Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Kill A Man With Dat Ass" (w/ Atsuko Okatsuka)

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

Let's go, Atsuko! And by "let's go" we mean "THANK YOU" for being on this episode of Las Cultch with Matt & Bowen. What a time it is! Discussed: being in an Android-iPhone relationship, centering Jonah Hill, Atsuko's mentor and director Tig Notaro, The White Lotus and Big Italian Emotion, funeral culture in the east vs. west, having "range" vs. being "singular", portraying sing-talky villains, "crossover culture" in the form of a Snoop Dogg and Red Hot Chili Peppers concert, Pop Up Video, the stigma and anxiety around the words "Disney adult", how the Ticketmaster of it all is a "country-pop problem", finding love and friendship, and sweepstakes culture being fake as hell. Also, Atsuko describes cultivating her incredible HBO comedy special The Intruder, her colorful and vibrant aesthetic, working with Tig and Mike Birbiglia to bring the story of The Intruder to life, and being responsible for the phenomenon that is "The Drop". You can watch The Intruder NOW on HBO via HBO Max and you absolutely SHOULD. What a star! xoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Title of that. So it's great to land on a title of that before we've even said a single thing to the guests. Or to ourselves, each other, really. Well, here's the sort of thing. I love recording in person. I love recording in person. Really brings out the energy. It really does. And so the second the sort of thing. I love recording in person. I love recording in person. It really brings out the energy. It really does. And so the second we

sort of got together today, well, the first thing we did was we slowly walked together up the steps of the great iHeartRadio building, which is what this building is called. The great. And we saw our guest and we were immediately hit with the energy of talent, the energy

of wisdom. Of charm. Yes. Of, I'm gonna say influence. Extreme influence. This person has moved armies. Powerful woman. Moved armies down. Moved armies down. And we have to say, then there was that thing that happens that always makes

you really scared, which is an android got dropped. Our guest is married to a lovely man named Ryan. He has an Android. He dropped his Android when he went to go hug Matt. And then Matt, somehow the conversation went to who gives off

an iPhone vibe, who gives off an Android vibe. Matt says that I give off an Android vibe, which is a little... You immediately took offense. You don't know me at all. First of all, that's a damn lie. Second of all, you didn't let me explain why I thought that, which is a little you immediately took offense you don't know me at all you saw first of all that's a damn lie second of all you didn't let me explain why i thought that which is i think you give off confident alt energy which is i think that you are like sort of confident enough as a woman in tech okay that you could have an android phone and be like yeah i have an android ask me one question about it I'll blow your mind

yeah ask me a question here I'm going to pretend I'm going to do drag right now you ask me a question about Android and I'll answer okay what I would ask is but doesn't it bother you that like when you're on a group text with a bunch of iPhone people no not at all because I'll just do like WeChat or I'll do WhatsApp

WeChat my Chinese is showing I don't know about my Chinese you know what I have WhatsApp. Sorry, WeChat. My Chinese is showing. I'm talking about my Chinese. You know what? I have honestly toyed with Android. I know you have. It's a rhyme. There's a little internal rhyme

right there. Toyed with Android and not that I don't love Apple, but every now and then I go, well, they're doing some interesting things over there. So you sometimes think about

flirting with betrayal? I sometimes think about That was a doing some interesting things over there. So you sometimes think about flirting with betrayal? I sometimes think about- That was a gorgeous sentence. Flirting with betrayal. So you sometimes think about flirting with betrayal? I think it's a very interesting alternative. And I think that's what it is. I think that's what it's been marketed as for so long.

We don't have to actually get into this. We don't have to do anything. But you don't understand. I used to be on tech news all the time in college. And then something happened where two paths diverged in a wood. And I

feel like things got really sucked up into like crypto culture or something. That's when I was like, I'm disengaging. And now all this crazy shit is coming out about this Sam Bankman free guy, which we don't have to get into that. Yeah. Oh, I heard all about it. But it's so crazy. It's like Elizabeth Holmes meets Bernie Madoff meets Firefest in a way. There's like a polycule in the Bahamas. There's this guy, Changpeng Zhao, who's this

like Darth Vader to his Luke Skywalker. But there's a crazy story here. Well, you know what it's giving. What? Jonah Hill's next Oscar play. And I've already campaigned to be CZ, the Asian guy. I... Who's like, who fucking leaked all...

Who kind of exposed him for all his worth. And I see you nominated for supporting. Supporting? Yeah, because isn't the story about SBF or whatever? What if it was not about SPF and it was about me? It could be about you. It just feels like the story

is about the skin. Once again, centering a white narrative. That's really what I have. That's my biggest problem is I'm constantly centering Jonah Hill. You are. On this podcast,

I am constantly making it all about Jonah Hill and getting him his prestige awards. Give it up for Jonah. Jonah did something not a lot of actors do. Which was what? Which was transition from the Alison Jones pool of casting into prestige.

Is that where he came from? I think he was an Alison Jones guy. I was just watching an interview with Aubrey Plaza because I was like deep. I'm obsessed. I'm obsessed. I'm deep in a white lotus rabbit hole as we all are as a culture. And I was telling our guest about, I was like, you should watch. And there's a rumor that the third season takes place in Asia.

Really? Yeah. I have on good authority that it's going to take place in Asia, which makes so much sense. Like, I think Mike White really is nailing, like, Italian cinema vibes so well.

Oh, and now you think we're going to be giving, is it going to be giving, like, Wong Kar-Wai? I don't know. It's going to be giving, there's obviously going to be some Asian influence and I don't know what it looks like. Could be giving Rashomon.

Could be giving Kurosawa, absolutely. But I'm saying, like, I trust't know. There's obviously going to be some Asian influence in it. I don't know what it looks like. Could be giving Rashomon. Could be giving Kurosawa, absolutely. But I'm saying, like, I trust Mike White to respectfully research the aesthetic. And I think he would pull it off. He's a genius, as we know. Yeah, he's fab. I also think, you know, taking it back to Aubrey Plaza, which I am wont to do.

Anyway, but the Aubrey Plaza thing, she got plucked out of the pool from Alison Jones. Alison Jones, who is an icon. One of the she got plucked out of the pool from Alison Jones. Oh, yeah. Alison Jones, who is an icon. One of the great casting directors. One of the great casting directors.

Yeah, and guest star of Barry. And guest star of Amazing Turn in Barry. Which was on HBO. Not to be gross, but like, because I think

you've met with her once, right? I've actually never met with her. But Zoomed? I don't think we've ever actually met. But she knows who you are.

She knows me because she was casting Q-Force. Right. I sat down with her one time years ago and I was like, I don't think I was weird met. But she knows who you are. She knows me because she was cast in Q-Force. Right. I sat down with her one time years ago, and I was like, I don't think I was weird enough for her.

You weren't thinking you were weird enough for her? I think I was. You think you were too cool? You were too effortless? Not even cool. I was just normie. I probably was too normal. And I know that that's not like a pejorative or anything,

but I think she casts a type so well, and I don't think I fit into that, which I'm totally fine with. She obviously knows what she's doing. I can't believe we're talking about Allison Jones. I think you casts a type so well, and I don't think I fit into that, which I'm totally fine with. She obviously knows what she's doing. I can't believe we're talking about Allison Jones. I think you're freaking weird. Thank you. I would cast you weirdo.

You're a weirdo. You think I'm weirdo? I think we're all weirdos in this room, including Bahid. I think everyone here is a damn freak. Okay, so putting Jonah Hill aside, which I'm really sad about. You hate to put Jonah Hill aside.

I hate that. Rule of culture number 65. Matt Rogers hates putting Jonah Hill aside. Because there's so much to say. There really is. But our guest, this is one of the greats. This is one of the greats. This is one of the people that are unforgettable.

This is truly, I mean, cross media. Oh my God. This is a trendsetter. Literally. Literally. If you even know what it means to do the partition slash Yonce drop. Yep. This guest gave you that.

This guest gave you that and brought communities together. And now. The cast of Hamilton was not a community before the drop challenge. No. In fact, they were at each other's throats. They hated each. No, in fact, they were at each other's throats. They hated each other. Well, every Broadway cast is at each other's throats. That's actually real culture number 14. Every Broadway cast is at each other's

throats. SNL cast did it. And they needed that community too. We were at each other's throats until the Drop Challenge. Period. So basically what we're saying is now that influence is becoming an even wider influence. Because you wanted to say like, oh, the person who started the drop challenge is this incredible standup.

Yes. And now it's so perfect. The timing is so well aligned. She's got a special coming out on HBO, December 10th, The Intruder, directed by Tecna Taro. Unbelievable. Beautiful trailer, beautiful set. We'll get into that.

I mean, the aesthetic is strong. Absolutely. This is get into that. I mean, the aesthetic is strong. Absolutely. This is a true visionary. Such a fun, original voice. You don't throw that word around that much anymore. Original. I never throw around the word voice. I don't throw around original.

Not that either of us are authorities on those things. Can I say something? I don't really throw words around anyway. That's so true. I don't really throw words around anyway. That's so true. I would never disrespect a word. You are so intentional with your words. Listen to that sentence. I would never disrespect a word. That's amazing.

Let's sit in that for three seconds. Please welcome to Las Culturistas podcast, Atika Okatsuka! Hi! Hi! Oh my gosh, it was so riveting to just be in here Coach Arisa's podcast Atiko Okatsuka Hi Hi Oh my gosh It was so riveting To just be in here

While y'all were talking And I was trying Not to give away Even my voice No but you know what That's control You're so controlled You really did

But you really You really I couldn't I just let out During the Jonah Hill I just couldn't I lost it And you know,

your husband is here, but he opted to sit outside the recording because he has no self-control. He would be wailing and screaming. He would. Yeah. He would.

