Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Kakuna Gay Harden" (w/ Richard Perez)

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

ARCADE FIRE joins Las Cultur-- juuuust kidding, y'all! It's Richard Perez! The princesses of comedy join together to discuss the trauma of the princesses of Mario, how it's easier to act with a mirror than a person, Marcia Gay Harden's filmography, the value of pokémon cards these days, the complicated politics of having a big juicy ass and "bunny feet" photos. Also, where we were when they "got Bin Laden", sex before dinner, thoughts on LC vs Kristin after a Laguna Beach rewatch, how the year 2007 hit etrra hard culturally, Solange's early impact on Beyoncé and thoughts on the Cowboy Carter World Tour, working at Panera Bread, "roller coaster acting", Diablo Cody's Juno, and a message to all upcoming princesses. All this, the gender of Pikachu, Mayhem Ball demands/requests from Matt, Bowen and Richard,  See Richard's show For One Night Okay on July 12th at Union Hall and catch his solo show I Have To Do This this fall! Richard is one of the GREATS. WhOa!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.

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Each week I'm joined by authors, celebs, book talk stars, and more for conversations that will make you laugh, cry, and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is The Turning, River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to The Turning, River Road on the I

Heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. -♪ Tink, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, tock, at any point in your life as a princess? Hmm. There was one time I dressed up as a little princess. And actually it was pretty visceral because my younger... Oh my God, this is like, not me having a flashback to a traumatic memory. You didn't know this was gonna unlock something, but it did. My cousin Megan dressed me up in a princess outfit and I went upstairs in the princess outfit and I can tell I could, in the moment,

know that it was not the thing to do because my parents and all their friends were like, oh, it's a little boy dressed as a girl, the first sign. You can feel the adults sort of like, like, oh. They slurped. That's what I meant to say the whole time. They slurred.

When I went upstairs dressed as the princess, they went, as Bowen just went, they went. Every princess has like an origin Are you already in sorry? Sorry? Ah, but now Bowen was there ever a time when you felt like a princess? I Can't say I've only really felt like a princess in the presence of another princess You know what I mean? And there was something really important about our guest one time when we were hanging out. I don't even think you like anointed me as such, but you were just like,

well, we're princesses. And I went, you know what I mean? You started, you're jaw dropping. So do you feel like we should start a Queens of Comedy, but it's the princesses of comedy? Princesses of Comedy, yes. Cause I am like, here's the thing is like, it's a big joke, but I do say I'm the prince of Christmas once a year.

So when you say princess, that's hard, because I've just branded us something else, but I could change my brand if you guys were like, we were the princesses of comedy, like the queens of comedy before us. Yes. I think that's a really important discussion we should have.

So our guest is fabulous comedian. You might know him. Princesses of Comedy is title of that by the way. Princesses of Comedy. Oh my God, look, he's being a princess right now. Can we cut to him? Oh! Well, he's threatened to sort of spike at the camera

the whole time. And I said, that's gonna be tough for us. Someone who's having a conversation with you. It's gonna be tough for us us because we're over here, but the camera's over there. But I mean, this person knows his, his frame. He knows how to work the camera in a way that I don't think I've ever seen.

But here's the thing is it's like, I kind of want to be the camera now. I know. I... Wow! We need to talk. We need to talk about all things, princess, camera, everything. Okay, if you're listening to this, I think this might come out before his show,

July 12th, Union Hall. We're crossing our fingers. This comes out in time for the Union Hall show on July 12th. Hopefully you guys hear this in time. You guys hear this in time, we'll cut this out. And able to get down there. And get to Brooklyn. Park Slope, July 12th, Union Hall.

How do you get to Park Slope from here? Park Slope? Yeah, Park Slope. I would get, I would hop on the F train. And I think I would, maybe I'd transfer at Barclays. And I don't know if it stops at the Union Street. Oh no, you have to transfer at Barclays to the R, take that to Union Street.

Yeah, that's how we'd get there from here. And we record this podcast from, what would you call this? Midtown. 55th Street. Yes. Ooh. We're at the I Heart offices in a studio that we found out was originally made for Ryan Seacrest. Feels very like Coca-Cola Lounge, American Idol era. Yeah, yeah.

And then our guests sang the theme song from American Idol. Da na na na na na na na. Ah, ooh ah ah. Do you perform this in the show? Um. That's pretty good. Wait. Please welcome to your ears, Richard Perez!

And by the way, there's other shows that are gonna happen later on. September, you said? September 2nd. Spring, summer, and more September. At Joe's Pub. I have a solo show called I Have to Do This. Yeah.

Huge, huge, huge moment in comedy, I think. I have to do this. I think Richard really rocked the scene. With his sensuality. We need to talk about sensuality. We have to, yeah. Explain what it is to us. Well, you know, there's definitely camera work involved

and just kind of like, don't be scared to like look at it Who do you think who do you pretend the camera is somebody that you know or I pretend it's like a ref? I thought it's like a mirror I'm kind of just like well cuz you know when you like act in the mirror, you know You when you do that always better when you're acting in the hall when you have so I just pretend that I'm like I know what this looks like Don't you think though, like sometimes I'll be in the mirror just giving. And we can be like transparent and gay here.

We got to talk about gay mirrors. Let's really get into it. Because how many times have you looked into the mirror and been giving? I really have. All the time. Yeah, all the time. All the time. And then outside of the bathroom, it's, you know, impossible to get a good take. It's hard. Yeah. Yeah. It's so hard to get in there.

Yeah. I would push for mirrors, mirrors on cameras on all sets. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, it's a shame that we don't have a mirror here today. I know that for me. I don't know about for y'all, but the work that you'd get out of me if I just could act with the mirror.

It would be crazy. Yeah. Emma Stone found worse than dead. Jealous. Threatened. Wait, it's actually really cool to remember 13. Jealous? That's worse than dead to be caught.

When you're jealous? Oh. I mean, there's that saying about it. What is? Is it a disease or whatever? Yes, jealousy is a disease, so get well soon. There's also jealousy is the green-eyed monster. Get well soon.

Oh, envy is the green-eyed monster. Envy is the green-eyed monster. And jealousy is. Jealousy is. A disease. A disease, so get well soon. Do you know who first said that? Who?

Was. Meredith Marks. Meredith said that who was Meredith marks? Oh Really? Yeah, well, I don't like I don't watch housewives like I don't know that universe like at all I think you out of anybody would really love it. Really? I feel like you'd like like old New York. Don't you think that? Yes I think like I don't know. Of course, like my friends Love it. Hmm and It's just such a big We got him Richard lied to us two big poofy dresses Princesses. Princesses.

The princesses. Very princesses. The boy. Yeah. Who's the best princess in media, do we know? I'd say like, when I was thinking about us or the princess discussion, I'm like- Yeah, what'd you see in your mind's eye?

Like Mario Party, like- Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. There's Peach, Daisy, and then there's another one. Rosalina. Rosalina. The princess of where did she come from? She is from Mario Galaxy.

Yeah. She has a really tragic story. Okay. And you find out about it as you go to visit the library as you unlock more worlds. You read, you read about her. It's very much like Little Prince. She, her parents die. They based Mystic River on her.

Did you ever see Mystic River? I think actually it was on TV once Emmy Rostam What happens to her character It's based on Rosalina's sister Oh yeah And her dad is Sean Penn And he was like, I'm does my god

I'm does my god Gaaaaaa And then Marcia Gay Harden In Rosalina's universe turned to performance bitch. I think Marcia Gay Harden is a princess. Of screen. Yes, wait, wait, wait. Is that the one that was...

Wait, wait, wait. You came to Las Coltristas and you don't know who Marcia Gay Harden is? I do. I do. Was she an urban legend? Oh my god, I don't know that. I might be thinking of someone else. She got like a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little Um, was she an urban legend?

I might be thinking of someone else. She got like light eyes and like she got light eyes. Yeah, she's like He plays don't get me. Have you ever seen the movie? There was anything with your Mona Lisa smile. No I've never seen a movie. No, that's okay. He's a liar. He's seen movies. I haven't seen movies. I'm trying to think of a monoculture piece of work that Marcia Gay Harden was in. And it's hard. But even then, like, some of those, I'm like, I missed it. And you're never going to watch it.

One day I could. Same with like Housewives. Like one day... If I broke both my legs, I would be watching. would totally I'd be caught up on all these yes God forbid that yeah, but absolutely I think that's kind of Yeah, yeah I'm gonna list some movies that Marsha Gay Harden has been in and you guys tell me if you've seen this movie and if you Think this movie qualifies as a model culture Yes, you can see what she looks like. This is Marcia Gay Harden. So just a minute to zoom in for everyone.

That's Marcia Gay Harden. That's actually her at the premiere of Frozen 2. So I don't know if she played a role in Frozen 2, but I'm going to imagine that she was there for some reason. So her acting credits include the First Wives Club. She played Ness someone in Dr. Leslie Rosen. I don't remember her in that. I don't remember. I don. I don't remember her.

I don't know. Meet Joe Black? That's the gorilla. Allison Parrish? No. No. Again, Mona Lisa Smile, Julia Roberts is in that. Amazing.

If you haven't seen that. No. Alright. Have you ever seen the movie The Mist? No. Okay. This is tough. know, what? How about 50 shades of gray? She played grace trivillion gray?

I'm only gonna imagine must be a Christian father mother rather So I'm a joke around when someone asks me if I've seen a certain movie. I'm like, is it like 40 old virgin? That's that's your like your North Star. I i guess okay and now i'm like what about tv you know do you watch the morning show on apple tv plus in the morning show she plays like a cunty reporter who's like i'll get you she's always talking she's always telling you you know the role of this of course it's like her adversary is jennifer aniston who's like one of the top morning show hosts and she's very like sorry rita ske Skeeter vibes, where she's like, hmm. What can I report on?

It's Steve Carell's in it too. Steve Carell's in it. Yeah, yeah. Briefly, briefly. Okay, gotcha. His character drove off a cliff. Oh my God. By accident.

Well, I think your vibe is very Marcia. Gay Harden. What do you think of that name? Gay Harden. I think that it's a great last name. And I think Gay Hardin. I think that I relate to it. Yeah. Gay Hardin. It resonates.

Do you Hardin? I actually do quite a bit. What's the name of the Pokemon that has Hardin as a move? Metapod. Oh my god. So if Kakuna was part of the LGBTQ plus community, he would be gay hardened. Kakuna gay hardened. Yeah, 100%.

