's Fish and Chips, iconic.
Starting point is 00:35:30 The moment I saw Beauty Lab on the show, I was like, oh, I know. That's a very trashy parking lot that that's located in. Sure, sure, sure. I go there and I pulled up and I thought I'm going to go in and just act like not,
Starting point is 00:35:42 like I'm not familiar with the show. I just want to look at the menu. What's happening here? I went in and caved immediately. I said, I'm going to go in and just act like I'm not familiar with the show. I just want to look at the menu. What's happening here? I went in and caved immediately. I said, I'm sorry. I'm a huge fan of the show and I just had to come in. And they loved it. They were thrilled. They were beyond thrilled. Oh, do you want to get a picture? Do you want to get a picture?
Starting point is 00:35:57 They take you right back to the angel wings. They have one of those terrible street art angel wings. They took my photo. I have sunglasses on because they're prescription i look insane um and then i left it's the whole thing felt very like soviet hospital right oh my god like they're like i felt like they were weird little curtains and it just didn't because it feels almost medical but not not really not really it's beauty medical hospital but they were so welcoming and uh thrilled to have me i've got photos and then i my sister
Starting point is 00:36:32 knew where or the whereabouts of uh or like basically where whitney rose lives because uh they have like a she lives in this area called daybreak and it's a very clear maybe where she was my sister god bless has not seen the show drove me around until we found whitney's house and i she lives in this area called Daybreak and it's very clear maybe where she was. My sister, God bless, has not seen the show, drove me around until we found Whitney's house and I got my picture outside of it. Oh my God. So Heather was not at Beauty Lab and Whitney may have been
Starting point is 00:36:56 inside, but you don't know. Yeah. Let's assume she was inside. Sure. Let's assume she was inside. It was the pandemic still. And let's assume Heather was doing work. Oh, yeah. She was blasting someone's face or something. Behind one of the USSR curtains.
Starting point is 00:37:12 I mean, do you have a temperature read on what Salt Lake City as a community, as a municipal community, how they are affected by this show. I have a little bit. I feel like there's a decent amount of embarrassment. Okay. That has to be true. I feel like practicing Mormons are probably annoyed. Yeah. I think the rest of the experience that these women have
Starting point is 00:37:42 feels very far removed from Utah in general. Right. Especially like Meredith. I mean, it seems like she doesn't even live there. She's a full-on New Yorker. Right. It's very clear based on her Instagram activity that that's the case.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I do have... I won't say how they're related to me or anything because I don't know how well Lisa knows them. But I do have someone in my life who has interacted with Lisa. And not a great report. I also know someone, again, I wish I could give more details. That's okay. You always can.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Saw, is this going to get me sued? Mary not acting well at an event sure that's all you that's all you have to say i don't think she's acting well on a single event depicted on the show so i don't think that's gonna get you sued i think that she's libelous for bad behavior at events right uh oh i wish i i really wish i could uh more about this. I will say also things about bills not getting paid, that kind of... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:50 When I started talking about it on Instagram, people from high school or whatever would reach out and be like, oh, this person we almost had to call collections on, this sort of thing. So it's like, oh, people, they're in the community and they are probably all terrible. Although I kind of love them. 100%.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I'm hitting critical mass with Mary, unfortunately. I'm like, I don't know how much longer I can watch this. She's got a big episode this week, I'm going to tell you. Like, she's completely unhinged. It's really dark, and I think it's going to get darker. Let me ask you guys what you think about Jenny because I think she just seems like the most normal person who's been sucked into this
Starting point is 00:39:31 it's like she stumbled into the show and she doesn't belong there she's just a nice, she has a healthy well the husband stuff the baby got weird but they seem otherwise they're doing science projects at home or whatever. And then there's never any drama other than like, we're at the ski resort.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Now I'm going to tell you, you have to have a baby and I'm going to marry someone else. There you go, Bridger. It's that there's, there doesn't seem to be any drama because I don't think there is. And I honestly think this stuff with her husband is a little, it smells a little manufactured to me. Which is crazy because she's truly like, the fish are nibbling at her legs and she's talking about her 10th miscarriage. It's like, this is not something you should be pressured into talking about.
Starting point is 00:40:14 We're not high on Jenny. We're not high on Jenny and we don't know about the future. It's too bad. And like, I hate to, I do agree with you on everything you've said, Bridger. And it feels like, I don't mean to say this in a way that, like, to frame it in terms of belonging, because that's, like, a touchy sort of thing to throw out there when it comes to, like, I don't mean to, I'm sorry to go here, but, like, an Asian person feeling belonging anywhere because it feels like there is this effort and it's a little sweaty i think jenny's probably like you said just like a
Starting point is 00:41:07 lovely normal person who's has a wonder has a really interesting backstory but like is otherwise pretty well adjusted and then kind of has to like do the reality show persona drag that like i think jen shaw does but then oh wait she's actually a despicable person like that it's horrifying to me if it's true or not true so if it's true that her husband dewey is saying to her on camera for the first time i want to have children despite the fact that you've had nine miscarriages and a stillbirth and you are in your 40s and your body is not able to have children it doesn't matter to me you should have a baby and if you don't want to have one we should introduce another woman into our mare into our relationship if it's actually true that that is happening on the show
Starting point is 00:41:58 and it's unfolding as real drama that's awful and if they're faking it it's also awful and it's either true or it isn't so it's bad either way she i wish she could have just had a normal life i feel like this whole i wish for everyone a normal life can i say that's all rule of culture number 11 i wish for everyone to have a normal life that's all i really want for everyone they seem so it seems like a happy family yeah well on this episode like she does mary doesn't invite her to her italian cooking lesson so they're at home and it's literally this is the scene it's jenny in the kitchen like washing her hands to cook and her children are like the von traps they come in one by one mommy what are you doing