I mean, with the Android, the confidently alt, I feel like I'm going to go and tell him that's what he is. That's what he is. Are you Android? No, I'm not. But he takes all my

social media photos and stuff. Honestly, the pictures do look better. The cameras are kind of better. The cameras are better. I mean, iPhone always catches up to Pixel or catches up to the Android stuff and the Samsung stuff. But sometimes those photos really look amazing.

They're just better. The drop challenge was shot on that. All the videos that were shot on that. The original drop challenge was shot on that all the videos the original drop challenge was shot on Android Android yeah Selena Gomez found out

Selena Gomez found out Android needs to advertise that hey we're the guys who did drop challenge we're not the guys who did it but we're the phone

who did it what's it like being in a marriage in an iPhone Android yeah I was gonna ask what is that like yeah I mean people typically

don't that's not the first thing they ask so i am so glad i know we're only asking well we asked the hard questions you know lost culture has been called the wtf mark maron gay of gay i'm so glad you're like post race post interracial marriage you were like no that's not what that is how about your phones though i mean receiving links instead of just being able to send me a video, that is kind of a whole thing. Oh, yeah. I need to have Wi-Fi to download a video so that I could then post it.

But it's so tiny, you know. Yeah. That's love. Yeah, when a whole ass person is like helping me do social media, I'm like, okay, I'll take a link. It's okay. And you know what I love about this? That love conquers all.

That's the lesson here. Because what do you think when you go, I wish I could tap back a ha-ha or a heart or a thumbs up. But you just can't. You just can't. That's my thing when I text an Android person. I go, oh, I want to react. But I have to type a full sentence out.

I have to type a full ha-ha-ha out. I know it forces communication. It forces conversation. There's no shorthand. There's no shortcuts. I know. It's more energy. You know, which is something that I noticed you two have a lot of. And I was like, wake up, bitch.

Wake up. No. Well, you know, it's 5 p.m. on what we're going to call Thursday. So that's sort of giving end of the week vibes. Also, I would imagine that you are very busy. I am. But, you know, aren't we all? And sometimes I wonder, you know know most days i'm so tired and then i always i'm i'm hard on myself because i i see everyone you know

we're all bringing our best foot forward right when we see each other right like we're trying not to be sleepy we're trying to be like hey yes right and um so i don't i don't know everyone's nap schedule and stuff but i feel like sometimes i'm, gosh, do I need to go to the doctor? Most time during the day, I'm like horizontal. Really? Yeah. This is something that's befallen me. Yeah. Are you tired? Are you a sleepy girl?

I'm a sleepy girl. I don't get great sleep, which is sort of not a great match up but I feel like I've had a lot of days recently where I go I should just stay horizontal which is not great but like I trick my mind into thinking you deserve this and I probably don't I think we do I'm gonna try to talk to people enough about this yes yes

sometimes I'm like is it my borderline anemia you know I don't know maybe maybe I need to keep my feet warm like my acupuncturist says. I don't know if she says that. Keep feet warm for better energy? Something like that. Circulation. We know it's good for us.

Right. Yeah, yeah. Cold feet is not good. I have cold feet a lot. And I don't mean to make this into a health section. You know? This podcast has so many things. It's about time that it became health and wellness.

I did get concerned for a second when you said that it was going to take place in Asia. The next... The White Lotus. Yeah. And I was like, but will it be Jonah Hill's story? Well, certainly there will be teaming with white cast.

Teaming with white cast. But I think the setup of the show is already such that it is about like the usually the Americans who come. So far, it's always been Americans who go to these places. First, it was Hawaii. And you did have like some. But it could it could have used more, to be honest. But there was some local perspective, right?

There's definitely a lot of local perspective in this season. Yes. From like the local Sicilians or the Italians who are, I think, the most compelling characters to me. And remember, we've only seen, we're recording this a little bit early for scheduling purposes,

but we've seen now the first, I've seen the first four. I've seen the first four. Because we have one of the White Lotus cast members on the show and Shalara have already been on. You all know it's Megan Fahey by now. So we discussed it with her.

But what I've loved about this was that it feels like, at least with the Italian of it all, like communication is very influenced by, amongst the characters, is very influenced by these Italians and the way they communicate. Like the way that the hotel manager,

like, of course it's a character decision to make her so forward and so authoritative, but also it seems very Italian. And I was watching an interview with her and she said that italian acting styles is also very much more about like literally playing an emotion and not inhabiting it i saw in house of gucci i saw that yes yes no that's great yeah yeah i mean i haven't watched a movie with an italian influence in a while that's the last one i saw yes but there there is that thing thing of it is more just about showing a big

emotion and playing a bold thing and I think that is very European. So I would be interested to see what the communication style and how that has influenced the cinema of, or Asian cinema, like how that navigated and how that negotiated in

a White Lotus season. I think that would be interesting. We'll see. I mean, I think maybe, negotiated in a White Lotus season. I think that would be interesting. We'll see. I mean, I think maybe, not in a neat way, not to put it neatly, but I feel like it probably, there's something in the other direction where it's a lot more internal or whatever. But then, I don't know. It's a ways, we're years out from ever seeing it.

Yeah, and for you to be on HBO, and not caught up. Oh, I know. What am I, a traitor? You're flirting with betrayal. What is the sentence we said? Flirting with betrayal? I think it was that.

Yeah, flirting with betrayal. It's so hard when you come up with so many amazing new colloquialisms. You only said that like five minutes ago. But I'm still thinking about Jonah Hill. I'm thinking about energy, communication. So now you're centering Jonah Hill. I am. Do you find that you do that a lot?

This is what happens. It just, it rubs off on you and then you start, you start putting yourself second. Yeah. Constantly Jonah Hill first. Uh-huh.

Yeah. And I'm like, I haven't even thought about him in forever. And then you bring him up. That's your problem. I didn't think. You failed. You failed. You failed yourself what can you tell us about this piece you always wear the most incredible clothing this is new works it's this like uh amazing brand that they're based out of

the bay area and they have a uh store in la too they work with a lot of graphic artists it's female owned it's really great the pants are too yeah my whole outfit wow it's just with a lot of graphic artists. It's female owned. It's really great. The pants are too. Yeah. My whole outfit. Wow. It's just fun. A lot of colors. Yes. Yes. Do you put a lot of and think a lot visually when it comes to your comedy? And obviously you do. But like, would you consider yourself like first and foremost, a visual person? I'm actually I feel like I'm very auditory, but I don't like to spend a lot of time on looks. You know, I actually put things together very, very fast. But I think I have pretty good instincts. Yeah.

I was going to say it's probably because it doesn't take much effort for you because it all comes very naturally. That's how I feel. I don't know what that is or where. It's not like I came from like a fashion family, you know, I don't know. I think it's out of laziness, but I like art. So it's just like whatever is quick I just yeah it helps make decisions fast because the connection between your appreciation for like art and visuals is very strong between that and like your comedy or the way you want to present yourself because

we were talking about the set design for the special it's so gorgeous it's beautiful and like someone executed that for you but like it came from you like it's inspired by you and it would not have it would not look the way it does if it weren't for like the things we know about otsuko okatsuko is like comedy and her and her visual style you know i'm talking about you in the third person but yeah it just like sort of bright some would maybe even say i'm like a feel-good comedian. But yeah, maybe, you know, in that like I just want you to feel seen too. And so, gosh, yeah. So colors always do it for me.

Like an all-black event or something, I've never been... I go dark. I've never been so sad. No, I've actually never been invited to one. Well, you've never been to a funeral then lucky you no that's true actually yeah

not many people die around me I don't know or at least not that many people die around me is also a front runner for a title event

or at least you know what I don't get invited yeah oh yeah yeah I have not I've never been to a funeral

you haven't I've been in memorials what I've never been to a funeral you've never been to a funeral. You haven't? I've been to memorials. What? I've never been to a funeral. You've never been to a funeral? Yeah. I've been to so many. Oh, well, I mean, I mean, okay.

I've never been to, I should say, and let me know if this tracks. I've never been to like a Western funeral. Oh. Does that make sense? I've been to my grandmother's in China. Uh-huh. And that is a whole different thing. And it feels like.

Were there like mourners and stuff like that? There's mourners, but we didn't have to hire anybody. Or maybe we did. I don't even know. But there were a bunch of like people I'd never met before. Strangers. Yeah. Strangers.

But like it's a thing in Asia where sometimes they'll hire people to like whale, professional whalers. Okay. Yes. Yes. I had heard about this. Yeah. And I'm kind of 50, 50 on, I'm sure my sister who's listening will let me know.

Why? Or let me know if there were. Oh, but literally, I mean, like we, it was my grandma's funeral and like, it was,

we were all white. We drove the, the casket to like the family burial ground, which is like two hours into the mountains. We burn everything. It's incredible. Anyway, sorry, I know why we got on funerals. No, that's just like such a different event.