That actually might be the title of that. Kakuna gay hardened. Wow. That's such a joke for Bowen Yang. That's so fun. That may be for you as well. I loved Pokemon. Like, I, at my dad's apartment, apartment. We like he still has the binder

I like left it there. We had 150 you can sell those there there It's time to sell really they're up in and market really is nodding our camera guy. Are you serious? I'll sell sell yeah, people will buy them. Yes for how much I like what what would you say? Yeah, like I'm sure as if anyone's interested People will buy them. Yes for how much how I like what what would you say? if anyone's interested Go for I think like 5k you're fucking no What do you think? Thousand you're lying Five K. I will never forget like going to the Pokemon cart. I was I called it the Pokemon

I'm sorry, but one Tuesday's we would go yeah every. And I could never buy a Charizard because it was $22. But my mom was like, hopefully you'll find it in a pack because I'm not allowing you to pay $22 for a card. And then one day. And now she's eating her fucking hat. I don't think she understood, nor did anyone, that it would be worth thousands.

But no one understood except us Yeah, yeah like we it was so like tremendously valuable like the feeling of getting One of the cards you wanted and also you would trade for it There was a bit of strategy to it as well and just trying to like yeah You know every card was so purposeful or something in the holographic of it all like that was just like yeah I remember those are like the first deals like I remember like I Got in a fight with my cousin and my aunt called our house because he regretted trading A blastoise to me for a Venusaur and I was like, I'm sorry, but we did say no trade backs That's and that's a verbal contract. You got the Blastoise?

I got the Blastoise. That's a better card. 100%! I remember, I don't remember which card it was, but there was someone from like my, I think that was in fifth grade or something or middle school. That must have been hard. And yeah, this is my princess origin story. So what happened was there was this guy who was so sweet, very friendly guy.

Gay? No, I don't know. But I don't think so. That must have been really hard. And he basically what happened was he told me he had a card that I was looking for. And he was like, yeah, I actually have three of them. And I'm like, you have three of them. He said, yeah, I actually have three of them. You have three of them. He said, yeah, I do.

And so then I was like, well, I have this other one. Like I think I had two of like a rare one. And I was like, what if we trade? And he was like, yeah, absolutely. Like I can meet you, or if you wanna come after, like, I forget what happened. We somehow, basically what ended up happening was I had my mom drive me to his house. Like I forget what happened. We somehow basically what ended up happening was I

Had my mom drive me to his house. Yeah, but I feel like Like I don't think he actually explicitly was like we're you were meeting me at my home to exchange I think he was more like like sure like we could do it. This is like when a guy on Grindr is like Yeah, I'm horny. Yeah, I'm down He's like, yeah, I'm horny. I'm down. He's like, oh, I'm horny. I'm horny. You show up. It's nothing. It's like this is like the childhood version of him. You're like, come over.

I'll trade you like my Clefairy. And you show up and there's nothing of the sort. He only has the Cocoon. No, no, no. He didn't show me any cards. He was just like, he was like, oh, it's actually at my it's at my dad's house Like all the cards or so he just wanted to play with you you wanted to play with you But he keep he catfished you he meows fished you yeah Meow fish meow fish oh my god. Yeah, what was the fucking deal? Mew was sort of like it was like

Kind of like emo a little bit. I was just like... Misunderstood. Yeah. You think Mew is emo? Mew was a little bit emo. Oh no, Mewtwo. Mewtwo is emo.

Yeah, yeah, Mewtwo is emo. Mew was like, this is fine. Yeah, oh no, Mew is... And then it turns into like, he hardens. He hardens. He gay hardens. He gay hardens. The poor poor guy Mewtwo and then there's a movie the Pokemon movie I just remember that because he Mewtwo was

very scary yeah because capable of anything I don't know what that song was well not for nothing but Dark Horse is kind of Mewtwo coded. Duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh, duh Oh my god, thank you so much. Well, we have plans to do a singing show together at Joe's Pub. Yes, I remember. I'm only remembering now in the moment that we just said we were going to do a cabaret night. Yeah. What would it be? We'd sit on two ends of the stage and have some conversations. We'd stand up at the same time. Yeah, do stand up at the same time. Our own very different energetic sets.

And then meet. I'm like, so tops be like and bottoms be like. I'm doing like physical comedy, like to get away with not having written material. I'm like dropping it low and shaking my ass. People are like, ha ha ha, let him get away with it. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969

when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have

lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about. He was the kind of guy that used Confederate flags as window curtains, lived in a trailer

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in a whole new way. I can't wait to tell you all about Uncle Chris. Listen now to Uncle Chris on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never

forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us, on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book to screen casts for

years. And now, I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character, or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning river road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life

what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him, that would be the greatest honor. But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey. And then he became

the prey. Listen to The Turning, River Road, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's it like to have like juicy asses? Both of you are juicy ass queens. Please. What do you mean? Like in a physical sense? Yeah. Or like the energy? You answer that question.

Matt could drop it to the floor and people would erupt and scream. You can take a picture from behind. Oh, you've done like the bunny feet, the bunny feet. So if you if you don't know, Richard is, I think, also very famous for his bunny feet photos. Yeah, right. It's like the feet peeking. It's like it's like you're taking a photo above. Yes. You you you're kind of like on your knees, like on the ground and like your feet.

You're like sitting on your feet and your toes are kind of poking out of your bum. Yeah. Yeah. But you're taking a photo from above. So it just looks like a little like rabbit. Yeah. Like a little like a bunny feet. And I mean, people uncomfortable by. No, no, no. I'm I'm more comfortable now than I was. Yeah. I a little collar bunny feet as I'm making people uncomfortable by no no no I'm more comfortable now that I Glad you addressed it Yeah, I

Have I have Hank Hill ass you have a kill you're having Hank Hill has nothing Peggy Hill is the only member of the Hill family. The Hill that has an ass. That ass. That ass. So I have Hank Hill ass. And I.

But you have you have some of the most iconic legs. I was going to say I'd rather have I'd rather have a good ass. But having having such strong legs does make your ass sit higher. Like you don't have no ass. That's not true.

I understand that that might be a lie you're telling yourself. But like that's not true. I feel like I'm a catfish. Like I feel like my ass isn't like, it's not actually real. Richard. It's all an illusion. Can we just like not see it,

but like do you wanna like- Can you get up? I'm sorry. Unless you're uncomfortable with that. Can you twirl for us? Can you twirl? I mean like, I mean like,

Don't do this. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just so uncomfortable. Unless you're uncomfortable with that. Can you twirl for us? You twirl? I mean, what up? Don't do this. I'm saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm just so uncomfortable. No, no, no, because also what I'm wearing, I like, I just want it to keep the illusion of like, I don't know, maybe I'm like Arcade Fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's Arcade Fire. Yeah. How many people do you want to home to watch and say, that's Arcade Fire. Oh my God. Should we say the episode is with our kid fire They are doing with our key But if you would you would have to actually have hit the episode to know that it was Richard Perez

I'm we know should do that. We want everyone to know we want everyone to know right when they see the social Is this our kid fire We know should do that. We want everyone to know. blown away by how easy your access is and your resonators. Have you ever smoked a cigarette or had an alcohol beverage in your life? I, smoking I don't know how to do that. Really? I tried. And it goes bad? Like I bought a pack of cigarettes when I was like a freshman in college.

Cause you know it's like how you meet people to like everyone's outside I told you that must have been no like Louis where I went to college like my freshman sophomore year I was in Delaware first and it was there. This is my princess origin story princess of Delaware That's Ashley Biden's vibe OMG, wait, so you grew up in Delaware? No, no, no. So I'm the princess of New Jersey, but I did take a little bit of time. I spent some time in Delaware.

For the taxes? For the taxes. And I got in trouble with some stuff in Jersey. So my parents sent me to Delaware for two years and so then like I Wait, stop. What's the trouble? What was the trouble? Origin story Well, this has been hard whatever this is That's fake

Serious It's really good this is what I'm saying is like really really good your vocal stylings are like Liza Minnelli, Thank you so much. Your comedy stylings are like Liza Minnelli. Thank you so much. What was the trouble in Jersey? I think I was just like, I was indie and so like, um. Santa more. I was a bit mute at first and then I got mute too.

And so then like, I went to Delaware. I was like, I was a bit mew at first and then I got mew too. Okay, and so then like you get I was I gotta get away from here. Okay, okay, like indie emo Like I was just here. I gotta get away like this is like you guys like how old were you in Delaware? I was 18 freshman year of college. Okay. Okay UD no, no, no, this was a school that doesn't exist anymore called Delaware College of Art and Design It closed down like a couple years ago. DCAD. DCAD.

Did they call it DCAD? Mm-hmm. Like SCAD. Yeah. Like SCAD. And their sister schools, they were sister schools with Pratt and Corcoran. Oh wow. And so like people generally would go there and then transfer to either school.

And so that's what my mission was. I was like, I'm going to go here and then I ultimately want to get to New York. And then wait, when did you move to New York again? 2011. Right on time. Right on time. When did y'all move here? Huh? When did y'all move here? 2008. 2008. So we got here and then sort of everything changed, you know what I mean? Oh my god. Were you here when they got Bin Laden? Because that was 2011 was 2011 I don't actually I think that was in the beginning of the year Right bin Laden was me. I remember that really remember the the dog We are like where were you in bin Laden to be honest with you? I don't remember where I was when they got bin Laden. I feel like I was in my like

Like sophomore year like apartment when I found you were in Delaware still yeah and but no that the Thailand But when I when I moved to New York the next day the earthquake happened What earth which one there was an earthquake here there was not yes Now you're on August 2011. This is Mandela effect. Yeah, so then you moved in August. That's Effect is yes. Yes You guys Mandela effect is something that can happen when you start to think that Things are going a certain way

It was always different. Yeah, well that's a great way of putting it. What is it, Berenstain Bears? Berenstain or Berenstain? Oh yeah, Berenstain, yes. And it's Berenstain in this timeline. Yes. Got it.

But y'all don't remember the earthquake? Honestly, no, I don't remember the earthquake. I think I remember one happening more recently. There was yeah, it was one last some yes Summer but then it hasn't happened since this one in 2011 But you know even when I'm in LA, I don't feel them My group shadow be like earthquake all caps and I'll be like what really and like and I'll be like I didn't feel it I never feel them. Wow. I felt them maybe a couple times, one time famously when we were in Palm Springs in a restaurant.

That was fun. Not fun, I'm sorry. That was shocking. That was shocking. Woo hoo! Everything's knocking down. Cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. Ow!

Me when the big one hits. Hey, hey, hey, hey! Oh my God! Just like tossing it back. All right, let's talk about, yes! See, the vocal quality is, I'm telling you. Well, I mean, listen, I guess we just have to stop smoking. We just have to stop smoking.