Starting point is 00:42:45 can i help you cook well yes i was planning on making dinner of course well let me just get my hands washed and clean as well so that i can help okay wonderful the next kid comes in hey are you guys cooking in here together might i join absolutely wash your hands and it's just like what the fuck is this that's the show i want i guess you're right i guess you're right i suppose you're right oh all right well before we before we um drop into the outer darkness that is talking about only this show on this podcast and don't test us um we should ask the question that we ask all of our guests bridger what was the culture that made you say culture is for you so this is basically asking what was the culture that sort of made you into the person that you are this could be popular
Starting point is 00:43:39 culture film television music theater etc dance or just general culture what's it for you if you're looking back and assessing i've i will say the what my family zero god bless my parents terrible taste uh-huh both of my older brothers zero taste sure no peek into the outside world the only tiny peek i had into anything was that for some reason my parents watched letterman which is so out of the ordinary for them um which truly like letterman was kind of how i was introduced to amy sedaris which became uh strangers with candy and that the fact that if that didn't exist i would probably be at the bottom of the Great Salt Lake or something. It's truly that tiny because there was no other culture.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zero. Yeah. So, that, I don't know. That's a great answer. Oh, I love that. I want to know, though, what was life filled with if there wasn't, like, culture and, like, arts? Video games. Okay, cool. Okay, great. filled with if there wasn't like culture and like arts like was it video games okay cool okay great
Starting point is 00:44:47 video games were a nice safe uh entry into which led to the internet which is another like that was another little peek into the world right was it like starcraft like battle.net stuff and then you were like you learned how this all worked it was a diablo 2 like what like like this for me the internet is important it was early looking up mario 64 rumors yeah before the before the n64 was announced yes because that was a launch title that was a launch title and i one of the most mortifying experiences i had as i don't know sixth or seventh grader was i was so obsessed reading about mar Mario that my sister's friend Ashley called and I answered the phone Mario and I thought, now everyone knows I'm a nerd.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Ah! I would think it was funny. The secret was out. Secret was out. That was your big secret. But yeah, Mario, which led into... I still think so much about video games despite the fact that i play maybe two a
Starting point is 00:45:45 year i'm the same way i'm the same way i don't play them with the sort of i don't know availability though yeah sure like i i wish i played more but i think about them all the time yeah i don't i guess it's just some a disease i'll live with until i die. The fact that, like, at 75, I'll be thinking about video games feels far-fetched. Yeah. But here we are, decades later. Here we are. Was it, um, and then, talk about, I have such indelible memories
Starting point is 00:46:16 of, I wasn't even playing Mario 64, I was just watching someone else do it, and I was like, this is incredible. It's younger sibling culture right there not even that it wasn't even my sister it was like other kids like other kids in the neighborhood and be like this this is insane well graphically that was like a new frontier it was a whole new thing yeah I mean it was it is like it was like a giant shift in the way anything worked for as far as
Starting point is 00:46:42 computers went right absolutely as far as as far as video games went in terms of like 3d motion it was like and then just i mean to think about like i think all the time about how they got it so right in that game genius to be like okay it's gonna be at the castle but then you jump into these paintings to go into the love like genius that would still work today that's still like that is still innovative today and that is crazy to me i don't know be right out of the gate in a medium and do it right feels wild to me it's like landing the mars rover it's's like you have like one square inch of terrain to land on and you gotta land it
Starting point is 00:47:28 just right. Exactly. Did you feel that way about Zelda? Of course. I mean, just completely Banjo-Kazooie. Loved Banjo-Kazooie. It's underrated. Banjo-Kazooie actually doesn't
Starting point is 00:47:43 get talked about. I feel like Kazooie is a very gay I mean they're both very gay characters there's kind of this sassy bird and Banjo's kind of sexy he's got nothing but shorts on not kind of he's a hot bear also like I'm sorry but
Starting point is 00:48:01 can I just stick up for my girl Donkey Kong because Donkey Kong I feel like gets the shaft and i'm really excited because super nintendo world is getting there's going to be donkey kong roller coasters in them so we're not just doing first thought like oh it's super nintendo world and it's going to be mario only donkey kong will be represented and it matters so am i with donkey kong people minecart absolutely hello minecart if that roller coaster isn't a minecart then the So am I with Donkey Kong people? Mine cart. Absolutely. Hello. Mine cart. If that roller coaster isn't a mine cart, then the whole thing should be shut down.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And let me tell you something, Bridger. You're going to be excited. Guess what? It's a mine cart roller coaster, babe. And it jumps the track. That can't be true. Well, then I guess you're going to eat your goddamn hat, aren't you? That's going to be true.
Starting point is 00:48:44 They can't possibly jump the track. That is such a safety hazard. Look it up. Because guess what? It's gonna appear to jump the track, but there's gonna be a track underneath the track. There's gonna be a track underneath the track. So there's gonna be like a single rail track and then like a quote-unquote track
Starting point is 00:48:59 and it's gonna appear to jump the track. An illusion. Very much so. A perfect illusion. I don't like that. I don't like that. I think they should commit or it's a binary thing they either do it or they don't boan wants to be soaring through the air in a minecart potentially suing universal yeah they're making a movie with donkey kong is that right yeah no we can't let these characters talk it's the you know what it is it's that thing of it's like all the nintendo characters together and so now chris pratt is mario and so they announced the cast for this like mario movie and i was like the casting is all over the place i
Starting point is 00:49:37 felt like chris pratt should have been donkey kong that makes sense i was like just the casting was literally all over the place on and you teller Joy is Peach, which I loved. And the rest of it, all the male characters were like, Jack Black should not be that one. He should be this one, that one, the other one. But, you know, whatever. Who's Jack Black? We could pull it up. Who cares? I mean, Mario's in the conversation. I do
Starting point is 00:49:57 want to talk about Letterman for a bit, but let's just talk about it while I pull it up. I'm pulling it up. Okay, um, I mean, I feel like for us, for us, you know, friends of Dorothy or whatever, like the Sedaris interviews were always like just such a moment, you know? Just the best television I could watch.