It's kind of very eventful compared to I think like a Western one where, I mean, it really could be anything. Well, there's like a week, right? And this is not for everything. Yes, but tell me. But like there are different like events there's like a wake, there's like a memorial service

then there's like a proper funeral I'm wrong we did go to a wake once and we did go to a wake but the wake is honestly a very drawn out process but yeah it does sound different I guess I'm interested in the concept of a professional whaler

this is like someone who is is encouraging the release of that emotion. Yeah. Which I think is probably helpful to some people. Absolutely. I think it's also a religious thing or based on it a little bit. Or something about they hear you in the heavens or something. Oh, yeah. And then some people just do it to like really round out the

environment i feel like right the atmosphere like yeah yeah look it's like the oscar seat fillers yeah yeah yeah or like you know not everyone's emotive and it's like it should be sad or something you know also it's kind of like um because at the funerals that i've been to in my life it is that sort of thing where when someone does break down, it feels very isolated and very chilling to hear. Whereas like maybe it's kind of nice to come into an atmosphere where the intent is that we are going to,

in a literal volume sense, release this emotion because there's nothing worse than hearing someone. One person. Than hearing one person begin. Yeah. Like, no, it's really.

It is, it is. I went to one funeral where the person died far too young. And it was sort of very sudden. And so, there was a great degree

of shock. And then to hear one family member really break out like that, you almost wish everyone was in there screaming. Sure.

Than hearing the sounds of true pain and grief come out of nowhere. It's like an underwear party. It's like, if one person is in their underwear when everyone else is closed, it's like shocking. But if everyone- It's actually a rural culture number 80.

A funeral is like an underwear party. It helps to have a convention. A paid person in their underwear first. Yes, yes, yes. Being like, y'all, I, you know. Yeah. So get on with it, everyone. Exactly. Oh my god. To start

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Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm going to pay for people to come to whatever premiere event you're doing for the special in their underwear are you doing are you doing an event i am i'm doing a launch party great i shot it out here but i'm doing it back in la because i was like that's the people you that's home for you yeah so where did you shoot it the special i shot it elsewhere elsewhere oh that's so fun and so i was able to like build my own set. I was telling Bowen, you know, like a theater is really nice, but it's also like someone else's aesthetic. And I really wanted to be able to like give people my aesthetic.

Julio Torres shot his there too. And was able to give his aesthetic, you know, and I feel like that's why I went with that. I was like, no, it's my first one on HBO. And so, you know, I want you to meet me. Yeah. And that's so exciting I think about like you know your debut special is it's that thing where it's like yes the people that have

followed you are going to understand and really you know intrinsically get this and like be thrilled by the elements of you that you're offering but it's also an introduction you know what I mean it's also like a huge amount of people especially on HBO meeting you right yeah totally and I think I want to

be authentic. You know, theater is like not traditionally a space. It means like a different level for me, maybe even class wise or something. And I'm just like, that wasn't me. And maybe, you know, my aesthetic, my artsiness, the colorfulness, sometimes I feel like, oh, it's just authentic to me. Maybe that's why I don't do like a black tie event or something because, oh, those are people that I traditionally didn't fit in with, you know? And so, but to be able to do that, that would be cool. It'd be like, you know, cosplaying, you know, it would be fun to do that. Oh, you know what I mean? Maybe I'm returning this later.

I don't know. You know what I mean? It's just like dress up nice. But even the jewelry I wear, you know, I wear a lot of like food, candy earrings. I don't wear like fine jewelry because I would feel like someone else. It's cosplay because, okay, so for the readers at home, Atsuko is wearing two egg earrings. Is that an egg over easy? It is.

It's a sunny side up. Sunny side up. Sunny side up. Yeah. And they're gummies. Yeah. And they're actual like they were edible at one time you're kidding i wear a lot of food jewelry like that i have like

cheeto ones like that but it's just it's just very me i'm very childlike you know and so yeah um when i'm in a space where it's like old money or something i feel i feel like i suddenly uh i feel like i have to overcompensate yeah but. But it's that you know what the conventions are, which is black tie for one thing. Or if it's a comedy special, it's like, oh, it's at some big theater. Yeah. Where the aesthetic is not, like you were saying, it's not your aesthetic. It's the aesthetic of some guy or woman who died decades ago. You know?

And so for you, i feel like you probably intentionally or maybe unintentionally but either way you're you're making a choice to like do something very original and i think that's why people like are drawn to that's why like chelsea handler like reached out or like you guys became friends yeah how did you guys meet we became friends a few years ago there was this netflix competition show they were trying to do you remember uh rhythm and flow oh yeah yeah that was a really great series i've watched the whole thing it's like cardi bti yes yes yep yep i remember now they were trying to do the stand-up comedy version i remember this right i remember that but that was like different from

last comic standing it was like yeah it was gonna be like a mentorship and then yeah but it's not like a um competition and there's challenges where you have to do stand up at a laundromat

or something there were challenges there were there were sketch elements oh I see it wasn't it like more of a holistic thing of like

that you do stand up but also sketch and like wasn't it more of like a holistic thing I think you're thinking maybe NBC's like oh yes I's something funny.

Keenan was a judge on that. Keenan was a judge on that. Michael Longfellow who just joined the cast did that. That's right. This was Netflix. It never aired because the pandemic hit, but that's where we met, where I did jokes. I've known of her for a long time.

We almost crossed paths. I had tweeted for her. One time I actually filled known of her for a long time we almost crossed paths I had tweeted for her or one time I actually filled in for her at a festival where it was this huge theater in Vegas it was supposed to be Tig you know she couldn't do it so I did it but they never told the audience

oh my god really it's just very different you know of course yeah yeah you gotta tell the audience anyway they weren't you certainly have to tell the audience that Tig Notaro was not going to be there

Tig claims the audience was pissed I think it was fine but pro but yeah so we we always

kind of missed each other and then and then I was like well if it takes this competition for her to finally see me yeah

and then I was hoping she would choose me. It's like The Voice. You get a mentor. It's Neil Brennan, Tig Notaro, and Dion Cole. And so you do your set in front of an audience. And then in the end, the three of them say, thank you. None of us choose you. That's horrible.

And then Tig wanted me on her team. And so that's how we met. Amazing. And then we became close friends. And yeah, she's amazing. You know, she's directed a ton of stuff. Yeah. I think people maybe forget that.

Yeah. Two Dope Queens. She did a bunch of episodes of Two Dope Queens, her own TV show. She even directed Ellen's special. Oh, like the comeback one or the one like back in the day the comeback one I think it's called like Relatable

or something Tig is I think like one of the for lack of a better word like masters or like there's another word that's like better but it's like she just like understands the whole setup of stand up in a way that's like,

one of my favorite jokes is the Taylor Dane story. Love Taylor Dane. That's a great bit. It's a perfect bit. I love your voice. I don't do that anymore. My speaking voice. I'm sure people know about this,

but if you don't know the Tig Notaro, Taylor Dane story, the bit, it's one of my favorite things in comedy. I would say it's like rocked my world the first time i heard it well there's like something that connects you guys i think which is obviously like the singularity like there's no one like tig there's no one like you and so i almost feel like she really does understand how to she has vision right and so like you clearly

have a lot of vision so in that way i really i understand Yeah, we're like confidently all. Yeah, confidently all, like going with an Android. Well, it's hard. I have a certain cadence. I don't use correct English when I talk. I make up words and sentence structures. I make weird noises when I'm doing standup. And it's like, I don't quite fit in. I don't, I haven't done a ton of traditional media

because I think it is hard for me to fit into other people's worlds. So that's why standup is my favorite art form because I get it is hard for me to fit into other people's worlds. So that's why stand-up is my favorite art form because I get to sort of be me. And speaking of Taylor Dane and like the commitment to just being you, that's something that Tig has always done. You know, she was offer only like she and she says, look, way before I should have been offer only. But she's like, I just couldn't keep auditioning for these things that were like i was not gonna fit into yeah and so perfect examples is everything

you see her in star trek or that wild zombie movie where she replaced chris delia oh yeah do you know about that i i heard about this i didn't see it so yeah it's wild right even the idea of it when they announced that tig was replacing chris delia wildly different energy of course of course i was cracking up about how perfect it actually is yeah chris delia's wild energy to like tig just being like it's the end of the world it's a zombie apocalypse and her just being like let's blow their brains out you know what i mean and and she had to do it on a green screen by herself. Because they already shot the movie.

They shot the cast there. And I'm like, only she can actually pull that off. And you know what I mean? It's literally cutting her out of her own world and putting it into these worlds. And she's the same in all of these roles. I'm telling you. She's just being Tig.

The space is exploding in Star Trek. Everything is going wild around her. And she's still like,ig the space is exploding in star trek everything's going wild around her and she's still like hey so uh can you just pass me that pen like she's just you know what i mean yeah anyway i'm obsessed obviously but what you were saying is like she really saw that with me too and um yeah because it's it's hard i you know when you get an audition or something you're like oh maybe i do this voice or something yeah like you have to do the most to fit into something that clearly is not you and then like yeah it takes a very confident performer to just be like no i'm gonna give them me yeah even though it's not you on the paper what i'm saying is i don't have range and range is overrated

or it's not necessary it's depending on what you do matt saying this as someone with range matt you do have range you know this yeah so like what's something that's maybe a little out of range that you were like oh maybe i want to try doing that then no one ever sends me an audition for no one ever for me yeah thinks thinks of you for like what kind of character i think that that's changing a little bit now like i think now that i've acted a little bit more and people see that i'm capable of doing it that's changing a little bit more like i've recently gotten auditions for things where i ordinarily would think that they would want to see me for another part and they saw me for whatever like whatever i didn't book it so now i'll just say like i they wanted me to

read for fiero and wicked oh and i was like yeah i would think they would put me in like something else you know what i mean like i would think like if they were casting like a bach and it's how you see yourself versus how other people see you is very to me it made sense to me it made sense that they went i mean who knows but i guess the thing is like that's the thing of just not taking yourself seriously enough right too and that's i guess that's another thing is it's like when you really are confident you can look at an audition and be like yeah i'm gonna give no matter what i mean i know what i'm gonna do like aubrey plaza does that yeah you know what i mean to the point where now yeah yeah yes and to the point where now it's like she's playing this character that was written for her by mike white and there's so much aubrey in it

but it's also like nothing she's played before right but it is extremely layered whereas like you could see her in the beginning of her career and be like oh Aubrey Plaza only does Aubrey Plaza but there's like now you're able to see dimension within that yes because she's mastered what she's able to do and she's so confident I mean like talk about someone who like with traditional

media has to make the choice to be her like every interview she does is so fucking funny because she trolls every single interview she ever speaks yeah yeah at least she did for years in the beginning now maybe it's different but that's something i really respect about people who are like singular and energy is it's like yeah you know what maybe i didn't see it here on the page for myself and i've been in my head about it but now i can give myself because i know myself. Yeah. Yeah.

