Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang - "Kunt 4 The Summer" (w/ Sudi Green)

Episode Date: August 18, 2021

Sudi literal Green joins Matt & Bowen, her best friends, for one of the great Las Cultch traditions: the annual Summer of Kunt episode in which the ladies all explore their summer ambitions and emotions. You're gonna laugh, you're gonna cry, and you're gonna drag us for this. There's not much to say, really, You just have to sort of listen and feel your kunt, down deep in your soul. Only *you* can wrinkle time... Xo Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Wow. Las Culturistas. Ding dong wow Las Culturistas ding dong Las Culturistas calling holiday vibes holiday vibes a Las Culturistas holiday you were the one and I'm sorry

I didn't mean to once again co-opt one of your phrases because you walked in with our guest and you said holiday vibes and I said

he's right I don't think of it as my phrase I think of it as our phrase I think of it as Las Culturistas well I think not to bring up phrase. I think of it as Las Custas Terenas.

Well, I think, not to bring up work, but I feel like I'm very fastidious about credit, where credit should go. And like, that was, you said that. Like that,

credit goes to you because that is your- Thank you for lifting me up. But I'm just saying, if you want to get on the podcast and say holiday vibes because it's a holiday vibe. Yeah.

That's just, I don't own that. That's, I share that. That's about what the holidays are all about sharing and giving the gift of a phrase and you but see it's just you are a pump of phrases that i love being described as a pump you have no idea what that did it is it is is. I'll have a better day. Miracle worker vibes. The pump. Down. Me.

I am Helen. I am the other one. I'm either of them. I'm the damn Keller family. Yeah. Going to the pump and saying, what's this? A phrase?

A phrase? Basically, that's you described how Helen Keller sort of came to be. Do you believe that Helen Keller was carrying? Do you think she was carrying down? Well, what was she giving? She was giving lessons, Mama. She was giving iconography.

Giving iconography. Giving, let's just say, when you see a young girl bent over a faucet. A pump, really. That's why I brought up Miss Keller. And I'm saying, you iconically know what that image is. You're like, that's Miss Ann Sullivan, who was her name. No, Ann Sullivan? Annie Sullivan, the teacher, the miracle worker herself.

No, it's not Ann Sullivan. Literally, do you want to bet $25? I'll bet you $25. Annie Sullivan. Okay, hold on, reader, hold on. While he looks, I just want to say, we're in a Brooklyn podcasting studio. The energy is hot, holiday vibes alive. We're here with,

we say hot engineer a lot. We've got a hot, hot engineer. It's hot engineer Walter, everybody. He's, okay, he's just, he's making, he's throwing his hands up. Okay, I own that $25. Oh my God. Who could forget?

And Bancroft, I forgot it. And Bancroft as Annie Sullivan. Can I say something? Keep your money. Babe, we made a bet. I'm a man of my word. You know how I said before about how we share the phrases of the giving and the gifting and the receiving

and the that? And whose phrase is keep your money? Whose is that? Was I going to say? Sorry. Both of ours. I'm telling you, we share it all. And I'm saying that it also goes with the money. My money is your money, girl. Girl. And I feel the same for you. How many versions of The Miracle Worker

did you have to watch in elementary school? Well, definitely. You know what my favorite time was? Whenever in English class, you would read a play. And then you would watch it? No, you would act it out. Like, okay, today,

you're going to play The Crucible, like the lead guy on The Crucible. Yeah, what were your plays? Well, we definitely did The Crucible, like the lead guy on The Crucible. Yeah, what were your plays? We definitely did The Crucible, and we definitely did The Miracle Worker, which is why I say. Really? Those are interesting. Those are interesting choices.

And I'm telling you, those were my favorite days when you get to act. You get to do the play. But sometimes they are frustrating because some kids, and we can say it, not readers. Not readers. Well, as in they didn't actually read the text.

No, as in they struggle reading the words. Yeah, yeah. Famously, young kids, they didn't actually read the text no as in like they struggle reading the words yeah famously young kids they're learning to read absolutely

and also a lot of actors we know not that we know but it's like drag them I'm just saying the longer you work

in this business the more you go oh I didn't know that famous person has trouble reading and I don't think it's a dyslexia thing no no no

some people just aren't good at cold reads. Some of the best actors in the world, that's not the way they internalize. Oh, I'm so bad at the cold read. You feel this way? Can I just quickly share my plays in high school? Yes. They were, we did, well, we did West Side Story in the eighth grade, which was my favorite.

Oh my God. And that's like, it really did solidify like why, the reason why West Side Story is my favorite show, musical. Rachel. Which is so basic. Rachel Ziegler vibes. And then in high school, we did Streetcar Named Desire, which I also loved.

Same. But I, we all had to, everyone had to be Stanley or a Blanche or a Stella. And I had to be like Marlon. I had to be like Stanley and it was humiliating.

Because you, because I had to play Mask. Well, yes, you're playing Mask, whatever. Also, it just sucks as a gay individual. Because you want Because I had to play Mask. Well, yes, you're playing Mask, whatever. Also, it just sucks as a gay individual.

Because you want to play Blanche so badly. Probably like being- Probably see a flop playing Blanche. Oh my God. It was flop parade down. Not giving, not carrying, not holding no thing. There's nothing more humiliating when a girl can't give Blanche in class. It's so fucking humiliating. You know who't give Blanche in class. It's so

fucking humiliating. You know who could give Blanche down? Who? Our guests. Our guests. And this is the summer of Cuckoo. The Tennessee Williams muse. This is, I've never seen more Blanche energy. That's insulting to an extent. Well, no. Okay, wait. Actually, the more I

think about it, what I'm saying is when I look over at our guests, it is the iconic you that's the word i'm searching for icon icon our guests walter's laughing walter's laughing his hot little laugh oh my god it's inaudible but that's the best of all the best guys shut up should i guys shut up we don't know if he's whatever um let's talk about our guest is he um our guest is really one of the one of the best people out there a watershed human watershed human i agree i don't disagree which watershed human i mean there's where do we i'm overwhelmed because i don't even know Where to start Well let's start In the beginning

Born Actually Get this And this is All my sisters Were born Around the world We were born within

A week of each other In Africa She was born in No she was not born in Africa You lived in Africa She lived there She was not born there Were you born in Indiana

Okay Born In Indiana Oh my god Lived In Africa in Africa. She lived there. She was not born there. Were you born in Indiana? Okay. Born in Indiana. Oh my God. Lived in Africa, bitch. But not born there? No. Oh, okay. And I never said that. Never once. Never once.

Sometimes I get my girls mixed up. Because my one girl was born in Australia here. And my other girl, she lived in Africa. My other girl. I think she is really one. Huh? I'm not a girl. She lives in Africa. Girl. Um, I think she is really one,

one, huh? When she went, no. Icon. Icon. Iconic behavior. Iconic behavior.

Blanche. Blanche. Blanche vibes. Blanche, Rachel Ziegler vibes, holiday vibes. Honey. Honey.

I mean, I, I, I want to do the Letterman thing of our next Guest Needs No Introduction. And you just did it. And now we said it. And now we said it. Because if you listen to the podcast for any number of years, it's had to be for at least

a couple years for this to be exciting for you that we're entering another, that we've been in another summer of cunt. And that we have our guest here with us to really process it, unpack it. We couldn't be more thrilled. This is one of those days where you smile all day. And then you get to sort of the moment. And you've just been smiling so much. You've been smiling so much.

And as my tears come to my eyes, people have been asking for this. Oh, you wouldn't believe the requests. And it's here. And it's here. At the sort of, we could say end of the summer. Well, we're at an interesting time. We're at the sort of the twilight of it, you know? And in this twilight of summer,

we begin Summer of Cunt 4 by bringing in the queen, the iconic Blanche, a watershed human. Welcome our guest, Sudie Green! I've always relied on the kindness of strangers. Name another legend.

It's too bright in this room! It's so bright! You definitely played Blanche in school. Oh my god, no, I didn't. But I remember my freshman year at NYU. First of all thank you for recognizing me as an african um african born i am the diaspora i carry it with me every day but i did my freshman year we did street car my freshman year at nyu we we read street car and i'll never forget this is like my second week at NYU.

And my professor goes, the first lines of the play. And I'm doing like an incredible impression of him. And he like kind of had like this like very big head and kind of pointed with like a T-Rex. I think I remember this guy. I think I had him too. He sounds hot. This play, first lines are, here, meet, catch catch it and he's primal and it's sexual and i was like wow i'm about to get educated yeah absolutely and it's hot oh and the air is hot this guy is a front runner for best teacher we ever had yeah his name start with an R last name was an R

Robert something yeah Rangeli maybe we're naming names first and last he was not wrong it was

but definitely there was a Rangeli famously Sudi and I were in the same program and I really I really just like will misty-eyed

I'm just I get misty-eyed listening to you guys talk about that time in your lives because I'm just like I mean we've done this literally every summer kind of episode wherey-eyed I'm just I get misty-eyed listening to you guys talk about that time in your lives because I'm just like I mean we've done this literally every summer

kind of episode where you guys where I'm like what was that like because I really don't everybody wants to hear people who went to NYU relive those days

that is especially other comedians they love it really want to hear about kids that went to NYU and what it was like oh my god they want to they want to sort of live vicariously in that experience.

And also, talk about your musical sketch group that you were all in. Oh, my God. You know what I remember today and I told someone? Oh, no. We were really kicked out of a musical theater improv group. You and I, that's right. We really were, bitch. And that's funny.

That's funny. I think that's hilarious. I would, no, I'm so much happier. You were great at it. I was horrible. They kicked us both out because we both, I guess, lacked what it was,

the technique of musical improv. Which is... It is a technique. Yeah, but girl, we were carrying down. You saw Happy Karaoke Fun Time, which, by the way, that was its name.

I don't think I did. She didn't come. Let's not drag this wonderful't come let's not drag this wonderful you know shared effort in that group you're right

it was incredible wonderful people yeah let's talk about the fact that I wasn't accepted into Dangerbox yeah your improv group

so actually kind of you kind of Happy Karaoke Funtime'd me you did I didn't no I did not

invite no what happened for Happy Karaoke Funtime I can You did. No, I did not invite. No, what happened for Happy Karaoke Fun Time, I can't believe we're talking about this. What happened with Happy Karaoke Fun Time was that Matt and I were asked, were invited to join. Explain the premise of the musical theater. So musical improv,

it's what it sounds like. You know, sometimes, typically you have a pianist or a musician on the side of the stage kind of like playing like a random chord progression and then people in the scene will have to. But this show was different. This show was

at any random chord progression and then typically musicians will, the improvisers will improvise the melody, the verse, the chorus, whatever. For this it was just like karaoke tracks to already established songs.

So you were doing like pop songs. So you were doing like parodies. And then you had to like memorize, you were doing parodies. Classically my favorite form of comedy. The highest form. Take the song and make it a little bit different. Make it funny.

And I gotta tell you, when I walked into SNL, I was like, fucking parodies. Like the parodies I have to my name. The parodies and puns. You just get to that point when you're at SNL where you're just like you start and you're being like I hate puns like the only observation behind like word humor

word play is that like words sound like other words and I'm like an observation and then like cut to you being like what rhymes with Trump. Pump! Girl pump. Girl pump. It's actually rule of culture number 33 pump rhymes

with trump now this so on a technical level I don't think you've done that many parodies is that true murder dirter is a parody

no I'm saying song parody no you really haven't those are always original songs you guys write I feel like the show overall

doesn't even do them can I say one thing I think there's something to like when so sort of what we were really doing feel like the show overall doesn't even do them can i say one thing i think there's something too like when so so sort of what we were really doing was like me me musical theater improv it was so it was well it was that um we had to learn the the like let it go we would have like five songs remember what it was it was like five songs would be in rotation and we would have to learn them like i didn't like let's say I didn't know Sweet Child of Mine.

Right. I would be like, I guess I got to learn the melody. And that was an element that made it even more difficult than traditional. It was hard. So what happened was we were summarily asked to leave after two rehearsals in one show. And that was it.