Starting point is 00:50:19 The best television. I mean, like I remember them specifically, like the one she came on when, like, cause she would just like, they would just call her up when like a guest would drop out she's like right up the street and then you know like duane wade was there and then she had this whole thing do you know what i'm talking about where she was like duane duane duane duane and then like she would like promote she promoted the strings with kenny movie which felt like a beautiful moment because like she actually had something to promote um she would always have a new dress which i think would be purchased with the money from
Starting point is 00:50:48 the previous appearance which i yes should we talk about like uh being a waiter things like this it just everything she did was perfect she would give tour i feel like she gave a tour of her neighborhood at one point that was just electric uh-huh i mean i feel like there is something about letterman that like would work today despite all of like the culture being pulled in a million different directions but like he was he was the person who was able to pull off being an asshole in the way that like you could say that like larry david does now but like for like his persona as a late night host was so so right even though he was like a jerk and like has like shitty opinions of course but like you like you could tell that like it's like the only person like tina fey would like love to go on and like like she like prepare stuff for
Starting point is 00:51:40 him um and then like the paris hilton interview i unfortunately think that it is still like it's it's humiliating for her obviously and it's like not yeah but why did she go on that right time it's like you know what i mean like i understand it's painful for her now but it's like ultimately like who why would you book her on that show i think he's gonna be nice i just i just that that is like people can come for me i think that is one of the funniest moments in late night tv at the time paris was like courting negative attention and sort of like loving it and like i don't know like doing pretty despicable things not that that like calls for her humiliation on like a late night show but like i i just feel like this is not like she's not completely a victim in this scenario unfortunately and i feel like dave was just kind
Starting point is 00:52:31 of having fun with her like can i just say this is so i'm sorry to make this about me but like when when anna dresden and i were writing the iceberg weekend update we were just we were basing it off of that interview oh my my God. We were like, someone, someone who was uncomfortable does not want to talk about something and is trying to deflect and is being like, I'm actually here to talk about something else. And like,
Starting point is 00:52:51 that was what we based it on. Like, we were like, we have to study this. We have to really study this. And like, this is how we're going to like write it. And I,
Starting point is 00:52:58 and I, and I, and I watched that back last year and I was like, this is, of course uncomfortable, but like, I don't know, like when the guy cheers, like love you paris she goes love you too and then letterman without missing
Starting point is 00:53:09 a beat goes ah someone you met in prison and the audience just erupts i mean like no one notice that like no late night host is doing mean no you know they're all the nicest guys in the world like it's so it is so race to the finish kindness that you kind of miss that edge because it's and it's almost like i wonder if there's something where they feel like they can't do it because they don't feel like they can touch him you know but then what are we watching i don't yeah i mean cordon what are we talking about the nice and also paris was not the first person that letterman was mean to I don't know. I mean, Corden, what are we talking about? The nice, and also Paris was not the first person that Letterman was mean to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Like if she was his first target, it'd be like, I don't know. No, but like, I feel like Kimmel, Kimmel does a great job. I think so too.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I, as real, I feel like he does everything he can to make it a real interview and between two human beings rather than playing a game or whatever we're doing on these other things exactly and i'm sure i feel like people who work there like come out like i don't know really enjoying that experience lewis loves him i worked there and yeah yeah he's the night he is an actually nice person so he's just a real person on television rather than the reverse of what i think is happening on other shows that's right all right so this is this is the mario voice cast and
Starting point is 00:54:33 let's see if you agree with me that this is wrong not that these people shouldn't be in the movie just that it should be switched around sure chris pratt is playing mario i have a problem with this based on based on voice casting only anya is peach sure charlie day is luigi seth rogan is donkey kong keegan michael key is toad and jack black is bowser correct me if i'm wrong seth rogan should be bowser he's got that gravelly voice like and also bowser's number one thing is that he's a comedic genius. I feel like, like, not that Jack Black isn't literally hilarious, but I feel like Jack Black is giving me more,
Starting point is 00:55:14 honestly, Donkey Kong. I feel like Charlie Day... Seth Rogen should be... Charlie Day should be... Mario! I was gonna say... Yeah, that works. Keegan should be Luigiio i was gonna say yeah that works keegan should be luigi i think they got they got to bring it someone new for toad i don't know who that kicks off i'd say you know what maybe chris
Starting point is 00:55:33 pratt would be a funny toad but i don't get keegan michael key for toad like what's the take no you need a bright not that keegan doesn't have a you know you know what charlie day should be toad charlie day should be toad oh interesting choice you're, lovely voice. Charlie Day should be Toad. Charlie Day should be Toad. Oh, interesting choice. Okay, you're saying Chris should be Bowser? Chris Pratt should be Donkey Kong. Jack Black should be Mario. Keegan should be Luigi.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Seth should be Bowser. And Charlie Day should be... I don't know. Mario? No, Charlie Day should be Toad. That's it. Period. Love it. Charlie Day as Toad makes sense to me.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Perfect sense. 100%. None of these characters should have voices. It should be a silent film. I agree. It should be, you know, Shaun the Sheep. The artist.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yes. The artist. Thank you. Yes. Yes. I mean, it should be, it's going to be really unsettling
Starting point is 00:56:21 to hear them say more than four words. I mean, like, to me, the longest Peach has ever spoken aloud in real life is at the beginning of Mario 64 when she's like please come to my castle for a cup of tea or whatever the fuck she says she mostly says oh
Starting point is 00:56:34 she mostly says oh she says a variety of things throughout Mario Kart she wrote that beautiful letter at the beginning of Mario 64 and then she's screaming she iconically is when she goes into the water and mario heart toad i usually i'm toad and so you get a lot of wow and you get a lot of like a lot of that shit
Starting point is 00:56:58 which i kind of love and i just feel like that is charlie day energy and the and the toad scream the toad effort or whatever that people don't talk about enough is what are you talking about of course amazing amazing so dropped in it's one of the best sounds the real housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh, my gosh. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:57:28 And last season's drama was just the tip of the iceberg. You're recording us? I am disgusted. Never in a million years after everything we've been through did I think that you would reach out to our sworn enemy. We were friends. How could you do this to me? I don't trust her. The Real Housewives
Starting point is 00:57:46 of Salt Lake City, Wednesdays at 9 on Bravo or stream it on City TV+. I felt too seen, dragged. I'm NK and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies. On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case. Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Once again, we find ourselves in an unprecedented election. And with all that's happening in the lead up to the big day, a weekly podcast just won't cut it. Get a better grasp of where we stand as a nation every weekday on the NPR Politics Podcast. Here are seasoned reporters dig into the issues that are shaping voters' decisions and understand how the latest updates play into the bigger picture. Listen to the NPR Politics Podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey friends! I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually
Starting point is 00:59:32 besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks, a million I've got yous, some very urgent I'm coming overs. Because, I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are opening up the friendship circle. To you. Someone's cheating? We've got you on that. In-laws are in-lying? Let's get into it. Toxic friendship? Air it out. We're on your side to help you with your concerns. Talk about ours. And every once in a while, bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us. While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway.
Starting point is 01:00:13 Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Bridget, did you ever play Super Mario Galaxy? Of course! If there's a new Mario game, I'll play it You play Odyssey? I feel like I should revisit because people really wrote that off pretty quickly It's pretty good
Starting point is 01:00:36 I just kind of played it I finished it in two days and so I have no memory of it but I feel like if I were to start again or try to get all the moons I think i would like really enjoy it it's delightful there's the you know the nightclub singer i mean there's just bizarre pauline right pauline she's the mayor and the nightclub singer yes she does oh my god matt you would die for pauline i bet i would she's she's in a red dress she's the mayor of new donk city new donk city new donk and there's this whole segment once you beat that world where she sings this beautiful jazz song as you like as you as
Starting point is 01:01:14 mario like jump around skyscrapers you turn into a 2d version of yourself 8-bit version of mario taking coins while this gorgeous the most beautiful song you've ever heard in the world plays and there's fireworks it's in the night sky one of the most beautiful song you've ever heard in the world plays. And there's fireworks in the night sky. One of the most beautiful. I genuinely believe a lovely moment in video games. True. It feels like a monument. Yes. I want to drive into New York.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I want to drive into New York City with that song just blaring. Yes! Oh, I'm doing that the next time. You have to. I always play, like, I'm so fucking stupid and basic, but it's like a college thing
Starting point is 01:01:47 that we used to do when we would drive back from the city. We would play The Boys Are Back in Town. It's very 2008, like you're 19 years old. But like,
Starting point is 01:01:53 I'm going to try that next time. Another good choice when you're returning home is Maxine Nightingale's Right Back Where We Started From. Oh, gorgeous. Perfect end of a road trip song. Perfect song.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Perfect song. Perfect song. I have something to ask you. You might've already talked about this on homophilia with Matt McConkie and Dave Holmes, but, um, your Weezer connection, I feel like we can both relate to on a deep level,
Starting point is 01:02:19 right, Matt? Yeah. Are you both Weezer people? Yeah. So I, I'm sort of lame because I, I came to them late
Starting point is 01:02:26 when they went pop. When I heard, I'm your daddy, I was like, who's this? Oh no. Part of the problem. I know, big time, but that's sort of my cross I'm your daddy. Was that the Red Album or is that Ratitude?