Yeah, well, okay, yeah. So you're okay with this, you're okay with this. Weed for me, cigarettes for Moe, and also weed. So my princess origin. So like, I went to this very small art school and just, there was basically two of us I so I went to this very small art school and Just there was basically two dorms like or an apartment building that like students lived in and then there was a dorm and then the

School yeah, which was like really small okay, and people would hang out outside the dorm Just like smoking cigarettes and like whatever and so I was like trying to make friends and so this what I I was you know 18 so I was like okay I can buy cigarettes so I went for it and then I just I don't know anytime I've tried to smoke I just like end up like coughing for like 30 minutes and I don't know how to like inhale same with your not supposed to inhale Right. You're not supposed to no, I'm sorry. You are Like it takes me it so when Bo and Yang whips out cigarettes, which is every day I'm not really but sure Is has it been more recently because we've been doing a lot and the sort of becomes it waves

What is it with you and cigarettes like when you you whip out a cigarette, like why are you doing that physiologically? It's a first stress. Oral fixation and stress. It's like, what let's say I'm going to say it's like six a week. Okay. And I do it for community, which is like, I would never think to buy it by myself, but when there's one around, like I will have a cigarette with Bowen or a friend. Right.

around like I will have a cigarette with Bowen or a friend. Right. But it takes me a second every time to not cough. Right. I'm not because I smoke so much weed and that is, of course, a different mechanism. Even weed, too. Like I tried to get into it and every time vaping is what I'm like, oh, baby, I like a hookah bars like. Well, especially when you first moved to New York. Did you have the same experience when I first moved to New York? I was going to hookah bars a lot. Oh my god

We say mark like I'm a fucking adult the hookah era of New York member Horace on Avenue a I actually do Yeah, I think it's still there. Really. I think it is hookah bar. Like the theme is like it's like right by the bagel place Tom or whatever there's probably a lot of bagel places. New York City, huh? Anyway, we can't be sure Yeah Can you do try whistle sound I feel I feel scared. Yeah, that's probably cool. Spread your wings and fly.

Did you have a whistle tone when you were young, I would imagine? I did, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to listen to my, I would visit my dad on the weekends and he would buy me like right the Mariah Carey like a dad he Bought me like her greatest hits album like the black and white one number one Yeah, and then he also bought me the Celine Dion one one of them. Yeah, the one that's like all the way. Yes Yeah, yeah all the way and then Whitney Whitney

Such a good cover. The Whitney one is great because the first one, the red one, is the ballads and the blue one. The remixes. Yeah. So Whitney had so many good ones. Yes. She probably out of the three of them, that was probably the best greatest hits. Yeah, definitely.

Takes you on such a journey. I mean, yeah. It's such a journey. There's a remix of Queen of the Night on that. Yes! Incredible. Oh yeah! Oh yeah!

Oh yeah! Yes! See what I'm saying? Oh, it's so good. So like, my dad, like, on the weekends we would go, I'd visit him and he would bring me with, like he cleaned offices on the weekends He cleaned offices and listen to divas No, no, no like on the weekends like he would like drive us there like me and my brother

But then we would like hang out sometimes we'd help him But mostly we were just like there was vending machines with like free candy So we were just like hang out there Don't your dad's office where there's free soda, free candy. Perfect. And then they figure it out. And so would you invite all that? I would have my headphones on blasting. Addison Rae. Yeah, literally. You are Addison Rae.

You are the Addison Rae of comedy. You really are. That's the princess that you are. Princess Addison. Oh, my gosh. That's a good title. That's a good title. Kakuna Gay Harder. Princess Addison. Oh my gosh. That's a good title. Princess Addison. Princess Addison Arcade Fire. Gay Hardin.

Might be too many words. No. Just make sure my name is first. Richard Perez, Princess Addison Arcade Fire. You're really quiet. We can't really understand you. Well, I bet just... Are you doing ASMR? Just make sure you guys include my name, please.

We'll include your name. That was just a bit. I think on the subject of your voice, unless this makes you uncomfortable, because I did earlier ask you to show your ass to everyone, which I don't know why. No. But I think, I think,

what is it about your sensuality as a performer? Because it's really magnetic. You lead with it. Thank you. What is it about my sensuality? Well, because like, I think one of the thing that shook. Shook me. I'll always remember this is just it's just the moments of you.

Posting videos where it's it's you know POV of you getting fucked I think that was when it changed for me that's what I was like okay this is a Comedy Central comic to watch yeah and anyway which the companion piece to that is the album which I was trying to find either day by the way I couldn't couldn't, was the Alamo Drafthouse film that gets interrupted because someone, because what? Because people are using their phones or something.

Because people are using their phones, and you came on screen as the general manager of the Alamo Drafthouse saying, guys, put your, I'm so scared, put your fucking phones away. But it would be during these like love making scenes while you were in the closet at work. You were like, ah, ah! Like, you were, like, see, I try to do it now and I felt self-conscious and I was like,

I can't totally tap into that. Maybe I used to. I mean, I mean, I could, I definitely am so self-conscious, like sexually. But like, I don't know. I think maybe it's because if the real thing is happening. I'm like What yeah, yeah, so it's a place to externalize if it's just like yeah like in the fantasy fantasy of it I get that I can totally just like Like I've been trying to merge the two yeah, I'm trying to too. You know what I mean

I recently had phone sex which I've never done in my life And it was so fun on the phone. Okay. Yeah Phone call. Yeah, just a regular phone call and it was spontaneous and like The we were on the phone for like an hour and a half. Hi, it's like so we were like building a scene and like Yeah, it was so fun like and I was like getting used to like my voice earnestly saying things Just like I'm like, this is my sexual like Self like my true like desire something

I'm like, let me like try to like own it right now because I hide behind it as like joking around and stuff But you know and being like, yeah, you know doing these bits and even like live performances and stuff like that, but I was like let me try to like Express this in a true way and then After like 30 minutes of that then we were like so like where did you grow up? Okay, so it started in a sexual place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had pillows out, yeah. You had pillows out.

Yeah, it was fun. You know, I actually think that people are onto something with this thing of like, if you like somebody, really with gays, like have sex first and then go to dinner and stuff, because then you don't have to like negotiate whatever the hell that all is. You know what I mean?

Right, right. If you find that you can get on the same page as someone, like, oh, we like each other and we're sexually interested in each other, I've actually found that that's actually a nice way to date someone is to be like, okay, we're not in our heads the entire time we're hanging out thinking about

whether or not we're gonna kiss, whether or not we're gonna have sex, how far it's gonna go. You figure that out immediately. If that part doesn't go great Then you kind of save the time totally not to say lead with sex and like that's better But I'm just saying as an option It's been I think something especially if you get in your head like to kind of like break the ice that way

Exactly, and then especially because I feel like every day, and I'm getting better with it But I feel like I'm like performing a little or an instant that and I'm also thinking like the whole time. It's like there's like a intrusive thought It's just like he's on into you. I can't stop thinking those things. He's looking his eyes shifted. He's He's disengaging for me. It's I'm always Fixated on what it's not about sex. It's whether or not we're gonna kiss yeah I can feel the dates ending like I'm like what's gonna happen and I'm just like and then and then on the outside I'm just like huh yeah yeah to the point where I'm like when the food comes I actually get I get upset when this why do you get upset because when the food comes it's like oh my god like we moved on to another stage of this

We're getting closer to the end. We're gonna find out That part right? That's entirely an anxious response you identify with that It's cuz I it's cuz we were actually just talking about this on the walk over here Like we have two very different responses to being anxious Yeah, like I have like a very anxious response to things and he has a like a more like I guess what you call like a Depressive dude. Yeah, it goes down. Yeah, I go Okay, like and then and then it's just a downward slope, but both valid

Do you mean like you kind of withdraw or something? Are you like this is like I withdraw and this is To matt's point about leading with sex or just starting with it being I'm gonna say for me. It sounds like the better option because this is what happens. I've been on either side of this where You go on dates. They're great. And then For some reason the anxiety of sex coming up is the thing that like and if it doesn't go well Like what does this mean? Then people pull away or they pull away before the sex even happens.

So then if you're ripping the seal off of sex and then you're like, okay, pressure's off, let's just get to know each other, like the pillow talk after the phone sex. Then it's like, low stakes. Right. You're also a lot less likely to perform or like be fake or be a version of yourself

that's not true, if someone has already seen like your hole up close. You know what I mean? I don't know why it went to balls, it went to a hole. I mean, that says a lot too, depressive, anxious. You know what I mean? That's just sort of the binary up in here. Balls, hole.

Balls is depression. Balls is depressive. For me, balls is depression. Yeah, honestly, the whole is so anxious. I just don't, balls for me, maybe it's because mine are so sensitive and whenever guys are interacting with them, it's like hurt, it's like painful.

When guys want me to like lick their balls, suck their balls, like I'm always just like, okay. I mean, it's not my favorite. I don't like balls, but I love balls. Yeah, I don't crave it, but I'm like, this is cute. Balls, balls like depression. It's just something that's there. Are you a ball? Do you like balls?

Balls, it depends. Every now and then I'm like, balls. Are your balls resilient? I would say they are. I've got good balls. Yeah, I think I do too. I think mine are good. I mean, they certainly work. It's just like I'm producing Yeah, but I don't but they are incredibly sensitive holes are hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole hole Who should do an impression? You should do that in the show. This is my impression of a hole. Yeah. Oh my God. How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna do this?

How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna do this? How am I gonna do this? I can't take two or nothing. Nice to meet you. I feel insane. Oh my God. Yes, go Wade.

That's he. Yeah. That's hole. I'm so much more comfortable with my hole than my balls. Like my hole, please. I wanna get there so bad. Me too. Oh golly.

Golly. I really wanna get there. It's like a fucking golly. Why golly? Damn. Damn. I don't know there so bad. Me too. Golly. I really want to get there. Why golly? Damn. Damn. I don't know what it is, but maybe it's because, well whatever. I was so, so, so not okay with anyone doing whole stuff to me until later. And then when I became that way, I was like, oh my God, it's like, That's when my life begins.

And you know what's crazy is like that's a Mandy Moore song. And I think like, you know, she loves the podcast. Like, she's probably going to hear me talk about like, Uh, comfort with holes. On the top of my lungs, I'm living near you, minute down. So I lay my head back down. And I lift my hands and pray to be only yours. I pray to be only yours. I pray to be only yours I pray To be only yours I pray To be only yours I pray

To be only yours I know now You're my only home You're my only home You're my only home You're my only home You know it's not the first time we've done that entire part of the song You know it's not the first time we've done that entire part of the song When was the last time?

2011, the earthquake I think it's happened since, but maybe. I don't know about y'all, but probably that comes up as a thing to sing at least once a year. Absolutely. Oh, at least. It's one of the great songs, actually. It really is. I would call it one of the great scenes in film, too. Absolutely. I also just love like, like I recently rewatched Laguna Beach and there's that one. Oh my god, you did? Did you see LC on Kristin Cavallari's podcast? Uh, no.

LC is on Kristin Cavallari's podcast. It's huge. This is recent? Yeah. I have to watch that. That's culture. I'm immediately going to watch that after this. Of course.