Do you want me to give you a word? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Ask for it okay okay so we are we are two younger two younger

and we need we need all we need is a word no do you remember when we did do improv as Grey's Anatomy drag wait no

before we before we do this scene oh my god Bowen and I have to confess to something we one time did well I asked you I have to confess to something. We one time did... Well, I asked you, I was booked for Josh and Aaron's show,

a gay show for all people to do plucks. I was scared out of my mind. I did not prepare anything for the show. I asked you the day before, Matt, you have to help me out. And I was in a creative loop. I like did not know what to do with myself. And I was just like,

Matt, let's just, I'm going to, let's go to the Story Pirates closet, get some lab coats and some wigs and let's just do Grey's Anatomy drag. We bombed so hard. It was really awful. Like it was like, because this, it was going to

be, Bowen and I were coming out as I think, Meredith and Christina, but I looked more like Izzy. So like the thing is we were set, we're Meredith and Christina, but it was so clearly more like Izzy is the thing so like the thing is we said we're Meredith and Christina but it was so clearly Izzy so already the bit was like could have been a model

yeah that's really what happened the wig was so blonde so already the bit was weird sometimes people don't want to laugh at beautiful people because people were like that's Izzy because you're too hot

they're not going to laugh at you I was like too like Katherine Heigl and so I was obviously crying out too I was an incredible crier like doing carrying down I cut Danny Ducat's all that.

I'd write that. I did. I did. I didn't know what help meant. So then, I thought I was a surgeon, but I can't. I thought I was a surgeon, but I'm not. So I quit. Izzy.

Izzy. Well, I guess that puts an end to the evening. Meredith. Meredith. Pompeo face. What an incredible finale. It's a front runner for a lot of awards.

It really is, Bo. And actually, I think that we have to talk about potentially chasing cars the song, getting the WandaVision award for television. Absolutely. Oh my God.

It's a serious front runner. Great campaigning for that category has been I Love Lucy in the grape stomping. Yes. You know, that's a good one.

Really good one. Anyway, we're re-reading off topic. We fully bombed. We bombed Grey's Anatomy, Drag Improv. We bombed it Happy Karaoke Fun Time,

but can we get a suggestion for a word? Yeah, from our storied improv career, let's do it. I can't believe this. Shonda. Okay.

Okay. Shonda's got a smile That it seems to me Reminds me of year of Yes How to get away with murder And Bridgerton anal sex Was there

Go She wrote a book about saying yes Because she said yes many times. That's how she got a busy schedule. Never sees her family. That was as funny as it ever could have been. It couldn't. And then literally.

I'm saying the shows themselves. That was the lowest feeling on the comedy. Yeah. Did you guys write that? Because it feels written? Because it feels like you guys wrote it. Wait, the joke. Did we just fucking slay. Yeah. Did you guys write that? Because it feels written? Because it feels like you guys wrote it. Wait,

did we just fucking slay? Yeah, I feel like it was so good that I thought you guys wrote it and I actually think that this was so good that it was written and SNL is so good

that they have to be improvising. Oh my God. That's clearly what it is. I'm always like wondering how do they get so funny? It must be just because they get a lot of funny people together to just sort of mess around.

Aren't you guys just like messing around? Is your work just like, you guys messing around? That is some of it. Wait, we have to say, we were at dinner the other night and the waiter pitched us a sketch. Oh, no.

No, I'm sorry, but we have to say it. And it was, don't pitch a sketch. You guys, come on, don't pitch a sketch. It was hard. And I think he learned a valuable lesson that night.

I don't think he did. I think he might have because the embarrassment was so palpable. I felt terrible, but I also didn't feel bad for setting that boundary. Because I will say that this was like a young man that I, a young confident man that I wanted to teach like, I wanted to teach like a mother. You know what I mean? You wanted to care for him. I really wanted to like explain to him like,

I totally know where you're coming from. And this is the way to do it. And I'm going to tell you the way to do it, but it wasn't like appropriate. No. And then at the end, I panicked. And he said, can I pitch you guys a sketch? And I went like this.

Please don't. And we did all laugh because it was funny. And I honestly, I was shook because when he asked the question, I was like, oh, my God, I'm assessing myself right now in the situation. And I know I'm going to like be like, yeah. And you being like like please don't and it being a funny moment i thought was the perfect way to handle that because we didn't have to hear it and we tipped him big i told him i told him please don't let us tip you first yes yes let us tip you first and then you know we'll all have a good night or something like that and then i told him later that you know oh you can't tell us because even if it's good, we can't use it because we'll get sued.

Yeah, you'll sue us. Which is true. Which is so true. But I did, you know, it's just a lose-lose. Like, there's no good way to get it. And I totally get it because I was young and I saw Nora Ephron eating in a pan quotidian. And I thought, like, this is my moment. She's going to see me writing in a notebook and be like, hey, what are you writing?

I'm engaging. You know, like, hey, I want to know what she. What's this girl about? What's she writing? She's wearing Uggs that her mom got to Target and they're not Uggs. They're Koopa Cobras or whatever. Let's talk to this writer. You know, and I thought I really thought that.

Now, I wasn't like a young man and so I didn't walk up to her in that moment and be like, I'm a writer too. But there is just something. I was talking about this with Julio last night.

He was talking about how his first year moving to New York volunteered at the Tribeca Film Festival to watch films because he was like, and then he thought, because he genuinely thought at the time

if I do a good job maybe they'll ask me to submit a movie. Yeah. The Cinderella story. Yes, of course. And then I was like this is for me

like high school, middle school. I'm going to go into Hollister and fold up some of the clothes that are like unfolded and maybe they'll ask me to work there. Totally.

Totally. Where does that come from? I don't know. Somebody, there has to be something in like media or something like our parents told us

that was like that happens or are you just like a fucking young idiot? I don't know. I think he was just, this guy was just young the other night. I think he was also like,

you know, maybe, maybe like, I think he genuinely thought he had a funny sketch on his hands. He probably did. And you know what?

Maybe this is the crazy part. Is that had Nora Ephron come up to you, she would have discovered that you were one of the most talented writers that is in the world. And so maybe what we fucked up about is that we were talking to the next Lorne. Well, this is what I think is like the fantasy. I've thought about

this a lot because not to be a bitch, but I've been in summer. This is summer of cunt. I know. Don't be a bitch, be a cunt. I'm gonna get cunt. We're not saying not to be when it's summer of cunt. No, no, no. Right. That's the thing. Exactly. Charizard. Well, okay. So I've had a lot of experiences where you walk into a room full of,

very lucky to have these experiences, that you walk into a room full of like your heroes. Yes. Like the ultimate. We're so lucky. And there is this fantasy that I have, and I think a lot of people have, where it's like when you are to meet, like,

one time I was, walked into a room, and it was Martin Short and Catherine O'Hara. Wow. And then who is, God, I can't believe I'm forgetting her name. She's also a Second City, Canada person. Andrea Martin. Not Andrea Martin. City, Canada person. Andrea Martin. Not Andrea Martin. No, Andrea Martin. Andrea Martin.

Andrea. God, I'm so annoyed. I forgot her name. Anyway, so I was working with Maya and Marty and I had to give like Marty a new script or something like that.

And I was like, somebody told me like he's in there with Catherine O'Hara and Andrea Martin. And I was like, oh my God. And I was like, can I God. And I was like,

can I go in? And they're like, yeah, go in, just whatever. So I like go in to like put my little script, completely interrupt their conversation, but also like whatever.

It's my job. Yeah. And I'm like, um, Marty. And I tell my little thing and then I just like stand there with like a big smile. And then I'm like,

you walk out the door. And, and the thing is, is that that's what it is that's actually every single interaction like that. Wait what do you mean like at the end like you stood there. I stood there for a beat I smiled. And then you left. And then I left

and in your in my brain I always have the fantasy of like oh if I were to be at like the ultimate dinner table of like everybody I've ever looked up to and this is the fantasy is that you sit down and they all go, Oh, Sudi,

have you met Sudi? Kevin O'Hara. This is Sudi. And I love her. And she's brilliant. And she's the funniest person I've ever met. And actually, and actually she's the next you.

And you should love her. Like she's your daughter. And Sudi, would you like to eat and drink whatever we're daughter and um sudi would you like to eat and drink whatever we're eating and drinking and would you like to tell the story and we'll all laugh and listen but guess what it actually is you walk in you give them the piece of paper you smile and you leave i love that but and and if they and if they say cute pants then you take that home and you never forget. Yeah. Right.

I think that this fantasy is still maybe like incoming for you though, perhaps. I have definitely had moments where like I've been like pinch me. Like I can't believe like this person I look up to is saying something nice to me. I've definitely had those pinch me moments. But the thing is, is when you're a room of,

when you're in a room of greats, babe, you don't register and that's fine. And you know what you gotta do? You gotta find your own room full of greats and um, bitch, that's where I am right now. And I'm including Walter. Walter, I'm including you in your floral top.

Where did you get it? Banana Republic. One of the great stores. Sure, sure. Definitely in competition with us. We're Bonobo's spokesmodels. I don't know if you've been on 5th Avenue and 20th. Check it out, Walter.

You might like what you see. Like I do right now. Anyway, floating away from that, to say I think that for me, like that happens, and this is not to like plug but the q and q q force is coming out and for me like when we were sitting when i before pandemic when sean hayes would come in now i like i'm sort of you know we're friends we text whenever i like have him reach out to me i'm like this is this is a man that's iconically funny. It's just like, and talk about being one of the very first

truly gay men on television playing a gay character. Now that I have a relationship with him, that is a pinch me. I would say that Sean Hayes is low-key one of my great comedic influences because I was so obsessed with Will and Grace growing up. And it truly was like I remember watching like that Thursday night lineup my dad would always watch Thursday night and like it was friends into Will and Grace

it was like friends into Will and Grace into Frasier or something like that I think friends was first because Will and Grace was definitely a step up in terms of it's going to be a little later than that yeah yeah yeah for sure I believe it was on a 93030, but I could be lying. But like Will and Grace was our favorite out of that lineup.

And I have so many, so much of his timing is just like burned into my brain. Like there's this one part where like later in the season, Debra Messing is with Harry Connick Jr. And he comes back from like Cambodia or something where he was that he was like doing Doctors Without Borders. And he shows up with like this woman that he's been sharing like a tent with, like this like hot woman,

female doctor. Whole episode, Sean Hayes, AKA Jack goes, I would die. I would die. I would die. Oh my God.

Oh my God. I would die. A would die. Oh my God. Oh my God. True. I would die. A radical show for its time. I know it's like we say that now and it's like,

oh, ha ha. It was edgy. It was edgy. My favorite Jack moment is he's wearing this apron and then I think Debra Mousen goes and then it says,

kiss the cook on it. She goes, kiss the cook. And then he goes, he looks down at it and goes, oh. And then like, the audience loses it. She goes, kiss the cook. And then he goes, he looks down at it and goes, oh. And then like,

the audience loses it. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. And then the audience is going crazy for like 20 seconds. Truly,

I mean, I do love that. I miss that. Not to be like, we need to go back to before. But like, what I liked with WandaVision was, it reminded me

of the live performance aspect of the sitcoms. Yes. Like, the way Catherine Hara killed those first, that first episode, the way she was like,

her choreo and her comedy, like, traveling and- Catherine Han. Oh, yeah, yeah. Catherine Han. What did I say?

Catherine Hara. And I was like, who's this new girl? No, no, no. My God, please. Catherine Ohan. Catherine Ohan. Sorry,

that wasn't me. I'm sorry. No, but honey, when you need to be corrected, you should be. It Ohan. Catherine Ohan. Sorry, that wasn't me. I'm sorry. No, but honey, when you need to be corrected, you should be. It's actually really culture number four. When you need to be corrected,

you should be. My mother. My mother. Honestly, Netta Green. Netta Green. That's actually, you know, that would be part

of your housewife's conflict. Like your mom is like, you know, that mom. Well, the thing about my mom is that she's very correct but she's kind of always right yes that's the thing yeah when you need to be corrected

you should be yeah like what I was saying was like the Catherine hot of it all like that's a type of performance now that you know you never get to audition like honestly like thank God that like we got that role paired with that person in that type of acting environment

because he was so incredible at it. He's an unbelievable physical comedian. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Like crazy. Sean.

Sean. Sean. Sean. Gotta come on. Can I say? Yeah. Yes. You must.

You must. I talked to him about it. Oh my God. That'd be great. Because I was just going to bring it up. This is my like, ethnic analog, almost,

but not really. The first time I met BD, the first time I worked with BD on the pilot for Nora, I was fully a fan. I was just like, can we take a picture together? And he kind of was like, sure.

Like at that time. No, he wasn't. He was like, probably so psyched. He was just like, no, I think he would cop to this. He was just like,

yeah, yeah. Well, he's a very like, he's a very sedate guy. He's very sedate. And he was just like, no, I think he would cop to this. He was just like, yeah, yeah. Well, he's a very like, he's a very sedate guy. He's very sedate. He was just like, at that time, I was just like some like,

to him, I was just like some, some dude. Yeah. Like I, like I hadn't, I hadn't gotten hired at Estenelia and I think he just like didn't.

And now he's just like, maybe he like sends me like every kind of cheerleading message every week. You were his waiter in the restaurant pitching a sketch. He did not know who you were.