Starting point is 01:02:41 I feel like that's Ratitude. That's where I get blurry. Yes, that's where a lot of people get blurry, but I feel like you were, I think you were saying that, like, Weezer was your first sort of, like, latch key out of this, like, cultural desolation that was growing up in Salt Lake City. I got the Blue album at Walmart,
Starting point is 01:03:01 I think eighth or ninth grade. Wow. Would put it on repeat while i played i hate to return to video games but wave race 64 for hours oh my god uh and that was the first like that yeah led to other music and then to unfortunately pitchfork and all this nonsense now we've all been there what can i? Rivers Cuomo defined how men who read dress basically maybe for the rest of time. Yeah, he was definitive.
Starting point is 01:03:30 He is an aesthetic icon, that's for sure. Yeah, and I'm hooked. I'm trapped, unfortunately, in whatever their cycle is. Do you find him attractive? No. Got it. I will say, before Andrew Cuomo, before the Cuomo sexual for andrew cuomo yeah there were
Starting point is 01:03:47 gay weezer fans who identified as cuomo sexuals damn how rough to have that fucking idiot from them right yep so rough but i've never found rivers uh attractive really i feel like that's part of like that's part of the appeal for some people. They're like, oh, this guy who reads. That's perfect. He's very cute. He's cute in the way a Sanrio character's cute. He's Batz Maru.
Starting point is 01:04:20 He's a carobie. He's the frog. That's adorable. He is the frog. He's the frog. That's adorable. He is the frog. He is the frog. Honestly, I would like to see Rivers in the Mario movie. I think Rivers would be an interesting toad, to be honest. Now that you've said that, he will be. I guarantee he's going to end up in the movie.
Starting point is 01:04:39 I think that would be good. But this is interesting. Let's talk about this. Rivers Cuomo is cute. That, I think, is unfortunately what everything else is built around. This idea that like he is this Peter Pan. What's that movie that Robin Williams is in where he doesn't grow up? Hook.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Hook, babe. Oh, are we talking about? No, no. It's not that he never grows up. It's that he grows so fast. It's called Jack. Jack. That's right. That's right. It's that he grows so fast. It's called Jack. He grows so fast. Jack, that's right.
Starting point is 01:05:06 That's right. He iconically grows up incredibly fast. And is that a Coppola movie? What? Yes, I think it might be. I think it is. And I think it's one of J-Lo's first roles. She plays the teacher. What?
Starting point is 01:05:18 Oh, my God. And Diane Lane is in it. And of course, Diane. We can't forget about Diane. Let me source that. Okay, please, while you're doing that, River, I think he's like really leaned in a little too hard to the point of no return where he's like,
Starting point is 01:05:32 I will, I might be in my mid 40s, but I will not ever leave the state of mind of being like a 22 year old. I have been thinking about this recently and I think female songwriters age so much better than male songwriters absolutely yeah like the the wisdom actually continues to come out in the songs male songwriters become famous when they're 23 and then stay 23 until they die with a rare few rare exceptions you're so right absolutely like. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it. What's your relationship with Taylor?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Wait, Taylor? Well, there we go. Oh, God, I'm so embarrassed right now. Her name is Taylor Swift. I like to call her Taylor. I appreciate Taylor Swift like I appreciate like an Apple store where it's like it's pristine. Every detail has been poured. The money has been poured in to make this perfect for everyone no one will be uncomfortable with this sure but it makes it
Starting point is 01:06:29 difficult for me to access on an emotional level right i would say that she's she sort of supports your argument here where it's like even someone like taylor swift who got so famous at a young age can still develop in a healthy way as an artist. Where now she's writing songs in this very mature way. Like, I just feel like that never happened. That almost never happens with male artists. Like,
Starting point is 01:06:56 like down to like, you know, I don't know. Like maybe like the one person I can think of weirdly off the top of my head is like Robert plant. It's like, Oh, you made like a fun,
Starting point is 01:07:04 like you made a fun album with Alison Kraussuss like good for you that is true it's like you've you kind of you kind of get the feeling that maybe john mayer was best when he first came out you know what i mean yeah this is a really interesting theory bridger i thank you i could be wrong no i don't think you are. Frequently, constantly wrong, but I don't know. The evidence is there. You have not shown any evidence so far on this podcast that you've ever been wrong. Because we only know you on this podcast so far
Starting point is 01:07:34 and you've yet to be wrong. So your allegation that you've been wrong in the past is one that I certainly don't recognize yet. In the last 20 minutes, I'm just going to shotgun blast of misinformation, just spreading bad news. do you want to say do you want to start what what what what propaganda do you want to say i have no propaganda i i actually feel like even joking about propaganda at this point plants the seeds in stupid people's heads and they're like well it was said aloud maybe i'll look into this i feel like the internet you know like how you plant a plant will only grow as big as the pot i feel like the brain uh can be the internet is this bottomless pot for stupidity like
Starting point is 01:08:19 your stupidity has no limits with the internet you can be as dumb as you want i feel like the internet is the plant and it can only extend as far as our brains go you know like there is we're hitting we've hit the ceiling years ago that's where the metaverse comes in there i don't understand how no in fact i literally i literally saw i think it was like i I saw a screenshot of an article about what meta was, and I literally was like, not only am I not reading this, I'm never finding out what this is. I am not engaging with meta. No, no, no, no, no, no. I am not engaging with meta or Zuckerberg.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Why do you say you will, you will, you will? Is it going to become undeniable? Because it's, yes. Don't you dare sadly not at me, both of you. Don't sadly nod at me. It's going to happen. It's going to happen, Matt. You can't put, you alone cannot beat back this tide.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And it's unfortunate. It's so sad. When I saw him standing with a little cartoon of himself and he had that stupid smile on his face and unfortunately he's got like a fat ass, I was like, get the hell out of here. It's one of the rules of culture. It's rule of culture number 35.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Unfortunately, Zuckerberg has a fat ass. He's got a donk on him. And let me tell you something. No. I don't like it at all. No, no, no, no. No, you don't want a fat ass on Mark Zuckerberg. He's got a fat ass, though.