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Yeah. What was your take on Kristin and Elsie? I would love to know in a 2025 lens. I think I mean Okay from mind you I watched this five years ago. Okay, and a lot has happened. So you're watching in 2020 Yeah, so everything was all fucked up. Yeah I don't necessarily remember so the details of their dynamic, but I do feel like I Mean I relate to both of them. I feel like right. I'll see was a bit more like

Maybe insecure or something like she seemed more a your ish to me like she was always else he was always I mean obviously like she's the iconic She's what she's more balls? I think Elsie is balls. No, Kristin Connery is definitely whole. No, for sure. And this is a binary that makes perfect sense to me. No, Elsie is balls. For sure. Yes.

Elsie is balls. Remember when Elsie didn't go to Paris? Yes. I think about that every day. I think about that every day. What would you have done? I would have gone to Paris. Well, yes.

What was the name of the guy? The guy who was in Paris? The guy't go to Paris. Yes. She was always like that. I think about that every day. I think about that every day. What would you have done? I would have gone to Paris. Well, yes. What was the name of the guy? Justin Bobby? No, Jason. Jason. Oh, my God. Justin Bobby is Audrina's guy. And what were you? What's your take on Audrina? Audrina is like, I love her. I love her. I love a person that's just like kind of like smiling and kind of like

Dead-eyed a little bit. She's like I don't see like what I did wrong Like I don't know but I feel for her like I feel like she is like put in these circumstances that are like stressful Right and she's kind of trying to like make Things I don't know trying to diffuse things. Yeah, she's trying to diffuse. You know, I would really relate to that. You relate to that. Is this anything that I'm doing right now? Like, this is my Audrey Knight impression.

That's Audrey. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. You know, I will never forget. When she's uncomfortable, when she's happy. Like ketamine. And it's kind of like, I don't know, even like Courtney Kardashian has that too. I would agree.

Where there's always a smile while like. They're the same tone. I love that. Yeah. Like, I love that tone. They're the same tone. I love that. Yeah. Like I love that tone. They're the same tone. They're, wait. I love that tone.

Audrina is pussy? If Lauren is balls. You know Audrina, like this is my favorite Audrina Patrick fact. And this is something that I think, do the math only I know. Okay. If any of you know this, please let me know.

Audrina Patrick won an award for acting in Sorority Row. It was called the Show West Female Star of Tomorrow Award that they gave to the entire cast of Sorority Row, which people forget that Audrina Patrick was in it, but so was Rumer Willis. And the entire cast won this award. And I swear to God, it was the same award that like and half the way had Won when she was like a no-go

Every I'm gonna look why don't we know this I'm gonna look like the history of the female I don't know what sorority row is either, but I want to I want to share a quick thing about Audrina Patrick what you don't know sorority row no You're a horror girl. Oh No, it's a horror movie girl I'm not a horror girl. Share the Adrena story. I will never forget my Adrena sort of thing that I will always associate with her is, there was an Us Weekly, mind you,

this was the Mid-Aughts where they were doing celebrity diets and her quote, it's her in a bikini and then a big burst in a bubble, it's her quote, she says, sometimes you don't have to eat the whole burger. I'll eat a burger and I'll have a couple bites and I'll put it down and I'll have a couple bites and I'll put it down. And I thought at the time, wow, that's so incredible.

The most, I'm sorry, ED thing. Like possibly. Totally. Like these poor girls were fucking on TV, like in their teens and twenties, like being like fucking like picked apart. Like, I don't know if the culture was ever good around reality TV, like in terms of the audience, but like I feel like with those Hills,

with those Laguna Beach Hills people, I'm like, oh my God, you were put through the fucking wringer. And I remember watching one episode of The City with Whitney and then being done. Literally I'm right. Okay, wow. 2009, they won the female star of Tomorrow and literally so was Vanessa Hudgens.

Wow. So as Chris Pine, Emile Hirsch, Abigail Breslin, Shia LaBeouf. This goes all the way back to Mark Hamill won it. But Emma Roberts in 2007. Look, Brandon Routh, Jennifer Hudson won in 2006. Like, what's this award called? It's the it's the Show West Star of Tomorrow Award. And they would pick like a male and a female and they would give out the awards

and Audrina Patridge as part of the cast of Sorority Row won this award. Wow. Who's the most recent person to win it? Let's see. It was... Yeah, they're still doing it. I bet she's a fantastic actor. I don't think I've seen her work.

I think you kind of have to be like a bit of a vessel. A vessel. Let's see. I think Els kind of have to be like a bit of a vessel. A vessel. See, I think Elsie was maybe... Had more like... Had too much space in the vessel. You know what I mean? Like I was more... I love Lauren Conrad for life.

Yeah, I love her. I was watching for Spencer and Heidi. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Spidey. I mean, I could literally look at that list all day and see like, it's like, it's like a best new artist thing. It's like who actually made it who didn't? Like Hailee Steinfeld 2013 made it.

Totally. Anyway. Yeah. No, just fucking Heidi and Spencer. Like they had staying power too. They did. And still like they're still in the culture in a way. Absolutely.

You know what I mean? Oh my gosh. It makes news when she, what didn't she because her wig artist her wig artist like just popped off kind of pulled a prank on Her on a carpet recently. Oh really prank on her. Yeah Hairline was low That's all that's all that happens. Yeah, truly truly. It does happen to me. Yeah, what on SNL? Those airlines are right. No J to me. What on SNL? No, those hairlines are right. No, Jodie Queen.

Yeah. Wait, I want to know more about this. Well, you don't have to go into it. Wait, what was the culture that made you say culture was for you? You know, this is what we actually have to have answered. We're all right. I've okay. By the way, I've listened to this podcast for you. You know, we actually have to have it. We have to worry. I've okay by the way I've listened to this podcast for years stop since like I got into it around like 2018 Really? Yeah, and like I I used to work like at an office job

And I was just like listen this before I was performing and I was just like listen to you guys and like find out about Like so many comedians. I'm like now like such a big fan of and some of friends I've become friends with oh like you know um I didn't know that you didn't know I like you never told us that you never told us. Thank you for that and they and so this like feels so surreal to be chatting with both of you We love a guest and We burst into tears with both of you. We was a guest and we burst into tears.

Actually, and I remember one time I met you really briefly at Metro. But it was such a quick exchange and I was like so starstruck and I was like, I was like, hi Bowen, I listen to your podcast. I love it. I was like, I have to pee. Yeah. Yeah. You put your hand in my face.

And then you did a shot. I'm trying to take my shot. Yeah, and then you shut up bitch. I'm trying to take my shot Yeah, and then you took a shot of your big poofy dress. Yeah, your ass of fat. Oh So you're gaslighting my ass now. Well, no you you had the the bounce. Oh my god that thing I always wondered what that hair was I know, that's a gay thing. We's like, we all wanna know what that is. We all wish we had. I know, I think of like Cinderella.

Like didn't her sisters. Yeah, like Cinderella's mother. Like, come, come, come girls. And they would leave different. Yeah, and they bounce. Come, come, come girls. Come, come, come girls. And they would say, and then they would snarl

on the way out because here's the thing about Cinderella's stepmother and the sisters. They at least knew they were awful. Yeah, they knew they were rotted. They never even tried to be nice They were never they they lived it snorted it and fucked it. Yeah, truly. Yeah, truly So what was the culture that made you sick? Sorry, um, so funny enough that we're talking about the hills and all this stuff. I wrote down in my notes that my Culture, okay, so this isn't okay. It's to the year

2007 is what I will say is my answer for like Culture that made me say cultures for me. Like I feel like it's such a big year in media culture like the world but But even just like personally for me I feel like that was definitely like a time that I took things in in a different way and especially trying to visualize like what my life could look like and starting to have like Really more vivid dreams of like oh like a city life of you know either la or New York or you know? Gossip Girl came out Yeah

Like there was I don't know even like the music like getting like more like indie and stuff like that like I feel like that Was around that time what were the what were the touch points so? Girl Brittany VMAs Gossip Girl Brittany blackout yeah a blackout of course oh I started working at Panera Bread Gossip Girl, Britney, Blackout. Yeah, Blackout of course. I started working at Panera Bread. Was this already, so Panera Bread was already huge though, right? This actually, Panera was-

Panera was like- The new girl in 2007. Literally, Panera Bread will always live on the same byline to me as Kristin Cavallari. I mean, I do feel like- Whole I mean, I do feel like they were both at their Imperial phase at the same time. Panera bread and, and by the way, I have Panera bread like three times a week.

You know I have the You Pick Two all the time. But I can recognize that it was around that time that they were at their peak. You Pick Two is still to this day one of the best food systems, period. Yes, absolutely. 100%. And you don't need more than that. No, no.

Well, here's what I'd say, you get your half sandwich and I always do get the bowl of soup. Yeah, I sometimes get a salad. I get the food that you can have a salad. Sure, sure, sure. Once in a while. But I start working at Panera in 2007. I started I worked at Panera bread in 2007. So what were you doing? They would like move us around. So like, I mostly did like cashier or like I'd clean the dining room like duty. So to stream. The Panera Bread, didn't you think? Panera Bread was one of the chains and Delta Work knows what I'm talking about.

Yeah, yeah. Always their soda machines, I felt, were some of the better quality. Yeah, really? Yes. Good carbonation. Yeah. But also, OK, like when I started working there, they told us in training that, you know, like their ethos or I don't know, like they were kind of just like, we're a break from the day to day, like life, you know, like work and all this crazy commotion that we're an oasis from all of that. Panera is an oasis.

So we would never- Rule culture number 100, Panera is an oasis. So that was what you were told. But they were like, we would never open in a major city. Lying ass. Oh my god, that's capitalism for you. So then like, that's 2007. The second they could sell out.

But then what's crazy is that when, cause then like, when I went to college, like when I was in Delaware, I would work at, I would be home on the holidays or summer and I would work at Panera. In Jersey. In Jersey, yeah. And so then I would work there again, but then I was officially done with it when I moved to New York. And then guess what happened?

They opened in 2011. In Chelsea? J Street. J Street Metro Tech? Yeah. Whoa! Because I feel like I associate the New York Panera as you know what I'm going to say. Yeah, the Chelsea one.

I was going to say Union Square. Oh my god! The Chelsea one is the Union Square'm gonna say. Yeah, the Chelsea one. I was gonna say Union Square. Oh my god, which is close. The Union Square one of course. What? It's closed. The Union Square one closed? I think so. And so did the TGI Fridays. This city is going down.

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You give me the free buses? I'll give you the free song. ZORON Wow, and you had texture on that one. That was giving... Yeah. You give me the free buses. I'll give you the free bus. Yeah, a little tip. The run. Wow, you had texture on that one. That was giving. The run. The run. That was giving like spring scene.

Yeah. The run. The run. Do you ever like, do you ever think about throwing on a hey, at the end, like Jennifer Holliday? No. The run. Yes. Like road! Yes!