And we didn't know who that young girl was. If this waiter asked for a picture, I've been like, sure, even though that's unprofessional. At the restaurant, yeah. I've been like,

yeah, sure. Sketch pitching was, you know, that wasn't. I don't want to talk about him too much. No, no, I feel bad. I feel bad. No, no, no, don't feel bad.

No, we're done talking about her. We're done. We're talking about the impact of Will and Grace on television and how we watched television and Sean Hayes' abilities as a physical comedian. And now we've sort of expressed that sentiment. Thank you. Thank you. And BD Wong basically didn't know he was speaking to Jesus at the time. Yes.

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Do the thing. Check in about everyone's Summer of Cunt. You know, there was a glimmer of us. I feel like there was the glimmer of real potential of Summer of Cunt there for a hot second. That's what we're all going through. I know. God. Okay, should I go first?

Go first. Okay, well. What's going on with me? I'm famously moving to LA. Wow! So this is a rebirth moment. It's huge. Sudi has sort of shed the skin of SNL.

The cocoon of SNL has been sort of cast off. Thank you, cocoon. Thank you, Chrysalis. Thank you, Chrysalis. Thank you, Chrysalis the cocoon of SNL has been sort of cast off. Thank you, cocoon. Thank you, Chrysalis. Thank you, Chrysalis. Cocoon. Yeah, I guess Chrysalis, right? I know, it's so crazy. I don't work there anymore. But I do

feel like spiritually, I always will. It's very fucked up. It is so, in many ways, who I am. The fact that I worked there. Like, it just was my entire life, really. And, like, it's also, like, a huge part of my identity in a weird way where it's, like, I, you know, know. You take the good with the bad i think and like plenty of both

yeah and now i'm in a place where i'm like i'm glad i don't work there anymore but i do miss it and know that i will miss it like i'm like scared of like the first ep back i I don't know if I'll watch, but I want to watch, but I don't know if I will. You just make the call like on the day. Beep, beep, beep. And then I'm like, ah. Yeah, I think that you'll find your boundary with it once you see how

you feel watching it. And also it might be different every week. I know. I have talked to people who are like, I don't watch the episodes, but I watch clips that I hear about. But it's also like, I don't know. I want to see what people are doing, but

it's so loaded. It's incredibly loaded. Because I want to see my friends be funny. This is the thing. It's like, anybody who works in, let's say, who was I talking to recently? But it's anybody like, let's say, who was I talking to recently? I mean, but it's anybody like, let's just generalize within our own world.

It's like anybody who works in TV goes home and they want to not watch production. And so they watch Housewives. It's that thing. And so for you, maybe it's like, you probably will just be so, you'll have this incredibly immense top layer of like awareness of like what went into what you're looking at at any given moment and that just

feels like not pleasant i think what i'll miss is the feeling of in the moment knowing that you can do it like that that took me a while to get there but i do feel like in my last like three years i would have moments where i was running around and really busy but knowing that i could handle what was happening and that really felt like a superpower in a way it felt like like one time i love echo for this i think this was like one of like the first i think this was her first year where i was like we didn't really know each other that well yet but then i was like i love this bitch because she was like you know it's her first year she's not in the show like a ton you know what i mean she was the first she only knew castman like so

she felt a crushing sense of loneliness i won't speak on her behalf, but I feel like that's what her experience was. I'm so sorry. I keep going. Well, everybody's first year is crushing. Not to diminish, but I'm just like, everybody's first year. That is how you could describe everybody's first year.

Yes, yes, yes. No, but this is like, she had a light show and she had gone to a store and she had come in, which is like totally fine to do it was like you have a huge block no i don't want to say the store okay i don't want to say the store that's not that's not the store i just i just said a name um and she had come in holding shopping she was like saw me me knocking on a door.

I think I was talking. I forget who I was talking to. Maybe it was Sudeikis. And she was like, hi. And I was like, hi. And then I go to knock the door. She goes, okay, she's working.

Okay, she's a woman at work. And I felt so seen because that is how I felt. I felt a little bit like, okay, I'm being a boss right now. And then she saw me and I was like, oh, like she's like recognizing this in this moment. And like it meant a lot to be seen by another woman in that moment when you're about to knock on the door and you're holding your papers. And like, you know, you're about to this is a lot of this summer of kind.

I wanted to talk about going into rooms and handing out papers because I think that's something that we haven't really gone to. I love that. But I just felt like really seen by her in that moment. I love Echo. I mean, she literally is stunning inside and out. God. What a star. Godlike.

Can I say something? The reason, I don't know if this feels too obvious or if it goes without saying but the reason I think your identity might feel wrapped up in that job is because you were so good at it and I feel like we were saying earlier

you can generalize, what's universal about working there is that in your first year you feel a crushing when you arrive you feel this crushing sense of loneliness everyone's reasons for leaving are so, so, so specific. And there is no universal thing that like thematically ties them all together. And so for you to leave and for you to feel this way, even after you've like,

even as you're about to embark on this new chapter in your life, you are leaving in this way that is like bizarre because you're like you could still do you could do that job for ever yeah that's what's scary about it you could have been a lifer and i'm actually so glad you this is not to like disparage anybody who's done that or or i just think for you that is not well i wanted, I wanted to be. I wanted to be. I wanted to be Paula Pell. I wanted to be. And I think that I really, you know,

had people respected me at that show and eventually, and I feel like I really earned respect, but I kind of realized at a certain point that I was like never going to be like beloved by certain people I was never gonna be uh anybody's little darling you know what I mean and I was always gonna be a worker and honestly that um energy not that I need to be like praised or coddled or anything but just feeling like i wasn't

i was never going to be um cared for not cared for respected maybe but not cared for and many people at the show are very cared for and being in that position it just made me feel like i am not getting out of what i'm putting i don't i'm not getting out what i'm putting in yeah yeah and what i was getting out was incredible things getting to make stupid shit with my friends that cost a lot of money to make and they let me make it like that was like the end all be all but it was too hard yeah it just gets too hard it doesn't have to be and I think that's what I'm

excited about for you most of all is the work life balance is going to rock your world I already feel it we literally like when Sudi came to LA like it was kind of funny I did predict that she would find a place very quickly. Day one, you went out and saw five places.

It's like a little tiny little house. It's so cute. It's an apartment, but it feels home-ish. It's like a half a duplex. Yeah, it's really, really cute. Just being in there and walking around and planning where things were going to go. I was just like, this is a new beginning. That's the thing.

We all as people, and I think this can apply to anyone in any career you can stay at a job and love it but you need to be able to create new beginnings for yourself at your place of work you need to be able to in any environment make make it exciting for you and challenging for you and also grow into a place where you're comfortable there. Change or die. I don't know. I've always had these moments in my life where I feel like it's time to leave. Move on. Like I have this image of like, you know, you're standing on this precipice and it's time to jump and fly.

Yeah. And you might eat shit, but like that's okay too because I've eaten plenty of shit. And I have had, and it kind of does end up happening like I think every like about like six years. Isn't that like what like scientifically it is too? Like every seven years that that's like a new cycle of like expertise or of like. Yeah. Like you just kind of like, you hit a wall. Yeah. Dorinda says six years.

Dorinda. Dorinda. Dorinda Medley. And she's a scientist. In a recent interview, she literally said, for some reason, every six years. Dorinda. Dorinda Medley. And she's a scientist. In a recent interview, she literally said, for some reason, every six years, I do have, there's a change. There's a change.

That's a good Dorinda. You know, maybe I'll go back, maybe I won't. It's really not up to me, but I'm happy. Yeah, that's so good. I'm happy. Your impressions are really in the pocket when it comes to housewives. Yeah. Because it's there. I am Zen Wen.

I am Zen Wen. I am Zen Wen. You are not going to tell me. You are dismissed. You are dismissed. TikTok me ya. I have time today. I do have to say,

I'm one of the most excited people in the world to watch Potomac tonight. Yeah. Because we're all going to watch Potomac tonight and let's celebrate that. Let's celebrate that. Let's celebrate that. Let's celebrate how lucky we are.

And then White Lotus. Oh, the finale. It's the finale. I will watch the premiere. I'll watch the finale. Honestly, I don't think I feel like your energy around it has been like

you're not really wanting to watch it so you can watch the finale. Yeah. Oh, I'm fine with it. I'll find out who's in the damn box. No, it's too good, Bowen.

I won't allow it. It literally is so good. You gotta watch box. No, it's too good, Bowen. I won't allow it. It literally is so good. You gotta watch it from the beginning whenever you want, on your own time. No rush. I've watched the premiere. I'll watch the boat episode,

which I heard was fully improvised. I love that. It's a Jennifer Coolidge moment. You gotta watch the whole thing. Okay, okay. Whenever you have a chance. I still haven't watched WandaVision yet. Oh my God.

I watched the first episode like three months ago. Well, we have an award dedicated to it. You won't be winning it. I'm not keeping up with everything you two are doing every second of the day. I love that you were like, well, we have an award about it. Like what? You didn't listen to the 100 nominees?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I double tap. Categories? I barely comment because you know I love you. And I don't need to know every detail. You don't need to listen because you're so present in the episodes. You're so present in the episodes.

My sister always tells me, she's like, yeah, they were talking about you. I know that's nice. I love. No, I love it. I love attention. Love attention. Wait, should we go back to six years? Or should we do Housewives? We've got a lot of branching I just I don't want to ask you so six years SNL's done yes what are you doing now um I'm in the I love this for you room

get a hold of that readers um it's so fabulous um I love this You, the show that Matt Rogers is going to be a series damn regular on. Wow. Vanessa Bayer created. Vanessa Bayer, Jeremy Byler created. Created. Say their name. Vanessa Bayer,

Jeremy Byler. That's actually a great duo. Such a good duo. Very good. Jeremy Byler. It's actually a very full circle moment. First of all,

because I'm writing for my baby, which is very important. And also, Vanessa and Jeremy were kind to me in my first year of SNL, my crushing loneliness. I remember when you said that. They were kind to me in a way that they did not have to be and literally saved my experience there. There was like such a dark moment my first year at SNL where I forget what had happened.

I had like done another schedule I thought was good and then it didn't go. And I just felt like I was giving my best and I like wasn't getting anything on. And I was so distracted and depressed walking to work that I walked into the street by my house

and a car almost hit me because I wasn't paying attention and I was walking in the subway and then I thought this is how it happens like this is how like things like this happens like you're distracted you're like so sad and like then like you just get fucking hit by a car and then I remember it was like oh I was going into a writer's night and then that day Vanessa texted me and was like hey we're talking about this thing would you come in and like pitch on it or whatever and i remember sitting in her little office which was then my office and sitting on her couch and being like oh my god i'm in vanessa

bayer's couch and like pitching on like some commercial i think it was like this lint chocolate truffle thing that they like put to the table a couple times that was so funny and it was like this Lindt chocolate truffle thing that they like put to the table a couple of times. It was so funny. And it was like just Vanessa being like Lindor chocolatier. She like falls in love with this Lindt chocolatier. It was very funny. And then they would just so kindly reach out to me because like they knew. I don't know. You know, they just wanted me in the room to pitch.

And I just couldn't. I couldn't believe it. And so the fact that their show is what I'm working on right out of SNL with the sister here with Miss Rogers it's just too good it's such perfect perfect

one time Sudi I was texting her a lot like when she was first got the job just to check in on her and I remember at some point in the middle of the year like you said that Vanessa told you like I just want you to know you can talk to me about stuff and I just always

remembered that like I always remembered that Vanessa said that to her she was the first cast member that ever said like and you know I get that it's hard here sometimes and you can talk to me about that stuff which is so she did that she did that I never forgot that and she didn't have to do that. And you would still cite Jeremy

as like, you were like, you've always talked to me about like- She taught me so much. Yeah, you worked together a lot. You guys were on Mario and Marty together too. Yeah.