Starting point is 01:09:46 And I remember he turned around and looked at himself as a cartoon and I said, unfortunately, he's got a fat ass and I looked at it. I'm not saying I was aroused. I'm saying I looked down. Okay? Okay, Matt, you can't deny that you will know about Meta at some point very sort of thoroughly.
Starting point is 01:10:02 And Bridger can't deny that Zuckerberg has a fat ass these are the undeniable I won't deny it but I guarantee it's hideous you know it's like milk white and like fucking pocked
Starting point is 01:10:16 like one of those deep sea fish that's like so far into the darkness that it begins to glow and like pulsate it's the outer darkness Mark Zuckerate. It's the outer darkness. Mark Zuckerberg's ass is the outer darkness. In the most white way possible. Disgusting. There's no natural selection for beauty
Starting point is 01:10:34 or aesthetics because there's no light that shines on it. He gets uglier all the time too. Not to like, well actually yes to absolutely shame because he's literally ruining the world. But I feel like every time I see him it's more Voldemort you know what I mean he is like not
Starting point is 01:10:49 aging but not in like the good way when you're like there's just something he's it's a stasis rather than just aging that's it it's it's being yeah just sort of like deferred.
Starting point is 01:11:05 I don't know. I don't like him. I don't like him. Oh, favorite Weezer album before we move on? Pinkerton. Those first two, I think. Yeah. You know, the song Tired of Sex is still,
Starting point is 01:11:18 that and Get You are two of my favorite songs ever. They're so dirty sounding. Who's singing about being tired of having sex the vocals on tired of sex are so sassy and weird for like a straight band i don't know there's something very uh i don't know and the b-sides the b-sides perfect music i mean god it's just there there now you just gotta really dig for the gems like i think there's some great songs on uh everything's going to be all right in the end decent album i felt like they were turning things around and then and then no and then no
Starting point is 01:11:57 i feel like those first two albums are like next level any uh for any type of music any type of music you put it on today it still works like it's great they're very loud they're very noisy and dirty sounding and then weezer after that i think occasionally is a good power pop band well you were you were you were in the beverly hills music video oh my god and i'm sorry i was I was. My sister and I were in it. And the Playboy Mansion, all I remember is that it felt very poorly taken care of. The grass looked terrible. Of course. There was bird shit everywhere. What?
Starting point is 01:12:34 It was shot at the Playboy Mansion. No, I know that, but I can't believe it wasn't maintained. It felt like an old person's house. Yeah. Someone who just didn't have the means to take care of it. It was very dingy. Hugh Hefner found dead. Found dead.
Starting point is 01:12:50 True. I could find him dead now if you want. You know that we announced that he died on this podcast, and then we had to do a re-record because he wasn't dead yet. And then he died four months later. And then he died four months later. But we heard that he died, announced that he was dead. And then we had to rescind.
Starting point is 01:13:08 We rescind that announcement. Wait, who gave you the information that he had died? Matt. I remember Matt finding it, like looking at it on Twitter being like, oh my God, all these tweets are saying Hugh Hefner is dead. We have to like. We have to talk about it. It's cultural.
Starting point is 01:13:24 We have to talk about it.'s culturally we have we have to talk about it we have to respond we have to what was the time span between your recording and releasing the episode i think by the end by the time we stopped recording i like looked into it for maybe two seconds and was like he's not dead but we have but we had to we had to go back and re-record and be like hey just so you guys know like we're about you're about to listen to an episode that talks in depth about the life and death of Hugh Hefner we have to say before if this is the first Peter Smith episode everyone yes but we we literally I think did a hard 15 minutes on his death but on top we said hey just kidding about the next 20 minutes people there was no way of cutting around it so desperate for a scoop desperate for a scoop
Starting point is 01:14:05 i will say last thoughts i feel like i don't ever get to talk about weezer on this podcast make believe that album that beverly holds is on has some great songs on it as well i think the production doesn't do it any favors sure it absolutely sounds terrible uh some of the songs are catchy the lyrics are horrible but i mean post2000 with Weezer, what are you going to get? Post-Green Album, it's tough. But then Red Album had some interesting things. And yeah, El Scorcho on Pinkerton is one of my favorite songs of all time. Sounds fantastic.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I feel like there was a period when Rivers' Green Album Maledroit was recording nonsense lyrics, which he got a lot of shit for. But I would much prefer the lyrics to be just absolute stream of consciousness rather than trying to sound like a teenager in love. I don't need a 50-year-old man singing about being in love and going to the mall.
Starting point is 01:14:58 You are my baby tonight and I'm your daddy. What a good song. What a good song. And I'm your daddy what a good song one good song one of the worst it's one of the best songs they have a song on that album they have a song on ratitude called the girl got hot it's so stupid it's terrible like this girl from high school who didn't look that good now she's hot can you believe it so does that make you look at all
Starting point is 01:15:26 the work beforehand and be like maybe we were wrong because they're progressing to this or do you think it was ironic I think it's just that person had a genuine mental break and I think we are watching a new person operate in the world at this point
Starting point is 01:15:41 so it's sort of like when Jewel was like follow your heart go into it operate in the world at this point. So it's sort of like when Jewel was like, Falling on hard, going to where's John? It'll lead you in the right direction. And would you say that Jewel was a different person after that? That was the inflection point? Absolutely. Can't find a job.
Starting point is 01:15:58 I forgot about Pop Jewel. It was 03, 04. Not a bad album, but it certainly wasn't Foolish Games. Sure, sure. I think it's time, Matt. I think it might be time before I can even start to get into the Liz Fair of it all.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Here's the thing. That's turning to pop the right way because Why Can't I is actually one of the best pop songs ever. And that was ironic and you could tell. I don't know. In a fun way. But in a fun way but in a fun way in a fun way where she was like i mean i can do this and wouldn't it be hilarious if i had a huge fucking pop hit that was in the trailer for every rom-com like watch when i do pop better than any
Starting point is 01:16:37 pop girl and i was there and have been and will be i think it's iconic i mean people like i remember that pitchfork rating was that like a 0.0 or like yeah they didn't get it at all they didn't get it recently when pitchfork like released that like new batch of like these are our edited these are our changed scores oh sure sure they did that for some ways or album i forget which but then with that one with that liz fair album they were like we were we were being such smug assholes no kidding yeah I know it's like I mean they got the pile on they deserved
Starting point is 01:17:09 when they came out with that they were like yeah fuck you and like Charlie XCX God bless her was like lol like no one understood Vroom Vroom like when she first started working with Sophie I remember I remember loving Vroom Vroom when no one else did and Colin Cordopassi our friend
Starting point is 01:17:26 made fun of me and I was like no this is like really cool and new and like innovative and then everyone's like no this sounds like noise I'm like you guys don't get it and I feel very vindicated Vroom Vroom is fantastic also did not it felt like just slightly ahead of the
Starting point is 01:17:42 it didn't feel like music from space, you know, it was like, this is just a new pop music. I don't know why that was so hard for people to understand. And it still is. She's getting better. She's so good.
