Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Joyful Joyful" (w/ Constantine Rousouli)

Episode Date: May 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart podcast. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. Those were some callers from my call in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept,
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Starting point is 00:02:15 Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Look man. Where? Oh I see. Wow. Bowen look over there. Is that culture? Yes. Oh my goodness. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh my goodness. Wow. Las Culturistas.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Before we got on, I said, Las Culturistas. Like, as if we had to snap into it. I feel like we've never had to really hit the dials before in that way, but we were coming off of like a spirited discussion about what we will never tell. We will never tell what we just told.
Starting point is 00:02:47 It's actually really culture number nine. We will never tell what we just told. And I'm also in my like literal morning show bag right now. You are warmed up, chatterbox. You are doing a great job. You look so good on that TV. Thank you sister. Something about those cameras is really, I gotta say I look pretty good too. You look so snatched and you. Thank you, sister. Something about those cameras is really, I gotta say, I looked pretty good too.
Starting point is 00:03:05 You looked so snatched and you wore like a blue moment. Yeah. Blue is the warmest color. Specialty of the culture number 10. Blue is the warmest color. How has it been so far? You just finished day two of five. I'm having the best time.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Isn't it wonderful? I told Matt this, we checked in yesterday. I was like, how was it? He was like, it's great. It's so fun. And I go, I like totally get why people do this. I get it. This is a nice gig. It's so much fun. And by the way,
Starting point is 00:03:32 the sound dude who's an icon loves you. Oh, I love him. And your beloved, get this, Bo and Yang, beloved in 30 Rock. It's actually really cool. It's your number 11. Get this, Bo and Yang, beloved in 30 Rock. And you know, 30 Rockefeller Center is in the heart of one of the greatest cities in the world, New York City. And there has been an off-broadway musical.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You're never gonna believe this. I really do feel like I'm doing the morning show. You're never gonna believe this. No, no, you're never gonna believe this. You need to, there has to be a list somewhere of like little filler phrases for talk shows in general, but especially morning shows where we're like, we're never going to believe this.
Starting point is 00:04:08 Have you heard about this yet? I found myself doing it today. Coming up, we have a cooking demo from, no, no, no, no. My segments were makeover. Loved that. Oh, we're getting a makeover on Friday. I love the makeovers. Yeah, this is going to be fun.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It's so sweet. And then Guy who showed us how to properly use a plunger. That's actually really good. And you know what I asked him? Guys, listen up. You can wash the plunger with your toilet water. What? After you plunge, make sure you flush, obviously.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Put a little bit of bleach or whatever toilet bowl cleaner you have in there and then just like you just dip it in, kind of rinse it out. And then that's all you have to do. I always got so stressed out after my shit covered plungers would come out the toilet. I'm now thinking, I just wanna apologize. I just moved out of my apartment
Starting point is 00:04:50 that I had been renting from one Matt Risch. And I just wanna say, apologies, dude. That plunger's covered in poop. You could have rinsed it. No, I couldn't have, because I didn't. I didn't know, I didn't have you here to tell me what to do. Morning TV is so important.
Starting point is 00:05:08 But I could never talk about poop covered plunger on morning TV. You know what I'm saying? This is why I'm so happy to be here. I feel like I can finally breathe. Because I'm with my sister and this is not morning TV. Although people do listen to it in the morning. Can you imagine? Listening to us in the morning? No. I would say, well I guess maybe if you want to be to us in the morning? No.
Starting point is 00:05:25 No. I would say, well I guess maybe if you want to be like shocked into the day. I mean get the fag off the airwaves. I'm not listening to that. You know what I almost did today is my I Don't Think So Honey. I Don't Think So Honey that this podcast has become popular. I just feel like- Save it.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Save it. Maybe I will do it later. Do it later. Because then people are like, why are they screaming during I Don't Think So Honey? And I'm like, babe, you're joining us in progress. It's in media res. It's in media res. We scream during that part of the podcast
Starting point is 00:05:51 and during a lot of the other parts of it too. Here's what I scream for. Oh, wait, I just cut you off. I'm never going to believe this. This was an off-Broadway show in New York. Can I say you literally did not cut me off. I feel like I diverted. Well, your feelings aren't facts, bitch.
Starting point is 00:06:03 OK. Hey, Trump. Anyway. That bitch. Okay. Hey, Trump. Um, anyway. Hey, Trump. Hey, Trump. Your feelings aren't facts, bitch. That's a call. Hey, Trump. Your feelings aren't facts, bitch.
Starting point is 00:06:11 That's real close. Remember it's 12. Hey, Trump. Your feelings aren't facts, bitch. Watch that be the headline. I would love that. Yeah, I mean. Should Lost Coach start a feud with Trump?
Starting point is 00:06:21 We have to move to Ireland like Rosie? Mm-hmm. Well, listen. So what do you scream for? I scream for this off-Broadway show that's been in New York for a few years now. It has been truly a community-building cornerstone for theater, for theatergoers, for people in the community,
Starting point is 00:06:37 for tourists from all over the world. My own mother saw this show. And I would never take my mom to any Broadway show. She slept through Hamilton. See, I don't get that because it's so loud. It's a loud show, but we went on a Sunday after an SNL, and we were all tired. Lin-Manuel, this has nothing to do with you.
Starting point is 00:06:56 This has nothing to do with you, Lin-Manuel. So you did amazing work on Hamilton. It's actually really close, remember, 13. Lin-Manuel, you did amazing work on Hamilton. Has nothing to do with you, that his mom fell asleep. But listen, I think I know which show you're talking about, and that show is Titanic. And I know that because, well, our guest is not only one of the original stars of it, but also the co-creator, co-writer.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And I feel as though I have to hearken back to the very first time I saw our guest, which was at La Poisson Rouge, in a iconic production of Cruel Intentions, the musical, Unauthorized, which also starred Amanda Schectman. She was playing Sarah Michelle Gellar, and our guest was playing Ryan Philippi. And one of the first things I ever saw was your bare ass.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And now he shows his ass every goddamn night. Out in public. But no, this is like truly a moment in time because we saw this show, Titanic, and we were literally took to the mics and just let everybody know. And I've been so proud to see what it's done. I just saw it in the West End. It's in Australia. It's in Canada. It's like, it's all over the place. I mean, this is a true success story.
Starting point is 00:08:07 It's now an Olivier Award winning musical. Our guest is an Olivier Award winner. Drama desk, Lucille Lortel. Come on, all the ones except Tonys until they get their shit together. Except Tonys until they get their shit together. But they kind of just nailed it on some of the nominations, I gotta say.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They did, we can talk about that. We can talk about that. He's so wonderful. What a funny writer, performer, or shit together. But they kind of just nailed it on some of the nominations. They did. We can talk about that. We can talk about that. He's so wonderful. What a funny writer, performer, talent, friend, traveler, world traveler. We're talking about this. Always around the world. Always around the world with his hot little friends.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Everyone please welcome to your ears, Constantine Razuli! Oh my God. First of all, lol to that introduction. I am so gooped and gagged to be here with my girls. We forgot to say the big news, which is that- Yes! Oh my god. That Titanic, you can see it in New York until June 15th, and then do you want to tell them what's so special about those final weeks?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah, hot off the press, everyone. Come on, press. Marla Mandela and I will be coming back into the show. Wow! For the final two weeks. And if we, you know, sell out lots and lots and lots of tickets, Yes. Marla Mendel and I will be coming back into the show for the final two weeks. And if we, you know, sell out lots and lots and lots of tickets, maybe we'll pull a Phantom of the Opera and extend for another six months.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Who knows? You're willing to say that on this show? I don't know. We'll see. Maybe, you know, all of these last cult people who listen, we can figure it out. There's now so many readers, KDs, publicists, and finalists. And I think that, Ken Kiles, you have an opportunity here. You have a big opportunity.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yes. Because how many times did you do it in the new space, the bigger space? The bigger space, like a year, a year. Yeah. Because it was like half a year, it was like six months at the old UCB space. Asylum. Yeah, you guys know the asylum, you know, in the basement of a Gristides, which was wild, just mold rats and... It smelled awful.
Starting point is 00:09:47 It was disgusting. Really bad. But you know what? It was like our favorite time. Yeah. Where were your dress... Like where did you guys do changes and what was the dressing room situation? Behind a curtain, literally. Or in like a closet.
Starting point is 00:09:59 But there's no space. No, there's absolutely nothing. It was those two rooms and we split all the boys in one and all the girls in one. Right. And then there were the guts, like those gray brick hallways, not brick even. It was just like those, but those were the smelly parts.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That was gross. Because there was always an inch of water on the floor. Oh, absolutely. It was the actual Titanic. I was like, oh, this is very on brand. Let's go here. Weren't there like, Gristides basement specific jokes in the original show?
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yes. We, at the end of the show, Marlo would say, thank you all for coming tonight in the basement of a Gristides. And then we had to switch it, you know, when we left. When you moved spaces.
Starting point is 00:10:34 When we moved to the Daryl Rolfe Theater, which is in Union Square. Yes, I knew that. Fuerza Bruta. So I went, Fuerza Bruta. Oh, oh my God, I just, the Fuerza Bruta shook. Oh my God, the water.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Fuerza is watching. The ghost. The ghost of Fuerza Bruta! Oh my god, I just, the Fuerza Bruta shook! Oh my god, the water. Fuerza is watching. The ghost. The ghost of Fuerza. What is Fuerza Bruta? I don't remember, all I remember is taking a gummy and I was so... Can I curse? Yeah, come on!
Starting point is 00:10:56 It's iHeartRadio! I was so fucking high that I looked up and remember they had this water crazy thing? I never saw it. Okay, well anyway, there was this immersive crazy, no one knows what it is. They're up in the rafters in this water thing and I thought I was A, drowning, B, panic attack, C, immediately left and got food.
Starting point is 00:11:16 And got food. You gotta go. I put myself to bed because I was like, I've got to get my ass to. I've gotta get the fuck out of Forza Bruta before I drown. Before I drown and die. Meanwhile, I'm on the floor. Like, get it together, Queen.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It happens sometimes. I remember one time I was too high in the pool and I had to get out because I was positive I was going to be attacked by a shark. That's these gummies. Babe, I think that was meth. That was meth. Sorry, babe.
Starting point is 00:11:39 That was a meth gummy. That was a meth attack. With a Vyvanse pill nestled inside. Ooh, a little rainbow sprinkle. Y'all don't fuck with water though, but y'all are so tied to water in so many ways. From being Greek. From being Greek. Sister.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Ah! Make out. Honestly. Wait though, what do you mean? I do think I'm a Pisces person, you know what I mean? Greek. You're definitely water. Also you're a Titanic. I'm Titanic water I mean, I'm an Aries so she's fire as hell. Is that cusps? No, I'm full Aries
Starting point is 00:12:10 Okay, full Aries. No, um cusp is the 21st, which is Pisces Aries. Yeah, okay, cuz my sister's a 21st So she's she's a cuspy bitch. Yeah cuspy, but we love her. Hi Ren. Hi Ren You cuspy ass shady bitch. You and Ren are the Sibs? Are the Brazilian Sibs? She's two years older. Best friend. Amazing. You kind of give little brother. Oh I'm the child baby. No yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Also I mean it's perfect. It's Aries. I'm the baby of the zodiac. She's a monster. Is Aries the baby of the zodiac? Yeah you can either look at it as like baby of the zodiac or like the super like grandmother of... Who's grandmother then? Who's on the other side of Aries that it's supposed to like be like the end of the world?iac or like the super like grandmother of? Who's grandmother then? Who's on the other side of Ares that it's supposed to like be like the end of the world? I don't know. But that's Pisces. Is it?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Oh yeah. I'm last. So you're my grandmother. I am the wise grandmother. Hey G-ma. Hi baby. I love you baby. Hi baby boy.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Thank you so much. So proud of you. You've done well, I die. I nearly died. Death by grandma. God death, it's so awful. And so why did you want to capitalize on it with Titanic? On death.
Starting point is 00:13:11 On death? Because you know what? It's going to be a brutal death when we leave New York City. And that's because you people didn't want to buy tickets. So you're not closing because it's not buying tickets. No, I'm kidding. I mean, listen, we've lasted three years, which is in these in Dem streets now and in Dem times. Can you believe that a little tiny ass off-Broadway show could literally survive three years of a pandemic into Trump?
Starting point is 00:13:38 It's just absolutely mind-boggling that we still have been here and we've now gone all over the world. And I have to say, I have to say I have To say and I always say this it's literally because of you two I'm sorry, it's true. If you're okay, let's assume that's true. What is not true is that it's both of us It I think it does squarely fall on man No, listen to me both of you. All I I know is, and we're both going to take this, we saw the show and it was like, it just reminded me, it actually literally inspired me. Because I was like, A, I'm not dragging what goes on on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:14:16 In fact, I think it's been a great few, last couple of years. But I also think that the influence of that show and how much joy it brought and how much real comedy it brought, as well as like the incredible music, obviously, of Celine Dion, it just feels like it was a joyful idea that then became a joyful process, that then became a joyful performance, that then resulted in all this joyful discussion and consumption of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Well, I mean, listen. Joyful consumption is a front runner for title of the app. Thank you, thank you. Joyful, joyful, subtract two. Go into it now. Really good. It was easy to talk about. You guys were so wonderful.