Like you brought up Jeremy a lot in my first year working there as a writer where you were like, you'll get it. And like, you know, you just like, you'll learn from the people

who work here. Like my first year was Jeremy Beiler like showing me the ropes and I was like, oh, that's so, that's so generous. I mean, year was Jeremy Beiler like showing me the ropes and I was like, oh, that's so generous. I mean, it wasn't even like showing you the rope. It's so, the way that that show works,

and I think this is actually a way that a lot of things work, which is like people when you're like on a job, people don't sit you down and show you things. And if they do, it's maybe for like a day for like an hour right like really the best thing is to be a sponge and i just feel like i was watching jeremy being like this is too long we want to land on this let's cut this well we're at the bottom of page two like

and then maybe like logging all of this shit um god what a man you know it's i i just remember like it's so it's it makes such a positive impact when someone's new someplace to reach out to them and just be like just offer kindness like i remember what this is like i it's i weirdly think they are comparable like when i would start a new restaurant i would never feel so anxious than i did on those days like when you walk into a new restaurant and like you don't know where anything is and like someone's training you. You have to ask everything. I just remember like

and you want to be cool and because also it's about like socially fitting in because that's a whole other part of it like where you go when you go to any new job

and I just remember like the people who trained me when I was working in places like and now in my professional life as well when people are nice it means everything. And that's why like like we were saying like we always say like just be being like a positive um person in the workplace be the light

be the light be the light be the light because like be the light even just not getting angry at someone they don't know where something is or how to do something like because i get like environments can be stressful now I'm thinking about every time I didn't do what we were talking about. Well, you know what happens. You're not always held to that, Stan. I mean, like, it's hard to always do. It can be so hard.

Because everybody's also always going through their own shit. That's the other thing too, which is why it like means so much when somebody is like, you know, going through a stressful time and then they do take that time to like. Yeah.

But it's not realistic to expect that everybody be the light always that is also not I'm just saying it's nice when that person is there like and also like when you can when you find yourself in a situation where you can be that person even if it's a little exhausting sometimes

it's nice to give that extra effort just because I genuinely feel those things get paid back. You know what I mean? I'll never have a bad thought about someone who was kind to me when I was anxious. You know what I mean? We're good going forward. That's why we see with Potomac,

Wendy's not being warm to Mia. And that's used as a tone. Because Karen sort of did that with her. Is that what you're saying? I mean, we've seen Wendy be hazed. And you see the hazing happening with Giselle and Robin as well. I mean, with Miss Mia. With Miss Mia.

And they better not come for a scala. Hold on. Before we talk about Potomac, I just want to also say... Didn't mean to... I was literally just for a moment checking in about Potomac. I want to talk about Potomac, but I just want to say

there have been moments, and I've pointed this out to these people, to Sudi and Matt, but I just am so warmed, heart warmed, by watching you two talk about this show and how excited you both are for it. It's going to be so good.

When she said that she was going to meet on it, I was like, oh, my God. Every bone in my body was like, please, please, please, please, please. And now that it's happening, I'm just like, I feel it's going to be such an amazing next step for you. Like, I just think, like, that tone I love for you. Well, I'm just excited to be in a room, like, where I really feel like everybody is really good.

And then I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, I actually have to really show up every day because that's like where the bar is. And I like- That's great. That's a new planet. And that's literally all you can ask for. And when I was leaving SNL

and I was thinking about what I want and I was like, you know, okay, well, I'm going to work on my own stuff. But but like you know what what about like you know rooms like do I want to go like straight into a room or whatever and I was kind of like veering towards like let's not jump right into a job and then I thought if it's people that I know are amazing and I like and my friends and also like people that I know that i can learn from yeah and that's why i told my wife so i was like i really want this job yeah i really want this job and then i feel really lucky to be there and jesse klein oh yeah is show running and i'm such a huge

fan of hers and if people haven't read her book Her book is incredible Her book is so good It's like one of the best comedy memoirs I've ever read Also I feel like she gets very real and honest in it in a way that I feel like a lot of times those comedy memoirs it's very surface level because they just like got the book deal but it's like she has

this incredible essay about like being at the Emmys and for Inside Amy Schumer and like having to pump it's just like so fucking incredible anyway i also want to say like ultimately the lifestyle shift is going to be very important for you yeah and i love that and i also want to say and we have to say when this happens she found her hair she found her oh my. She found her hair. She found her... Oh my God. Thank you so much. She found her hair

and there's really no... I mean, there's no need to really to believe this. Maybe in six years. No. I am going to have this hair. I'm going to be like Lisa Rinna.

I'm going to have this hair when I'm 60 years old. I'm never getting rid of it. This is the hair. That's the hair. It is the hair and I feel like I can say that because I'm talking about my hair and this shag this Ella Emhoff

thing that I'm doing a fair cop is Sandra Oh I think a fair cop is Sandra Oh and I think on certain days depending on where it lays it's a little genzy Ella Emhoff when I'm feeling young but I don't care if it goes out of style depending on where it lays, it's a little Gen Z L.A. I'm off when I'm feeling young. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know,

it's gonna, I don't care if it goes out of style. I think I have to do- This is a classic haircut that will not go out of style. I think I have to do curly bangs because I think I have a gigantic forehead

and a huge head, honestly, a huge head. You do not. No, I really do and I think that bangs are really a game changer. And so many hairdressers in my life told me that you can't have curly bangs. And then my hairdresser, who is a queen, Michelle at Headdress.

Love Michelle as a hairdresser's name. It's amazing. Okay, but don't go and get my exact haircut. Please get creative. Because I have to gas up Michelle because she is an artist and I want her to have all the clients and all the money. But also, I know some

people who have gone and kind of gotten my haircut. So don't do that. But get a good haircut from Michelle because she can do a lot of things. We love Michelle. And you can get my haircut but make it your own, bitch. Do something. Don't tell me you went we love Michelle and you can get my haircut but make it your own bitch yeah like do something yeah also don't

don't tell me you went to my hairdresser and show up with my exact hair it's like do that but be at least hide it

go on your own journey like you found that organically that's so fucked up because just because you found it organically fucking Danny Ray told me about it

because Jodi the SNL hair queen told me to go everybody yeah yeah well it's a team effort but what's important is that you landed like yeah and you landed in a place where you found your hair and if you got my haircut you know who you are yeah oh my god now can I just really quickly um just I also want to add as an addendum, add as an addendum redundant, but, uh, the,

the, the beautiful thing to me is like in terms of this triangle, like it's the first time in a while, I would say that I've seen you to like connect over. Like Matt's listened to you and me, Suti talk about SNL fucking for years. And it's probably like, he's probably like,

he's, you, you, you've always listened. You've always been there and supportive I'm like I'm sure he's sick of hearing us talk about this Sudi's listened to me and Matt talk about podcast shit for

however long too it's like this is the perfect way to like complete the triangle we had many years of working very closely together there was like a black box period but I also and you know I think honestly, if I was to be totally honest, when you guys both start,

the blow was less than with you but I knew what to expect because when you did start working at that job and it is so demanding, I told myself, oh, but we'll still be able to keep up this level of working together but that was just not a possibility.

It's tragic. In a way, it's definitely like, it's not tragic because ultimately, what I ultimately told myself was this is going to benefit everyone in the orbit creatively at some point and you're willing to, when you are doing this career and you really

mean it and you really know you can do it, that's actually an investment in the future and it's like you have to invest in your community around you which is why it's like been said a million times but truly a rising tide does lift all ships and i think if there's anything there's a little thing in your head that has an insecurity the little voice in the back of your head says oh well you won't be able to keep up with that but like and and what's so nice about what you're saying about meeting here is it's like it is validating you know what i mean like the fact that we get to do this now and work on the same project is like very cool and we're very fortunate

it is a dream and we are lucky as hell and one of the three of us gonna make a little show together and i'm gonna just pitch something. Okay? Happy karaoke fun time. Well, just so you know, we are bad. On HBO Max. It's gonna be the first bad show. It'll be the first bad show. It'll be the first bad show.

It'll be the first bad show to be good. And I hope the budget is big. Oh, my God. A big budget. Have you guys watched Fuckboy Island? I've not. With Nikki. With Nikki Glaser. She looks so funny on it.

I have not watched a second of it and I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that it's called Fuckboy Island. And that it feels like 30 Rock.

And it literally feels like a 30 Rock joke. So FYI, well, I just know that HBO Max is going in the direction of where all reality is going where they really like it to be arced.

Like they love like narratives. And I'm like, that's so funny that like there's a television show called Fuckboy Island that I could invest in. I could invest in. What do you mean? Like the fact that it's called Fuckboy Island and it could be something I watch week to week. Where you're like, oh, you're tracking stories. Yeah. And you're tracking a story on a show called Fuckboy Island.

But isn't that all dating shows? Yeah, but not when it's abjectly as much as funny as Fuckboy Island. That literally is a 30 Rock joke. And it started with some of the Quibi shows when they were like, these sound like 30 Rock jokes. I'm like, Mama, look on television. It's Fuckboy Island. Everything's a 30 Rock joke at this point.

We're leaning in. We're leaning in. We're leaning into 30 Rock being reality. President Trump. Death to all of them. What rhymes with at this point. We're leaning in. We're leaning in. We're leaning into 30 Rock being reality. I mean. President Trump. Death to all of them. What rhymes with Trump? I'm blinking.

Pump, I think. No. I don't remember. Dump. Huge. I think that's it. Wait, there's something there. Like he's got a big fat booty

like a rump. Oh my God, yeah. Rump is good. Hey, Trump. Nice rump. You big old dump. I'm crying with laughter. You're crying laughing right now.

Readers, Bowen is crying. Am I allowed to say readers? Yes. That's what they are. Okay. Big things in the future. Matt, do you want to go next? Sure, I'll go next. You know, I am in New York shooting the film

Fire Island. And we are it's sort of funny, like very little of the time we've spent has felt like work. Like I think that your role is obviously larger than mine and like you have some like real work to do in the movie. Like there's like, you know, there's difficult material for you.

For me, I have just been having the best time. Like I've just been kind of doing my. I'm just doing my little thing. Later on in the shoot schedule, there's some stuff. You have some demands. As the Lydia. Famously Lydia. If you're portraying Lydia, you have some demands.

Absolutely, you have to be a dumb little slut. Dumb little slut. It's not that she's a slut. Lydia creates scandal in the Bennett household. I'm really, and you know, I've actually been thinking a lot about,

this is so funny, when we announced that it was happening, everyone was like, of course Matt is Lydia. What does that mean? Matt is the only Lydia. And it started to feel

like a drag for a second. I was like, okay, what are they saying exactly? When I read Pride and Prejudice, I was reading Jane Austen's words and reading Lydia's story and thinking,

this is Matt Rogers. Is this true? No. People are like... It's like a fucking Edwardian novel of like women working their way up the social ladder. But literally the response was like,

of course you are Lydia. And I'm like, all right, perfect. Like, I love it. And I have been like examining it and I do like, you know, you remember, I mean like Janeane austen you know she she is really she's a talented girl talented girl talented talented writer girl you know um but i really beautiful beautiful beautiful gorgeous girl smart funny gorgeous you know what happened to her what happened to her she got

married she had kids i think you know what she moved she to her? Did she get married? She had kids. I think she had kids. No, she moved. She moved. She moved and she got married and she had kids. And now I think, I want to say that she's like farming. Yeah. Yeah. You know?

But that's hard. Farming's hard. Well, she always wanted to farm. Yeah. Yeah. And she has help. Yeah. Well, that's the thing.

Then that's the thing. That's the thing. You know, you don't do it alone. No, no one does. At that level. No, it takes a village. But if you can pay for help, then it's fine. Like then. Yeah it alone no one does at that level it takes a village but if you can pay for help then it's fine

yeah Jane Austen can pay for help right you know real farmers right and how much is she farming really it's like you know

no Jane Austen is you know picking up the harvest and canning maybe a few peaches yeah like you know Paris Hilton isn't making her fragrances. Her name's on it.

Her name's on it. But yeah, exactly. Guess who's in the photos with the beets and the... Jane Austen. Yeah, Jane. She's really there to sell it, move product,

which is work. She looks great, though. Beautiful. She looks really good. Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. She got all Thera. Yeah. Beautiful girl.