But this all sort of is floating around the question of the show, which we must ask you, which is, let's go. What was the culture that made you say culture is for me? So this is that thing that you consumed in terms of pop culture or even culture at large that you can look back on now and be like, that was formative or that was defining or defining. Yeah mean there was there was a lot you know from like pop-up videos to janet jackson seeing two of her in gosh which song was it when i think when i think of you yeah

when i think of you i think maybe yeah there was like two of her oh yeah yeah yeah like there's that whole instrumental oh by the way so I'm not a good singer so often times when I try to sing something

people interpret what I'm trying to sing as something else and that was awesome but it is not that song it is not it is not that song

I swear I don't know the video is well enough to ID it. You know. This is me. By the way, Wicked was a really difficult audition for me. I also auditioned.

You also auditioned for Wicked? What role? They asked for like 32 bars. I said, and I checked. I was like, a minute and a half. I'm the kind of singer, when I say I'm not like a pretty singer. I mean, when we have like a musical sing-off at a party or something i always get the that part like if it's lame as a

rap yeah oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah villain that's that's whatie Villain is a great part That's the part I get But you know what though Sing Talkie Villain is hard because you have to be really compelling in order to do it

and people think like oh the Sing Talkie Villain but like those are like the fun those are really fun parts and those are hard parts No it is fun yeah but I'm not

you know if everyone's like what song I'm like oh you know it goes like Hello St. Francis When I saw the blessing above on the earth Oh, you know, it was like, Oh, together again.

Together again. Wow, we got there. Oh my gosh, yeah. And that's not even the culture. Okay, yeah, yeah. We're talking about music video pop-up video culture. Those really, gosh, I saw so many people with confidence and, you know, and just like being singular artists because music videos at that time were also more original and dared to, you know, go places that like we're not scared that the audience might get bored, you know. But I think for me, I went to a Hollywood Bowl concert of Snoop Dogg and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Wow. What is that combination? You know what I mean? And that's why I bought tickets. And it was a fundraiser for Snoop Dogg's son's football team, which I think he raised way too much money for. The football team doesn't need that much money. The richest football team ever.

I was like, it's like my middle school. At the Hollywood Bowl? Yeah, I was like, I think you got it. I think you raised the funds. You could have did this at the Largo. like, I think you got it. I think you raised the funds. You could have did this at the Largo. No, I know. I know. I was like, or like, I don't know, give the team two grand.

Yeah, right. So you didn't have to perform. Well, he obviously wanted to get on a bill with the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Yeah. What was the show like? It was wild. I was like, do these two energies match? And I love juxtapositions like that.

Yes. And I really liked hip hop and dance hall music. And I feel like, you know, when people see me, speaking of like what other people think of you, role wise and stuff, when people see me, you know, I look like, you know, I own an art gallery, you know, but my true loves are like dance hall music,

which is like Jamaican. But it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that I can can make my butt move in different ways. I would never see my body and think, oh, this body of an engineer that I got from my father, that I got from my father could do stuff like that. But I love juxtapositions like that and how that can live together in a world. And I think that was when it was inspiring seeing Flea go wild in that Lakers jersey I don't watch sports but

Lakers jersey and then Snoot Dogg doing something for the greater good which is the football team all these things that aren't my interest a lot of sports i was like you know but it means something to both of them yeah it's really cool it enhances the other and so i feel like we're already like at the saturation i'm like i'm like connecting a lot of dots here but i feel like people think that what people want in crossover culture is that like it's like look it's all your favorite things in one right but it's best if it's like two things that you would never expect to be together. Not even a bunch of things, but just maybe two things at minimum, obviously. But like to create that

juxtaposition. And then that's what's interesting because you don't need like all of these things happening at once. But I feel like I love that. That's a great way of thinking about it because I feel like you are a very kinetic physical performer too like I feel like in all your TikToks especially in the drop

challenge it was like oh look like Atsuko can like like pop her ass out and like and like get into a squat pop lock and drop it yes that's did you ever train as a dancer I took a lot of like ballet classes when I was a kid and i was a cheerleader in high school oh yeah so there yeah there's a lot of like dance and that was like the you know my performance for a while yeah um yeah and so yeah so i really loved that but you're right like too much of the same thing will eventually just not mesh right it clashes yeah not in uh yeah um sometimes okay when i see like uh katie perry you know performance i'm like oh that is maybe a lot like i don't know what to look at yes and then maybe it's too much yes well yeah i think that there's a degree of maximalism

there that maybe is just like you think it's purposefully an eyesore and then you're like, but how could that be? Like, and maybe this is just too much. I think like that, that's why that shark character was such a big deal because you just start focusing on someone else, you know? And maybe that's not your intention, you know? Right.

I think that also left shark was just not nailing the dancing which could be funny and ultimately was like i'm sorry i watch that back and i go i don't notice the i really don't either i think people are picking on left shark unfair what yeah i've never understood yeah yeah me too but i i think it's because there was too much going on so you're just like something oh didn't the fin wasn't high enough or whatever, you know? And yeah, I think that's what happened. The shark was probably rebelling a little too, you know? And that's why you got to interview all your backup dancers before you hire them.

I want to see you with a legion of backup dancers. I was just going to say you need to get backup dancers for your next special. You really do. For my Largo, Otzko, and Friends shows, I have started with dance numbers before. And I have had backup dancers. But if anyone can, like,

inject that into, like, the stand-up aesthetic, can break that up. Like, if Julio, not to, just because we've talked about Julio before, but if Julio can have a conveyor belt and, like, just have things go by,

like, that's his, like only he can do that, right? But I feel like you can be one of the only people who can like bring out a bunch of backup dancers for your special, you know? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like you have like-

Do you treat them well? Do you, what kind of atmosphere is rehearsal? Oh, just, you know, I keep it short. Again, I don't like drawn out things. I'm very instincts gut. Like energy was good. So why beat it till like it's perfect. I like chaos a little bit.

That's funny. It's actually like 30 minutes long. Yeah, that's good. I think that's actually better. Yeah. I feel sometimes crazy when I feel like I've run things too much. Oh, it's not good. I'm hitting that wall now too.

Yeah. We've talked about this, like being a rehearsal person, like you sort of have to be because of the nature of what you do but even at SNL like if I run things too much it ruins it

I go on stage like I've had it happen like this past run of shows where like I just ran a thing into the ground and then I show up

at dress and I'm like oh this doesn't I lost the thread like I just and it's a terrible feeling but it happens to everybody yeah sometimes you compare yourself to a former version you're like of yourself oh it

was so good when i first did it yeah and then you you know even as you're delivering the lines you go oh that didn't get as hard of a laugh as like the rehearsal or whatever and you know you stand up i really really rehearse at home. Yeah. But, you know, that's why, you know, I had a chance to do it off Broadway

before taping for HBO. But I was like, I don't know if I'm that kind of performer where I can do 400 shows and then tape it. You know, I need that raw energy.

Yeah. It's interesting because with mine, it was totally different because I've done it so many times. Yeah, yeah. Over a long time. Yeah. And because it was singing mine, it was totally different because I've done it so many times. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think over a long time. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was singing. We were going to tape. So did you tape it twice? Yeah. So traditionally, that's like what it is for everyone out there.

Like if you're watching a comedy special, that's like probably two performances edited together to make it the best of what it is. Yeah. But I thought like Gerard Carmichael, he did it four times. Really? Yeah. Can you imagine? Sorry. Sorry. No talking. No, I mean, I literally Iarmical he did it four times really oh yeah can you imagine sorry sorry you're talking no i mean i literally i i can't imagine doing it four times but also

his thing is so different like the reason why i was like it's like very raw how do you do that four times and act like you're saying it for the first time yeah i have secrets like four times it's very controlled but he's just sitting like in that same posture the whole time yeah yeah i would imagine that because that's like an emotional show and I think because it's so thoughtful

and he does, even in the way that they shot it and I worked with that production company on this. Oh, yeah. They were saying

it really does take place almost in a void what he's doing. In the way that it's shot, it sort of allows him to sort of like maybe doing it four times allowed different discoveries because.

That's true. It almost is like a monologue before it is stand up. Totally. And it's very Bo Burnham too. I feel like just in recent history, like between Gerard's thing and with Kate Berlant's show. Yeah. You know, they've run those things a million times. You know?

Yeah. I mean, I've watched Kate's show in New York and it was like very clear that this had to have been rehearsed a million times I'm just saying how do you rehearse long silences that's all I'm saying and who knows what editing is with that so there's that and also but with mine it was like

just because it was singing I just wanted to make sure I could do it two times in a row because I never have because your voice gets tired. Yeah. So the week before I did like a thing at Joe's Pub where I just did it twice in a row just to prove to myself I could do it. Right. So that I could like literally know in my body like it doesn't feel insane to sing, you know, 25 songs in a night, which is which is a lot.