Yes! Yes! Wait, so Panera? Yeah, so I started working at Panera Bread, and then also I started going to New York City, like for the first time, like alone, or with friends, so without my parents. And so, like, one of my friends, For the first time like alone. Yeah, or with friends. So without without my parents and so

like like one of my friends like she Moved to our our town a few years prior and she grew up in Brooklyn And so she moved just to New Jersey From Brooklyn. So yeah, she and she was like so stylish, so funny. She knew something that you didn't. She just like had fantastic taste too and like music, like everything. I just thought she was so cool.

And so like, like me, her, and like my like bestie, like we would go, like she would be like, do you guys want to come with me to. Oh my God. To Soho. To Soho. And you know, we can go shopping. would go like she would be like do you guys want to come with me to oh my god I'll fly to SoHo and you know we can go shopping and you know I was just starting to make money at Panera Bread so like I would save some of that and then we go to SoHo and go to like American Apparel and like Urban Outfitters and like that was like couture and like that was that far so like no one this isn't in our malls just yet

yeah or if it is it's like far away from the one that I I remember American Apparel being I actually distinctly remember walking in there the right across from NYU tish there was one yes and I remember being like I'm gonna buy something nice for myself I'm gonna really splurge and spend 50 bucks. Yeah. Yes Green zip up hoodie and there's $28 T-shirts like the first wash but the deep fees were you doing a deep V? Yes, we all were come on If you're out here saying I never wore a v-neck Yes, you did unless you were Mandela affecting. Yeah, you are in a different timeline that merged with ours. Don't act like you're not.

Yeah. Don't act like you're not a hole. Don't act like you're not bald. OK. Exactly. Even if it wasn't like a deep V, you were doing a V. You were doing. Because they did give. There was different iterations of the V neck there. Yeah. Remember, there was the one

because I remember for reality show, we had to wear them. A shallow V. There was a shallow V, which I chose, and then there was a deep V, which some people were choosing, and it was the very frosted tipped vibes at the time where I was like, I know this, not gonna age well. No one's gonna like later the pictures of you in the deep V. Oh my gosh.

But a deep V on someone who had tits was so important. Yeah. I need to see that. I miss cleavage. Male cleavage? Any cleavage. Yeah. Male cleavage. Any cleavage? Well, female cleavage is still around. Not as much.

Yeah. You remember a couple of years ago when people were doing the thing, like male celebrities were doing the thing of like just a jacket, nothing underneath. Right. Yeah. And then you knew it was over when the other two made fun of it. I like I beg my friend, my best friend Olivia, I like beg her like every other day.

I'm like, just please show them. You're a boob gay like me. Yeah. Are you a boob gay? I'm like just wear, yeah, totally, I am. We're out here. Yeah. You know what I mean?

And I'm just like, show it, come on. What do you wanna see, like the whole thing? Yeah, I don't know. I'm always like joking with her. I'm just, she's like, what should I wear to like this event or whatever? And I'm just like, nasty ass. Well, I'd have to. I'm always like joking with her. I'm just she's like, what should I wear to like this event or whatever? and I'm just like well, I'd have to see your bodycon like

fucking like tits pouring out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, just like a really like bodycon bring that back. Yeah, I want and she's like no Yeah, I want and she's like no Guys yeah me too. You know, I would wear that body stocking for guys. They have it I know but it's like it's like it's like a wrestling singlet. You know what I mean? Have you ever worn male Spanx? Yes, I have kind of fun. I was living I'm like Yeah, it's very, I'm a drive in your car baby. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la. Zoran!

Diet Pepsi. Zoran! They should collab. Zoran and Addison, that, it would go off. Iconic. Honestly, Diet Pepsi with Zoran from back in the day rapping on a feature. Oh my God.

That's how you get elected this November. Oh my God. That's how you get the people on the that's how you get the homosexuals to come your way. Oh, sure. Yeah. We got to get, we got to clinch. The homosexuals are politically homeless now.

You know what I mean? Right, right. They don't know where to go. They don't know where to go. Unless you run. Come here baby, come here. Wait, so I think we need to really explore 2007 yes. Yes. Okay, so besides Panera what was so great about it?

What the hills was the P game? Yeah Hills was peeking gossip girl chest came out and like I also feel like and this might be so dumb and I think maybe just like Growing up or something and also like things have changed tremendously of course then like in the world, but like I Felt like at that time like indie movies or indie music or something like felt like oh me and like five people in New Jersey Know about this no one else like you truly Feel yeah, like I'm like no one else knows about passion pit, but they were actually like They were very big and now things are just so much more broken down or something or much much more It's ironic It's like things that you think would be more mainstream today are actually a niche and then the things that you were like convinced

That was it was just yeah, you and five other people were huge things were Yeah, massive. So like rilo Kylie like I remember like um Vh1 like artists you ought to know or something that felt like a true like I'm like, oh we're we're stepping into this like unknown territory or something Or Barnes and Noble like flip through like spin magazine. Yeah, spin magazine? Yes, oh my god spin. Oh my god details Clap your hands say yeah, like who who are they? Yeah Sufjan Stevens I'm specifically thinking of my friend Alison Coelho who was my bestie in high school

And we would do these things together passion pit was huge for her and What you just said which was Sufjan Stevens was huge for her. And I remember we went to go see the movie 500 Days of Summer. And I thought it was like, I thought I saw like Red Rocket. I was like, I just saw the indie film of the year. And it was literally like, well in 2007,

the very successful movie. In 2007, Juno came out. Yes! And that had a tremendous influence like what part on me just like the tone of the movie the like the acting the music the soundtrack was just like I brought I used to bring a bag of CDs with me everywhere I would I always been headphones I've always been headphones on my whole life like or at least like a few years leading into 2007 I got you know me

too because I would always just like bring them with me and just kind of like and I brought a little bag with CDs and and I would just like change them if I wanted to and kind of just like start living in my little world. Yeah. But also like it was a bit of a defense like or a protective thing because people definitely would shout things like from their car and you know like say like unkind things and so I was just like okay like this I'm listening to you know Coldplay or like Mariah. Why Coldplay?

Or like Vampire Weekend like I'm like I'm good like I'm just like, you know Having a day right now. And so, you know, I felt like that just that soundtrack was just like really really Influential and the I don't know that was like one of those projects that made me think like oh, maybe I don't know I want to like in a real way. I'm asking this. Did you feel like seen by the character? I guess so. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I guess I did. Yeah. Because humor was a defense mechanism for her.

Totally. Yeah. Yes. And then also I just developed a massive crush on Michael Cera. Of course. And that led me to like Arrested Development. Oh yeah. And like Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist. Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist.

And I was just like, okay, well I gotta and Nora's infinite make a noise Okay, well I got a move to New York. That's beautiful. Nick and Nora is such an underrated Yeah, but you know, you know what scene I'm like that Ellie page doesn't get the credit for what is when after like Jason Bateman like puts a move on Juno And she the character Juno like gets in the van, drives, pulls over to the side of the road. And it's just that shot of Juno just being like, like best car crying scene. Yes, truly.

So underrated. You know what I mean? It's not that. It's so heartbreaking. Really good hands on the wheel breakdown act. Yes. In a time when it wasn't a trope. Right.

Not really, you know? But also recently someone referenced this like as a joke and I was like it just like took me back because I haven't watched that movie in a while right, but the like part where they do a montage with like Sea of Love like Cat Power. I love that cover. And she's like like Hap Power. I love that cover of stuff. And she's like,

Juno is like, I think he was always hers. And then it cuts to like Jennifer Garner. Jennifer Garner's so good at it. She framed the note that said, if you're in, I'm in. That Juno wrote. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. And I was like, ah! Did you know that, not to interrupt,

Jam Sesh was an improvised line by Jennifer Garner. Oh really Her read of Can you hear me baby Jennifer Garner in that arrow was in her By the way 13 going on I saw that for the first time like what did you think? I was weeping I didn't expect it to be that like it's incredible By the way like also all of alias. Yeah This was like what made JJ Abrams yeah, yeah, yeah in many ways

Well, like this was like she's like a spy alias. There's certainly no loss. There's no loss Because I Jennifer Garner there's no alias popping off the way. Yeah. Yeah, they were in tandem No, Jennifer the pilot of alias is is one of the great pilots. Mmm, like they it's just so good It's Jared Freeders Favorite show of all time. Yeah. Yeah He loves alias. Do you know Jared? No favorite show of all time. Love. Yeah. Oh my God. He loves alias. Do you know Jared?

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Was that in tandem with that? I guess. No, I don't know. Did your friend who lived, who came from Brooklyn, did she like, cause we actually talked about this with Josh and Aaron on their episode a couple weeks ago where it was like behind every gay guy, like millennial gay guy is like a straight girl

in honors English, quote unquote, who like told you like what to listen to, told you what to watch, told you what to do. And so this girl, Kayla Sturback, one year from my birthday bought me the hipster handbook, which is like totally off of Urban Outfitters, but back when that was like the cool thing to do, buy books from Urban, the whole thing was like,

hipsters don't call themselves hipsters, like hipsters like just like move in silence and all these things. And like, yeah, I think it did like go out of control with like, I don't know, like something, you know what? Something kind of like, I'm gonna put something out there. Once Solange came on the scene and like bridged the gap between like indie hipster music and like pop music

in a way, like things started to like blend into one and then maybe got subsumed because Beyonce, it influenced Beyonce. So Lounge doesn't get the credit for the way she changed everything. It trickled up. You know what I mean? I had literally just moved here and like losing you. Oh, everything. And the music video. Yeah. Oh my God. And same with like 212, like, yeah,

Azalea Banks, like Dancing On My Own, like Robin. I don't know, like, there was this like... It did feel like there was, there was like mainstream pop at the time, and then there was like what the cool girls were doing. Even in music at large, not to just say pop, because we actually in, we were in Paris, like a couple of weeks ago, because we were seeing Beyonce,

and we were talking about Beyonce, about how everything changed between I Am Sasha Fierce and Four. And we were talking about like what it was, and it was like obviously when she got rid of Matthew, her dad as her manager, but really I think it was Solange. I think Solange being as cool

and having less expectation than Beyonce, made Beyonce look at her sister and be like I Want to do what my sister is doing or something closer to that? Yep, cuz then then was that then after that was the digital title. Yeah Yeah, because it was so long and it was so long going to like a dirty projectors concert. Totally. It was Beyonce and Jay-Z going to a grizzly bear concert. Beach House Beach House. And that's that's when things started to sort of like.