Starting point is 00:14:55 I mean, granted, like I had known of you. We had met a couple of times and then you guys were just so lovely and you really like championed this little tiny baby project in the bottom of a Mercedes and you really like championed this little tiny baby project in the bottom of the Crustides. And you got you put the word out there. So like we are so grateful. I am so grateful.
Starting point is 00:15:10 I love you. I mean, I just want to reiterate that to the listeners because it's really true. Like you have people who champion you and like push you forward and you guys are so incredible at that and always paving the way for other people. And it's not just one-sided. You are just uplifting. And I am so inspired by both of you and I love you to death. Honey. And that is my I don't think so honey.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Oh my god. A positive I don't think so. Honey Mitch. Sorry it's true. I mean I always tell you but I really need everybody to know that like everybody has their own path and like people can be nice and help each other out in this crazy ass business in the world. Everybody, just be kind and be nice. Yeah, absolutely. And it really just goes a long way and we are, you know, we're just, we love you and
Starting point is 00:15:54 we're so thankful. Well, we have always, I've seen the show, I can count on two hands now the number of times I've seen it, but I think, like, across the world I know losers. Nothing to do on the weekend. We were in London for how many days We had to see what it was giving yeah, you have to know it's giving our babies are giving it I love really good and vocals the vocal I mean everybody's vocals are insane in the show like truly unbelievable, but like the vocals in London. I'm like you Monsters know how to sing. Yeah yeah it's giving Olivier award-winning and
Starting point is 00:16:28 nominated performers all up and down the cast yeah but an iceberg bitch won Olivier yes clap for iceberg Layton, our Layton Williams. Layton is truly unbelievable yeah I mean the whole cast is unbelievable I love them to death. I just saw them I was in London last night and got back I believe world traveler will travel Paris London, Milan. Yeah Anyway, but yeah, the London productions unbelievable. It's not the criterion go see it if you're in London And that's ongoing that is running running until as of now I think January
Starting point is 00:17:05 of 2026. So work, work, and now it's in Paris as well. Work. Unbelievable. You just went to the theater in Paris? Went to the theater in Paris. The Lido theater. It's at the Champs-Élysées in that fierce area. Fierce. Oh my god. Didn't I go to Crazy Horse? Oh my god. Can you talk about that? Crazy Horse. I think we should go. You guys, no, no, no, no. You have to go. We're going to France next month. Okay, well period. It has to be first on your list.
Starting point is 00:17:29 It's one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life. Wow. The women are, I'm gay as hell. The women are the hottest things I've ever seen. I get it. Truly, like stunning. Tits, good tits. Tits, but like not fake.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It's just like natural gorgeous bodies. And I heard that from their tip to their navel They all have to have the exact same inches, but they can have like little like kitten heels and like I know Sorry, Beth. Sorry, Beth. You're half an inch off, baby. Hit the road Little you can choke Beth. Wow You'll never get this job. But you know, it's it's unbelievable. But it's so precise in the lighting. It's the art. It is art.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It is art. It's like Picasso. I'm like, what the fuck am I seeing? It is crazy. I love the most unreal horse I've ever seen. Now, do they bring out a horse? No, I wish. Look at that horse.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Look at that horse. Look at that horse. We should see Cowboy Carter in Paris and then go to Paris. We are. Yeah, make it a horse day. What do we have to do? We were told someone was getting the tickets.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Matt Whitaker is supposed to buy us tickets. Whitaker's gonna go? Okay, whatever. Yes, okay, so our plan. You tell me everything. So we're gonna be in Cannes from the 15th to the 19th because we're promoting our culture awards, which you have performed on.
Starting point is 00:18:42 We won. You won. Best indoor live performance. Indoor live performance, yep. Went to Titanic two years ago. Best night of my life, by the way. That was so much fun. That was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:18:51 You guys, if you can ever get to a live taping, live taping. Live taping. Live taping. Well now it is like a live taping. It is a live taping. It is a live taping, I know. Isn't that crazy?
Starting point is 00:18:59 I felt like it was like the gay Super Bowl. It was so fun. I came out and they were like. Yes! Yes! And I was like, wait, you have, came out and they were like, Yes! And I was like, wait, you have A, no idea who I am, but I love this. And I was eating it up.
Starting point is 00:19:10 But they did know. They did know. Our audience was just as excited for Titanic as they were for like when Julia Fox came out. Exactly. You guys, I felt it. I mean, my pussy fell out. I was like, oh my god, this is what it's like to be Lady Gaga in front of everybody. There were at least 200 people in that crowd
Starting point is 00:19:27 who have seen you be Fiyero. Who have seen you be Link. You know what I mean? Have seen you on Cool Intentions. Wait, literally, let's talk about this. So you've been Fiyero and Link. And Link. And Jack.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And Jack. And Ryan Phillippe. And I'm gay as hell. Yeah. Looking for a husband. And that means that you can do it. You can do it too. I mean, gay actors work.
Starting point is 00:19:46 First of all, let's talk about that. Fiero, which is Jonathan Bailey in the movie. Then we got Link, who's Zac Efron in the movie. Then we have Leo DiCaprio, I've heard of him, who's Jack in the film. And then we have Ryan Philippi. That's a bang off, if I've ever. Bang off.
Starting point is 00:20:00 That is a demon twink. That is a demon twink's dream come true. Like Lollapalooza. Listen, I don't take it for granted, honey, okay? It's wild. Come on. It's actually crazy. And you are tying it all together. You do it so well.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Yeah, the mentally ill broke ass version. Cool. Stop. Holler at me, at Constantine Rizzulli on Instagram. They will and you know they will. They will. They holler. They holler. You come up on my hinge a lot because it's like, these are the hot guys. Wow. They're like top, top shelf. And you don't say hello? up on my hinge a lot because it's like, these are the hot guys.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Wow. Or like top, top shelf. And you don't say hello? How dare you? Well because I'm like, first of all, someone I know, it's like, okay. No, I know it's so weird. It's weird and also.
Starting point is 00:20:33 It is a weird walk. It's a weird thing because some people then take it, because you've done this before. Too far. When you like see a friend and you're like, hey stupid, I see you. Totally. And you're like, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And then it stays at that. Yep. Then there's other people who take it too far and they're like, wow, actually Matt is really into me. Yeah. And then you're like whatever and then it stays at that. Yep. Then there's other people who take it too far like wow Actually, Matt is really into me. Yeah, and then you're like wait actually that was a joke. I'm I know Eksicle and then you have to I know you can't even be like too clear about it You can't clarify by the way. Um, I I am attracted to you, but I don't think we would be a good man It's like but why would you like why would you give you a call later? Hey?
Starting point is 00:21:04 I know that we just did this crazy bit on Hinch, but I'm really calling to say I'd be down. I get less, I get less demisexual as I get older, because I just value my friendship so much. So do I. You know what I'm saying? So do I. But it's hard, it's a hard thing to figure out
Starting point is 00:21:20 when you're a gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends, because of course... Because you're like, it's really hard to be a gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends because of course... Because you're like, uh... It's really hard to be a gay guy with fun, cool, attractive friends. It's so hard. Look at us. What I mean is like, it's a difficult thing mentally because it's like you sort of get in your head of like, okay, well, why not?
Starting point is 00:21:35 Well then it's like, and friendships are important. Of course. You know what I mean? They're number one. It's like I said to a friend recently, I was talking about like a mutual friend of ours and I was like, yeah, I don't know. I just had kind of a thought. And my friend goes, I was talking about like a mutual friend of ours and I was like, yeah, I don't know. I just had kind of a thought.
Starting point is 00:21:46 And my friend goes, you know what that is? Friendship. Oh, that's actually okay. And I was like, okay, yeah, doesn't have to be a thing I do gymnastics in my head about. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's like, yeah, I have a friend that I'm like a little attracted to and it's my friend and I can have that boundary. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:22:02 How long, what's the tradition of you and Jake and Gus and like those pals traveling together? My besties. Your besties, you guys have so much fun. The crew, you guys are always having a blast. I know we are, it's just they're monsters. They're truly absolute monsters and I wish them nothing but negativity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 That's a shout out. Why you go on the show? That's a shout out to my girls, my hermanas. We have our thread as sisters. We're all getting tattoos that my hermanas. We have our thread is just sisters. We're all getting tattoos that say hermanas, but like one's getting her, I'm Ma, and I think Gus is Nas. Nas?
Starting point is 00:22:32 LOL. Can you believe that? He's like a Nas super fan. And then when you put it together, you're like, you guys okay? Someone's taking a side in the battle against Jay-Z. Please welcome to the stage, her. Her. Yeah, they're the best.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I mean, they're my brothers. Like they're the brothers I never had. I've known Jake for like 20 years now, which is insane. We met on Facebook because everybody said we used to look alike, which we do. When we have the same hair, we're like very twinning. Twinning, yes. But back in the day when we were actual twinks,
Starting point is 00:23:01 people would stop me on the street and be like, are you Jake Wilson? Go big blue. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And then they go to him and they're like, are you Jake Wilson? Go big blue. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And then they go to him and they're like, are you Constantine Vesulli? And he was like, who is that? And then he found me on Facebook and he was like,
Starting point is 00:23:11 whoa, I think we should go out for a drink. And then he, MySpace, stroke. Then he Facebooked me and he's like, let's go out for a drink. And I'm like, okay. I was like, everybody says we look alike, doppelganger. I met him, we go to, wait for this, Bourbon Street on 46th Street. Remember that place?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah, back in the day. Dating in that area. Wild. A vibe. I used to live on 52nd and 9th, like above therapy, which is hush now. Wow. Good luck with my project, go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I mean, like literally go to sleep. Go to sleep. No, can't, no. Too much thumping and hush. That's how we met and I was like, LOL, you are rich and we'll never date. And then years later we've crossed paths again. So wait, you went on a date though initially.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Initially and I was like, haha, this is fun, cool, bye. So there was no smooching? Nothing and then two years later, I'm on tour with Legally Blonde in LA. Who are you in Legally Blonde? I was Nikos, that one and then I years later I'm on tour with Legally Blonde in LA. Who are you in Legally Blonde? I was Nikos, that one and then I wore her after. So yeah. Wow, you're doing it all!
Starting point is 00:24:10 Connie. This is theatrical man vibes. Wow. Yeah, with no career. Flying my way to the middle. Well then I was like, wait, okay, so you guys meet up two years later. Two years later, my roommate at the time and other very good friend, Courtney, she was like, hey, my best friend from college is coming and I was like, yeah, was like wait, okay So so you guys meet up two years later two years later my roommate at the time another like very good friend Courtney
Starting point is 00:24:27 She was like, hey my best friend from college is coming and I was like, yeah cool Whatever he can stay in our apartment and she goes well, there's no bed So like you have a king-size bed suit, I guess he's gonna have to stay in your room. I was like Courtney. That's Literally and then she was like I was like who is it and she's like, oh, it's Jake Wilson I was like, are you kidding me? I was like that guy who's like my doppelganger I'm gonna be again since last time two years. Okay. Okay, then she was like, I was like, who is it? And she's like, oh, it's Jake Wilson. And I was like, are you kidding me? I was like, that guy who's like my doppelganger. I was like, absolutely not. And how long had it been again since the last time? Two years.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Okay, okay. Then she shows up to LA, like a bat out of hell, comes into like, into the fucking Oakwood suite apartments. And I was like, hun, what is happening? And then, you know. Besties. Besties ever since slept in my bed. We'd like turned, it was like one of those movies.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And I was like, I think we're gonna be best friends. I think we're gonna be best friends. And then we were like, kick all, like, kiki gaggle. It was the best, it was the best ever. And then Gus came in, you know, 10 years later and just wreaked havoc. Yeah, sure. Yeah, y'all, three of y'all are...
Starting point is 00:25:16 The best. But there's like the right amount of chaos there from each of you. Oh, beyond. You know what I mean? Beyond, I think like, yeah. It's a good buddy system three. Great. You know what I mean? I can never travel like, yeah. It's a good buddy system three. Great. You know what I mean? I can never travel with anybody else. There's three of us, that's it.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Wait, but did you feel seen by White Lotus? Oh. We were just in Paris and London, lol. Talking about this. And I brought them as my dates to opening. And we were like, we are the basic bitches from White Lotus. And I was like, which ones are you? I was like, go.