Beautiful girl. Okay. So anyway, just like really enjoying getting to know the cast and like it's a really fun group of people and it's funny

that you said like the being in proximity to heroes thing before because Margaret Cho is fully in the movie and like it's such a like wild thing for the journey to go from

we were too afraid to ask her the question I know to now she's like now she's like a colleague she's a colleague and she's telling us great stories what do you mean you were too afraid to ask

her before? Well famously she was the only person that we did not ask the question of what was the culture that made you psychosophistic because we were so I don't think and it's not like this anymore. She was one of the first big names that you guys got. That was when we were really a baby podcast and we traveled up to go interview her and I remember it was one of

the most nerve wracking I've never seen you more nervous she was I mean I'm comfortable saying this even though it's like not necessarily hashtag cool but she was my comedic hero yeah I mean that is cool she taught me I know yeah I actually told her this when she was on the

podcast and I think she received it now I'm kind of just like hey girl but which is you know its own type of mind fuck but i when i listened to her stand-up albums when i was in middle school she taught me what my sense of humor was yeah like in a way it was like revealed to me i was like oh that's what i think is funny yeah that's what i want to hear more of like this type of queer comedy i had never heard before i didn't get the references like

one of my favorite joke runs ever was CC Blooms I mean like when she went into how there was a bar named after Bette Midler's character

in Beaches in San Francisco and how she said it was that was the gayest thing I have ever heard in my entire

life and just the audience dying and how you could feel her as a performer even just listening to it. It was just so brilliant. Chewing on each word. Truly, when I was at that age, I mean, this was when I was realizing

who I was in terms of I mean, in many ways, the culture that made me say culture was for me in a way. But now it's like we're doing a movie with her and we get to talk to her and like work with her and like you know there was a scene we did this dinner scene the other night and she was doing something

and but right before they called action she like looked over shook me in the eyes like she was mid telling me the story like in the setup before the shot and I was like I'm looking at Margaret doing a movie that's not part of what the summer is and also all summer like I mean y'all heard us

in an honest conversation I've been in New York a lot and I'm just trying to have fun and you know like really enjoy everything because I think after like who knows what's going on with you know the not to bring it up but Variant and everything but we've had like a really nice moment where we have all been able to have like some semblance of a social

life in a summer and getting to do all these fun things so it's been really nice and I'm trying to enjoy whatever you know is left of it and I'm trying to enjoy whatever you know is left of it and I'm also so happy because we really have been able to see so much more of each other and I really like being able to see you all the time and like us be able to be there for each other

like when we're laughing and also need someone to talk to it's really special and you know I really think we're so lucky to have that and so like we really are and then with you moving to Los Angeles like I know that we're going to spend so much more time together than we've have in such a long time truly why i'm moving i mean it is and it isn't i mean like it is though i i was thinking about this the other day when i'm with the two of you i feel like the most like myself than i ever am like it feels like family it feels also like i'm not thinking about a damn thing so you can like pack and watch potomac and be with us that's

the vibe exactly that's what we're doing tonight i'm going to be putting coats in suitcases and seeing what the hell Wendy has to say to Giselle at the same time we're ignoring Escala we're erasing Escala oh my god I love Escala my African sister who sort of has your hair does she go to your bar

your Michelle I'm sure that Escala and I go to the same hairdresser Escala is pulling some looks that are reminiscent of Taylor Swift Red Era 2012 I'm like that a Scala and I go to the same hairdresser. Yeah. A Scala is pulling some looks that are reminiscent of Taylor Swift, red era, 2012. I'm like, go for it.

I'm obsessed with the Scala. We are, we've talked about a Scala like more than probably we have Ashley. And Ashley is a main cast member and has going through a lot. She had a child. And we're talking about a Scala more because a Scala has the it factor. And when we, when we get to the point where all of a sudden we cut to a confessional

and it's Escala, I'm going to scream at the top of my lungs for joy. And it's going to be a meme. She deserves it. And I know if her stylist isn't an idiot, they need to give her a huge Christina Aguilera and Moulin Rouge wig. And it needs to be

truly a moment because what we have with Escala is potential and I want to see it played out. Escala is a star and she has personality. She's a star. Are apologies due? So does anyone want to apologize

for anything? Are apologies due? Again, I feel she's not thinking in that moment. It's like as if she's me with you two. It's like the same. That is just so, I think that's the power. That's why she's so impactful to me

is because it's like, oh, she's being very real. Literally. Star person. I can honestly see her as like a Kyle. Like somebody. No, it's going too far no no i'm with it i'm with it see her being like we're seeing she's the storyteller she's the one explaining the narrative to us she's like you think she's grounded she's the way she's grounded

she's very no i mean i i think that if she at the beginning right now she would be center couch because I think that Kyle is our way in she's telling me exactly she knows how far at this point she hasn't always known but Kyle knows how far to go

if you watch from season 1 Kyle is the protagonist of Beverly Hills and actually everything that happens on the show Kyle is the protagonist of beverly hills and actually everything that happens on the show kyle is the protagonist around her when erica is breaking down and her mascara is running we're with kyle yeah you know what i mean like kyle is the protagonist like erica is kyle's friend in the show now but they find a way to build now i cannot watch the show though without thinking about heidi and cecily's bit that you took down on the power where they sit down and Lisa's like, I love this couch. What is this? Is this pink?

Is this purple? Pink. Oh, my God, look at the whale. There's a little whale on the wall. Is that a whale? Oh, my God, that's a whale. Seafood. Ooh, I wonder what they got here. I'm hungry. Who's hungry? I know. Let's eat. If we're hungry, let's eat. I mean, what are we going to do? Not eat? We have to eat at some point. Look at this table. We eat on this table or over there on the couch? We could sit and eat. If we're hungry, let's eat. I mean, what are we going to do? Not eat? We have to eat at some point. We have a table.

We eat on this table or over there on the couch? We could sit and eat. So, Erica, is she going to go to jail? Oh, my God. Love that the Housewives discourse has creeped into the section for my culture because that really makes a lot of sense because it is the culture that I consume. But decompressors down. Yeah. That's what that show is um but uh yeah and other otherwise like in terms of life stuff like yeah super excited that you're coming and very excited and

and like feel very grateful that i get to be a part of very queer projects that i think are going to be fucking great like the way fire island is cast and the creative team on it and also q force is coming out and I'm really excited for that. Booked and busy. And I'm really excited for the new year to shoot the Vanessa show. So I'm feeling good. Good job, baby. And I have to say that you are

working your little butt off. You have such an incredible work ethic. You bring incredible energy to everything you do and he's an escala. I mean, Matt is a star. He's an undeniable star, natural star. Wow.

Yeah. Personality. Mr. Personality. Pure personality. Do you agree, Walter? Yeah. Okay. He goes, yeah, I think so.

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Bobisa, how are you? In terms of the summer of cunt this might be a summer that I I just I can't access the cunt unfortunately and that's okay I mean I've talked to you guys about this like offline

but I don't know like I just really have to like I have not had to genuinely like confront uh the way that i am comfortable with inferiority like my whole life i've been like that's where i've been that i've just i've been i'm used to it i'm used to feeling um bad about myself and i think this anything think working on this movie, which I'm so grateful for, but as the Jane,

she goes through probably... Would you guys say that Jane Bennett goes through the worst time in the book? Or maybe not? I would say that Jane is a character who honestly befalls great personal humiliation and hurt. And it's hard to put yourself in that spot when you're someone who struggles with, I guess, would you say self-esteem?

Yes. And that's basically what's going on. And Julio was pointing this out. He was like, this is a movie that um thematically is like testing a lot of different things in your life and the only thing that would have made it worse was if you know your character like had like

insane like if your character was put in conversion therapy that would be like so much more real and so much harder to separate that from like Bowen and um and your dear friend wrote it too so there's like and it's so

well written and Joel is very vivid so vivid and it's so it's so lived in and all those words around your tiffs but um it's I don't know do you feel inferior now?

Yeah. That is so crazy to me. I feel, I feel, and just, I know in context, it makes no sense. Cause like I've had a great summer.

Yeah. But a wonderful summer. And I'm like, I know this is like a moment where I should be like, gotta be grateful. You gotta like really just like drum that up at any given moment. But I'm like like something's happened in the last few weeks where I don't know what it is

um where I'm just like oh I just I yeah I don't know and I've had hard scenes so far where like literally Andrew On our director has like told me to like in this one scene

now you need to look in the mirror and just like really like ask yourself like am I ugly like truly like dig for that and I think it's like really fucked up and now I like now I understand what I

cause anytime I've heard actors say like I took it home with me I needed to shake the character off what all these things like what does that even mean whatever it's like easy you're reading words off the page okay Julianne Moore you know like truly I'm like what what is that but it's work

it is and I keep reminding I always feel so stupid when I'm reminding myself like oh right acting is hard you know anyway that's what makes it art though and I think that like what I I guess what I

maybe is a solution here emotionally. Not a solution but something useful is like to understand that because you have an understanding of that experience and because you have an identification with what the character goes through, what you're going to do is project that with a truth

to people who will feel seen by it in the book Jane wins and like and not to give spoilers about the movie but like you know what you're going to reflect back is really something very beautiful and touching and while it

may feel like you are personally like far from that like i think that like at least what you can know that like you're going to give like such a truth yeah don't be upset babe i'm sorry i'm sorry oh that's okay i'm sorry and sometimes i just feel like i've been getting so upset so often that it just feels like people are hiding me for it or like scolding me for it. No, but let me tell you something. There's a lot going on. And to hear you talk about it like the way that you talk about it, I think it must be

difficult to have everyone be like, you deserve all these things. You deserve all these things when inherently you don't believe it. And all I want you to do is believe it. That's all I ever want for you to do is just genuinely believe it and all i want you to do is believe it that's all i ever want for you to do is just genuinely believe it i i was i was believing it for a long time and you're you're talking about like oh like you've lived through this in your real life and i'm like and i thought i got away from it i thought i like i thought i i thought i was so past it and i was like look at me i'm like doing great i'm doing all these incredible things and all my dreams are coming true. And I'm like, oh, but wait, it's still there. No, no, baby.

It's okay. It's okay. It's fine. I'm sorry. No, don't apologize. Don't apologize. Because you know what? It's very real. And I want you to know that like it's okay to have like any emotion that you have.

And stop thinking about how everyone else is going to like receive it or take it. Guess what? You are living your life and all I want for you to do is and the thing is we're okay. I don't need to share but thank you. All I want you to do

is to know that I'm feeling for you so hard that it's hard right now but you will feel good again soon. We'll just fight through it. It's all going to be fine'm we are so here for you thank you girls i mean like i think that what you're saying about like i should be grateful and all this stuff which is like two things can be true no totally two things can be true you can have the perspective i mean we're sitting here

and we're like looking at what we get to do. And we're all like recognize how rare and lucky we are. But your day to day is still your day to day. It's a lot of pressure. And it's still, it's not even pressure. It's just like, I'm looking at like, you know, like the schedule and I'm like, I'm like putting in my account. I'm like, I'm like clerically doing a lot of work where I'm like, which I like to do. But I'm like, okay, I got to gotta so this thing will be on that day i should prepare this you know i'm like i'm doing a lot of like emotional logistics if that makes sense and that

is fucking weird i wonder how who can help with that i'm like oh no no it's not that like i need to like get help it's just that i'm like this is this is this is part of the work yeah and it's like my it's i'm thrilled and honored and i couldn't be luckier that I'm like, this is part of the work. And it's like, I'm thrilled and honored. And I couldn't be luckier that this is like the project that I get to do this on for the first time. Like in a long, like, you know, for a sustained period of time, I'm like playing, I'm inhabiting one person, whatever. No, but you're also doing this for the first time too. Like this kind of work. And so I feel like it is everything that you're going through and talking about seems very actually natural to me. And like, yeah, like what Matt was saying, which is like, just feel your feelings.

You don't have to judge the feeling. No, no, no. Totally. Totally. He literally said that last week. I just, you know, I guess and i know that you've been feeling this way and i i think sometimes like for me it's just like i just want to make it better for you and so sometimes i feel like i i sometimes do so much to try to make you happy and like i almost like try to force feed

joy onto you and i also want to tell you that I do validate how you're feeling and I want you to know if I ever project to you like, why are you doing this? Whenever you're like, oh, I really want a week off and I'm like, you know, and I'm whatever. All I'm just saying is I do hear you and we both

hear you. I know you do. No, I know. It's just, I'll get through it. The only way is through with these things and um like i got i have fun things waiting for me too and i'm like god like i i lucked out like crazy with everything and so like that and that can also be concurrently true with like all the the shitty parts of how i'm feeling now too. And like tonight I'm going to fucking watch Potomac and like laugh my ass off. Because a scholar will be so...

I'll order anything. I would like to do honestly... Well, never mind. Because what I want to do is like something we kind of just did. I'm not like that. What is Birds of a Feather? That place is amazing.

Also, Kings County Imperial is so good. I also feel like, bring it back to Bone, and I'm sorry. You should express. No, no, no. You should express because I feel like we're speechifying at you.

And you guys don't have to do that. No. Neither of you are ever under any obligation to have to make me feel better about anything. I know. I just want you to feel better. to make me feel better about anything. I know. I just want you to feel better. But it's also something that we all deal with. So I think it's a really important thing to talk about because I think that

you bring yourself to every situation. You bring your shit to every situation. And like, I feel like I'm a big compartmentalizer and a big disassociator. Yes. Huge. That is how I function in stressful situations. And that is bad, very bad in a lot of ways.