Starting point is 01:17:54 She is really, I mean, especially like, I feel like her aesthetic lately, like in the, um, good one music video. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:18:01 she looks absolutely stunning. Like she was one of those girls where when she first came out i never really understood what she looked i couldn't like see her when i heard her and now it's like i feel like she's crystallizing which maybe which maybe was honestly the point in the beginning because she was sort of like you know computerized in a way and now it's sort of like i feel like she's crystallizing and like becoming like real to me in a way where I'm like it's really exciting because I've enjoyed her for so many years and now I feel like I'm getting like
Starting point is 01:18:30 what the POV is finally does that make sense Bo well you're late to the fucking party that's actually fine because at least I'm at the party it's better to be at the party you know what I mean sure sure okay I will say the way she walks in the good ones video it could not i mean that song
Starting point is 01:18:46 if there's no other way to walk to that song other than right extremely purposeful power walking yes it's incredible do you like to stomp i like to stomp i didn't know well what who did you think i asked and what did you not hear the question 10 other people in the zoom no no are they the guests i love to stomp good there you go the next time you see me i'm gonna be stomping i will stomp into whatever room you're in i'm a stomper and people sometimes see me on the street and will text me and be like um what were you listening to and i'll be like oh shoot i wasn't even meaning to stop but i guess i'm just a stomper. I'm a stomper too. You really are. Bridger, I would love to see you in person soon if I'm in LA.
Starting point is 01:19:28 We should do it. We'll figure something out. I'm saving all this. I should save all this end chit chat for later. It's time to turn up. Think you've seen it all? I don't think you've been a good friend to me lately. We're friends like that. Who needs enemies? You ain't seen nothing yet. Cheers to being Germanic. With the Real Housewives of Potomac. Oh my gosh, can I take this in? It's gonna be amazing.
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Starting point is 01:20:13 Dragged. I'm NK and this is Basket Case. So I basically had what back in the day they would call a nervous breakdown. I was crying and I was inconsolable. It was just very big, sudden swaps of different meds. What is wrong with me? Oh, look at you giving me therapy, girl. Finally, a show for the mentally ill girlies.
Starting point is 01:20:38 On Basket Case, I talk to people about what happens when what we call mental health is shaped by the conditions of the world we live in. Because if you haven't noticed, we are experiencing some kind of conditions that are pretty hard to live with. But if you struggle to cope, the society that created the conditions in the first place will tell you there's something wrong with you. And it will call you a basket case. Listen to Basket Case every Tuesday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Once again, we find ourselves in an unprecedented election. And with all that's happening in the lead up to the big day, a weekly podcast just won't cut it. Get a better grasp of where we stand as a nation every weekday on the NPR Politics Podcast. Here are seasoned reporters
Starting point is 01:21:25 dig into the issues that are shaping voters' decisions and understand how the latest updates play into the bigger picture. Listen to the NPR Politics Podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, friends. I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast. Call it what it Is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million I've got yous.
Starting point is 01:21:59 Some very urgent I'm coming numbers. Because, I don't know, let's face it it life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy and now here we are opening up the friendship circle to you someone's cheating
Starting point is 01:22:10 we've got you on that in-laws are in-lying let's get into it toxic friendship air it out we're on your side to help you with your concerns
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Starting point is 01:22:37 let's do i don't think so honey let's oh boy let's do it okay what's i don't think so honey it is our segment in which we each take one minute to rail against something in culture i have something damn right you want to go yeah no no why why break from tradition we're gonna go with matt first then i'll go and then we'll have bridger come in i have something um okay great let's just get right into it this is is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey sold out. Okay, so there's nothing left for me?
Starting point is 01:23:12 That sucks. I want it. A lot of the best things are getting sold out lately. So what does that mean? Like I can't participate? Sudie Green wanted one thing for her birthday, a Wendy Osefo candle. Go to the website, sold out.
Starting point is 01:23:28 S-O-L, shit out of luck. Oftentimes, some of the best pop stars will announce concerts. You go to get tickets, sold out. Unbelievable. That means you can't even go to it. There's not a seat for you. All the seats have been bought.
Starting point is 01:23:42 It's sold out. Also, the expression, they quote-unquote sold out also the expression they quote unquote sold out it has a negative connotation when sorry but that means they're doing absolutely incredible and if something is sold out a lot of people are there enjoying it hun so i guess they're doing something right are you sold out no there's a lot of you available and we can hear it so what next thing i know i want tickets not sold out i don't think so honey and that's one minute you know there's supply chain issues and i think there's things are hard to buy right now they're so hard to buy right now and the thing is i just douglas bame said matt's christmas show yes absolutely sold
Starting point is 01:24:22 out and i feel bad because now people are coming out of the woodwork being like, can I come? And I have to be like, no, sold out. And I refuse to add more dates because my throat will explode. You hate being on either side of it. I don't like the concept of it. That's why I said, I don't think so, honey. That's why I said it, Bowen.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Because I don't like the whole thing. I don't like that people can't enjoy. I don't like that I can't enjoy. I don't like that. Really what this is about is it's famously birthday season everyone knows this it was bowen's birthday the other day happy birthday by the way thank you happy birthday bowen thank you bridger sooty's birthday is is upcoming and so that means it's birthday season for me in my culture it's birthday season now because it's bowen and sudi's birthday so i went to the wendy dr wendy osefo candles website oh she's a potomac house potomac might be my next chapter yes i think that makes total sense it's very good um but
Starting point is 01:25:20 sudi literally said i only want one thing and it's a Dr. Wendy candle and it's sold out. And that just sort of got me really thinking about this whole thing of sold out. And I started to get more upset the more I thought about it. Oh, I'm sorry. Has there ever been a time when something was sold out, Bridger, that you felt so upset? You too. Last night, I went into the Los Feliz Albertsons for the first time since early pandemic. You know, the days where the shelves were empty sure right it i was genuinely an emotional experience seeing things on the shelves
Starting point is 01:25:52 i i was like oh i shouldn't start crying right now right right i moved to island park last uh august so i haven't been to that albertson since it was so jarring to be in the albertsons let's just say the hollywood albertsons okay they have a very for it they now have line uh every uh aisle is a different los angeles street this is all part of the new remodel that i was not uh present for yes uh but the last time i was in there you know everyone was rushing around. Couldn't get pasta. Couldn't get flour. Sold out. The worst sold out experience. Pandemic tings.