Starting point is 00:25:44 We just did that last week with Joel Kim Yeah, we cast ourselves. Who are you in the three? I'm I would probably be Michelle yeah, you're Michelle. I'm Michelle. I'm Michelle too. I'm a Michelle and then who are you? Who are you? Um, I think I'm Um, I think I'm Carrie, hon Yeah, I think Joel is just so Leslie bib Big Trumper that joke Got a fan until Kim booster TRU MP more like JKB
Starting point is 00:26:27 He's gonna he's going to punch all of us in the face. Yeah. I can't like it. Yeah, we'll love it. Yeah, honestly, we'll love it. Totally. Punch me. Yeah. Punch me.
Starting point is 00:26:34 I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now, and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world
Starting point is 00:26:53 as a fake gecko therapist, and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend and I found his pizjar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose.
Starting point is 00:27:40 And I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian. God, I've been through so many things that at this point, I would rather not feel than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle. All right, we're ready. I am Khloe Kardashian. Khloe Kardashian, everybody. Khloe Kardashian.
Starting point is 00:27:58 No one understands how it's... I'm not just a TV show. There would be times that I was like, I don't even want to go out to the grocery store because I feel like I know what they're thinking about me. And that was scary to me because I've never been in a dark place for that long. You've always taken care of others.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Have you discovered anything about why you've seen yourself take on that role in so many relationships in your life? How do you even find the courage to trust again? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or we'll find out soon. And this wife writes, My husband received a Facebook message from a woman saying that he is the father
Starting point is 00:28:51 of a five-year-old. Whoa! At first, he didn't remember her, but then he realized they had a one-night stand right before we started dating. Wait, but do we have proof he's the dad? Well, the author says there's no confirmation the kid is even his son,
Starting point is 00:29:03 but the woman from Facebook has a meeting with her lawyer soon. I think she's going after our money. If the kid is actually my husband's, she would be entitled to it too. So what's a husband gotta say about this? This could be his kid. Well, apparently he broke down
Starting point is 00:29:15 in the middle of the living room apologizing, but this is what scared me. His first instinct, if the kid is his son, is to pay the child support, but not be an active father in the kid's life because, is to pay the child support, but not be an active father in the kid's life because he only wants a family with me, his wife. Oh, this is a mess. To hear the explosive finale, follow OK Storytime on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or
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Starting point is 00:30:34 Listen on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you dating now? Mm hmm. It's on hand. Jingle as hell. Jingle as hell. What do you want? What's what's on the list? What do you hell. Single as hell. What do you want? What's on the list? What do you want? What do you want? I need to do a pros and cons list
Starting point is 00:30:48 and I feel like I've been told it's like the thing you're supposed to do and I still haven't gotten around to doing it. So give us yours. Pros, be an actual human. Be a legit person. I need you to do the fucking work. Get up every day, meditate, go to therapy.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I mean, know who you are. Have a great relationship with your family and friends and just like respect yourself and respect people, love people, care about people. I don't know, have something that makes you wake up every morning and like, I'm grateful for, I want gratitude. I want a funny person.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I want a kind, respectful human who gets it Yeah, just don't play games like these these fucking gays are wild They're wild and it's always like what's what's the you know around the corner? Yeah, it's like, you know what? How about you just look in front of you? Yeah, and get to know a human and like pull back a fucking layer instead of sitting there and being like, mmm You're really cool for the moment and then But I'm completely looking around the corner. Well, that's like all of LA, which is why I moved back. Well, that's why, oh, I had to leave.
Starting point is 00:31:48 You had to leave. You're a little incensed about this. I am, I'm pissed. Yeah, no, okay, so talk about this. Have you been given the runaround? Oh, for years. A million times, yeah. For years, the runaround.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Or the ghosting is actually, can we not ghost anymore? Why would someone ghost you? Because I feel like people, they think that they know what they want. They think that they're ready for a relationship or they're ready to open up and they have, it's all bullshit. I know.
Starting point is 00:32:13 It's face value, it's a facade. It's like, okay, I get it. You're insecure and this is how you go about doing that. But you should also be a respectful human and say, I don't know, it's communication. If you're not feeling it, if you're asking me out and you're pursuing me and you've DM'd me and slid into my fucking DMs and found my phone number and sent a letter by stork,
Starting point is 00:32:34 and then you have the audacity to not even respond after we go out on a date and it was actually good and you're telling me these things like, wow, this was incredible, you're really amazing person, I'm so happy we met and then a full-on ghost At least grow the fucking balls. We are too old. We are tools You can easily I I would respect you one so much more if you came to me and said hey that was incredible Yeah, you're an amazing person. I just don't think we're a match Yeah, I would love to be friends and if not, you know, I'm happy we got to do that.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And I'd be like, you know what? Incredible. Thank you. And I have to say, like, I think people are doing it more than they were, but I get those messages and I'm not upset. Me neither. Oh my god. All I feel is fine about it. I'm like, wow, that's awesome. Maybe we could be friends. I do have a lot of friends. But still, I'm like, wow, that's awesome. Maybe we could be friends. Of course. I do have a lot of friends. I have a lot of friends, but still, I'm happier honest and open. Totally. Instead of, well, that's also coming from people
Starting point is 00:33:28 who actually, you know, are not gonna freak out and go insane because we're not insecure. Totally. So it's like, you do the work, whatever. I would love to, I'd rather share that. And I feel like the other people who are ghosting are so insecure that they're probably afraid of the other persons that they're gonna yell at
Starting point is 00:33:44 in confrontation and I Get it, but like you will be better off. Mm-hmm. Trust me because I'm gonna see your ass out of fucking party Absolutely all over New York City and or all over the world. Yeah, so why make it awkward? That's what sucks Sometimes the thing that chaps my ass is like how small the gay community is. Oh, yeah, where it's like Yeah, I dated this person and I did not well or whatever. I'm dealing with this and someone will say who is it? I'm like, you don't know him. They do who is it? And then I say the name and it's like, oh, yeah This person did that that that that and I'm just like I'm in hell
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, because I'm just like it makes you feel like you're in like a rat maze You know what I mean? Like no matter what, you're gonna end up at a dead end. Or you're gonna run out of, which is a crazy thought. But I do think it's worse in LA than New York. My bit is there's like six million gays in New York and 33 in Los Angeles. So broadening scope in terms of dating has become important to me
Starting point is 00:34:41 because I kind of do want ultimately my partner to be someone that's like my partner. Like I don't really want to hear about their history. You know what I'm saying? Totally. Yeah, because there can be a hundred gays in a room. And if 99. And 99 have fucked each other.
Starting point is 00:34:57 99 have literally have all fucked each other. 1000%. That's real culture, number 15. There can be a hundred gays in a room. And 99 have fucked each other But only takes one to believe in you and that's about to Cooper well, yes No, wait hard lunch with Gigi though hard launch with Gigi dispel the rumors. They hard launched their Relationship on one of those caps or she posted a carousel and it was number case. He's in the carousel We just talked about
Starting point is 00:35:26 You good And it was number 18 in the carousel. We just talked about this. Carousel, carousel. Did I say it weird? Hey, you good, sis? You good, sis? Carousel. You find out I'm having a full blown stroke. Both of you. I had strokes today this morning. I mean, God forbid, but literally. You just got off a plane.
Starting point is 00:35:36 We just did. I'm still jet lagged as hell. Yeah, well, I understand. We just did the best carousel. At Epic Universe. Epic Universe in Orlando. You have to go. It's in Celestial Park. Can't wait. Hermana should go to Orlando. Hermana should go to Orlando. Orlando!
Starting point is 00:35:54 Why haven't you been in that show? I originally auditioned for it to be, what's-his-face's standby. Andrew Reynolds. Andrew Reynolds. Wow. And Andrew actually got me the audition. Oh, I love that. And then I went in but it was, or he had told him, he was like, you should really see Connie for this. Standby. Andrew Reynolds? Andrew Reynolds. Wow. And Andrew actually got me the audition. Oh, I love that. And then I went in, but it was, or he had told him, he was like, you should really see Connie for this. But it was like back in the day when I was so young and it was the time when they weren't giving scripts out to anybody.
Starting point is 00:36:14 I don't like that. So I had to go in at 10 a.m., learn that crazy song. That's so stupid. And then they're like, bye, see you at noon or two when you audition in front of the whole team without knowing any material. And then they're like, bye, see you at noon or two when you audition in front of the whole team without knowing any material. You're just like, have fun, like sight read this and then here's the side and just cold read.
Starting point is 00:36:31 I was like, are you kidding me? And then they were like, you're not the right type of funny. And I said, are you? You're not the right type of funny. I go, I am comedy. It's like you become Fanny Bryce. Yeah. I'll show you.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Yeah. Pratt fall. I go, but like why would you, why would you, see that's a devastating thing to be told that you're not the right kind of funny. Yeah Why would you see that's a devastating thing to be told her that you're not the right kind of funny I know is not sad do you that was the Book of Mormon? Yes, we missed if no people did miss of course, but did miss It was to Andrew's was incredible all of them are incredible fucking high. I am a high baritone. Okay I'm not going to pussy pop these notes and have a mental breakdown.
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah. 8 shows a week on stage. I mean like, I believe I'm not going to do that. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's too, I'm like also, can we lower the keys for men? That's an I don't think so, I'm going to get to later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Yeah. The jig is up. We all do not have to be screaming fucking like mixy bitches. Bowen just said no. Mixy bitches? No, no. Bowen is a counter tenor. No, I'm not. I know.
Starting point is 00:37:32 First of all, you said something so pressure on the other day, which is being born with an AMAB voice is a curse. It's true. It's true. It's true. Did we make that a rule of culture? We did not make that a rule of culture. It's rule of culture number 15.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Being born with an AMAB voice is a curse. We're off to the races on rules today. Absolutely. The rules are coming in hot. Can I say something though? Someone commented and I just, I made the mistake of reading the comments on the sketch I did with Gaga
Starting point is 00:37:56 where we sang Wonderful Tonight. And someone was like, Bowen's only a scream singer. I'm like, okay. Please, everyone, how dare you? Can I just pull back the curtain and say that I am proud of myself for just being present with one of our great rehearsers, Lady Gaga. She wanted to run that song a bajillion times and we delayed rehearsals for it because I
Starting point is 00:38:18 was like, no, we're getting this right because she looks at me and she goes, I think it'll be funnier if we're really good at it. And I said, absolutely. I always think that about musical comedy. I think it'll be funnier if we're really good at it. And I said, absolutely. I always think that about musical comedy. If it's so much funnier. I agree. And then we had to find, we auditioned
Starting point is 00:38:32 like seven different keys and I somehow kept my shit together next to Stephanie Germanotta. And I was like, I'm with you wherever you wanna go. And whatever, I'm with you wherever you wanna go. And whatever, I'm not like, I'm only bringing this up because the keys are hard and any AMAB voice that has to adapt to a key is doing a lot of emotional labor just for themselves in the audience. And I'm just saying that Gaga was fucking incredible.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Why am I bringing this up? First of all, that was not- That was not- Scream singing. Easy and it was not scream singing. I actually was impressed by how effortless it felt. Like you were kind of just like tossing it up there and I was just like really proud of you. But the last time I felt that way
Starting point is 00:39:11 that I was like tossing it up was at Chromatica Ball. Well, you want to know why? Cause when you're on Mushrooms, you're the best singer in the world. It's actually a look at number 16. When you're on Mushrooms, you're the best singer in the world. Did you hear that? Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:22 What's so your, would you say counter baritone? No, I'm a high baritone. High baritone, sorry, sorry. a high baritone high baritone Sorry, sorry. I mean I can like what's a fierce mix though. My mix is unbelievable But yeah, but like everybody's like screaming I know and they're like, can you full voice that I'm like, how about you full voice? Your your own my foot in your ass. Yeah, have you shut up? I wrote a lot of my Christmas music when I was 27. And you can tell. You can fucking tell.
Starting point is 00:39:47 What do you mean? Because like, lube for the sleigh, my song. The bridge is a belted, like, ooh vowel on lube. It's just like, it's crazy. Totally, totally. And you know what's funny is it's like, I didn't realize, I didn't know how to sing my own music until I started with a voice coach and
Starting point is 00:40:06 It broke it all open for me now I like love going there like warming up your voice like good. Do you stay on top of your vocal health? I do I mean yes, and no I mean I feel like after doing eight shows a week as is Insane and you're just like mentally and physically drained So you're like I need like a month or two off like between gigs or like whatever. But yeah, I mean, there's definitely those moments where you have to be on it. Like I'll always check.
Starting point is 00:40:30 It's like a sick and sick and twisted like space that you wake up and you're like, hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah. You wake up every day and you're like, I have to check. Even it's like three months the show's done. And you're like, oh, I'm still checking
Starting point is 00:40:42 to see if my voice is there. It's just a mental, it's crazy. Sure. We call it musical theater mental illness. But it's like three months the show's done. And you're like, oh, I'm still checking to see if my voice is there. It's just a men, it's crazy. Sure. We call it musical theater mental illness. But it's wonderful. It's not mentally, it's not mental illness. It's no, it's. But you've got to stay on it for sure.