Yeah, true. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think I do think pop music. Swallowed a little bit of that up. Totally. You know what I mean? Absolutely. So, yeah, because it's and now it just feels like um, I Can't tell if like how what's where we're at now with like Pop music or like what would say what would be alternative or like well cuz in that time I was like in the totally like right like I don't know my listening habits now are so weird where I'm like I like

ten years ago Now 12 years ago 2013. I was like, you know what? I am really gonna curate these like These like unknown artists these like these like artists that feel very independent along with like my pop music and now it is all pop Yeah, I've lost that like totally also pop now means so many things as genre has broken down like now It's like like Addison like yep, you know like she's pop She's but she feels she's like so straightforward pop but but that's because I think And I think one of the reasons why she's like the pop girlie of the moment is because it does. She's like weirdly playing with. A lot of retro this as well.

Right. Right. Right. That's what it feels like. And that's what makes it feel the most current. Like, I feel like I have not kept up in the ways that I should when I'm like, oh, there's a great new like spoon album out. Right. And I'm like, and I don't know if I like gave them the regular listening that I like since like 2011 2012 I don't even know what spoon is Oh

OC coded soundtrack. Yes, you know what I mean? I had the soundtrack. Yeah, I used to put my bag of CDs. I was in there. Was it okay It was in an actual bag or was it buying a bag? Like and then I had a binder too But I think I would like have the binder home and then bring Free it was too big. It's too big. So then I would just like bring a few CDs. I would like make us Select which ones I'm like, okay. I'm gonna was it Windows Media Player burning CDs or was it iTunes?

I didn't know these were I bought all you bought bought I'm sorry. I was scared to torrent I was way too scared to like download viruses or getting either the cops getting down your door Yeah, I was literally like something will happen. It did feel at the time Yeah, like the lawsuits that were happening in the news, it was like, oh, that's like I'm next. Because I had a crazy Napster. Like I was I was a thief. I was like really, really, really down on a lot of bad stuff.

Not us. The viruses that your computer would get to would be so crazy. No, they'd be gnarly. They'd be gnarly. And then there's so much that the virus narrative really stayed with you for a while. 100 percent. Like I'm still pretty scared of like down. Well then they said, oh, it's Apple. You can't get viruses. You really can't. But yeah, you can. You don't really get viruses on Apple stuff anymore. Yeah, I don't think so. But I mean, who knows?

It seems like anything could happen with yeah, this is a perfect device You know you have so much to learn see this yeah, what is that? You get that break the glass It's called an Octo-something. It's so good. You can take it in. This is how you do your set checks. Wait, hold on. Wait, get in.

Come over here. This isn't going to be the photo of the episode, ready? Hold on. Get in. One, two. It has to be that. That will be the photo. Oh my god. It has to be that The new flip phone

It's the new flip phone Feel like a little cocatish what I make in my bathroom and I just like Let's talk to me what's going on Okay What's up, talk to me, what's going on? Are you okay? Yeah. But I do feel bad whenever I do that to the mirror because then you see the marks on it. Oh, the stops at the cups. It's not a perfect science, but. Right, I need to get one.

I have two. Do you want one? But he's got, see that's what he, this is what he's got. And who's this? This is balls. Jigglypuff. That's Jigglypuff. It's a fidget spinner on a. Fidget spinner Jigglypuff.

This makes so much sense. Yeah. Balls hole. Balls hole. Yeah, literally. Oh my God. This is sucking up. Oh my God.

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Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh Oh You know, it's really not wait and yours is like For everyone at home that's just listening to this

We are sort of looking at each other's phone gadgets and and I have something that like you can stick to the mirror and Jigglypuff and Bowen has like Jigglypuff Jigglypuff Jigglypuff Gender Jigglypuff right now Yeah, what is

In the show, what's the Jigglypuff's gender in the show? Because Bowen thinks he knows and I think I know I think Jigglypuff right now. Yeah, what is, what are the hormones? What's the Jigglypuff's gender in the show? Because Bowen thinks he knows and I think I know. I think Jigglypuff in the show is he. Okay. That's not what Bowen thinks. I think she, she her. They them. They them.

I don't think any of the Pokemon's have gender. That's true. They actually do. I really don't. They do? They do. Oh, actually maybe some's true. They actually do. I really don't. They do? Really? Oh, actually maybe something like. Is that actually true?

Yeah, of course. Oh, you guys haven't played since gen one. It's been so long. So there's no female Pikachu. There is a female Pikachu. She looks the same as a male Pikachu. The only, there are certain Pokemon that appear different and evolve to branch out

evolutionarily based on their gender. So Nidoran goes to Nidorina or Nidorina and then Nido-King Nido-Queen. But then there are other things where like a female, you know, a female, I think, Snorunt goes into Froslass. But a male Snorunt goes into- See, that's after the 150 and that means I recognize them.

So, no. This is the thing with the 150. You know,. So some of them there's only one, right? There's only one of the three. There's one Mew, there's one legendary bird. Oh, legendary, I said mystic bird. Jinx, yes, Jinx, there's some, Miltank is always female. Jinx is always female, yes. You know what Pokemon I literally never got to fuck with

because I didn't have the version of the game that they were In I think they were in blue version. I only had red and then yellow magmar Could never fuck with Magmar never don't even know her never had her him. I don't know. Yeah That one can be there are there are yes most Pokemon are are are any gender sexy Doesn't matter Yes, most Pokemon are any gender. Yeah, they're all sexy. Doesn't matter if you love him or capital H-I-M. M-M-M. B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B-B- My mother told me when I was young We were almost superstars We pulled my hair but my dad got old Him and Lala Mama's love There's nothing wrong with loving who you are

She's scared cause he made you perfect babe The road ahead is better, you'll go far Listen to me when I sing How beautiful is my way Cause got me so stank I'm on the right track, baby, I was born this way Come on and tell me Wait, what is it?

Don't hide yourself in regret, just love yourself and you said I'm on the right track, baby, I was born this way Born this way When you first heard that song I was in Delaware You were And I... yeah, that changed my life. Dog Guys, Huge For You?

Yes. Like, that was like... Because I also... I wasn't like out necessarily to anyone. I mean, in high school, there was a few people I would like talk to about it. Yeah. Oh, there were? Yeah, like three or four friends. Yeah, please

Yeah, and also like my best friends also like a gay guy So like still to this day same person No, but like but we were we like grew up together and like, you know, we had each other to like go through all that so that was like really really like I was so lucky, yeah, and Yeah, like I feel like in college, just going out and, you know, meeting new friends, like meeting new people, like I was just so scared of like that, like anyone finding out, even though I've always been exactly like this.

And so like, you know, but still like it was like a you know so then when that came out Like I was kind of just like I also I developed a crush on this guy that I became friends with it was my first like crush on a guy and I Yeah, and I feel I had yeah, I had feelings so paid. I was like Did I ever find out I told eventually I like broke down and I told him Was it that you broke down and told him that you were gay you broke down told him that you were gay and had feelings for him Wow, and Was he kind? He was so kind about it. I was like I was very like crazy about it and

Yeah, but but that that came that that single came out in the beginning of that year of like 2011 from my memory of it and then that summer like that was the last time I saw him and I never saw him again but then that summer that album came out I think or something like that. May 2011. Yeah. Bin Laden. Right. Is that true? Yes. Bin Laden and Gaga.

And God and Born This Way came out on the same month. So wait, what a month. That was Skidmore. But wait, so Born This Way the single came out February of 2011. Yes. And yes. Really? Yeah.

So wow. So that was February and then that was when Matt and I were like kind of like bonding for for the first time meaningfully. Yeah, we were like screaming it singing it a lot in born this way And then I forget that that song was a part of that. Yeah, I think This is famously it took me a little bit longer to get fully on board sure But actually was done until art pop that I was like riding hard for God right yeah, I definitely Art pop also like I was um for Halloween 2013. I was like her VMA performance With the mermaid beating in your hands my aura and yours meeting in this dance

holo trigger I'm ready it is show time just the teeth. Yeah, everyone like that. I got it! That is one of the best performances in VMA history. And to applause.

And to applause. And then all those changes, the costume changes, like, oh my, I like, I rewatch that still when I need like inspiration. No, applause is Taylor Swift's favorite Lady Gaga song. Really? Applause? She plays it before every Aeros Torsion. Yes.

Whoa. And Gaga says that Taylor Swift came up to her at a party and was like, I love applause. And she was at first like, okay, this girl coming up telling me she likes applause. Why? Cause it's like the last single. Yeah. Yeah. And then like legitimately like in private people would be like,

Taylor is blasting applause right now. She was like, okay, this girl's the real deal. She actually loves applause. It's like, okay. She plays it at the AeroStar. It's so good. I'm actually, this is inspiring me. And I'm gonna go there for my I Don't Think So Honey.

And it's gonna, look, I might be like biting the hand. What do you mean biting the hand. What do you mean biting the hand? Just you wait, just you wait. This makes me nervous. No, no, no, I'm not biting the hand. I'm just saying like there's something that I want. As a true little monster, and we're all little monsters here.

Definitely. There's something that I think should happen, but I say this as a fan, of course. But I just wanna point out that Born This Way, are you saying that there is a direct link between you coming out and that album coming out? Like this is the thing that people don't realize, that was like, that unleashed something in the world.

It gave permission to a lot of people. And that's why people ride so fucking hard for Gaga. Yeah. You know what I mean? Absolutely. It's the best. I actually found recently, I found, I have like a few bins of just like college,

cause I studied photography, so like I have like negatives and pictures, whatever, and like paperwork Notebooks and so I found a little notebook. I guess I used to bring around with me I don't really remember this but I found a page that a loose page just like torn off and I wrote quotes that I guess I was inspired by I literally wrote like Wait, what was it? Like born this way? Yeah, it was Born This Way lyrics. I forget exactly which one.

People don't, I think it's so easy for people that have either been in cities for a long time or are exposed to more complex kinds of social dynamics and social scenes and sexualities and things like that. Like people take for granted how important it is to be explicit sometimes in messaging. Yes. Because I feel like, you know, before Gaga, obviously there was Madonna Madonna like was like, you know, like her messaging was very explicit.

I loved her. And then, of course, like she'd do so much work that was then more like, you know, for her experimental and things like that. And then people were able to get on board with it But only because she had been made an explicit Connection with her fans and her messaging and so Gaga saying you are born this way and it doesn't matter what you are You're amazing. Yeah, like that opens the door to then literally art pop Which was so many things, hard to quantify, hard to boil down.

But it's like that with Chapel Rowan too, you know what I mean? Like pink pony club. This is a place that I'm explicitly like realizing for you, where you belong. And I think sometimes people, it's almost like why overcompensating, I think is connecting so much too,

because there is power and there is Real like benefit to just being explicit and clear Because so many people need that even if like we may not or you may not there was a time that you really did Right. Absolutely. Yeah, so that's so beautiful. That's so true I think like it's so easy to let or not easy I don't know and it's not the right word. It's like we just take it for granted Yeah, absolutely. Do we truly do and I think sometimes like to create things too and Sometimes you want to hide behind

The direct the actual messaging of something which totally makes sense Sometimes there is an artistic choice or an expression or something like maybe sometimes you don't want to be so deliberately Of course, you know, like this is what this is, you know, whatever but like and there's power in that too and like people interpreting things for sure, but but it is like songs like that absolutely just like Enter your like Heart and cuz they can come right to yeah what it is. It's like oh they like heart and mind. Cause they can cut right to what it is.