Starting point is 01:26:32 And supply shortage. I just had to buy my niece's Mario Kart Hot Wheels at Target because it sold out for my sister. So now I'm going to have to ship it to Utah because whoever in Utah has bought it out. Sold out.
Starting point is 01:26:47 It's a terrible thing to have. Come on. I'm so sorry. I'm on board with this. If sold out didn't exist, you wouldn't have to experience that. Right. If we just had endless things, no one would have to worry. Renewable. We need more renewable resources. It's rule of culture number 49.
Starting point is 01:27:03 We need more renewable resources. It's rule of culture number 49. We need more renewable resources. Someone get on this, God. If Jesus was always involved, they should be able to figure something out. This is so interesting because I have deliberately avoided the Trader Joe's that I went to on March 11th, 2020
Starting point is 01:27:19 before they announced New York City was on lockdown. I remember going to this Trader Joe's in Tribeca and it was the bleakest place. It was the bleakest New York City was on lockdown. I remember going to this Trader Joe's in Tribeca and it was the bleakest place. It was the bleakest New York experience I've ever had where it was just like, oh, there's hundreds of people here. Nothing's on the shelves. Everyone's panicked.
Starting point is 01:27:37 And like, this is the saddest experience I've had in this city. And then I've never gone back. And I don't think I ever will. Don't return. Yeah, you had trauma. But unless I have an experience like Bridger, where I go back and I see things, and I'm like, wow, this is what I've, this is the closure
Starting point is 01:27:53 I needed. It might be. It also is kind of a, you know, it's just a jolt to the system. You just have a little spark, like a weird emotional spark you're not going to find anywhere else. That's right. That's the place for it. If I want to feel something. Right. It's like seeing a little spark uh like a weird emotional spark you're not going to find anywhere else that's right place for it if i want to feel something right it's like seeing a dead loved one brought back to life yeah i think that's as close as you're gonna get it's going to when people die
Starting point is 01:28:16 they're sold out that's a rule of culture they are sold when people die they're sold out. They're sold out. There's no more of them. We're out of this item. Can't find them anywhere. We're out of this item. When people die, you can't find them anywhere. Sucks. Oh, no. My daughter wants one for Christmas. Sold out her grandma this year.
Starting point is 01:28:42 Anyways, Bowen, I don't have my phone because it's charging do you mind sort of timing yourself yeah because i'm and i'm actually like i don't know what when you said you had not so honey i got the chills i was so excited it's not gonna be that good i'm it's not gonna be great it's just i happen to be prepared for once that's all less excited now okay can you can you announce for me this is bowen yang's i don't think so honey and his time starts now i don't think so honey immunity tablets immunity capsules vitamin c specifically airborne you had a chance to stop this whole pandemic from happening if you really fucking worked he's pointing i don't care what kind of virus it is if if there's a cartoon man on a plane going oh they're coughing
Starting point is 01:29:26 next to me i better pop this pill it would have stopped the pandemic if if there's a cartoon man who is saying i better take an airborne you better hope that it works and guess what it didn't you had a moment you had an opportunity you did not rise to the occasion airborne invented by a school teacher yeah she's just stuck to grading papers oh my god the word so cruel you know what airborne gave us a false promise that sickness could be managed before at the onset of symptoms and yet look at where we are now people are still dying we're starting to get covid treatments thank you p, Pfizer. But I don't know. Airborne really could have stopped this whole thing from happening. That's one minute.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Go off. If airborne worked, we would not be in this situation. I hadn't even thought of this until now. You are so fucking right. If airborne was what it purported to be, we wouldn't be dealing with the worst health crisis in our lifetime it's a delicious drink but is that enough is that enough delicious drinks right so why don't i have that if it's gonna do the same thing not heal me sometimes you don't have
Starting point is 01:30:43 a drink mix you've got an airborne throw it in there where do you have airborne and not sprite what all the time i say what home all the time i just think emergency airborne they really could have stopped this i believe i put the blame on them do you think do you think they even do anything or do you think it's placebo culture i don't know i mean i took one today because i i feel maybe a little i'm just tired but i'm like maybe you're run down i'm run down but um we'll see if it if it if it goes south then i'll let you know but if it helps will you be honest will you be honest i will i will i will i promise what supplements are you two taking i'm very curious what's like a normal day supplement for you two now you want to go okay so so what i what i put in my body every single day is my prep i do um a vitamin d because i'm actually like
Starting point is 01:31:36 when i don't go out in the sun all the time i'm actually a touch vitamin d deficient which is shocking to me and then i will do a multivitamin and I do a lot of stuff. I, as of late, have been doing a lot of stuff with my skin, like, you know, that sort of thing. But that's really it for me. Skin supplements for your skin?
Starting point is 01:31:54 Or like ointments and... Like ointments and things. I'll do like serums. And I'm for some reason including it in this banner. Yeah, it wouldn't qualify as a supplement to some people. Take it back. Bowen, what about you? you what are your supplements and make sure to be really specific
Starting point is 01:32:10 that they're supplements because it's not it's yeah because matt fucked it up yeah don't be like me no uh pure for men actually makes this men's multivitamin now oh interesting it's lovely are you shitting hard um it doesn't i don't think it has fiber in it okay i just think they just happen to have this like they've expanded they've expanded their product line and um you know i'm really liking it and uh that's about it my doctor took me off prep because he was saying that it fucked with my it fucked with my like liver enzymes or something oh no so what are you on nothing and i'm just basically like not having sex it's okay he didn't give any hope for anything for renewal no i mean maybe maybe yes
Starting point is 01:32:55 maybe he was just for now let's just like monitor this and i was like okay fine but sorry might have to be like hey do you have a condom on you I don't even know how to say that word anymore. Condom? Condom? What is that? I don't know. You just wanted since 2013. What about you, Bridger?