No, for sure. Yeah. And then like the sketches in between that you just shot. Afterwards. Right. Okay. Yeah. And then hopefully,

I hoped in the edit that it would come together. Is yours like multimedia? Does yours have sketches and stuff? Just stand up. Just stand up. Yeah. Cool. We tried a tiny, tiny sketch in the beginning.

I was afraid like sometimes for a standup show, it could be a little cheesy. Yeah. But we were like, let's just make it short. You know, it's just my grandma being like, you haven't eaten yet, putting something in my mouth before I go on stage. Yeah. But, yeah, it just didn't work out. It didn't feel like it was in the voice.

Yeah. Or not the way you want to, like, be introducing yourself right off the top. Because those opening seconds are really important. Right. And it just didn't match where I was like, you know what? It's just a stand-up show. Totally.

Yeah. And to have your grandmother in the end is so nice because she is such a part of your life and also like part of like your work where it's like The comedy, yeah.

The comedy, you reference her a lot. Okay, so without spoiling anything, the title, The Intruder, is about someone who came to your house. Right.

Okay, you obviously get into it in the special, but like, what's like the general plot summary of that? Because that's a lot. He came to our house three times in one day. Wow. And so I was trying to figure it out. I was touring my hour of standup.

It was sort of, it had a through line, but it was jokes for an hour. And then I work with Mike Birbiglia a lot. Yeah. And he's, you know, really great at story structure he's on broadway now and i was telling him my gosh i have this story that i can't fit into my hour this intruder came to my house three times in a day and he goes wait that's three acts and i was like wow i didn't even think of that you just need someone to say it and then then all of a sudden it's there. Right.

So it starts with first intrusion, second intrusion, third intrusion, and how we got rid of the guy, you know. Wow. And ultimately. That's so good. See, now, like, I want to watch it right now. Yeah. You know, sometimes it really takes another person to look at you and go, you are Darcy or whatever, you know, whatever happened. You know what I mean? And you're like, I wouldn't have thought of that

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Yeah, Tig for sure. Yeah. That would be an iconic answer for anyone, even if she wasn't directing. Exactly. But we know that you're just sucking up. This might be the first episode of Lost Culture Tig ever listens to.

I guarantee she's never listened to it. I guarantee she's never. She might have. Maybe. I feel like she keeps her ear to the ground. I don't think I've ever tweeted for Tig. Do you ever tweet for Tig? I tweeted one day for Tig

and it was like the best day of my life. It was like, this is so cool. You just think, I'm done. I thought I was done. I was like the best day of my life it was like this is so cool you just think I'm done I thought I was done yeah and then life is really long they're like no you gotta keep doing shit

I mean you gotta pay your bills oh okay I thought tweeting for Tig is really she doesn't even know you're doing it it's such a cool thing that she does though I remember there was like a moment where like the ball was really being passed around like our friends. The same circle.

And I was like, any day now. And it never happened. I just never got past the ball. And I was like, oh, okay. Now I know what it's like to feel like that kid on the court. Like, please, please. But then like, whatever. I wasn't the best tweeter anyway

I feel like it becomes work for a day too yeah that's the thing you feel you have to be prolific and then when you're prolific like 6 out of 10 things aren't good it's like taking over someone's Instagram you're like okay now for the day you have to be thoughtful it's pressure it's high stakes and funny and on and you know but it was a different time

it was a really nice at least when I did I think she still does it she does but when I did I think she still does it but when I did it back in the day like this was like 2017 and like Twitter was even back then even post election post Trump it was like a better nicer place

than it is now you know and so like it was a different thing back then too well you could tweet something and not know that it wasn't necessarily going to be received in bad faith automatically like now i feel like nowadays on twitter it's like if you put something out there it's like probably someone's gonna troll you for sure are you off it now too we share we share it the last twitter and so at any given time like if you want to if we want to tweet something we'll tweet we can like and we sometimes do but it's like far and few between now that we like make a joke tweet

you know yeah you know i feel like we're more visual people instagram is nice instagram is nice and also there's something about this tiktok girl you two talk about tiktok because i how quickly did you how quickly did you like you understood it took me, like, a couple days to, like, understand what the fuck. I still don't like it. Yeah, it's where I just archive things, to be honest. It's nowhere near where I go first. Bless you. Bless you.

Bless you. Thank you. And so you're on it. So, I mean, well, Mike, Mike Verbiglia, who's not like, you know, no offense, but just like plugged in in that sense. Tech forward. You know what I mean? He was like, you got to on tiktok do you want to be forgotten or not oh my god and i was like well if you're on tiktok dad and you know what i mean like he's a dad and like you know on broadway and you know

what i mean like yeah yeah yeah he doesn't need to do anything me right right i was like okay does he have one yeah, so then that's interesting. Yeah, so we're all trying not to be forgotten, I guess. And so we're on there, you know. I've thought about joining it, but only because, okay, not to reference myself, but back in the days when I would do the

lip sync videos, people would be like, Bowen, you have to join. This was like 2018, 2017. They were like, Bowen, you have to join TikTok. This was before. I feel like, Bowden, you have to join TikTok. Yeah. This is before, I feel like pandemic really. They would have exploded on TikTok nowadays. It's not,

but it's not even that. I'm just like, I feel like I just missed it completely. Like I landed on what like would have been good for it. And I just totally moved past it. And now I'm like, well, now I, now I don't have like a good way in anymore.

And so. I felt the same way about my Taylor Swift things. Oh, yeah. Those were essentially made for TikTok, and I just did it on Instagram. You know, our friend Paul McCallion said the original TikToks were four nights in Orlando. I know.

I've seen those. You have? Those are great. Oh, my God. They were fun. And honestly, I did post one on TikTok, and it did well. Really?

Yeah, people liked it like it's us from like truly people this is 20 2015 yeah a long time ago and you were just like editing in your phone this was back i was editing while we were at disney world i was sort of directing matt was directing and like you know had the shot list or whatever and then yeah but it's a ton of work it's a it is a ton of work and it was back when Instagram only did 15 second videos. So we were like, oh, this is great. Like the limitation is we have to do an episode of the story in 15 seconds. Yeah.

And so the cuts were crazy. And it was literally us just being like, okay, now, but when you stand there, I'm putting the camera as far as possible to your face. And you're going to say, I'm going to get you soon. And then we just have to take that clip and I would give it to him and he'd put the music on. And like, it was inspired by American Horror Story. Yes, it's so good. When I get home, I'm posting gay ghost. Post gay ghost.

You should. On TikTok. I posted, what is the one I posted? Witch War. Witch War. So there's Witch War. There's gay ghost. And then the other good one is.

Shapeshifters. Shapeshifters. Yes. They're all. They were inspired by American Horror Story. Yeah. And. Anthology.

When you resurfaced them or whatever, right? You. Yeah. Yeah. Posted it more recently again. People on TikTok love the DIY aesthetic. Yeah, they love stupid little bits.

I'm still getting used to the fact that you can post a TikTok that's like five seconds. Totally. And some of those are the biggest ones. But I feel like it's... And I don't feel this way with Instagram. It feels very like, oh, I'll just post what I want to post. On TikTok, it feels like there's a prompt in front of me or there's a gun

to my head like make something no not really though but the pressure is off because everyone is so loose about it like it's literally just like I'm gonna do something today you should yeah just for fun but it has to be fun for you and when I have fun it's good but I try not to stress

about it because, you know. It can't be because every app is stressful. It's not supposed to be stressful. Yeah, there has to be one that's fun. And that's, I guess I was like, if I'm going to get on TikTok, like, it'll be fun. And it'll even maybe be more stupid or more basic than anything I would put on, like, Instagram. Yeah. And trust me, it has been.

No, no, I have some on there that i'm like okay i guess that song's underneath me going yeah you know yeah yeah yeah yeah that's fine it's whatever it's out there it sort of tells you what to do that's what i like about the the like you know what i mean it's like you go to your fyp and you see what's trending and you're like okay i'll do it with that one oh that's okay see that's what i'm missing is that like i'm like what do i do right there is a prompt yeah yeah and it's funny because it's it's like the culture is telling you what the prompt is and then you respond to that by doing your own and then all of a sudden it's like ha ha it's almost like crafty in that way it's crafty in that way i like that i like that as in like i thought it was so alien to like figure out what to even post but now i'm like oh okay it's like

it's anything it's anything or you can just be like i just did this thing bye and then see how it reacts it might get two views yeah because what i just said wasn't interesting uh-huh but you know yeah yeah yeah yeah but then it's like the weird shit that does pop off that you're like oh okay sure and then to be actually a creator of one of the great games you're on like hollowed ground it was so fun to watch people's remakes i learned so much about different occupations jobs jobs i didn't even know existed people would do it at their work we have to do one when we're done with this oh yeah yeah yes you already y'all did one at which awards i feel like you did it we did one at critics awards? I feel like you did it at an award. We did one at Critics' Choice.

Did we do it at Critics' Choice? We did one at... I've done it multiple times already. Oh, yeah. You did it at SNL. We did it at SNL. Yeah. And, I mean, it's always...

It's a beautiful thing. It also throws back to that great fucking song. Great song. To drop. I've always loved that part on the song. Boom. Yeah. Yeah.