Because sometimes I put something in a box and I put it away because I couldn't deal with it right now. And then it shows up in a huge way. Yeah. And I'm like, where the fuck did this come from? I put that box away yeah so i could deal with it later and then sometimes you don't get to decide when you have to open the box yeah totally but also i think that two two things can be true many things can be true hold no one nuance no wants no nuance yes because it's also like look you're going through this fucking emotional

shit you're taking it home you're bringing it's bringing up all this you know trash feelings yeah yeah yeah but also you can live in a moment that's joyous hanging out with friends on set or like you know we're gonna go to the emmys together i'm so fucking excited that should be a joyous celebratory time no matter what and like i don't know maybe i'm asking for too much compartmentalization but i do feel like that helps me like you know but it's so hard to stay present that's my issue and i think i have the opposite thing where i'm like not compartmentalizing anything and i i might run my mouth and I think I have the opposite thing where I'm like not compartmentalizing anything. I run my mouth and like nothing, there are no boundaries when it comes to

things and I never set them. Where do you think that comes from? Never getting the opportunity to maybe. But it's fine. What do you mean never getting the opportunity to? Like I was being foisted the boundaries from someone else

all my life. Which is fine. I don't have to unpack that now. Literally, my therapist is on vacation for two weeks and so this is timing out wonderfully. Everyone is always on vacation. It's like one of the most horrifying things about the world.

I think that we should all be on vacation at the same time. You know how many times people in the entertainment that we should all be on vacation at the same time. Like, you know how many times... Well, people in the entertainment industry, actually, they're always on vacation. That is true. I think we should all be on vacation more. And I think it should be normal. I mean, I agree with you,

and I really want to go with my sisters to go down to Orlando to ride the Velocicoaster. Well, I want to go to fucking Greece, bitch. I know, but that's so far. I feel that... And there's no theme park there. Bitch, you are Greek.

And we're going to sit, we're going to have the most amazing food Yeah, so I don't need to go to Greece to be Greek. I can go to Orlando and be Greek. I'm bringing Greek there.

I think that we should be like France and everybody should just be like off for the month of August. Yeah. And August should be a time... August is famously the worst month.

Well, Matt has to travel. Matt has a seasonally effective disorder during August. Only in New York. The season of August. You don't like New York in August. I have a disease, seasonal defective disorder, where I can't like in New York in August to do the human.

I didn't know that it was New York specific. Well, yeah, because it's just so different everywhere else. I will say August for me is a trigger month. August for me is a trigger month. August triggers me. No, I'm literally brave and bold enough to say that it's not only just the

humidity. It's because every single year when you're in your 20s doing sketch comedy, August is when SNL rears its head and I have so much trauma from that month that it actually was a big reason why I had to move yes yes do you think over time you will build more distance

no it doesn't bother me anymore it doesn't bother me anymore you said the other day for this year it's exclusively the weather it's exclusively the weather in New York this time because year it's exclusively because you're in new york it's exclusively the weather in new york this time because now it's like it's like that thing of like you know when you were anxious going to school and you could feel it turn to september yeah and like you smell the air and you feel an anxiety yeah i kind of have that with august the

month of august now in new york because the humidity reminds me of a slog and a time when i was like stressed out and unhappy so every time I'm here now it's like kind of a fight and I have I have and I'm brave enough to say I have cried 90% of the days I've been here. I'm sorry. Not even because I'm Yeah but it's okay it's like it's like literally like it's fine because I am

genuinely very happy but like there's something about the heaviness of the humidity and like you know it's also like a time for me where things are changing a lot and there's something about the heaviness of the humidity and like you know it's also like a time for me where things are changing a lot and there's a lot of shift like and also you know there's so much uncertainty that sometimes it is nice to just and i am water water water water water sign y'all you have to remember like i'm a crier like it's just it just is what it is august is an interesting time because i feel like there is like a cognitive dissonance with august where it's like it is the

time where the environment the heat the weather the summer is winding down soon it will be the fall which is go go go go go there's a moment where you're like well i should be like resting by the beach or whatever but it's also a time where shit always ends up fucking happening and so you're in like heat of like I should be on a beach and then it's like send this, do this. It's back to school culture and it's actually toxic and the people who are like I like back

to school when like the notebooks are back at Target. Fuck you. I will say the new school supplies thing is real. They do smell good. The school supplies are wild now. Wait, oh my god, yeah, how have they changed? Like, there's fucking, I was watching this ASMR video

where she fucking, Maria, gentle whispering icon, went, she was like, I went to Target, and I found some amazing things. What are the kids using now? The kids are using, like, the pencil cases. Remember the space makers? No, flop. Those are gone. Now it's like, there's LEDs in there and shit.

They zip up. What? Or the notebooks have like fucking gel in them that you can like move around. Damn, girl. It's like they're- Whatever gets the kids engaged. Whatever gets the kids engaged. We love it.

Because, you know, they're on the iPad. And, you know, that's why Jane Austen did the farm. Because she was like, I don't want my kids on the iPad all the time. I want them to know where their food comes from. That's what Jane Austen said. Jane Austen said,. I want them to know where their food comes from. That's what Jane Austen said. Jane Austen said, my kid's going to know where their food comes from and my kid's also going to learn how to ride a bike.

Oh, absolutely. My kid's going to know how to ride a bike for if something happens. Yeah, if they have to get on a bike. I think Jane was also like, they're going to eat jicama sticks. Yeah. They're going to the farmer's market.

They're going to learn about produce. I think Shane was like, my kids are not getting that vaccine. Who said this? Jane Austen? Jane Austen's kids are unvaccinated. She said, my kids are not getting that vaccine.

I don't trust it at all. But also, they're homeschooled. So it's like, you can wait. She's weird, but you know what? She's weird.

She's definitely talented. She said, she's not getting, she said she's thinking, she's not anti-vax herself fully, but she's like, I don't know which one to get because, but I do know that J&J has, they put cancer in J&J. There's cancer in J&J and I, but she said once the FDA approval comes through, then

she'll think about it more seriously. But she feels they rushed it. My thing with Jane Austen is like, I love your Instagram. I love the kids. I love the farm. Oh, we love the kids. Write a book again. I know. Write another book.

It's been so long since Jane Austen wrote a book. And it's like, you know that thing when somebody's famous for a thing and then they just get so far away from it, like Chrissy Teigen and being a model? Yeah. Wait, but do what we loved about you. It's like Bethany with Housewives. You're not better than Housewives, babe. The last thing you'll ever

see is Ramona Singer. Stop trying to be on Shark Tank. It's like Jane with writing books. No, Jane is like JVN where it is like, you're not better than Housewives, babe. The last thing you'll ever see is Ramona Singer. Stop trying to be on Shark Tank. That's Jane with writing books. No, Jane is like JVN where it's like, no, we like don't, you don't have to walk us through this like ever.

Like you don't have to show us like a cooking demo. That's Antony. Yeah. Like you should just go back to the grooming. I just miss like a time before like social media

where like Jane Austen could just be Jane Austen. I know. She got in her head. And then now it's just like there be Jane Austen. I know. She got it in her head. And then now it's just like there's too much information. I miss pre-social media Jane Austen. It's like stop posturing. Talk to us.

You know what I mean? Just talk to us. Stop posturing for one second. Because it's like when Anthony started posting all those shirtless stuff. That's not why we love you. We love you because of your goofy little face when you put something wrong in it. So goofy. Let the work

speak for itself. Antony and Jane Austen. Yeah. We fell in love with you for books. Are we that though? Have we veered off the path? Are we being Jane? I often feel like every time i

um say anything about my personal life i regret it like i do this thing i i like absolutely am like a fucking meerkat in the hole because um no wait prairie dog because i think meerkats do are literally i saw it the same yeah absolutely where it's like i don't i'll have a day where i post or it'll be like my birthday or like i'll have a cute picture of myself that i'll post and then i crave those likes and those notifications and the attention then the minute i get it i'm like i don't want to be perceived. Nobody look at me. Nobody talk to me. Don't know a thing about me. This is literally sister life hashtag after.

I mean, I relate. I like, I'm like, I, why did I do that? Like the, the dopamine hit came and now I'm like,

it feels like you've just orgasmed. Yeah. And then you looked at the porn that you were watching and you're like, what? Oh, yeah. But that's also a funny moment, I think. I was 90s sailor stuff. Like, I thought I was past that. Well, my favorite lately has been espionage thriller.

Oh, my God. This is good stuff. Like when someone's like, you can get some really good ones ones Like where a girl comes in and she'll be like Well We better go, hurry quick And then they're like on a mission And he's like before we go, we should fuck And things like that

Are you still on this hetero porn kick? I actually watched hetero porn again recently And it wasn't as iconic as the step Step siblings But you know what It's truly iconic, iconicconic Matt Rogers moment. Might be a first in awards. Matt Rogers might be nominated

for artist of the millennium. But also going back to gay, the Mormon stuff is like really good. There's straight Mormon porn too. All that sister wife shit. It's fucked up. I don't know about all that. It's like Mormon porn too. All that sister wife shit. It's fucked up. I don't know about all that.

All I know is like, it's like the rituals of Mormonism. It's like, it'll be like, I know exactly what site you're talking about. And some of it is actually kind of upsetting. Well, I mean,

the fact that it's so, because honestly, religion is upsetting and Mormonism is upsetting. And so the fact that they're like, there's this, and you know, the series I'm talking about, it's like really specific. The garments they're like there's this and you know the series I'm talking about it's like really specific the garments they're wearing

are really specific and it's so specific to that experience that like you are sort of laughing because you're like it's like the scene will start and the guy will be like now go inside kneel at the altar and begin the ritual and it's like and the ritual is like blindfolded

and then they have to like lie down on a bed of nails or some shit like well and it's like I'll come in and read the rites. And it's like, what are you talking about? We want to watch you have sex, but it's funny to me. All those religions are about sex. They're deeply, deeply horny. And Mormonism is one of the horniest of them all because there's so much talk about the underwear

and you're seeing the girl with the braid and the dress and the whole time you're thinking like, I can't wait to fuck her like because she's so covered like whatever it's all it's all deeply sexual and also it's a religion just like all based on men wanting to fuck a bunch of young girls that too i also like another another archetype i really like is can you come over and fix something broken in my house? My trampoline is broken, dude. You want to come over and jump on my trampoline naked to see if it could work? For sure, dude. I'll come right over.

Here's my search word. I was going to say there are only three stories in pornography. Mormonism, fixing something at home, and espionage. I'm going to add a third one. These are my search words. Summer will come forth. These are my search words. Fourth even. Summer come fourth.

These are my search words. Real couple making love. I've done it so many times. Revolutionary. But the couple has to be hot and I have to think both of them are hot. And there's this one couple that have great production value, great lighting, nice bedspread.

It's all set up. And it all starts with them. Also their lube is like in these little mason jars oh my god so i think they make it themselves or whatever like is it just like coconut oil it's just so organic it's very jane um and they just like look into each other's eyes and like finger each other and tell each other how beautiful they are and then it's like a hard cut to like there's two there's another couple in the are and then it's like a hard cut to like there's two there's another couple in the bedroom and then they're like fucking the other couple and like

looking at each other but you're not emotionally invested in this random other couple though right sometimes i am well i'm really invested in them and i've also just watched i don't like you know i've watched this is rare for me i've watched several videos of this woman giving this guy a prostate orgasm and the way that he like directs her it's so trusting and beautiful and the way that he spreads his legs and like will be like barely any on my cock barely anything lighter lighter lighter like and she's just looking at him and she's so patient it's it's loving it's deeply loving the way you made the guy sound though was he's fucking hot okay yeah because that's actually hot behavior he's the hot one but the tone that you were

sort of reenacting it sounded like he was like trying to like put in an order at a restaurant. No, no, no, no. He is, I think very like very much the way that women sometimes, I mean, maybe it's the same way with men, have to be very specific about like this is how I'm going to come. He is doing that and it's so trusting and loving. I see. Well, I love that. I love that so much.

And vulnerable. I mean, she has like a big dildo up his butt. Yeah. And is like dragging him off. I mean, there's a guy that so much. And vulnerable. I mean, she has like a big dildo up his butt. Yeah. And is like tracking him off. I mean, there's a guy that I watch. And he's like a weird British guy. Uh-huh. But he like tries out dildos.

And he's like, it's a dildo tutorial. Like we all need to figure out how to use it. He's like, it's a tutorial for this one. And I'll review it. It's like so weird. But it works for me. And he also like models like um gear and then he he obviously like sometimes he'll turn on like some music and like you know he'll jack off but the

thing is like he's such a weird guy but i'm so into it and i think i want to have some weird sex soon you're into weird i like that i want to get a little summer of cunt. I want to get a little fucked up. Summer of cunt is about getting fucked and getting fucked weird. Yeah, I really would like to. Not me. I'm not horny right now at all. I'm not horny. You know what? We talked about this.