Starting point is 01:33:11 What are your supplements? I mean, I'm asking because this morning I took just a generic vitamin. I thought these two might know something about supplements. I just don't know that I believe in them. I've been taking, I don't think these vitamins are doing anything for me. But I'm taking that. I'm taking fiber and i'm taking uh i just recently got some i can't remember what it is for like hair and nails like oh and of course i'm swallowing condoms don't do that but then you google it and of course everyone says oh it's all bullshit but i don't
Starting point is 01:33:44 want to i can't live in that world. I need to know, I need to have something at the beginning of the day that feels like I'm doing something. My vitamin D levels got better when I started taking vitamin D. I want to say that. Okay. Well, there you go. And my iconic doctor who knows who she is and listens to this podcast, I think. Thank you for putting me on vitamin D because my vitamin D went up okay it's that simple there you go but this is this is basically what it is bridger it's
Starting point is 01:34:14 like i don't know if this is doing anything for me and like crazy that you would market this product when you let's just see like it could have stopped this it could have stopped it in its tracks yes oh I think when I think about the tragedies of the last year and a half two years I blame airborne absolutely and of course that cheeto I blame that cheeto I do love imagining like all of the alternate if all of these cures that have been peddled had been replaced with airborne
Starting point is 01:34:52 if that was like what Rogan was encouraging people to just mix in some airborne no one ever goes to airborne it's like something you find at the office you feel a little under the weather and you're like sure Aaron Rodgers was doing only airborne It's like something you find at the office. You feel a little under the weather and you're like, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Aaron Rodgers was doing only airborne. He expected it to work. Shailene and Aaron were both doing airborne. Okay. I don't know. I guess I have to be down on Shailene again. The roller coaster with that one since she appeared in my life. Well, that's the story of Shailene.
Starting point is 01:35:22 She's like the dam and credit coaster. So up and down she's your she's your rivers cuomo i think it's time for bridgers i don't think so honey oh i think so too i'm so excited bridger are you ready i have so many things i could do uh but i'm gonna do one that uh we're just gonna do it and everyone's gonna be mad at me no i hope so because that you know what that means more clicks for us. I hope that this is really in the area. No, people are not going to be mad
Starting point is 01:35:48 in that way. They're going to be like, what are you talking? Actually, forget it. People need to hear this. Yes. Let's do it. This is Bridger Weininger's
Starting point is 01:35:56 I Don't Think So Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey, the dead bird I found in my backyard this morning. Oh. I'm sorry, but if you're going to be a bird in my
Starting point is 01:36:06 backyard you can be maybe dying and i can nurse you back to health or but you need to be alive and singing i found a dead bird which i then had to pick up with a garden spade what do you do i don't have time for a bird burial and also my dog's gonna find it if I bury it in the backyard. So, what am I doing? I'm walking to the trash can and dropping a bird in the trash. You can't... Maybe this is more of a, no thank you, sweetheart, but I do not want...
Starting point is 01:36:36 No one should have to deal with a dead bird in their backyard. It's unacceptable. And the fact that I had to go through that this morning is unheard of. If another dead bird ends up in my backyard then I have a problem is there a toxic gas what am I dealing with I don't think so honey
Starting point is 01:36:51 and that's one minute and I think what you're dealing with is toxic gas in your backyard I might be or a cat brought it back maybe a raccoon strangled it to death there was no sign of real trauma so i don't it feels like the bird dropped from the sky into that bird was sold out by the way
Starting point is 01:37:11 that bird was completely sold out girl i would have done the same thing i would have dropped it in the trash and it's fine i felt bad not burying it but i don't know it was never gonna be buried can i say something it it literally you probably handled it with more care than it would have been handled by nature i don't know would have had that thing decomposing on the side of the road and that's facts it could have been a coyote dinner you know but you think that's better than being plopped in a garbage can dying of natural causes in a gorgeous man's backyard in los angeles backyard i would rather be when i die devoured by coyotes than put in a trash can well i'll put that out there i want that on record well you and i do not have that in common put me in the damn simple human trash can why don't yeah yeah yeah i want to sell out
Starting point is 01:38:07 in my bed as an old man that's how i want to sell out i want to sell out of natural causes we're not using sell out as a replacement for as an as a synonym for dying sold out not available honey check later can i just say something else that i wanted to say and then as the synonym for dying. Sold out. Not available, honey. Check later. Can I just say something else that I wanted to say and then you don't need our permission. Do you want to do another I don't think so, honey?
Starting point is 01:38:32 Do you want to be the first person to ever do two? Absolutely not. Okay. I want to have a nice adult discussion about something that is insidious and very subtle in advertising right now and on the restaurant menus everything we'll put the
Starting point is 01:38:46 in front of things the cob salad my breaking point was the other day i was walking through target and i saw the golf pant breaking point goal target doesn't have the golf pant anyway have you noticed this have you seen yes the burger it's like this bizarre like trying to be definitive but kind of casual because it's not the yeah it's the the the lounge chair it's lies oh it's lies it's lies to the bone to the mirror ingenuous we have to stop it drives me out of my mind keep an ear out for this someone has referred to someone else I don't know who but someone was like they're amazing they're the article and I'm like
Starting point is 01:39:29 what? excuse me? the article? they're the one you know so I think that's a way of saying they're so exceptional that they're the article I'm like oh my god no no you know what the bone? you love it I can see your face right god No, no You know what, The Bone? You love it
Starting point is 01:39:45 I can see your face right now, your smile No, I reject it You're seeing a visceral response As I quote it back to you And I think this is what's happening With the adding of the Golf pant, it's like, wait What is this obsession with
Starting point is 01:40:02 There's one, and this is it and you're and you love it and you recognize it as the golf pants right the platonic version yep of you know the whatever the fried chicken sandwich i mean oh the article though that is going to be coming for that's going six months from now just just just out for it. And both of you just stay safe out there. I think we can agree that Bridger is the article. Bridger Wendiger is the article. How do I become the article? You don't even have to try.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Because you came in here today to last coach. You were the article. You are the number one and we want people to listen to the podcast i said no gifts the i said no gifts the i said no guests the podcasts so do you have a problem with megan the stallion sounds like you do no it's a double e okay it's a double if it was the me's a double E. If it was the Megan Stallion. No, we'd have an issue. Everyone would be extremely confused.
Starting point is 01:41:10 Maybe that's a nice next step for her. Yeah, maybe you're right. A little switcheroo prince status. Right. Yeah, that's right. The Megan Stallion. Yes. Bowen, what an episode of The Last College this was.
Starting point is 01:41:23 Bridger, thank you so much for coming on this was a delightful conversation thank you for having me I'm sorry to almost you know to just bring up a second complaint outside of the dead bird no but that I did feel like if there's ever going to be a platform
Starting point is 01:41:39 that we can take that trend down this is the place where it begins and we did it sold out everyone listening sell out the in front of things trend down. This is the place where it begins. And we did it. Sold out. Everyone listening, sell out. The in front of things. On menus, on catalogs, all of it. We don't want that.
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