Starting point is 00:40:53 You're keeping your chops up. Yeah. I mean, you don't know when, you know, Broadway is going to call and say, hey, you're on. It's time to shred, bitch. Time to shred, bitch. I mean, this literally just happened after pandemic Do you remember like the height of Broadway coming back and everything was canceled? Everybody was getting kovat for the eighth time. I'm trying to get these shows back open and blah blah blah
Starting point is 00:41:15 I hadn't done wicked for seven years And I got a phone call It's Christmas Eve like two days before Christmas Eve and I'm back in Jersey at my mom's and I'm at the gym Cuz you know gotta get the workout in before the Christmas So I go to the gym up the street and I get a phone call from my stage manager from Wicked who I hadn't spoken to And forever Mary Beth Abel who I love and she was like she calls me Stan Constantine If you guys didn't catch that
Starting point is 00:41:48 So then she literally calls me Stan, Constantine. If you guys didn't catch that. So then she literally calls me, she goes, Stan, MB, she goes, what are you doing? I was like, what are you doing? She's like, well, what are you doing? I was like, I'm at the gym. She's like, so, do you wanna come back into the show tomorrow night? I was like, tomorrow night? I was like, what? No, not even to be Viero.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Cause I first started as the understudy. And she goes, in your original track from 12 years. It had been like 12 years, but I hadn't been back in the show for like 7. And I was like, ma'am, you want me to put that skirt track on? And you want me to like, I don't know, lift a bitch, stage bitch stage right four in the dark and be a cog in a wheel and She was like, yeah. Yeah, basically like you remember it right? I was like, are you kidding me? She goes you'll be fine I marched my ass to that theater got back into my old costumes because the best thing about wicked is these motherfuckers have your costumes in Crazy ziplock bags in a warehouse stop call they just call an assistant and they're like,
Starting point is 00:42:45 get Connie Ruscioli's costume from circa 2010, blah, blah, blah, shoes and all. Literally in a beautiful package. Oh my God. Just laid out on this dressing room table and you're like, wait, LOL, am I gonna fit into this? Cause I was a twink back then. You did.
Starting point is 00:43:00 You know what, I have a fat ass and a bad attitude and I went right into it. Wow. A great attitude. Great attitude. No, it was great. But it was crazy. I was like, this is psychotic. Speaking of, you know, just getting random phone calls and having to be ready.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Well, oh my God. You're describing two impossible situations. One involving sight reading, which is, that's an item of face-off, honey. That was crazy. Truly, I don't read music. So I just like, I'm one of those. I don't even understand what they, like, I don't read music, so I just like, I'm one of those.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I don't even understand what they, like my thing is like, okay, so, and probably this is a little bit the deal, but it's like, do you want it to be good or do you want it to be not good? And maybe sometimes they want it to be not good so they can just like, like invalidate people, but like, can you speak a little bit?
Starting point is 00:43:41 What the fuck is auditioning for musical theater? I did it twice and It is little it's hell they give you like 87 fucking packets of material and like ha ha learn this in one day And you're like wait a second I have to now back in the day when we started I had to hire a pianist get yeah Put it down on a stupid like voice Which is money by the way. Casio. Yep. And time.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Money and time and like, you know, going to just a higher penis is like at least $100. And I'm like, cool, can you just play this for me and like plunk this out so I can learn it within four hours? I mean, it's crazy. They give you the stuff and then they want you to be as off book as possible. So it's like you're epically going in and failing.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So, that's such a setup. And then if you're like, wow, I'm really good for this part. I remember being like, oh wow, this is really something that I'm dying to do and I'm really good for it. And it's just written musically a little bit too high because the person who did it in the fucking workshop or the reading has a higher voice than you. And there's this thing in musical theater
Starting point is 00:44:42 that the higher you sing, the better vocalistist you are and we have to stop that narrative Yeah, and it makes me crazy because like well all these little like meow mixy girls who are like screaming tits They're like she's the best voice in the world. I'm like she sounds generic as hell. You sound basic I got it. Like no text a lot Mighty Mouse. I don't want to hear that Like where's like give me a Bernadetteette Peters, give me like, give me a legit Audra. Give me a... Give me like Carol Channing. I don't know. Give me a fucking actor again.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Like give me somebody who can act the fuck out of something and then be able to sing and then put it in their key. So that's why when I wrote Titanic, I said I never want anybody in this business. I'm looking at you, okay? To come in for me if I ever write another musical again. I want you to... I want them to feel as comfortable as possible because I never want that feeling of like, I am so right for this, but I just can't sing it. What key do you want it in?
Starting point is 00:45:38 I'd be like, hey, you're incredible. I want you. So what is going to be so comfortable for you eight shows a week? I want you to be able to sing that. I want you. Yeah, so what is gonna be so comfortable for you eight shows a week I want you to be able to sing that. I could cry. Literally I was like And people were like I've never been in a room like this before and I was like, I know I've been there And I've had like full-on Crazy panic attacks after being like I you know I fucked myself and I'll never get seen for this casting director again And they saw the worst of me because I was too high and I cracked and like then you just go through a
Starting point is 00:46:06 Spiral and then you hate your instrument and you're like no no you should love your instrument. Oh, absolutely. This is what you were like Blessed with yeah, so like I don't know I want to show you the actual true self of my of you know my voice and my talent so like having a fucking key Yeah, and changing it is not a big deal. No having a fucking key and changing it is not a big deal. No. I don't think so, honey. Wait a minute. That's like, round of applause.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I mean, that was really important for everyone to hear. I remember like, Henry is so, and like these musical directors, they can do it. They can, but they have heart. But it's their ego too. They're like, no, it's gonna sound better like that. And they just, then they fight you. And I'm like, hey, actually, to the naked ear, sorry babe.
Starting point is 00:46:47 No one's gonna know the difference. If you lower this a half a step, no one's gonna know because in your voice, in your voice, whatever key is gonna be your climactic belt or the climax of the song is going to sound unbelievable because it's in your rash. And it's in context of what the song has been. And it's in context of the song and it's in context
Starting point is 00:47:06 of your talent and of your gift. It's like, hello, no one knows if I'm hitting a fucking A or a D. Unless they're like those people with like perfect pitch that are like, that wanna tell you about it. The rate to better. I don't need to know. Yeah, I don't need to know. Can I say something?
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah, I don't need to know. I don't need to know that you have perfect pitch. It's actually Rilakkotra number 17. I don't need to know. Can I say something? Yeah, I don't need to know. I don't need to know that you have perfect pitch It's actually really culture number 17. I don't know That's great and that's on period on period and culture Found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.
Starting point is 00:47:50 It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples
Starting point is 00:48:08 of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head
Starting point is 00:48:27 and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose, and I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian. God, I've been through so many things that at this point I would rather not feel
Starting point is 00:48:52 than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle. All right, we're ready. I am Khloe Kardashian. Khloe Kardashian, everybody. Khloe Kardashian. No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show. There would be times that I was like, I don't even want to go out to the grocery store, because I feel like I know what they're thinking about me. And that was scary to me, because I've never been in a dark place for that long.
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Starting point is 00:49:50 my husband received a Facebook message from a woman saying that he is the father of a five year old. Whoa! At first he didn't remember her, but then he realized they had a one night stand right before we started dating. Wait, but do we have proof he's the dad? Well the author says there's no confirmation
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Starting point is 00:50:16 Well, apparently he broke down in the middle of the living room apologizing, but this is what scared me. His first instinct, if the kid is his son, is to pay the child support, but not be an active father in the kid's life because he only wants a family with me, his wife. Oh, this is a mess.
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Starting point is 00:51:35 Find it on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We should ask the question. Yeah, Constantine Rizzoli, what is the culture that made you say culture is for me? The formative culture that made you move in a cultural direction. The formative culture, okay. It gave me many answers.
Starting point is 00:51:54 There's many. Yeah. I just will always remember, I mean, clearly TRL. Oh! I saw Carson Dilley this morning and I'm so gagged. Like, he just walks around today and show like, that's what he's doing now and I'm like, that's Carson Dilley. I and I'm so gagged. He just walks around today and show like, that's what he's doing now. And I'm like, that's Carson Dilley.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I know, that was like for me, I remember coming up, rushing home, getting off the bus, throwing my backpack on the counter, being like, oh, here's a sandwich, Ma. And then grabbing like a diet Coke and sitting my fat ass on the couch with a bag of chips. Watching to you. You had a bad effect then too.
Starting point is 00:52:24 Oh, I was a fat kid growing up. Oh really? Yeah, she was a husky mama. Yes! Husky mama! We shopped at the husky section. I love! So you drank a Diet Coke eight chips
Starting point is 00:52:33 and like turned on TRLC and whoops, I did it again, it was number one again. Yes! And then I'd be like learning choreo, putting in the VHS to be like, oh my God, oh my God, the video's gonna play. And then my sister would come in and then she would annoy me and I'm like, shut up, the video's playing, it video's gonna play. And then my sister would come in and then she would annoy me
Starting point is 00:52:45 and I'm like, shut up, the video's playing, it's Britney. Oh, like Britney. You and Jake are besties. I mean, yeah, same person, that's sick. I love it. Like he's number one Britney fan. Of course. Like I'm not gonna take that.
Starting point is 00:52:54 You can't even try. You can't even try. I mean, she'll literally blow me up. Blow you up. And throw poop at my face. Oh my God, okay, so TRL. TRL. Like, don't you miss that? A baboon. Oh my god. Okay, so
Starting point is 00:53:08 Baboon on the carousel TRL rocked TRL was like That let me have it. Yeah, truly. Let me have it and it like shaped everything. I mean, I wanted I'm you know Highlights and I went to this local CVS and like had this whole hair dyeing fiasco in my bathroom. Who was the person that inspired that the most? Was there like a cuz there was JT doing his like frosted curls. I think it was I think it was it was Nick Backstreet Boys. Nick Carter. Wow. That was the first concert I ever saw was Backstreet Boys. It's a good one. Great one. But they let me have it. Yeah, they sing.
Starting point is 00:53:46 They were fantastic. They sing down. Backstreet Boys. And Choreo. And Choreo. We have to explain something to, cause I guess there are younger listeners who don't understand the impact of Backstreet Boys. Oh, the boy bands.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Like it was, it was girl, it was girl, girl bands, boy bands. Like you guys have no idea what it did to us. First email I ever sent from a computer in the business center of like some stranger's apartment building that we went to for like a family dinner in Canada was to the official Backstreet Boys fan site account. Like, hi, I want to say hi to Nick Carter. I love you, this is Bowen.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And my first email I ever sent. You sent a little gay email? A little gay email to Nick Carter. He really was the one. He was the one. And then as you get older. Although Kevin. Kevin.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Kevin can get it. Kevin, you can get it now. Howie, I met backstage at SNL 50. The sweetest guy. You know who I wanted to fuck bad? Who? AJ. Oh, he's bad boy.
Starting point is 00:54:41 AJ? Could get it. With his little beanie and his goatee and his tattoos. Also the vocals on AJ. Yeah. He was kind of the sound of that group. It was not Nick. It was not Nick.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Nick would float in with his little nasally tenor. Well, it's like Justin Timberlake. Yeah. The same thing. J.C. has the voice. Voice. J.C. taught me everything I know. Same. Kevin was mysterious.
Starting point is 00:55:05 Oh no, I'm sorry, I need to correct it. It was not Howie that I met backstage, it was AJ. And AJ was so sweet. Yeah, AJ is a doll. AJ's a doll, but Kevin, I think. Kevin is hot. Kevin's gorge. Like stunning.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Stunning. Like hasn't changed at all. Yeah, Backstreet Boys, TRL. Was there? Backstreet Boys, TRL. Ricky Martin also. Ricky. Let me have it. Who I... yeah. He's...
Starting point is 00:55:27 Did he do something to his face? Because she looks unbelievable. No. He looks amazing. I think he's just always been beautiful. No, I mean he is... He's a vibe. The vibe.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Yeah. He was my vibe. Live in La Vida. Fucking loca. Fucking loca. Punched me in the clown. Yeah. So hard back in the day.
Starting point is 00:55:43 And I could only go to Coconuts and or Sam Goody if you remember that. Sam Goody. Where we had to, I don't know, go to a place to receive music. Everybody, you know, Jen A. Yeah. Who, you just get it on your phone. I had to wait and I would be pissed. I would go to every like CD store to like try and get this album when Ricky Maury came
Starting point is 00:56:03 out. And it could be sold out. It is like, just so you know, like, was streaming now? It's like, oh, I can pre-save it. There's like leaks early. It's like, no. No, you had to wait weeks. Truly, I remember like needing desperately to get there on the day. Oops, I did it again. Came out with the album because I was like, it might not be there for a week.
Starting point is 00:56:21 It's going to be gone. You had to wait in the line. You had to drive to Borders. And yeah, the CD wouldn't be there. You could go to another, a Sam Go there for a week. It's gonna be gone. You had to wait in the line. You had to drive to Borders and yeah, the CD wouldn't be there. You could go to another, a Sam Goody, a fucking. Yeah. It was. Coconuts.