It's like, Oh, they're telling me exactly what it is that I feel like that's exactly it. Like, and I think sometimes there's like. Especially in 2011, like that whole, cause there was also so much like, you know, indie too. And this type of, that also had like, was so expressive too and felt so like

but also I felt like I was constantly on songmeetings.com like ok now what does this one mean I'm so stirred and moved by these songs but like what the hell does this mean you know and I'm like I still look a genius I'm still like kind of trying to you know and I'm like

but then at the same time something like that to come out and also to just like pierce through and and just like pull out your heart and just and just be like, you know, it's OK. And yeah, because it's funny how like the lyrics to Born This Way are so straightforward and like the story of it is so straightforward. But she was doing such crazy stuff in terms of style and aesthetics and even sound that it's like it's like it's I remember when it came out people were like, Oh, this is like, like the cynical people were like, this is like, more basic than something like bad romance or poker face that had like

layers to it. Like poker face is kind of like like when you read it on the page, you're kind of like, what is this? Yeah, like it's it's it's dealing in metaphor. Right. Right. Right. Whereas like Born This Way wasn't like there was this idea that like it was like more basic and that was bad. But like, I don't think it's basic to be explicit. I think, you know, like you can you just get away with other things and you find other ways to Dynamisize if that's a word what you're doing. Yeah, right that sounds like a word

It does sound like a word, but I wonder if we go if we looked it up if it would be dynamic I think I actually have dynamic size dynamic size. I never says gay harden Dynamisize Dynamis Dynamism can you can you do what you do remember what you did during when we were doing the earthquake like oh, yeah What would you when the earthquake happened? Yeah, I liked it Yeah, it was that oh yeah, oh my god now we're getting started. Oh god. Oh. Oh.

This is the thing. This is the thing. Holy fuck. Oh baby. Wait, this bit is my, this actually is my second favorite bit that you do. Do you know what the first one is? I don't know what to do with this. It's you on the roller coaster.

Oh yeah, which is part of my live show, which everyone should continue. I've never seen anyone perform. Being on a roller coaster? Not only being on a roller coaster, being on a, is it that you're on a date on a roller coaster and you're sort of pretending you're okay with what's happening, but you're very scared I'm very scared to go on the ride. I've never been on a roller coaster before Yeah, and it builds up and it One of the things he literally gets so right is the g-forces like when it weighs on your body

and you kind of pass out and you kind of go like I I remember just, I forget where you were doing it, but I was watching it and I was just like feeling so seen because it reminded me of like Nitro. You know what it says to my Grand Adventure? When you go in on the helix at the end and you're like, oh! And you kind of pass out. Oh my God, I remember Anna Gasteyer was there too.

Oh my God, yes! It was at CHEOPSEE Music Hall. Oh my god. It was that show. Yeah, it was that show. Yeah, yeah. I was so nervous like to perform in front of her. I know, I know. She was so like she was into it. She was so like easy to talk to very warm. Whenever you whenever Cuz now we've been lucky enough to be around a lot of those women that like when we were coming up

Which is like the ones. Oh my god. And like it'll happen more and more. But the thing is like you are nervous because you care so much what they think, but then you realize they're just sketch comedians too. Right. You know what I mean? So it's so surprising how quickly it can go from like, you know, the reference to also being like, like there's that person making their noises and doing their things and doing their bits Which is really like who they are. But yeah, they are these like I just want to go up to amy poehler and be like me You could She would love it she's good. Uh, we hope you're watching this amy amy. This is richard. You need to know rich. I'm lovely to meet you

Thank you for listening this far if you have and I hope you're having I hope she didn't turn it off with the whole part Yes This enough of this god damn it This is this is her get this You know, what's a good bit remember when Rachel when? Remember when Rachel and I used to do this bit? No, it would be Have you been with us since grew days? Have you been with us since Gru days? Yeah

I was saying I need to bring Gru back I need to bring Gru back Guys I think there's something There's something in this, hold on, be careful This is gonna be crazy GRU! That was scary That was so scary

Oh my god I'm so serious Be careful Oh my god. Shh, shh, shh. I'm so serious about this. Be careful. Ah! Fuck, I knew it. What was that? It was there. Ah!

Fuck. Shit. I liked it. Ah! I missed that. This is one of those episodes that people are gonna be like, we can't see it. We can't see it.

We have a YouTube channel. There's a YouTube channel. I know. There's YouTube, as you know. Wait, is doing this and is the bunny, that's photography major. That's part of my photographic practice that I feel like I've incorporated. Do you still take pictures a lot? No.

But I do want to get back into it. But you know how to present something visual or communicate something. I think compositionally a lot. That's perfect And in terms of your comedy too, maybe yeah, of course describe what you mean like Like even just like building up my show like I was like thinking in that like Cinematically a little bit or just kind of like or when I'm envisioning myself in the scenes or something It's like I'm thinking from a I'm like, oh like this would be like here Yeah, we gotta get you a special or something. Yeah, like this one you're working on now. Would you hope to televise it?

I would yeah, and I hope to do like more It was really like one of those experience I was just like Yeah, I really well you are an actor are like you are like like I feel like some people This is not to say but I feel like this it's like I did comedy because I wanted to act Mm-hmm. I don't know. I think a lot of gay guys Yeah, queer people totally out here. Like I I Definitely didn't see like doing comedy for myself. I never thought I'd be that

person like doing sets. Like it was all a means to an end. I don't know how you guys feel. I was weirdly like wanting to. Yeah, I was wanting to act. But I was like I didn't give myself the permission to.

I was like I would be so happy in like a writer's room with a staff drop in a room. Because you in your in your head were like mitigating it to that to not like make any expectations. Yeah, I'd be like, I'm not gonna be in movies or anything like truly honest. I'm not gonna, no one's gonna want to do that.

So it was like self protection but also something you convinced yourself was true. Yeah, like I would like stop at like the Simpsons episodes and be like, okay, who wrote that? Okay, oh, this person, you know? Like I got really just eye-rolly, granular about that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you know what that was for you? Like what compelled you to perform? I feel like ultimately, I mean, around this time,

you know, 2007, I feel like I was around this time, you know 2007 I feel like I I Was thinking about going like auditioning to like get into a program or something privately, I didn't really I talked to like maybe one or two friends about that in high school, but like I Was way too scared and I was just like oh like I don't know like people will And it was more like, you know, just being closeted and being like, oh like I don't know, like people will... And it was more like, you know, just being closeted and being like, oh, like, I don't know, people will, like, sniff it out and make fun of me. Or I don't know, like there was something so...

Yeah, like no one's going to be rooting for me. Yeah. And so I was just like, there's no way I'll ever do that. But then I fell, I did fall in love with, like, photography. And that's a different perspective. And like, and that was so thrilling and I love doing that sometimes like when I just like look at you know photo books or Like I'm at an art show or just even like just reminiscing. I'm just like oh, yeah I'm so like captivated by this but I

feel like comedy I I feel like comedy, I love performing live. I have so much fun. But I don't know if like I see myself, yeah, like having like stand-up set or something like that. What you do is so beyond that. Like that's when I feel like you're like CapriLand, you're like Colascola, like that's Richard. You know what I mean? Like I feel like you can do whatever you want to do because you're that good I really feel like so safe when you're performing Yeah, like I really and I really feel like what you do is like brand new and so specific to you that's like one of the reasons why like I

Don't know it's like I haven't sometimes I'm like I haven't been around in a while. I know I feel that way Absolutely like watching shows and stuff, but you make me excited to go watch like live stuff again. Yeah, thank you so much Thank you. So people should be going to see I've been to Union Hall in a long time July 12th. Just come with me. Oh Being God well, I'm gonna be in LA. Oh, you'll be in LA. Just come back. I'm coming.

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Because you definitely do. Yeah, sure. And maybe something in yours will inspire me. Well, I mean, I have one. No, no, no, I'll go first. I mean, I'm I have one no no no I'll go first But and it will happen here we go, so alright, I mean should we be nervous no, I'm not nervous This is bowing Yang's. I don't think so honey his time starts now. I don't think so, honey, please Please I need an art pop song in the mayhem ball. Just one. Yeah, that would be good. I

understand Gaga that that was a very, very tumultuous time in your life. But here we are talking about art pop in the way that we have the patina on that. And now we say, if you gave us applause, hopefully, you think that that is a song that has aged enough, you have enough distance from that time in your life that you Seconds it is such a brilliant narrative if you're saving it for the narrative for I'm not gonna do anything off of our pop for a Decade now on we're on a decade of no art pop live anywhere. It would be so major

It would be such a euphoric release for the little monsters out there. I'm not telling you what to do, Gaga. I love you, I would die for you. You don't have to think about anything that I say. Five seconds. But I think I would weep, and I'm not a crier because I'm on SSRIs, I would weep if you sang any song off our pop. And that's one minute.

See, I'm not on an SSRI, and I feel that I'm confident you would cry. I would, I know, I absolutely know for sure that I would cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. Because I feel like I, what would happen to me if she performed from Artpop is I would be on the floor and I would fucking put a like dead, like not alive. Which song?

So, the fractional, you have to at least be crying. Of course. I think applause is sort of the safest choice for her and for us. It's like people would get excited for applause. She would sing applause and it's like, it's so conceptually interesting. It's obviously had a life of its own since ERA's tour.

Truly it's such a thing. Like ERA's tour, it's like, okay, the show's about to start. Like they're playing applause. Like it has lived on in such a such a beautiful way Yeah, I have I have my I don't think so honey based on this question, okay It's again, it's a roll of the dice and I'm gonna risk it because I really do believe this risk it This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so any time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Can we not I

Understand we're not supposed to use the term gypsy But can we listen to and love the song gypsy, please? Like I feel like sometimes there's like a little bit of angst around the song gypsy because of the term gypsy. But I feel like that is a peak of that album. Like gypsy is one of the great Lady Gaga songs. And like it's also opens the door for so many other things. I kind of believe it opens the door to like Babylon in a way.

Like it's like Gypsy is like a brand of Lady Gaga song that I don't want to forget. And I really feel like it's an important installment and it's important canon in Gaga culture. I think it would tear if Gaga did Gypsy at the Mayhem Ball. I really think that that could be the one and I think it's gonna hit everyone so much harder. I think applause, obviously, G.Y. would be amazing.