And I was like, there's something to it. I mean, it was just us being silly in little Tokyo of Los Angeles. Yeah. But yeah, the occupations were wild. There was like a person who, a rock splitter. So just like every time he would go down and break the rock, he would squat down. Wait. Yeah.

Is that possible? Like, you put all your weight forward, but then you also do lower body? Yeah, it's wild. Very athletic. You know, there was a person, like a fisherman on a boat doing it and then fell over. Oh, my God. But kept that, and that's the one he posted. Have people died as a result of the drop?

Not that I know of, but when he fell over, I was like, what have I done? Yeah, you killed a man with that ass. Killed a man with that ass is also a great title. The cast of Hamilton, that's how I met.

This season's cast, that's how I met Asian Aaron Burr. Oh my God, he's so good, Jin. Okay, yeah. He's so good. Okay, I haven't seen. Oh, he's excellent. He's a great Aaron Burr. Oh my God. He's so good, Jin. Okay. Yeah. He's so good. Okay. I haven't seen. Oh, he's excellent.

He's a great Aaron Burr. Oh, okay. I took my parents to see him. Did you go because of him or it's like you just went to go see it and this happened to be the cast? Kind of both. Like I knew that he was going on

and he just started and then my parents were in town. Yeah. And I was like, I'm going to take him to see Hamilton. My dad falls asleep. Yeah. Roland didn't love. Well, he just, it's not that he didn't love. He just fell asleep then my parents were in town. Yeah. And I was like, I'm going to take him to see Hamilton. My dad falls asleep. Yeah, Roland didn't love. Well, it's not that he didn't love.

He just fell asleep. He was tired. Well, the city's a lot. The city's a lot. Travel. Travel. But my mom was like, wow, this is amazing. I was like, okay, mom gets it.

Yeah. That's great. It's a good parent show. It's a great parent show. Yeah, because it's history. Literally. There's love. There's love.

There's love. There's music. There's love. There's love. There's love. There's music. There's history. There's murder. There's intrigue. Everything you want. There's flirting with betrayal. And there's actual betrayal.

Yeah, 100%. There's ass. There's ass. But it is always like three hours. How long is it? It's pretty long. It's three hours. It's like a long one, but it doesn't feel long.

It doesn't feel long. No. It's like a typical Broadway musical. Us talking about Hamilton now. A hundred years later 2022 i know it was you know it's have you seen it drop challenge i have seen it i haven't seen it not this cast though i was saying that's how i met you know asian aaron burr i know that's cool i feel like freaking who's the main Hamilton it has been a million years so yeah I feel like Hamilton was Asian too I don't know

there might have been an Asian Hamilton somewhere but it did bring communities together and I was discovering folks too and that was really cool

to see yeah it's like that kind of TikTok challenge where anyone anywhere can do it which is perfect

it's not like it's even better than like a full on choreo dance. Yeah, yeah. Because those are like, it takes a lot of buy-in for people to like, okay, I got to learn it and then do it. But it's like, the prompt is to do something like anywhere and that's the fun of it. It can be on a fishing boat. It can be backstage.

I'm sitting here so excited that we're going to do one. We'll do one. We'll like sit into our seats like we were about to record. Yes. And then you can do one getting up too to the beat. Okay, perfect. There's so many.

That is a good one. Sitting down to record. Sitting down to record. We can make the chairs really low too. Like watch this. Oh no. I guess my chair is as low as it can go. Don't you love those chairs

where you can pull the lever and they go down? And it goes down. Is yours all the way down? I don't know. I thought it was stationary. I thought this was it. Mine didn't go down that much. And it goes down. Is yours all the way down? I don't know. I thought it was stationary. I thought this was it. Hold on.

Mine didn't go down that much. It's so thrilling. Ready? Watch. Just boom. Mine didn't go that far. But like I used to have a chair when I was younger.

Like one of those like because your body was smaller. Because my body was smaller and the computer chairs and like you go so high up and you could just go and I was like beyond the Tower of Terror

in your own home. Tower of Terror. Tower of Terror in your own home. Period. Which is say Tower of Terror. Tower of Terror in your own home, period. Which is now Guardians of the Galaxy. Someone corrected me. I have like some Disney jokes in my hour. Oh, and then someone came,

oh no, corrected. Yeah, and I was like, right, of course. Oh, please, that nerd. You know, Disneyland is tough because there's, you know, you think you're a fan of Disneyland and then there's bigger fans, you know? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. People who picketed outside, remember, they were like, bring back the magic. like bring back the magic we talked all about it when it happened we were like this is a little too much because i was like oh maybe i'm obsessing too much i was like looking at the ticket links and when is it open again you know stuff like that i do the lightning the landing lane yeah so you're up to date on how to navigate the parks now people call me a disney adult you know and then i see that and i'm like, man, I'm not like that. Right. People call us Disney adults and we're like, no, no, no.

Yeah. We just like we're organized so that we can have a not so stressful day. Well, don't even get me started because nowadays it's like. I sent you the link to this Kotaku article that goes in depth about how fucked up it is. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. And like. How fucked up what is? Well, it's crazy. It's crazy. And like, how fucked up what is?

Well, so basically the pricing of it. So basically they talked about, they basically broke it down in a way that no like major publication really has about exactly how much money it is. Like say for a family of four, right? So it's like $169 or whatever the fuck for like a one park ticket.

And then you get the like add on to go to both parks and Disneyland or park hopper. And then like when you get in, you have to pay for the Disney plus serve or the genie plus service. And then there's certain rides like rise of the resistance, which have you done that? Yes. Yes.

Unbelievable. Bowen hasn't done it yet, but you have to pay 20 bucks to do that one on top of the amount you've already paid right this is kind of a scam not a single word has been said yet about buying food which you also have to like get a reservation if you want to sit down and eat like months in advance and then there's also the whole ordering of the food thing you can't just walk up to a kiosk and buy food you have to order in advance and then nothing's been said yet about hotels transportation like all these things that add up to

basically an amount of money that you're paying. And also like, haven't even gotten into how confusing the app is if you don't know what you're doing. No, 100%. Yeah. Like my parents who had to navigate all of that, like when we were growing up,

like didn't- Forget it. Like English, not their first language. Like they could never do it now. No. They would just get in line and then just stand there thinking- Exactly. Forget it. Like English, not their first language. Yeah. They could never do it now. No. And the whole record. They would just get in line and then just stand there thinking. Yeah, exactly.

This is my only right. And it's like, no, you can skip the line. But it's like you'd have to. They just suffer. Exactly. But it's like what we've been saying, what you've been saying, Matt. And what I think everybody thinks is like it used to be this like attainable middle class thing. Like you bring your kids to Disneyland or Disney World,

and then that's an accessible, attainable thing. It's the happiest place on earth. And now it's just so cost prohibitive. And it's all about the bottom line for the parks for Disney, but it's also like the reason that FastPass was invented was because people at Disney were like, oh, the more people wait in line, the less they're buying food and gifts.

And so you might as well incentivize. It helps everybody if you take them out of the line and expedite it. But now it's just like, there's no good reason for anything. And another thing too is the fan community is now railing against them in a major way. Like all of the YouTube bloggers

and the vloggers and stuff like that, like people that have devoted all their time and energy like real disney adults like yeah exactly like real died in the world this is like a part of the culture this is the culture that made them say culture was for them down and like they have the season passes and they go into the park every day and update you on like what's under construction what's being added etc it is a entire ecosystem and fan community right they now are all being like this is the worst it's ever been it now is like they'll announce projects and then cancel them like wow yes like they were supposed to be like this mary poppins ride that they were putting in and that's since been canceled

they're probably not going to do a lot of the stuff they were going to do with the announced they have like a big revamp of epcot that's now half happening half not they announced the tron roller coaster coming to magic kingdom in 2017 it's it's now coming in middle of 2023 or early 2023 i mean like of course there was the pandemic but it's just it's odd when you put that in juxtaposition with universal which often don't announce projects that are fully built. Wow. And then they announce them. It's two different ideologies.

Right. So it's like Disney's thing is we're going to really let you know in advance what our vision is and what our plan is. And then half of it comes to fruition or when it comes to fruition like no one cares anymore whereas universal is like we're doing something you can clearly see what it is to the point where i went to universal in orlando and the velocicoaster was built wow and i was like when is that opening and the cast members were literally like we don't know what you're talking about we don't see that oh my god that. We don't see that. Oh my God. That's funny.

The bit was that it was not announced so they did not acknowledge it. They talk big games unlike your series which you shot in 2015 which you will post on TikTok. Yes.

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should we move on to I Don't Think So Honey? I think it's time to move on to I Don't Think So Honey. I think it's time to move on to I Don't Think So Honey. So this is the 62nd segment on our podcast, Lost Culture Recess, which we actually just talked about. And now this podcast is going to sort of move into its final segment. I don't think So Honey

is a 60 second dragging of something in pop culture that's really getting our goat. And I have something. And even though this episode is going to be airing three weeks from now, I'm going to do it now because it's top of mind and understand that I am saying this on November 17th? This is November 17th.