Starting point is 00:56:32 What's, is that a Jersey thing? I think that's a Jersey thing. Or maybe it's Tri-State. Do you remember Coconuts? I don't remember Coconuts. What's Coconuts? Same thing, it was a CD store. I love that.
Starting point is 00:56:39 It was crazy. But yeah, I would be pissed. And the only thing that I, my scroungy little hands got up what got on was Ricky Martin's live in the Vita Luka on cassette. So I had it then wait Okay, then you guys we gotta wait it when the cassette ended you to rewind Flip it. Yeah Having to flip it and reverse it wait and then the other side was like the Spanish side
Starting point is 00:57:00 So I was like, okay now I'm gonna learn Spanish If you think I'm not off book on No Me Ames by Jennifer Lopez and Mark Anthony, I have news for you. I'm kinda not. But I was at one point. Guys, now that's comedy. That's called reverse.
Starting point is 00:57:13 No me ames, porque piensas. It's, no, it's everything. It is everything. Also my favorite Ricky Martin song is a ballad. Which one? She's all I ever had. That one. Guys, vocals, it is 12.55 and we are singing down.
Starting point is 00:57:31 I'm not singing. Y'all are. But you could be. I could be. Yeah, I gotta lube up. But wait. She's all I ever had, that was everything. Titanic, a jukebox musical for Ricky.
Starting point is 00:57:40 For Ricky. Would you do a jukebox musical again or is that? Yeah. No, but you would wanna write your own. No, write your own. Yeah. No, you wouldn't want to write your own. No, write your own. I mean, I'm not going to write my own music. We'll do the book. Yeah, we'll do the book for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I mean, yeah, MGM, Fox, everybody come to us. We have gurus. I mean, just hire us. Wait, can I ask a question? How can Titanic be on the West End but not Broadway? Good question. Yeah. But I don't get it.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Tell us. I don't know. I think here's the thing. You know,'t get it. Tell us. I don't know. I think here's the thing. You know, you, there's different models. I would say there's different models for every show. You know, we were this random jukebox musical that came out right after pandemic. So I think our producer was, you know, trying to keep it small in the sense of like, let's build the brand and not go too hard too soon.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Yeah, yeah. You know, and then it started like really picking up speed and momentum. And I think we had an opportunity in the height of it. Like when we, when Marlon and I were gonna leave, it was like June of 2023. I mean, it was like, I looked at it in the audience and it was like, you guys again.
Starting point is 00:58:41 And like, that's it. You guys again and again. And it was like, you know and like And it was like you know Margot Robbie and Matt Bomer who is the hottest person I've ever seen Matt it's um We never met backstage because you left and I was pissed but you made me so nervous and nobody ever does so I love you He's pretty beautiful. Yeah, gorgeous and and then it was like, you know Lauren and then Lauren was there I know RuPaul and just like all these people and you're like looking out in the audience
Starting point is 00:59:11 You're like what the fuck is happening? Yeah, like this was we never expected any of that to happen So you're sitting there and you're just like, okay maybe this is gonna transfer and this is gonna go to Broadway and I Just you know, I don't know what happened. I, you know, there's never a, it could possibly happen again. I think we were fighting the parody of it all. You know, and people, especially in the business are like,
Starting point is 00:59:36 oh, Snooty, this is Broadway. We don't do parodies. And I'm like, I know it's, but it's a new comedy. And clearly the world loves it it and we just want an Olivier Which is like the Tony's of London. Yeah, and for you know, it's bringing theater back and I'm like, can't we just like have fun again and Just laugh and we don't have to always learn lessons when we go to the theater And it doesn't have to be this like high brow crazy story about mental illness and
Starting point is 01:00:06 pills and I'm like My psychopharmacologist and I Yeah, yeah, exactly. So it's I mean That was my Alice Ripley. Lauren, really good. Lauren. Hello. Hello. Really pertinent now. So I just think there's room for everything. There's room for everything on Broadway and I wish sometimes the big wigs of Broadway
Starting point is 01:00:27 didn't look down to a comedy that is just like, oh, this is a dumb comedy. Meanwhile, comedy's harder than dramas, you guys. 100% meanwhile, Oh Mary is like a Pulitzer Prize finalist. I mean, look at, I mean, example, Cole, I am so inspired by them. That was one of the craziest things and most incredible things I've ever seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 01:00:48 That whole cast, everything. So it's like, yes, cool, fun, crazy, weird, new work is allowed. Yeah, can't help off. We're allowed to play and clearly it's working. The people want it. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. Hopefully maybe we will one day get there. But I think
Starting point is 01:01:06 right now it's just we kept it as an off Broadway show and I think it just sat there. And I think we were building the brand and it just was like our little baby that just is waiting in the wings. That also made it cool. You know what I mean? I feel like it's like there's something about it that felt like you got to, especially when it's in a tiny theater. It is a cool underground thing. It was a cool underground thing. Yeah. If you saw it, it will always be a cool underground thing. It was a cool underground thing. Yeah, and if you saw it, it will always be a unicorn.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Yeah, it was a magical unicorn. Like the, like whatever, like this is the, what Catherine O'Hara says about movies, it's like a great movie's great forever. Like a great show like that is literally great forever and you are, it is literally around the world. Thank you. You should be so proud.
Starting point is 01:01:41 That's so beautiful, like to have an extension of you, like I always, this is the stupidest, dumbest comparison that I'm gonna make. And I'm looking in the camera. I know how dumb I am. Okay? I know. I don't need you to tell me.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I hate that this podcast is popular because I had people telling me how dumb I am. I know that for years. What I'm gonna say is, it's like when you book a pre-show at a theme park and you perform hundreds of times a day, and you don't even know it. Yep. Yep. Titanic is every night around the world, sometimes twice a day, it's making people happy.
Starting point is 01:02:13 You are writing and performing all the time without even doing that. And that is such a beautiful thing about art and theme parks. Thank you. Honestly, that is the best compliment ever. I am so- Like I was watching, I went to Universal when we were there. I was there the day before with my sister. And they have the Born Stuntacular,
Starting point is 01:02:33 which is yes, a Jason Bourne stunt show. And Julia Stiles does the pre-show serving jacket. And Julia Stiles serves this pre-show so hard. And I'm like, she has to know, Julia, you have to know, you're giving it to the girls dozens of times a day, every 20 minutes. You're up there giving the jacket of a lifetime. My favorite part of it, and then we don't talk about this anymore,
Starting point is 01:02:57 is she's dead in the movie series. Like, spoiler alert, Julia Stiles is fully dead. She gets blown up and literally lays in the street like this. And then in the pre-show, spoiler alert, like Julia Stiles is fully dead. She gets blown up and she gets blown up and like literally lays in the street like this. Uh-oh. And then in the pre-show she goes, Jason believes I'm dead. And they show her death like, and I'm like, cause you are!
Starting point is 01:03:16 Canonically she's alive though. I guess now, so if you were a huge fan of the Julia Stiles character in the Bourne movies, she's alive! She's alive and well. Also, Bring Back, Save the Last Dance. Can I tell you something? Yes. I think that might be our next musical.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Why not? Okay, you're coming up with that idea right now? I'm coming up with that idea right now. Because you know what they're literally doing? 10 Things I Hate About You. I know. Also, you know what else is gonna be good and I'm gonna throw it out there?
Starting point is 01:03:41 Center Stage. Uh-huh. Full, full parody of Center Stage. Really good. That's niche, it's a niche market, stage. Uh-huh. Full, full parody of center stage. Really good. That's niche, it's a niche market everybody, go watch it. Go watch it. Niche is over, it doesn't matter, it's everything's niche. It's everything, yeah, it's everything.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It was, that shaped me back in the day too. Talk about culture. Okay, so let's go back to this, TRL, center stage. Is Zoe Saldana's like, sort of like, entrance into the mainstream? The mainstream. We like, where were we like, didn't we put it on on Fire Island one year, we just like had it playing in the background where we were like making music. It's always tell Daniel's like sort of like entrance into the the main so the mainstream We like we're like, did we put it on on Fire Island one year? We just like had it playing the background where we were like making and like Donna Murphy like come on
Starting point is 01:04:11 I was just talking about this with Christopher Wheldon who is a very good friend who's you know our girl from MJ You know ballet dancer to the stars And we were chatting about it and he was just like yeah, he worked on that movie Told me all the tea And we were chatting about it and he was just like, yeah, he worked on that movie. So he told me all the tea, which we'll talk about after. Honestly, oh yeah, that's probably such good stuff from back then. Unbelievable. Wow. Unbelievable tea. Zoe Saldana's beginning of her career was literally center stage and then crossroads.
Starting point is 01:04:37 When was she pregnant in it? In crossroads. Was she? Was she the pregnant one or was that Taryn Manning? Taryn. Think about that trio. Kim Cattrall. Oh my God. Taryn Manning? Taryn. Think about that trio. Kim Katral. Oh, my god. Taryn Manning, Britney Spears, and Zoe Saldana,
Starting point is 01:04:49 and Kim Katral as the mom. That's Britney's mom. I mean, that is crazy. I need the world history now. And then Coyote Ugly. This is like the year of movies. Oh, my god. Coyote Ugly is something I watch whenever it's on.
Starting point is 01:05:00 It also has one of the hottest sex scenes ever if you watch the extended version. OK, wait. Do you watch the extended version, okay? Wait, do you remember that my favorite scene? What what's your favorite scene from coyote ugly? I'm about to blow your damn mind. Um is it? Wow, I don't know. What is it? No, it's mine is the sex scene. No, I'm asking you what yours is No, mine is the sex scene. It's like his name is Adam Garcia. He was also a Fiero. He was in London Yes, this guy is he is the hottest His name was Adam Garcia. He was also a Fiero. He was in London. Yes. This guy is, he is the hottest guy ever.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Beautiful hair. He was beautiful, beautiful, like dark, like black hair. Honestly, kind of looks like Matt Bomer. Yes. But like a little bit more like... No, he had curly like those curly locks. I almost used the word supple. Supple? Locks?
Starting point is 01:05:42 Yeah, this one. I've seen him. Everything. Show the camera. Show the camera. Like get into Locks? Yeah, this one. I've seen him. Everything. Show the camera. Let me see, show the camera. Like, get into it. Hold on, hold on, I gotta zoom in.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Okay, yeah, and there was a whole scene where he did the strip tease. This is the best scene. Body. Yes. Yes. What's the best scene? My favorite scene, do you remember when she-
Starting point is 01:05:56 Wait, do you remember seeing it? I've never seen it. Okay, Bowen, we're literally gonna go. Sorry, Tyra. We're gonna jack off. Yeah, go home now. Sorry, Tyra. Sorry, Tyra. Sorry, Tyra.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Do you remember when she goes and brings her cassette tape to the label? Yes, I do. And it's that fierce black woman who's sitting there and she's like, on her phone, and then she gives her things. She goes, hey, I'm so sorry. Can I leave this for you? And she was like, honey, let me tell you something. My daughter tells me that she's a bisexual and that she hates me more than anybody else
Starting point is 01:06:24 in the whole motherfucking world now Let me tell you how can I make your dreams come true because I am Zion to know monologue for the stars My god part of the whole movie tick tock let me have it. I need to find her my best my Unbelieveable tells me she hates me more than anyone else in the world. Yeah Now let me tell you now tell me how I can make your dreams come true, because I am dying to know. Where is the Oscar for that?
Starting point is 01:06:51 Isn't that, it was the best monologue I have ever seen in a movie. That's like one of those like doubt style like actress pops in, lays in, runs out. She needed an Oscar nomination. She needed an Oscar nomination. It was my, I mean I still remember it. That was what, like 25 years ago From that era though from this era that we're specifically talking about Yeah, like our brains being like truly spongy in a way where it's like now
Starting point is 01:07:16 I can put on movies from that time or movies that I was watching at that time like Greece It'd be a fuck off book off book. Yeah like Grease. Off book. Off book. Off book. Off book on Clueless, off book on like, Bring It On. Oh my God. Bring It On is huge for me.
Starting point is 01:07:29 You can quote anything from Bring It On. Truly. Anything. We met Big Red, I know we've said it before. I'm still Big Red. We did meet Big Red. We literally, Big Red. Who's also on TV, the Teenage Witch.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Yes, she was. Yep, that's right. Lindsay, she came up and she, we were at Coachella, we were leaving, I think, Charlie XCX. Charlie. This year. This year. This woman comes up and she's so kind and she goes, oh my God, I just want to say, I listened to your podcast with my daughter.
Starting point is 01:07:55 She's right over here and the daughter is so cute and waves. And then we're like, oh my God, thank you so much. And then she goes, she goes, I played Big Red and then we bring it on. And we both scream. Does she look the same? What does she look like? She looks the same. So you're like, girl, we know it's you. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:08:09 In fact, I think it was a little dark or whatever, but I'm so happy she said that. Yes, me too. Because the second she did, I literally like... You're like, I sizzle. I scorch. And now I pass the torch. The ballots are in. And one girl has to win.