Like, I would like to in theory, but then it's August, bitch. It's like something weighs you down. No, too hot. Now it's like when I'm not fucking, I'm kind of like, it's actually fine. I have a headache. Yeah. It's hot. Welcome.

Welcome. that's what the weird British guy with a dildo up his ass is for and he smiles while he does it so cold in London where he lives

where he lives well Matt has put his hands on his mouth because he's having a rare moment of have I said too much this is like

the only time I've ever seen this happen he's like all of a sudden shy and shocked once a year he goes oh I said that it's cold in London

did I go too far wait it was a good PR from Miss Taylor Swift for August the month of August when she released August I think that she

she's delusional girl well now now I love the month of August because I'm like that song is so special August flipped away I thought that the other day like a moment in time

I thought I literally almost thought like explicitly and convinced myself that was true is so special. August flipped away. I thought that the other day. Like a moment in time. I thought I literally almost thought like explicitly and convinced myself that was true. Like, oh, now, well, we have August by Taylor.

And so, you know, but also like, I have to be honest, it's not enough. It's not enough for me to get over August being what it is. I'm going to say these words.

You don't like August? I hate, I'm like literally explicit about it. Oh, no, this song is one of my favorite songs of all time. It's just not enough. But I'm like literally explicit about it. Oh, no. This song is one of my favorite songs of all time. It's just not enough. But I'm going to say these words.

Okay. And they're associated with the month of August. Mm-hmm. You're back beneath the sun wishing I could write my name on it. On it. Will you call when you're back at school? You call. It's August after all.

I remember thinking I had you. It's such a good song, bitch. It's a beautiful song. I remember thinking I had you It's such a good song It's a beautiful song I remember thinking I had you That's such a beautiful line It makes me cry It's such a gorgeous song Taylor really slapped

Emotions are so beautiful She really snapped on folklore Snapped on folklore We were out dancing last night Can we say Yes we did You Belong With Me came out at the club It really truly did

perfect song and I think that's like I sort of forgot how drunk I got last night but I chugged a couple martinis

ooh I woke up hungover which is humiliating because I didn't even go to the second or third location it was just a second one

Sudi crushed Sudi crushed of course crushed wow Just a second one. Sudi crushed. Sudi crushed, of course. Crushed. Wow. The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City are back. I love that. I love that. Oh my gosh.

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Okay, speaking of Mormonism, is this a perfect segue into Okay, you know what? Everybody make peace. Readers, make peace with the fact that this is, we're going to talk about Taylor Swift at least once per episode. We're going to talk about one of the Real Housewives shows. Speak truth. Like, it's fine. Everybody, at this point, like

everyone that i know watches it and i know a lot of different kinds of people i will say brag sorry but we're all watching house swine and no one's too cool for it no one's above it no do not criticize the pod at this point everybody is lucky that it is still a thing and i'm gonna. And you got to be grateful for every day that these two fucking deem it worthy of their time to talk into a microphone. And guess what? They're going to say whatever the fuck they want to say. I will say it's so easy to just skip ahead. Like that's what I'm saying.

Like if it wasn't, it's not like watching a TV show where it's like you kind of have to get your Apple TV remote and like negotiate the. And I know you hate the Apple remote. It's so sensitive. So sensitive. And you have to negotiate it. Like a taint. With the podcast,

it's like there's a button that's a future button. You can go to the future. You hit 30, 30, 30. And if you like what you hear then, just keep going. Stay there.

Also, this podcast is so fucking long. We have done hours, thousands of hours of non- non housewives content so when the salt lake city 2 trailer comes out and it fucking snaps a work of art

and it's a work of art top to bottom every second was gold we're gonna talk about it and now we said it also what do they want you to talk about fucking jane austen guess what we did we gave her so much time today it's like she's gonna to get her whole moment. This is a literary podcast.

It is. We talk about books. This is a literary Bravo podcast. And everybody is lucky it exists. But anyway, the fucking Salt Lake trailer, let's just say Jen is a maniac villain.

She's a mad villain. Mad villain. She's now like literally like the big boss. And Meredith has engaged. Meredith has engaged. Detective Lisa, I said said I pitched her a new tagline on Instagram I said

I want this to be Lisa Barlow's tagline for the season I'll take a hamburger a large fry and the truth and guess what Lisa saw it cause you tagged her and she saw it and she said you made my day you made my day you made my day that's amazing

I love that. I love that. Oh, I love that. I love that. I said you could have it for free. I don't know. Thank you. Thank you.

Oh my God. Well, you know who we need to have on literally soon to do her Lisa Barlow is Vanessa. Vanessa. Vanessa's Lisa Barlow is, it's like one of those things where you don't hear it

and then you hear it and then you're like, thank God. Oh, you're so happy that it exists. Thoughts on what we think Heather Gay's season is going to be like after being like sort of the victor of season one. I'm worried that she has a writer now.

I'm worried that like there's somebody, like, you know, when like Paula Abdul, first season of American Idol, all of a sudden was saying things like touchdown, you know, like I'm worried that she's going to be too self-aware and, you know, it's I'm worried that she's going to be too self-aware and, you know, it's going to be,

you're going to see her thinking. Like, my thing is that Rihanna, like, DM'd me and I'm the funny one and I'm the real one and I'm worried she's going to play too much into it. She's going to play to Rihanna. She's going to play to Rihanna. She's going to now just have,

be thinking of catchphrases and then saying them over and over again. Which is Wendy Osefo's current sort of affliction. Although, I don't know. With Wendy, I just kind of feel like I'm watching some woman go through some sort of psychological break and there's a real

like there's some real psychosis happening and it's happening with a very intelligent complicated woman and I'm along for the ride. I a long for the ride. Yes. I think I'm a long for the ride. Whenever she,

you know, she hasn't said the word degrees one time and she said candle too much. So it's sort of the binary. Remember? Like you're either someone who's like my degrees or you're someone who's like my candle. And I think that she's somewhere and lost in the middle. She's,

she's neither right now. Remember when Wendy was talking about when she was getting her degrees and she had her two boys and she would be breastfeeding and working on her dissertation and how she wouldn't sleep. She would sleep like three hours a night

and she did that for years. That, I remember thinking like, oh my God, that is not a way to live your life. That's trauma. That's so hard what she did. And the fact that she's like, new body, these kids literally suck the life out of my breasts.

New body, candles. I'm very, I don't support it, but I'm very interested. It makes sense to me. It makes so much sense. Yes. It makes, she saw an opportunity. She's trying to create a new beginning for herself and also, you know, a lot of people, when you watch yourself on

TV, like, you go through something. You know what I mean? She's seen herself edited and maybe she thought, maybe she thought her character wasn't fun. Maybe she's like, but wait, I'm watching this show and I'm fun. Yeah. Like, and like, maybe she's going a little too far in that direction. I mean, I think

that Wendy's having a better second season than Leah. Oh, sure, sure, sure. It's too much pressure, too much put on Leah's shoulders. To be the new Bethany. Too quickly. She's more fun when she pops. When she's the whipped cream on top,

she can't be the banana in the Sunday. Yeah, oh my God, that's amazing. That's a great point. How everyone is the banana, I honestly think, and I really don't like saying this, but I think the way, the only way you save New York really is to bring Bethany back.

Bring Bethany back, bring back Ramona, and then bring back Dorinda. I think Dorinda was on Watch What Happens Live, and she was like, I think they should bring us all back. I think what would be fun is seeing the older cast and the newer cast and see what happens. But I'm happy. You know, I'm happy.

And I'll go back. I'm very fortunate and blessed. And you know, if I did go back, I wouldn't have written this book. And I read the book and I'm happy that I'm sharing with everyone. Dorinda, I heard,

I saw that you put Bluestone Manor on Airbnb. What's that about? Well, I'm inviting everyone to come to my Airbnb. And wouldn't that be fun? A reality show about Bluestone Manor on Airbnb. What's that about? Well, I'm inviting everyone to come to my Airbnb. And wouldn't that be fun? A reality show about Blue Stone Manor. I think that would be fun.

Just saying. That is Dorinda. You're barely changing your voice. You want to know why you once told me I was Dorinda? Because when I drink it gets a little dark. He gets so dark. He gets so dark.

That's any of the New York housewives. I don't like that anymore. That's not specific to Dorinda though. Can I say yes, that is true. And when Sudi is saying that she's associating drinking with getting dark for me, it's because all those times happened in August. August in New York.

I was drinking a lot and getting dark. Last night you drank a lot and you got fresh with me. Was I being fresh? You were just like, you're coming. You're coming to the next location. It wasn't dark. I was being definitive and I think trying to be funny. But maybe it was reading as like...

The look in your eyes was you're doing as I said. Well, because I I honestly like needed that because I unfortunately had that thing readers where last night I was that flop who told everyone to leave one place to go to another place and arrive and it was closed and we were

with truly about outside or outside with about 30 people who came from our little island show and it was like oh I personally disappointed dozens of people who I from our Little Island show and it was like, oh, I personally disappointed dozens of people who I love and care about. We forgave you. It wasn't your fault. It was the restaurant's fault.

When restaurants are closed, it's their fault. That's actually Roller Culture number nine. When restaurants are closed, it's their fault. Be open. I think that we are in for some great television from Bravo. Going forward.

Going forward. And I'm putting it into the atmosphere. I want to be on Watch What Happens Live. Yes. It's like not my summer of cunt because it's not happening soon. But at some point in the next year or so, I really want to do Watch What Happens Live. It's literally one of my life dreams.

That's huge. I think you should. It's literally one of my life dreams. That's huge. I think you should It's so thirsty. This is such a gross thing to put out. This is very inside baseball. Do you have a publicist?

No. I see you hire one and then you push like for when Q-Force comes out in September you should be like can we get me on?

I'll be your publicist. Yeah. I can call and be like hi this is Sudie Green I'm working with Matt Rogers and he has some really exciting things coming up and we're just wondering yeah, absolutely. I just feel like

yeah, absolutely. That's great. I mean, I've said it. I think I've said it on this pod before. If I was less talented, I'd be the biggest agent in the world. I will say, I've shot on publicists on this podcast before I had my own, and I really do appreciate them.

It's a hard job. It's a hard fucking job. They're type A people who get shit done. They're so good at doing that. It is also a job for New York women, and I can never hate a job full of New York women. Love it. There should be, honestly, a reality show about publicists. Is there?

Well, there was that show. Well, yes, there was that show well yes there was that show that was on i think it was on bright well who's that woman kelly kelly katron kelly katron had her own reality show and then crawl show they had that oh yeah yeah so funny i honestly think maybe maybe it hasn't been done well yet but i would love to see it's fast that energy harness it's fascinating speaking of harnessing energy, it is at this moment, because we are running up on almost we, fucking Walter's gonna kick us

the hell out of here soon, so we gotta do I Don't Think So Honey, which is you know, such a fun segment. So fun. It's really such a blast. That's really I think we really got we really found something with I Don't Think So Honey. The other day, we were going to the Lady Gaga concert with Tony Bennett featuring Tony that. The other day, we were going to the Lady Gaga concert with Tony Bennett, featuring Tony Bennett.

The Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett's final concert ever, by the way. Bowen Yang pulled Tony Bennett out of the troll ball last night and said, you could never be Gaga. I said, how dare you have Gaga be your opener? You want to be her. You never will be her.

But anyway, we were walking in and this guy goes to Bowen. My favorite is, I don't think so, honey. We celebrate him. We send a kiss to him. But it's a one minute segment. You explain it. It's a one minute segment where you rail against

something in culture that you don't think so, honey. And you gotta be, talk fast. You gotta be, speak truth, as, honey. Yeah. And you got to be, talk fast. You got to be, speak truth, as Kamala would say. Yes. And you got to be funny.

You got to be funny. But don't try too hard. Also, as Kamala would say, do not come. If you, do not come. If you're not going to come. If you, if you, but I'm saying,

if you come during I Don't Think So Honey, that's bad. Don't, don't, don't have an orgasm. Don't have an orgasm. As Kamala also said, y'all going to drag me for this.

I think Kamala is funny. Unfortunately, as a person in the way she waved to the crowd that one time, her laughing in her pride jacket. I enjoy the Kamala thing because you know that behind the scenes, it's like she's basically ordering around the stormtroopers. You what i mean like i what i love is like i i literally we

were really stoned in galaxy's edge and there was like a huge like ship and i was like i pointed to it and i said kamala energy she's a stormtrooper is such a serious woman yeah she is such a serious woman who can access this manic joy projection that is like, it's in her eyes. Yeah. Exactly, when she's walking out at Pride or when she's waving to the bus. And it is fascinating that that is a part of her. Yeah. Because you know it doesn't, I'm not saying that it's inauthentic. I think that it's there and it's in there.