Okay, this is Matt Rogers' November 17th. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Ticketmaster. What the fuck is going on? You can't... And talk about announcing something and then jerking back the chain. Oh my god. Public on sale for the Taylor Swift Eros tour was November 18th, and here it is, November 17th,

famously, as we just said, and I don't think so, honey, that a lot of us are getting tickets. And honestly, AOC is right. This is a fucking crazy bullshit problem that ticket master is this much of a monopoly that now you have to pay thousands of dollars to go to this concert not for nothing but like i want to see taylor more than anyone else i'm gonna deal with everyone else but this is really cost prohibitive and now it's really crazy I mean this is all getting out of control and it's like really in line with I don't think so honey the capitalist culture that we're in

just like Disney that we're talking about you're making things unavailable to the public you are you are creating an elitist system I hope that she's somewhere really furious about this and I'm sure something is done because this is not fair it's not fair to people that were like

you know thinking they would just get online fair like everyone else that i get the pre-sale is now on sale but like i don't think so honey that's one minute um i got the verified fan code and i could not for the life of me get any of my hands on tickets anyway this is no yeah no it's pretty crazy i always want things for the people. Yeah, socialists. And that's what we're talking about. Wait in line like everyone else. Honestly, we love FastPass, but when you hear how dark it is.

Yeah. It is dark. You hear that it's like, oh, well, we only did that so people can shop more. It's like, yeah, of course, I understand that as a business, but then when you start that, when you give a mouse a cookie,

he's going to want a glass of milk. he's going to want a glass of milk. He's going to want a glass of milk. And so basically, like, it's just like when you when we take a step in that direction, like, of course, it's going to lead to something like this. Of course. Of course. This is so crazy. I mean, like, I guess it's the most popular tour of all time, period, point blank. But to just cancel.

I know. Everything. Well, this is like huge news. This is like huge news. This is like, and again, we're recording this a few weeks before the release of this episode, but like it is like major, major news. I mean, like for politicians

to be getting involved in now weighing in on this, it's like something does need to be done. There's an investigation in Tennessee. Really? On like Ticketmaster, because they're like, we need to look into this. And like, unfortunately or fortunately,

it's a thing where like both sides of the aisle are like this is actually crazy but it is ultimately but i feel like obviously it's more of a left-leaning issue or it's more urgent on the left because it's like oh this is a monopoly and we gotta regulate this somehow yeah but but then the right loves country taylor this is a country pop problem. This is a country pop problem. This is actually an American thing. Yeah, the right likes one thing, the left likes another. But ultimately, it is about figuring out what this Live Nation merger with Ticketmaster is going to look like. Because that's the fucking thing.

They're merging. And so there is no other option. And so there is no other way for anyone to get tickets to this fucking tour or any concert or any sporting event. It's nuts. So what, prices got really high? Thousands of dollars. Tens of thousands. Okay, yeah. To go to a concert for I mean, an hour and a half. An hour and a half where it takes you an hour

each way or more each way because the seating I mean, forget about the getting in and out of the venue of like 60,000 people. And the thought processes to just for them to make money okay yeah anyway oh I forgot about that isn't it crazy it's just like

it's not to weed out no they say it's to weed out bots it's to like we're setting up all these systems so that like bots and scalpers don't buy tickets but it's like well then you're not even letting the actual real people buy it's to like that we're setting up all these systems so that like bots and scalpers don't buy tickets but it's like right yeah well then you're not even letting the actual real people buy it's crazy and then what happens is like ultimately like someone will find their way around that like bots will buy these tickets and yes and then what will happen is they'll end up selling those

for even more like exactly and that changes your demographic too of course it changes the audience it's like, who are these folks who aren't into culture? You know, just because they have money. Maybe they come from Miami. It's old money. They don't care. They just want to like sit somewhere and like not talk to their wife.

So that's not your demographic. No. You know, just some... And also, yeah, or just like the tickets being bought and then of course now they're bought. So you think there's going to be butts in seats there. But then there's like some third party selling it for amount of money that no one wants to pay.

And then there's no one. It's fucked up. It's not. It's not cool. It's broken. It's not working. Definitely. And I mean, like, obviously, like this sucks, but maybe now this is a big enough deal.

I think so. That like we can get some sort of agreement on something to do with it in Congress just to zoom out for a second it's also just like a testament to like how big she is as an artist right now amazing

she has five shows at Sophie Stadium in LA in LA yeah and it's like this is still at the stadium level yeah

five shows crazy that's nuts to say nothing of the rest of the tour yeah crazy crazy what's the seating capacity

at Sophie I looked it up once at least something like that something like that so like 200,000 people yeah but also who's to say like

if it's not the same people again and again who could just pay for it you know what I mean like that's what sucks yeah anyways it's like back to

I think back in the day they were like Taylor say something about politics like taylor say something about politics and now taylor say something about no yeah now she has a chance again and now it's like yeah it's like this is now the new politics this is now her standing up to ms what is her um ms ms ms senator from nashville no yeah yeah yeah um miss i forget who it was god we whatever she's awful she's awful. She's awful.

Do you have an I Don't Think So Honey, though? I do. It's not quite as urgent, but it's bothering me. I'm sure it's bothering everybody. It's okay that it's not urgent because, again, this is being recorded on November 17th

and being released on... Marsha Blackburn. Marsha Blackburn. I was saying Martha McSally, but she's Miss Arizona. I didn't have to look it up. It just came to me. Can we confirm?

Okay. It's good. Because you were in the spotlight. You were like, I have a minute to look it up. It just came to me. Yeah. Can we confirm? Okay. It's good. Because you were in the spotlight. You were like, I have a minute. And it came. And it came. Marsha Blackburn.

Oh, she is a horrible woman. She's horrid. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey as time starts now. I Don't Think So Honey tagging people or me, anybody in a giveaway

on Instagram. Have you guys been dealing with this? Random people tagging your name into like some random giveaway. It's been, people do it to me, but I think people would do it to anybody. But OK, so basically like a company will do like a giveaway and they tag your friend who would love this. And it's like things that I would never be interested in.

And I think this is a phenomenon that's happening. This is not just a me problem. I can guarantee you guys are looking at me like I'm crazy. But it's sweepstakes culture sweepstakes have always been bullshit it's always been scam culture it borrows principles of MLM it's like sign up, give your information

pay a little bit of money so you can win a whole bunch of scholastic books that was the version when we were kids and I feel like sweepstakes have always been a fucking scam I've not known a single person who's ever won a sweepstakes if you've won like sweepstakes have always been a fucking scam. I've not known a single person who's ever won a sweepstakes.

If you've won a sweepstakes in your life, you're fake. You're part of the simulation. You're not real. Okay. And please let me know if you have won a sweepstakes.

I would love to get to know you. And just one minute. Honestly, yeah. I always wanted to win a sweepstakes. Like it was very Nickelodeon culture. But I never knew

a single person who won one. No. They were all fake kids. They were bot kids. Bot kids. And then sometimes they would put them on tv like hi i'm i'm larry and i won the sweepstakes no you're not no you're fake you're zero zero one zero zero one zero zero one yeah it's true it's always been earned at least like price is right where it's like we saw the work yeah yeah yeah yeah it's never it's very nickelodeon culture yeah where i was like did that person get a free trip to Orlando? I don't know.

Or is their father Daniel Orlando? Or Mary Price is right. Yeah, Candace Nickelodeon. So people are tagging you thinking you would be interested in the things or is it just like random? I think they just like to tag Bowen. No, it's this thing where...

And I think people... It's an involuntary thing of like, if I saw, oh, Starbucks is doing a giveaway of coffee. They would never do this, but I'd be like, I'm going to tag Atsuko. Even though I don't know if you like coffee or not. I'm like, I'm going to assume that Atsuko likes Starbucks. I'm saying this is my example because I have Starbucks in front of me. But that's out of kind, like, I don't even think it's this kind of well-being. It's not.

It's not out of that because it's like I don't need this stuff. I don't want this stuff. Maybe it is to just get your attention. I mean because if it's strangers, if it's is it your friends? No, it's never my friends. You would like these shoes. It's never my friends. Sometimes this happens. Yeah, now I'm understanding what you're saying.

It'll just be like a weird like corporate thing where it's just like a ton of hashtags and like it feels weird and then you're tagged in it yeah I bet it's algorithms there's this new thing too where people like I don't know if it's happened to you but people have been tagging me in their comedy videos or something yeah so it ends up

in my tags so if people want to see other things I'm tagged in they gotta swim through that yeah you gotta approve your tags from now on yeah I'll do that approved tags okay yeah I didn't know things i'm tagged in they gotta swim through that yeah you gotta approve your tags from now on okay yeah i'll do that big time now approve tags okay yeah i didn't know where i was like oh what's this like and then i realized the philosophy behind it yeah yeah where i was like oh so people watch the video thinking i'll pop up in it you know but i never do but now they've given i don't know jack

smith a view yeah yeah and jack smith is one of the nastiest comedians out there. He's a fraudster. He's a bot. And I was a QC and I like one of my DMs and he had written me, hi, how do I start standup? You know, that kind of thing. Yeah.

Tips. Yeah. Tips please, tips now. Well, did you tell him you tag other comedians? Cause maybe you have a problem with yourself. I just block out whenever I do this. I don't remember. You sleepwalk, give disadvantage advice to... Ryan's doing it.

To men. Yeah, it's Ryan. Oh my God, what if you found out your husband was doing that to you? Just helping. Yeah. Helping other comics. Maybe he's Jax. He's Jax.

Jax. Whatever. Yeah, that's not even his name it was like a very very like John Doe kind of name yeah or it's like oh

well speaking of oh it's time for you to do I don't think so honey are you ready oh my gosh I get so nervous I talk so slow

I'm such a it doesn't matter no it's not about you do it like you be like Atsuko be the singular voice this is not Black Tie this is not

the Beacon Theater this is Elsewhere this is DIY thank you so much I was voice this is not Black Tie this is not the Beacon Theater this is Elsewhere thank you so much I was also thinking about the Black Tie thing now it's really easy for you to have a dark era

because you get so colorful when you have your dark era it's really gonna be really stand out wow that's true you should have a dark era and then bleach the hair yes

the hair has to change right it doesn't have to but it can if you want no I know that would be nice I always think about that. Like Billie Eilish.