Starting point is 01:08:22 She's perky, she's fun. And now she's number one. T-t-t-Torrance. T-t-t-Torrence. The whole thing. We've done it on this podcast before in these very chairs. We are gay as hell. I have to tell you, she was so nice. And then I had this like lovely DM exchange with her
Starting point is 01:08:39 after what I really, cause I didn't realize in the moment that she was also on Sabrina, which I watched. Religious. I wore that show out and then bring it on. My first like meet my fantasy boyfriend. You kind of, you're Harvey. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:55 You're Harvey. Where's Harvey? Where is Harvey? Most handsome boy. You there, Harv? Well, you know what happened to Gennady Green? Nessa. Nessa Rose.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Also she was, I think she understudied Elphaba. Yes she did. We were very good friends in LA. Love Jennilee Green, yes. Love. She is a talent. She's an icon. Her, Libby.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Libby. Libby. But do you remember when she was in, what was that? Oh my God, I'm having a blank. Off Broadway show with John Hill and Michael Arden. Oh. And Natalie Joy Johnson and oh my god This is a great group. I was there today. I would buy like the two gay boys in Catholic High School and they fall in love Oh my god. What is it called?
Starting point is 01:09:36 I like that as a title wicked wicked. I like that as a title What is this feeling? I can't remember what that name is. So sudden and gay. Anyway, but Jenna was in it. She was leading that. She absolutely. But vocals down. Yeah, vocals down. I will sometimes watch like a comp, I'm sure I'm with the right people to share this with. I love it, Alphaba.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Just a compilation of Wicked Witch of the East, which I think is the best. Shoshana, sorry, Shoshana's the best, period. That's my girl. I will say, Jenna Lee Green gives you a big, full belt run for her money. Oh, she does. Jenna's incredible.
Starting point is 01:10:04 The Wicked Witch of, I love it. Jenna's incredible. The wicked witch. I love it. It's the best. Why isn't it on the album? That's why I don't think so, honey. Slime tutorial is of, oh wicked witch of the east. That is an explored territory that I have not. Wait what is?
Starting point is 01:10:17 Slime tutorial, that's unexplored territory. Oh yes. Did that count as a slime tutorial? No. Yeah. What's slime tutorial? It's just like boot it's like bootlegs, cuts of things, but it's like Christmas haunting you.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Oh, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. I might be, I might be misusing the term. I like it though. I like it though, let's use it. Let's use it. Well, speaking of slime, this was Nickelodeon culture. This was also around that time. TRL Nickelodeon, this was 1999, 2000. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:45 This was the millennium. Yeah, this was the time. What was Sabrina on? Sabrina was on Nickelodeon. Nickelodeon? Or was it Disney? No, no, no. Was it ABC? Was it part of TGIF?
Starting point is 01:10:54 It was TGIF. Yeah, it was. TGIF went so hard. Oh, I know. I couldn't wait. Because what were we going to do on a Friday? Let's go to our friend's house and no way. Not me.
Starting point is 01:11:02 No. I would get on the bus on Friday and my mom who had just walked me to the bus I would look out the window because I was this is a weird thing. I was really afraid of the bus I used to get I have anxiety attacks about getting on the bus and not having anyone to sit with So I would get on the bus through middle school and high school I'm not not through high school through elementary school in middle school This was the thing so I'd get on the bus and look out the window like terrified like me like Dying shaking and my mom would go To remind me that it was coming on later
Starting point is 01:11:32 It would make it would make me feel so much better because I knew that if I just could get through school I could watch TGIF. Oh boy meets world boy meets world Topanga That hair those tits Boy meets world. Topanga. Topanga. That hair, those tits. Gorgeous. Can you imagine a woman named Topanga? Yeah, literally like, get out of here. Get out. I love that.
Starting point is 01:11:52 I love Topanga. Yeah, Topanga. Like, who thought that was a good idea? So obviously someone genius. Topanga Canyon. Topanga Canyon, I'm sure they lived in Topanga. Do you think she was named after the canyon in which she was born?
Starting point is 01:12:04 Absolutely, where else are they pulling that from? Yeah, where are you pulling that? Because think she was named after the canyon? I'm sure we're also are they pulling that yeah, where you pulling that cuz it was a slut Canyon no Korean Topanga that was There were the first power couple really were and then Dawson's Creek came after My god all of it and then Buffy and Charmed would you a buffy gay? Oh my god was I buffy? So when Sarah Michelle Geller came to see the show were you gay? Oh my god, was I a Buffy gay? So when Sarah Michelle Gellar came to see the show, were you dead? Oh my god, I'm so, I was so dead. I mean, and Sarah came like three times.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Oh really? That's so nice. Yeah, Sarah, Selma, Reese. Did Ryan come? Yes, Ryan came. He was the best. Oh, of course. He was so, the most lovely person. He came up to me after and he was like, way to keep the Valmont name alive, man. And I was like, I'm going to make out with you now.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I'm literally obsessed. Oh my God. He's so wonderful. Sarah is so wonderful. I only hear the best things about Sarah Michelle. Sarah Michelle Gellar is, it also looks exactly the same. She's having like a renaissance. Yeah. She's the best. I love her so much. You know what I would like to see?
Starting point is 01:13:02 I know they're doing a new season of Buffy. I would like to see SMG in the new season of White Lotus. I feel like Sarah Michelle Gellar. She would let you have it. Would tear up some. Absolutely. Because people forget how dramatically good she is. Oh.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I feel like people don't remember that she was giving you versatility. I'm sorry, Cruel Intention, she was like what? 21? Iconic. The best performance I have still to this day one of the best performances I've ever seen on film all three of them When they find her coke vile at the end and just a single tear comes out her her face because she knows that they fucked her up Yeah
Starting point is 01:13:37 She there's a new season about fever or new I think it's a new I think they're rebooting it as a show I thought it was I know What You Did Last Summer. Same thing. I still know what you did last summer. Do you remember the thrillers? Like when we were, like the scary movies and screams? Yes. Jen Kate Robinson is... Jen Kate Robinson. Yes. Did I still know she did someone great, et cetera?
Starting point is 01:13:56 Those were... Guys, we lived in great times. We did. We didn't know what could be happening. Napster. God, remember Kazaa? Kazaa. Lime wire. Did you ever have Rhapsody?
Starting point is 01:14:09 Of course I had all of them. They would all go, I would completely fuck up my mother's computer every five minutes. We'd have to take it to Toshiba and she'd be like, you crashed the computer again, Khan. And I was like, sorry girl, I had to download that song that took 48 hours. Wow. Are you deeply connected to your Greek roots 1000%?
Starting point is 01:14:27 Yeah, I'm the Greek is first ever great. Yeah, because I don't have like Greek Culture in my life, but I feel like you do here you go. Yeah, right in front of you There you are is I am the epitome of my big fat Greek wedding. Yeah, there are there are I am Joey Fitton. No, I'm near of her dollars your Nia There are columns. You're Joey Fatone. I am Joey Fatone. No, I'm Nia Verdolos. You're Nia, oh!
Starting point is 01:14:46 There are columns in front of my house. Yes, I love it. Till this day, Greek columns. There was plastic on the furniture my entire fucking life. In that room that nobody can go in. Plastic on the remote? No. No, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Sorry, that's an Asian thing maybe. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. What, is it germs? It's germs. Germs, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's more germs on the plastic, keep going. No, we would, still to this. But there's more germs on the platus, we can't keep going. No, we would, we still to this day, there's a baby lamb for Easter
Starting point is 01:15:07 that's on a spit roasted outside of my fucking house in the backyard. Beautiful. And people are like, what is that smell? And I'm like, it's just a lamb. It's just the baby lamb. The baby lamb. Bit roasting in the back.
Starting point is 01:15:18 And my mom's just like making stew from like the insides of the lamb. And I'm like, girl, are you okay? Like what is happening? We are this Greek. I mean it's sick. My sister lives behind my parents house. That's beautiful. Because that's amazing. And also... Wait what's her name? What's her name? Renee. Renee. Oh that's right. Yeah. Okay and also I cut you off. What? Oh no also just that. I'm so Greek. Like I went to Greek school every...
Starting point is 01:15:42 Were you Greek Orthodox? Greek Orthodox. Me too. Holler. So I only, it was the first eight years of my life, I've told you this, we were Greek Orthodox. And then we moved to a different town and we switched to Roman Catholicism because my dad goes, it's basically the same. And it was, the Greek Orthodox is all in Greek.
Starting point is 01:16:00 It's all in Greek. So I couldn't understand that. And it's three hours long. You want to go to church for three hours every Sunday? I don't think so, honey. That was crazy. Crazy, I would have to sit there and I'd be like, dozing off and my mom's like, pay attention.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I'm like, to what? I can't even understand this. Literally, I remember like, because it was all in Greek, I didn't understand it. And then they were like, basically the same. We became Roman Catholic and then I could hear what they were saying. And I'm like, oh, fuck this.
Starting point is 01:16:22 This sucks. Well, because also like, there's something beautiful about going to a Greek church. It's like stunning, like Byzantine art, like things and art. I live next to one. I mean, it's stunning, it's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:16:31 Oh really? That's the church next to me. Oh, that's a Greek Orthodox church. A church, yeah. Yeah, but then my parents, speaking of when you transferred to Catholicism, my parents, when we were going to high school, we had no high school in our town.
Starting point is 01:16:46 You would have to like go private or go somewhere else. And so they were like, we're gonna put you in Catholic school. And I was like, wait, what? I was like, but I'm not Catholic. They're like, same thing. Same thing. So then me, like having to go to mass every whatever, Friday.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And then I was like, okay. And then I got bamboozled into singing in the choir. So then everybody called me the gay singing kid. They're like, hey, gay singing kid, great job on Our God is an Awesome God. And I'm like, cool, don't even know that song. And I'm sitting here like singing like McDonald's fucking songs. That's what it felt like because I was like, I grew up in the Greek church, which was like all like Byzantine, ancient Greek hymns. Sure.
Starting point is 01:17:23 The best one? What is it? Did you ever sing Hosanna in the highest? Of course. Hosanna in the highest. which was all like Byzantine, ancient Greek hymns. The best one. What is it? Did you ever sing Hosanna in the highest? Of course. Hosanna in the highest. It's actually kind of cunty. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:30 Blessed is he who comes from the name of the Lord. Hosanna. No, it's actually, they need to put it in the pop song. I think Lord should do it. Lord should do it. Honestly, with a mashup with Charlie X. It should be on their album, Virgin. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Did you ever remember Sweet Redeemer? That song was a banger. Give it to us. I don't know. Sweet Redeemer, I surrender all I am to you. Yes! Yeah, it was wild. Oh my gosh, Sweet Redeemer.
Starting point is 01:17:59 And then I used to get in trouble by The Priest because my mentor in high school, two guys, Frank and Ed, who I fucking love still to this day They would always like make me just like go off like American Idol style. Mm-hmm, and I was like, okay And then the priest would be like listen son. This is an American Idol. Stop singing like that. This is church And I was like, okay Extended belt. Oh, I I to hold, I would hold things out. People would be like, yo, gay singing kid,
Starting point is 01:18:27 that was so fierce today. And I'm like, thanks man. That was so fierce today. And I was like, well, I'm actually not gay. And they're like, ha ha, sure. Sure. But yeah, I would just like go off at mass because I was like, I'm not Catholic, what is this?
Starting point is 01:18:39 This is like fun, crazy music. We're all just goofing off here. We're goofing off, yeah, at church. But don't you love that you have this sort of pop star narrative of, he gotta start singing in the church choir. In the church choir, I sure did. I mean, I sang in the church choir in Greek church too.
Starting point is 01:18:54 So like, that was like, you know, hymns and shit. So that was wild. Speaking of all these movies that we remember every line, remember Sister Act 2, where there's that iconic scene where Lauren Hill and her friend are singing I sing because I'm happy and I sing because I'm free So then at the end they're singing and the one girl goes to Lauryn Hill goes to the one girl girl You could really make it and she goes. Mm-hmm. This is for church
Starting point is 01:19:22 But when she was like she was like Or you clearly know that she has a better voice than Lauren Hill. Sorry. She literally loved that. And then she was like, girl, I just can't, I can't get that, you have it. I can't get that low note. And she's like, no, no, no, no, no, this is for church. You could really make it. That movie is so special. Rita, Rita Marie Watkins. Get your behind upstairs.
Starting point is 01:19:46 Get your nose out of the books and your head in the clouds. Aren't they making the third one? What's the rumor on that? Okay, so we need to sit Whoopi down in that chair, actually. Yeah, Whoopi needs to get here now. First of all, why hasn't that happened? You guys need to get that immediately. I bet we can.