I'm a Donatella stan. I think it would go crazy. Fashion. Yeah. Oh, please. I mean, all of it. But Gypsy and I don't want us to be afraid of it. I think we all know the deal. But Gypsy, hey, I do think so, honey. I'm going to see Gypsy Gypsy. Hey, I do think so honey

I feel like there was a little bit of a time there and that like sort of like, you know, like over correct the time period We can't do gypsy and I'm like you guys like we if we're gonna comb through all of Gaga's lyrics Like it's not we're not gonna like it's just not Just such a great song the brand of song that you're talking about, Gaga song that you're talking about is like when she is doing, when she's just at the piano, doing her channeling maybe Billie Joel or Elton. Like I love, Gaga at the piano, you're safe. In Germany.

In Germany. Like these oddities. The mustache, oh my God. Our pop era when she had the blonde bleached mustache and she had the contacts in. Weeping. I mean, I love that entire album. Her doing gypsy like that. Her doing gypsy like that. Oh my god our pop era when she was had the blonde bleached mustache and she contacts in yeah, we bang I Mean I heard you see like that. I see like that The only way I can describe it as like it's you know what else it speaks to which also really should be performed more is

Edge of Glory. Oh Pop songs ever ever and so the fact fact that that's the same brand though, same tone, you know what I'm talking about? I think, and so far like the Gaga cello moments, Gaga cabana, like all those Singapore, this like pre-Mayhem ball like tour sheet, like the piano songs have been shallow. Yeah.

And I'm forgetting one other one. I mean, you wouldn't want to, yeah, yeah, yeah, you wouldn't want to lose any of those. That's the thing. But we're now at this place with Gaga where it's like, you can watch even a two and a half hour set of hers. Oh, three and a half, four, five! No, I'm saying, but like you could have like a super long set and you'd still lose like so many songs in the catalog that you would wanna hear.

So many, like even at the Gaga cella, I was like, oh wow, she didn't do that one. She didn't do that one, she didn't do that one. And you could just keep going. I don't want the narratives to be like, oh, she didn't do anything on Joanne, she didn't do anything on Chromatica. It's like, I think it's totally at her discretion.

I do think the bubble's about to burst on, we've been blue balled out of anything, anything Artpop in like 12 years. And it's out of love that we say. It's out of love and enjoyment that we say. And also, yeah, I mean, Venus, babe. Oh my God! Like, Venus?

When you touch me, I just a little inside, I wonder if this could be love, this could be love. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh I mean that should be so proud of that entire album, but I saw her at Rosalind Ballroom She closed it down like oh my god. So yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, so I saw I saw Beyonce's for there She did four shows full for shows like the album. Yes, it was 2011 the summer of 2011. Yes. Yeah, it was four. She did four shows at Roslyn Bodum and they were by far Up till that point because now I've seen her since and obviously so she it's gotten even better. We just saw her It's such an intimate venue. At the time I was like that is the most special intimate performance of something so big

I had ever seen and that and then the real gag was something so big I had ever seen. And that, and then the real gag was like two months later, or shortly after she did the blue Ivy Carter baby bump reveal on the VMAs. And I realized in that moment that she had been pregnant the entire time. Which was really crazy. Yes.

That was crazy. She knew she was pregnant. Yes. And I remember, and then it made me, cause one of the most emotional moments of the whole thing was her doing one plus one. And it's because Jay was there, et cetera. And I remember being like, wow,

she really just like ripped a fucking hole into that song. And I realized I was like, oh, it's because she knew she was pregnant with her first child. Yeah. Oh my God. And dancing like, no, you've never seen. There's the end of time sort of like live music video that's just her at the Roseland doing it.

I'm like fuck, this rules. That like little picture she was doing with her like. Da da da da da da. So good. We heard Girls Run the World in the Streets before the Parachute. We were like this song too. I mean her too, like her VMA Vanguard.

Like of like the 13 minute or however long. That was after the self-titled, right? Yeah, that is also something that I'm like, uh just to watch to be like energized and invigorated like it's so She's phenomenal. We haven't even really gotten on the mic since then to really talk about the cowboy carter show Oh, I was most excited for going to see where the visuals with a visual Speak on the visuals. Well, the visuals were, I mean, when I turned him out, I was like, this was a kajillion different setups and costumes and hair moments and like,

like lighting, gaffing moments. And she, and they're so, and I say like thrown away because it was just like half second, half second, half second, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut. I was like, they, this must have taken months, months to shoot. And it's all for these interstellar shows. We were like, she very easily could have done, and may have done, a Cowboy Carter feature film,

because not only were there so many gorgeous, high quality cinematic setups and costumes, whatever. But she was acting. It's the best acting she's ever done in these Cowboy Carter visuals. There's a moment acting she's ever done in these cowboy card visuals. There's a moment where she is like in a fight with a woman at a bar and she takes a beer bottle and just smashes over.

Is it set up as like a narrative? Like the twerking? You know, what would you call it? It's more vignettes. It's vignettes. It's vignettes that like really do an amazing job of like, I did not realize that I was getting distracted so that she could quick change and then come out the other side of it, you know what I mean?

No, anyone going to the bathroom during the visuals, like, it's hard to say you missed one of the best parts because the whole thing, but it was like, you could not pull away from that tour because there was always something cool happening. Always, the whole time. Are you going? No, no, I I know you came anywhere in this shop. I rarely go to concerts Is it cuz they're like them? I just needed I need to literally be like Sat like right next to them and yeah, I need them to personally invite me

She's like Richard I got to see for you enjoy the show Like I love you and then I'll be like, okay. Yeah. Thank you so much, man Okay, you ready for the other things 20. Oh, right. Okay. I Right, okay I've been listening since 2018. Yeah, right lying ass I don't think so honey your time starts now. I don't think so, honey Thanks, honey your time starts now. I don't think so honey. I Don't think so honey The people who are unkind

When I was a little boy walking the streets of New Jersey Yeah, with my goddamn headphones on bitch, okay? Okay Okay? Okay. Life is so fun! Nuclear waters, they say. I try to have fun. I'm listening with my bag of CDs. 30 seconds.

Rumbling, rumbling around. And you shout something unkind to me. While I'm listening to Juno. Do you know who the fuck you're talking to? Rachel. Tell him. You know who the fuck you're talking to? Let him know.

That... You know who the fuck you're talking to? Let him know. You know. But I thought that that was so uncalled for and very very unkind to do to a young young child. But I wish you well and I hope that you're okay. But never do that again and if you are doing that, if you are doing that, if I find out you are shouting unkind things to kids from your car, I don't think so, honey. I'm gonna do something about it.

And that's one minute. That must have been hard. That must have been hard. That was my princess origin story. Literally, period. And also, can you imagine shouting something at a child? That's sick.

It's so crazy. It's truly fucking crazy that anyone would ever do that. It's sick. It's so crazy. It's truly fucking crazy that anyone would ever do that. Yeah. It's crazy. From a car. From a car. Like you're in the most fucking cowardly position. Yeah.

You pussy. I'm sorry. Literally. Listen. You pussy. I think that literally that's what they were. Yeah. Stilettos.

Category. Sexy bitch. I'm the bar. Alien superstar. Whip, whip. My favorite, one of my favorite Beyonce moments ever recorded. The way she says, don't even waste your time trying to compete with me. Like, are you kidding me?

Wait, what's that from? Alien superstar. Oh, OK. Don't even waste your time trying to compete with me. Like, are you kidding me? Wait, what's that from? Alien Superstar. Oh, okay. Don't even. We were laughing because like it's the Cowboy Carter World Tour and then she does Renaissance for three songs. She's like, welcome to the Renaissance.

But there's already been like kind of five songs from Renaissance strung without. And it's Cozy, Cuff It and Alien Superstar. She basically does like the first few songs of the album and then she calls that the Renaissance section. But she also does Thicc. Thicc to me was the moment of the show. America's the problem. Oh yeah, no, America was a problem with everything.

Cause that's when Beyonce is funny. With her little bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum bum I feel like she like, oh my gosh, y'all need to get her on here. I feel like she would be like. I feel like she just doesn't do this. She doesn't do that kind of thing. But I feel like if like you ever like, I don't know. I'm so curious, like her just like backstage, like with her people. Like, I feel like she's like funny.

Well, you forget how many interviews she used to do. Right. You know what? And I feel like she's also, I have a feeling she's really good at impressions. Interesting. Well, remember like during, I think Sasha Fierce, she would do like these anecdotes. She would like have banter on stage.

There was one famous one, she was like, one time I came home and my husband goes, Beyonce, have you gone swimming? Cause your nose sounds all clogged up. And like, that's like, that's like her doing. She was doing standup and she was like doing act outs as Jay Z. Being like, have you gone swimming? It was her JFL showcase at the time.

She wanted to go to Montreal. Beyoncé wanted an SNL audition. Well, she was famously in the single ladies sketch. She was Justin Timberlake. She knew exactly how to play it. And she was very good with those clowns. Clowns. Well, your Princess Origins story is something

that we can all learn from. Definitely. What would you say to all the princesses out there? Aw. I would say to all the princesses out there to just follow your heart and stay true to who you are and have a drink a lot of water and have a really good day. Put your best foot forward and take care of yourself

and others. Well, I know that everyone would benefit from going to see Richard perform live I love you. You're one of my favorite live performers. I think you're so good I know of course we always talk about how funny you are We love you a lot September 2nd September 7th Joe's pub and July 12th because it's gonna come out July 9th We were deciding now We were deciding now. It's going to be our head with our producers.

This is the theme song to The Hills. We end every episode with a song. And this is one of the greatest songs of all time. Bone and I agree. Let's go back. To the hill. Back to the beginning. Laguna Beach? No, this is The Hills.

The Hills is unwritten. Oh my God. Oh, why? Then this is Laguna Beach. Mandela Fact. Oh, sorry. This is the one you read Oh my gosh. Oh, right. Wait, then this is Laguna Beach. Mandela effect. Mandela effect. Oh, sorry, I got confused. Wait, this is the one you rewatched

was Laguna Beach, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. I'm not even gonna have it cut out. I'm just gonna say that was my mistake. No, no, no, it's okay. I should have just, I should have just just, oh, he meant Laguna Beach and I should have,

I feel like I stopped him. No, no, no, no, because I made a mistake. Here we go. Let's go back, back to the beginning. Back to when the earth, the sun, the stars all align. This is like an Odyssey of its own. Cause it's perfect, didn't seem so perfect. Didn't seem so perfect Tryna fit a square into a circle Was no lie I defied

Let the rain fall down and wake my dreams let it wash away my sanity Cause I wanna feel the thunder, I wanna scream Let the rain fall down, I'm coming clean Give it to the camera I'm coming clean Nah, nah Babe What did you say, babe?

I said babe, like the way that, the way that Richard did Nah. Babe. What did you say, babe? I said babe, like the way that Richard did. Zara, babe, Zara, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, nah. Babe, babe, babe. Bye. Bye. Yeah. Yay, that was so good.

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