I've seen the bleached hair on you and it looks great. Yeah, exactly. But as a stand-up, it's so hard. You don't want to change for me too much. Of course. That might be a joke. I have to acknowledge it maybe when I'm doing sets around town. And it'll be a thing I talk about in the next hour kind of thing.

Well, if you run out of material right right not that you would yeah yeah but you'll know you'll know when i do so that's the next hour and this is the next minute this is atko's i don't think so honey the time starts now i don't think so honey so many reality to see i'm already a different energy so many reality shows about finding love right there's so many shows about finding love love is blind too hot to handle the bachelor you know but there's no shows about finding friends oh my god and isn't that hard enough you know and especially it's like there's still this you know the global pandemic we all came out of it we all acted like you know

you ever look around the world you go, what the fuck is going on? What happened is 2020 very much happened. And a bunch of unwell people got released back into the wild. And it's like, find love, find love. It's like, bitch, I'm still figuring out how to socialize. How do you make friends as an adult? That's hard. It was easier as kids.

And so, yeah, that's what I would like to see a show where you just you know two adults finding a friendship in each other or groups of people being like I found a friend out of this and that's one minute this is very very interesting it is kind of funny like has there

ever been a reality show that's like finding your friend well there was a reality show I think it was Paris Hilton's new best friend yeah yeah yeah yeah she was finding a friend she doesn't need the friends she doesn't need the friends and I think you're talking about something else go but it's like

a reality show about who can make the most friends which is fucked up maybe or who's the best socializer like that kind of thing actually I was more talking about people who might be having a hard time making friends

so it's not like a Craven thing although I do think that's a different show which is really fun it's people who move to a new city who do not have any friends and they want to find friends I also think there is something fun about this idea of, it's a reality show, which is like hidden camera.

And there's like three contestants and they have to make as many quote unquote friends at the end of the season. And then at the end of the season, they have to sit down with their friends and say, I started this not really wanting to be a friend on a reality show. And like, that's kind of interesting.

It's like if you were given 10 people at random and you as the contestant had to make friends with as many of them as possible even if you didn't like them had nothing in common and then you have to tell them at the end the only reason you tried their friendship was so that you could win like a million dollars that's kind of fun yeah that's you gamified it yeah now that's a game show because you know that's what they're looking for now they want like you can't just do like you know half hour like a game show type reality shows they want like lifestyle the mole uh the circle like social type well i guess the circle is sort of like that it's about like tricking people yeah but yeah there's something about just like in a post pandemic world how do you like get people to socialize again in a meaningful way?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, it doesn't have to be about like romantic. No. You know, maybe that'll come or like, okay, if you get married off a show, like love is blind. Yeah. How are you going to get married if you don't have friends? Yeah.

Who's going to plan? You know what I mean? Who's going to introduce you to people? We assume that that's a thing that everyone has. And, you know, maybe I'm opening up, but yeah,

it's a new thing that I'm kind of realizing and talking about because I'm like, you know, yeah, how do you find friends as an adult? Yeah.

Just through work. It's... Well, for me, I always feel like I make friends through my friends. Yeah. You know what I mean? And honestly,

like that's been from having friends for a long time. But I've only had, I think I have probably between four and five friends that I've had for a really long time. You've been my friend for a really long time, Sudi. And then when I moved to Los Angeles, I made all my new friends through Joel, who was one of my old friends. You know what I mean? And then you've met some of them through me

but that's interesting if you did not have you didn't have a circle or like yeah exactly that's a tough thing yeah everything

turns into high school again especially if it's a new space you're entering you know and people might be like oh no it's okay I already have five

you know yeah I don't know. There's nothing that bothers me more than the idea that people are lonely. I know. That really hurts. I get very emotional about that. The idea that I take for granted the fact that, in fact, I think that's the most important thing in my life is friendship.

And so I get really sad when I think about people that don't have at least a person or a couple people that they can like talk to. And so I'm like love, love is actually, you can do that. But like a, you know, someone to call and be like, oh, that date didn't work out. Yeah. You know what I mean? Totally. Because it's like, why you got to settle down for love, like romance? There's just so many shows about that.

I'm like, they've got it covered. Totally. Okay. You can technically get through life without falling in love yes you can't really get through life without a meaningful friendship yeah yeah yeah yeah and there's also the idea that like there are specific apps for having sex dating all these things but like in terms of like friend apps like i'm sure they exist but there's something like, there's like a self-consciousness that I would feel being on an app to make friends

that I wouldn't. Totally. Because at least, you know, what the end game of like a romantic thing is, right? Like you either want to have sex with someone, date someone, marry someone, build a life with someone, like it is limited things.

With friendship, it's like, yeah, I want a friend to get coffee with, get lunch with, go on vacation with. It's so open-ended. It's so open-ended. It's really open-ended and you don't really know. But I guess another thing is that's why people join community activities. Sure, sure. Right.

No, totally. That's why people play Pokeball. Mm-hmm. With Pokeball. Sorry, sorry. Pickleball. Oh, pickle. I know, which is such a thing.

I feel like it's back in the zeitgeist. It's really hard. Everyone's doing it. My aunt and uncle picked it up. There's a show called Pickled coming out. Yes. Really? Will Ferrell.

Our daddy Will Ferrell is on it. Yeah. I think. My daddy Tig is on it. Your daddy Tig is on it? Oh my God. Kelly Rowland is on it. Really?

Yes. Yeah. It's celebrity Pickleball. Yeah. Do you think Kelly Rowland's going to be good? I bet she's great. I bet she's going to be amazing. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Stephen Colbert hosts it. It's like all celebrity, it's celebrity pickleball. Yeah. Do you think Kelly Rowland's going to be good? I bet she's great. I bet she's going to be amazing. Yeah.

Yeah. Stephen Colbert hosted. He's hosting, yeah, Colbert's hosting. I'm going to watch. I'm going to watch that too. I'm so excited.

Celebrity's playing sport, like a silly quote unquote sport. It's not silly. It's just like, it's a very loaded sport. Like it's like people have such, you say the word pickleball and people like are ready

to go off on it. Yeah. It's like the new dodgeball or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just thought of Beyonce and Kelly checking in with each other on a phone call. And Kelly being like, girl, when is the tour happening? When are the visuals coming? And Beyonce being like, they're coming.

And yeah, we're working on them right now. Has pickled. And what's up with you? She's like, well, pickled is about to start. Oh, good luck, Kelly. I think you're going to be so good. Yeah, thanks. And they're going to party me with Will Ferrell. Oh, I love Will Ferrell. pickled is about to start um good luck kelly you're gonna be so good yeah thanks man you know they're gonna pardon me with will ferrell oh i love will ferrell he's in he's in some of my

favorite movies all right girl talk to you later yeah i'm here with my favorite my idol steven colbert like they're yeah how steven he's funny he's really good at the hosting such a different world i saw her funny. Such a different world. I saw her in a movie recently, right? Where she plays a mom, Kelly Rowland. Kelly Rowland? Yeah. She's always been the actress.

Wonderful actress. She's always been the actress out of the two of them. Yeah. And Michelle Williams was in that Lifetime movie. Oh, I didn't watch that. Yeah. And so was Tina Knowles. Well, okay.

That's what I'll be watching. Tonight. I'm going to start TikTok. You watch the Lifetime movies. Matt, what are you going to do tonight. I'm going to start TikTok. You watch the Lifetime movies. Matt, what are you going to do tonight? I'm going to watch another episode of The White Lotus. Oh, yes. Wrong answer.

You have to upload something on TikTok. Oh, I'm uploading gay ghosts. Yes. Perfect. We all have our agendas. Yeah, we really do. What an incredible episode this was. Thank you for having me.

We are so excited for The Intruder. December 10th on HBO and you can watch it on HBO via HBO Max henceforth afterwards that's right

that's right oh earlier on yeah before we started this whole thing the first fighting words towards Bowen was that

he gives off android vibes yes and then you said I was on HBO Max no and let the record show

it's HBO presents presents The Intruder You said I was on HBO Max. No, and let the record show. It's HBO presents the intruder. Y'all were saying, who says originals? I was like, HBO Max does. HBO Max. They do do that. They really do do that. They say Max originals. Yeah, they do do that.

What I like about HBO Max is the... Props. I love that. I feel like I'm really activating when I log on. It's like all my atoms are coming together into one body it's not my favorite streamer that is of course say it with me peacock but i um i think there's room for all of them no we're just enough he's an hbo max employee and you're both hbo employees no you're right i'm employees of them all i'm an employee of showtime and i'm an

employee of hbo i'm an employee of Netflix when they want me to. And of course, I went down with a Quibi ship and so did you. So did you. But two... I never saw The Light of Day.

Oh my God. Did you shoot it and it never came out? No. You didn't even shoot it. I just shot the pilot. You shot the pilot. Let's Go Otsuko

was supposed to be a Quibi original. You shot the pilot. Well, and yet still you stand. Both of you. Yeah. My legends. Thank you. And now we supposed to be a Quibi original. You shot the pilot. Well, and yet still you stand. Both of you. My legends. Thank you.

And now we have to sing a song to close the episode about overcoming. When I think of you. Bass. There are times when I look above and beyond. There are times when I feel at the front of the yard. There are times when I feel your love on me,

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