Starting point is 01:19:59 In fact, I know we can. By the way, Whoopi tore up the Met Gala. Yeah, she looks amazing. Did you see that? Can we talk about the fashions? Yes, let's talk about the fashions. Because you know, it's current. Highlights. Um, highlights. Who let me have it? Teyana. Teyana. Yes. Teyana Taylor. Teyana Taylor. It was more and more the best. Janelle Monáe everything. Always. Always. Bad Bunny. Looking like the scarecrow from the Wiz and I was so here for it.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Yeah, absolutely. With a Michael Jackson glove. I was like, bitch, go off. What did you feel about Zendaya and Insa Wai being in the same look? Was it the same? It was the exact same. I don't know if the designer was the same.
Starting point is 01:20:40 I thought it was different takes on this. Okay. Yeah, but wow. I mean, you look at it side by side. I will. She can wear anything. I mean, Zendaya's the most stunning human in the world. But it reminded me of like, you know, old Celine, it was that granny look. Oh yeah, with the backwards suit.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Oh my God. Which was iconic, but I'm like, okay, we've seen it. Let's maybe do something else. Sure, sure, sure. Rihanna announcing've seen it. Let's maybe do something else. Sure. Sure. Sure We're announcing baby number three Zero fucks, I said are nine more like our free Oh Rihanna third bird. Also that album actually gonna happen I don't think so. I hate that. I hate that. I hate hearing that terrible. Don't what the streets are saying is that She really just likes to smoke weed and watch Housewives and do the fashion thing. That's what the streets are saying.
Starting point is 01:21:30 Honestly, who among us? I mean, we're here for that, but also I just need one more. Just give me one more. Of course. One more. But to Antye is pretty cool. Here's the thing. I don't think it's that she doesn't want to. I just think she feels she set a really high fucking bar with Antye. I also think she feels she set a really high fucking bar with anti. I also think she genuinely enjoys these other aspects of her life.
Starting point is 01:21:50 And if it's coming, it is on her time, which is, as we know, late. Yeah. Yeah. The way she rolled up. She made everyone on that carpet wait 45 minutes after the last person to take her fucking picture. Unreal. Good. Good. Unreal. Good. Good. Unreal. Do we like Dua Lipa's look?
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yes. I did like Dua Lipa's look. I liked Coleman, obviously. Coleman can do no wrong. Amazing. Coleman can do no wrong. Also shout out Hunter Schaefer. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:18 Crushed. Oh my God. But always, just perfection. And who else? Lorde looked amazing too. Lorde looks amazing. And Lorde? Lorde looked amazing too. Lorde looks amazing. And Lorde is like really, I think making like an announcement about their gender.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Yes. I feel like it's... Saying they feel like a man and a woman. And a woman, yeah. But not like dropping the pronouns just yet. Right. Yeah. I love the new song.
Starting point is 01:22:40 It's great. It grew on me. It's very good. The first time I heard it I was like, oh, come on. And then like the second or third time I heard it, I was like, what was that? I love it. Miss it. I missed that crazy voice.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Me too. I missed that crazy voice. I saw Charlie again at Barclays. Was it amazing? Yes. And full rain on stage, I was dead. I think it's my third time in a month seeing her because both times at Coachella, now this, and I saw Sweat.
Starting point is 01:23:05 When the girl so confusing Lord verse comes on It's like Hosanna in the highest. Oh, I'm sure it is. It's like sweet redeemer. It's sweet redeemer. Wow By the time she gets to Say we say the same half by the time that part is going you're just like you're jumping Oh, yeah, you're a full cardiac arrest. Yes, it's so good. And Guess, let me tell you something about Guess. And I told you this.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Guess, people thought, and this is no disrespect to Rain On Me by Ariana Grande and Lady Gaga. That is a classic. Classique. People thought that that was like the female duet of our time to rival Enough Is Enough, No More Tears. Donna Summer, Barbara Streisand, it's Guess. That was like the female duet of our time to rival Enough is Enough, No More Tears. Donna Summer, Barbara Streisand, it's Guess.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Guess is so powerful. Big statement, yeah. There's room for everything, I'm just saying. The feeling that you get during Guess, there's nothing like that. Also, I don't know if I told you this, maybe I've told you this before. On my world traveling extravaganza,
Starting point is 01:24:04 we went to the boiler room set I was there with Armanas with Armanas with Armanas We were there I lost my mom I was so high. Yeah, it was crazy. I mean I was Gorgeous hot man from Ibiza. And I was like, cool, never see you again. But also, that's me.
Starting point is 01:24:28 I'd love to do that all around the world. Oh, same. Just grab a man. Come over here. Get over here. Yeah, it was wild. Wow. Crazy.
Starting point is 01:24:37 That's like a historic moment. It's a historic moment. People were like, I still listen to that. And I'm like, I was there. You were there? No, I can't believe it. I still can't believe it. Thanks, I mean, that was all Gus.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Gus made it happen. Thank God to our girl. Our baby girl, baby bride. Baby bride? Baby bride, no, he's not married. That's what I was like. It's like breaking news. Breaking news.
Starting point is 01:24:56 She's married. Breaking gay news on a gay podcast. Yes, bride. Gus Kenworthy, a baby bride? We would slay the news. Yeah, you're slaying the transitions into the news. You know what they did tell me on today? They were like, you're so good at transitions.
Starting point is 01:25:13 And I was like, it's because we're used to doing it. We're used to doing it. They didn't tell me that. Well, that's because they felt they don't need to. Because you know it all, you hear it all the time. I was, I did slay, are you doing prompter wars, by the way? I asked to do prompter wars and I don't think we're doing know it all that you see it here it all I was I did slay are you doing prompter wars by the Way, I asked to do prompter wars and I don't think we're doing it. I just did it But I'm gonna ask again. You need to do I need I want to do the teleprompter
Starting point is 01:25:34 Yes, so they do like tongue twisters on the teleprompter. They go really really fast You're supposed like it's like it's like a battle with like Jenna and like whoever else well my dyslexia would really kick in hard Yeah, what though who's to say that's on the board Jenna and like whoever else. Well, my dyslexia would really kick in hard. I'd be like, I don't know. Yeah. What though? Who's to say that's not what's on the board. So what do kids have fun? Let them. Let them.
Starting point is 01:25:53 BFGW, big fat Greek wedding. Wedding. BFGW. One of the great movies. Still, I think a comedy breakthrough moment for me was Andrew Martin talking about her, the lump on her neck. Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:04 That is one of the funniest things in movie history. There was a spinal cord and teeth. I got a bubopsy. Andrew Martin is so forever. It's not even funny. It's so genius. I love that movie. It's so good. It's good every single time.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I remember I went with my Greek grandmother. Whose Greek? Your mom's side or dad's side? So this is the controversy. Oh yeah. No one knows. No, no, no. But have you heard this?
Starting point is 01:26:40 So I live my entire life thinking like almost 50% Greek. Like that's kind of what the vibe is. Like my mother's side of the family, like there's a lot of Greek there. In fact, we had even seen the movie and my Nana who's now passed, she was like, this is my culture, I'm so happy they made a movie about this and it was just a huge success, like et cetera.
Starting point is 01:26:59 So then I think like two years ago, I do The 23 and Me. Spit in the tube, Send it in comes back 0.0 percent Greek Almost 40 percent Turkish But it's giving that it's raining. It's giving right next door right right next door. It's giving let's just call it a culture clash Grandma grew up in Greece and my mother's maiden name is is Claritas. Yeah. So it's like their Greek- Santa Claritas. Santa Claritas. Very that.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Diet. They're... Right? Yeah. But the Drew Barrymore hit show. Hit show. Love you Drew. We do, I do love you Drew.
Starting point is 01:27:36 We do. But you know what, that was so that was like, I was kinda like, thank God that she passed before. She would have had a hard time. I don't think she would have loved the news. Wouldn't have loved it. No. She is Greek. You are Greek loved the news. Wouldn't have loved it. No. She is Greek.
Starting point is 01:27:46 You are Greek though. You come from Greece. You're there. It's fine. But then I looked at a picture of a Turkish person. I Googled Turkish man. And everything that came up was like, it was kind of like, I got it. I was like, yeah, I think I am Turkish Greek.
Starting point is 01:28:04 You know what I'm saying? I mean, they're so close. It is what it is. Like my father's village where he grew up is like this tiny little place called Kastorya, which is right next to Albania and Turkey and everything. So it's like, do you speak it? Yeah. Oh, fluently. Love. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:28:21 Yeah, that was the best part. Stan. Great part now knowing that you're like, okay, cool, we're past like Greek school and like the shit that I had to go through my whole life. Every Sunday? No, no, no, every Tuesday and Thursday for three hours after American school.
Starting point is 01:28:35 No, no. Talk about then having to study for American school, do your homework and then do Greek homework. You can't watch CRL. I had to tape it. You had to tape it. Tape it. Oh, we had to press record on a VCR for that.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Anyway, no, manually I had to press it. You had to press it? Oh wow. DHS. Actually, us talking about this makes me realize I do know my own thing, so honey. Great. Okay, good. I think it's time. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show.
Starting point is 01:29:38 I live with my boyfriend and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:30:03 It's the one with the green guy on it. Hey, my name's Jay Shetty and I'm the host of On Purpose. And I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian. God, I've been through so many things that at this point I would rather not feel than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle. Alright, we're ready. I am Khloe Kardashian. Khloe Kardashian, everybody am Khloe Kardashian.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Khloe Kardashian, everybody. Khloe Kardashian. No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show. There would be times that I was like, I don't even want to go out to the grocery store because I feel like I know what they're thinking about me. And that was scary to me because I've never been in a dark place for that long.
Starting point is 01:30:45 You've always taken care of others. Have you discovered anything about why you've seen yourself take on that role in so many relationships in your life? How do you even find the courage to trust again? Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. My husband has a secret son from a past partner. Hold up Sam, how do we know how we done the DNA test? Well, John, luckily it's mother may have a DNA test week
Starting point is 01:31:13 on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. And this wife writes, my husband received a Facebook message from a woman saying that he is the father of a five-year-old. Whoa! At first he didn't remember her, but then he realized they had a one-night stand right before we started dating.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Wait, but do we have proof he's a dad? Well, the author says there's no confirmation the kid is even his son, but the woman from Facebook has a meeting with her lawyer soon. I think she's going after our money. If the kid is actually my husband's, she would be entitled to it too.
Starting point is 01:31:40 So what's a husband got to say about this? This could be his kid. Well, apparently he broke down in the middle of the living room apologizing, but this is what scared me. His first instinct, if the kid is his son, is to pay the child support, but not be an active father in the kid's life because he only wants a family with me, his wife. Oh, this is a mess. To hear the explosive finale, follow OK Storytime on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2020, a group of young women in a tidy suburb
Starting point is 01:32:09 of New York City found themselves in an AI-fueled nightmare. Someone was posting photos. It was just me naked. Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts on my body parts that looked exactly like my own. I wanted to throw up. I wanted to scream. It happened in Levittown, New York.
Starting point is 01:32:30 But reporting this series took us through the darkest corners of the internet and to the front lines of a global battle against deepfake pornography. This should be illegal, but what is this? This is a story about a technology that's moving faster than the law and about vigilantes trying to stem the tide. I'm Margie Murphy. And I'm Olivia Carville. This is Levertown, a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts,
Starting point is 01:32:56 Bloomberg and Kaleidoscope. Listen to Levertown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I think it's time for I Don't Think So, Honey. And this is gonna be a throwback. It actually is applicable to all times. By the way, I Don't Think So, Honey is our 60-second segment
Starting point is 01:33:18 where we take a minute to rant, rail, and more. Again, something in culture that deserves it. And I have that thing. Okay, this is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Rail, and more. Again, something in culture that deserves it. And I have that thing. Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So Honey, and his time starts now. I don't think so honey people who fast forward and cannot start it on time and like and when it comes back from commercial You've had years now to understand the timing on this and it happened back in the day And it's years and years and years because I'm saying it's not just the DVR it's also rewind culture from from VCR culture you know you hit the button to resume a little before I
Starting point is 01:33:56 hate going back going forth going back going I hate it you know when it's over I guess you wouldn't know because you have to guess but like We develop your instincts develop your internal clock and then like just get it right Like I hate this about 15 seconds. Fast-forwarding through things. I would rather watch a commercial Sorry Fuck you. I don't think so, honey. That's one minute. This is Bo and Yang's I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Starting point is 01:34:28 What are the lotions of the world doing to help us in any situation? Like, why can't we have lotions that just work? I'm putting hand cream on and I still have cracked palms. I'm putting lip balm on, I still have cracked lips. So cracked. There's nothing, there's, my body is a sponge and there's nothing in the world
Starting point is 01:34:48 that can actually hydrate me to its fullest potential. I think this is something that is accelerating my age. I think this is something that I can't stay on top of and then it will eventually, it will show in my hands. There are people out there, you know the stars out there who are aging from their hands first. And I think I will be one of those people. When he'll be one of those stars.