I agree, it's there. But it's like Hillary looking at the balloons. They access this thing that is just that part of their lives because in the rest of their lives, they have to be so serious. Right. They have to be so serious. She has to do, do not come. Yeah. And she also has to do, y'all get it, right?

I know. I know. And she has to wave that way and look like a patriotic monument. Really. Being a woman is hell. Truly. It's hell and everything is a trap. And I'm saying I have admiration for her.

And I know that she's, you know, problematic amongst progressives. And I understand. she's, you know, problematic amongst progressives. And I understand. But I do... We understand. We understand. I watch it and I laugh. And when she said,

oh, y'all are going to drag me for this, I did think it was funny because I just did. The first time you did that, I thought, is he allowed? And now the third time that you've done it,

I'm like, he is. And you are the arbiter. Yeah, I get to decide. One thing I would like to do is go back in time and just tap myself on the shoulder a few times when I said some things early on in the podcast and just be like, are you allowed? But it's too late.

But you've learned. And I've grown and changed. You've grown and changed. Okay. That's just a part of life. Anyway, I don't think so, honey. I'll go. You want to go first?

Great. Okay. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Too much milk or creamer in the iced coffee. Let me say that. Get a grip. And when I say get a grip, get a grip on something

else that isn't the goddamn handle of milk you're using to pour it into my goddamn iced. Let me tell you something. I don't want to drink milk i want to drink iced coffee if i wanted to come here do you think i would order a coffee or a milk and like i i don't think so honey i'm not going to the coffee shop for milk so why pray tell when i sort of suck the straw paper these days and I'm finding that it's mostly milk. Oat or almond usually for me,

sorry climate, but that's usually what it is. And especially when it's almond milk, this isn't even 2%. This isn't even what they'd say in the 90s you should be drinking to get out to wait off osteoporosis. This is almond milk, mama. I don't want to drink

mostly the milk of the oat. I want to drink iced coffee. I'm here for energy. I'm here for a good time. I'm here to sustain. I'm not here for milk. If I was, I'd be at the pasture. I don't think iced coffee. I'm here for energy. I'm here for a good time. I'm here to sustain. I'm not here for milk. If I was, I'd be at the pasture. I don't think so, honey, that I'm there. That's one minute.

I loved that. You kept it going. And also, I think, can we name names? I think it's Duncan that is like the biggest sort of overall perpetrator. Not even just milk with them too because the sugar is really where it gets uncouth. It's untoward.

I don't order anything except black coffee at Dunkin' Donuts because I don't trust their hands. When you're drinking it and you can't even drink, you can't taste the coffee, you're just tasting milk. It's so upsetting. I don't trust people who say that Dunkin' Donuts is their coffee place. That's how you know Ben Affleck is a serial killer.

No, Dunkin' is so their coffee place. That's how you know Ben Affleck is a serial killer. No, Dunkin is so... I will not hear this. Dunkin is so much better than Starbucks. It's not even funny. You're from the East Coast. That's what that is. Because Starbucks is trying to give me Seattle roast. The coffee

tastes like cigarettes. Whereas Dunkin is like, we are who we are and you're choosing this. And I appreciate that. And I actually think it's solid. That is the second time that someone has described coffee tasting like cigarettes in a day, and I've never heard that. Greta did it earlier. We had

coffee, and she was like, does this taste like cigarettes to you? And I was like, why would it taste like cigarettes? It's that burnt taste. Okay. I don't know. I don't taste them. It's, well, you know, I think... You're not going to drag me for this. Not to bring up SNL, taste it's that broil taste I don't know I don't taste them it's well you know I think not to bring up

SNL but for Sudi to cape so hard for Dunkin Donuts I don't mind Dunkin Donuts but for you to be very loyal

is East Coast culture it's working in SNL culture going to the one under 30 rock I think that's what you're attached to yeah the one under

30 rock where they call you sweetie. Medium iced milk, sweetie. They always have the perfectly ripe bananas. I'll go back. Let's go. I miss it. Lauren, take me back. Hey, Mr. Michaels. Here I am.

Beanie is playing Fanny Bryson. We can't go down that road. We love Beanie. I want Beanie on the pod. Let's get Beanie on. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So Honey. Is he ready? He nods confidently

as I press play. It's time. Starts now. I Don't Think So Honey hard outs. No one honors them. What's the point of even asking for one or receiving one from someone like we're not gonna hold it up we're not gonna do it

we're going we only had the room for two hours here we're doing this in person and poor Walter is having to sit here working overtime we've run the clock 15 minutes after our allotted time we weren't given a hard out we did not say we had a hard out but we are the schedules aren't being,

the schedules are very arbitrary. I just think, I've never in my life had a hard out honored. I think, let's just like, delete them as a concept. Okay?

Like, if you're going to show up somewhere, expect to be there for an indefinite amount of time. Forever. Forever. For 15 seconds. And that is so liberating

to sort of, you know, be untethered from time in that way. So hard outs, I mean, the only person who should have a hard out

should be Katie Couric because she is up for the best asker award. Yeah. And she, and she just deserves her time to, you know,

catch people. Write a speech. And that's one minute. I have never had a hard out. Truly. I've seen hard outs. I've seen hard outs spring into action.

And it is a hard out right to the minute. At SNL they're honored. But anywhere else. Not always at all. So for people that might not know, a hard out is when you say, I actually have to. Not everyone that does,

I have to leave at five. I'm so sorry. I have a hard out at five. Just like we were told today there was a hard out at seven. It's a 705. 650. Oh, 650. Yeah.

Oh, shit. All right. So that's what we're saying. We don't think so, honey. So that's why we're not doing a hard out. Walter told me there's no one booked after this. And so we do get to like color outside the lines a little bit. But Walter wants to go home.

No, he wants to hear us talk about a Scala. He wants to hear it. He loves a Scala. He loves a Scala. Do you, have you, have you been able to understand anything we've said? Like in terms of a Scala. Do you know who that is? Did you, but you were laughing at his Dorinda impression in a way that made me think that

you knew Dorinda. So the impression just seemed funny. And that's how you know it's a good impression. That's amazing. Lauren. Lauren. Biggest mistake of his life.

Vlog. He has a Dorinda. He has a Dorinda. Might be fun. Matt has a Dorinda. Matt has a Dorinda. It's that thing where Yeah.

Yeah. She's got a book coming out. She's got a book coming out. She's hosting. And you I was watching Watch What Happens and it's that thing

anybody heard it? anybody heard it? could be fun could be fun and you know Candice is coming on her musical guest musical guest

incredible drive back drive back sweeping the country big hit big hit topping the charts could be fun could be fun

could be interesting could be interesting Could be interesting You know Matt also has a canvas But he shouldn't do it No everybody needs to be saying Can I give notes Everybody needs to be saying

Fewer words and longer pauses Yeah And I'm not putting Erica out there She's been through a lot She's been through a lot You know It's that thing

Where the husband Yeah Yeah Yeah So now been through a lot. You know, it's that thing where the husband... Yeah. So, now this is going to be Sudi Greens, I don't think so, honey. And Sudi, are you ready? You've sort of done two in the last

24 hours already. I know. Oh my god. You're on fire. She's on fire. And they both were slays. And this one, I know it's going to be no exception. This is Sudi Green's I Don't Think So Honey on Summer of Cunt 4. And her time starts now. I don't think so honey hiking.

Hiking, you're a walk but harder. I don't like to hike. Every boyfriend I've ever had in my life, I've had to hike with them. I have to pretend to hike. I have to pretend to like it. And then guess what? About six months in, the truth comes out, which is that

hiking, you're not watching a movie. Be watching a movie. Also, you want to be in the middle of nature, in the middle of nowhere, alone. You are a white man. You are a white man saying that and it is a white man space,

and I don't like to have to climb. I don't like to have—I like nature, but I don't want to have to go into nature to be in nature. Does that make sense? And just struggle for it. Also, the thing is with hiking, you do the hike to the point, and guess what you have to do after that? Walk back.

Okay, walk back. And sometimes people are trying to trick you and say that the walk back is easier. But it's harder because I'm tired. I don't think so. Hiking. And that's one minute. That's incredible. You know, what's hard about the walk down is it's hard on your calves because you're like going down the hill.

Oh, and then your feet are kind of sloped down like this. You're doing the... And that's when you notice if you're not wearing the right footwear. Oh, and then your feet are kind of sloped down like this. You're doing the, it's so- And that's when you notice if you're not wearing the right footwear. Yeah, that's when you know. To me, it's the performance that I do for every man that I've ever known. Not true, not every man, but most of them

where I'm like, yeah, let's go on a hike. And then it's the tension of how much do I suffer through? And when do they find out, A, that I'm not really in shape for this? And B, that the secret is I would so much rather be doing literally anything else. What can I say? And this will maybe renegotiate the performance aspect of this. You and I have enjoyed a hike together. Okay, what I would call the hikes that we've

gone on, and this is important, nature walks. Love it. And we all love a nature walk. I love a nature walk. Give me a path, you know, off a road, easy parking, and I'm smelling the trees for a little bit. I can't be doing these

mountain... You're bouldering. I'm Oregon trailing up in this ditch. You also don't need to be hiking to walk. You're bouldering. I'm Oregon trailing up in this bitch. You also don't need to be hiking to walk. You know what I mean? Exactly. And if you're walking, you actually like, you know, steps wise, they're the same. So if you walk up a hill and it's a hike,

quote unquote, you could have walked down the street around nature, thanks, and logged as many steps and still it's calories carrying down like getting lost. Can I? So, I don't know. Can I ask them a thing? I do love them. And you're going to love the way you look in LA when you start.

Griffith Park, is that a hike or a nature walk? Oh, it's a hike. I think if it's up, if it's up the hill and you're feeling in your ass, you're feeling it, I think that that's a hike. To me, a hike is defined not only by distance and remoteness, but

also strenuousness. Do you like the Griffith Park hike? No, but I'll do it to get a nice ass. We love the Griffith Park hike. I'll do it to get a nice ass, but I won't do it because I say I love going on a hike. It's a means to an end. It's not the thing that you want to be doing. I don't like working. But I won't do it because I say I love going on a hike. It's a means to an end.

It's not the thing that you want to be doing. I don't like working out and I don't do it. I have to tell you, that's been a part of Summer of Cunt for me is I now do enjoy it. Don't. I don't want to hear it. Stop it. Stop. Literally, please shut up.

Thank you. This is Summer of Cunt. The boundaries. That's right. That's 100% right 100% and guess what Kings

we are having a fun night tonight yeah we're about to go watch we're gonna go to Kings County Imperial shout out I just wanna say one thing which is that

I'm staying at a really cool hotel in New York called the Freehand we love the Freehand and you guys did Treen there and I'm telling you

like I never got to go I never was in town for a Treen which feels literally insane there and I'm telling you like I never got to go I never was in town for a train which feels literally insane but now I'm there and I fucking love it it's so fucking cute it's a lovely place

so this is this is like a not even an ad get him a damn discount get him a damn discount it's one con no I'm just saying like I

I would pay millions more no they should pay you no mama yes let me pay them no let me pay them let me pay them. No. Let me pay them. No.

Okay. Give me the money. Give him the money. I think this has been, and wow, we laughed. We literally cried. What can I say? I think this is an iconic Summer of Cunt. Summer of Cunt. Quad. I think it's Can I have a pitch for a title? Yeah.

Summer for? Like no cunt. Yeah. Summer of... I think it's... Can I have a pitch for a title? Yeah. Summer 4? Like, no cunt. Yeah. Or... Or cunt 4. So it's like Fast 5? Huh? So it's like Fast 5? Or when it's like Furious 7,

you know, like when they swap out. We now know that like the word... So the word furious is inferred now with any Fast and the Furious movie so much so that you don't need it

in the actual title. So the word cunt is sort of inferred with this so you don't need it. Summer 4. What about cunt, cunt, cunt, cunt? I like that. We're going to have a vote on one of the most

popular websites online which is called Twitter. And it's going to be between the two. We're going to ask our readers. We're going to ask the Twitter sphere which is always responsible. Yeah. And definitely when we post the word cunt on,

even if it's spelled with a K on Twitter, people will have like, they'll have a good sense of humor about it. Yes. And they'll be constructive and be willing to play along with us. Absolutely. I trust everyone.

I trust them for sure. No one flag it. No one report. No one flag it, faggots. Faggots. Okay. This has been one of the best times and we're all going to wave to each other.

And I kind of, I know what song I want to sing at the end and I kind of want Studio to lead us. Okay. Would you lead us in the theme song to A Wrinkle in Time? Only you can ring the time. Bye.

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