Starting point is 01:35:11 I'll be one of those stars. You know who I'm talking about. You know who I'm talking about. Don't you know who I'm talking about? Not really. Aging from their hands first? Marla Mandel. We'll talk about that.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Marla, I don't wanna. Five seconds. Five seconds, sorry Marla. That's actually great company B. And if I get any closer to being like Marla Mandel, We'll talk about that. Marla, I don't wanna- Five seconds. Five seconds, sorry Marla. That's actually great company being, I would, if I get any closer to being like Marla Mandel, then you know what, fuck those. You never helped me anyway. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 01:35:32 Wait, what? Am I the only person who's like, what's the point? First of all, let me see your gorgeous soft hands. Yeah, first of all, yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? Look, look at this. Look at how beautiful his hands are. Mine are fucking decrepit.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Well, I have baby, I have little baby hands, like T-Rex hands. You have gorgeous hands. Look how small these hands are. Well I have little baby hands like T-Rex hands. You have gorgeous hands. Look how small these hands are. Smaller hands than you. You're cheating. My hands are smaller than yours. Do I have the biggest hands here?
Starting point is 01:35:53 You have huge hands. That means you got a big, big, big, big. He goes, you have huge hands. What does that mean? Big penis. Big penis and toes. That's what I say about the Greeks. Show it now. Show it. You know what I say about the Greeks. Yes. Show it now.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Show it. You know what I mean? What's the point? I'm saying what's the, I put on lotion today, I'm still dry. Yeah. Talking about. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Bowen, no. You have a gorgeous. Bowen, no. You're luminous. I just, I can't, I don't know what humidity means in terms of how it affects my body at this point. I feel like I do think sometimes, like with hand cream and stuff,
Starting point is 01:36:30 it's like I wonder if it's a little bit of like, once you start using it, you need it more. And that to me makes it feel like a scam. Like sometimes I've been using skin care. It's like shitty lip balm. It's like shitty lip balm. People will compliment me on my skin, and I'll be like, oh, I haven't used anything in weeks and months,
Starting point is 01:36:46 and then I'll like break out or I'll have skin purging because I've been using like the best products. I don't do anything but put my face under hot water. Are you serious? Is that true? Hot water? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:36:58 I don't do anything but burn off my face. Burn off my face. No, I have cold water. No, in the shower, I literally have, I mean, I have like a washer, a washer for my face. You have cold water. No, in the shower. I literally have, I mean, I have like a washer. Washer for my face. You have beautiful skin. Well, because we're Greek, we have oily skin.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Yeah. All of skin tones. Do you tan like a motherfucker? Like a motherfucker. I do too. But I can get pasty as hell during the winter. Everyone's like, you okay? You sick?
Starting point is 01:37:20 No, the answer is no. And I'm like, yes, I am. I have like gangrenous face. Like October through December. Yeah, green. Yeah.'m like, yes, I am. I have like gangrenous face. Like October through December. Yeah, green. Yeah. That's disgusting. No, that's not.
Starting point is 01:37:30 But yeah, but then like I get, you know, go in that sun and boom. But then what? Because if you go in the sun too much, that's when... Yeah, but that's when we're going to get the Lindsay Lohan. I know, I can't wait. Who do we have to... We have to find out all this information. So if anybody has information about this...
Starting point is 01:37:43 What are you just saying? Who do we have to fuck to get the Lindsay Lohan face? who do we have to fuck to get the Lindsay Lohan face? Who do we have to fuck to get the Lindsay Lohan face? Jesus Christ, I'm getting up there and I wanna be revealed. If you out there know who we have to fuck to get the Lindsay Lohan face, dial in 1-866-IDLES03. Connie, I don't think you.
Starting point is 01:38:01 IDLES03. I think you get into the daddy identity. Okay, we're gonna get there. You, I think out of you, I think you, I think you like get into the daddy identity. Okay, we're gonna get there. You, I think out of anybody that I know has had the best twink to, twink death to daddyhood. Honestly, I'll take it. Do you remember your twink death? Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:38:17 It's like a little trauma. Yeah, I do. People are posting their twink death photos. The twink death was, I want to say, when was that? Like right, there's a picture of a hair spray on Broadway after we closed and then I did legally bond and then something happened, I moved to LA. And the twink death was really hard.
Starting point is 01:38:37 It was beautiful. And I was like, bye girl. But like, it was wild. The twink death is the return to Saturn. Yeah. It's Real Culture number 17. The twink Death is the return to Saturn. Yeah. It's Royal Culture number 17. Yes. The Twink Death is the return to Saturn.
Starting point is 01:38:46 They coincide. Cause I remember mine was also when I moved to LA, 27, 28, I got to LA and was trying to like do that thing, that Twinkie thing of like, I tuck my ringer t-shirt into my jeans and all of a sudden it was like, oh, that's not looking like it used to. Like, and then you're like, it's cause you're not a Twink anymore.
Starting point is 01:39:07 Yeah. It's okay. It's okay. We all have to, like a fine wine. Yeah. Like a fine wine. Fine wine. All right. So listen, speaking of fine wine, we're about to have a fine, I don't think so Eddie, from Connie. Oh my God, I'm nervous.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Don't be. Don't be. Don't be, go off this. You're made for this. I am made for this. Have you ever done this? Have you done a live, I'm nervous. Don't be. Don't be. You're made for this. I am made for this. Have you ever done this? Have you done a live? We didn't know you back when we did live shows. No.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Wow. No, but this would have been one for the books. Okay. Live. Bring it back. Honestly, maybe we should bring it back. It's like a special big thing. I think it'd be very funny.
Starting point is 01:39:37 Maybe that's our Radio City show. Oh yeah, you guys, 1000%. We don't have it booked anymore, but we'll give it a shot. Okay, so you wanna know the tea? We had Radio City Music Hall booked for the Culture Awards, but because we're doing it on Peacock, it's just like too, like, it was a bit too much money.
Starting point is 01:39:52 Too many cooks in the kitchen, I get it. So we're doing it in LA at the Orpheum, but we literally had a date for it. It would have been next month. We were doing it at Radio City Music Hall, and now I'm thinking, let's do, I don't think so, honey, that with 50 people.
Starting point is 01:40:05 I would love that. Oh my God, that would be. And there's enough, they can all fit on stage. Oh my God. They can all fit on stage, that stage is huge. It's a humongous stage. And also it's Radio City, it's the most iconic place in the world.
Starting point is 01:40:17 Well, you know, Giggly Squad sold it out twice. And I'm like, okay, so it's possible for two girls that have a podcast to do that. That's true. And we're two girls. We're almost that. Yeah. You guys are two fantastic girls. Hey, thanks.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Hey, thanks. Wait a minute. We have one fantastic girl before us. He's about to do it. I don't think so. One fantastic girl stands before me. I only have one phone in my hands. We have Ma from Hermanas.
Starting point is 01:40:44 We have Octavia Spencer. We have Octavia Spencer in Ma. The best film of all time. Best film of all time. Great Fire Island movie. Honestly, put it on. I'm gonna put it on. Put it on this summer.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I'm gonna put it on. When are you going? I don't know, we have to figure out August. Should we all go together? So August. Anybody wanna give us a house? So wait, do we have something for August? We have, we gave it up because we're gonna
Starting point is 01:41:04 P-Tone for a carnival. Wait, we gave it up? Because it's the same week as the P-Town house. What about July? Maybe I'll go to P-Town. I have to decide. Let's just, well we'll talk off air. We need to.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Yeah, we have to be there together. We have to, it's a must. That would be so fun. It would be very fun. This is- Oh my God. I don't think so, honey. I can't wait for this. Oh Jesus. This is Constantine Razulis. I don't think so, honey. can't wait for this. Oh Jesus. Okay is
Starting point is 01:41:26 Constantine Rizzouis. I don't think so any time starts now. Okay. You know what? I don't think so honey being private on Instagram Yeah, we're gonna talk about this right now Because if I see you DM me and then I click on your fucking picture and that tiny little fucking picture and there's nothing to go To and you have 800 followers. What are you a Quaker a Quaker? You can't just be out in public? Then why are you on Instagram? I need you to share your life, share everything. Sorry, I'm keeping it from my close friends and family. What, the 200 people that you know?
Starting point is 01:41:54 Why don't you fucking text them? I wanna scan your pictures, I wanna creep on you, I wanna see exactly who you are, I wanna hear your voice, I wanna get the fucking tea. Because if we're gonna bone I want to see if you're man enough. Yes Also that's long ever yummy yummy 15 seconds, but like seriously I and then I click on another picture and then it's like this gorgeous group of people and you
Starting point is 01:42:20 Fucking private and we're never gonna meet because you're never gonna see my DM or my or the message so It's a lost cause. Okay, so you can choke Get that shit off private and fucking DM me. Thank you so much. That's one minute. You're so right Yeah, right. I don't know how people expect something to get going when it's like all I can do is click your little profile picture It doesn't even also when it's private another I don't think so, it doesn't expand. No. It doesn't expand. You go and see the, so.
Starting point is 01:42:49 And I'm not giving you the follow right away. No. I gotta see what I'm signing up for. I gotta do the creep of like, I'm gonna like two pictures and then you're gonna see it because you're gonna scan. You're gonna make me be the Pikmi when you're the Pikmi? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:43:01 No way. No way. First of all, just beware of the Pikmis. Because even if they seem cool, that's what they are. Oh no. Yeah, they think they're so cool. I'm like, you're not cool. Because you're a private.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah, no. Shut up. Well, and also here's the thing. If you want, whatever. If you want to be private, fine. You're being, I don't think so, Eddie, but whatever. There's also this. And a lot of gays that I truly respect these girls, they'll have a private profile, but
Starting point is 01:43:23 then pretty much all of their stories will be close friends. So do that. Have like your little whatever, like it can be nothing. But then just like engage with, cause you can also do grid close friends. You can do grid close friends.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Exactly. But I'll keep all the grid posts close friends if you don't want anyone to see anything. Literally. But private is, I mean, in this context. Then don't be on Instagram. Then don't be on Instagram. Then don't be on Instagram. Then don't be on, it's okay.
Starting point is 01:43:47 Or just don't be flirting, don't be suggestive in the DMs with a private person. Exactly. How very dare you. How very dare you. How very dare you. This is not quite the same. That is very, this is all very justified. My original I Don't Think So Honey before,
Starting point is 01:43:59 I blanked out and went to lotions because I saw a bottle of lotion right there. Oh my God, that would give you the idea. That would give me the idea because I'm stroking. But my original I don't think, so, honey, was you're on a dating app and you have a LinkedIn. Do you private that? Because I see what you do and where you went to school,
Starting point is 01:44:17 because it's fun. It's fun. I'm not going to judge you. What sucks about LinkedIn, which I learned in the hard way, people can see when you go look. No, but you don't log in to LinkedIn. No, you log off your LinkedIn, open a private browser, go to their LinkedIn. And if it blocks you, if you have to log in and you go, well, I'm not going that far. I'm not going to like have them see that I viewed their profile.
Starting point is 01:44:36 But I just want to hate that. You know what I mean? Because why can't I just like. I like to do a little stalking. Yeah, I like to creep in like a creepy corolla as we like to call it. A little online creepy crawly. I love that. When you get like fucking busted on by like.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Wow. I don't mind that. I would love a busted on. I say that with Jenna Bush Hager tomorrow. You know when you get busted on. She's like, hey.
Starting point is 01:45:02 Well, I could bust all over this episode. Me too. I love you guys. This is so fun. We love you and adore you. Day one, love you. Does that make sense? Day five, hate you.
Starting point is 01:45:14 Day five, hate. Day six, love again. Day six, maybe. Day seven, so what, who cares? So what, who cares? So what, who cares? So what, who cares? This has been fabulous.
Starting point is 01:45:22 You're the best. Listen, June third, he goes back in. June 15th, they all go out. Unless you make this undeniable, it must continue. You could not see a better show. And the good news for you, if you are international, is Trump's not your president. And also you can probably see Titanic.
Starting point is 01:45:44 Paris. London. Paris. London. Australia. We're in Australia, Sydney? Sydney. Great town. And we're going to Brazil in October. Wow!
Starting point is 01:45:53 Wow! Justoso, baby, bom dia. Ah! Obrigado. Obrigado. Are you guys performing in the Copa? Like in the Chicago? I hope so, I better.
Starting point is 01:46:03 2.5 million? Yeah, 2.5 million people. I would love to see that. We're gonna be in Sao Paulo and then we're gonna take a trip to Rio. So just maybe come. You guys should actually come. When, when, when, when?
Starting point is 01:46:12 October something, early October. We're coming. We're coming. Okay, no. We haven't talked about that. I know, there's like, it's the best. Oh. Gay shit to talk about.
Starting point is 01:46:23 A lot of gay shit to talk about. A Celine song came on on my way here I can't believe I didn't even tell you which one should be this on the we sing okay. Let's go. I surrender I know you can feel it too Make it through A thousand dreams I still believe I pray you give them all to me I hold you in my arms
Starting point is 01:46:56 And never let go I surrender Wow. To hear that song, go to Titanic, closing June 15th. Maybe. Bye! Bye! Yay!
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